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TODAY IS FEBRUARY 5TH, 2026.[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ]
TUESDAY.THIS IS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD.
UM, HERE TO REVIEW TWO APPLICATIONS.
I, CATHERINE LETTER OF SKE AND PRESENT DIANE TORA PRESENT.
UM, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT IN A PUBLIC PLACE TO HOLD THIS MEETING.
HE'S THE COUNT, UH, TOWN LIAISON.
AND DAVID KENNY IS HERE FROM SNYDER AND SNYDER.
HE IS HERE FOR A NEW APPLICATION SUBMISSION AND TO, UM, BE HERE ON BEHALF OF HIS COLLEAGUE MICHAEL SHERIDAN FOR ANOTHER APPLICATION.
THE TWO APPLICATIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY ARE 300 WEST HARSDALE AVENUE AND THREE 13, UM, CENTRAL AVENUE.
FIRST WITH 300 WEST HARSDALE AVENUE.
THAT IS ON BEHALF OF T-MOBILE.
AND WE ARE HERE TO REVIEW WHETHER OR NOT THE SUBMISSION IS COMPLETE.
THIS IS A NEW SUBMISSION FIRST SUBMITTED ON THE 28TH OF JANUARY, 2026, AND WE ARE AS SAID, MEETING ON THE 5TH OF FEBRUARY, WHICH IS EIGHT DAYS LATER.
AND IN REVIEWING A, UM, THIS IS NAMES, ADDRESSES, QUALIFICATIONS OF PERSONS PREPARING THE REPORTS AND HIS OR HER OR THEIR SIGNATURES ATTESTING TO THE TRUTH AND COMPLETENESS OF THE INFORMATION CONTAINED THEREIN.
THE FIRST PART IS ONE IS COMPLETE, AND IF ANYBODY SEES SOMETHING DIFFERENT, PLEASE TELL ME.
UM, THESE ARE JUST MY OBSERVATIONS.
UM, IN THE SECOND ONE, IT, IT SAYS THE STRUCTURAL OPINION LETTER WAS SIGNED AND SEALED BY KEITH BOAC.
BUT WHEN YOU GO BONAC, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO PAGE 51 IN TAB J, IT HAS ANOTHER NAME AS WELL, AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THAT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ON IT.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT IS, THAT APPEARS WE FIRST SEE RIGHT AWAY ON THIS PAGE, BUT THAT APPEARS THROUGHOUT.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF IDENTIFICATION FOR THOMAS INCLUDED IN THE BEGINNING.
IN UNDER A, IT ALSO HAS AN ADDRESS OF 300 WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE GREENBERG.
THIS SEEMS TO BE A CONFUSING THING FOR APPLICANTS.
UM, SOMETIMES ON DRAWINGS, SOMETIMES IN MATERIALS OTHER THAN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, NOBODY HAS THE ETO GREENBERG.
UM, THIS PO SHOULD BE HARTSDALE AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
THEN WE GET TO THE NOISE REPORT AND WHICH IS UNDER, WHICH SAYS THE NOISE REPORT WAS SIGNED BY ROBERT PEARSON.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO PAGE 39, TAB H WE HAVE TWO NAMES THERE ALSO, WE HAVE BETHANY WU, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHO BETHANY RUTH IS.
UM, I'M TRYING TO FIND, OKAY, THE ONE WITH BETHANY.
W WE, WE NEED HIS, THE, THAT'S FOUR.
YOU WRITE, UH, MR. PEARSON'S REPORTS HAVE ALSO BEEN ACCEPTED BY THIS HONORABLE BOARD IN THE PAST APPLICATIONS.
I LOVE WHEN WE'RE CALLED AN HONORABLE BOARD.
UM, BUT DO WE HAVE HIS QU MR. PEARSON'S QUALIFICATIONS? YES.
THERE'S ALSO INSTATED IN THERE.
BEFORE WE STATE THAT, IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, UH, MR. PEARSON HAS OVER SIX YEARS EXPERIENCE IN CELLULAR NOISE STUDIES.
AND THEN THAT'S INCLUDED ON PAGE 39 AS WELL.
ROBERT PEARSON WAS OVER SIX YEARS OF CELLULAR NOISE STUDIES.
OFTEN WHEN WE, WHAT IT'S DONE IS THERE'S A SUBMISSION.
YOU HAVE THIS ON A DIFFERENT PERSON WHO SIGNS, HE WRITES THIS WHOLE THING AND THEN HE SIGN.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? THERE'S SOME ANOTHER, YEAH.
FOR, FOR, UH, THE PINNACLE REPORTS, THEY HAVE THEIR CV APPENDED AND WE HAVE SOMETHING IN, IN THIS ONE WHERE THEY GIVE, IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST A A, UM, COLLINS THAT DOES IT.
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I THINK IT'S PAGE 75.IS THIS AN WHATCHA HEARING? EXCUSE ME.
YEAH, WE START, WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING OUT LIVE.
SO CAN, IT'S GOING OUT LIVE, BUT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO SIT THERE IF YOU WANT.
IT'S THE ANTENNA BOARD MEETING.
WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S A PAGE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING SO LONG.
I'M FINDING IT BECAUSE THE OTHER APPLICATION, IT IT, IT GIVES THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE PERSON SIGNS AT THE BOTTOM.
YOU CAN SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT.
PARDON? YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT.
DO YOU WANT US TO ADD SOMETHING THAT BASICALLY I WANT TO ADD LIKE A LITTLE EXPANDING ON HIS QUALIFICATIONS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS ONE.
I'LL FIND IT AND POINT IT OUT.
IT JUST SEEMS SILLY NOW TO SURE.
SO WE NEED SOMETHING AND THAT HE HAS SIGNED SAYING THIS IS WHO HE IS.
UM, SO THAT'S A IV AND THEN UNDER RF PAGE 38 G, IT'S THE SAME THING AS FAR AS JUDITH BRYCE QUALIFICATIONS AND I HAVE THAT.
AND ON SIX OF THAT SECTION WE GO TO 49 50.
IT DOES HAVE APPEAR THAT SHE'S A RF.
EXCEPT THAT WE REQUIRE IT TO BE WRITTEN ON THE PAGE THAT SOMEBODY TO AND SIGNS.
SHE, SHE DID SIGN ON 38 SENIOR RF ENGINEER.
BUT WE, WE CAN ADD, WE CAN ADD SOMETHING, BUT SHE'S SIGNING TO ATTEST TO WHAT'S ABOVE IT.
DOES IT HAVE HER QUALIFICATIONS ON THAT PAGE THAT I'M MISSING? UH, IT IS JUST, YEAH, IT'S IN HER TITLE BLOCK.
BUT WE CAN ADD SOMETHING TO CLARIFY AND I'LL SHOW YOU ON THAT.
'CAUSE YOU'VE SUBMITTED THEM TOO.
UM, THIS ONE HAS JUST INITIALS AND I, THIS IS LIKE, YOU NEED A SIGNATURE AND ALSO THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS PERSON MAY BE HOW LONG THEY WORKED FOR THE COMPANY OR WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE EITHER.
AND WE, I REMEMBER WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS AND WE AGREED THAT BECAUSE SOMEONE WORKS FOR A COMPANY, THEY MAY NOT HAVE A, A DEGREE OR A LICENSE THAT SPECIFIES IT, BUT THAT THERE IS SOME QUALIFICATION THAT LIKE HOW LONG THEY YEAH, THIS ONE WE, WE CAN PUT IT IN THERE.
HE'S THE PROJECT MANAGER, SO HE KNOWS THE, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
BUT WE CAN HAVE THAT WRITTEN INTO THE LETTER.
SO I'M GONNA ON THIS SHEET WRITE, UM, THOMAS MOORE.
I FEEL LIKE FUNNY SAYING, WHO'S THOMAS MOORE? UM, BETHANY.
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UM, THEN MOVING ON TO B WAS COMPLETE, C WAS COMPLETE.UM, WITH DI LOOKED AT ANOTHER, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS QUESTION, AND YOU ANSWERED IT FOR ME AT THE TIME, FRANCIS, OR MAYBE I, MY RECOLLECTION IS INCORRECT.
THE, THE GIS THE NUMBERS FOR HERE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE NUMBERS FROM A PAST APPLICATION.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, I STARTED GOOGLING THEM, WHICH MADE ME NOT HAVE MUCH FAITH EITHER BECAUSE I'M TRUSTING A NON DOC, NON-OFFICIAL DOCUMENT.
BUT THESE ARE NOT THE SAME LATITUDE LONGITUDE OF ANOTHER APPLICATION.
DID YOU SHIP THE TOWER? UH, NO.
I THINK WE HAD THIS IN BEFORE WHERE, WHERE SOMEONE DID THIS THE THING TOO, THE LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE FOR THE, FOR THE ENTRANCE TO THE DRIVEWAY AND THEY DIDN'T DO THE TOWER.
UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS LIKE THE PROPERTY'S LATITUDE AND LAUDE.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA WRITE, JUST CONFIRM.
THEN ZONING, WHICH IS, BUT, BUT D CLEARLY SAYS IT HAS TO BE THE LOCATION OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY AND NOT JUST THE UH, YEAH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO DID WHAT IF WE DID THE CORRECT TOWER AND THEN THEY DID THE, BUT I REMEMBER THAT WAS AN ISSUE WE HAD FOR A PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
I THINK IT WAS 3 1 3 CENTRAL PARK WHEN WE DID IT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE THAT HAD THE LONG DRIVEWAY THAT GOES UP.
AND THAT WAS WHY THERE WAS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR THAT.
THEY ALSO DID THE WRONG ELEVATIONS.
REMEMBER ON THAT APPLICATION WAS 'CAUSE WE HAD A, ANOTHER APPLICANT GO AND THEY HAD DIFFERENT KIND OF AMLS.
WAIT, YEAH, WE'LL GET TO THAT.
ONLY BECAUSE YOU, I'M SORRY,
IT'S, IT'S, I GET AHEAD OF MYSELF, RIGHT.
UM, SO THE ZONING DISTRICT IS COM IS CORRECT.
THE INSTALLATION IS PURSUANT TO A LEASE.
UM, LET'S JUST LOOK AT THAT ONE TO MAKE SURE.
WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS LATELY IN PEOPLE SIGNING, CLAIMING THEY OWN PROPERTY THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY OWN.
THEY'RE JUST NOT, OR THEY'RE HAVING NOT ENTITY SIGN THAT THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY SIGN.
YEAH, WE HAVE, IF YOU LOOK FRANCIS AT PAGE FOUR, THIS IS THE HARTSDALE FIRE STATION ON HARTSDALE AVENUE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT AVENUE IT IS IN TAB B.
THIS MAY BE WE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING WHAT WE'RE, IT SAYS RAYMOND MITA DE DELY SWORN DEPOSES AND SAYS SHE RESIDES AT 300 WEST HIGH AVENUE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, BLAH BLAH.
THAT SHE IS THE OWNER IN FEE SIMPLE OF THE PIECE OR PARCEL OF LAND, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS TRUE.
SO THE NEXT ONE WE DO HAVE IS CORRECTLY STATING IT, BUT WE CAN HAVE THAT, UH, CLARIFIED IN THE, IN THE, IN ACTUAL TOWN FORM.
IT'S THE DISTRICT THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? LIKE HE, HE JUST PUT HIS NAME ON THE FORM AND IT SHOULD'VE BEEN HE'S THE FIRE CHIEF.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE DISTRICT.
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HE DOES SAY THAT ON THE NEXT YEAH, WE, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE I DRAFTED UP, BUT, UH, THE TOWN FORM, UH, THEY, THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE CORRECT EDITS.SO YOU DID PAGE FIVE, CORRECT.
LIKE THAT'S A FORM THAT I LIKE DRAFTED UP FOR THEM, BUT THE TOWN FORM, THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T MAKE THE NEW HOUSE.
ON A DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK NECESSARY TO COMPLETE, INCLUDING CONSTRUCT AND INSTALL THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING ANY NECESSARY EXCAVATION AND ON PAGE IT'S WRITTEN HERE.
AND I NO CABLES WILL BE ADDED.
NO, NO CABLES ARE ADDED WITH THIS ONE.
AND I WANTED TO COMPARE WITH PAGE 49.
IT ACTUALLY SAYS, UH, THERE THEY'RE GONNA REMOVE THE EXISTING COAX.
THAT'S, AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU'RE REPLACING THEM WITH SOMETHING.
WHAT ARE TMAS? UM, THEY'RE LIKE THE REMOTE RADIO HEADS.
THERE ARE THE ACTUAL NAME FOR ESSENTIALLY THEY POWER THE ANTENNAS.
THEY'RE THE SAME AS REMOTE RADIO HEADS.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT, UH, KIND OF NOMENCLATURE FOR THEM.
SO THE, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 49 MM-HMM
WHICH IS, UM, IN TAB I, WHEN I LOOK HERE, THERE ARE THINGS NOT LISTED HERE.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO QUESTIONS IS TO HAVE EVERYTHING LISTED THAT IS LISTED ON PAGE 49.
BUT IN SUMMARY IN THIS ANSWER SURE.
IT'S, IT'S THE RADIOS, BUT WE CAN HAVE THEM CLARIFY AND THE RODS AND THE NEW WIRE CLIPS.
IT'S, IT'S LIKE THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT AS PART OF OKAY.
BUT IT'S NOT TO MY EYE, AND MAYBE I'M MISSING IT NOT ON THIS ANSWER FOR SPECIFICALLY THE, THE TMAS IS GONNA BE IS, UM, THEY'RE LIKE RADIOS, BUT LIKE YEAH, WE CAN HAVE THAT AND WE CAN HAVE THAT CLARIFIED.
MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IN HERE SPELLED OUT.
IT CAN CAME PARENTHESIS WHAT THAT IS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE IT'S, IT IS TERM OF ART, LIKE THE ENGINEER WHO DRAFTED THE PLANS VERSUS THE CONTRACTORS REMOVING, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME STUFF USING DIFFERENT NOMENCLATURE.
BUT WE CAN MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S SAME FOR SAYING AND CLARIFIED THAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE SAME STUFF.
THE THE BIG REASON AND, AND TO PEOPLE THIS MAY SEEM, WHY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY QUESTION WHY WE, WE WANT IT IS BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING THINGS THAT SAY EQUIPMENT THESE DAYS.
WHAT KIND AND, AND THEY MEAN ANTENNAS.
THEY'LL MEAN THE COLD, THEY'LL MEAN ANYTHING.
AND SO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING DONE.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT HERE.
THEY JUST USED DIFFERENT NOMENCLATURE, BUT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE.
SO IF THEY GO THROUGH THIS AND MAKE SURE THIS IS INCLUDED IN THIS YEAH, FOR LIKE INSTANCE, LIKE WHEN THEY SAW INSTALLING NEW RODS, NEW WIRE CLIPS, LIKE THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE MOUNTS.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE THEM CLARIFY THAT THAT'S RELATED TO THE MOUNT WORK.
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OKAY.PAGE 18 AND E SEE FRANCIS, THIS IS PAGE 18.
WHO, WHOSE SIGNATURE IS THIS? I MEAN, I, I DON'T USUALLY KNOW WHO PERSON IS.
I ALWAYS ASK LIZ FOR THE COPY OF WHATEVER WHAT TAB YOU, UH, TAB E, PAGE 18.
WHAT WE NEED IS THE STRUCTURE AND WE'VE BEEN HOLDING TO HAVING THE STRUCTURE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION ASKS FOR THIS COC, UM, FOR THE SUPPORTING STRUCTURE OF THE EXISTING ANTENNAS.
AND THIS, AND WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, IT SAYS WE, YOU KNOW, VERIZON ANTENNA REPLACEMENT RELATED IMPROVEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ENCLOSED PLANS.
BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S A FOR THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
I CAN ASK LIZ FOR IT, BUT AS JUST AS A PRACTICAL DISCUSSION.
SO IF THERE LIKE SUPPORTING STRUCTURE WAS A PERMIT ISSUED IN 1998, I KNOW THIS
AND THEN THEY ADDED LIKE BECOMES CONFLICTING IN, IN WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR.
BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR IS OKAY, BECAUSE YOU TECHNICALLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VERIZON INSTALLATION.
BUT THAT SHOWS THAT WHEN THEY DID THE VERIZON INSTALLATION THAT THERE WAS A, A CO ISSUED FOR THEIR INSTALLATION.
THAT SHOULD MEAN THAT THE TOWER ITSELF, IT SHOULD THAT BIG BREAK THE TRUCTURE.
WELL I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE TOWN IS REQUIRED TO REVIEW LIKE THE STRUCTURE AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLIC, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S A STRUCTURAL, UM, IT WOULD, THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS REPORT, THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THAT AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMITS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR COMPLETENESS OF THE ANSWER OF THE QUESTIONS.
I'M JUST MAKING THE STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF LIZ GIVES ME A PERMIT OR A CO FROM 1998 AND THEN THAT'S SOMEONE DID SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, UNDERMINE THE STRUCTURAL COM, UH, CAPACITY OF THE TOWER.
WE, WE CAN ASK HER FOR IT AND GET IT TO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PRACTICE AS THE LEGAL PARAMETERS BECOME TIGHTER ON WHAT WE CAN ASK FOR.
WE HAVE TO GO BY EXACTLY WHAT THE QUESTION'S ASKING FOR.
THAT'S, THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND HOPEFULLY I I DON'T MIND ASKING THIS FOR THAT.
I'M SORRY, IT SAYS HARSDALE FIRE DISTRICT DALE ROAD.
THAT'S THE LOCATION SAYS, SAYS WHAT 300 WEST HARSDALE HAVE, THAT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARCEL OWNER ADDRESS IS LISTED HAS IT IS A, AND THAT ROAD AND ROAD IS FURTHER ALL ALONG.
AND IT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WROTE, NOT WHAT YOU YEAH.
THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY HAVE IS LISTED AT THE PARCEL OWNER.
IT'S THE LOCATION'S CORRECT THOUGH.
YEAH, BUT THEY GOTTA FIX THAT.
THAT'S, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A HARD I'M I LOST MY NO, I AGREE.
I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE RECORDING IT.
YEAH, SO THAT, THAT THE BILLY INSPECTOR IS, IS, UH, FRANK MODO.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATE, IT'S 10.
SO IT'S ODD TO HAVE THAT SIGNATURE.
THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY LIZ.
SO IT'S JUST ALL I HAVE
WE, WE WILL NEED TO INQUIRE NOT JUST BECAUSE DALE RUNS INTO NEW YORK IN THIS ADDRESS AS WELL, BUT, UM, BUT THEY SOMETIMES WE'RE RUNNING ACROSS INCORRECT ADDRESS PARCEL OWNER ADDRESSES.
AND IT'S THE ADDRESS PARCEL OWNER IS NOT CORRECT ON THIS.
'CAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE SAME PLACE WHERE YOU'RE APPLYING FOR THE SURE.
SO WILL YOU MAKE YOURSELF A NOTE ABOUT THAT OR SHOULD I MAKE MYSELF A NOTE ON OKAY.
THE MAKE MODEL AND MANUFACTURER, THE ANTENNAS I HAVE IS COMPLETE
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AND GOING ON TO LL SENDS US TO PAGE 38 G 10 G.AND IF YOU LOOK AT, AND, AND AGAIN, MAYBE I'M NOT SEEING IT, BUT IT SAYS IS FOR FREQUENCY, MODULATION AND CLASS OF SERVICE, WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO SEE THOSE THREE WORDS? UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE START OF THE THIRD PARAGRAPH.
AND IT DOES SAY QUALITY, ALL OF THEM IDENTIFY IT AS FREQUENCIES.
IT DOES SAY CALLS OF SERVICES.
ALL OF THE ANSWERS IDENTIFY FREQUENCIES.
CLARIFY THAT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
GOING BACK TO THE, UH, FIRE DISTRICT.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A NOTARY, UM, RIGHT.
JUST WESTCHESTER INSTEAD OF QUALIFIED IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY WHERE THAT'S THE ONE FOR THE WHAT, WHAT APP IS THAT FOR? THAT'S HER, THAT'S HER STAMP.
I KNOW, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY QUALIFIED IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
I CA I'M NOT GONNA CHANGE HER STAMP.
I'M JUST, I'M IT HAS HER LICENSE NUMBER RIGHT THERE TOO.
I'M JUST LOOKING IT UP JUST TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I'M NUMBER AND IT HAS TO SAY QUALIFIED IN.
I MEAN I, I, I, I DON'T THINK IT IS, IT'S NOT, I KNOW I DON'T THINK IT SAYS THE WORD QUALIFIED, BUT I I DO THINK IT'S A, IT WOULD, IT WOULD PASS MUST BECAUSE SHE HAS HER LICENSE NUMBER, UH, ON THERE SO IT CAN BE LOOKED UP.
JUST, I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMEBODY DO IT THAT WAY.
IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHY SOMEBODY WOULD DO IT THAT WAY.
SO WHEN I SPEAK TO RAY ABOUT THIS, SO NICE, WE'VE GIVEN HIM MORE WORK.
THE NUMBER AND, UH, M IS COMPLETE, N IS COMPLETE.
NOW WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE, AND AND THIS IS A CONVERSATION, UM, THE FOR THREE, IT SAYS T-MOBILE'S RF STATEMENT CONFIRMS THAT T-MOBILE WILL SUBMIT THE ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT ON OR BEFORE JANUARY 31ST.
IT SUBMITS A COMPLIANCE REPORT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE.
UH, SO IF YOU CAN ADD THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IN COMPLIANCE WORDS BETTER, THAT'S WHAT WE TELL THOSE LITTLE 21 MONTH OLDS
OH, WE'RE TELLING THEM NOT TO THIS 4 21 MONTH OLD.
SO, OH, IT'S NEW LANGUAGE O SAYS HERE AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE OLD LANGUAGE AND I'LL READ IT TO YOU FROM THE OTHER APPLICATION IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE YOU'VE ADDED, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS OR BROADBAND OR RA TELEVISION OR RADIO SYSTEMS AND WHAT WE'VE HAD ALL THESE MANY YEARS AFTER THE PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS WE, WE HAVE TO ANYWAY AND WE WON'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST PROVIDING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NICE.
UM, THAT'S IT UP FOR, WITH THE LANGUAGES LIKE THE EXISTING ANTENNAS, THE PROPOSED ANTENNAS WILL NOT CAUSE HARMFUL INTERFERENCE WITH THE EXISTING COMMUNICATION SHOULD DEVICES.
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THAT THE PROPOSED ANTENNA CAUSE HARMFUL INTERFERENCE IN THE EXISTING COMMUNICATIONS DEVICES, VERIZON.UM, SO THERE'S A NEW LEGAL COUNSEL AT T-MOBILE WHO DRAFTED THAT LETTER.
UM, THIS IS A PREEMPTED TOPIC.
I'LL DISCUSS IT WITH THEM AND I'LL MAKE THE REQUEST.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THIS TIME.
THERE'S A DIFFERENT AUTHOR JUST EX I UNDERSTAND GIVING YOU AN EXPLANATION.
SO YOU CAN TELL HIM THAT OTHER ATTORNEYS HAD HAD PROBLEM AT I I'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT IT'S, IT WASN'T, UH, I DIDN'T DRAFT THE LETTER SO I'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH MY CLIENT BECAUSE IT IS A PREEMPTIVE TOPIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES YOU'VE REQUESTED.
I AM SORRY, WHAT WAS THE PREEMPTIVE TOPIC? SO, UH, THE WHOLE TOPIC OF O OF RF INTERFERENCE IS A PREEMPTIVE TOPIC.
THAT WAS KIND OF THE DISCUSSIONS ON ALL OF THE PRIOR LANGUAGE SMITH.
EVEN VERIZON'S, WE CITE TO THE CLARKSTOWN CASE AND SAY IT'S PREEMPTED AND THEN WE INCLUDE A LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, HOWEVER, IN THE EVENT HARMFUL INTERFERENCE OCCURS, WE'LL REMEDY IN COURSE WITH FCC REQUIREMENTS.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S A PREEMPTED TOPIC.
THEY CHANGED THE LANGUAGE IN THE LETTER FROM THE PRIOR VERSION OF THE LETTER.
UM, 'CAUSE THEY FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LANGUAGE.
BUT, AND BECAUSE IT'S A NEW ATTORNEY WHO NEEDS TO HAVE WHATEVER ROOM, WHATEVER.
UM, BUT I WILL DISCUSS WITH THEM.
BUT IF THEY HAVE TO DO IT ACCORDING TO FCC REGULATIONS ANYWAY, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE OF HAVING MR THAT'S WHY I'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
WE'RE JUST MAKING AN EXPLANATION.
IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS YOU'RE SAYING YOU MUST COMPLY WITH FCC
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, IT DIDN'T HAVE THE PRIOR LANGUAGE THAT THIS BOARD HAS ACCEPTED.
UM, ON THE NOW WE'RE UP TO NOISE.
YOU TO WHAT? THE NOISE REPORT P ITEM P.
AND THAT'S 39 H DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS WRONG ON THAT AS GREENBERG? I ALREADY HAVE THAT DOWN FROM THE, THE NAME.
THERE'S A REPORT HERE AND, AND IT COMPLIES WITH THE TOWN.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, FRANCIS? I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.
WELL REMEMBER THAT TO THE NEXT ONE.
YEAH, WE, UH, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
THEY ACTUALLY TOOK BENJAMIN'S THERE.
THEY DID THE EQUIPMENT AS WELL.
AND THEN THEY, WITH THE EQUIPMENT PLUS WHAT'S THERE, THEY CLEARLY STATED IT WAS UNDER 65 DVA.
SO IT WAS GOOD TO GO TO THE SITE AND TAKE THEM.
UM, COMPLETE, BUT I'M ALSO WRITING CORRECT ADDRESS.
SO IF THERE'S A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHERE TO LOOK FOR IT.
THE QUEUE IS COMPLETE AND WE WENT TO A THREE DEFENSE FOR THE EXISTING FACILITY AS PRIVACY SLOTS.
THE QUESTION IS IF THE EXISTING FACILITY UTILIZES CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION WILL BE DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXISTING CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS AND THE PROPOSED INSTALLATION WILL NOT DEFEAT SAID CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS.
AND THE ANSWER PROVIDED IS THE FENCE FOR THE EXISTING FACILITY HAS PRIVACY SLOTS, WHICH ARE BARE CARBON COPY.
I HAVE, UH, 11 BY 17 PLAN COPIES IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO REVIEW.
I SURE I WAS IN THE, SO IT SAYS A
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AND I WENT TO LOOK AT THE, IT SAYS EXISTING SLATED CHAIN LINK.COULD YOU SHOW ME THIS? THE PRIVACY SLOTS WHERE THAT IS? SO SLATTED IS, IS SUPPOSED TO BE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING FOR THE PRIVACY SLOT.
SO EXISTING SLATTED TRAILING FENCE, THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE THE SLATS IN THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE DETAIL ON SHEET A SEVEN THAT'S GOT A, UM, LIKE A COLOR SWATCH FOR THE, UM, FOR THE EXISTING FENCE COLOR.
DO WE HAVE ANTENNA COLORS? YEAH, WE HAVE THAT RIGHT NEXT TO IT, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT.
THAT'S A, A DIFFERENT, UH, QUESTION S IN LIKE, UH, S WE'RE ON, I BELIEVE, UH, R YES.
BUT YES, WE, WE DO HAVE THAT AS WELL.
SO IF WE LOOK AT THE FENCE ON, YEP.
SO IT SHOWS ME THE GATE AND THE FENCE, BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW ME OR IDENTIFY IN ANY WAY WHERE THE CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS ARE.
WE CAN HAVE 'EM ADDED TO THAT DETAIL.
AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD IF SOMEPLACE YOU SAID WHEN YOU SAID IT'S SLOTTED THAT YOU, IT'S IT'S PRIVACY SLOTS.
SO WE ARE SAYING HERE, ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? NO.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO ADD THE CLAR, CLARIFY THAT THE, THE NOTE THAT THE SLASH IS PRIVACY SLASH AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN ADD TO THE DETAIL.
I TO LOOK UP THE WORD SLANTED.
WHEN YOU ADD TO EXISTING SLATTED CHAIN LINK, ADD TO THE TOP THAT IT SAYS EXISTING SELF SUPPORT, A HARD SALE, FIRE DEPARTMENT SELF-SUPPORT TOWER.
UH, I DON'T SEE THAT IT SAYS THAT THEY OWN IT ON THIS.
IN, IN ANY PARTICULAR PLACE ON THE PLANS OR, YEAH, WE HAVE IT RIGHT UP HERE.
WENT DOWN ON A TWO, AS I SAID.
TOP OF EXISTING FIRE DEPARTMENT THREE.
I HAVE, I'M LOOKING AT A THREE, SO.
IT'S, YEAH, THE, THEY'RE BUT BEFORE AND AFTER, RIGHT.
SO ADD THAT DALE FIRE DISTRICT IS THE OWNER.
AND IF YOU CAN PUT IT ON BOTH, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S A YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN ADD IT TO BOTH.
DOES ANYONE OWN THE UM, THE ICE BRIDGES? UH, NOT REALLY.
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I MEAN, ICE BRIDGES ARE FOR THE, UM, ALL THE EQUIPMENT.SO I THINK THEY WERE PROBABLY INSTALLED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UM, ALL THE CARRIERS, IF THIS WAS OWNED BY SOME, IF THE TOWER WAS OWNED BY ANOTHER COMPANY, THEN IT WOULD'VE BEEN THEIR SLOTS.
IN THIS INSTANCE IT MIGHT BE THE HARD STUFF.
I THINK IT'S MORE RELATED TO LIKE HOW THE, THE TOWER'S LOCATED.
SO ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT KIND OF GOES AROUND THE BUILDING MM-HMM
SO WHEN THEY PUT THE, THE ICE, UH, BRIDGES, THEY JUST PUT IT AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN ALL THE CARRIERS DID UNDERNEATH.
WHEREAS WHEN WE HAVE THE KIND OF STANDARD TOWER, WHICH IS A SQUARE COMPOUND, THEY'LL PUT THE ICE BRIDGE THAT GOES OUT TO VERIZON.
SO THAT'D BE VERIZON'S ICE BRIDGE.
THEN A SEPARATE ONE WOULD GO OUT.
IT IS THE CONFIGURATION, MORE OF THE LAYOUT THEN BECAUSE YOU'RE AROUND, IT'S LIKE IN AN L SHAPE RATHER THAN A, UH, A SQUARE.
'CAUSE OF THE, THE BUILDING, YOU'RE AROUND THE CORNER OF THAT BACK DRAWING SCREEN INSTEAD OF REDSTONE.
WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE ME THINK ABOUT WHERE I SHOULD PUT THAT? I, NO, I PUT THAT ON THE CORRECT ADDRESS, BUT YOU PUT IT BY THE UNDER ONE.
A ONE OR SI MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL GET IT CREDIT.
IS IT ON THE DRAWINGS ALSO? SURE.
WHICH PAGE? FIRST COLOR? IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE COLOR SWAB FOR THE FENCE.
DO YOU HAVE A FIRST WITH SIGNAGES ON THE YEP.
WHERE IS IT LOCATED? ON THE GROUND WHERE? SO WE HAVE BOTH.
SO A SEVEN, WE SHOW THE, THE ACCESS GATE DETAIL THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL SIGN.
AND WHERE IS THE GATE? AND THEN YOU HAVE, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT DRAWING.
UH, A ONE A ONE'S LIKE THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS EXISTING BUILDING, THE, THE NOTES THAT ARE LIKE IN THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, EXISTING TOWN SIGN ON GATE WILL BE POSTED.
UH, FIVE FEET EYE CONTRACTOR FIELD BUILDING AND LIGHTING.
I HAVE A, I DON'T SEE IT EXACTLY.
WE HAVE TO MAKE OTHER CHANGES TO THE PLANS.
I'LL ADD IT'S THERE OR I'LL ADD IT TO THE PLANS.
BUT WE, WE WILL ADD A NOTE TO THE PLANS REGARDING LIGHT AND THE NORMAL, UM, DETAILS REGARDING UH, IF IT'S GOT A AUTOMATIC TIMER SWITCH OR, OR A MOTION SENSOR.
WE HAVE OUR SIGN AND IT SAYS ALUMINUM, RIGHT? YES.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE TOP RIGHT HAND, THE, THE INSTALLER NOTES.
UM, NOTE NUMBER THREE ON THE INSTALLER NOTE IS SIGN WILL BE MADE OF
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A STAINLESS STEELER ALUMINUM PLATE.AND THEN HOW ARE WE ON INSURANCE? IT'S KIND OF A MESS.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE TWO THEY OF LIABILITY INSURANCES.
UM, SO I BELIEVE IN THE PAST WE'VE ONLY REVIEWED T-MOBILE'S AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT REVIEWS, UH, THE CONTRACTOR INSURANCE.
SO IN C FIRST PAGE HAS INSURANCE THAT EXPIRES THIS MONTH.
THAT WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE UPDATED.
UM, AND IT, UH, WHO IS ELECTRO PUES LINK WIRELESS? THAT'S THE CONTRACTOR.
SO THIS, THIS AND TAB C IS THE CONTRACTOR'S INSURANCE.
IN THE PAST, THE APPLICATION, UH, QUESTION'S BEEN REFERRED TO THE T-MOBILE INSURANCE, WHICH IS TAP D WHO IS THE CONTRACTOR DOING THE WORK.
BUT THAT'S USUALLY JUST BUILDING DEPARTMENT REVIEWS, THE CONTRACTOR INSURANCE.
THEN THE QUESTION IN THE CODE IS RELATED TO T-MOBILE'S INSURANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
AND THEN IN ED WAS THE, THE T-MOBILE'S LIABILITY D THE ADDRESS IS WRONG.
ALSO, THE INSURANCE IS GONNA REQUIRE MAIL.
SO THEY, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED.
THEY CAN'T REALLY RENEW IT BEFORE THE EXPIRATION.
BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT IS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.
BUT IT ALSO HAS WAIVER OF SATION, UM, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE OTHER ONES.
UM, BUT IT SAYS AS REQUIRED BY WRITTEN CONTRACT.
THERE'S NO WRITTEN CONTRACT REQUIRING THAT WE CAN, I'LL HAVE THEM SINCE THEY'RE DOING THE THE OTHER STUFF.
I'LL SEE IF THEY CAN CLARIFY THAT.
BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS.
SO YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY, YEAH.
UM, US ATTORNEYS ALWAYS ADDING THESE LANGUAGE.
UH, SO COULD YOU CORRECT THE ADDRESS AND UH, I GUESS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ASSUME, ARE YOU EXPECTING TO ACTUALLY DO THIS PRIOR TO ME? UH, IT DEPENDS ON WHEN THE, WHEN THE PERMIT'S ISSUED.
I MEAN, THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS ARE USUALLY ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS.
BUT UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, THE ISSUE IS IS THAT, UH, THEY CAN'T CALL LOCKTON COMPANIES AND SAY, CAN YOU GIVE US THE NEW INSURANCE CERTIFICATE BEFORE THE EXISTING ONE EXPIRES? NO, I GET IT.
BUT AT THE TOP IT SAYS 5 1 20 26.
WHERE IS THAT? OVER THE UPPER CORNER.
THAT'S I THINK THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE FIRST THING.
SO THEY, THEY PUT A NOTE IN THERE ON THEIR OWN.
THAT'S LIKE SOMETHING THAT T-MOBILE WROTE ON ITS INSURANCE CERTIFICATE.
I THINK IT'S INTERNAL TRACKING.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE OTHER ONE.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE CONTRACTOR'S, UH, CERTIFICATE.
UM, AND MAYBE YOU GUYS JUST WENT OVER THIS.
SO THE FOUR 11 IS THE DATE THE PAPER WAS ISSUED.
4 5 1 IS WHEN IT EXPIRES? YEAH, THAT'S THE, IF YOU GO TO THE POLICY EXPIRATION DATE, THAT'S ALL THE, ALL THE POLICIES ARE LINED UP WITH THAT.
SO I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN INTERNAL TRACKING SO THAT THEY KNOW WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE OWED A RENEWAL AND THE COMPANY LETS YOU KNOW AUTOMATICALLY YEAH, THEY, THEY LOCKED IN PRETTY GOOD.
'CAUSE THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY GONNA CHARGE YOU FOR THE RENEWAL.
SO THEY'RE GONNA SEND YOU THAT NEW ONE AS WELL.
ALL I'M SEEING IS THE CERTIFICATE OF LIABILITY.
I'M NOT SEEING A WORKMAN'S COMP HERE, IS SHOULD I BE SEEING A WORKMAN'S COMP HERE? SO USUALLY WHAT WE DID IS, IS THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF LIABILITY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS, IS WHAT WE UH, CERTIFICATE OF LIABILITY FOR, UM, T-MOBILE IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR THIS.
THEN THE WORKMAN'S COMP IS THE CONTRACTOR STUFF.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT, THAT'S GOING BACK AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.
YEAH, SO WORKMAN'S COMP IS ON 11, UH,
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TAD C OKAY.BECAUSE LIKE ONE IS JUST THE PROPERTY INSURANCE.
YEAH, THAT WAS THE T-MOBILE ONE AND THEN TWO AND THREE, UH, REGARDING THE, UM, THE CONTRACTOR.
SO TO MY EYE, THE WORKERS' COMP IS FINE.
AND THEN THE DISABILITY IS OKAY, COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE WITH RESPECT TO THE ALGORITHMS ACTIVITIES, THAT'S THREE AND THAT'S ON PAGE SIX.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE THE COVERAGE LIMITS.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE UMBRELLA KICKS IN AT THE 5 MILLION.
SO TO ME THAT'S ALSO COMPLETE.
SO IT'S REALLY THE PROPERTY LIABILITY ISSUE OF CORRECTING THE ADDRESS.
WELL ALSO I GOTTA GET THE, UM, UH, WE, WE'LL HAVE THE WORK SITE LOCATION IN YOUR CONTRACTOR LIABILITY TO MATCH UP WITH THE OTHER COMMENTS WE HAD.
THIS ONE SAYS WORK SITE LOCATION, GREENBURG, NEW YORK.
WE'LL HAVE THAT CORRECTED TO SAY HARTSDALE, JUST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER COMMENTS.
SO I I JUST HAVE ONE MORE ON THE COVER PAGE.
THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE PERSON LEFT LAST YEAR.
SO IF YOU JUST CALL THAT NUMBER, YOU'LL GET THE NEW PERSON.
SO I'M GONNA PUT THAT UNDER THE, UNDER ONE BECAUSE THAT'S CONTACT INFORMATION.
SO I'M MAKING IT NUMBER FIVE HERE.
I HAVE DID YOU LOOK UP SLATTED? I LOOKED IT UP, YEAH.
YEAH, I TURNED IT INTO AN ADJECTIVE.
SO WELL KEEP IN MIND FOR COURSE PROPOSALS,
UM, FOR, FOR ONE, FOR A, IT'S UH, THE, WE HAVE IT AS INCOMPLETE AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS THOMAS MOORE, WHO IS BE BETHANY.
W WE NEED CREDENTIALS, QUALIFICATIONS FOR ALL.
WE NEED THE CORRECT ADDRESS ON THE DRAWINGS AND WE NEED THE CORRECT CONTACT PERSON FOR THE WESTDALE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
B WAS COMPLETE, C WAS COMPLETE.
D YOU'RE GONNA CONFIRM THAT THE LA THE LATITUDE AND THE LONGITUDE, UM, E WAS COMPLETE.
CLARIFY THE AFFIDAVIT THAT RAYMOND MEIDA IS SIGNING ON BEHALF OF THE HARSDALE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, A DESCRIPTION OF 4G IS IN COMPLETE ANSWER.
SHOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING PROVIDED BY PROVIDED IN THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN.
UM, H PROVIDE A COPY OF THIS OF WE,
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THIS IS THE CO FOR THE STRUCTURE.OKAY, THIS IS, I WROTE THIS IN THE WRONG PLACE, BUT I DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GO OVER J AND I HAD A QUESTION ON J FOR J HAD ADD BETH TO IT.
FOR JI HAD ADD BETH, BECAUSE THAT'S STILL YES, THE AD AS WELL.
BUT I HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION ABOUT, OKAY, THAT'S BETHANY.
WHAT I HAVE WHICH ONE? WHAT IS THE CITATION? J AND OH NO, JAY'S.
JAY IS, UH, WHICH WE'LL CALL ADD THOMAS MOORE.
IT'S GONNA BE SCRATCHED OUT AND WE APPRECIATE THE BATES NUMBER, RIGHT? THE BATES NUMBERING.
BUT PUT THE NUMBER ON THE EACH PAGE IN CONSECUTIVE ORDER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TABS OR NOTHING.
I TRIED TO FIND THIS ANSWER ON ANOTHER ONE.
WHAT IT SAYS IS THIS IS THE, UH, STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS REPORT.
AND IT GIVES THIS REALLY
SO THAT'S NOT LIKE GRADES IN THE SCHOOL.
SO THAT THE LOWER NUMBER IS BETTER.
I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS THE LOWER WHAT, HOW DOES SO, SO FOR, SO THEY'RE NOT LIKING THE FACT THAT IT'S 89% THEN NO 80 POINT THAT PASSES, BUT IT DOESN'T, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.
YEAH, SO, UM, SO BASICALLY IT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CAPACITY.
SO UP TO I THINK 105% CAPACITY.
'CAUSE THESE ARE CONSERVATIVELY ENGINEERED PASSES UNDER NEW YORK STATE, UH, BUILDING CODE AND FEDERAL STRUCTURAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHEN IT SAYS 80.9% PASS, THAT MEANS THE TOWER LOADING IS AT 80.9% OF THE CAPACITY.
THE FOUNDATION LOADING IS AT 28% OF THE CAPACITY.
MEANING THERE'S A LOT MORE MORE THAT THEY COULD ADD YEAH.
FOR TO LOAD ONTO THE, BUT THE FOUNDATIONS ARE ALWAYS OVER-ENGINEERED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THAT THING FALLING DOWN.
AND IT'S EASY TO PULL MORE COPPER.
WELL THAT, BUT ALSO I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LATTICE TOWERS DESIGN.
IT'S, IT'S SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THIS TYPE OF DESIGN.
THE MONOPOLE, YOU'RE MORE, YOU KNOW, DIGGING DEEPER INTO THE GROUND.
ALSO, I, IT IS INCOMPLETE, BUT IT'S INCOMPLETE BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA ADD YEAH.
THOMAS, MORE INFORMATION AND THEN JUST IF YOU WANT, UM, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 55 OF THE, OF THE REPORT, IT KIND OF EXPLAINS MORE OF THAT, OF THOSE FIGURES.
WHAT THE 80.9% CAPACITY AND THE 28% CAPACITY IT GIVES YOU LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A TABLE.
SO LIKE HOW THEY GOT TO THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING ALL THESE AND THEN THE, THE STATEMENTS BELOW EACH, LIKE FOR US ABOUT IT, IT PASSES.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I STATED IS SUPPORTED BY THE STATEMENTS ON THAT.
IT'S, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE ENGINEER SAID.
WE WOULDN'T JUST, WE WOULDN'T ACCEPT THE PAST.
WELL I'M NOT THE PE SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU KNOW THAT I, THIS IS INTERESTING.
WHAT'S THE ANCHOR ROD? THE ANCHOR ROD IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT'S DIG FROM THE TOWER INTO THE ACTUAL FOUNDATION.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SURE, BUT WE THINK, WELL, IT'S A TERM I'M NOT, I JUST, I JUST DON'T WANT TO QUOTE IT THEN.
I I'M NOT THE ENGINEER, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I CAN GO BACK AND DO MY MORE HOMEWORK.
UM, SO WE SAID J IS INCOMPLETE BECAUSE OF THOMAS MOORE.
CLARIFY THE ANSWER ON PAGE 38.
FREQUENCIES IN CLASS OF SERVICE, YOUR HONOR.
AN ANCHOR ROD IS A HIGH STRENGTH STEEL
I, I DIDN'T GET TO FINISH TYPING IT.
I I ASSUMED IT WAS WHAT CONNECTS THE TOWER TO THE FOUNDATION.
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THEY ALSO HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT FOR HOMES WHEN THEY'RE IN HIGH WIND AREAS BECAUSE THEY'LL ACTUALLY, UH, TAKE THE SILL PLATE.
THEY DO THIS ANCHOR IN MODULAR HOMES IS WHAT THEY ALSO DO WITH, THEY SOLD A MODULAR HOME IN CLINTONDALE AND THEY HAD TO HAVE IT.
IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR FOUNDATION IS.
SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE HOUSES THAT HAVE LIKE DEEP BEDROCK AND SO THEY'LL ACTUALLY PIN IT TO THE BEDROCK WITH THE ANCHOR RODS.
WE ARE NOW UP TO L WHICH NEEDS TO CLARIFY THE ANSWER ON PAGE 38.
YOU'RE GONNA ADD INCOMPLIANCE LANGUAGE.
FOUR M AND O IS REMOVE THE NEW LANGUAGE, GO TO STANDARD LANGUAGE.
UM, IS IT TOO WOKE? UM, ON P THAT IS COMPLETE Q COMPLETE ARE INCOMPLETE.
COMPLETE CLARIFY NOTES THAT THEY ARE PRIVACY SLATS ON THE DRAWINGS AS WE NEED, UH, LIGHTING ANSWERED.
UH, ANSWER NO LIGHTING DETAILS AND PRIVACY TO SLATS.
20 ORT IS COMPLETE, U IS COMPLETE INSURANCE.
UM, THE FIR PROP PROPERTY INSURANCE FOR PROPERTY REPLACEMENT COSTS ASKS ALL THE, WE NEED ADDRESS CORRECTION.
UM, LOCATION OF WORK, COUNT ADDRESS, WORKER'S COMP IS COMPLETE AND THE COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE.
BUT MAYBE THE, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE DOWN IS COMPLETE.
NO, THE ONE THAT EXPIRED THIS MONTH AFTER
UM, SO YEAH, THEY'LL HAVE TO, IT'S THE SUPER BOWL.
WHAT IS THAT SUNDAY? BY THE WAY? AN ANCHOR ROD IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH AN ANCHORED BOAT.
AN ANCHOR ROD IS OFTEN STRAIGHT, FULLY THREADED AND DOUBLE-ENDED USED WITH METAL UM, PLATES.
WELL, ANCHOR BOLTS TYPICALLY HAVE AN LHA SO THAT IT WILL BETTER RESIST PULLING OUT THE FEATHER.
OKAY, SO BEFORE I HAND THIS TO YOU, I'M GOING TO HAND IT TO FRANCIS TO, THERE'S ABOUT THREE MORE PARAGRAPHS.
YEAH,
SO I'M GOING TO, I DID NOT TAKE THE VOTE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE VOTE FOR THIS APPLICATION, THIS INCOMPLETE.
YOU KNOW THE ONE THAT JUST GAVE US THE SMALL ONE.
IT'S GOOD, BUT I CAN'T READ A WORD ON IT.
WELL, THAT'S WHY WE GIVE PHONES.
YEAH, THAT'S, I NEED A MAGNIFYING GLITZ WITH IT.
SAY, UH, CONFIRMED LONGITUDE, LATITUDE FOR THE COW.
OTHERWISE THEY COULD JUST CONFIRM THAT THAT'S THE PROPERTY.
AND THE FUN IS JUST BECAUSE I THINK I KNOW CATHERINE NOW 30 YEARS WHO'S COUNTER AND I CAN READ HER HANDWRITING.
SORRY, I'VE BEEN WORKING UNDER MY BOSS FOR 10.
SOMETIMES
WHEN I LOOK BACK AT COLLEGE, I HAD REALLY CLEAR I COULD WRITE
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SO SMALL AND IT WAS PERFECT AND I'M BOY DID I, I MUST HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, BUT I HAD NO KIDS.SO I COULD SIT THERE AND LIKE, IT WAS GORGEOUS.
HE'S LIKE, HE GOT HANDWRITING THIS LIKE TYPE PRINT.
AND THEN MY MOM IS LIKE CURSIVE THAT HAS VERY LIBERAL, UH, LETTERS.
I LEARNED THE PALMER ABOUT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT IS ANYMORE.
SO YOU, YOU HEARD THAT IN NEW JERSEY THEY PASSED A LAW THAT YOU HAVE TO TEACH KIDS CURSIVE AGAIN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS WONDERFUL.
I PERSONALLY WAS VERY HAPPY BY IT BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE DON'T, THEIR HANDWRITING HAS GOTTEN SO BAD THAT IT IS A CONTROL THING.
IT REALLY HELPS WITH WELL THEY, WELL KIDS CAN'T SIGN THEIR OWN NAMES.
I WAS WRITING IN COLLEGE, I WAS WRITING ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE A STUDENT SAID, WE CAN'T READ WHAT YOU'RE WRITING.
AND I SAID, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I HAD NO IDEA.
THEY STOPPED TEACHING CURSIVE,
SO COMING BACK, COMING BACK, THEY PASSED THE LAW SAYING IT HAS TO BE TAUGHT.
'CAUSE HOW DO YOU READ OLD DOCUMENTS? YOU KNOW, THAT IS I ASSUMING
IT'S FUN WHEN YOU GET THE OLD.
WHEN YOU GET THE OLD DEEDS FROM LIKE 1950S AND PRE AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, I GOTTA LEAK.
BUT THE OTHER TO THESE LIVE PAGES, YOU GO TO THE DEEDS OF THE COUNTY, I CAN SPEND HOURS JUST NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO, I MEAN THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTING.
YEAH, THEY, SOME OF THE EASEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE IN THERE, IT'S LIKE YOU GET A PROPERTY OWNER EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE IT'LL COME TO YOU AND YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
DID YOU READ THIS CLAUSE IN YOUR THING?
THE, UH, I JUST GOING DOWN INTO THE STACKS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU, IT'S JUST CRAZY THAT WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF NOT DOING, I CAN'T EVEN DRINK AGES ANYMORE.
IT'S LIKE I DON'T HAVE TO READ IT AGAIN.
SO WE DECIDED THIS IS INCOMPLETE AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING I WILL GO UPSTAIRS AND COPIES MADE AND STAMP IT.
GIVE US ALL, LET'S GET STARTED ON THREE 13 CENTRAL AVENUE.
UM, AS NOTED, MICHAEL IS NOT HERE AND I MUST HAVE BEEN KNOWING THAT WAS HAPPENING.
YOU WERE LISTED AS THE APPLICANT ANYWAY.
WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THIS ONE HE'S LISTED THE, OH, I GOT, I BETTER GET MY, UH, CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT TOGETHER.
OH, IT SHOULD KNOW THAT, THAT TOO NEEDS TO BE CORRECT.
YEAH, I'LL HAVE IT CORRECTION, BUT IF IT'S NOT HERE I CAN'T, WE CAN'T BRING IT UP AGAIN.
SO I'M GOING TO ADD TO CORRECT ADDRESS ON DRAWING.
UH, NAME OF CONTACT PERSON FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT IS THAT? CORRECT? UH, APPLICANT LISTED AND LISTED.
OKAY, SO THIS IS THREE 13 CENTRAL AVENUE AND UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED ON THE 3RD OF NOVEMBER, 2025.
WE REVIEWED IT ON THE 10TH OF NOVEMBER, 20 25, 7 DAYS LATER.
THIS WAS SUBMITTED ON THE 28TH OF JANUARY, 2026.
AND WE ARE REVIEWING IT ON THE FIFTH, UM, ON THE 5TH OF FEBRUARY, 20 26, 8 DAYS LATER.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THE MORE I BEGAN READING IT AGAIN, THE MORE CONFUSED I GOT.
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ON PAGE, THIS IS THE, WHAT I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT, UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE LAST ONE.IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 74, UM, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH ATTEST TO THE CREDENTIALS.
WE CAN ADD SOMETHING IN THERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE CAN GET SOMETHING IN THAT INTO OUR LETTER.
SO THE STRUCTURAL REPORT, THAT'S FINE.
THE FCC COMPLIANCE, THE, UM, REPORT WAS BY ANDREW SIMPSON, PROJECT MANAGER C EXHIBIT B, AND A PAGE 63 B, PAGE 63.
AND THAT IS ATTESTED TO, THIS IS ALSO THE EXPLAN KIND OF EXPLANATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN GET 'EM TO DO THAT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE SAME COMPANY TECHNICALLY EBI, THEY, THEY WORK WITH THE NOISE REPORT PEOPLE, SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO REPRODUCE THAT AS WELL FOR, FOR T-MOBILE.
AND I HAD THE FIRST ONE WAS THE, WHAT? YOU JUST, UH, PULLED UP THE CREDENTIALS FOR ALI.
I THINK THAT WAS YOUR FIRST COMMENT THAT I HAD LISTED IS THAT THEY DIDN'T IN THE FIRST TIME THE RF STATEMENT HAVE THE, HAVE THE CREDENTIALS FOR, UH, FOR OLLIE.
AND NOW THAT THEY'VE ADDED THAT PARAGRAPH, SO ONE IS COMPLETE, IT'S TWO THAT I HAVE MY NOTE ON THIS, ON THE WRONG SECTION SHOULD BE UNDER B.
UM, THIS IS THE ONE WHERE THEY SOLD THE EASEMENT, THE PROPERTY.
AND TECHNICALLY, LIKE THE WAY IT WORKS IS LIKE IT'S AN EASEMENT FOR THE WIRELESS FACILITY.
SO IT'S LIKE SOMEONE OWNS THE TOWER AND THEN THERE'S THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER SOLD LIKE THE PROPERTY INTEREST RIGHTS IN THE TOWER.
SO LIKE BASICALLY TO COLLECT THE RENT AND, AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT BI WENT BACK TO A COUPLE OF THEM TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND BECAUSE BEACH BEACHMONT USED TO BE, I I IT'S IN THE DEED PART ALSO, BUT I WENT TO LOOK AT THIS ONE, WHICH WAS FOR, UM, SPRINT, WHICH MUST HAVE BEEN YOU AT 2013 SCHNEIDER, WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? 2019? YEAH, I THINK WE HAD A MORE RECENT ONE THOUGH FOR WHEN DISH WAS TRYING TO GO ON THERE.
I DIDN'T HAVE EVERYTHING AT HOME TO GRAB
BUT I ACTUALLY DID PRINT IT UP, BUT I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER COLLEENA FROM MY DISH APPLICATION.
THIS ONE IS, THIS ONE IS FROM 2023.
SO I TRIED TO NAVIGATE THE OWNERSHIP AND ON THE, ON THE ONE THAT YOU DID IN 2023, AND HERE IT'S BOTH FELINA, BUT THIS IS FELINA.
CAN YOU, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS COLEENA PROPERTIES SOUTH SALEM WHOSE PREDECESSOR IN INTEREST GRANTED IN AN EASEMENT OVER THE PROPERTY TO AP WIRELESS INVESTMENTS.
LLC, WHICH OFFICES? AT FORT IN SAN DIEGO.
A POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS VITO DI.
SO WHEN I GO HERE, YOU HAVE VITO ALSO ON THIS? I I'M TRYING, THE REASON FOR BRINGING THIS UP IS I'M, I'M TRYING VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHERE AP WIRELESS'S OWNERSHIP COMES IN HERE.
SO, UM, THINKING IF WE TO AN AGREEMENT TO KIND OF HELP YES, IT'S, IT'S HERE, BUT IT'S
SO THAT WOULD BE I THINK UNDER F, WHICH TELLS US TO GO TO 78.
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YEAH, THIS IS THE SIXTH AMENDMENT.SO, AND SO IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IT TALKS ABOUT THIS UNDER RECITALS MM-HMM
SO THE WAY IT WORKED WAS THAT BEACHMONT AND UH, NEW YORK SMSA VERIZON HAD A LEASE FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN WHAT MIKE HAS EXPLAINED HERE IS THAT BEACHMONT THEN BEFORE IT SOLD THE PROPERTY TO CLEAN UP, SOLD THE INTEREST IN THE TOWER TO AP WIRELESS INVESTMENTS.
SO THEN AP WIRELESS INVESTMENTS OWNS AN EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY THEY OWN THE, THE WIRELESS TOWER GROUND.
SO THE PROPERTY OWNER COLLEENA WAS SOLD THE PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THAT EASEMENT.
BEACHMONT SOLD THE PROPERTY TO COLLEENA, SUBJECT TO THE EASEMENT.
THEY BOUGHT IT SUBJECT TO THAT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
KANA BOUGHT IT SUBJECT TO THE EASEMENT THAT WAS ALREADY RECORDED AGAINST THE PROPERTY THAT BEACHMONT HAD SOLD TO AP WIRELESS INVESTMENTS.
I THINK AP WIRELESS INVESTMENTS HAS SEVERAL SIMILAR TYPE OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP INTERESTS IN OTHER AREAS IN WESTCHESTER.
I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, FACILITY IN GREENBURY EVEN THAT THEY, I THINK IT'S A ROOFTOP ONE THAT THEY OWN.
SO THEY'RE PRETTY COMMON WHERE THEY COME IN AND THEY BUY UP THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS FOR THE RIGHT TO COLLECT THE RENT.
WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH THAT IS THAT IT'D BE WRITTEN CORRECTLY.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT HAS COLEENA BEING THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY THEY ARE RIGHT.
BUT IF I AM DEALING WITH THE TOWER, THE MONOPOLE, I WOULD GO TO AP BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PRO, THEY HAVE THE CONTROL OF THAT EASEMENT, CORRECT? YES.
BUT THEY ONLY HAVE EASEMENT RIGHTS.
SO LIKE ESSENTIALLY YOU WOULD STILL NEED TO GO TO THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR PROBABLY MOST STUFF.
SO THE EASEMENT, IT'S REALLY LIKE WHAT I'M TRYING TO BOIL IT DOWN TO IS THEY REALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COLLECT THE RENT.
BUT, BUT THEY DO TECHNICALLY OWN AN EASEMENT OF CONTROL AND SYSTEM.
IF YOU'RE GONNA COURT TO SAY YOU DID SOMETHING, YOU WOULD NAME BOTH OF THEM.
AND WE DON'T HAVE IT WRITTEN THAT WAY HERE.
SO, UM, SO IT NEEDS TO BE SAID THAT THE EASEMENT OWNER, NOW WE, THIS IS, THIS IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DISTILL NO, I GOT IT.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO IN BI RIGHT NOW, IT TALKS ABOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO THE TWO OPTIONS WE CAN DO IS EITHER AND WHICHEVER YOU PREFER, I CAN DO A NEW B TWO, WHICH WILL BE LIKE THE EASEMENT OWNER AND WE CAN HAVE THAT SEPARATE OUT, UH, DIFFERENT OR IN, I I CAN, YOU KNOW, TITLE IT SAYS, RIGHT AND GRANTED EASEMENT OVER THE PROPERTY, BUT I CAN PUT AP WIRELESS AND THEN ENTITLED
FOR THE, FOR THE THE WIRELESS FACILITY.
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CLARIFICATION AT LEAST OTHER THAN IN ITS OWN NAME, WIRELESS INVESTMENTS, WHAT IT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.
WE CAN CLARIFY THAT IN THE COVER LETTER.
WE GET TO ANOTHER PROBLEM IN THIS 78 PAGE 78 AND AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE, OKAY.
IT IDENTIFIES IN THE LEASE IS CURRENTLY THE TENANT AND WHEN WE LOOK AT B IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE THE OWNER, OPER OPERATOR, LESSER.
SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD ADD, I KNOW LESSER WOULD INDICATE, BUT THEY, BUT THEY LEASE TWO, THEIR AGREEMENT IS WITH WIRE WITH WIRELESS INVESTMENTS CROWN.
AND THEN CROWN GOES AND LEASES TO T-MOBILE.
SO IN THIS INSTANCE THEY ARE THE LESSER TO T-MOBILE OR VERIZON OR WHOEVER'S ON THE POLE.
BUT IN THE OTHER INSTANCE THEY'RE THE TENANT.
SO WE CAN HAVE THAT ADDED IN THERE AS WELL FOR B.
SO THAT RIGHT NOW IT SAYS THEIR OWNER OPERATOR LESSER OF THE POLE AND TENANT TO PROPERTY OWNER.
WE CAN PUT THAT OR JUST CLARIFY IN THAT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LESSE BASICALLY.
AND YOU CAN EVEN USE THE PROPERTY OWNER COLLINA AS THE YEAH.
LESSI TO THE NO, NO, TO WIRELESS.
SO THAT'S HOW COME IT GETS LIKE, YEAH, IT'S RUSSIAN DOLL AND THEN YEAH, THAT'S VERY IT.
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OKAY.AND THEN I HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE ON THIS ONE, AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS AT THIS POINT, BUT I REMEMBER WE HAD SOMETHING IN THE, IN WHAT IT CONSTITUTES AN E-F-S-E-F-R-E-F-R VERSUS A NEW SITE IS HOW MUCH OF A CHANGE YOU'RE MAKING.
AND WHEN I WAS READING THIS AND I REALIZED THAT WHEN DISH CAME IN, THEY EXPANDED IT BY 55.2 SQUARE FOOT, A SQUARE FOOT PARCEL, WHICH CONSISTS OF A 55.2 SQUARE FOOT PARCEL.
I WAS, I WAS WONDERING DID WE MISS THAT AND WOULD THAT HAVE CONSTITUTED A, A DEGREE OF ENLARGEMENT TO THE, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? IT'S UNDER TWO SECOND ADDITIONAL LEASING.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? NO, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING.
NO EXISTING PREMISES HEREBY EXPAND SIZE TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SPACE, WHICH CONSISTS OF, I'M WONDERING BECAUSE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT, YOU CAN ONLY SOMETHING TO BE THIS KIND OF INSTALLATION OF MAKING CHANGES WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
YOU CAN ONLY MAKE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF CHANGE.
SO THE ONLY QUESTION IS, IS SO THAT IT'S A LEASE AREA, SO THE LEASE AREA CAN EXPAND WELL BEYOND WHAT THE ACTUAL EXPANSION OF THE COMPOUND.
SO, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE LEASE AREA EXPANDED BECAUSE OF THE UTILITIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL.
SO LIKE, I'M NOT SURE AND LIKE, JUST BASED ON THAT, THIS DOESN'T SAY WHETHER THERE, AND I THOUGHT THAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS BASED ON SIZE AND EXCAVATION.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I REMEMBER BEING THINGS THAT OF IMPACT.
IT'S THE AND NOT THE SQUARE FOOT OF WHAT I'M RENTING.
SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS THE, THE RULE IS NOW THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER GO, UH, MORE THAN 30 FEET IN ANY DIRECTION FROM THE EXISTING SKY.
AND THAT INCLUDES DEPLOYMENT AND EXCAVATION.
UM, AND BUT THE, THE EXISTING UTILITIES ARE PART OF THAT.
SO IF THEY RUN THE UTILITIES WHERE THE EXISTING UTILITIES ARE, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S EXCAVATION, THAT'S, THAT'S CONSIDERED FINE.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT TIED TO LEASE AREA.
COULD THEY COULD, THEY COULD HAVE LEASED THE WHOLE BUILDING AND WOULDN'T HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE UNLESS THEY DID SOMETHING WITH IT.
IT'S THE ACTUAL EXCAVATION AND DEVELOPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IF THEY PUT EQUIPMENT CABINETS 35 FEET AWAY, THEN THAT'S MORE THAN A 30 FEET THAN IT EXCEEDS IT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAD AN AFFIDAVIT HERE TOO, BUT WE'RE NOT UP FOR THAT YET.
OWNER OPERATOR, YOU'RE CLARIFYING.
WE'RE GONNA CLARIFY IN THE COVER LETTER WHO THE EASEMENT OWNER IS.
UM, IN IN THE, IN THE UNDER B YEAH, CORRECT.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ALSO CLARIFY UNDER THE SAME B, UM, FOR THE, UH, TOWER OWNER OPERATOR THAT THEY ARE ALSO A LESSEE TO A P WIRELESS.
JUST CLARIFY THEIR PROPERTY OWNER INTEREST.
WHEN WE, WE WILL, WE HAVE THE ISSUE WITH THE AFFIDAVIT.
WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO F SO THAT'S COMPLETE.
THE AS WRITTEN HERE IS CORRECT, BUT IT THEN BECOMES WRONG ON DIFFERENT PLACES.
IT'S CORRECT FOR C AS IT'S WRITTEN HERE, BUT IT'S NOT CORRECT IN DIFFERENT PARTS WHERE THEY HAVE PARTS STILL INSTEAD OF SCARSDALE.
BUT YOU HAVE C MARKED AS COMPLETE FROM IT.
UM, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT IS AN ADDRESS ISSUE FOR ME.
I'VE GOTTA OPEN THE OTHER ONE UP HERE.
C IS CON, I'M SORRY, THIS ONE, DID YOU GO THROUGH YOUR TIMELINE AT THE BEGINNING? I MISSED IT.
WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED, YES.
IT WAS FIRST SUBMITTED ON THE 3RD OF NOVEMBER, 2025, THEN REVIEWED ON THE 10TH OF NOVEMBER, 20, 25, 7 DAYS.
AND THEN IT WAS SUBMITTED AGAIN ON THE 28TH OF, OF FEBRUARY OF JANUARY, 2026.
AND REVIEW TODAY TO, ON THE 5TH OF FEBRUARY,
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20 26, 8 DAYS.NO, I'M READING OTHER PARTS I COMPELLING APPLICATION.
SO WE GOT TO, WHAT WE GOT TO IS WE GOT THROUGH, UM, D WE GOT THROUGH E AS COMPLETE AND THEN WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT F AND WE STILL HAVE QUESTION.
UM, IF WE GO TO THE AFFIDAVIT, LET'S, SO EXHIBIT E, PAGE 77.
UM, AND IT MAKES THIS PERSON THE OWNER OF THE EXISTING TOWER.
SO IT'S, WE NEED THE AFFIDAVIT CORRECTED.
AND DO WE HAVE HERE A SECOND THAT SAYS, IS THIS, SO THIS IS CROWN GIVING PERMISSION TO VERIZON WHEN WE GET IT CORRECTED.
AND THIS IS THE EXPLANATION OF THE EASEMENT AND ANY KIND OF AUTHORITY FROM AP WIRELESS TO CROWN.
BUT DO WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM
DO WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM LINA PROPERTIES TO A YEAH, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE, WHERE A P WIRELESS SITS, THAT THEY'RE THE PERSON THAT WOULD HAVE TO GIVE IT.
SO LIKE COLLEENA PROPERTIES, THEY DON'T GIVE IT.
THEY SOLD THEIR EASEMENT RIGHTS.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NO.
SO AP WIRELESS OWNS THAT AUTHORITY AND THEN THAT'S THE POINT OF, OF GIVING THE AGREEMENT.
SO WHAT WE NEED IS THE AFFIDAVIT CORRECTED.
I AM JUST WRITING THE AFFIDAVIT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
I'M NOT WRITING HOW SURE I HAVE IT.
OKAY, SO THEN WE'RE UP TO G AND I HAVE MORE 11 BY SEVENTEENS.
YOU WANT TO IMPOSE
AND YOU SAID WHERE? AND THEN ON NOW ON C3.
NOW WE HA WE SHOW WHERE THE RELOCATED ANTENNAS ARE HARD.
AND I HAVE, ARE YOU MAKING OR REMOVING ANY CABLES? IT'S LIKE MY NEW QUESTION.
SO, SO MUCH HAS BEEN HIDDEN ON THAT'S, YES.
IT'S UM, NOT REMOVING, BUT ON THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION ON SHEET T ONE, IT DOES SAY INSTALL THREE BY SIX.
UH, THREE THREE BY SIX HYBRID CABLES.
AND THAT'S ALSO ON SHEET C TWO TWO.
UH, IT SAYS NOTHING'S BEING REMOVED.
IT DOESN'T SAY NOTHING'S BEING REMOVED.
IT DOESN'T SAY IT DOESN'T HAVE REMOVE.
WE, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONFIRMED SINCE WE'RE GOING BACK AND CONFIRMING OTHER THINGS.
BUT, UH, IT DOES SAY IN THE TOWER, SCOPE OF WORK, UH, REMOVED THREE ANTENNAS.
SO THEY DID, THEY DID INCLUDE THE STUFF THAT THEY ARE REMOVING.
SO THE ABSENCE OF IT IS EVIDENCE THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU'LL GET BETTER AT THIS THE OLDER HE GETS
AND THEN ON C TWO THOUGH, ALSO WE DO SHOW WHERE THE CABLES ARE GOING IN, IN THE FEED LINES.
AND IS THERE ADDITIONAL EXCAVATION IN THE, IN THE LETTER, IN THE DESCRIPTION
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OF NECESSARY WORK, THERE IS NO EXCAVATION PROPOSED.SO AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED, CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE NOT MOVING OR REMOVING ANY CABLES.
AND, AND JUST AS KIND OF SUPPORT FOR THAT, IF YOU GO TO SHEET C TWO.
UM, ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING, AND THEY DO HAVE THE EXISTING FEED LINES TO REMAIN.
AND IT SAYS THE THREE SIX BY 12 HYBRID CABLES, THEN ON THE RIGHT IT SHOWS THEM AS EXISTING AS WELL.
SO THAT IS CONFIRMED ON THE PLANS AS BEING REMAINING.
IT'S JUST, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.
I JUST WANT YOU TO, IT'S, IT'S ON THE PLANS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY NOTES TO ADD, BUT I WILL, I'LL MAKE THE, THE VERBAL REQUEST.
OKAY, SO THEN WE HAD MUCH PAPERS.
WHAT WE HAVE, UM, AND FRANCIS, CAN YOU PLEASE LOOK AT, AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS IT NEEDS TO BE FOR THE STRUCTURE.
AND THIS IS A QUESTION OF HOW IT'S WRITTEN.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S IN PARENTHESES.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE, MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND, AND SO IN SPEAKING WITH MIKE, THIS IS WHAT HE GOT FROM THE TOWN THAT THEY SAID THAT THIS IS THE ORIGINAL CO OR SOMETHING? OR THIS IS THE MOST RECENT.
YES, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT THEY HAD WHEN HE SAID FOR LIKE STRUCTURE.
SO WAS THAT MONOPOLE ORIGINALLY? IT WAS PUT UP IN, IT WAS THE SECOND MONOPOLE.
THAT WAS ONE WHERE THEY, YEAH, IT PROBABLY WAS BELT LANDING AND I WANTED TO GOOGLE HIM TODAY.
I WANTED TO SEE IF HE'S STILL AROUND.
UM, YOU KNOW THE STORY OF THIS CALL, SOME OF IT, I DON'T KNOW THE ENTIRE MIX STORY.
YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW IT NOW.
UM, THE, UH, IT'S JUST A QUESTION.
IT WAS ABOUT THAT IT WAS IN 98 OR SOMETHING.
SO THIS IS POSSIBLE WHEN IT WAS ISSUED? YEAH.
UM, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS WEIRD THAT FROM LANGUAGE WEAPONS, AND AGAIN I'M SIGNED IT, BUT GO ON.
OH, BUT SINCE IT'S DATED 2000, IT WAS PROBABLY EXISTING THAT ATLANTIC
SO IT'S RELATED TO, I BELIEVE THE PERMIT FROM THE 98 APPROVALS.
I DIDN'T CHARGE FOR THE POST OFFICE BOX.
UH, WE CAME UP TO RECONCILE THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE AND HE DID.
SO THAT'S J IS COMPLETE, K IS COMPLETE, L IS COMPLETE, M IS COMPLETE.
AND WHEN WE GET TO N AND IT SENDS US TO EXHIBIT B 50, I, I SO APPRECIATE HOW MUCH EASIER IT IS TO FIND THINGS WITH THESE TABS AND PICTURE.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO BITE EIGHT STAMPS.
AND SO ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE REPORT, THE ADDRESS IS INCORRECT.
YEAH, BECAUSE THIS IS SCARSDALE RIGHT HERE AND IT'S THROUGHOUT THE, ON THE TOP.
IT'S THROUGHOUT, WELL THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE SITE NAME FOR THIS
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INTERCHANGEABLY BETWEEN BRONX RIVER, WHICH I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THEY COME UP WITH THE RISE AND SITE NAME AND THE BRONX RIVER.AND YOU WOULD THINK THAT, BUT ALSO ON THE FRONT PAGE IT HAS CROWN CASTLE SITE NAME NEW YORK HEART RIVER
IT'S JUST, AGAIN, THE VERIZON SITE NAMES ARE A LITTLE CONFUSING.
'CAUSE I'VE HAD PLENTY OF SITES WHERE IT'S LIKE, IT WOULD SAY LIKE MOUNT VERNON FOUR AND IT WAS IN LIKE NEW SHELL AND IT WAS LIKE, IT MAKES NO SENSE.
IT'S BECAUSE THE SEARCH RING STARTED SOMEWHERE AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY FOUND A PROPERTY THAT WE COULD WORK, IT LIKE GETS OVER TO THERE.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS, THE CENTER LINE IS IDENTIFIED AS 88.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE COLLECTED.
UM, AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
YOU BECOME THE ANSWER PERSON FOR EVERYBODY TODAY.
SO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE DRAGON WAVE IS THAT'S SAID UNKNOWN HERE.
BUT IT THE NOKIA WHAT? OH, THE UNKNOWN, THE DRAGON WAVE ON THE NOKIA.
IT HAS, UM, ON AT T IT HAS NOKIA.
UM, BECAUSE IT SAYS ANTENNA RADIATION CENTER LINE, I ASSUME IT'S AN ANTENNA.
NOKIA AT AND T I'M LOOKING AT THIS.
NO, BUT I'M JUST MATCHING UP WHERE 90 ON THE PLANS IT, IT APPEARS TO MATCH UP WITH THE T-MOBILE MICROWAVE DISH.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THE T-MOBILE HAS ON ON PAGE C TWO, IT HAS THE T-MOBILE CENTER LINE AT 88.
AND THEN ABOVE THAT IT SAYS T-MOBILE MICROWAVE DISH AT 90.
AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THAT WAS THAT.
SEE ONE OF THEM IF THEY, IF THAT, THAT MIGHT BE THE DRAGON WAVE, BUT OH YEAH, HERE IT SAYS DRAGON WAVE.
YEAH, BUT IT SAYS UNKNOWN FOR THE OWNER.
I'M JUST, WE, I CAN ASK THE QUESTION.
AND THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THIS NOKIA ANTENNA AT 71, RIGHT? YEP.
DO YOU SEE THAT ON HERE? I SEE NOKIA ACTUALLY ON THE TOP WITH VERIZON ON THE LEFT OF PAGE C TWO.
AND THOSE ARE CALLED, NOT NOKIA, BUT SAMSUNG ON THE LIST HERE.
YEAH, NO, THOSE ARE EXISTING NOKIA, UH, ANTENNAS AND RADIO EQUIPMENT THAT ARE BEING REMOVED AS PART OF VERIZON.
BUT YOUR QUESTION IS MORE THAT THERE IS A NOTE ON HERE THAT THERE IS A 71 FOOT CENTER LINE, UH, ANTENNA AT NOKIA AND AND THERE'S TWO OF THEM.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THERE'S NO 71.
OH, YOU'RE TAKING THESE NUMBERS.
SO I SEE ON, ON THE ANTENNA RADIATION CENTER LINE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE ANTENNA NUMBER, NUMBER 1371, NUMBER 17 IS 71.
THEY'RE ALL THREE NOKIA ANTENNAS.
AND THE QUESTION IS, IS YOU KNOW, THE PLAN SHOWS 75 AND WHEN I GO TO THE DRAWINGS, YEAH.
IF I LOOK AT UNDER VERIZON, IT HAS VERIZON WIRELESS ACROSS NUMBER NINE SAYS SAMSUNG.
BUT WHEN I GO TO THE DRAWING, I DON'T SEE SAMSUNG.
THAT'S THE EXISTING THAT SAYS TO BE REMOVED.
OKAY, I GOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT'S WHERE YOU, YOU GOT YOUR SAMSUNG AND YOUR COMSCOPE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPOSED ANTENNA.
AND THEN THAT'S WHAT THE R-F-E-M-E IS BASED ON.
BUT YOUR QU YOUR COMMENT AND YOUR QUESTION REGARDING AT AND T RIGHT.
HAS THREE ANTENNAS LISTED AT 71 AND THE PLAN JUST SHOW AT 75.
AND THEY, BUT THEY HAVE THE THREE OF 75 ABOVE THAT.
YEAH, NO, WE'RE ON THE SAME POINT.
YOUR COMMENT WAS WHAT? WHERE'S THE 71,
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UH, CENTER LINE OF TENNIS? SO, OKAY.THEY CAN BE A DIFFERENT, WELL HAVE THEY LISTED MORE THAN ONCE.
OH, THEY'RE ALL THESE ANTENNAS.
SO FOR EACH CARRIER THEY PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT LIKE EIGHT OR NINE AND TENS.
SO WE, I'M GOING TO WRITE HERE NOKIA, WHAT, WHAT SHOULD I WRITE ON THE OR SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW SO THAT I WROTE CORRECT ADDRESS.
I WROTE, UM, UH, UH, CONFLICTING, UH, CENTER LINES ON PLANS FOR T-MOBILE 88 ON PLANS 86 ON R-F-E-M-E FOR AT AND T, UH, THREE.
THAT'S FOR T-MOBILE, THE CONFLICT, THE DIFFERENT LINES, YEAH.
AND IT'S SAME, UH, ALSO ISSUE FOR AT AND T.
THERE'S THREE ANTENNA IS SHOWN AT 71.
OH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MY HANDWRITING.
SO, SO IT, IT'LL EITHER BE AN UPDATE TO THE RFE MEETING OR, OR AN UPDATE TO THE PLANS, WHICHEVER NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
AND THREE WAS COMPLETE, AND O WAS COMPLETE.
AND WE GET TO THE NOISE, AND THIS IS RIGHT, FRANCIS LOVED WHAT YOU PRESENTED AND LOVES LESS WHAT WE GET YOU, WHICH SAYS IT IS OUR DETERMINATION THAT THE CHANGES IN EQUIPMENT IN THE TOWER, ON THE TOWER WILL NOT GENERATE ANY ADDITIONAL NOISE.
WE DIRECT TO PAGE 76 AND WHAT WE SAID LAST TIME, WHICH IS STILL TO MY EYE AT LEAST THE ISSUE, THERE'S NO REPORT.
UM, WE WROTE PROFILE MEETING AND THERE'S STILL NO PROFILE.
AND THE PROFILE SHOULD YOU, YOU CAN SHARE THE PROFILE.
THAT WAS SO GREAT BECAUSE IT WAS DONE AT THE SITE AND IT WASN'T, THIS SIMPLY SAYS, WHERE'S THE LANGUAGE? IT IS OUR DETERMINATION, NOISE EVALUATION IS OUR DETERMINATION THAT THE CHANGES IN EQUIPMENT.
HOW DID THEY COME TO THE DETERMINATION FOR US? WE WANT TO SEE HOW THAT WAS DERIVED AT.
MAYBE I'M MISSING IT, MAYBE IT'S HERE, BUT I'M NOT SEEING IT.
FRANCIS, ARE YOU SEEING IT? IT'S UH, IT'S NOT LIKE THE LAST ONE.
THERE, THERE, UM, THE REASONING IN THIS ONE IS BECAUSE OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO GROUND EQUIPMENT, UH, DOING ANY WORK AND USUALLY THE GROUND EQUIPMENT OR THE THINGS THAT'LL HAVE LIKE EXHAUST FANS OR GENERATORS OR THINGS THAT PRODUCE NOISE.
SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE IS THAT THE EQUIPMENT ON THE TOWER IS PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED TO BE LESS THAN 3D, BA AND BECAUSE THAT'S SO MINUTE.
AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY THAT BASICALLY WITH 3D BA AND THERE'S NOTHING BEING CHANGED.
AND THAT THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY LOAN LINE IS 145 FEET AWAY FROM THE TOWER, ALL OF THAT IS A POLICY.
ALL OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS A PROFILE.
NO, I, I'M JUST EXPLAINING WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE NOISE EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT USUALLY GETS STUDIED AND THAT THIS IS BEING ANTENNAS THAT ARE LESS THAN THREE DBA, THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING TO STUDY AT THAT LOW AMOUNT.
UM, SO THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT WITH THE EQUIPMENT BEING PROPOSED, UH, NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING OF NOISE PRODUCING EQUIPMENT AND PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED TO BE BELOW 3D BA, THAT THE NEW EQUIPMENT WON'T INCREASE BEYOND THE NOISE LIMITATION.
AND THEN THEY'VE SIGNED IT AND SEALED
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IT WITH A P.SO THEY, THEY HAVE IT TESTED TO THEIR LICENSE THAT THIS INFORMATION'S ACCURATE.
SO WHEN DID THEY DO THE MEASUREMENT ON SITE? I, THERE'S, THEY DID NOT DO A MEASUREMENT ON SITE.
SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS BASED ON THE PROPERTY, THEY DUNNO WHAT THE AMBIENT NOISE THAT IS.
WELL, BUT THE, AGAIN, I THINK THE WAY THAT THE, THE CHAPTER THREE 80 IS WRITTEN IS ONE HAS TO BE A COMPLAINING PROPERTY OWNER FIRST TO TRIGGER IT.
AND THEN SECOND IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE MEASUREMENT OF THE AMBIENT NOISE.
IT'S A MEASUREMENT OF THE NOISE FROM THE FACILITY.
'CAUSE THE AMBIENT NOISE, I MEAN IT COULD BE FOR SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED NEAR A HIGHWAY, YOUR AMBIENT NOISE COULD BE WELL IN EXCESS OF 65 JUST BECAUSE THE SAW MILL RIVER PARKWAY OR 2 87 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT CREATES AN AMBIENT NOISE SITUATION.
IT HAS TO BE THE NOISE PRODUCED FROM THE FACILITY.
AND I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IN THIS UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE'RE NOT INCLUDING ANYTHING ON THE GROUND THAT WOULD BE NOISE PRODUCING, UM, THAT THEREFORE THEY'RE CERTIFYING AS COMPLIANCE.
I DON'T YOU READ THIS AS PROVIDED THAT THE SOUND DOES NOT EXCEED 65 DBA MEANS THE EQUIPMENT.
I THINK THAT AS BEING THE EVERYTHING TAKEN TOGETHER, IT CAN'T BECAUSE IF THEN FROM MY, YOU KNOW, CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I JUST, OR SITUATION I JUST LISTED, LET'S SAY THAT THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL IS 70, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ATTRIBUTED FROM THE SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY.
I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER BE LIABLE FOR NOISE THAT'S PRODUCED FROM THE HIGHWAY.
IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN A PROPERTY OWNER'S CONTROL.
'CAUSE IT'S A NOISE CODE THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE BROUGHT INTO A CODE VIOLATION SITUATION.
SO YOU HAVE TO DO KIND OF LOOK AT ENFORCEMENT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF HIGHWAYS THAT HAVE GUN TO 65.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE, THERE ARE, I'M JUST SAYING THAT READ INTO THE LAW, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER PRODUCING THE NOISE.
SO IT CAN'T BE RELIABLE FOR EXISTING AMBIENT NOISE.
SO YOU READ THIS AS THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU ARE INSTALLING, UH, CAN'T EXCEED 65 DBA AND THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE OTHER NOISE.
THERE COULD BE 64 DBA NEXT TO IT, BUT YOUR EQUIPMENT HAD TO BE 65.
MY MY THING IS WHAT IT, WHATEVER THE SOUNDS GENERATED ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO THE NOISE THAT WE GENERATE, THE NOISE THAT WE MAKE HAS TO BE BELOW 65.
THE TOTAL, UH, THE TOTAL OF THE NOISE GENERATED ON THAT PROPERTY.
THE NOISE GENERATED FROM THE PROPERTY WHERE AMBIENT NOISE IS STUDYING WHAT IS EXISTING NOISE LEVELS.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVEN'T MEASURED IT LIKE THEY DID IN THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AMBIENT NOISE IS FROM THAT PROPERTY.
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT THE, THE PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED TO BE LESS THAN 3D BA.
WHEN WAS THAT? THAT'S THE, THE NEXT PARAGRAPH.
SO WHAT THEY DO IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IS THEY STATE THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, RIGHT? SO THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY THAT THERE'S NO COOLED NATURAL CONVECTION, SO NO COOLING UNITS, NOTHING THAT WOULD BE CREATING NOISE.
THEN THEY QUOTE THE, THE CHAPTER THREE 80, WHICH TALKS ABOUT, UM, AGAIN, THAT IT HAS TO BE, UM, FROM THE ADJACENT COMPLAINING PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, SO BECAUSE HERE THERE'S NO COMPLAINING PROPERTY OWNER, I THINK IT WAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED THAT, YOU KNOW, THREE 80 REALLY DOESN'T KICK IN UNTIL THERE'S SOMEONE'S COMPLAINING.
BUT ALSO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE IN THE FINAL PARAGRAPH IS THAT THE PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED TO BE LESS THAN 3D BA FROM THE TOWER.
SO BY ORDINANCE, THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, UH, ABOVE 65.
YEAH, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY WE COULD NEVER INSTALL ANYTHING ON A PRICE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE WOULD BE NEVER A WAY TO STOP SOMETHING FROM GOING ONTO A PROPERTY THAT'S OVER 65 BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T COMPLAINING BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE YET.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THAT THERE HAD TO BEEN A COMPLAINT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO, TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL, BUT IT WON'T BE A COMPLAINT UNTIL THE ACTUAL NOISE PRODUCING EQUIPMENT, UH, IS PUT THERE.
YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NO NOISE BEING ADDED.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S 3D BA BEING ADDED? NO, NO.
THEN WE'RE NOT SAYING THREE DBA IS BEING ADDED.
SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT THE, UH, SO IT'S, IT'S TWO THINGS.
ONE, IT'S, IT'S THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS DRAFTED.
SO THE CODE DRAFTED, AGAIN, I GET YOUR POINT BEFORE YOU BUILD SOMETHING, NO ONE'S MAKING A COMPLAINT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU ONLY MEASURE THAT 65 DBA FROM THE PERSON COMPLAINING.
SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO MEASURE THE DBA LEVEL AT UNTIL YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT.
IT'S, IT IS KIND OF A CHICKEN AND EGG THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS DRAFTED.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE STATING HERE IS THAT THE, THE WHAT'S CURRENTLY INSTALLED ON THE TOWER WAS PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED TO BE LESS THAN THREE DBA.
AND SO THEN WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IN THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH, NONE OF THAT STUFF IS NOISE
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PRODUCING.SO THEREFORE, WITH THAT HUGE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT'S EXISTING AND WHAT THE CODE LIMIT, UH, IS SET AT, I'M, THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING THERE'S NO WAY THAT THIS IS GONNA EXCEED BASED ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ON THE TOWER, THIS IS SAYING ON THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? WELL, THE REASON WE'RE SAYING ON THE TOWER IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE GROUND EQUIPMENT WOULDN'T, THE EASIEST THING IS TO DO LIKE YOU DID IN THE OTHER APPLICATION, TO HAVE SOMEBODY GO OUT THERE WITH A METER AND JUST SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE EXISTING IS THERE.
BUT IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND SAY WHAT THE EXISTING IS, AND THIS IS WHY I KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT, IS THAT THE EXISTING NOISE, YOU DON'T KNOW THE SOURCE FROM IT.
AND THE, AND THE POINT THAT IS BEING REGULATED BY THE CODE IS WHERE THE NOISE IS GENERATED FROM.
LIKE IF I GO OUT THERE AND THERE'S BIRDS CHIRPING ABOVE 65 DBA, WHICH AGAIN, THE BIRDS DON'T, BUT YOU CAN'T BE
WELL, 60 60 SOMETHING DBAI THINK IS A CONVERSATIONAL LEVEL.
SO YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING ABOVE THAT.
BUT MY POINT IS, IS THAT THERE'S A FARM THERE, THE FARM'S NOT GONNA BE GENERATING, IF YOU'RE SAID IF YOU'RE GETTING NOISE, YOU'RE GONNA BE GETTING IT FROM THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW THAT PROPERTY WITH THIS 3 1 3 CENTRAL NEXT TO CENTRAL PARK.
THE, THE HARTSDALE FIRE DISTRICT, IT WOULD BE THE FIRE ALARMS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE LOUDER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'RE STATED AS IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THAT DOESN'T CREATE NOISE AND BECAUSE THE EXISTING WAS LESS THAN 3D BA, UM, AND THE PROPERTY LINE'S 145 FEET AWAY.
JUDGE, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD TO GO BACK AND SAY, ON THE LAST REPORT WE GOT IT WAS X WE DID OUR RESEARCH, IT WAS X WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE HIGHER.
INSTEAD THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SAYING, WE DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA MATTER.
NO, I I THINK THE FIRST, I'M SORRY THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF ON THAT TOWER NOW THOUGH.
BUT THE, THE FIRST, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THEY'RE FARTHER OUT THAN MAYBE EVEN OUR CODE ALLOWS.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS AND IT SITS RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE AND IT SITS AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
I REALLY THINK WE'VE, I'M, WE'VE NEVER TAKEN THIS TYPE OF AN APPROACH TO THIS.
I THINK THE SIMPLEST THING IS JUST SOMEBODY GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A MEASUREMENT, SAY IT'S LIKE YOU DID IN THE OTHER ONE, SAY IT'S UNDER WHATEVER, AND EVEN ADDING 3% TO IT, IT'S UNDER 65 AND BE DONE WITH IT.
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE ONE THING WRITTEN THERE IS WE NEED THE PROFILE THAT'S IN THE QUESTION.
WE DIDN'T SAY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? WE DIDN'T ASK THE APPLICANT WHETHER THEY WANT TO COMPLY.
I, I GET THE COMMENT, BUT WHAT IS A PROFILE? WELL GO BACK.
THE NOSE PROFILE IS A STUDY AND, AND THEY ARE STUDYING THIS.
IT IS A DESKTOP STUDY, BUT THEY HAVE, I MEAN I GET THE COMMENTS.
I'M AGAIN, I'M, WE CONSIDERED THIS ALL DAY LONG.
THIS IS ONE THING WRITTEN HERE, WHICH HE INITIALED.
I HE, HIS STATEMENT TO ME IS THAT THIS LETTER, WHICH WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED AT ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY LETTER AT ALL PREVIOUSLY.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THERE WAS NO LETTER PREVIOUSLY SUPPLIED AT ALL.
IT WAS JUST A NOTE ON THE PLANS.
THEY HAVE SINCE PROVIDED THE LETTER.
THE LETTER IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY COME TO AND IT DOES.
AND I USE THE NOISE PROFILE OF THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT AS YOU CAN SHARE WITH HIM OFF THE RECORD, WHAT ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, ANOTHER COMPANY PROVIDED, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MARK THIS, IT WAS AS NOTHING COMPLETE.
CORRECT, FRANCIS? YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH, UM, WE HAD A PREVIOUS APPLICANT WHO ACTUALLY DID A NOISE STUDY ON THEIR SITE AT THE FACTORY IN NEW JERSEY.
IN NEW JERSEY, UM, AND TALKED ABOUT EXISTING CO UH, CONDITIONS ON THAT SITE.
UM, BUT MIND YOU, THE SITE THAT THEY WERE PUTTING UP WAS IN GREENBERG ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
AND THEN PROCEEDED WENT TO SAY THAT ALL SITES ARE THE SAME.
AND I SUGGESTED THAT MAYBE JOHN F. KENT, THE KENNEDY AIRPORT WAS NOT THE SAME.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT.
BUT WE, WE, WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
I MEAN I, THEIR STATEMENT THEY'RE MAKING, AND I UNDERSTAND THE POINTS, BUT THEIR STATEMENT THEY'RE MAKING IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS BEING ADDED TO THE FACILITY THAT WOULD INCREASE THE NOISE.
AND BECAUSE THE PRIOR STUDIES WERE SO LOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING THE STATEMENT THAT THIS WILL THEN BE COMPLIANT.
AND THE SHOWING IS, IS THAT WE'D BE COMPLIANT.
I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS IS LIKELY BASED ON THIS INFORMATION TO BE COMPLIANT.
YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT THE ADDITIONAL STUDY TODAY.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL TIMES WHEN YOU'VE SAID TO ME, SAID TO US,
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I IMAGINE I EXPECT I, WHATEVER.AND I'VE SAID WE CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT IS REQUIRED AND TO CHECK IT OFF AND WE REQUIRE THE SAME THING OF EVERYONE AND WHAT IS TO STOP THE NEXT APPLICANT FROM COMING IN AND SAYING WE'RE REALLY NOT DOING MUCH.
AND WE'VE HAD ACTUALLY WITH MIKE ABOUT A GENERATOR AT ROSEMONT WHERE HE AND FRANCIS HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE GENERATOR.
THOSE TWO ARE ON VIDEO TAPE AND CAN GO BACKWARDS.
I LOOK SO MUCH YOUNGER THAN, UM, BUT I ONLY HAVE ANOTHER 20 MINUTES.
I GET THE COMMENT, THE COMMENT'S ACCEPTED.
WE, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND WE NEED TO REQUIRE WHAT IS RE WE HAVE VERY LIMITED JURISDICTION IN WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WE STICK TO THE LETTER OF WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE AND WHAT WE HAVE REQUIRED OF OTHER PEOPLE.
IF THEY, IF THEY DID CALCULATIONS RATHER THAN AN AMBIENT NOISE STUDY, WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE WHERE I'VE HAD AN ENGINEER WILL DO THE CALCULATIONS.
UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT IS THE WAY TO GET IT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THE THE AMBIENT NOISE STUDY IS, IS IS JUST THEM TAKING A MICROPHONE AND GOING OUT TO A POINT AND SAYING WHAT'S EXISTING THERE.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CAUSE OF THE NOISE IS.
I WOULD THINK THE MORE ACCURATE IS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DO A CALCULATION HAVE, IT WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON THE SITE.
BUT I'VE HAD THAT ACCEPTED BY THIS BOARD BEFORE WHERE AN ENGINEER WILL CALCULATE THE EQUIPMENT AND SAY ALL THIS EQUIPMENT PLUS THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT EQUALS SUCH DBA AND THEN THEREFORE THAT'S BELOW 65.
I JUST THINK IT'S SO FAR, IT'S FAR BACK FROM CENTRAL AVENUE RIGHT TO THE VERY BACK.
IT'S ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF A RED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE.
I JUST THINK WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT MAYBE FOR THE FUTURE, BUT I THINK FOR THIS ONE IT JUST MAKES SO MUCH SENSE TO JUST TAKE A MEASUREMENT.
THE PROPERTY, THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS RIGHT THERE.
UM, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT WHERE IF I TAKE A NOISE MEASUREMENT, I CAN'T ATTRIBUTE THE CAUSE OF THE NOISE.
SO EVEN IF I TOOK A NOISE MEASUREMENT, AGAIN, THE CODE IS THE GENERATION OF, OF THE NOISE.
AND IF THE NOISE IS BEING GENERATED BY A GENERATOR FROM ONE OF THOSE PRIVATE HOMES, BY ONE OF THEIR HVAC UNITS, BY ONE OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT'S MY POINT IS, IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF NOISE AND IT'S REALLY WITH A MICROPHONE IMPOSSIBLE DETER DETERMINED WHO'S GENERATING WHICH NOISE.
BUT IF IT COMES OUT UNDER 65, YOU'RE DONE, THEN WE'RE GOOD.
AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN YOU COULD DO YOUR CALCULATION TO SAY, AND IT'S NOT US.
NOW WE HAVE Q AND I WENT, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
AND WE WROTE DATE MONTH, YEAR ON THE COMMENT TO HIM AND WE GOT TWO DAYS, THREE DAYS.
SO I'M GONNA WRITE THE SAME PIECE, SAME COMMENTS.
SO WITH THE FENCE, OKAY, SO WE WROTE DESCRIPTION OF FENCES REQUIRED AND THE EXISTING FACILITIES CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS INCLUDE THE ANTENNA COLOR AND FENCING WITH GREEN PRIVACY, UM, SLATS AT THE PROPERTY, THE COLOR OF THE PROPOSED ANTENNAS WILL MATCH THE COLOR OF THE EXISTING ANTENNAS, UM, THAT ARE WHITE AS YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF WHITE, UM, AND THEN IT SAYS MORE OF THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE COMPOUND WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
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WHAT WE WROTE THEN WAS DESCRIPTION OF THE FENCE IS REQUIRED.SO WHAT DID, AND WE HAD THE SAME ANSWER.
MAYBE I DO HAVE, I DON'T HAVE THIS.
I THE SAME, I WENT AND I LOOKED AND THE FENCE WAS A DISASTER.
THAT'S HOW THIS STARTED DOWN THIS PATH.
SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN IT'S GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME.
WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S WAS IT'S WHEN IT WAS INSTALLED.
IT DOESN'T TELL US WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO WE'VE GOT THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE FENCE AND THE WHITE.
SO I THINK WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THOUGH IS, IS LIKE THEIR VERIZON'S THE APPLICANT AND SO THEY, THEY'RE INSTALLING STUFF THAT'S NOT TOUCHING THE FENCE.
SO I THINK THAT'S THEIR, THEIR POINT OF LIKE THE FENCE WILL REMAIN THE SAME IS THAT THEIR APPLICANT DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY CHANGES TO THE FENCE.
THERE'S NO EXPANSION OF THE COMPOUND.
THERE'S NOTHING IF THE FENCE IS, IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
THAT'S, THAT'S I THINK SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, I CAN MENTION IT ABSOLUTELY TO CROWN CASTLE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CROWN CASTLE WOULD'VE TO BRING INTO CLIENTS.
AND WE WENT THROUGH A LOT WITH THAT ALREADY BECAUSE CROWN CASTLE WAS WAY OUT OF COMPLIANCE ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS WHEN I WENT AND PHOTOGRAPHED IT AND GAVE IT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ANSWER.
AND WHEN YOU SAY IF THE EXISTING FACILITY UTILIZES CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS, DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WILL BE DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXISTING CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS, KATHERINE DON'T PUT YOUR HANDS IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE PROPOSED INSTALLATION WILL NOT DEFEAT SAID CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS.
AND THE ANSWER IS THE EXISTING CONCEALMENT CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS INCLUDE THE ANTENNA COLOR AND FENCING WITH, UH, GREEN PRIVATE SLATS AT THE PROPERTY.
THE COLOR OF THE PROPOSED ANTENNA WILL MATCH THE COLOR OF THE EXISTING ANTENNA THAT ARE WHITE.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF WHITE AND MOREOVER THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE COMPONENT, UH, COMPOUND WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
WHAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM OTHER APPLICANTS ABOUT THIS IS ACTUALLY DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH AND, AND SAYING, AND EACH OF YOU AT THAT SITE, IT'S ENCLOSED, IT'S NOT INDIVIDUALLY COMPOUNDED.
IT'S A ONE MASSIVE THING, BUT THE, THE CHAIN LINK FENCES HAVE NOT BEEN CLOSED PROPERLY AND THEY'RE DIFFERENT ONES TO DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PROVIDERS BEHIND IT.
SO WHEN YOU WRITE THAT, IT'S GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM, CAN CAN WE CLARIFY WHAT YOU WANT US TO SAY? BECAUSE I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY WITH THAT IS THAT AGAIN, T-MOBILE, UM, T-MOBILE, THE VERIZON'S INSTALLING WITHIN THE SHELTER AND THAT THE, THE FENCE IS NOT BEING TOUCHED AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION.
SO HOWEVER YOU WANT ME TO CLARIFY THAT, WE CAN CLARIFY THAT.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD.
SO IS YOUR EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE FENCE? EXACTLY.
THEY HAVE A SHELTER WITHIN IS NOT LOCKED.
THAT MEANS YOUR EQUIPMENT IS EXPOSED? NO, THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE AN EQUIPMENT SHELTER WITHIN, IT HAS, IT HAS A DOCK ON IT.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE FENCE, AND THIS IS CROWNS, IT'S NOT CLOSED.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH, BUT ALSO THE VERIZON HAS LIKE AN EQUIPMENT SHELTER, LIKE A KIND OF A BUILDING THERE THAT HAS A DOOR AND A LOCKED DOOR.
SO ALL VERIZON'S EQUIPMENT'S WITHIN THE SHELTER, THE FENCED COMPOUND THAT HAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR OTHER, YOU KNOW, CARRIERS EQUIPMENT AS WELL AND THE CROWN CASTLES, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT THE TOWER.
UM, YOU KNOW THAT'S CROWN CASTLE'S GATE.
THERE'S TWO ACCESS GATES RIGHT HERE.
BUT, BUT IF YOU HAD YOUR EQUIPMENT SHELTER ALL BY ITSELF, WE'D STILL WANT THE FENCE.
NO, 'CAUSE THIS ONE ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE THE FENCE AROUND IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SHELTERS KIND OF, WE HAVE STAIRS THAT GO RIGHT UP TO IT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LOCKED DOOR.
WE IS WHEN YOU SAY WE THE TOWN, THE TOWN HAS APPROVED THIS.
NO, I'M, I'M YOU JUST USED THE WORD WE THE PRONOUN AND I WAS WONDERING WHO THE WE WAS.
YOU SAID YOU JUST GO THE STAIRS.
UH, SO LIKE SOMEONE THAT WAS TRYING TO ACCESS VERIZON.
VERIZON HAS A RAISED EQUIPMENT SHELTER HERE.
SO FOR VERIZON, WHEN THEY ACCESS THEIR EQUIPMENT SHELTER, THEY GO UP THE STAIRS AND THEN THEY HAVE A LOCKED DOOR TO ACCESS THEIR STUFF.
SO THE FENCE ITSELF, IT'S ON THE PIGGYBACK IS WHAT IT'S EXACTLY.
SO DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE A FENCE.
THEY STILL HAVE A FENCE AROUND THE WHOLE THING.
SO YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE FENCE AREA TECHNICALLY.
'CAUSE THE SHELTER ITSELF, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CONSIDER THE WALL.
I THOUGHT YOUR SHELTERS ALWAYS HAD TO HAVE A FENCE AROUND IT.
I MEAN, AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS EXISTING.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING FENCE THAT'S SHOWN HERE AND IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT COMES INTO WHERE THE SHELTERS MEET AND THEN THE SHELTERS ACTS AS A, LIKE A WALL.
SO THE REASON WHY WE REQUIRE THE FENCE IS AS A SECURITY MEASURE TO KEEP PEOPLE AWAY.
IF THE, IF THE OFFENSE IS IN DISREPAIR, IT MAY NOT BE YOUR CLIENT'S PARTICULAR PROBLEM, BUT IT'S OUR, IT'S
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EVERYONE'S PROBLEM BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT PROVIDING THE INTENDED SECURITY, UH, THERE'S A PROBLEM.YEAH, I HAVE NO DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT.
I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
I THINK THE QUESTION TO ME WAS THERE IS A, A NOTE IN THE LETTER THEY'RE SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONDITION OF DEFENSE BECAUSE THE FENCE BELONGS TO CROWN.
THEY CAN'T, WE CAN'T CHANGE ON ONE SIDE HAVE A, I DON'T HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT, BUT THEY HAVE A, IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE IT.
SO IF YOU CAN CONVINCE THEM TO FIX IT SO PEOPLE CAN'T JUST GO THROUGH WHATEVER OPENING THERE IS OR THE BUILDING INSPECTOR CAN DO IT.
BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, IF IT'S AN UNSAFE CONDITION BUILDING THE INSPECTOR HAS A POINT ABOUT THIS ALREADY, IS THAT WE SHOULD LET THEM KNOW.
IT SHOULD NOT BE, WE SHOULD NOT BE APPROVING APPLICATIONS WHERE A SECURITY FEATURE HAS BEEN COMPROMISED.
YEAH, NO, I I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
I'M, THE SPECIFIC QUESTION TO ME WAS IN R MORE OVER THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE COMPOUND WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
AND I BELIEVE I WAS ASKED WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THAT? AND I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE SAME MAY BE AN UNSAFE CONDITION.
RIGHT? IF IT'S NOT LOCKABLE OR IF IT'S LOCKABLE, BUT YOU COULD SWING IT OPEN.
UM, YEAH, I JUST, UNLESS SOMEBODY YOU WANT TO TAKE PICTURES, BUT AGAIN, AGAIN, MY, MY QUESTION IS WHAT, WHAT THE STATEMENT'S MORE OVER THE FENCE SURROUND THE COMPOUND REMAIN THE SAME AS IN THE STATEMENT AS IN THE, THE PROPOSED APPLICATION DOESN'T MODIFY THE FENCE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK THEIR INTENTION WAS THERE.
IF THE LANGUAGE IS UNCLEAR, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE THE WAY THE INSTALLATION IS.
SEE THIS IS THE FRONT OF IT COURSE IT GONNA END UP WITH MY MOTHER SOON.
BUT SEE, LIKE THAT'S LIKE THIS FENCE RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN THE SHELTER'S HERE AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU CAN, THAT GATE IS, AND THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE.
BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S ALSO YEAH, THEY HAVE TWO GATES.
YEAH, IT'S THE ONE ON THIS SIDE AND ONE ON THIS SIDE.
THIS IS THE BETTER WAY TO THIS.
THEN THE CROWN CASTLE SIGN WAS UNDER THE SNOW.
AND YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THE STAIRS INSIDE THE FENCE OR OUTSIDE THIS FENCE TO GO UP TO YOUR DOOR? WE SHOW THE STAIRS AS BEING OUTSIDE THE FENCE.
SO ISN'T THAT DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF THE NO, 'CAUSE THE, THE STAIRS LEAD UP TO A LOCKED DOOR.
I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SEE THE STAIRS HERE? AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER STAIRS HERE.
THE ACTUAL, THESE, THESE STAIRS COME INSIDE THE FENCE.
THOSE STAIRS ARE INSIDE THE FENCE.
THESE STAIRS ARE OUTSIDE THE FENCE.
THE QUESTION IS THAT SEE THE PURPOSE OF THE FENCE? YEAH, NO.
THERE'S ONE FOR T-MOBILE AND THEN RIGHT.
AND YOURS? I THINK THIS, I THINK VERIZON IS THE TOP ONE.
NO, I THINK T-MOBILE'S THE TOP ONE.
OKAY, WELL THOSE STAIRS I THINK SEE YOU SEE HOW IT GOES UNDERNEATH.
BUT THE OTHER ONES ARE EXTERNAL.
CORRECT? IT IT IS RIGHT HERE IS VERIZON'S.
SEE THEY, THEY HAVE THESE STAIRS COMING OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE HERE.
AND YOU COME INTO THE BOTTOM SHELTER AND THE PROPERTY LINE IS RIGHT HERE.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT ON LIKE BASICALLY THE BACK ONE.
WHEN DID THOSE STAIRS GO IN? SEE, SEE THIS IS THE PROPERTY NOW WHENEVER VERIZON'S INSTALLATION SHOULD BE, THAT'S BACK IN 2000.
LIKE IT WOULD BE, UH, BELL ATLANTIC BELL.
WELL, NO, BELL ATLANTIC IS AT AND T.
SO THIS WOULD'VE BEEN AFTER THAT THOUGHT.
I THOUGHT GREG MEESE WAS GREG MEESE DID VERIZON.
BUT HE ALSO DOES AT T WAS THAT'S WHEN HE, THEY MIGHT HAVE GONE ON AT THE SAME TIME OR RIGHT AFTERWARDS? NO, AT T WAS MUCH LATER.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE HOUSE BEHIND.
NO, I KNOW IT'S, I I KNOW AT THE SITE I, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN THE TOWN.
NO, BUT YOU AND I ARE MAYBE THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE WHO GO AND VISIT IT.
BUT UM, SEE, I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY.
WHAT IS THAT? DID I GIVE IT TO YOU? NO, I HAVE MY PAPER.
I AGAIN, THE, SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT TO WRITE HERE? YEAH.
UM, I WANT KNOW WHAT THE WHITE IS.
WELL THAT ALREADY HAVE THAT THAT NOTE.
AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE SURROUNDING, OKAY, THE EXISTING FACILITY, THIS MAKES THE WHOLE QUESTION MUCH
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MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE IS THE FACILITY THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, ONLY VERIZON'S FACILITY, WHICH IS UPSTAIRS, THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE A FENCE.SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE, BECAUSE YOU'VE JUST SAID IT'S NOT ENCLOSED.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU SEE YEAH, BUT I, I I THINK THE QUESTION I I HAVE IS, IS REALLY JUST VERY BASIC.
IS IS THE INTENTION OF THE LINE MORE OVER THE FENCE AROUND THE COMBAT REMAIN THE SAME, IS TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THE QUESTION IS ASKING IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO DEFEAT THE CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS.
IS VERIZON PROPOSING YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT AS THE GOAL? THAT'S THE GOAL.
THAT'S THE THE INCENTIVE BEHIND THIS QUESTION.
WHEN WE FIND, FOR EXAMPLE, DOWN AT HARTSDALE PARKING, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE FENCE THEN IT'S JUST A, A CHAINING FENCE.
BUT IF THERE IS LIKE THERE IS UP AT OLD, WHAT IS THAT OLD, UM, ARMY YOU GO UP, UH, PAST SAM'S AND YOU GO FURTHER UP, THERE'S A JACKSON, I THINK IT'S THERE.
AND IT, IT ISN'T WITHIN IT, BUT THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITHIN IT.
AND THE FENCE IS KIND OF OPEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S FALLING APART.
BUT THE GOAL IS TO BETTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEPICTION OF DEFENSE IS TO SAY IT'S GOING TO STAY THE SAME GIVES US NO INFORMATION BECAUSE WE CAN'T EVEN SAY IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THE SAME, I'M GONNA PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE YOU PREVIOUSLY TOLD ME YOU'RE ONLY, UH, TIED TO THE CODE.
THE CODE DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING YOU'VE JUST SAID IS NO WHAT THE INTENTION OF IT OR WHAT THE PURPOSE OF IT IS.
THIS THING SAYS SPECIFICALLY SHOWING THAT YOUR MOB MODIFICATION IS NOT GONNA EXISTING CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS.
IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CODE, YOU'LL FIND THAT THE AESTHETICS IS DEFINED AND YOU'LL FIND, FIND EXACTLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF IT IS.
AND SO THAT, AND THAT IS DEFINED.
IT'S NOT WRITTEN HERE, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA CLAIM TO KNOW THE CODE, THEN YOU SHOULD GO BACK AND READ IT.
BUT THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU ARE INELIGIBLE, FACILITIES REQUEST AESTHETICS IS NO LONGER PART OF THE ISSUE.
IT'S CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS ARE SO IF, IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WILL DEFEAT THE EXISTING CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS, THEN THAT, THAT IF THE, IF THE FENCE NO LONGER HAS THEM, THEN YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE KEEPING IT, YOU'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA REPAIR THE SLIDES BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCEALMENT ELEMENT.
SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA THEN SAY IT'S CROWN'S RESPONSIBILITY IS ANOTHER ARGUMENT FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, SO WE CAN'T EVEN SAY WHETHER THE CONCEALMENT ELEMENT IS BEING DEFEATED OR NOT.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THE CONCEALMENT ELEMENT IS THE PRIVACY SLATS AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE IS THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING AN APPLICATION THAT INVOLVES CHANGING THE FENCE OR THE PRIVACY SLATS.
WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER THAT THEY SAY THEY WANNA KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD SEND A PICTURE OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AND SAY IT'S GOING TO STAY JUST LIKE THIS AND DATE THE PICTURE.
IS THERE SOMETHING TO PREVENT THE AVERAGE, LIKE KIDS TO CLIMB UP THOSE STAIRS TO GET TO YOUR DOOR AS WELL? THAT'S WHY, THAT'S ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHY I WENT AND WHY I LOOKED AT THE BEHIND THE FENCE.
THERE WERE BOXES TO CLIMB OVER.
THE FENCE KEEPS THEM FROM THE STAIRS INSIDE THAT GO TO THE TOP.
SO THERE ARE TO THE LOCKED DOOR, BUT, BUT THE REASON IT MATTERS IS NOT JUST THE LOCKED DOOR.
IT MATTERS BECAUSE IF THEY CAN GET TO THOSE STAIRS, THEY CAN GET DOWN TO GET TO THE MORE OPEN, UM, PROVIDERS.
SO THE TOWN WENT AND MADE SURE THOSE BOXES WERE REMOVED.
BUT IT IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE FENCE, IF YOU PUT THINGS THERE, YOU CAN CLIMB OVER TO THE STAIRS AND GO DOWN INTO THE OTHER PROVIDERS.
AND SINCE A BUTT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE NOBODY'S WATCHING.
YEAH, I HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT THAT.
IF THERE'S STUFF THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO MAKE THE SITE MORE SAFE, THAT'S FINE.
IT'S, I I'M JUST, I MY SPECIFIC QUESTION WAS THAT DIDN'T TOUCH THE FENCE AND THAT WAS THE POINT.
AND WE WANNA KNOW WHAT THE CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS LOOK LIKE.
JUST, AND THEN THE EXISTING FENCE LAYOUT IS THE EXISTING FEDS LAYOUT.
YOU KNOW, YOU ASK THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT BOXES HAVEN'T BEEN BOOKED.
YEAH, NO, I THINK, I THINK IT'S, I HAVE COMPLETELY REASONABLE WHERE THEIR KIDS DRINKING BEHIND IT.
THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, BOTTLES AND BOXES AND EVERYTHING THAT MAKE IT EASY.
AND THE WHOLE THING HAS BEEN KIDS SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CLIMB MONO BALLS.
WELL CLIMB IN GENERAL BECAUSE YOU GET, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU CLIMB IN A MONOPOLE AND FALL FROM 20 FEET HIGH OR YOU GO UP THE STAIRS AND FALL FROM 20 FEET HIGH.
IT'S LIKE, WELL THE, THE STAIRS ARE LIKE FOUR FEET HIGH, BUT YEAH, I GET YOUR THAT'S THE OPEN ONES.
THE OTHER ONES IN BACK OF NO, THE OPEN ONES ARE THE ONES THAT HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT A A CHILDREN NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLIMBING OVER IT.
SO AT LEAST I AM DON'T YOU WALK OR TALK? YEAH.
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YOU THOSE DANG LADDERS MUCH MORE.IF WE CAN JUST KEEP ON GOING BECAUSE I, WE ALL, OKAY, SO S WHAT DID WE HAVE OUT? UM, I THINK ON A C 5.1 HE ADDED ADDITIONAL NOTES REGARDING COLOR OF ALL APARTMENTS.
WHERE DO YOU HAVE THAT ADDED? SO C TWO THEY CALLED OUT THE AT AND T GRAY METAL EQUIPMENT CABINETS.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE VISIBLE.
UH, T-MOBILE AND VERIZON BOTH HAVE SHELTERS.
WE JUST HAD AN APPLICATION THAT DID A GREAT JOB AT SHOWING US WHAT KIND OF GRAY, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF GRAY, AND AGAIN, THIS IS BEING CONSISTENT.
SO YOU'RE CALLING OUT THE APARTMENTS IS GRAY.
WHAT KIND, I'M GONNA JUST WRITE WHAT KIND OF GRAY? YES.
UM, IDENTITY, IDENTIFY WHAT SOMETHING IS NOT SIMPLY EQUIPMENT.
DID YOU SHOW US WHERE TO LOOK FOR THIS ONE? UM, I BELIEVE, YEAH, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD ON THE C3 THEY HAD, UH, N ON C TWO THEY HAD VERIZON EQUIPMENT.
AND NOW THEY'VE LIKE SPECIFIED OUT THE CSS ANTENNAS, THE NOKIA ANTENNAS AND THE SAMSUNG ANTENNAS DISH PENDING DISH WAS UP, RIGHT? YEAH.
NOW DISH HAS BEEN SHOWN AS EXISTING AND SO AND WHO OWNS THE TOWER THAT ON C TWO AS WELL? OH, THERE IT SAYS CHROME HAS A ONE.
SO THE ONLY THING WE'RE MISSING IS THE KIND OF, RIGHT.
SHOW US WHERE THE SIGN IS AND THE SIGN, IT WAS MARKED AS COMPLETE, BUT I HAVE INSTALLED IT HERE AND I WONDER, YEAH, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS LAST TIME WAS LIKE, I THINK YOU WENT TO TAKE A PHOTO AND YOU DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN, SO YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ACTUALLY INSTALLED.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT WE CAN'T TOUCH THE SITE UNTIL WE GET A PERMIT TO DO WORK.
SO IT WILL BE INSTALLED AS PART OF THIS.
WOULDN'T YOU TOUCH IT AS AS THE SITE FOR HAVING GOTTEN THE APPROVAL FOR THE SIGN BEFORE? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S A FISHY THING AND WE DON'T LIKE TO TELL OUR OUR CLIENTS TO DO ANYTHING IF, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT APPLICATION PENDING.
SO WHY DID THEY NOT COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THE PERMIT? IT MIGHT'VE BEEN COMPLIED BUT IT MIGHT'VE NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.
IT MIGHT'VE BEEN, IT MIGHT HAVE FELL DOWN.
I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE SIGN.
I JUST KNOW THE NOTE WAS MADE A COMMENT BECAUSE YOU HAD MADE A COMMENT THAT THE SIGN SHOULD BE INSTALLED, NOT JUST SHOWING ON THE PLANS AND THEN, UH, OKAY.
WE, WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE IT'S INSTALLED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
I'M WRITING IT AGAIN AND IT'S MARKED COMPLETELY WRITING IT AGAIN AND WE HAD THE OTHERS IS COMPLETE.
MUST STATE ADDITIONALLY IN SURE.
YEAH, I THINK IT WAS, IT MAKES MAKE SURE GREENBERG WAS LISTED AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED AND THE CONTENT IS RUNNING WHO FRANCIS IS RUNNING.
AND I'M GONNA JUST ASK WHERE WHERE WE WOULD LOOK FOR THAT.
IT IS ON EXHIBIT G, THE LAST PAGES AND IT MADE IT VERY EASY TO READ IN THE DESCRIPTION BLOCKS.
AND THEN THEY HAVE UM, THE DESCRIPTION BOX, WHICH IS LIKE RIGHT ABOVE CERTIFICATE HOLDER.
GOT THIS INCLUDED AS ADDITIONAL INSURED AND IT WAS ISSUED ON THE 25TH.
AND WHERE'S THE EXPIRATION SITE? HAVE IT? THE EXPIRATION IS MY, MY OFFICE INSURANCE IS LIKE, IT
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JUST AUTOMATICALLY ROLLS OVER.UM, SO THIS ONE, IT'S GOT THE UH, PROFESSIONAL LIABILITIES.
THE EARLIEST IS, UH, FEBRUARY 28TH.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS NOVEMBER 5TH.
UM, I MOVE THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND INITIAL EVERYTHING BUT THAT I, THAT WE DEEMED THIS INCOMPLETE.
WE'LL QUICKLY GO OVER WHAT'S MISSING HERE.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
SO ONE IS A IS COMPLETE, B IS INCOMPLETE.
CLARIFY OWNERSHIP, CLARIFY THE CROWN.
D COMPLETE E COMPLETE F AFFIDAVIT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
UM, G IS YOU'RE CONFIRMING REMOVING NO CABLES REMOVED.
WE NEED UM, YOU NEED TO CORRECT THE ADDRESS, UH, CONFLICTING CENTER LINES ON OF DRAWINGS AND REPORT FOR T-MOBILE CONFLICTING OF OR OMISSIONS OF AT T ANTENNAS, DRAWINGS VERSUS REPORT.
SO THAT'S ONE AND TWO ARE INCOMPLETE AND THREE IS COMPLETE.
UM, OH THAT, WELL THE INTERFERENCE IS COMPLETE.
UM, THE NOISE REPORT IS PQ NEEDED EXPECT NEEDED EXPECTED DAYS, MONTHS, YEARS.
AND THAT'S, SO THAT'S INCOMPLETE.
INCOMPLETE IS IF THE EXISTING, UM, R IS INCOMPLETE CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS, COLOR OF THE ANTENNA.
SO I MOVE THAT WE END THIS IN THIS APPLICATION FOR THREE 13 INCOMPLETE.
YOU THINK THIS DOESN'T, YOU THINK THIS IS COLD? GO OUTSIDE.
I LOCKED MYSELF OUTTA MY HOUSE.
SO NICE WHEN SHE SAYS NOTHING, WE DO HAVE TO DECIDE WHEN OUR NEXT MEETING IS, BUT I WILL LET MIKE KNOW ONCE WE FIGURE IT OUT WE CAN MAKE IT.
OKAY, I HAVE THIS ONE AND UPSTAIRS WHAT WE CAN DO FRANCIS, IS WE COME, I'M GONNA LEAVE.
AND THERE'LL BE MAGIC WHEN IT STARTS AGAIN.
MY MOTHER-IN-LAW'S ON A FEEDING TUBE AND I HAVE A PUMP GOING.
SO I HAVE TO GET ABSOLUTELY WHEN IT'S A FAMILY FIRST TEXAS.
OKAY, SO I'M GONNA RUN UPSTAIRS AND GET IT STAMPED.
SO PLEASE PAUSE WHEN I COME BACK, SAVE MYSELF SOME TIME.
I WASN'T LETTING ME PAUSE IT DOWN THERE.
SO HERE I AM BACK FROM THE UPSTAIRS AND I BROUGHT YOU BOTH A COPY.
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AND I BROUGHT YOU BOTH.