* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH HISTORIC LANDMARKS & PRESERVATION BOARD Tuesday, December 9, 2025 – 7:00 P.M. (Via Zoom Video Conference)*] [00:00:03] RIGHT. SO I JUST, UH, RESTARTED THE, WHERE IS IT? THIS IS RINGING UP SO I CAN RE I CAN READ THROUGH IT IF THAT'S HELPFUL. NO, I'M READING IT. OKAY. I HAVE NO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. I NEVER DO. IF IT WILL PROTECT OUR HERITAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. THE ONE CHANGE THAT ED HAD, UM, AND THIS WAS PER THE PLANNING BOARD DECISION, HE BASICALLY MADE SURE THAT WE ADDED, UM, THAT ANY SUCH ORIGINAL FEATURES THAT MAY NOT BE REPURPOSED BE OFFERED FIRST TO THE TOWN. OKAY. THROUGH COORDINATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER, FOLLOWED BY AN OFFERING TO SALVAGE COMPANIES FOR ALTERNATIVE REUSE. PERFECT. THAT FAIR? SO IF THE BOARD WANTS TO ENTERTAIN IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. GOOD. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. BOARD. HOW DO YOU FEEL? YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH IT. OKAY. UM, DO YOU WANNA VOTE YEAH. ON THE RESOLUTION? UM, I HAVE TO SECOND PLEASE. I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. COR. AYE. I SECONDED IT. OH, YES, I KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE TO VOTE ANYWAY. OKAY. UM, OKAY, CARL, SO THE BOARD VOTES, AYE. AYE. SO MADELINE, THE, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY YOU AND SECONDED BY CORT. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. YES. OKAY. AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU. NOW, WHEN YOU SEND US ALL, UM, I DIDN'T, I DON'T REMEMBER REC EVER SEEING THAT. UM, AARON, CAN YOU SEND A COPY OF THAT TO ME? WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL FINALIZE IT AND STAMP IT OKAY. AND CIRCULATE IT TO ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK KIRA IS MAKING ME A LOVELY LITTLE PACK WEEKLY PACKAGE, AARON. SO IF THIS COULD JUST BE SLIPPED IN HARD COPY SURE THING. BECAUSE IF MCKENNA ISN'T AROUND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NO WAY I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO GET A COPY. MADAM, WILL YOU REMEMBER THE VIDEO CONFERENCE WITH THE ARCHEOLOGIST? YES. OKAY. I I WAS NOT AT THAT, THAT, THAT WAS AT THE SITE VISIT WITH MADELINE AND CARL. OKAY. RIGHT. VERY GOOD. BUT, AND, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS NOTED, UM, ABOUT THAT SITE VISIT IS NOBODY EVER MENTIONED THE, WELL, EXCEPT FOR CARL. SO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S DOWN THE WELL, BECAUSE REMEMBER, WELLS WERE A GREAT PLACE TO THROW THINGS. UM, OUR FARM HAD A, WELL, I WAS NEVER, I WAS TOO YOUNG. I COULD HAVE GONE HEAD FIRST, SO I WAS NEVER ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR IT. UM, THEY'RE ALSO, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, THERE'S A WELL AT THE OLD STAGECOACH END OR, OR STOP OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. AND IT PROBABLY IS ORIGINAL TOO LONG AGO. YEAH. BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE BEEN RIGHT, EXACTLY. BECAUSE THAT WAS A STAGECOACH STOP. SO THERE WOULD'VE BEEN TRAVELERS AND HORSES AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF THERE. OKAY. SPEAKING OF THAT, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALSO ON OUR LIST, UM, I'VE NEVER HEARD BACK FROM ANYBODY AT THE, AND I, AFTER ANNETTE GAVE ME MORE INFORMATION, I CALLED BOTH THE TELEPHONE NUMBER AND I SENT ANOTHER EMAIL AND I HAVE HEARD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM TARRYTOWN. HUH. THAT'S UNUSUAL. 'CAUSE WHEN I SPOKE TO THE TOWN CLERK, THE VILLAGE CLERK THAT DAY, UM, WHERE I GOT HER THE WOMAN'S NAME AND PHONE NUMBER, SHE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY USUALLY RETURN THEIR PHONE CALLS. WELL, THEY DIDN'T UNLESS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THE SIGN, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN OVER THERE. UM, THE SIGN WAS PUT UP BY THE VILLAGE OF, BY THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN, BUT THERE IS A DATE ON IT AND I COULDN'T REALLY MAKE OUT THE DATE. IT'S EITHER 1955 OR 1965. RIGHT. AND I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THAT WAS PUT UP. I, I KNOW THAT TARRYTOWN HAD THEIR CENTENNIAL, I THINK IT WAS A HUNDRED YEAR CENTENNIAL, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THEM ON THAT SCREEN THAT SAYS, AND THEN I FOUND IT'S NOT UNDER STAGECOACH, IT'S UNDER COLONIAL HOUSE. REALLY? IF YOU LOOK AT [00:05:01] IT, UM, I THOUGHT I SENT YOU A, A, LIKE A, A LITTLE STORY THAT SOMEBODY WROTE. IT'S AN ANONYMOUS STORY. YES, I SAW THAT. IT'S, THAT GOES WITH THAT, THAT SIGN. OH, OKAY. AND IT DOES SAY IT, THE SIGN DOESN'T READ STAGECOACH STOP. IT READS COLONIAL HOUSE. YES, YES IT DOES. SO IT WAS ON WHAT WAS CALLED THEN, WHICH IS NOW THE DRIVEWAY. REMEMBER THAT DAY I SAID TO YOU, THIS ROAD WAS CHANGED AND THAT YES. EXTRA PIECE WAS ADDED ON AS A ROAD GOING UP NOW TO THE SENIOR CENTER. BRIGHT BROADVIEW OR SOMETHING? BRIGHTVIEW. BRIGHTVIEW, YEAH. AND, UM, THE MAN ROAD AND, AND I, AND IT WAS CALLED PETTY COAT LANE, RIGHT. WAS A DIRT ROAD. IT WAS CALLED PETCO LANE. AND THEN THAT HOOKED UP TO ONE 19. NOW, IF YOU STAYED ON THAT ROAD, HERE'S A BIT OF HISTORY, YOU STAYED ON THAT ROAD AND YOU MADE THAT BAIRD RIGHT ONTO BENEDICT AS YOU WENT UP TO BENEDICT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OLD HOUSES. THERE'S AN OLD CHURCH THAT HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO A HOUSE, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER LITTLE SIDE STREET THAT HAS DIMMERS, UH, UP, UH, PRO WHAT IS DIMS PROPERTY, WHICH, AND THAT HOUSE HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO A RESTAURANT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL OPENED OR NOT. IT WAS OWNED BY THE, I THINK IT WAS OWNED BY, PARTLY OWNED BY THE DIMERS AND PARTLY OWNED BY THE THERANOS. NOW WHILE YOU'RE BACK ON BENEDICT, WHERE THE HOUSE WAS, THERE WAS WHERE THE HOUSE IS. IT NOW SAYS, UM, GOD, I CAN'T THINK OF THE LAST NAME. CIO. IT USED TO BE, UM, IT USED TO BE ANU, UM, I, THE WHAT'S THE NURSE? 10 ZILLOWS. IT USED TO BE, UH, ZILLOW'S LIVED THERE. THEY'RE AN OLD FAMILY IN GREENBURG. YOU HAVE ON CENTRAL AVENUE, ZILLOW NURSERIES. OKAY. THAT'S MY, AND LUCY USED TO WORK FOR THE TOWN, IF YOU REMEMBER ANNETTE. YES, SHE DID. THAT'S MY FATHER'S COUSINS. OH. THE LITTLE MAN THAT USED TO SIT AT THE END OF THIS, HIS DRIVEWAY WHERE VAL POCHE LIVES NOW WAS A ZILLOW. THAT WAS UNCLE NICK ZILLOW, MY FATHER'S UNCLE. VERY INTERESTING. I I, I, I AM WELL SORT OF FRIENDLY WITH, UM, I CALL HIM NIKKI ZILLOW, WHO RUNS THE NURSERY NOW. THAT'S THE SON. THAT'S LUCY'S SON? YES. YES. YEAH. OKAY. UM, I FORGOT THAT SHE WORKED FOR THE TOWN. OH YEAH, SHE WAS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. YEAH. AND SHE AND I GOT VERY, VERY FRIENDLY. SHE, SHE WAS A NICE WOMAN. LOVELY. UH, OKAY. GEMAN, I HAVE GOTTEN NO RETURN. I SENT, OH, WEEKS AGO I SENT A NOTE TO BOTH FRANCIS SHEEN AND LIZ GARRITY IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. A NOTE ASKING, SINCE THEY HAD BOTH MET WITH SOMEBODY FROM MARION WOODS, COULD THEY PLEASE GO BACK AND BACK TRACK THAT AND SET UP A MEETING FOR US. AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT WE, THEY DO IT BEFORE THANKSGIVING. SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO HAVE BEEN A, BEEN AN OCTOBER LETTER. I GOT NO REPLY AT ALL. SO I'M, I'M NOT A HAPPY CAMPER. UM, LIFE GOT INVOLVED TODAY. I WAS GOING TO RESEND THE WHOLE THING, ASSUMING I COULD FIND IT, OF COURSE. BUT I WOULD WRITE IT AGAIN. UM, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE GEMAN IS AND, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT IN GREAT SHAPE. UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT THE STATE SOMEHOW HAS MONEY AND GARRETT WAS SUPPOSEDLY WRITING OR INQUIRING OF THE STATE. ARE WE ELIGIBLE FOR IT TO USE FOR GEMAN? AND WHERE THAT IS, I CAN'T TELL YOU. DID I JUST READ ANOTHER EMAIL WHERE IT SAID THAT THEY WERE APPLYING FOR A DEMO PERMIT FOR THAT HOUSE? PROBABLY. I DON'T HAVE IT, BUT PROBABLY THEY KEEP TRYING. AND WHICH HOUSE IS THAT? GEMAN. THE GEMAN HOUSE. YEAH. I SENT SOMETHING ABOUT IT TOO. YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE, UM, KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACT THAT THEY APPLIED FOR A DEMO PERMIT? I DO. AND YOU DIDN'T SHARE IT? OH YEAH. UH, WE CERTAINLY DID. WHERE I THOUGHT WE, I THOUGHT WE, THERE WAS AN EMAIL TRANSMITTED. I SEE ARMENIA AND CARL AS WELL. WHEN WAS THIS EMAIL? COULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY, UH, A MONTH [00:10:01] OR EVEN MORE AGO AT THIS POINT. I KNOW THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS BEFORE THE SUMMER. I WANT TO SAY IT'S A LITTLE MORE RECENT THAN THAT. BUT I, I COULD BE WRONG. I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK. I KNOW IT RAN THROUGH GARRETT. I REMEMBER MATT INDICATING, BECAUSE HE RECEIVES ALL THE WETLAND WATER COURSE CLEARANCE, SWARMS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR OFFICE. RIGHT? YEP. AND HE, AND HE ALERTED US THAT THERE WAS NOW A WETLAND WATERCOURSE CLEARANCE FORM SUBMISSION RELATED TO PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE. MM-HMM . I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WOULD GAIN BY, BY DEMOLISHING THE STRUCTURE. IT'S NO MORE SUB DIVIDABLE AT THAT POINT THAN IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO. SO, UH, WHAT HAS CHANGED, AARON? YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE? I HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT IT. I CAN MAKE A NOTE TO TOUCH BASE WITH GARRETT TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY FURTHER UPDATE ON THE MATTER OR IF HE'S HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD GAIN, BUT, WELL, SINCE I KNOW THAT BOTH LIZ AND FRANCIS SPOKE WITH SOMEBODY OR SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, PLURAL, NUNS, UM, I WANNA SAY AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, I DON'T KNOW. I'M, YOU, YOU CAN BE SURE I'LL BE ONTO BOTH OF THEM TOMORROW BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING MUCH TOO HARD FOR, FOR TO TO LOSE THIS HOUSE. AND, AND BESIDES WII, THE, THE NUN'S OWN ARCHITECT SAID THAT IT WAS A HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO WHEN YOU STOP TO THINK OF WHO LIVED THERE AND WHAT THE MAN INVENTED, I MEAN, I, I DON'T GET IT, BUT IIII, I JUST HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THE NUNS, AARON, HOW MUCH DOES DEMOLITION COST? AND THERE HAS TO BE ASBESTOS THERE. SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE BEEHIVE THINGS AROUND IT. HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST? CERTAINLY NOT INEXPENSIVE, I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. . WELL, IF THE NUNS ARE STRAPPED FOR MONEY, THEY MUST HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND TO DO THIS FOR THEM, WHO IS THEN GOING TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF AN ACRE AND A HALF OF PROPERTY. BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T TELL ME HOW THEY'RE GONNA COME AND GO, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE WATER, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE LIGHT AND WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GET THE SEWER RIGHT. AND WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO A PASSIVE PARK. RIGHT. AND GARRETT DID INDICATE THAT HE WAS GOING TO, HE WANTED TO REACH OUT TO THE STATE ABOUT THIS PROPOSED DEMO. I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT I'LL CHECK IN WITH HIM ON THAT AS WELL. OKAY. WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY SO THAT I CAN PUT ALL OF US OUT OF, OUT OF THEIR MISERY AND LET ME KNOW TOMORROW BEFORE THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND OUT? I CERTAINLY WILL. OKAY. SO I HAVE A BUNCH OF NOTES FROM THIS EVENING AND I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THEM AS SOON AS THEY COME IN. SO IT MAY NOT JUST BE ONE FULL UPDATE. IF WE ONLY GET AN UPDATE ON GEMAN TOMORROW, I WILL GET YOU THAT UPDATE. THAT'S ALL I WANT. THE ENTIRE BOARD, THAT'S ALL I, THAT'S ALL I WANTED. THE ENTIRE BOARD. SAME WITH 3 25 OLD ARMY, UM, JOYCE ROAD, WHERE THAT STANDS. AND WE'LL RE WE'LL CIRCULATE, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING H AND PBS RESOLUTION THIS EVENING ON BOTH 3 25 OLD ARMY AND BETHEL KNOWLES. OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. DID A MELISSA SOMETHING BEGINNING WITH AN M WHOSE LAST NAME IS FLEISCH, SOMETHING EVER CONTACT YOU? 'CAUSE THAT'S MY FAULT. WAS THIS RELATED TO 3 25 OLD ARMY? YEP, IT WAS SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY LEFT ME, I BELIEVE WITH THAT NAME, ALTHOUGH IT DIDN'T COME UP AS THAT NAME, BUT I BELIEVE SHE SAID THE FLEISCH FLEISCHMAN OR WHATEVER IT MAY HAVE BEEN. I, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE PERSON. I DIDN'T, I I DIDN'T PHONE HER BACK THOUGH. BUT IT DID COME THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. SHE WANTS TO BUY THE PROPERTY, REHAB THE HOUSE BECAUSE THAT'S [00:15:01] THEIR BUSINESS AND REHAB. THE LANDSCAPING NOT SUBDIVIDED ALL. OKAY, SO THIS WAS WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO EARLIER? YES, BECAUSE YES, IN THE MESSAGE IT, SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT SHE AND HER HUSBAND LIVE LOCALLY. MM-HMM . SHE DIDN'T GET INTO, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, RESTORE OR RENOVATE, BUT SHE DID SAY THAT THEY LIVE LOCALLY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. SO WE CAN PHONE HER BACK. I DON'T KNOW HER, I DON'T KNOW HER. SOMEBODY ELSE IN QUOTES ACCOSTED ME WHEN I WAS PACKING THINGS IN THE GARAGE, UM, RIGHT. LIKE ABOUT MONDAY OR TUESDAY OF LAST WEEK. SO, UM, AND ASKED ME WHAT I KNEW. UM, AND SHE DOES HAPPEN TO BE A DIRECT NEIGHBOR TO THAT PROPERTY, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE WOMAN TO WHOM SHE WAS REFERRING. AND I SAID, THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN TELL, I'M SORRY, I DID IT TO YOU. UM, I HAVE ONLY ONE OTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AND THAT'S WHEN IS THE, UH, LINDEN SIGN GOING UP AND IS THERE GOING AND SHOULDN'T WE GET AN MEDIA, UM, ATTENTION? SO THE SIGN HAS NOT YET BEEN ORDERED. I, WHAT WE DID IS I REACHED, I HAD PATTY REACH OUT TO THE SIGN MAKER MM-HMM . THE BLACK MAKER TO GET AN UPDATED QUOTE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER WASN'T CUTTING A CHECK FOR AN OUTDATED QUOTE. RIGHT. WE GOT THAT QUOTE. IT WAS SLIGHTLY HIGHER, I MEAN, NOT MUCH MORE THAN IT HAD BEEN THREE YEARS AGO OR WHENEVER IT WAS. AND HE SINCE SUBMITTED THAT CHECK. SO WE HAVE THE FUNDS, WE GOT THE FINAL PROOF, YOU KNOW, ON THE PLAQUE MM-HMM . WHICH WAS, I BELIEVE REVIEWED IT HAS NOT CHANGED FROM WHAT WENT TO H AND LPB. RIGHT. WHICH YOU SIGNED OFF PREVIOUSLY. MM-HMM . UM, I HAVE TO GET BACK TO PATTY TO, YOU KNOW, APPROVE THAT AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE IT AND THEN IT WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE TOWN. UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE A DATE YET FOR INSTALLATION. OH, THANK YOU. BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THE BOARD UPDATED AS THINGS PROGRESS. OKAY. I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, GET OUT A PRESS RELEASE AND SEE IF GOOD OLD CHANNEL 12 DOESN'T WANNA COME FOR, FOR A RIBBON CUTTING OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. THE MORE WE CAN BRING, UM, VISIBILITY TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE IN GREENBURG, THE BETTER IT'S GOING TO BE. I AGREE. MADELINE, UH, AARON, HAVE THOSE HOUSES BEEN BUILT YET ON THAT, UH, UP THERE? NO, THEY HAVE NOT. IN FACT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILDER THAT WANTS TO BUY THE SUBDIVISION FROM HIM. AND THEY HAVE FUNDING THAT'RE OBTAINING THE SEEK THROUGH NEW YORK STATE AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY IN ORDER TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR, IS THAT WEST HALF? IT IS NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. UM, UM, TO BUILD THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES. OH, OKAY. ON THE SEVEN ACRES. YES. SO ON THE NINE LOTS. ON THE NINE LOTS. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE THEY, THEY, UH, I DON'T, I'M NOT 100% SURE OF THE ENTITY BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID IT WOULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL IF THERE WAS EITHER A LETTER OR EMAIL FROM THE TOWN THAT GETS FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY. AND I THINK THAT RELATES TO THE FUNDING MECHANISM, WHICH INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY WAS APPROVED BY SUBDIVISION OF THE PLANNING BOARD ON SUCH AND SUCH A DATE THAT THE LOTS EACH MEET THE UNDERLYING SINGLE FAMILY, UH, ZONING REGULATIONS. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE ONLY ADDITIONAL, ASIDE FROM MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, THE ONLY OTHER APPROVALS REQUIRED FROM THE TOWN ARE ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. NATURE. OKAY. COULD THESE HOUSES BE FOR GREENBERG RESIDENTS OR DO, OR IS IT OPEN TO ALL OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY? THAT I DON'T KNOW AS OF YET. GOOD QUESTION THOUGH. YEAH, IT'S VERY EARLY. I MEAN, I HAVEN'T EVEN SPOKEN DIRECTLY WITH THIS ENTITY. THAT ENTITY MAY BE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL BE. YEAH. BUT WE DON'T WANNA PUT THE SIGN UP UNTIL AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION IN CASE THE SIGN WANDERS. THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. WELL, WOULDN'T YOU, THE WAY THE APPROVAL READS IS THAT IT [00:20:01] SHALL BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF ANY CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S THE WAY THE PLANNING BOARD DECISION READS. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S STUPID BECAUSE SOMEBODY CAN COME IN THERE WITH A BACKHOE OR A BULLDOZER AND THAT SIGN WILL COME DOWN. IT'LL BE LOST. WELL, I'LL SAY THIS, IF, IF FOR ANY REASON, AND YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPER WHO'S SELLING, HE'S THE ONE THAT PAID FOR THE PLAQUE. YEAH. HE MAY WANT TO INSTALL IT AND BE PART OF ANY, YOU KNOW, RIBBON CUTTING EVENT BEFORE HE, YOU KNOW, THERE A PROPERTY. AND THEN IT COULD BE RIGHT, IT COULD BE TEMPORARILY RE IT COULD BE TEMPORARILY RE REMOVED AND HOUSED IT WITH THE TOWN. MM-HMM . OR WE CAN PUT LIKE A CHAIN LINK FENCE OR SOME OTHER BARRICADE AROUND IT. BUT EVEN JUST FOR PURPOSES, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE MEDIA THERE AND HAVE AN ACTUAL EVENT OH YEAH. I THINK HE WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THAT. OH, THAT'S FAIR. YEAH, THAT'S FAIR. THAT'S FINE. DEFINITELY. THAT'S FINE. UM, BUT I'D ALSO HOLD THE, UM, NEW DEVELOPER LIABLE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS HE NEEDS TO REPLACE IT IN LIKE AND KIND. CERTAINLY. I MEAN, I THINK THAT CAN BE PART OF THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE, UM, PUT UP. I MEAN, THAT'S REASONABLE. IT MAKES PERFECTLY, IT MAKES PERFECTLY GOOD SENSE. UM, IS THERE ANY, I JUST NEED TO ASK MADELINE, DID 5 99 THE STAGE COACH GET ITS DEMO PERMIT? NO. WE HAD WRITTEN THE LETTER THAT IF HE REPURPOSED AND REDID RIGHT, HE COULD MOVE FORWARD. SO WHERE IS HE? I DON'T KNOW. AARON, WHERE IS THE STAGE COACH? I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING IN SEVERAL WEEKS FROM THEM. SO, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT TO, UM, TO REFURBISH. I MEAN, I, THE LI I HAVE THE LIST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WHERE I AM NOW. UM, BUT YES, ARMENIA IS RIGHT. I MEAN THERE'S A LOT. I MEAN THE CHAPEL AND ALL, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THAT PLACE WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. AND DID H AND LPB ADOPTED A RESOLUTION WITH THE VARIOUS REQUESTS ON THAT ONE? NO. OR WAS IT STILL IN PROCESS? IT'S IN PROCESS. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T, BECAUSE WE HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT HE WANTED TO DO. AND WE ALSO, OKAY. SO IT WAS JUST, IT WAS BASED OFF THAT SITE VISIT. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FEATURES IDENTIFIED. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN THERE WAS A LETTER TRANSMITTED TO THOSE FOLKS. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM. I'LL ASK FOR AN UPDATE, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO, WELL, WE, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE IF IT'S THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND I HAD THOUGHT THAT, UH, KIRA WAS GOING TO CALL THEM. UM, THAT'S WHAT NEW YORK STATE TOLD ME IN THE FIFTIES AND THE SIXTIES. IT WAS THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THAT PUT UP THE HISTORIC SIGNS. AND THIS IS A NEW YORK STATE SIGN. SO IT IS, YES. AND I AGREE WITH ANNETTE THE REASON IT MIGHT BE THERE, BUT WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GO MAKING THOUGHTS HERE IF, IF REALLY IF THE STATE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED, WE'VE GOTTA FIND OUT. OF COURSE. SO NOTHING, NOTHING CAN REALLY BE DONE. NO DEMO, NO ANYTHING UNTIL WE CAN STRAIGHTEN OUT HOW TARRYTOWN GOT INVOLVED. I DON'T MIND THEIR BEING INVOLVED, BUT THEY, THEY, THE HISTORIC SOCIETY PUT IT UP. BUT IT WAS BLESSED BY NEW YORK STATE. I'M NOT TANGLING WITH THE STATE, AARON. WE GET OUR MONEY FROM THEM. UNDERSTOOD. SPEAKING OF FIVE NINE, WE FOUND SOMETHING RECENTLY. MAY I SHARE IT? OF COURSE. OF COURSE. SO DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN? YEP. I'M VERY IMPRESSED. CARL, THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. IT SAYS IT WAS RELOCATED TO THIS, UH, PRESENT SITE IN 1953. WHAT WAS THE YEAR OF THE SIGN THAT MAY HAVE PROMPTED THE SIGN? 55 OR FIF OR 65? I THINK 55. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. APPARENTLY THE HOME BELONGED TO BENJAMIN LYON, A SIGNIFICANT FIGURE IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. UM, HE WAS A, A DELEGATE WHO VOTED FOR THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND THERE'S ODELL INVOLVED IN IT TOO. YEAH. BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER MAN'S NAME BY THE NAME OF, I THINK IT WAS JOHN SOMETHING. YES. JOHN ODELL. ODELL. OH, JOHN ODELL, RIGHT. UH, IT'S IN ONE OF THESE, UH, I SAW IT HERE BEFORE. [00:25:01] I CAN'T FIND IT NOW, BUT YEAH, ODELL WAS INVOLVED AS WELL. UM, SO WHO, WHY WAS IT MOVED AND WHO MOVED IT? DO WE KNOW? DO WE KNOW WHY IT SAYS THE HOUSE WAS SAVED FROM DEMOLITION AND RELOCATED TO ITS PRESENT SITE IN 1953? YEAH, I WOULD THINK MAYBE TARRYTOWN MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, OR THE STATE AND OR THE STATE. . WE, WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET IN TOUCH WITH TARRYTOWN HERE. THERE'S AN ARTICLE IN LOHA ABOUT IT. RENOVATION OF A 17 HUNDREDS WHITE PLAINS COLONIAL HAS BEEN FEATURED IN HOUSE. BEAUTIFUL. REALLY? YEAH. UM, COL, CAN YOU SEND THOSE TO ME PLEASE? YEAH, SORRY, I, I DON'T DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED HERE. OKAY. I CAN'T, WHY, TELL ME WHERE YOU FOUND THEM. YOU HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION TO LOW UHHUH . I DO, BUT I NEED TO SIGN IN AND I DON'T REMEMBER MY PASSWORDS, BUT I WILL, I'LL PUT THIS IN THE FOR EVERYONE. UM, AND THEN I'LL PUT THIS AS WELL. BUT FOR NOW, LET ME DO THIS. UM, WHERE'S THE CHAT? OKAY. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A WHITE COAT. I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT'S OKAY. YOU ALL HAVE THAT LINK THERE. I JUST PUT IT IN THE CHAT. YOU'RE VERY, IT'S SO IT SAYS, BUT NO, THAT SAYS WHITE PLAINS COLONIAL. SO YEAH. FITTING ON COLONIAL AVENUE AND WHITE PLAINS, UNLESS IT WAS RELOCATED FROM WHITE PLAINS TO TARRYTOWN. BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, I'M NOT SURE THIS IS IT. NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A JA IT'S NOT A JAZZY HOUSE. BEAUTIFUL HOMEY. AND THAT'S SOMETIMES, IT NEVER WAS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, AI THAT IT CAN MAKE, THERE'S THE DIFFERENCE. IT'S OLD WHITE PLAINS ROAD, NOT WHITE PLAINS ROAD. UH, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. BUT THESE, THESE SIMILARITIES ARE INTERESTING THOUGH. THEY ALL, IT'S IT IS, IT'S A LITTLE CRAZY. IT'S A LITTLE CRAZY. BUT NOW IT ALSO REMEMBER TARRYTOWN ROAD, WHEN YOU'RE IN WHITE PLAINS, IT'S CALLED TARRYTOWN ROAD. WHEN YOU'RE IN GREENBURG, IT'S CALLED TARRYTOWN ROAD. WHEN YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT, IT THEN BECOMES WHITE PLAINS ROAD. OLD WHITE PLAINS ROAD. OLD, NO WHITE PLAINS ROAD. LOOK AT THIS. LOOK AT THIS. IT SAYS THE COLONIAL HOUSE, THE AT 5 99 OLD WHITE PLAINS ROAD. IS IT? BUT, BUT YEAH. SEE THAT'S WHERE THINGS GET TRICKY WITH AI BECAUSE LOOK, I MEAN, WHERE IT SAYS LOCATION SITUATED IN WHITE PLAINS PART OF TARRYTOWN. I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT'S FACTUALLY INACCURATE. OKAY. BUT LET'S FOLLOW THE LOHA ARTICLE AND LET'S SEE WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS. I THINK WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I CAN'T GET INTO IT. IT SAYS THE HOUSE. BEAUTIFUL OR THAT 1953. UH, I CAN'T READ ANY FURTHER FROM HERE, BUT DOES, IF ANYONE CAN ACCESS LOHA, YOU'LL FIND IT. I PUT THE LINK IN THE, UH, OKAY. I I HAVE LO HUD OKAY. I DO TOO, BUT YOU DON'T WANNA DEPEND ON ME. WELL, I HAVE TWO, I HAVE TWO, I HAVE TWO GIRLS THAT HANG OUT WITH ME DURING THE DAY. I, I, I ARE MY COMPUTER COMPUTER EXPERTS, ANNETTE, IF YOU, WELL, I HAVE A FAMILY OF THREE HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ALL GO THEY'RE OWN WAY. REMEMBER WE DO GOATS PEOPLE, ANYONE THAT PULLS THAT UP, IF THEY, I WOULD ASK THAT THEY CIRCULATE IT WITH TO ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. PLEASE. IS THAT THE WHOLE ARTICLE OR IS THERE MORE TO IT? NO, THERE'S A LOT MORE. I JUST CAN'T GET TO IT. OH, THAT'S ALRIGHT. LOG IN RIGHT NOW. I HAVE IT ON THE OTHER, SO I'M GONNA STOP SHARING. BUT I THINK IF WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCHING, I THINK WE COULD FIND A LOT OF THIS OUT. THAT'S PART OF THE FUN, CARL OF THIS YEAH. OF, OF OUR MISSION. AT LEAST AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I DON'T, I GET FRUSTRATED WITH, WITH THE COMPUTER AND ALL THAT, BUT IT REALLY IS FUN. OKAY. OUR NEXT MEETING IS JANUARY SOMETHING. LET ME LOOK. I HAVE THE, THE SCHEDULE OF EVENTS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING SORT OF JANUARY 14TH AND FEBRUARY 11TH VIA ZOOM. BUT SOMEPLACE IN JANUARY, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT CARL AND ARMENIA BESP SPOKESPERSON AND THAT, UM, ANNETTE GO TO BOLSTER THE FORCES. I WILL, IT TAKES GARRETT AND FRANCIS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE TOWN HAS IT RIGGED. BUT I CAN GET ON THE TOWN BOARD MEETING IF I GET BOTH OF THOSE TOGETHER. AND WHAT DAY KNOW IS THAT JANUARY THE 11TH? WELL, I'M THINKING THAT THAT'S WHEN BETH L KNOWLES [00:30:01] MIGHT BE ON. OKAY. I'M NOT IN TOWN UNTIL THE 15TH TO THE 24TH. OKAY. I'M OUT OF TOWN. RIGHT ON THAT BOARD. EXCUSE ME. CORRECT. ON THAT BOARD. YEAH. BUT, UM, BECAUSE HE IS ON THE PLANNING BOARD, I TEND TO TELL HIM TO STAY HOME. GOT IT. OKAY. I DON'T WANNA COMPROMISE HIM. SO IF A AARON, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE THE FIRST TO FIND OUT WHAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA. COULD YOU LET US ALL KNOW I'M, I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE, BUT YOU KNOW, I I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, HAPPEN THAT DAY. I'M SORRY. CAN CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? IS THAT THE TOWN BOARD AGENDA FOR BETHEL KNOWLES? YES. I WILL MAKE A NOTE THAT, UM, WE NOTIFY AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN GET TOO, BUT FOR SURE, FOR SURE. I'M GONNA GET TO KNOW THOSE OPTIONS THAT SHE CITED. I SHOULD HAVE REALLY READ. YOU SEE, ONCE, ONCE I READ THE FACT THAT THEY WERE DISAGREEING WITH EVERYTHING, I DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, ARMENIA, I WAS READING THAT CAREFULLY. THEY, THEY WEREN'T CITING OPTIONS. THEY WERE SAYING WHY THIS WAS NOT A GOOD OPTION IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY. OH. BECAUSE I KNOW THEY CHARACTERIZED THE ROAD AS BEING TOO CLOSE ALL OF A SUDDEN. I KNOW THEY TRIED TO SHOW IT AND THEN THEY SAID, OH, BUT IT'S NO GOOD BECAUSE OF THIS. AND THEY WERE ALSO SAYING THEY WOULD LOSE THREE UNITS, ET CETERA. THERE WERE A FEW LITTLE THINGS THEY WERE TICKING OFF. SO THEY, THEY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE OFFERING OPTIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE JUST SHOOTING THEM DOWN SO THAT WE DON'T BRING THEM. BUT THAT DOESN'T BRING THEM UP. BUT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THAT OWNER WHO I REALLY HAVE SOME CONCERNS FOR, SHE WAS WILLING TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE TILTED SO THEY'RE NOT LOOKING IN HER BACKYARD OR THAT THEY PUT UP ENOUGH LANDSCAPING AND THAT. SO IF SHE'S STARTING TO COMPROMISE ON US, I MEAN AS, AS LONG AS THEY SHOWED SOMETHING THAT PRESERVED THAT BUILDING AT THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING TO AT LEAST SINK OUR TEETH INTO. YES. I, I WOULD AGREE. I THINK PROBABLY FROM THE LITTLE I'VE READ AND KNOW THAT THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OPTION IS TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS SHORE UP THE, UH, FOUNDATION AND DO THE REMEDIAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, MOVING IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION, ASIDE FROM THE FACT IT DOES DETRACT FROM SOME OF THE HISTORIC VALUE OF THE HOUSE IS AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. MM-HMM . AND YOU HAVE TO BUILD A FOUNDATION AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE SAME FOUNDATION, THE STONE AND THE CEMENT THAT IT WAS ON ORIGINALLY. YOU KNOW, I I, RIGHT NOW I'M, I'M, I'M NOT WILLING TO COMPROMISE OVERLY MUCH. RIGHT. AT ANY RATE, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE US? NO. NO. THEN I THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP. THANKS CARL. THANK YOU EVERYBODY ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING, GUYS. VERY MUCH AARON. YOU'RE WELCOME. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON. HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY, AARON. GOOD SEEING YOU. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY. BYE BYE. ANNETTE MADELINE, I'LL TALK TO YOU TOMORROW. YEP, YOU WILL. I'LL BE AROUND. OKAY, BYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.