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ARE ANY[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH HISTORIC LANDMARKS & PRESERVATION BOARD Tuesday, February 10, 2026 – 7:00 P.M. This meeting will take place in the Lee F. Jackson Room at Town Hall, located at 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh NY, at 18031 Wayne Road, Odessa, FL, and will also take place via Zoom. For additional details (opportunity for the public to attend, listen, or observe) please contact planning@greenburghny.gov. The meeting will be available to be streamed as an archive, via the Town's website.]
OF THE GUESTS THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE TONIGHT? SO WE DO, UM, NOT ON ZOOM AS OF YET, BUT WE DO NEIGHBORS FOR, UH, THE BETHEL KNOLLS PROJECT AND MR. AND MRS. UGI.PEOPLE DID THAT RIGHT? I WAS, I WAS HOPING I HAD IT RIGHT.
SO THEY'RE HERE ON, ON BETHEL KNOLLS AND, UM, UH, SO WHO ELSE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME? THERE WERE, UM, THERE WAS MR. KLEMMER WHO INDICATED, UM, THAT HE WOULD BE ATTEMPTING TO JOIN VIA ZOOM.
SO I'M GONNA KEEP AN EYE OUT AND I DIDN'T SEE AN EMAIL FROM HIM, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK.
UM, 5 99 OLD WHITE PLAINS ROAD AS WELL.
SO LET'S JUST DOUBLE CHECK MY EMAILS VERY QUICKLY.
5, 5 9 9 IS THE OLD STAGE, CORRECT? YES.
SO WHO IS THERE, AARON? SO WE'VE GOT, UM, CARL AND ANNETTE, AS WELL AS MR. AND MRS. UI.
AND I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING MY EMAILS TO SEE IF ANYONE ASKS.
WELL, IN THE MEANTIME, UM, WE COULD DO THE, WE COULD, UM, APPROVE THE MINUTES THAT ARE, WE'RE SO FAR BEHIND AND IMPROVE AND APPROVING.
UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THEM SEPARATE? I GUESS WE BETTER TAKE THEM SEPARATELY.
THEY SHOULD BE DONE SEPARATELY.
YOU WANT THOSE? UM, ARE THE SEPTEMBER 16TH MINUTES? YEAH.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM IF YOU HAVE NO CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS? UM, THEY HERE.
A MOTION TO ACCEPT SECOND PLEASE.
OCTOBER 23RD IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS, MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND? A, A SECOND.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I'LL MOVE.
THERE WERE, AARON, YOU'RE FIXING THEM WAS VERY GOOD.
ONE, UH, I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBER COR DESAI IS NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
AND THEN, BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING SOME NOTES.
SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND HAD HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY IS THAT THERE WERE NOTES, YOU KNOW, LIKE AI NOTES TAKEN OF THE MEETINGS AND THOSE WERE JUST SENT OFF TO THE BOARD, OBVIOUSLY NOT IN A FORMAT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS ACCEPTABLE AND, AND APPROPRIATE.
SO I TOOK THOSE MINUTES AND THEN UPDATED THEM ACCORDINGLY AFTER REVIEWING THE MEETING TAPES.
SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADOPTING THOSE THREE SETS OF MINUTES AND THOSE WILL BE POSTED TO THE WEBSITE AND AS PART OF OUR RESPONSE TO, UH, THE STATE'S EVALUATION WILL BE NOTIFYING THEM.
DID ANY OF YOU HAVE CORRESPONDENCE OR MEETINGS OR EMAILS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US? UH, NO, NOT REALLY.
I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING ACTUALLY TODAY, TODAY WE MISSED A PRESERVATION AND IF ANYBODY CAUGHT IT, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE CAUGHT THE, THE PRESERVATION, UM, SEMINAR ON ARTS AND CRAFTS, BUT I'M HOPING THEY RECORDED IT.
OH, PATTY CAN GET IT UP FOR YOU.
UM, OH, I DON'T THINK, WELL MAYBE, UM, LAST WEEK ARMENIA AND I AND AARON MET SO THAT WE DID SO, SO THAT WE COULD GET GORDON PLACE AND WOODLANDS AVENUE OFF THE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WEREN'T HOUSES THAT WE WERE GOING, WE WOULD THINK OF PRESERVING.
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ACTUALLY ADDITIONS.UM, SO AARON, YOU'RE GOING TO SEND A LETTER TO EACH OF THEM THE, WITH THE USUAL, USUAL FORMAT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE, UH, BEYOND WHAT YOU MENTIONED MADAM CHAIR, I DID GET COMMUNICATION BACK FROM 35 WOODLANDS AVENUE AND THEY DID PROVIDE THE CHAIN OF TITLE THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
UM, BACK TO THE HOUSE BUILD DATE.
THEY ALSO PROVIDED, UH, CONFIRMATION THAT THE PHOTOS SUPPLIED WERE OF THE BEDROOM AND BATHROOM PROPOSED FOR ALTERATION, MODIFICATION, ET CETERA.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE SENDING THE PHOTOS OF THE OTHER BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS. SO WE HAVE THOSE ON RECORD AND THEY'VE AGREED, AND I FORWARDED THEM THE LIST OF SALVAGE COMPANIES.
WHAT THEY DID MENTION, AND I HAVE THIS IN WRITING, IS THAT, UH, THOSE TWO RADIATORS THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT YESTERDAY MM-HMM
THEY'RE SEEKING TO REUTILIZE THOSE IN THE UPDATED SPACE AND ANYTHING IN TERMS OF ORIGINAL WINDOWS OR FLOORING OR UM, DOORS OR DOORKNOBS THAT THEY WOULD UTILIZE, UH, THE SALV, THE SALVAGE COMPANY'S LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED AND SUBMIT WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION TO THAT EFFECT FOR THE FILE.
UM, I GUESS YOU'VE, WITH THINGS AS THEY ARE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF TIGHTENING UP ON, UM, HOW PEOPLE RES HOW APPLICANTS RESPOND TO WHAT WE ARE ASKING OF THEM WE'RE, IT'S NOT ONEROUS, BUT UNLESS THEY GIVE US LETTERS FROM A SALVAGE COMPANY OR LETTERS FROM WHATEVER, WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING IF THEY'VE REALLY DONE WHAT WE HAVE ASKED AND THEY GET A BUILDING PERMIT AND THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT THE WORK WE PUT IN IS ACKNOWLEDGED AND NOT PUT INTO A LANDFILL.
UM, AARON, CAN YOU TELL ME IF THE TOWN BOARD GOT THE SHIPPO LETTER AND THE DOC AND THE SHIPPO DOCUMENTATION OF PROPERTY AND EASTON'S REPORT? TO MY KNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE, HOWEVER, I WILL CONFIRM WITH GARRETT, WELL, I'M GONNA JUMP OUT OF LINE FOR A SECOND AND HOPEFULLY I'LL BE POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I WAS NOT OVERWHELMED POSITIVELY WITH THE, UM, 55 GRASSLANDS ROAD PRESENTATION TO THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH ENDED ONLY ABOUT 15 MINUTES AGO.
HOW THEY READ AND INTERPRETED THE LETTER FROM THE STATE AND FROM EASTON IS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY I INTERPRET IT.
YES, THEY DID SUBMIT WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT TO THE STATE AND TO EASTON, BUT THEY CONTEND THEY BEING THE CONNECTIONS AND IT WAS THE LEGAL FIRM I BELIEVE THAT WAS THERE.
THEY CONTEND THAT EVERYBODY, WELL, THAT SHIPPO IS IN AGREEMENT, AGREEMENT THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THE BUILDING, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
HOWEVER,
SHIPPO SAID THAT DEMOLITION OF THE ITALIAN AID HOUSE IS AN IMPACT ON HISTORY, ON THE ENVIRONMENT, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DO NOT, UM, THE CONNECTIONS PRETTY WELL HAD THE TOWN BOARD CONVINCED THAT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO BECAUSE IT'S ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, ET CETERA, IS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY GARRETT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING THROUGHOUT THAT MEETING.
I FOUND IT INTERESTING ALSO, WHEN THEY WERE ASKED TO COMPARE PRICES AS WE ASKED THEM TO DO.
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THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE WERE TOLD WHEN THE LAWYER CAME TO US AND WE ASKED HIM AND WHAT THEY ADMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD.I, I THINK, AND MAYBE AARON WILL HELP ME DO THIS, WE NEED TO WRITE TO THE TOWN BOARD AND SUGGEST THAT THEY LOOK A LITTLE MORE DEEPLY INTO THE, UM, SALVAGE, REUSE, REPURPOSE, THEN DEMOLITION.
I THINK THEY MADE NO MENTION OF THE LETTERS AT ALL THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH IS MY, WHICH I QUESTIONED.
DID THEY SEE THEM OR DID THEY UNDERSTAND THEM? UM, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT, I'M, I'M NOT, I CAN'T TELL YOU I AM A HAPPY CAMPER IF YOU ALL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY OF ALL OF THESE LETTERS THAT HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH, ASK AARON OR KIRA OR PATTY TO GIVE YOU COPIES BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPORTANT.
UM, THE CONNECTIONS WE'RE TRYING TO PRESS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, THEY MENTIONED US SLIGHTLY AND I MEAN THAT, THAT THEY CAME BEFORE US, PERIOD.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ATTEND THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WOULD HOPE THAT CARL MIGHT BE OUR SPOKESPERSON SINCE HE CAN DESCRIBE THE BUILDING TO THE FINEST NAIL.
UM, AND THEN THE REST OF US CAN COME IN ON ZOOM OR CAN BE AT THE TOWN HALL.
I, I DON'T THINK THEY SET A DATE, ALTHOUGH I SORT OF GAVE UP ON THEM AT 10 MINUTES OF SEVEN.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD GOT ME THE DATE, I'LL TRY TO, YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE SURE TO, WELL, I'LL TRY TO SCHEDULE IT FOR MYSELF.
AARON, CAN WE FIND THAT OUT BY TOMORROW? YES.
OH, IS TOMORROW PLAN? NO, TOMORROW'S A TOWN BOARD MEETING, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THEY MIGHT SCHEDULE IT THEN, RIGHT? UM, IT'S POSSIBLE.
IT DOESN'T, ISN'T THE WAY IT WORKS.
LIKE, SO THEY HAD THE WORK SESSION TONIGHT.
WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO MAKE A RESOLUTION AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING TOMORROW TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING? IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? YES.
YEAH, THEY WOULD RIGHT THE HEARING, AARON, GO AHEAD.
THE HEARING WOULD NOT TAKE PLACE TOMORROW.
THEY WOULD JUST PASS A RESOLUTION TO SET IT FOR A FUTURE MEETING DATE, WHICH, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN TOMORROW.
AND FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW.
SO YEAH, I WILL, I WILL ALERT EVERYONE ON THAT.
LET ME GO BACK, LET ME GO BACK IN ORDER.
UM, I WILL BE VERY HONEST TO SAY THE LEAST.
I WAS VERY DISTURBED AT THAT MEETING THAT I WATCHED AND I TALKED TO THE SCREEN THE WHOLE TIME, UM, ON ARDSLEY ROAD.
I DO LOVE THAT HOUSE AND I DO KNOW IT.
I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT HEBER, THE SON WAS A, A GREENVILLE FIRE DE UH, FIREMAN AND HIS WIFE WAS THE SCHOOL NURSE WHEN MY CHILDREN WERE IN SCHOOL.
I MEAN, WE WEREN'T SOCIALLY FRIENDLY, BUT I DID GET TO SEE AT LEAST THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT HOUSE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
I JUST WANNA KNOW IF THE, UM, GARAGE IS WORTH SAVING AND PUTTING SOMEPLACE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE WE HAVE VERY FEW CATALOG ANYTHING IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
SO, MAY I HEAR ANY COMMENT SO QUICKLY I CAN GIVE AN UPDATE.
AND I THOUGHT, AND I THINK WE HAD SPOKEN YESTERDAY, I DID NOTIFY MR. KLEMMER ABOUT THE RESCHEDULING 'CAUSE HE WAS PREPARED TO COME IN JANUARY.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION HE WAS EITHER GOING TO SEEK TO ATTEND IN PERSON OR VIA ZOOM.
I DON'T SEE HIM ON THE ZOOM AND HE IS CERTAINLY NOT IN THE BUILDING OR IN THIS ROOM I SHOULD SAY.
UM, WHAT I WILL DO IS RELAY ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, ET CETERA, THAT THE BOARD, UH, ISSUES THIS EVENING.
SO INCLUDING THAT FIRST ONE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CATALOG GARAGE CAN BE, UM, DISMANTLED AND AND
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REPURPOSED ELSEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY.SO I WILL GET A RESPONSE IN WRITING.
WOULD YOU? AT LEAST AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
AND THERE ARE FIVE, FOUR OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, SO I NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU.
GIVEN THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE THAT HE HAS PROVIDED US WITH, I WONDER IF WE COULD SUGGEST THAT WE LANDMARK THAT HOUSE.
ANY THOUGHTS? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO OWNS A SEARS KID HOUSE WOULD WANT THE SEARS GARAGE BEHIND IT.
AND ANNETTE, ANNETTE, YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE STILL OUT IN MONTAUK, RIGHT? YEAH.
THERE'S A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SEARS KID HOUSES.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAS THE KIND OF PROPERTY THOUGH THAT THIS MAN HAS TO RELOCATE IT TO ONE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
NOT NONE OF THEM REALLY, BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE HAD, UH, CARPORTS, REMEMBER THEY ALL HAVE CARPORTS? YEAH.
OH, THEY WERE WITH THE CARPORTS.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER AREA DOWN THERE THAT, UM, IT'S 1866 ALAM.
AND YOU
NOW WHAT? THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, BUT NOT, IT'S NOT A SEARS HOUSE THOUGH.
CORRECT? THE GARAGE IS THE GARAGE IS A SEARS KIT HOUSE KIT.
AND WE HAVE SOMEWHERE IN POET'S CORNER, HERE'S THE GARAGE.
THERE'S A, UM, A SEARS OR A MONTGOMERY WARD HOUSE THERE.
IT'S CROSS FROM IN PARKWAY GARDENS.
THERE'S A SEARS HOUSE OR YOU KNOW, THE MIDDLE PORTION.
UM, MY SON IS IN ONE IN CHICAGO.
UM, AND THERE'S ONE MORE, BUT I CAN'T, UM, POET CORNER HAS BEEN VERY PROTECTIVE OF THAT HOUSE AND WILL NOT SHARE ITS ADDRESS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'S ONE MORE AND I CAN'T PUT MY FINGER ON IT IN OUR, BUT OTHER THAN THAT GARAGE, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE HERE.
I KNOW THE TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM ME, I THINK THOSE WERE WANAMAKER HOUSES.
CAN YOU FIND OUT? I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD HAVE THE RECORDS ON THEM.
BUT THEY REMEMBER THERE WAS THREE OF THEM.
THERE WAS ONE NEXT TO MY HOUSE THAT BURNED AND THEN THE NEXT TWO, EACH ONE WAS DIFFERENT.
EACH ONE WAS A DIFFERENT SIZE.
AND I THINK THEY WERE BUILT BY WANAMAKER.
THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW WHEN MY SON BOUGHT HIS HOUSE, THEY TURNED OVER THE PLANS AND THE CATALOG SO THAT HE HAD A REFERENCE TO IT AND HE MUST, I MEAN HE'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE 10TH OR 11TH OR 12TH OWNER HE WAS, YOU KNOW.
UM, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ASKING MR. KLEMMER IF HE COULD BE AT ALL INTERESTED IN LANDMARKING? I WAS SITTING IN THE TOWN HALL MEETING.
OH, WHERE ARE YOU? WHY IS PAUL FINER HERE?
SO I THINK, ARE YOU MR. CLEMMER? YES.
AARON, HOW ARE YOU? PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
SO I THINK WE CAN, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
WE MAY NOT WANNA START WITH THAT NECESSARILY
AND THEN, UH, MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PIECE.
MR. KLEMMER, IS THE GARAGE IN, CAN IT BE DECONSTRUCTED AND PUT SOMEPLACE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY? NO, IT'S IN REALLY ROUGH SHAPE.
SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S IN ROUGH SHAPE AND IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT IN A, IT IS NOT IN A GREAT LOCATION AND IT'S IN VERY ROUGH SHAPE AND IT'S, IT DOESN'T SERVE OUR PURPOSES VERY WELL.
IT'S PRETTY SMALL, SO, BUT IT, YEAH.
GARDEN SHED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE ON THE PROPERTY IT WOULD FIT.
IT'S A BIG, IT'S 22 BY 26 FEET, SO IT'S KIND OF A BIG FOOTPRINT.
UM, AND IT'S NOT ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE.
I THINK I SH I TRIED TO SEND SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHOWED YES, WHAT WAS ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE IS LONG GONE.
SO IT'S JUST, I DO, I DO A LOT OF RESTORATIONS MYSELF.
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AS A BUSINESS.AND I PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO BUILDINGS THAT HAVE MERIT
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THIS IS ONE THAT BEARS A LOT OF EFFORT.
I I I MY ONLY SUGGEST THIS 'CAUSE WE ARE VERY SHORT ON CATALOG HOUSES.
I CAN NAME A COUPLE, ANNETTE CAN NAME A COUPLE.
UM, ARMENIA, WHAT IDEA DID YOU HAVE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE IT? IF YOU HAVE A SIR, THERE'S PROBABLY ORGANIZATIONS OF THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE SEARS KIT HOUSES IN MONTAUK.
THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THEM, BUT ANNETTE IS FAMILIAR WITH MONTAUK, BUT SHE'S SAYING THE LOTS ARE VERY SMALL.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT IF THERE WAS AN ABILITY TO DE IF IT WAS A KIT AND THE KIT COULD BE, UH, DECONSTRUCTED THE WAY IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY IN THAT, UM, FAMILY OF HOMES THAT MIGHT WANT A SEARS KIT GARAGE.
IS THERE'S THE ONE STEVENS LANE, UH, THAT GONE BY THE BETHELS MOLES IS ACTUALLY, THAT'S A 1950S SEARS KID HOUSE.
WELL IT, THIS IT WAS THE CARETAKER'S HOUSE OF THE, WE BROUGHT THIS INTO THE ST.
THIS IS, WE'VE ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT TO THE WORK SECTION.
ARE YOU OKAY TO, WE CAN WAIT IF YOU NEED, BUT WE JUST HEARD SEARS' KIDS.
NO, IT, WE FOUND IT FASCINATING THAT, THAT SHE'S, SO THIS THERE'S NOT MANY THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
SO THIS IS THE, THE TOWN WORK SESSION TO SHOW THEM A COUPLE THINGS AND YOU CAN GET THE OTHER ONE, HUN.
THE, THE ONE OF THE HISTORIC HOUSE.
THIS IS A SHACK THAT'S NEXT TO US THAT THE K KNOWLES HASN'T MAINTAINED.
AND SO WE HAVE THIS AS A VISUAL WHILE WE WERE SITTING THERE.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A SEARS KIT HOME.
SO YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT SEARS KITS AND EVERYTHING.
THE MAINTENANCE, UH, MANAGER OF THE HEBREW HOME, WHO WAS THE SEARS LOOK THERE, BUT THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS OUR VISUAL TO SHOW THEM VERSUS THIS.
WE, WE MADE THIS FOR YOU GUYS.
THIS IS A KIND OF OUR, OUR GIFT.
I DON'T KNOW IF AARON, YOU COULD KEEP IT IN THE OFFICE.
THIS, UH, JUST BASICALLY OF ALL S**T, YOU COULD HAVE A NICE PHOTO IF YOU NEED A, THAT I TOOK DURING THE WINTER TIME.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR YOU GUYS.
WE WANT TO LEAVE IT WITH YOU IN THE OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT UP TO UM, ALL OF THIS YET.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH, WITH, UM, MR. KLEMMER'S GARAGE
THE SIDING AND THE ROOFER SHOT SO THAT IT TO BE RE CLAD AND IT WOULD'VE TO BE RE-ROOFED.
IT WAS IN, IT WAS SHOT WHEN I BOUGHT IT AND IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
I'VE PUT UP THIS PROJECT OFF FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UM, BUT THE, IF ANYBODY WANTED IT, ABSOLUTELY.
AND FRANKLY, I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF WAYS TO USE THAT LUMBER USE WHATEVER LUMBER'S, SALVAGEABLE WITHIN IT.
CONSTRUCTION IS A BARBARIC INDUSTRY STILL, AND WE THROW AWAY TONS OF STUFF.
I'M IN CONSTRUCTION IN NEW YORK CITY.
UM, AND SO I, I DON'T WANNA WASTE ANYTHING, BUT THAT SAID, THIS DOESN'T FIT A CAR.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH.
OH NO, I UN I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I, AND, AND WE REALLY FEEL THAT WE DON'T AS A, AS A BOARD, I BELIEVE WE FEEL THAT WE DON'T WANNA FILL UP THE LANDFILL WITH THINGS THAT CAN BE REPURPOSED, SALVAGED, SOLD, REUSED, WHATEVER.
UM, I REALLY, WELL, I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU TO THINK AND GET AHOLD OF AARON, WHO CAN THEN GET AHOLD OF ME AND WE CAN, THE BOARD AND I CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, IF, IF THERE'S A MEANS OF HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN AND TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS, I'D GO FOR THAT.
SO LET'S ALL EXPLORE THAT AND, AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY REACH BASED ON YOUR PROFESSION AND WHAT YOU DO IN THE BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME CONTACTS OR? WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT, SO I, I'M JUST HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME.
I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
WE RESTORED, WE, WE RESTORED THE MORGAN LIBRARY.
SO IT DOESN'T QUITE FIT WITH I UNDERSTAND THIS IN, IN EXACTLY, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO THROW IT AWAY.
UM, AND LET'S SEE IF SOMEBODY WANTS IT.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD FACILITATE THAT ANYWAY WE COULD.
THE NEXT THING, I'M SORRY, CARL, WE'VE GOT THAT.
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IS A, AN ORGANIZATION OR THERE WAS AT ONE TIME, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I SAW IT.MAYBE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE.
THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAD, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER ABOUT THE SEARS HOUSES.
WE CAN, WE CAN DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME SOMEBODY WHO'D BE INTERESTED.
MATT, UM, ARMENIA, DIDN'T HE? YAP PLANK ALSO HAVE SEARS HOUSES.
I KNOW THAT THE ENTIRETY OF THE EAST HAMPTON TOWN HALL WAS DEDICATED BY A WOMAN WHOSE ALL THE BUILDINGS, ALL THE OUTBUILDINGS ON HER PROPERTY WERE DONATED TO THE EAST HAMPTON TOWN, UH, TOWN BOARD IN THE TOWN HALL.
AND THEY CONNECTED EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS TO MAKE NEW OFFICES.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A PROBABLY ATTACHED, WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SEARS KID HOUSE ORGANIZATION OR YOU, YOU PROBABLY DO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS THAT KIND OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD WANT TO COME AND CLAIM IT, BUT HAPPY TO, WE HAVE TIME.
I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO EXPLORE THIS.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TO ASK YOU.
AND UM, I SEE THAT THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE CINDER BLOCK FOUNDATION ON WHICH THIS IS SITTING.
IS THAT CORRECT? I HAVE, WE HAVE PHOTOS.
THAT'S ANOTHER BUILDING THAT'S NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL KIT, CORRECT? NO.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE, YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING AWAY WITH AS WELL? YES.
AND THEN AND REPURPOSING THAT AREA FOR THE PURPOSE, ARE YOU PUTTING ANOTHER STRUCTURE ON THAT? THERE MIGHT BE A POOL.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT IN THE FINANCIAL CARDS
SO IT'S, BUT THE NEW GARAGE IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
SO THEN IF THIS WERE DECONSTRUCTED, THE CINDER BLOCK FOUNDATION WOULDN'T BE WITH THAT.
SO THERE, JUST FOR THE BOARD'S INFORMATION, SO THERE'S AN APPLICATION BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TRENDING TOWARDS A DECISION AT SOME POINT.
BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THIS MEETING OKAY.
SO ON THE PLANS, OUR NEW GARAGE, UM, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF A MOTOR COURT AREA, SO TO SPEAK.
AND THEN THE POOL AREA SHOWN ON THE PLANS AS WELL.
AND IF ALL THAT'S APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, IT'S VALID FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THERE ARE EXTENSIONS POSSIBILITIES THAT UP.
AND HOW LARGE IS THE FOOTPRINT OF MR. KLEMMER'S PROPERTY? IT'S 1.7 ACRES.
BUT THERE, THERE ARE SLOPED AREAS.
WE HAD ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR BRIEF DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WITH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
AND WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT THERE BE A LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY TO RELOCATE IT, DO IT SLOPES DOWN TOWARDS ARLEY ROAD.
AND THEN EVEN IN THE BACK THERE ARE SLOPED AREAS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FLAT AREAS.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT FIT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BACKYARD
SO I THINK AN OPTION IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, USE OUR RESOURCES, OUR COLLECTIVE RESOURCES TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO COME TAKE IT AND REPURPOSE IT ELSEWHERE.
I, I THINK THAT'S, THERE IS JUST, THAT WOULD BE, JUST TO FULL TRANSPARENCY, THERE IS A ROTTED CELL IN, IN AREAS.
SO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WILDLIFE HAS GOT FULL ACCESS AND THE CLAPPER SIDING IS KIND OF BUCKLED.
IT'S, IT WAS A VERY THIN CLAPPER SIDING.
SO THE, IF SOMETHING'S USABLE, I IMAGINE THE FRAME MIGHT BE USABLE, REPLACED THE SILLS, THE WHATEVER, ROTTED ENDS OF STUDS.
BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A PRISTINE SEARS GARAGE THAT YOU COULD UNBOLT AND PUT ON A TRUCK.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE PICTURES OF IT.
BUT YEAH, WASTE, WASTE NOT, I'M HAPPY TO FACILITATE THAT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL WORK ON IT IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
UM, MR. KLEMMER, HAVE YOU EVER GIVEN THOUGHT TO, EXCUSE ME, WHEN DID YOU BUY THE HOUSE? MAY I ASK PLEASE? 2004.
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF LANDMARKING IT, THE HOUSE, NOT THE GARAGE.
AND AS I HAD TOLD THIS BOARD, ANN WAS A SCHOOL NURSE WHEN MY CHILDREN WERE IN SCHOOL.
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A LONG TIME AGO.UM, THAT WOULD, IF, IF IT WERE LANDMARKED AND IF, IF IT WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, IF YOU NEEDED NEW LEADERS AND GUTTERS, YOU PROBABLY COULD GET A GRANT FOR IT, BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD KEEP THE HOUSE.
UM, THE DOWNSIDE IS THERE WOULDN'T, COULD NEVER BE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE HOUSE.
I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER LOOKED INTO IT.
I KNOW HE JUST, I JUST WANNA PASS ALONG THE THOUGHT BECAUSE I COME FROM THE AREA I'VE LIVED IN, UM, LIVED IN, I DO STILL LIVE IN EDGEMONT CLOSE TO 58 YEARS, I THINK.
UM, BUT I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THE HOUSE AND LOVED IT.
SO I'LL LEAVE THAT THOUGHT ALONG WITH THE GARAGE IN YOUR MIND.
I USED TO LIVE ON OLD ARMY ROAD.
CAN I TELL YOU A VERY, VERY QUICK FUNNY STORY? SURE.
I USED TO LIVE AT 2 37 OLD ARMY ROAD.
I, I'VE ALWAYS ADMIRED THE HOUSE.
I KNEW TILLY DUNO, BUT I'D NEVER BEEN INSIDE THE HOUSE.
AND THEN I WAS A CONTRACTOR AND I SOLD ALL MY TOOLS OUTTA MY DRIVEWAY ON THE CORNER OF MOUNT JOY AND, UM, OLD ARMY AND HEBERT DUNKEL CAME AND INTRODUCED HIMSELF AS TILLY'S SON.
I KNEW TILLY FROM THE CHURCH, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HIM.
AND HE BOUGHT ALL MY LOLLY COLUMNS, BOUGHT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, BUT HE BOUGHT ALL MY LOLLY COLUMNS.
SO I SAID, OH, THAT HOUSE MUST HAVE TROUBLE.
SO THEN FAST FORWARD, YOU KNOW, IT'S 15 YEARS LATER AND I SEE THE HOUSE HAS BEEN ON AND OFF THE MARKET FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
I THINK IT WAS ON THE MARKET FOR FOUR YEARS.
SO DEALS KEPT GOING THROUGH AND I FINALLY SAID ONE OF MY SISTERS BOUGHT A HOUSE.
I SAID, I SHOULD LOOK AT THAT HOUSE.
I WENT THERE AND THE REAL ESTATE AGENT SAID, WELL, COME, COME WITH ME, FOLLOW ME.
AND I GO, NO, I'M GOING TO THE BASEMENT.
SO I WENT IMMEDIATELY TO THE BASEMENT.
I BOUGHT BACK ALL MY LOLLY COLUMNS.
THEY'RE ALL HOLDING UP THE CENTER WALL AT THE STAIRWAY.
UM, BUT I SAW EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.
AND THE, THE HOUSE WAS NOT IN AS BAD A SHAPE AS I HAD ASSUMED WHEN HE BOUGHT THE LOLLY COLUMNS.
BUT I'D GOT ALL MY LOLLY COLUMNS BACK,
AND THE OTHER THING IS, WE ONLY GOT THE HOUSE.
IT FELL THROUGH SO MANY TIMES, BUT MY CHILDREN WERE ALL AT EDGEMONT AND ANN DUNKLE KNEW THEM AND SHE SAID, THIS IS, THESE KIDS ARE GOOD KIDS.
AND HEBERT JUST SAID HE WAS TIRED OF HAVING DEALS FALL THROUGH.
I HAD A, ALL THE NAMES YOU MENTIONED HAVE PLAYED INTO THE STORY.
I HAD A FEELING THAT I RECOGNIZED YOUR NAME AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.
I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LONG TIME.
AND IF YOU WERE ON OLD ARMY ROAD, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE PRESIDENT OF THE OLD EDGEMONT ASSOCIATION AND ECC, SO YES.
IF, IF, HAVE WE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MRS. DO MR. NEXT DOOR TO MRS. THE PIANO PLAYER, FORGETTING HER NAME, BUT SHE WAS, SHE WAS GREAT.
SHE'S AN OLD ARMY ROAD ADDRESS.
NO, I THINK NOT HELPING ME AT THE MOMENT.
AARON, CAN WE WRITE A LETTER, AN APPROPRIATE LETTER FOR MR. KLEMMER? UM, PUTTING IN, IF WE CAN, IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE GARAGE OFF HIS HANDS AND THAT PERHAPS HE WOULD LIKE TO IN THE FUTURE, LANDMARK THE HOUSE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE INCLUDED? UH, NO, I, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING FURTHER.
I'LL DRAFT SOMETHING UP AND AND SHARE IT WITH YOU.
I THINK, I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, MR. CLEMMER, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMING.
I'M GLAD I FOUND THE RIGHT ROOM.
IT WAS JUST, I, I FINALLY REALIZED THAT THEY WERE NOT
IS THAT, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE'RE ALL SET.
FOR I, NEXT ON OUR LIST IS OLD WHITE PLAINS ROAD, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON ZOOM.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND UNFORTUNATELY I GOT THE EMAIL AT SEVEN 15 FOR A SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING.
SO I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY THE PERSON THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THIS CALL, BUT I AM THE RESPONSIBLE ONE.
I HAVE MY DAUGHTER IN THE BATHTUB, SO IF YOU HEAR ANY CRAZY NOISES THAT'S, UM, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
I DON'T, I, I, I, I BELIEVE ERIN, THAT A LETTER WAS SENT TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
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THERE WAS A MEETING PREVIOUSLY AND THERE WAS A SITE VISIT AS I UNDERSTAND IT.BEFORE MY IN DIRECT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE BOARD, UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IN FACT, IN OUR MINUTES THAT WERE ADOPTED THIS EVENING, THERE WAS SOME COMMENTARY.
AND IN FACT, I'LL, I'LL GRAB A SET OF THE MINUTES FROM ANNETTE AND JUST RECITE THAT ALL THREE ARE FINE.
THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.
SO I'M JUST GONNA RECITE THOSE.
AND I DO THINK THEY WERE, WAS THE LETTER SENT AARON TO THEM ABOUT WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING THAT BE SALVAGED? SO LET ME, I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
LET ME RECITE THE MINUTES 'CAUSE IT'S A SUMMARY.
AND THIS IS FROM THE OCTOBER 23RD, 2025 MEETING.
SO AS PER NOW THE APPROVED MINUTES, UM, ON SUCH DATE, THE BOARD DISCUSSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE FORMER STAGE COACH PROPERTY, NOTING THAT WHILE IT HAS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT ITS CURRENT CONDITION AND THE INVOLVEMENT OF VARIOUS HISTORICAL SOCIETIES IN ITS PRESERVATION.
H AND LPB MEMBERS DISCUSSED NEXT STEPS, INCLUDING ONE, THE BOARD WOULD SEEK TO CONTACT THE TERRYTOWN VILLAGE CLERK'S OFFICE REGARDING THE HISTORIC SOCIETY INFORMATION, WHICH AS I UNDERSTAND IT WAS DONE.
HOWEVER, THERE'S BEEN DIFFICULTY IN ACTUALLY REACHING THE HISTORIC SOCIETY.
SO OUR OFFICE MANAGER IS GOING TO BE TAKING THAT ON FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND OF OUR DISCUSSION YESTERDAY TO SEE, UM, BECAUSE CONTACT WAS MADE, NUMBER TWO WITH, UM, NEW YORK STATE, BOTH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WHO HAVE BOTH INDICATED THAT THEY DID NOT PLACE THE SIGN THERE.
THERE IS ALSO, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT A THIRD EMAIL FROM NEW YORK STATE.
I'M NOT SURE IF HE GOT THAT ONE.
AND THEY CAN'T FIND ANYTHING EITHER.
SO I DID FORWARD AFTER THIS PACKAGE, AN ADDITIONAL EMAIL TO MATT REGARDING, THEY FINALLY GOT BACK TO ME.
I REACHED OUT TO, TO I THINK THREE JURISDICTIONS.
THERE WAS LIKE THE TERRYTOWN, THE WESTCHESTER, AND THERE WAS A NEW YORK STATE FEDERAL, LIKE THE HIGHEST LEVEL I COULD, I GOT AN EMAIL AND A CALL INTO 'EM.
AND MONTHS AND MONTHS LATER, I ACTUALLY DID GET A RESPONSE BACK.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, EVERYBODY WAS, WAS RESPONSIVE.
UM, SO I WAS PROVIDED THAT EMAIL.
UM, THEY, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO LOCATE ANYTHING EITHER.
AND I THINK THEY GAVE ME SOME DOCUMENT AND NOTHING WAS INDICATED FOR THIS PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THAT'S DIFFICULTY OF BINDING ANYTHING.
PRETTY, THAT SIGN HAS BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
IT WAS WAY BEFORE BRIGHTVIEW WAS EVEN BUILT.
IF YOU, I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE, ARE AWARE AND YOU'VE DONE ALL KINDS OF RESEARCH ON THESE SIGNS AND THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION, BUT IN THE SIXTIES YOU CAN BASICALLY PAY FOR THEM AND IT, A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IT'S A LOT OF THE, THE EXPLANATION THAT I GOT FROM NEW YORK, THE DEPARTMENT, NEW YORK STATE, THAT THERE WASN'T MUCH, UH, THERE WASN'T MANY PEOPLE WATCHING, SO THEY WEREN'T VERY HARD TO GET.
SO APPARENTLY SOME PEOPLE DID GET THEM AND SOME HELD TRUE.
AND THE, YOU KNOW, THI THIS I FEEL IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT JUST MAY HAVE JUST KIND OF SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS.
WE'VE DONE CHAIN OF RESEARCH AS DEEDS AS FAR AS IT CAN GO.
WE PAID MONEY TO, TO HAVE THEM RESEARCH AS FAR AS ANYBODY CAN FIND.
AND IT'S VERY HARD TO, TO, TO FIND ANYTHING.
I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I'M AN ARCHITECT AS WELL AND I'M PRESERVED AND DONE WORKED WITH LANDMARKS PRESERVATION ON MULTIPLE PROJECTS.
I DID THE WILLIAMSBURG SAVINGS MAKING IN BROOKLYN.
I'VE DONE MY SHARE OF, AND I FOUND AND WORKED WITH MANY PEOPLE AND FOUND INFORMATION HERE.
SO OTHER THAN THIS BUILDING THAT I'M LEFT WITH, THAT'S BASICALLY FALLING DOWN WHERE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE, SURE.
YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY MADE CONTACT WITH CERTAIN PARTIES AND OR AGENCIES.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE TARRYTOWN HISTORICAL SOCIETY? YES, I'VE HAD ALL THREE.
SO THE TERRYTOWN HISTORICAL SOCIETY WAS THE FIRST GUY THAT GOT BACK TO ME AND THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE.
SO BASED ON THE MEETING AND THE THE SITE MEETING, WE HAD A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND WE, WE RESPONDED TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND I THINK THAT OUR RESPONSE, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, FOR MORE.
SO THE, THE GUY FROM TERRYTOWN WAS ABLE TO DIG UP SOME CHAIN OF TITLE FOR ME, WHATEVER WAS ABLE, HE CAN FIND ONLINE.
HE SENT WHATEVER CLIPPINGS HE WAS ABLE TO FIND.
SO I, I USED THAT INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND,
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UM, WE HAD SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.WE, WE DID ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS OR ASKED FOR, UH, AND THEN AT THIS POINT, SO WE DID THE CHAIN OF TITLE AND THE CHAIN OF TITLE, UH, SEARCH, WHICH WAS DONE WITH THE BIO PROFESSIONAL.
DO YOU, DO YOU RECALL THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME THAT DID THE TITLE SEARCH? NO.
THAT YOU CONTACTED IN TERRYTOWN AND IT WAS, I I HAD EMAILS.
AND IT WAS TARRYTOWN THAT YOU SPOKE TO? NOT TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS TARRYTOWN.
UH, I FOR SURE WESTCHESTER AND THEN ACTUAL NEW YORK STATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A LIST OF THESE SIGNS IN EACH ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT HAS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND LIKE WE, WE JUST CAN'T FIND THIS SIGN LISTED FOR, FOR FEDERALLY IN ANY OF THEIR LISTINGS.
IT'S ON THE HISTORICAL, I FOUND IT.
IT'S ON, IT'S ON ONE OF THE NEW YORK STATE, UM, UH, SITES.
IT, IT'S THERE AND IT, IT'S, IT'S, I HAVE THIS INFORMATION AS WELL AS ALL PART OF MY PACKAGE.
I HAVE A COMPLETE DOCUMENT THAT WE SENT IN.
I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY EXTENSIVE.
THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR FINDINGS.
SO IF YOU FIND SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T FIND OR ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, OTHER PROFESSIONALS THAT I HIRED COULDN'T FIND, PLEASE SHARE IT.
UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THIS MEETING.
I WAS HONESTLY, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK THAT THIS MEETING WAS HAPPENING TODAY.
TWO, UH, TWO COMMENT, TWO FOLLOW UP COMMENTS.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU JUMPING ON, ON THE SHORT NOTICE.
ONE, IF YOU COULD FORWARD ME THAT EMAIL, I'LL, I'LL EMAIL YOU EITHER, UH, TONIGHT OR IN THE MORNING SO YOU HAVE MY DIRECT CONTACT INFORMATION.
I RECENTLY TOOK OVER STAFFING THE BOARD, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A FULL PACKAGE.
IT COULD CERTAINLY BE IN OUR RECORDS, BUT, UH, IF I GET IT DIRECTLY, I CAN FORWARD IT ALONG TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND THEN SECOND POINT I WANTED TO MAKE OR QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK WOULD BE WHO SPECIFICALLY IN TERRYTOWN AT THE TERRYTOWN HISTORICAL SOCIETY THAT YOU COMMUNICATED WITH AND OR RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
OKAY, I'LL, I'LL, YEAH, I'LL LOOK INTO TO THAT.
I DID SPEAK TO THREE, AND MAYBE I MISSPOKE, TERRYTOWN, MAYBE IT WAS
I DID SPEAK TO THREE SEPARATE PEOPLE REGARDING, UH, THE INFORMATION AND, UM, OKAY.
UM, SO YEAH, SO I, UM, YEAH, I SPOKE TO THERESA, THE PEOPLE.
UH, I, I, I DID, YOU KNOW, MY DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, I WILL SEND YOU THE COMPLETE PACKAGE.
I'LL FORWARD YOU ALL OF THE EMAILS.
UH, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY ASSISTANCE YOU CAN GIVE US.
YOU KNOW, MY CLIENT IS, IS, IS LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, HE WILL, YOU KNOW, I, DURING THE MEETING, I THINK THEY ASK THAT, LISTEN, NOT ONLY IS THERE THIS KIND OF THING THAT WE'RE CALLING THE STAGE COACH STOP.
UM, IF, IF YOU LOOK BACK IT SAYS 16 SOMETHING LIKE 1640.
IF, IF ANYTHING WAS MADE OUT OF WOOD OR ANYTHING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED AT THAT TIME, IT, IT, IT'S, IT CAN'T STILL EXIST.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE WAS IN 16, IN THE 1640S, THE DUTCH AND UNIONS ARE FIGHTING IN UH, UH, UH, MANHATTAN.
SO THAT LONG AGO WE FEEL THAT THIS BUILDING IS NOT WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS IT IS.
I WISH IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BUT MY OWNER, THE OWNER WILL SELL GIVEAWAY, SALVAGE, WHATEVER HE CAN, BUT WE DEMOED THE WALLS AND WE LOOKED INSIDE IT.
AND THIS THING IS, IS, IS IS IT'S DUST IN THERE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING TO, UM, THERE'S A BACK PORTION.
THERE'S MANY OUTHOUSES AND GARAGES THAT HAVE SINCE FALLEN DOWN.
UM, THERE'S JUST A KIND OF CHAPEL SORT OF THING.
A LOT OF BRICK WORK THAT SEEMS TO BE BACK THERE.
I THINK WE'RE ASKED TO KIND OF SAVE OR, OR GIVE AWAY ALL OF THAT.
I THINK THAT THEY, THEY'LL, THEY'RE WILLING TO DO ALL OF THE ABOVE AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE.
AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO TO, TO MAKE ANY MONEY ON ANY OF THIS STUFF.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY JUST REALLY WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME IN THE WINTER.
WELL, NOBODY CAN, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY DO WORK AND RESOLVE AND MOVE FORWARD WHEN THE WEATHER CLEARS AND BE ABLE TO START WORK THERE.
'CAUSE MY CLIENT HAS BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY HE HAS BEEN AT A STANDSTILL FOR, FOR MONTHS NOW.
CAN I JUST RECITE THE LAST PORTION OF THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER? 'CAUSE IT SPEAKS TO SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED.
SO, UM, FOR MR. MARINO'S INFORMATION, SO IT SAYS HERE THAT ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2025, THE BOARD REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT ENSURE THAT THE
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EXISTING BRICKS AND STONES ON THE SITE BE REPURPOSED OR, AND OR SOLD BUT NOT BE DISPOSED OF.THE BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT THE APPLICANT HAVE AN ANTIQUE EXPERT EVALUATE THE REMAINING ARTIFACTS ON THE PROPERTY.
THE BOARD REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE WRITTEN CONFIRMATION THAT THE STAINED GLASS WILL BE REPURPOSED.
THE BOARD REQUEST THAT THAT ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SITE AND VARIOUS STRUCTURES BE PROVIDED.
WE CAN PROVIDE ALL OF THE ABOVE.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING.
THIS SIGN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STUFF THE OTHER BUILDING, LIKE, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEPARATE AND YEAH, THEY'RE SEPARATE, BUT THEY'RE ON THE SAME PROGRESS.
SO THERE ARE HISTORIC ASPECTS.
WELL, THE SIGN SPEAKS OF THE STAGE COACH AND THE BUILDING IN FRONT.
IT DOESN'T SPEAK OF ANY BUILDINGS BEHIND YOU.
I, UH, LET ME, UH, BACK UP WHAT AARON IS SAYING.
UM, THERE ARE FIRST OF ALL LIKE A CHAPEL TYPE OF THING.
I'M ALSO GONNA TRY TO FIND OUT WITH ANNETTE'S HELP, UM, WHAT CHURCH USED IT OR WHO USED IT OR WHATEVER.
BUT ANNETTE AND I WILL WORK ON THAT TOGETHER.
UM, I'VE NEVER SEEN A CHAIN OF TITLES, SO I'D BE VERY INTERESTED GOING BACK AS FAR AS LAND RECORDS AND WHITE PLAINS HAS, I'VE NEVER SEEN, AND THIS COULD DEFINITELY BE ME.
I'M WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT BLAME.
I'VE NEVER SEEN PLANS ON WHAT THIS AREA, THIS, THIS SITE WILL BE TURNED INTO.
BECAUSE IF IT'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING, THE BRICK COULD BE USED.
NO, WE DON'T MIND DOING THAT E EITHER.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE BRICK, THE BRICK IS IN GOOD SHAPE AND YOU KNOW, I'M INSTRUCTED WHOEVER DID THAT.
IT'S NOT, IT WASN'T EASY TO DO.
I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT BELITTLE ANY OF IT, BUT WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PRELIMINARY PLANS.
WE DO HAVE SITE PLAN, WE DO HAVE A MEMO.
I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UM, THIS DOCUMENT.
NOW WE DO, I WANTED TO SEE HOW FAR THE CHAIN OF TITLE GOES.
I HAVE A HISTORICAL MARKERS LISTING.
I HAVE A MEMO, I HAVE CHAIN OF TITLE HERE THAT GOES BACK AND IT HAS, IT HAS, SO IT HAS SOME SORT OF A INDEX AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOES BACK TO WHERE IS A YEAR 1847.
SO ALL THAT INFORMATION'S GONNA BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO OBTAIN AND CIRCULATE TO THE BOARD.
NO, I, I'M, I, THERE'S UH, THAT I'M HAPPY I JUMPED ON.
DID WE HAVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO TALK TO PEOPLE TOO INSTEAD OF, WE HAVE A TON OF INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL ME.
THERE'S A WELL ON THE PROPERTY, CHRIS, THAT YEAH, I WAS THERE.
I I'VE, I'VE SEEN WHAT'S IN THE WELL WATER.
I LOOK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT NECESSARILY I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, UM, I, I SO THERE'S MULTIPLE, THERE'S ACTUALLY KIND OF TWO, BUT THERE, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE IS A, THERE IS A REAL WELL THERE.
THAT HAS LIKE A PLATE OR COVER.
THE OTHER ONE THERE IS LIKE SOME SORT OF FOUNTAIN TYPE OF THING THERE.
UM, I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THAT CARL.
DIDN'T YOU SAY IT WAS A WELL, NO, I, THAT WAS FOR A DIFFERENT PROPERTY.
BUT I KNOW THERE IS ONE THERE.
YEAH, THERE'S LIKE A, THERE'S NEW, IT'S GOT STONE AROUND IT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING WHERE THE CHARCOAL THING WAS.
THAT'S NOT, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST DECORATIVE, LIKE LITTLE PIAZZA.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY OWNS THAT CHURCH.
I REMEMBER GOING THERE AS A KID WITH MY GREAT AUNT, MY GREAT UNCLE ANNETTE.
WERE, WAS, WERE SERVICES HELD THERE.
NOT REALLY, IT WAS A PRIVATE TYPE SITUATION WHERE YOU COULD GO IN AND YOU COULD LIGHT A CANDLE AND PEOPLE, PEOPLE WOULD, YOU KNOW, RANDOMLY GO.
UM, BUT WHO PUT IT THERE? THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THE PLACE AT THE TIME.
UM, OKAY, I, AARON, I THINK WE NEED THE DATA THAT I THINK WE NEED, UM, THE RIGHT PERSON TO, UM, GIVE US SOME DATES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THINGS WERE DONE WITHOUT THE BLESSING OF EITHER TARRYTOWN OR GREENBURG.
AND THERE'S A, THERE YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S HISTORY THERE OF LIKE LAYERS OF BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW,
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THE, EVEN THE NEWER BUILDINGS ARE, ARE, THE ROOF HAS COLLAPSED.AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY, IT'S TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ALSO, LIKE I WENT BACK THERE AND IT WAS IN THE SUMMERTIME AND IS LIKE, YOU'RE IN THE JUNGLE.
THERE'S LIKE RACCOONS AND STUFF.
IT IS, IT'S NOT SAFE, YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT'LL BE NICE TO GET THAT CLEANED OUT AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT JUST LOOKS REALLY RUN DOWN AND THERE'S LIKE FURNITURE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND I DIDN'T, I WAS KIND OF GROSSED OUT WALKING THROUGH THERE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WELL, BUT THE HOUSE ITSELF HAS THINGS IN IT.
IT'S GOT A SAFE THAT I'M SURE IS OLDER THAN I AM.
IT'S, THERE SEEMS TO BE LIKE A BED UP THERE OR SOMETHING.
WELL, I DON'T CARE ABOUT BEDS, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THE FLOORBOARDS WERE.
LIKE I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THIS WHOLE PROPERTY IS A STRAIGHT DEMO.
IT MIGHT, SOME OF IT MIGHT NEED DECONSTRUCTING.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE BRICK OR SELL THE BRICK TO SOMEBODY, YOU JUST CAN'T BRING A BULLDOZER IN AND KNOCK DOWN THOSE WALLS.
'CAUSE THE BRICK WON'T TAKE IT.
AND SO WE NEED, LISTEN, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT I GREW UP IN, THE BRICK COME FROM THE OLD COLONY CLUB IN ROCHELLE OR ONE OF THOSE CLUBS THAT BURNT DOWN.
WE TOOK THE CHIMNEYS, I CLEANED THE BRICK WITH MY OWN HANDS.
I KNOW, UH, AS A KID I SPENT THE WHOLE SUMMER CLEANING BRICK.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE ABOVE.
UH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THAT FAR AND DECONSTRUCT THIS, UH, CHAPEL THING, UM, SO GOES THE HOUSE, UH, WHATEVER THE STRUCTURE THAT'S THERE, UH, WELL, THEY'LL DO THEIR BEST.
UM, BUT I THINK, CHRIS, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I THINK THE OWNER KNEW THAT BACK IN OCTOBER.
NO, WE'RE AWARE OF THE PROCESS.
WE'RE AWARE OF ALL OF THE ABOVE.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THE GREEN LIGHT TO DO IT.
WELL, YOU NEED TO GET A PERSON TO, UM, AND THAT PERSON HAS TO BE APPROVED OF BY THE TOWN TO IDENTIFY AND ATTEMPT TO DATE SOME OF THESE MATERIALS.
I MEAN, SO I MEAN, CAN, WHEN YOU, LIKE, IF IT'S THE BRICK, LIKE SO, BUT LIKE THE IDEA IS TO GET RID OF EVERYTHING, UH, UH, LIKE LEVEL THE LOT AND PUTS I, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HE WANTS TO BUILD THERE.
THE, THE, THE MATERIAL THAT, THAT THE BRICK IS THE BRICK.
SO, WE'LL WE, WE WILL HAVE A STACK OF BRICKS.
WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE WINDOWS WILL BE SAVED.
UM, THE, THE LISTEN, THIS CHAPEL IS FAIRLY SMALL TOO.
IT'S NOT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THE SAME WITH THE HOUSE.
LIKE I GUESS WE'LL REMOVE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SHEET ROCK IN THERE TO SEE KIND OF WHAT'S BEHIND IT.
UM, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I THINK THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO START TO DO SOMETHING.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST, OKAY, SO LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS.
AND, AND SORRY, GO AHEAD AARON.
SO I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS RECEIVE THAT FULL PACKAGE.
I WILL CIRCULATE THAT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, I WILL SHARE THE, THE, THE OCTOBER 23RD MIN MINUTES WITH, WITH MR. BURINO.
AND THEN WE'LL LOOK TO GET FOLLOW UP FROM THERE.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANT SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM MR. BARRINO ABOUT SPECIFIC ITEMS, POTENTIAL DATES OF STRUCTURES, ET CETERA.
AND WHAT WILL BE, SOUNDS LIKE NOTHING'S, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT SEEKING TO REPURPOSE ANYTHING.
BUT THERE ARE POTENTIAL SALVAGE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE.
I MEAN, IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, UM, I I IF YOU GOT LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT, THIS THING IS LIKE A HODGEPODGE OF BUILDINGS.
I'VE SEEN A BUNCH OF THE PHOTOS.
AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS, AND WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS WE'LL CIRCULATE THE LIST ALONG WITH THE LETTER COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING.
WE WILL CIRCULATE THE LIST OF SALVAGE COMPANIES AND SALVAGE HOUSES THAT I APPRECIATE IT.
AND THEN THERE BE WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN YOU AND THEM.
YEAH, I, UM, YEAH, I AGREE WITH ALL THE ABOVES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN GENERAL, I THINK THAT THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN THERE, THERE WAS LIKE A BOAT THERE, THERE WAS LIKE BROKEN DOWN WINDOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GARBAGE EVERYWHERE.
I THINK THAT A LOT OF THAT STUFF IS KIND OF JUST GARBAGE.
UM, THERE'S LIKE A BUILDING BACK THERE.
YOU CAN REALLY TELL, I COULD, YOU KNOW, TOP OF MY HEAD
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WHERE, WHAT BUILDINGS ARE YOU THINK THAT ARE IMPORTANT? THE BRICK, THE, THE, THE, THE OUT THE OUTBUILDING, THE, THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS KIND OF PERGOLA ATTACHED TO THE, UM, SO ALL, ALL OF THIS STUFF GET, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU, HELP ME GET ME THE PEOPLE THAT I NEED.I THINK WE CAN GET THEM THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
LET LET THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, DO THEIR THING.
UM, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.
I I'VE BEEN TO THIS SITE, UH, WORK WITH LIKE THREE OTHER GUYS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME.
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE MY EMAIL ADDRESS? I GUESS I DO.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL FOLLOW UP IN THE MORNING WITH YOU.
UM, IN FACT, BEFORE I LEAVE THE OFFICE TONIGHT, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL SO THAT YOU CAN FORWARD ME THOSE DOCUMENTS AND THEN WE, WE CAN PICK BACK UP TOMORROW.
AND THE HOPE WOULD BE, UM, YOU GET SOME INFORMATION AND MATERIALS TOGETHER FOR US.
WE PROVIDE YOU WITH THE DOCUMENTS I'VE MENTIONED.
AND, UM, THEN HOPEFULLY WE'RE IN A POSITION TO HAVE YOU BACK IN MARCH.
AND IF THIS BOARD IS PREPARED, UH, TO RENDER, YOU KNOW, A DECISION AT THAT TIME, THEN WE'LL TAKE IT AT THAT TIME.
UM, I WILL, UH, I WILL, YEAH, I'LL GET BACK TO EMAIL ME AND I'LL TRY AND SEND ALL THAT TO YOU TONIGHT.
IS IT OKAY IF I DROP OFF THE CALL NOW? YES, SURE.
OKAY, UM, I'M JUST GONNA QUICKLY GO OVER BECAUSE I WANNA GET TO BETH EL KNOWLES.
THERE'S BEEN NO MOVEMENT ON GEMAN.
I'VE CALLED LIZ A COUPLE OF TIMES AND WHO, UH, AND SHE'S IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, SORRY.
AND WHO I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM FRANCIS AT ALL.
WHOEVER THEY TALKED TO OR MET WITH, APPARENTLY DOESN'T WANNA ANSWER MSTY UH, MESSAGES.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SITTING ON IT.
UM, I SHARED WITH YOU MY FEELING ON BETH L KNOWLES.
UM, PERHAPS OUR GUESTS COULD TELL US WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THAT MEETING.
UM, DO YOU WANT US TO, CAN YOU SIT AT THE TABLE? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THESE MEETINGS, WHEN WE'RE ALLOWED TO SIT AT THE TABLE.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH MONTHS AND MONTHS AND THAT WORK SESSION WHEN I CALL'S BEEN A DRAMA, UM, CAN SPEAK.
WE, WE WENT TO THAT MEETING AND WE, UM, WE GOT SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO ATTEND, UM, WHICH WE WERE REALLY, REALLY PLEASED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THE TOWN BOARD IS GONNA VOTE TO TAKE IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING OR NOT.
UM, WE WROTE, UM, AND I GAVE, UM, COPIES OUT.
UH, BETHEL KNOLLS ATTORNEY WROTE A LETTER TO THE BOARD THAT WE ONLY GOT LIKE ON FRIDAY.
WE WROTE A PRETTY LENGTHY RESPONSE TO THAT LETTER.
UM, AND ONE OF THE POINTS WAS ABOUT THE HISTOR WE CALL THE HISTORIC HOUSE.
UM, BASICALLY THEY, AND I'M JUST SUMMARIZING HERE.
BETHEL KNOLL'S RESPONSE WAS NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
I'M, I'M MIXING UP THE ACRONYMS HERE.
THAT ONE THAT THEY, THEY BASICALLY, FROM THE DOCUMENT I SAW, THE NEW YORK STATE HISTORIC PEOPLE BASICALLY SAID, YOU CAN JUST DOCUMENT IT AND TEAR IT DOWN.
UM, OUR RESPONSE TO THE TOWN BOARD WAS, YOU KNOW, WHY ISN'T BETHEL KNOLL SAYING THAT GREENBERG'S HISTORIC BOARD, YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED THAT YOU SHOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING BUT DESTROY IT.
AND I'VE REVIEWED DOCUMENTS ONLINE, MAINLY THE EASTON REPORT, AND I SAW IN THERE, THEY MADE IT WAS THERE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEIR PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY DON'T TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN.
UM, SO WE JUST PUT AMONGST OUR 13 PAGE COMMENTS TO THE TOWN BOARD, WE JUST REBUTTED WHAT, WHAT THEY SAID AND SAID IT JUST FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T TELLING THE WHOLE STORY.
UM, OUR OTHER COMMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A LOCAL HOUSE.
WE THINK LOCAL BOARDS ARE IN A BETTER POSITION TO COMMENT ON THESE THINGS.
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IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, SO THAT, SO I READ THROUGH THAT YEAH.AND I WILL CIRCULATE THAT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD SO THAT I JUST EMAILED YOU, UH, THE RELEVANT PORTIONS OF THAT MADELINE AND ARMENIA.
SO YOU SHOULD HAVE IT IN YOUR INBOXES RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT.
THERE'S REALLY JUST ONE POINT THAT WAS ABOUT, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER STUFF WHICH, YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT THERE WAS THE ONE POINT ABOUT THAT.
WELL, DID YOU, DID YOU FEEL LIKE THE TOWN BOARD WAS SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, OR THERE WAS NO COMMENT? WELL, FIRST OFF, I ONLY, I ONLY GOT NOEL'S LETTER ON FRIDAY.
AND SO, I MEAN, IT WAS A LOT TO DIGEST.
AND, AND SO WE ONLY, I ONLY SENT IT AT LIKE 11:00 AM THIS MORNING.
SO WHEN I'M NOT SURE THAT ALL OF THE BOARD HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT, I BROUGHT COPIES WITH ME TO THE MEETING AND I HANDED IT OUT BEFOREHAND AND I SAW A COUPLE OF 'EM FLIPPING THROUGH.
BUT DID THEY READ IT BEFORE? I, I WOULD THINK NOT.
IT, YOU KNOW, IT, THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED RELEVANT TO THE, HIS, THE HISTORIC HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT, A LOT GOING ON.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY TENDED, YOU, YOU, YOU KIND OF SUM SUMMARIZED WHAT YOU HEARD AT THAT SESSION ABOUT THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT WAS, WHAT, WHAT'S THE HISTORIC HOUSE AND WHAT'S THE SHACK.
THEY, UM, THEY EMPHASIZED AGAIN THAT THERE'S NO PRACTICAL USE FOR IT IN THEIR REDEVELOPMENT AND NO PRACTICAL USE IF THEY KEEP IT.
UM, WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, D AGED THEY CLAIM CANNOT UTILIZE THE HOUSE.
UM, AND YEAH, THEY, THEY BASICALLY GLOSSED OVER IT TO, TO THEY MOVE ON, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY FEEL, UH, THEY IGNORED ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF MAYBE MOVING IT OR, UH YEP.
THE OTHER POINT THAT I MADE IN MY LETTER WAS, WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THE, THE ASSESSMENT THAT THE NOLLS DID ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, YOU KNOW, MOVE IT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND, AND I THINK I COMMENTED YOU GUYS IN ONE OF THE PRIOR MEETINGS.
I THINK SOME OF THE, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT SOME OF THE ATTOR ALTERNATIVES TO DEMOLITION ARE HIGHLY, HIGHLY EXAGGERATED.
I MEAN, THEY SAID IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO CUT BACK BY THREE UNITS WOULD BE $5 MILLION LOSS ON THEIR OH, FIDDLESTICKS.
SO THAT MEANS THAT IF YOU DIVIDE 5 MILLION BY THREE UNITS, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CRAZY.
AND THAT DOCUMENT ABOUT THIS IS THE COST OF THE ASSESSMENTS WAS SENT TO THIS NEW YORK STATE HISTORIC PEOPLE.
SO THEY, THEY BASE THEIR ASSESSMENT ON SOME OF THESE, WHAT I FEEL TO BE EXAGGERATED.
SO WE JUST, WE TRIED TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE BOARD, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAD ANY ENOUGH TIME TO DIGEST ANYTHING.
THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET A SENSE OF THINGS.
I WILL TELL YOU, AND WE STARTED TO SHOW THIS BEFORE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, AND THIS IS A GIFT FOR YOU GUYS, MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP IT IN THE PLANNING OFFICE.
WE SAT IN THE FRONT ROW AND WE PUT ALONG WITH THE PICTURE OF THE SHACK.
UM, SO MY HUSBAND WORKS, MY HUSBAND WORKS FOR A SIGN COMPANY, SO THIS IS NOT
WE, WE TOOK THIS PICTURE, UM, I THINK WE YOU SAID IT TO PRETTY, YEAH, LIKE IT'S, IT WAS THE FIRST SNOW OF THE SEASON.
AND SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, FRESH FALLEN SNOW, AND WE TOOK IT FROM OUR BACKYARD.
SO WE, WE SAT IN THE FRONT AND WE JUST KIND OF PUT THIS THERE.
THEY WOULD'VE A VISUAL, BUT YEAH, THAT COULD PROBABLY, DID DID THEY TALK ABOUT AT THE MEETING, DID THEY USE THE REORIENTED STRUCTURE SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE, THE, THE, THE DECK, YOU THINK? YES.
IS THAT WHAT THEY WERE USING? IF YOU SENT HER, AND I CAN, I CAN SEND THE WHOLE DOCUMENT, BUT YOU HAVE THE COPY OF THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.
THERE ACTUALLY, SO SOME OF THIS IS RELEVANT.
SO IN THAT ONE SECTION ABOUT THE HISTORIC STUFF, THERE'S SOME OTHER SECTIONS WHERE WE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BALCONIES OVERLOOKING US, RIGHT? SO THIS DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO DO WITH THE HISTORIC HOUSE BALCONIES OVERLOOKING US.
AND IN THERE, YOU KNOW, I SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO THIS PLAN THAT MIGHT REDUCE THE IMPACT.
ONE OF THEM BEING, I THINK, ANGLING THE BUILDING.
AND I STARTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS LAST MEETING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.
UM, IF YOU ANGLE ONE OF THOSE, BUILD THE BUILDING, THAT'S THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THIS HISTORIC BUILDING AND PUT A BUILDING BEHIND IT.
IF YOU WERE TO ANGLE THAT BUILDING, MAYBE YOU COULD SAVE THE BUILDING AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOSE THAT MANY APARTMENTS.
BUT THAT BUILDING WOULD BE SHIFTED SUCH THAT THE BALCONIES AREN'T LOOKING AT ME, THEY'RE LOOKING MORE OUT TO THE STREET.
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AND YES, IT WOULD MAKE THE ROADWAY MAYBE A COUPLE FEET CLOSER.AND YES, IT WOULD MAKE, THE BUILDING ITSELF MIGHT BE 10 FEET CLOSER, BUT I PREFER A BUILDING TO BE SLIGHTLY CLOSER IF IT WAS SHIFTED AND THE PEOPLE WEREN'T LOOKING AT ME.
RIGHT? SO THEY SEEM SO FOCUSED ON THIS IS THE SETBACK, BUT WHEN SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S HOW IT'S PLACED VERSUS THE ACTUAL NUMBER.
UM, BUT TO US, THERE'S SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROJECT.
I MEAN, THEY CAN'T EVEN, THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY DO.
RIGHT? WE, WE DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY WAY IN THE ZONING.
UM, I, THIS IS THE HISTORIC BOARD
I TRULY FEEL WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE, AND THIS IS JUST, I THINK THAT THE PROJECT HAPPENED IN SECRECY WITHOUT US BEING ADVISED.
OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
LET'S, LET'S GO BACK TO TRYING TO SAVE THE BUILDING.
I THINK I TRIED TO CONVEY TO THE BOARD BE THAT I THINK THEY'VE EXAGGERATED THE FIGURES.
BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER WAY BACK WHEN, AND I REALLY MEAN WAY BACK WHEN, EITHER SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER, I MADE SOME COMMENT TO THEM, OH, IT'S LIKE THE INITIATION FEE TO JOIN A COUNTRY CLUB.
BECAUSE THE LAWYER SAID TO US, OH, IT'S GONNA START AT A MILLION DOLLARS.
WELL, THEY PORTRAYED BOARD TONIGHT, ACTUALLY, A NUMBER OF 1 96.
UHHUH,
COULD WE, WE NEED TO CONDUCT A, A HISTORIC MEETING.
THE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TRUTHFUL.
AND BOTH, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE EXAGGERATED WHAT IT WOULD COST TO USE THE FRONT OF THE, THE FRONT OF THE, THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
NUMBER TWO, THEY SAID OUTRIGHT THAT THE BE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS NOT USED FOR ANYTHING.
WELL, THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE I SAW DESKS AND PAPERS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO IF IT'S NOT USED, THEN WHY ARE THE, THERE WERE THREE, UM, ROOMS THAT WE WERE IN.
SO I'M, I'M SKEPTICAL THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR TUNE.
IF, IF IT'S GOING TO COST A MILLION DOLLARS TO GET IN, THEY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY.
DON'T FORGET, THEY MADE A BIG DEAL OF IT.
AND MR. FINER WAS VERY UPSET WHEN HE REALIZED THAT THE TOWN WOULD BE GETTING ZERO FOR THIS.
BUT THEY HAVE SAID THAT BOTH SHIPPO AND EASTON SAID, IT'S ALL RIGHT IF THEY SALVAGE STUFF AND THEY CAN TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN.
I DON'T READ THOSE LETTERS THAT WAY.
AND BOTH, AND WE, WE, THE H-N-L-P-B, IF YOU, WE ALL REMEMBER SAID THAT THEY NEEDED TO HIRE, WELL, WE'LL FIND THE PERSON.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO DECONSTRUCT, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF WHAT THEY MUST DO AND HOW THEY MUST PRESERVE EVERYTHING.
AND THEY MUST HAVE SOMEBODY ON SITE AT ALL TIMES TO WATCH THEM DO THIS.
I DON'T, THEY SEEM TO HAVE IGNORED EVERY, AND THERE'S, I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, FRONT, THE WAY THEY HAVE TO GO ABOUT IT.
IT SAYS SHIPPO PROPERTY DOCUMENTATION, AND IT'S TWO SIDES.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE LOOKED AT THAT AT ALL, BUT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE RECEIVED IT WITH THE LETTER FROM SHIPPO.
THERE WAS A CLARIFICATION MADE IN THE MEETING ABOUT THE, THE ENTRY FEES.
UM, AND IT'S RELEVANT TO, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THIS ALL COMES TOGETHER.
SO IN THE LETTER THAT THEY WROTE, THEY, THEY REGURGITATED THE SAME FIGURES THAT WERE SHARED THREE YEARS AGO, BECAUSE I WATCHED THE WORK SESSION FROM THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE ALL KNOW ABOUT HOUSING PRICES.
SO WE CALLED THAT OUT IN OUR RESPONSE.
UM, THEY, DURING THE WORK SESSION, THEY REALIZED THAT, AND THEY GAVE SOME CORRECTED FIGURES, WHICH WERE HIGHER, BUT I THINK THEY STATED LIKE JUST ABOUT 200 GRAND TO EIGHT 50.
SO IT WASN'T A MILLION DOLLARS, AT LEAST FROM WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
UM, JUST FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT AS IT IS STILL CRAZY, RIGHT? LIKE WHO COULD PAY THAT ONE ITEM THEY IGNORED THAT MR. DESAI BROUGHT UP AND, AND HAS BEEN BROUGHT A COUPLE TIMES, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM
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ENTERTAIN MOVING IT TO MAYBE THE SITE, THE SPOT WHERE LIKE THE, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE SHACK OR MR. FINDER'S CALLING THE SHACK.I MEAN, KARI BROUGHT THAT UP A COUPLE TIMES.
HEY, YOU HAVE THIS PRIME SPOT RIGHT HERE.
YOU CAN DEMOLISH THAT 1950 DILAPIDATED HOUSE KIT AND RELOAD.
JUST DON'T, I THINK THEY COULD ANGLE A BUILDING.
UM, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK THEY, I DON'T THINK THE CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE VISITING THE TOWN BOARD TODAY, WE'RE HONEST ABOUT H AND LPB AND WHICH IS, WHICH IS A CONNECTION THAT WE'RE
UM, WE WERE SLOUGHED OFF, WHICH MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL.
WE VISITED WITH THEM AND WHATEVER AND SO FORTH.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE FIRMER BECAUSE I WISH YOU WOULD ALL READ THE LETTERS ONE FROM SIRI, UM, INITIALLY AFTER IT'S DATED THE 22ND OF JANUARY, AND THE ONE FROM SHIPPO IS DATED DECEMBER 24TH.
I DON'T SEE IT THE WAY THEY SEE IT.
ONE IS ADDRESSED TO MR. FINER AND THE OTHER IS ADDRESSED TO GARRETT.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, MAYBE I, WE, WE SHOULD ALL LOOK AT THE ARCHIVED, UH, TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION TODAY AND HELP ME WRITE A LETTER.
UM, AARON, I THINK, I THINK THAT THE LAW FIRM IS TRYING TO PUSH ITS WEIGHT AROUND AND THEY HAVEN'T BROUGHT THE BIG GUNS IN YET, BUT THEY JUST MIGHT.
AND, UM, HOW ABOUT YOU GIVING US SOME SUGGESTIONS? WELL, I TEND TO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WHICH IS IF EVERYONE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT TONIGHT'S, UH, WORK SESSION, THAT'LL BE ARCHIVED.
THAT SHOULD BE UP ON THE WEBSITE, UH, IN THE MORNING, IF NOT TONIGHT.
AND THEN, UM, START TO CRAFT A LETTER.
I THINK IF SOMEONE WAS DESIGNATED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONCE EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE DISCUSSION, IF I MAY, WAS IT A HALF HOUR DISCUSSION? AN HOUR, 20 MINUTES? IT WAS ABOUT 40.
IT STARTS THERE, THERE WAS A, A PRESENTATION ABOUT ROOFS IN THE LIBRARY FIRST.
SO IT, IT ACTUALLY DID START RIGHT AT AT SIX O'CLOCK.
IT STARTED AT SIX AND LEFT AND ENDED AT ABOUT 20 OF SEVEN.
SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE AFTER MEMBERS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT, THEN MAYBE THERE'S A POINT PERSON WHO CAN START THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF A LETTER AND THEN THAT CAN BE SHARED WITH THE GROUP AND ULTIMATELY FINALIZED FOR DISTRIBUTION.
AND I SEE WE HAVE, UH, MR. LIEBERMAN ON AARON, CAN YOU SEND US PART? SORRY? CAN YOU SEND US A TO A, TO DO, UH, TONIGHT BE A TO DO LIST? YEAH.
SO WE CAN GET ON THAT FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ASK.
SO WE CAN DO THAT OUT TOMORROW MORNING? YES.
WHAT HELP DO YOU WANT FROM US? I MEAN, THE WHOLE COMMITTEE, NOT JUST, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? UH, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE A PHOTO OF A SHACK.
WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? OH, THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE NUMBER ONE.
THAT'S PROPERTY OF THE KNOWLES.
SO THAT'S IN LIKE THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT SIDE.
IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN NEXT TO THE ROAD ARMINIA AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO ON THE PRO ON THEIR PROPERTY.
YOU DETER, YOU KNOW, IT'S A KID HOUSE BECAUSE WE HEARD, I, I, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I, IT'S RUMOR
HE WAS THE PHYSICAL PLANT MANAGER OF THE HEBREW HOME, THE PREVIOUS OWNERS RIGHT.
OF UH, OF, OF THE BETHLE KNOLLS PROPERTY.
HE SAID THAT THE CARETAKERS OF THE ST.
MARY'S ON THE HILL LIVED THERE UNTIL SOME TIME.
I, I, I REMEMBER MOST OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME WHEN THESE PURPORTED CARETAKERS OF THE ST.
MARY'S AND MA HILL MOVED OUTTA THAT KID HOME.
SO WE, WE BROUGHT THIS AS A VISUAL BECAUSE IT IS IN A, IT'S A SO SORE SPOT IN OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S THE ENTRY POINT TO STEVEN'S LANE.
IS THERE A SEPARATE ADDRESS FOR THAT THAT YOU KNOW OF? I THINK THAT'S ONE, ISN'T IT? NO, THERE IS NO, IT'S CALLED ONE STEVENS LANE, BUT IT'S, IT'S PART OF 55.
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THE HELP I CAN GET.I'M SORT OF WRITTEN OUT AT THE MOMENT SINCE ALL I'VE BEEN DOING IS WRITING LETTERS.
UM, AND I THINK YOU'RE WELCOME.
I, UM, I, WHEN YOU, WELL, AARON, CAN THEY ALL GET COPIES OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS SENT TO ME? YES.
I WOULD, UM, JUST ENUMERATE WHAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF EACH OF THE LETTERS, UM, TO THE TOWN BOARD.
'CAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY PLACE THAT SAYS, OH, GO AHEAD.
I JUST, IT'S THE LAST, IT'S THE COURT OF LAST RESORT.
UM, THEY'RE, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE SO WORRIED ABOUT MONEY.
BY THE WAY, I HATE, LET ME BE POLITICALLY INCORRECT.
THEY WERE BRAGGING HOW THEY ARE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OF ALL THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AROUND, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THEY CAME OFF.
WHEN THEY CAME TO SEE US IN THE FALL, THEY WANTED TO BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH THE OSBORNE.
UM, SO, BUT THE OS THE OSBORNE, AT LEAST 10 YEARS AGO, IT WAS ALMOST A A MILLION TO GET INTO IT.
WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR PLACE, IT WAS A MILLION.
BUT THEN YOU HAD TO PAY A MONTHLY OH YES.
AND THEN YOU WANTED A PILL GIVEN TO YOU BY SOMEBODY.
THAT CAME UP IN THE WORK SESSION.
THEY WERE ASKED DIRECTLY 'CAUSE THAT THERE'S AN ENTRANCE FEE AND THEN THERE'S A MONTHLY FEE.
THEY GAVE A RANGE OF FOUR TO 6,000 A MONTH.
AT LEAST THAT'S MUCH TOO LITTLE.
BECAUSE WE KNOW FROM BRIGHTVIEW THAT BRIGHTVIEW THEN, WHAT, ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO NOW, WAS GOING TO BE BETWEEN SEVEN AND $10,000 A MONTH.
ATRIA IS UP TO ATRIA, IS UP TO NINE TO 12 NOW.
SO TELL ME HOW THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AT THAT RATE.
LET'S, LET'S PUT BETH EL KNOWLES ASIDE AND I NEED ALL THE HELP I CAN GET TO CRAFT A LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO I WILL SEND OUT EVERYTHING IN THE MORNING.
I'LL SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING AND CIRCULATE TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.
SO, UH, YOU GUYS ALL RIGHT IF WE STEP AWAY? YEAH, SURE.
DO WE, WE WE WANNA LEAVE? YEAH, LEAVE THAT.
I WILL BRING THAT UP TO MY OFFICE.
ISN'T NEXT WEEK, UM, WINTER BREAK? YES IT IS.
SO, UM, IF WE TRIED TO GET SOMETHING OUT RESEMBLING A LETTER PERHAPS AFTER WINTER BREAK, AARON COULD, IS IT PO I, I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION THAT I CAN'T, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF.
COULD WE, UM, GET A FOUR OR FIVE WAY EITHER ZOOM OR, UM, CONFERENCE CALL SO WE CAN DISCUSS VARIOUS ASPECTS OF WHAT EVERYBODY HAS HELPED WRITE IN THE LETTER? SO I'D ACTUALLY DEFER TO MR. LIEBERMAN BECAUSE I THINK IF IT, IF THERE'S A MEETING CONSTITUTING MORE THAN TWO MEMBERS, WE CAN, WE COULD HAVE THE CHAIR AND THE POINT PERSON MEET WITH STAFF AND IT, THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A QUORUM.
BUT ONCE YOU HAVE THREE OR MORE, WHICH CONSTITUTE A QUORUM, THEN YOU HAVE TO NOTICE THE MEETING.
SO, UH, SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT PER, BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS WE RECEIVED, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO OFF ON TOO MUCH OF A TANGENT, BUT ON THE STATE'S, UM, PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
ONE OF WHICH, WHICH CAME ACROSS QUITE WELL AND THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON AND WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY MENTIONED, THE STATE THAT IS, IS THAT, UM, ALL MEETINGS OF THE H AND LPB MUST BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE OPEN MEETINGS LAW.
WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY I WANNA HAVE COUNSEL ON THESE MEETINGS, UM, TO BE GIVING GUIDANCE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALL THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT IF WE WERE TO MEET IT EVEN IN ON A VIDEO CONFERENCE AND IT WAS THREE OR MORE MEMBERS WOULD BE, THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE, OKAY, SO IF IT'S THE CHAIR OR YOU
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KNOW, MADELINE, IF YOU'RE TIED UP AND YOU KNOW IT'S ARMENIA'S VICE CHAIR OR IT'S TWO POINT PEOPLE, I'M HAPPY TO MEET.I WILL SAY THAT I'M OUT OF THE OFFICE FROM TWO 12 RETURNING 2 23.
SO I'M ACTUALLY OUT PRESIDENT'S WEEK TWO 12 IS TWO DAYS FROM NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M IN TOMORROW AND I'M LEAVING TOMORROW NIGHT.
SO, UM, SO I WON'T BE AROUND, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER'S THE POINT PERSON, ONCE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE TAPE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING, CAN'T BEGIN CRAFTING A LETTER THAT THEN GETS SHARED, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
BUT AARON, THEY WOULD ALSO NEED THE SHIPPO LETTER YES.
OF THE, UM, HELL, UH, OF THE 20 SOMETHING ON IT AND, AND, AND, UM, SERIES MEMO OF JANUARY, RIGHT? YES.
SO I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT AARON TO SEND EMAIL TO THE ENTIRE BOARD, INCLUDING THE SHIPPO LETTER, THE EASTON LETTERS, UM, H AND LPB ORIGINAL LETTER, RIGHT? THAT WAS CIRCULATED.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSE DATED FEBRUARY 4TH, THE LINK TO TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION SESSION.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST A DESCRIPTION ON WHAT YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.
UM, DO WE KNOW IF, UM, MAYBE MR. LIEBERMAN CAN TELL US IF WE ALL MET OVER ZOOM WE WOULDN'T BE IN COMPLIANCE RIGHT.
WITH NEW YORK STATE MEETINGS? SO THEN THAT I CAN ANSWER.
SO WOULD THEN IT NOT BE DEFACTO A MEETING? WOULD WE JUST BE, SINCE WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE ANYWAY, EVEN IF WE WERE TO HAVE A OH YES.
I ED, ARE YOU ON? IF HE'S NOT, I WILL ASK HIM SO THAT YOU CAN GET A LEGAL RESPONSE.
UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, A BOARD CAN'T CONDUCT BUSINESS, RIGHT? UH, UNLESS IT'S IN AN OPEN PUBLIC SESSION, UNLESS IT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT, UM, SO TRYING TO SKIRT IT BY ALL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, MEANING MEAN WE WOULDN'T BE VOTING.
WE WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULD JUST BE, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULD BE JUST A, UH, A WORKING MEETING.
IT WOULDN'T BE AN OFFICIAL MEETING IN THAT REGARD.
I, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO GET THE LEGAL.
I WOULD LIKE THAT INTERPRETATIONS.
SO WE'LL GET THAT FROM MR. LIEBERMAN.
UM, AARON, FIND OUT IF WE CALLED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHETHER THAT WILL WORK.
OH, MR. LIEBERMAN SAID HE HAS NO CAMERA OR MICROPHONE SO HE CAN HEAR US.
OH, ED, CAN YOU JUST, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE IN THE CHAT, BUT CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT YOU HEARD US WITH RESPECT TO THE QUESTION, UH, ON LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF A MEETING? UH, 'CAUSE I'M GONNA BE OUT OF THE OFFICE AFTER TOMORROW.
SO IT WOULD, WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT LEGAL OPINION TO THE BOARD AND FIND OUT, AARON, IF WE CAN, UM, CALL AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE CAN CERTAINLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THE REASON WOULD BE AND THEN THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
I'D LIKE TO JUST QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. AARON, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE FOR US ON 3 25 OLD ARMY ROAD? UH, YES.
SO QUICK UPDATE ON 3 25 OLD ARMY ROAD, WHICH WE HAD MET, A COUPLE OF US WENT OUT IN THE FIELD, WE MET WITH THE PROSPECTIVE PURCHASERS.
UM, IT SEEMS AS IF DUE TO COMMUNICATION ISSUES WITH THE SELLERS, UM, AND THE LENGTH OF TIME, I MEAN THESE FOLKS ARE BUILDERS, THEY WANTED OR DESIRED TO MOVE INTO THE HOUSE, PROBABLY GET TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER SOME RENOVATION PLANS BY THIS TIME.
AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO, YOU KNOW, A THE CLOSING TABLE.
SO THEY ADVISED ME WHILE THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED, UM, THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BACKED OFF BECAUSE OF A LACK OF COMMUNICATION ON THE SELLER'S PART TOWN.
THE TOWN STAFF HAS RECEIVED, UM, INQUIRIES FROM REALTOR FROM AT LEAST ONE REALTOR AND AT LEAST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENT ABOUT INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY MAY BE AVAILABLE.
THE REALTOR WHO I DID NOT SPEAK WITH, UM, ASKED QUESTIONS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING HOME AND BUILD THREE NEW HOMES? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL LETTER.
THERE ARE CONDITIONS WITHIN THAT LETTER.
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BUT I IMMEDIATELY SPOKE WITH THE CHAIRWOMAN AND THEN REACHED OUT TO THE LIE FAMILY BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRE OF THIS BOARD, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS UM, MUCH LIKE THE LIE FAMILY WAS PROPOSING WAS TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING HOME, KEEP IT IN SOME OF THE ORIGINAL FEATURES AND REPURPOSING OF ITEMS, AND THEN SURE.THOSE TWO NEW SUBDIVIDED LOTS, YOU KNOW, AS BUILDERS THEY MAY WANT TO BUILD THOSE AND THAT WOULD HELP FUND THE WHOLE TRANSACTION.
UM, SO I'VE KEPT THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN.
I DID SPEAK WITH THE, UM, KEN PERKO, THE SON.
HE TOLD ME THAT HE STILL WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE LIES, BUT WAS NOW ON TRACK TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A TRANSACTION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THIS WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
IT WAS ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AFTER THE NEW YEAR.
WHO'S THE REALTOR? CAN YOU SAY? WELL, IT'S NOWHERE AND WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THAT HOUSE TOO.
UH, CARL ASKED THE QUESTION, I DIDN'T SPEAK WITH THE REALTOR.
THE REALTOR WAS NOT ON THE SELLER SIDE.
IT SEEMS AS IF THE PERGO FAMILY'S MARKETING IT ON THEIR OWN AND MAYBE THROUGH CONTACTS THEY HAVE, BUT I DON'T SEE IT LISTED ON, YOU KNOW, EITHER AN MLS SITE OR HOULAHAN LAWRENCE OR, YOU KNOW, COMPASS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF I HEAR OF ANYTHING OR IF ANYONE HEARS OF ANYTHING, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME AND I WILL DISTRIBUTE TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.
I'M GONNA PUT OFF THE H-N-L-P-B PACKETS.
UM, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH TO WRITE, WE DON'T NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT.
AS FAR AS PARKWAY GARDENS IS CONCERNED, I GOT A VERY INTERESTING EMAIL FROM LLOYD COURT.
HE IS DEFACTO PRESIDENT OF PARKWAY GARDENS.
I THINK HE MET OR KNOWS A MR. SIMMONS, AND MR. SIMMONS IS ELDERLY, VERY, HE DOESN'T GO TO MEETINGS, BUT HE HAS A WEALTH OF HISTORY THAT HE IS DYING TO GIVE TO PEOPLE.
SO I ANSWERED MR. COURT AND I SUGGESTED, BECAUSE I HAD ASKED AARON ABOUT THIS, THAT IF MR. COURT COULD GET MR. SIMMONS INTO TOWN HALL, NO MEETING, WE COULD GET CABLE TV TO RUN A TAPE.
WHILE LLOYD SPOKE TO MR. SIMMONS AND HE TALKED ABOUT PARKWAY GARDENS, PROBABLY PARKWAY HOMES AS WELL, AND MAYBE EVEN THE HISTORY OF GREENBURG.
I THINK HE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY.
I THINK LLOYD SAID 90 AND CHANGE.
SO HE SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF INTERESTING STORIES TO TELL.
SO IF WE CAN PULL THIS OFF, IT WOULD HELP US WITH, UM, CREATING A HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH PARKWAY GARDENS.
UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ASSIST IN MY CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, IN GETTING THAT ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH CABLE, LOCAL CABLE ACCESS.
UM, I HAVEN'T, WELL, I ONLY EMAILED LLOYD THIS MORNING AS FAR AS THE STONE WALLS OF GREENBERG ARE CONCERNED.
UM, I UNDERSTAND, ALTHOUGH IT'S, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A MEETING IN EDGEMONT ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS, WHICH HAVE TO BE FIVE FEET WIDE, WHICH WILL DISTURB SEVERAL OF THE, UM, STONE WALLS THAT ARE ORIGINAL TO THE FARMS THAT USED TO BE HERE.
UM, I LIVE ON THE TAIL END OF WHAT USED TO BE A FARM.
WE HAD THE DUCK POND OR THE WATER POND FOR THE COWS IN OUR BACKYARD.
UM, I WOULD LIKE WITH AARON'S AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S PERMISSION TO ASK THE TOWN CLERK IF SHE, IF THAT SHE'S GOING TO GET INTERNS FOR NEXT, NEXT SUMMER, WOULD SHE GET AN IN, COULD WE HAVE AN INTERN TO DRIVE AROUND EDGE, UM, GREENBERG NOTE HOPEFULLY WITH A CAMERA, THE STONE WALLS, AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THOSE STONE WALLS? THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TOLD ME, NO, THEY WON'T DESTROY THE
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STONEWALL.WELL, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE IF YOU KNOW THE TERRAIN OF SOME OF GREENBURG, SOME STONE WALLS ARE NEAR THE CURB AND THERE'S A STATE PITCH DOWN TO THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, SO WE'LL LOSE THE WALLS.
UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT TRYING TO GET AN INTERN TO DO THIS? IT'S A GOOD IDEA, CARL.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD PICK UP ON THE HISTORY OF IT ALL, BUT THEY COULD DOCUMENT IT.
YEAH, WE COULD START WITH THAT THEN THE NEXT
AND, BUT I FIGURED THAT, UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OLD MAPS, AND I KNOW AT LEAST FOR EDGEMONT LOUISE CLARK HAD THEM, YOU COULD TELL WHOSE FARM IT WAS.
EVEN I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU WHOSE FARM I THINK I CAN, ANYWAY, ON UNDERHILL ROAD UP FORT HILL, BECAUSE THE FRANKS LIVED THERE, IT WAS THE FRANK FARM, AND THERE'S STILL A FOUNDATION OF THE BARN.
SO, I MEAN, I JUST, I I WOULD LIKE THE DOCUMENTATION PRETTY SERIOUSLY NOW BECAUSE OF THE TOWN'S INTEREST IN PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN, AND WE'RE GOING TO EITHER LOSE THE STONEWALL OR IT WILL HAVE NO VALIDATION IF IT'S 10 OR 15 FEET INTO THE PROPERTY.
BUT ARE THEY, AREN'T THEY CHOOSING ONE SIDE VERSUS THE OTHER AND DO ALL OTHER STONE WALLS ON BOTH SIDES ON OLD ARMY ROAD? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS IN SOME PLACES AND ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY'RE CHOOSING THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE THE STONE WALLS ARE.
SO WE, UM, I, I WILL GET AN EMAIL OFF TO MR. FA BECAUSE, UH, WELL I COULDN'T HAVE GONE TO THE MEETING ANYWAY, BUT NOBODY INFORMED ME ABOUT THE MEETING ON THE, UH, SIDEWALKS FOR EDGEMONT, AND I'M USING THAT AS A, UM, GUINEA PIG, SHALL WE SAY? MOND, I THINK WHAT THEY, YES, AARON, SORRY, I, I IT'S CARL, I THINK DYLAN PINE SENT IT A MESSAGE ABOUT THAT MEETING VIA THE ECC.
UM, UH, YES, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY HAVE, AND I THINK GARRETT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THAT MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE ATTENDED, UH, WAS IT RECENT? WITHIN THE LAST FEW DAYS? YEAH, HE WAS THERE.
I, MY, MY POINT IS, WHAT HAPPENS IN ONE PART OF TOWN HAPPENS IN THE OTHER, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, JUST SIT STILL AND YOU'LL SEE SO THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE OR DEMOLISH SOME OF THE WALLS, THEN YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THE EASIEST AND THE CHEAPEST WAY OUT.
ALTHOUGH MR. FOND DID SAY THAT HE HAS SOMEBODY TO CONSTRUCT THE DRY WALLS BACK AGAIN, THE EASIEST AND RIGHT.
THE EASIEST AND FASTEST AND CHEAPEST WAY IS TO SLAP CONCRETE BETWEEN THEM.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, UM, IF, IF YOU GIVE ME PERMISSION, I WILL ASK THE TOWN CLERK TO, UM, TRY TO FIND US AN INTERN.
UH, AARON, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION? NO, NONE WHATSOEVER.
WEREN'T WE DISCUSSING STONE WALLS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO? YES, I WROTE DOWN, DOWN BY THE FARM.
BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PUT SIDEWALKS UP AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY COULD TAKE 'EM DOWN, THEY COULD TAKE THE, THE WALL DOWN AND THEN PUT IT BACK UP AGAIN.
HE WAS GO, THEY WERE GOING TO DO ON WEST HART STEEL AVENUE.
HOW WERE THEY DOING THIS? NUMBERING THE STONE SO THAT THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO PUT THEM? YEP.
I, I, I DON'T CARE IF I, BUT THEY JUST CAN'T LOOK LIKE A DISNEY, LIKE A DISNEY SET, ANNETTE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO VALIDATION IN THAT.
THEN IF THEY MATCH ALL THE STONES, THERE'S NO VALIDATION IN THERE.
HE'S GOING TO PHOTOGRAPH THEM.
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I THINK I HAD BETTER CHECK BACK WITH MR. FOND, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE OLD ARMY WALLS, CARL, STOP ME IF I'M WRONG, ARE DUE TO THE DEALT WITH IN 2026 AND WEST HARTSDALE IN 27, OR MAYBE THAT'S FLIPPED.DO YOU KNOW CARL? I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
WELL, SOME OF THE STONE WALLS ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FOOTPATH.
AND SOME OF THEM WERE BURIED, I UNDERSTAND FROM THE SNOWPLOWS.
SO THOSE WALLS MAY HAVE BEEN, MAY COME DOWN, MAY HAVE BEEN DOWN ALREADY, OR, BUT NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING MORE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
UM, I CAN, I GUESS ONE QUESTION WHILE WE HAVE THE COMMISSIONER HERE BEFORE WE WRAP UP.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO BETHEL KNOWLES, THE, THERE WAS A QUESTION OUT OF THE HISTORIC BOARD MEMBERS OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BE ADVANCING TO A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE TOWN BOARD OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT? OH, AT SOME POINT, YES.
COMING OUT OF TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A DATE, BUT, UH, AS SOON AS WE DO, WE'LL LET THE H AND LPB KNOW.
I THINK THE EARLIEST WOULD BE MARCH 11TH.
AND THE NEXT STEP IS A PUBLIC HEARING YES.
VERSUS A ANOTHER WORK SESSION.
NO, DEFINITELY PUBLIC HEARING.
NEXT STEP PROCESS WISE, GARRETT? NO.
EARLIER THAN MARCH 11TH? CORRECT.
DID, UM, THE TOWN BOARD GET THE LETTER FROM SHIPPO AND THE LETTERS FROM THE, AND THE TWO LETTERS FROM EASTON? YES.
SHOULD I ASK YOU IF THEY READ THEM? NEVERMIND.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE TOWN BOARD READS EVERYTHING.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, UM, TWO BRING UP.
SHALL WE ADJOURN? WELL, WE JUST, WEREN'T WE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MEETING THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS IN EDGEMONT THAT I THINK YOU ATTENDED IT.
ALRIGHT, SO TELL US ABOUT IT PLEASE.
BECAUSE THERE ARE WALLS INVOLVED, FOR THE MOST PART, WALTER ARE MINIMALLY GOING TO BE INTERRUPTED BY, THEY ACTUALLY SHOWED A RETAINING WALL AND THEY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS A, A HALF A FOOT OF IT WOULD NEED TO BE SHAVED BACK OR SOMETHING.
BUT THAT WAS JUST LIKE A CORNER PORTION.
UM, THE, THERE WE, WE'LL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ACTUALLY NOT TOUCH WALLS BECAUSE WHY? IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
SO, UH, TYPICALLY THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE TO DO THE SIDEWALK AND, AND, AND NOT HAVE TO IMPACT ANY WALLS.
UH, RICH DID SAY THAT IF THEY HAD TO, THEY WOULD JUST TAKE PICTURES, DISMANTLE IT AND PUT IT BACK A FOOT OR TWO.
THE, UH, A DRYWALL, HE SAID THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY ON STAFF THAT IS A MASON AND CAN DO IT, BUT THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
AND THIS WAS IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER? YEAH, BUT IF HE'S A MASON, IS HE GONNA USE CONCRETE THEN? NO, I, NO, THEY CAN'T USE CONCRETE.
HE'S ACTUALLY, IF IT'S WHO I'M THINKING OF, HE IS EXTREMELY TALENTED.
I FORGET HIS NAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT HE HAS DONE OTHER WORK FOR THE TOWN AND I'VE WORKED WITH HIM, UH, NOT NECESSARILY UTILIZING, IN FACT, HE WAS INVOLVED, THE GENTLEMAN I'M THINKING OF WAS INVOLVED IN RESETTING THE BRICKS THAT WERE PURCHASED FROM RES, UH, BY RESIDENTS FOR LOVED ONES THAT HAD PASSED AT THE OLD LIBRARY BEFORE THE ADDITION.
AND THE DEMOLITION OF OLD, OLD TOWN HALL WAS DONE.
THE, THERE WAS A, A KIND OF A PATIO AREA WITH PLANTERS THAT THE BRICKS WENT AROUND TREES AND THOSE BRICKS WERE STORED IN ONE OF THE OFFICES.
AND WE RESET THOSE AT THE NEW AREA AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH HAS SOME BENCHES PERCHED UP TOP.
AND THEY DIDN'T USE ANY UM, MORTAR.
THEY ACTUALLY, HE DID A REALLY NICE JOB AND I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK.
IT'S IN THE UPPER PARKING LOT OF THE LIBRARY NEAREST TOWARDS NORWOOD ROAD.
SO IT'S FAR AWAY FROM THE BUILDING ITSELF, BUT IT IS, UM, IT IS A STONE OUTLINE, RIGHT.
WITH LARGE SLATE PIECES OF STONE ALMOST.
AND THEN THE BRICKS ARE PLACED AND THEN THERE'S UM, KIND OF LIKE A RIVER ROCK STONE PLACED AROUND THEM TO KIND OF SET IT WITH STONE DUST.
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USED.AND THEY ACTUALLY DID A REAL, BECAUSE SOME OF THE, UM, I THINK HIS NAME'S JOSE, BUT I, I I COULD BE WRONG, THE, UH, STONEWALL DOWN WHERE, UM, BEST BUY WAS THAT SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN REPAIRED.
WAS THAT, DID HE DO THAT? UH, NO, THAT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
UNDERSTAND THAT WHOEVER DID THAT DID A GREAT JOB.
HAMPTON MANAGER, THERE'S PREFERENCES THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED INTO ARMY ROAD.
AS FAR AS ANY TIME THAT WALLS NEED TO BE UPDATED, JUST LET US KNOW.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DRYWALL, NOT STER DRYWALL.
IF THERE'S LIKE A RULE ABOVE IT, YOU WANT DRYWALL TO NOT BE HISTORIC DRY WALLS.
YEAH, IT'S PASS IT ALONG AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEND IT TO THE DESIGNER.
YEAH, YOU CAN PUT NOTES ON THE PLANS, THAT'D BE GREAT.
IS THAT IN 2026? YEAH, THAT WAS THE LAST QUESTION.
AND THEN IS IS WEST HARTSDALE 20, 20, 27? 2028? BOTH YEARS.
WE JUST WEREN'T SURE ON THE DATES THIS YEAR.
OH, THERE'S NOTHING THIS YEAR THEN.
DO YOU WANT TO, THERE'S A, A, A SENIOR COMPLEX GOING AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.
BUT ARE THEY PUTTING UP TWO BUILDINGS? JUST A SENIOR COMPLEX? I'M NOT SURE OF ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT VICINITY ACROSS THE STREET ON DO CHERRY ROAD ON? YEAH.
NO, IT'S JUST THE TRAILER IS LIKE A SALE SITE.
LIKE THEY, THEY'LL, THIS LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS BUILDINGS WHEN I WENT BY THERE THE OTHER DAY, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
THEY HAVE A TRAILER THAT THEY THE SENIOR BUILDING? YEAH.
OH, THE BIG, THE VIEW OR SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE OLD METROPOLIS ENTRANCE.
THAT'S FULL-BLOWN UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
A RIGHT ACROSS THAT DRIVEWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE BUILDING SOMETHING ELSE.
AH, THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT'S NOT ANYTHING LIKE MAJOR STRUCTURES.
GARRETT, WOULD YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE TOWN BOARD AND TO TELL THEM? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT THE CONNECTIONS TO BETH EL WERE A HUNDRED PERCENT HONEST IN SOME OF THE THINGS THEY SAID.
I DON'T, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL GONNA REWATCH THAT, UM, WORK SESSION.
BUT, UM, DO YOU THINK THAT, UM, YOU COULD TRY TO, I JUST FEEL THE TOWN BOARD DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOUSE.
AND I THINK, I PERSONALLY THINK THIS IS A MONEY ISSUE WITH BETH EL AND THEY WANT THE MOST THAT THEY CAN GET OUT.
THEY COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT.
AND I THINK I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REACH THE TOWN BOARD AND IW WAS WONDERING WHETHER YOU MIGHT DO IT FOR US.
NO, I THINK IT'S BEST FROM THE HLPB.
I MEAN THEY, THEY USE THE TERM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RAZOR THIN PROFORMA.
UM, MEANING THAT TRANSLATES INTO THIS IS NOT A MONEY MAKING VENTURE.
IT'S KEEPING THE PLACE SUSTAINABLE.
SO THEY TALKED ABOUT EVERY TIME THERE'S CHANGES TO THE PLANS, YOU KNOW, THEY GET CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR OVERALL BUDGET.
SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY REPRESENTED.
I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
AND ULTIMATELY, I PASSED ALONG THE MEMO THAT CARL AND, UM, I THINK ALON YOU, UM, DID, UH, BACK IN NOVEMBER, PERHAPS I WAS MM-HMM
TRANSMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD.
IF THERE'S AN UPDATE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
WE'RE GONNA UPDATE IT, COME TO A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU KNOW, UH, LISTEN, I THINK EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDING REMAIN, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT WHAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING.
THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE IF THEY WANT TO.
THE, I'M GONNA BE RECIRCULATING THE DOCUMENTS, A LINK TO TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION, UM, TO ALL H AND LPB MEMBERS AND THEN THERE'S LIKELY A FOLLOW UP DOCUMENT TO BE CIRCULATED TO THE TOWN BOARD.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, IF WE HAVE IT DONE IN EARLY MARCH, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR COMING.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'VE SPENT WITH US.
AARON, THANK YOU FOR POPPING IN.
BYE ED NIGHT ED WILL BE CLOSE AT 8:49 PM ED WILL BE SHOWING METROPOLIS IN THE BACK.