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IN PROGRESS.[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ]
TO, UM, OUR WORK SESSION.UM, TODAY IS, UH, FEBRUARY 24TH AT UM, FIVE, UH, AFTER 5 35 40.
AND THE FIRST ITEM IS, UH, THE TAXI ROAD SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, PLANS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S UH, I GUESS ON, THERE'S REALLY TWO ISSUES.
ONE IS, UH, GOING OUT TO BID, UM, AND THE SECOND IS, UH, THE SNOW SHOVELING, YOU KNOW, ASPECT.
AND IT'S EASIER IF WE JUST SEPARATE THE TWO.
SO THE FIRST ITEMS ON TOMORROW'S AGENDA, UM, WHICH IS, UH, AUTHORIZING GOING OUT TO BID.
I THINK JOE ZA WAS JOINING US FOR THIS.
UH, HE SAID HE'S NOT READY TO TALK ABOUT NO, HE, HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
WELL, HE SAID YOUR MIC IS OFF.
HE, UM, HE, WHAT'S THAT? WE DIDN'T HAVE FOUR.
HE'S GONNA PROVE TAKING IT OFF.
SO IS IT ON HERE? I DID SPEAK WITH HIM.
THIS, IT'S ON HERE THIS MORNING.
AND HE SAID THAT HE WAS JUST GONNA REPORT ON THE COST FOR TAX OR HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT NUMBER ROAD.
HE DOESN'T, THE NUMBERS HE DOES NOW, HE, BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING THE AGENDA ITEM OFF, ELLEN.
WE'RE NOT TAKING THE, THE AGENDA ITEM OFF.
'CAUSE THE AGENDA ITEM ACTUALLY REFERS TO TONIGHT TOMORROW'S RE RESOLUTION RESOLUTION.
TO GO OUT TO BID, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP GOING FORWARD WITH.
AND THEN WE COULD DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, SHOVELING OR NOT SHOVELING WHEN WE GET SOME NUMBERS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, I HAD ASKED, UM, YOU KNOW, JOE, UH, YOU KNOW, I STILL, WE ALL SORT OF AGREE THAT IT IS A BURDEN ON PEOPLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SIDEWALK AND REQUIRE, UH, SNOW SHOVELING.
AND WE ALSO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE COSTS OF, YOU KNOW, TO THE TAXPAYERS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE TOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, I HAD WOULD, WOULD BE TO APPROVE SI YOU KNOW, FUTURE SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN, UH, THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY IF WE WON, UH, TO EXEMPT, UH, HOMEOWNERS FROM THAT SIDEWALK, FROM CLEARING OF THE DRIVEWAY OF, OF SNOW AND MAYBE EVEN PUTTING UP A SIGN SAYING DURING A SNOW STORM LIKE THE ONE TODAY, THIS SIDEWALK IS CLOSED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEN NOBODY IS BURDENED.
WE, FOR 90% OF THE SEASON, YOU STILL HAVE THE SIDEWALK.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK GOING FORWARD WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE MORE, UM, MORE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, SAFE BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SHOVELING SNOW THAT'S TRUE HERE ARE GONNA HAVE IT IN OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL REALLY HORRIBLE EVERY TIME I THINK OF SOME OF THE PEDESTRIANS WHO DIED BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR LI LIVES IN A PEDESTRIAN ACCENT.
THE TOWN ATTORNEYS ALREADY OPINED ABOUT THAT, THAT TYPE OF A PROPOSAL.
UH, I DID ASK TO SPEAK ABOUT IT FURTHER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SORT OF, SO I, BUT WE SAID WE WOULD GO FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT'S FINE.
TO, WITH THE SIDEWALK AND TALK AS I THINK FRANCIS JUST SAID, HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SNOW AND REPAIR ISSUES, NOT JUST FOR THIS SIDEWALK, BUT IN GENERAL WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BROADER RIGHT.
I'M JUST SUGGESTING BECAUSE I FEEL THIS IS A COMPROMISE IDEA THAT I HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.
YOU KNOW, I'M THE, I'M WONDERING WHY IT WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN, WHEN THERE'S, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING FOR LEGAL ADVICE AND I'M GIVING YOU ADVICE THAT I BELIEVE BELONGS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NEXT, UH, UH, THE FORENSIC LETTER, JOE, JOE ESE WAS PLANNING ON SIGNING ON.
THIS, THIS TOPIC WAS MOVED UP IN TIME BECAUSE YES, THE FIRST TOPIC, UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO BE CANCELED.
SO I BELIEVE LET'S TOOK A 45 MINUTE TOPIC.
SO, SO JOE ESE WAS PLANNING ON BEING HERE IN PERSON.
HE IS SIGNING ON ZOOM RIGHT NOW.
SO LET'S GIVE HIM A MOMENT, RIGHT? OR GO TO THE, SO DO YOU WANNA MOVE UP THE F SO WE WANT, WE JUST WANT, IS THERE ANYTHING, UH, I WAS GONNA SAY WE COULD DO A QUICK, JOE LUCAS IS ON FOR THE FORENSIC ORDER.
WAS ANYTHING FOR THE, UM, OR THE, UH, AGENDA? WELL THEN MAYBE WE CAN GO TO AGENDA REVIEW WHILE WE WAIT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
SO JUST, SO JUST AS A REMINDER, WE ARE HAVING A TOMORROW BLACK HISTORY MONTH PRESENTATION
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OR PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL.UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FIRESIDE CHAT WITH AMBASSADOR HAROLD DOYLEY.
AND UH, AND THEN WE HAVE SP FIVE TOM BOYER.
AND WE'RE GONNA JUST TALK ABOUT THEIR JOURNEY, UM, DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA AND, UM, WHAT THEY HAVE, UM, ENDURED AND TALK ABOUT THEIR JOURNEY.
SO THAT IS GOING TO START AT 6:30 PM SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE COMING IN PERSON, WE ASK IF YOU COULD PLEASE BE HERE, UM, BY 6 15, 6 25.
AND WE PLAN TO START AT SIX 30.
UM, AND THOSE WHO ARE SIGNING ONLINE, WE ASK IF YOU COULD JUST PLEASE SIGN ON AS WELL.
DO WE WANT TO ANNOUNCE THE FOLLOWING? OUR IT'S CANCELED.
WHAT'S CANCELED? THE THING AT THE LIBRARY, IT'S CANCELED.
IT WAS POSTPONE BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.
WHAT? OH, LUCKY YOU WITH ALL THIS SNOW.
I THOUGHT EVERYBODY COULD USE THAT ANYWAY.
THAT WAS A VERY HALF-HEARTED HA.
NO WONDER YOU COULDN'T GET HERE ENTIRE.
AND YOU REALLY LIKE BLOWING, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE A SUNTAN TOO.
SO JOE, BEFORE YOU SIGNED ON THE BOARD WAS ASKING ABOUT YOUR ESTIMATED COSTS YOU PUT TOGETHER IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING TAX ERO AND EVERYONE'S AWARE BECAUSE OF THIS HUGE SNOWSTORM WE HAD, THAT YOU HAVEN'T PUT COMPLETE FIGURES TOGETHER FOR POTENTIAL TOWN WIDE CLEANING OR, OR HEAVY ROADS CLEANINGS.
BUT SPECIFICALLY TO TAX ERODE, IF YOU COULD LET THE BOARD KNOW AND EVERYONE WHO'S LISTENING AND KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RESEARCH YOU'VE DONE AND AN ESTIMATE OF THE COSTS.
SO IF WE HAD THE MANPOWER, WHICH WE DON'T, PERSONNEL.
WE ASKED, WE DID ESTIMATE THAT THE 2200 LINEAR FEET THAT WE WOULD BE, UM, INSTALLING AT TAXTER WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $400 FOR EACH, UM, TIME WE DID IT AND WE ESTIMATED A SIX INCH SNOWFALL.
WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK AT LEAST TWICE, IF NOT THREE OR MORE TIMES BECAUSE OF THE SNOW BEING PUSHED BACK ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
SO THAT'S TWO STAFF MEMBERS WORKING THREE HOURS, UM, WITH A EVENT TRACK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD.
UM, BUT I DID TALK TO OUR, OUR STAFF TODAY, AND THEY JUST FINISHED COLUMBIA, UM, FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY.
AND I ASKED THEM IF THEY HAD TO DO TAXTER WITH THE MANPOWER THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT GET TO IT UNTIL THURSDAY BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO GO BACK OVER SOME OF THE OTHER MAJOR THOROUGH FARS THAT WE DO.
UM, AGAIN, AND, AND MANY OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO IF TAXER WAS ON THE DOCKET RIGHT NOW, THOSE WOULD BE THE COST.
BUT, UM, A SNOWFALL THAT CAME DOWN ON, YOU KNOW, SUNDAY WOULD BE NOT CLEARED TILL THURSDAY.
SO WE FEEL THAT WE'D HAVE TO AT LEAST HAVE ANOTHER FULL-TIMER ON THE STAFF JUST FOR THAT PARTICULAR SIDEWALK.
WELL, YOU SAID IF IT WAS DONE THURSDAY, YOU'D STILL NEED A FULL-TIMER.
WELL, UH, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD, IF WE WANT TO GET IT DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION, I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH WAITING UNTIL THURSDAY TO GET TAXI TO ROAD SIDEWALK IN THERE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF, IF THERE'S NO, THERE'S BEEN NO SIDEWALK THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS.
SO, UM, IF YOU HA, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT THREE DAYS FOR A SIDEWALK TO BE CLEARED OR, OR FOUR DAYS, UM, AND YOU STILL GET A BENEFIT OF A SIDEWALK FOR 99% OF THE, YOU KNOW, FOR A GOOD OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE THE SEASON, ISN'T THAT STILL A BENEFIT? YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING ON A SIDEWALK, THE SNOWSTORM LIKE, LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE.
UM, WELL, I, I'D HAVE TO DISAGREE.
I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS AND I I'M SURE YOU ARE TOO, ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO USE THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE PRESENTLY DO, THAT THEY WOULD SEND US PHOTOS THAT WOULD BASICALLY SAY, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY WORK HERE AT ALL.
THAT'S THEIR IMPLICATION WHEN WE'VE GONE OVER IT MAYBE THREE OR FOUR TIMES ALREADY, AND AS SOON AS THE SNOWPLOW GOES THROUGH AND THROWS IT BACK ONTO THE SIDEWALK, IT LOOKS LIKE IT HA HASN'T
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BEEN DONE.UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF DOESN'T APPRECIATE THOSE KIND OF COMMENTS AND I TRY TO KEEP THOSE, I TRY NOT TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO TRY AND KEEP THOSE SIDEWALKS CLEAR.
BUT I'M SURE THE SAME THING WOULD HAPPEN ON TAXTER.
AND IF SOMEBODY SLIPPED AND FELL, I ASSUME THAT THE TOWN WOULD, UM, ABSORB SOME LIABILITY ON THAT SINCE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, IF THEY, IF THEY WERE TO SAY THEY WERE DOING IT.
DID I, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT OR IS IT STILL CORRECT THAT ANTHONY VETERAN PARK PARKING LOT HASN'T BEEN PLOWED YET BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING ON SIDEWALKS? NO, WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH DPW TO GET IT PLOWED TODAY.
UH, THEY DID, BUT WE HAVEN'T, UM, OPENED UP.
THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT PEOPLE UTILIZE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET TO PROBABLY TILL THE END OF THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK, GETTING THE DOG PARK OPEN UP SO THAT THEY COULD GET DOWN THERE AND SWING THE GATE OPEN.
THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY PLATFORM TENNIS, THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON CENTRAL AVENUE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON STILL THAT ARE ADJACENT TO PARKLAND THAT WE WORK ON, WHETHER IT'S, UH, UH, WEB FIELD, UM, OR THE, OR THE, UH, SIDEWALK THAT GOES, UH, IN FRONT OF, UH, THE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, THE SHOPRITE SHOPPING CENTER, UM, THAT'S ADJACENT TO PARKLAND.
IT JUST, IT'S JUST AN ONGOING BATTLE AT THIS POINT.
OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS AN EXTREME SITUATION FOR THIS SNOWSTORM, BUT WHEN WE GIVE THOSE ESTIMATES, WE WERE ACTUALLY GIVEN ESTIMATES OF A SIX INCH SNOWSTORM.
UH, WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, UH, UH, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU CANCELED PROGRAMS AT ENTITY VETERAN BECAUSE YOU DOING SIDEWALKS DURING THE SNOWSTORM.
YOU, UH, DIDN'T GET TO DO THE PARKING LOT.
NO, IT IS CORRECT, BUT THE FACT IS THAT THEY WEREN'T DONE UNTIL LATER IN THE AFTERNOON TODAY, SO WE COULDN'T ALLOW ANYBODY TO COME IN DURING THE MORNING PERIOD OF TIME.
IT WASN'T FINISHED UNTIL CLOSER, CLOSER TO THREE O'CLOCK.
AND THEY COULDN'T MAKE FOOD DELIVERIES AS WELL, THEY COULDN'T DO THE FOOD DELIVERIES.
FOOD DELIVERIES ARE, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE TOUGHER TO, UM, FIGURE OUT BECAUSE THOSE ARE AT, WE CAN SOMETIMES GET THE FOOD OUT AND WE CAN GET IT TO THE DOORS, BUT EACH ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING TO, MORE THAN LIKELY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THEY HAVEN'T SHOVELED THEIR OWN WALKS.
SO IT WOULD BE TAKING A DRIVER AND SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER TRYING TO NAVIGATE FROM, UH, AN UNRAVELED WALK UP TO THE DOORWAY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFICULTY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND WE HAVE FOR MANY YEARS, IS WILL, WILL THE FOOD DELIVERY RESUME TOMORROW? THEY WILL, YEAH.
DID WE HAVE, LIKE, IN THE PAST, UH, WHEN THERE WAS AN ANTICIPATED SNOW STORM, WE GAVE, UH, UM, THE PEOPLE ENROLLED IN MEALS AND WHEELS, LIKE AN EXTRA AMOUNT OF FOOD TO COVER THEM.
UH, DID WE DO THAT THIS TIME? WE DID FOR THE MONDAY MEAL, BUT NOT FOR THE TUESDAY MEAL, BECAUSE WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE THE HEAVY SNOW STORM ON FRIDAY, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS.
THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, FORECAST CHANGED DRASTICALLY AFTER WE LEFT ON FRIDAY.
AND IF YEAH, IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, DID, WAS THERE LIKE ANY LESSONS LEARNED FROM, YOU KNOW, THE MEAL DELIVERY PROGRAM? SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE IF THERE'S A MAJOR STORM, LIKE THE ONE WE WE HAD, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED, UH, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE EXTRA FOOD SO THEY WON'T MISS LIKE A DAY, LIKE I'M JUST SAYING.
WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW IF SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN AGAIN.
SHOULD, SHOULD WE GIVE, UM, SHOULD WE GIVE EVERYBODY LIKE AN EXTRA AMOUNT THAT COULD, UH, STORE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND KEEP, WAIT.
WE ORDER, IT'S CALLED MRE MEALS READY TO EAT.
WE ORDER TWO OF THOSE EVERY YEAR.
WE SEND ONE OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR BEFORE THE VERY FIRST SNOW STORM.
WE ASK THEM TO KEEP THOSE ON THE SHELF FOR THE, SO THAT WE CAN CALL THEM AND SAY, IF WE CAN'T GET OUT, IF WE USE THE FIRST ONE, THEN WE SEND OUT THE SECOND ONE.
UM, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY SNOW STORMS, WHICH HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, THEN WE WOULD JUST, UH, LET THEM KEEP THOSE MEALS AND THEY COULD USE THEM AT THEIR LEISURE.
DO WE, LIKE, REMIND PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY, WOULD WE REMIND PEOPLE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THIS EXTRA, YOU KNOW, FOOD THAT WE GAVE THEM SO THEY SHOULD SURE.
OUR STAFF, OUR STAFF SPENT ALL DAY YESTERDAY AND TODAY, CALLING THEM PERSONALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE OKAY AND THAT LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE, UH, THE STATUS IS OF THE PROGRAM.
THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB ON THAT.
WE'VE ALSO, I JUST WANNA MENTION, WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE TODAY, UM, UH, VOLUNTEERING AND DOING THE SNOW ANGELS, UM, AND WE HELPED, UM, NUMBER OF, UM, SENIORS, UM, UM, ALL OVER THE TOWN AND SOME OF THE VILLAGES, UH, GET THEIR DRIVEWAYS CLEARED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WALK, YOU
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KNOW, WALKS CLEARED.WE HAVE A, A FEW NEW, UH, VOLUNTEERS, UM, IS REALLY VERY, VERY PLEASED, UH, WITH TODAY'S RESPONSE OF THE SNOW ANGELS.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT TOO BECAUSE A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE, UH, HELPING ARE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH ALSO.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY.
WELL, I'M GLAD YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE, YOU KNOW, RFP AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH JOE.
NEXT, UH, ON THE AGENDA, IS THERE FORENSIC AUDITS REPORT OR, UM, KIMBERLY PROBABLY THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE LATER.
SHOULD WE DO THE AGENDA REVIEW? SURE.
SO YOU WANT CONTACT HER? UH, WE HAVE CJ AND GARRETT, YOU, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.
SHE WAS GETTING SET UP ON THE NIGHT.
DO YOU WANT TO COME UP NOW A QUESTION? SO I'M GONNA SEE WHAT I, OKAY.
CJ, WE, UH, YOU WANT TO SPEAK MAYBE ABOUT KIMBERLY'S ON? SHE'S ON.
OH, SEE, JASON? OR IS SHE CONTROLLED? BOOTH? YOU'LL BE AT 11:00 PM DUTY INSTEAD.
SO, OF COURSE I WANNA THANK, UM, THE DT, THE DPW STAFF, THE WATER STAFF, THE POLICE STAFF, THE PARK STAFF FOR THE ENORMOUS WORK THAT THEY DID OVER THIS LAST STORM.
UM, HEARING THE CALLS GOING BACK AND FORTH ALL NIGHT LONG.
IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO IT.
SO I, YOU DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO COMMEND THE HARD WORK THAT EACH OF THEM WAS OUT LATE AT NIGHT.
I THINK THEY GOT OFF LAST NIGHT AT 3:00 AM.
UM, JUST GOING OUT TO, UM, JUST TO GET THE RESIDUAL SNOW THAT THEY COULD SO WE CAN GET OUT THIS MORNING TO GO TO WORK.
I KNOW IN SOME AREAS THERE WAS COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT, UM, AREAS WAS NOT TOUCHED.
AND JUST AS, UH, COMMISSIONER LUCCHESE JUST EXPLAINED, YOU KNOW, WE GO OVER THOSE AREAS TWO AND THREE TIMES, AND THEN THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE CAN'T GET THROUGH SOME STREETS BECAUSE THERE ARE CARS BEING BLOCKED.
UM, AND, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, AGAIN, REMEMBER IF WE DO HAVE THESE ANTICIPATED STORMS, IF WE COULD JUST PLEASE MOVE OUR CARS SO STAFF CAN COME AND, AND CLEAR THE STREETS.
BUT AGAIN, I JUST REALLY WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE, UM, DPW STAFF MANAGEMENT, UH, RICH, FOND FRANK MODO AND ALL THE HARD WORK THEY DID AND THEIR STAFF AND THE FOREMAN THAT WAS OUT ALL OF THESE LAST, WITH THE LAST 24 HOURS.
JO JO, I SAID PARKS EARLIER, BUT JOLIE CASE OUT WAS REFERRING TO THE DP, BUT, OKAY.
I WANNA DO SOMETHING SEPARATELY, BUT, OKAY.
AND JO CASEY, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL STAFF BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS A CHALLENGING TIME AND THANK YOU RESIDENTS TO THOSE WHO REALLY TOOK THE TIME TO MOVE THEIR CARS AND GET EVERYTHING OUTTA THE WAY AND THEIR PATIENTS AS WE COME THROUGH AND TRY TO CLEAN UP, UM, THE STREETS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
I JUST HAD, IS KIMBERLY ON TWO? I JUST, I JUST HAD, UH, TWO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
ONE OF, UH, THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD IS, UM, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, CORRECTLY THAT THERE'S CARS THAT ARE PARKED ON THE ROADS, UM, AND THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO, UH, CLEAR THE ROADS.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD, UM, EXPAND, UM, THE LOCATIONS FOR, UM, UH, FREE PARKING.
YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES IN, UM, IN, UH, IN WESTCHESTER MAKE ALL THE MUNICIPAL, UH, PARKING AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, FREE.
AND, UM, I THOUGHT THAT FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN THE TOWN HALL, IF THERE WOULD BE A DESIGNATED AREA FOR SOME PEOPLE TO PARK THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE THEATER, YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING OF REACHING OUT, CAN'T WE CAN'T DO IT THERE 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT CLEAR IN CASE IT'S A WARMING CENTER OR A WELL, WELL, WELL, I WAS GOING SUGGEST ALL I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS THAT THEATER, YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER MAY BE, THERE COULD BE DESIGNATED AREAS BECAUSE EVEN WHEN IT'S A WARMING CENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'RE STILL AVAILABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER FILLED UP ALL OF THE SPOTS, BUT I'M, I WAS THINKING, UM, OF REACHING OUT TO ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, AND ASKING IF THE SCHOOLS COULD MAKE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR FREE.
AND I ALSO THINK THE PARKING AUTHORITY, UM, UH, SHOULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A, A MAJOR STORM, I THINK THEY SHOULD MAKE, UM, UH, PARKING, UM, AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR FREE.
I'M SORRY, BUT DIDN'T YOU HAD THAT CONVERSATION THE LAST TIME RIGHT? WITH THE, I KNOW YOU'RE THE LIAISON TO THE PARKING AUTHORITY.
I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T HAD NOT, I HAVEN'T HAD SUCCESS, BUT I OH, OKAY.
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THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH, UM, WHEN YOU, TO ME, PARKING ON STREETS IS REALLY CREATING PROBLEMS WITH A, IS CREATING MAJOR PROBLEMS FOR DPW RIGHT? AS YOU MENTIONED.SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, A BETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, A BETTER, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT THAT I HAD WAS, UM, I'M STILL GETTING COMPLAINTS, UM, FROM SOME PEOPLE, UM, ABOUT THE MET LARGE MOUNDS OF SNOW, UH, ESPECIALLY IN COLLEGES.
IT'S GONNA BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, PAUL.
NO, WE HAVE NO PLACE TO, NO PLACE TO PUT IT.
BUT I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, DO, UH, NEW YORK CITY IS DOING AND HIRE PART-TIMERS WHO, UM, UH, COULD HELP, UH, CLEAR SOME OF THE MOUNDS THAT ARE BLOCKING PEOPLE'S, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAYS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ON TOWN PROPERTY, UH, THERE'S GIGANTIC MOUNDS.
SOME OF IT'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE FEET HIGH, AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY WITHOUT A, A PLOW TO, TO GET RID OF IT.
AND I SORT OF THINK THAT THE, THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO IMMEDIATELY RESPOND.
UH, OF COURSE, DURING THE LAST STORM, IT TOOK THREE OR FOUR WEEKS.
AND I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD AUTHORIZE, UM, RICH AND, UM, AND KIMBERLY, UH, TO USE, UH, TO EITHER HIRE PART-TIMERS OR TO, UH, AUTHORIZE OVERTIME IF THEY FEEL THAT, UM, IT'S NECESSARY.
AND IF THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE GOING ON FOR, UM, PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME, THE LAST STORM IT TOOK, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WORKING ON IT FOR THREE, FOUR WEEKS.
UH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
BECAUSE I'M JUST SAYING THAT, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE YEAH.
IF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD SAY, TORI, WHEN I SPOKE TO RICH TODAY, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT IF YOU AUTHORIZE IT, UH, WHY DON'T WE JUST AUTHORIZE HIM TO WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY? YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT THE CONCERN CONTINGENCY, I MEAN THIS FIRST, BUT WE WE'RE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM THE CONTROLLER, THEN WHY DON'T WE, THAT'S A PROBABLY SHOULD ASK.
TREMENDOUS FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES.
RIGHT? BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I KNOW SAVE ONE LIFE, BUT WHERE'S THE MONEY? THERE'S DEFINITELY, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A MAJOR QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM.
AND THERE'S ALSO, UH, I THINK IF THE GOVERNOR DECLARES AN EMERGENCY, ISN'T THERE, UM, UM, REIMBURSEMENT FOR, UM, FOR SOME OF OUR QUALITY, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THERE IS DISASTER RECOVERY.
IF, IF WE MEET A THRESHOLD, WE, BEING THE COUNTY MEETS A THRESHOLD, I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND WHAT THE AMOUNT IS, UM, THEN THAT CAN BE DECLARED A, A DISASTER AREA, AND WE CAN GET REIMBURSEMENT.
THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO AGGREGATE ALL OUR COSTS, KEEP THE RECEIPTS, AND IT WOULD NOT JUST BE FOR THE, FOR THE TOWN.
BUT I THINK IT'S A, A CUMULATIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
JUST TO, TO CLARIFY, THERE'S SOMETHING THERE, THERE IS ONE THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF I CAN, UM, MAKE A PLEA.
PART OF THE PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS SNOW, AND I HATE TO BE THE BEARER OF BAD TIDINGS, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER LARGE SNOW STORM POTENTIALLY HAPPENING ON TUESDAY WHERE THEY'RE PREDICTING UP TO 18 INCHES.
AGAIN,
AND YES, SMALL THAT, BUT, WELL, RELATIVELY, IT'S RELATIVELY, BUT, UM, IF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS AMOUNT OF SNOW, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
BUT IF THEY, IT'S SO DIFFICULT, AND WE ARE REALLY EMPATHETIC BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE HAS BEEN OUT THERE SHOVELING AWAY.
BUT, UM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE THROW THE SNOW FROM YOUR DRIVEWAY ONTO THE LAWN IF YOU HAVE IT.
INSTEAD OF OUT INTO THE STREET.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE PLOWS, AS, AS, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON MENTIONED, THEY WERE THERE ALL NIGHT PLOWING AND HAVING TO COME BACK AND RELOW AND RELOW AND WITH THE SNOW GOING OUT ONTO THE, THE ROADWAY, THERE WERE BLOCKING CARS AGAIN.
UM, SO, AND CREATING AN ICY CONDITION, AN UNSAFE CONDITION, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ENTIRELY, AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
UH, WE HAD TWO, TWO TIRES BLOW OUT BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TRY TO AVOID A VEHICLE THAT WAS PARKED ON THE STREET MM-HMM
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OFF THE STREET.
AND NOW THAT TOOK THAT PLOW OUT.
AND WHEN YOU LOSE TWO PLOWS, WELL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PUTTING DOWN SALT, AND NOW YOU LOST THAT, AND NOW YOU HAVE AN ICY CONDITION INSTEAD OF HAVING A SALTED ROAD.
THERE ARE LOTS OF RAMIFICATIONS
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AND WE DIDN'T USE TO TOW, BUT NOW WE'RE TOWING BECAUSE, UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE FINES ARE ENOUGH AND IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT APPLY ON THE ROADS.IT'S UNSAFE FOR ANYBODY WHO COMES ALONG.
AND IF YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR ON THE STREET, UH, YOU THEN COME OUT AND YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THE SNOW OFF THE CAR, WHERE YOU GONNA PUT IT? IT'S GONNA WIND UP ON THE STREET, IT'S GONNA DRIVE AWAY.
AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA CALL AND SAY TO THE TOWN, WE DIDN'T PLOW THE STREET.
NOW WE HAVE TO SEND OUT A CREW.
AND, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, I THINK THE FINE SHOULD BE WHATEVER IT COSTS TO SEND OUT THAT CREW.
NOW THAT SOUNDS ROUGH, BUT THE MESSAGE HAS GOT TO GO OUT THERE.
WHEN WE SAY GET OFF THE ROADS, WE NEED YOU TO GET OFF THE ROADS AND THEN TO FIND THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PLOWING THEIR DRIVEWAY INTO THE STREET, UH, THINKING MAYBE CARS WILL GO OVER IT AND SQUASH IT DOWN.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE RESIDENTS SAID THAT THEIR DRIVEWAYS WERE BLOCKED BY SNOW THAT WAS PLOWED.
IT'S UNCLEAR FROM WHETHER IT'S A TOWN PLOW OR SOMEONE ELSE'S PRIVATE PLOW, BUT THEY COULDN'T GET OUT OF THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY.
NOW THAT'S A SITUATION WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE CAN'T BE TOO MANY OF THOSE.
BUT IF THERE'S THAT KIND OF SITUATION, WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS.
WELL, THERE'S DIFFICULTY IN THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PLOW THE ROADS TO GET THEM CLEAR.
THEY CAN'T STOP AND THEN PLOW.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT, WE ARE JUST NOT USED TO THIS KIND OF THING.
THE ISSUE, THE ISSUE I SAW YESTERDAY, NOW I'M A WHITE PLAINS RESIDENT, UM, I CLOSE THE GREENER.
A NEIGHBOR PUT ALL THEIR SNOW IN THE STREET AND THEN THE PLOW HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO PUSH IT.
AND NOW I'M BLOCKED IN A SECOND TIME.
THEY'RE JUST PUSHING THE SNOW.
TO BE GOOD TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SNOW IS HEAVY, PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE HEALTH ISSUES CONTINUING TO REMOVE THE SNOW OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND JUST TO GO ON THE, UM, LEAVING THE CARS ON THE ROAD DISCUSSION VERY QUICKLY, UM, MY OFFICE WILL BE DENYING ANY CLAIMS THAT SOMEONE LEFT THEIR CAR ON THE ROAD AND WAS HIT BY A PLOW IF THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE NOW.
SO PEOPLE EVEN ARE MORE ENTICED TO GET IT OFF THE ROAD, KEEP THEIR CAR SAFE, KEEP EMPLOYEES SAFE TO THE BEST OF EVERYONE'S ABILITY.
LET ME, AND THERE WAS ONE ASPECT I JUST WANT, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T FINISH BEFORE, ALTHOUGH, UM, COUNCILMAN SHEEN DID REFER TO IT.
THE, THE TRUCKS COME ALONG ONCE THE ROADS ARE CLEAR AND THEY SALT WHEN THE SNOW IS PLOWED FROM THE DRIVEWAYS ONTO THE ROADWAY, IT NEGATES THE, THE EFFECT OF THE SALT.
THAT'S WHERE IT THEN CAN FREEZE OVER.
AND SO THAT THEY HAVE TO COME ALONG AND SALT AGAIN.
AND SO THAT'S TIME AND SUPPLIES AND COST.
AND THE COST IS, COST IS MULTIPLIED COST.
BUT LET ME JUST, WE DO GET DOWN SOMEWHERE.
LET ME MENTION AGAIN WHY I THINK WE SHOULD AUTHORIZE OVERTIME OR, UH, RICH TO HIRE, UM, PART-TIMERS LIKE NEW YORK CITY IS DOING TO HELP REMOVE SOME OF THE LARGE MOUNDS THAT ARE IMPACTING PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO EASILY ACCESS, UM, GET OUT, GET OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
IF IT'S, IF THERE'S ANOTHER BIG SNOWSTORM ON TUESDAY, WHICH YOU SAID IS POSSIBLE, UM, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE GIGANTIC MOUNDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, COULD BE FIVE, SIX FEET HIGH, REALLY HIGH.
UM, AND NOW THE PLOWS ARE GONNA HAVE TO PUSH MORE SNOW ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH IS GONNA MAKE IT EVEN WORSE AND EVEN LESS SAFE.
SO, SO MY FAILING IS IF WE WOULD ACT NOW PROACTIVELY AND SAY TO RICH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE BASICALLY A WEEK'S NOTICE, DO WHATEVER YOU CAN, UH, TO GET RID OF THE SNOW THAT IS BLOCKING, YOU KNOW, THESE LARGE AMOUNTS.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST LIKE A SMALL LITTLE AMOUNT LIKE SAY ON JOE IN FRONT OF JOE'S HOUSE.
THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN HAS EXPERIENCED THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THE GIGANTIC MOUNDS.
IF HE, IF WE WOULD AUTHORIZE THAT, THEN RICH WOULD BE ABLE TO USE HIS JUDGMENT AND THEN, AND WITHOUT, AND THEN TO HIRE WHOM IT WOULD EITHER, EITHER USE OVERTIME FOR THE EMPLOYEES IF HE WANTS, OR IF, IF THE STAFF ARE OVERWORKED BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING NONSTOP.
UH, IF HE CAN'T, IF YOU KNOW HE WANTS TO GIVE THEM BREAKS, THEN AUTHORIZE HIM TO, UH, REACH OUT TO PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO COULD, AND WE COULD JUST SAY, LISTEN, UH, WE NEED THESE MOUNDS PLANTED.
THERE ARE TWO, TWO ISSUES AS, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE.
NUMBER ONE, THE COST, WHEREAS THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SENSE OF WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE, BUT
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WHERE IS THE MONEY GONNA COME FROM? THAT'S ISSUE NUMBER ONE.NUMBER TWO, WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT THE SNOW? UM, THAT'S IN THE CITY.
THEY, FOR THE LAST, THEY MELTED SNOW STORM.
THEY HAD, THEY YEAH, THEY HAD BIG VATS THAT THEY WERE TAKING THE SNOW, THEY MELTED IT AND THEY, AND MELTED IT.
YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE, WE HAVE A, A BIG, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHY DON'T WE ASK OUR COMMISSIONER OF DPW BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF, RIGHT? THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY TAKING AWAY PILES RIGHT UP UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF THIS LA LATEST SNOWSTORM.
AND SO LET'S ASK THEM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PILES ON THE CORNERS, THE PILE.
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MORE OF THE CUL-DE-SACS, THE MAJOR BIG PILES.
LIKE I WAS, UH, ON, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE IN FRONT OF A COUPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOMES AND THE PILES ARE JUST, SOMEONE WANTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN FRONT OF A DRIVEWAY, THESE FIVE FOOT HIGH PILES? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT FROM ONE OF THE UNITS.
SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN, I THINK WE WOULD BE, SORRY, ARE YOU SAYING THAT OUR STAFF PILED UP FIVE FOOT HIGH PILE IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE, THOSE ARE THE, THAT WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT.
BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE, I, UH, SPOKE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SEAN, YOU KNOW, I MET WITH HIM EARLIER AND YOU KNOW, HE SAID, I SAID, DO YOU THINK THAT IT WOULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SENSE FOR THE TOWN TO AUTHORIZE? UM, AND YOU KNOW, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT COULD HELP BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE, THAT'S, I DON'T WANNA, THE QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THESE PILES? ARE THEY IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY? BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE OUR STAFF DOING THAT.
HE BASICALLY, I CAN SEE ON THE CORNERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO, I'M SAYING, SO IT COULD BE ON THE CORNERS, BUT THERE COULD BE OBSTRUCTIONS.
BUT I'M SAYING HE ASKED HIM AND NOT THE, EACH COMPLAINT THAT I'VE GOTTEN, I FORWARDED TO HIM, AND I ALSO SENT OUT AN EMAIL YESTERDAY AT RICHARD'S REQUEST ASKING PEOPLE TO DIRECTLY REACH OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ON DEPARTMENT, WHICH THEY, WHICH SOME PEOPLE ARE, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE DOING MM-HMM
UM, AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BLAME THE TOWN FOR NOT TRYING, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
SO I'M, NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY SAY THAT OUR STAFF IS NOT TRYING, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING POSSIBLE.
I DON'T WANT, PEOPLE COULD, BUT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE UPSET, THEY, I UNDERSTAND POINT FINGERS OR WHATEVER.
I KNOW, BUT THEY HAVE, THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED WIN.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A WINNER LIKE THIS IN HOW MANY YEARS? IN 10 YEARS? 10 MORE, MORE THAN THAT.
I GOTTEN A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COMPLIMENTED THE TOWN AND A LOT OF, AND THEN THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE UPSET HAVE SHOULD HELP THIS PARTICULAR WINTER.
RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD NEED THE PICTURES.
WE HAVE TO TOUCH THAT WITH THE, IF WE COULD JUST HAVE THE PICTURES SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
I THINK THAT'LL BE, SO IF, SO, AS, AS YOU ARE RIDING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE OR YOU'RE IN YOUR CAR, IF YOU HAVE THE PICTURES OF THESE POUND, THESE MOUNDS OF SNOW, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO THE COMMISSION SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
SO WHY DON'T YOU SEND HIM PERMISSION? WHY DON'T YOU SEND HIM PICTURES? YEAH, BUT I'M JUST, WELL, ALL I'M SAYING IS BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK, BUT WE NEED TO SEE THE PICTURES SO WE CAN FORECAST, SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COST IS.
SO WE CAN ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS.
BUT LEMME JUST SAY BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK, ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE AUTHORIZE RICH TO WORK WITH KIMBERLY.
UM, UM, AND THEN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM TO COME UP WITH, IF, IF THEY NEED, IF RICH FEELS THAT THEY NEED THE HELP AND HE FEELS THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE BETTER PREPARED.
UM, I'M SAYING THAT WE SHOULD SAY TO RICH AND KIMBERLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR JUDGMENT ON THIS.
WE'RE GONNA BA WE'RE BASICALLY NOT GOING TO STAND IN THE WAY OF YOU DOING THE BEST POSSIBLE JOB, UH, POSSIBLE.
AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS WAY NOBODY COULD POINT FINGERS BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA POINT FINGERS AT PUBLIC WORKS.
AND PUBLIC WORKS DOESN'T, SHOULDN'T, UH, POINT FINGERS ON THE TOWN AND SAY, OH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE MONEY.
WE SHOULD JUST SAY DO THE JOB.
BECAUSE SAFETY IS LET'S, THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO KIMBERLY ANYWAY.
RIGHT? BUT, BUT IN A WAY, YOU'RE, YOU ARE POINTING FINGERS BECAUSE DID WE AUTHORIZE OVERTIME FOR MONDAY NIGHT OR SUNDAY NIGHT? NO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A JOB TO DO AND THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND THEY DO IT AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
THEY WORKED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STORM TO THE POINT OF EXHAUSTION.
AND THEN FINALLY THEY WENT HOME YESTERDAY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK TO COME BACK 7:00 PM TO COME BACK THIS MORNING AT 7:00 AM THE SUN WAS OUT TILL THREE IN THE MORNING, RIGHT? SOME WAS SEVEN.
AND SOME OUT UNTIL THREE IN THE MORNING.
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS GOOD, LET'S AUTHORIZE, BUT WHY DON'T WE LET THEM DO THEIR JOB AND THEY DO IT VERY WELL.
WILL IT TAKE SOME TIME TO GET ALL THE PILES? YES, IT WILL.
BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN DO.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN TIRES GET BLOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT MOVING THEIR CARS, THERE'S A COST TO THAT.
AND PART OF THAT COST IS WE DON'T HAVE TWO VEHICLES IN ORDER TO MOVE THE SNOW THE WAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO.
AND SO THERE'S, AND THAT'S, BUT WE DO HAVE TO PREPARE FOR WHAT MIGHT BE COMING NEXT TUESDAY IF WE HAVE TO DO SOME EXTRA IN BETWEEN.
AND IF, AND IF THE COMMISSIONER
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DETERMINED.YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
BOTH ARE SAYING THAT WOULD NOT PREPARED.
THESE ARE UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
HE'S AN EXPERT NOT TO DPW STAFF.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST A ASK HIM, JUST SAY TO RICH'S WHAT WE SAID A LONG TIME AGO.
WHY DON'T WE ASK THE COMMISSIONER? YEAH, I AGREED.
SO WE CAN WE'LL TALK TO THE COMMISSIONER.
I DID SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONER.
HE SAID, HE SAID THAT WE SHOULD, UH, HE SAID THERE'S NO MONEY IN HIS BUDGET FOR THE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, COSTS.
AND HE SAID SPEAK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING TO YOU.
SO WE COULD AUTHORIZE IF NECESSARY, IF HE FEELS IT'S NECESSARY, IF HE FEELS EASY.
AND WE'VE HAD MANY YEARS OF JUST SPEND MONEY, SPEND MONEY, SPEND MONEY.
WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THE FORENSIC AUDIT, IT'S, SO WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY? WE, WE DO HAVE A PHONE BALANCE FOR EMERGENCY.
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, ACTUAL EMERGENCY, STATE OF EMERGENCY, NO EMERGENCY.
IF WE DO NEED TO AUTHORIZE HOW MUCH COULD IT POSSIBLY COST TO CLEAR SPECIFIC AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED? I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.
SO WE'RE GONNA HEAR THAT WE'RE DOWN A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS MM-HMM
AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO GET THAT HUN, SOME OF THAT A HUNDRED MILLION BUCKS.
BUT WE'RE JUST STOPPING LAW GOVERNMENT FUNCTION.
BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO SAY, UH, LET'S AUTHORIZE MONEY.
IF WE HAVE TO, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO FIND A WAY.
BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHERE DO WE CUT? BUT WE ALWAYS ASK THEM FOR THIS REQUEST, AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO BASE IT ON.
SO WHY DON'T WE GET THE PICTURES AND WHY DON'T WE SEE WHERE THESE AREAS ARE AT AND WE CAN TALK TO OUR STAFF SO WE CAN MAKE COMMISSIONER HERE TODAY.
SO HE'S WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK.
BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING SALARY INCREASES TO THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS.
WHO'S WORKING? IT'S ANOTHER $5,000 TODAY ON THE AGENDA.
KNOW WHY DON'T KEEP BRINGING THIS UP TO YOU.
BECAUSE BASICALLY I WOULD RATHER, UH, AUTHORIZE, NOT GIVE A SALARY INCREASE AND AUTHORIZE, UM, AUTHORIZE US TO ADDRESS SAFETY.
BY, BY GIVING A SALARY INCREASE TO THE PEOPLE TO KEEP THEM FROM LEAVING IN A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT TO GIVE SALARY INCREASES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT IN THE TRUCKS.
I WAS ACTUALLY OUT WITH THE PERSON WHO GOT THAT INCREASE DURING THE SNOW STORM AND TO SEE WHAT THEY GO THROUGH, YOU WERE PROBABLY IN BED, YOU TO SEE WHAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AND THE COOPERATION THAT THEY HAVE WITH HIM DIRECTING IT.
AND YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT GIVING HIM $5,000.
WELL, I THINK YOU NEED TO WITNESS THE WORK THAT HE DOES ALL NIGHT.
I NEED TO WITNESS IT AND THEN I THINK, I THINK AND THINK ON THE TRUCKS
OKAY? I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE KIMBERLY TO HEAR FROM THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATION IS.
SO WHEN WE, WE COULD TRY TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HIM.
BUT CAN WE MOVE TO KIMBERLY? 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING, I DO WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.
IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, THE SNOW REMOVAL OR MELTING OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, THE MONEY WOULD NOT COME FROM FUND BALANCE.
IT WOULD COME FROM CONTINGENCY.
IF THERE IS CONTINGENCY AVAILABLE, IF THERE IS CONTINGENCY AVAILABLE, I GUESS THAT LEADS IT INTO THE DISCUSSION.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE FINDINGS OF THE HISTORICAL BUDGETARY PROCESS FROM THE FORENSIC AUDIT THAT COVERED 2020 TO 2023.
AND ALTHOUGH I WAS NOT EMPLOYED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG DURING THE AUDIT PERIOD, I DID PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION IN 2020 AND 2023.
THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT RECONCILIATION BETWEEN THE APPROVED BUDGETS AND THE ACTUAL FINANCIALS.
FOR EXAMPLE, A KEY FINDING IDENTIFIED WAS THAT THE APPROVED BUDGET AMOUNTS THAT WERE PUBLISHED DID NOT MATCH THOSE REPORTS THAT WERE ISSUED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
THIS MAY BE BE A RESULT OF UNAPPROVED TRANSFERS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD APPROVAL, A LACK OF QUARTERLY FINANCIAL STATEMENT REVIEW.
THERE WAS ALSO EXCESSIVE USE OF THE CONTINGENCY, WHICH TIES UP RESOURCES AND SUPPORTS UNSTRUCTURED EXPENDITURE PROJECTIONS, WHICH I SPOKE ABOUT IN MY REPORT.
AND THEN THERE WAS THE EXCESSIVE USE OF FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.
THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN THAT I HAVE PUT FORWARD, UM, GOING FORWARD, THAT IS THAT I HAVE IMPLEMENTED QUARTERLY REVIEW OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, REDUCE THE BUDGETARY CONTINGENCY AMOUNTS, AND REDUCE THE USE OF APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE AS THE COMPTROLLER.
I WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW AND ADVISE THE BUDGET SUBMISSION IS FINALIZED BY THE SUPERVISOR.
YOU, YOU GAVE US A NICE LAUNDRY LIST.
COULD YOU JUST GO BACK TO THAT LAUNDRY LIST AND JUST GIVE US EXAMPLES? UM, YEAH.
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SO WE HAVE BUDGET TO ACTUAL AMOUNT.SO WE HAVE A BUDGETARY AMOUNT, AND THEN WE HAVE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES.
AND DURING THE, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING THE YEAR, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE MAY HAVE A BUDGET THAT GOES, UH, A BUDGET LINE THAT GOES OVER THE EXPENDITURES ARE IN EXCESS OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED.
AND SO IN THAT CASE, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE INCIDENTS THAT WHERE THE, UH, BUDGETED DOLLARS AND OTHER GL LINES WERE MOVED TO COVER THOSE EXPENDITURES.
AND THEN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WERE PRESENTED, AND THEN POSSIBLY THE BUDGETED MONIES WERE MOVED BACK IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT COULD BE ONE EXAMPLE, THE LACK OF MONITORING WITH THE QUARTERLY FINANCIALS.
UM, SO THERE AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY FOR, UM, OVER BUDGETING.
UNDER BUDGETING, UM, LACK OF MONITORING WHERE YOU HAVE AN EXCESS OF EXPENDITURE OUTFLOWS AND, UM, NOT SUFFICIENT INFLOWS COMING IN TO COVER THAT.
AND WE SEE THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE CONTINUATION OF NOT, UM, INCREASING THE REVENUES OR INCREASING THE TAX RATES TO COINCIDE WITH THOSE EXCESSIVE EXPENDITURES THAT RISE GRADUALLY EACH YEAR.
UM, THE EXCESSIVE USE OF FUND BALANCE, I BELIEVE THAT WHEN I FIRST CAME IN, I, WHEN I VIEWED THE, UM, FUND BALANCE, UH, APPROPRIATIONS THAT THEY WERE AT LEVELS THAT I HAVE NEVER WITNESSED BEFORE AND CONTINUED, UM, IN EACH BUDGET YEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ABLE TO BE USED TO DRIVE THE TAX RATE DOWN, THE EXCESSIVE USE OF CONTINGENCY WHERE I SAW CONTINGENCY FUNDS IN EXCESS OF 4%, WHERE THEY SHOULD BE SOME 5%, 6%, THEY SHOULD BE AT, AT, AT THE MOST, PROBABLY 1% OR OR 2%.
SO WHEN THE CONTINGENCY IS NOT USED, IT ROLLS UP INTO THE FUND BALANCE AND THEN IT BUILDS THE FUND BALANCE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, A SURPLUS THAT GOES AND INCREASES THAT EQUITY LINE AT THE END OF THE YEAR BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T USE THE FUNDS.
UM, AND SO THEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT OVER PADDING YOUR BUDGET.
UM, ARE WE CALLING IT A FORENSIC AUDIT NOW? I THOUGHT IT WAS A REPORT.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? SO I AM NOT A FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ASK THE AUDITORS THAT CAME IN, BUT I, I COULDN'T CLARIFY THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.
WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN AUDIT AND A REPORT IS.
MAYBE THE AUDIT ITSELF IS THE FUNCTION OF THE STEPS THEY WENT THROUGH TO LOOK THROUGH THE LEDGER, AND THEN THE REPORT IS A RESULT OF THAT AUDIT.
UM, IN TERM, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, MODIFICATIONS IN THE BUDGET I SEE ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW, CO ONE AND CO2 IS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2026, BUDGET TRANSFERS.
UH, COULD YOU GO OVER WHAT THE, THE 2026 BUDGET TRANSFERS ARE THEN GIVE US THE SPECIFICS SO AT LEAST WE WILL KNOW, UM, WHAT, UH, THE CHANGES ARE.
YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING IF YOU I DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF ME.
WELL, THEY ARE POSTED ON THE WEB.
WELL, COULD YOU, COULD, COULD WE READ IT NOW? I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU, THE DEPUTY PREPARES THE TRANSFERS, SO I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THEM WITH HER.
WELL, COULD, WELL, IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT? NO, I'M, I'M ASKING, IT'S ALSO IN THE PACKET THAT CO SENT OUT ON, WELL, I'M ASKING YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED ON FRIDAY.
I'M, I'M HOLDING THEM BOTH OVER AND, UM, UH, TOMORROW.
DID YOU NOT READ WHAT WAS SENT ON FRIDAY? I'M, I'M, I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WANT MORE THE PUBLIC TO BE MORE AWARE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OF ALL THE COSTS.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, THE, THE RESOLUTIONS FOR, UM, AUTHORIZING THESE BUDGET TRANSFERS SHOULD BE, UH, SPECIFIED AND WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON ALL BUDGET TRANSFERS DURING THE YEAR.
THE PACKET ON FRIDAY THAT, THAT HOLLY SENT OVER.
SO THOSE QUESTIONS, I'M SORRY.
NO, I'M JUST, NO, I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT SURE.
HOLLY SENT OUT A HUGE PACKET OF ALL THE BACKUPS.
SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION'S IN THERE.
SO WHAT QUESTIONS FROM THAT PACKET? ALL I'M, ALL I'M ASKING.
WELL, I, I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION READ.
ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE PUB READ PUBLICLY WHAT EACH OF THE, THE, IT'S ON THE BUDGET TRANSFERS ARE ON WEBSITE, PAUL, SO WHAT QUESTION DO YOU HAVE? THAT'S, I'M TRYING, WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SO WE CAN, WE CAN FURTHER THE RESEARCH QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
THERE'S NO, I I BASICALLY FEEL THAT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TIGHTENING UP OUR PROCESS, I FEEL THAT, UH, SINCE THERE'S BUDGET TRANSFERS ALL THE TIME, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OF ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT, UM, THAT THE CONTROLLER HAD IS TO, UM, BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE PUBLICLY WITH ALL BUDGET TRANSFERS.
THIS IS SOMETHING IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YEAH.
AND SO THE THING, THOSE BUDGET TRANSFERS ARE ADOPTED
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BY THE BOARD.I THINK THAT, UM, NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE WERE BUDGET TRANSFERS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF, UM, A RESOLUTION AND ADOPTION THAT TOOK PLACE.
OKAY, WELL I'M GONNA READ, I'M GONNA READ 2026.
THE, THE, IT SAYS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2026, BUDGET TRANSFER.
I'D LIKE YOU TO READ EVERY ITEM ON THE TWO BUDGET.
OKAY, SO, UM, I AM ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
YOU CAN GO TO GREENBERG NEW YORK, UH, NY.GOV OR COM, I GUESS IT IS STILL.
UH, AND IF YOU CLICK ON CO ONE, THAT'S 2000, WHICH IS CO ONE.
THERE IS A LIST THAT ANYBODY COULD READ THAT WE INSISTED THAT BE SENT TO US, ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ON FRIDAY AND IT WAS SENT.
AND SO THERE'S AN INSURANCE EXPENSE.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THE BUDGET LINES TOO? YES.
'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE.
UH, 8 19, 10 54, 300 TOWN AND TIRE INSURANCE EXPENSE, UH, INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF 1080 $7.
THAT'S COMING FROM CONTINGENCY 1080 $7.
NEXT IS B 19 30 54, 300 TOWN OUTSIDE INSURANCE EXPENSE, $3,964 TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY $3,964.
NEXT ONE IS F 19 10 54, 300 CONSOLIDATED WATER INSURANCE EXPENSE, 1080 $9 TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY 1080 $9 SS NINETEEN TEN FIVE FOUR THREE HUNDRED CONSOLIDATED SEWER INSURANCE EXPENSE, $78 TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY, $78 THAT WAS SENT TO ALL OF US.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO GENERAL FUNDS.
THE WATER FUND AND THE SEWER FUND BUDGET OVERAGES FOR 2025.
AND WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM THE CONTINGENCY TO COVER THOSE BECAUSE BY LAW WE HAVE TO, OKAY.
IT'D BE HELPFUL IF YOU READ IT YOURSELF.
SO WHY I'M, BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT GONNA OBJECT BECAUSE KIMBERLY, RIGHT NOW, UH, LET'S, LET'S GO.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHICH ONE OF THOSE THAT I READ ABOUT INSURANCE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, I WANT, I WANT THE BUDGET, ALL THE BUDGET TRANSFERS TO BE, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE.
AND I THINK THAT EVERY TIME WE HAVE A BUDGET TRANSFER, WE SHOULD BASICALLY BE SPECIFIC AND LET, WE HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT IF WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING REALLY HARD TO CUT COSTS.
SO COULD YOU READ IT? BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY YOU KEEP SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT TRANSPARENT? 'CAUSE IF IT'S EVERYTHING IS ON THE WEBSITE, WHY DON'T YOU, I JUST, I'M ASKING YOU, YOU JUST SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU READ IT BECAUSE YOU, I DON'T HAVE MY COMPUTER WITH ME.
YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE A COMPUTER RIGHT IN FRONT.
YOU, YOU JUST SAID, BUT WHICH TOPIC DID YOU, OH, I WANT, I WANT YOU TO READ EVERY BOOK.
OH, YOU DIDN'T READ IT, DID YOU? I DID READ IT.
I WANT YOU TO READ THE B UH, THE, UH, THERE'S NO ARGUMENT.
BASICALLY I'M ASKING YOU TO READ CO2 AND YOU JUST LIKE, YOU READ CO ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14.
NO, BECAUSE YOU, YOU HAVE TO PUT ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SENT, YOU ASKED US.
LET'S NOT, YOU ASKED US INSULT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU ASKED US TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THE DOCUMENTS ON FRIDAY.
AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR ME TO READ EVERYBODY YOU READ, YOU READ ONE OF THEM.
YOU DIDN'T READ OTHER, THE OTHER ONE.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT, SO IF WE, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? OKAY.
IF, IF WE HAD IT IN ORDER TO READ AND IT'S ONLINE ACCESSIBLE, I'M LOOKING AT IT TOO, AND READING ALONG AS FRANCIS IS READING AND AS, AS THE COMP CONTROLLER SAID, IT IS LEGALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
BUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA READ IT, YOU WON'T VOTE FOR IT.
AND, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS AND IT IS AVAILABLE.
I, I'M MAKING, I AM MAKING A STATEMENT RIGHT NOW THAT BASICALLY KIMBERLY SAID THAT WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF, UM, OF ADDRESSING, UM, CHANGES DURING THE YEAR.
AND I'M, I FEEL THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CAN DO IS, UM, IS PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, MORE TRANSPARENCY.
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COULD YOU READ IT? I'M GONNA READ IT.I'LL READ EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
CO2 I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET MORE TRANSPARENT THAN THIS.
OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE ON THE WEB, THE GL LINES ARE THERE WITH THE DEBITS AND THE CREDITS AND WE GET QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
SO YOU AND YOU RECEIVED THOSE EMAILS AND THEN I'M DOING THE QUARTERLY REVIEW OF ALL THE FINANCIALS, SO I'LL CATCH ANYTHING.
OKAY, SO THE, THE, TO BE HONEST, THE, THERE'S A CHANGE IN BU BUREAU OF BUILDINGS, UH, SALARIES, UM, UH, 9,620.
UH, WAIT, YEAH, COULD YOU READ THE ONES ABOVE THAT TOWN? ENTIRE INSURANCE EXPENSES, UH, 15,374, UH, TOWN ENTIRE CONTINGENCY, UM, A DECREASED 15,374, UH, TOWN OUTSIDE INSURANCE EXPENSE FOR, UH, 45,693, UM, TOWN OUTSIDE CONTINGENCY, UM, 45 6 93.
UH, THEN THERE'S CONSOLIDATED, UM, WATER INSURANCE EXPENSES AND CONTINGENCY 29,093.
UM, BROOK PUMP STATION INSURANCE EXPENSES AND CONTINGENCY 6 42, UH, CONSOLIDATED SEWER INSURANCE EXPENSES CONTINGENCY 3 1 0 5.
THEN, UH, WE HAVE, UH, TO COVER THE TOWN'S 2006 GENERAL LIABILITY, UH, UM, INSURANCE, UM, BUREAU BUILDINGS.
UM, IT'S, UH, INCREASE AMOUNT 9 6 2 1.
AND THEN IT SAYS DECREASE, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, UH, DECREASE AMOUNT, 9 6 2 1.
AND I'D LIKE AND SPECIFIC ON THAT.
AND THEN TO COVER THE BUILDING, I INSPECT YOUR SALARY BUDGET INCORRECTLY.
UM, AND UH, IT SAYS 37 30,000, UM, AND PROFESSIONAL $37,000.
IT SAYS TO COVER ITS SALARY BUDGET INCORRECTLY.
SO I JUST WANT TO, I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN, UH, BECAUSE YOU INDICATED, UH, IN AN EMAIL KIMBERLY, UH, UH, LAST WEEK THAT WE HAVE TO, THE 37,000 IS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
I I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO COVER THE TOWN'S GENERAL LI THE BILL, THE, THE SALARIES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE WERE GONNA INCREASE THE BUILDING I INSPECTORS SALARY BY 5,000 TO MAKE A 2 35 INSTEAD OF TWO 30.
AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT'S BEING VOTED ON.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD BE SPEC SPECIFIC, THAT WAS ALREADY, THAT WAS A MISTAKE.
UH, WELL, WHAT A DATA ENTRY MISTAKE BY ONE OF MY STAFF, IT WAS ALREADY PRESENTED AT THE SALARY AND VOTED ON, BUT WHEN THEY PUBLISHED THE BUDGET AND THEY ENTERED THE DATA, THEY PUT THE WRONG NUMBER IN.
SO WE'RE JUST CORRECTING THE MISTAKE THAT ONE OF MY STAFF.
SO, SO WHERE, HOW IS THAT BEING CORRECTED? IS IT BEING CORRECTED BY RESOLUTION? WELL, THERE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT 9,621 SHOULD BE THE $5,000 CORRECTION.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A, A, A BIG WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT, UH, GIVING, UM, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE ABILITY TO, UH, UH, SPEND MONEY, UH, RE UH, UH, ON ADDITIONAL EXPENSES SO WE CAN REMOVE MOUNDS AND INCREASE SAFETY.
AND YOU'RE GIVING SOMEBODY A SALARY INCREASE.
AND IT'S A TOTAL WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
WE WEREN'T GOING TO AUTHORIZE OTHER PEOPLE TO DO IT WITHOUT CHECKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S NECESSARY.
PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC.
HEY, I WANNA SPEND ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY AS LONG AS WE GET ALL THE SNOW AWAY, BUT FRANKLY, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.
IF WE HAVE TO DO IT, WE'LL DO IT.
BUT WE CAN'T JUST DO IT ON A WHIM.
WE NEED THE COMMISSIONER TO SAY OUR PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE IT.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD HIM SAY THAT YET.
AND JUST FULL TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON TOWN PROPERTY OR RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL.
RIGHT? YOU PUT OUT AN EMAIL STATING THAT FOR THE ENTIRE TENURE OF YOUR SUPERVISOR, YOU'VE BEEN AUTHORIZING PLOWING PRIVATE, PRIVATE, UH, PROPERTY.
THAT'S, THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
WELL, YOU VOTED I DIDN'T VOTE TO, TO PLOW PRIVATE DRIVERS.
WELL, YOU, YOU BASE EVERY DECISION THAT WE MAKE, UH, YOU WERE PART OF.
KIMBERLY, WERE YOU, ARE YOU CONTINUING YOUR PRESENTATION? CAN WE MOVE ON PLEASE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? NO.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT BOARD HAS ANY MORE
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QUESTIONS FOR ME, BUT I'M DONE.I ONLY HAD THAT ONE, UM, CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN THAT I HAD ANSWERED.
I KNOW THAT THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE WORKING ON YOUR CORRECTIVE ACTION PLANS, BUT THAT'S GOING BUT THAT'S GOING FORWARD, RIGHT? YES.
UH, I PUT OUT A NUMBER OF A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WERE OUT.
IS THAT AN ACCURATE NUMBER? YES, THAT'S AN ACCURATE NUMBER.
AND PART OF THAT IS THE MONEY FOR THE COURTHOUSE THAT WAS ALLOWED, UH, WITH THAT WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION TALK ABOUT AUTHORIZATION, UH, WAS, WAS NOT ACTUALLY RESTRICTED FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND INSTEAD WAS PUT INTO FUND BALANCE, WHICH WAS THEN USED ACCORDING TO THE REPORT ON PAGE, UH, 10, UH, THE COURTHOUSE MIDGET ON BAYTOWN 10.
IT HAS THE BUDGET AND IT HAS ALL THE BREAKDOWN.
UH, SO APPARENTLY SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WAS USED FROM THE COURTHOUSE, THE $39.4 MILLION THAT THE SUPERVISOR DID NOT RESTRICT, UH, WAS USED TO PLUG, ACCORDING TO THE AUDIT, OTHER BUDGET GAPS YEAR AFTER YEAR BY REAPPORTIONING THE FUNDS INTENDED FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
SO THAT IN THE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WERE OUT, UM, THAT INCLUDES THE MONEY THAT WAS INTENDED FOR THE COURTHOUSE THAT WAS NOT RESTRICTED FOR THE COURT.
UM, SOME VENDOR CHECKS THE COURTS.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT A PLUG IS? UH, YES.
SO A PLUG IS WHEN YOU FORCE SOMETHING TO BALANCE OUT.
SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY HAVE, YOU MAY NOT ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY HAVE THE MONEY, BUT YOU PUT THE ENTRY IN TO MAKE, UH, THE ACCOUNTS BALANCE.
SO, UH, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO RECONCILE SOMETHING AND IT SAY SOMETHING'S OFF BY $500,000 IN CASH, BUT YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE $500,000 CASH COMING INTO THE BANK, BUT YOU CAN PLUG IT AND THEN WRITE IT OFF TO ANOTHER AREA IN THE BALANCE SHEET.
THERE WAS A, THERE WAS, UH, SEVERAL PLUGS IN THE CASH FOR UNRECONCILED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CASH AND THE, AND THE TAX OFFICE.
FOR THOSE OF US WHO DO NOT HAVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE, LET ME TRY A DEFINITION OF A PLUG AND YOU TELL ME IF IT'S CORRECT.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 10 ISN'T A PLUG THAT YOU JUST ADD THE NUMBER FIVE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOTHING TO BACK IT UP.
THAT'S, THAT'S A SIMPLIFIED VERSION.
IT MAY BE SIMPLIFIED, BUT IS IT ACCURATE? IT'S NOT ACCURATE.
IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT THAT'S NOT IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.
IS MY EXPLANATION ACCURATE? NOT
OH, YOUR EXPLANATION IS ACCURATE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU INVENTED $5 SOMEWHERE.
AND REGARDING THE UNCOLLECTED TAXES, UM, I THINK IT'S, WHAT IS IT, UP TO 29 MILLION OR SO IN UNCOLLECTED TAXES, IT'S APPROXIMATELY $29 MILLION.
SO IS THAT INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE HAD TO PAY ANY TAXES BECAUSE THEY WROTE A BAD CHECK? UM, POSSIBLY.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD BE ON THERE.
CAN I JUST ASK, UH, DOES THE REPORT, LEMME, THE PORT REPORT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT IF YOU WROTE A BAD CHECK THAT IT WASN'T INDICATED AS IT WAS A BAD CHECK, YOU WOULD, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO SAY ON THE BOOKS AS YOU PAID YOUR TAXES.
IF YOU THEN AT THE END OF THE END OF THE YEAR CAME IN AND DECIDED, YOU KNOW, I BETTER DO THE RIGHT THING AND PAY MY TAXES, UH, THAT PERSON DID NOT HAVE TO PAY INTEREST IN PENALTIES.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT GOING FORWARD, UH, MY TEAM HAS CORRECTED THAT.
BUT IF YOU DIDN'T PAY AT THE END OF THE YEAR BECAUSE IT WAS STILL LISTED AS YOU PAID YOUR TAXES, THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY THEIR TAXES, DID THEY? ACCORDING TO THE REPORT.
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AND IN 2013, THE TOWN DID AN AUCTION AND WE HAD AMNESTY ON THE INTEREST BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN SO LONG BEFORE, SINCE WE DID A FORECLOSURE SALE, THAT ONCE YOU HAVE INTEREST IN PENALTIES THAT ARE 5, 10, 15 YEARS, THE INTEREST IN PENALTIES GETS YOU TO THE POINT WHERE YOU PROBABLY CAN'T DIG YOURSELF OUT AND PAY THE TAXES AND THE INTEREST IN THE PENALTIES AND YOU'RE GONNA LOSE YOUR HOUSE.SO IN 2013, WE OFFERED AMNESTY AND SAID, WE'RE NEVER GONNA DO IT AGAIN, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS ONE TIME AND ONE TIME ONLY.
AND WE COLLECTED A GOOD AMOUNT OF THE TAXES THAT WERE OUTSTANDING.
I THINK IT WAS $32 MILLION AT THE TIME.
AND THE NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS 2014, WE, THE, THE SUPERVISOR, UH, URGED US TO RETAIN SOMEBODY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.
THAT WE NEVER GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH IN OUTSTANDING TAXES AND IT GOES ON FOR YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
IT REALLY IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR HOMES.
WE HAVE $29 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING PROPERTY TAXES, ALMOST THE SAME AS IT WAS IN 2013.
AND NOT ONLY DIDN'T WE COLLECT THE PROPERTY TAXES AND WE'RE BACK INTO THIS AWFUL SITUATION, PARTICULARLY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOSING THEIR HOMES, BUT WE PAID THAT PERSON $497,000 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NEVER IN THIS SITUATION AGAIN.
BUT YOU SAID YOU PAID HIM OVER OR PAID HIM WHAT TIME? THIS IS FROM 2014 UNTIL, UNTIL HE'S NO LONGER EMPLOYED WITH US.
WHEN OUR NEW TOWN ATTORNEY CAME IN.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS VERITY OF WHAT'S IN THIS REPORT, AND WHILE YOU HEAR US TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY FOR THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD THE MONEY FOR, LIKE LAST YEAR ON TAX TO ROAD, I WAS ALL FOR LET'S JUST HAVE THE TOWN TAKE, TAKE CARE OF THE SIDEWALK WITH THIS REPORT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
I THINK THIS IS SERIOUS ENOUGH.
WHAT'S IN THIS REPORT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, URGE THAT THIS BOARD ACTUALLY CONTACT THE STATE CONTROLLER AND HAVE THE STATE CONTROLLER LOOK INTO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN AS IDENTIFIED BY THE INDEPENDENT FORENSIC, UH, AUDITORS.
UM, I HAD SENT A, UH, AN EMAIL TO, UH, THE BOARD, UH, LAST WEEK.
AND, AND I BASICALLY SUGGESTED THAT WE INVITE OUR, UM, ATTORNEY, THE ATTORNEY THAT'S DEALING WITH THE FORECLOSURES, UM, TO GIVE US ANOTHER BRIEFING.
THEY GAVE US A BRIEFING, UM, UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OR A MONTH AGO OR SO.
AND I JUST WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE, WHERE WE ARE.
UH, NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
THE QUESTION IS NO, AND IT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE ATTORNEY THAN THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS PREVIOUS REFERENC PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED HERE TODAY, THE CURRENT ATTORNEY WHO'S WORKING ON FORECLOSURE MATTERS HAS BEEN DOING OUR TEXT.
CARY MATTERS SINCE I STOPPED DOING THEM AND IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.
UM, ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND I'M CONFIDENT, UM, THAT HE WILL PROCEED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BUT, BUT YOU INDICATED THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS.
IT SAYS VERY LITTLE HAS CHANGED.
RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ARTICLE 11 IN REM PROCEEDINGS ARE VERY TECHNICAL AND YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM BY STEP BY STEP BASIS.
IF YOU MESS ONE ASPECT UP, YOU HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH, WHICH WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
WE DON'T WANT TO COST THE TOWN MORE MONEY, MORE TIME.
UM, WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING THREE AUCTIONS THIS YEAR.
WHEN WILL THE FIRST AUCTION BE? LIKELY? LATE SPRING.
UM, AND THE OTHER TWO WILL LIKELY BE IN THE FALL.
SO WHEN WOULD WE, BUT THAT'S PURSUANT TO THE TOWN BOARD AGREEING TO THAT AND SIGNING OFF ON THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING BECAUSE THE C THE ISSUE I HAVE IS WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON GOING FORWARD.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, WE ALL MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE TAKING THIS WHOLE FORECLOSURE PROCESS SERIOUSLY.
WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO HAVE EVERYTHING CLEARED UP WITHIN, YOU SAID SHOULD BE ABOUT THREE YEARS TO CLEAR UP EVERYTHING.
I THINK BEST CASE SCENARIO, YES, PROBABLY MORE LIKELY
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IN THE FOUR YEAR RANGE.SO, BUT THAT, THAT'S EVERYTHING GOING CORRECTLY.
SO I SAY THAT WITH ASTERISK, UH, WE'LL DO OUR BEST, RIGHT.
BUT IF WE, IF WE MEET ON A, YOU KNOW, IF WE MEET WITH OUR, WITH THE LAWYERS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HIRED, UM, WE COULD, WE HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT CLEARING UP EVERYTHING WITHIN THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO GOING FORWARD IS TO HAVE A MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR ATTORNEY WHERE THEY COULD GIVE US A BRIEFING ON WHAT THEY'VE, WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
UH, WE COULD HIGHLIGHT THE URGENCY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING IS GONNA HAPPEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA GET DISTRACTED.
I, I, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, SAID NOTHING'S BEEN DONE.
I SAID NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS.
AND THAT THEY'RE HIGHLY TECHNICAL MATTERS.
I DON'T THINK HE'S UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU MEAN.
RIGHT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS.
THERE'S NO, WE, WE, WE ARE IN THE, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND I, I KNOW THEY KNOW THE URGENCY AND THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO FINALIZING THIS IN THE PROPER AMOUNT OF TIME.
COULD WE, COULD WE GET, COULD YOU PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUPLE WEEKS WITH, UH, WITH SOME SORT OF PROGRESS REPORT AS TO WHAT ACTION STEPS THEY TOOK SINCE THE LAST MEETING? BECAUSE IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SAY WHICH LAST MEETING, WHICH LAST MEETING YOU'RE REFERRING TO SINCE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A MEETING TODAY AND WE'RE BASICALLY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW NEXT WEEK, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DID BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK.
WELL, WEEKS FROM OUR THAT'S FINE.
IF YOU'D LIKE THAT TO BE DONE, THAT'S, I WOULD EXPECT THE BILLINGS TO PROBABLY GO UP.
I WOULD GUESS 20 TO 25% IF THEY HAVE TO DO IT ON A WEEKLY BASIS BASIS.
SO I THINK WHAT, WHAT WHAT JOE IS ADVISING IS, IS THAT WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING TO REPORT THAT IS OF SIGNIFICANCE OF IN TERMS OF PROGRESS AND THAT WILL BE REPORTED, BUT THAT'S ASK FOR.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S OTHER ASPECTS OF FORECLOSURE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING BACK YOU A NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE CURRENT.
SO THE THING IS THERE'S WITH A FORECLOSURE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STARTING WITH THE OLDEST ONES, I GUESS FIRST.
AND THEN WE WERE STARTING WITH THE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT YOU HAD HIRED WE'RE STARTING FROM THE POINT WHERE HE LEFT OFF THAT HE DIDN'T COMPLETE.
WELL, IT WASN'T EVERYBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD HIRED, YOU KNOW, SO THE THING, IT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION, NO, THIS JUST LEMME IT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION PAUL, AND YOU INSISTED I DID NOT TOWN ATTORNEY RETAIN HIM AND IT WAS ONLY ATTORNEY.
FIRST OF ALL, ANYBODY WHO WATCHES THESE MEETINGS KNOWS THAT THE BOARD BASICALLY HAS OVERRULED ME ON MANY THINGS.
SO THE THING IS THE BOARD BASICALLY, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU DIDN'T RECOMMEND THIS PERSON? WHAT, LET ME SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO ARGUMENTS WITH YOU OR, OR WHATEVER BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU WANT IT.
WHO'S YOUR FRIEND, WASN'T IT? OKAY.
NO, YOU KNOW WHAT? I AM NOT GONNA RESPOND AND I'M NOT GETTING INTO FIGHTS AND I'M NOT GETTING INTO ARGUMENTS.
ALL I'M SAYING IS GOING FORWARD, ALL I WANNA DO IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COLLECT, UH, THE MONEY THAT IS OWED TO THE TOWN.
AND I WANT ASK, YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO WEEKS OR EVERY THREE WEEKS IS, UH, NOT REASONABLE, BUT AT LEAST EVERY MONTH A REPORT.
AND I'D LIKE TO MEET WITH THAT LAWYER, FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
ARE WE BEING AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE? IT'S THE PROCESS THAT YOU USED WITH THE LAST ATTORNEY.
WE LEARN, WE LEARN FROM OUR EXPERIENCES.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS I DON'T WANNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THIS FORENSIC REPORT, WHICH I THINK IS POSITIVE BECAUSE BASICALLY IT'S A ROADMAP FOR THE FUTURE.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NO, BUT IT'S A HISTORY OF THE PAST.
SO, SO YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT GONNA AR WE'RE NOT ARGUING ON SAYING, WELL YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THIS, YOU'RE THE LIAISON TO THE, UH, CONTROLLER.
YOU'RE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, PAUL, WELL YOU'RE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THIS HAPPENED UNDER YOUR WATCH, A PREMIER WATCH AS THE PERSON WHO YOU LIAISON, THE PERSON, THE PERSON WHO YOU BROUGHT IN, A FRIEND OF YOURS WHO YOU INSISTED BE HIRED, OTHERWISE YOU'D HAVE A TEMPERATURE TANTRUM THAT YOU INSISTED BE HIRED AND THAT HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THIS.
I REMEMBER VERY DISTINCTLY, 'CAUSE IT WAS VERY PAINFUL IN 2013 TO DO FORECLOSURES AND HAVE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOMES.
AND WE PROMISED THAT THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND YOU PROMISED THAT YOUR FRIEND WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND WHAT HAPPENED $497,000 LATER AND A NEW TOWN ATTORNEY WHO WOULDN'T PUT UP WITH IT AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WELL I'M, FIRST OF ALL, EVERY, UH, APPOINTEE, UH, IS BASICALLY AN APPOINTEE OF THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, SO THE THING IS, I HAVE NO UNILATERAL POWER TO HIRE ANYBODY OR INSIST ON ANYBODY'S EMPLOYMENT AS EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS, BECAUSE THIS BOARD HAS, UH, DISAGREED WITH RECOMMENDATIONS I'VE MADE IN THE PAST.
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SO THE BOARD BASICALLY CAN'T POINT FINGERS BECAUSE EVERY DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY ME WAS MADE BY YOU.AND YOU ARE THE LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
SO YOU ARE AS RESPONSIBLE AND EVERYBODY WHO IS ON THE BOARD IS AS RESPONSIBLE AS I AM FOR ANY ACTION THAT TOOK PLACE OR DID NOT TAKE PLACE.
BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS WHAT I WANT TO DO IS LOOK AT WAYS WE COULD GO FORWARD, USE THE FORENSIC AUDIT AS A, A GUIDE, UM, UH, COME UP WITH A PLAN OF ACTION TO ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT THEY'VE RAISED.
UH, THE CONTROLLER, UH, CAME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
I APPRECIATE KIMBERLY, UH, YOUR, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THIS.
AND I FEEL THAT YOU GAVE US A GOOD ROADMAP AND I THOUGHT YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THIS.
THERE'S OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, RESPONDED.
WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE COURT, UM, WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM, UH, THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
UH, THERE, THERE'S OTHER ISSUES IN THE FORENSIC REPORT THAT HAVE TO BE, UM, ADDRESSED.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WHEN KIMBERLY, DO YOU THINK, KIMBERLY, DO YOU THINK WE WOULD, UH, BE IN A POSITION OF GETTING RESPONSES FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS? BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY AND I THINK THAT, I MEAN IT WAS IN JANUARY WHEN WE GOT THE REPORT AND I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING, OR JOE, MAYBE YOU WOULD, UH, GIVE US ANY THOUGHTS? NOT ALL.
THEY'RE NOT PARTS OF MY STAFF, SO I CAN'T SAY.
I MET WITH THE TAX DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE, UM, THEY HAVE THEIR REPORT DONE THAT SHOULD BE ISSUED WATER'S DONE.
UM, THE COURTS, I FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM LAST WEEK.
I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THINGS.
UM, AND THERE WERE A FEW OTHER ITEMS FOR, UH, DPWI THINK WITH THE CAPITAL AND I HAVE TO MEET WITH THEM TO GO THROUGH THOSE.
SO FOR LIKE NEXT WEEK, IF WE WANT TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THE FORENSIC REPORT DEALING WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR DEPARTMENT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, A DEPART? WHAT DEPARTMENT COULD WE CALL IN TO DO THEIR REPORT? UM, I THINK YOU COULD BRING IN, I THINK YOU COULD BRING IN WATER AND TAX.
SO COULD, COULD I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, UH, TELL HOLLY TO, UH, PUT WATER AND TAX ON THE AGENDA FOR WHAT, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE ON FOR NEXT? WELL THIS IS IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, WE MADE NO UNDERSTOOD.
NOT EVERYONE KNOW NEXT TUESDAY.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN IT HITS.
SO 10 TO IF IT WILL HIT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO PAUL, WHO CALLED FOR THE FORENSIC AUDIT? WAS IT YOU? I TOLD YOU I'M NOT GETTING INTO FIGHTS WITH YOU.
AND I'M NOT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT, LET SAY ALL I'M SAYING IS A QUESTION.
LEMME SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT ON THE CONTROL.
I'M THE LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER, NOT, I CALLED FOR THE FORENSIC AUDIT.
YOU STALLED IT, YOU HELD IT OVER AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY COULD.
AND THEN YOU VOTED AGAINST HAVING THE FORENSIC AUDIT.
NOW YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, THIS IS A GREAT ROADBLOCK.
A ROAD, UH, UH, MAP, MAP ROADMAP FOR THE FUTURE.
RIGHT? WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THIS IF IT WASN'T FROM ME, INITIATE IT.
AND THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SAYING, YES, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
MATTER OF FACT, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN SIGN THE DOCUMENT.
SO THE RESOLUTION FIRST TIME EVER DIDN'T SAY, WE AUTHORIZED THE TIMES TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE CONTRACT FOR THE FORENSIC AUDIT.
'CAUSE YOU COULD HAVE SAID, OH, YOU JUST AUTHORIZED IT.
SO WHAT WE TOOK WAS A STEP KNOWING YOU WOULDN'T SIGN IT TO AUTHORIZE ONE OF US, WHICH WAS ME, TO SIGN THE CONTRACT TO DO THE FORENSIC AUDIT.
'CAUSE YOU WANTED NO PART OF KNOWING OR EXPOSING WHAT WAS GOING ON FOR ALL THESE YEARS, PARTICULARLY WITH THAT COURTHOUSE WITH $39 MILLION, 32 OF WHICH YOU LET SLIP INTO FUND BALANCE.
SO WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING REALLY GREAT AND WE'RE PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS AND WE'RE BUYING NEW CARS.
AND THEN IT TURNS OUT THAT WE HAVE NO COURTHOUSE MONEY.
AND NOW WHILE WE'RE PLANNING, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOOD, WHO GIVES US AN IDEA TO DO A COURTHOUSE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE $39.4 MILLION.
7.4 IS NOT GONNA BUY US A COURTHOUSE.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POINTING FINGERS AT ME AND YOU DID THIS AND YOU DID THAT, I WANTED THIS, I SPOKE TO THE CONTROLLER AND SHE WAS CONCERNED.
'CAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT HER NAME ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THIS TOWN WHERE SHE LOOKED AT THE BOOKS.
'CAUSE SHE HAS A REPUTATION THAT MEANS MORE TO HER THAN THE JOB.
AND I SAID TO HER, WHY DON'T I CALL FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT? AND WE'LL SEPARATE OUT
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WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AND I'M SURE THERE'S EVEN MORE THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT, BUT WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT.AND LET ME JUST SAY, I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED A FORENSIC AUDIT, BUT I WANTED THE FORENSIC AUDIT TO INCLUDE TO NOT STOP AT 2023.
AND I MENTIONED THAT MANY, MANY TIMES THAT I FELT THAT I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD DO GOING FORWARD, NOT GOING BACK, NOT ONLY GOING BACKWARDS.
AND THE BOARD, UM, DECIDED TO REJECT A FORENSIC, UH, AUDIT THAT WOULD CONTINUE TILL THE END OF 2025.
BUT AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FORENSIC AUDIT AS A ROADMAP.
THEY CAME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
KIMBERLY, UM, AND JOE, UM, ARE, HAVE ALREADY COME UP WITH A PLAN OF ACTION GOING FORWARD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY GOVERNMENT, IF THEY DID A FORENSIC AUDIT, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA FIND, UM, ISSUES WITH EVERYBODY, WITH ANY GOVERNMENT, WITH ANY BUSINESS.
UM, BUT WHAT WHAT I'M PROUD OF IS THAT, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO, UH, TIGHTEN UP AND TO IMPROVE AND TO LEARN FROM RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WHEN MY FATHER WAS ALIVE, HE CAME IN EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, THREE TIMES A WEEK AND VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME AND LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE VOUCHERS AND PURCHASE ORDERS AND LOOKED FOR WAYS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SAVE MONEY.
WE HIRED, UM, UH, DIFFERENT FIRMS OVER THE YEARS TO REVIEW OPERATIONS OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WELCOME AND, AND WON.
YOU KNOW, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE TOWN BOARD WILL, UM, WILL, UM, INCREASE THE FORENSIC AUDIT, EXPAND THE FORENSIC ORDER TO INCLUDE, UM, 2024 AND 2025.
SO WE COULD SEE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE, UM, SINCE 2023, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IN SINCE 2023, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, IS FOLLOWING ALL THE, ALL THE PROCESSES THAT, THAT WE SHOULD.
SO, AND AGAIN, I DON'T LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A 2024 FORENSIC, WHAT IT HAS BEING, I GOT YOU.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS IS HORRIBLE.
UH, IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO EMBARRASS ANYBODY.
IT'S DESIGNED TO HELP US COME UP WITH, UH, BEST PRACTICE, YOU KNOW, BEST PRACTICES GOING FORWARD.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I ALSO FEEL, UH, AND THIS IS THE LAST THING I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT I'D LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THIS AUDIT TO SAY WE DID THIS, WE IMPLEMENTED THIS, WE IMPLEMENTED THIS BECAUSE THE FORENSIC AUDIT, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE IS CORRECTABLE.
UM, AND IT'S OUR JOB AS TOWN BOARD MEMBERS NOW THAT WE'RE ON NOTICE TO CORRECT ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY MADE.
SO, ANYTHING ELSE? I I ONLY, I CAME IN MID 24.
SO IF YOU'RE IMPLYING THAT YOU WANNA LOOK AT MY WORK, THAT WOULD BE 2025.
THIS IS ABOUT, UH, HAVING THE MOST UP TO, YOU KNOW, UPTODATE ANALYSIS OF, UM, ALL ASPECTS OF, YOU KNOW, TOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, TOWN OPERATIONS.
AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS, PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF US YELLING AND SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER, MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS TOWN GOVERNMENT.
THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN AT, AT THESE MEETINGS.
UM, SO ALL I'M ASKING, UM, EVERYBODY TO DO IS BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS.
AND GOING FORWARD, ALL I'M ASKING ALL OF US TO DO IS LET'S FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND LET'S NOT TRY, UM, PULLING EVERYBODY DOWN AND GET, AND, AND CREATING CONTROVERSIES WHEN, WHEN ALL OF US SHOULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND THAT IS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN IS RUNNING THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD AGREE ON THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU.
I JUST, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU FOR THAT ENTIRE SPEECH.
YOU TRIED TO DELAY THIS FORENSIC AUDIT AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY COULD USING WHATEVER PROCEDURAL METHODS YOU COULD UNTIL THEY RAN OUT.
AND THEN YOU SAID, I WANT TO HAVE 2024 INCLUDED IN THE AUDIT.
THIS IS 20, 21, 22 AND 23, 20 24.
YOU WANTED TO TRY AND STALL THIS AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY COULD.
AND BY INCLUDING 2024 IN THERE, WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THAT ANNUAL
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AUDIT.THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ANNUAL AUDIT AND A FORENSIC AUDIT.
THE ANNUAL AUDIT'S DONE EVERY YEAR.
THAT ANNUAL AUDIT WAS NOT FINALIZED UNTIL SOMETIME MID-DECEMBER.
SO YOU WANTED TO STRETCH THIS OUT.
OUR CONTROLLER WAS SO CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT SHE WAS FINDING, WE COULDN'T WAIT SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE A DELAY IN HAVING ALL THIS EXPOSED.
AND SO YOU KEEP REPEATING, I ONLY WANTED IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I ONLY DID VOTED AGAINST IT.
I MADE THIS SPEECH IN SEPTEMBER.
I MADE THIS SPEECH IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND YOU KEPT SAYING, I WANNA WAIT FOR 2024.
WE NEEDED TO KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE SOONER WE START TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES THAT ARE IN HERE, AND LET'S BE CLEAR, WE'RE NEVER GETTING BACK ALL OF THAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY PENALTIES AND INTEREST ON THEIR WATER BILLS, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND ASK PERHAPS NEW HOMEOWNERS TO PAY PENALTIES AND INTEREST FOR THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNER.
WHATEVER WAS GOING ON WITH THE TICKETS AND THE COLLECTIONS, THAT MONEY'S LOST THE OUTSTANDING TAXES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT ALL BACK.
WE'RE GONNA BE ASKED TO WRITE A LOT OF THIS OFF.
AND SO WHEN YOU, YOU KEEP SAYING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND PAUL, I'M NOT MAKING A PERSONAL ATTACK AGAINST YOU.
IF ANYTHING, I'M MAKING A PROFESSIONAL ATTACK IN THAT AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR JOB.
THAT'S NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK, THAT'S AN ATTACK BASED ON YOU ACTUALLY BEING THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, NOT THE CONTROLLER.
THE CONTROLLER HAS TO DO WHAT YOU SAY WHEN YOU TOLD THE CONTROLLER, I WANT YOU TO GET THE TAX RATE UNDER 3%, THEN YOU STAY AT YOUR DESK UNTIL YOU DO IT.
WHEN SHE WAS SAYING THAT WE REALLY NEEDED A 17% INCREASE TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT WAS HAPPENING THAT SHE WAS FINDING, YOU TOLD HER IN FRONT OF HER STAFF, YELLING, ABUSIVE HER WORDS, OTHER PEOPLE WERE THERE, SAID THE SAME THING.
YOU SAID, GO BACK AND SIT THERE UNTIL YOU GET IT BELOW 3%.
WHAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO TAKE FROM FUND BALANCE.
AND THAT IS HOW WE GOT INTO THIS SITUATION WHERE YOU WERE RELYING ON FUND BALANCE, JUST USING FUND BALANCE.
AND WHAT DID THE CONTROLLER SAY? WE DON'T HAVE IT.
SO IN YOUR BUDGET MESSAGE YOU SAID, OH, IT'S UNDER 3%.
BUT THEN WHEN THE KIMBERLY SAID TO US, THE CONTROLLER SAID TO US, WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE, IT'S JUST GONNA MEAN HIGHER AND HIGHER INTEREST, UH, TAX RATES IN THE FUTURE.
AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING AND DO IT QUICKLY, HER PREDICTION IS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY SEE A 50% INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
NOW OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TO GET THAT DOWN, BUT THAT'S SHOCKING.
AND WHAT WE, WHAT WAS YOUR ADDRESS TO THAT? USE SOME MORE FUND BALANCE.
AND THEN WE STOPPED IT AND SAID, OKAY, IT'S A 10%, BUT IT'S ONLY IN THE A BUDGET.
WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT IN THE B BUDGET BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS IN THE B BUDGET THAT HAVE TO BE FIXED.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE AN INCREASE NEXT YEAR IN THE B BUDGET.
AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF FISCAL MISMANAGEMENT.
AND YES, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AND WORK FORWARD, BUT WE CAN'T BE BLIND TO HOW WE GOT HERE AND IN THE PAST.
AND SO YOU'RE GONNA KEEP SAYING PERSONAL ATTACKS, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BE THE NICEST GUY IN THE WORLD, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT DOING THE JOB THAT YOU'RE HIRED TO DO AND THEN YOU'RE BLAMING OTHERS FOR IT AND YOU'RE BEING ABUSIVE TO OUR STAFF OVER IT, THEN I HAVE TO SPEAK UP AND THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING.
AND I, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD AS, AS LIAISONS TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN LIAISON TO, UM, UH, THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE FOR MANY YEARS.
AND I JUST LIKE YOU FEEL I'M NOT DOING IN YOUR OPINION, WHICH I DISAGREE WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UH, YOU SAYING THAT YOU, YOU ARE NOT, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT IMPRESSED WITH, UH, HOW I'M HANDLING IT.
I'M NOT IMPRESSED WITH, UH, THE JOB THAT YOU'VE DONE AS LIAISON, UH, TO
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THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, UH, SINCE I'VE, YOU VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE BUDGET, UH, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN TOWN SUPERVISOR, YOU'VE BEEN TOWN SUPERVISOR FOR MANY.I'M NOT TOWN SUPERVISOR, NO INTENTION BEING TOWN SUPERVISOR.
YOU, YOU HAVE VOTED FOR EVERY BUDGET SINCE YOU'VE BEEN, UH, UM, LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
UH, YOU, UM, ARE VERY DETAILED.
YOU HAVE, UM, SECRET MEETINGS WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS.
UH, YOU, YOU AND GINA EVERY FRIDAY FOR TWO TO THREE HOURS.
I, BUT YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA GET BLANKS.
NO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? AND, AND ALL I'M SAYING IS YOU ARE TRYING TO POINT FINGERS WHEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE EQUALLY AS RESPONSIBLE.
SO IF YOU THINK THAT I'M NOT DOING MY JOB, WHO PRIVATE EMPLOYEE, FRANCIS, YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB ALSO.
UM, AND IF YOU AND ANYBODY WHO'S ON THE BOARD WHO VOTED FOR THE BUDGET HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IT'S VERY EASY, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO ALWAYS POINT FINGERS.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE TO DO.
AND YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE AFRAID, YOU'RE, I'M, I, I, WHEN I, UH, MAKE A DECISION, I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVERY DECISION I MAKE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT ALL THE DECISIONS I'VE MADE AND YOU KNOW WHAT I LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW, I LISTEN, I REFLECT, AND THEN I TRY TO IMPROVE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT ALL YOU'RE DOING IS POINTING FINGERS WHEN YOU ARE EQUALLY AS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY DECISION THAT IS MADE BY THE TOWN BOARD.
SO CUT OUT THE FACT, CUT OUT THE, THE HABIT THAT YOU MAKE OF ALWAYS BLAMING OTHERS WHEN YOU ARE EQUALLY AT FAULT.
AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
I MEAN, A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, FOR THOSE OF WHO JOY IS NEW, BUT WE ALL VOTED FOR THE BUDGET.
YOU VOTED FOR EVERY, EVERY ANYBODY WHO WANTS A COPY OF THE BUDGET.
BECAUSE IN THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE NOW KNOW IS GOING ON, THE TOWN COUNCIL PUT A BUDGET MESSAGE IN.
SUPERVISOR HAS A BUDGET MESSAGE IN THERE.
EVERYTHING IS GREAT, DON'T WORRY.
AND YOU KNOW HOW WE RESPONDED TO IT, PAUL, I SCANNED EACH ONE OF YOUR BUDGET MESSAGES AND I SCANNED THE ACTUAL BUDGET.
NOW, IF I HAND THIS TO YOU, YOU'RE GONNA REFUSE TO READ IT AS TO WHAT WE VOTED FOR.
WE VOTED TO RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE, $7 MILLION.
AND WHAT DID YOU DO AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER? YOU DIDN'T RESTRICT THAT MONEY FOR THE COURTHOUSE, DID YOU? AND YOU DIDN'T VOTE.
AND SO WHERE DID IT GO FOR EVERYTHING? NO, NO, NO.
YOU JUST ON YOUR OWN DECIDED TO LET IT SLIP INTO FUND BALANCE, NEVER RESERVED IT FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
2020 COMES ALONG AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS IT, IT'S UP ON THE WEB, OUR WEB WEBSITE.
OKAY, SHOULD WE MOVE THEN? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
AND THEN IN 2020, AND BY THE WAY, IN YOUR BUDGET MESSAGE, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE REALLY TELLING THE PEOPLE WHAT YOU WERE DOING IS IN YOUR BUDGET MESSAGE COURTHOUSE, ALL CAPS, COURTHOUSE POLICE HEADQUARTERS, WE WILL SET ASIDE 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO REDUCE BORROWING COSTS AND ENABLE THE TOWN TO IMPLEMENT NEED AND IMPROVEMENTS AND TO STAY UNDER THE NEW YORK STATE TAX CAP.
I DIDN'T EVEN WANNA JUST TYPE IT OUT.
SO MAYBE I MISSED, YOU KNOW, CHANGED THE WORD HERE AND THERE AND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IN HERE AS YOU AND YOUR BUDGET THAT WE VOTED FOR, WE WERE GONNA SAVE MU MONEY UP FOR A COURTHOUSE SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO BOND.
AND WE'D BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT COURTHOUSE AFTER A FEW YEARS WITHOUT GOING, UH, TO A BOND.
AND WE DESPERATELY NEED A COURTHOUSE.
UH, NEXT, NEXT ONE CAME ALONG.
SO NOW YOU HAVE 7 MILLION THAT WERE SAVING FOR A COURTHOUSE.
YOU DIDN'T RESTRICT IT AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
YOU THEN WENT TO AND DID THE SAME THING, MISLEADING THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD.
IT SAYS RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, AND YOU PUT IN YOUR BUDGET MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE SAVING IT FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
BUT DID YOU, NO, YOU LET IT SLIP INTO FUND VS.
BY DOING NOTHING, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RESTRICT IT.
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THEN 12 AND A HALF MILLION.NOW, ONCE YOU KNEW YOU WERE LETTING IT SLIP INTO FUND BALLOTS, WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP IT? BUT YOU DIDN'T.
SO YOU DID ANOTHER 12 POINT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE HAD 90, 39 $0.4 MILLION RESERVED FOR COURTHOUSE.
SO EVERY TIME YOU SAY YOU VOTED FOR THE BUDGET.
YES, PAUL, I VOTED FOR THE BUDGET.
WE ALL DID WITH A LINE IN THE BUDGET THAT SAID, RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE.
AND WHAT DID YOU DO? YOU NEVER RESTRICTED IT.
AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE AN ISSUE NOW.
YOU'LL SAY, OH, YOU ARE THE LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
RIGHT? I NOW REALIZE WHAT YOU WERE DOING TO THE PRIOR CONTROLLER TELLING HER TO SIT AT THE DESK UNTIL SHE USES FUND BALANCE TO BRING DOWN THE PROPERTY TAXES SO THAT WE CAN PUT IN MORE SIDEWALKS SO WE CAN BUY NEW FLEETS OF CARS.
SO ALL THE TOWN EMPLOYEES HAVE NEW CARS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT A CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER DOES.
SO WHAT YOU COULD POINT FINGERS AT AT ME ALL YOU WANT, PAUL, BUT I VOTED FOR WHAT WAS WE WANTED TO HAVE DONE AND YOU ON YOUR OWN INITIATIVE, WITHOUT ANY APPROVALS, WITHOUT ANY VOTES, WITHOUT ANY RESOLUTIONS, DECIDED TO USE THE MONEY ANY WAY YOU WANTED.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE STATE CONTROLLER NEEDS TO, TO STEP IN HERE AND REALLY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
OKAY, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD JUST, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA.
WELL, LEMME JUST SAY ONE THING AND, AND AS A RESPONSE, I DISAGREE, I DISAGREE WITH, UM, THESE PERSONAL ATTACKS.
THAT'S, AND I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK.
I DISAGREE WITH DON READ THE WHAT FRANCIS SAID.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO JUST READ IN AN EMAIL, LET DON'T READ THE EMAIL.
AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION, UH, THAT, UM, EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD IS EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY ASPECT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OF THE TOWN BUDGET.
AND I, AGAIN, UH, MAKE THE REQUEST THAT, UM, UH, WE AT THE MINIMUM, UM, HAVE TWO MEMBER, TWO LIAISONS, UH, TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE FROM THE, FROM THE TOWN BOARD, UM, OR THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER LIAISON, UH, TO THE CONTROLLER, UH, FROM, UH, FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT FRANCIS, UM, HAS BEEN, UH, HAS KEPT US INFORMED OF, UM, OF THE WORK HE'S BEEN DOING AS LIAISON OVER THE YEARS.
UM, SO THE THING IS, YOU'RE TRYING TO BLAME ME WHEN EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT YOU'RE VERY DETAILED ORIENTED.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT YOU TRY, UH, BEING VERY CAREFUL IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL ASPECTS OF THE, OF THE TOWN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT YOU KNEW EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON IN THE, IN THE BUDGET, IN THE, WITH, WITH THE BUDGET.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT'S WRONG, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO, UH, FOCUS BLAME ONLY ON ME, AND THAT YOU'RE AFRAID TO TAKE EQUAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ACTIONS YOU'VE TAKEN.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.
AND YOU KNOW, ALL YOU REALLY WANT ME TO DO IS YELL AND SCREAM.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, UM, I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, I MADE MY POINT AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE ON.
I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE.
I'M NOT GONNA, I, I, I HEAR YOU.
YOU'RE THE ONE CASTING ASPERSIONS ON COUNCILMAN SHEHAN.
I'M NOT, I'M, I HEAR I QUESTIONS BEING ASKED AND CLARIFICATIONS BEING ASKED.
BUT TO SAY THAT HE'S EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE, HE'S, YOU ARE THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.
YOU'RE ELECTED TO BE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND SUPERVISOR OF THE TOWN.
AND I THINK ANOTHER, AND I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE BETWEEN A LIAISON AND SOMEONE WHO'S, WHO'S THE MAKING CLOSE TO $200,000 TO BE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND SUPERVISOR OF THE TOWN.
UM, NUMBER TWO, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT APPEARS ON THE BUDGET AND THE, THE PRIME EXAMPLE IS, YES, WE ALL VOTED FOR THE BUDGET.
AS, AS COUNCILMAN SHEEN SAID, WE VOTED FOR A BUDGET THAT REPRESENTED CERTAIN THINGS, WHICH WE BELIEVE TO BE TRUE, AS PUT TOGETHER AND RECOMMENDED BY THE SUPERVISOR AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND SUBMITTED TO US FOR A VOTE SUCH AS THE CUMULATIVE AMOUNT OF
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MONIES PUT ASIDE FOR THE COURTHOUSE, WHICH WE BELIEVE WE WERE VOTING FOR.AND YET SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED.
SO I WANNA MAKE THAT DISTINCTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THERE WAS REFERENCE TO PLUGS WHERE ELSE THERE WERE PLUGS MADE TO COVER OTHER DISCREPANCIES.
SO THESE ARE ISSUES AND, AND YES, GOING FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY MUST CORRECT THEM.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CONTROLLER HAS ALREADY MADE HEADWAY TO IN, IN DOING THAT.
WE ALL THANK YOU FOR NUMBER ONE, IDENTIFYING WHERE THERE WERE PROBLEMS, LOOKING BACK AND MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS AND CORRECTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT WE CAN RIGHT THE SHIP.
I THINK TO ADDRESS THIS, HE SAID, HE SAID THING, I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE REFER TO THE, UH, FORENSIC AUDIT OF FORENSIC REPORT, UH, TO THE STATE CONTROLLER SECOND.
WELL, IT CAN'T BE, UH, IT CAN'T BE DONE UNLESS IT'S DONE AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING.
UH, THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD.
DID YOU WANNA DO WORK SESSION WORK SESSIONS OR NOT WORK SESSION OFFICIAL MEETINGS? I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT.
I BELIEVE YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY REQUIREMENT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE AUTHORIZING I WOULD ASSUME THE CONTROLLER TO SEND IT.
UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T, WE COULD SEND, WE COULDN'T SEND IT AS A, AS AN ADDITIONAL YOU COULD SEND IT, YOU COULD SEND IT ON YOUR OWN.
SO DO WE NEED TO HAVE A, WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE TO, COULD WE ASK THE CONTROLLERS OFFICE SECOND OFFICIAL? YOU SHOULD HAVE A VOTE.
COULD WE ASK THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE TO, UH, EXPAND, EXPAND, UH, THEIR REVIEW AND, UH, INTO, UH, 2024 AND 2025? NO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE'RE GONNA BE, IF YOU'RE REALLY, IS THERE EMOTIONAL, IF YOU REALLY CONCERN A MOTION DISCUSSION, I MAY, I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE AMEND, BUT WE CAN
ALRIGHT? SO THAT'S ANOTHER DELAY TACTIC BECAUSE THERE IS, IT'S NOT A DELAY TACTIC.
IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S BASICALLY YOU JUST CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA A COUPLE MINUTES AGO.
YOU'RE THE STATE, YOU'RE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU JUST A QUESTION.
HAS THE 2025 AUDIT BEEN COMPLETED? I AM BASICALLY ASKING THAT A YES OR NO QUESTION.
I'M ASKING THAT THE, THE STATE CONTROLLER OFFICE JUST ANSWER ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I, FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT, BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE JOB.
I AM NOT GONNA, IT, IT WON'T BE COMPLETED UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA RESPOND TO, UH, TO, IT'S SO CLEAR, THE POLITICAL ATTACKS.
UH, SO ALL I'M ASKING, JOE, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO BASICALLY, UH, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE, UH, TO ASK THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE REVIEWING 2000 UP TO 2023 TO INCLUDE 2024 AND 2 25, WHATEVER BOOKS WE HAVE FOR 2024 AND 2025? BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THE CONCERN THAT I, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING YOU FOR AN AMENDMENT? NO, I'M, I'M MAKING A, IS THERE A SECOND? I'M, I'M MAKING AN AMENDMENT.
IS THERE, OKAY, YOU JUST, YOU JUST OFFERED AN AMENDMENT.
SO IS THERE A SECOND? YOUR MOTION FAILED? THERE'S STILL A MOTION ON THE, THE FLOOR TO ASK THE STATE CONTROLLER TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUES THAT ARE RAISED IN THE FORENSIC REPORT.
THERE'S A MOTION, THERE'S A SECOND.
YOU NEED ONE? OH, I NEED TO CALL A VOTE.
OKAY, JUST PAUL, HOW ARE YOU VOTING FOR THE RECORD? I'M ABSTAINING BECAUSE BASICALLY REASON, SO NO, NO, NO, NO.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA INTERRUPT ME.
NO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, I'M SAYING WAIT, I HAVE A BRING IT BACK.
THE REASON THAT I'M SUPPORTING THIS MOTION, I'M SORRY, IS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
WE'RE GONNA STAY WITH 20 TO 23, WE'RE NOT GONNA BRING IN TWO MORE YEARS.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE, THE COMPARISON.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR ON THE RECORD.
AND I WANNA SAY ON, ON THE RECORD THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE'RE ASKING THE STATE CONTROLLER TO, UM, UH, LOOK AT OUR FINANCIALS, WHICH I FEEL IS GREAT, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY WELCOME IT.
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UM, THAT IT SHOULD GO UP TO 2025, BECAUSE BY THE END OF 2025, ACTUALLY EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO WORK ON IT, THEY WANT TO START LOOKING AT 2026, UH, PRACTICES.THAT'S FINE WITH ME ALSO BECAUSE THE GOAL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS TO CORRECT THINGS GOING FORWARD.
AND IF WE ONLY HAVE INFORMATION UP TO 2020, THE END OF TWO 2023, THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE ISN'T ABLE TO GIVE US INFORMATION THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD MAXIMIZE OUR HEALTH HELPFULNESS, UH, TO, UM, TO MAKING THE TOWN BETTER.
AND I'M, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, UH, I WILL REACH OUT TO THE STATE CONTROLLER AND I, I WILL ON MY OWN, ASK THE STATE CONTROLLER, I WILL INDICATE THAT AS, UH, THE CH THE AS TOWN SUPERVISOR.
I, UM, I'M GONNA, UH, WRITE A, A LETTER TO THE STATE CONTROLLER SAYING THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF AT THE TIME THEY, I, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
KIMBERLY, WE SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID.
ALTHOUGH THESE FINDINGS AFRAID ARE VERY SERIOUS.
THE STATE COMPTROLLER LOOKS AT FISCAL DISTRESS AND WE ARE NOT ON THEIR LIST FOR FISCAL DISTRESS.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR WE WILL GET WITH THEM.
UM, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDS ON A BUDGETARY BASIS HERE WITH THESE FINDINGS, BUT WE HAVE 14 FUNDS AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE WHEN WE FILE OUR A UD, WHICH IS OUR REPORT, UM, OF OUR FINANCIALS FOR THE YEAR.
AND THEY COME OUT WITH A LIST EVERY YEAR OF MUNICIPALITIES UNDER FISCAL DISTRESS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I I'M NOT SURE WHAT CONSIDERATION THEY WILL GIVE TO THE FINDINGS, THAT'S ALL I WANNA SAY.
BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING HIM TO LOOK AT IS HOW WE GOT INTO THIS SITUATION.
WE MAY NOT TECHNICALLY, 'CAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW WE CHATTED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER FUNDS, WE'RE NOT IN FISCAL DISTRESS YET, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE AN ACCOUNTING OF HOW DID WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY SHY, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IT ALL BACK.
NO ONE CAN PRETEND LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THE, THAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS BACK.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FRACTION OF THAT, THAT WE'LL, WE'LL BE MAYBE BE ABLE TO GET BACK THROUGH DOING SOME, UM, FORECLOSURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE'S SOME OF THAT MONEY WE'RE JUST NEVER GONNA GET BACK FROM PAST YEARS.
WE PROBABLY WON'T GET THAT BACK.
YOU KNOW WHAT? OKAY, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE AGENDA SO WE CAN GO, I'LL WRITE TO THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AND, UH, AND YOU MENTIONED, YEP.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE SO WE CAN MOVE THE AGENDA TO DO OUR AGENDA REVIEW.
SO THERE IS ONE THING THAT'S GLARING.
WE CAN GO OVER THE OTHER THING.
I DON'T THINK I, OH, DO I HAVE YOUR AGENDA? OKAY, COMMISSIONER HANDS JOINING.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? AGENDA? I DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT 11 YET.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE, BEFORE THE SUPERVISOR MADE A JOKE AND HE SAID YOU WERE GONNA BE HERE TILL 11.
THE TOWN BOARD MEETING AGENDA? YEAH.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T MIND.
ARE YOU GONNA, YOU GOT IT WHEN YOU'RE READY? I HAVE A COUPLE UPDATES.
HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE SAID THERE WAS A GLARING, SO THERE'S A GLARING, THERE'S A GLARING ONE JUST ON THE ASSESSOR SAS A S ONE.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE.
SO THAT IS ACTUALLY THE WRONG HEADING ALTOGETHER.
SO IT DID, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH, IT, IT IS CORRECT THAT THIS RESOLUTION WOULD RESCIND AS ONE OF 1 14 20 26.
UM, BUT THE CONTRACT IS NOT FOR AN ANNUAL AMOUNT OF $35,000.
IT'S A THREE YEAR CONTRACT, $35,000 THE FIRST TWO YEARS, AND THEN A 5% INCREASE ON THE THIRD YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF $106,750, WHICH WE DID SUBMIT.
SO I WILL HAVE THAT, UH, UPDATED FOR THE AGENDA.
THAT WAS THE CAP FOR THE FINAL YEAR.
SO THAT THE ENTIRE CONTRACT IS A THREE YEAR PERIOD AND YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING INSTEAD OF OPEN-ENDED FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
WHAT WAS THE 5% TOTAL? SO THE TOTAL IS $106,750.
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SO WAS IT LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE? UH, I GUESS WE SHOULD SPEAK TO THE ASSESSOR, BUT THEY NEEDED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AS A, AS A CONSULTANT TO TEACH THEM HOW TO BETTER DO OUR ESTIMATES, OUR ASSESSMENTS.UH, IS THIS ANY WAY RELATED TO THAT? I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
THAT WAS A SEPARATE RIGHT, BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A ONE TIME THING AND THEN THEY WOULD ALL BE TRAINED AND THEY WOULDN'T NEED YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS WITH TYLER.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS, I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THIS.
SO MAYBE WE COULD GET THAT CLARIFIED FOR TOMORROW NIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE SHE'LL BE AVAILABLE BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHT, BUT I WILL CHECK IN.
OH, IS SHE AWAKE? IS SHE AWAKE? I BELIEVE SO.
SO SHOULD WE HOLD THIS OVER? WELL, THAT'S FINE.
WELL, WELL, THIS WE HAVE NO, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO I WILL, I WILL DO MY BEST TO GET AN ANSWER.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIND THE RESOLUTION OF RETAINING THE OTHER PERSON AND THEN SEE WHAT IT'S RELATED TO.
WE'RE STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING.
DO YOU WANT HAVE GARRETT, UH, AND CJ SPEAK FIRST AND THEN, UH, THEY COULD LEAVE.
SO THIS WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, KEEP THEM HERE, UH, UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
SO YOU
WHERE IS THE, WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE, WHY ARE WE HEARING THAT NOISE? DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.
YOU CAN PRESS THE BUTTON AND SILENCE IT AND I, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE WHO'S HERE? I'LL DO IT.
IT SOUNDS, LET'S GO, LET'S START.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO HIT MY HEAD.
YOU WANT ME BOTH LOOK ALIKE? ST.
I'M THE DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER FOR THE HERE, FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
WE HAVE, UH, A HANDFUL OF RESOLUTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR GO THROUGH THEM BRIEFLY IF YOU'D LIKE.
SO, UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, IS A BIG ONE.
WE, UM, WE HAVE THE LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH THE, THE, THE BUILDING AT 100 EAST HARSDALE AVENUE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO TO REPAIR THAT PIPE.
AND JOE, JOE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT AND, AND THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ATTORNEY WAS ALSO VERY HELPFUL.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP IN GUIDING THIS WAS ALONG.
THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIG ONE.
UM, BUT WE'RE WE, WE, WE GOT IT NOW.
UM, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT NO.
UM, THIS, THIS IS JUST, THERE ARE, THERE IS NO MONETARY AMOUNT.
IT'S THE ABILITY TO DO THE WORK ON THEIR PROPERTY.
OH, THIS IS THE EASEMENT, BASICALLY.
OH, THAT YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
UH, AND I WANNA MENTION THAT THERE'S RESIDENTS, UH, JUST TO PRAISE YOU.
I, I DON'T WANT GET YOU IN TROUBLE, BUT, UH, BUT THE THING IS, UH, UH, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO WERE CRITICAL OF THE HUNDRED EAST HARTILL AVENUE ISSUES MONTHS AGO, AND THEY HAVE INDICATED TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, IN HINDSIGHT, UH, THEY KNOW YOU'RE WORKING REALLY HARD AND THEY REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW DEDICATED YOU ARE.
AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW HOW THOROUGH YOU ARE AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE REALLY AN ASSET TO THE TOWN.
AND THESE ARE FROM PEOPLE WHO SIX MONTHS AGO WERE YELLING AND SCREAMING AT, AT, AT ME AND US.
BUT I, THE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS, COULD YOU GIVE THE BOARD LIKE THE MOST UP TO DATE WHERE WE ARE ON A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE? UH, SURE.
WE, WE, WE MET WITH THE CONSULTANT, UH, YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, ACTUALLY, EVEN DESPITE THE STORM.
UM, THEY ARE, THEY ARE WRAPPING UP.
UM, THEY HAD SOME COMMENTS FROM THE, THE BUILDINGS ENGINEER.
THEY HAD SOME COMMENTS FROM, FROM OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, THE TOWN ENGINEER AND, AND, UH, MYSELF ON, ON THE APPLICATION TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, THE BUILDING HAD SOME COMMENTS TO, TO THEIR DRAWINGS TO MAKE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING AND COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING AROUND THEIR BUILDING IN AND AROUND THEIR BUILDING.
UM, AND THEY'RE CONFIDENT THAT WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT TO THE, TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UM, ALSO, I GOT AN EMAIL, I GUESS WE BOTH GOT EMAILS FROM, UH, THE COMPLEX AND THEY SAID THERE WAS SOME, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SNOW STORM, THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THAT SERIOUS OR, UH, IS THAT, UH, I WAS, I WAS ON SITE TODAY.
I THINK THEY, THEY HAVE TO HEAT THE AREA NOW IN, IN THE, IN THE WINTER.
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A RESULT OF THAT WITH THE SNOW ON, ON, ON SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IN THE HEATERS.BUT, UH, UH, EVERYTHING IS OKAY TO NOW.
AND THE CONTRACTOR WILL ACTUALLY ALSO STOP BY THE SITE TODAY AS WELL.
THEY, THEY WATCH THE PUMPS ANYWAY, BUT THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL STAFF COME AND TAKE A LOOK TODAY.
SO, UM, WOULD THE ESTIMATE BE SORT OF, IF WE GET, SAY THE FINAL REPORT, SAY TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, I'M JUST SAYING SAY TWO WEEKS, THEN WE GO TO BID.
UH, SO THE WORK PROBABLY WOULD START LATE SPRING OR EARLY SUMMER? WELL, I, I THINK IT WOULD, UH, IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO WAIT TILL WE GET THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL BEFORE GOING OUT TO BID.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS.
I'M SAYING WOULD YOU, IF YOU'D BE MAKING A GUESSTIMATE, WOULD WOULD IT BE, WOULD YOU THINK THE WORK PROBABLY COULD START IN THE SUMMER? I, I DO THINK.
YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET APPROVAL.
UM, BUT I, I THINK, I THINK WE, I THINK WE COULD.
BUT YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEEING EVERYTHING I DON'T WANNA SEND OUT, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT NEXT SUMMER OR THIS UPCOMING SUMMER, THE WORK IS GONNA START.
SO THAT'S HOPEFUL WITH EVERYTHING GOING WELL, THAT IT WILL BE ABLE TO, IT WOULD MAY START, BUT YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEEING THAT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
CJ, COULD YOU GUARANTEE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A BLIZZARD NEXT WEEK?
NO SNOW, RIGHT? NO SNOW NEXT WEEK.
I THINK WE'RE, UH, WE GOT OUR, OUR FILL OF THAT.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT IT? I DON'T KNOW.
UM, THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS, UM, FOR AUTHORIZATION TO GO OUT FOR A CURBING CONTRACT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT DOES EVERY YEAR, UH, CURBS HELP WITH, WITH DRAINAGE.
AND, UM, UH, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE TIMES WE, WE NEED TO DO THE CURBS FIRST BEFORE WE CAN PAVE THE ROAD.
SO IT ALSO IMPACTS THE, THE PAVEMENT WE WANNA GET THE, THE PAVING, WE WANNA GET THE CURBS REPAIRED OR REPLACED AND THEN, THEN WE COULD PAVE IF WE'D BEEN ABLE TO GET THE PAVING REPORT, YOU WOULD'VE REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN PART OF IT.
WE, WE GIVE, WE ARE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF ONCE OVER OF THAT REPORT, WE'RE AT A 82 OUT OF A HUNDRED, UM, WITH OVER HALF OF THE, OVER HALF OF THE ROADS BEING, UH, GRADED AT AN AVERAGE OF 97.
SO WE'VE DONE A, A LOT OF WORK IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
UM, THE THIRD RESOLUTION IS FOR, UM, REPAIRING OR REPLACING HIGHWAY, UH, GUIDE RAIL, UM, TO GO OUT TO BID TO GET A CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT FOR US.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME THEY GET, THEY GET BANGED UP, THEY GET, THEY GET, UH, YOU KNOW, DAMAGED.
AND WE ALSO, IF, IF WE DETERMINE THERE'S A PLACE, UH, TO, TO INSTALL NEW, WE CAN INSTALL NEW WITH, WITH THIS CONTRACT IF, IF NEED BE.
UM, AND THE THIRD, I'M SAY FOURTH PW FOUR IS, UH, REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THE SIDEWALK ON, ON TAXI THE ROAD, WHICH YOU GUYS DISCUSSED EARLIER MM-HMM
UM, SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO PW FIVE.
UH, FIVE AND SIX ARE, ARE, ARE RELATED.
UM, THERE'S A, A A HANDFUL OF, OF, OF PROJECTS FOR THE WATER, WATER DEPARTMENT THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
AND, UH, WHAT A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE, ARE DOING NOW IS YOU HAVE THESE ON CALL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT YOU CAN GO TO THESE PEOPLE.
WE GOT PRICING AND, AND WAGE RATES AND FROM MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS, AND THEN NOW THEY'RE KIND OF ON RETAINER ALMOST.
AND YOU CAN, YOU HAVE, YOU COULD HAVE THEIR SERVICES EXPEDITE EXPEDITED WHEN YOU NEED THEM.
UH, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS.
UM, THE, THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS, IS BASICALLY MANDATING THAT WE REPLACE A WATER TANK.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, WATER MAINS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, REPLACE AND SOME THAT WE, UH, THERE WHERE WE CAN, IF THERE'S A DEAD END, IT'S MUCH BETTER IF YOU COULD CONNECT IT INTO A LOOP.
IT, IT HELPS WITH WATER QUALITY AND, AND THE MOVEMENT OF WATER.
SO IN SOME PLACES WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
THESE, THESE FIRMS CAN HELP US WITH THAT.
UH, FOR SOME OF THAT WORK, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, UM, A STATE GRANT AND, AND THESE, THESE CONSULTANTS ARE ALSO VERY VERSED IN, IN, UH, AND, AND HOW TO, UH, PREPARE THAT PAPERWORK AND HOW TO MANAGE THE, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT.
UM, AND THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW OTHER PROJECTS.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OTHER PROJECTS, BUT THE, THE MAIN ONES ARE, ARE, OH, UM, YEAH, THE LETTING COPPER RULE IS, IS A BIG ONE THESE DAYS.
WE HAVE TO CHECK ALL THE, ON ON PW FIVE.
WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME OF THAT? SO BOTH OF THESE ARE WRITTEN SO THAT THEY ARE A THREE YEAR TERM WITH THE OPTION, UM, AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION AND, AND THE CONSULTANTS AGREEMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE YEARS.
SO THESE COULD BE FOR QUITE A WHILE.
AND OH, AND ANOTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THESE, THESE AG AGREEMENTS THEMSELVES
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ARE NOT FUNDED.SO, AND, AND WHEN, IF WE WANT TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT, OR WE WANNA DO THIS, THIS, UM, TANK REPRE WATER TANK STORAGE TANK REPLACEMENT PROJECT, THOSE ARE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGETS AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE FUNDING FROM.
THIS IS ACTUALLY AN UN UNFUNDED AGREEMENT TECHNICALLY.
SO, SO THE, THE, UM, OPTION IN EACH OF THE CASES FOR WHAT KIND FOR ANY INCREASE OR FOR THE SAME AMOUNT? SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
IN, IN THESE, UM, I BORROWED HEAVILY FROM WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE IS, UM, EVERY YEAR THEY CAN ADJUST THEIR, THEIR RATES BASED ON THE, UM, THE CPI, THE, UH, LIKE THE, THE, THE STANDARD NATIONAL, UH, RATES.
UM, SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT TO, THEY CAN REQUEST TO US TO, TO INCREASE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE APPROPRIATE PERCENTAGE.
IS THERE ANY FRAME FOR THAT? DOES IT GO FROM THREE TO 20% OR IS IT WITHIN THE RANGE OF FIVE TO 10%? YOU KNOW, THAT IT, IT DID SPIKE A FEW YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE THE, UM, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND ALL OF THAT, BUT IT, IT, IT'S USUALLY VERY STABLE AT AROUND 3%.
CAN I JUST NAME THAT UP? THANK YOU.
DO THE STATUS OF THE, UH, ROCK EXCAVATION NORTH WASHINGTON, WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? THE RFP? IT'S COVERED IN SNOW.
ONCE IT MELTS, I, I, I PROTECTED OUR INTENT, I BELIEVE IS TO HAVE A SIMILAR REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION AT THE NEXT, UH, BOARD MEETING TO GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND DO THAT.
THE POTHOLES ON THAT ROAD ARE, ARE, ARE, WELL, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING TREMENDOUS, SO.
IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO DO THE SIDEWALK FIRST, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED TO.
YOU DID PART OF THE PING THERE.
YEAH, I, I BELIEVE THEY, THEY OMITTED THAT SECTION.
SO THE NEXT, DO YOU THINK THE NEXT MEETING HAS TO BLAST? I MEAN, NOT IN A STORM, BUT DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING HOT PATCHES OR SOMETHING? THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CRATERS.
I'M, I'M, UNFORTUNATELY, UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE SO THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY GO OVER IT WHEN YOU'RE TIRED AND IT GOES UNDERNEATH YOU.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR AS SOME PEOPLE DO, THEY ACTUALLY DRIVE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WHEN THERE'S NO CAR COMING, WHICH IS NOT SAFE, UH, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HIT IT.
I'M SURE WE CAN, WE CAN DO SOMETHING THERE.
UH, DO WE STANDARD, HAVE WE STANDARDIZED ON GUIDE RAIL AS OPPOSED TO GUARDRAIL? YES.
IT'S, UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE SYNONYMOUS FROM UNDERSTAND.
WOULD GUIDE RAIL IS, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE? I THINK, HONESTLY, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF IT IS A LIABILITY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S SEMANTIC.
IT DOESN'T GUARD YOU FROM HARM.
IT GUIDES YOU TO STAY ON THE ROAD.
IT'S NOT GONNA STOP A CAR IF A CAR, OKAY.
AS, AS I WAS JUST LOOKING AT LOOKING IT UP.
THERE'S NO LEGAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEM.
A GUARDRAIL, IF THERE, LET'S SAY THERE'S A CLIFF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT AND IT'S GUARDING YOU FROM GOING OVER.
BUT I GUESS GUYS MAYBE, OR MAYBE NOT SPEED, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO GUIDE RAIL IS, I GUESS MM-HMM.
GARY DUCAN HERE, PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
COUPLE QUICK UPDATES FOR THE MEETING TOMORROW.
THERE IS THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU RECALL, THE BOARD DID HAVE A GOOD DEES DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY 10TH ON THE A DU LAW.
FROM THAT WORK SESSION DISCUSSION, WE DID NOT GET CLARITY ON WHETHER TO MAKE ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE LAW.
IT'S NO FAULT OF THE TOWN BOARD.
I'VE BEEN DOING ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ALONG WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ACTUALLY POSTPONE THE HEARING TOMORROW.
UM, SCHEDULE THREE 10, BARRING A BLIZZARD, I SUPPOSE.
WORK SESSION DISCUSSION AND THEN HAVE THIS HEARING NEXT CONTINUE MARCH 25TH.
WE'LL, SO THE 10TH IS A WORK SESSION.
AND THE WEEK PRIOR, WE'LL SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION, UH, LEADING UP TO THAT.
JOSEPH CATONA, WHO OPERATED THE HARSDALE FARMERS MARKETS, VERY EXCITED TO OPERATE AGAIN, THIS IS GOOD NEWS AND GREAT.
HAD A CONTRACT REVIEWED BY LEGAL WHO COMMENTED, SO I THINK THAT'S IN A GOOD PLACE.
HE HAS ASPIRATIONS TO START MARCH 14TH.
YOU'VE SEEN CONTRACT IF THE SNOW MELTS IN TIME.
THEN CD TWO, THANKS FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT ON THIS FUTURE TAP GRANT APPLICATION.
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FOR THE SIDEWALK PATCHES OR PORTIONS OF, UH, SIDEWALK GAPS IN THE NETWORK THERE FOR CENTRAL AVENUE.SO THERE'S A RESOLUTION ON IN SUPPORT OF THAT, SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK HARD ON THAT APPLICATION.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, CD THREE C DNC'S BUDGET IS 6,000 FOR, UH, TRAINING AND SEMINARS.
THE RESOLUTION THAT I HAD ON STATES NOT TO EXCEED 3000, THIS IS GOOD NEWS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A FLURRY OF INTEREST BY PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS AND ZONING BOARD MEMBERS.
SO I'M VERY PLEASED ABOUT THAT.
A LOT OF YEARS, ONE OR NO MEMBERS GO, UH, THIS YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FIVE AND ONE STAFF PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO.
SO AS IT TURNS OUT, I WILL HAVE THE ABSOLUTE FINAL NUMBER.
I THINK THAT FINAL NUMBER IS 3000 0 84.
SO, UH, WITH YOUR SUPPORT, I WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK TO MAKE A LAST MINUTE, UH, AMENDMENT TO THAT AGENDA AND IT WOULD REFLECT 3084 AS OPPOSED TO THE 3000.
YOU COULD, COULD YOU GIVE US HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER? YES, ABSOLUTELY NOT NOW.
AND YEAH, SO, SO I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD THAT BREAKS DOWN, BUT IN SHORT, IT'S A COMBINATION OF, UH, THE ACTUAL SEMINAR IN LODGING ONLY.
BUT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE FIVE PLUS ONE AT THE TIME.
WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE CONFIRM TODAY, WHICH WAS, WAS AWESOME.
AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OTHER QUICK ONES.
AGAIN, THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT, IT LOOKS LIKE, AND THEY NEED RECEIPTS.
UM, NINE LOT SUBDIVISION ON PAYNE.
STREET AND WINTHROP AVENUE BEFORE YOU HAVE A LETTER.
THAT, UH, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT LETTER, WE'LL HAVE, UH, ONE CIRCULATE, IF YOU COULD ALL SIGN IT.
WE'LL SEND THAT TO THE COUNTY IN SUPPORT OF, UH, THEIR INTENDED, UH, SUPPORT TO MAKE THESE NINE HOMES.
SO THIS NINE LAW APPROVED SUBDIVISION, AFFORDABLE, GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
SO EACH OF US HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER.
SO DO YOU WANT US TO SIGN ONE HERE? HERE'S THE ONE TO SIGN RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS IS FOR EACH OF US TO READ ONE PASS ALONG SO THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, I DIDN'T REALIZE IF FIVE WERE JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
SO THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT THERE AND OF COURSE, THANKS TO THE COUNTY FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
UH, JUST TWO MORE GRANT UPDATES, WHICH I DID EMAIL TO THE BOARD TODAY.
BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UH, THE TOWN WAS THE RECIPIENT OF, THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY, $160,000, UH, NEW YORK STATE HOMES AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL.
THIS FUNDING WILL SUPPLEMENT THE FOUR CORNERS EFFORT AND WILL BE USED FOR A CONSULTANT TO DO, UH, MORE ADVANCED SEEKER STUDIES.
WHAT THAT TRANSLATES INTO IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE STUDIES ARE AS COMPREHENSIVE AS, UH, CAN BE FOR, TO SUPPORT THAT ZONING EFFORT.
AND THAT THAT 160,000 HAS ZERO TOWN MATCH.
AND LASTLY, WE DID SUCCESSFULLY FILE, UH, $1.6 MILLION REQUEST WITH UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE ROUTE ONE 19, UM, COMPLETE STREETS, UH, SHARED BIKE PATH, UH, GRANT.
SO THAT SUCCESSFULLY WENT OUT THE DOOR TODAY, JUNE 26TH.
UH, KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED.
WE WILL, WE'LL PROVIDE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THERE THAT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH TARRYTOWN.
THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.
UH, I CAN CONFIRM THAT BOTH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES BY RESOLUTION SUPPORTED THEIR ONE THIRD MATCH.
SO, UM, ALL THREE COMMUNITIES ARE, ARE, ARE PARTNERING THERE AND THAT THAT WILL BE A WONDERFUL THING IF THAT GRANT IS SUCCESSFUL.
THE, UH, AN UPDATE, THE FORT HILL, UM, TRAFFIC LIGHT EASEMENT WE HAD HELD OVER.
WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? I, I'M WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS DIRECTLY AND WITH THEIR SUPPORT, WE MAY VERY WELL HAVE A RESOLUTION ON FOR MARCH 11TH, THREE SEPARATE PROPERTIES, THREE SEPARATE, UM, ACQUISITIONS OF PROPERTY MM-HMM
BY THE TOWN TO FACILITATE SOME SLIVERS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THAT PROJECT.
AND, UM, I WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE VERY SOON BY EMAIL, BUT MARCH 11TH IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THAT ALL MEMORIALIZED.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA? I MOVE, I CAN I JUST QUICKLY SAY, SORRY, I JUST WANNA SAY PUBLICLY, I'D LIKE TO THANK A FIRST DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY, AMANDA MAGNA, FOR GOING OVER THIS, THESE RESOS AND THIS AGENDA BECAUSE IT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THE, AND THE LEGAL REVIEW.
UM, AND JUST THANK YOU BECAUSE WE KEPT KEEPING EVERYTHING MOVING ALONG SO THINGS AREN'T PUSHED OFF.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY.
I'LL ADD MARTIN AND BEFORE PAUL CLOSES OUT, THE SUPERVISOR CLOSES OUT AGAIN, WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, WE ARE HAVING A BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM STARTING TOMORROW HERE AT TOWN HALL AT SIX 30.
AND WE'RE DOING LIAISON REPORTS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK.
SO, AND THOUGH NO LIAISON REPORTS DUE TO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROGRAM AND SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'LL CALL AND YEP.
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GOOD.WE READY? WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OH, ONE MORE.
AND THEN AGAIN, THANK YOU STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
I MOVE THAT WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL ITEMS AND ROBLING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.
SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I CAN'T SAY I SAID, SECOND SAID.