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WELCOME[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
TO OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING.UH, WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE WITH THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND INJUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of those around the world who have perished as victims of war, disease and natural disaster. Our hearts are with all who needlessly suffer.]
AND, UH, MEMORY OF THOSE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE PERISHED AS VICTIMS OF WAR, DISEASE, AND NATURAL DISASTER.OUR HEARTS ARE WITH THOSE WHO NEEDLESSLY, UH, SUFFER.
AND NOW, UH, FORGOT TO MENTION THAT TODAY'S, UH, MARCH 25TH, AND,
[ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk Lisa Maria Nero]
UH, NOW WE'LL DO THE ROLL CALL.PRESENT, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, PRESENT TOWN ATTORNEY AND PARLIAMENTARIAN.
[ PRESENTATIONS In celebration of Women's History Month, we will be honoring Constance Kehoe (Connie) and Raevyn Thigpen Cole ]
UM, THE CELEBRATION OF, UH, WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, AND, UM, WE'RE HONORING CONSTANCE CAO AND RAVEN, UH, THICK PEN, UH, COLE.AND, UM, UH, JOY HABER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO? AND ELLEN HENDRICKS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, UM, START THE PRESENTATIONS IN HISTORY,
SO WE INVITED SOMEONE HERE REPRESENTING 250 YEARS AGO WHO WILL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
I'M GOING TO READ THE POPULATION, NOT, NOT AN AGE, NOT AN AGE.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO READ THIS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UH, WHEREAS IN RECENT YEARS, THE GREENBERG TOWN BOARD HAS HONORED EXCEPTIONAL INDIVIDUALS OF THE TOWN WHOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED DURING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH THIS YEAR IS ESPECIALLY MEANINGFUL AS WE CELEBRATE OUR COUNTRIES.
ARE YOU GETTING READY FOR THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY THIS RIGHT,
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD WISHES TO PAY HOMAGE TO THE WOMEN WHO PARTICIPATED DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DREAM OF A COUNTRY DEDICATED TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS COME TRUE.
ALL BUT ONE WERE WESTCHESTER NATIVES AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION PLAYED NO SMALL PART IN THE FOUNDING OF OUR COUNTRY.
AND WHEREAS CONSTANT KEHO OR CONNIE, AS WE CALL HER, AFFECTIONATELY THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF REVOLUTIONARY WESTCHESTER TWO 50, ALSO KNOWN AS RW TWO 50, IS A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
SHE WOULD NO A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
SHE STARTED IN 2018, AND SHE'S A RESIDENT AND FORMER DEPUTY MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON.
SHE'S DEDICATED HER PASSION FOR HISTORY AND HER LOVE OF OUR COUNTRY TO BRING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND ANNIVERSARY, CELEBRATING ITS FOUNDING TO LIFE.
AND UNDER HER LEADERSHIP, CONNIE KEHO IS COLLA IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR W2 FIFTIES BOARD MEMBERS, ADVISORS, AND LOCAL AND REGIONAL GROUPS HAS SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS PLANNING AND STAGING EVENTS THAT EDUCATE AND INFORM US ABOUT OUR COLLECTIVE HISTORY BY CELEBRATING THE BRAVE WOMEN MEN, THEM TO INTRIGUES AND BATTLES THAT BROUGHT ABOUT THE DEMOCRACY WE ENJOY TODAY.
WHEREAS IN HONOR OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, CONNIE KEO HELPS ACCELERATE CORNELIA CORTLAND, BECKMAN, OR BEEKMAN, EXCUSE ME, MARY PHILLIPS, MORRIS, DEBORAH SAMSON, AND GINNY AT THE TIME, ONE OF THE ENSLAVED MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD OF GREENBERG'S HISTORIC ODELL HOUSE, EMBO HEADQUARTERS, WHO HAD NO LAST NAME.
SHE BRINGS THEM TO LIFE, ALL CONTRIBUTED IN MEANINGFUL WAYS THAT HELPED WIN THE WAR.
AND WHEREAS CONNIE KEHO TAUGHT SPECIAL EDUCATION IN THE BRONX AND IN ARDSLEY, AFTER MAJORING IN HISTORY AND GRADUATING CU LAUDE FROM VASSAR COLLEGE, THEN RECEIVING HER TEACHER'S CERTIFICATION FROM STUDIES AT WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY, ALSO JOY HABER'S ALMA MATER, AFTER AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACT.
ALSO, SHE WORKED AS AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR AND CONSULTED ON SCHOOL PROGRAMS. UM, THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY HER 12 YEARS AS IRVINGTON TRUSTEE AND DEPUTY MAYOR, AND ALL BEFORE THAT,
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ALL THAT BEFORE SHE UNDERTOOK THEN PRESIDENT OBAMA'S CHALLENGE IN 2016 TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN CELEBRATING THE BIRTH OF OUR NATION.JUST A FEW THINGS IN HER RESUME.
WHEREAS CONNIE KEHOE CONTINUES TO ENRICH THE LIVES OF OTHERS ALONG WITH HER HUSBAND, KEVIN WEBER, AND HER CAREER OF PUBLIC SERVICE, TEACHING AND SHARING HER LOVE OF HISTORY AND EDUCATION EXEMPLIFIES THE VERY BEST OF GREENBERG'S RESIDENTS.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HEREBY HONORS AND CELEBRATES THE REMARKABLE, REMARKABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF CONSTANT KEHO.
HER PERSONAL, PERSONAL HISTORY AND DEVOTION TO EDUCATION, HISTORY AND PASSIONATE COMMUNITY ACTIVISM CONTINUE TO INSPIRE US ALL AS WE CELEBRATE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
AND CONNIE, WE WANTED TO HONOR YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE REALLY MADE WESTCHESTER WAKE UP TO ITS HISTORY.
THERE'S SO MUCH HERE, AND REALLY THERE, THESE REPRESENT JUST SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CREATED OUR HISTORY.
SO, CONNIE, PLEASE COME ON UP.
SHALL I SAY SOMETHING TO THOSE? YES, YOU, YOU'RE ASKING ME SPEAK.
IF YOU COULD SPEAK AT THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
WE'VE JUST HAD YOU FIX YOUR TAPE.
WELL, THANK YOU, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND LISA AND ALL OF YOU AND ALL OF YOU HERE FROM GREENBERG.
UM, I, MY POINT OF COMING TODAY WAS TO TALK ABOUT THE WOMEN 250 YEARS AGO.
SO THIS IS A BIT OF A SURPRISE,
BUT THERE ARE MANY HERE IN GREENBERG, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION THAT ELLEN AND ALL OF YOU HAVE GIVEN TO ME FOR MY LEADERSHIP IN DRAWING ATTENTION TO ALL OF THE HISTORY, ACCURATE AND INCLUSIVE HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION ERA HERE IN ALL OF WESTCHESTER.
I ALSO HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING ON A STATE COMMISSION FOR THIS, APPOINTED BY ANDREA STEWART COUSIN TO SERVE AT THAT LEVEL AS WELL.
SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO, BUT
AND THIS IS THE YEAR TO PAY ATTENTION, PARTICULARLY TO THE HISTORY THAT HAPPENED IN YOUR BACKYARDS, BECAUSE A LOT HAPPENED HERE.
SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW OUR ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN TOUCH WITH, UH, ELLEN OR SUPERVISOR FINER.
IT'S REVOLUTIONARY WESTCHESTER TWO 50.
AND YOU CAN SEE EVERY MONTH WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE GOING ON.
THERE'S A GREAT EVENT GOING ON ON MAY 2ND UP IN NEW YORKTOWN HEIGHTS.
IT HONORS THE REGIMENT CALLED THE, THE RHODE ISLAND REGIMENT.
AND MANY OF THOSE MEMBERS WERE OF AFRICAN DESCENT, AND THEY SERVED HERE IN WESTCHESTER AND SUFFERED AND SACRIFICED.
AND MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOT NOTICED THEM, BUT WESTCHESTER'S GONNA NOTICE THEM NOW.
SO THAT'S AN EVENT UP IN YORKTOWN ON MAY 2ND.
SO, JUST TO QUICKLY DO WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DO, WHICH IS TO, UM, INTRODUCE YOU TO A COUPLE OF THE WOMEN WHO WERE JUST EXTRAORDINARY AND RESEARCH ABOUT THEM, IT'S LIKE A PUZZLE.
YOU KNOW, YOU START, YOU PULL ONE LITTLE THREAD AND READ ONE LETTER THAT WAS TUCKED AWAY IN SOMEBODY'S DRAWER, AND THEN A HISTORIAN FOUND IT, AND YOU FOUND OUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOMEBODY.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT HISTORY IS.
IT'S NOT SOME, UM,
IT'S LIKE BEING A POLICE DETECTIVE, AND YOU WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH THE CLUES TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
SO I'LL TALK ABOUT JUST DEBORAH.
UM, AND THE OTHERS WILL LEAVE THESE POSTERS HERE FOR A WHILE UNTIL THE END OF WOMEN'S HISTORY.
AND THOSE OF YOU WHO COME IN AND OUT, MAYBE YOU'LL LEARN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER EXTRAORDINARY WOMEN.
UM, BUT THE EXPERIENCE OF WOMEN WERE AS BURIED THEN AS THEY ARE TODAY.
AND IN THIS CASE, A WOMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS SIGNED UP TO SERVE IN THE CONTINENTAL ARMY.
HOW DID SHE DO THAT? SHE DISGUISED
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HERSELF AS A MAN, AND SHE SERVED HERE IN WESTCHESTER.SO JUST IMAGINE THAT LIFE OF THIS WOMAN, A WOMAN WITH AGENCY
AND SHE WAS SERVING, SHE WAS A MARKSMAN.
SHE WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE A WOMAN UNTIL SHE WAS VERY
SHE WAS VERY WARY WHEN SHE GOT INJURED IN THE THIGH.
AND SHE THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE DISCOVERED THAT HER GENDER WOULD BE DISCOVERED.
BUT INSTEAD, SHE TOOK HER OWN KNIFE,
LATER SHE WAS FOUND OUT, SHE WAS DISCHARGED HONORABLY, AND SHE GOT A PENSION BY FIGHTING AND FIGHTING AND FIGHTING.
SHE BECAME A SPEAKER AND WENT AROUND THE COUNTRY TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT HER EXPERIENCES TOO.
SO TO ME, THAT'S A GREAT MODEL FOR ALL THE YOUNG WOMEN HERE.
I BET THERE'S ONE OVER HERE,
SHE, SHE'S HERE AT ABOUT HAVING SOME POWER TO DO WHAT YOU THINK IS IMPORTANT.
AND I HOPE, UH, TO ALL OF YOU HERE, WHO I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU'RE HONORING ME, BUT I THINK WHAT DEBORAH S SAMSON HAS DID IN HER LIFE WAS A LITTLE MORE EXTRAORDINARY THAN WHAT I HAVE DONE.
SO LET'S KEEP OUR EYE ON UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE A VERY, UM, VARIED, A VERY, UM, A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE ENTIRE STORY OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION THAT HAPPENED RIGHT HERE.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO PHILADELPHIA, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO BOSTON, YOU CAN, BUT IF YOU STAY HERE, FIND OUT ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON, I THINK YOU'LL REALLY BEGIN TO APPRECIATE THE HISTORY IN A NEW WAY.
I JUST LIKE TO, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, THANK YOU AND RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN, UH, IN THIS EFFORT.
YOU REALLY HAVE DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY, EXTRAORDINARY JOB HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN, UM, YOU KNOW, HISTORY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS SORT OF THINKING AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DEBORAH SAMPSON, THAT, UM, DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, WOMEN REALLY LAID THE FOUNDATIONS, UM, FOR MOVEMENTS LIKE WOMEN'S SUFF, THE SUFFRAGE, UH, MOVEMENT, AND OUR, THE, THE NEED FOR, UH, WOMAN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, VOTE.
AND I REMEMBER READING, UM, AN ARTICLE ABOUT ABIGAIL ADAMS AND, UM, OH, FORGET THE LADIES
YEAH, SHE SAID, UH, REMEMBER THE LADIES WHEN FORMING, UH, NEW LAWS.
AND THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF HER, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MOTTOS, BUT WOMAN PLAYED MAJOR ROLES IN ESPIONAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, NETWORKS DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
THEY GATHERED INTELLIGENCE, UH, DURING, UH, DURING THE WAR.
UH, THEY, UH, FOLLOWED ARMIES AS, UH, CAMP FOLLOWERS, DID COOKING, NURSINGS AND NURSE WERE NURSES, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST WERE PLAYED A MAJOR, MAJOR ROLE.
I THINK OUR FREEDOMS, I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF OUR EVENTS.
YOU'VE DONE WELL GO TO WELL, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING,
ALRIGHT, WELL, I WILL LET YOU ALL GO ON TO THE EXCITING THINGS THAT ARE PART OF YOUR MEETING TONIGHT.
WE'LL PROBABLY SNEAK AWAY, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH,
AND WHEN, AND THE ODELL HOUSE IS GONNA BE, UH, OPENING UP PROBABLY IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR YES.
AND THERE'S A PICTURE RIGHT THERE OF ELL HOUSE.
SO I'M LEAVING THOSE HERE SO THAT YOU CAN ALL GET IMMERSED IN THAT AND DO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT THERE TO HAVE A MUSEUM HERE THAT HAS A FOCUS ON THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO GO TO BOSTON ANYMORE.
THAT'S THIS, THIS IS WHERE IT ALL HAPPENS, CONNIE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIG A BULLET OUT OF YOUR THIGH,
BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS KEEPING THEIR MEMORIES ALIVE IN, IN THE MINDS OF SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT OTHERWISE KNOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, HISTORY FORGOTTEN.
IS NO LONGER HISTORY BECAUSE NOBODY REMEMBERS.
BUT BY YOU BRINGING TO LIFE WITH THIS GREAT EXAMPLE, HOPEFULLY THE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY LOOK INTO HER AND OTHERS.
IN THAT, IN THAT, UM, PERIOD TO REALIZE THAT WE ALL MALE OR FEMALE WALK A, YOU KNOW, WALK IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WELL, THANK YOU FRANCIS FOR SAYING THAT.
I'M GONNA MAKE A SHAMELESS PLUG FOR, FOR THE WEBSITE IN WHICH YOU CAN LEARN.
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REVOLUTIONARY WAR TWO 50 DO ORG, RIGHT? IS IT RW? IT'S RW TWO 50 ORG.YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SO EASILY GOOGLE US NOW.
WE'VE BEEN IN SO MANY NEWS STORIES,
SO, AND YOU AND ALSO ODELL, ODELL HOUSE ROSHAMBO HEADQUARTERS HAS A WEBSITE.
AND YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENED RIGHT HERE IN GREENBURG.
ALRIGHT, WELL, AND AGAIN, THANKS SO MUCH.
YOU'RE ALL WONDERFUL DOING THE PUBLIC SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED TO KEEP THE DEMOCRACY WE FOUGHT FOR GOING.
AND I, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO SEGUE TO OUR MODERN DAY HEROES, JOY.
SO IT'S WONDERFUL TO LOOK, UH, BACK AT THE LIFE OF WOMEN WHO HAVE DONE A LOT, BUT IT'S REALLY INSPIRING TO SEE A YOUNG WOMAN WHO HAS IN HER SHORT TIME DONE SO MUCH.
AND WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TODAY WHO I JUST HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING.
I THINK WE MAY HAVE MET BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW YOU BEFORE.
AND I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU BY READING EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND IT IS SO IMPRESSIVE.
SO I'D LIKE YOU TO COME UP WHILE I READ THIS TO YOU AND I, UH, APOLOGIZE.
UM, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON, WHO, THIS WAS HER, YOU'RE HER BABY
SO, UM, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS PLEASED TO CELEBRATE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH 2026, RECOGNIZING THE VITAL CONTRIBUTIONS, ACHIEVEMENTS AND LEADERSHIP OF WOMEN WHOSE STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS RAVEN THIGPEN COLE IS A PROUD RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WHERE SHE WAS BORN, RAISED, AND HAS REMAINED DEEPLY COMMITTED TO SERVING HER COMMUNITY WITH UNWAVERING DEDICATION.
AND WHEREAS, I'M JUST GONNA SAY RAVEN FROM NOW ON, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS HER FULL NAME SEVERAL TIMES, IS A PRODUCT AND GRADUATE OF THE GREENBURG CENTRAL SEVEN SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHERE SHE DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP BY SERVING AS CLASS PRESIDENT ALL FOUR YEARS.
SHE SHOWED REMARKABLE INITIATIVE DURING HER INITIATIVE DURING HER SENIOR YEAR BY PARTNERING WITH THE FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE GREENBERG CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ENHANCE SCHOOL SAFETY PROTOCOLS CONTRIBUTING TO THE IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION OF CRITICAL SECURITY MEASURES IN RESPONSE TO THE SANDY HOOK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TRAGEDY.
AND I'M SO IMPRESSED BY THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS SUCH A HUGE TRAGEDY.
UM, WHEREAS RAVEN HAS, UH, SERVED AS A CERTIFIED TEACHER'S ASSISTANT AT BLYTHEDALE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, EXCELLENT INSTITUTION, WHERE SHE PROVIDED EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT AND COMPASSIONATE CARE TO DISABLED SPECIAL NEEDS AND TERMINALLY ILL YOUTH.
I HAVE A DAUGHTER WITH DISABILITIES MYSELF, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, SHE FURTHERED HER WORK IN EDUCATION AT HIGHVIEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHERE HER DEDICATION EXCELLENCE LED TO EXPANDED RESPONSIBILITIES, INCLUDING COVERING CLASSROOMS FOR TEACHERS ON LEAVE.
AND WHEREAS RAVEN'S COMMITMENT TO SERVICE CONTINUED THROUGH HER WORK AT THE THEODORE DE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, WHERE SHE BEGAN AS A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE AND HAS GROWN INTO A DEDICATED LEADER.
IN 1922, RAVEN UH, RETURNED TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN A FULL-TIME CAPACITY WITH THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WHERE SHE HAS LED IMPACTFUL YOUTH PROGRAMMING FOCUSED ON COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS AND FINANCIAL LITERACY.
SHE HAS PLAYED A KEY LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THE T-D-Y-C-C SUMMER CAMP EXPERIENCE, SERVING AS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR A PROGRAM SUPPORTING OVER 350 YOUTH AND 120 STAFF MEMBERS.
WHERE IT'S ALSO IMPRESSIVE AS A FORMER CAMP COUNSELOR, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK, AND YOU DO IT WITH A SMILE ALWAYS, BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND YOU COME HOME TIRED.
UM, WHEREAS IN RECOGNITION OF HER LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE, RAVEN WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED TO THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY YOUTH BOARD WHERE SHE HELPS GUIDE YOUTH POLICY AND PROMOTE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE COUNTY.
I ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE YOUTH BUREAU, SO THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE JOINING THE YOUTH BOARD.
UM, WHEREAS RAVEN'S, UH, LIFE'S WORK REFLECTS HER DEEP FAITH, COMPASSION, AND COMMITMENT TO CREATING SAFE, EMPOWERING, AND INCLUSIVE SPACES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, MAKING HER A TRUE EXAMPLE OF LEADERSHIP, ADVOCACY AND EXCELLENCE.
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NOW THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG RECOGNIZES RAVEN THIG PIG COAL FOR HER OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP, MENTORSHIP, AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO UPLIFTING THE YOUTH AND FAMILIES OF THE GREENBURG COMMUNITY AND BEYOND DURING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH 2026.AND BE IT FURTHER PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBERG EXPRESSES ITS DEEP APPRECIATION FOR HER CONTINUED SERVICE AND RECOGNIZES RAVEN AS A ROLE MODEL WHOSE IMPACT WILL INSPIRE GENERATIONS TO COME.
SO RAVEN, THIS IS FOR YOU TO KEEP YEAH.
CAN I TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU? OKAY.
YOU WANNA HOLD THAT OUT? YES, EXACTLY.
SO I WILL NOT BE BEFORE YOU LONG, BUT I DID PREPARE SOMETHING TO SAY.
UH, IT IS TRULY AN HONOR TO STAND HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO BE RECOGNIZED DURING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
IN A TOWN THAT HAS RAISED ME, SHAPED ME, AND CONTINUES TO POUR INTO ME, IT MEANS MORE THAN I CAN FULLY PUT INTO WORDS.
I AM A PROUD, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND THIS COMMUNITY IS TRULY A BIG PART OF WHO I AM FROM BEING A STUDENT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO NOW SERVING THE VERY YOUTH WHO REMIND ME OF MYSELF, EVERYTHING THAT I DO IS ROOTED IN GIVING BACK TO A PLACE THAT HAS GIVEN ME SO MUCH.
GREENBERG HAS TAUGHT ME RESPONSIBILITY, RESILIENCE, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SHOW UP FOR OTHERS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE TRIED TO CARRY WITH ME, ALWAYS JUST DOING THE WORK, STAYING CONSISTENT, AND MAKING SURE YOUNG PEOPLE FEEL SEEN, SUPPORTED, AND THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY MATTER.
I WANT TO SINCERELY THANK COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON FOR THIS EXTREME HONOR.
THIS MEANS SO MUCH COMING FROM COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON BECAUSE SHE'S KNOWN ME MY ENTIRE LIFE, THE ENTIRE LIFE,
UM, SO THIS KIND OF RECOGNITION I DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY.
UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO, UH, HONOR THE WOMEN WHO SIT AND SERVE ON OUR TOWN BOARD EVERY SINGLE MONTH, COUNTLESSLY MEETING AND DISCUSSING FOR HOURS HOW YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THIS PLACE BETTER.
UH, YOU TRULY INSPIRE ME MORE THAN YOU KNOW.
AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MENTORS, UH, MENTEES, I'M HERE.
UH, YOU TRULY ARE SUPER WOMEN AND I'M GRATEFUL TO, UH, HAVE KNOWN AND WATCH YOU GUYS EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
UM, BUT THAT LEADS ME TO THE MINDSET OF WHAT A SUPERWOMAN IS AND WHERE THAT STEMMED FOR ME.
UM, AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T HONOR MY MOM, SHANNON ROHN.
UM, SHE IS THE TRUE EPITOME OF SERVICE.
UH, SHE HAS TAUGHT ME THAT SHRINKING IS NOT AN OPTION.
UH, THAT DOING WHAT IS RIGHT MATTERS MORE THAN RECOGNITION.
AND THAT HOW YOU SHOW UP FOR THE WORLD OR SHOW UP IN THE WORLD, YOUR CHARACTER, YOUR WORK ETHIC, AND YOUR CONSISTENCY IS WHAT TRULY DEFINES YOU.
EVERYTHING I AM IS BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU POURED INTO ME.
SO I THANK YOU TO EVERY WOMAN WHO MAY NOT BE NAMED TONIGHT, BUT CONTINUES TO SHOW UP, TO LEAD, TO POUR INTO OTHERS.
I STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF WOMEN LIKE YOU.
I'M COMMITTED TO BEING THE FOUNDATION FOR THE NEXT GENERATION TO STAND ON WITHOUT HESITATION.
YOU ALL HAVE SHOWN ME WHAT REAL LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE, THAT IT ISN'T DISTANT, THAT IT'S PRESENT, THAT IT'S ACTIVE, AND IT HAPPENS RIGHT ON THE FRONT LINE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO YOU SERVE.
I TRULY LEAN ON THIS SCRIPTURE ON A DAILY BASIS FOR ENCOURAGEMENT.
UM, AND I HOPE IT BLESSES YOU ALL THE SAME.
THE SCRIPTURE COMES FROM GALATIANS SIX AND NINE.
LET US NOT GO WEARY IN DOING GOOD FOR IN THE PROPER TIME.
YOU WILL REAP A HARVEST IF YOU DO NOT GIVE UP.
NO MATTER WHAT YOUR GENDER STAY THE COURSE YOU ARE ON ASSIGNMENT, IT'S BIGGER THAN YOU, IT'S BIGGER THAN THE PUBLIC APPRECIATION, YOUR HARVEST IS COMING.
SO TO THAT, I SAY TO GOD, BE ALL THE GLORY.
THANK YOU TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR THIS ESTEEM.
HONOR ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON.
I KNOW SHE'S WATCHING FROM THE AIR
UM, THANK YOU TO MY VILLAGE, BIG GREENBERG, TO MY FAMILY.
UM, TO THE YOUTH WHO I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH, WHO TRUST US
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EVERY DAY TO THE T-D-Y-C-C TEAM.THANK YOU GUYS TO OUR COMMISSIONERS, TO THE BADDEST TEAM IN YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH,
I THANK YOU ALL SO, SO VERY MUCH.
UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, TO MY HUSBAND JAMES, WHO HAD TO RUN OUT BECAUSE HE HAD TO GO SERVE YOUTH ALSO.
UM, I WANTED TO SAY TO HIM THAT I LOVE YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT FOR ALWAYS ALLOWING ME THE SPACE TO DO THIS WORK.
ANYONE WHO KNOWS, UH, WHAT IT IS TO, TO WORK IN THIS LINE OF WORK AND CIVIL SERVICE, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S LONG HOURS OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND SUPPORT.
YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THIS MEANS TO ME.
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR, AND I AM SO GRATEFUL.
THANK AND YOU COULDN'T SEE, YOU COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T SEE YOUR MOM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CAMERA.
BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE AN EXCELLENT LIP READER WHERE SHE KEPT SAYING, I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, TO YOU.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ONLY FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE THAT ARE HERE, IT'S COWORKERS.
LOOK AT ALL THESE COWORKERS HOW MUCH RESPECT AND LOVE THEY HAVE FOR HER.
WHAT DOES THAT SAY? THANK YOU.
I HAD WONDERFUL WOMAN TO LEAD ME.
UH, MR. SHE AND I HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF MEETING YOUR WIFE AND BEING UNDER HER TUTELAGE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SHE HAS POURED INTO SO MANY YOUTH IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND TO HAVE KNOWN HER HAS BEEN AN HONOR.
AND I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING HER THE SPACE TO DO WHAT SHE DID, TO POUR INTO WOMEN LIKE ME SO THAT I COULD SHOW UP ON A DAILY BASIS.
SHAMELESS PLUG VERY QUICKLY HOLD THE APPLAUSE.
IF YOU ARE A GREENBERG RESIDENT AND YOU ARE LOOKING FOR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING HERE AT THE THEODORE DE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, WE SERVICE YOUTH MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CAMERA IS, BUT WE WANT FOR ALL OF YOU BABIES TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A SAFE SPACE FOR YOU.
THAT WE OFFER SO MANY PROGRAMS AND THAT WE WANT YOU TO COME DOWN IF THERE'S SOMETHING NOT THERE AND YOU WANNA SEE IT, COME AND SPEAK TO YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING TO SERVICE YOU.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS WORK.
AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, AND SHE ALREADY IS A ROLE MODEL.
SHE CAN THANK YOU FOR BEING A ROLE MODEL AND, UH, INSPIRATION IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO FORTUNATE THAT YOU'RE PART OF THE TOWN AND YOU ARE REALLY MAKING A MAJOR POSITIVE D DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF MANY, MANY PEOPLE OVER, OVER THE YEARS.
WE'RE MAKING A NAMEPLATE FOR YOU.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, PASS A RESOLUTION THAT WE SHOULD CLONE YOU.
NEXT, UM, ON THE AGENDA, UM, WE'RE NOT DOING A LIAISON OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA.
[ TOWN CLERK COMMENTS AND PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS]
AND THE NEXT THING IS, UM, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE TOWN CLERK, TOWN CLERK COMMENTS OR FROM THE BOARD TOWN CLERK? UH, NO.NO ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THIS TIME.
[ TWO MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT LIGHTNING ROUND (for anyone who can’t stay for the regular Public Comment session)]
GONNA HAVE THE LIGHTNING ROUND, SO FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA, UH, NOT STAY, AND IF YOU WANNA SAY A COUPLE WORDS, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, MAYBE WE'LL GIVE PEOPLE, UH, IF YOU, IF SOME PEOPLE WANNA LEAVE, UH, RIGHT.WE'LL JUST GIVE YOU A MINUTE OR SO AND THEN WE WILL, THAT'S OUR PRESENT TO YOU.
YOU GET, YOU GET TO GO OUT ON RAVEN'S THEME MUSIC,
I GUESS WE JUST WAIT A MINUTE.
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OKAY.SO, UH, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE TWO MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT LIGHTNING ROUND.
SO CAN WE HAVE, THERE'S TWO, WAIT, LET ME JUST, SORRY, HAVE ME FINISH.
THERE'S TWO ROUNDS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA AWAIT, UH, UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OVER.
YOU GOT TWO MINUTES, AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, YOU COULD, OR YOU COULD, UM, UH, STAY UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE GONNA BE.
UM, AND THEN YOU GET FIVE MINUTES IF YOU WAIT AROUND.
TWO MINUTES OR FIVE MINUTES, TWO MINUTES BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, FIVE MINUTES AFTER.
THAT'S, AND I EXPLAINED THAT EARLIER.
YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE AND NOT THE OTHER.
TO START OFF, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MR. GARY MALONE.
FINER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, COULD YOU RAISE THE MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT? OH, YES.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT A NATIONAL DISGRACE, THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND DEADLY PRACTICES OF ICE AND CBP.
FOR THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I'VE BEEN ASKING MUNICIPALITIES TO CONSIDER APPROVING A MODEL RESOLUTION THAT I DRAFTED, PETITIONING THE US GOVERNMENT TO END THE ABUSES OF ICE AND CBP THAT ARE THREATENING THE PEACE AND WELFARE OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION.
VERSIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE BOARDS OF ODDSLY, HASTINGS, DOBBS FERRY, AND TARRYTOWN.
THE RESOLUTION CONDEMNS THE ABUSIVE PRACTICES OF ICE AND CBP AND PETITIONS, THE US GOVERNMENT TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF THESE ABUSES AND ADOPT PROCEDURES DESIGNED TO PREVENT THESE ABUSES.
NOW, GIVEN THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE PEACE AND SECURITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY SHOULD ADDRESS CONDUCT THAT COULD THREATEN THEIR RESIDENTS.
AND THE USE OF MASKED NO DAMAGE FEDERAL AGENTS TERRORIZING OR ABIDING RESIDENTS, IS THREATENING THE SAFETY AND LIVES OF RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, FEDERAL AGENTS SHOULD NOT BE SHOOTING AND KILLING PEOPLE WHO POSE NO IMMINENT THREATS.
FEDERAL AGENTS SHOULD NOT BE BREAKING INTO THE HOMES OF PEOPLE WITHOUT JUDICIAL WARRANTS.
AND YET THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SAW ICE AND CBP AGENTS DO IN MINNEAPOLIS.
I SERVED ON THE ODDSLY VILLAGE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR 12 YEARS, DURING WHICH WE EXPECTED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECTIVE RIGHTS FROM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OWE IT TO THEIR RESIDENTS TO DEMAND NO LESS FROM FEDERAL AGENTS.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER VOTING FOR THE RESOLUTION AT YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
AND ASK EVERYONE TO ATTEND NO KING'S RALLIES ON SATURDAY, THE NO KING RALLY.
UH, TOWN HALL IS GONNA BE, UH, THIS SATURDAY AT 10:00 AM IN THE PARKING LOT OVER HERE.
UM, AND THAT'S OUTSIDE AND SPONSORED BY INDIVISIBLE, UM, CENTRAL WESTCHESTER.
KEN KATZMAN, HOA PONCY PRESIDENT, ALL THE CY PEOPLE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE THIS EVENING.
WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR HELP FOR VERY SERIOUS SITUATION REGARDING POLLUTED STONE WATER THAT IS COMING ONTO OUR PROPERTY.
AS YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE, WE HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL PONDS AT PONDSIDE, BUT THEY'RE NOT JUST EYE CANDY.
WE GET STORMWATER OFF OF OUR PROPERTY.
WE RECENTLY DID AN ENTIRE OVERHAUL OF THAT SYSTEM, AND FOUR MONTHS AFTER WE DID ALL THAT WORK, POLLUTED RUNOFF FROM THE BRIGHTVIEW SITE BEGAN APPEARING AT PON SIDE.
THE CONSULTING ENGINEER CONFIRMED THAT RUNOFF, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT BAD LOOKING BROWN WATER FULL OF DIRT AND SEDIMENT WAS COMING OFF OF BRIGHTVIEW DOWN DOBBS FERRY ROAD INTO NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT
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OF TRANSPORTATION CULVERT IN THAT CULVERT OF PIPES THAT GO UNDER DOBBS FERRY ROAD AND GO ONTO THE POND SIDE PROPERTY.SO LOOK AT THE BEFORE AND AFTER.
LOOK AT THE BEFORE POLLUTION AND AFTER POLLUTION, WE HAD TO SPEND AS UNIT OWNERS $181,000 TO RESTORE THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE.
AND NOW WE HAVE ADDITIONAL POLLUTION THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA COST US A LOT MORE MONEY.
SIX VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN ISSUED, BUT POLLUTING CONTINUES FROM THE SITE.
STATE LAW IS VERY, VERY CLEAR.
THE TOWN CAN AND MUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO POLLUTION COMING ONTO OUR SITE.
WE NEED IT TO END AND IT NEEDS TO END NOW.
AND SO THERE ARE FOUR KEY THINGS.
WE NEEDED AN IMMEDIATE STOP WORK ORDER.
WE NEED IMMEDIATELY A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO STOP THE RUNOFF.
WE CAN'T ALLOW ANY CONSTRUCTION IF THERE'S FUTURE POLLUTION, AND WE NEED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR OUR RESTORATION.
WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TODAY, AND WE DO ASK THAT YOU TAKE SERIOUSLY ALL OF THESE OWNERS HERE WHO ARE VERY FRUSTRATED AND NEED SOME ACTION FROM THE BOARD.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ESTIMATE HOW MANY PEOPLE RAISE THEIR HAND? WE HAVE, WELL, OVER, I THINK 60 PEOPLE HERE.
THEY ARE UPSET, THEY ARE FRUSTRATED.
AND WE, WE REALLY NEED OUR TOWN TO HELP GET BEHIND US AND SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
NOW, A LOT OF THESE FOLKS, SOME OF THEM ARE ON FIXED INCOMES AND THEY NEED HELP.
WE CAN'T BEAR THESE COSTS, GUYS.
NO, I, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH YOU FOR THE PAST, UH, YOU KNOW, WEEK OR SO AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD HAVE A, A MEETING WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, BRIGHT VIEW THERE.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO GIVE THIS PRIORITY.
THIS IS A MAJOR QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERN.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU REALLY, YOU REALLY HIGHLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TOWN NOT LOOKING THE OTHER WAY AND DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THIS GETS THE PRIORITY ATTENTION.
SO I THINK NEXT TUESDAY WHEN WE HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE, UH, ENGINEER ON A DAILY BASIS, UH, JASON KAPO, AND HE GAVE US A DETAILED, YOU KNOW, REPORT.
UM, HE SAID SOME OF THE, UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS, THE RUNOFF IS DUE TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER REASONS, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE HIM AT THE WORK SESSION NEXT TUESDAY.
AND THEN WE SHOULD GET A REPORT ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS.
AND IF THE, MAYBE IF BRIGHTVIEW DOESN'T CLEAR UP, UH, VIOLATIONS THAT ARE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, THEN I FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE MEANS.
SO, UM, UH, THE, SO YOUR QUALITY, QUALITY OF LIFE WON'T BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT, UH, WE SHOULD WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE MADE WHOLE IF, IF ANYBODY ELSE CREATED THE PROBLEMS FOR YOU.
YEAH, I KNOW WE'RE OUTTA TIME, BUT I WANT TO APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
AND I WANNA STRESS THE RAINY SEASON IS HERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FORECAST THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL, IT'S EIGHT STRAIGHT DAYS OF RAIN.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RUNOFF DOESN'T CONTINUE.
SO, I, I HAVE TO HOLD EVERYONE TO THE TWO MINUTES.
I JUST DO WANNA TELL YOU AND EVERYONE HERE THAT, UM, I KNOW OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND THEY ARE SENDING SOMEONE TO THE SITE ON A DAILY BASIS AT THIS POINT.
THERE IS A CURRENT NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO BRIGHTVIEW AND ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW WHERE MAKING SURE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO REMEDY THE SITUATION AND TO KEEP THAT CLEAR MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.
SO, UM, I KNOW JASON KAPO, AS THE SUPERVISOR HAD SAID, UM, HAS, HAS WEIGHED IN.
HE WILL CONTINUE TO WEIGH IN, HE'LL CONTINUE TO REVIEW THIS AND HAVE STAFF LOOK AT IT AND WE REALIZE IT'S A PRIORITY.
AND I APPLAUD HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT TONIGHT ACTUALLY, THAT, THAT CHOSE.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF NO, I JUST ASK A QUESTION JUST SO PEOPLE DON'T FEEL THAT WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS AND SAYING, OH, WE'RE GONNA HELP AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
COULD, WOULD THE BOARD BE WILLING TO PUT THIS ON, UH, THE WORK SESSION? NUMBER ONE ITEM ON EACH WORK SESSION? UH, WHERE WE COULD GET A REPORT, UM, A PROGRESS REPORT, UM, ADVISE BRIGHTVIEW LAWYERS AND, UM, METROPOLIS, UH, ATTORNEYS, THAT IS GONNA BE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA EVERY TUESDAY UNTIL THIS MATTER IS RESOLVED.
BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF WE DO THIS, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA FALL.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET DISTRACTED.
UM, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
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NOT GONNA BE FOCUSING ON OTHER ISSUES.AND IF WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A PERMANENT ITEM ON THE AGENDA UNTIL YOU'RE SATISFIED AND YOUR RESIDENTS ARE SATISFIED, THEN I FEEL THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, ACTUALLY GET RESULTS RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN TALKING, I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING YEAH, WE WANT ACTION.
AND BEFORE I GO, I JUST WANNA STRESS, SIX VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN ISSUED ALREADY OVER QUITE A PERIOD OF TIME FROM THE STATE AND THE TOWN, YET THE PSYCH CONTINUES TO BE ACTIVE AND CONTINUES TO POLLUTE.
SO I WANNA STRESS, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THE IMMEDIACY, I WANNA STRESS FOR ALL THESE HOMEOWNERS, IT NEEDS TO STOP NOW, NOT IN A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS.
AND TO, TO THE SUPERVISORS SUGGESTION, UH, JA, THE JASON CAP HAS BEEN MAKING REPORTS AND CERTAINLY THERE'S NO REASON WHY YOU CAN'T READ HIS REPORT OFF AT THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH, THOROUGH.
WE, WE DON'T WANNA MISS INSPECTING.
I I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU.
THE FACT THAT WE GIVE A VIOLATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
RIGHT? SO WE ARE GETTING, AND WE ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISOR SAYS, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT TAKING, WE ARE, WE RARELY SEND AN ENGINEER OUT DAILY TO TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE MITIGATION FEATURES THAT THEY PUT ON THERE.
SUPERVISOR DIDN'T MENTION IT, BUT ACCORDING TO OUR ENGINEER, MUCH OF WHAT'S COMING OFF NOW IS FROM METROPOLIS, NOT FROM BRIGHTVIEW.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
SO WE ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
WE WANT TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU HAVING TO CLEAN UP THE POND ANOTHER TIME.
UH, AND WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE THIS RIGHT, AND WE COULD HAVE YOU COME OUT TO EVERY WORK SESSION.
IT'S A WASTE, FRANKLY, OF YOUR TIME, WHICH BETTER OFF FOR US TO CONTINUE THE INTENSIVE ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE DOING.
I KNOW THAT MAY NOT SEEM SATISFACTORY TO YOU, BUT WE CAN'T JUST TAKE THEM TO COURT IF THEY ARE CONTINUALLY TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOSE, WE WOULD RATHER GET IT CLEANED UP AND DO IT PROP AND PROPERLY.
WE, WE CAN'T HAVE A BACK AND FORTH WITH THE AUDIENCE.
IF YOU WANT TO USE YOUR TWO MINUTES, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO SIGN UP AND COME TO THE PODIUM AND YOU'LL GET YOUR TWO MINUTES.
BUT THIS, THIS THING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS, AS YOU KNOW, YOU'VE INDICATED TO ME.
AND, AND THEY, JUST TO BE CLEAR FROM THE RECORD GUYS, RIGHT? SO THE THING IS, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BRIGHT VIEW OR METROPOLIS, WE JUST WANT TO GET THE PROBLEM CLEARED.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF I'M, SO, DO YOU HONESTLY GIVE A VIOLATION TO METROPOLIS? YOU KNOW WHAT, AND I I'M JUST ASKING, SHOULD WE GIVE A VIOLATION TO METROPOLIS? YES.
SHOULD VIOL, LET DO ANYONE, ANYONE WHO DESERVES A VIOLATION SHOULD GET A VIOLATION.
OKAY? BUT A VIOLATION IS NOT A SUMMONS.
AND WHILE WE HAVE TO DO IN RESPECT TO, UH, YOUR COMMUNITY IS LET YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO, AND BASICALLY, I WANT YOU TO FEEL AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING LEGALLY POSSIBLE, UM, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND, UM, AND THE THING IS, I FEEL IF WE HAVE A MEETING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, OKAY, THERE'S A VIOLATION AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE COULD DO, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, IF THE VIOLATION ISN'T CLEARED UP, UH, LEADING TO A STOP WORK ORDER IF NECESSARY, THEN YOU'LL, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LEGAL LIMITATIONS ARE, AND THEN WE COULD WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THE, THE BEST PLAN.
AND I ALSO, I'VE SENT LETTERS TO BRIGHT VIEW'S ATTORNEY.
I'LL SEND ANOTHER COMMUNICATION AND I'LL CALL BRIGHT VIEW'S LAWYERS.
AND I'LL SAY THAT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THERE SHOULD BE A STOP WORK ORDER IF IT'S NOT CLEARED UP QUICKLY.
UM, UH, THAT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING.
UH, BUT I THINK IF WE HAVE THE MEETING AND EVERYBODY'S IN THE ROOM, AND BRIGHTVIEW AND METROPOLIS REALIZE THAT WE'RE TAKING THIS VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY, THEY'LL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
AND I THINK IT, THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT WE COULD GET SOMETHING DONE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPEAK TO PEOPLE FROM BRIGHTVIEW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS LAWSUITS, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF ANYBODY CAUSED DAMAGE TO YOUR PROPERTY, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
AND, AND NOW THAT WE'VE DETERMINED THAT A LOT OF THE SEDIMENT IS FLOWING DOWN FROM THE PARKING LOT RENOVATION THAT METROPOLIS IS DOING, THEY'VE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE.
SO WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE WORKING ON BOTH FRONTS, WORKING WITH BRIGHTVIEW AND WITH METROPOLIS TO CLEAR IT UP.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR YOU AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
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MAYBE EVEN BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GIVE US LIKE A TIME, MAYBE, UH, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, MYSELF AND REPRESENTATIVES OF BRIGHTVIEW, WE COULD MEET EVEN BEFORE A WORK SESSION, AND THEN WE CAN MEET WITH THEIR LAWYERS AND, UM, AND LET THEM KNOW HOW SERIOUS IT IS.BECAUSE WHEN I, UH, GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE ATTORNEY FOR BRIGHTFIELD, THEY SAID, OH, PLEASE DON'T GIVE US A A STOP WORK ORDER.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, IF THERE, IN, IF THEY CAUSE A PROBLEM, WE MAY HAVE TO GIVE THEM A STOP WORK ORDER, AND THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SERIOUS AND WE'RE NOT GONNA LOOK THE OTHER WAY.
SO I THINK I'D BE HAPPY IF YOU WANNA GIVE ME SOME TIMES, WE'LL SET UP.
WE WE SHOULD SET UP A MEETING WITH THEIR LAWYERS OR REPRESENTATIVES AND THEN, UM, AND THEN SIT DOWN AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS AND WE'RE GONNA ENFORCE THE LAW.
PAUL, WE ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO MEET.
I'M SORRY, I, I, I, I KNOW, BUT WE HAVE A TWO MINUTE ROUND FOR A REASON AND WE'RE REALLY VIOLATING OUR OWN RULES HERE.
BUT I, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SCHEDULE THAT MEETING TO ATTEND ANYTIME.
I, THEY REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.
NO, THEY, THEY LOOK VERY SURPRISED.
WE WILL JUST TAKE LIKE ANOTHER MINUTE OR SO BREAK UNTIL EVERYBODY CARES.
CAN WE TAKE A MINUTE RECESS, PLEASE? SURE.
IT'LL TAKE A TWO MINUTE RECESS UNTIL THE ROOM CLEARS.
JUST REPEAT FOR THE RECORDING.
UM, SUPERVISOR FINER, I WAS ASKING IF WE WERE READY TO BEGIN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND HE ASKED ME IF THERE WERE ANY MORE TWO MINUTE SPEAKERS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BEFORE WE START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ARE THERE ANY MORE TWO MINUTE SPEAKERS OF PUBLIC COMMENT,
I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN, UH, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UM, CHIEF, DO TO CONSIDER A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT CHIEF? DO OKAY.
TO CONSIDER ONE YEAR AGREEMENT, WE, BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG AND THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG RESIDENCE.
MR. SUPERVISOR, I APOLOGIZE, I DID NOT REALIZE CHIEF DOW WANTED TO SPEAK ON TWO MINUTES.
UM, DID CHIEF DOW WANNA TALK ON THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? BECAUSE IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU'LL GET A FULL FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTS.
UH, IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT, I WOULD JUST GO FOR THE TWO MINUTES.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE QUICK STATEMENT ABOUT THE, UH, TAX, UH, LAW CHANGE.
THIS, THIS WON'T BE PART OF THE RECORD BECAUSE IT'S NOT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STARTING, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THE LAW THAT WOULD AFFECT YOU.
SO IF YOU WAITED A LITTLE WHILE, THOSE COMMENTS WOULD BE PART OF THE RECORD.
THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS FAIRLY QUICK.
THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS FAIRLY QUICK.
IF YOU JUST DON'T MIND WAITING ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OR SOMETHING.
[ To consider a one-year agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Hastings-on-Hudson for Fire Protection Services to Unincorporated Greenburgh residents of the Donald Park Fire Protection District for the year 2025]
PAUL, YOU WANT TO OPEN THE FIRST? OKAY.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG RESIDENTS OF THE DONALD PARK FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, UH, FOR THE YEAR 2025.
THIS IS A, AN AGREEMENT THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON HAS ENGAGED IN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
IT IS TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO THE DONALD PARK FINAL PROTECTION DISTRICT.
IT'S AN AREA OF THE TOWN, UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG THAT IS NOT SERVED BY FAIRVIEW GREENVILLE OR HARTSDALE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE, UM, COST FOR 2025 IS, UH, $341,855 $341,855, UH, TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES IN THE DONALD PARK FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT.
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FEE IS THAT, UH, COST IS SOLELY BORNE BY THOSE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT AND NOWHERE ELSE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT CONTRACT? ALRIGHT, PAUL, YOU WANT TO, UM, MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING? I'D, I'D, UH, MOVE THAT WE, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
UH, THE SECOND HEARING IS TO CONSIDER A LOCAL
[ To consider a Local Law amending the enrollment requirements of Chapter 440 “Taxation” of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh as it relates to real property tax exemptions for volunteer firefighters and volunteer ambulance members]
LAW AMENDING THE ENROLLMENT REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR 40 TAXATION OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS IT RELATES TO REAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE MEMBERS.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND WELL IN FAVOR, AYE.
CHIEF, I THOUGHT IT, I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE QUICK.
DO A QUICK PRESENTATION ON THIS LAW.
SO WE DID MAKE SOME CHANGES LAST YEAR, BUT THEN IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE INADVERTENTLY DID NOT INCLUDE A 20 YEAR LIFETIME EXEMPTION FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS SERVED, UM, FOR FULL 20 YEAR SPAN.
AND THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION.
SO TONIGHT WE ARE REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN.
UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'D, I'D LIKE TO READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY, IT'S QUICK.
ANY ELIGIBLE ENROLLED MEMBER WHO ACCRUES MORE THAN 20 YEARS OF ACTIVE VOLUNTEER SERVICE AS CERTIFIED BY THE TOWN BOARD SHALL BE GRANTED THE 10% EXEMPTION AS AUTHORIZED BY THIS ARTICLE FOR THE REMAINDER OF HIS OR HER LIFE.
AS LONG AS HIS OR HER PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THE 20 YEARS OF SERVICE NEED NOT BE CONSECUTIVE IN ANOTHER PORTION.
UM, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY, UH, CHIEF DOWD AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHIEFS.
UM, IN REGARDS TO, UH, DISABLED VOLUNTEERS, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD THIS SECTION, ANY VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER OR VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE WORKER WHO RECEIVES THE EXEMPTION PROVIDED BY THIS ARTICLE WHO BECOMES DISABLED DUE TO THE EXERCISE OF HIS OR HER DUTIES AS SUCH FIREFIGHTER OR AMBULANCE WORKER.
AND WHO IS PREVENTED FROM BEING CERTIFIED AS AN ACTIVE SERVICE MEMBER, THEREFORE SHALL BE ENTITLED TO THE ANNUAL CERTIFICATION DURING THE PERIOD OF HIS OR HER DISABILITY, PROVIDED THAT PROPER DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN TIMELY SUPPLIED TO AND APPROVED BY THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
AND I DID ADD OFFICE OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY IN THERE JUST BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH MEDICAL RECORDS AND THERE, AND THERE COULD BE SOME CONCERNS THERE THAT I, I WANTED TO ENSURE ANY HIPAA RELATIONS OR ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, IT'S APPROPRIATE AND, AND IT'S LEGAL.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE AN ANNUAL EXEMPTION, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER EXEMPTION WE HAVE, YOU HAVE TO FILE BY MAY 1ST.
I, I DO WANNA CLARIFY BECAUSE THERE, LAST TIME THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING, WE DIDN'T TAKE OUT THE 20 YEAR, UM, PROVISION.
THE STATE CHANGED THE LAW AND THERE WAS AN AD OPTION.
WE JUST DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T, UM, ADD THAT OPTION BECAUSE FRANKLY WE DIDN'T SEE IT AND NOW WE'RE JUST CORRECTING THAT TO PUT IT BACK IN.
FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS NEVER A CONVERSATION BY THE TOWN BOARD TO SAY WE ARE VOLUNTARILY REMOVING THAT 20 YEAR LIFETIME EXEMPTION.
IT WAS INADVERTENT BASED ON THE CHANGE IN THE RAIL PROPERTY TAX LAW, AND WE'RE CLARIFYING THAT TODAY BEFORE THE NEXT TAXABLE STATUS DATE.
SO IT DOESN'T DO ANY HARM TO ANY OF OUR VOLUNTEERS.
I JUST WANT TO THANK JOE AND GE FOR INSTRUMENTAL AND, AND HEARING US AND, UH, WORKING WITH US TO GET THAT LAW UPDATED AND, UH, TO PUT THAT MEDICAL PROVISION, UH, IN THERE FOR ANY OF OUR MEMBERS THAT DO GET INJURED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
SO, UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY AND, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND HOPEFULLY PASSED.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, UH, TAKING THE TIME AND LISTENING TO US AND GETTING THIS CORRECTED.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, UH, TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING? WELL, YOU HAVE A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR, UH, SEVEN DAYS.
[ To consider a Consolidated Water District No. 1 Rules and Regulations Amendment]
IS TO CONSIDER A CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT NUMBER ONE RULES AND REGULATIONS AMENDMENT.WHO'S SPEAKING ON THAT? IS ANYONE ON ZOOM? I THOUGHT SOMEONE FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT WOULD BE HERE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO FOR IT.
SO, UM, IN, IN REVIEW OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT, STEVE, YOU'RE A LITTLE LOW.
UH, DEAR TERRANCE, CAN YOU TURN HIM UP OR, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE OUR STENOGRAPHER
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GETS A COMPLETE RECORD.IN, IN, IN, IN REVIEWING THE RULES, RIGHT, WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE OUTDATED OR THAT WE FELT WERE NO LONGER NEEDED.
UM, SO WE MADE A, A NUMBER OF CHANGES TO THEM, WHICH ARE, UM, IN THE DOCUMENTS.
SOME OF THEM REVERT TO, UM, METER TESTING, UH, SOME DEFINITIONS, UM, AND, AND CERTIFICATES OF COMPLIANCE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, SO WE MADE THOSE EDITS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE THINK, YOU KNOW, BRING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS UP TO DATE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO RUN THE, UH, THE ORDER AND SUE A DEPARTMENT PROPERLY.
UH, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ALSO TAKING THE FEES OUT OF THE DOCUMENT AND PUTTING THEM THAT THEY CAN BE CHANGED BY RESOLUTION WITHOUT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
ANYONE WANNA SPEAK ABOUT THE WATER RULES AND REGULATIONS? WE HAVE VERY EXCITING
I ASSUME THAT'S WHY YOU CAME OUT THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE WATER RULES AND REGULATIONS, RIGHT? PAUL, YOU HAVE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO, UH, CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
[ To consider a Local Law which would establish Accessory Dwelling Units in specified Zoning Districts, with related updates to Sections 250-19, 285-5, 285-10, 285-36, 285-38, 285-39 and 285-56 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh [TB 23-09] ]
NOW, UH, UH, THE FINAL HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW WHICH WOULD ESTABLISH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN SPECIFIED ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH RELATED UPDATES TO SECTION TWO 50 DASH 19 2 85 DASH 5 2 85 DASH TEN TWO EIGHTY FIVE THIRTY SIX, TWO EIGHTY FIVE, THIRTY EIGHT TWO EIGHTY FIVE THIRTY NINE TWO EIGHTY FIVE FIFTY SIX OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP THE HEARING.
GARRETT, DID WE LOSE HIM? HE WAS HERE MOMENTS AGO.
HE IS JUST ENJOYING THE LOBBY.
GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR, FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE RECORD.
GARRETT QUE AND COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
THIS CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATING IS RELATED TO A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH SEEKS TO REGULATE AND PERMIT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR ADUS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2025.
FOLLOWING THAT MEETING, THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS REVIEWED THE PUBLIC HEARING TRANSCRIPTS AND AT MULTIPLE TOWN BOARD WORK SESSIONS FURTHER DISCUSSED THE A DU LAW AND INSTRUCTED STAFF TO MAKE UPDATES THAT THE BOARD FELT WERE APPROPRIATE AND IS RESPONSIBLE, RESPONSIVE IS FEASIBLE.
THE LOCAL LAW POSTED IN SUPPORT OF THE HEARING, THIS HEARING THIS EVENING CONTAINS AN UPDATE THAT BROADENS THE ELIGIBILITY OF POTENTIAL AD USE TO APPROXIMATELY 20 ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES WITH A DETACHED GARAGE.
AND THAT'S BY VIRTUE OF LOWERING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT FROM 10,000 TO 7,500 SQUARE FEET.
AND THIS BUILDS ON A PRIOR UPDATE OF THE LOCAL LAW WHERE THE TOWN BOARD ALSO HAD THE LOT SIZE THRESHOLD LOWERED FOR ADUS WITHIN AN EXISTING HOME TO 7,500 SQUARE FEET WHERE NO EXPANSION IS PROPOSED.
THAT UPDATE BROUGHT THE ELIGIBILITY TO CLOSE TO 2000 ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES.
SO SIGNIFICANT TO RECAP OTHER CATEGORIES, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT IS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR AN A DU THAT IS IN AN EXPANSION OF, OF AN EXISTING HOME.
AND 20,000 SQUARE FEET IS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR A NEW DETACHED STRUCTURE.
A DO THE LOCAL LAW HAS ALSO BEEN UPDATED TO APPLY ZONING DISTRICT R 7.51 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT STANDARDS TO A DU PROPOSALS IN THE R FIVE DISTRICT.
IN REVIEWING THE NINE LOTS IN THE R FIVE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A DETACHED GARAGE WITH AT LEAST 7,500 SQUARE FEET, I NOTE THAT ALL NINE OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE AT LEAST 7,500 SQUARE FEET AND A WIDTH OF 75 FEET WITH A MAJORITY OF THE NINE CONTAINING LOTS WITH A HUNDRED FOOT LOT WIDTH.
SO THERE REALLY ARE 10 LIKE QUALITY LOTS.
THERE WAS ALSO CONCERN NOTED FOR EXISTING ACCESSORY GARAGES THAT DO NOT CONFORM TO SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND INQUIRIES ABOUT THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSIONS.
IF THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER CONCERNS, I NOTE THAT THE LOCAL LAW HAS A PROVISION REQUIRING A PLANNING BOARD WAIVER.
IN THOSE INSTANCES, THOSE TYPES OF A DU PROPOSALS WOULD NOT BE AS OF RIGHT IN THIS RESPECT.
SO THERE'S DISCRETION ON THE PLANNING BOARD IN THOSE INSTANCES.
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WHEN THE TOWN BOARD FIRST REFERRED TO LOCAL LAW ON SOME LEVEL, APPROXIMATELY 62% OF THE ONE FAMILY HOMES IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAD SOME LEVEL OF ELIGIBILITY.SOME OF THAT WAS THE FULL-BLOWN DETACHED ACCESSORY GARAGE BASED ON THE LARGER LOT SIZE OR THE OTHER FORMS BASED ON THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.
LOT SIZE OVER THE EVOLUTION OF THE PROCESS.
TOWN BOARD HAS LISTENED, DIRECTED CHANGES TO BE MADE.
AND WHERE WE'RE AT NOW IS WE'VE GONE FROM SOME LEVEL OF ELIGIBILITY OF 62% TO APPROXIMATELY 85% ELIGIBILITY.
SO, UM, IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT THAN A LOCAL LAW THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S BY VIRTUE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN RAISED.
IF APPROVED, THE LOCAL LAW HAS A SUNSET CLAUSE, WHICH MEANS THAT AFTER YEAR ONE, THE TOWN BOARD MUST REVIEW HOW THE LOCAL LAW HAS FUNCTIONED AND DETERMINE IF IT SHOULD BE CONTINUED AS IS OR TO BE UPDATED WITH IMPROVEMENTS OR EVEN DISCONTINUED.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS OR THE PUBLIC HAS.
SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE WAIVER PROVISION.
FOR OTHER THINGS, IN ORDER TO GET A WAIVER, IT'S USUALLY BASED ON THE, UH, POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF, YOUR, YOUR DEPARTMENT.
UM, DO YOU THINK THAT'S A WISE THING TO DO IN THIS SO THAT THERE IS PRECEDENT IN THE CODE? IT'S SOME PORTIONS OF THE CODE.
IT'S, UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
UH, SO FOR INSTANCE, SHARED PARKING REDUCTION.
UH, I BELIEVE, UH, LANDSCAPE WAIVERS WOULD BE JURISDICTION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THE WAIVER THAT I REFERENCED TONIGHT IS WITH RESPECT TO, UH, AN ACCESSORY GARAGE THAT DOESN'T MEET THE SETBACKS.
UM, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS THE DISCRETION TO MAKE THAT WAIVER.
UH, IF THE QUESTION IS FOR, UH, TOWN PLANNING STAFF TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT COULD, COULD ABSOLUTELY DO AND, UM, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF FACTORS WOULD, WOULD CONTRIBUTE.
SO LIKE JUST SOME EXAMPLES SAY A HOME, UH, A LOT WAS AT THE END OF A DEAD END STREET.
AND BEYOND THAT, THAT, UM, THAT LAST LOT THERE WAS, UH, WOODS AND IT WAS OPEN SPACE.
THERE WAS PERHAPS LIKE NEW YORK STATE, UH, LAND OR POWER LINES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THAT WOULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE A STAFF WE WOULD FEEL CONFIDENT TO, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND TO THE PLANNING BOARD THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, POTENTIALLY PRUDENT TO GRANT THAT WAIVER.
UM, I GUESS I WAS THE OTHER EXTREME TO THAT.
THE OTHER EXTREME EXAMPLE, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS WOULD BE, LET'S SAY A GARAGE WAS, UH, A FEW FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE WHERE IT SHOULD BE 10 FEET AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT ADJACENT TO THAT WAS AN EXISTING, UH, ONE FAMILY HOME THAT WAS PERHAPS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AS WELL.
I THINK IN THAT INSTANCE, THE JUDGMENT WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING BOARD USE EXTREME CAUTION AND, AND CONSIDERING A WAIVER THERE.
AND, UM, IN AN INSTANCE LIKE THAT, I THINK WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN IS A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE RESIDENT RIGHT AT THE APPLICATION PROCESS OR IN THE EXPLORATORY BEFORE THEY REALLY GET INTO, UH, THE APPLICATION.
UM, BUT IF, IF AN APPLICANT WAS ADAMANT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA GIVE IT A SHOT, THEN I, I A STAFF WOULD NOT FEEL CONFIDENT RECOMMENDING A WAIVER.
SO, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUITE A BIT IN BETWEEN, BUT I, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
THERE IS PRECEDENT IN THE CODE AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S A NON-COMPLEX CHANGE THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE LAW.
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC? UH, FIRST FOR
AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A FIVE MINUTE PUBLIC HEARING, SO THE CLOCK WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING.
THERE'S A CLOCK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROOM.
AND IF THE BOARD IS CLOSING TONIGHT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHERE THE BOARD LIES.
UM, THERE WILL BE A SECOND FIVE MINUTE ROUND AS WELL.
IF NOT, IF IT'S ADJOURNED, THERE WILL ONLY BE ONE FIVE MINUTE ROUND.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
I WILL POLITELY STOP YOU AT FIVE MINUTES JUST TO KEEP THIS MOVING ALONG.
GOOD EVENING, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN BENNER.
I'M A RESIDENT OF, UH, GREENBURG.
UM, I HAVE AN EXISTING GARAGE LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKYARD, WHICH MAKES A CONVERSION INTO AN A DU IMP PRACTICAL.
UM, UNDER THE CURRENT DRAFT, A NEW
MY LOT IS APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO RELOCATING THE STRUCTURE WOULD APPEAR, REQUIRE
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A VARIANCE.HOWEVER, THE GARAGE WHERE ALREADY IN A MORE TYPICAL LOCATION, I COULD CONVERT IT WITHOUT THE VARIANCE.
THIS CREATES AN UNINTENDED OUTCOME.
IT FAVORS A, UH, KEEPING A POORLY PLACED STRUCTURE RATHER THAN ALLOWING A RELOCATION THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE LAYOUT AND REDUCE IMPACT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAW, AS IT'S DRAFTED NOW, MAY BE REVISITED AFTER A YEAR, BUT IN PRACTICE, THIS MEANS THAT PROJECTS LIKE MINE WOULD BE DELAYED WITHOUT CERTAINTY OF RESOLUTION.
GIVEN THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE TOWN BOARD TO CONSIDER ADDRESSING EDGE CASES LIKE THIS NOW WHERE RELOCATION DOESN'T INCREASE INTENSITY, BUT RESULTS IN A MORE APPROPRIATE AND LESS INTRUSIVE SITE PLAN, THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE A SMALL PRACTICAL ADJUSTMENT THAT COULD AVOID UNNECESSARY VARIANCE APPLICATIONS WHILE LEADING TO BETTER PLANNING OUTCOMES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
I WOULD SUGGEST YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS TO COMMISSIONER DUQUE, AND MAYBE WE COULD LOOK INTO WHAT THE SITUATION IS ON THAT LOT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER.
NEXT WE HAVE FOR A DU BILL ISH GEN.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, MY NAME IS BILL GANS, MY WIFE ELLEN, AND I HAVE BEEN LONGTIME GREENBERG RESIDENTS.
I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP TONIGHT ON THE COMMENTS I MADE AT THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING AND THE LETTER THAT I HAD SENT TO PAUL FINER REGARDING OUR SON, WHICH HAS SPECIAL NEEDS, AND, UH, TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE OF SOMEHOW SOME WAY DOING AN A DU ON OUR PROPERTY.
UH, COMMISSIONER DEA AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE BY PHONE LAST WEEK.
UM, WE DO NEED TO DO, STILL DO A FOLLOW UP, BUT YOU HAD GOT GOTTEN CALLED TO A MEETING.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THE ABSOLUTE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE TO US IN TERMS OF FINDING A SAFE PLACE FOR OUR SON TO LIVE, UH, UNDER THE CURRENT, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, THERE'S VERY LITTLE, UH, RECOURSE THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE OF THE LOT SIZE AND THE LOCATION.
UM, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT MAY COME DOWN ON OUR PART TO SOME VERY CREATIVE THINKING TO RESOLVE THIS FOR OUR PERSONAL LEADS, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THE BOARD AND THE, AND THE COMMISSIONERS CAN KEEP AN OPEN MIND.
AND, UM, I REALIZED THAT IT'S NOT PRACTICAL TO COME UP WITH, UM, LAWS AND FOR EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE OUTCOME THAT COULD HAPPEN.
UH, SO I'M SEEING THESE AS GUIDELINES AND I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S SOME WAY TO, UM, HAVE SOME VARIANCE AND HAVE SOME EXCEPTIONS MADE TO THE RULES BASED ON INDIVIDUAL IN, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS OURS.
UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER ON IN OUR PHONE CONVERSATION, UH, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTION THAT WOULD WORK, THAT WOULDN'T, UM, VIOLATE THE REGULATIONS THAT IT CURRENTLY EXIST OR TO HAVE MAYBE ADD NEW REGULATIONS THAT IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
UM, SO THANKS AGAIN AND, UM, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH EVERYONE BY EMAIL ON THIS TOO.
I I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, I, UM, YOU KNOW, LISTENED TO YOUR COMMENTS AT THE LAST, YOU KNOW, MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE REFLECTED ON A LOT AND, YOU KNOW, SINCE, SINCE YOU SPOKE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT I THINK, UH, IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THE PROPOSED, UH, CODE CHANGES WOULD ENABLE YOU TO DO THAT.
BUT I DON'T WANNA WAIT, UH, A LONG PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE WE ADOPT THE CODE, UH, CHANGES.
AND I SUGGESTED IN THE PAST, AND I'M SUGGESTING IT AGAIN NOW, THAT, UM, THE, THE CODE THAT, THE PROPOSED CODE THAT, YOU KNOW, GAR CAIN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD, IF, UH, THERE'S A WAY WE COULD EXPEDITE, UH, THAT PORTION OF THE CODE THAT WOULD ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND, AND TAKE IT SORT OF OUT OF ORDER, THIS WAY WE COULD ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO AN A DU LAW AND WE COULD ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
BECAUSE TO ME, YOU HAVE A MAJOR QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERN AND IT IMPACTS YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
AND I WANT TO, I THINK THE TOWN HAS NOT, YOU KNOW, HELPING, YOU KNOW, THE A DU LAWS, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M DOING IT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR PEOPLE.
AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANYONE WHO HAS SPOKEN AT ANY HEARINGS BEFORE, OR ANY MATTERS ABOUT ADUS WHO MADE A CASE THAT YOU MADE ME LOST, LOSE SOME SLEEP AFTER I LISTENED TO YEARS, BECAUSE I'M, I'M REALLY TROUBLED BY IT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REALLY TROUBLED BY THIS IS, THIS MAY NOT BE A BIG PROBLEM TO THE TOWN, BUT IT'S A BIG PROBLEM TO YOU.
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AND I FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO HELP YOU, UH, UM, HELP YOUR CHILD.I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, AND I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE, GARRETT, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ALLOW US TO THINK OF CREATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT CAN BE THAT, THAT MAYBE CAN ACCOMMODATE WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE THAT WILL FALL WITHIN OUR BASIC CRITERIA.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT TALK.
I, IT HAS TO BE COLLABORATIVE.
WE CAN'T BE AGAINST EACH OTHER.
WE GOTTA BE ON THE SAME TEAM ON THIS, FOR SURE.
AND I REALIZE THERE'S GOTTA BE OTHER FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THE SAME POSITION AS OURS WHO MAY NOT EVEN THINK THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY FOR THEM.
AND I'D LIKE TO SOMEHOW MAKE SURE THAT WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TOO.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED THE LAST TIME YOU SPOKE, YOU, YOU HAVE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND IT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT REALISTIC TO HAVE A SECOND D WELDING ON A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, BUT WITH THE CODE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO LOOKING INTO, UH, IT MAY BE THAT BY EXPANDING YOUR EXISTING HOUSE, YOU CAN MAKE A SEPARATE AREA IN THAT HOUSE.
AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER TOO.
BUT CAN WE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE BASICALLY HAVE A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW AND PROPOSE IT NOW, UM, AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN WE COULD, IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER, UH, PASS IT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, PRETTY CLOSE TO WHEN WE'RE DOING THE ED, THERE'S NO REASON WHY I HAVE TO WAIT TILL, UH, NEXT THE END OF THE YEAR OR NEXT YEAR OR WHATEVER, SUPERVISOR.
FIRST, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TRYING, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
SO THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE AS WELL AS CREATING EXACTLY WHAT IS NEEDED.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEEN JUST NOTED, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK.
ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? YES.
THE NEXT SPEAKER FOR A DU IS WALTER SIMON.
UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.
FINALLY, AFTER ALMOST THREE YEARS, WE FINALLY GOT A A DU LAW ON THE, UH, THAT IS READY TO BE VOTED UPON.
IT IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT I ORIGINALLY HOPE IT WOULD BE, BUT IT IS A LAW AND WE FINALLY MAKING PROGRESS ON, ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC.
SO FOR THAT, UH, I, I APPRECIATE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LESS THAN WHAT I REALLY DESIRE, UH, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S A NEED TO GO TO THE 5,000 FEET, BUT WE HAVE A LAW ON THE BOOK.
THE OTHER THING I THINK I SUPPORT THE BISHOP, THE POSITION OF, UH, OF, UH, GARY DUANE IN THAT ALLOWING THE PLANNING BOARD TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS, I THINK IS QUITE APPROPRIATE.
BECAUSE ON THE PLANNING BOARD, WE DID, UH, PARKING VARIANCE AND WE, WE, THE, THE ORIGINAL LAW THAT YOU HAD TO OFFSET THE PARKING BY ANOTHER, UH, BUSINESS, SO YOU COULD OFFSET THAT.
BUT WE REALIZED A MORE PRACTICAL WAY IS TO LOOK AT THE TOTAL PARKING IN THE LOT, RECOGNIZING THAT THE TOWN HAD THE MOST RESTRICTIVE OVER PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF ANY TOWN, PROBABLY IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
SO WE TOOK A LOGICAL LOOK AT THAT AND SAID, WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS BUSINESS TO THRIVE IN OUR, UH, UM, SHOPPING CENTER AND STILL HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING? AND THE PLANNING BOARD HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, AND I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE CURRENT PLANNING BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME.
AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER GARRETT WHO GAVE, WHO GAVE US GOOD INFORMATION IN THE PAST WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT AGAIN.
SO I THINK THAT DISCRETION SHOULD REST STAY WITHIN THE PLANNING BOARD.
OH, SEEING HOW I HAVE A, THAT'S OKAY.
CAN I, SO YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES.
GOTTA MAKE AN APPOINTMENT ON ANO ON ANOTHER POINT.
NO, WE CANNOT BECAUSE IT'S DURING PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK AND, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PREVIOUS WORK TOPIC.
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THAT IF IT RELATES TO A DU LAWS, YOU CAN CONTINUE.UM, NEXT ON A DU, MR. WHO? HUGH SCHWARTZ, TOWN ATTORNEY AND EFFICIENCY EXPERT.
UM, I'M GLAD WE'VE GOTTEN HERE.
IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A LONG STRUGGLE AND I, I WON'T GO OVER, I DO ECHO, UM, WALTER'S VIEWS O OVER ALL AND WOULD'VE PREFERRED IT TO BE AT 5,000.
AND I URGE YOU TO CLOSE THE MEETING TONIGHT AND PASS THIS LAW AS IT IS.
UH, I DO WANNA KIND OF ADDRESS THIS SPECIAL NEEDS SITUATION.
MY SUGGESTION, THERE IS A VERY SIMPLE ONE.
UH, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE WHERE YOU'VE HAD, WE HAVE HARD, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED A HARDSHIP VARIANCE FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
NOW, HARDSHIP VARIS ARE VERY HARD TO GET.
OKAY? THIS SHOULDN'T BE EASY TO GET EITHER BECAUSE YOU'RE CHANGING SOMETHING.
BUT WHAT I WOULD DO SEPARATE, UH, PASS THIS AS IT IS AS SOON AS YOU CAN, OKAY? I WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF HARDSHIP AS KIND OF A SEPARATE PATH TO AN A DU, WHICH MAY HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
UH, FRANCIS, YOUR POINT ABOUT BUILDING OUT, UM, PEOPLE CAN DO THAT IN 7,500 SQUARE FEET.
HE CAN'T AT 6,000 DO THAT WITHOUT GOING FOR A VARI.
HE'D STILL BE UNDER 7,500 SQUARE FEET, EVEN IF HE BUILT HIS HOUSE OUT.
SO HE STILL WOULDN'T FIT UNDER THE LAW AS IT IS.
I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO THAT, THAT ARE CAN'T BUILD, CAN'T BUILD OUT UNDER THIS, BETWEEN 10 AND 75 OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO, THAT THEY'RE GONNA ADD TO THE HOUSE, THEN COME BACK FOR AN A DU.
I ALSO THINK THAT YOU CAN ALSO USE THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL AS THE ZONING BOARD.
'CAUSE THE ZONING BOARD'S JOB IS TO LOOK AT THINGS.
ZONING IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL THING.
UNFORTUNATELY, LORD KNOWS, THE THREE YEARS WE, YOU'VE TRIED, THE PUBLIC HAS TRIED TO MAKE THIS A ONE SIZE FIT, FITS ALL LAW THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE A ZONING BOARD, OKAY? THE PROCESS WOULD VERY BE SIMPLE.
WITH THE PLANNING BOARD BEING THE LEAD AGENCY ON THESE, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD ON THIS AND POSITIVE, NEGATIVE, OR NEUTRAL.
AND IT WOULD GO TO THE ZONING BOARD.
IN CERTAIN CASES WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE A VARIANCE, THESE ARE ALL AREA VARIANCES.
SO THE ZONING BOARD WOULD HAVE JURISDICTION THERE, BUT THIS, AND ANYBODY COULD DO THAT UNDER 7,500 SQUARE FEET.
SOMEBODY CAN COME UP WITH A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND SAY, YES, I WANT TO GO AHEAD.
AND GARRETT'S GONNA SAY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD.
I WOULD JUST SEPARATE OUT THE HARDSHIP CASES, GET GARRETT WHO DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF DEFINING THINGS.
I'M SORRY, I SHOULDN'T SAY PRETTY GOOD, UM, TO DEFINE WHAT A HARDSHIP WOULD BE AND COME UP WITH DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
ELLEN, YOU WANNA WORK ON THAT, UH, TO HELP FACILITATE THIS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE TWO BOARDS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE TWO BOARDS, IT IS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
I THINK THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE LAW.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GO FURTHER NEXT YEAR.
UH, BUT LET'S GET THIS THING PASSED TONIGHT.
NO ONE ELSE IS LISTED FOR, UM, ADU.
I DID WANNA NOTE THERE WAS AN EMAIL SENT IN, UH, TODAY.
UM, FOR THE RECORD IS RESIDENT ARTHUR KAHAN.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY READ YOU, WE DON'T READ IT.
WE JUST HAVE DATED FOR OR AGAINST NOTICE, UH, ADDRESS.
I, I, IF I CAN PULL IT UP QUICKLY.
IF NOT, I'LL I'LL, I'LL STAND DOWN.
ARTHUR KAHA, RESIDENT 21 RIDGE ROAD, UH, IN FAVOR.
HE WAS OPPOSED, OPPOSED TO, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN A REAR YARD.
MORE SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, THE OTHER FORMS. OKAY.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, HE DISAGREES WITH, UM, MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, BUT IN THE PAST WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, READ CONFLICTING, YOU KNOW, VIEWS AND, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL IF PEOPLE HAVE, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PO WHAT DOES THE BOARD WANT TO DO AS A POLICY? I READ THE EMAIL.
IT'S, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT HE SUMMARIZED EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID, SAID HE'S OPPOSED.
I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PUBLIC.
YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, IF SOMEBODY TAKES THE TIME TO, TO WRITE TO US WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH IT, WE SHOULD GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
I, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO READ IT.
UM, UNLESS THE BOARD BASICALLY WANTS TO SAY, GOING FORWARD, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS FOR ANYBODY
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WHO'S RULES.SO IT IS, IT IS PART OF THE RULES.
RULES, WRITTEN COMMENTS WILL NOT BE RIGHT AT THE MEETING UNLESS THE ORIGINAL AUTHORS PRESENT TO DO SO.
BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR IT WILL BE PART OF THE RECORD SINCE IT WAS SENT IN, IN A TIMELY MANNER.
EMAIL IT TO YOU ALL, CORRECT? YES.
WOULD YOU DO THAT, PLEASE? SO, I, I, I THINK WE, WE ARE HEARING THE SAME COMMENTS AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY AND, BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HAVE A SECOND ROUND TO TALK ABOUT ADUS TO TALK, BECAUSE WE ALL, WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD, BUT IF WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LEAVING THE RECORD OPEN, UH, WE HAVE TO GIVE A SECOND ROUND FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS IT IN FIVE MINUTES.
ANYONE WANT TO DO THAT? MR. BRENNER, YOU WERE FIRST.
SECOND PERSON WAS, UM, WELL THAT ANYBODY HAVE ANY INTERESTS OR, YEAH, I MEAN, THERE WEREN'T THAT MANY SPEAKERS.
WE COULD JUST
MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, SET IT UP FOR A DECISION ON APRIL 22ND AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXTENDED, UH, PERIOD TO WRITE THAT I'M NOT HERE.
AND I WANT TO BE HERE FOR THAT.
UM, WHAT'S THE MEETING AFTER THAT? WE DON'T THINK APRIL 8TH IS ENOUGH TIME.
I MEAN, WE'RE, I I COULD PREPARE, UH, UH, THE, THE DECISION AND, AND SEEKER BY APRIL 8TH.
UM, LET'S GO FOR APRIL 8TH IF WE CAN.
WHAT'S THAT? LET'S GO FOR APRIL 8TH IF WE CAN, RIGHT? YEAH, LET'S DO APRIL 8TH.
OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE MAY IN, IN LIGHT OF, UM, YEAH, I WAS, I WAS THINKING OF LEAVING THE RECORD OPEN SO WE COULD HEAR SOME OF THESE COMMENTS.
LIKE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA GIVE YOU AN ADDRESS.
SO IT'S WHATEVER THE BOARD PREFERS.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE IT OPEN ON PAPER.
IS THERE, I MEAN, IS THERE A SPECIAL MEETING THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE TWO REGULAR MEETINGS? I THINK, I THINK YOU SUPPORT THE LOCAL LAW.
YOU WANNA BE THERE TO APPROVE IT, YOU'RE SAYING
BUT THE NEXT MEETING ISN'T UNTIL MAY 13TH, SO WE CAN DO IT APRIL 8TH.
SO WHY DON'T WE DO MAY 13TH? YEAH, I DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL MAY 13.
IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING IS, IS GONNA HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN ANYWAY.
WHY I CAN'T SUGGEST WE DO IS WHY CAN'T THROUGH APRIL 8TH THOUGH? I'M JUST, WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO IS WE CREATE THE FORMS AND EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT YET, SO THAT WE HAVE THEM ALL BEFORE US TO APPROVE AT THE SAME TIME, OR THAT'S THE NEXT STEP AFTER WE PASS THE LAW THOUGH.
I MEAN, THAT, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S A MINISTERIAL THING.
WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON, UH, ON APRIL 14TH IF YOU WANTED.
AND THEN GIVE YOU AN EXTRA WEEK.
YEAH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN GINA'S GONNA BE HERE EITHER.
WHAT? WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE, WELL, WE HAVE TO ADJOURN IT TO SOMETHING.
UM, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE EIGHTH THOUGH? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
IS THAT A PROBLEM FOR, WHY DO YOU SAY APRIL 8TH? IS THAT A YOU NEED MORE TIME? YOU HAVE MORE TIME? DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM FOR, IF THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU, I UNDERSTAND.
IS THAT A PROBLEM FOR YOU? THAT'S A CONCERN.
UM, THERE IS VALIDITY TO CREATING, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICATION MATERIALS AND UPDATING OUR WEBSITE.
UM, THAT HAPPENS AFTER WE PASS THE LAW.
ALSO, IF YOU HAVE TO SLEEP AT THE TOWN HALL, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
UM, WE GONNA VOTE ON IT OR WHAT? WHY DON'T WE SAY APRIL 8TH? AND IF YOU FIND THAT IT'S ON APRIL 7TH THAT YOU STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT, THEN WE COULD ALWAYS ADJOURN IT TO UH, UH, THE MEETING WHEN EVERYBODY'S HERE.
BUT YOU'RE CHOOSING WHEN THE RECORD WILL BE CLOSING AS WELL.
AND TYPICALLY THAT'S DAYS BEFORE.
SO IT'S NOT GIVING PEOPLE TIME.
KEEP PEOPLE TIME FOR WELL, WE'VE REALLY HEARD FROM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INTERESTED, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE YEARS OF HEARINGS AND THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WOULD BE READY TO CLOSE IT AND JUST MOVE ON.
YOU, YOU COULD CLOSE IT APRIL 6TH, WHICH IS THE MONDAY, AND MAYBE BY THAT MONDAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ISSUE OCCURRING AND THEN YOU COULD, UM, REOPEN IT AT THE WORK SESSION THE VERY NEXT DAY, PERHAPS IF WE NEED IT.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, GARRETT? SURE.
ALRIGHT THEN WHEN DON'T WE DO THAT MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL APRIL 6TH.
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NOW WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING? UH, HOLD ON PLEASE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE MR. CLIFTON ABRAMS A CHANCE BECAUSE HE HAD ACTUALLY SIGNED UP FOR THE TWO MINUTE.
SO I AM GOING TO JUMP YOU TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
DOES THAT LIE? WE HAVE TO TWO MINUTES AT THIS POINT.
MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THE FIVE MINUTES.
YOU SIGNED UP FOR TWO, RIGHT? THEN YOU CAN GET FIVE.
SO I'M GIVING YOU THE FIRST BEFORE EVERYBODY ELSE SPEAKS AT FIVE, RIGHT? FINE.
IT WAS A GOOD ATTEMPT THOUGH, AND I WAS TRYING TO KEEP YOU TO TWO, BUT IT DIDN'T.
UM, I THINK ABOUT THE LAST BOARD MEETING I ASKED ABOUT THE, UM, ISO THAT'S ON FAIRVIEW IN THE FAIRVIEW GREEN BAY AREA UNDER THE MANHATTAN AVENUE BRIDGE.
UM, A STAFF, A PLATFORM IS TEMPORARY.
UM, THIS SUMMER WILL MAKE FOUR YEARS THAT HAS BEEN UP.
AND I ASKED WHY CAN'T WE JUST TAKE IT DOWN AND THEN DECIDE WHATEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND SINCE JOY, YOU ARE OUR LIAISON FOR FAIRVIEW.
I'M ASKING YOU, CAN YOU FOLLOW THROUGH AND GIVE SOME FEEDBACK WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT? YOU KNOW? UM, 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE WHERE THE PROBLEM'S AT.
I, I DON'T KNOW CLIFF'S A LEGAL ISSUE, WHICH I HAVE TO FIND OUT.
I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE PASSED THAT STAGE.
THE LEGAL PART, JOE, I, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, BUT CAN WE, CAN WE STOP THAT ON THAT? NO, WE CAN'T.
IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE, YOU CAN CALL ME AND WE CAN GO OVER THIS AS WELL OUTSIDE OF, UH, PUBLIC FORUM.
SO, UM, CLA WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL PART IS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? MM-HMM
WE MADE A DECISION, YOU KNOW, UM, MR. FINALLY YOU HAD HAD NO PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD RIGHT ALONG AFTER WE MADE A LITTLE TWEAKS IN HERE AND THERE, YOU KNOW, IN WHICH SINCE I WAS THE, UM, VISIONARY OF IT, I SAID, NO PROBLEM.
I'M, I'M WILLING TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS.
BUT AS FAR AS HAVING THIS PLATFORM, IT'S A HAZARD TOO.
BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD EASILY WALK UP THE STAIRS, THEY COULD DAMAGE IT, THEY COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS.
THEY COULD BE UP THERE, A KID COULD FALL, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, JOY, YOU COULD PROBABLY LET ME KNOW, UM, MS. EVERETT, ABOUT WHAT IT IS.
UM, NEXT, UM, Y'ALL THREW ME OFF 'CAUSE I WASN'T READY FOR THIS, BUT, UM, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH ALL THIS TIME? NO, I, I, I KNOW HOW TO WORK IT JUST TO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST STILL CONFUSED WHY IT'S STILL ILLEGAL LEGAL, UM, PROBLEM TO IT, YOU KNOW? SO I, I WAS STUCK ON THAT.
I CAME UP HERE NOT THINKING IT WAS BE, IT'S BECAUSE THERE IS A CONTRACT WITH A PERSON WHO IS NOT CURRENTLY HERE TODAY.
AND THAT HAS ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED.
ALRIGHT? SO I NEED THAT PERSON WITH THE CONTRACT TO WHO LIVE IN ALBANY TO COME.
I, I HAVE OFFERED TO GO TO ALBANY.
DID ACTUALLY OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
I BELIEVE I OFFERED TO GO THERE PERSONALLY TO TRY TO HAVE THIS RESOLVED.
OKAY, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
YOU TOOK ME OFF GUARD, BUT THANK YOU.
SO YOU'RE GLAD YOU DIDN'T GIVE THE TWO MINUTES.
ALL MINES, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE, SO I MISSED A FEW MEETINGS.
I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I CAME HERE, Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT FIVE MEMBERS INSTEAD OF SEVEN.
SO IT WENT TO FIVE, BUT IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TEMPORARY AND THE PLAN IS TO GO BACK TO SEVEN.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TEMPORARY MEAN? SEVEN.
THE REDUCTION FROM SEVEN TO FIVE.
WELL, THE PLAN IS TO GO A YEAR, SIX MONTHS.
I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT AIMING FOR THIS SUMMER IS AIM FOR.
OKAY, BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT,
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YOU KNOW, AND, UM, WHEN THERE'S SEVEN PEOPLE, IT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR A PERSON TO GET SOMETHING PASSED WHEN IT'S FIVE YOU IT IS, IT IS THREE PEOPLE.YOU KNOW, IT IS THE PERSON WHO, THE CHAIRPERSON, HE GET TWO PEOPLE THAT HE CHOOSE OR AGREE WITH 'EM AND THEY COULD PASS A LOT OF THINGS.
AND THE PLANNER BOARD DEALS WITH ENVIRONMENTAL, IT DEALS WITH, UM, SAFETY DEALS WITH A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
AND I'M FROM FAIRVIEW, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE HIS MINDSET IS AT WHEN IT COMES TO THE FAIRVIEW AREA BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T REALLY DON'T KNOW HIM BY SELMA ALIVE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE COFFEE.
AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT, UM, THAT HIS THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ABOUT FAIRVIEW TOO MM-HMM
BECAUSE IF FIVE PEOPLE, I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE, THERE SHOULD BE SOMEBODY ON SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE TO, TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS AND WHAT THEY FEEL THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
HE'LL, HE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.
UH, SUPERVISOR, FIND OUR MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.
WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET DECISIONS, THE SUPERVISOR PROPOSE AND THE TOWN BOARD DISPOSE WHERE THE SUPERVISOR, WHERE THE SUPERVISOR PROPOSE A BUDGET AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.
IT IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOWN BOARD TO APPROVE A BUDGET AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.
ALTHOUGH THE SUPERVISOR VOTES ON THE BUDGET, HE OR SHE CANNOT VETO OR MODIFY A BUDGET WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE TOWN BOARD.
IN PRACTICAL TERMS, ANY THREE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD CAN MODIFY AND APPROVE A BUDGET AND MAKE SUBSEQUENT BUDGET TRANSFERS WITH OR WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR.
THE BUDGET AND BUDGET TRANSFERS ARE ACTS OF THE TOWN BOARD AND HAS TOTAL CONTROL AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT ACTION.
IT IS INACCURATE AND DISINGENUOUS FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL TO IMPLY THAT THE USE OF THE $32 MILLION INTENDED FOR A NEW POLICE STATION, BUT USE THE OFFSET TAX INCREASES WAS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SUPERVISOR.
IT WAS, AND IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOWN BOARD TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.
ALL MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT $32 MILLION TRANSFER OF FUNDS.
THE TOWN BOARD HAS THE RIGHT AND INDEED THE OBLIGATION TO DISAGREE WITH THE SUPERVISOR ON ISSUES FEEL IT FEELS THAT ARE NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN OR ITS RESIDENTS.
HOWEVER, OBJECTIVE STANDARDS SHOULD BE APPLIED WHEN MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
I, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, IS FAR FROM BEING PERFECT, BUT PRIDE MYSELF IN THE ABILITY TO SEPARATE PERSONALITIES FROM FACTS.
I STRIVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE MERIT OF THE ARGUMENT RATHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL PRESENTING IT.
I'M DEEPLY DISMAYED THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAVE NOT ACQUIRED A DEMONSTRATED ABILITY TO DO ACT.
I DO WANNA SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THE BEGINNING OF YOUR SENTENCE THAT THE TOWN BOARD VOTES ON THE BUDGETS AND THEN NOBODY CAN MOVE THAT MONEY WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THREE BOARD MEMBERS.
WE HAVE VOTED, WE VOTED ON A BUDGET THAT DEDICATED $39.4 MILLION TO THE COURTHOUSE.
AND WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT WAS NOT DONE.
AND I WOULD LIKE, WAIT, NO, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY EXPLAINS CLEARLY MAYBE TO RESIDENTS WHAT THAT MEANS.
IN PRACTICAL TERMS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PERIOD OF TIME FROM 2019 UNTIL LAST YEAR.
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YEAR, THERE'S A LINE THAT SAYS RESERVE FOR THE COURTHOUSE.WE, I WASN'T ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME WHEN THIS HAPPENED, BUT WHEN A TOWN COUNCIL OR TOWN BOARD MEMBERS LOOKING AT THAT BUDGET AND THEY SEE RESERVE FOR THE COURTHOUSE, THAT'S WHAT THEY VOTE ON.
WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE FACT IS A MYSTERY BECAUSE IT WASN'T RESERVED.
AND IN, IN FACT, THE LEGAL TERM HAS TO BE RESTRICTED.
I JUST LEARNED THIS ALL THIS YEAR.
I, I, WHATEVER, I'M NOT GOING.
THE RESTRICTING THE RESTRICTION WAS NEVER DONE, BUT THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO VOTED WAS, UH, VOTED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT IT WOULD BE DONE.
OKAY? AND THEN SOMEHOW AFTER THAT, THE MONEY WAS THEN REALLOCATED.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT HAPPENED, BUT THIS IS REALLY, THIS IS THE PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE ONE YEAR, 32, 30 $2 MILLION SUDDENLY WENT FROM A FUND INTO ANOTHER FUND.
AND LIKE, OF COURSE, HOW WOULD YOU MISS THAT? BUT THIS IS OVER TIME, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT HAPPENED PERSONALLY.
I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT HAPPENED.
UH, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE MECHANICS OF HOW IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
BUT THERE WERE NO THREE VOTES TO ACTUALLY MOVE THAT FROM COURTHOUSE TO ANYTHING ELSE.
OKAY? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW I DISAGREE.
NEW YORK STATE LAW REQUIRES THE BOARD, IF THEY WANT TO DESIGNATE, DE DEDICATE A FUND FOR A COURTHOUSE OR RESTRICTED, UH, USE TO PASS A RESOLUTION.
THE BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION, ONLY ONE RESOLUTION.
IT WAS OVER $7 MILLION OF FOR, UM, THE COURTHOUSE.
THAT MONEY STILL IS RESERVED FOR THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE THE BOARD DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO.
THEY BASICALLY PASSED A RESOLUTION.
UM, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD.
AND THE MONEY, UM, IS RESTRICTED.
UH, EVERYONE ON THE BOARD KNOWS THE LAW AND KNEW THE LAW BECAUSE WE PASSED A RESOLUTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE A COPY OF THE, THE ONE RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, SAYING $7.7 MILLION PLUS, UH, IS RESERVED.
THE BOARD NEVER CHOSE TO RESERVE ANY OTHER, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR ANY OTHER USE.
SO THE, WHEN THE BOARD APPROVED, UM, THE RESO, UH, APPROVED, UM, USING SOME OF THE MONEY, UM, TO REDUCE THE TAXES, UM, BECAUSE BASICALLY THE MONEY DIDN'T TO HAVE THE MONEY.
LEMME SAY, I'M NOT GONNA INTERRUPT YOU.
YOU COULD, YOU COULD, UH, SPEAK AFTER WHEN THE BOARD BASICALLY DECIDED TO, UM, UH, USE THE MONEY TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE BECAUSE WE ALL VOTED AND WE ALL WERE PROUD TO REDUCE THE TAX, THE TAX RATE, THERE WAS A TAX RATE DECREASE FOR, YOU KNOW, A A COUPLE YEARS, UM, THAT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
NOBODY ON THE BOARD, UM, OBJECTED TO, UH, TO THE FACT THAT WE WERE REDUCING THE TAX RATE.
IN FACT, WE WERE ALL TAKING CREDIT FOR IT AND WE WERE COMPLIMENTING EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR HELP.
SO EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND, UM, EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD VOTED FOR THE BUDGET.
AND I REALLY CAN'T STAND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE POINTING FINGERS AND BLAMING, UH, BLAMING ME, UH, WHEN EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD HAD EQUAL AUTHORITY.
FRANCIS, YOU'RE THE LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME ANALYZING EVERY ASPECT OF THE BUDGET.
SO YOU KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND, AND THE THING IS FOR YOU TO NOW RIGHT, TO THE STATE CONTROLLER AND TELL US, UM, TELL THE CONTROLLER TO INVESTIGATE THE TOWN FINANCES.
IF YOU THINK THE TOWN'S MISMANAGED, THEN YOU SHOULD RESIGN.
I THINK THE TOWN IS WELL MANAGED.
NO, I, I THINK THE TOWN IS WELL-MANAGED AND I THINK THAT, AND I'M PROUD OF EVERY DECISION I'VE MADE.
AND I, I BELIEVE, UH, DURING THE PERIOD OF COVID WHEN WE DECIDED TO USE, UH, SOME MONEY TO REDUCE THE TAX, UM, IN A RATE, UM, WHEN PEOPLE WERE SUFFERING AND STRUGGLING AND PEOPLE WERE ISOLATED IN THEIR HOMES OR OUT OF JOBS, I WOULD'VE DONE THE SAME THING.
I DON'T, AND I, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T WANNA SEE OVER $30 MILLION LYING IN AN ACCOUNT FOR YEARS AND YEARS WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN FOR, UM, FOR THE COURT, FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND POLICE.
SO THE THING IS, THIS IS NOT MY MONEY.
UM, UM, IT'S THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME RENTERS ON THE TOWN BOARD.
SO THE THING IS, IF, IF, AND SO MY FAILING IS THE PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TAXES.
UM, UM, BUT YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION ALONE.
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ON THE BOARD.SO THE THING IS, YOU, NO, YOU ARE FREE.
YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT BEING BLAMED FOR THAT.
BUT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, UM, HAS TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IF, UH, IF YOU WANT THE STATE CONTROLLER, UH, TO REVIEW THE TOWN AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DAMAGE THE TOWN'S REPUTATION, UM, AND MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL THAT THIS IS A HORRIBLE TOWN, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY.
I, I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE TOWN STAFF, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
I BELIEVE THE TOWN IS WELL MANAGED.
I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE LOVE THE SERVICES OF THE TOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANYTHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN, WHEN WE GET, AND WHEN WE DO FORENSIC REPORTS OR DO ANALYSIS AS AS WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA LEARN FROM, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE ARE TAKING CORRECTIVE ACTION STEPS.
UM, YESTERDAY, UM, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE FORECLOSURES, UH, WE HAD, UM, OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL INDICATING THE STEPS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING AN AUCTION.
UH, I THINK THREE AUCTIONS THIS YEAR FOR THE FORECLOSED PROPERTIES WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING STEPS ON THAT.
RICH F SPOKE ABOUT THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
UH, HE'S CORRECTING, UH, ALL THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WATER, UH, UH, UH, RELATED ISSUES THAT WE'RE IN, UM, IN THE REPORT WE'RE ADDRESSING.
YOU KNOW, BY TIME, UM, WE'RE DONE, UH, THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED IN THE FORENSIC REPORT WILL BE ADDRESSED.
TOWN WILL BE BETTER RUN, UM, YOU KNOW, BE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THIS.
SO AGAIN, I'M VERY PROUD OF THE D WELL, OF THE DECISIONS I'VE MADE, WE'RE GONNA WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE GREENBERG THE BEST PLACE POSSIBLE.
AND WE'LL LEARN FROM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO, EVERY, ANYBODY WHO HIRES A FORENSIC, UH, ACCOUNTANT KNOWS THAT THEIR JOB IS TO FIND MISTAKES AND THEY, THEY, YEAH.
NOT MISTAKES ARE FIND, FIND ISSUES THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED.
SO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HIRED A FORENSIC AUDIT THAT CAME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THEIR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH A CONTROLLER TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THE TOWN IS MANAGED IN THE MOST FISCALLY PRUDENT MANNER.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD AAA BOND RATING, UM, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S BEEN UPGRADED THREE TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN TOWN SUPERVISOR.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA INTERRUPT ME, RIGHT? I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU.
SO IT IS, BUT OH, YOU'D HAVE NO OBJECTION TO HIM RESPONDING TO YOU.
YOU ARE THE ONE, YOU'RE THE ONE, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT STARTED.
EVERYONE WILL GET THEIR CHANCE TO SPEAK.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED, 'CAUSE THE SUPERVISOR KEEPS REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE FOR ANYONE TO READ.
IT WENT OUT ON THE GB LIST TODAY OF THE STATEMENTS THAT THE SUPERVISOR IS MAKING AND OUR RESPONSES TO THEM, AND EVERYONE CAN READ IT.
WHAT THE SUPERVISOR IS TALKING ABOUT IS THERE'S ONE RESOLUTION AND WE ADDRESS THIS 'CAUSE HE THINKS, OH, THIS IS A GOTCHA FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THAT ONE RESOLUTION IN 2023 TO RESERVE THE $7.4 MILLION FOR THAT ONE YEAR, TELLS ME THE SUPERVISOR, UH, KNEW THAT YOU NEEDED A RESOLUTION TO PROTECT THE MONEY.
HE DID NOT PUT FORWARD A RESOLUTION IN 2020 FOR $7 MILLION.
HE DID NOT PUT FORWARD A RESOLUTION IN 2021 FOR 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH THE, THE BUDGET SAYS RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE.
HE DID NOT PUT FORWARD A RESOLUTION.
HE'S THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
WE'RE NOT EXPECTED TO KNOW THIS.
HE'S THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
HE DID NOT PUT FORWARD A, YOU LAUGH AT THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T THINK HE'S CAPABLE.
HE DID NOT PUT FORWARD A RESOLUTION FOR 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, EVEN THOUGH THE BUDGET SAID RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE.
SO WE ADMIT WE VOTED FOR THE BUDGET AND FOUR YEARS IN A ROW, THE BUDGET SAID RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE.
AND IT HAD AN AMOUNT THAT TOTAL $39.4 MILLION.
AND JUST SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING ENDING IN OUR TRANSMITTAL LETTER, WHICH THE FIRST TIME EVER WE'VE INCLUDED TOWN COUNCIL HAS INCLUDED A LETTER IN THE ACTUAL ADOPTED BUDGET.
READ IT AND WE SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE COURTHOUSE MONEY.
AND IF PAUL IS SAYING, OH, WE DIDN'T REALLY WANNA SAVE IT, THEN WE DIDN'T QUOTE HIM, WE PUT INTO OUR TRANSMITTAL LETTER, IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, A SCAN OF HIS BUDGET MESSAGE AND HIS BUDGET MESSAGE FOR 2019
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IS COURTHOUSE BIG LETTERS.FOR MANY YEARS, WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE NEED FOR A NEW COURTHOUSE AND POLICE STATION TO REPLACE BOTH AGING AND INADEQUATE BUILDINGS.
WE WILL SELL OUR EXISTING BUILDINGS, PLACE THE PROPERTIES ON THE TAX ROLL.
WE HAVE BEEN SAVING FUNDS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO REDUCE BARRING COSTS.
A THE 2019 BUDGET INCLUDES 7 MILLION FROM OUR FUND BALANCE THAT'LL BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
WE ARE THE BEGINNING STAGES AND WILL KEEP RESIDENTS IN INFORMED DID HE RESERVE THAT MONEY? BY THE WAY, 2019 WASN'T COVID.
HE'S TRYING TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, I DID THIS TO BRING DOWN THE TAX RATES DURING COVID 2019 WAS NOT COVID IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THERE'S A SCAN OF HIS BUDGET MESSAGE.
SO IF WE WERE MISLED INTO THINKING HE'S ACTUALLY RESERVING IT AND BUILDING UP THIS KITTY FOR DOING THE COURTHOUSE, IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT HE WROTE IN THE BUDGET.
AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT OF THIS GOVERNMENT COURTHOUSE POLICE STATION WILL HAVE SET ASIDE NOW 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO REDUCE BARRING COSTS AND ENABLE THE TOWN TO IMPLEMENT NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS AND TO STAY UNDER THE NEW YORK STATE TAX CAP.
SO WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT HERE IS LET'S BUILD UP FUNDS FOR THE COURTHOUSE SO THAT WHAT WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO BUILD IT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HIT YOU WITH ENORMOUS BOND AND TAX INCREASES, WHICH WAS A GOOD THING, BUT HE THINKS THERE'S A RESOLUTION NEEDED.
I'M NOT SO SURE HE THINKS THERE'S A RESOLUTION NEEDED AT THE VERY END TO ACTUALLY TAKE IT FROM RESERVE FROM COURTHOUSE AND RESTRICT IT.
HE DIDN'T PUT THROUGH THAT RESOLUTION THAT YEAR.
HE DIDN'T DO IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR EITHER.
AND IF HE INTENDED, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM, IF HE INTENDED THAT MONEY NOT TO BE USED FOR THE COURTHOUSE, WHY DID HE KEEP PUTTING IT INTO HIS BUDGET RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE? THE ONLY REASON HE WOULD PUT RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE FOUR YEARS IN A ROW AND NOT RESTRICT ANY EXCEPT FOR THE LAST 7.4 MILLION IS IF HE HAD NO INTENTION TO RESERVE IT.
WELL, WE KNOW HE HAD NO INTENTION TO RESERVE IT.
THE FACT THAT HE DIDN'T PUT IT THROUGH A RESOLUTION IN 20 20, 21 AND 22 AND ONLY IN 23 TO RESTRICT $7.4 MILLION TELLS US HE HAD NO INTENTION OF RESERVING THAT.
BUT IF HE HAD NO INTENTION OF RESERVING IT, WHY DID HE JUST PUT A LINE IN THE BUDGET? LET'S BUILD UP OUR FUND BALANCE INSTEAD OF RESERVE FOR COURTHOUSE.
AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING.
AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT I URGE YOU TO GO ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, LOOK AT WHAT WE SENT TO THE TOWN, THE NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER.
IT'S NOT, I THINK YOU KNEW, IT'S, WE DOCUMENT EVERYTHING BASED ON THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS OF THE TOWN.
THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE $39.4 MILLION RESERVED FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
WE HAD THE ARCHITECT HERE YESTERDAY.
THE SUPERVISOR TRIED AS HARD AS HE POSSIBLY COULD TO GET THAT OFF THE AGENDA, TALKING ABOUT A PLAN FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
AND EVEN AT THAT MEETING, HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK SOMEPLACE ELSE.
AND NOW I KNOW WHY IN 2020 WHEN WE HAD A SITE STUDY LOOKING AT 50 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, POTENTIAL PROPERTIES FOR THE COURTHOUSE, ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, PAUL IS DELAYED, DELAYED DELAY.
NOW I KNOW WHY IS BECAUSE THE MONEY WASN'T THERE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE COURTHOUSE OR EVEN DO THE KITTY FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
AND SO NOW HE'S TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WE'LL BOND OUR NEW CONTROLLER, WHO'S THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS TO LIGHT, QUITE FRANKLY, SAID, IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE TO ASK TAXPAYER TO PAY $39 MILLION FOR A COURTHOUSE THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR.
AND SO WE HAVE A SERIOUS FINANCIAL PROBLEM HERE, AND THIS IS JUST THE, A BUDGET WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO DISCUSS THE B BUDGET, WHICH IS IN SUCH A DISASTER SITUATION THAT THE POTENTIAL FOR HIGH TAX RATES GOING FORWARD ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY WORKING WITH OUR CONTROLLER WITHOUT HARASSING HER, WITHOUT CREATING A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT TO WORK WITH HER AND HAVE HER COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'LL HELP US FINANCIALLY.
BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON THE TOWN COUNCIL, WE DOCUMENT AND WE'RE USING YOUR OWN WORDS SCANNED.
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THAT WE WERE GONNA BE BUILDING THIS UP YEAR TWO AND YEAR THREE, AND YOU DIDN'T MEAN THAT, WHY DID YOU WRITE IT IN THE BUDGET MESSAGE AND BASICALLY DECEIVE THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC INTO THINKING WE WERE ACTUALLY SAVING IT FOR THE COURTHOUSE.LASTLY, HE TALKS ABOUT WE HAVE AAA BOND RATING.
AAA BOND RATING IS GREAT, BUT IT'S BASED ON THE ANNUAL AUDITS.
AND IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, WE EXPLAIN ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S UP THERE TODAY.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, FIRST OF ALL, THE TOWN BOARD, TOWN SUPERVISOR, TOWN COUNCIL, WE EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FORENSIC AUDIT AND AN ANNUAL AUDIT.
AN ANNUAL AUDIT IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.
THEY COME IN, THEY TAKE A SNAPSHOT, THEY DO SAMPLING, THEY TAKE, YOU KNOW, SELECT RANDOM SAMPLES.
AND IF THOSE HAPPEN TO BE FINE AND THEY BALANCE, THAT'S GREAT.
WHAT THEY DON'T LOOK FOR IS DID MONEY GET SHIFTED INTO PARTICULAR ACCOUNTS TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD? THAT'S WHAT THE FORENSIC AUDIT DID.
AND THEY FOUND PLUGS, A PLUG IS A REALLY BAD WORD, WHERE HE WAS TAKING FUND BALANCE THIS, THIS WONDERFUL FUND BALANCE WHERE WE SAW WE HAD PLENTY OF FUN BALANCE.
AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN SI WE'RE PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS, WE'RE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALMOST EVERY VEHICLE IS BRAND NEW THINKING THAT THE FUND BALANCE IS REALLY GOOD.
AND MEANWHILE IT'S REALLY ROBBING THE COURTHOUSE IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS, THIS, UH, THIS FUND BALANCE.
BUT WITH THIS, WITH THIS FUND BALANCE, WE NOW HAVE A PROBLEM.
THE TOWN ASSESSOR, THE NEW TOWN ASSESSOR, I MEAN, UH, CONTROLLER, CONTROLLER ESTIMATES THAT THROUGH THIS MISMANAGEMENT OF MONIES, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS NOT IN OUR COFFERS.
SOME OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF UNCOLLECTED TAXES, $30 MILLION IN UNCOLLECTED TAXES, SOME OF THAT, WHICH IS NOW GETTING RECTIFIED.
SO WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN.
AND PAUL LIKES TO TOUT, HEY, WE HAVE A COLLECTION ACT, UH, CORRECTION ACTION PLAN, SO THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE AUCTIONS ON FORECLOSED PROPERTIES THAT GO BACK TO 2014.
AND FROM 2014 WE HAVE TO NOW TRY TO COLLECT THE PEOPLE THAT CAME AND THANK THANKS TO OUR TOWN ATTORNEY WHO FIRED THE PERSON PAUL HAD DOING OUR OUR FORECLOSURE WORK.
WE HAVE 30 THOU, $30 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING, UM, UM, PROPERTY TAXES, BUT THE PERSON WAS PAID $498,000 AND TO GET $30 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING PROPERTY TAXES, THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN'T JUST DISMISS WHAT'S IN THAT FORENSIC REPORT.
IF WE WANT TO GET OURSELVES OUT OF THIS FINANCIAL HOLE, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR STAFF, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR CONTROLLER WITHOUT HARASSING HER, WITHOUT THREATENING HER, WITHOUT CREATING A WORK HOSTILE WORKING ENVIRONMENT.
YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY WITHOUT AGGRESSIVELY SAYING, YOU MUST KEEP THIS PERSON THAT YOU HAD.
AND HE, HE GAVE THE PERSON A YEAR AND THEN HE FIRED, FIRED THAT PERSON FOR, FOR, UH, FOR NON-PERFORMANCE.
AND HE BROUGHT IN THIS LAW, THIS LAW FIRM WHO'S NOW GONNA DO THREE AUDITS.
THAT'S HOW WE FI FIX THE PROBLEM IS WORKING WITH OUR STAFF.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S MORE, BUT I'LL LET YOU READ WHAT WE PUT UP ON THE WEBSITE.
FIRST READ OUR SUBMITTAL TO THE TOWN OF, TO THE, UH, NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER.
IN THERE WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE DISCOVERED A SLUSH FUND.
IN THERE WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE SUPERVISOR FOR MANY YEARS, DECADES, AND HE'S PRAC, IS ACTUALLY FR PROUD OF IT.
HE HAD SANITATION CREWS GO OUT AND PLOW PRIVATE ROADS.
AND NOW THAT THEY'VE PLOWED IT FOR 10 YEARS OR MORE, HIGHWAY BY USE KICKS IN.
AND NOW ALL OF US ARE PAYING FOR THOSE PRIVATE ROADS TO BE REPAVED PLOWED EVERY YEAR.
HIS GENEROSITY IS EXTREMELY PLE, UH, EXPENSIVE TO THE TAXPAYERS AND THERE'S NO WAY
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OUT.AND WE HAVE THIR 15 ROADS SO FAR THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
AND IN EVERY ONE OF THEM IT SAYS, OH, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
SOMEONE SAID, WE DID IT FOR 30 YEARS.
AND EVEN IN A RECENT EMAIL, HE SAID, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT ROAD.
AND SO IN OUR REPORT, YOU CAN SEE IT.
WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE PRIVATE ROAD THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IT SAYS AT THE ENTRANCE PRIVATE ROAD.
AND HE SAYS HE'S DISAPPOINTED THAT THE CREWS WON'T GO OUT AND PLOW THAT ROAD.
SO WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM FINANCIALLY, THE TOWN COUNCIL WANTS TO ADDRESS IT, WORKING WITH SOME OUR STAFF, AND AGAIN,
FIRST THING THAT'S ON THE LIST, THE SECOND THING'S ON THE LIST, PLEASE READ IT.
IT'S A BIT DENSE READING, BUT IT'S ALL DOCUMENTED THERE.
AND, UH, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE, THEY WILL.
I I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA FOCUS BACK IN, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO, I DON'T HAVE TO REITERATE WHAT FRANCIS JUST SAID, BUT VIS-A-VIS THE COURTHOUSE, YOU KNOW, TO SAY WE DID NOT HAVE A COURTHOUSE OVER A YEAR AGO, UM, AFTER MANY YEARS OF STUDY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COURTHOUSE, OR WE, WE AS THIS CURRENT BOARD OVER A YEAR AGO, HIRED A CONSULTANT TO DO A STUDY AND THEY DID A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT TOOK THEM AN ENTIRE YEAR AND THEY PRESENTED IT LAST NIGHT.
UM, I SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT IT, IT, IT REALLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND THE, THE, THEY ADDED, THEY'D ORIGINALLY GIVEN US A ROUGH FIGURE, YOU KNOW, COMPLYING IN, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT $37 MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INTENDED, I DON'T RECALL, BUT IT WAS RECENT AROUND THAT.
BUT WE HAD OTHER, THEY PROPOSED OTHER, UH, ADDITIONS LIKE A PARKING STRUCTURE WITH AN EXTRA LEVEL, FOR INSTANCE, SO THAT THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COST TO IT.
IT'S VERY EXCITING AND IT'S VERY NECESSARY, AND WE WILL PRESENT THAT TO YOU.
IT, WE, WE PAID FOR THIS TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT IS SO NECESSARY AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PRESENT TO YOU.
SO TO SAY THAT WE HAD NO PLAN AND, AND TO THEN ALSO TRY TO DISMANTLE THAT PLAN, UM, WHICH IS A VERY STEP THOUGHT OUT IN A VERY STEP BY STEP AWAY IS REALLY UNFAIR.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I'D LIKE TO ALSO, NOW GETTING BACK TO THE BUDGET, UM, THE MONIES THAT DISAPPEARED FROM THE RESERVED FUNDS WEREN'T NECESSARILY, UM, UM, ALLOCATED THROUGH BUDGET TRANSFERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY ROLLS INTO THE FUND BALANCE IF IT'S UNSPENT, IF IT'S NOT RESTRICTED.
SO BEFORE YOU START MAKING THOSE, UM, BEFORE YOU START MAKING THOSE, UH, COMING TO THOSE CONCLUSIONS, LET'S SEE WHAT THE STORY IS.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING.
YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL THAT YOU'RE OBSESSED WITH YOUR HATRED OF ME.
AND, AND THE THING IS, I DON'T CARE IF YOU LIKE ME OR YOU DON'T LIKE ME, BUT I DO CARE WHEN YOU'RE DAMAGING THE REPUTATION OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
BECAUSE WHAT I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS IS THAT VIRTUALLY EVERYONE THAT I SPEAK TO, THEY LOVE THE POLICE.
THEY THINK THAT POLICE ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
THEY LOVE THE SANITATION WORKERS, THEY LOVE THE HIGHWAY CREWS.
UH, THEY LOVE, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
UH, THEY, THE, THE, WHEN THEY COME TO TOWN HALL AND, UM, AND THEY HAVE PROBLEMS, THEY FEEL THAT OUR, UM, EMPLOYEES ARE RESPONSIVE.
SO IF YOU ASK, UH, MOST PEOPLE IN THE TOWN, DO THEY FEEL THAT THE TOWN GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIVE TO THEIR CONCERNS, I'M CONVINCED THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, UH, UH, WOULD SAY THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TOWN AND THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE SERVICES AND THEY'RE, UH, HAPPY, UH, WITH THE RESPONSIVENESS OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK HERE.
SO WHEN YOU ARE WRITING TO THE STATE CONTROLLER SAYING, PLEASE INVESTIGATE, EVEN THOUGH YOU VOTED ON THE BUDGET, YOU'RE BASICALLY
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DAMAGING THE REPUTATION OF THE TOWN.UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU ARE, UH, PUTTING PULSES ON THE TOP OF THE WEBSITE, UM, SAYING THE TOWN IS IN, UH, YOU KNOW, IS POORLY MANAGED, SOMEBODY WANTS TO MOVE HERE, UH, OR IF THEY WANNA, UM, UH, OPEN UP A BUSINESS HERE AND THEY LOOK AT IT, IT'S GONNA HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING, UM, YOU TO DO.
UH, I, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE CONTROLLER, UM, I'VE SAID ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE, SHE INDICATED THAT THE AUDIT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES IN THE AUDIT ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED.
UH, THAT THE TOWN, SHE BELIEVES THE TOWN IS WELL MANAGED.
UH, WE ARE NOT IN FISCAL DISTRESS AS YOU CLAIM WE ARE.
UM, UM, SO YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GO, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE A VICTORY FOR YOU.
UM, IF THE TOWN FALLS APART, YOU KNOW, UH, LATER ON TODAY, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE THAT I'M RAISING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR HAVING ONE PERSON DO TWO JOBS.
THAT'S MISMANAGEMENT BECAUSE OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE TRIED THAT, UM, THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, MIDDLETOWN HAS COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND UM, AND UM, THE, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND I THINK LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, UH, THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION ABOUT IT.
AND THERE'S MASSIVE PROBLEMS WITH, WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
WE NEED ONE FULL-TIME COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ONE FULL-TIME BUILDING INSPECTOR.
AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WASTE OF MONEY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST WASTE OF MONEY IS THE FACT THAT YOU AND SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD ARE TAKING THE HEALTHCARE BUYOUTS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOW $20,000 ON TOP OF YOUR SALARY.
YOU ARE GETTING $20,000 ON TOP OF IT IS SUPPOSED TO POLICY.
IT'S NOT A PLATFORM FOR YOU TO POLITICIZE THINGS.
HE'S CAN WE GO ON WITH OUR MEETING PLEASE? BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? HE'S INSULTING ME.
I'M GONNA, CAN WE HAVE OUR MEETING PLEASE? YEAH, BECAUSE YOU DON'T, CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE RIPPING WITH THE TAXPAYER? WE DON'T WANT YOU TO USE THIS AS A POLITICAL PLATFORM.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO HEALTHCARE.
ARE YOU TAKING THE HEALTHCARE BUYER? NO.
I'M COVERED BY GREENBERG HEALTHCARE ALL.
WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO WE NOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT NEXT WE HAVE AND THE HEALTHCARE LET, THE HEALTHCARE BUYER SAVES TAXPAYERS $2.1 MILLION, 2.1 MILLION AND HELP AND SAVES YOU $20,000 BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING
WE UNDERSTAND WALTER, I'M PARLIAMENTARIAN.
PLEASE, THAT DOESN'T HELP WITH THIS DISRUPTIONS.
CAN WE HAVE AND I DO NOT GET $20,000.
HOW MUCH DO YOU GET? CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER? I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO FISHING, DO YOU? ARE YOU COVERED BY ANOTHER INSURANCE? CO GOVERNMENT INSURANCE, RIGHT? EXACTLY.
CAN WE HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE? YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BUYOUTS BUT YOU DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU UNNECESSARILY TAKE TAKE.
NO, IT'S JUST EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING.
WE HAVE TO DO, OKAY, CAN WE HAVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER? YOU HAD NO ISSUE WHEN HE SPOKE AFTER YOU WHERE YOU PROMPTED HIM FOR THE RESPONSE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD SAVE THIS, UH, TOWN A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY IF WE HAD EQUAL TIME FOR THE PUBLIC AND YOU GUYS BLOVIATING.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DID FOR THE LAST HALF HOUR.
ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
WELL, WE'RE NOT EVERY ONE OF YOU.
WELL OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT, BUT YOU SHOULD BE.
UM, LET ME GIVE MY 2 CENTS ON THIS, WHAT YOU DID, 2019.
YOU'RE NOW GETTING A, UM, CONSULTING REPORT THAT'S SEVEN YEARS OF THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY INTEREST FREE LOAN FOR SEVEN YEARS.
THAT MONEY SHOULD HAVE GONE BACK TO THE TAXPAYER.
THEY COULD HAVE USED IT AND THEY DID USE IT.
AND NO, YOU'RE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY TWICE THE MONEY WENT BACK AND AND AS A, A TAX DEDUCTION.
AND THIS IS A CREDIT TO YOU, ONE OF THE MOST DETAIL ORIENTED PEOPLE.
PARDON THE FRENCH, IT'S ONLY WAY FINE, PLEASE.
IT'S, BUT, BUT, UM, BUT YOU ARE A DETAIL ORIENTED PERSON.
IT SURE IS SOMETHING WENT WRONG.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UM, YOU, YOU ARE A DETAIL-ORIENTED PERSON
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AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW HE WAS PAYING FOR THE TAX DEDUCTION, BUT HOW IS THAT THE $20 MILLION, $32 MILLION JUST APPEARED OUT NOWHERE AND WE MAGICALLY DID IT.AND OH, WE WEREN'T ON THE BOARD.
SO YOU, IF YOU WEREN'T ON THE BOARD, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SIGNED, SIGNED THAT TRANSMITTAL LETTER EITHER 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
SO HOW COULD YOU HAVE SIGNED THAT TRANSMITTAL LETTER? THE TWO OF YOU? OKAY, YOU WERE THERE.
NUMBER THREE, CALLING IT A SLUSH FUND.
FIRST OF ALL, THOSE IN THAT INTERNSHIP PROGRAM HAS BEEN A, A GODSEND FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND THANK YOU JUDITH BEVILLE WHO ACTUALLY DID RUN THE PROGRAM.
AND THAT BUS, WAS IT A BAD THING? I DON'T THINK IT WAS APPROVED BY PAUL.
ACTUALLY I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED BY JUDITH.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? AND UNDER THE CIRCUM, I REMEMBER WHEN IT HAPPENED.
SHE SAID WHAT THEY HAD NO WAY TO GET IT WAS GOING TO REGENERON.
I REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
OKAY, NOW HERE'S THE BIGGEST DEAL.
AND PAUL GOT TO IT A LITTLE BIT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE HECK WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE LETTER TO THE CONTROLLER.
IF IT WASN'T POLITICAL, OF COURSE IT WAS POLITICAL AND YOU AND PAUL REALLY JUST SCRATCHED THE SURFACE IN TERMS OF THE DAMAGE TO THE TOWN.
YOU WANNA SEE THAT AAA RATING GO DOWN.
WHO'S THAT GONNA HURT? IT'S GONNA HURT EVERYBODY OUT HERE.
THE TAXPAYERS 'CAUSE THEIR INTEREST RATES ARE GOING UP BECAUSE INSTEAD OF TAKING THE FORENSIC REPORT, THERE ARE ISSUES AND DEALING WITH IT.
NO, YOU HAVE TO TURN THIS INTO A PUBLIC THING, PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT AND MAKE SURE DAVID MCKAY WILSON KNOWS ABOUT IT AND PUTS IT ON A SUBSTACK.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW? EDGEMONT INCORPORATION.
I HAVE BEEN AN OPPONENT TO THE DETRIMENT OF MY, MYSELF, MY SAFETY AND MY FAMILY SAFETY OF EDGEMONT INCORPORATION FOR YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE IF I CAN'T, IF I CAN SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS TOWN BOARD.
'CAUSE INSTEAD OF DOING YOUR JOB AND PUTTING THE POLITICAL THING ASIDE AND JUST FIXING THIS, INSTEAD YOU HAVE TO TURN THIS INTO WORLD WAR III.
YOU GUYS TURNED IT INTO WORLD WAR III, THAT LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL, YOU DID IT.
YOU HAVE NO OTHER EXCUSE FOR IT.
AND IT'S DAMAGING TO THE TOWN, VERY DAMAGING TO THE TOWN.
AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
YOU'RE GONNA PAY THE INCREASE IN INTEREST.
ARE YOU GONNA PAY THE INCREASE IN TAXES WHEN EDGEMONT LEAVES? BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THIS TOWN BOARD, WATCH THIS ON TV AND SAY, OH MY GOD, I DON'T WANT THIS TOWN BOARD.
I CAN DO BE BETTER WITH MY OWN REPRESENTATIVES AND I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT.
I CARE ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THIS TOWN.
I CARE ABOUT FAIRVIEW, I CARE ABOUT THE OTHER PARTS OF TOWN.
I CARE ABOUT HARTSDALE, WHICH IS WHY I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT EDGEMONT SHOULD STAY PART OF THE TOWN.
BUT I CAN'T TELL MY NEIGHBORS THAT.
NOW HOW CAN I WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING? I WOULD WITHDRAW THAT LETTER IMMEDIATELY.
YOU HAVE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY, THIS ENTIRE BOARD DOES.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, YOU DON'T SEEM AS DETAIL ORIENTED WHEN IT COMES TO A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF UN UNBUDGETED LEGAL EXPENSES WHEN EVERYBODY ASKS FOR AN ANSWER TO THAT, OR INSIDE OF THAT IS WELL OVER $200,000.
THAT WAS PAID IN YOUR OWN DEFENSE FOR AN ETHICS COMPLAINT WHEN THE ETHICS BOARD, EVEN IF THEY RECOMMENDED AGAINST YOU, HAD ABSOLUTELY NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING TO YOU.
BUT YOU SPENT OVER $200,000 OF OUR MONEY TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE HIDING THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE REPORT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, THE TOWN CONTROLLER HAS SAID THAT SHE ANTICIPATES, IF WE DON'T GET SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, THERE'S GONNA BE A 50% INCREASE IN, IN OUR PROPERTY TAXES IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
NOW JOIN US IN FIXING THIS PROBLEM.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT BY HIDING UNDER A RUG.
AND THAT'S WHY YESTERDAY WE HAD A $48 MILLION BOND, UH, PROPOSAL FOR, UH, THE COURTHOUSE AND POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
SO IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAXES, WHY, WHY DID WE HAVE SOMEBODY COME UP AND SAY, THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN.
WE HAVE TO SPEND $48 MILLION ON A BOND REFEREND BECAUSE NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE 58.4.
NO, BECAUSE 59.4 MILLION, IF YOU PUT $48 MILLION, THAT MEANS YOUR TAXES ARE NOT GONNA GO DOWN.
SO THE QUESTION IS ARE, ARE THERE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE AD, THE, UH, UH, THE DISABILITY ACT REQUIREMENTS.
UH, WE HAVE TO IMPROVE THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND $48 MILLION ON, UM, BOTH THE POLICE AND COURTHOUSE RIGHT NOW.
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YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S SO MUCH FINANCIAL DISTRESS, WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, THAT THE TAXES ARE GONNA GO UP UNLESS WE, UH, WATCH AEROSOLS.SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, LET'S BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE SPEND THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
IF THE MORE MONEY YOU SP YOU PUT IN FOR BORROWING AND, UM, AND BONDING, UH, THE HIGHER THE TAXES ARE GONNA GO UP.
AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID YESTERDAY.
BUT THE BOARD IS SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, WE, WE WANNA KEEP SPENDING MONEY AND MONEY AND MONEY ON CONSULTANTS AND WE WANNA PUT IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE WANNA MOVE ON THIS THAT PLAN, THAT THE, THAT PLAN THAT THEY PROPOSED, I PERSONALLY THINK WAS THE MOST IDIOTIC PLAN THAT I'VE, EXCEPT THAT IF WE HAD HAD THE 32 POINT NO, I WOULD NOT HAVE, IF I MAY, IF WE HAD HAD THE 32, 39, IF WE HAD THE $39.4 MILLION IN THE BUDGET AS WE'D ALL VOTED ON, WE COULD SAY THEN WE WOULD ONLY BE HAVING A REFERENDUM FOR UNDER 10.
SO THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE.
PEOPLE WOULD PAID HIGHER TAXES, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU SEE HEARING THIS IS THAT IT WAS USED TO LOWER THE TAXES.
AND YOU KEEP SAYING IT WAS USED FOR A LOT MORE THAN LOWERING TAXES.
YOU LOOK AT ANY VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWN NOW, THEY'RE ALMOST ALL BRAND NEW.
SO ALL BRAND NEW, WE WON'T BUY ANY MONEY.
WHY? BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY IN THE FUND BALANCE AND INSTEAD IT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, THERE BECAUSE OF DRAINING THE COURTHOUSE MONEY.
WELL, YOU'RE THE BUDGET, THE LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU, YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE FINISH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I REALLY COMMENT THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
DOES ANYONE MAKE, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? COULD WE MAYBE HOLD THE REST OF THE COMMENTS UNTIL AFTER SPEAKERS HAVE FINISHED? OKAY.
I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS COULD LISTEN TO MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND.
I KNOW THE ISSUES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
NO, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US TOO.
I HAVE MY, I HAVE SLIDES THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS.
I AM THE DIRECT OFBUT TO THE K KNOWLES, WHICH IS PROPOSING TO EXPAND BY 74 APARTMENTS DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOME IN MY ALLOTTED FIVE MINUTES.
I WILL BE FOCUSING ON BUILDING HEIGHT AND STORIES.
TO SUM, SUMMARIZE THE ZONING DEFINITION OF HEIGHT FOR THIS PROJECT.
HEIGHT IS MEASURED FROM THE FINISHED GRADE, THE GROUND TO A POINT HALFWAY BETWEEN THE EAVE AND THE TOP OF THE ROOF.
THAT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD UNTIL YOU LOOK AT HOW IT'S APPLIED.
THE ZONING LIMIT IS 2.5 STORIES AND 35 FEET.
THE APPLICANT STATES THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS, ONE AT TWO AND A HALF STORIES, 33 FEET, FOUR INCHES, AND ANOTHER AT THREE AND A HALF STORIES, 42 FEET AND THREE INCHES.
SO I HAVE THREE POINTS TONIGHT.
ONE, THE FINISHED GRADE, THE GROUND LEVEL, THIS IS A CRITICAL REFERENCE POINT.
THE HEIGHT DEFINITION LIMITS THE USE OF FILL IN DETERMINING FINISHED GRADE.
YOU CANNOT BUILD UP THE GROUND AND THEN USE THAT NEW ELEVATION AS YOUR BASELINE WHEN YOU ARE MORE THAN 10 FEET ABOVE THE STREET LEVEL.
IT'S IN THE CODE IN THE DEFINITION HERE.
FILL HAS BEEN ADDED TO ACHIEVE 416 AND A HALF FEET FINISHED GRADE.
AND IT SEEMS THAT THIS WAS USED IN THE TO CALCULATE HEIGHT.
THIS FEW FEET IS ENOUGH TO TRIGGER A VARIANCE THAT WAS NOT APPLIED FOR.
THE EVE, THIS IS ALSO A CRITICAL REFERENCE POINT IN HEIGHT.
TOWN CODE SAYS MEASURE TO THE MIDPOINT BETWEEN THE EVE AND THE RIDGE.
IT DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE MULTIPLE EVE HEIGHTS.
THIS BUILDING HAS SEVERAL EAVES AND IT SEEMS THE APPLICANT SELECTED THE LOWEST MOST MINOR TO CALCULATE HEIGHT, THE ONE AT THE CORNERS AND OVER THE STAIRWELLS, ONLY THE DOMINANT EVE THAT DEFINES THE BUILDING'S MASS AND VISUAL IMPACT HAS BEEN IGNORED.
IF IT WERE USED, THE HEIGHT WOULD BE HIGHER AND TRIGGER VARIANCES.
AND THESE TWO POINTS LEAD TO A LARGER ISSUE.
AND MY MOST IMPORTANT FINAL QUESTION.
WHY IS THIS BUILDING BEING CLASSIFIED AS TWO BUILDINGS AT ALL? THESE STRUCTURES ARE PHYSICALLY CONNECTED ON ALL THREE FLOORS.
THEY SHARE A LOBBY AND AN ELEVATOR, AND
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RESIDENTS MUST MOVE BETWEEN THEM FOR DINING.THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
FUNCTIONALLY, THIS IS ONE BUILDING AT THE PLANNING BOARD.
A MEMBER ASKED WHY DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A FIVE STORY BUILDING? SHE EVEN WROTE AN EMAIL TO THE APPLICANTS.
THE KNOWLES STATED THEY ARE SEPARATE BUILDINGS UNDER NEW YORK STATE BUILDING CODE.
IT WAS IN THEIR NOVEMBER 3RD, THIRD RESPONSE LETTER.
BUT THIS IS A ZONING QUESTION, NOT A BUILDING CODE QUESTION.
AND BY THE WAY, IT DOESN'T MEET BUILDING CODES, SEPARATE BUILDINGS ANYWAY.
ZONING IS ABOUT FUNCTION, SCALE, AND IMPACT.
SO THE QUESTION REMAINS, IS THIS BEING LABELED AS TWO BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO CALCULATE HEIGHT AND STORIES SEPARATELY AND APPEAR CLOSER TO COMPLIANCE? BECAUSE IF EVALUATED AS A SINGLE STRUCTURE, WE ARE NO LONGER TALKING ABOUT TWO AND A HALF AND THREE AND A HALF STORIES, BUT SOMETHING CLOSER TO FIVE STORIES AND OVER 50 FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE LEVEL OF IMPACT MY HUSBAND AND I ARE EXPERIENCING.
SO IN CLOSING, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD, BEFORE ANY RESOLUTION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE REFER THESE ISSUES TO THE ZONING BOARD FOR AN INTERPRETATION.
IT IS UNREASONABLE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT ANSWERS TO BASIC QUESTIONS LIKE HEIGHT STORIES AND HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE HERE.
AND I'LL SUBMIT MY COMMENTS TO THE RECORD, BUT SINCE I HAVE, I'M A LITTLE HEAD TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THIS DRAWING HERE.
SO THE UPPER IS THE PICTURE OF THE WHOLE BUILDING.
AND THOSE ARE THE SAME LABELS THAT THEY USE ON THEIR SITE PLAN.
I CLIPPED THIS FROM THEIR SITE PLAN.
THEY SAY LEVEL 0 1 2 MAIN UPPER, AND THOSE ARE THE, THE BREAKOUTS OF THE THREE FLOORS.
AND THEY'RE CALLING THOSE THREE FLOORS, FLOORS, SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
SO LEVEL MINUS TWO, THEY SHARE A LOBBY, RIGHT? THE PEOPLE, THEY SHARE A LOBBY.
AND YOU'D HAVE TO, IF YOU WERE IN WHAT THEY'RE CALLING A SEPARATE BUILDING, THIS IS A SENIOR BUILDING, YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO THE OTHER BUILDING TO USE THE ELEVATOR.
SO HOW DID THAT MEET? EVEN MEET BUILDING CODE.
NEVERMIND ZONING CODE, RIGHT? LOOK AT THE CORRIDORS LEVEL ONE, YOU GOTTA PASS THROUGH THERE TO UP TO THE MAIN BUILDING FOR DINING.
RIGHT ON THE, SO THIS IS FOR THE RECORD, RIGHT? OKAY.
JUST WROTE SOMETHING TODAY JUST TO FOLLOW UP, SHERRY, THAT'S HARD TO FOLLOW.
UH, ALWAYS BEEN DOING IT FOR, SINCE OCTOBER.
ANYWAY, HELLO, I'M HECTOR YUI, SHERRY'S HUSBAND, THREE STEVENS LANE.
I'M PROUD, I'M PROUD OF SHERRY'S EFFORTS WITH HER ONGOING DIALOGUE WITH YOU TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE MANY ISSUES WITH BETHEL KNOLL'S APPLICATION.
BACK IN 2003, UPON RETURNING HOME FROM MY MILITARY DEPLOYMENT TO THE MIDDLE EAST FOR OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM, MY WIFE SHERRY AND I WENT LOOKING FOR A HOUSE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY.
THAT IS WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOME ON STEVENS LANE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND WE DID RAISE OUR FAMILY IN THIS WELL-RUN TOWN FOR THE NEXT 20 PLUS YEARS.
I WOUND UP COACHING MY KIDS' SOCCER TEAMS AND WOUND UP, UH, HOLDING OUR SOCCER PRACTICES IN MY BACKYARD.
AND WE CREATED A COUPLE DECADES OF OTHER FARM MEMORIES IN OUR HOME AND OUR BACKYARD, ENJOYING THE FREEDOMS THAT I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OUT TOWN ALSO WORKS HARD TO PROTECT.
UNFORTUNATELY, FOR A WHILE I DID NOT FEEL SO PROTECTED BY MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
I'VE BEEN SADDENED TO SEE SOME OF THE ACTIONS THIS PAST YEAR IN REGARD TO THIS APPLICATION BY THE BETHEL KNOLLS THAT SEEMED TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE TYPES OF DOINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE LEADERS OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THE ONES WHO SPEAK OF PROTECTING OUR FREEDOMS, BUT WHOM UNFORTUNATELY DO A LOT OF THINGS TO LIMIT OUR FREEDOMS. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF.
I HAD SEEN OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE MEET FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS WITH A LARGE ORGANIZATION WHO PAYS THE TOWN ZERO TAXES AND WANTS TO SET ASIDE OVER A DOZEN OF THE LAWS THAT, UH, WERE DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS LIKE ME FOR THE ORGANIZATION'S BENEFIT AND FINANCIAL GAIN.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NUMEROUS REQUESTS FOR BUILDING VARIANCES TO THE LAWS THAT ARE THERE TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS OF OUR TOWN LIKE YOU AND ME.
I HAD SEEN OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ALLOW FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, THIS LARGE ORGANIZATION WHERE THERE EXPENSIVE ATTORNEYS AND EXPENSIVE CONSULTANTS BE ALLOWED TO MAKE HOURS LONG PRESENTATIONS TO THE TOWN IN AN EFFORT TO DENY MY FUTURE FREEDOM TO ENJOY MY HOME WHEN I, THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER AM NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT ANY OF THESE PRESENTATIONS.
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FIVE MINUTE TIME SLOTS AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS TO DEFEND MY HOME.BUT LATELY, DUE TO OUR PERSISTENCE AND MOSTLY DUE TO MY WIFE'S HARD WORK, I'M STARTING TO HAVE SOME HOPE THAT THIS BOARD MAY BE STARTING TO PAY ATTENTION TO US, WHICH WOULD GO A LONG WAY AS OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE OFTEN SAID TO RESTORE MY FAITH IN MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
SO LIKE SHERRY DID, I AGAIN ASKED THIS TOWN BOARD AS THIS APPLICATION CONTINUES ITS COURSE TO GREATLY CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS OF EVERY VARIANCE REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AND TO PLEASE DEEPLY CONSIDER EVERY DETRIMENT TO MY FAMILY'S FREEDOM TO ENJOY OUR HOME UNDER THE PROTECTIONS OF THE LAWS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO PROTECT US INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS AND NOT JUST THE LARGE ORGANIZATION LOOKING TO EXPAND AT OUR EXPENSE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LISTENING TO MY WIFE SHERRY DURING HER FIVE MINUTE TIME SLOTS OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS.
AND I AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF OUR TOWN, YOU AND MR. DUQUE WHO LEFT, UH, MR. PAYNE ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
THEY BOTH APPLY 20, UM, SIDNEY COLLINS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, SIDNEY.
SIDNEY COLLINS ONE MAPLE STREET GREENBURG.
I'M NOT GONNA BE BEFORE YOU LONG.
IT'S A LOT I COULD SAY FOR WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT ALONE BECAUSE A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY AND IT'S JUST, I WAS JUST SHOCKED I WAS ONLY HERE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT THE GOING BACK AND FORTH BICKERING IS JUST LIKE UNBELIEVABLE TO ME.
ANYWAY, SO I'M HERE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
UM, BASICALLY I'M PART OF THE KIWANIS CLUB, OF THE FAIRVIEW GREENBURG AREA, AND WE ARE HAVING A PANCAKE BREAKFAST ON APRIL 11TH.
AND THIS IS TO BENEFIT OUR KIDS IN THE FAIRVIEW GREENBURG AREA, AND IT'S BEING HELD AT THE FAIRVIEW FAIR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO EVERYONE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME.
YOUR TICKETS ARE $15 FOR ADULTS AND 10 AND UNDER IS $8.
SYDNEY, WHAT TIME? UM, IT'S STARTING AT NINE 30.
NINE 30 TO 1230 ON APRIL 11TH.
AND IT'S BEING HELD AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT 19 ROSEMONT BOULEVARD.
I'M GONNA LEAVE THIS WITH LISA.
MAYBE WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, KEISHA, DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, KEISHA? NO, THANK YOU.
KE THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.
[ Appointment of Frank Morabito provisionally as Commissioner of the Department of Public Works, pending county approval, effective April 3, 2026]
I'M HOLDING OVER THE APPOINTMENT, UM, OF, UH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS.UH, WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, NEXT TUESDAY AND WE COULD, UH, AT THAT TIME, UM, DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT.
[ AT 1 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the continued retention of Thomas J. Troetti, Esq., to represent Greenburgh Police Officer Jason Vlasaty, and authorizing the continued retention to represent Greenburgh Police Officer Joanny James and Sergeant Dyana Albano in the matter of Patrick A. Navas v. the Town of Greenburgh, et al, for an amount not to exceed an additional $25,000, $150,000 in total]
UH, A T ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING, UH, THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF THOMAS TROTTI, UH, TO REPRESENT GREENBURG POLICE OFFICER JASON VATI AND AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION TO REPRESENT GREENBURG POLICE OFFICER, UH, JOHNNY JAMES AND SERGEANT DEANNA ALBANO $150,000 IN TOTAL.I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOVE THAT ANY SECOND? SECOND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[ AT 2 - 03/25/2026 Resolution approving the continued retention of the law firm of Morris Duffy Alonso Faley & Pitcoff to represent the Town of Greenburgh in the Matter of Patrick A. Navas v. The Town of Greenburgh, et al for an amount not to exceed an additional $25,000, $125,000 in total]
T TWO RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF THE LAW FIRM OF MA DUFFY L OSO, LEY AND PITCOCK TO REPRESENT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN THE MATTER OF, UH, PATRICK NA NAVIS VERSUS TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED AN ADDITIONAL 25,125,000 IN TOTAL.ALL IN FAVOR? A COULD I POLITELY ASK THAT EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, PLEASE GO ON THE BACK BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WITH DIFFERENT VOICES.
[ AT 3 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner GEJ TARRYTOWN LLC for property located at 120 White Plains Rd. The Town’s share of the refund is $17,025±; the County’s share is $107,194±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $22,783±; the Irvington Union Free School District’s share is $789,849±, Refunds from all sources total $936,852± ]
THREE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED TEXT OR SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER GE J TERRA TOWN, LLC FOR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT ONE 20 WHITE PLAINS ROAD, UM, REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL $936,852.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT FRANCIS.
SECOND, I, UM, A T FOUR RESOLUTION,
[ AT 4 - 03/25/2026 Resolution rescinding Resolution AT-6 – 01/28/2026 and authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into an Inter-Municipal Agreement with the Hartsdale Public Parking District (HPPD) to reimburse HPPD the costs of personnel and benefit expenses for a Full-Time Parking Enforcement Officer and a Part-Time Parking Enforcement Officers from January 1, 2026 to December 31, 2026, in an amount not to exceed $118,390]
RESCINDING RESOLUTION A 18 SIX.UM, AND AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER INTO AN INTER MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE HARTSDALE PUBLIC, UH, PARKING DISTRICT TO REIMBURSE, UM, THE PARKING DISTRICT, THE COST OF PERSONNEL AND BENEFIT EXPENSES FOR FULL-TIME PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, PART-TIME PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2026 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2026 FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $118,390.
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SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.[ CL 1 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing closing Jennifer Lane, between the dead end of Jennifer Lane and the intersection of Jennifer Lane and Jean Lane, on Saturday, June 6, 2026 (rain date Saturday, June 13, 2026), from 4:00 PM until 8:00 PM, for the residents of Jennifer Lane to hold their neighborhood block party]
AUTHORIZING CLOSING JENNIFER LANE BETWEEN THE DEAD END OF JENNIFER LANE AND INTERSECTION OF JENNIFER LANE AND JEAN LANE, UM, FOR JUNE 6TH FOR A BLOCK PARTY.[ CD 1 - 03/25/2026 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh approving an amended contract related to the services of Sophia Johnson LLC as sustainability coordinator related to Climate Smart Community actions]
UM, RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG APPROVING AN AMENDED CONTRACT RELATED, UH, TO THE SERVICES OF SOPHIA JOHNSON AS SUSTAINABLE, UM, COORDINATOR RELATED TO CLIMATE, UH, SMART COMMUNITY ACTIONS.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.
[ CO 1 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing closing of completed Capital Projects]
AUTHORIZING CLOSING OF COMPLETED CAPITAL PROJECTS.[ CO 2 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2025 budget amendments for the Capital Fund]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2025, BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO THE CAPITAL FUND.UH, CO THREE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
[ CO 3 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $1,000,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the town's share of the cost of improvements to East Hartsdale Avenue and West Hartsdale Avenue, in and for said town]
ISSUANCE OF 1 MILLION BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, NEW YORK TO PAY THE TOWN SHEAR OF THE COST OF IMPROVEMENTS TO EAST HARTILL AVENUE AND WEST HARTILL AVENUE AND END.I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ CO 4 - 03/25/2025 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $1,200,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the purchase of sanitation trucks, in and for Said Town]
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF $1,200,000 IN BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, TO PAY THE COST OF THE PURCHASE OF SANITATION TRUCKS AND, AND FOR SET.[ CO 5 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $1,278,600 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the purchase of miscellaneous facilities, in and for said Town]
FIVE, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE IS ISSUANCE OF $1,278,600 IN BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WESTCHESTER COUNTY TO PAY THE COST OF THE PURCHASE OF MISCELLANEOUS FACILITIES.WHAT'S THAT? WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THIS.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR FLEXIBILITY SO THAT IF WE DON'T USE IT, WE WE'RE NOT LIMITED.
IF WE'RE USING IT FOR ONE, ONE FACILITY, WE CAN USE IT FOR ANOTHER WITHOUT GOING, PUTTING BACK THE MONEY.
SO IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AND ONE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INTERRUPT.
GINA IS NOW ON, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND, UH, REMOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD SOMETHING OVER.
UH, ACTUALLY, UH, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
UM, I'M, I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
WE, I WE CANNOT, YES, I MADE A MOTION.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE WE, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL.
THIS IS ABOUT, UH, THE, THE POSITION.
I BELIEVE THAT IF THE TWO POSITIONS ARE, IF THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, UH, IT IS THE SAME PERSON AND THE DEPUTY, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR ALSO GETS A SEPARATE JOB.
WE WILL HAVE ONE INSPECTOR, ONE FULL-TIME INSPECTOR, UM, WHICH IS LESS THAN MOST VILLAGES.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO THE THING IS, I WANNA HAVE A DISCUSSION THEN LET KNOW OF THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON, UM, PROBLEMS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAD DUAL, UM, UH, POSITIONS HAVE HAD.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA REEM THIS THROUGH YOU, THIS IS GROSS MISMANAGEMENT.
AND I HOPE IF THERE, GOD FORBID, IT IS A CATASTROPHE, OKAY? THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO VOTE FOR THIS WITH KNOWLEDGE THAT IT CAN WORK WILL BE HELD PERSONALLY LIABLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S A HIGH STANDARD, THERE'S A HIGH STANDARD OF, UM, OF PERSONAL LIABILITY FOR MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS, BUT YOU ARE ALL ON NOTICE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE ONE TERRIFIC FULL-TIME INSPECTOR.
UM, WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.
YOU HAVE A COMMISSIONER, UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO BASICALLY, UM, UM, IS GONNA BE WORKING AS COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE BASIC, I DON'T KNOW.
I WANNA GET A WEEKLY UPDATE OF ALL INSPECTIONS CONDUCTED DURING, UH, UH, A WEEKLY, UH, BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I WANNA KNOW WHO CONDUCTED EACH OF THE INSPECTIONS AND THE NAMES OF THE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS THAT RECEIVED AN INSPECTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TIME IN WHICH THE INSPECTIONS WERE REQUESTED AND THE TIME, RIGHT? AND WHICH INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED.
HOW LONG THE WAITING PERIOD IS.
UM, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS? YOU ARE GONNA DESTROY THE TOWN, RIGHT? BECAUSE BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE NO FUNCTIONING NO, NO BOAT.
I WANNA HAVE I MADE A MOTION A SECOND.
YOU HAVE, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION.
WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY COUNCIL FI FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS.
THERE'S A VOTE ON MOTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COULD WORK.
RIPPING OFF THE TAX JOE IS, AND YOU'RE DESTROYING THE TOWN.
JOE IS THIS, AND YOU, WHAT? YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO DESTROY THE REPUTATION OF THE NO, PAUL, YOU ARE DESTROY REPUTATION.
AND, AND WE, IF, IF WE DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS, WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMISSIONER.
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A SPECIAL MEETING ON TUESDAY AFTER WE INTERVIEW THE, OKAY.SO I, I I WILL SAY BY, BY ROBERT'S RULES, IT'S NOT DEBATABLE.
I'VE KIND OF LET IT GO ON BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY OBJECTION UNTIL THAT POINT.
BUT TO SUSPEND THE RULES BY OUR RULES, YOU WOULD NEED FOUR VOTES TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
WELL, WHERE GINA, WHERE ARE YOU RIGHT NOW? I, SAVANNAH, GEORGIA.
YOU WANNA COME JOIN ME? SHE'S AT, SHE'S AT A FUNERAL.
WELL, DO WE DO WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I, I BASICALLY FEEL THAT THIS ALL IN FAVOR IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS GONNA DESTROY THE VOTE.
WHERE ARE WE A JOEY? WELL, YOU'RE JUST GOING ALONG WITH, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THIS WHOLE, YOU HAVE THE RESPONS ANYTHING.
I I'VE BEEN, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR.
I, YOU DO KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING FOR.
PAUL, WHAT ARE YOU VOTING FOR? I DO KNOW WHAT I DO, KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING FOR.
WHAT ARE YOU VOTING FOR? ARE WE SUSPENDING, I'M SUSPENDING THE RULES FOR WHAT? FORWARD FOR WHAT? THAT'S WHAT THAT FOR.
WHAT? THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THE APPOINTMENT, WHICH IS EXACTLY SOMETHING YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST TO MOVE THE APPOINTMENT.
CAN WE MOVE ALONG? I AM WITH FAMILY.
I'M ALL, I'M VERY RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE.
WE, WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMISSIONER IN PLACE.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSS, WE HAVE OVER AND OVER AGAIN COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON TUESDAY AND IT COULD BE ENACTING COMMISSIONER FOR 30 DAYS.
BECAUSE BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN MIDDLETOWN, NEW YORK LAST YEAR, THEY HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE TOWN.
WE DO NEED THE OTHER TWO VOTES.
UM, I I'M SORRY, IT'S PARLIAMENTARY.
I DO HAVE TO STICK TO ROBERT'S RULES.
THAT'S WHAT OUR OWN RULES SAY.
TYPICALLY IT'S A TWO THIRDS VOTE.
OUR VOTE, OUR CODE SPECIFICALLY SAYS FOUR MEMBERS ARE DATED.
I FEEL, AND SINCE WE'RE HAVING DEBATE THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE, WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER OF DPW LEAVING VERY SHORTLY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO TAKE UP THE REINS AND SOMEONE WHO'S HAD TRAINING FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
AND IT IS A PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT, PAUL.
SO IF WE FIND THAT IT'S NOT WORKING OUT IN, IN TWO, THREE MONTHS TIME, SIX MONTHS TIME, WE HAVE TO REVISIT IT, OF COURSE.
BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMISSIONER IN PLACE NOW.
SO, SO TO IT, IT, IT'S CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE DESPITE YOUR FACE BY SAYING THAT YOU WON'T WANT TO, THAT YOU WANNA HOLD IT OVER IF THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU, WE CAN'T MAGICALLY COME UP WITH A, UH, SOMEONE TO FILL SUCH AN IMPORTANT POSITION.
WHO HAS THE TRAINING THAT FRANK MORINO HAS? RIGHT? SO I GUESS GO AHEAD.
UM, THIS IS ALSO DEPENDENT ON APPROVAL FROM THE COUNTY.
SO EVEN IF WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE VOTE FOR THE APPOINTMENT, THERE STILL HAS TO BE OTHER, UH, SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE FOR IT TO GO FORWARD.
SO, UM, I I MEAN WE CANNOT HAVE A COMMISSIONER.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY I DO HAVE MY CONCERNS.
I DO, UH, ABOUT HAVING ONE BEING DOWN ONE, ONE FULL, VERY IMPORTANT PERSON.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD.
BUT I DO, SO I WILL, I WILL VOTE FOR THE APPOINTMENT.
NO, YOU FIRST HAVE TO VOTE FOR SUSPENDING THE RULES, RIGHT? FOR SUSPENDING THE RULES.
AND PAUL, HOW ARE YOU VOTING? UH, IT'S NOT A SECRET.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS THE WORST THING THAT I'VE SEEN IN MY WHOLE IS IT A YES OR HIS VOTE? NO.
NOW THAT WE HAVE SUSPENDED THE RULES, I MOVE THE APPOINTMENT OF FRANK MODO PROVISIONALLY AS COMMISSIONER OF DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, PENDING COUNTY APPROVAL, EFFECTIVE APRIL 3RD, 2026.
AND I JUST WANT TO, IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.
AND I WANTED, I WANTED ALL IN FAVOR? NO, THAT IS, I HAVE A RIGHT TO DISCUSS IT.
SO BASICALLY I WANNA MENTION THAT I, I HAVE VERY, VERY STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING DUAL ROLES.
AND I HAVE DONE RESEARCH BECAUSE MIDDLETOWN DOES THE SAME THING.
IN 2025, THEY DID AN INVESTIGATION.
THEY FOUND THAT BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS WAS ALSO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, THERE WERE INVOICES THAT WERE DIGITALLY ALTERED TO MOVE COSTS BETWEEN PROJECTS.
UH, THEY, THEY FOUND FINANCIAL FRAUD AND POTENTIAL, UH, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
WORK LOCATIONS WERE CHANGED, UH, TO FIT FUNDING RULES.
UM, THEY FOUND THAT ONE PERSON DOING MULTIPLE JOBS, UM, IN MIDDLETOWN, BECAUSE THEY DID THE EXACT SAME THING.
THE STAFF SHORTAGES WERE SO SEVERE THAT ONE EMPLOYEE PERFORMED DUTIES
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OF, OF PUBLIC WORKS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, BUDGET ANALYST.THEY BASICALLY FELT THAT THERE WAS TOO MUCH AUTHORITY CONCENTRATED IN ONE PERSON.
THERE WAS NO INDEPENDENT REVIEW OR SEPARATION OF DUTIES TO HAVE THE BUILD.
WHEN YOU HAVE A BUILDING A A COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, THEY BASICALLY, UH, DEAL WITH CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, PROJECTS.
SO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, WHO WILL BE THE SAME PERSON, WILL REVIEW THE CAPITAL, UH, UH, PROJECTS THAT, UM, THAT THE COMMISSIONER OR PUBLIC WORKS, IT'S THE SAME PERSON, UH, BASICALLY AUTHORIZED.
SO IT IS A VERY, VERY BIG CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
I, UH, WROTE TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS, THEIR MEETING ON APRIL 16TH.
THEY'RE GONNA GIVE HER OPINION ON WHETHER THERE'S A POTENTIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, CONFLICT.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FISCAL INTEGRITY, OUR FINANCIAL, THIS IS, IT IS GONNA BE IN MIDDLETOWN.
THERE WAS A FAILURE TO MANAGE FUNDS AND PAYMENTS PROPERLY.
UH, THERE WAS INFRASTRUCTURE NEGLECT AND POOR OVERSIGHT.
CITY BUILDINGS, UM, HAD PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DIDN'T HAVE THE, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO, TO DO THE REVIEWS.
WHEN I DEAL WITH RICH FOND, WHO'S A COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, HE'S AVAILABLE DAY, NIGHT, WEEKENDS.
IT'S A, YOU KNOW, YOU DEALING WITH WATER, YOU'RE DEALING WITH HIGHWAY, YOU'RE DEALING WITH POTHOLES.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO AROUND RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY'S COMPLAINING ABOUT POTHOLES AROUND THE TOWN.
SO THE THING IS JUST THE POTHOLES IS GONNA TAKE HOURS AND HOURS A DAY.
SO HOW IS, UM, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR GONNA BE DOING INSPECTIONS WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE ONE FULL-TIME INSPECTOR? IT'S NOT TRUE.
BECAUSE YOU WANNA GIVE LIZ GARY, IT'S NOT TRUE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU, YOU WANT MAKE HER THE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY ALSO, WHICH IS ALSO, UH, A COM A POTENTIAL CONFLICT.
SO, SO I THINK THIS IS THE BIGGEST TAXPAYER RIP OFF.
AND I ALSO FEEL, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE VACANCIES, WE'VE HAD THREE VACANCIES IN THAT DEPARTMENT FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
I'VE CONTACT, I MET WITH THE COMMISSIONER, THE COUNTY I MET WITH, UH, THE, UH, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I BASICALLY HAVE SAID, LET'S HIRE RETIREES.
I'VE SAID THIS NUMEROUS TIMES.
AND I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR PROBABLY TWO OR THREE YEARS.
I'VE SAID WHATEVER WE COULD DO TO FILL UP THE, UM, THE POSITIONS, I BASICALLY WANNA SEE THAT HAPPEN.
I WILL NOT TOLERATE, UH, WAITING AND APPOINTING, UH, FRIENDS OR RELATIVES TO THESE POSITIONS.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BASICALLY CAN, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? EXCUSE ME, I'M, YOU'RE MAKING ALL KINDS OF ALLOCATIONS.
WELL, I'M NOT SUPERVISOR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? PLEASE, WOULD YOU PLEASE PROVIDE BACKUP RATHER THAN EXECUTING THIS ON FACEBOOK? AND, AND, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD IDEA IF YOU WOULD, RATHER THAN USING THIS AS A BULLY, POPE, GIVE US, GIVE US, GIVE US BACK, PLEASE.
PLEASE GIVE US BACKUP FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE WAS A DISHONEST PERSON IN, IN MIDDLETOWN.
AND TO EQUATE SOMEONE WHO WAS DISHONEST AS AT TO, TO A JOB PERFORMANCE OF ANOTHER PERSON IS REALLY HIGHLY INSULTING.
AND I THINK THAT, THAT THOSE EXAMPLES THAT YOU, THEY, THEY, THEY MAY, THEY'RE VALID CONCERNS.
IF YOU HAVE VALID CONCERNS, MAKE THEM KNOWN.
BUT DON'T CAST ASPERSIONS PLEASE AND DON'T IMPLY NEGATIVITY.
PLEASE, LET'S TALK LIKE ADULTS RATHER THAN USING THIS AS A BOARD TALK.
WELL, WE NEED FULL, WE NEED FULL ONE FULL TIME.
FIRST OF ALL, THE SALARY IS GONNA BE OVER.
HOW MUCH IS THE SALARY GONNA, YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN.
WHAT'S THE SALARY? YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN.
CAN WE FINISH THE VOTE SO THAT G CAN GET BACK TO OUR FAMILY? IF WE'RE GONNA BE APPOINTING HIM, IS HE GONNA GET THE SAME SALARY HE'S GETTING NOW OR IS HE GONNA GET TWO SALARIES? THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SALARY AND THE COMMISSIONER PUBLIC? NO.
YOU KEEP MAKING ALLEGATIONS THAT AREN'T TRUE.
YOU'RE VOTING ON AN APPOINTMENT.
WHAT'S THE SALARY? CAN WE FINISH THIS VOTE? BECAUSE I WANT GINA TO GET BACK TO HER FAMILY.
NO, I WANNA SAY, WHAT'S THE SALARY? YOU, YOU'RE APPOINTING SOMEBODY.
IS HE GONNA GET THE SAME SALARY HE'S GETTING RIGHT NOW? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON? OR IS THERE ANOTHER SALARY THAT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN, UH, WHAT YOU WANT? WE SPOKE ABOUT IT.
G CAN YOU PLEASE? WHAT'S THAT, GINA? WE CANNOT DISCUSS.
PAUL, CAN YOU LISTENS? PAULA, STOP.
PAUL, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME GRANDSTANDING THAT YOU NEED TO DO THIS EVENING FOR EVERYONE, BUT IT'S NOT, PLEASE STOP LYING AND STOP MISLEADING PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS,
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BUT THESE DISCUSSIONS DID NOT HAPPEN.OKAY? BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ANGRY, YOU NEED TO FIGHT WITH FACTS AND NOT FIGHT WITH LIES.
THE FACTS THAT I WANT IS HOW MUCH IS HE GETTING PAID? THAT'S A FACT THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW.
I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE SALARY IS BEFORE WE VOTE.
OH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE SALARY IS.
SO AT LEAST HOLD ON THE FLOOR.
POINTING SOMEBODY WITHOUT TELLING EVERYBODY WHAT THE SALARY IS.
IS IT GONNA BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND? IS IT GONNA BE 200? NO, IT GONNA BE TWO 60.
I MAKE A MOTION TO END THE DEBATE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO END SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ON THE MO THE MAIN MOTION, UH, JOY.
THE MOTION FOR THE APPOINTMENT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOWN TO IT SEEMS A LONG TIME.
HAS IT MOVED? YES, IT'S NOTED.
NOW, NOW THAT GINA'S NOT BEING DELAYED, I FEEL OBLIGATED, PARTICULARLY SINCE YOU RAISED HIS NAME AGAIN HERE TO READ WHAT LIZ GARRITY WROTE.
SHE'S ACTUALLY ON THE MEETING, BUT SHE'S SO EMOTIONALLY DISTRESSED OVER WHAT YOU DID TO HER AND FRANK MODO TODAY.
PUTTING IT OUT ON THE GB LIST, THEN ON YOUR FACEBOOK, THEN IN PATCH.COM, MALIGNING WITH FALSE STATEMENTS.
HE'S NO MALIGNING THEIR REP REPUTATION.
I SAID THEY'RE DOING A GOOD, THE PEOPLE.
WELL, I COULD READ WHAT I, I'M, I'M GONNA READ.
WHY DON'T YOU READ DEAR, DEAR, I KNOW WHAT YOU WROTE.
I KNOW WHAT YOU WROTE AS THE, SO THIS IS FROM LIZ GARRITY, BUT, AND SHE IS ON THE MEETING SO I CAN READ IT.
AS THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR, WE FIND IT NECESSARY TO CORRECT THE PUBLIC RECORD ADDRESS, THE SUPERVISOR'S RECENT PUBLIC STATEMENTS.
THE SUPERVISOR HAS DIS DISTRIBUTED STATEMENTS TO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS THROUGH THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA, THE GV LIST, MASS EMAIL THAT CONTAINS MATERIALLY FALSEHOODS ABOUT COMPENSATION, STAFFING, AND OPERATION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THESE ARE NOT MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
THEY'RE DEMONSTR DEMONSTRABLY INACCURATE CLAIMS THAT MISLEAD THE PUBLIC, UNDERMINE CONFIDENCE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND FALSELY SUGGEST RISKS, RISKS TO PUBLIC SAFETY WHERE NONE EXISTS.
THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT, BUT A CONTINUING PATTERN OF DE UH, DISSEMINATING FALSE NARRATIVES ABOUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND ITS PERSONNEL, EVEN AFTER BEING REPEATEDLY PRESENTED WITH FACTS THAT DIRECTLY CONTRADICT THOSE STATEMENTS.
THE PERSISTENCE OF THESE INACCURATE STATEMENTS, UH, THESE INACCURACIES REFLECT A KNOWING AND INTENTIONAL DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH, SUPPORTS AN INFERENCE OF MALICE AND CANNOT BE VIEWED AS INADVERTENT.
THIS PATTERN OF CONDUCT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR TOWN STAFF.
EQUALLY CONCERNING, THE SUPERVISOR IS CHOSEN TO SINGLE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES BY NAME.
THAT DECISION WAS UNNECESSARY, INAPPROPRIATE, AND PERCEIVED AS TARGETED HARASSMENT.
IT HAS CREATED A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT THAT IS NOT LEADERSHIP.
THE SUPERVISORS CLAIM THAT THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS WOULD RECEIVE TWO SALARIES FOR TWO POSITIONS IS FLATLY FALSE.
THE COMPENSATION STRUCTURE IS ONE SALARY WITH A DEFINED STIPEND FOR ADDITIONAL DUTIES.
A STANDARD MUNICIPAL PRACTICE CALLING THIS DOUBLE PAY IS NOT A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
IT IS A MISREPRESENT OF FACTS.
THE CONTROLLER'S ANALYSIS CONFIRMS THAT THIS STRUCTURE PRODUCES APPROXIMATELY $160,000 IN NET SAVINGS ANNUALLY COMPARED TO HIRING A SEPARATE FULL-TIME COMMISSIONER.
INSTEAD, THEY WERE GIVEN A MISLEADING NARRATIVE THAT DISTORTS BOTH THE COST AND THE PURPOSE OF THE ARRANGEMENT.
THE SUPERVISOR HAS ALSO CLAIMED THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OPERATES WITH ONLY ONE FULL-TIME INSPECTOR, IMPLYING THAT INSPECTIONS ARE NOT BEING PERFORMED AND THAT RESIDENTS ARE AT RISK.
THE DEPARTMENT INCLUDES MULTIPLE QUALIFIED
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PROFESSIONALS, INCLUDING A BUILDING INSPECTOR, DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR, PLUMBING INSPECTOR, AND TWO PLANS.EXAMINERS, ALL OF WHOM ARE LICENSED NEW YORK STATE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AND ACTIVELY PERFORM INSPECTIONS.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, NONE OF COMPROMISED ENFORCEMENT OR INCREASED RISK TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE ATTEMPT TO LABEL THESE MATTERS AS ETHICS VIOLATIONS IS EQUALLY BASELESS.
ETHICS VIOLATIONS INVOLVE SELF-DEALING, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR MISUSE OF OFFICE FOR PRIVATE GAIN.
NONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS ARE PRESENT HERE.
DISAGREEMENTS OVER STAFFING STRUCTURE OR COMPENSATION OR POLICY MATTERS, NOT ETHICS VIOLATIONS.
USING THE ETHICS COMPLAINT PROCESS TO GIVE WAY TO INACCURATE CLAIMS IS ITSELF UNETHICAL.
IMPORTANTLY, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR CURRENTLY SERVES IN A DUAL ROLE AS BOTH BUILDING INSPECTOR AND DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND MULTIPLE DEPARTMENT HEADS WITHIN THE TOWN HOLD DUAL ROLES OR ADDITIONAL ASSIGNMENTS WITH AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL HOLDING MULTIPLE POSITIONS BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE TOWN.
NO ETHICS OPINIONS WERE SOUGHT OR ISSUED WHEN THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE APPOINTED OR PERMITTED TO SERVE IN MULTIPLE CAPACITIES.
SINGLING OUT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S DUAL APPOINTMENT AS A POTENTIAL QUOTE UNQUOTE, ETHICS VIOLATION.
WHILE MATERIALLY, UH, IDENTICAL SITUATIONS WERE ALLOWED WITHOUT QUESTION REFLECTS A SELECTIVE, INCONSISTENT AND TARGETED APPROACH THAT UNDERMINES PUBLIC CONFIDENCE AND THE CREDIBILITY OF THE ETHICS PROCESS.
WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED THAT A MEMBER OF THE ETHICS BOARD HAS PUBLICLY COMMENTED ON THESE ISSUES IN WAYS THAT ALIGN WITH THE SUPERVISOR'S NARRATIVE.
THAT CONDUCT UNDERMINES THE ETHICS BOARD'S ABILITY A REQUIRED IMPARTIALITY.
ANY MEMBER WHO HAS PUBLICLY TAKEN A POSITION SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM ANY RELATED MATTER.
FINALLY, THE SUPERVISOR'S USE OF THE TOWN'S GB LIST TO SPREAD MISLEADING INFORMATION AND PUBLICLY TARGETED TARGET IN INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES IS A MISUSE OF PUBLIC RESOURCES.
THE CONTINUED DISTRIBUTION OF INACCURATE CLAIMS AFTER THEIR INACCURACY HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED CANNOT BE DISMISSED AS INADVERTENT AND RAISE ITS SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT INTENT.
THIS TAXPAYER FUNDED PLATFORM IS INTENDED FOR OFFICIAL BOARD AUTHORIZED COMMUNICATIONS, NOT FOR ADVANCING FALSE NARRATIVES OR PUBLICLY DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC STAFF.
THIS CONSEQUENCE, THIS CONDUCT HAS CONSEQUENCES.
IT DAMAGES PUBLIC TRUSTS, HARMS EMPLOYEE MORALE, AND THREATENS THE TOWN'S ABILITY TO RETAIN QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS.
POLICY DISAGREEMENTS ARE LEGITIMATE.
MISSTATING FACTS TO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IS NOT.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE TOWN COUNCIL CORRECT THE PUBLIC RECORD.
THE PUBLIC DESERVES THE TRUTH.
AND TOWN EMPLOYEES DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS WITHOUT BEING INTENTIONALLY AND PUBLICLY TARGETED.
LIZ GARRITY AND FRANK MORABITO.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I DID NOT, UM, DISPARAGE THEM.
I BASICALLY, UM, SAID IN MY EMAIL TO THEM, I SAID, FRANK IS CURRENTLY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND HAS SERVED THE DEPUTY COM AS DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS.
HE IS HARDWORKING, CREATIVE, AND SMART.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO VOTE FOR HIS APPOINTMENT IF HE DEVOTES FULL-TIME TO THE JOB OF COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT JOB IN TOWN GOVERNMENT.
THE TOWN BOARD, AND I DISAGREE ON THIS, THEY WANT HIM TO GET PAID FOR BOTH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND COMMISSIONER PUBLIC WORKS TWO SALARIES FOR TWO POSITIONS.
I THINK HE SHOULD BE PAID, UH, PICK ONE OF THE JOBS.
AND THEN I SAID ABOUT, UH, THE DE I SAID, THE DEPUTY, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR LIZ GARRITY IS ALSO AN EXCELLENT PUBLIC, UH, SERVANT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HER APPOINTED AS THE FIRST FEMALE BUILDING INSPECTOR, WHICH SHE IS VERY QUALIFIED TO BE APPOINTED TO.
SHE HAS ASKED THE BOARD TO ALSO GIVE HER TWO JOBS.
DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AND DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR.
AND THEN I SAID, THE ONLY OTHER THING I SAID WAS THE GREENBERG BUILDING DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY HAS ONLY ONE FULL-TIME INSPECTOR.
YEARS AGO, THE DEPARTMENT HAD SIX OR SEVEN.
IF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND DEPUTY TAKE ON OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES, THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE VERY SHORT-STAFFED WITH ONLY ONE OTHER PERSON DOING ALL THIS IN INSPECTIONS.
AND I SAID, IT'S I IMPOSSIBLE.
UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE VACANCIES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THE VACANCIES HAVE EXISTED FOR A FEW YEARS.
UH, GREENBERG HAS FEWER INSPECTORS IN, UH, SMALLER COMMUNITIES AND A LARGE TERRITORY TO COVER.
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I'M, AND I INDICATE THAT I'M REACHING OUT TO, UM, UM, TO OTHER BUILDING DEPARTMENTS CO UM, CO UM, COMPARING STAFFING OF OTHER, UH, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENTS WITH OURS AND, UM, THEN EARLIER TODAY.AND WHO DID YOU SEND THAT TO? WHO DID YOU SEND THAT WAS ON THE GB LIST? THAT'S AND WHERE ELSE DID YOU SEND IT? FACEBOOK.
AND, BUT I COMPLIMENTED BOTH OF THEM.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT LIZ BECAUSE I COULD VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT EITHER ONE AS EITHER COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS OR BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THE ONLY, AND I WOULD SAY THIS IF IF IT WAS ANYBODY ELSE, I BELIEVE THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE VERY HARDWORKING, VERY COMPETENT, VERY SMART, VERY DILIGENT.
BECAUSE IF, IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, IF RIGHT NOW LIZ IS DOING, AND FRANK, THEY BOTH DO, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, THERE'S TOO MANY.
IT MIGHT BE TWO JOBS, RIGHT? BUT NO, BUT I'M SAYING, BUT THERE'S TOO MANY INSPECTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE.
AND ALSO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS EVERY SINGLE DAY, UM, FROM, UM, THERE'S MULTIPLE ISSUES IN THAT DEPARTMENT THAT REQUIRES FULL TIME.
WHAT I HAVE SUGGESTED EARLIER TODAY, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE TOWN BOARD TO FRANK, TO LIZ, TO JOE DANKO AND TO KIMBERLY, UM, UH, GUTMAN AND TO NICOLE MURPHY.
I SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE FOLLOWING GOING FORWARD, AND THIS COULD HELP US AS A BOARD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THIS ARRANGEMENT WORKS.
ONE, A WEEKLY UPDATE OF ALL INSPECTIONS CONDUCTED DURING THE PERIOD BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW TWO, WHO CONDUCTED EACH OF THE INSPECTIONS AND THE NAMES OF THE BUSINESSES OR RESIDENTS THAT RECEIVED AN INSPECTION.
THREE, THE TIME IN WHICH THE INSPECTION WAS REQUESTED, AND THE TIME IN WHICH THE INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED.
HOW LONG IS AWAITING PERIOD? FOUR, HOW MANY, UH, PERMIT APPLICATIONS ARE OUTSTANDING AND NEED AN APP, UH, AN INSPECTION FIVE.
I SAID, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT COLLAPSES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
DO WE HAVE A PROACTIVE PLAN TO RANDOMLY INSPECT STRUCTURES AND OLDER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE NOT, UH, MADE REQUESTS FOR INSPECTIONS AND HAVEN'T, UH, BEEN INSPECTED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? AND THEN I SUGGESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A COMPROMISE, I SAID, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY, UM, IN THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS, WE SHOULD HAVE MADE FRANK, UH, COMMISSIONER FOR 30 DAYS IN ENACTING CAPACITY.
AND THEN NEXT WEEK WE COULD DISCUSS THE ABOVE CONDITIONS WITH FRANK AND HAVE HIM COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, AND RESPOND TO WHAT I'VE SUGGESTED.
I SAID, I BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY THAT FRANK COULD HANDLE THE COMMISSIONER POSITION IF HE, IF HE HAS A DEPUTY WITH EXTENSIVE MANAGERIAL SKILLS AND PUBLIC WORKS, UH, TO BE PROACTIVE, WE SHOULD POST THE POSITION OF DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AND START GETTING, UH, RESUMES.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S, THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE NOT EVEN ACTIVELY POSTING, UM, AND PUBLICIZING THE NEED FOR, UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER.
SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE A COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS WHO IS THE DE ALSO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WORKING AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I BELIEVE THAT EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH WILL, WILL, WILL, WILL BE, THERE'LL BE PROBLEMS. AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE, UM, A DETERIORATION IN SERVICES.
AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY PEOPLE LOVE LIVING HERE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE FANTASTIC SERVICES, FANTASTIC EMPLOYEES, PEOPLE, THIS, THESE, BOTH OF THESE JOBS ARE SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU NEED FULL-TIME ATTENTION.
YOU, YOU CAN'T HAVE SOMEBODY GIVING IT, DOING A HALF TIME, NOT SPENDING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR TIME.
RICH SPENT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF HIS TIME ON THE JOB.
HE, HE, HE WOULD CALL ME AND I'D CALL HIM AT NIGHT.
HE'D BE, HE'D HE WAS AVAILABLE ON WEEKENDS.
WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT ANYMORE.
AND, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
THEY, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I GOT AN EMAIL AND, UM, THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, FROM PUBLIC WORKS SAYING IN THE FUTURE, THEY DON'T WANT ME TO, UM, SEND EMAILS TO, UH, THE COMMISSIONER.
THEY WANTED TO GO DIRECTLY TO DPW.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT BECAUSE I WANNA HAVE OVERSIGHT.
I WANNA BE ABLE TO TRACK, UM, WHAT IS BEING DONE AND BEING IMPLEMENTED AND WHAT ISN'T.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, THEY WANT, THEY DON'T WANT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO FOLLOW UP ON CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS RELATING TO PUBLIC WORKS.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING MORE POTHOLES, WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING, UH, MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, OTHER PROBLEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS TO WORK.
I, I HAVE, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND.
OKAY, WE, WE, WE, WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS.
CAN WE, WE GOTTA GO TO, WE GOTTA GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
PAUL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF 1 MILLION, JOIN 78,600 BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, TO PAY THE COST OF THE PURCHASE OF MISCELLANEOUS FACILITIES IN AND FOR SET TOWN.
[ CO 6 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $3,500,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the replacement or rehabilitation of curbs, in and for said town]
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE[02:55:01]
OF 3,500,000 BONDS AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UM, TO PAY THE COST OF THE REPLACEMENT OR REHABILITATION OF CURBS.AND THEN FOR SET TOWN, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
UM, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CO SEVEN OF,
[ CO 7 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $4,960,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of various building and facility improvements, including roof, door and window replacements at various locations, HVAC replacement at the Byrne Center, Highway and Sanitation Garage Upgrades and Library Upgrades, in and for said town]
UH, CO SEVEN, UH, ISSUANCE OF 4,960,000 AND BONDS, UM, OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO PAY THE COST OF VARIOUS BUILDING AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING ROOF DOOR AND WINDOW REPLACEMENTS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS.HVAC REPLACEMENT AT THE BURN CENTER HIGHWAY AND SANITATION GARAGE UPGRADES AND LIBRARY UPGRADES AND IN FOR SATAN.
[ CO 8 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $5,500,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the reconstruction and improvement of various town roads, in and for said town]
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF 5,500,000 IN BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO PAY THE COST OF THE RECONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT OF VARIOUS TOWN ROADS.AND THEN FOR SET TOWN, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ CO 9 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $8,700,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of various drainage improvements, in and for said town]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF 8,700,000 BONDS, UM, OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO PAY THE COST OF VARIOUS DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND IN FOR SET TOWN.RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE
[ CO 10 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $373,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the purchase of various police trucks, in and for said town]
OF 373,000 BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UM, TO PAY THE COST OF THE PURCHASE OF VARIOUS POLICE TRUCKS IN IN SET TOWN.[ CO 11 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $501,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the acquisition of ambulance and paramedic flycar, in and for said town]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF 501,000, UM, BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, TO PAY THE COST OF THE ACQUISITION OF AMBULANCE AND PARAMEDIC FLY CAR.AND THEN FOR SET TOWN, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
UH, CO O 12 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE
[ CO 12 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $609,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the purchase of heavy-duty machinery and vehicles for maintenance purposes, in and for said town]
OF 609,000 BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, TO PAY THE COST OF THE PURCHASE OF HEAVY DUTY MA MACHINERY AND VEHICLES FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES.AND THEN FOR SATAN, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ CO 13 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $925,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of improvements to town parks and recreational areas, including at East Rumbrook Park and the Nature Center, in and for said town]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF 925,000 BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, TO PAY THE COST OF IMPROVEMENTS TO TOWN PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS, INCLUDING AT, UM, EAST ROMBERG PARK AND THE NATURE CENTER IN, IN FORSET TOWN.RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE
[ CO 14 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the issuance of $455,000 Bonds of the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York, to pay the cost of the purchase of replacement police or passenger vehicles for various departments, in and for said town]
OF $455,000 BONDS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, TO PAY THE COST OF THE PURCHASE OF REPLACEMENT POLICE OR PASSENGER VEHICLES FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.[ PR 1 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing award to lowest responsible bidder to provide bus transportation for 2026 summer camps, including Camps Rainbow, Kidco, Good Times, Star, Victory and TDYCC, at a cost not to exceed $477,453]
AUTHORIZING AWARD TO LOIS, RESPONSIBLE BIDDER TO PROVIDE BUS TRANSPORTATION FOR 2026 SUMMER CAMPS, INCLUDING CAMP RAINBOW KITCO, GOOD TIMES STAR VICTORY, AND T-D-Y-C-C AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 477,453.[ PO 1 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the Police Department to award bid for various medical supplies to be used in 2026 to the lowest responsible bidder per item]
ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO AWARD BID FOR VARIOUS MEDICAL SUPPLIES TO BE USED IN 2026 TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER PER ITEM.PO TWO, PO TWO OR POLL WE'RE PULLING
[ PO 2 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the Police Department to award the bid for the purchase of Dodge Durango unmarked administration vehicles to the lowest responsible bidder, at a total cost not to exceed $175,136 ]
YOU HOLDING THAT.WE'RE JUST PULLING IT AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT.
WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO AWARD THE BID FOR THE PURCHASE OF DODGE DURANGO UNMARKED, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, VEHICLES TO THE LOWEST WE'RE PULLING THAT WE OKAY.
[ PW 1 - 03/25/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute a license agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and owners of 101 East Hartsdale Avenue, Hartsdale, NY 10530 for vibration monitoring in connection with a sewer main relocation project located at 100 East Hartsdale Avenue, Hartsdale, NY 10530]
ONE, YOU SPOKE THE COPY RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN GREENBURG AND OWNERS OF 1 0 1 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE FOR VIBRATION MONITORING AND CONNECTION WITH SO REMAIN RELOCATION PROJECT LOCATED A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE IN HARTSDALE.AND I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF WE COULD, AT THE WORK SESSION NEXT TUESDAY, INVITE, UM, FRANK AND LIZ TO, UM, UH, RESPOND TO, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS MY REQUEST FOR A WEEKLY UPDATE OF ALL INSPECTIONS.
UH, A LIST OF, UH, ALL THE INSPECTIONS THAT ARE BEING DONE, UM, EACH WEEK, UM, UH, DURING THE DURATION OF THE ERROR, UH, PERIOD, UM, THE TIME IN WHICH THE INSPECTION WAS REQUESTED AND THE TIME IN WHICH THE INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED.
UM, HOW MANY PERMIT APPLICATIONS ARE OUTSTANDING AND NEED AN INSPECTION? UM, AND, UM, I'D LIKE THAT TO BE DONE ON A WEEKLY BASIS BECAUSE IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE ASKED IN THE LAST 30 HALF, 4 35 YEARS OF YOUR, WELL, WELL, WE'VE NEVER HAD, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING BUT WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO DO THIS EXTRA WORK.
I MEAN, I'M NOT THERE, THERE'S SOME SAYING DO IT EVERY WEEK.
I I CAN CERTAINLY THERE'S REPORTAGE THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
BUT YOU'RE MAKING I WANT SPECIFICS, SO I DON'T WANT THEM TO SAY I DID 500 INSPECTIONS WITHOUT THE SPECIFICS HARDER THEM TO DO THEIR WORK.
NO, BECAUSE I, I WANT, I WANT SPECIFICS BECAUSE BASICALLY I'M NOT, I DIDN'T SAY THAT PAUL, I DIDN'T SAY YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE IT.
IT'S GOOD IDEA TO, FOR THEM TO MAKE REPORTS, BUT WE YEAH.
SHOULD HAVE IT TO DECIDE TO THIS IS A FAILURE, WHICH I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT.
THEN BASICALLY, UM, UH, WE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THING IS, AND BECAUSE WE CAN'T LET, LEMME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
SO I'M SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THEY, UH, THEY MEET WITH US AND WE, AND WE SHOULD ALSO DISCUSS THE COMPENSATION AT THAT MEETING BECAUSE THAT COMPENSATION CAN'T, WE CAN'T.
COMPENSATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN MISSED, MISLEAD THAT NO, IT'S NOT, IT GOES IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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WELL, RIGHT NOW THE COMPENSATION IS THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN.THERE'S BEEN NO
THERE'S NO COMPENSATION INCREASE UNTIL THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES.
SO I THINK FRANK, WELL, THAT'S NOT PART THIS MEETING.
NO, I I I JUST HAVE TO SAY PAUL 'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU AND FRANK.
HE'S NOT GOING TO ALLOW PRIVATE ROADS TO BE PAVED NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU, YOU ASK HIM TO DO IT 'CAUSE IT'S NOT LEGAL.
HE'S NOT GOING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY FOR CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS AND NOT GIVE VIOLATIONS WHERE THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER GETS ONE.
AND I KNOW THAT SCARES YOU TO DEATH.
I JUST, I JUST HAVE TO NOTE, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY, YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY ASK HIM TO BURY, BURY HIM WITH MINUTIAE.
HOW LONG DOES HE TAKE AT AN INSPECTION? SO IF IT ONLY TAKES FIVE MINUTES, BUT MAYBE IT'S LOOKING AT SOMETHING REALLY SIMPLE.
HE GAVE YOU DATA THEY DIDN'T GIMME, BUT THEN YOU DIDN'T WANNA ACCEPT IT.
THEY GAVE ME DATA THAT WAS UNSUBSTANTIATED, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BURY HIM AND DO MINUTIA.
I THINK WE HAVE A, I I'M SORRY.
I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION TO, TO CLOSE THE MEETING WITH, BUT I SECOND, I JUST WANNA SAY DON'T WANT HIM BURY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHEN MINUTIA.
I WANT THEM TO BE DOING THE INSPECTIONS.
HE'S SETTING THEM UP FOR FAILURE.
AND DID YOU, FRANCIS, DID YOU VOTE? I I VOTE.