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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH HARTSDALE CONTEXTUAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AGENDA Friday, March 27, 2026 at 12:00 pm (Town Hall Auditorium) Zoom Video Conference (for link send email to planning@greenburghny.gov)]
AT 12:04 PM UH, AND, UH, SHOULD WE DO RETURNING BUSINESS FIRST? RETURNING BUSINESS? NO, RETURNING ARE RETURNING BUSINESSWANNA DO THE HARSDALE MARKETPLACE? THE ONLY ONE.
UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO, UH, DISCUSS HCRC 26 DASH OH ONE, THE, UH, HARTSDALE MARKETPLACE AT 1 96 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SORRY, I GOTTA CALL YOU RIGHT BACK, CICI.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA, SIR, WE'RE GONNA PROJECT THE, UH, THE PLAN, IF YOU COULD WALK US THROUGH IT.
IS THAT ORIENTED PROPERLY? UH, THIS, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS CORNER STORE, STRAIGHTFORWARD, 18 INCH CHANNEL LETTERS GOING ON THE LEFT SIDE LOGO OVER THE FRONT DOOR.
AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT WILL BE THE ONE ON THE SIDE.
UH, IT'S HARD TO SEE RIGHT NOW, BUT DURING THE SUMMER THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING VISIBLE ON THE FRONT OF THE STORE.
I HAVE PICTURES HERE OF IT THAT I TOOK FROM GOOGLE SO WE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT SEASONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PROJECT THAT OR NOT.
CAN YOU NOT A PHYSICAL PICTURE.
IF YOU SENT THAT VIA EMAIL, I COULD GET THAT ABUNDANCE.
I, I, THE UPPER LEFT CORNER I THINK HAS A IMAGE OF THE EXISTING OKAY.
I, I CAN SHOW YOU THE PICTURE.
YOU CAN PASS THIS DOWN TO LIZ.
AND HERE'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE.
I DON'T THINK I MADE A BUNCH OF COPIES JUST IN CASE.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE SUMMER, ONCE THE TREES ARE OUT, THE FRONT OF THE STORE IS BASICALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT BLOCKED.
THE HOPE IS THAT ANYTHING GOING ONE DIRECTION EVENTUALLY IS GONNA GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SO EVEN IF THEY'RE COMING FROM THE SCARSDALE AREA, WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THE SIDE SIGN.
HE WANTS TO HAVE THE FRONT, SAME AS RITE AID DID OVER THE DOOR AND THE CHANNEL LETTER.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT SIGN IS TO ME, IS GONNA BE THE SIDE SIGN.
DO YOU AGREE LIZ? WHO, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE, THE STREET TREES? TOWN OF GREENBURG? UH, DPW.
BUT TREES GROW LIKE WEEDS, SO IT, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT UP THERE AT LEAST IN THE WINTERTIME.
IT'LL BE VISIBLE ON, ON BOTH FACADES.
IN THE SUMMERTIME HE'LL BE VISIBLE ON, UH, I GUESS YOU CALL IT THE WESTERN FACADE.
AND, AND WHEN WAS THIS PHOTO TAKEN? THAT WAS, UH, THERE SHOULD BE A DATE, TIME, AND DATE ON IT.
SEE WHAT YEAR? THIS ONE I HAVE DOESN'T HAVE.
THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
I TOOK IT FROM THREE DIFFERENT VIEWS.
UH, THE AWNINGS ARE JUST A SIMPLE RECOVER OF EXISTING FRAME.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND IS, THIS IS KIND OF CUT AND DRY THE SIGN, AND MAY I ASK, MAY I ASK ABOUT THE AWNINGS? SURE.
THERE'S NOT ONE OVER THE DOOR AND THE SIDE.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER UNDER THE OTHER SIGN.
NOW JUST, JUST THE ONES THAT ARE BEING SHOWED, THERE'S TWO ON THE FRONT FACADE AND THREE ON THE SIDE FACADE.
AND WHY WOULDN'T YOU PUT ONE OVER THE DOOR? I DON'T HAVE AN, I GUESS I COULD.
THEY, UM, THERE WAS NOT ONE THERE BEFORE, SO THEY
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WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.BUT IF YOU'D LIKE ONE THERE, I, I COULD SPEAK TO THE OWNER, I'M SURE.
BUT THEN ON UNDER THE OTHER SIGN, THERE'S A WINDOW THERE.
AND SO I GUESS YOU WOULD NEED ONE THERE TOO.
BUT I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SPEND MORE MONEY.
IT'S JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY THE LOOK WASN'T CONTINUOUS AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING.
UM, I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION AND I'M SURE HE WOULD ADDRESS IT.
IS, UH, CAESAR ON? I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA SIGN IN.
SO YOU'D LIKE A, THE
IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE CORNER WAS A, A NICE MARKETPLACE.
I CAN, I CAN SURELY ADDRESS THAT.
UH, ARE THEY RE AND ARE THEY RETRACTABLE? WE, I I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UM, RETRACTABLES NEED MAINTENANCE AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TAKE IN A RETRACTABLE IF IT GETS WINDY OUT.
SO I WOULD SAY A STATIONARY IS PROBABLY BETTER.
WHAT A RETRACTABLE AWNING LOOK TOO CLUTTERED IS MY QUESTION.
IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULD NOT, BUT IT'S NOT PRACTICAL FOR, IT WOULD NOT LOOK PRACTICAL.
PEOPLE OF OF TODAY'S CALIBER ENOUGH.
THEY HAVE TO KNOW TO TAKE THE AWNING IN.
IF IT GETS WINDY OUT AND THEY DON'T AND THEY START BOUNCING.
GET BROKEN ARMS. NO, I'M JUST THINKING CLUTTER.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE OTHER, YOU HAVE AWNINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE, HERE'S A PICTURE.
YOU HAVE AWNINGS ON THIS SIDE HERE AND YOU HAVE AWNINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
HAVING AN AWNING RIGHT IN FRONT OVER THE ARM ENTRY.
WOULD THAT LOOK TOO CLUTTERED OR JUST ME? I THINK THAT GIVES A CLUTTER EFFECT.
THERE WASN'T ONE THERE AND THIS IS WHAT THEY ASKED ME TO DO.
I CAN SURELY SPEAK TO THE OWNER.
HE'S, AM I LOOKING, IS IT TOO, AM I, LIKE, IS IT A NUANCE HERE THAT I'M NOT, I THINK IT, IT COULD LOOK, YOU KNOW, JUST THE SAME WAY AS THE REST OF IT DOES.
I DON'T THINK IT'D BE TOO CLUTTERED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT MIGHT BE AN IDEA TO HAVE IT BECAUSE OF RAIN IS THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, STUART, ARE THERE TWO, ARE THERE TWO ENTRANCES? MEANING ONE, THERE'S ONE.
SO THERE'S ONE MAIN ENTRANCE AND THEN THERE'S THE WINDOWS ON THE SIDE.
AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE AWNINGS GOING DOWN.
SO THERE'S 1, 2, 3 ON THE SIDE.
MAYBE, MAYBE THE, PUTTING AN AWNING ON THE SIDE WHERE OVER THE WINDOW AND THEN KEEPING NO AWNING OVER THE DOOR WOULD DISTINGUISH WHERE THE DOOR IS.
MY, MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PHOTO IS IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE ELEVATION SHIFTS SLIGHTLY DOES WITH, WITH THE BUILDING FACADE.
SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE, YEAH, I THINK IT WILL GO UPHILL A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF THAT WITH BRACKETING.
SO I THINK THEY'RE PUTTING THE, THE LOGO IN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IN THE MIDDLE OF CORRECT.
AT AT ONE POINT THAT PROBABLY WAS AN ENTRANCE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CLOSED OFF NOW.
THEY'RE PUTTING HERE, THEY'RE PUTTING, YEAH, THEY'RE PUTTING THE, THE LOGO HERE.
OH, AWNING WOULD, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY DO THE SAME.
AWNING WOULD BE BELOW THE LOGO AND IT WOULD PROBABLY HIDE THE FRONT LOGO ALSO IF YOU PUT A AWNING ON THE FRONT.
SO LIZ'S POINT, I THINK BY HAVING NO AWNING THERE DESIGNATES THE ENTRANCE.
I THINKING LOOKS, LOOKS BETTER QUITE HONESTLY.
IF YOU WANT ONE OVER THE SIDE, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK EVEN OVER THE SIDE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT ELEVATION AS DYLAN SAID.
ALL THREE WARNINGS ARE A DIFFERENT ELEVATION ON THE SIDE.
AND I, YEAH, SHOWS IT IN THE PICTURE.
OH, IN THE PICTURE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY ARE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.
I THINK, OH, IS THAT, SO THAT'S ON THE SIDE.
I'D BE GLAD TO MAKE HIM ANOTHER AWNING.
I, I PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS IT THOUGH.
I THINK THAT ANOTHER AWNING IS JUST GONNA ELEVATE IT UP AGAIN.
I MEAN YES, IT'D BE STEP UP AGAIN.
I DON'T THINK, I THINK IT'S THE SAME 12 INCHES.
AND I THINK THIS REALLY SHOWCASES THE, THE LOGO.
FRANKLY, THOSE GOING EAST WILL NEED TO SEE THAT THOSE GOING WEST HAVE TO KNOW.
WE'LL SEE NOTHING UNTIL THEY HAVE TO WE'LL HAVE TO KNOW YOU'RE THERE
BUT IN THE WINTER TIME, THEY'LL SEE IT IN THE FALL A LITTLE BIT IN THE SPRINGTIME A LITTLE BIT.
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AND THAT'S WHERE LIKE, I WONDER, I WONDER IF, I WONDER WHEN THE LAST TIME THIS TREE WAS PRUNED AND IF THERE'S SOME, SOME DEBULKING THAT THAT COULD BE DONE.CAN I? THEY COULD TRIM IT, BUT IT'S GONNA GO BACK, YOU KNOW.
LIKE TO ME THE MOST IMPORTANT SIGN IS THAT SIDE SIGN.
BUT YOU WANT IT ON BOTH, BOTH THE SIDES.
AND FRANKLY, AFTER A MONTH PEOPLE WILL GO, WILL KNOW IT'S OPEN AND THE LOCALS WILL, BUT YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE VERY TRANSIENT THERE NOW.
YOU KNOW, WE DID THE WHEELCHAIR STORE AND HE HAS PEOPLE COME IN EVERY, EVERY WEEK SAY, OH, I'M SO GLAD YOU JUST OPENED TWO YEARS.
SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, TODAY PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY MOVING.
SO THERE'S GOTTA BE EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD.
WITH TODAY'S RENT AND INSURANCES,
WELL, WILL THE TOWN BE ABLE TO LIMIT THE KIND OF SIGNAGE AND NOT SHOW 69 CENTS A POUND, 39 CENTS, WHATEVER.
BUT WILL WE KEEP PRICING OUT OF THE WINDOWS? I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
SO THE TOWN, THE TOWN, THE TOWN CAN'T DICTATE HOW MUCH VISUAL CLUTTER IS IN THE WINDOWS.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SIGNAGE IN THE WINDOWS.
THEY CAN'T EXCEED 25% OF EACH WINDOW PANE.
BUT THEY WOULD NEED A SEPARATE PERMIT TO DO THAT.
I GUESS IS, IS THERE ANY PLANS TO PUT ANYTHING IN THE WINDOWS? I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION.
I GUESS THE OWNERS WOULD HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING I MAKE, SORRY.
AND THE, AND THE OWNER'S NOT HERE? NO.
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON ZOOM, BUT I GUESS HE DID NOT SIGN IN.
DOES HE, IS THERE A WAY TO CALL HIM? WAS UM, HIM ON THE PHONE? MAYBE SO YOU CAN, I I CAN TRY.
UH, OR YOU CAN JUST PUT SOMETHING IN THE MINUTES THAT NOT TO EXCEED 25% OF A PAN OF GLASS.
BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY, BUT TYPICALLY IF SOMETHING'S BEING PUT IN THE WINDOW, WE, WE WOULD REVIEW THAT SO WELL THEY MIGHT.
SO, SO THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT UNLESS THE OWNER AFFIRMATIVELY SAYS SOMETHING'S GONNA BE IN THE WINDOW, THEN IT'S GONNA BE A, A CLEAR WINDOW GROCERY STORE.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE SO PUT, WE COULD PUT IN THE DECISION THAT ANY FUTURE SIGNAGE WOULD HAVE TO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR.
THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
EVERY, IT MIGHT BE CLEAR FOR HIM JUST TO UNDERSTAND.
JUST HIM GET ON THE PHONE FOR A MINUTE AND SAY, I, I AGREE.
IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS NOW WOULD BE GREAT.
NOW IT, IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR HIM IN THE FUTURE.
YOUR CONCERN IS THE WHAT'S ON SALE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, A PHARMACY OPEN OR WHATEVER.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN THEY'RE RAISING.
I DON'T RESTRICT ONE PERSON AND NOT RESTRICT EVERY GROCERY STORE.
EVERY EVERYBODY EVERY GROCERY STORE WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION HAS TOP TO BOTTOM, LEFT TO RIGHT WINDOWS COVERED WITH, WE MEAN SALE ITEMS. SO TO RESTRICT THE GUY THAT'S TRYING TO BRING SOMETHING GOOD TO THE TOWN.
BUT BUT THERE'S A SPECIFIC DESIGN STANDARD WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS A SEPARATE DISTRICT STEW.
SO IT'S TREATED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S JUST MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE FOR HIM TO KNOW GOING IN.
LIKE ONCE WE GET TO HARTS BARRY, LIKE THE, THE WINDOW IS, IS CLEARLY OUTLINED.
WHAT, WHAT WILL BE ON THERE? CAESAR'S? IT'S STU I'M HERE AT THE MEETING AND I HAVE YOU ON SPEAKERPHONE.
I GUESS YOU DIDN'T SIGN INTO THE MEETING.
OH, LET ME, YEAH, I'VE BEEN SWAMPED TODAY.
DO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WINDOW SIGNS? GIMME ONE.
DO WE HAVE ANY KINDA DECISION ON WHETHER THOSE OTHER TWO AWNINGS ARE GONNA BE WANTED NECESSARY? NOT NECESSARY.
SO I, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO INVOLVE HIM.
THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED.
HOW ARE WE ALL DOING? DOING WELL.
WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO PUT IN THE WINDOWS? UM, WELL, I MEAN I DEFER TO STUART THERE.
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MEAN, AS FAR AS WHAT THE ACTUAL COVERAGE THAT WE CAN DO ON THE WINDOWS.I DON'T PLAN ON COVERING THE WHOLE WINDOWS 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU GUYS.
UM, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE WINDOWS? 25%.
25% OF ANY PANE OF GLASS IS ALLOWED TO BE USED FOR ADVERTISING PURPOSES OR COVERED.
WELL, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, ON THE WINDOW RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING.
SO WE DON'T PLAN ON COVERING ALL THE WINDOWS OBVIOUSLY.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T, AND WE WOULDN'T DO IT ANYWAY.
'CAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE INTO THE STORE AS THEY WALK BY.
UM, WE WERE PLANNING ON, UH, PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE WINDOWS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, NOT VERY BUSY.
JUST MAYBE SLIGHTLY STORE HOURS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME NICE GRAPHIC DESIGN THAT WOULD, UH, LOOK GOOD AND, YOU KNOW, GO WITH A SUPERMARKET AND FRESH GROCERIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WOULD, WOULD THE DESIGNS ROTATE OR WOULD THERE BE LIKE INFORMATION SWAPPED IN AND OUT? OR WOULD IT BE FIXED ONCE YOU INSTALL IT? NO, IT WOULD, WE WOULD, IT WOULD BE FIXED AND WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NICE AND IF IT GETS FADED BY THE SUN, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY SWITCH IT UP.
BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE LIKE PRICES THAT MIGHT FLUCTUATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PUTTING NO, NO, NO, NO.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON PUTTING AVOCADOS 25% OFF.
AS FAR AS FOR SALES SIGNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, NO, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
SO WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGEST SAYING IS THAT THE, THE HOURS OF OPERATION DON'T REQUIRE A, A SIGN PERMIT THAT'S INFORMATIONAL.
UM, THAT BE ON THE DOOR THOUGH? THAT COULD BE ON THE DOOR.
UM, WE WOULD ASK TO, UM, OVER ON THE, THE TWO CORNERS, IF YOU COULD JUST PUT THE ADDRESS OF THE, THE BUSINESS OVER THE FRONT DOOR.
AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PUT IT ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE OF THE TREES, SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN SEE IT.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE WINDOW SIGNS, YOU SAID, UM, IT'S GONNA BE FIXED.
IS IT GOING TO BE AN IMAGE? IS IT GOING TO BE LOGO? IS IT GOING TO JUST, UM, BE A DESIGN? BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER A PERMIT IS REQUIRED OR NOT.
IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF GRAPHIC, WHAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A PERMIT, A PICTURE OF FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, DOES THAT REQUIRE A PERMIT? ANYTHING THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE, UM, A TRACTION THE WAY THE CODE IS? IT'S VERY BROAD STEW.
YOU COULD DRIVE A A TRUCK THROUGH THAT ONE, BUT YEAH, I, WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHAT, IT WON'T BE OFFENSIVE.
NO, I, HE'S GOT SEVERAL OTHER STORES AND THEY'RE ALL CLASS ACTS AND HE'S TRYING TO FOLLOW.
DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
HOW YOUR OTHER STOREFRONTS LOOK SO WE COULD JUST SEE IT.
UM, CAESAR, UM, ARE YOU IN ONE OF YOUR STORES NOW? SURE.
LET ME, YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD PUT IT ON HERE.
LIKE I COULD SHOW YOU THE FACADE OF, CAN JUST PULL UP A GOOGLE MAP AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, CAESAR, WHAT'S YOUR OTHER STORE'S LOCATION? YEAH.
WOULD YOU GUYS WANNA LOOK IT UP ONLINE? SURE.
UM, SO LET'S SAY WE LOOK, UH, THE ONE THAT, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK ONE UP THAT'S MOST SIMILAR TO THE FACADE THAT WE HAVE THERE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK UP, UH, 1 0 2 14 30 SEVENTH AVENUE.
AND THAT WOULD BE IN CORONA, NEW YORK.
WE MIGHT SAY JACKSON HIGH TO CORONA OR QUEENS.
SO GOOGLE EARTH HAS A, A PRETTY RECENT PHOTO OF, OF THAT STORE.
AND GRANTED, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU DOUBLE CLICK THAT IMAGE? THE, SORRY, CAN YOU DOUBLE CLICK THE IMAGE? UH, SORRY.
YOU SAID IT'S 1 0 2 14 20 SEVENTH AVENUE.
YEAH, HE HAS A, NO, I'M SORRY.
HOW ABOUT THAT? CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT? OH, THERE YOU ARE.
IS IT KEY, LIZ? THIS IS KEY FOOD.
THE SIGNS YOU HAVE UP ARE DIGITAL, IS THAT RIGHT? THERE'S TWO.
WELL, WE HAVE, AGAIN, WAS IT JUST THE, JUST
IF YOU WANT ME TO, LET ME JUST GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICK.
SO THIS STORE HAS THREE DIGITAL SIGNS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE REST ARE ACTUAL FIXED SIGNAGE.
NOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE QUEENS FIXTURES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH
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WE WOULD FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, THE CODE IN HARTSDALE.AND OBVIOUSLY HARTSDALE IS GONNA BE, IT'S A MORE UPSCALE CLIENTELE, SO IT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
BUT YOU CAN SEE AS FAR AS IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, WE DO A NICE JOB, WE MAKE SURE IT LOOKS NICE.
UH, THE SECOND FLOOR IS RENTED OUT, SO THAT'S NOT US.
BUT FROM THE SIGN DOWN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NICE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE MAINTAIN IT.
WE MAKE IT LOOK AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO COVER THE WHOLE THING.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE INTO THE STORE.
SO, SO YOUR INTENTION WOULDN'T BE TO PUT ANY DIGITAL BOARDS? NO.
UM, AND SO THE, THE GRAPHIC THAT'S ON THE THIRD WINDOW TO THE RIGHT, THAT'S TAKING UP THE WHOLE WINDOW, THERE'D BE A SIMILAR DESIGN THAT WOULD ONLY TAKE 25% BASED ON OUR CODE? LET ME ASK.
IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GONNA BE THAT EXACT DESIGN, BUT YOU COULD GET A GIST OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE WOULD PUT ON THOSE WINDOWS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ANY, IT'S STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT A, IF WE PROHIBIT HIM PUTTING UP A DIGITAL SIGN AT ALL, IT'S NOT, I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T WANT, WHICH WE DON'T DO ANYMORE.
PUTTING UP THOSE PAPER SIGNS AND THEN TAPE AND IT LOOKS UGLY AND DIRTY.
WE DON'T DO, WOULD WE PERMIT A SMALLER DIGITAL SIGN OR NO DIGITAL SIGN? NO DIGITAL.
CAN I, CAN I MAKE, CAN I ASK IF, IF YOU DO A DIGITAL, UH, UH, NOT DIGITAL, A BAND OF THE FRUITS AND LOGOS AND THAT GOES ACROSS ALL THE WINDOWS, KEEPING IT SMALLER, YOU WON'T HAVE ONE WINDOW THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, GLARING AND THE OTHER'S BLANK.
SO IF YOU DO A BANDING AND YOU COULD SEE ABOVE IT AND BELOW IT TO SEE WHAT'S IN THE STORE, THAT WOULD BE VERY NICE.
WELL, YEAH, THAT'S OUR, UH, INTENTION IS NOT TO COVER THE WINDOW OR NOT TO COVER ONE WINDOW AND LEAVE.
WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ON THE BOTTOM AND THEN LEAVE THE TOP OPEN SO YOU CAN SEE INTO THE STORE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE, UH, SOME GRAPHICS ON THE BOTTOM PART OF THE WINDOW.
AND AGAIN, THE, I WOULD REITERATE WE HAVE STORES IN ALL DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, SO IT REALLY, WE GO BY WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO BY WHEREVER WE'RE AT.
SO THIS STORES IN CORONA AND THEY REALLY, NEW YORK CITY ITSELF DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS MM-HMM
ON WHAT YOU CAN DO AS FAR AS COVERINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE THAT WE'RE VERY MEASURED IN HOW WE COVER ALL THE WINDOWS AND MAKE SURE IT LOOKS GOOD.
WE HAVE A STORE, JERSEY CITY, WHERE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S A HISTORICAL DISTRICT, SO IT'S GONNA BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.
SO IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TAILORED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.
AND WHAT WE'RE, ARE AND AREN'T ALLOWED TO DO.
YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TOWN.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL FOR ALL OF US TO GET ALONG, OBVIOUSLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY.
YEAH, WE JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU WROTE DOWN SO THAT IT'S GOING TO GO INTO A MEMO.
UH, SO WE HAVE, UM, AS DRAWN SUMMARIZES IT, UH, TO ADD THE ADDRESS OVER THE DOORS AND ON THE CORNER WINDOW.
UH, NO DIGITAL SIGNAGE, UH, AND NO SIGNAGE COVERING MORE THAN 25% OF EACH WINDOW PANE AS PER CODE.
UM, CAN I INTERRUPT? WE JUST SAID THE BEND WOULD BE OKAY OR NOT.
IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN 25% BAND, DIGITAL BAND WOULD BE OKAY.
IF THERE IS A PREFERENCE FOR A BAND, IF, AND HE WANTS TO SIGN A DIGITAL BAND.
A VINYL, YOU KNOW, REVERSE BAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT, I BELIEVE WAS, WAS SIX OR EIGHT INCHES TALL ON THE BOTTOM OF THE WINDOWS.
I MEAN, THESE DAYS MOST PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IN.
WANT TO SEE IT'S SAFE TO WALK IN, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND SECONDLY, OH, THEY HAVE A GOOD SELECTION AND THEY WALK IN.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, I, I WAS AT THAT STORE AND I WAS AT ONE OF THOSE OTHER STORES IN MANHATTAN.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN.
UM, THE SCIENTIST PROPOSE TO BE BACK LIT.
THE CHANNEL LETTER IS FACE LIT AND THE TWO LOGO SIGNS ARE FACE LIT AND HALO LIT.
I BELIEVE IT SAYS IT RIGHT ON THE DRAWING.
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IT'S FRONT AND BACK LIT.AND THE BACK IS JUST GONNA BE LIKE A, A WHITE CLOUD ALMOST.
AND HOW IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MOVEMENTS? AND HOW BRIGHT IS THIS? IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER? I'M SURE THERE IS, RIGHT? BUT WHAT IT, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS? NO, IT DON'T WANT IT BE BRIGHT OVER.
I DON'T WANT IT, IT'LL NOT BE OVERWHELMING, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE BRIGHTER THAN THE OTHER SIGNS ON THE STREET.
WELL, I DID THE SIGN FOR THE WHEELCHAIR GUYS, SO THAT'S THE BRIGHTEST SIGN ON THE STREET AND IT LOOKS GREAT.
I HAD SOMEBODY FROM HERE COMPLIMENTED ME ON IT THAT IT WAS SO BRIGHT.
OH, MAYBE, MAYBE WE DIDN'T PUT A RESTRICTION IN THERE.
IF IT'S THE BRIGHTEST ONE ON THE STREET.
UM, AND, AND IS THERE A TIMER TO ENSURE THAT IT'S CLOSED AFTER THE STORE CLOSES? ONE HOUR AFTER CLOSING IS WHAT I TOLD THE ELECTRICIAN AS AN HOUR OR HALF HOUR HALF.
SO IT'S GONNA BE ON A HALF HOUR LONGER THAN
MOST TOWNS ARE WITHIN TWO HOURS OF CLOSING.
WELL, BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T, CAN'T HOUR.
I CAN, I CAN TURN THE DIAL
YEAH, WE COULD PUT THE SIGN ON A TIMER.
YEAH, I, I TOLD MARK ABOUT THAT ALREADY.
CAESAR, ARE YOU IN HARTSDALE NOW? NO, NO.
I'M IN, I'M IN CORONA RIGHT NOW.
WELL, YOU COULD GIMME A CALL IF YOU WANT AFTER YOU GET OUT OF THERE.
NO, WE'LL TALK, WE'LL TALK NEXT WEEK.
ARE WE DOING HARTS FAILURE OR ARE WE DONE? UH, DO A MOTION FOR, UH, HEART SALE MARKETPLACE.
UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SIGN WITH THE CONDITIONS AS CONDITIONED SECOND.
WE HOPE TO OPEN AS SOON AS WE CAN.
UM, DO YOU SEE THE APPLICATION FOR SHIFT TO THE
YEAH, WE
UH, MICHAEL, ARE YOU ON? THANK YOU.
UH, WOULD YOU ABLE TO QUICKLY WALK US THROUGH THE CHANGES TO THE HARTSBURG DELL AND GRILL? YEAH, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN QUICKLY.
UM, AND, UM, GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
CAN YOU GUYS SEE EVERYTHING? YES.
SO, UM, QUICKLY GOING THROUGH THE, UM, THE POINTS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, UH, LET'S START WITH THE SIGN ITSELF.
UM, THE, UH, CUT, UH, FLAT CUT ACRYLIC LETTERS, UH, SPELLING HEARTS, VERY DELI AND GRILL.
I MEAN, NOTHING HAS CHANGED THERE.
UH, STILL FLAT CUT ACRYLIC, UH, WITH THE, UH, HEIGHT OF THE LETTERS AS INDICATED.
SO THE H BEING EIGHT, THE D IN DELHI BEING 11.
UH, ONE THING TO THAT, THAT WAS THERE BEFORE, SO THERE WAS REALLY NOT ANYTHING, UM, TO BE CHANGED OR COMMENTED ON.
UH, FIRST POINT WAS ILLUMINATION.
UM, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT PROVIDING OR INSTALLING THOSE, BUT WE ADDED, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PRESENTATION, THREE GOOSENECKS LIGHTS.
UM, THE CONNECTORS, THE CONNECTION BOXES ARE ALREADY THERE FROM THE PREVIOUS TENANT.
SO, UM, MY TENANT, UH, MY TENANT, MY CLIENT WILL, UH, GET THESE TYPE OF, UH, UM, BLACK DARK GRAY GOOSENECKS AND, UH, WILL INSTALL ONTO THE EXISTING CONNECTORS.
UM, AND AS I SAID, BECAUSE THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT BRIGHTNESS, ET CETERA, UM, WE ARE NOT INSTALLING PRO PROVIDING NOR INSTALLING, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS AN EMAIL THE OTHER, I THINK YESTERDAY EXPLAINING, UM, ABOUT THE, UH, THE BRIGHTNESS.
UM, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, THEY ARE ON A TIMER AND WILL BE SWITCHED OFF.
TURNED OFF OBVIOUSLY HALF AN HOUR AFTER CLOSING, UH, AS PER CODE IN, IN THE HARSDALE.
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THAT WAS NUMBER ONE.THE, UM, THE ILLUMINATION, ANOTHER ONE, NUMBER TWO WERE THE LETTERS, UH, THE STREET NUMBER 180 1.
THAT WAS, UH, SOMEWHAT HARD TO READ.
UM, AND WE WILL INSTALL, UH, 180 1 IN, UH, UM, CUT LETTERS RIGHT ON TOP OF THE DOOR.
YOU SEE THE INDICATED THERE ON THIS METAL BAND THAT, UH, FRAMES DOOR AND WINDOWS ABOUT SIX INCHES TALL.
THAT WAS NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE.
UH, AS THE, UH, UM, QUESTION ABOUT, UM, ANYTHING ON THE WINDOWS AND THE DOOR, UH, WE PLACED RIGHT NOW, UH, I MEAN DEFINITELY LESS THAN 25%, BUT A FEW, UH, UH, BANDS, A FEW CUT LETTERS IN TERMS OF, UH, PRODUCTS, UM, UH, AND ITEMS OFFERED.
UM, AT THE DELI, UH, THE DOOR ONLY HAS A LOGO ABOUT 30 INCHES IN DIAMETER, ALMOST, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LESS, DEPENDING ON, WE HAVE TO FIT IT INTO THE GLASS, WHICH IS USUALLY JUST ABOVE 30 INCHES IN DIAMETER.
BUT, UH, THE VISUAL REPRESENTATION IS CERTAINLY ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
UM, AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, UH, FRONT ENTRANCE.
THE, THE, THE, THE FLOORING, THOSE RED, UM, BURNED ORANGE TILES, I THINK UP TO THIS DAY ARE EXTENDING ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
UH, AND WE ARE SHOWING, UH, THE WORK THAT WILL BE DONE IN ORDER TO, UH, UM, EVEN THAT UP AND LET THOSE ORANGE, RED TILES OBVIOUSLY END WITH THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THOSE WERE THE ITEMS THAT I REMEMBER.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS ALSO SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, SOME LIKE WIRING OR A PROTRUSION ON THE DOOR ON LEFT SIDE OF THE DOOR.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA BRING UP.
THAT, UH, I, AS I SAID, UM, I, YEAH, WE ARE THE SIGN COMPANY.
WHAT, WHATEVER THAT THAT WAS OR WHATEVER THERE IS.
SO IN YOUR SUBMISSION, YOU DO SHOW THAT BEING REMOVED WHERE WHICH ONE? TO, TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE DOOR.
TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE DOOR? YEAH.
WELL, OH, YOU MEAN YOU MEAN ON HERE? ON THIS PART? YES.
THERE WAS A LITTLE, UH, UH, A SMALL BLADE SIGN OR SOMETHING THAT WILL BE REMOVED.
THAT WAS A LEFTOVER FROM THE, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS TENANT.
THAT WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAD SEEN IN THE PICTURE THAT I HAD SHOWN WAS JUST, UH, SHADOWS.
BUT WHAT WAS, THERE WAS A VERY SMALL TYPE OF BLADE SIGN.
AND THE, THE 180 1 WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT HERE AS WELL, WILL BE REMOVED AND WE'LL PUT IT VERY VISIBLE UP THERE.
SO THERE IS NO AWNING PLANS FOR THIS FACADE? SORRY? NO AWNING PLANS.
AWNING WAS NEVER IN, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN THE CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, THERE WAS NEVER ANY DISCUSSION, NOT EVEN A QUESTION, A SUGGESTION.
SO THE WORD AWNINGS WITH RESPECT TO THIS STOREFRONT, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I HEAR THIS, BUT IT'S NOT PLANNED.
IT WAS THERE, THERE WAS NEVER AN AWNING THERE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
AND, UM, THERE IS, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO PUT AN AWNING THERE.
AND, AND THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT BROKEN UP NOW AND WHITE, IS THAT GONNA BE PAINTED ALL GRAY? UM, THAT'S A DOOR.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A DOOR.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN DETAIL BEFORE.
IS THAT A DOOR? CAN YOU CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS A DOOR? 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS THERE, THERE IS A DOOR ON OUTSIDE SIDE.
THERE IS, WE DID A GOOGLE SEARCH AT THE LAST TIME AND WE SAW THAT IT WAS A DOOR.
DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE PAINTED.
IS THE OWNER ON UH, YES, I'M HERE, MOHAMMED.
WE CAN'T SEE YOU REALLY WELL, BUT IT'S, I THINK THAT'S YOUR CAMERA.
SO CAN YOU COMMENT ON, UH, ON PAINTING THE SITE HERE OF, OF THE BUILDING? UH, YEAH.
WE WILL BE PAINTING, UM, ON THE SIDE.
SHE'LL BE PAINTING IT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAW, BUT THE LAW DOESN'T.
SHE'S GONNA PAINT IT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAW, BUT THERE IS NO LAW REGARDING WE HAVE TO DO A CONDITION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIDE, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUILDING.
IT HAS TO BE LAW THAT PAINTED THE SIDE THE SAME COLOR? NO, NO, NO, NO.
THAT SAYS WHAT COLOR IT SHOULD BE.
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OKAY.SO THE, THE QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU CONSIDER PAINTING IT WHITE OR REFRESHING THE WHITE OR PAINTING IT THE SAME COLOR AS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING? UH, WE'LL BE REFRESHING.
I THINK THIS WAS ON, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE PERSON WHO SPOKE LAST? R-O-W-A-I-D.
WHAT'S HER FIRST NAME? WHAT'S YOUR FIRST NAME? H RO UH, MY FIRST NAME IS HALA.
THE SAME COMMENT THAT I HAD ON THE LAST ONE IS I DON'T THINK THE, THE LUMENS OR THE INTENSITY OF THE LIGHT ON THE BUILDING SHOULD BE, UM, ANY GREATER THAN THE NEARBY, UM, SIGNAGE ON OTHER BUILDINGS.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SHOULD NOT NOT BE BLAIRS.
WHAT'S THAT? WAS, WAS THIS THE ONE WHERE I THINK MATT, I THINK YOU SENT AN EMAIL SAYING YEAH, EACH FIXTURE IS APPROXIMATELY 4,550 LUMENS.
THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED AND THEY'RE USING A WARM WHITE SETTING.
IT SHOULD BE RELATIVE TO, THAT'S THE QUESTION.
LIKE WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE LUMENS AT THE OTHER BUILDINGS? AND THEN IF, IF WE SET A STANDARD, THEN WE JUST CONDITION IT EVERY TIME.
I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD LEAVE THE LAST APPLICANT SAYS, HEY, WE GOT THE BRIGHTEST ONE.
YOU KNOW, BUT THAT IS, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE NEIGHBORING ONE? RIGHT, RIGHT.
WE SETTING A STANDARD STANDARD.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO IT'LL LEAD ONTO OTHERS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY HAS A LIGHT METER, WE YEAH.
LET FINISH IT SHOULD BE EASY TO DO.
SO AS FAR AS THAT, UM, THE ENTRYWAY WITH THE ORANGE BRICK, ARE YOU, YOU'RE MOVING, I KNOW THAT WAS A LITTLE SHADY BEFORE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
AM I LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT OR NOT BETTER PICTURE? THEY TOOK CARE OF IT.
WELL THE OTHER ONE, IT STUCK OUT INTO THE SIDEWALK.
YEAH, I THINK THEY SHAVED IT BACK.
YEAH, I THINK THEY'VE, THEY'VE CUT IT OUT IN THIS THANK YOU.
I, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS CONDITIONED.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY NICE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE MEETING OF THE HCRC.