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TO OUR TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.TODAY IS MARCH 31ST AT FIVE 30, AND THE FIRST IS, UM, HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
NO, I'M JUST ASKING, UH, WHO'S DOING UPDATE? UH, CJ IS ANYONE ON, UH, ZOOM? UH, LET'S SEE.
SO I'M TRYING TO THINK IF, WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS HE'S ON CJ.
HOW ARE YOU? YEAH, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A, PUT YOUR CAMERA ON IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD GIVE US A, UH, AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE? UH, SURE.
I ARD DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER TOWN GREENBERG, UH, ON THE CALL WITH ME, UH, JASON DE PAUL, THE TOWN ENGINEER, AND OUR ARI AND JOE AWAL.
UM, THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE DESIGN AND THE APPLICATION TO THE, THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UH, I'LL, I'LL TURN OVER TO THEM, BUT BASICALLY WE ARE WRAPPING UP THE, THE, THE HEALTH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPLICATION, AND SOME FINAL COMMENTS THAT WE GOT FROM, UM, THE, THE BUILDINGS CONSULTANT AND SOME THAT JASON AND I PROVIDED.
UM,
THIS IS
HE MET BACK IN, UH, JANUARY, UH, IN PERSON.
UH, AT THAT TIME WE HAD, UH, SUBMITTED, UH, I A 60% LEVEL DESIGN.
SO, UM, WE HAVE FINISHED THE 1% DESIGN AND GIVEN IT TO, AND GAVE IT TO THE ENGINEER ON
AND THEY PROVIDED US WITH, UH, SOME COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, ADDRESSED, UH, COMPLETED ADDRESSING THEM ON THE
AND WE BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE READY, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, UH, FOR SUBMITTAL TO THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, UH, AND, UH, YEAH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, SO BASICALLY, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UM, SHOULD HAVE THE APPLICATION LIKE NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE SO C RIGHT? YEAH.
IF WE, IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO US BY FRIDAY, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET 'EM TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
IF, MAYBE EVEN IF YOU GET 'EM TO US EARLY ENOUGH ON FRIDAY, WE CAN GET THEM TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON FRIDAY.
UM, IF PEOPLE, UM, ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TAKEN SO LONG, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW COME ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS THAT WE HAD TO GET APPROVALS FROM THE MANAGEMENT OF A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT, IS THAT POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THE DELAYS? IT IS ONE OF THE FACTORS.
THEY HAD TO AGREE TO OUR MEAN, YOU KNOW, TO OUR DITCH.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT BUILDING IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE EXCAVATIONS AND ALL OF THE, UH, INTRUSIVE WORK THAT WILL BE DONE.
UM, AND, UM, ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKEN LIKE TWO YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER TWO YEARS, HOW COME IT'S, YOU KNOW, BY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SUCH A, A LONG PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND TO, YOU KNOW, THOSE CONCERNS WHEN PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT TO US? UH, OUR WOULD ANSWER WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ANSWER THAT WE PROVIDED BACK IN JANUARY, WHICH IS, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO WHEN DEVELOPING SUCH A DESIGN.
NUMBER ONE AND UTMOST IMPORTANCE OF THE SAFETY OF THE, UH, EXCAVATIONS AND THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS, AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, UH, PROVIDED BY THOSE ENTITIES HAVE BEEN, UH, ADDRESSED.
AND NUMBER TWO, WE ARE CONNECTING TO,
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UH, A MANHOLE OR BASICALLY A FACILITY FROM A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE THAT HAS EXPERIENCED A LEVEL OF FAILURE.AND IN THIS CASE, THE DESIGN BECOMES MORE COMPLEX, SO IT TAKES MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE FACTORS HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR.
SO THAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND IT.
TAKING A LITTLE BIT, UH, OF TIME.
WE STARTED THE DESIGN BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
WE FINISH IT NOW, UH, I WOULD SAY IN MARCH.
SO IT'S A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS IN TERMS OF PRODUCING THOSE PLANETS.
SO I, I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND WE ALSO HAD HIRED A, A SECOND CONSULTING FIRM THAT DID AN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS, AND THEY BASICALLY SAID THAT THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING IS CORRECT, CORRECT? YES.
IN TERMS OF THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, DO WE HAVE, LIKE ANY ESTIMATES HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE, AND DO YOU THINK THAT, UM, WE, UM, WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO, UM, EITHER THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATORS AND ASK THEM, UM, IF THEY COULD ASK THE COUNTY TO GIVE THIS, UM, HIGH PRIORITY ATTENTION? UH, I, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO FIRST, UM, TRY TO, UH, EXHAUST KIND OF, UH, UH, A STAFF TO STAFF, UH, COMMUNICATION AND, AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE COLLEAGUES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SMALL INDUSTRY SOMETIMES BEFORE WE ESCALATE AND, YOU KNOW, STEPPING ON TOES OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
LET'S, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO THIS, UM, AT A STAFF LEVEL.
AND IF, IF WE NEED TO ESCALATE, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY CAN, BUT I THINK MAYBE IT'S MORE PRUDENT TO START AT THE, AT THE, AT THE, THE STAFF LEVEL.
AND THEN WE GO, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO BIDDY AFTER, AFTER THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVES IT.
SO THE, AND THE LAST QUESTION, I'M SORRY.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, I GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, UM, IS ONCE THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UM, APPROVES IT, LET'S SAY IT TAKES A MONTH OR WHATEVER, THEN WE GO OUT TO BID.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WOULD YOU THINK IS A REASONABLE TIME, UH, WHEN THE WORK COULD START? SO I THINK AT THAT STAGE, IT COULD BE, UM, MID TO LATE SUMMER, IF YOU HAVE SOME TIME FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT REVIEW, YOU HAVE SOME TIME FOR BIDDING, YOU HAVE SOME TIME FOR EXECUTING, SIGNING THE CONTRACTS.
THOSE, THOSE DO TAKE SOME TIME.
SO WE COULD BE INTO LIKE, YEAH, JULY OR AUGUST BEFORE YOU'RE ACTUALLY BREAKING GROUND.
UH, FROM A MEETING TODAY, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUT THE BONDING ISSUE AND WHETHER OR NOT SEEKER NEEDS TO BE REDONE.
AND IF SO, WE NEED TO GET MOVING ON THAT VERY QUICKLY, EVEN THOUGH WE DID SEEKER ON THIS ALREADY.
UH, APPARENTLY THERE'S, UM, ONE TRAIN OF THOUGHT THAT SAYS THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT TO BOND, AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE SEEKER, BUT WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE, THE, UH, LEGALITY AND LOGISTICS OF THAT.
SO WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE IF WE NEED IT.
SO, CJ, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SO WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE, THIS PLAN THAT WE'RE APPROACHING, THAT'S THE BEST PLAN.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER BEEN REALLY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A DIFFERENT COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
SO THIS IS THE BEST PLAN GOING FORWARD.
AND THAT WAS, THAT, THAT IS, UH, STATED IN A REPORT BY COLLIERS, OUR DESIGN AND A DESIGN ENGINEER.
UH, AS PART OF THE, THE PROCESS OF GETTING, WE WENT FOR A GRANT AND THROUGH THE STATE, AND YOU HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER AN ENGINEERING REPORT AND EVALUATE OPTIONS.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE, AT, AT THE BOARD'S REQUEST, WE, WE ALSO HAD THE THIRD PARTY CON, THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT ALSO LOOK AT, AT ALTERNATIVES.
AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE SAME, THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT THE, THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT IS THE, IS THE BEST OPTION, LONG AND SHORT TERM, UH, FACTORING IN SAFETY AND IMPACT TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND, AND LONG TERM COST.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT QUESTION COMES UP A LOT, SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE.
YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.
I THINK YOU'RE WORKING REALLY HARD AND APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, YOUR REPORT.
NEXT, UH, WE HAVE A BRIGHT VIEW UPDATE WITH JASON.
GINA, DO YOU NEED A, I NEED SLEEP.
YEAH, WE, WE SENT YOU THE UPDATE EARLIER TODAY.
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UM, YOU GUYS ALL GOT THAT RIGHT? BLESS YOU.WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW, UH, JOE AT 1130 WITH, UM, UH, RESIDENTS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PON SIDE.
UM, SO ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WHO WANTS TO ATTEND, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.
AND, AND, UM, THE QUESTION, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE IS, UM, WHEN IS THE MEETING IT TOMORROW AT 1130 TOMORROW? WHAT'S INVITE FOR THAT? WHAT? I'M SORRY.
IS IT ON ZOOM? NO, THAT'S IN PERSON.
I, I DON'T THINK AN INVITE WAS SENT OUT FOR THAT.
I DON'T YEAH, JOE, GENERALLY THAT WAS, I DON'T THINK ANYONE CIRCULATED AN INVITE, BUT WE DID ALL CONFIRM VIA EMAIL.
UM, AND THE ONE ISSUE THAT I HAD, AND I EMAILED YOU EARLIER, UH, YOU KNOW, TODAY, UM, WAS, UM, MICHELLE, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE BASICALLY SENT US PHOTOS OF, UM, LIKE A LOT OF DIRT AT NEAR DOSTER ROAD, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BRIGHTVIEW SITE.
AND, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS CONCERNED THAT IF THERE WAS RAIN FORECAST THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DIRT COULD SEEP INTO THE ROAD AND, AND THE EROSION FROM, YOU KNOW, COULD IMPACT, UH, YOU KNOW, PONCY.
AND I'M WONDERING, UM, WHY THAT WOULD NOT BE A VIOLATION.
SO THOSE, THE, THE PICTURES THAT WERE SENT TO THE TOWN TODAY WERE OF STANDARD STOCKPILES.
THEY HAVE STANDARD EROSION CONTROL MEASURES AROUND THEM, AND THE CONTRACTOR IS, THEY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE IT BY NOW.
UM, TARPED PUT BIG PLASTIC TARPS OVER THOSE SOCK SOIL STOCKPILE AREAS TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE RAIN, AND THEY, THEY SHOULD BE GONE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.
UM, SO THERE'S, RIGHT NOW NO VIOLATIONS, RIGHT? WELL, THEY, THEY STILL HAVE THE, THE ONLY THING LEFT O OPEN IN THE VIOLATION IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA REGRADE A, A SWALE.
UM, AND THE DC HAS MENTIONED THAT AS WELL.
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO THAT FILE, HOW LONG IS THE CORRECTIVE ACTION GONNA TAKE FOR THAT? FOR, FOR THAT ITEM? THE, THE, THE DESIGN ENGINEER SENT US SOMETHING TODAY AT LIKE FIVE O'CLOCK.
SO, UM, WE'LL REVIEW IT TOMORROW AND GET MOVING ON IT.
SO I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW AND THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO, I'M JUST SEEING THIS NOW, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK.
WHAT IS THE EXPECTED TAKEAWAY OF TOMORROW'S MEETING? WELL, IT'S JUST, WE BASICALLY, THE, THE RESIDENTS SHOWED UP AT THE MEETING, UH, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING.
SO THIS IS A FOLLOW UP MEETING.
AND WHAT'S THE TAKEAWAY? THE TAKE, THE TAKEAWAY IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TELL THEM, UH, WE'LL GIVE THEM AN UPDATED STATUS.
UM, THEY HAD, UM, YOU MEAN JUST WHAT WE HEARD NOW, WILL BRIGHTVIEW PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY HEAR, AND IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WILL BRIGHTVIEW REPRESENTATIVES BE THERE? UH, DID WE INVITE BRIGHTVIEW? I THINK, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
TOGETHER, SUPERVISOR? OH, I THINK I'VE, I'VE NOTIFIED, I THINK I'VE NOTIFIED BRIGHTVIEW.
WELL, IT'S ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT? AND METROPOLIS, BECAUSE METROPOLIS APPARENTLY IS RIGHT.
I'VE, I'VE NOT, I THINK WE'VE NOTIFIED, UH, METROPOLIS AND BRIGHTVIEW, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, ANYTHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONLY A FOLLOW UP MEETING.
WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE CRYSTAL FOLLOW UP AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE, UH, OF METROPOLIS GOING TO BE THERE? UH, I'LL, I'LL CHECK.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT APPEAR TO BE INVITED.
WELL, WE COULD, WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE A SECOND MEETING NEED.
SO, WE'LL, SO I, SO IF YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS GONNA HEAR IF THE TWO PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT INVITED TO THE MEETING? WELL, THEY, THEY ASKED FOR THE MEETING WITH TOWN STAFF, BUT WE, THE THING IS, OKAY, BUT DAVID STEINITZ IS ON THIS AS WELL.
UM, I I, I, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I, I SENTENCED DAVID.
I'M NOT YOU DID, BUT I'M NOT SEEING, UH, ANY, THE METROPOLIS, I DIDN'T HAVE A, A, A CONTACT, BUT I DID, I, I KNOW THAT I'VE, I'M NOT REFERRING TO THAT EMAIL CHAIN.
I'M REFERRING TO THE EMAIL CHAIN SCHEDULING THE MEETING.
AND I DON'T SEE DAVID EVER ON THERE.
BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTIFIED HIM SEPARATELY.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING, YOUR OFFER, DO YOU HAVE CONTACTS WITH METROPOLIS? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MAYBE JUST LET THEM KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE TOMORROW OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE A SECOND MEETING.
WE COULD HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH RESIDENTS OF UPON SITE AND, AND OUR ENGINEERS.
AND IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING, IF THEY FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH, AGAIN, WITH BRIGHTVIEW AND, UM, AND WITH, WELL LET, SPEAKING TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AT SCI, THEY DO, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH BOTH.
SO I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY, I'M NOT SAYING YOU CANCELED A MEETING.
YOU, YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S IN A ROOM HERE.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE TO HEAR THE SAME THING.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE SEPARATE MEETINGS.
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EVERYBODY'S IN THE ROOM AND HEAR THE SAME THING.BUT PON SIDE RESIDENTS ARE VERY, UM, HAD SOME CONCERNS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS ONE MEETING, I HAD ONE, UM, UH, SOME COMMUNICATIONS AND I SAID I WANTED TO HAVE, I TH I THINK YOU WERE COPIED ON IT.
I SAID, I I WANTED TO INVITE THEIR LAWYERS.
DIDN'T, DIDN'T THEY SAY AT ONE POINT THEY DIDN'T WANT THEIR LAWYERS, THE BRIGHTVIEW LAWYERS THERE, THEY, THEY HAD COMPLAINED.
THEY SAID THEY WANNA MEET WITH US.
I'M, I'M, I'M AVAILABLE TOMORROW.
I, I MEAN, I THINK WE JUST GAVE PRETTY MUCH THE UPDATE.
THERE HAVE BEEN GOOD FAITH EFFORTS.
WE'VE NOT SEEN SEDIMENT LEAVING, LEAVING THE BRIGHTVIEW AREA AND GOING ONTO THE PON SITE AREA.
UH, WE ARE US, MEANING THE ENGINEERS, UM, BUT OF COURSE WE CONTINUE TO LOOK THAT GOOD FAITH EFFORTS CONTINUE TO BE FOLLOWED.
AND I'M SURE IT'LL BE CHECKING DURING RAIN EVENTS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE WHEN THERE'S HEAVY RAIN, THE SEDIMENT DOESN'T CONTINUE TO RUN OFF AND THAT THE MEASURES THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE ARE EFFECTIVE AND CONTINUE TO REMAIN EFFECTIVE.
SO WE, TOMORROW, WE'VE BEEN OUT EVERY DAY.
PONCY ENGINEERING MYSELF AND THE SUPERVISORS FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN.
I'M NOT SAYING LIKE A MEETING INVITE OR THERE WASN'T ONE HE SAID IT WAS DONE BY NO, HE SAID IT WAS DONE BY EMAIL.
SO WE, SO WHAT ABOUT THE, THEN YOU DON'T NEED THE BUILDING BACK.
YOU DON'T NEED LIKE, THE VIOLATIONS CAME FROM ENGINEERING? NO.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
WELL, ANYONE ON THE BOARD WHO WANTS TO ATTEND, COULD, UM, UM, NEXT, UM, THANK YOU.
DID YOU SAY IT WAS BY ZOOM? NO, NO.
ARE WE, ARE WE MEETING ON THE PON SIDE SITE OR ON WHERE, WHERE ARE WE MEETING TOMORROW? HERE AT TOWN HALL.
UM, SO I'M OVER RIVER RESTORATION, FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT.
UH, WE HAVE GARETH CJ IN PERSON AS WELL.
AND YOU DIDN'T CHANGE TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE YOU WERE YEAH, THANK YOU.
I, I, I FOLLOW DIRECTIONS ORDERS.
UH, REALLY WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE GRAPHICS AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T COME DOWN SOONER TO SET THAT UP, BUT LET ME JUST BEGIN.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE, TAKE A DEEP BREATH.
SO, UM, GOOD EVENING TOWN BOARD.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A GRANT.
AND LAST YEAR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WITH YOUR SUPPORT, UH, APPLIED FOR CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING THROUGH SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S OFFICE.
AND SENATOR GILLIBRAND SPONSORED A PROJECT FOR FLOOD MITIGATION AT, UH, SAWMILL RIVER, WHERE THE, THE SAWMILL RIVER MEETS WITH THE BROOK.
AND THAT PROJECT ULTIMATELY WAS SUPPORTED BY THE SENATOR, BUT IT DIDN'T BECOME ULTIMATELY APPROPRIATED.
SO THIS YEAR WE APPLIED AGAIN THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027 THROUGH SENATOR GILLIBRAND AND SWITCHED GEARS, ACTUALLY FOCUSED A REQUEST ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE FOR SANITARY SEWER NEEDS THROUGH YOUR SUPPORT.
AND WE WERE ACTUALLY, UM, ENCOURAGED BY THE SENATOR'S OFFICE TO RECIRCULATE THE, UH, SAW MILL RIVER GRANT.
THE SENATOR REALLY BELIEVES IN THE NEED FOR THE, UM, FLOOD MITIGATION AS WE ALL DO.
SO THE REASON I'M HERE NOW IS TO, UM, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
ONCE AGAIN, GAIN YOUR SUPPORT.
AND THEN, UH, WITH CJ'S TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, WE'RE FULLY PREPARED TO, UH, RESUBMIT THAT, THAT CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED, UH, SPENDING REQUEST.
AND, UM, AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE WITHOUT THE GRAPHICS, BUT WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS, UH, SITE CONTROL.
AND WHERE THE PROJECT IS ENVISIONED IS, IS TOWN OWNED LAND 35 PLUS ACRES, UM, WHICH IS SOUTH OF THE, UH, UH, WESTBROOK PARK.
UH, THERE'S STREAM RESTORATION, THERE'S REMOVAL OF INVASIVE INVASIVE SPECIES.
UM, THERE'S INCREASED FLOOD STORAGE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, SO THIS IS SOUTH OF BABBITT COURT.
AND, UM, IT'S REALLY, YOU HAVE THAT MUCH ACREAGE AND CONTROL AND, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO HANDLE THE FLOODING THAT IS EXPERIENCED IN THAT AREA.
SO WHAT WE'RE SEEKING YOUR SUPPORT ON IS A REQUEST TO APPLY FOR, UH, $2,250,000.
THERE IS A 25% TOWN MATCH, UH, MUCH LIKE LAST TIME WITH YOUR SUPPORT.
IF THE TOWN IS SUCCESSFUL, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF, LOOK TO BE PROACTIVE AND OBTAIN OTHER GRANTS THAT WILL ACT AS THE TOWN MATCH, WHICH IS OFTEN THE CASE WITH THESE.
SO IF THE TOWN BOARD IS AGAIN, SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE'VE ACTUALLY BUILT INTO THE RESOLUTION,
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UH, CLAUSE THAT READS, UM, SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, UM, FOLLOWING THE, UH, TOWN SUBMISSION OF A CDS REQUEST.WE'LL PROACTIVELY LOOK FOR OTHER, UH, MATCHING FUNDS.
WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH HERE.
A GROUP CALLED HUDSON VALLEY GROUNDWORK.
UH, PREPARED A STUDY AND THEY DID SOME INITIAL MODELING, UH, THAT REALLY INSPIRED THIS PROJECT.
SO THE TOWN REALLY IS LOOKING TO BUILD OFF OF THAT.
UM, THE PROJECT IS NOT SHOVEL READY, SO THAT THE NATURE OF THE $3 MILLION TOTAL GRANT WOULD GO TO A COMBINATION OF, UH, DESIGN ROUGHLY 500,000, UH, DOLLARS, AND THEN 2.5 MILLION FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THERE IS A MAJOR PREREQUISITE TO OBTAINING THE FUNDS.
AND IT'S THROUGH FEMA, UH, PRE-DISASTER MITIGATION PROGRAM.
THE STUDY THAT I REFERENCED BY HUDSON VALLEY GROUNDWORK, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY FEMA AS LIKE A GOOD STARTING POINT AS A BASIS FOR, UM, CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING.
SO FEMA STAFF THROUGH, I THINK IT WAS DISH, SUPPORTED THAT LAST YEAR, AND THEY VALIDATED THE GROUNDWORK STUDY AND WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AGAIN IN AN ANTICIPATION OF THIS POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEY, AGAIN, REAFFIRMED THAT THE STUDY WAS VALID.
SO, UH, WITH CJ'S HELP, WE, WE REFRESHED LAST YEAR'S APPLICATION AND WE'RE REALLY READY TO GO.
UM, SO WE CAN FILE AS EARLY AS TOMORROW MORNING.
OF COURSE, THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS NOT TILL THE EIGHTH.
SO WE WOULD PUT A RESOLUTION ON THAT REALLY CATCHES UP, BUT WE WOULD DO IT WITH THE OFFICIAL RESOLUTION.
SO IF THERE'S TOWN SUPPORT, SUPPORT, WE APPRECIATE IT AS ALWAYS, AND WE'RE READY TO WORK TWO THINGS, AND I'M WAITING FOR YOU MISSED IT.
UM, CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT THE REMEDIATION HIGH POINT, YOU KNOW, BULLET POINT IT AND WHAT THE SECOND QUESTION MIGHT AS WELL DO ALL IS SIMPLER.
UM, WHAT IS THE DEADLINE FOR GETTING THIS IN SO WE KNOW? SO, CAN I PA CAN I PIGGYBACK ON HER QUESTION SO WE CAN JUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE? SO WE, YOU MENTIONED BABAT COURT, HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTS OF BABAT COURT? WE JUST REMOVED THE BRIDGE THAT WAS GONNA BE HELPFUL TO THE FLOOD MEDIATION.
SO HOW IS THAT ALL RELATIVE? UH, UH, YES.
THIS IS, THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO, TO BABA COURT.
THIS WILL CERTAINLY HELP REDUCE FLOODING IMPACTS, UH, AS WELL AS THAT BRIDGE PROJECT.
IT, IT'LL PROVIDE, UH, IT'LL LOWER THE, THE, THE FLOOD WATERS EVEN FURTHER.
SO IF THERE ARE FLOODS, IT WOULDN'T BE AS, AS DAMAGING OR WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S, IT'S BELOW, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE DOING, LIKE TRYING TO RAISE THOSE HOMES MM-HMM
UM, BUT IT'LL CERTAINLY HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT.
UM, THE, SOME OF THE DETAILS ARE, UH, AS KIND OF MENTIONED IT, SO, SO FORESTED AREAS ARE THE, SOME OF THE BEST, IT'S THE BEST.
FLOOD MITIGATION CONTROL TREES TAKE, TAKE UP A LOT OF WATER.
UM, BUT IF IT'S CHOKED OUT, IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT THE NATURAL CONDITIONS, IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S INVASIVE, YOU KNOW, WEEDS IN, IN THERE THAT'S GONNA CHOKE OUT THE NATURAL FORESTED GROWTH.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.
SO YOU, UH, AND YOU ENCOURAGE THE, THE, THE, THE TREES AND, AND THE VEGETATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
THEY CAN TAKE THE CHANNEL OF THE, OF THE, OF THE RIVER ITSELF AND WIDEN IT.
AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A, A, A LARGER, UH, FLOOD PLANE, LIKE IN, WITHIN THE CHANNEL.
IT'S IN THE, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE, THE RIVER ITSELF.
UM, AND THEN THERE SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE POTENTIAL FOR ADDING ADDITIONAL STORAGE, WHICH WOULD HAVE AN EVEN MORE OF AN IMPACT IF, WHETHER THAT'S A PIPE GALLERY, WHETHER YOU SLOW THE WATER DOWN, THERE'S PIPES UNDERGROUND THAT THAT CAN HOLD SOME WATER AND, AND MAKE IT TAKE LONGER TO GET DOWNSTREAM, WHICH ULTIMATELY IMPROVES FLOODING AND, UH, OR EVEN LIKE A, A, SOME KIND OF A STORAGE TANK IF, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT THE, THE, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT THAT GROUNDWATER HUDSON CAME UP WITH WAS FOCUSED ON, ON, YOU KNOW, GREEN INITIATIVES AND, AND, AND NA NATURAL SOLUTIONS, WHICH IS, UM, UM, JUST WHAT A LOT OF THESE GRANTS ARE LOOKING FOR.
UM, AND, AND I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST POINT OUT ONE, ONE OTHER THING IS THERE, WE WERE, LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY TRIED TO APPLY FOR A GRANT THROUGH A RESILIENT NY, ANOTHER STATE DEC PROGRAM.
AND THEY, THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT IT, IT DID SEEM LIKE A GOOD PROJECT, BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE A HYDRAULIC MODEL IN PLACE TO, TO VERIFY HOW MUCH FLOOD MITIGATION IT'S GONNA PROVIDE.
SO IF WE DO THIS PROJECT, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO IS A, IS A HYDRAULIC MODEL, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT, AND THAT WE COULD, YOU COULD, THAT COULD HELP US WITH OTHER PROJECTS WITH TWEAKING THIS PROJECT AND BEING ELIGIBLE FOR EVEN MORE GRANTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE TOWN AS WELL.
C IF IT'S HELPFUL, THERE'S A GRAPHIC ON THE SCREEN, WHICH SHOWS THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROJECT.
AND I'M GONNA PUT MY CURSOR QUICKLY ON BABBITT COURT JUST TO SHOW YOU, UM, WHERE THAT IS.
UM, BUT BABBIT COURT IS THAT SERIES OF, OF HOMES, AND THEN THE CRITICAL MASS OF PROPERTY IS BELOW THESE TRANSMISSION LINES.
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AND THIS IS ALL, UH, TOWN OWNED LAND.AND YOU SEE, UM, BOTH THE, UH, SAWMILL RIVER, UH, A WATER, A STANDING WATER SOURCE POND, I'LL PUT THE POND AND, UM, YOU SEE THE, THE CRITICAL MASS OF, OF LAND THAT THE TOWN OWNS WHERE IT CAN ACTUALLY AFFECT SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
ONE OF THE IDEAS WOULD BE TO CONNECT THAT POND TO THE, TO THE RIVER MORE DIRECTLY.
MAYBE IT'LL BECOME A, IT CAN USE IT AS A STORAGE SO IT BECOMES A RETENTION POND.
THAT'S NOT REALLY CONNECTED TO THE, TO THE RIVER RIGHT NOW.
AND WILL YOU BE DREDGING IT OR ANYTHING SO THAT IT CAN ACCOMMODATE MORE WATER? OR THAT'LL, THAT'LL HAVE TO GET LOOKED AT.
UM, I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS PART OF THE, UH, THE CONCEPT, UM, BUT THEY WERE, I, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY WIDENED THE CHANNEL, UH, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO.
AND, AND EVEN IF IT DOESN'T, THAT PART OF IT ISN'T OPERATIONAL RIGHT AWAY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN ALWAYS BE DONE AT A LATER DATE TO YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT REALLY WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IS FROM ONE END OF THE RIVER TO THE OTHER, LIKE A COORDINATED EFFORT TO DREDGE THE WHOLE.
THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
SEE WHAT PERCENT IN TERMS OF UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MITIGATION OF, YOU KNOW, FLOODING, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENT IMPROVEMENTS DO YOU THINK THIS WOULD BE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE STUDYING AND STUDYING AND STUDYING AND THAT THAT WAS MANY, MANY MILLION TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS BETTER THAN JUST THE BRIDGE REMOVAL, BUT IT STILL WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
NOTHING'S GONNA SOLVE FLOODING PROBLEMS, FIRST OF ALL.
THIS WILL HELP WITH LIKE A BASIC STORM.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY.
IT, IT, IT COULD BE A HALF A FOOT, IT COULD BE A FOOT AND, AND THE, YOU REALLY WON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU GET INTO SOME MORE OF THE DETAILS.
AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT HAVING THAT MODEL IS THAT IT'S, IT'S VERY EASY TO, TO TWEAK ON A, ON A COMPUTER SCREEN, WHAT IF WE DID THIS? WHAT IF WE DID THAT? WHAT IF WE ADD THIS AND YOU COULD SEE, OH, THAT'LL DROP THE, THAT'LL DROP THE LEVEL EVEN MORE.
SO YOU COULD REALLY GET INTO THAT, THAT KIND OF DETAIL ONCE YOU HAVE A MODEL AND YEAH, THERE'S, I MEAN THERE'S IDEAS.
YOU COULD PUT, YOU COULD PUT STORAGE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS IN THAT AREA UNDER THE BALL FIELDS.
IN, IN, IN, IN OTHER AREAS IT COULD COST 10 TO $20 MILLION.
BUT YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED FEDERAL AID AT THAT POINT.
AND THIS, WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO NOW.
AND, AND IF YOU DID SOMETHING THAT'S VERY EXTREME THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM COMPLETELY, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOREVER NOW.
AND IT'S EASY TO GET A, IT'S NOT EASY, BUT YOU CAN GET A GRANT TO DO SOMETHING IN THE 10 TO $20 MILLION RANGE OF, IF YOU SAY IT'S GOING TO REDUCE, IT'S GONNA ELIMINATE THE FLOODING RIGHT IN, IN 99% OF THE, UH, THE, OF THE SITU, YOU KNOW, OF, OF STORMS. BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT.
BUT NO ONE GIVES YOU A GRANT LATER TO, TO MAINTAIN WHEN THAT TANK IS FULL OF, OF, OF DEBRIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO THESE, THESE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE FEASIBLE, THESE THINGS THAT ARE PRACTICAL.
UM, I HAVE ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION.
BESIDES THE BENEFITS THAT WILL ACCRUE TO BABBITT COURT AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AROUND, ARE ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES NEGATIVELY IMPACTED OR DO WE HAVE TO GET, UM, APPRO APPROVALS TO GET, GO ONTO LAND TO DO ANY OF THIS WORK? UH, PRIVATE LAND? UH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, GREAT THINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UH, IT WON'T, IT WON'T IMPACT NEGATIVE, IT WON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY OTHER PROPERTIES 'CAUSE YOU'RE STORING WATER.
SO IT IS DETENTION OR RETENTION? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RETENTION.
IF WE CAN, WE COULD, WE CAN TRY TO ADD SOME DETENTION WITH THAT POND, BUT THE, UM, THE WINDING OF THE CHANNEL SLOWS THE WATER DOWN.
IF YOU ARE PROMOTING THE PROPER GROWTH, THOSE, THAT, THAT VEGETATION DRAWS UP A LOT OF THE WATER.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FLOODING.
UM, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING MORE DRASTIC WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING DETENTION TYPE UNDERGROUND TANKS OR MORE PONDS IF WE COULD DO THAT.
BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO TAKE OUT GOOD FOREST AND PUT IN A POND.
'CAUSE THE FOREST DOES THAT WORK.
AND JUST JUST TO ELABORATE ON THAT, YOU'RE USING YOUR, YOU REFERENCED, UH, SLOWING THE WATER DOWN BY WIDENING THE CHANNEL SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IS WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THAT WATER RUSHING DOWNSTREAM, THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR, FOR WATER TO BE ABSORBED.
SO IF IT'S SLOWED DOWN, THEN THE, IT CAN BE ABSORBED MORE, UH, BETTER IN A BETTER WAY SO THAT IT DOES, UH, REDUCE FLOODING.
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THIS IS JUST ONE PART IN A SERIES OF OTHER MITIGATIONS THAT ARE EXPECTED OF ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, FRONTAGE ON THE SAWMILL RIVER.AND I KNOW YOU WERE ON THE WALK WHEN THE, UH, DEC STUDY FOCUSED ON THIS.
AND, UH, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE EFFORTS.
THIS IS LIKE A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, I SUPPOSE.
UH, THIS WOULD BE FEDERAL FUNDING.
AND THEN THE STATE ALSO HAS MONIES ALLOCATED FOR FLOOD REMEDIATION.
SO THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING, THAT WE WOULD APPLY TO OTHER GRANTS.
I, I KNOW DOES IT, IF THIS FEDERAL FUNDING, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT LIKE LOOKING KINDLY ON BLUE STATES.
I MEAN, IS THIS A GRANT THAT DOES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACT, DOES THE SENATOR THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY GET THE MONEY, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS? WELL, THE MONIES HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED.
UM, BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE WILL THEY BE RELEASED? SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NO TELLING.
AND SHE WOULD KNOW THAT EITHER.
I MEAN, WE COULD JUST HOPE IT'S A HOPE AND A PRAYER OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO, BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOME SUPPORT, I THINK YOU SHOULD REALLY GO FORWARD WHATEVER MONIES WE CAN TO, TO HELP WITH THIS FLOOD MITIGATION, WE NEED TO.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE BOARD.
IS THERE ANY, UH, HOPE OR EXPECTATION THAT WE COULD FIND OTHER SOURCES FOR THE MATCH? UH, YES AND YES,
I MEAN, UM, IT COULD BE A STATE MATCH THROUGH THE, UM, THROUGH MULTIPLE SOURCES.
THE, THE BOND ACT IS A POTENTIAL, THE BOND ACT.
THE COUNTY HELPED US GET THIS, UH, THIS CONCEPT PLAN RIGHT? ISN'T, WASN'T THAT GROUND.
OH NO, THAT WAS THROUGH THE STATE AS WELL.
HUDSON VALLEY, IT WAS DEC SPONSORED THROUGH THE STATE, BUT, AND THERE ARE SOME MONIES FROM THE COUNTY, I BELIEVE.
AND THAT, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
AND, AND YOU SENT THE, THE EMAIL, THE, THE COUNTY, UM, HAD A MUNICIPAL MEETING YESTERDAY, UH, COUNTY EXECUTIVE KEN JENKINS.
AND HE LISTED A SERIES OF, UM, GRANTS, WHETHER THEY'RE STATE AND MAYBE SOME COUNTY, WHICH WE CAN FORWARD TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THEM ON YOUR RADAR.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE CONNECT WITH, UM, UH, COUNTY LEGISLATOR WILLIAMS JOHNSON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, SHE KEEPS UP IN THE LOOP OF ANYTHING THAT'S COMING DOWN.
AND THEN ALSO WITH MARY JAMES SIM'S OFFICE TO SEE WHAT'S COMING DOWN IS PASAL AND DAVID IN MEMORIAL TOO.
AND DAVID, IS PASCAL STILL WITH MARY JANE? I'M SORRY, PASQUA, IS SHE STILL WITH MARY JANE? SHE, SHE'S THERE, BUT HER, HER, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE WAS STILL THERE.
BUT LET'S MAKE SURE WE CONNECT WITH THOSE OFFICES SO WE CAN JUST CONTAIN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND THIS GIVES SOME MOMENTUM TO THE CONCEPT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REACH OUT TO THOSE SOURCES AND WE INDICATE THAT, OH, WE'VE GOT A REQUEST IN THROUGH THE SENATOR AND IT WAS FUNDED THE PRIOR YEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW YOU REALLY START PULLING TOGETHER JOINT EFFORTS.
SO WE WILL BE ALL OVER OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND MM-HMM
LIKE ALWAYS, ALWAYS LOOKING TO, UH, MINIMIZE OR LOWER THE TOWN CASH MATCH.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE HAVE YOU WANT FOR THE NEXT ONE TOO? EAST DALE, THE FARMER'S MARKET.
WE'RE GONNA DO THE, UM, OH THAT VERY QUICKLY.
THE FARMER'S MARKET IS TAKING OFF THIS, THIS WEEKEND AND THE, THE FARMER'S MARKET OPERATOR'S LOOKING TO PURCHASE SOME BANNERS AND THEN TURN THOSE OVER TO DPW TO BE INSTALLED ON PULSE.
AND ARE YOU COORDINATED WITH, YOU COORDINATED WITH I CHECKED IN WITH STAFF.
AND THEY ASKED TO JUST ENSURE THAT THE TOWN BOARD WAS SUPPORTIVE.
I CAN SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
THIS IS, UM, AND THESE ARE DEFINITELY TOWN STREETS 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY SITUATIONS.
JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE NO STATE, UH, YEAH.
UH, PERHAPS, UH, TWO OR THREE OF THEM.
SO WHOSE POLES ARE THEY GOING ON? THEY WOULD GO ON, UM, WHOSE POLES ARE THEY GOING ON? ON POLES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND, UM, WHOSE POLES ARE THEY THOUGH? THEIR HOURS ON? UM, ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE.
WE'VE, WE PUT THE F WE'VE PUT FLAGS THERE.
UM, AND THERE'S LIKE, WE USED TO HAVE BANNER YEARS AGO, WE HAD SOME BANNERS.
I THINK YOU MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO.
WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE, SO THEY HAVE THE MATERIALS, STAFF HAS MATERIALS AND STUFF.
SO WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM STAFF GUY? I DON'T KNOW.
I WAS ASKED TO MAKE SURE THE TOWN BOARD WAS SUPPORTED.
I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THERE WAS SOMETHING.
IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA CROSS THE TOWN.
HAVE ANY SKETCH SKETCHES OF WHAT? BANNER? WE HAVE A VISUAL OF THE BANNER.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IT'S RIGHT THERE.
JUST SAY GREENBERG DOWN PALM WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING.
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TELL HARSDALE.SO WHAT IS IT GONNA SAY ACTUALLY? WHAT IS IT GONNA, WHAT IS THE BANNER GONNA SAY? SAY FARMERS MARKET SATURDAYS.
MAYBE WILL DALE BE ON THERE OR SOMETHING? SOME SOMETHING THAT IDENTIFIES GREENBERG BEBERG.
SEE HAVE ANOTHER, LET'S SEE IT M WORD.
UM, WHY, WHY DON'T WE SEE WHAT, WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE BEFORE WE, ARE YOU ABLE TO, I, I THINK YOU SHOULD ALSO COME UP WITH A POLICY WHY THIS EVENT IS GETTING BANNERS AND IF OTHER THANK YOU SIR.
EVENTS ARE MAKING REQUESTS AS WELL TO JUST FORMALIZE IT.
LET ME ASK YOU, SO LESS, SO LESS FULL TRANSPARENCY, WHO'S PAYING FOR THE BANNERS? THEY ARE THE OPERATOR'S GONNA OKAY.
SO THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW THE SIZE AND THE, IF THERE'S ANY HARDWARE.
SO WE'LL DELIVER THAT INFORMATION.
SO THIS IS NOT A TOWN PAID BANNER? NO, I THINK THEY WOULD LOOK FOR THE TOWN ASSISTANCE GOING ON PUBLIC, PUBLIC PROPERTY.
BUT THE FARMER'S MARKET IS SOMETHING THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE BEEN TOWN EMPLOYEE WORK PROMOTING.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GONNA HELP THE TOWN THAT WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE THINK, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO IS WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS OF ENCOURAGING MORE STREET TRAFFIC.
THERE'S NOW A NEW, UH, UM, A NEW STORE JUST OPENED LAST WEEK, A A DOG, UH, A PET SUPPLY STORE, WHICH IS GREAT.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE COULD REALLY DO, UM, TO ENCOURAGE MORE STREET TRAFFIC I THINK WOULD BE GREAT.
NOW WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS IS IF HE WANTS TO PUT LIKE, SAY THREE BANNERS, WE COULD SAY TO THE OTHER STORES ON EAST DALE AVENUE THAT UM, IF THEY WANT TO PUT A SIMILAR BANNER PROMOTING, YOU KNOW, SO HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, ON THAT'S STORES.
WE NEED TO HAVE POLICIES BEFORE WE START OPENING UP THE FLOOD GATES.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER THAT.
NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO ADVERTISE 'CAUSE OF COURSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO ADVERTISE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME, SOME, UM, PROCESS HERE.
VICE FARMER MARKET IS SORT OF A FINE LINE BETWEEN A, AN ACTIVITY AND A AND A COMMERCIAL VENTURE.
WE, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS JUST A STORE, AN INDIVIDUAL STORE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL STORE.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AN, AN EVENT FOR THE DOWNTOWN.
SO PROMOTING IT WITH THE BANNERS MAKES SENSE.
I CANNOT, WHICH WE HAD TO APPROVE.
AND YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, SO MAYBE WE CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THERE, IF WE GET A REQUEST FOR BANNERS, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLEASE.
UM, GARY, CAN YOU, UM, TALK ABOUT, SO I MENTIONED AT THE LAST, 'CAUSE HE STARTED THIS SATURDAY.
SO AT THE, AT THE LAST MENTIONING OF THE FARMER'S MARKET, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ALL THE OLDER FOOD THAT'S NOT SOLD? WAS THERE SOME TYPE OF DONATION SO PEOPLE CAN BE AWARE OF IT WHENEVER YOU, AFTER THE FOOD? I THINK THERE WAS SOME SOMETHING'S TO DONATION THERE.
TWO THINGS THE OPERATORS FOCUSING ON.
ONE IS, UH, ENABLING PEOPLE WITH, UM, WIC, THE WIC COST WIC AND SNAP TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT TO, TO, TO, UM, PURCHASE THINGS.
AND THEN IN ADDITION, I, I KNOW HE IS VERY PROACTIVE WITH NOT, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE NOT THROWING THINGS OUT.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS ON WHETHER THAT GOES TO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES, BUT I KNOW HE, YEAH, I CAN FIND OUT IF WE COULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
JUST BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, MEET MAY NEED THOSE SERVICES YEAHM NOT SURE WHERE THE DONATION GOES, BUT I'LL FIND OUT.
YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW 'CAUSE MAYBE WE COULD MAKE SOME LOCAL DONATIONS TOO.
AND WE'RE GONNA SEE THE IMAGE BEFORE IT GOES UP.
NO, WE CAN HAVE HIM, HIM DO HIS.
ONCE HE GETS SOMETHING THEN THAT'S ALL YOU GOT DO.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, WHILE I WAS HERE, IF I COULD SNEAKING A THREE MINUTE A DU UPDATE, BUT, UH, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
YOU PUT THOUGHT WE'RE GOING, WE HAVE TO IF WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT NEXT.
HOW ABOUT WE JUST TAKE A QUICK VOTE? IS THERE ANY DISAGREEMENT TO THAT? JUST DISAGREEMENT TO WHAT? TO, TO HEARING IT.
SO THERE, THERE ARE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO WANNA HEAR IT.
JUST DOUBLE CHECKING FOR PURPOSES OF FOLLOWING RULES AND REGULATIONS.
BECAUSE THE, WE HAD THE VERY SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC HEARING, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY MM-HMM
THERE WAS ONE ACTION ITEM AND THAT WAS TO, UH, THERE WAS TWO WAIVER CLAUSES THAT WAS BUILT INTO THE LAW.
AND AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD WE HAD DISCUSSED, UH, PUTTING IN, UM, LANGUAGE TO THE EFFECT THAT THE CDNC COMMISSIONER WOULD ISSUE A WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE WAIVERS.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I FOLLOWED THROUGH ON THAT.
I'M GONNA TRY AND QUICKLY PULL UP THE LANGUAGE.
UM, BUT I, I DID EMAIL THIS AROUND.
SO THE LOCAL LAW REALLY IS, IS, IS IN FINAL FORM.
THIS WAS WITH RESPECT TO SETBACKS.
SO I'M JUST GONNA RECITE THIS.
THIS IS UNDER 80 FOLLOWING RECEIPT OF RICK WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
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THE PLANNING BOARD MAY, IN ITS DISCRETION, GRANT A WAIVER OF THIS HEIGHT REQUIREMENT.IF A LAWFULLY EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH A HEIGHT AND EXCESS OF 12 FEET IS PROPOSED TO BE CONVERTED TO AN A DU AND SAID WAIVER SHALL NOT DETRIMENTALLY IMPACT THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO, WELL THE TRANSLATION IS, PLANNING BOARD CANNOT TAKE THAT ACTION UNTIL, UH, SOMEONE MYSELF OR, YOU KNOW, WEIGHS IN, IN WRITING AND DITTO THAT FOR, UM, THE, THE SETBACK SIDE OF THAT.
THAT WAS FOR THE HEIGHT OF A, UM, PREEXISTING ACCE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
SO WHY IS THE WORDING USED FOR THE OTHER TIMES THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS ASKED FOR A RECOMMENDATION? UH, IN THIS LAW OR JUST GENERALLY? IN THE, IN GENERAL.
I DON'T THINK IT'S AS WELL WRITTEN AS I'VE WRITTEN
WELL, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, UM, IT'S JUST A RECORD.
I, I LITERALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY USED THE, THE WORD WRITTEN.
UM, BUT I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOT JUST SHOW UP TO A MEETING AND MAKE SOME VERBAL.
SO I, I, I HAD LANGUAGE LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, AND DID YOU LOOK INTO THAT PERSON WHO RAISED SOME ISSUE AT THE MEETING? I OWE, UH, THE ONE GENTLEMAN A CALL BACK TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 2 85 AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THERE THAT MAY BE OF BENEFIT.
BUT, UM, IN MY PRIOR CONVERSATIONS, THAT DOES SEEM LIKE IT MAY HAVE SOME TRACTION, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THEM.
UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, UM, AT THE MEETING.
AND, UM, I HAD ACTUALLY SPOKE TO HIM THAT, THAT AFTERNOON, SO MM-HMM
UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PHONE LINE'S OPEN IF ANYONE, AS SOON AS THIS GOES LIVE, I'M SURE A LOT MORE, UH, CALLS WILL COME IN MM-HMM
THERE'S TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS.
CD ONE IS A, A PROPOSED NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT AFFIRMS THAT THIS ACTION OF APPROVING AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT LOCAL LAW WILL NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT IN THE TOWN.
AND OF COURSE, OFTENTIMES WE INSTATE THAT, WE STATE THAT IT'S THE OPPOSITE, IT'LL HAVE A BENEFICIAL, UH, IMPACT.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL APPROVAL RESOLUTION, THERE'S A COUPLE SUBSTANTIVE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO WALK THE BOARD THROUGH.
NOT ONLY DOES THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE A DU LOCAL LAW, NOT ONLY IS IT THAT SIMPLE, WE'VE ADDED ON, UH, IF YOU RECALL, THE LOCAL LAW BUILDS IN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO INSTITUTE A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS.
WE HAVE TALKED MANY TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE REVIEW.
UH, AND I'VE, I'VE FLOATED A NUMBER OF 15 AT SEVERAL TIMES AND, UM, THAT'S THE NUMBER I'M RECOMMENDING.
I, I THINK, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WILL BE 15 APPLICATIONS MM-HMM
BUT, UM, IT CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED BY RESOLUTION.
THE SUNSET, IT CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED.
SO I DID WANT TO BE AWARE THAT WE ARE INTI INSTITUTING A CAP.
OF COURSE THE SUNSET CLAUSE IS A PART OF THE LAW.
UH, LEGAL THANK YOU HELPED US MEMORIALIZE THE WAY THAT SHOULD READ IN THIS APPROVAL RESOLUTION.
AND KEEPING THAT IN MIND FOR THE NUMBER 15, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S A SUNSET CLAUSE, SO GOING FORWARD THAT NUMBER MIGHT CHANGE ABSOLUTELY.
ANY, ANY ASPECT OF THIS CAN CHANGE, CAN CHANGE.
AND THEN LASTLY, JUST A, UM, A SORT OF A CHARGE FOR CD AND C TO KEEP GOOD STATISTICS, UH, AND INFORMATION THAT WILL BE RELEVANT, UH, ALONG THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
SO I'LL WORK WITH STAFF IN UP UPSTAIRS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST WAY TO LOG INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, UM, CALLS ARE.
BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY, WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH A LOT OF DATA AND I'M SURE I, WE, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA LEARN A LOT AFTER YEAR ONE ON THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY IN THE AUDIENCE READY FOR THE NEXT TOPIC.
HOW'S IT GOING? HOW ARE YOU? GOOD GOING EVERYBODY.
DO YOU WANT, UM, ONE OF THE OWNERS UP HERE TOO, RYAN, FROM ELLO OR, OR IT'S UP TO BOARD.
YOU GOOD? ALRIGHT, LET'S GET, IF YOU COULD JUST TURN THAT MIC ON.
WOULD YOU PULL IT CLOSE TO YOU TOO, SO THAT SURE.
I WAS, I WAS HERE LAST NIGHT BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD STANDING THERE, SO MY VOICE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBDUED TODAY.
UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE TIME.
UM, SO IF YOU WANT ME TO JUST SORT OF, WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF? SURE.
I'M JACOB AMIR WITH ZIN AND STEINMETZ.
UM, THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE APPLICANTS OF 33 ORCHARD AND 37 ORCHARD RYAN ELLO, WHO'S SITTING BEHIND ME IS ONE OF THE OWNERS OF 33 ORCHARD.
ESSENTIALLY JUST OVERVIEW, THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A DAPPING AND REQUEST THAT, THAT YOUR BOARD, UH, DIRECT A TOWN SUPERINTENDENT OF HIGHWAYS ISSUE A STATEMENT OF ABANDONMENT OF EASTWARD, UM, OF EASTWARD PLACE.
SO EASTWARD, UH, SINCE THE SUBDIVISION UP UNTIL THE PRESENT DAY IS AT PAPER STREET, WE DID A FOIL
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AND THE FOIL CAME BACK THAT THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN OFFER AND DEDICATION TO THE TOWN.SO IT'S REMAINED AT PAPER STREET.
AND THE INTERESTING THING HERE IS THAT, UM, THERE ARE ONLY TWO OWNERS, TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE BOUGHT, UH, EASTWARD PLACE WHERE WE ARE AND IT'S MY CLIENTS.
SO AS YOU, AS YOU KNOW, I'M SURE UNDER THE LAW NEW YORK STATE, IF THERE'S AN APPLICATION OR AD MAP, BOTH OF YOUR CLIENTS? BOTH OF MY CLIENTS, CORRECT.
AND, AND IT'S, IT'S ALMOST EQU DISTANCE.
SO EASTWARD PLACE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS 50 FEET WIDE BY ABOUT 90 FEET LONG.
UM, 33 ORCHARD IS ON THE WEST SIDE, 37 ORCHARD IS ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND UNDER THE LAW IN NEW YORK, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHEN AN APPLICANT SEEKS TO DMAP A PAPER STREET, ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ABUT THAT PAPER STREET NEED TO GIVE CONSENT TO IT.
SO WE HAVE THAT HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY TWO OWNERS, WHICH MAKES THIS A SIMPLER, RELATIVELY SIMPLER PROCESS.
UM, IT'S UN EASTWARD IS UNPAVED.
UH, THE PORTION THAT IS THE PAPER STREET RUNS FROM ORCHARD LANE TO OLD COUNTRY ROAD.
SO IT RUNS FROM A SOUTH TO NORTH DIRECTION FROM, UH, ORCHARD TO OLD COUNTRY ROAD.
THERE IS ANOTHER PAPER STREET CATSKILL, I WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS RIGHT.
CATSKILL, WHICH IS ABOUT 480 FEET TO THE EAST.
UH, WHICH IS AS WE UNDERSTAND IS USED AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT.
AND AGAIN, I THINK DPW NEEDS TO PROBABLY CONFIRM THAT EASTWARD PLACE IS NO LONGER REALLY USED AS AN, AS AN A, AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT ON, ON ORCHARD SIDE.
IT'S OPEN SO ANYBODY CAN WALK IN AND OUT.
UH, AND, AND PRESUMABLY I GUESS IF YOU HAD A CAR, YOU CAN GO OVER THE ROCK, BUT YOU'RE GONNA, YOU MAY SUFFER, YOU KNOW, TIRE DAMAGE IN THE PROCESS.
ON THE OLD COUNTRY ROADSIDE, THERE'S A 24 FOOT WOODEN BARRIER, UM, WHICH BASICALLY BLOCKS ANY CAR FROM TRAVERSING UNLESS YOU REMOVE THAT BARRIER.
UM, WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS IN OUR, IN OUR SUBMISSION, UM, WHEN THERE WAS THE, ONE OF THE BLIZZARDS, I THINK IN DECEMBER, I, I GUESS DPW DID COME, OR SOMEBODY CAME AND PLOWED, BUT THEN PUT ALL THE SNOW ALONG THE OLD COUNTRY ROADSIDE.
SO THAT WOULD'VE PREVENTED ANY EMERGENCY ACCESS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO DID IT EXACTLY, BUT IT JUST SHOWS THAT THIS IS REALLY NOT AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT.
UM, MY CLIENTS HAVE BEEN SORT OF MANAGING, MAINTAINING THE, THE SIDES OF IT, TRYING TO KEEP IT CLEAN AND AND WHATNOT.
BUT IT'S UNEVEN, IT'S BROKEN, IT'S UM, IT'S, IT'S ROCK.
UM, AND SO WOULD LIKE TO PASS THIS AROUND.
SO YOU COULD JUST BE QUESTION.
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN A PAPER ROAD SINCE THE SUBDIVISION IN, UH, LET'S SEE, THE YEAR, I WANNA LOOK REAL QUICK.
UM, YEAH, YOU'D MENTIONED THAT.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IN YEARS.
SO THE FILE, THE FILE MAP IS FROM 1946.
IT'S, WE'RE GOING ON 80 YEARS.
AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY ONCE IT'S DE MAPPED? UH, WE, DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT ISSUES THE STATEMENT OF ABANDONMENT AND THEN THE TAX, THE, THE LOT LINES ARE ADJUSTED FOR 33 AND 37.
SO THEY MEET A COMMON BOUNDARY LINE.
ROUGHLY 25, UH, 25 FEET FOR EACH.
AND THAT, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE, UM, THE, UM, ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS? I, I BELIEVE IT, IT, THE ZONING STAYS THE SAME.
IT'S IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
THE LAND COVERAGE, UH, ACTUALLY IMPROVES, RIGHT.
BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE LESS BUILDING, MORE LAND.
UM, AND I WANT TO ADD, 'CAUSE IT JUST POPPED INTO MY HEAD.
RYAN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT TO THE EXTENT OF ANY QUESTION, WHAT ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET? THEY ARE FAMILY OR FRIENDS OF THE APPLICANTS AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AS WELL.
ARE THERE LETTERS OF SUPPORT WITHIN THE APPLICATION? I BELIEVE WE CAN, WE CAN GET LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
SO HAS DPW WEIGHED IN ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT AS, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY EGRESS TO THE MAIN ROAD? I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD THAT THEY WANT TO CONSIDER IT.
I HAD, UH, I HAD A CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON WITH AMANDA AND UM, IT WAS SUGGESTED CORRECTLY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A SITE VISIT WITH DPW TO NOT ONLY WALK THIS
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PROPERTY, THIS SITE, BUT ALSO CATSKILL, WHICH IS ABOUT 480 FEET NORTH TO MAKE SURE THAT IS A VIABLE ACCESS POINT.UM, AND JUST FOR YOUR BOARD TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME, SOME COMPARATIVE UH, TO THINK ABOUT EASTWARD PLACE RIGHT NOW HAS THAT 24 FOOT FENCE, ONE, ONE PLANK FENCE ALONG OLD COUNTRY ROAD.
CATSKILL HAS A 16 FOOT FENCE AND A 13 FOOT OPEN SPACE, MEANING CATSKILL HAS 29 FEET WIDE OF ACCESSIBILITY VERSUS 24 FEET FOR EASTWARD.
AND CATSKILL IS PAVED, WHICH MAKES IT MORE FAVORABLE FOR EMERGENCY USAGE.
HE'S GOTTA FIX THAT TO FIX IT.
UM, AND JUST ONE, ONE LAST POINT ON THE COMPARISON.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE DPW DOES NEED AN EMERGENCY ACCESS, ACCESS POINT.
UM, EASTWARD ACCESS TO WHAT? TO OLD COUNTRY ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN IT'S USED.
UM, 'CAUSE AS WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE FLOODS, IT'S EASY TO BLOCK NINE A AND BIEBER HILL.
UM, ONE THING TO CONSIDER, I DUNNO IF IT'S RELEVANT OR NOT.
ORCHARD, AS YOU MOVE FROM WEST TO EAST, IT DEAD ENDS AT CATSKILL.
SO AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE, FOR INSTANCE, TRAVERSE ON CATSKILL GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH, STRAIGHT THROUGH AND THERE WILL BE ANY CROSS TRAFFIC ON ORCHARD.
WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE THAT TRAVERSES ON EASTWARD PLACE THAT'S OPEN AND CONTINUES ACROSS ORCHARD, YOU'RE GONNA BE COMING ON INTERSECTING TRAFFIC.
ARE ALL THESE ARGUMENTS DOCUMENTED IN WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US? THE ONLY ARGUMENT THAT'S NOT DOCUMENTED IS THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE COMING SOUTH NORTH FROM CATSKILL TO TO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO OLD COUNTRY ROAD.
ONLY BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE SUBDIVISION RENOWNED, IT OCCURS TO ME IT MAY BE EASIER THAT THAT WAY, BUT I CAN, I CAN FOLLOW UP IN A LETTER TO SUPPLEMENT.
I I JUST WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE A, A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF YES.
TO GET MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE I'M GETTING MORE INFORMATION THAN I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF.
SO I THINK INTERNAL MEETINGS SHOULD HAPPEN.
YOU SHOULD ANY SENSE TO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY GET IN CONTACT WITH, I WOULD THINK REACH OUT TO DEPUTY, UM, INSPECTOR GARRITY.
SHE'LL BE ABLE TO BEST ASSIST.
DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON SITE THERE FOR LIKE A HALF HOUR AND THEN COME HERE, DO IT ON A TUESDAY? NO, I'M JUST THINK A STAFF MEETING WOULD BE FINE.
THE PHOTOGRAPH PRETTY MUCH STAFF FIRST.
NO STAFF NEEDS TO STAFF, THEN THEY CAN COME BACK.
WE'LL SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S NECESSARY.
AND, AND, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY, ANY VISITS BY, BY ANYONE.
SO JUST PROCESS WISE, WE'LL CONNECT WITH STAFF, CONNECT WITH PW.
AND THEN WOULD THIS GO ON TO A REGULAR MEETING OR WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS? LET'S GO THROUGH STAFF.
LET'S GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE FROM THERE.
UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE APPLICANT'S HERE.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAD PUT IN AN APPEAL ON FOIL 3 0 3, WHICH WAS NOT RESPONDED TO WITHIN THE INITIAL TIMELINE SET BY FOIL LAW.
UM, WE HAVE SINCE BEEN WORKING ON THE MATTER.
SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR DOCUMENTATION CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE SUPERVISOR AND SEVERAL RESIDENTS WITHIN THE TOWN.
UH, MY OFFICE HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH THE EMAILS, BUT I BASICALLY SAID THAT YOU COULD HAVE THE DOCUMENTS AND I SAID WHATEVER YOU WANT TO GIVE.
SO WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF DOCUMENTS, UM, WHICH ARE EMAILS FROM THE SUPERVISOR'S, UH, EMAIL ADDRESS.
THERE WERE A LARGE NUMBER, ALMOST 3000 EMAILS.
A LOT OF THEM DO MEET PRIVILEGES WITHIN FOIL LAW, SO THEY WON'T BE SHARED.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ARE REDACTED AT THIS POINT.
THEY'RE EITHER ALLOWED TO BE SHARED OR NOT ALLOWED TO BE SHARED UNDER FOIL LAW.
I I DON'T KNOW IF SUPERVISOR IF YOU'RE WORKING ON, ON THOSE ONES OR NOT.
UM, TECHNICALLY THE DUE DATE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TODAY.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE ARE NOT DONE.
WOULD THERE WERE OTHER REQUESTS, THERE'S REQUESTS FOR OTHER FORM OF CORRESPONDENCE THAT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, NOR ADMITTEDLY DO I REALLY WANT ACCESS TO.
IT IT'S ALL, ALL THEY, THEY ASK ABOUT UH, TEXT MESSAGES, PHONE CALL, LOG, WHATEVER.
I'M NOT ALL WITHIN THIS SAME FOIL.
SO WHO WOULD BE DOING THAT? PETER? WHO, I MEAN HOW DOES THAT WORK TYPICALLY? YEAH, THAT
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WOULD BE BETWEEN THE APP, THE, THAT'S THE PERSON, THE PUBLIC OFFICIAL WITH THE, IT WOULD TYPICALLY BE GOING THROUGH THAT.AND AND WHY IS IT IN, IT WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PERSONAL EMAIL.
YOU WOULD NOT DO, YOU WOULD NEED TO COORDINATE THAT WITH IT? YEAH.
AND WHY IS IT IN THE APPEAL? IT'S IN THE APPEAL BECAUSE IT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AT THE, IN THE INITIAL FIVE DAY PERIOD UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, WHICH THEN THE APPLICANT APPEALED I BELIEVE EITHER THE FIRST OR ONE OF THE FIRST FEW DAYS THAT THERE WAS APPEALABLE MM-HMM
AND AT THAT POINT THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A 10 DAY, 10 BUSINESS DAY RULE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.
WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THAT ON EVERY OTHER OCCASION.
ON THIS ONE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO, WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST.
I WAS ACTUALLY HOPING THE APPLICANT WOULD BE HERE SINCE HE REQUESTED IT WOULD BE ON TONIGHT TO JUST TRY TO LET HIM KNOW WE ARE BUT ISN'T PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT.
YEAH, BUT ISN'T THERE THEN THE NEXT WHERE YOU SAY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AND THEN IT GOES TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF NO, NO, THIS IS WHEN YOU GET TO AN APPEAL STAGE THAT IS THE FINAL IS AN APPEAL.
OH, SO IT RAN OUT ALL THE OTHER TIMELINES? YES.
UM, IF THE APPLICANT IS WATCHING OR WILL BE WATCHING THIS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT BECAUSE WE DO NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO, IS HE ON ZOOM TO RESPOND TO THIS? NO.
SO IS THERE COMMUNICATION BACK TO THE APPLICANT? HOW DO WE SAY WHO'S THE ATTENDEE? I'M TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS PROCESS.
NO, I JUST MAKING SURE WE, THE APPLICANT IS CLEAR ON THE PROCESS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I COULD REACH OUT TOMORROW MORNING.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? NO.
BUT FOR NEXT WEEK, JUST TO, AS A REMINDER, THE BANNER PROJECT FOR THE, UM, I DUNNO IF EVERYONE SAW THE EMAIL FOR THE, UH, KEN JOBS.
'CAUSE THEY NEED TO GET THAT MOVING.
AND THEN I, UH, UH, AM REMISS THAT I DID NOT ADD TO THE AGENDA THE FINAL ICE RESOLUTION.
SO I'LL HAVE THAT READY FOR REVIEW BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST MAYBE GET IT ON.
WE'VE ALSO, WE ALSO NEED TO, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REVISIT THE GASIER LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE, THE COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, WE TOLD, WE TOLD THE COMMITTEE.
WE TOLD THE COMMITTEE WE'D GET BACK TO 'EM BY APRIL.
SO I KNOW WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY BUSY AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, WE NEED TO FIND A DATE WHERE WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE SCHEDULE.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW OR ASK QUESTIONS.
SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEPS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LEAF BLOWER LAWS.
LET'S FINISH ONE THING AT A TIME.
CAN YOU JUST RECIRCULATE THE THANK YOU.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SETTING A TIME, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE MONTHS ABOUT REVIEWING THE LEAF LOWER LAWS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE WHEN WE NEED ONE OTHER BOARD MEMBER.
I KNOW JOY WANTS TO PUT IT ON FOR DISCUSSION AND I'D LIKE TO PUT IT ON FOR DISCUSSION.
PAUL, WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL? I DON'T HAVE A PROPOSAL.
I BASICALLY WANT TO HEAR WHAT, WHAT, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH, UM, EVERY OTHER THING.
WE NEED TO GET A CONSENSUS AND SEE WHAT THE BOARD WOULD, UH, WOULD BE WILLING TO UM, A CONSENSUS ON WHAT THOUGH? YEAH, A CONSENSUS ON DOING SOMETHING STRONGER, OUR
BUT YOU KEEP WRITING BACK ABOUT THE GAS FAILURE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENFORCED.
AND BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ADOPTED IT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
WE, WE TRIED, UH, PUBLICIZING IT.
PEOPLE ALWAYS EMAIL ME AND CALL ME AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE PHONE CALLS AND EVERY WHEN THEY CALL THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY N YOU KNOW, THEY SAY THEY'RE TOO BUSY AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA ADDRESS IT.
SO WE HAVE TO, SO WAIT, THE POLICE SAID, THE POLICE SAID THAT THEY'RE TOO BUSY.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME.
YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, CONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE CALLING.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ONE VIOLATION OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE, UH, SINCE WE ADOPTED IT.
AND ALL I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.
WE SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH, UM, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS REASONABLE AND COULD, COULD WORK, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITIES.
DO FERRY HAS SOMETHING, HAVE SOMETHING FOR US TO LOOK AT? NO, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD LOOK AT THE SCARSDALE LAW, WE COULD COULD LOOK AT THE SCARSDALE LAW.
WELL IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA COME UP WITH THAT SCARSDALE LAW FOR US TO LOOK AT AHEAD OF TIME, IF THEY AND POINT OUT WHAT NOT, THEY CHANGED THEIR LAW AND I DON'T LIKE THEIR LAW AT ALL.
BUT, BUT YOU, YOU KEEP WRITING.
EXCUSE ME, I JUST, AND I DON'T WANNA GET INTO IT.
CAN I FINISH MY SENTENCE? I, I'M SORRY, WHICH BEGIN? I JUST WAS FINISHED.
OH, I, I HEARD, UM, WHAT, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
IF YOU GIVE US SOMETHING RATHER TO, TO AS A START POINT, WHETHER IT'S THE SCARSDALE LAW OR SOME OTHER LAW AND I, AND POINT TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER
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AND THEN THAT CAN BE A JUMPING OFF POINT FOR US.BUT THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
SO MAY THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
SO CAN I MAKE, WELL I ACTUALLY HAVE A DRAFT THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE.
IT'S BEEN HARD TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
BUT I WOULD, FROM MY OWN SCHEDULE, I'M GONNA BE AWAY, UH, FROM UH, APRIL 14TH UNTIL THE 28TH.
SO I'M HO I'M ASKING IF WE COULD DO IT AFTER THAT.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION.
UM, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF THAT LAW.
UM, AND THE POLICE WERE VERY, VERY RESPONSIVE.
SO THERE WAS NOT, THERE WAS TOO BUSY.
BUT WHAT THE ISSUE WAS, WHEN THEY CALL FOR THE LEAF BLOWERS, THEY CALL AFTER THE TIME PERIOD THEY CALL AFTER THEY LEAVE, THEY DO NOT CALL WHEN THE TIME'S HAPPENING.
WHEN I CALLED IT WAS SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS METROPOLIS THAT, 'CAUSE I LIVE RIGHT IN BACK OF METROPOLIS AND COME TO FIND OUT IT WAS NOT.
SO AGAIN, I I JUST TOOK OFFENSE TO THAT STATEMENT.
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY ATTENTIVE, ESPECIALLY TO, UM, NOISE COMPLAINTS.
PEOPLE DO HAVE TO CALL IN REAL TIME, OTHERWISE THERE'S NOTHING CAN BE DONE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD DO AN ANALYSIS OF UM, HOW EFFECTIVE THE LAURA IS.
I I I JUST KNOW, WELL I'VE SENT THE BOARD MEMBERS COPIES OF, YOU KNOW, MANY EMAILS.
SO YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS, BUT, BUT, BUT I KEEP WRITING BACK TO YOU PAUL IS WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL? NO, BECAUSE WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH, IT HASN'T WORKED.
RIGHT? BECAUSE NOTHING'S WORKED FOR, FOR AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN SUPERVISOR.
'CAUSE IT GOES WAY BACK BEFORE, EVEN BEFORE I WAS THERE.
UH, BUT THE THING IS, UH, IT NOT GIVE US A PROPOSAL THAT NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU WRITE BACK TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE SAYING, I I I AGREE WITH YOU.
IT'S USUALLY ABOUT GAS VERSUS ELECTRIC.
I'M HOPING THE TOWN BOARD WILL TAKE THIS UP AND I ALWAYS RESPOND STATING I I JUST GAVE UP ACTUALLY.
PAUL, WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL? IF YOU WANT TO BAN GAS BLOWERS, THEN JUST SAY THAT AND WE COULD WORK ON A LAW TO BAN GAS BILL LOWERS.
BUT I WANNA SAY IF THE BOARD BASICALLY WOULD BE, UH, OPEN TO IT, BUT JOY, YOU KNOW, INDICATED THAT YOU HAVE, YOU COME UP WITH YOUR OWN PROPOSAL.
SO THE THING IS, IF YOU FEEL THAT UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE DONE, UH, SOME RESEARCH AND YOU THINK WE COULD GET THREE VOTES ON IT, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
SEE NO, I'M SAYING IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING, COULD I JUST SAY WHILE THE CURRENT LAW IS ON THE BOOKS, IF ANYONE HAS A NOISE COMPLAINT ISSUE, INSTEAD OF EMAILING ABOUT IT, IT'S BEST TO CALL THE POLICE NON-EMERGENCY LINE IN REAL TIME.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO STILL GET OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY USE THE DECIMAL READER AND, AND SEE IT THEMSELVES AND AND HEAR IT THEMSELVES.
AND A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU DON'T ACT IMMEDIATELY, THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS OR WRITING TO A BOARD MEMBER IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE BY THE TIME THE BOARD MEMBER READS IT AND THEN THEY RESPOND, THAT'S NOT CALLING THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER DIRECTLY.
SO THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
AND IF I MAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IS IF YOU POST THE LAW AGAIN, PUT IT ON YOUR, AND REFER TO THE TIME CONSTRAINTS AND THE PROCESS SO THAT YOU'RE REFRESHING THE MEMORY OF RESIDENTS SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, POINT FINGERS OR WHATEVER.
I'LL POST THE LAW, I'LL UM, PUT IN THE TIME RESTRAINTS, I'LL TELL PEOPLE TO CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN IF BY SOME CHANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY CALL THE DESK AND THEY SAY, OH WE'RE TOO BUSY OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, THEN WE WILL HAVE SOME IN INFO, YOU KNOW, THEN VODKA GIVES THE BOARD'S SUPPOSED, WELL LET'S NOT DEFAULT TO FIGURING THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM, FROM AND STAFF AND FROM RESIDENTS.
WE NEED TO FIND, WE NEED TO REVAMP OUR WEBSITE INFORMATION WHERE THAT PARKING LOT NEEDS TO BE AS FOR IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE A NOISE COMPLAINT, YOU MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE TELEPHONE NUMBER AND EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.
AND IT SHOULD BE ONE OR TWO BULLETS.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A DISSERTATION 'CAUSE NO ONE'S GONNA READ IT.
SO THIS IS THE TIME NOW WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE.
BECAUSE OUR WEBSITE IS NOT USER FRIENDLY EVER.
SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIND THINGS AND IT NEEDS TO BE RIGHT UP FRONT.
YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
ANYTIME WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF NEW LAWS OR OR ANNOUNCEMENTS OR MESSAGING, ANYTHING IT NEEDS TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE THEY DON'T NEED TO SEARCH FOR IT.
SO ANYTHING ELSE? SO SHOULD WE ASK PETER, UM, ASPEN, JOE ESE TO, BUT PETER HAS A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR HIM TO COMPUTE? NO, NO.
PETER HAS A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR HIM TO COMPLETE.
I WOULD HATE TO ADD ANOTHER PROJECT SINCE WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR HIM TO COMPLETE ALL THE OTHER ONES.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD MENTION TO HIM IF WE THIS, AND WE'VE MENTIONED TO HIM, WE TALKED TO HIM WHEN HE CAME ON BOARD, WE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS
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SO HE'S AWARE THAT WE HAD OUR CHALLENGES WITH OUR WEBSITE.UM, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN MENTION IT, BUT WE REALLY WANNA SEE THE OTHER PROJECTS COMPLETED.
IT'S, AND IT'S EVEN MORE THAN JUST THE WEBSITE.
WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION, WE SHOULD BE DOING A FULL LOOK AT ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS.
BOTH, BOTH EXTERNAL, THE WEBSITE.
EVERYTHING'S GONNA, 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON.
THERE IS NO STRUCTURE OR ANYTHING.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, ALRIGHT, AND LET ME JUST ASK ONE, LET ME ASK ONE IN TERMS OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, ON, YOU KNOW, WE HIRED A LAWYER OVER A YEAR AGO, ABOUT A YEAR AND A QUARTER AND YOU KNOW, WE STILL DON'T HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY.
SO I PRESENTED THAT A FEW WEEKS AGO.
I GOT SOME FEEDBACK, WENT BACK, MY LAW INTERN HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
SHE FIXED A LOT OF THE ISSUES.
I'M DOING ONE MORE RUN THROUGH OF IT TO REPRESENT TO THE BOARD.
AND IF THERE ARE NO ISSUES, I CAN SEE IT BEING PASSED EITHER A SECOND APRIL MEETING OR AT A MAY MEETING AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO MAJOR ISSUES PICKED UP BY THE BOARD.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SHALL WE GO AHEAD.
SHALL WE? WHAT? GOING TO EXECUTIVE? OH, I DON'T KNOW.
GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.