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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ]
TODAY IS THURSDAY, APRIL 2ND, 2026.THIS IS THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD MEETING AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TOWN HALL IN THE LEE F JACKSON ROOM.
BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, LET ME TAKE ATTENDANCE.
HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM IN A PUBLIC LOCATION ACCESSIBLE TO PAUL FOR A PUBLIC MEETING.
FRANCIS SHEEN PRESENT, AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF AEROSMITH.
DAN, HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME? FERRY.
WE ARE REVIEWING WHAT WE CAN FROM A SUBMISSION FOR 2 0 3 CHELSEA ROAD, WHICH IS NOW THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE CHANGED THE NUMBER TO 2 0 9.
I'M NOT CLEAR WHY, BUT THEY DID.
I WANT TO PUT OFFICIALLY ON THE RECORD THAT IF SOMETHING IS PRESENTED TO US IN THIS FORMAT, AGAIN, WE WILL REJECT IT OUTRIGHT.
I COMPARED IT TO PLAYING 52 CARD PICKUP WHEN I WAS A CHILD.
THE PAPERS HAVE NO NUMBERS ON THEM.
THEY WERE PUT IN A BLUE NOTE, A LOOSE LEAF NOT ATTACHED TO THE LOOSE LEAF.
THIS IS WHAT AN APPLICATION LOOKS LIKE.
THE PAPERS ARE THERE, THE TABS.
IDENTIFY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY FIND THE DOCUMENTS.
MANY OF THE DOCUMENTS WERE EITHER NOT HERE OR NOT AVAILABLE TO BE FOUND.
I DID THE VERY BEST I COULD AND IT, AND I WILL WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD, GO AS FAR AS WE CAN.
BUT IF SOMETHING COMES IN, IN THIS DISARRAY, AGAIN, IT WILL BE PROMPTLY SENT BACK.
ANY QUESTIONS BY ANYBODY? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AND I APOLOGIZE.
I APOLOGIZE AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IF I MISUNDERSTOOD OR MISLABELED OR WHATNOT, BUT I AP.
I AP I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING FORWARD AND I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST IN THE FUTURE.
IN THE VERY FIRST PAGE, THE ADDRESS IS, UH, 2 0 3 CHELSEA ROAD, GREENBURG.
THERE'S ONLY ONE PART OF THIS ENTIRE TOWN IDENTIFIED AS GREENBURG, AND THAT IS THE TOWN HALL.
THE REST HAVE OTHER POST OFFICE ADDRESSES.
THIS IS NOT GREENBURG THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED THROUGHOUT.
THAT'S ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE.
SO ON THAT, YOU WOULD PUT WHITE PLAINS OR POST OFFICE WHITE PLAINS WITH THE CORRECT 1 0 6 0 3.
WELL, NO, IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE FOR CHELSEA ROAD HERE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
CHELSEA ROAD, UH, IF HE WANTS TO PUT WHITE PLAINS OR HE CAN PUT POST OFFICE WHITE PLAINS, NEW YORK.
IS THE ZIP CODE 1 0 6 0 3? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THERE.
WHERE DID YOU GET THE 1 0 6 0 3 FROM? UH, HONESTLY, NOT SURE.
I SEE WHITE PLAINS ALSO RUNS UNDER 1 0 6 0 7.
AND IT MIGHT BE ELMSFORD OR IT MIGHT BE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S EL IT'S ON THAT SIDE OF THAT.
WELL IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT IT'S OFF OF DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
HE CAN GET THIS IN ORDER AND HE CAN LOOK IT UP.
A QUALIFICATIONS ARE NOT PROVIDED HERE.
UM, ALSO THE PEOPLE ARE ATTESTING TO THE ENTIRE APPLICATION.
NOT, I, SINCE I CAN'T SEE WHAT ANYBODY SIGNED.
IT'S VERY HARD TO KNOW WHO SHOULD BE ATTESTING TO WHAT, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED HERE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE ATTESTING TO THE ENTIRE APPLICATION, NOT JUST WHAT THEIR SPECIALTY MIGHT HAVE BEEN APPLICABLE TO.
WE HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE MUST ATTEST TO WHAT THEY PROVIDED.
UH, IF THEY'RE DOING A NOISE REPORT, NOISE STUDY, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING FOR AND HAVE IT PUT NEXT TO IT AND THE QUALIFICATIONS, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS FOR DOING SUCH.
IF SOMEBODY HAS, IS WORKING FOR YOUR COMPANY, THEY HAVE WORKED FOR THAT COMPANY FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS IN THAT CAPACITY.
IF THEY'RE NEW, THEN THEY WORK SOMEPLACE ELSE BEFORE FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS IN THAT CAPACITY.
SOMETHING TO IDENTIFY THAT THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE THE SKILL TO DO THIS.
UNDER B, LEMME JUST START WITH THEM.
QUALIFICATIONS, QUALIFICATIONS
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FOR EACH PERSON REQUIRED TWO SIGN AT THE STATION SHOULD REFLECT THE WORK THEY ACTUALLY DID.B, YOU'RE YOU ARE PROVIDING THE APPLICATION.
I'M AN AGENT FOR AT T I'M SORRY.
I'M AN AGENT FOR AT TI AM NOT WITH AT T.
SO THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS IN B UNDER APPLICANT.
SO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS INDEED THE TOWN OF GREENBERG? YES.
UH, FRANCIS WITH THE GREENBERG, NEW YORK.
IS THAT 1 0 6 0 3 OR 1 0 6 0 7 HERE.
IF IT, IF THEY USE BY PLAINS, IT'S 1 0 6 0 3, THE SITE OR APPLICANT 6 0 3, YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU ARE, THAT AT AND T IS THE APPLICANT OR SINGULAR WHATEVER YOU, WHATEVER YOU MM-HMM.
YOU CAN IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS THE COMMUNI PERSON WITH WHOM TO COMMUNICATE FOR, BUT YOU'RE NOT, ONCE THIS IS DONE, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WE WANT.
I'M THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR AT AND T.
SO THAT APPLICANT NEEDS TO SAY YOU ARE THE, THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT AT AND T.
GOT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO CARE.
MAKE AN ISSUE OF, UM, THE PO THE POST, THE ADDRESS IS WRONG BECAUSE IT HAS GREENBERG, SO THAT'S C INCOMPLETE.
AND YOU SHOULD WRITE AKA BECAUSE A LOT OF THE, THE TOWN'S DOCUMENTS TILL TWO UNTIL NOW HAVE BEEN 2 0 3, CHELSEA MM-HMM
BUT NOW IT IS REFERRED TO AS 2 0 9, SO YOU SHOULD ADDRESS IT AS 2 0 9 AKA.
BUT THERE'S NO WAY YOU WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT.
DID THEY SAY WHY THEY CHANGED IT? THEY, SHE SAID THAT THE APPRA, THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE DID, SHE DIDN'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR IT.
THE D IS COMPLETE, I BELIEVE THE ZONING DISTRICT, FRANCIS, FROM WHAT I COULD SEE IS FOR, CORRECT.
I WENT TO THE, THE, THE PAGE ON THE GIS.
IT'S R 10 LISTED ON THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION.
AT LEAST F IS INCOMPLETE ON MULTIPLE LEVELS.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE ORGANIZATION OF THE APPLICATION BEGINS TO FALL APART DRAMATICALLY.
BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND ANYTHING.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS AN INCOME, UH, AN AFFIDAVIT THAT IS NOT EVEN FILLED OUT.
UM, AT AND T UH HA WAS ON THE WATER TANK AT
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ONE TIME.UH, CURRENTLY THIS, UH, LOCATION HAS A CELL ON WHEELS.
UH, SO IT'S A TEMP INSTALLATION.
UH, THE TOWN, UH, IS WORKING WITH AT AND T TO BASICALLY, UH, NEGOTIATE A NEW LEASE ON THE TOWER AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, BASICALLY ARE LOOKING FOR US TO MOVE BACK TO THE TANK IMMEDIATELY, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE, PROVIDE OUR COVERAGE NOW THAT THOSE TALKS ARE STILL IN PROGRESS OR PROCESS.
AND BASICALLY, UH, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM THE PERMITTING, OF COURSE.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE WHY THERE WOULD BE NO CURRENT LEASE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THERE ARE NEGOTIATIONS AND IF YOU TALK TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT SITUATION.
SO FOR THE, WE NEED EVERY, LET ME STOP YOU.
WE NEED EVERYTHING IN WRITING AND WE NEED AN AFFIDAVIT THAT ATTESTS TO THE FACT SHOULD THE FLEECE GO THROUGH THE TOWN, GIVES YOU, GIVES AT AND T PERMISSION.
TO BACK ON IT, WE ALSO NEED, FROM THE LETTER THAT YOU PROVIDED FROM AT AND T HAS, THAT SAYS YOU WORK ON BEHALF OF THEM AT ALL, FACILITIES DOES NOT GIVE ANY IDENTIFICATION FOR, LET ME TRY AND HERE THIS LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION, IT WAS WRITTEN IN 2018 MM-HMM
UM, AND IT SAYS ON BEHALF OF AT AND T, THE LETTER OF AGENCY PROVIDES WRITTEN APPROVAL THAT AEROSMITH DEVELOPMENT, ITS AGENCY, IT IT, AND GOES ON.
IT GIVES NO IDENTIFICATION FOR THE SITE.
IT GIVES NO IDENTIFICATION THAT THIS IS ONGOING.
WE REQUIRE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THIS IS CURRENT.
THIS DOESN'T, THIS IS NOT, UM, I, AND IF YOU GUYS CAN FIND IT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT.
UM, NO, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO IT HAS TO BE FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR SITE.
SO WE NEED SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT SAYS FROM THE TOWN TO AT AND T.
SHOULD YOU BE, SHOULD THE LEASE GO THROUGH, WE AUTHORIZE YOU TO USE THE FACILITY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LEASE IS NOT SIGNED.
BUT WE NEED SOMETHING FROM THE TOWN THAT SAYS IT'S IN PROCESS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE ANYBODY CAN COME IN AND REPRESENT ANYTHING AS AN ONGOING DISCUSSION.
AND WE THEN PUT IT TO THE SIDE.
WE DON'T PUT ANYTHING TO THE SIDE.
SO I, I WILL WORK WITH, UH, THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GET, UM, THAT OWNER'S AFFIDAVIT SIGNED IN, UH, FOR THE FUTURE, I GUESS SO TO SPEAK.
WELL, FOR NEXT TIME YOU SUBMIT, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT TO FIX HERE.
SO THE NEXT TIME YOU SUBMIT FOR THIS MM-HMM
I'LL CHECK WITH THE TOWN AND PARENT'S OFFICE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THAT LISA GAVE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN OUR HANDS OR WAS IT PUT BACK TO, UM, AT T IT WAS SENT BACK TO AT T.
OH, IT WAS SENT BACK TO AT AND T.
SO IT, SO IT'S FALLS IN YOUR COURT.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THAT'S A, A GOOD THING AND THEY'RE WORKING ON IT AND WE'LL BE GETTING BACK TO YOU 'CAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S EXCITED TO JUST GET THIS COMPLETED.
SO WE NEED THE COMPLETED AFFIDAVIT.
WE NEED A LETTER SPECIFIC TO THE SITE WITH CURRENT DATE AUTHORIZING
NOW ONTO G WE ARE VERY AWARE THAT THERE IS A TEMPORARY SITE.
UM, YEAH, NO, I, I, I FIGURED AS MUCH LOOKING AT G THE DESCRIPTION SAYS
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DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK, AND WE NEED ALL DETAILS HERE.AND RIGHT NOW IT SAYS THE SCOPE OF THE WORK FOR THIS UPGRADE IS AS DEPICTED ON THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS PREPARED BY GT WIRELESS ENGINEERING DATED 7 16 20 25, ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT E, REMOVING NINE ANTENNAS OF TEMPORARY STRUCTURE AND REPLACING WITH NINE NEW ANTENNAS, REMOVING 12 RHS AND REPLACING WITH 12 NEW RHS INSTALLING THREE DC NINE, ET CETERA.
THERE'S, THIS IS AN EXISTING SITE, SO THIS WILL BE, THERE WILL BE NO EXCAVATION.
WHERE ARE YOU PUTTING THOSE, UH, ANTENNAS RIGHT BACK ON THE TEMPORARY INSTALLATION? NO, ONTO THE WATER TANK.
UH, IT DOES NOT SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING ON THE CAROUSEL, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH, THE NEWER, UH, VERSION OF THE WATER TANK.
YES, I READ THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT REFERENCES THE TEMPORARY SITE WHERE YOU'RE REMOVING AND, AND IT DOES NOT REFERENCE WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THEM.
AND THAT'S WHY I READ THAT PARAGRAPH.
ARE THERE ANY CABLES BEING MOVED? I AM, UM, PRETTY POSITIVE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO ALL THAT KIND OF WORK.
UH, WELL, THREE, TWO INCH CONDUITS, UH, SIX PIPE TO PIPE CLAMPS.
SO THAT IS LISTED SIX GAUGE, UH, DC POWER TRUNK.
ARE YOU REMOVING ANY FROM THE TEMPORARY? EVERYTHING WILL BE REMOVED.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT ARE THERE CABLES ATTACHED TO THE TEMPORARY? UH, THE ODDS ARE PRETTY GOOD.
THERE'S CABLES ATTACHED TO THE, YEAH.
AND THEY'RE NOT MENTIONED HERE.
UH, I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK IF YOU DON'T MIND.
WHERE DID YOU, ARE YOU USING THE SAME CABLES? NO, THAT, NO, I, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT SIZES, DIFFERENT LENGTHS.
IT'S A WHOLE NEW INSTALLATION IN E UH, IN ESSENCE, UH, ALTHOUGH, ALTHOUGH THE EQUIPMENT MIGHT BE IN THE SAME LOCATION, THE CABLE SIZES AND LENGTHS WOULD RUN IN THE CONDUITS AND GO UP, AND I'M PRETTY POSITIVE THAT'S IN THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, BUT I'M, I'M TAKING A LOOK NOW.
THAT'S WHY I STRESS THE WORD ALL WORK NECESSARY TO BE COMPLETED.
IT SHOWS, UH, IN THE DRAWINGS, JUST, UH, FOR INFO PROPOSED 24 PAIR OF FIBER, IT SHOWS WHERE THE CONDUITS ARE.
UM, THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED EQUIPMENT PLAN ARE BASICALLY THE SAME.
SO WHATEVER'S COMING OUT OF THE EXISTING, UH, EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW AND GOING TO THE TEMPORARY INSTALLATION, THAT THOSE CABLES WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE TEMP SITE AND THEN YES, UH, THEY WOULD GO UP THE WATER TANK, THE LEGS AND THE CONDUIT.
AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT OF THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS? A O2.
THAT'S THE ELEVATION AND EQUIPMENT PLANS.
AND I, I'M LOOKING AT THAT AND I NOTICED THAT MOST LIKELY YOU ARE GOING TO WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ALTHOUGH THE ELEVATIONS ARE ALL THERE, TOP OF ANTENNAS AND ALL THAT.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT PART.
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT PART.
SO REMAINING ON THIS ONE, YOU NEED TO, AND WE STICK VERY CLEARLY TO THIS, A DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK NECESSARY, INCLUDING THE MOVING OF CABLES, ET CETERA, MUST BE WRITTEN HERE.
IT'S NOT SELECTIVE, IT'S NOT WHAT A CONTRACTOR THINKS IS IMPORTANT.
IT'S ALL WORK THAT MUST OCCUR.
H IS COMPLETE AND I IS COMPLETE.
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TO LOOK PER J AND I'M NOT GONNA HUNT FOR ANYTHING.THE, THERE ARE SECTIONS OF THIS THAT HAVE, THAT DO AND DON'T HAVE HERE.
THIS, THIS HERE IS THIS, I CAN'T EVEN FIND IT NOW WHERE, UM, EXHIBIT C IS HERE, BUT I HAVE TO SEARCH.
EXHIBIT A IS WRITTEN ON THE BACK OF ONE OF THE SHEETS.
AND AFTER THAT THERE IS, WHERE DID I I HAVE IT CIRCLED.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU COULDN'T LOCATE THE MATH ANALYSIS OR THE STRUCTURAL DID I JUMP AHEAD? ONE SECOND.
I SAID JAY, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE JAY WAS AND WE'RE NOT SEARCHING IF IT'S NOT PROPERLY IDENTIFIED, WE'RE NOT SEARCHING.
I'M PRETTY SURE I INCLUDED MULTIPLE EIGHT, AT LEAST EIGHT COPIES OF THAT.
NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT YOU.
I'M NOT SAYING'S YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, I TOLD YOU IT HAS TO BE IDENTIFIED.
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S AN EXHIBIT E, RIGHT? UH, I I BELIEVE IT WAS J NO, IT'S ITEM J.
BUT YOU SAID INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT E AND I COULDN'T FIND AN EXHIBIT.
AND I COULDN'T FIND EXHIBIT E.
THAT'S WHY EXHIBIT E IS, I WAS JUST SAYING IT WAS INCLUDED AND I APOLOGIZE IF I INSULTED YOU THAT A HERE.
SO APPARENTLY WE HAVE DIFFERENT, I DON'T THINK I'VE AN EXHIBIT E.
SO ONE OF US GOT AN EXHIBIT E AND NOBODY ELSE DID THE SHEET.
IEI HAD A AND D, WHICH A'S ON THE BOTTOM OF ANOTHER SHEET, WHICH MAKES NO SENSE.
I DON'T DON'T EVEN HAVE C AND I HAVE A CI, BUT WHEN I GOT TO E, I COULDN'T FIND E AND IT'S REFERENCED HERE, BUT NO.
YEAH, BUT WHAT'S BEHIND E? IT'S AT THE BACK.
IT'S WHAT? IT'S AT THE BACK OF IT.
I WENT THROUGH THIS, THIS IS HOW I SPENT MY NIGHT.
YOU WANNA LOOK AT, IT SAYS THIS IS AN ANALYSIS, THIS IS WHAT'S A PASSING STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS.
UH, A PASSING STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS MEANS THE, THE SITE OR LOCATION IS SUITABLE AND FOR CONSTRUCTION IT'S SAFE AND CAN BE, UH, YOU MEAN A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS THAT SAID IT PASSED? YEAH, IT'S JUST BASICALLY SAYING IT'S, IT'S SAFE AND IT'S SIGN AND SEAL AND THE MOUNT.
UH, IT SHOWS A PASSING STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS FOR THE PROPOSED ANTENNA FOR BEND.
AND THERE'S ALSO A SEPARATE MOUNT ANALYSIS, WHICH ALSO SHOWS HIS PASSING.
UH, THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE ANTENNAS CONNECT TO AND HOW THEY CONNECT.
AND THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT THAT ALSO PASSES AND IT'S SAFE IN WRITING THAT PARAGRAPH.
COULD YOU CORRECT THE LANGUAGE SO THAT IT SAYS IT IS THAT IT HAS BEEN DEEMED THAT IT PASSES RATHER THAN A PASSING STRUCTURE ANALYSIS? SURE.
AND ALSO MAKE SURE EACH OF US GETS AN E.
I SPEND A LOT OF TIME, WE ALL SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING THIS.
I DON'T HAVE IT THAT I SPEND TIME LOOKING FOR IT, THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M SITTING HERE SEARCHING THROUGH PAGES THAT ARE NO COHESIVE FASHION.
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ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT? I LOST IT HERE.DIANE, DID YOU TAKE IT BACK? THE ANALYSIS? DID YOU TAKE THE ANALYSIS BACK OR DO I STILL HAVE IT? NO, I TOOK IT BACK.
E THE CAROUSEL, BA BORAL, I GUESS.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANTENNAS BE ATTACHED DIRECTLY TO THE OUR TOWERS ANYMORE.
UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT UP THE CORRAL.
THEN YOU ATTACH TO THE CORRAL, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.
UH, YEAH, BECAUSE THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT VOIDING ANY WARRANTIES FOR PAINT AND ALL THAT.
MS. DIANE POINTED OUT, UM, GREENBERG IS ALSO MISSPELLED AT DIFFERENT POINTS.
YOU LEFT OFF THE H IN A FEW PLACES ON GREENBERG.
YEAH, I I DEFINITELY DO APOLOGIZE.
I SHOULD HAVE DONE A SPELL CHECK ON THAT.
IT'S ALSO WITHOUT THE H AT THE COUNTY OFFICE, UH, OR UH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY CENTER, BUT THAT'S APPARENTLY AT SOME POINT THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE H AND THEN, UM, GOT AT IT.
UM, WE HAVE ALWAYS, I'M LOOKING AT THIS ANALYSIS.
WE HAVE ALWAYS REQUIRED THAT THE ANALYSIS BE FOR THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE.
AND THIS SAYS IT IS A PLEASURE TO SUBMIT THENCE MOUNT ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE ANTENNA MOUNT ON THE ABOVE MENTIONED TOWER.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT? THAT'S WHAT DIANE HAD.
THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A STRUCTURAL, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OF THE WHOLE WATER TANK.
UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, UM, THAT WOULD GET FROM TOWN WOULD HAVE, BUT I WOULDN'T HAVE IT.
UH, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR MAPS AND EVERYTHING, FOR THE ANTENNAS AND WHATNOT, UH, SITTING AT THE TOP OF THE WATER TANK, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROVIDE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED.
RIGHT? SO YOU WOULD GET IT FROM THE TOWN AND INCLUDE IT, AND THEY MUST GET IT FROM THE TOWN AND PUT IT IN THIS APPLICATION.
WE FOLLOW THE CODE AND HE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE.
WE'VE NEVER SEEN SOMEBODY SUBMIT JUST THE AMOUNT ITSELF.
SO AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE, WE'VE SENT THEM BACK.
RIGHT? NO, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
UH, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A NEWER WATER TANK AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON FILE.
I ASSUME THAT THE TOWN HAD IT LIKELY.
UM, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I REQUEST IT FROM THE TOWN DIRECTLY FROM THE WATER DISTRICT.
SO I HAVE WRITTEN CORRECT THE LANGUAGE TWO, MAKE SURE IT IS INCLUDED IN AN, UM, IN EACH SUBMISSION.
THREE, CORRECT THE SPELLING OF GREENBERG FOUR PROVIDE A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS FOR THE WATER TOWER.
JUST GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ON THE ANALYSIS.
IT HAS, IT HAS GREENBERG SPELLED CORRECTLY, BUT
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IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GREENBERG THERE.WELL ALSO ANYTIME YOU SEE CHELSEA ROAD, BUT WHITE ALSO, THIS WHOLE THING HAS GREENBERG.
ONLY, ONLY GREENBERG TOWN HALL CAN YOU USE GREEN BRIDGE IN I THE FREQUENCY MODULATION AND CLASS OF SERVICES, A SERVICE OF RADIO EQUIPMENT, ALL THAT IS IDENTIFIED HERE IS FREQUENCY.
EACH OF THOSE NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED FREQUENCY MODULATION IN CLASS.
AND WHEN YOU REFER TO MODULATION, WHAT DO, WHAT ARE YOU, UH, REFERRING TO? LIKE WHAT IS THAT? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I AM NOT A, IT'S A CATEGORY.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT OFF OF YOUR EQUIPMENT OR, OR LOOK AT OUR PRIOR APPLICATIONS.
THEY, THEY ALL, IT'S, UH, I, I'M SORRY, I IT'S A REALLY, I, I I GOT OUT OF K AND KI DON'T, DIDN'T HAVE AN, IT SAYS MAKE AND MODEL OF AT AND T ANTENNAS CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE A OH FOUR OF THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS EXHIBIT AS EXHIBIT E.
SO IN EXHIBIT E YOU HAD MULTIPLE THINGS ALL IDENTIFIED, LIKE DRAWINGS AND STRUCTURAL OF THAT, I THINK OH FOUR.
SO THE DRAWINGS WERE E WHOOPS, DRAWING.
DAN, DID HE DISCONNECT? BECAUSE I HAVE NO E IDENTIFYING IT AS AN ATTACHMENT, BUT I HEAR, SEE HERE THAT EXHIBIT E SAYS THAT ON A FOUR AND A FOUR IS NORMALLY A DRAWING, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY IDENTIFICATION FOR ME TO TELL ME.
THIS IS E SO I'M ASKING DRAWINGS ARE E BECAUSE I THOUGHT EE IS THE STRUCTURAL DRAWING.
WHAT DOES IT SAY? I DON'T HAVE ONE.
SENSITIVITY IS THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS WHICH WE WENT THROUGH.
PLUS ALL, IT'S ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
I JUST KNEW THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR E AND I DIDN'T HAVE AN E AND NORMALLY ONE DOESN'T PUT THE, THE WAY THEY'VE DONE IT IS THEY'VE LINKED THE THINGS OF THE SAME SIZE TOGETHER AND IN THIS, IN A CATEGORY.
SO IS HE BACK WITH US OR IS HE GONE? GUS OR DAN? I GUESS IT IS.
WHAT DID HE DO? HE DROPPED OFF.
THESE ARE ALSO SMALLER DRAWINGS.
WE ASK FOR THE STANDARD SIZE DRAWINGS.
FOR THE STANDARDS SIZE DRAWINGS, WE ALSO GET THE WAY PEOPLE WHO NORMALLY PACKAGE THESE APPLICATIONS PUT THE SAME THINGS TOGETHER IN THE SAME SIZE.
DRAWINGS ARE NORMALLY A CATEGORY ONTO THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY'RE LARGER.
UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL SITTING HERE THAT THE DRAWINGS COULD WERE APPARENTLY E BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A NEED.
IT SAYS UP HERE, IT DIRECTS US, UM, FOUND A, A MAKE MODEL AND MANUFACTURER OF THE ANTENNAS ON THE LIST HERE.
IT SAYS SECTOR A POSITION ONE, BUT I SEE A MAKE, BUT UM, I DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, I DON'T ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS RIGHT NOW? YES, I AM.
IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE A ZERO FOUR? I DO SEE THE, UH, AS A ZERO FOUR CONSTRUCTION DETAILS.
UH, AND IT SHOWS THE MODELS OF THE ANTENNAS.
DOES IT SHOW THE NATE MODEL AND MANUFACTURER OF THE ANTENNAS? IT DOES COMMSCOPES, UH, ERICSSON'S, UH, MENTIONED AS THE RADIOS.
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UM, YEAH, SO, SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THE INFORMATION TO THE IDENTIFIED NATE MODEL AND AT T ANTENNAS CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE EIGHT FOUR OF THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT E.SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT E, RATHER 8 0 4, YOU TELL ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT THIS IS THE MANUFACTURER MODEL AND UM, AND MAYBE I'M MISSING IT.
MODEL AND MANUFACTURER, WHERE IS IT IDENTIFIED AS SUCH? UH, IF YOU SEE THE ANTENNA AND TRANSMISSION LINE BOMB AT THE TOP LEFT OF A FOUR, IT SAYS EXISTING ANTENNA.
RIGHT? AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MODEL NUMBERS RIGHT THERE, THE SIZE AND THEN WHAT HEIGHTS THEY'RE GONNA GO AT.
AND THE LENGTH OF THE, THE CORRECT.
THIS MAY SEEM VERY SILLY TO YOU.
NO, BUT WAIT, UH, JUST IF YOU DON'T MIND, LEMME JUST LET ME FINISH.
IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE MAKE IDENTIFY, WHAT IS THE MODEL, IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE MANUFACTURER.
THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THEM IDENTIFIED.
SO YOU ARE ASKING ME TO COME WITH A KNOWLEDGE AND AN EXPECTATION.
THEY'RE RIGHT THERE LISTED NEXT TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ANTENNA TRANSMISSION LINE BOMB.
YOU'LL SEE THE PICTURES AND THE MODEL NUMBERS OF THE ANTENNAS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE? I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT WHAT WE ASK FOR IS FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY, OH, ERICKSON IS THE, IS IS THIS 4, 4 9, 4 B 1 14 4 SLASH B 29 IS THIS AND THESE ARE THE DIMENSIONS.
AND THAT OTHERWISE EXPECTS YOU TO COME WITH A KNOWLEDGE OF THE WAY THEY CODE SOMETHING.
NO, THEY'RE ALL PICTURES OF EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA BE PROPOSED ONTO THE TOWER AND WITH THE MODEL NUMBERS THAT MATCH THE ANTENNA TRANSMISSION LINE BOMB.
SO IT, IT'S VERY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A TECHNICAL ISSUE.
IT'S LITERALLY A PICTURE THAT HAS THE MODEL NUMBER AND THEY'RE ALL THREE OF THOSE ANTENNAS ARE IN EACH SECOND.
YOU READ OUR CODE, IF YOU READ OUR CODE FROM 1996, WE HAVE NEVER TAKEN PICTURES AS THE ANSWER TO I EITHER THE VISUAL WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO SAY, LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE A FLAGPOLE.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
WE'VE NEVER ACCEPTED A VISUAL AS THE ANSWER.
PEOPLE PROVIDE THEM ALL THE TIME, THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE HAVE NO WAY OF HOLDING BY THAT.
SO WHAT WE ASK FOR IS, AND YOU'VE ATTEMPTED TO DO SO IN YOUR K ANSWERS, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY IDENTIFY THE COMPONENTS THAT WAY.
IT IS SIMPLY SAYING, THIS IS THE MAKE, THIS IS THE MODEL, THIS IS THE DEME, THIS IS THE, UM, MANUFACTURER.
OKAY, SO WE'LL, WE'LL ADD THAT INTO THE ANTENNA TRANSMISSION LINE BOMB ON THIS LIST.
PUT HEADINGS AT THE TOP OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE MAKE, WHAT IS THE MODEL, WHAT IS THE MANUFACTURER ALL IN ITS OWN OWN COLUMN.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY'RE HEADING ABOUT.
THAT R ON L THAT'S WHERE I, THE PAGES.
YOU IDENTIFY FREQUENCIES, BUT THE FRE THE FREQUENCIES, WHICH YOU DON'T IDENTIFY THE MODULATION IN CLASS, AND AS FRANCIS WAS SAYING, THEY ARE IDENTIFIABLE FROM YOUR PRODUCT.
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N IS INCOMPLETE.OF ALL THE ANTENNAS ON THE TOWER OR WATER TOWER OR WHATEVER, ROOFTOP.
ALL OF THEM COMBINED AT CERTAIN DISTANCES FROM THE ENTITY.
SO NORMALLY WE'VE BEEN TOLD IN THE PAST THAT, AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE AS I SAID, 96, THE ANGLE IS AT HITTING SOMEBODY AT LEAST SIX FEET TALL.
DO YOU HAVE SUCH A CHART? BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND ONE.
UH, NO, I, I WOULD THINK I WOULD HAVE TO UPDATE WHAT WE HAVE.
I WOULD SUGGEST, AND I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT PAST COMMUNICATION, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GO TO THE TOWN HALL AND LOOK AT AN APPLICATION AND LOOK AT IT THOROUGHLY AT HOW IT'S LAID OUT, WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS REPORT REQUIRES AND WHAT INFORMATION WE REQUIRE.
AND WE REQUIRE IT FOR ALL THE ANTENNAS ON TOP OF EVERY STRUCTURE, INCLUDING WATER TOWERS.
THEY WILL BE HAVING IT FOR THEIR LEASE, FOR THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
THEY WILL, I EXPECT THEY WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S ON TOP OF THE WATER TOWER THERE.
THEREFORE, THIS IS INCOMPLETE AND I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THE VALUE IN ACTUALLY LOOKING AT MANY, IF WE HAVE HAD SO MANY APPLICATIONS DEEMED COMPLETE TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT A COMPLETE APPLICATION INCLUDES.
HOW OFTEN DOES THE A RB MEET? IS IT ONCE A MONTH? WE MEET WITHIN A TIME CLOCK? YOU ARE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THIS, OF THIS, UH, SHOT CLOCK.
AND SO WE MEET BASED ON WHEN WE GET A SUBMISSION.
WE CAN'T MEET MONTHLY BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY FILES AN APPLICATION THE DAY AFTER WE MEET AS SOMEONE DO TODAY, AS SOMEBODY DID TODAY,
UH, SO WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T MEET IF WE DON'T HAVE APPLICATIONS AND WE MEET WHEN WE DO.
MAKES SENSE HOW BEST TO WRITE THAT I JUST WROTE MUST INCLUDE A CHART OF ALL ANTENNAS.
DON'T BE LET'S DO THAT ON A MONITORING PLAN.
I COULD NOT FIND A MONITORING PLAN, BUT MAYBE IT'S HERE.
WHERE WOULD ONE LOOK FOR MONITORING PLAN? I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE NEAR, IT SAYS NEAR NIER.
IT'S A NON INFERENCE STATEMENT AND ALSO A NEAR MONITORING PLAN.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
ALL THESE APPLICATIONS ARE NUMBERED.
SO THE REFERENCE BECOMES, IT'S ON PAGE 10 OR IT'S ON PAGE 50, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY FIND IT WITHOUT A HUNDRED PECK METHOD.
I BELIEVE IT WAS A SEPARATE, UH, PAGE.
THOSE THOSE ARE ALSO NUMBERED.
EVEN IF IT HAS TO BE HAND NUMBERED ON ONE AND THEN YOU COPY IT ALL SO THAT WE ALL HAVE PAGE NUMBERS.
EVEN BETTER WOULD THE DATES BATES NUMBERING THE A DES NUMBERING, BUT IF, UH, THE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN THERE NO NUMBERS.
YEAH, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT IT WAS.
UH, THE YEAR WAS A SEPARATE, UH, IT
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WAS A SEPARATE LETTER, UH, DONE BY THE RF ENGINEER.DIANE JUST GAVE ME THIS, THIS MAY BE IT SOMETHING YOU HAVE SENT SOMEPLACE.
IT HAS AT AND T AT THE TOP OF IT, UH, HAS A LOGO.
AND THAT'S D BY THE, NO, I DIDN'T FIND IT.
THAT IS THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN, UH, UH, CLOSED OUT.
THIS DOESN'T READ FRANCIS IN THE FIRST SENTENCE.
YOU'VE NEVER HAD A 45 DAY THIS AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED.
THE QUESTION HERE THAT IT WILL NOT, UM, IS A MONITORING PLAN FOR THE APPLICANT LOOKING THAT WILL PROVIDE ANNUAL STATEMENTS TO THE TOWN VERIFYING THE RADIO FREQUENCY ADMISSIONS DO NOT EXCEED THE APPLICABLE FCC REGULATIONS.
YES, I HEARD THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT.
AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, WHEN IT SAID TO THE TOWN WHO DID, WHO WAS IT PROVIDED TO? THEY SUBMIT EVERYTHING TO THE BILLINGS BROKER.
WHAT WE NEED IN THIS, THIS LETTER, AND I, I'VE ONLY READ THE FIRST AND SECOND PARAGRAPH, OKAY? MM-HMM
TELL ME IF IT'S IN THE REST OF IT THAT IT MUST SAY THAT THE, THAT THE, UM, THAT THE RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS DO NOT EXCEED THE APPLICABLE FCC REGULATIONS.
UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, IN THE NEAR MONITORING PLAN OR THE EME RF EQUIPMENT.
I'M SAYING THAT ITEM THREE UNDER N REQUIRES A MONITORING PLAN FOR THE APPLICATION EQUIPMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE ANNUAL STATEMENTS TO THE TOWN, VERIFYING THAT THE RADIOFREQUENCY ADMISSIONS DO NOT EXCEED THE APPLICABLE FCC REGULATIONS.
YOUR FIRST PARAGRAPH DOES NOT SAY THAT.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
WHAT'S THAT? IT? THE LAWYERS?
TRYING TO KEEP MY PAGES IN ORDER.
SO ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE NOISE PROFILE UNDER EXHIBIT C? I'M LOOKING AT TO WRITE, UH, PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS DATA AND IT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT
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THE, UH, OH, THE NEAR.AND THEN TWO, A SCREENSHOT IS INCLUDED ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE REPORT AND EXHIBIT C AND YES.
DO I GO PAGE SEVEN? THAT'S A GOOD, LET ME SEE IF THEY'RE REFERENCING THE NEAR, THEY MIGHT BE REFERENCING THE RF RF REPORT ITSELF.
I JUST FIND THIS BEYOND BELIEF.
ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT, WHY WOULD YOU LOOK FOR IT? OKAY.
WHAT I COUNT ON THIS TO BE SEVEN DOESN'T COME OUT TO, YOU SAID IT WAS PAGE SEVEN.
YEAH, IT WAS PAGE SEVEN OF EXHIBIT C.
WELL, IT'S NOT ON THIS AND OKAY, LET'S LOOK FOR MORE PAPER.
IF YOU, IF YOU, IF IT'S REFERENC.
WHAT'S THAT? IF YOU'RE REFERENCING THE EME PAGE SEVEN, IT SHOWS THE FREQUENCY BANDS, UH, ERP, UM, ANTENNA TYPE MANUFACTURER MODEL.
I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE THE DEPARTS CONFIGURATION THAT HAS ALL THE ANTENNAS THERE.
THAT'S THE, UH, I LOOK AT THIS FCC DECLINE.
IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CHART, IT DOES NOT HAVE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS? YEP.
I DO NOT SEE ONE ANTENNA NEXT TO THE OTHER TO GIVE US A CUMULATIVE.
I SEE AT AND T AND I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE OTHER ANTENNAS UP THERE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A CUMULATIVE AT 10 FEET.
AT 20 FEET AT 30 FEET AT 40 FEET AT 50 FEET AT 60 FEET UP TO 500.
BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER ANTENNAS EXCEPT FOR AT T THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
THE POLICE ANTENNAS ARE UP THERE AND THERE ARE OTHER FREQUENCY ANTENNAS UP THERE, JUST LIKE THERE ARE IN OUR OTHER WATER TOWERS.
AND AND THEY WERE, I THOUGHT, I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERENCING TELEPHONE.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT BASING IT ON YOUR TEMPORARY POLE, RIGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASING, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE THINGS, YOU'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE WATER TOWER YOU'RE ABOUT TO GO ON.
RIGHT? IT'S ALL PROPOSED AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO ON.
SO IF THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT IN, INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE, I'LL MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT.
OF COURSE, ON PAGE SIX, IT SAYS GENERAL RESULTS.
HOW MANY FEET AWAY IS GROUND LEVEL? UH, WELL, WHEREVER THE ANTENNAS ARE AT 200 AND CHANGE.
IF I LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION ROOMS, EXACTLY.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO, THIS, THIS IS NOT USEFUL TO US AT ALL.
WHAT IS USEFUL TO US IS THE CUMULATIVE AS IT GOES OUT FROM THE TOWER, RIGHT.
AT GROUND LEVEL 0.9413% IN ESTIMATE.
BUT IS, IS THAT, IS THAT AT TWO FEET AWAY FROM IT OR IS IT DIRECTLY DOWN? WE ALL KNOW THAT DIRECTLY UNDER A WATER TOWER OR UNDER A POLE, UNDER A ROOF DIRECTLY DOWN IS THE LEAST YOU'RE GONNA GET ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T GO DOWN UNLESS, SO IN THAT SAME WAY.
SO WE DON'T KNOW AT WHAT ANGLE THIS IS UNLESS I, AGAIN, AM NOT SEEING THE, THE DISTANCE.
BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FAR AWAY FROM THE JAR IT WAS? UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE QUITE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY PUT INTO THEIR, UM, EQUIPMENT TO, TO COME UP WITH THOSE.
SO I WOULD MAYBE I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION AS WELL AND SEE IF THEY CAN PUT IT IN THERE.
GRANTED WHAT IT'S AT THE BASE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE WHOLE WATER TOWER BLOCKING, AND I REITERATE, I REITERATE, GO TO THE TOWN, TAKE THE TIME AND LOOK AT WHAT A NEAR, UH, ONE OF THESE REPORTS INCLUDES.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE MANY OF THE THINGS REQUIRED, INCLUDING IT.
OUR TOWN IS SPELLED TWO DIFFERENT WAYS ON YOUR PAGE.
OTHERWISE YOU COULD DO A HUNDRED, 200 FEET, WHATEVER.
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THE REST OF MY APPLICATION.DID YOU LOOK AT THE NOISE PROFILE? I, UH, I DID.
I COULDN'T FIND THE INSURANCE.
UM, HUGH, I HAVE A BLANK PAGE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING DIFFERENT? IT SAYS, OH, BLANK.
IT'S, YEAH, YOU TALKING ABOUT Q SO, YEP.
YEAH, THE, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT UNTIL WE REALLY, UH, WORK IT OUT WITH THE WATER DISTRICT.
SO, UM, I, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TELL US WHETHER IT WILL BE THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS OR FIVE CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
OKAY? WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A DATE.
WE'RE ASKING THAT THESE THINGS, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE THIS AT DIFFERENT PLACES.
APPLICANTS USED TO COME IN AND THEY USED TO SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA GO UP.
THEY GOT A PERMIT AND THEN THEY DIDN'T, AND THEY CAME BACK AGAIN AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
WE HAD NEIGHBORS WHO SAID THAT THE EXCAVATION WENT ON FOR A LONG TIME, OR THE WORK AND THE SITE WENT ON FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'RE ASKING THAT THE, THE WORK BE PROVIDED, THE INFORMATION BE PROVIDED TO US, THAT IT WILL TAKE US TWO WEEKS OR ONE WEEK, OR IT WILL BE BACK TO, BUT THAT THEY'D BE BACK TO BACK DAYS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IF THERE IS A WEATHER PROBLEM.
AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY IN THE VERY FIRST THING WE REVIEWED, AND I BELIEVE IF IT WASN'T WITH YOU, IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE WHO WAS WORKING ON THE, THE SITE WE STRESSED.
AND I HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS SOMEWHERE THAT THIS MUST BE CONSECUTIVE DAYS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW.
WE WENT THROUGH THIS EXACT THING WHEN THEY WERE MOVING THE THINGS OFF.
THAT THIS WORK NEEDS TO BE CONSECUTIVE AND WE NEED IT WRITTEN HERE HOW MANY DAYS IT WILL TAKE YOU TO GET EVERYTHING BACK ON AND ONCE THE PERMIT IS GRANTED, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO GET THE CONTRACT BACK TO THE TOWN ANYWAY, SO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT, UM, YOU CAN WORK OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? ONCE, ONCE, UH, EVERYTHING IS EXECUTED.
IT'LL GENERALLY, AND I'M NOT GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE AND SAY IT'S GONNA TAKE 10 DAYS, 15 DAYS.
I WILL TALK TO MY CONSTRUCTION TEAM AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE WATER DISTRICT AND SEE WHAT, UH, WE COME UP WITH THERE.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ONCE YOU REMOVE IT FROM THE TEMPORARY TOWER, YOU HAVE TO RESTORE THE GROUND, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UH, WELL, IT HAS TO, ACCORDING TO THE, I'M SORRY, ACCORDING TO THE WRITING OF IT, IT HAS TO LOOK EXACTLY AS IT DID WITH BEFORE.
AND WE HAVE ALL PHO, WE ALL HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE YOU BROUGHT THAT IN.
AND WE DON'T MIND YOU, IT LOOKS BETTER, BUT CAN LOOK WORSE.
R THAT'S NOT A ACCEPTABLE ANSWER.
WHAT COLOR ARE THE ANTENNAS GOING TO BE? UM, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS GOING TO LOOK, LOOK LIKE ON THE GROUND UNDER THE WATER TOWER? OKAY.
UH, SO I MEAN, AS IT STANDS NOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, THE LEASE IS GONNA CALL OUT A PAINT TO MATCH OR NOT.
I'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S THE CASE.
I THINK IT WAS SPECIFIED IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WHEN WE MADE THE AGREEMENT TO TAKE A TEMPORARY FOR YOU TO MOVE IT ONTO THAT.
AND WE TALKED AT THE TIME ABOUT WHAT THEY HAD TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO, AND THE ONLY EXCEPTION THEY HAD WAS THIS WAS THE ONE GRANDFATHERED
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SITE IN GREENBURG WHEN WE PASSED THE 1996 LAW.SUBSEQUENTLY, WE INCLUDED AESTHETICS AND RELEASE RENEWALS.
SO, SO SAYING THAT IT DOES NOT APPLY IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER.
WE NEED DETAILS AS HOW WHAT THESE, UH, WHAT IS GOING, WHAT THE APPURTENANCE IS UNDER THE TOWER GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE ANTENNAS ARE GOING TO BE PAINTED.
UH, UNDER THE TOWER, UNDER THE WATER TOWER, UNDER THE, THEY HAVE A, YOU MEAN LIKE THE CONDUIT? SO WHAT IS GONNA BE IS IT'S GONNA, IT'S A DOME, RIGHT? AND THAT HAS A RING AROUND IT, RIGHT? THAT THEY THEN ATTACH TO THOSE RINGS.
RIGHT? SO YOU WANNA WHAT THE DOME IS? NO, THE, THE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE, UM, CABINETS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE UNDER THE TOWER.
WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE THE SAME AS THEY ARE NOW.
THAT EQUIPMENT IS STAYING THE SAME SPOT.
SO WRITE THAT AND THEN WE CAN GO OUT AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND PROVIDE IT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF IT'S IN COMPLIANCE.
SO ARE YOU RUNNING THE WIRES FROM THE SAME CABINETS THAT YOU WERE BEFORE TO ON THE TEMPORARY TOWER? NO, WHATEVER'S ON THE TEMPORARY TOWER, THOSE, UH, LINES WILL BE TAKEN OFF AND THEN, UH, NEW LINES WILL BE PUT BACK TO RUN UP TO THE TANK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE LONGER, UH, AND INSIDE CONDUIT AND ALL THAT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CABINETS ARE GONNA BE THE SAME AS WAS THERE BEFORE.
ARE YOU CURRENTLY, UH, USING THOSE CABINETS? WELL, LOOK, YEAH.
SO YES, IN GENERAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE PROBABLY, UM, SWAP, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IF, WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS RIGHT NOW, BUT GENERALLY WE'RE SWAPPING A CABINET AND RECONFIGURING ONE, BUT NOT A GENERAL REDO OF THE WHOLE COMPOUND.
IT'S JUST MAYBE A LITTLE, UH, A SWAP OF A CABINET.
DOES SAY THAT SWAPPING HERE, DOES IT SAY SWAPPING HERE? IT WOULD BE IN THE CONSTRUC.
SO IT, WHEN, WHEN WE ASKED YOU FOR WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING ON THE SITE? IF YOU'RE GONNA SWAP SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO SAY SWAPPING SOMETHING.
AND IF YOU'RE SWAPPING IT, IT CHANGES THE WHOLE THING OUT.
WE, IT, IT DOES AFFECT WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, CABINET LOOKS LIKE.
SO WE'RE REMOVING ONE POWER PLANT, WHICH IS COMING OUT.
UH, THEN THE BATTERY RACK THAT GOES NEXT TO IT IS BEING REMOVED.
SO THAT'S THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE COMING OUT.
AND THEN IN THEIR PLACE, WHICH YOU COULD CALL A SWAP IF YOU WANT, IS ANOTHER POWER PLANT AND A BATTERY RACK IN THE SAME LOCATIONS.
UM, THAT'S, SO ARE THESE LISTED THAT'S ON M TWO.
DID YOU LIST THAT? I I, YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, LIKELY ON I'M LOOKING ON G DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE THINGS? NO, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT'S INCLUDED BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL, UH, SAYING THAT WE WERE GONNA REMOVE AND THEN ADD THE TWO BACK.
SO I WILL, I DON'T THINK TO SEE IT HERE, IT'S ON, IT'S ONLY ON A O2.
SO IT PROBABLY MOST LIKELY IS NOT IN THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT EQUIPMENT'S BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT UP ON THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, I WAS REFERENCED.
OKAY, SO THAT'S G AND IT SAYS A DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK NECESSARY TO COMPLETE, INCLUDING CONSTRUCT AND INSTALL, CONSTRUCT AND INSTALL THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS.
AND ALL OF US LET DAN, ALL OF US WOULD LIKE TO BE DONE WITH THE APPLICATION, BUT THE APPLICATION WILL NEVER BE DONE UNTIL THE ANSWERS ARE ACTUAL, THE QUESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY ANSWERED.
SO MY SUGGESTION TO YOU IS IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU SEND AN EMAIL, A RESPECTFUL EMAIL.
I'VE NEVER SENT A DIS DISRESPECTFUL EMAIL, BUT OKAY.
I'LL PRODUCE AN EMAIL THAT ASKS THE QUESTION.
BUT IF SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE DONE THAT IS NECESSARY TO BE DONE FOR THIS SITE TO WORK, IT MUST BE LISTED HERE.
AND I, I HAD ALREADY SAID THAT I WOULD INCORPORATE THAT AFTER YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT.
AND I, I SAID I TOOK THE INITIATIVE AND SAID I WOULD DO THAT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL, YOU KNOW? YES.
I, I ENTIRELY UNDERSTAND AND IT, AND NOT TRYING TO PUSH BACK AT ALL.
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PLANT OR WHATEVER WHERE YOU CALLED IT IS GONNA BE REMOVED? YEP.UH, DO YOU KNOW THE COLOR OF THE REMAINING ONES? UH, I DON'T HAVE PHOTOS OF THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, I COULD PROBABLY PULL UP THE EXISTING COMPOUND IF I WANTED TO.
UH, IT MIGHT TAKE, SO PROBABLY WHATEVER, BUT THE NEW ONE GOING BACK IN, YOU KNOW, CAN'T BE IN CONTRAST TO WHAT'S THERE, RIGHT? YEAH, GENERALLY THEY'RE ALMOST ALL THE SAME.
THEY'RE EITHER BEIGE OR WHITEWOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY GO WITH THE GENERAL, WHAT'S THERE? USUALLY THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
I MEAN, MAYBE A LIGHT TAN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO MATCH.
SO, SO THE, YOU MEAN THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN'T ONE BE BLUE AND ONE BE RED.
THEY, THEY'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO BE TAN OR WHITE OR WHATEVER.
YOU SAID A POWER, WHAT WAS IT CALLED? IT'S CALLED, DID YOU SAY POWER? A POWER PLANT, WHICH GOES ALONG WITH THE, UH, BATTERY RACK.
IS THERE A GENERATOR? I DO NOT SEE A GENERATOR HERE, BUT LET ME TAKE A LOOK.
NORMALLY THERE IS, SO I'M YOU, YOUR SOUND.
I DON'T SEE THAT A GENERATOR IS REFERENCED, BUT I'M GONNA DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE I'M SURPRISED THERE ISN'T.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE TOO, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SITE.
IT KIND OF COVERS THE WHOLE COLLEGE OVER THERE.
BUT THAT BATTERY, 'CAUSE THE BATTERIES WILL ONLY BACK UP FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, OBVIOUSLY.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT RIGHT.
I WOULD SAY HOPEFULLY THEY'RE, UH, LOOKING INTO, UH, ADDING, UH, A GENERATOR IN THE FUTURE TO INCLUDE THAT.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BE SURE TO INCLUDE IT FROM THE NOISE ANALYSIS.
SO I'M GOING TO MARGIN NOISE ANALYSIS INCOMPLETE BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO BACK AND CHANGE IT.
NO, NO, I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT ADDING A GENERATOR.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THE GENERATOR, YOU, NOTHING YOU READ MENTIONS A GENERATOR.
WE SAID THEY, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T.
I WAS SAYING IT'S GOOD TO HAVE FOR THE FUTURE, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE, THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT IF THEY ADD ONE, THEY HAVE TO COME IN.
THAT YOU, YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
OF, I'M JUST A LITTLE SURPRISED YOU DON'T HAVE ONE EVEN FOR THE TEMPORARY POLL.
LET'S LOOK AT S ON YOUR DRAWINGS, YOU MUST IDENTIFY THE HEIGHT, NOT JUST OF YOUR ANTENNAS, BUT THE OTHER ANTENNAS THAT WILL BE UP THERE.
LISA, YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU NEEDED IT TO BE ABLE TO PLACE YOURS, CORRECT? BOOK.
UH, WHEN YOU SAY OTHERS, YOU MEAN LIKE YOU'RE TALKING LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHOEVER? CORRECT.
UH, WELL I'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S INCLUDED.
IF, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFO NOW, I'LL GET IT.
THIS IS THE CENTER LINE OF EACH PROPOSED ANTENNA? YES.
THIS IS JUST A HELPFUL LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION WHEN THEY DO THE, UM, WEAR REPORT, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE HEIGHT CORRECTLY MEASURED, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT THAT HAVE COME BACK THAT HAVE BEEN GENERIC AND THE CENTER LINE THAT CITED HAS BEEN DIFFERENT AND
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WE'VE HAD TO SEND IT BACK BECAUSE IT THEN IS NOT A ABOVE MEASUREMENT.UNDER THE WATER TOWER, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE.
WHAT YOU MEAN ON, WHAT DO YOU MEAN UNDER, I'M LOOKING AT A 2 0 2.
WHERE ARE, WHERE WAS THE, UM, CABINETS BE? WELL, THERE'S NOTHING UNDER THE WATER POWER ITSELF AS FAR AS I SEE.
WHERE ARE YOUR CABINETS THERE TO THE SIDE SOMEWHERE? UH, LET ME SEE.
THAT'S PART OF THE INSTALLATION.
UM, WE NEED IT ON THIS DRAWING BECAUSE IT SHOWS US WHAT THE IMPACT IS, WHETHER ANYTHING CHANGES.
I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED TO FIX THE DRAWINGS ANYWAY BECAUSE THE ADDRESS IS INCORRECT.
IS THERE ANY LIGHTING PROPOSED? I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY LIGHTING PROPOSED.
IF THERE IS LIGHTING PROPOSED, YOU MUST STATE IT ON THE DRAWING.
IF THERE IS NO LIGHTING PROPOSED, YOU MUST STATE IT ON THE DRAWINGS OR IN, IN SOME OR ON THE NARRATIVE PROVIDED.
WHERE IS THIS, WHERE IS THE SIGNAGE GOING TO BE? UH, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
CONCERNING IT'S A WATER TANK, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD HAVE, UH, THE SIGNAGE OBVIOUSLY SHOULD BE LOCATED NEAR OUR EQUIPMENT.
ALSO ON THE GATE WOULD BE ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE WE WOULD PUT THAT.
AND I, I KNOW I'M AWARE THAT, UH, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAS A SIGN THAT THEY WANT ALSO TO MAKE SURE IT'S THERE.
UM, SO, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE PLACARDS ARE THERE.
UH, AND IF YOU WANT, WE COULD HAVE THEM REFERENCE IN THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING.
UH, WELL THAT'S THE FRONT GATE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT GATE TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE WATER DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, AND THE WATER TANK.
WE NEED TO, THE WHOLE GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE TO PIECE TOGETHER CERTAIN DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS THAT.
SO THE SITE PLAN ON A L ONE DOES SHOW WHERE THE, UH, THERE'S A MISSING SECTION TO BE REPLACED ON THE FENCE SHOWED THAT LOCATION, IT DOES SHOW WHERE THE EQUIPMENT IS UNDERNEATH THE WATER TANK.
SO THAT'S ON SITE PLAN A L ONE RIGHT BEFORE IT I LOOKING ABOUT ASK YOU, IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT IS UNDERNEATH THE WATER, UNDER THE WATER TOWER.
SO IT IS, HOW ABOUT THAT? SO WHAT YOUR DRAWINGS, WHAT YOU REPRESENTED WAS NOT ACCURATE WHEN YOU SAID IT'S NOT UNDER THE WATER TOWER A FEW MINUTES AGO.
I WAS REFERENCING THE PAGE I WAS LOOKING AT.
SO WE NEED A PAGE THAT ACTUALLY REFLECTS WHAT IS HERE, WHICH IS THE EQUIPMENT UNDER THE WATER TOWER.
WE NEED A FENCE THAT SHOWS US WHERE THIS IS NOT LIKE A SHOT IN THE DARK.
WE NEED TO SPECIFY ON THE DRAWINGS WHERE YOU THINK THE SIGNS SHOULD GO TO SEE IF THAT WORKS.
WE NEED A, A PLAN THAT SHOWS US WHERE THE GATE ENTRANCE IS.
WE NEED SOMETHING THAT SAYS THERE WILL OR WILL NOT BE ANY LIGHTING.
WE NEED, AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT SAYS ON THIS IT SAYS MATERIALS COLOR.
IF YOU ACTUALLY READ S IT ASKS FOR VERY SPECIFIC THINGS AND IT LIKES SIGNAGE.
SO WE NEED THE HEIGHT OF THE EQUIPMENT CABINETS, WE NEED THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE REQUIRED.
EVERYTHING THAT APPEARS IS REQUIRED TO HAVE, HAVE THE HEIGHT INCLUDED AND AND WIDTH.
SO I MEAN, UH, DRAWN TO, DRAWN TO, UH, SCALE.
ON YOUR ELEVATION DRAWING, YOU SHOULD BE SHOWING THE EQUIPMENT UNDERNEATH THE TANK, RIGHT? IN ADDITION TO THE SITE PLAN.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERY DETAILED.
JUST ON SITE PLAN ALONE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EXTREMELY DETAILED AND IT SAYS A PLAN ILLUSTRATING AND IT GIVES YOU A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT DRAWING, YOU MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE ON.
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OH, I'M SORRY.WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? IT SAYS ON S IT SAYS THE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE ANTENNAS, UM, AND ALL RE RELATED FIXTURES, STRUCTURES AND PS AND APPARATUSES INCLUDING HEIGHT ABOVE UNDERSERVED GRADE, ELEVATION ABOVE GRADE, AND SEA LEVEL MATERIALS, COLOR, SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING.
THE NAME OF THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF EACH.
AND I DON'T SEE ON THIS DRAWING THE OWNER AND OPERATOR.
SO I SEE THE, AT THE TOP IT SAYS PROPOSED ANTENNAS, BUT IT DOES NOT SAY AT T PROPOSED ANTENNAS, IT DOES NOT IDENTIFY THE WATER TOWERS OWNED BY IT DOES NOT IDENTIFY OTHER ANTENNAS AND WHOSE THEY ARE.
AND I WILL WRITE THAT OUT IN A MINUTE.
UM, T ALL WIRELESS FACILITIES SHALL POST A STAINLESS STEEL OR ALUMINUM PLATE SIGN IN A READILY VISIBLE LOCATION.
DO YOU HAVE OUR INTENT, OUR PARTICULAR SIGN? I SAW OTHER SIGNS SOMEWHERE.
YOU KNOW, I I I DON'T KNOW IF I PERSONALLY HAVE IT 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT LISTED HERE.
I WAS HOPING ACTUALLY YOU COULD PROVIDE ME WITH THAT SO I CAN MAKE SURE OUR SITE DOES HAVE IT.
YOU CAN LOOK AT DRAWINGS OF ANY OF THESE WHEN YOU COME AND TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT THE REPORT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IT SHOULD INCLUDE.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT THEY INCLUDE.
BECAUSE YOU PROVIDED EVERYBODY ELSE'S, BUT YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE OURS.
IN ADDITION, IT SAYS, UH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON? SURE.
WHEN YOU SAY PROVIDE OURS, UH, DO YOU HAVE THE TOWN HAS A SPECIFIC SIGN REQUIREMENT.
OH, SO IT'S A SIGN REQUIREMENT.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU ISSUED THE SIGN.
AND IT IS ACTUALLY ENCLOSED IN THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE THAT WAS COPIED.
OH, YOU SAY THE PERMIT ARE YOU, YOU SAY IMPOSED IN THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS PLANS ARE THE SIGNAGE DETAILS.
THE SIGNS WILL FOLLOW THE TOWN OF GREENBURG'S SIGNAGE, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
THE SIGN WILL BE IN ALUMINUM APPROXIMATELY EIGHT INCHES BY 12 INCHES AND SIZE.
THE PERMIT NUMBER, DATE OF ISSUANCE AND NAME AND PHONE NUMBER OF PARTY TO CONTACT.
AND IT ALSO SAYS SPECIFICALLY THAT IT CAN BE NO HIGHER THAN FIVE FEET.
AND IT HAS TO SAY THAT ON THE PLAN, THAT'S NO LIE HIGHER THAN FIVE FEET.
OR PUT THAT MY DATE OTHER THAN MISSING A PERIOD AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE, A AND TT WILL COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT.
UH, YOU IS COMPLETE FRANCIS INSURANCE.
UH, SO APPARENTLY INSURANCE IS EXHIBIT V.
UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE IS THE COVER PAGE SAYING EXHIBIT D.
YOU, UH, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXHIBIT DI HAVE AN EXHIBIT.
I HAVE A PAGE THAT SAYS EXHIBIT B, D AS IN DAVID, BUT I WOULD EXPECT SOMETHING TO FOLLOW THAT PAGE.
SO, UH, SO YOU'RE MISSING THE INSURANCE? YEAH.
UH, I OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A LITTLE MESSY, UH, APPLICATION.
I'M, I DEFINITELY, UH, AGREE WITH THAT AND I KNOW MOST LIKELY I SHOULD SAY THE, UH, INSURANCE IS THERE.
IF IT WASN'T PUT IN PROPERLY, I, I APOLOGIZE, BUT EITHER WAY I'M MOSTLY, I I WOULD STEP BACK FROM THAT.
I I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD GO, I I I WENT THROUGH EVERY PAGE IF I COULDN'T BOTHER.
YEAH, I, I'M, I'M NOT SURPRISED.
SO I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I INCLUDE THE INSURANCE.
IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE UPDATED ON ANYWAY.
IT WAS, I BELIEVE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN RUNNING OUT.
DAN, DO YOU SEE IT? WHAT WAS THAT? NO, I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE CATHERINE DIDN'T HAVE ONE THING.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE OTHER LIEUTENANT BOARD MEMBER CAN FIND THE INSURANCE.
UH, UH, YOU KNOW, NO, I COULD SAY, I COULD SAY THE, THE ONE THING IS THAT IN THE, UH, THERE'S A A ONE BOOK THAT I THINK WAS LABELED MORE ORIGINAL AND IT WAS IN THAT PARTICULAR BOOK.
UM, THEY ALL, LET'S INCLUDE EVERYTHING
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THAT I, I'M NOT GONNA, I I I'M NOT GONNA SAY I, I AGREE WITH YOU.I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE INSURANCE ITSELF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOCUMENTS.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY THREE COPIES OF SOMETHING, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR EIGHT OR NINE.
NO, WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE SAYING WE NEED A COMPLETE APPLICATION.
YOU MUST SUBMIT NINE, NINE EACH, NINE INSURANCE, EACH OF THE NINE REQUIRES ALL THE ELEMENTS.
SO IF IT REQUIRES, SO IF IT REQUIRES THREE, UH, SETS OF, UH, ZONING.
SO, UH, I'M JUST SAYING IF IT REFERENCES THREE COPIES OF SOMETHING, DO I HAVE TO PUT THREE COPIES IN EACH BINDER? THAT'S WHERE, DO YOU SEE THREE COPIES? NO, YOU, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE READING.
IT SAYS NINE COPIES MUST BE SUBMITTED AND THEY, THE NINE COPIES WILL BE DISTRIBUTED THEN BETWEEN THE NINE PEOPLE TO RECEIVE IT.
SO IN EACH BINDER YOU ONLY, YOU INCLUDE ONE OF EACH ITEM.
SO, UM, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE, AND YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LIST THE TOWN OF GREENBERG AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED IN THE BOX THAT, UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE INSURANCE DOCUMENT YOU HAVE TO STATE THE TOWN OF GREENBERG IS THE PERSON, IS THE ENTITY THAT'S ADDITIONALLY INSURED AND INCLUDE THE ADDRESS, NOT, UH, NOT JUST YOUR SITE SITE NAME.
I GUESS YOUR SITE NAME FOR THIS ONE IS CHELSEA ANDERSON.
AND, AND MAKE SURE YOU GET THE ADDRESS OF THE, THE TOWN CORRECT.
WHAT I HAVE HERE IS ONE IS A IS INCOMPLETE.
WE NEED QUALIFICATIONS FOR EACH PERSON.
THE, UM, THE ATTESTATIONS SHOULD REFLECT THE WORK.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THEY ACTUALLY DID TWO.
THE APPLICANT IS IN, UH, TWO IS B IS INCOMPLETE, THE APPLICANT IS AT AND T THREE IS INCOMPLETE.
ADDRESS IS INCORRECT, IT IS NOT GREENBERG.
UM, AND WHEN YOU CORRECT IT, I WROTE DOWN, SO 2 0 9 IS THE NEW, UH, CORRECT NUMBER, RIGHT? 2 0 9 AKA 22 0 3 AND BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
AND IT'S WHY THANK YOU D IS COMPLETE E IS COMPLETE, F IS INCOMPLETE.
WE NEED A COMPLETED AFFIDAVIT WITH THE TOWN AND A LETTER SPECIFIC TO THE SITE FROM AT AND T WITH CURRENT DATE AUTHORIZING AEROSMITH G.
IS INCOMPLETE A DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK.
ALL WORK NECESSARY TO COMPLETE, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALL AND CONSTRUCT AND INSTALL THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING ANY NECESSARY EXCAVATION.
ONE, A DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK NECESSARY INCLUDING REMOVAL, UM, OF CABLES, ET CETERA.
THAT'S QUESTION MARK THERE, BUT WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, I TRIED TO ADD WHATEVER YOU SAID BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN THERE THAT IS NOT ITEMIZED HERE.
I, AND JUST TO CLARIFY THE, IT WASN'T CABINETS THAT THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO ITEMS BEING REMOVED.
THE POWER PLANT AND THE BATTERY RACK, AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING IN A POWER PLANT PLANT AND A BATTERY RACK.
J WAS IN IS INCOMPLETE CER CERTIFICATION THAT THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE IS CAPABLE OF SAFELY HANDLING THE ADDITIONAL ANTENNA EQUIPMENT TO BE ADDED.
UM, AND TWO IN THE LANGUAGE IS THAT IT SAYS, UM, YOU HAD
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THIS PAGE, BUT IT'S, IT SAYS IS WHERE THE MODIFIED, WHERE THE DESCRIPTION IS.IT SAYS, UM, JUST IT'S A, IT IS USED AS AN ADJECTIVE CENSUS.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TALKING? THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE ANALYSIS THAT USES THE IN FRONT.
YOU WANT A FULL STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS OF THE WATER TANK THAT I HAVE TO REQUEST FROM THE WATER DISTRICT.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER NEXT ONE.
I, I SAY CORRECT THE LANGUAGE.
AND THE LANGUAGE HAS YOU, THE WAY IT'S A VERY MAYBE INDUSTRY USE OF THE LANGUAGE BUT NOT A LANGUAGE.
THE THE PASSING, UH, PASSING WATER.
SO PASSING IS NOT, YEAH, WE WANTED A LITTLE MORE, UH, MORE WORDS.
TWO, MAKE SURE IT INCLUDES IN AN, UM, OH, MAKE SURE IT IS INCLUDED IN EACH SUBMISSION.
CORRECT THE SPELLING OF GREENBERG.
FOUR PROVIDE A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS FOR THE WATER TOWER.
THE MAKE MODEL AND MANUFACTURER OF THE ANTENNAS IDENTIFY THE MAKE, MODEL AND MANUFACTURER OF THE ANTENNAS.
L IDENTIFY IS INCOMPLETE ALSO IDENTIFY FREQUENCY MODULATION AND CLASS M IS COMPLETE AND IS INCOMPLETE.
MUST IT MUST ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE INCOMPLETE.
IT MUST INCLUDE A CHART OF ALL INTENDED CUMULATIVE EFFECT.
UM, WHAT IS THE GROUND LEVEL DISTANCE CITED ON PAGE SIX, BUT WHAT THAT ALSO MEANS GOING OUT FROM 10 ZERO TO 500.
I MEAN IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE 500 SOME WHERE THEIR FALL OFF HAS BEEN MUCH SOONER.
UH, MAYBE AT TWO 50 THEY GO OUT TO 400 FEET, BUT WE HAVE ALMOST ALWAYS HAD 500 FEET INCLUDED.
UM, OKAY, THE NEXT IS WHAT IS THE GROUND LEVEL OF THE DISTANCE CITED ON PAGE SIX IN THREE INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE UNDERLINED HERE, WHICH IS THE, THAT THE RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS DO NOT EXCEED THE APPLICABLE FCC REGULATIONS.
IF YOU ADD A GENERATOR, YOU MUST COME BACK.
Q THIS, UM, THERE'S NO SCHEDULE PROVIDED.
HOW, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? AND THE DAYS MUST BE BACK TO BACK.
WHAT COLOR WILL THE ANTENNAS BE? CABINET SWAP CABINETS MUST MATCH THAT ONE.
SORRY, I SKIPPED THAT TO, THAT'S R, WHICH IS R AS INCOMPLETE.
WHAT COLORS WILL THE ANTENNAS BE AND THE CABINET SWAP CABINETS MUST MATCH, UM, ON S ALL ELEMENTS OF THIS QUESTION MUST BE INCLUDED.
ADD, INCLUDING ADD, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ADDING THE CABINETS.
UM, AND I'M NOT ITEMIZING THEM ALL BECAUSE WE WENT OVER THEM AND IT'S COLOR AND SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING AND MATERIALS AND IT'S ALL OF THAT.
UM, T WAS INCOMPLETE BECAUSE IT HAD, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE OUR SIGN, TOWN SIGN AND THAT, OH, I ADDED ON S INCLUDE PLACEMENT OF SIGNS.
UM, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY YES.
LIGHTING OR NO LIGHTING AND COLOR OF WHAT COLOR PROVI ON, ON T PROVIDE
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TOWN SIGN AND LOCATION AS WELL AS THAT IT WILL BE NO HIGHER ACTING THAN FIVE FEET U WAS COMPLETE AND THERE WAS NO INSURANCE.AND WE NEED INSURANCE INCLUDED.
SO I AM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEEMED THIS APPLICATION BE COMPLETE.
OKAY, MS.
UH, WILL I GET A COPY OF YOUR, UH, DETERMINATION? YEP.
IF YOU WERE HERE, YOU WOULD GET IT TONIGHT, BUT YOU WILL GET IT TOMORROW FROM THE YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
NORMALLY IF YOU WOULD HERE, YOU'D BE IT INITIALING NEXT TO WHAT YEAH, YOU'D INITIAL EVERYTHING.
BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL SCAN IT IN AND SEND IT TO YOU.
I WOULD THINK THIS EXPLAINS THEN CAN YOU HAND ME WHAT, WHAT 5 65 RIGHT THERE? THE ORANGE FOLDER AND THE DRAWINGS RIGHT THERE UNDER IT.
THIS IS WHAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT WE RECEIVED FOR 5 65.
YOU ASKED FOR 5 65 TAX YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEP.
NO, THAT WASN'T, THERE WERE NO, THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL AND, AND MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD IT, BUT THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL ONE PAGE BINDER, REAL BINDER THAT WHOLE HAD THREE COPIES OF WHAT? UH, THE ZONING, ZONING COMPLIANCE FORM.
IT HAD THE APPLICATIONS IN THERE.
IT HAD EVERYTHING IN THAT ONE BINDER.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU WANT NINE BINDERS AND YOU WANT EVERYTHING.
UH, WHAT I WANT, I WASN'T A HUNDRED DIVID PERCENT SURE YOU DO THE DIVIDING.
YOU DON'T RELY ON SOMEBODY ELSE TO DIVIDE YOUR MATERIALS UP.
THIS IS QUITE A LENGTHY PROCESS.
NO, THAT'S NOT, NO, THAT'S EXACTLY NOT WHAT I DID.
I HAD PUT, UH, THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL BINDER THAT HAD EVERYTHING YOU REQUESTED AND REQUIRED IN IT.
THEN YOU ASKED FOR NINE OR EIGHT OF EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING NO.
YEAH, THERE WAS A WHOLE REAL LOOSE LEAF BINDER THAT YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T GET.
THESE WERE JUST THE ADDITIONAL, UH, COPIES OF THE DRAWINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED AS PART OF THE, UH, REQUEST.
IT DOESN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE FRONT PAGE OF WHAT IS REQUIRED ON THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE ONE OF THOSE INSIDE YOUR YEP.
I THINK THERE'S CONFUSION HERE.
THERE WE GOT, WHEN YOU SUBMIT, NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING AGAIN.
AND YOU'RE HAVE TO PUT IT IN THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS NEVER NOT GIVEN US ALL THE THINGS SUBMITTED FOR THE ANTENNA BOARD.
SO, SO I'M JUST SAYING THE FIRST, DID YOU GIVE US THIS IN ADDITION TO A BINDER? YES.
THE BINDER WAS ALL THE ORIGINAL ITEMS AND THEN THESE WERE ALL JUST FOR THE COPIES.
GIVEN THE WAY THIS ARRIVED AND THAT THEY WERE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANYTHING THEY THOUGHT MIGHT BE AN APPLICATION, THEY DIDN'T GET WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO YOU NEED TO SUBMIT BOTH OF THESE.
AND IF WE WANT US TO REVIEW 5 65, PUT IT IN A BINDER, PUT IT WITH, ACTUALLY USE THE CARD AND INCLUDE ALL THE INFORMATION.
THERE'S NOTHING EVER THAT SAYS THREE.
THERE, I I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE YOU GOT THE NUMBER THREE FROM BECAUSE
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IT CLEARLY STATES IN THE CODE NINE, I CUT AND PASTED THE CODE INTO AN EMAIL TO YOU TODAY.IT CLEARLY SAYS NINE AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT NINE COMPLETE APPLICATION SUBMISSIONS.
NOT ASKING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO DO YOUR WORK OF DIVIDING IT UP.
IF YOU WANT IT REVIEWED, YOU WILL, AND YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE CODE, WHICH SAYS NINE.
AND AFTER GOING THROUGH THE PRIOR, PRIOR, UH, SUBMISSION, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING, I'M REFERENCING, FOR INSTANCE, AND THIS IS WHAT THREW ME OFF A LITTLE BIT.
IT SAYS ONE ORIGINAL, TWO COPIES OF THE ZONING COMPLIANCE FORM.
SO DO YOU WANT ONE ORIGINAL AND TWO COPIES IN EACH AND EVERY FOLDER? NO, THAT'S FOR THE BILLING DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE WRONG PART.
LOOK AT WHAT I SENT YOU TODAY.
YOU SUBMITTED A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION IF YOU, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT THIS REALLY WAS.
I KNOW, BUT THIS GOES, THIS, IF YOU READ THE EMAIL I SENT YOU TODAY AND LOOK AT THE CODE CITATION I INCLUDED IN IT, YOU WILL SEE WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO TO GET THIS INFORMATION AND WHAT'S REQUIRES YES, I, I'VE READ THAT CODE.
DID YOU DO STEEP SLOPES AS WELL? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? DID YOU SUBMIT A, SOME, UH, STEEP SLOPES? UM, I'M NOT, I I WOULD HAVE, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS NEEDED.
THAT THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE ANTENNA BOARD.
WE DON'T GET THE BUILDING PERMIT.
YEAH, WE DON'T GET THE BUILDING.
SO YOU, YOU DON'T GET THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION? NO, NO.
WE GET THE ANTENNA PART OF IT.
UH OH, AT THAT STATION ATTESTATION.
WELL THAT MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE TO ME NOW.
IF YOU GO TO WHAT I SENT YOU TODAY AND LOOK AT THAT CITATION, YOU WILL SEE WHAT YOU NEED TO SEND US.
AND HOW MANY COPIES? VERY GOOD.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY PASSING.
BUT IT COULD BE PAIRING OR IT COULD BE JUST MAKE THE S'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I THINK THAT'S THE PASSING LANGUAGE, ISN'T IT? THEY DID A PASSING REPORT,
UH, IN REGARDS TO THE PACKAGE THAT I HAD SENT, THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
UM, SINCE I HAVE A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL DRAWINGS IN THE, UH, THAT I SENT TO YOU, UM, I COULD COME AND PICK THOSE UP AND UM, TAKE THEM BACK.
YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW MANY OF THE TOWN HAS, YOU COULD ADD THE BUILDING, ASK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, VERSIONS OF THOSE THAT WENT TO YOU? ARE THOSE NOT AVAILABLE? WE KEEP THEM.
THE I KNOW I CAN SPEAK ONLY FOR MYSELF.
YEAH, WE WE'RE, WE AND I THINK, YEAH, I, I, I, I, I THINK WE'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP THEM BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY ASKED FOR OUR COPY, UM, WE WOULD'VE TO PRODUCE IT THOUGH.
BUT THE OTHER IS YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET BACK FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU WERE EVER TO CHALLENGE THAT IT WAS INCOMPLETE, THEN WHY DID WE SEND IT BACK? AND I DIDN'T HAVE MY DOCUMENT TO PROVE THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE SO GOOD.
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SO WHEN, UM, THIS IS, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.WHEN SOMETHING, WHEN SOMETHING IS NOT ACCEPTED, IN OTHER WORDS NOT ACCEPTED TO REVIEW, ARE YOU STILL REVIEWING IT TO NOT ACCEPT IT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T MOVE ANY FURTHER ON THIS.
SO YOU'RE REJECTING THE APPLICATION 'CAUSE IT'S INCOMPLETE.
UM, WHEN YOU DO THAT, DO YOU HAVE A FORM THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY, WELL, IT'S INCOMPLETE BECAUSE IT'S MISSING THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
AS OPPOSED TO SAYING THAT'S WHAT THIS, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET A COPY OF TOMORROW.
RIGHT? SO, BUT IS THIS CONSIDERED ACCEPTED AS FAR AS AN APPLICATION GOES? AND IS THIS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE OTHER ONE? AND AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, WE WILL NEVER DO THIS AGAIN.
WE ACCEPTED THIS AS AN APPLICATION BECAUSE YOU HAD MATERIALS TOGETHER.
WE DON'T PAY PLAY 52 CARD PICKUP.
AND SO THIS IS NICELY OR NOT SO NICELY SAYING TO YOU THAT IF THIS WERE TO COME AGAIN LIKE THIS, IT WOULD GO BACK TO AS THOUGH IT WAS NOT SUBMITTED.
WE, WE WOULD NOT DEEM IT TO BE AN APPLICATION.
AND IF YOU SEND THE SUBSEQUENT ONE IN THE SAME CONDITION MM-HMM
WE'RE GOING TO RETURN IT TO YOU AND STOP THE CLOCK BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE LOOKED AT IT, BUT IT, IT CANNOT BE REVIEWED.
THIS WAS NOT VERY, HONESTLY NOT REVIEWABLE.
YOU HAD THREE VERY PATIENT PEOPLE HERE.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE ACCEPTED THIS AND SCHEDULED THIS TO REVIEW IT.
THE OTHER ONE WE DIDN'T SCHEDULE BECAUSE THERE'S NO APPLICATION AT ALL AND THERE'S NO MATERIAL GOING PAST.
YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH.
THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS FORM AND SOME OF THE THINGS ARE SAID COMPLETE DOES NOT MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT THEM AGAIN.
I, I WAS MORE, I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE LIKE WHEN SOMETHING ISN'T ACCEPTED, SO WE COULD HAVE A MEETING ON IT.
IS THERE A WAY TO SAY, WELL, IT WASN'T ACCEPTED BECAUSE IT WAS MISSING ITEMS A, UH, A APPLICATION OR DID DRAWINGS.
THAT'S, WE'LL NOT DO THAT 5 65.
WE DIDN'T DO IT FOR 5 65 BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING TO REVIEW.
YOU NEED THAT FIRST COMPONENT CLEARLY STATED.
A THROUGH WHAT? A, THROUGH WHATEVER THE LAST LETTER IS.
NOW THE CLOCK STOPS WHEN YOU DECIDE TO CORRECT THIS APPLICATION AND SUBMIT ALL OF IT WITH THE CORRECTED INFORMATION IN IT.
WE WILL AGAIN SCHEDULE A MEETING.
THE OTHER ONE WE ARE NOT REVIEWING BECAUSE THERE IS, IT IS NOT DEEMED AN APPLICATION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE INTRODUCTORY, WHICH I DETAILED IN MY EMAIL TO YOU WHAT WAS REQUIRED TO CONSTITUTE A, UM, AN APPLICATION.
JUST BECAUSE YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION DOES NOT MAKE THE APPLICATION COMPLETE.
JUST BECAUSE YOU SUBMIT DOCUMENTS DOESN'T MAKE IT AN APPLICATION.
WELL, YOU CAN SUBMIT, IT CAN OPEN, OPEN.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT, A COMPLETE APPLICATION MAKES IT AN INCOMPLETE.
BUT IT HAS TO AT LEAST HAVE THE FRAMEWORK.
IT HAS TO HAVE THE A THROUGH THE FRAMEWORK AS FRANCIS IS, IS SAYING.
IN ORDER TO BE DEEMED REVIEWABLE.
DO YOU THINK YOU, YOU SUBMITTED THOSE IN BINDER AND YOU SAID YOU SUBMITTED THREE TO BEGIN WITH? YEAH.
SO IN, IN THE MAIN BINDER WAS EV ALL THE BASICS OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
UM, WERE THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT? PROBABLY, PROBABLY NOT BASED ON THE MEETING WE JUST HAD, BUT THE OTHER, UH, ATTACHMENTS THAT I PUT IN, NOT THE FOLDERS WERE, WERE THE, UH, EIGHT OR NINE SETS OF DRAWINGS, THE RF REPORT.
AND, AND WHEN I, THE MAIN OBJECTS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, SOME OF THEM WERE PERTAINING JUST TO THE BUILDING DEPART.
EVIDENTLY WERE IN THAT MAIN ORIGINAL FOLDER.
SO NOW THE, YOU KNOW, WITH ORIGINAL SIGNATURES AND, AND ALL THAT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS JUST, UH, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, IT SAID, IT SAID BINDER.
SO I, I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WAS ALSO A, A POTENTIAL WAY TO SUBMIT THAT'S IT SAID BINDER.
UH, IT, I'M, I I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT IS BINDER IN THE CODE IT RIGHT ON THE APPLICATION FOR, I'M GONNA BRING IT UP RIGHT HERE.
SO IT'S ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, DEPARTMENT OF BUILDINGS BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS, SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS.
IT HAS ONE ORIGINAL SEVEN COPIES
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OF APPLICATION, ONE ORIGINAL SEVEN COPIES OF AFFIDAVIT, UM, CONTRACTOR INSURANCE.IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MANY COPIES THERE.
THIS IS JUST STRICTLY A BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS NOT A, AGAIN, GO TO THE CITATION I PROVIDED YOU WITH IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY.
IT SAYS REQUIRED PLANS THOUGH RIGHT BELOW THAT EIGHT COMPLETE REPORTS SAYS REQUIRED IN ANTENNA, THEN IT SAYS EIGHT COMPLETE SETS OF DRAWINGS.
BUT YOU JUST READ AS SOMETHING THAT SAID SEVEN, THE SEVEN, NO ONE ORIGINAL TWO COPIES OF THE ZONING COMPLIANCE FORM WAS ONE ORIGINAL TWO COPIES.
NO, NO, THAT'S NOT THE ANTENNA BOARD.
THAT'S THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO WHAT YOU GET USING IS THE BUILDING BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION.
AND THE TOWN OF GREENBERG APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMIT.
COULD YOU LET FRANCIS FINISH PLEASE? BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING CROSS AND YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT UNDERSTANDING.
I THOUGHT I EXPLAINED THIS BEFORE.
WHEN YOU FILE THESE PLANS, YOU HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ANTENNA LAW, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO FILE IN CONFORMANCE WITH A REGULAR BILLING PERMIT.
EVERYBODY WHO FILES WITH BUILDING PERMIT HAS TO SUBMIT THREE COPIES FOR THE ANTENNA APPLICATIONS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE REVIEW DONE ON THOSE, WE NEED THOSE ADDITIONAL COPIES SPECIFIED IN THE CODE.
SO YOU KEEP FALLING BACK ON THREE COPIES.
BUT THOSE ARE ONLY DEALING WITH YOUR ZONING COMPLIANCE FORM.
UM, THE APPLICATION ITSELF, AND YOU MAY HAVE, UH, IT MAY HAVE A STEEP SLOPES, UM, OR WETLANDS CLEARANCE FORM.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE SEPARATE THEN WHAT YOU NEED FOR COMPLYING WITH THE ANTENNA LAW.
WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS.
WHAT AM I DOING? AM I TAKING IT UP UPSET SO I MAKE WHAT? TAKE IT UP.
SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, ADJOURN.
DID YOU DEEM A COMPLETE, WE DEEMED IT.
UH, WE DID, WE VOTED TO COMPLETE INCOMPLETE.