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PROGRESS.[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ]
WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING.TODAY'S APRIL 7TH, UM, AND IT'S 5 44.
AND THE FINAL FIRST ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION.
DO YOU NEED TO START AGAIN SINCE YOUR OKAY.
TODAY'S APRIL 7TH AT FIVE 30, UH, PM UH, FIVE, WELL, 5:40 PM TODAY, UH, IS OUR WORK SESSION.
AND, UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS FINAL REVIEW OF ICE AND CBP ABUSE RESOLUTIONS.
WE'RE HOLDING THAT OVER 'CAUSE MY, HE'S NOT READY.
ALL RIGHT, LESLIE, COME ON UP.
THIS IS THE MOST RECENT TOP PAGE, HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT YOU HAVE.
AND THIS IS REGARDING THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM INITIATIVE.
UH, YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND JUST WHAT? PASS HIM OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE GOT ONE.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS GONNA BE SOMEONE ELSE HERE.
LESLIE DAVIS, TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, HERE TO DISCUSS THE GREENBURG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM INITIATIVE COMMUNITY BANNER PROJECT.
THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEONE ELSE HERE.
YES, GARRETT SAID HE WAS GONNA COME DOWN.
YEAH, NO, I'M, I GUESS YOU HAD THE CONVERSATION.
I, I DON'T, I DID BECAUSE YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION.
WHY GARRETT? 'CAUSE HE WAS CONSERVATION YEAH.
AND HE, HE TALKED TO LIZ APPARENTLY HE SAID, 'CAUSE ANYWAY, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA, OKAY.
GARRETT TOLD ME HE'S ON HIS WAY DOWN.
WELL, IN THE MEANTIME, YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT THE, YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT YOU WERE GIVEN HISTORY.
SO ONCE YOU DO THAT UNTIL SHE COME, UNTIL HE COMES DOWN.
THE HISTORY OF THIS, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GIVING HISTORY BACK.
I DIDN'T KNOW WANT YOU BECAUSE, BECAUSE GAR KNOWS THAT.
SO, JUST TO KEEP IT VERY SIMPLE, UM, SINCE AUGUST OF 2025, THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM INITIATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS LED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A TOWN WIDE HISTORICAL BANNER AND PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION ACROSS THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
WITH THE SUPPORT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND KEY PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE ARTS AND HUMAN HUMANITIES COMMITTEE, THE VILLAGE OF CROTON ON THE HUDSON, THE OFFICE OF ASSEMBLY MEMBER, MARY JANESKY, SUPERVISOR PAUL FINDER, AND THE GREENBERG PUBLIC LIBRARY, AS WELL AS THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, WHEN WE DID OUR PRESENTATIONS HERE, THIS INITIATIVE IS NOW POSITIONED FOR COORDINATED IMPLEMENTATION WITH THE TOWN AND ALL RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS.
THIS PROJECT ESTABLISHES A CULTURAL RECOGNITION CORRIDOR THAT TRANSFORMS EVERYDAY PUBLIC SPACES INTO AN ACCESSIBLE, EDUCATIONAL AND VISUALLY ENGAGING EXPERIENCE THAT HONORS INDIVIDUALS CONNECTED TO GREENBERG'S HISTORY.
EACH INSTALLATION INCLUDES A QR CODE COMPONENT, WHICH WILL ALLOW EVERY SITE TO SERVE AS A GATEWAY TO A BROADER DIGITAL MUSEUM EXPERIENCE, AND PROVIDES RESIDENTS, STUDENTS, AND VISITORS WITH DIRECT ACCESS TO EXPANDED HISTORICAL CONTENT AND STORYTELLING.
THIS INITIATIVE IS MORE THAN A SERIES OF INSTALLATIONS.
IT'S A SCALABLE CULTURAL ASSET THAT EMBEDS HISTORY INTO THE PUBLIC REALM AND STRENGTHENS COMMUNITY IDENTITY.
WE'VE HAD THE INSTALLATION AS YOU WELL KNOW, AT TOWN HALL, AT THE GENERAL BURN CENTER AT THE LIBRARY.
AND THOSE WERE THE INSTALLATION OF THE BOARDS, WHICH TELLS, YOU KNOW, HAS THE, THE PICTURES AND TELLS THE HISTORY OF SOME RESIDENTS THAT HAVE LIVED IN GREENBURG THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED NOT JUST, UH, LOCALLY BUT NATIONALLY.
SOME VERY RECOGNIZED AS CAB CALLAWAY, AND THEN SOME OF THEM VERY PERSONAL AND LOCAL HEROES WHO ACTUALLY STILL HAVE FAMILY THAT LIVES HERE.
UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH, UM, SOMEWHAT OF A FOLLOWING IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED, NOT JUST IN WHO WE HAVE UP NOW, BUT ACTUALLY CONTINUING TO CREATE INSTALLATIONS, UM, AS WE GATHER MORE KNOWLEDGE.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY, BUT WE'VE HAD FAMILIES COME FORWARD TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT MEMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY.
SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EXCITING FOR US BECAUSE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, GET TO KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THE TOWN.
THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS THAT WAY.
THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO'S LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT PERSON CAME FROM HERE.
SO IT, IT'S BEEN A VERY WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE AND IT'S VERY UPLIFTING TO BE ABLE FOR US TO MAYBE TELL OUR STORY AND, AND KEEP THE, UM, HISTORY ALIVE OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY HAVE, UM, CONTRIBUTED.
HOW ARE YOU? UH, JUST TO ADD, UH, OF COURSE THERE
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WAS T-D-Y-C-C AND ALSO WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE.WHO HAS BEEN A VERY BIG SUPPORTER AS WELL AS WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
UM, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE INSTALLATION.
SO NOW THIS NEXT STEP, UH, THAT WE WANT TO PUT FORWARD, THIS INITIATIVE HAS TO DO WITH, UH, PUTTING UP BANNERS NOW, JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE A VISUAL, UH, REFERENCE.
WHEN YOU GO THROUGH OTHER TOWNS, YOU MIGHT SEE BANNERS OF VETERANS OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THAT TOWN.
THERE ARE BANNERS THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL HAVE THE PERSON'S FACE AND A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THEM.
AND WE'D LIKE TO, UM, BE ABLE TO HANG THOSE BANNERS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO INCLUDE THE TOWN COUNCIL IN THIS, AND, AND WE CAN GET TO THIS 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT SOME OF IT IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF, UM, THE AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, BUT NUMBER ONE, IT'S TOWN.
THE TOWN COUNCIL IS THE FOUR OF US.
UM, WE WANTED TO INCLUDE NUMBER ONE FOR SOME GUIDANCE ON BETWEEN STATE AND, AND, AND, AND LOCAL ROADS, BUT ALSO THE SUPPORT BECAUSE THESE BANNERS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THEY BE INSTALLED WOULD BE SOMETHING WE ALL, UM, SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN, UH, LOOKING AT 'EM AS WE DRIVE BY.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, TODAY IS THE BANNERS, THE PLACEMENT, UM, MAYBE SOME GUIDANCE.
UH, WE DO KNOW THAT, UM, AS OF TODAY, THE DOCUMENT THAT I, I'VE, I'VE HANDED OUT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND, AND OUR ATTORNEY LISTS THE BANNERS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED AND WHERE WE BELIEVE WE'D LIKE TO PLACE THEM.
THE DECISIONS WERE MADE BASED ON VISIBILITY, AND ALSO WE WANTED THE BANNERS TO BE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, GATHERED IN ONE CORRIDOR.
AND IN SOME CASES IT JUST MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO WHERE THE PERSON WAS FROM.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME ACROSS THAT DECISION.
THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM DOES HAVE A COMMITTEE OF, UM, CITIZENS THAT GIVE, HAVE, GIVE US, HAVE GIVEN US THEIR INPUT ON WHERE THEY BELIEVE IN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CITIZENS THAT ARE ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE LIVED HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S GENERATIONAL, HONESTLY.
UM, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE US THEIR INPUT AND, UM, THE PART, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING OF THE TOWN, THE ROADS AS OF TODAY, I FOUND OUT THAT WE DID LIST A LOT OF THEM ARE STATE ROADS, WHICH IS REALLY OUT OF, UM, THE PURVIEW OF THE TOWN BOARD.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD HATE FOR US TO GO TO DOT AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD BE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HATE THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, NOT, I, I, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S DOT, I JUST STILL FEEL LIKE THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
AND THEN ALSO LET US KNOW WHAT ARE THE TOWN ROADS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY INSTALL THEM.
SO THAT'S MY, ABOUT THE TOWN ROADS IS THE EASY PART.
GETTING THE APPROVAL FROM THE STATE.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY ULTIMATE FOR THIS GOAL FOR THIS MEETING IS, UH, TO IDENTIFY IF ANY OF THESE ROADS ARE UNDER YOUR PURVIEW AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD AT LEAST WITH THAT PORTION OF IT AND GETTING YOUR APPROVAL FOR THAT.
OUT OF THE 11, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 ARE IN THIS CATEGORY STATE.
YOU HAVE THE MTA TRAIN STATION, YOU HAVE IRVINGTON, WHICH IS THE VILLAGE.
SO WE ONLY HAVE THREE OF 'EM THAT, OKAY.
AND I MEANT TO TELL YOU, I SHOULD HAVE, UM, CROSSED OUT, UM, MADAM CJ WALKER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IRVINGTON WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALREADY SORT OF INTO THAT, SO, WE'LL, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT.
SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THIS LIST FOR, FOR YOU GUYS, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO ARE ARE WE DOING IT, YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, THEY HAVE A WHOLE BIG SECTION.
WELL, YEAH, AND WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH IRVINGTON BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD BE IRVINGTON ABSOLUTELY.
BUT SINCE YOU HA WELL, SO YOU'RE HAVING, YOU'RE TAKING UM, HER OUT FOR NOW UNTIL YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH IRVINGTON OR WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION ON IRVINGTON.
BUT IF, I THOUGHT THE CONVERSATIONS MIGHT BE THAT IF IRVINGTON IS INTERESTED, WOULD THEY WANNA BE PART YEAH.
THEY ARE INTERESTED AND IT MAKES SENSE.
AND FOR, FOR THAT MATTER, UH, MAY KENNETH CLARK, WHO LIVED IN HASTINGS.
BARNES IS A NOTABLE, NOTICEABLY ABSENT.
I HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, FORMER COUNCILMAN KEN, KEN JONES, AND I HAD A MEETING LAST
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NIGHT WITH, UM, WITH LESLIE AND JUST ASKED, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, THE BOARD SUPPORTIVE, UM, HOWEVER, AND I ALSO MENTIONED TO YOU AND KEN THAT WE CAN ONLY HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE TOWN STREETS.SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT, UM, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING.
SO YOU, I ALSO ASKED, UM, BOTH LIKE YOU MENTIONED THIS COMMUNITY, SO LIKE FOLKS AS SUCH AS LIKE EDDIE MAY BARNES AND OTHER NOTABLE FOLKS.
HOW IS THERE A SURVEY BEING SENT OUT? YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
IS THERE A SURVEY THAT'S BEING SENT OUT WHERE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE TOTALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE MUSEUM COMMITTEE, THAT IF THEY WANT TO SHARE THEIR HISTORY OF THEIR FAMILIES AND STUFF, OF WHO THEY CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH AND ALL THAT STUFF? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST ASKING.
I ASKED THAT QUESTION LAST NIGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, AND WHY WE, SO WE DID THIS INITIATIVE, RIGHT? AND WE DID THE PEOPLE WE KNOW AND WE DID THE PEOPLE THAT CAME FORWARD.
THIS IS NOT THE BE ALL TO END ALL IN TERMS OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME THROUGH GREENBURG AND THAT HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES MM-HMM
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID DEVELOP WAS SORT OF A CRITERIA OF WHAT IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO SEE.
BECAUSE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AS WE HAVE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO STILL HAVE FAMILY THAT ARE LIVING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GET CERTAIN PERMISSIONS FROM OR JUST EVEN GET PICTURES IN HISTORY.
SO WE HAVE DEVELOPED A CRITERIA OF HOW WE WANT THIS PROCESS TO GO, WHICH IS WHY IN JANUARY WE SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE THIS, NOW LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND DO IT IN A MORE ORGANIZED WAY.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A, UM, SORT OF NOMINATING COMMITTEE FOR EACH YEAR AS WE BRING PEOPLE IN.
THIS IS NOT, AGAIN, THE BE ALL TO END ALL.
OH, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY EXPANDING.
UM, WE'VE GOT, AS YOU SAW AN EMAIL TODAY, SOMEONE SENT IN, OH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY FAMILY MEMBER.
THEY DID THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER.
UM, THERE'S SOMEONE I KNOW WHOSE MOM WAS A SINGER OF, OF A VERY FAMOUS GROUP.
BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A FRIEND OF MINE, BUT WE ARE NOT DOING IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING IT.
KIND TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABSOLUTELY.
INFORMATION THAT THEY WANNA SHARE, SHARE THEY WANNA HIGHLIGHT THEIR FAMILY.
I MEAN, IF I'M GONNA DO A FUN, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO? SO ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL INTIMIDATED BECAUSE THERE ARE NAMES LIKE CAB CALLAWAY AND, AND ALL OF THESE LIKE INTERNATIONALLY FAMOUS PEOPLE THAT WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH LOOKING FOR LOCAL AS WELL AS HISTORICAL PICTURES.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA, IF IT'S YOU JUMPING ROPE IN 1972 ON NORTH ROAD, WE'D LIKE THAT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE START REALLY DOCUMENTING AND KEEPING AN ARCHIVE OF THINGS.
SO I GUESS, I GUESS MAYBE MY QUESTION IS, SO HOW DO, WHAT'S HOW DO THEY REACH YOU? OH, THEY REACH US.
I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST TRYING NOW LET'S WAIT.
I WANT TO KIND OF SPLIT UP THE SURVEY.
WHEN YOU SAY THE SURVEY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SURVEY FOR THE BANNERS OR SURVEY IN GENERAL? OF WHO, WHO WOULD PE PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE BOTH? NO, LIKE, I MEAN, I MEAN, IF I, IF I, IF I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'M NOT IN TUNE TO WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I NOTICED NOW I'M GONNA SEE BANNERS MM-HMM
HOW DO I GET THAT INFORMATION? OH, SO, OR HOW DOES THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SO WE ARE NOT JUST, SO NOT ONLY ONE PERSON IS SAYING, HEY, I JUST WANT THESE PEOPLE UP THERE.
HOW DOES I OH, MY VOICE HEARD AS WELL.
AND THAT WOULD BE COUNTER, UM, PRODUCTIVE.
UH, THERE IS A BAND, THERE'S A QR CODE THAT WILL BE WITH THE BANNERS.
NOW, NOT ONLY IS THE QR CODE GONNA GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT WHO'S UP THERE RIGHT.
AND KIND OF TAKE YOU THROUGH A TOUR.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE INFORMATION OF HOW YOU CAN SUBMIT UHHUH WHO YOU WANT.
AND, AND THAT'S WHEN I SAID WE WANNA DO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED, YOU'LL LIKE ANSWER QUESTIONS MM-HMM
AND SAY, THIS IS WHO WE'RE, THIS IS WHO WE'RE SUBMITTING.
THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU CAN, AND GIVE US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN REACH OUT AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LET YOU KNOW THE PROCESS.
NOT TO LEAVE PEOPLE JUST HANGING OUT THERE WITH EMAILS THAT WERE SENT.
LIKE REALLY HAVE IT GATHER THE INFORMATION MM-HMM
AND SO IF WE SAY, OKAY, THIS YEAR WE HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO WHATEVER, 10 PEOPLE, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN 15, UM, NOMINATIONS OR 15, UH, UH, APPLICATIONS BASICALLY, SO THAT WE CAN SPREAD IT OUT.
IS THERE A COST? IS THERE, THERE'S A COST, BUT IT'S UNDER THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM.
BUT NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TOWN NESS AND HOW THAT WORKS FOR US IN TERMS OF, UM, BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH, UH, DPW AND, AND HANG THEM, OR IS BEFORE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
THAT, THAT AS SOON AS WE, I I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE HANG, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, AS A GENERAL, I'M TRYING TO DO GENERAL, BEFORE WE GET INTO SPECIFICS ABOUT HANGING THESE, IS THERE A COST AND HOW, HOW DOES THAT ALL WORK? IF, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE LIKE PLANNING, LIKE, HEY, I'M THINKING OF DOING PLANNING MY FAMILY REUNION IN TWO YEARS.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO DO SOMETHING.
I'M JUST THINKING YOU MEAN A COST TO A RESIDENT? ARE YOU ASKING THIS QUESTION? OF COURSE.
OH, I DON'T, NO, THE BANNER IS UNDER
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THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY.SO, SO IF I PUT MY NAME IN, SO THERE'S NO COST, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
GELLE, YOU, WE MIGHT CHARGE, I'M SURE YOU'LL SURE YOU'LL, I'M, I'M SURE NO.
UM, NO, THERE'S NO COST TO BE INDUCTED INTO THE MUSEUM.
THAT'S SO, NO, THIS IS NOT, UH, I HAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND I CAN PAY TO BE IN THERE.
SO ONCE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ALL SOUNDS GREAT.
SO ONCE THEY GO UP, HOW LONG WILL THEY BE UP? WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR? WHAT'S THE PLAN? SO NOW THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY BANNERS LIKE THAT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE THAT? LIKE, LIKE WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
LIKE, SO WHEN I GO IN OTHER TOWNS, THEY'LL HAVE THE VETS, THEY'LL HAVE THIS AND ANY, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO, I MEAN, THAT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE, WE NEED TO ADDRESS, GET, GET ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOWN ROADS, HOW LONG DO THEY EXPECT TO BE UP? THEN THERE'S THE OTHER ISSUE OF MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? SO GOD FORBID IF THERE'S ANY DAMAGE OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? YEAH.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LEGAL CONVERSATION TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT PROCESSABILITY WILL WORK.
TO JUST MAKE FOR, MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERED.
SO, AND DO, SORRY, LEMME JUST FINISH THAT.
AND IN TERMS OF HOW LONG THEY WILL STAY UP, ALSO, LIKE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS THE FIRST GROUP, THEN IF THERE'RE STAYING UP, ARE WE, UH, GOING TO ADD TO THAT? OR DO YOU SWITCH IT OUT? LIKE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? IS IT A ROTATING THING? IS IT, IS THERE LIKE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OR, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THINGS RIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, THERE'S NO PLAN TO SWITCH THEM OUT.
SO WOULD YOU ADD THEM? WE WOULD BE ADDING ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS OR EXPAND THOSE LOCATIONS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND THOSE LOCATIONS IF WE DECIDE TO DO ADDITIONAL BANNERS.
AND I THINK THAT TO, TO SWITCH THEM OUT.
I CAN'T SEE A REASON TO NECESSARILY DO THAT.
UM, SO THIS IS A PERMANENT EXHIBIT 'CAUSE THREE STAYS THE SAME.
SO IT SHOULD BE A PERMANENT EXHIBIT.
AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, A POINT AT POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYMORE.
BUT IN TERMS OF HOW WE HAVEN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN ANY UP YET.
SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW, YOU KNOW, UHHUH YEAH.
HOW THAT WOULD WORK IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF SPACE WE CAN, WE CAN GET, UM, AGAIN, BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, A LOT OF THESE ARE FROM, WE'LL BE, UH, WE'LL NEED THE PERMISSION OF THE DOT.
THAT'S ALSO A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
LIKE WHAT IS NORMAL, UM, IN TERMS OF IT, OR IS THERE AN EXPECTATION THAT THESE BE THREE YEARS AND THEN DOT SAYS YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, RESUBMIT I THESE THINGS.
YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ADVOCATE, MARY JANE CHIMPSKY.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE OTHER, THE OTHER VILLAGERS WHO HAVE BANNERS UP? LIKE HOW WITH THEIR, YEAH, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION GIVEN ON HOW THEY DID IT.
THEIRS WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF WHO THEY DECIDED TO, UM, LIKE I SAW VETS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT IT'S THE SAME.
'CAUSE WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT GATE OF HAVE CEMETERY, WHAT'S THAT TOWN RIGHT THERE? OH, UM, UM, MOUNT PLEASANT.
MOUNT PLEASANT HAS SOME, I MEAN, THE RIVER TOWNS HAVE EM.
BUT I WAS THINKING LIKE, THE LENGTH OF 'EM, LIKE THE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY SWITCHED THEM OUT.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THEY HAVE THEM FOR.
WHICH, WHICH ONE, WHICH OF THESE ROADS, UM, ARE UNDER YOUR PURVIEW? I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW.
THE TRAIN STATION? NO, IT'S, THAT'S, NO, THE IS MTA IS IS HARD SALE TRAIN STATION.
I THINK THE REST OF THEM HAVE AT LEAST ONE STATE ROAD.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING CENTRAL AVENUE, THEN WE'RE SAYING STATE WHAT'S YOUR CENTRAL AVENUE? THAT STATE DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE CROSS.
SO, SO CENTRAL STATE, TERRYTOWN STATE, NORWOOD IS STATE.
DOS FERRY, STATE HARSDALE TRAIN STATION IS MTA.
WELL, THE HARTILL TRAIN STATION, THE SUNSET PLAZA COULD BE, UH, IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY A TRAIN STATION.
IT MAY BE ON THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY.
BUT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING RIGHT NOW WILL GO CRAZY.
YOU PUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE AMERICAN? NO, BUT IT'S, I'M TALKING ABOUT HIM THAT NOT, NOT ON, OH, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THAT, FRANCIS.
NO, I'M NOT SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING HE WAS TALKING ABOUT DE SANTA PLAZA.
NO, I'M NOT SAYING DE SANTA PLAZA.
I'M SAYING HE HAS LIKE A LITTLE CIRCLE THAT'S TOWN.
A TOWN ROAD, NOT MTA ROAD LITTLE.
SO YOU COULD, YOU COULD BASICALLY PUT IT ON, UM, THE TOWN, UM, TOWN NAMED, TOWN OWNED ROAD AT THE TRAIN STATION, THE
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GARDEN AREA.WE NAMED, WE NEAR THE HARSDALE TRAIN STATION.
IT'S NOT THE ROAD, IT'S, IT'S THE, UH, NO, NOT NOT THE PARK AREA.
I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, A POLE, UM, IN FRONT OF THE HARSDALE TRAIN STATION, WHICH IS TOWN OWNED.
WELL, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE, WELL, GARRETT, YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT.
1 78, IS THAT INTENDED TO BE A POLE IN THE LOCATION OF 1 78 TERRYTOWN ROAD, OR IS THAT AT A CERTAIN HOUSE? ONE? NO, THAT'S SAID IN, IN FRONT OF A CERTAIN HOUSE.
BUT SO MY QUESTION IS ANYTHING THAT SAYS THE CROSS STREETS, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE THE, SOME OF THESE ARE STATE CROSSED WITH LOCAL, I BELIEVE? YES.
GENERALLY THAT'S GONNA BE A STATE THAT'S GONNA FALL INTO THE STATE.
I REACHED OUT TO THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF THE STATE, DOT YESTERDAY, AND I SENT JOHAN, YOU KNOW, A COPY OF THE CONTACT, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONTACT INFORMATION ASKING IF WE COULD PUT IT UP, BUT SHE DIDN'T RESPOND.
IF, IF THERE'S SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN BOARD FOR STAFF TO GO TO THE STATE DOT, I'D BE HA I HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH, UM, REGIONAL, THE, THE, THE LOCAL PERMIT ENGINEER AT 8:00 AM I'D BE HAPPY TO.
WE JUST NEED IS THAT FOR THIS SPECIFIC OR YOU HAVE SOMETHING SAYING IT'S OKAY.
WE NEED SOMETHING FROM THEM IN WRITING TO SAY IT.
SO, BUT I'M HAPPY TO AT LEAST, UM, HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
START START THE CONVERSATION, CONVERSATION, INITIATE IT, AND GET A SENSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY HERE? I THINK WHILE, WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO THINK ABOUT ALTER IF THEY SAY YES TO SOME AND NO TO OTHERS.
LIKE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER TOWN ROADS THAT WE CAN SUB IN, WHICH IS RIGHT.
SO, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OTHER ASPECT THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED.
WHICH YOU DO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER, UM, BEING ABLE TO PUT, UM, BANNERS UP HERE.
WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AS WELL AS, UM, ALTERNATIVES.
IF THE ALTERNATIVES DO PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF VISIBILITY.
UM, I KNOW AT ONE TIME THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MEDIAN.
SO WHEN YOU, UM, GET OFF OF CENTRAL AVENUE AND COME ONTO TO TERRYTOWN ROAD, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE DRIVING, SO, YOU KNOW, NEAR THE NEW CHICK-FIL-A.
IT'S A STATE ROAD, ALLSTATE STATE, THAT'S ALL THE MEDIAN IS ALSO.
YOU HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH DECORATING THAT AREA IN THE PAST? JUST THE DECORATIONS.
CAN I ASK YOU THAT'S, I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE THINK OF SOME, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOOD, BUT I'M SORT OF WONDERING TO HAVE LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE, TO MAKE IT, MAKE IT HAVE A BIGGER IMPRESSION ON RESIDENTS.
I THINK YOU, THE SUGGESTION THAT YOU JUST MADE ABOUT DOING IT INITIALLY, SAY FOR THE FIRST YEAR AT THE TOWN HALL, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE YOU MORE, UH, MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK OR AT THE LIBRARY OR SOMETHING.
BECAUSE BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG HAS SUCH A RICH HISTORY OF, UH, OF WORLD FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE.
AND, UM, AND IF ALL THESE BANNERS ARE PLACED IN AT ONE LOCATION, I THINK THAT, UM, IT WOULD GET MORE ATTENTION.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, UH, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE MAKE MUCH, MUCH GREATER, YOU KNOW, IMPRESSION.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS, THAT HAS MORE VISUAL IMPACT WHEN THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER.
I, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION.
BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, NOT THE INTENTION AND OKAY.
SO AS A PERSON SPREAD OUT, YEAH.
AND I THINK, AGAIN, THERE ARE PLACES THAT ARE MORE, UM, SUITABLE FOR SOME OF THESE FOLKS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE PERSONAL, GORDON PARKS HOME A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY FROM ME.
SO WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR HIM TO BE, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO WHERE HIS ACTUAL HISTORIC HOME IS? UM, AND IN TERMS OF SPREADING IT OUT, I, THE TOWN HALL, WHILE IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, I DON'T, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE DRIVING BY, WELL NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, A VERY VISIBLE CORRIDOR.
IT'S NOT LIKE IN A VILLAGE WHERE THEY HAVE LIKE A, A DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET.
AND YOU CAN JUST DO IT THERE AND WHATEVER.
THIS IS HARDER, MORE CHALLENGING.
BUT YOU COULD ALSO AS ANOTHER OPTION, YOU KNOW, UH, LET'S SAY, UH, JUST LIKE THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM, YOU, YOU MOVED IT AROUND, SO NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOT NO, I'M JUST THROWING, I'M JUST THROWING OUT AN IDEA.
I'M SAYING YOU COULD SAY, UM, LET'S SAY WE, WE STARTED IT SAY BEFORE THE JUNETEENTH, UM, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATION.
AND WE SAID WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT UP FROM, UM, SAY MAY 1ST TO, UH,
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SEPTEMBER 1ST, YOU KNOW, AT ONE LOCATION THAT NO, I'M JUST SAYING AT THE TOWN HALL, THEN AFTER FRICTION.THEN AFTER THAT, AFTER AT THE END, THEN YOU, THEN EVERYBODY, THEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, OH, THIS IS REALLY AMAZING, BECAUSE THEY'LL GET MUCH MORE ATTENTION THEN WE CAN MOVE, UH, THEN WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVE, UH, THE BANNERS TO, UH, THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU WANT AFTER THAT.
AND PEOPLE THEN WILL SAY, THEN PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, WILL APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THESE, UH, I YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT THAT WORKS FOR WHEN YOU'RE DOING DISPLAYS INSIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DID HERE OR AT THE LIBRARY OR WHATEVER.
THIS IS A WHOLE INSTALLATION WITH HARDWARE ON POLES.
IT'S NOT SO EASY TO MOVE, JUST MOVE IT AROUND.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING, UM, AT LEAST 10 OF THEM AT TOWN HALL, I JUST, I THINK IT BECOMES OVERKILL.
TELL NO, THIS IS WHAT HE'S, HE'S SAYING IF HE WANTS, DON'T DEFINE THE THING.
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T EVEN, UNLESS I DON'T, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE, WHERE YOU WOULD DO THAT.
BUT I THINK IN GENERAL, WE'D RATHER JUST MOVE AHEAD WITH DOT.
AT LEAST I, I THINK THE IDEA IS FOR US NOT TO TELL OURSELVES NO,
RIGHT? SO THERE'S EIGHT AND NINE NOT THE ENTRANCE TO TOWN HALL, RIGHT? THERE'S TWO OF THEM.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN WE CAN AUTHORIZE THOSE.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE IDEA.
ONCE YOU HAVE TERRYTOWN ROAD STATE ROAD, WELL, RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR DRIVEWAY.
SO WE WE'RE LOOKING AT HILLSIDE ROAD.
IF IT'S INTERIOR ON TOWN LOT, THEN THAT'S DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE JURISDICTION THAT'S EASY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, GORDON PARKS AND DR.
SO WE JUST, SO THAT WOULD BE ON THE ENTRANCE OFF THE ROAD IN THE DRIVEWAY.
I TOLD YOU, I TOLD YOU'D BE GOOD.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS IT POSSIBLE, AND IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY, BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE BOARD TO GIVE US A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR DOT IF THEY SHOULD ASK? SURE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IT.
YOU SEE, I TOLD YOU SO YOU GONNA HAVE THAT READY FOR HIS MEETING TOMORROW MORNING? WELL, SO, AND I DON'T, DO I NEED TO TALK TO YOU OFFLINE, GARRETT, ABOUT TOMORROW? BECAUSE I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO YOU.
WHAT? CAN YOU DROP SOMETHING FOR US? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TALK SIGN? WHAT A QUOTE.
UM, AND ALSO THIS, THEY'RE GONNA GO WITH THE QR CODES.
AND SO DO WE, DO I, UM, CONNECT WITH YOU, GINA, IN TERMS OF DATES AND WHEN WE'RE GONNA GET TO DATES FOR WHAT? TO PUT THE, THE TO TOWN HALL INSTALLATION.
WELL, THE, I'M SORRY, THAT'S DONE.
YOU GOTTA HAVE TO PROCESS AFTER THAT.
THE LETTER IS FOR D-O-T-D-O-T.
CONVERSATIONS WITH GINA HAS TO DO WITH THE LIAISONING.
AND GETTING THE BANNER SUE THEM AND GETTING THEM HUNG.
I WAS JUST SAYING, BUT, BUT BEFORE YOU MAKE, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO KNOW HOW MANY, YOU DON'T WANNA JUST END UP WITH JUST TWO, RIGHT? NO.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE WHAT DOT SAYS.
AND THEN WE MAY GET A GREAT RESPONSE OR WE MAY GET A TERRIBLE RESPONSE.
AND THAT, IN THAT CASE, IF WE GET A BAD RESPONSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THINK OF SOME OTHER LOCATIONS THAT ARE ON TOWN.
SO THAT, THAT PART SHOULD BE READY TO GO IF WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IT ONTO TOWN PROPERTY RIGHT AWAY.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME HERE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT SHOULD DOT, SO LET'S, WE'RE TAKING OUT ONE, SO THAT'S 10 OF THEM.
WE'RE TAKING OUT TWO THAT ARE GOING, SO THERE'S EIGHT BANNERS MM-HMM
THAT NEED TO GO UP AROUND THE TOWN THAT RIGHT NOW ARE ON DOT OR DOT'S, UH, PURVIEW.
IF DOT SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOT, WE STILL WANT TWO BANNERS UP AND DOWN, ALL THAT.
WELL, THAT WE, I THOUGHT WE DID.
NO, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
RIGHT? SO WE STILL NEED TO COORDINATE THAT.
IF DOT SAYS YES, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S MANY, UM, WAYS THAT THEY COULD SAY YES STARTING IN, IN SEPTEMBER, THEY COULD SAY, YES, WE'LL DO IT RIGHT AWAY.
OR THEY COULD SAY NO, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SAY.
I JUST, IN MY, OR THEY CAN SAY OR THEY CAN SAY YES, BUT ONLY FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY PERMUTATIONS, BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW HERE AND WHAT WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER IS THAT TOWN HALL.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING, YEAH.
SO WHEN DO YOU WANNA PUT THE BANNERS UP AT TOWN HALL? SO WE WOULD LIKE THOSE INSTALLED, UM, BEFORE JUNETEENTH.
SO IF YOU WANNA, SO IF YOU HAVE THE STUFF, YOU HAVE ALL THE HARDWARE.
YEAH, WE HAVE ALL THE HARDWARE, THE BANNERS, EVERYTHING.
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DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO PUT IT UP.LESLIE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE CRU.
CRU, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? COMES THE POOL.
YOU HAVE ALL THAT TO PUT UP? THAT'S WHAT I, I JUST NEED TO KNOW.
WE DO POLLS HERE, RIGHT? ENTRANCE.
SO I NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
SO I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
SO IS THE IDEA TO HAVE THE QR CODE ABOVE OR BELOW THIS? UM, BELOW.
BELOW SO THAT PEOPLE CAN POINT THEIR PHONE AT IT? DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE A SAMPLE SO WE CAN SEE IT? SO THIS IS SAMPLE, WELL NOW I WILL TELL YOU IT'S SEVEN AND A HALF FEET HIGH.
AND I, I, THE BANNERS ARE SHORTER THAN ME.
SIX INCHES, 60 INCHES IS FIVE FEET.
BUT THE CUMULATIVE THEN YOU HAVE 30 SIZE.
OH, YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH THE THING? YEAH.
CAN WE SEVEN AND A HALF BANNER THAT, OKAY.
IT'S TWO AND A HALF FEET WIDE.
THE LIBRARY CURRENTLY HAS THE BANNERS UP.
THE ACTUAL BANNERS AS WELL AS WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE LIBRARY BEFORE YOU GET TO THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, THERE'S ABOUT THREE OF THEM THERE, PLUS THE QR CODE.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU SAID 60, I KNOW IT'S, I'M SHORTER THAN 60 INCHES.
SO YEAH,
SO YOU CAN HANG SEVEN AND A HALF TOGETHER.
UH, ASSUMING YOU DON'T HAVE A SPACE BETWEEN THEM NOW, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR IT, OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE QR CODE NEEDS TO BE ABLE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO POINT THEIR PHONE AND IF IT'S TOO SMALL AND YOU BLOW IT UP, IT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING.
UM, IF YOU GOT A RING DOORBELL, THE QR CODE IS REALLY TINY
THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SENT ME OR HAVE GIVEN ME THAT THEY BLEW UP AND IT, FOR SOME REASON, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T DO ENOUGH DPI.
SO THE OTHER THING IS THE TOWN DOESN'T OWN MO ALMOST, WE OWN KNOW ALMOST NO POLES.
SO IS VERIZON GOING TO ALLOW THIS TO GO UP ON THEIR POLES? YEAH, I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT MOST OF THE POLLS ARE OWNED BY CON CONEDISON.
SO WE'LL, WE WILL ALSO HAVE TO, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE DOT RIGHT, MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO NOT OBJECT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE ON THIS? NO, ON THIS PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHETHER IT'S LOCAL ROAD OR OKAY.
BUT FOR THE TOWN EITHER IT'S EITHER A VERIZON POLE, IT'S A CON ED POLE.
THERE ARE VERY FEW POLES THAT WE PUT UP.
LIKE THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE OWN POLES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S, IT'S THE OWNER OF CONED OR VERIZON.
AND YOU MIGHT JUST ASK OTHER MUNICIPALITIES LIKE LEY, BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO ARRANGE THAT.
SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA AND I'LL REACH.
BUT IF, IF THEY SAY, HEY, THE STATE SAYS, HEY, WE'RE OKAY WITH THE CONCEPT, BUT SEVEN AND A HALF FEET IS JUST TOO BIG.
SO YOU HAVE TO THINK ALSO IN TERMS OF HOW YOU WOULD ADJUST IT.
SO THE ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE, HONESTLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, DO ONE ONE ON ONE SIDE AND ONE ON THE OTHER.
BUT THEN WE WOULD ALSO, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? ONE ON ONE SIDE WE WOULD HAVE, THE PHOTO WOULD BE ON ONE SIDE AND THE QR CODE WOULD BE ON THE OTHER.
THAT'S POSSIBLY, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WITH THAT.
AND DLT MAY COME BACK AND SAY THAT IT'S A HAZARD.
UM, I'VE SEEN BILLBOARDS WITH QR CODES, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE DRIVE BY.
BUT WE, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MINDFUL OF WHATEVER THEIR REGULATIONS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING QR CODES.
HOW HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH SIZE.
I DON'T RECALL SEEING, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE ONES IN LEY ARE NOT SEVEN AND A HALF FEET.
DID YOU COMPARE IT ALL WITH LIKE WHAT'S HANGING IN THE VILLAGES? YES.
SO THE BANNERS ARE THE SAME AS WHAT YOU'LL SEE WITH THE, WHAT THE OTHER ONES IN, IN TERMS OF THAT THE QR CODE IS THE EXTRA THING ALSO THE, DO YOU THINK THE, THE LEY THEY'RE FIVE FEET.
IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE EVEN FROM THE GROUND.
NEW YORK CITY REGULATIONS, I BELIEVE ARE UP TO LIKE EIGHT FEET ON HOLD.
THERE'S, THEN I GOT, BECAUSE NEW YORK CITY HAS SOME AND THEN NEW YORK STATE HAS, YEAH.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE? IF IT'S A NO GO IN TERMS OF STREETS? NO.
IN TERMS OF HAVING THAT SEVEN AND A HALF FEET, BESIDES PUTTING ONE ON ONE SIDE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO HAVE NOT HAVE THE PHOTO ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, DO THE BANNERS HAVE THE PHOTO ON BOTH.
I MEAN, NOT HAVING A BANNER IN FRONT OF ME, IT'S HARD TO RIGHT.
NOT KNOWING THE MOUNTING HARDWARE.
ALSO, ARE THEY TWO SIDED, THE BANNERS? HOW DO THEY STICK OUT? NO, THE BANNERS ARE NOT TWO SIDED.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM WITH PUTTING THE QR CODE ON THE OTHER SIDE? BECAUSE YOU, SINCE YOU SENT, YOU WOULD KNOW IT'S ON THE BACK OF THE BANNER.
THEY DRIVE, THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK THE OTHER WAY.
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YEAH.LOCAL ROADS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY.
BUT NOW I'M JUST SAYING HAVING THE QR CODE IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE GO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT, GO TO A, GO TO A SITE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S YOUR SITE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE TOWN BOARD SITE, IF THAT'S FEASIBLE.
UM, DBH HAVE THE DO COM VERY SIMPLE.
WELL PUT THAT IN YOUR BACK POCKET BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT.
WHAT WAS THAT SUGGESTION? YEAH, WE MISSED TO JUST HAVE A, HAVE A WEBSITE.
OH YEAH, JUST A WEBSITE ADDRESS.
UM, JUST WRAPPING IT UP FOR, FOR AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT IT WE CAN DO TONIGHT.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE ON THIS PROPERTY IT WOULD GO? THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, I HAVE TO TALK TO, YOU MEAN FOR THE TWO HAVE TO GO UP? OR IF WE DID A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM, SHE JUST WELL, THE TWO TWO, WE'RE ONLY DOING TWO HERE.
AND DO YOU WANT, 'CAUSE WE CAN BRING SOME BARRIERS, LIKE IF WE NEED TO KIND OF WALK AND GET A VISUAL.
SO LET'S SET UP A TIME WHERE WE CAN MEET WITH STAFF AND WE CAN DO A SITE VISIT.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND FRANK MARDO HAS TO BE THERE AND IF YOU'RE PUTTING UP A POLL, WE HAVE TO GET IT MARKED OUT.
JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO UTILITIES THAT WE MIGHT HIT, LIKE MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED AT ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE.
BUT WE, I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
CONSULTANT MAY HAVE HIT THAT NOT TOWN STAFF.
FOR THE RECORD? YEAH, FOR THE RECORD.
BUT I'M SAYING WE'RE DOING IT HERE.
WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THE UTILITIES TELL US EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE CAN, WE'LL FIND THE TIME.
UM, GAR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK HOLD.
HOW IS IT DECIDED THAT THOSE TWO WOULD BE AT TOWN HALL? BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, LOIS BROS WAS ON THE BOARD.
WE PROBABLY CAN, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THIS ALL NIGHT.
MAYBE YOU ONLY HEAR YOU ROTATE.
IF YOUR STAFF IS WILLING TO DO THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WITH ANY OF THESE, THERE'S NO LIKE, WRITTEN IN STONE AND, AND WHEN I SAY WRITTEN IN STONE, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TOSS IT UP ALL NIGHT ABOUT WHO SHOULD GO WHERE AND WE WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO KIND OF JUST DECIDE.
IS MANHATTAN AVENUE A TOWN ROAD? YES.
WE KNOW THAT THESE CORNERS, I'M JUST LIKE SORT OF NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING.
WHEN YOU SAY MANHATTAN AVENUE AND TARRYTOWN ROADS, THAT'S THE CORNER INTERSECTION.
SO, BUT MANHATTAN AVENUE IS VERY VISIBLE AND WE COULD CERTAINLY PUT BARBARA PERRY'S BANNER THERE.
I MEAN THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GET, NOT THE CORNER DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE AT THE CORNER? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE POLE IS.
AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE ON UNION BAPTIST OR ON LAUNDROMAT, PUT IT SOMEWHERE ON MANHATTAN AVENUE, NOT THERE.
I THINK THEY'RE, EXCEPT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AS MUCH VISIBILITY ON MAIN ROADS AS POSSIBLE.
I'M SAYING IF, IF IT'S EASIER FOR US TO GRANT THE ACCESS FOR YOU FOR THE BANNER BY SAYING WE'LL PUT IT ON OUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS MANHATTAN AVENUE, RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO TO THE DOT FOR AS MANY OF THESE, I'M SORRY.
MANHATTAN AVENUE FURTHER IN MANHATTAN AVENUE.
I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO DO IS JUST MAYBE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALTERNATIVES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE PENDING THE DOT SAYING ABSOLUTELY NOT.
DOT IS THE BEST WAY WE CAN GET D CONNED VERIZON.
SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK, GO TO THEM ALL AT ONE TIME.
TRY TO WORK ON MAGIC TOMORROW.
BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GOING BACK AND FORTH FROM BE DELAYED IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MEET THE DEADLINE OF A CERTAIN TIME, OF A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME, LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THE TIMEFRAME.
BUT I NEED THAT BEFORE I CAN MOVE FORWARD.
SO I NEED TO, BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, I NEED, I NEED THE MEASUREMENTS.
WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE BANNERS WE NEED TO MAKE.
SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHEN, WHEN STAFF AND EVERYONE IN YOUR COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER CAN MEET SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE.
AT TOWN HALL, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
SO THE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN BOARD THAT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE WITH YOU IN THE MORNING.
A LETTER OF SUPPORT OR I DON'T FALL TOMORROW.
TOMORROW'S GONNA BE RATHER INFORMAL.
BUT YOU CAN SAY, WE'RE GONNA GET, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD WILL PROVIDE YOU A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
NO, WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE VERY MUCH IN THERE AND YOU KNOW, AND THEN AFTER THIS WE CAN DISCUSS THE CAB CALLAWAY STATUE AT THE LIBRARY AT SOME POINT NEXT UP ON AND JENNA? YEP.
THAT WAS ONLY IF IT'S ONLY IF IT'S NIE PAWELL? NO, NO, IT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE, I WOULD DISCUSSED IT WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD, NOT THE BOARD, BUT THE, WELL MAYBE SHE DID.
CHRISTINE, I'M LIAISON TO THE LIBRARY.
SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOT TOMORROW, ARE YOU GONNA ASK FOR A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD?
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YOU'RE JUST GONNA SEE WHAT THEY SAY? YEAH, I WOULDN'T GO WITH TIME PERIOD.SEE OR IF YOU CAN ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN FIND THE NO, I'M JUST, WELL, IF THEY SAY YES, THEN YOU CAN SAY, HEY IF WE CAN.
DON'T GIVE HER ANY I'M TOWN BOARD.
THEY MAY ACTUALLY PUT A TIME PERIOD JUST SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A SITUATION, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UH, NEXT I SEE FOIL APPEAL 3 0 3, WHICH WAS BRIEFLY DISCUSSED LAST WEEK.
UM, I DID SEND, I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS ON ZOOM.
I'M NOT SURE IF HE WAS INVITED OR, OR WELL, WE DON'T NEED GARRETT FOR THAT, RIGHT? WE INVITE HIM.
NO, BUT DO WE NEED GARRETT FOR ANYTHING ELSE? ARE WE NO, IF YOU NEED ME, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS INVITED.
YOU ARE JUST AMAZING EVERYONE.
HOLLY, DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW IF THE APPELLANTS FROM THE FOIL APPEAL WAS DIVIDED TO THE WORK SECTION? HE WAS INVITED LAST WEEK, WEEK, INVITED THIS WEEK.
I HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM OVER THE PAST WEEK.
SO WE CAN HAVE THAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, IS THE THING SATISFIED? NO, THE PORTION IS, THAT'S SATISFIED FROM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION LAST TUESDAY.
I SAID WE WOULD SEND THE APPROPRIATE EMAILS THE NEXT DAY, WHICH WE DID.
UH, WE LET WHAT, WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE EMAIL BE? WELL, I'M ABOUT TO GO INTO WE OH, OKAY.
WE HAD TO, UM, TAKE SOME OF THE EMAILS OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE EITHER AT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE OR THEY MET ONE OF THE, UH, EXCEPTIONS THROUGH FOIL LAW.
BUT THE ONES THAT WERE NOT PRIVILEGED OR PART OF AN EXEMPTION EXCEPTION, UM, WE DID SEND OVER LAST WEDNESDAY, BUT I'M SUPERVISOR, I BELIEVE YOU'RE WORKING WITH IT FOR THE OTHER PORTION.
THAT, THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT PORTION.
UM, SO I, I SATISFY THE LEGAL END FOR THE, UH, CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE TOWN EMAIL ADDRESS.
SO HOW MANY WERE, UM, ATTORNEY CLIENT? OH, I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT.
THE ONES THAT WERE NOT SENT OVER WERE, MAYBE I CAN GET YOU A ROUGH NUMBER.
AND SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE NOW? I'M NOT SURE.
THAT'S UP TO THE SUPERVISOR AND, AND IT, I I DON'T HAVE THE REST OF THAT INFORMATION.
SO HOW DO WE DECIDE THE APPEAL? WELL, WE DID SAY LAST WEEK, AND WHEN I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE APPELLANT, I HAD ADVISED THAT I WOULD SHARE MY INFO BY THE WEDNESDAY, WHICH I DID.
AND I SAID THE PLAN IS FOR THE SUPERVISOR TO SEND THE REMAINING INFORMATION BY THIS WEEK.
AND TRUTHFULLY, THE APPELLANT DOES NOT NEED TO WORK WITH US.
HE CAN FILE AN ARTICLE 78 AT THIS TIME.
WE'VE HAD A PLEASANT CONVERSATION AND WE'RE COOPERATING AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I HOPE IT DOESN'T GO TO COURT PAPERS.
BUT, UM, THAT, THAT'S FOR HIM TO DECIDE.
AND THE QUICKER WE CAN GET THE REST OF THE RELEVANT INFORMATION OUT WOULD BE BETTER.
BUT WE HAVE TO RENDER AN OPINION.
IT'S WHEN DO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RENDER AN OPINION IF THE FULL SET OF DOCUMENTS ARE SENT FOIL LAW SAYS, I KNOW YOU MUST DO ONE OR THE OTHER.
IT, SO I KNOW WE HAD TO PAY I THINK $37,000 ON A PARTICULAR APPEAL WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THE APPEAL.
WE, WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE APPEAL PROCESS.
I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY 37 5
SO AT THIS TIME IT WAS RICK TURNER AT THIS TIME, I THINK THE TOWN CAN SHOW A GOOD FAITH EFFORT IN, IN THE PRODUCTION OF THE DOCUMENTS OF DEFINITELY THE EMAILS THAT THAT LEGAL'S GONE THROUGH.
TYPICALLY IT WOULD'VE TAKEN ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO TO GO THROUGH THAT LARGE VOLUME.
UM, BUT, BUT AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE REMAINING SET OF DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO BE PRODUCED.
SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? I SUGGEST THAT THEY CAN BE SENT THIS WEEK.
THEY, THEY ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE SENT THIS WEEK BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE NOTIFIED THE APPELLANT OVER THE LAST WEEK.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT IT'S MADE A PRIORITY THAT IT'S ALL SENT THIS WEEK, AND IF NOT, WE SHOULD REVISIT AND, AND SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE ISSUE IS THAT FALLS WITHIN THE TIMING GIVEN RIGHT.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PAST THE TIMING PURSUANT TO FOIL LAW THAT THAT WAS DUE ONE WEEK AGO,
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UM, LAST TUESDAY.BUT IT DOES DEAL WITH THE FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION THAT THIS IS THE PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTEMPT TO DO TO SEND IT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
AND YOU'LL NOTIFY HIM THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS.
WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT THAT.
HE HAD A FEW FOLLOW UP CONVERSATIONS, WHICH, UM, I, I SPOKE TO HIM.
I HAVEN'T SPOKE TO HIM THIS WEEK AT ALL, BUT I COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THE SUPERVISOR AND IT, AND THE APPELLANT AS WELL.
UH, NEXT, UH, THE AGENDA REVIEW.
UH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION BEFORE I, I HAD ASKED, UM, UH, THE TOWN BOARD, IF WE COULD ASK, UM, THE BUILDING, UH, DEPARTMENT TO GIVE US A LIST OF, UM, OF ALL INSPECTIONS, UM, THAT ARE DONE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
UH, WHO DID THE INSPECTIONS AND I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.
UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS RELATING TO MY CONCERN ABOUT HAVING THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, BE ONE PERSON.
I, I, I THINK, UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE SAME PERSON IS QUALIFIED TO DO ONE JOB, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, ANY HUMAN BEING COULD DO BOTH JOBS.
UM, AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR A RESPONSE.
AND I JUST AM WONDERING, SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS, IF, UM, IF I MADE A FREEDOM OF, IF I CAN'T GET THAT INFORMATION AND I MADE A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I I JUST WANT THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S GONNA HELP THE TOWN BOARD DO OUR JOB OF, UM, DETERMINE DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THE WORK CAN BE DONE BY ONE PERSON.
YOU KNOW, I WANNA SEE HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE DONE EVERY WEEK, WHO'S DOING IT, UM, UM, HOW LONG THEY'VE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT EACH INSPECTION TURNED OUT.
AND THEN I WANT TO COMPARE THESE INSPECTIONS TO WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING, SIMILAR SIZE COMMUNITIES ARE DOING WITH THEIR INSPECTIONS.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. SUPERVISOR, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD MADE A FOIL REQUEST, NOT A FOIL REQUEST.
I, I ASKED BECAUSE YOU, I ASKED, I ASKED THE TOWN BOARD IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, OKAY.
I COULD REQUEST AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WROTE TO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, YOU CAN REQUEST IT.
UM, SUPERVISOR, BUT I'M JUST ASKING WOULD THE BOARD NO, I'M JUST SAYING YOU CAN REQUEST IT AND YES.
I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, IT TAKES SOME TIME TO COMPILE.
WE CAN JUST RUN A REPORT AND YOU GET ALL SPIT OUT INFORMATION.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS MENTIONED TO YOU AS WELL.
SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT A TIME HOW WE CAN START CAPTURING THESE METRICS.
UM, I MEAN, I KNOW THEY PROVIDED METRICS TO YOU LAST WEEK OR WEEKS, WEEKS.
THEY JUST SAID HOW MANY, OKAY.
SO NOW WE CAN DRAW DOWN ON THOSE METRICS AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM TIME.
SO TO PULL THAT ALL, TO PULL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER.
I MEAN, THIS, AS YOU ARE AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON, ALL THE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON, THERE'S STILL, REGARDLESS, REGARDLESS IF THIS, IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS PERSON TO HAVE TWO JOBS, THERE'S STILL LEVEL OF STUFF THAT HAS, THAT'S GOING ON IN THIS TOWN IS STILL HAPPENING.
SO THAT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO PULL TOGETHER.
WELL, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS OVERNIGHT.
AND I HAVE ASKED THAT WHATEVER YOU ARE ASKING OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THEIR INSPECTIONS APPLIES TO EVERY EMPLOYEE WHO DOES INSPECTIONS.
TO SHOW THAT IT'S NOT RETALIATORY.
WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY INFORMATION AND I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU REQUEST FROM ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT DOES INSPECTIONS.
THE SAME TYPE OF MINUTIA THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
WELL, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE THAT HAS TWO JOBS OF THE SAME TOWN.
UM, WELL, THAT'S NOT, I THINK THAT'S NOT TRUE.
ALL I'M SAYING IS I'M GONNA ASK WHAT I THINK I NEED FOR ME TO DO THE JOB.
AND YOU'RE ENTITLED TO, UH, MAKE A REQUEST TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU THINK I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE ASKING.
YOU CAN ASK FOR IT, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THAT LEVEL OF MINUTIAE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS BECAUSE PAUL, I DIDN'T I INTERRUPT YOU? I'LL LET ME SPEAK THEN YOU CAN SPEAK THEN I COULD SPEAK.
ANYBODY COULD SPEAK TO ASK FOR THAT LEVEL OF MINUTIA IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THEM ACTUALLY DOING THEIR JOB.
THAT KIND OF MINUTIA HAS NEVER BEEN REQUESTED, EVEN WHEN WE WERE SHORT STAFFED.
BUT NOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT, AND I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE SETTING THEM UP FOR FAILURE, SPENDING SO MUCH TIME DEALING WITH WHAT TIME DID THEY ARRIVE? HOW LONG DID THEY STAY THERE? WHAT DID, AND FRANKLY, THE COMMISSIONER WAS AT THE ELFORD LITTLE LEAGUE DEALING WITH A, UH, MAJOR SEWER MAIN BREAK, SECOND LARGEST SIZE SEWER PIPE IN WESTCHESTER
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COUNTY.SO DOES HE PUT THAT DOWN AS 11 HOURS.
AND IT ONLY DID ONE INSPECTION.
IT TOOK SO LONG TO DO THAT INSPECTION.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS BASICALLY USELESS DATA, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM TIME TO DO THAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA ASK THAT OF ONE EMPLOYEE OR TWO EMPLOYEES, ASK IT FOR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO GO OUT INTO THE FIELD AND DO INSPECTIONS WELL, AND THEN I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
AND MAY I SAY SOMETHING? PLEASE? AND YOU REFERENCED THAT IT'S DONE IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
AND DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION IF IT'S DONE IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES? NO.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF THE TOWN, IS THAT A YES OR NO? I HAVE, I HAVE, I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY OF DO, OF OVERSEEING ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS.
AND BASICALLY I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING VALUE FOR THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
SO I'M ASKING, UH, ON A WEEKLY BASIS, UM, AS LONG AS, UH, ONE PERSON'S HOLDING, UH, TWO JOBS, COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND BUILDING INSPECTOR, I'M ASKING FOR, UM, A LIST OF ALL THE INSPECTIONS DONE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
UM, WHO CONDUCTED THE INSPECTIONS? UM, UM, UH, THE FINDINGS, AND I WANT THAT ON MY DESK WEEKLY.
I, THE THING IS, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THE JOB AS I THINK I NEED TO BECAUSE I BASICALLY FAILED, FIRST OF ALL, I WROTE, I THOUGHT MR. MURDO, COMMISSIONER MURDO DID A GOOD JOB, UM, AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD.
AND I EVEN WROTE HIM A, A LETTER COMMENDING HIM.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT THE WAY, UM, UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WENT THERE ON I THINK SUNDAY, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS IMPRESSED.
I, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS IMPRESSED.
I THOUGHT THAT, UM, UH, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE CLEARED UP, UH, UM, SOONER THAN ORIGINALLY, UH, THOUGHT.
UM, I, I THINK THAT, UH, THEY ACTED QUICKLY.
BUT AGAIN, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE SPENDING ALL THE, YOU KNOW, IN PUBLIC WORKS, THERE'S LITTLE CRISES ALL, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY FREQUENTLY BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A COMPLICATED, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S WATER, HIGHWAY SANITATION, UM, BUILDING MAINTENANCE.
THERE'S SO, UH, YOU KNOW, SNOW REMOVAL POTHOLES, THERE'S, UH, UH, WATER TANKS, UH, SEWER BREAKS.
UM, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT HAPPEN AND THERE'S ALWAYS ISSUES.
SO I FEEL, UM, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, UM, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE A LOT OF TIME.
UM, AND THAT'S GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME SAYING, OH, MR. BARBIDO IS NOT QUALIFIED, UM, TO DO EITHER OR.
I THINK HE'S VERY DEDICATED, VERY HARDWORKING, VERY CREATIVE.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, HE DOES A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS FOR THE TOWN.
I JUST WOULD, THERE, I WOULD NEVER, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS NO MATTER WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD THE JOB, UM, OR THE JOBS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S MANAGEABLE.
AND I THINK IT'S A GROSS, UH, GROSS NEGLIGENCE BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE, YOU'RE SETTING SOMEBODY UP FOR FAILURE.
AND, AND WE DO HAVE THREE VACANCIES, UM, ON, UH, ON THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THEY'VE BEEN VACANT FOR THREE YEARS.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE, UM, UH, A COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, WHO HAS A JOB AS DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR WANTS TO BE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE ONE INSPECTOR WHO'S A PLUMBING INSPECTOR.
SO THE THING IS, HOW IS A JOB GONNA GET DONE? WE HAVE FEWER INSPECTORS IN GREENBURG THAN, UM, THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SMALL THAN US.
AND I'M, I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED AND VERY WORRIED THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL ON NOTICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO POINT FINGERS ON ME.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, UM, I REITERATE AND I ASKED YOU A QUESTION WHICH YOU DIDN'T ANSWER, WHICH WAS YOU REFERENCED THAT HE, THAT THIS SHOULD BE DONE LIKE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO.
NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE YOU COMPLIMENT SOMEONE AFTER YOU'VE BEEN ABUSIVE TO THEM, DOES NOT NEGATE THE ABUSIVENESS.
AND YOU'VE DONE THAT REPEATEDLY.
NUMBER THREE, I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABUSIVE.
I SAID THAT MR. MODO QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB.
HE'S, SHE DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU, PAUL.
BUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS SAY THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.
AND I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING ABOUT MR. MODO, I'M SPEAKING ABOUT OTHER MEMBERS OF THE STAFF, SENIOR STAFF
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AT THAT.SO I JUST WANT TO DISTRIBUTE YOU OF THAT IDEA THAT IF, IF YOU, AFTER YOU'VE DONE YELLED AT SOMEONE, BY GIVING THEM A COMPLIMENT, DOES NOT NEGATE THEM.
AND YOU'VE DONE THAT REPEATEDLY WITH ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION.
UH, ALSO, THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HOLD TWO JOBS WHO WORK IN FOR THE, THE TOWN.
SO, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING TO ALSO KEEP IN MIND.
AND ALSO YOU TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND MAYBE THAT'S YOU, THAT'S SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE PEOPLE YOU THINK ARE GOING TO BELIEVE IT, BUT THE FACTS WILL PROVE OUT.
ARE WE GONNA DO THE GENDER REVIEW? WELL, I, I DO WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU ARE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, THAT WHAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS VOTED FOR, WHICH YOU DON'T SUPPORT, IS SAVING $157,000 BY DOING IT THIS WAY.
SO, AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
$157,000 BY HANDLING THE REORGANIZATION THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT.
AND MR. BARBIDO DOESN'T DO 35 HOURS, AND HE'S DOING BOTH JOBS IN 35 HOURS.
AND HE HAS BEEN, AND HE HAS BEEN DOING 70 TO 80 HOURS, AND HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, HE WAS THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
AND YOU BASICALLY SAID SQUAT FOR THAT ENTIRE YEAR AND A HALF.
THERE WAS NOT THIS PUBLIC OUTCRY.
AND I WILL TELL YOU HERE WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING TO OTHERS.
WHY WOULD YOU BE SO INTENT ON CHALLENGING SOMEBODY WHO'S SAVING US $157,000 BY WRITING TO THE PATCH, PUTTING IT ON YOUR PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE? SOMEBODY IN FRANCE, WHO KNOWS? FRA FRANK CALLED HIM UP AND ASKED HIM WHAT'S GOING ON? I CALL IT CHARACTER ASSASSINATION, BUT WHY WOULD YOU BE DOING THIS SO INTENTLY? AND MY BELIEF IS THAT IT'S ALL A DISTRACTION.
ALL WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IS FRANK MORABITO AND LIZ GARRITY, THE FINEST EMPLOYEES ANYBODY COULD EVER HAVE.
AND YOU CAN SEE HIS WORK WHENEVER HE IS OUT THERE, INCLUDING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THAT ELMWOOD LITTLE LEAGUE WHERE A CONTRACTOR, NOT TOWN, BUT A CONTRACTOR PUNCTURED A 66 INSIDE DIAMETER INCH, UH, SEWER SEWER PIPE THAT CARRIES SEWAGE ALL THE WAY FROM MOUNT KESCO DOWN TO THE TREATMENT PLANT AND YONKERS, AND HOW THIS DEVASTATING DAMAGE IS BEING HANDLED, ORGANIZED.
HE'S LIKE AN ORCHESTRA LEADER OUT THERE TO GET THIS THING DONE WITHOUT DELAY.
BUT WHILE YOU ARE SO INTENT AT FILLING THE NEWSPAPERS ABOUT FRANK MORABITO, I AM CONVINCED IT'S BECAUSE YOU WANNA MAKE A CR A A DISTRACTION.
YOU CAN'T START A WAR, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE A DISTRACTION TO TAKE PEOPLE AWAY FROM THINKING ABOUT THE FORENSIC AUDIT AND THE DAMAGE THAT YOU HAVE DONE AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND NOT DONE, I SHOULD SAY.
AND YOU WANT THE FORENSIC REPORT OFF OF THE HOMEPAGE.
YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
AND NOW SINCE YOU WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS, YOU NOW NEED A DISTRACTION TO GET PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
LIKE, HOW IS SOMEBODY NOT DOING THEIR JOB, WHO'S DOING TWO JOBS, SOMETHING THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF? AND YOU NEVER TELL PEOPLE HE IS BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, HE WAS A DEPUTY THEN YOU HAD A, A ACTUAL COMMISSIONER.
THAT ACTUAL COMMISSIONER WAS BASICALLY NULLIFIED BY YOU, MR. SUPERVISOR, BECAUSE ALL HE COULD DO ALL DAY
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LONG IS COMMISSION OF DPW IS SIT THERE AND ANSWER YOUR 20,000 EMAILS THAT YOU ADMIT.YOU SENT IN A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE, 20,000 EMAILS THAT HE HAS TO SIT THERE ALL DAY LONG AND RESPOND TO.
SO FRANK, FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, MODO WAS RUNNING DPW.
AND NOW THAT HE HAS THE TITLE OF COMMISSIONER, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S, AND IT'S, AND I'VE, IT'S JUST CAME TO ME YESTERDAY.
YOU'RE JUST CREATING THIS DISTRACTION TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM NOT THINKING ABOUT THE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF MONEY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THIS IS A LAWSUIT.
UM, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING, THERE'S SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT COULD GO WRONG, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED AND ONE PERSON CAN'T DO TWO JOBS.
AND I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT SAVING MONEY.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA COST THE TOWN MONEY IN THE LONG TERM.
AND, UM, AND AT SOME POINT, LEE, CAN WE GO TO AGENDA REVIEW? YEAH, PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST A NOTE FOR THE AGENDA.
THE, UM, THE SPELLING OF I GOT IT.
YOU ARE MISSING A FEW DOLLAR SIGNS TOO WHEN YOU GET TO THE MONEY.
WAIT FOR YOU TO ASK THE QUESTION.
I WONDER, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
I DON'T THINK WE, UH, DID THEM LAST TIME.
THE LIAISON REPORT, YOU DIDN'T THERE FOR PUBLIC HEARING WASN'T I WASN'T HERE.
SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ON THE WATER MAIN BREAK.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LONG.
OH, IT WON'T BE
UH, I HAD GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, UH, AN EMAIL JOE FROM, UH, MISS, UH, THE LEY, UH, VOLUNTEER COURSE.
SO DOES THAT, DID THE CHANGES COVER WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT? NO, THIS, THAT ISSUE BROUGHT UP BY, UM, THE RESIDENT HAS COME PRETTY LATE IN THE GAME AND WE HAVE A MAY 1ST TAXABLE STATUS DATE AND WE JUST REHEARD THIS LAW.
SO THEY'RE GONNA LOSE IT AGAIN.
THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION THROUGH THE EMAILS.
A LOT OF EMAILS WERE FLYING BACK AND FORTH.
WE SAW THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS HAD ISSUES.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE AMBULANCE COURSE SAYING THAT THEIR MEMBERS CANNOT MEET THE 10% REQUIREMENT TO GET THE EXEMPTION.
BUT THIS WAS SENT A FEW WEEKS AGO, I BELIEVE, TO SUPERVISOR.
I I JUST NOTICED IT MONDAY YESTERDAY.
AND YOU ALREADY HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING BACK LAST YEAR.
YOU DID EVEN, I BELIEVE YOU STARTED PUBLIC HEARINGS PERHAPS THE YEAR BEFORE.
AT LEAST WE WERE WORKING ON THE LAW THE YEAR BEFORE.
AND THE 10% BEING AN ISSUE FOR AMBULANCE COURT MEMBERS NEVER CAME UP TO MY ATTENTION.
AND WE HAD QUITE A FEW MEMBERS HERE.
BUT, BUT I DID, I DID REALIZE, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GO TO THE STATE AND ASK FOR SPECIAL LEGISLATION FOR THE C CORPS ARDSLEY, UM, OR ARDSLEY C CORPS.
SOMETIMES IT'S PROBABLY ARDSLEY C CORPS, UH, AMBULANCE CORPS.
SO THAT THEY COULD BE, HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIAL DISTRICT.
'CAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY'RE RIGHT, THEY DON'T FIT INTO ANY ONE GROUP.
REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT? YEAH, WE I DO.
BUT SO MAYBE WE COULD SEE WHETHER OR NOT ANDREA CAN DO SOMETHING.
BUT IF WE HAVE A MAY 1ST DEADLINE NO, NO, I'M NOT.
THIS IS SEPARATE, SEPARATE, SEPARATE.
SO, BUT REGARDING THE, IF WE WANNA DO SOMETHING FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS THIS YEAR, WE'VE GOTTA DO IT.
AND WE'D HAVE TO ADDRESS THE OTHER ISSUES FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR LIKE A COUPLE YEARS ALREADY.
WELL, WELL, NO, WHAT IF, I THINK WE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP PREVIOUSLY.
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JUST SAID THOUGH.YEAH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, SO SHOULD WE, COULD WE INVITE THE ODDSLY AMBULANCE COURT TO, I I THINK WE, WE WON'T MEET THE MAY 1ST DEADLINE.
NO, WE HAVE, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
IF YOU WANNA GIVE THE FIREFIGHTERS WHAT YOU PROMISED THEM.
THEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT FIRST AND THEN FOR THE NEXT YEAR, WE CAN DO THE EMT.
IS THAT NEED, DOES THAT NEED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE TAKING CARE OF, AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING ARE YOU AGREE WITH IS APPLYING TO THE STATE TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION, RIGHT.
WHAT FRANCIS JUST MENTIONED, TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR THE LEY C CORPS AMBULANCE COURT.
SO WE HAVE TO, BEFORE WE DO KNOW THEIR ISSUES AND THEIR CONCERNS AND WHERE WE, WE FEEL THAT THAT MIGHT BE THE WAY TO ADDRESS IT.
AND SO ONCE WE GET A RESPONSE FROM THE STATE FOR THAT, THEN WE CAN PROCEED AND WE CAN INCORPORATE IT INTO, I I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING OUR PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SAY, PASS A RESOLUTION ASKING A, A HOME RULE REQUEST? ASKING, UM, ASKING, UH, YOU KNOW, ANDREA AND MARY JANE, UH, TO BASICALLY, UH, AUTHORIZE LIKE AN, AUTHORIZE US TO ENACT WHAT THE VOLUNTEERS ARE ASKING, UM, AND MAKE IT RE AND BASICALLY MAKE IT RETROACTIVE.
SO, SO EVEN IF WE'RE NOT MEETING THE MAY 1ST, YOU KNOW, DEADLINE, WE STILL COULD BASICALLY, UH, DO WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION, YOU KNOW, MARY JANE AND, AND ANDREA, WHICH I THINK THEY PROBABLY WOULD DO.
UM, AND THEN IF THE GOVERNOR SIGNS IT, THEN THERE'S NO HARM.
BUT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO IT'S NOT JUST LEGISLATION THAT IS INTRODUCED BY ANDREA AND THE SENATE AND MARY JANE IN HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR VARIOUS PROCESSES, THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES THAT EACH NO, BUT EACH ONE HAS, I'M SAYING, BUT WE COULD DO A HOME RULE REQUEST THAT CAN, BUT, BUT THAT A HOME RULE REQUEST THAT DEAL WITH THE, UH, ODDLY CCO AMBULANCE COURT.
AND JUST ASK, SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THIS, THE TOWN GOT THIS LETTER FROM THE ALEY AMBULANCE SEA COURT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE TIME FACTOR, WE CAN'T GET IT DONE, YOU KNOW, BY MAY 1ST.
HOWEVER, UM, WE WOULD, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL ASK THE STATE LEGISLATORS, UM, TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION THAT COULD MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, RETROACTIVE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHICH THEY'VE DONE.
THESE TYPES OF THINGS IN THE PAST.
AND THEN WE, AND THEN WE COULD SHOW THE ARDSLEY SECRET AMBULANCE COURT THAT WE'RE TRYING AND UM, AND IF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE STATE TO DO IT THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD ALWAYS, THE STATE COULD ALWAYS, UM, PASS A LAW NEXT YEAR AND MAKE IT RETROACTIVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DIDN'T GET THE, THE BENEFITS, UH, ONE OR TWO YEARS THEY COULD MAKE IT ALL RETROACTIVE.
AND, AND, AND, AND THEN I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL AVOID A, A CONTROVERSY.
SO THE, THE PART PORTION OF THE CODE THAT'S AT ISSUE IS THAT CURRENTLY THE TOWN BOARD IS REQUIRING THAT A VOLUNTEER ANSWER 10% OF SERVICE GOALS.
SO IF YOU'RE UNDOING THAT FOR AMBULANCE MEMBERS, THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, YOU'RE UNDOING THAT FOR FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL.
SO THEN YOU COME BACK TO THE CREATION OF THE POLICY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
CAN'T WE SEPARATE IT OUT AS TO TWO DIFFERENT POLICIES? YOU CAN IN, IN THE CODE, YOU CAN, RIGHT.
BUT THEN HOW ARE YOU TO MAKING THAT DETERMINATION PART OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THE WHOLE PURPOSE, WHAT FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS FOR BOTH.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF DOING MM-HMM
A 10% EXEMPTION, 20% IF YOUR SPOUSE IS ALSO DOING OFF OF YOUR PROPERTY TAXES, WAS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO JOIN SO THEY CAN HAVE PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO CALLS.
YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS NOT TO GIVE A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION SO THEY CAN ATTEND A PARADE.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO VOLUNTEER, BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE THE OTHER TAXPAYERS IN THE DISTRICT SAY, OKAY, WE'LL PICK UP THE COST OF YOUR DEDUCTION, WHICH IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S GETTING SPREAD OVER EVERYBODY ELSE.
THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME MINIMUM STANDARD OF SHOWING UP TO CALLS.
WELL, IN ANY CASE, WE CAN'T ADDRESS THE AMBULANCE
ANYWAY, PASS THIS, DO THIS FIRST.
SO WE HAVE TO PASS THIS, AND THEN WE CAN TALK AFTER THAT ABOUT SOME REMEDIAL THING WE COULD DO.
IF, IF, IF, UM, JOE CAN EXPLAIN TO US THE FORMAT OF WHAT WE CAN POSSIBLY DO, WE CAN TAKE WELL, WE HAVE A WHOLE YEAR.
LEMME FINISH SAYING WHAT I WAS SAYING.
A WHICH IS WE CAN TAKE THAT UP AT A LATER DATE.
IF WE DO A HOME RULE REQUEST, WE SHOULD GET THIS OUT,
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YOU KNOW, AT THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE, UH, THE, WE WOULD WANT THE LEGISLATURE TO APPROVE IT.AND IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.
THEY WILL, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT.
RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY THEY'RE, THEY STILL DONE THE BUDGET.
THEY DON'T DO I'M, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THEY, THEY BASICALLY DO HOME RULE REQUESTS.
THEY DO HOME RULE REQUESTS USUALLY IN JUNE.
I THINK I HAVE TO PREPARE A WRITTEN MEMO FOR THE BOARD TO TELL YOU.
SHALL WE FINISH? WE'RE ALL GOOD.
WE'RE PASSING THIS THOUGH TOMORROW, RIGHT? YES.
SO THE, WHAT BASICALLY WE'LL DO IS I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN FIREFIGHTERS FOR 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, GET THE EXEMPTION OF THEY ASKED FOR, WHICH IS WHAT STARTED THIS.
AND ALSO THE, THE EXCEPTION FOR IF SOMEONE'S INJURED ON THE JOB AS WELL, THEY COULD STILL APPLY AND COUNT TOWARDS THAT 20 YEAR MM-HMM
HOW WERE THE, UH, WEST HARSDALE AVENUE.
HILLSIDE AVENUE AND LEY ROAD DETERMINED TO BE THE BEST PLACES FOR THE SPEED ZONE CAMERAS? THAT WAS DETERMINED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, BEN SERGEANT DEALS WITH TRAFFIC.
THEY, THEY REVIEWED, UM, SEVERAL YEARS WORTH OF ACCIDENT REPORTS TO DETERMINE WHICH INTERSECTIONS HAD THE MOST, UM, ACCIDENTS THAT WOULD NECESSITATE HAVING, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WEREN'T YOU DOING SOME REVISIONS, JOE, OR SOME THERE, I THOUGHT THERE'S SOME REVISIONS THAT HAD TO BE DONE.
THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, UH, AMANDA AND LIZ HAD AMANDA RIGHT.
SO HAVE WE SEEN THE, I BELIEVE THEY WERE SENT THE VERY NEXT DAY.
IT WAS JUST TOO LATE FOR THE LAST AGENDA.
AND YOU WERE GOOD WITH THOSE CHANGES? YEAH, AMANDA DID IT, IT WAS FINE.
UM, FOR TB SIX, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR A SCHEDULE.
SO YES, THE PROGRAM HAS STARTED AND IT WILL.
UM, WELL WE DO NEED THE SCHEDULE TO YES.
SO YOU CAN'T SELL YOU THE CONTRACT WITHOUT HAVING TO SCHEDULE.
BUT YOU'VE BEEN IN TOUCH, YOU'VE SENT BACK? YES, WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, THAT HAS TO BE HELD OVER.
AND WE DID HAVE TO CHANGE THE INSURANCE PROVISION SLIGHTLY FROM THE DRAFT I SENT YOU LAST WEEK.
WE SPOKE TO OUR BROKER, SO WE UPDATED THAT.
TO ENSURE EVERYTHING IS PROPER WITH THE CORRECT AMOUNTS.
AND TOWN SHOULD BE CAPITALIZED.
THERE ARE TWO LOWERCASE T'S ON TOWN.
I DIDN'T SEE YOU, YOU SEE NOW I ALREADY MARKED THEM OUT.
AND I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THIS.
NO, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO TAKE THE BLAME.
AND YOU'RE GOOD WITH CD ONE? YES.
JUST DON'T MAKE NO MORE CHANGE.
LET'S FINALLY WE GET, FINALLY GET SOMETHING DONE,
UM, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT ABOUT IT? WHAT ABOUT IT?
YOU STILL HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING? DO WE HAVE WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING STILL.
SO, SO, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE THE HEARING ASK
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THEM WHY, SINCE WE AGREED TO THEM, OUR STAFF MEETING WITH THEM, THAT THEY HAVE THAT MEETING.APPARENTLY IT WENT WELL AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE MORE FOLLOW-UP MEETING AFTER THAT AS WELL.
AND THEY OFTEN GET THINGS IN LATE, BUT I GUESS THEY DID NOT RIGHT THIS TIME.
IT'S BEEN, SO WE HAVE 30, IT'S BEEN OVER 30 DAYS NOW, RIGHT? WELL THAT WAS IT LAST YEAR.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THEY CAME? MARCH 25TH.
WHAT, WHAT ARE WE ABOUT TO WIN?
IT WAS HELD OVER FROM, WE'RE PAST APRIL FOOLS DAY THIS YEAR.
YEAH, IT WAS HELD OVER FROM MARCH 25TH.
BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
BUT WHEN THEY CAME IN PERSON, WHEN WAS THEY IN PERSON? JANUARY.
OH, SO THEY, IT WAS, AND WE HAD THE MEETING ON MARCH 18TH, AND I HAD, WE HAD THAT MEETING.
WELL, WHEN DID WE, WHAT? OKAY.
I THINK GARRETT SAID HE IS GONNA MAKE A LITTLE PRESENTATION TO CLARIFY ABOUT WHAT BEFORE THE, OR YOU MEAN FOR FAIL? YEAH.
NOT, WE NEED TO HAVE, WE NEED TO HAVE ALL STAFF SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S OUTSTANDING.
BUT AT SOME POINT WE JUST HAVE TO PUT CLOSURE TO IT BECAUSE YEAH.
'CAUSE WE KEEP RUNNING THIS OUT.
IT'S NOTORIOUS FOR NOT GETTING THE DATA.
JUST HOLD ONTO IT TILL YOU'RE FINISH ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S JUST A PUBLIC HEARING ON A SITE PLAN APPLICATION.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
BUT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO PUT CLOSURE TO IT.
YOU KNOW, I HAD ASKED YOU THIS, UH, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, UH, IN TERMS OF RESOLUTIONS, HAVE ALL THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE, UM, APPROVED BY THE BOARD BEEN STAMPED? ARE THERE ANY OUTSTANDING, UH, RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN STAMPED? AND I'VE ALSO ASKED THAT, UM, UH, WE TURN OVER THE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TOWN CLERK AND THAT WE DIRECT THAT EVERY RESOLUTION BE STAMPED WITHIN FIVE DAYS AFTER THE BOARD'S APPROVED WITH, WITH NO CHANGES, UH, BEING MADE, UH, UNLESS THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES IT.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, BECAUSE I HAD HEARD THAT THERE'S STILL SOME OUTSTANDING RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN STAMPED.
IF THERE, IF THERE ARE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE NOT STAMP, THEY'RE NOT STAMPED.
WELL, WHY? IN OTHER WORDS, IN OTHER WORDS, THE, UH, THE ONE THAT YOU HAD ALTERED AFTER, I DON'T ALTERED ANYTHING ON THE, UH, THE AUSLEY QUILT.
THAT WAS NOT STAMP BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IN THE CONTRACT WAS, IT WAS WRONG AND IT HAD TO BE FIXED.
SO WE WERE GOING TO PUT THAT BACK ON AN AGENDA TO VOTE FOR IT.
AND INSTEAD YOU, MR. SUPERVISOR, WHO DOESN'T WANT A COMMA CHANGE AFTER WE VOTE, DIRECTED THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT.
I'M, I'M ASKING PAUL, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU.
YOU ASKED THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT SUBSTANTIVELY, CHANGE THE CONTRACT, STAMP IT, AND SEND IT OUT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DID FOR SOMEBODY WHO KEPT SAYING, OH, NOT A COMMA CHANGE.
AND YOU CHANGED THAT CONTRACT, DIDN'T YOU? NO, YOU DIDN'T.
I'M, I'M ASKING THE TOWN ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW TO GIVE ME A LIST OF, IF YOU GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.
I DON'T DEAL WITH THE STING OF RESOLUTION.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS OVER THE YEARS, I'VE COMPLAINED THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. SHEEHAN HAS, UM, TAKEN IT UPON HIMSELF NOT TO STAMP RESOLUTIONS AND SOMETIMES IT'S GONE ON FOR NINE, 10 MONTHS.
AND HE'S IN THE PAST CHANGED THE WORDING OF RESOLUTIONS AFTER, AFTER THE TOWN BOARDS APPROVED IT WITHOUT GETTING, UH, FURTHER, UM, APPROVAL BY THE TOWN BOARD, UM, WHICH I THINK IS AGAINST STATE LAW.
AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR PROBABLY 10 YEARS.
AND I'VE CONSTANTLY COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.
AND I BASICALLY WANNA KNOW RIGHT NOW, I WANNA PUT AN END TO THIS.
SO I NOTICED RECENTLY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU'VE MAKING CHANGES TO, UH, ON THE AGENDA SAYING, UH, WE'RE, UH, UNDOING A RESOLUTION, WHICH IS THE RIGHT WAY AND WE'RE AMENDING IT, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME, BUT I BASICALLY FEEL THAT, UM, NO INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER HAS THE POWER TO UNILATERALLY, UM, UN UH, HOLD OVER, UM, A RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD BASICALLY APPROVED WHEN WE VOTE TOMORROW.
UH, IT SHOULD BE IN FINAL FORM.
AND IF IT'S NOT READY FOR FINAL FORM, THEN WE SHOULD NOT BE ADOPTING IT.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA BE CHANGING THE WORDING OF A RESOLUTION, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RESOLUTION, YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO A, A CHANCE TO SPEAK OUT DURING WORK SESSIONS.
YOU COULD VOTE AGAINST THE RESOLUTION.
BUT THIS IS NOT A DICTATORSHIP.
AND YOU ARE NOT TELLING ME WHAT YOU'RE, UH, WITHHOLDING.
THE, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE'S RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN STAMPED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AND IT COULD BE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME, UH, PERSONAL ISSUES THAT YOU HAVEN'T
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DISCLOSED WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.SO I'M ASKING YOU RIGHT NOW, UM, UH, FOR A LIST OF EVERY RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD THAT HASN'T BEEN STAMPED.
AND I ALSO THINK THE TOWN CLERK SHOULD BE, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR STAMPING EVERY RESOLUTION THAT WE APPROVE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW.
AND IT SHOULD BE DONE WITHIN FIVE DAYS.
SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND YOU DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE MY PERMISSION, UH, TO WITHHOLD ANY RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD, UM, IS GONNA BE VOTING ON.
AND THAT'S EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
ALRIGHT? SO, AND I'M, SO, I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE POWER, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO, UH, UNILATERALLY, UM, UH, DECIDE BY YOURSELF THAT, UM, A RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD, BY A MAJORITY OF THE TOWN BOARD DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT.
SO ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU DID WITH THE ODDSLY QUILT? UH, NO.
YOU, UH, PAUL PAUL, PAUL, LET'S SHOW YOUR HYPOCRISY HERE.
NO, NO, I, I'M SAYING I NOBODY ON THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO WITHHOLD THE RESOLUTION.
I NOT YOU TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF.
YOU'RE VIOLATING NEW YORK STATE LAW.
I, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GO TO GENERAL OR THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
YOU KNOWING? 'CAUSE YOU WERE TOLD YOU CAN'T DO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, PAUL, AND YOU CHANGED THE CONTRACT SUBSTANTIVELY.
I I CAN'T CHANGE THE CONTRACT, BUT I CANNOT, CANNOT CHANGE THE I SAYING YOU DIDN'T.
LEMME SAY I CANNOT CHANGE, I DO NOT HAVE PAUL.
NO, LEMME SAY I DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE, THERE'S DOCUMENTATION OF THIS PAUL.
NO, I DO NOT HAVE, I BASICALLY THERE'S DOCUMENTATION.
LEMME SAY BEFORE YOU PUT YOURSELF DEEPER IN A HOLE, YOU CHANGED AFTER WE VOTED.
AND BECAUSE GOING, GOING FORWARD, DON'T INTERRUPT GOING FORWARD.
NO RESOLUTION BY ME OR ANYBODY ELSE CAN BE CHANGED.
UM, WITHOUT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN BOARD AND FROM NOW ON, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, YOU ARE NOT EMPOWERED TO STAMP THE RESOLUTIONS.
IT'S THE TOWN CLERK'S RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT'S A DIRECTIVE AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
WELL, I, I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER PARTICULARLY, AND YES, YOU DON'T HAVE THE POWER.
YOU'RE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
YOU'RE VIOLATING THE STATE LAWYER.
LEMME KNOW YOU'RE NOT A DICTATOR.
I JUST WANNA SPEAK AND I DON'T WANT TO BE INTERRUPTED.
THERE'S DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU CHANGED THE CONTRACT ON THE ODDSLY QUILT KNOWING THAT IT WAS A GOING TO BE PUT BACK UP ON THE AGENDA TO BE REVOLTED WITH A CORRECT CONTRACT.
AND YOU DID NOT WANT TO WAIT BECAUSE IT WAS ODDSLY AND YOU CHANGED THAT CONTRACT AND THEN HAD IT STAMPED.
AND OPPOSITE TO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING, THE HYPOCRISY, THE HYPOCRISY OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS I DON'T WANT THIS.
AND WHATEVER, WHEN THINGS AREN'T STAMPED, IT MAY BE BECAUSE WE EXPECTED A BACKGROUND DOCUMENT AND IT DIDN'T COME AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE BACKGROUND DOCUMENT BEFORE THAT ACTUALLY MOVES FORWARD.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? THE THING SHOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE BACKGROUND DOCUMENT.
IT COULD BE THAT THERE WAS A, SOME KIND OF A TECHNICAL ISSUE.
YOU'VE SEEN MORE AND MORE THINGS ON THE AGENDA, RESCIND SO-AND-SO AND PUT IN PLACE.
I THINK WE HAD FIVE OR SIX ALREADY THIS YEAR'S.
BUT FOR 10 YEARS, PAUL CONTROL YOURSELF DIDN'T DO THAT.
YOU CHANGED THE WORDING AFTER THE FACT.
PAUL, PAUL, TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF.
AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 10 YEARS AGO.
SHOW ME SOMETHING YEARS, 10 YEARS AGO.
GIVE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
WELL, YOU WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR, YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT NONSTOP.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT.
JUST ABOUT THE PROCESS, BECAUSE JUST MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A CLERK DOES, DOES STAMP RESOLUTIONS.
I DIDN'T, I DON'T REALLY EVEN KNOW WHAT OUR PROCESS IS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
RESOLUTIONS ARE OFFICIAL RECORDED IN THE TOWN BOARD MINUTES, WHICH I AM LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR.
THEY SUMMARIZE MOTION ACTIONS TAKEN IN INDIVIDUAL VOTES.
I'VE CHECKED BOTH TOWN CLERK MANUAL AND TOWN CODE.
NOTHING GIVES ME THE RESPONSIBILITY TO STAMP RESOLUTIONS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO STAMP IT THEN, BUT IS THERE ANY RESPONSIBILITY? WHAT ELSE IS THERE? STAY MINUTES.
ARE WE DONE? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I I I'D LIKE TO GET A LIST OF ALL THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE CHANGED, UM, WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE TOWN BOARD, UM, AND WITH, WITHOUT ANY, UH, NOTIFICATION DURING THE PAST 10 YEARS BECAUSE IT'S, IT WAS DONE CONSTANT
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DONE IT CONSTANTLY AND THERE'S, CHRIS DID DO THAT FOR YOU.YOU, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CHANGED THE WORDING WITHOUT ANYBODY'S CONSENT.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT BUSY WORK FOR THE I'M IT'S NOT BUSY WORK.
YOU, YOU VIOLATED THE STATE LAW BECAUSE NO, WE, WE HAVE A LEGISLATURE AND THE TOWN BOARD PASSED RESOLUTIONS.
PAUL, AND YOU DECIDED ON YOUR OWN.
THIS IS ANOTHER DISTRACTION FROM THE FORENSIC, THE RE RESOLUTION.
PAUL, THIS IS ANOTHER RIDICULOUS ATTEMPT.
NO OTHER, NO OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE UNITED STATES DOES THAT BESIDES YOU, ARE YOU DONE? THIS IS ANOTHER DISTRACTION AND YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE TO TRICK THE, THE, THE PUBLIC WHO IS LISTENING TO THIS TO NOT THINK ABOUT THE FORENSIC REPORT AND THE HUNDRED THOUSAND, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IN OUR COFFERS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER, YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AS BEST YOU CAN TO DISTRACT THE PEOPLE OF THIS TOWN.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN.
ARE ARE THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES WITH THE AGENDA OR ARE WE DONE WITH AGENDA? I'M JUST LOOKING.
DO YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET THE INVENTORY OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THAT WE GOT IT.
DOES IT SAY WHO'S CAR, WHO'S ASSOCIATED WITH EACH CAR AND WHAT'LL WHAT CARS ARE I, I'LL, I'LL, WHEN I, WHEN I PULL UP MY COMPUTER, I'LL PULL IT UP.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET TOGETHER A FULL INVENTORY OF EVERY VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE.
THIS IS ANOTHER COMMISSIONER BARBIDO.
IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW WHICH, WHICH VEHICLES WE ACTUALLY OWN.
UH, ARE THOSE THAT ARE GOING FOR AUCTION? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED INSURANCE ON THEM.
ARE THE PLATES BEEN RETURNED? ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE MONEY SAVING THINGS THAT HE'S DOING.
AND WHO IS THAT'S ASSIGNED TO WHATEVER VEHICLE THERE IS.
YOU KNOW, SUMMER'S COMING WHEN WE'RE DOING THE T-SHIRT, UH, BIDS.
I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ZINC ORTHOPHOSPHATE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE HAVE IT, UH, BACK ON FOR, FOR, UH, APPROVAL.
AGAIN, ZINC ORTHOPHOSPHATE, BY THE WAY, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
FILTRATION, BUT IT JUST KILLS ANY POOL OWNER
IT, IT, UH, IT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO GET THE PHOSPHATES OUTTA THE POOL BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH OF IT IN OUR WATER SUPPLY AND IT'S NOT WORTH SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY TO GET RID OF.
SHALL WE, UH, MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, FOR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE IN VARIOUS MATTERS.