Apr 14, 2026 Town Board - Work Session

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OH WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO START THE TOWN BOARD MEETING RIGHT NOW IS THE TOWN ROAD SECTION WORK SESSION. TODAY'S APRIL 14TH AND THERE'S

SOME PEOPLE OVER HERE 545 THEY WERE A LITTLE NERVOUS. >> WE SPOKE TO JOE.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET RESOLVED. THEY HAD GOTTEN A SUMMONS BECAUSE THERE WERE LEAVES AND BACK OF THEIR HOMES ON HARTFORD LANE THAT WEREN'T PICKED UP.

WE ALWAYS PICKED IT UP FOR LIKE 40, 50 YEARS AND THIS YEAR THEY GOT A SUMMONS AND THEY WERE SCARED BECAUSE IT SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BE ARRESTED IF YOU DON'T APPEAR IN COURT.

AND THEY THOUGHT THAT AND THEY DON'T HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WANT TO GIVE THEM BAIL.

SO SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF WE COULD MEET INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM GO TO TRIAL WHEN THEY ARE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AND HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG, WHY CAN'T WE JUST PUT THE CASE ON HOLD AND THEN SEE IF THE TOWN BOARD, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WE CAN ALL SIT DOWN AND SEE IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, RESOLVE THIS.

IT'S NOT A REALLY BIG THING. IT'S JUST IT PROBABLY IS FIVE MINUTES WORTH OF WORK AND YOU KNOW, THE TOWN'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 50 YEARS SO I'M JUST AS WE'VE BEEN CLEARING THE LEAVES FROM THE AREA THE CATCH BASINS I MEAN IT'S NO IT'S IN A WOODED AREA BUT YOU COULD YOU CAN COME UP AND I COULD SAY THAT I DID SPEAK TO THE SUPERVISOR ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE AGREED TO REACH OUT TO OUR PROSECUTOR DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY TAGLIO TO GO OVER THIS MATTER A LITTLE FURTHER AND REACH OUT TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AS WELL.

I'M NOT GUARANTEEING THAT A COURT APPEARANCE IS NOT MANDATED BUT IT MAY BE ADJOURNED FOR GOOD FAITH PURPOSES OF FIXING THE ISSUE AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO

BE WORRIED ABOUT AN ARREST WARRANT. >> OUR POLICE HAVE A LOT TO DO.

THAT IS RIGHT. YES. YEAH.

YEAH. THAT WAS A BIT OF AN EXAGGERATION JUST FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW. THE SUPERVISOR LIKES TO MAKE JOKES LIKE THAT BUT HE SAID YOU COULD BE ARRESTED. SO THE THING IS LIKE WHEN YOU CALLED ME EARLIER TODAY YOU WERE IN A STATE OF PANIC BECAUSE THE ISSUE NO, BUT NO BUT IT SAYS YOUR FAILURE TO APPEAR MAY RESULT IN A WARRANT FOR YOUR ARREST WHICH IS STANDARD LANGUAGE ON SUMMONS AND COMPLAINT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU MADE IT SEEM LIKE BECAUSE HE HAD LEAVES HE'S GOING TO GET ARRESTED. RIGHT.

IT'S IF YOU DON'T FAIL IF YOU DON'T RESPOND TO A SUBPOENA. >> YEAH, BUT THAT'S SOME

SUMMONS. >> SO MY CONCERN IS I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE 45 YEARS.

THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS ALWAYS TAKEN CARE OF. THIS IS MY IN MY LITTLE SHALLOW KNOWLEDGE YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE THE LAWS AND SAY OH, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT GOING DO THAT ANYMORE . YOU'RE SAYING YOU WE'RE GOING TO FINE YOU IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW UP? I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY DID IT LAST YEAR. WE'VE DONE IT EVERY YEAR FOR IT BUT I'M ASKING HOW IT WAS DONE.

IT WAS DONE EVERYTHING BUT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 45 YEARS. RIGHT.

SO DID YOU LAST LAST YEAR THEY SAID THAT THEY SENT ME ONE OF THESE ALSO AND A COUPLE OF MY NEIGHBORS. OKAY. AND I CAME DOWN I SPOKE WITH PAUL ABOUT IT. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? THIS IS NOT FAIR.

I DON'T KNOW. AND WE SAID WE WOULD TRY TO LOOK AT IT TO TRY TO GET THROUGH IT AND THIS YEAR AS SOON AS THE SEASON THE SEASON OPENER I GOT A CERTIFIED LETTER

STATING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND ARREST ME IF I DON'T. >> BUT NOW YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR IT'S DIFFERENT IF THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WHICH IS WHAT YOU MADE IT SEEM LIKE YOU GOT THIS BUT YOU HAD IT LAST YEAR CAME AND YOU STILL HAVE AND YOU DIDN'T RESPOND.

THIS CAME THIS CAME LAST YEAR. THIS CAME UP LAST YEAR. I HAVE LETTERS TO SHOW THAT I SENT TO PAUL AND EVERYONE THAT WOULD LISTEN ABOUT THIS COMPLAINING ABOUT LAST YEAR AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK THROUGH AND RESOLVE THEM IT WENT DID CRICKETS NOTHING.

SO WHO PICKED UP? >> WE DID DO WE DID SO RIGHT. >> WE NEED TO ASK YOU THIS IS NOT GOOD BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO WE HAVE OUR DUE DILIGENCE THE RESEARCH WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING SO WE CAN GIVE YOU I GIVE YOU THE MOST NEED TO FIND OUT WHEN THE LAW CHANGED YOU. I DON'T I DON'T THINK YOU CAN JUST CHANGE THE LAW AND SAY OH

,WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT ANYMORE. >> WE'RE TELLING YOU NOW WE DON'T KNOW BUT YOU KNOW WE DON'T THAT IS THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING WE WOULD NEED TO SOME

TIME TO LOOK INTO SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT'S IT. >> YEAH.

THIS IS THE FIRST WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T SHARED WITH WELL YES WE DIDN'T

SHARE THAT. >> NO FINISH TALKING PLEASE BECAUSE IT WASN'T SHARED WITH

US. >> SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING AND WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN WE CAN DO TO RESOLVE THIS SITUATION.

>> BUT LET US LOOK AT THE DETAILS FIRST, PLEASE. YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO WE HAVE THE TOWN ATTORNEY HAS YOUR INFORMATION. WE WORK WITH STAFF AND THEN

WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. >> BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU KNOW IN RECENT MONTHS WE'VE BEEN SAYING OH, NOW WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR YOU WHEN WE'VE DONE IT FOR

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TOWN BE THERE. >> WHY DON'T WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ONCE WE LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHAT THE DETAILS ARE INSTEAD OF JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.

IT WILL BE ADJOURNED AND YOU WON'T BE ARRESTED, I PROMISE YOU IN GOOD HANDS.

>> YEAH. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD ATTORNEY. YOU HAVE A COURT DATE SHOW UP? YES. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW ACTUALLY THE GOAL THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE

GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE A COURT DATE WHEN IT'S WEDNESDAY. >> I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GO TO COURT. THANK YOU.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. IT'S AN OBLIGATION LEGAL. >> YEAH, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM AT YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM IN JEOPARDY. WE COULD ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO ASK FOR AN ADJOURNMENT BUT PLEASE CAN YOU JUST ALLOW US TO DO WHAT YOU DO INTO TOWN ON AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION . I'M SORRY BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT'S AMAZING TO ME THIS IS AN AMBUSH BECAUSE WE HAD NO IDEA

WHAT ANY OF RISK IF YOU COULD I MEAN WE WOULDN'T DO IT. >> I MAKE A COMMENT THE SUGGESTION RATHER THAN MAKE I'M ASKING JOE RATHER THAN MAKE THEM STRESSED OUT FOR THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. NO, I'M SAYING BECAUSE THEY ARE STRICT BECAUSE ANY TIME YOU GO TO COURT SHE WASN'T KNOW EVERYBODY WHEN WHEN YOU GET A LETTER SAYING YOU HAVE TO GO TO COURT EVERYBODY GETS SOME SOMEWHAT STRESS PICKED UP WE NEED TO JUST DO WHAT SO YOU'RE LEAVING THE LEAVES THERE? I'VE GOT I HAVE NOTHING BUT IT'S GREAT.

IT'S GREAT WE TALKED ABOUT GRASS IS AN OVERGROWN GRASS. HAVE YOU SEEN HAVE YOU SEEN THE PICTURES? I HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING. WE HAVE YES, I AM.

I PROMISE EVERYONE I COULD HANDLE IT AND IT REALLY DOESN'T NEED TO BE A WORK SESSION TOPIC

. >> IT'S JUST THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

WE ARE BEING AMBUSHED HERE. OBVIOUSLY THE SUPERVISOR E-MAILED EVERYBODY BEFORE BUT THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE NEED THE DOCUMENTATION. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

WE THOUGHT HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. DID THE LAW CHANGE REGARDING GRASS? IT COULD BE CONSIDERED AN UNKEPT CONDITION.

I HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE VIOLATION SAYS. YEAH, I SEE THAT IT SAYS FOR A

26 THAT DOESN'T HELP ME MUCH. >> OKAY. RIGHT.

WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. REALLY WE JUST THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT, NOT JUST

PAUL'S OPINION. >> OKAY. I DIDN'T HANDLE THAT IN THE WAY MY CAR WE'RE WE'RE IN A POLITICAL IT'S YEAH UNFORTUNATELY YEAH WE'RE VERY

SORRY FOR THIS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SEE YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD A GOOD THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING. OKAY. WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? THE ALTERNATE ENERGY LOCATION UNDER THE MOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO US AGAIN?

>> THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD THING. >> YEAH.

HOW ARE YOU, HECTOR?. CAFE. BUT JUST PUT ON THE MICROPHONE FOR US. JUST HIT THAT BUTTON. THERE YOU GO.

AND THEN WOULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME? YOU KNOW WE KNOW IT AFFECT ON

THE LAW SCHOOL. >> I'M THE SECURITY MANAGER FOR SANTA LIKE I'M HERE TO WHICH IS LOCATED IS LOCATED ON THE RIGHT ADDRESS I'M SORRY AND GOT 12 SITES IN THE SECOND IT'S GOING TO BE 335 OLD TIME ROAD WILL UP OFF THE BLOCK BASICALLY WE DID IT BEFORE BUT NOW DEAL THAT'S ON THE CORNER ON THE CORNER CENTER RIGHT RIGHT IS A 55 AND OLD CARE FOR FOUR SENIORS AND WE'VE BEEN THERE OVER 20 YEARS WE OWN ABOUT 12 SITES AROUND THEM SECURITY MANAGEMENT OF ASPECT OF IT AND EVERY EVERY YEAR NOW DELOITTE IS ASKING FOR MOU IN CASE OF EMERGENCY WE COULD WALK OVER THE PARTICIPANTS SHELTER IN THE LOBBY AND WE BROUGHT OUR TRANSPORTATION TO PICK THEM UP. THAT'S IT. IT TAKES APPROXIMATELY 15 MINUTES FOR TO REROUTE TRANSPORTATION TO PICK UP THE SENIORS JUST IN CASE THIS A

BLOCK OUT THIS A FIRE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> SO WE WANT TO KEEP THEM OUTSIDE LIKE A HURRICANE. WE WE DID THIS FOR YEARS. WE USED TO HAVE YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONCE ONCE A YEAR IT WAS DONE OR ONCE EVERY FEW YEARS. YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY INFREQUENTLY AND HOW DO WE DISTINGUISH THIS IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING ? I'M ASKING THE TOWN ATTORNEY IF YOU WANT TO WAIT AND THAT OPINION LATER. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE CONCERN IS WE'RE DOING SOMETHING FOR A VERY PRIVATE ENTITY USING TOWN FACILITIES. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD CAUSE WITH YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT TO ACCOMMODATE YOU BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHEN WE DO SOMETHING BECAUSE WHAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES ALONG AND SAYS WE WILL? I'D LIKE TO DO THAT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE BECOME THE SHELTER DURING DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING A GOVERNMENT.

WELL THAT'S MY NAME IS WRONG IF YOU'RE WRONG, LET ME JUST SAY BECAUSE WELL, I'M THE TOWN SUPERVISOR. I COULD YOU DON'T YOU DON'T INTERRUPT ME PLEASE.

SO BASICALLY WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS.

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SO WE'VE HAD THIS YEAH, A FEW TIMES. WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEMS AND ALSO IF THERE'S LIKE A HURRICANE OR AND AND NATURAL DISASTER THEN ANY ONE WHO WANTS TO USE A TOWN HALL SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. SO MOHAWK IF THE CAMP WANTS TO USE IT I'D SAY LET THEM USE IT IF THERE'S ANOTHER FACILITY ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN AND THEN IT CLOSE BY LET THEM USE IT. IT'S ONLY BASICALLY YOU AND MOHAWK WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONLY TWO PLACES I WOULD WOULD WOULD WANT TO USE IT BECAUSE EVERY OTHER PLACE WOULDN'T THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WALK HERE EXACTLY THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS IS A WEIRD SETUP OUR LONGEVITY OF OUR CLINICS AND A FACILITY IN THE CITY SO WE'VE GOT A SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER ACROSS THE STREET NOW THIS IS THE CLOSEST FACILITY AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR PARTICIPANTS ARE FROM GREEN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WHAT IS THE CONTRACT LOOK LIKE WITH THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET IN NEW YORK CITY? EXCUSE ME? HOW WHAT IS THE CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE WITH THEM? OH, BASICALLY THIS IS THE MOU. BASICALLY WE USE THE FACILITY AS AN EMERGENCY. WE RUN THE FACILITY THE PARTICIPANTS WE WANT TO USE WE WILL USE THIS FACILITY ONLY WHERE PARTICIPANTS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S NOT FOR STAFF BASICALLY THEY THERE FROM TEN IN THE MORNING TO MAYBE 1 OR 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON MONDAY TO FRIDAY. THAT'S ALL THE RESIDENTS PAY TO GO.

IT'S A NONPROFIT. IT'S A NONPROFIT. DO THE RESIDENTS PAY TO USE YOUR FACILITY? IN OTHER WORDS, THE SENIORS THAT YOU'RE ACCOMMODATING, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY MONTHLY OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, THAT'S THAT'S ON THE THE DEPARTMENT OF YEAH I DON'T I DON'T CONTROL ASPECT OF IT BUT I KNOW THE NONPROFIT ENTITY AND WHATEVER AND THE FUNDING COMES FROM FUNDING FROM THE CITY THEY STAY IN THE FEDERAL I'M JUST SAYING HOW DO WE MAKE THIS UNIQUE RIGHT OH I DON'T DON'T THAT ASPECT OF THE OF THAT THAT'S HOW WE ANSWER CERTAIN QUESTIONS ON ON THE FINANCIAL ASPECT I'M JUST I'M IN CHARGE OF THE EMERGENCY PLANNING ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT THAT YOU MIGHT INDICATE TO IS THAT HAVING BEEN THERE A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT NECESSARILY DISABLED BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE ELDERLY AND THAT FOR THEM TO TRANSIT ANY FURTHER MIGHT BE DIFFICULT.

SO THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE FROM CAMPERS SAY OH UNDERSTOOD UNDERSTOOD I'M YEAH AND AGAIN WE WELL I'M JUST TRYING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING THE OPERATION IS BASICALLY SO INSTEAD OF TRANSPORTATION GOING TO THE LOCATIONS THAT A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT COMES IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK I THINK IT'S A GOOD GREAT CAUSE AND I THINK IT'S DOABLE.

>> IT DOESN'T REALLY DOES AMENDMENT NUMBER YEAH AND SO SO LEGAL.

THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT IT AND THEY ARE SUGGESTING SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE MOU THAT WOULD BE SITE SPECIFIC HERE FOR US AND NOT YOU KNOW NOT YOUR BOILERPLATE RIGHT.

SO JOE, WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT THAT CAN BE COMPLETED MAYBE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

OKAY. YOU NEED INSURANCE, RIGHT? >> WE HAVE ALL THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE DIDN'T SAY THAT ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER THAT NO. SO WE WE I SPOKE TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE SPOKE TO ME. WHATEVER WE MEET, WE'LL WE'LL GET IT.

WE WILL PROVIDE FOR SO WILL WILL THE LAW DEPARTMENT WILL TURN IT AROUND TWO WEEKS.

OKAY. AND YOU KNOW IN WE CARE ABOUT IT SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT UP OBJECTIONS TO BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS AS COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE THE UNIQUE SITUATION AS AS ATTORNEY DANKO

SAID THAT WE ARE HAVE EVERYTHING ALL LEGAL. >> OKAY.

OKAY. ANYTHING YOU GUYS NEED, ANY QUESTIONS YOU NEED TO US I FEEL GREAT. TERRIFIC. WE KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOU KNOW . YEAH, I DO. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

BY THE WAY. YOU CAN I WILL HAVE A GOING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLICK

HERE. >> OKAY. NEXT FACEBOOK PAGE SO IT APPEARS BASED ON COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WE HAVE A TOWN FACEBOOK PAGE WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BUT IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE A TOWN FACEBOOK PAGE AND I LIKE TO KNOW WHO IF IT IS AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO CALL IT THE TOWN FACEBOOK PAGE BECAUSE IT HAS THE TOWN HALL AS THE CEO THAT SAYS TOWN OF GREENBURG. AND SO THE QUESTION IS WHO GETS TO POST TO THAT FACEBOOK PAGE? WELL, BASICALLY A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT FACEBOOK AND I SAID BASICALLY WE HAVE A FACEBOOK YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE SO I SET IT UP ON

MY OWN. >> SO YOU HAVE YOU DON'T ONLY WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE

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YOU KNOW IT'S BASICALLY SOMETHING THAT I JUST DID YOU KNOW MAYBE THE TOWN WOULD WANT OR MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE SINCE I WAS JUST DOING IT SORT OF MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY EVEN YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I JUST POST THINGS ON IT USUALLY THE SAME TYPES THAT I USUALLY POST WHAT I POST ON THE TOWN WEBSITE. BUT YOU KNOW, THE TOWN COULD

ALWAYS CREATE ANOTHER A MORE OFFICIAL FIT. >> THIS WAS NOT AN OFFICIAL FACEBOOK PAGE. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I DID ON MY OWN BUT IT HAS A SEE A LOGO SO YOU KNOW I GUESS IT GIVES IT GIVES THE APPEARANCE THAT IT'S THE OFFICIAL TOWN PAGE THAT'S WHY JUST WHY WE'RE TRYING TO CLARITY AND SEE WHO OWNS THAT PAGE YOU'RE YOU KNOW I BASICALLY YEAH I COULD ALWAYS I FORGOT EVEN WHAT THE PASSWORD IS BECAUSE I BASICALLY JUST

POST STUFF ON IT. >> SO THE THING IS I COULD JUST POST THE RECENTLY I JUST THOUGHT YOU KNOW I POST THINGS ON IT LIKE YOU KNOW THE I THINK I WAS LOOKING AT IT UH YESTERDAY YOU KNOW WE'LL POST THINGS ABOUT SNOW ANGELS WILL POST THINGS ABOUT THE ARTIST MARKET THE REPAIR CAFE YOU KNOW ANYTHING THAT IS YOU KNOW THIS HAS BEEN USED DIFFERENTLY.

>> I MEAN THE POST THAT I SAW WAS THE POST THAT YOU PUT REGARDING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I POST LIKE EVERYTHING THAT I DO ON THE WEBSITE I TRY DOING THAT BUT SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S NOT A PERSONAL POST AS A PERSONAL ONE THAT YOU SEEM TO POST THE SAME THING I POST EVERYTHING. I'D DO IT ON A FEW DIFFERENT YOU KNOW SITES BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANYBODY ELSE POSTING WHATEVER THEY WANT. YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST I NEED SOMEONE WELL WE NEED TO HAVE WELL YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS WE SHOULD TURN IT UP IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU LIKE THE GREENBERG FACEBOOK PAGE WHICH I CREATED AND YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF PROUD THAT I TOOK THE INITIATIVE BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER DONE SO. AND YOU KNOW, I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN AND YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD DO MORE WITH INSTAGRAM AND ALL SOCIAL MEDIA.

MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK MISS DEPARTMENT TO TO RUN IT AND THIS WAY THIS WAY IT WOULD BE MORE OFFICIAL AND IF YOU KNOW IF OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS OR AGENCY YOU KNOW IT COULD BE USED. YEAH NO I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM TURNING IT OVER TO ANY ANYONE IN THE TOWN STAFF. RIGHT. YOU KNOW I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD AND YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES OF THE TOWN IS THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO MENTION. ONE IS, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE HIRED AN ATTORNEY TO DO A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY AND NO, I'M SAYING IT'S TRUE BUT WE

HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH IT. >> I PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. SO YEAH, WE DID GO OVER IT A FEW WEEKS AGO I RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THE TOWN BUT I'M SAYING I REALLY FEEL THAT YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA WE SHOULD HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY BECAUSE WE DID HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND IT WAS WAIT, WHAT DID YOU JUST HEAR WHAT THE ATTORNEY SENT US WHERE BUT HE WE DISCUSSED IT. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. WE'VE GONE OVER IT AND TWEAKING

IT. >> I'M SORRY AND WE'VE TWEETED AND HE'S MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND HE WANTS TO PUT AND HE DID SEND THAT TO US BY EMAIL. SO YOU KNOW AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT SOME OF THE TWEAKS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THE LAST DISCUSSION.

I'M JUST CURIOUS YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO PUT THIS GREENBERG FIRST.

>> YEAH, THERE WERE NO SUBSTANTIAL TWEAKS IN THE SUBSTANCE SINCE THE LAST MEETING. I HEARD A LOT ABOUT FORMATTING AND FIXING REDUNDANCIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUT THE ONE THAT YOU WERE SENT I THINK IT WAS ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO AT

THE TIME THERE WERE NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES SINCE THEN. >> OKAY.

AND YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT I COULD I SPEAK TO THEM. I ASKED THEM TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD WANT TO TAKE OVER THE FACEBOOK PAGE ADMINISTRATION.

>> TAKE A LOOK. LET'S LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS HOW WE MANAGE SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. OKAY.

OKAY. IT'S ACTUALLY I THOUGHT I DIDN'T REALIZE IT'S ACTUALLY FACEBOOK.COM FORWARD SLASH GREENBERG AND WHY SO IS CLEARLY NOT A PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

YOU KNOW I, I CREATED IN FACT I THINK WHEN WE CREATED I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF MY STUDENTS INTERNSHIP INITIATIVES I THINK THERE WAS A STUDENT INTERN YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO I FORGOT HOW MANY YEARS AGO WE STARTED AND THAT WAS THEIR PROJECT.

THAT'S FINE. IT'S JUST IT SHOULD BE FROM THE ENTIRE TOWN AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A LOCAL BUSINESS. ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY IT'S LISTED

OFFICIALLY AS A LOCAL BUSINESS. >> SO LOCAL NO. YEP.

>> I WAS ALSO HAS A LOCAL BUSINESS POOL AND YOU KNOW AGAIN BE CHANGED.

WE COULD BE CHANGED. YES, IT CAN BECAUSE THERE ARE POLITICAL PAGES, THERE ARE PERSONAL PAGES AND THERE ARE BUSINESS PAGES ABOUT GOVERNMENT PAGES.

YEAH THAT I DO NOT KNOW. >> SO BEFORE WE BEFORE WE DO THAT, CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S CONSISTENT LIKE WHAT THE WHITE PLAINS CITY OF WHITE PLAINS HAS CITY OF MALVERN IN ALL THAT OTHER MISSPELLINGS AND SEE IF THEY'RE LISTED AS A BUSINESS OR HOW THEY'RE

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CATEGORIZED. >> COULD YOU DO YOUR THOROUGH RESEARCH? AS ALWAYS, LOOK AT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND SEE WHAT IT IS.

MAYBE IT IS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF IT FALLS UNDER THAT.

IT'S NOT AS THOUGH NO GREAT CITY OF WHITE PLAINS MAYOR JUSTIN BRASH GOVERNMENT

ORGANIZATION. >> OKAY. SO WE NEED TO WIN IS WE NEED THAT THERE'S A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION CATEGORY. IT'S REALLY SMART REALLY TO IMAGINE THAT OH I DON'T USE IT. SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE UPDATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT THINK THE FOUR OVER COST OF HEALTH YOU JOE MENTIONED SPOKE TO ME AND SAID I GUESS I SPOKE TO PETER AND I EMAILED PETER AND I SAID YOU COULD HAVE ANY INFORMATION YOU WANT FROM THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST BUT YOU KNOW HE DIDN'T GET BACK TO ME ON THAT SO I'LL SPEAK TO HIM, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW. I THOUGHT WHEN I USUALLY WHEN I GET THESE REQUESTS I JUST SAY

YOU CAN SEARCH MY RECORDS AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE LAST I DO. >> YEAH BUT BUT I THINK THEN PETER DO ALL THE GREENBERG EMAILS PETER DID SUPPLY TO GREENBERG EMAILS WHICH WE THEN WENT THROUGH WHICH I HAD EXPLAINED ON A PREVIOUS SESSION .

SO IT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL WORK ON YOUR PART IF YOU COULD YOU COULD GET TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS

WAS DUE TWO WEEKS AGO. >> OKAY SO THERE'S ALSO THE GREENBERG ONE THE GREENBERG YOU KNOW THIS IS PERSONAL EMAIL AND OTHER ITEMS BUT THE GREENBERG EMAIL THOSE WERE DONE I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO NOW TOMORROW'S WERE SENT WITHIN THE THE FOIL PERIOD IT WAS TECHNICALLY ONE DAY LATE ONE DAY LATE AND NOW WE'RE TWO WEEKS LATE FOR THE REST OF IT.

>> YES. HAVE WE BEEN LATE FOR ANY OTHER FOIL REQUESTS IN THE HISTORY OF SO THIS IS A THIS IS AN APPEAL. NO I'M JUST ASKING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY OTHER I CAN THINK OF ONE OTHER THAT WE WERE LATE AND WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO WITHDRAW IT BECAUSE WE HAD FORGOT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ISSUE WITH THAT BUT WE DID SUPPLY ALL THE DOCUMENTATION

WITHIN A WEEK OF THE DUE DATE ON THAT ONE. >> OKAY.

SO THE ONLY OTHER ONE I CAN THINK OF SO HOW LONG IS THIS ONE NOW THIS WAS DUE TWO WEEKS

AGO TODAY. >> OKAY. I JUST HAD ONE OTHER ITEM I JUST YEAH, BUT I JUST WANT TO THE REASON WHY IT'S A CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER TOWN ATTORNEY I HAVE SEVERAL BEFORE YOU ONE A $37,000 AWARD BY THE COURT AND THAT WAS

BECAUSE THE BOARD DID NOT RENDER A DECISION ON AN APPEAL. >> RIGHT.

SO THAT ATTORNEY THEN WENT INTO PRIVATE PRACTICE AND SUED THE TOWN.

YES. HE DIDN'T WIN ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN.

HE DIDN'T WIN ON BEHALF OF THE OH NO, THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.

IT BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A I WILL REACH OUT TO HIM. OKAY, GREAT. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS ON FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS I WAS ASKING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE US WITH WEEKLY REPORTS OF THE INSPECTIONS THAT THEY'VE DONE. OH, LIZ GARRITY DID PROVIDE ME WITH THE REPORT FOR YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK. BUT SHE ALSO INDICATED THAT SHE WASN'T GOING TO DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO BASICALLY CONFER WITH THE TOWN BOARD.

I FEEL AS A TOWN SUPERVISOR AND THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER I HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUEST AND OBTAIN THE RECORDS THAT I FEEL I NEED FOR MY JOB. SO I'M REQUESTING THIS IF I'M YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, I EMAILED HER. I SAID YOU KNOW WHAT IF GIVING IT TO ME EVERY WEEK IS TOO YOU KNOW TOO MUCH I'M WILLING TO GIVE HER A LITTLE BIT MORE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW I WANT THE INFORMATION BUT I SAID IF WE HAVE IT EVERY TWO WEEKS OR EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO I WANT THE INSPECTIONS. I WANT TO KNOW WHO DID THE INSPECTIONS WHEN THE INSPECTIONS WERE DONE, HOW LONG IT TOOK BEFORE AN INSPECTION WAS REQUESTED AND INSPECTION ACTUALLY WAS YOU KNOW, WAS YOU KNOW, WAS COMPLETED AND THE ADDRESSES OF WHERE THE INSPECTIONS WERE DONE. AND THE REASON I WANTED IS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I BELIEVE AS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ONE PERSON CAN'T DO TWO JOBS AND AND IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT YOU HAVE THREE VACANCIES.

YOU HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO IS ALSO COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

YOU HAVE A DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO WANTS TO BE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AND I THINK IT'S HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO DO ONE AND YOU'RE LIKE A BROKEN RECORD IT SOUNDS LIKE

EVERY WEEK. >> SO LET ME JUST CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION JUST JUST REALLY QUICKLY? I KNOW YOU'RE VERY I JUST DON'T KNOW.

>> HE SAID HE'S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. JUST JUST ANSWER ME THIS.

HAVE YOU DONE IT HAVE YOU DONE A SITE VISIT? HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE YOU SAT WITH THEM? HAVE YOU GONE AROUND AND SEEN EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE DONE SO YOU CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE BECAUSE YOU SET THIS YOU CONTINUOUSLY SAY THIS AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DOING THAT. IT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE THE HARASSMENT HORRIBLE IS NOT SO BUT IT IS AND WE CAN SHOW IT'S NOT DUE DILIGENCE THE WAY YOU'RE AT THIS HARASSMENT BUT MY MY QUESTION IS HAVE YOU GOT IN A TRUCK SO I WANT TO SPEND

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CAN'T DO THE JOB HAVE YOU DONE THAT BECAUSE I'VE DONE THAT. >> SO HAVE YOU DONE THAT?

>> NO. LET ME LET ME SAY HAVE YOU DONE THAT? YES, I DON'T WELL, THE ISSUE IS THAT WHEN THEY DO THE INSPECTION NO, LET ME SAY

SOMETHING. >> WELL, I JUST SERIOUSLY BOY, YOU JUST WHY DO YOU ALWAYS DEFLECT? I JUST ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION. HAVE YOU CAN YOU SEE THE YES OR NO QUESTION IF YOU HAVE AN OKAY CAN I HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT YOU DO THAT MAYBE WITH THIS STAFF BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T DONE WITH THIS I KNOW YOU HAVE NOT DONE WITH THIS COMMISSIONER OR THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER MAYBE YOU DO WITH THE CURRENT COMMISSIONER SO YOU CAN SEE BECAUSE TALK TECHNOLOGIES AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED FOR 34 YEARS.

SO I JUST THINK THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY GO OUT AND REALLY SEE AND WITNESS EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING DONE AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE THESE ASSESSMENTS OR JUDGMENTS OF THAT.

THEY CAN'T DO THE WORK BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT. >> YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE.

NO. THE REASON WHY I THINK YOU'RE WRONG IS I AM SURE THAT WHEN THEY WHEN WE GIVE THEM A PROBLEM AND THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

SO I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE QUALITY OF THE INSPECTIONS I HAVE THE ISSUE WITH YOU KNOW, ALL THE INSPECTIONS BEING DONE. IF FOR EXAMPLE I THOUGHT FRANK MORVILLO AND LIZ DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE WITH THE BREAK AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD, I THOUGHT THEY YOU KNOW THEY BUT THEY WERE THERE THURSDAY THEY WERE THERE FRIDAY THEY WERE THERE SATURDAY THEY WERE THERE SUNDAY THEY SPENT HOURS AND HOURS THERE. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS THERE ALSO I SHOWED UP FOR TEN MINUTES ON YOUR BICYCLE. NO, I'M NOT I'M SORRY.

NO, BUT LET ME SAY THEY DID A GREAT THEY DID A VERY GOOD YOU KNOW THEY DID IT THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB. THEY DID A GOOD JOB SPENDING THE TIME THERE AND SAW AND

RESOLVING THE PROBLEM. >> SO THEN I WAS YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST SAY WITH THEM THE ISSUE IS WHEN THEY'RE THERE THEY CAN'T BE DOING THE WORK ON THE BUILDING BEFORE.

>> THAT'S BUT THAT'S MY POINT BUT THAT'S MY POINT. THAT'S MY POINT.

SO HERE'S MY POINT AGAIN. WE HAD A BIG ISSUE AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE, RIGHT? THEY WERE THERE. NOW YOU HAVE THE LIST OF INSPECTIONS IF YOU WERE THERE ALL DAY WITH THEM, I CAN SEE YOU CAN SAY LET'S SEE INSPECTIONS NOW, LET'S GO AND LET'S DO THE INSPECTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND NOW WE CAN GO IN AND BE OVERSIGHT AT THE AT THE AT THE ISSUE. BUT YOU DIDN'T DO THAT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING AND YOU KEEP TELLING THAT YOU KEEP TELLING EVERYONE EVERYONE YOU WRITE ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE. YOU WRITE ON YOUR YOUR EMAILS THE GB LIST SAYING THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN DO THE JOB BUT YOU HAVE NOT PROVEN WHY YOU HAVE NOT GONE OUT AND SAT AND ROLLED AROUND THE TOWN AND DO WHAT THEY DO. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YOU HAVEN'T WITNESSED SO HOW DO YOU CAN YOU MAKE A JUDGMENTS THAT'S JUST LIKE SAYING I CAN'T DUST JUST LIKE JOE DOES IS NOT A GREAT ATTORNEY. HOW WOULD I KNOW I'M NOT AN

ATTORNEY. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR.

SO WHEN YOU TELL RESIDENTS I CAN'T REALLY ACTUALLY TELL YOU IF THEY CAN DO THE JOB BECAUSE I HAVE NOT WITNESSED WHAT THEY DO. I JUST BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN'T

DO THE JOB. >> BUT THAT'S BUT THAT'S BASED ON NOTHING THAT'S BASED ON A LOT BECAUSE BASICALLY WE HAVE FEWER INSPECTORS THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN WESTCHESTER.

>> BUT AGAIN THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT WHAT THEY ALREADY PROVEN TO YOU.

THEY SENT YOU THE NUMBERS WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND YOU HAVE NOT COMPLAINED? NO, YOU HAVE NOT COMPLAINED.

YOU HAVE NOT GONE TO THE WORLD TO THE MASSES. YOU YOU SAY OH, THEY DO GREAT WORK AND THEN BEHIND THE SCENES YOU WANT TO FIRE THEM. I KNOW I DON'T I CAN'T FATHOM THAT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.

>> BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET YOU TO DO.

PAUL AND I PLEASE. >> I'M ASKING WE HAVE WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ALL OF AN AUDIENCE I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AND TO SEE SORRY TO UNDERSTAND AND TO SEE THAT YOUR YOUR YOUR COMMENTS ARE BASELESS BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO SUPPORT IT AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING IF YOU CAN'T SAY OH THEY DO GREAT WORK BUT THEN THEY CAN'T DO THE WORK BUT YOU WITNESS THE GO SEE WHAT THEY DO. THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE GET IN THE CARS WE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, WE JUMP IN, WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON SO WE CAN TALK TO I'LL TALK TO THE REST AND SAY THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHEN DECISIONS LIKE THIS COME UP WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY YES THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE BUT THAT'S BASED ON EVIDENCE THAT'S BASELESS US DOING THE JOB WITH THEM. AND YOU HAVE SAID YOURSELF MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES THAT YOU FEEL YOU FEEL YOU FEEL THIS IS WRONG.

YOU FEEL THIS IS A PROBLEM. AND SO WHAT WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON IS SAYING IS OKAY, NOW SUPPORT YOUR FEELINGS IF IF YOU FIND THAT THIS IS TRUE RATHER THAN JUST SAYING THE SKY IS FALLING, ANY PADDING YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE DATA SO THAT YOU CAN GIVE IT TO US AND WE'LL LISTEN TO YOU. BUT YOU'RE NOT YOU JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS AND WE ALL HAVE FEELINGS BUT WE'VE DONE THE WORK. WE'VE GONE OUT THERE.

WE WERE AT HIGH VIEW AT MIDNIGHT WHEN THERE WAS A POWER OUTAGE.

WE WERE I WAS THERE AT THE AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE SITE TWICE NOT NEARLY AS MUCH TIME AS

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DISCUSSION WITH THEM. >> YOU YOU HAVE QUESTIONED THEIR INTEGRITY.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK EXCEPT FINAL HOURS FOR THIS TOWN THAT THEY LOVE AND THEY'VE WORKED FOR FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GET THE TOWN IN TROUBLE AND BY THE WAY BY EXTENSION WILL GET THEM IN TROUBLE. SO WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT IT WITH FACT AS COUNCILWOMAN JEANNE, YOUR SUPPOSITIONS WITH FACT AS COUNCILWOMAN GINA HAS ASKED?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A FEW THINGS I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE HUMANLY HUMANLY

IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO DO BOTH JOBS. >> A BUILDING INSPECTOR AND COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SO MANY CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD VEHICLES BREAK DOWN EVERY DAY.

WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WHEN IT'S SNOW. THERE WAS A TRUCK THAT FELL

OVER. >> WE HAD TRUCKS THAT HAVE GOT BUT KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT YOU GOT MAD THAT I CALLED HIM TO SAY ARE YOU OKAY BECAUSE YOU CAN HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON AND YOU DIDN'T CARE AND YOU SIT AND YOU WANT TO DO FIRE HIM BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS HE WAS INSUBORDINATE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR CALL CONCERNING THAT TRUCK WHEN THAT TRUCK TURNED OVER FRANK WAS THERE TO HOLD HIS HAND BECAUSE HE WAS BLEEDING AND HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIS OTHER ARM HOLDING UP THE OTHER ARM TO KEEP IT ABOVE HIS HEART.

OKAY. AND WHAT YOUR RESPONSE WAS IS WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL ME BACK AND

WHAT YOU DIDN'T ASK IS HOW IS THE EMPLOYEE I DID IT. >> YOU DID NOT ANSWER.

>> WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I ALWAYS KNOW AND LET ME JUST SAY BUT LET ME LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING AND FRANKLY PAYING SOMEBODY 260 OVER 260,000 DOLLARS IS CREATING IS GOING TO BE CREATING PROBLEMS FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE ALL THESE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE SEVERELY

UNDER PAID MUCH LESS THAN HE IS. >> SO IT DOES PAY.

BUT NOW IT'S ANNOUNCED ABOUT SALARIES WITH OTHER BETWEEN OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN FOR BUT NO BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SO I HAVE NUMEROUS WHO BELIEVE YOU BELIEVE WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE, WITHOUT BEING WITHOUT GOING ON TO SITES, WITHOUT DOING DRIVE BYS WITH THEM YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN'T DO THE JOB WITHOUT EVEN GOING IN TO SEE IF THEY CAN DO THE JOB AND NOT SEE WHAT'S IN GOES AND TELL WHAT THEY DO ALL DAY.

>> OKAY. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE UPSET AND THIS IS SO YOU KEEP LYING YOU KEEP LYING TO TO CONSTITUENTS YOU KEEP LYING TO RESIDENTS YOU KEEP LYING TO EVERYONE ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEY CANNOT DO AND IT'S BASED ON NO EVIDENCE.

SO WHEN EVERYONE SAYS I'M SORRY FRANCIS WHEN EVERYONE SAYS THAT WE'RE BEING SO DISRESPECTFUL TO YOU AND WE'RE PICKING ON YOU AND WE'RE BEING MEAN TO YOU BECAUSE YOU BECAUSE YOU WORK OFF NO FACTS YOU WORK OFF NO EVIDENCE YOU WORK OFF NOTHING YOU JUST WORK ON I BELIEVE WE ARE OUT IN THE TRENCHES. WE GO WE GO OUT EVERY NIGHT. WE ARE OUTSIDE LOOKING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND SO WE CAN BETTER HELP LEAD OUR OUR RESIDENT I MEAN OUR EMPLOYEES SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE JOBS THAT THEY DO.

>> WE CAN'T MANAGE BY EMAIL. THERE'S NO ONE CAN MANAGE BY EMAIL.

>> SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO AGAIN AS I SAID BEFORE BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND SHADOW THEM SO YOU

CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S DONE. >> WELL I AM GOING TO SPEND SIGNIFICANT TIME SCRUTINIZING EVERY ASPECT OF BOTH JOBS. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO ASK, YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT I THOUGHT OF ACTUALLY A FEW DAYS AGO IS WHAT'S THE POLICY IF ONE OR BOTH GET SICK OR GO ON VACATION AT THE SAME TIME. SO RIGHT NOW LET'S SAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUBLIC WE DON'T HAVE A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS. WE RIGHT NOW ONLY HAVE A COMMISSIONER SO NO, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING YOU KNOW HE HAS TWO JOBS COMMISSIONER AND BUILDING INSPECTOR SO IF HE GETS SICK OR IT GOES ON VACATION THERE'S NO BACKUP.

>> IT'S CALLED A BACKUP AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT EVERY ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS IF THEY HAVE TO BE OUT THEY HAVE A BACKHOE WHO'S WHO'S WHO'S UP THE BACKUP RIGHT NOW FOR FOR FRANK IF HE GETS IF HE GETS SICK OR GOES ON VACATION DO YOU KNOW OH LISTEN THIS NO,

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BUT WAIT A SECOND, PAUL FIRST IS SOMEBODY COULDN'T HANDLE TWO JOBS NOW YOU KNOW AND NOBODY CAN REMEMBER IT NOW YOU KNOW THAT HE PUNCHES IN AND RECORDED 80 HOURS A WEEK AND HE'S BEEN DOING THAT FOR TWO YEARS FOR TWO YEARS DOING TWO JOBS, VERY SIMILAR JOB BUILDING INSPECTOR AND BEFORE IT WAS DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE DPW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMMISSIONER DPW THAT'S OUT IN THE FIELD BECAUSE YOU KEPT SENDING EMAILS 20,000 I BELIEVE YOU WROTE THE NEWSPAPER AND ABOUT WHAT 11 MONTHS OR SO 20,000 COMPLAINTS I THINK YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS GETTING 20,000 COMPLAINTS

SOMEBODY IS NOT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT BUT HE IS DOING 80 HOURS. >> HE'S NOT DOING THE TWO JOBS IN 35 HOURS, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. WE ALL AGREE THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. BUT HE'S DOING IT IN 80. IT COMES OUT TO BE 80 HOURS ALMOST EXACTLY THAT NUMBER. SO LET'S SAY IT'S MORE THAN 70. THAT'S HOW IT'S POSSIBLY GOING

TO BE DONE AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE. >> HE DIDN'T STAY THERE NONSTOP. HE WAS LIKE AN ORCHESTRA LEADER MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS WORKING EFFICIENTLY. THERE'S A NARROW ROAD IN ONE NARROW ROAD IN AND ONE NARROW ROAD OUT AND HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THAT LEAGUE THAT LITTLE LEAGUE DONE QUICKLY BECAUSE HOW HE INTERACTS WELL WITH THE TRADES WITH THE COUNTY, WITH FIREFIGHTER APARTMENT EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED THE TOWN COUNCIL, EVERYBODY INVOLVED WHO'S WORKING WITH AN ULTIMATE GOAL OF GETTING THAT OPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

BUT ALSO AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE. BUT WHILE IT WAS THERE, I SAW PERSONALLY HIM HAVING TO GO TO DO AN INSPECTION AND ONE IN PARTICULAR WHICH HE WENT SEVERAL TIMES WAS WESTCHESTER GOLF WHERE YOU GOT EMAILS ABOUT WESTCHESTER GOLF. SO HOW IS HE DOING INSPECTIONS? HE DOESN'T HAVE TO STAND THERE ONCE PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND FRANKLY, MORANO BROTHERS CAN'T GIVE HIM A ENOUGH PRAISE BECAUSE THEY JUST REALLY STEPPED UP AND APPARENTLY I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THEIR NORMAL HIGH INTENSITY WORK ETHIC TO

GET THAT THING DONE. >> BUT YOU MAKE IT SEEM LIKE HE CAN'T DO HE CAN'T DO BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT THAT DETAIL THAT YOU WANT YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DO DUE DILIGENCE AND ANYBODY IN THIS TOWN WHO DOES INSPECTIONS HAS TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT THE RETALIATION YOU HAVE AGAINST TWO PEOPLE AND WANT THOSE OWN ONLY THOSE TWO PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL YOU KNOW TO ME IT'S ABUSIVE. THEY TREAT IT, THEY CONSIDER IT THAT YOU'RE CREATING A HOSTILE

WORK ENVIRONMENT. >> AND I WANT TO ASK YOU NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE DATA, WHAT IS

YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE DATA THAT YOU RECEIVED? >> OKAY.

WELL WHAT IS THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU WERE ME AS A QUESTION AND ANSWER MY QUESTION WITH THE QUESTION IS THE ANALYSIS THAT DAY THAT'S WHAT I'M YOU KNOW, LETTING ME FINISH.

SO I WANTED TO ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY IS I GOT THE DATA AND I DIDN'T SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERTS WHO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, BUILDING DEPARTMENT ICE.

AND I'M WONDERING BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHAT'S NOT AND I WAS GOING TO ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY IF I'M ABLE TO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERTISE IN BUILDING ISSUES SO THEY COULD GIVE ME THEIR ADVICE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE DOCUMENT. I CAN'T ANSWER.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. IT'S NOT DO YOU KNOW DO THIS ANY OTHER DAY?

>> I DO KNOW WHICH OTHER DEPARTMENTS I BET I BET THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE YOU DID I DO FIRST OF ALL, I'M DIRECTING THAT I'M GOING TO GET THE INFORMATION EVERY WEEK.

>> NO. OKAY. BUT WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE

YOU REQUIRED IS INFORMATION. >> OH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS YOU REQUIRE IT OF EVERYBODY. WELL IF YOU CHOICE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.

NO, I DON'T KNOW THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. YOU'RE NOT THAT YOU'RE A LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER. THAT WAS THE CHIEF I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE FORENSIC REPORT

. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IT'S A POLITICAL LEANING MOTIVATED REPORT THAT YOU ARE MAKING PERSONALLY BEING USED FOR A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN BY YOU.

>> WELL, IF IT'S POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE'S NO LET ME LET ME FINISH AND THEN YOU COULD SAY IF IT'S POLITICALLY MOTIVATED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S YOUR NEW SPIN, RIGHT? JUST LIKE YOU HAVE NOW EVOLVING CONCERNS, IT'S NOT SO MUCH HEY, WE KNOW IT'S DOCUMENTED THAT FRANK MORABITO, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND DEPUTY DOES 80 HOURS A WEEK NOW THAT YOU NOW YOU'RE MOVING ON TO OH BUT HE'S GETTING TOO MUCH MONEY BUT HE'S

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>> YOU KEEP YOUR MILITATING HIM BY WRITING TO THE PRESS WHERE WHEN WHEN HAVE WE EVER HAD A PERSONAL MATTER SO BLATANTLY PUT OUT ON WEBSITES AND ON THE NEWSPAPERS NAMING NAMES?

>> WELL, YOU'VE BEEN DOING SO IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS WITH THE FORENSIC REPORT EVERY TIME FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS YOU WROTE TO THE STATE COMPTROLLER PAUL ALL TRY TO CONTROL YOU.

>> SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS FOR THIS FORENSIC REPORT ME STUPID I'M STUPID NOW IT'S SO STUPID BECAUSE AND I HYPOCRITICAL BECAUSE YOU HAD HOLD SOMETHING ON THE WEBSITE FOR THREE MONTHS ALREADY BLAMING THE TOWN YOU YOU DID IT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION BECAUSE YOU TIMED THIS FORENSIC REPORT TO FOR POLITICAL REASONS SO THE RESIDENTS YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE ACTUALLY PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN AND AND AND YOU KNOW WHY WAS SAD OR WHATEVER AND AND YOU KNOW MY MY FEELING IS THAT I'M FEELING IT IS A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED REPORT THAT THAT THAT EVERYBODY YOU KNOW MOST PEOPLE IN THE TOWN REALIZES IS POLITICAL AND MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WE ARE TAKING CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ON PRACTICALLY EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE REPORT. SO IT'S NOT A DEVASTATING REPORT. WHAT COULD BE DEVASTATING IS FOR INSPECTIONS NOT TO BE DONE.

>> YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE, PLEASE WE HAVE A TWO PART QUESTION TO YOU WAS WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE DATA THAT YOU WERE SO INSISTENT THAT YOU CREATED?

>> NOW I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU NOW THAT I KNOW THAT I COULD SHARE IT.

YOU JUST FOUND THAT OUT NOW? YEAH. NO, YOU DON'T HAVE BECAUSE I WANTED TO ASK THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT DISCLOSING ANY INFORMATION THAT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO. SO I BASICALLY THOUGHT THAT THE INFORMATION THAT LIZ GAVE ME IF I COULD SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERTISE IN THE BUILDING PANEL I'M GOING TO ASK THEM FOR THESE ARE CITIZENS HAVE THERE'S ONE INDIVIDUAL THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND DO

EVIDENCE SECTIONS. >> I KNOW I HAVE PEOPLE I HELP PEOPLE ON MY MY QUESTION IS MY QUESTION NO MY QUESTION MY QUESTION IS THOUGH COMMITTEE THAT YOU HAVE TO REVIEW THE REVIEW TO REVIEW THE COMMISSIONERS WORK. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT

AND REDO THE INSPECTIONS. >> I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SHARE.

OKAY. SO SOMEWHERE THERE THAT'S MY POINT.

BUT THAT'S MY POINT. >> WHAT ARE THEIR QUALIFICATIONS? ONE WAS ONE WAS THE BUILDING INSPECTOR OF A BUILDING COMMISSIONER OF NEW YORK RUDY RINALDI WAS BUILDING COMMISSIONER SO HE HAS A DEPUTY I SPOKE TO HIM OVER THE WEEKEND . THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS A PROCUREMENT OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF YONKERS SO SHE'S ON THE COMMITTEE. I HAVE I HAVE I HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MEETING TOMORROW AT 1:00 WITH ME AND I MEAN THURSDAY I ONE WANTED TO SO NOW YOU'RE CALLING THE FORENSIC REPORT A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED DOCUMENT AND THAT IT WAS TIMED TO BE RIGHT BEFORE A CONVENTION? YES.

I WANTED AND THE DOCUMENTATION WILL SHOW THIS THERE'S AN EMAIL FROM JANUARY OF 2025 WHERE I WANTED THIS FORENSIC REPORT AND I WANTED IT BUT THEY WOULD DO IT GOING THROUGH THAT WERE TRYING TO THE NEW CONTROLLER WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS BUDGET.

YOU'RE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER THE BUDGETING IN THIS TOWN AND SHE COULD NOT DEVOTE THAT AND TO A FORENSIC AUDIT. SO SHE WAS TRYING TO BASICALLY UNSCRAMBLE YOU KNOW, WHERE DID THIS MONEY MOVE? WHERE DID THAT MONEY MOVE? WHAT DID WHAT WENT IN TO PUT THESE PLUGS THE MISSING MONEY SO THEY OKAY THEY'LL PUT A PLUG IN THEY PART OF IT'S GOING TO BE FROM THE COURTHOUSE SHE WAS DOING ALL OF THAT SO WE NEVER GOT TO IT.

BUT EVEN WHEN WE GOT TO IT TOWARDS THE END OF THE SUMMER YOU HELD IT OVER.

YOU HELD IT OVER, YOU DELAYED IT. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ME.

YOU WANTED THE REPORT TO GO TILL 2025 AND YOU WANTED TO ATTEND THE 20 23 TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF THE YOU YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED SO I'M GOING TO RUN DOWN THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THAT FORENSIC REPORT AND YOU TELL ME HOW IT WAS POLITICAL THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN. IS IT POLITICAL THAT THERE'S $30 MILLION IN UNCOLLECTED TAXES? IS THAT A POLITICAL THING THAT HAPPENED?

>> EVERYTHING IN THE FORENSIC REPORT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN

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COLLECT WHATEVER IT IS. ALL RIGHT. >> SO I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SEND THE BOARD A MEMO. I'M GOING TO WORK ON IT AND I'M GOING TO SEND THE BOARD A MEMO RESPONDING TO ANYTHING YOU SAY WITH THE FORENSIC REPORT AND THEN I'LL ALL RIGHT, SO SO

LET'S GO THROUGH THIS THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU. >> NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

PAUL, YOU'RE A CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. YOU GET A RIGHT TO SPEAK.

I'M AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK. YOU SAID THE REPORT IS A POLITICAL DOCUMENT. IS IT A POLITICAL DOC? IS IT A POLITICAL DOCUMENT OR A POLITICAL ACTIVITY THAT CAUSED THE MONEYS IN THE COURTHOUSE NOT TO BE COLLECTED?

WAS THAT POLITICAL? >> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS REPORT IS POLITICAL.

IS IT A POLITICAL DOCUMENT? IS IT A POLITICAL ACTIVITY THAT THERE WERE ISSUES REGARDING TAXES BEING RECEIVED? IS THAT A POLITICAL ACTIVITY? IS IT A POLITICAL ACTIVITY THAT IT HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT THE THE $32 MILLION FROM THE COURTHOUSE THAT WENT INTO FUND BALANCE INSTEAD OF BEING RESERVED FOR THE COURTHOUSE? IS THAT A POLITICAL ACTIVITY?

>> YOU CAN MAKE THESE CLAIMS THAT I SEE THAT YOU'RE DOING IT AND IF NOBODY'S AROUND TO RESPOND, WELL MAYBE THEY MIGHT BELIEVE IT BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IF YOU REPEAT THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN PEOPLE WILL START TO BELIEVE IT AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THAT BECAUSE IT HAPPENS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AS WELL. BUT IN HAVING A DISCUSSION LIKE THIS I'M SAYING TO YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHAT YOU SAY IT'S A POLITICAL DOCUMENT.

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAY IT WAS TIMED. YOU CAN TRIBUTE TO THE TIMING AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT OF THE TOWN BOARD THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON WHO'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE

AND THAT PERSON IS MAKING EVERYTHING POLITICAL. >> WE IT'S THE REST OF US.

YES. IT'S LIKE THE REST OF US ARE TRYING WORKING REALLY HARD AND OVER TIME TO TRY TO MAKE THIS TOWN FUNCTION AS BEST AS IT CAN.

AND WE CARE ABOUT THIS TOWN. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO WE'RE CALLING ON YOU TO DO YOUR PART AND TO BACK UP YOUR ALLEGATIONS WITH THE STATISTICS AND DATA. BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO DO ANYTHING UNTOWARD BUT WORK WITH US WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE A REAL HARD TIME DOING AND PEOPLE ARE PERCEIVING US AS THE ONES NOT WORKING WITH YOU BASED ON YOUR YOUR CONTINUE ATTESTATIONS THAT YOU BELIEVE CERTAIN THINGS AND THEN WHEN WE ASK QUESTIONS TO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM YOU YOU NEVER ANSWER. YOU ALWAYS DEFLECT.

SO HOW IS IT THAT THAT'S WORKING WITH US AND TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE? THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO GET THINGS DONE. WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD.

WE HAVE GREAT STAFF THAT IS WORKING REALLY HARD SO PLEASE BE RESPONSIVE, WORK WITH US AND DON'T WORK AGAINST US AND DON'T POLITICIZE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS

TOWN BETTER. >> OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO KNOW ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY I THINK THE FORENSIC REPORT WAS POLITICAL. I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAFT REPORT OF THE FORENSIC REPORT BECAUSE I HAD A COPY OF THE DRAFT REPORT, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SAID OUR REVIEW OF THE WAIT HOLD ON HERE. LET ME GET IT. CAN WE SAY OUR REVIEW WENT ON WHERE IS IT? IT SAYS OUR REVIEW DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY INDICATION OR EVIDENCE OF MALFEASANCE. THAT'S ON PAGE 14 OF THE DRAFT REPORT.

THEN COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN MET HE SPOKE ON THE PHONE WITH THE AUDITORS AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? THAT SENTENCE WHICH BASICALLY WAS POSITIVE ABOUT THE TOWN WAS TAKEN OFF THE DRAFT REPORT. SO THAT WAS NOT A TRUE IT IS A STUPID BECAUSE I HAVE IT IN

WRITING. >> YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING? YES.

YOU DO HAVE IT IN WRITING ON I WILL I WILL I HAVE IT IN WRITING.

>> I HAVE IT IN WRITING THAT YOU SPOKE. >> I HAVE IT.

I WILL I WILL GIVE YOU THE LETTERS WHEN BECAUSE I GOT THAT I HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT I WILL SHARE WITH WITH YOU AND I WILL SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC BECAUSE BECAUSE IT BE

MISLEADING. >> IT'S VERY MISLEADING BECAUSE YOU SPOKE TO THEM AFTER YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD MADE AN ACCUSATION I'M MAKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY?

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SO DREW, I DID NOT KNOW YOU YOU MET WITH THEM. YOU SAW NO USE.

YOU SPOKE TO THEM. YOU SAW THE DRAFT REPORT BECAUSE YOU SAW THE DRAFT REPORT AND NOBODY ELSE ON THE TOWN BOARD SAW THE DRAFT REPORT.

BUT YOU AND THEN WHEN YOU SAW THE DRAFT REPORT LEFT OUT AND PORTANT INFORMATION IT HAD SOMETHING POSITIVE. YOU SPOKE TO THEM. YOU GAVE THEM YOUR THOUGHTS AS WHAT THEY SHOULD PUT IN OR LEAVE OUT AND THEY TOOK THAT ONE SENTENCE OUT.

SO YOU TRIED MAKING THIS REPORT MORE NEGATIVE ABOUT THE TOWN. SO FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS YOUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO DAMAGE THE TOWN. YOUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO EXAGGERATE HOW HORRIBLE THE TOWN IS, HOW BAD OUR FINANCES IS WHEN YOU KNOW IT'S NOT TRUE . SO YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF AND YOU KNOW WHAT? BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT PUTTING THE TOWN YOU'RE NOT PUTTING THE TOWN FIRST. SO I WILL GIVE YOU I WILL GET YOU COPIES OF THE BACKUP INFORMATION I HAVE AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DONE AND THAT'S IT.

BUT YEAH BUT YOU BUT BASICALLY AGAIN FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS ON TV THAT SAID NO MALFEASANCE OCCURRED YOU MET AFTER YOU SAW THE DRAFT REPORT AND YOU GOT THEM TO CHANGE THE WORDING AND THERE WAS ONE SENTENCE OUT WHICH IS WHICH IS HORRIBLE.

>> I JUST WANT TO SEE THE WITNESS AND THE EVIDENCE. WELL, I WILL SHOW YOU THE

EVIDENCE. >> RIGHT. YOU OFTEN SAY THERE'S EVIDENCE

AND THEN YOU NEVER SHOW IT. >> I WILL SHOW IT TO YOU BECAUSE I HAVE IT.

I HAVE COPIES SO I DID NOT SPEAK TO THE FIRST OF ALL, DID YOU SPEAK TO THE AUDITORS?

>> THEY AND I NEVER SAW THE DRAFT REPORT. DID YOU KNOW COULD YOU JUST ANSWER A QUESTION? THEY THEY INTERVIEWED ME THEY INTERVIEWED ME EARLY ON WHEN THEY WERE COMPILING THE REPORT BUT I NEVER WAS GIVEN A COPY OF THE DRAFT REPORT.

YOU WERE SHOWN A COPY OF THE DRAFT REPORT BEFORE BEFORE THE FINAL REPORT WAS WAS OUT AND YOU MANIPULATED IT AND YOU BASICALLY YOUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE MOST DAMAGING REPORT TO YOU DOWN CAN YOU PLEASE JUST SO YOU SO BASICALLY YOUR GOAL IS TO DAMAGE THE TOWN, NOT HELP THE

TOWN AND YOU'RE THE LIAISON TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. >> THIS IS GOOD POLITICAL WILL

SHOW ANYBODY THE INFORMATION BECAUSE I TOOK PHOTOS. >> OKAY, GREAT.

RIGHT. >> SO I DID NOT SPEAK TO THE AUDITORS.

>> YOU DID BECAUSE PAUL LET HIM FINISH, PLEASE. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T DO IT.

I'LL DO IT IN WRITING BUT FINISH. BUT BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY.

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY WE LISTEN TO YOU BECAUSE WHEN YOU WRITE THAT I SPOKE TO THE AUDITORS AND THEN THEY REMOVE THAT SENTENCE IT IMPLIES THAT I SPOKE TO THE AUDITORS ABOUT THAT SENTENCE THE STATEMENT THAT'S IN THERE IS AN OPINION THE AUDITORS NOT THE ORDERS THE REPORT PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PAGE OF THAT DOCUMENT SAYS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO RENDER AN OPINION BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH OF A THOROUGH ANALYSIS. IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE.

>> YOU DIDN'T READ THAT, DID YOU? >> IT SAYS WE ARE NOT GOING TO RENDER AN OPINION THEREFORE WE'RE NOT GOING TO CALL IT AN AUDIT.

WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT A REPORT AND YOU'RE A MEMBER FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS.

WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH AS WHY IS THAT A REPORT NOT AN AUDIT AND THAT'S AN OPINION.

THE AUDITORS TOOK THAT OUT BECAUSE IT WAS AN OPINION AND IT WAS CONTRARY TO WHAT THEY PUT ON THEIR FIRST PAGE. BUT YOU CAN WRITE WHATEVER YOU WANT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO

RESPOND TO IT AND I'LL DO IT IN WRITING. >> OKAY.

SO AS WE KNOW I WOULD LIKE I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.

SO I'VE BEEN ASKED AS YOU ALL KNOW THAT I BE LIAISON TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE BEEN ASKED SEVERAL SEVERAL TIMES WITH REGARDS TO THE LAST TIME WHEN WHEN THAT RALEIGH WAS HERE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE TO POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

THEY STAFF WANTS TO KNOW WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT'S OUR PLAN GOING FORWARD FOR WHAT'S YOUR PLAN GOING TO PLAN FOR THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE THE STAFF IS ASKING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THE STAFF IS ASKING US. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND AND POLICE.

YOU KNOW, THEY WILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS NO, YOU KNOW WELL, WE'LL DISCUSS WHAT WHAT

THE BOARD'S PLANS ARE. >> YOU KNOW WHAT THE BOARD'S PLAN WAS WHEN WE HIRED AND WHEN WE HIRED BENNETT RALEIGH TO LOOK AT AND COME UP WITH SUGGESTIONS AND OPTIONS OF WHAT WE CAN DO. WE HAD A $39 MILLION. NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

SO STAFF IS CONCERNED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. >> SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU. WELL, WE ALL AS A GROUP WE COULD PUT THIS ON FOR A WORK SESSION AND AS A GROUP WILL THE DISCUSS WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE WITH THE COURTHOUSE

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AND WITH THE POLICE? >> BUT YOU'RE THE CHIEF I OFFICER WHAT I'M ASKING YOU KNOW THAT I JUST WANT TO THE ACTUAL FINANCIAL DECISIONS OF THE BOARD ARE MADE BY ALL OF US AS A GROUP AND WE THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S TRUE. 13 IF THAT WAS TRUE THEN THERE WOULD BE $32 MILLION STILL WE HAVE 7.4 MILLION THAT WAS RESERVED WELL THAT WAS RESERVED FOR THE COURTHOUSE.

>> YEAH. BECAUSE IT FAILED TO RESERVE. YOU THOUGHT YOU FAILED TO PASS RESOLUTIONS THAT WOULD HAVE RESERVE NO RESOLUTIONS ARE NEEDED.

THEY ARE NEEDED. THEY REQUIRED BY LAW. WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT REQUIRED BY LAW? COULD YOU DO THAT? COULD YOU FIND THAT

DOCUMENTATION FOR US? >> PUT YOUR PUT YOUR PEOPLE ON THAT OKAY YEAH BECAUSE OUR

UNJUST ENDING IS THAT IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. >> IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO THE SUPERVISOR THE SUPERVISOR ASK THAT I LOOK INTO THAT AND I'M STILL DOING MY REVIEW AND I'LL PROVIDE THE ANSWER TO THE ENTIRE TOWN AND I DO THINK THAT YOU PROBABLY DO NEED THE RESOLUTIONS. YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

LET ME BE CLEAR. LET ME BE CLEAR MY POSITION WHEN WE ADOPTED THAT BUDGET WE DID IT BY RESOLUTION. SO IF WE NEED A RESOLUTION TO RESERVE THE MONEY FOR THE COURTHOUSE, WE ALREADY ADOPTED THAT AND IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

BUT WE SO IF YOU'RE NOW SAYING A RESOLUTION IS NEEDED, GOOD WE HAD IT DONE.

>> OKAY. WELL I DISAGREE WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION.

OKAY. SO NOW WE ARE READY TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I MOVE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS SECOND NO SECOND ALL IN FA

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