[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ] [00:00:09] WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION. TODAY IS APRIL 21ST AND OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS WILLIAM NULL WHO WILL INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT AMENDED SITE PLAN RELATING TO MOHAWK DAY CAMP. THANK YOU MR. SUPERVISOR. THE TOWN BOARD. MY NAME IS WILLIAM KNOLL. I'M A PARTNER IN FADER AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MOHAWK DAY CAMP AND WITH ME IS ADAM WALLACH, CAMP DIRECTOR. >> THANK YOU JARED WRITER AND WELL WELL GROUSE SKI AND FROM CAESAR ENGINEERING IS NEXT KEYSER AND RYAN TOMPKINS AND WE'RE PLEASED TO BE HERE IN CONNECTION WITH MOHAWK CAMP I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MOHAWK IS AN INSTITUTION IN THE TOWN SINCE IT'S BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY DECADES. IT'S ON A 37 ACRE PARCEL AT 200 OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD AND IT CONSISTS OF TWO LOTS OWNED IN THE R TEN DISTRICT WHICH PERMITS THE DAY CAMP AND SCHOOL USES THAT WE HEAR REGARDING TOWN BOARD AS YOU KNOW HAS JURISDICTION FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND IT'S ALSO SUBJECT TO SPECIAL PERMIT USE BY BY THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS THEIR PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS TO DEAL WITH WITH YOU KNOW DIFFICULTIES THAT HAVE BEEN INCREASING WITH MORE SEVERE WEATHER AND THE NEED TO BRING CHILDREN INSIDE AND AND PROTECT THEM SO ADAM AND NICK WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE VARIOUS CHANGES BUT ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE DESIGNS SO THAT THEY CONFORM TO THE EXISTING ZONING REGULATIONS. SO HEIGHT AND SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WE WE'VE DEVELOPED A SITE PLAN THAT THAT HAS CONSIDERABLE DETAILS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT IT TO YOU FORMALLY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING YOUR COMMENTS NOW SO THAT WE CAN TRY AND ADDRESS WHATEVER ISSUES OR CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE. SO ADAM, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? UM, SURE. THANK YOU, BILL. SO AS BILL SHARED, WE'RE THRILLED TO BE HERE AND THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME. IF YOU COULD PULL THE MICROPHONE CLOSELY AND THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME THERE SEVERAL SEVERAL PROJECTS AND AREAS OF THE CAMP THAT WE WISH TO ENHANCE AND AS BILL SHARED MAKE THE CAMP SAFER STREAMLINED OPERATION ONES THAT ARE BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND SHOWCASE OUR COMMITMENT THAT THAT MARK DAY CAMP REMAINS AN OPEN GREEN SPACE. THERE'S SIX MAIN COMPONENTS OUR MASTER PLAN THAT WILL WALK THROUGH AND I WON'T BE REDUNDANT AT THIS TIME AS WE AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE PLANS WE HAVE PRIMARY PREPARED SCHEMATIC MASTER SITE PLAN WITH LINE OF SIGHT DRAWINGS AND WE FEEL THESE DRAWINGS WILL PROVIDE AN EXCELLENT VISION OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN. IT'S BEEN A GREAT PROCESS WORKING WITH CHEESE ENGINEERING AND CUTTING AND FETTER AND REALLY LEARNING ABOUT THE MOHAWK PROPERTY. I'M COMING UP ON MY 11TH SUMMER AT MOHAWK AND WHILE WE'VE MADE SOME NICE ENHANCEMENTS OVER THE LAST 11 YEARS I HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF A MASTER PLAN AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING OUR PROPERTY AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE COMMUNITY HAS HELPED US BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WITH ALL OF THE ENHANCEMENTS WE'RE LOOKING TO PRESENT TODAY MOST IMPORTANTLY AND FROM SOME OF MY OTHER TIMES HERE IN FRONT OF THE TOWN ALL OF OUR ENHANCEMENTS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT ZONING SETBACK WHEREVER POSSIBLE WE'VE USED EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. WE WERE MINDFUL OF ALL WETLAND BUFFERS. SOME OF THE ENHANCEMENTS ARE TO REDUCE TRAFFIC ON OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD OF DELIVERY VEHICLES. >> MOST IMPORTANTLY OUR HANSENS ARE TO IMPROVE CAMP AND MAKE IT SAFER WITH THE NUMBER OF SEVERE STORMS AND ALSO WE'VE CONSIDERED OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE LOT OF THE ENHANCEMENTS OR RECONFIGURATIONS OF EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS TO MOVE THEM TO BETTER AREAS OF THE CAMP SO THAT IT FUNCTIONS BETTER BOTH FOR SAFETY AND FOR JUST OPERATIONS. SO IT'LL BE DESCRIBED BUT IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE ADDING NEW THINGS AMONG ALL OF THESE ITEMS. SOME OF THEM ARE JUST RELOCATIONS. YOU'VE GOT TO DISTINGUISH WHICH IS WHICH FOR SURE. YES. SO THE FIRST SLIDE IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD THE PINK THE THE LIGHT PINK BOUNDARY IS THE 200 FOOT BUFFER THAT EXISTS AT MOHAWK. AND THEN WE RECENTLY HAD A WETLAND DELINEATION PERFORMED AT THE CAMP. [00:05:08] SO THESE ARE TRUE WETLANDS. WE LEARNED THAT SOME WETLANDS ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN WERE PREVIOUSLY INDICATED AND SOME OTHER WETLANDS EXISTED THAT WEREN'T PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY SHOWN ON THE MAP. THE NEXT SLIDE CLEARLY SHOWS I GUESS I SHOULD BE POSITIVE FOR QUESTIONS OR KEEP GOING. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE JUST PERFECT SO THIS IS AN EXISTING SITE PLAN HERE AND SHOWING ALL THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THE THE CURRENT THE CURRENT CAMP YOU KNOW, CONFIGURATION AND ERGONOMICS OF HOW THE CAMPERS, YOU KNOW, MOVE FROM DIFFERENT PLACE TO PLACE. CURRENTLY THE BOYS ARE FOCUSED IN THEIR CHANGING AND PREPARATION AREAS IN THIS AREA DOWN HERE AND THE GIRLS ARE FOCUSED IN THIS AREA DOWN HERE. UM THE JUST ORIENTING YOU TO THE TO THE LAYOUT OF THE FACILITY, THE MAIN OFFICES ARE DOWN HERE. THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATION IS AND THE MAINTENANCE AREA CURRENTLY IS FOCUSED ON THIS PORTION OF THE SITE. UM SO ONE OF THE BIG YOU KNOW RECONFIGURE OPERATIONS IS TO TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE ERGONOMICS OF THE SITE AND HAVING YOU KNOW BATHROOMS LOCATED AND STRATEGIC AREAS AND ALL THESE FACILITIES DOWN HERE ARE ACTUALLY JUST TENTS AND THEN MOHAWK PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST THEY WENT THROUGH KIND OF A NICE UPGRADE AND PUT HARD STRUCTURES FOR THE CAMPERS TO CHANGE IN. BUT ONE OF THE RECONFIGURATIONS IS ACTUALLY TO TAKE THESE TENTS WHICH ARE YOU KNOW, NOT AS NICE AS THESE COVERED STRUCTURES AND MOVE THIS TO THIS AREA OVER HERE AND I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT INDIVIDUALLY BUT OT AND THAT IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE A SIGNIFICANT ADDITION OF FACILITIES. IT'S REALLY MERELY CHANGING THESE FACILITIES LOCATION OVER HERE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING THAT THEY GET CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTED ON TOP OF AN EXISTING LARGE IMPERVIOUS LIKE HOCKEY RINK AREA THAT'S RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S ONE KEY CONSIDERATION I WANTED TO POINT OUT. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE MAINTENANCE AREA. UM THE MAIN AREA CURRENTLY IS IN A LOCATION THAT'S A LITTLE THAT'S THAT'S GENERALLY RIGHT HERE AND WE'RE BASICALLY MOVING PROPOSING TO MOVE IT TO AN AREA DOWN HERE THAT'S ALSO ON AN EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ACTIVITY AREA TRYING TO GET MAINTENANCE IN A MORE LOCATION THAT'S CONVENIENT TO THE FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINING AND AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY'RE PERFORMING IS APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD UH SEVERAL YEARS AGO BUT IT WAS NOT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AND CONSTRUCTED SO IT HAD BEEN LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY. WELL OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH THE DETAILS WITH IT BUT THAT LOCATION IS IS IMPORTANT. >> THE OTHER ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS. >> OKAY THANK YOU. JUST AS FAR AS TOPOGRAPHY, MAYBE YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN THAT THE THE THE WAY THE ROAD RUNS AND UM YEAH, OBVIOUSLY THE ROAD THE ROAD THE MAIN ROAD DOWN HERE THAT ACCESSES THE SITE IS AT A HIGHER TOWN ROAD SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER ELEVATION. YOU KNOW GENERALLY THE SITE IS FLAT AND A LOT OF THE WATER AREAS KIND OF DRAIN OFF INTO THESE LIKE MINOR WETLAND AREAS . I BELIEVE WE DID A WETLAND MARK OUT THESE AREN'T UM CONSIDERED STATE DC REGULATED WETLANDS BUT THEY DO MEET THE CRITERIA OF UM GREEN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG'S WETLAND WETLAND SITUATION. SO WE ARE TAKING THEM INTO CONSIDERATION. >> UM SO YOU KNOW THE TOPOGRAPHY DOESN'T REALLY CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO ANY CHALLENGES ON THE PLANNING SIDE BUT UM, YOU KNOW THE SITE IS SERVICED BY MUNICIPAL SEWER WHICH IS RELATIVELY REASONABLE FOR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. SO I'M GOING TO MOVE FROM THIS EXISTING CONDITIONS PLAN. THIS IS REALLY THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS PLAN. UM, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE RECONFIGURED. THE FIRST ONE I KIND OF SUGGESTED WAS THIS HERE WHICH IS BASICALLY PROVIDING THE BOYS A VERY SIMILAR BUNKHOUSE CONFIGURATION TO THE GIRLS BUNKHOUSE AND AS I SAID THAT'S TO BE PROPOSED OVER AN EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. SO THE DELTA THERE IS NOT RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT FROM A STORMWATER PERSPECTIVE. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL CALL THE THE BUNKHOUSE AREA RECONFIGURATION JUST AS SORRY BUT AS FAR AS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT GOES THE SITE HAS VIRTUALLY NONE RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE INSTALLING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS ON ON THE SITE AS PART OF THIS IMPROVEMENT SO THAT SHOULD HELP IN THE PARKING AREA AND IT SHOULD HELP ELSEWHERE IN THE CAMP AS WELL. >> SO LIKE I SAID THIS IS A THIS IS JUST A HIGHER LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED FEATURES. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM [00:10:01] EACH INDIVIDUALLY THIS IS LIKE I SAID A BUNKHOUSE RECONFIGURATION. UM THERE IS AN ACTIVITY AREA DOWN HERE OUTDOOR ADVENTURE AREA THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. UM IT'S REALLY JUST A RECONFIGURATION OF EXISTING ACTIVITIES NOT A SIGNIFICANT MUSCLE MOVEMENT. THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERLAY OF THE MAINTENANCE AREA IMPROVEMENT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IT'S BASICALLY JUST MOVING THE MAIN AREA THAT'S EXISTING FROM THIS AREA DOWN TO THIS AREA. UM THIS INTERIOR RED SQUARE IS JUST A GENERAL SUMMARY OF RECONFIGURING THE QUAD. ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS RELATIVELY ANTIQUATED WITH THE YOU KNOW FENCES IT'S NOT VERY ERGONOMICALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE ACTIVITIES THAT GO ON THERE. SO IT'S KIND OF A GENERAL RECONFIGURING OF THAT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS A PROPOSED INDOOR SPORTING FACILITY WITH A PARKING AREA IMPROVEMENT WHICH IS DOWN HERE AND IT IS THAT THAT IS 45,000FT2 THAT HAS CLASSROOMS AND OFFICE SPACE AS WELL. >> SO WELL ANY OF THAT BE LIKE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC DURING THE OFFSEASONS YES IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY TO RENT SPACE AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THAT LINE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR DISCOUNTS FOR RESIDENTS AND SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE COULD RUN FOR SENIORS. UM SIMILAR TO THE ITEMS THAT YOU DISCUSSED WITH THE SPORT TIME PEOPLE WHAT WHO WOULD THE CLIENTELE BE AND WHAT REFERENCE FOR YOU MAKING TO SPORT TIME SURE. SO IN TERMS OF THE CLIENTELE WOULD BE LOCAL YOUTH SPORTS CLUBS MOSTLY AND SIMILAR TO YOU KNOW AS I LEARNED ABOUT THE SPORT TIME AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE AND I REVIEWED THAT RESIDENTS COULD HAVE DISCOUNTS OF UP TO 10%. WE COULD DO CERTAIN PROGRAMS FOR SENIORS DURING OFF HOURS THAT WOULD BE MORE AVAILABLE TO SENIORS. UM AND THEN ALSO PUT TOGETHER SOME, YOU KNOW, SLATE OF COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT COULD BE HOSTED WHETHER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OR THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER. UM SO THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM WHEN WE CAME MAYBE THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING UP A BUBBLE WHILE A BUBBLE WOULD PROVIDE CERTAIN THE BUBBLE WOULD PROVIDE SPACE NOT DURING THE SUMMER. WHAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS IS THAT THE SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE DURING THE SUMMER WE NEED AN INDOOR SPACE WHERE WE CAN MOVE OUR ENTIRE CAMP COMMUNITY DURING THE SUMMER. SO IN ORDER TO BUILD A BUILDING LIKE THAT AT THE SIZE OF 45,000FT2 WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO USE THAT FACILITY YEAR ROUND. WE SO I'M SORRY NO I ALSO IS GOING TO SHARE PREVIOUSLY ALSO WHEN WE CAME THREE YEARS AGO THE LOCATION OF THAT BUILDING WAS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT ZONING SETBACK. SO WE'VE ALSO RELOCATED THAT BUILDING TO NOT TO NOT TO BE OUTSIDE OF THAT 200 FOOT AREA AS WELL. >> WE ALSO YOU KNOW, REMEMBER DON'T NEED A VARIANCE. NO, WE DON'T NEED A VARIANCE AND IT ALSO WILL BE NO HIGHER THAN THE 30FT. THAT'S THE MAXIMUM AND WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO BEFORE AND I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY WELL FAMILIAR WITH THIS BUT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN OR AT A HIGHER ELEVATION THAN THE CAMP GRADE LEVEL AT THE POINT THAT THE THE FIELD HOUSE WOULD BE. AND AGAIN AS YOU HEAD TO THE LEFT ON THE SITE WHERE THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING IS, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE DOWN THERE ARE AT A LOWER ELEVATION THAN THE CAMP AND I THINK THAT CHANGES WILL SHOW YOU THE LINE OF SIGHT PLANS AND DRAWINGS THAT THAT GIVE A SENSE OF THIS . BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. OF COURSE THE 30FT IS NO TALLER THAN THAN A HOUSE. >> YOU HAVE LIKE A WRITTEN NARRATIVE BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS, IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD READ IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH EASIER. >> YEAH, WE SUBMITTED A LETTER THAT THAT LAYS OUT A LOT OF THAT I MEAN WITH EACH WE HAVE A WE HAVE WE HAVE DELIBERATE BREAK OUT SLIDES FOR EACH ONE OF THE TOPICS SO WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH THOSE INDIVIDUALLY AND EXCITE QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO EACH SPECIFIC AREA. >> WOULD YOU RATHER US HOLD OUR QUESTIONS OR SHOULD WE HOLD OUR QUESTIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ITEM. OKAY, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THIS. WE'RE JUST DOING A HIGHER LEVEL. WE JUST DOING THE HEIGHT. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE JUST A QUICK SUMMARY ON THE MAINTENANCE AREA HERE AND MAYBE IT'S ALSO HELPFUL TO SHARE THAT MOHAWK COMING UP ON ALMOST 100 YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE AND CERTAINLY THERE'S BEEN A FEW CAMP DIRECTORS OVER THE TIME WHEN I WAS WHEN CAESAR ENGINEERING WAS WAS INTRODUCED TO ME UM, NICK AND HIS PARTNER NATE ARE OUR FORMER ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER ENGINEERS SO THEY CAME WITH A MUCH DIFFERENT VIEW OF CAMP AND WHEN I SAID TO THEM LIKE HAVE YOU EVER WORKED WITH THE CAMP BEFORE THEY'RE LIKE WELL WE'VE BUILT BASES ALL OVER THE WORLD AND A BASE IS KIND OF LIKE A CAMP. [00:15:03] THEY HAVE PLAYGROUNDS AND POOLS SO NICK AND NATE AND HIS PARTNER REALLY PUSHED US TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OUR FACILITY AND HE'S LIKE WHY IS MAINTENANCE IN THE CENTER OF THE CAMP LIKE THEY MAKE YOU KNOW, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT YOU HAVE YOUR YOUR GASOLINE, YOUR MACHINERY VERSUS MOVING THAT TO THE LOWER LOT WHERE ALSO WE CAN THEN SET UP A FACILITY DOWN THERE TO HAVE FREEZERS. YOU KNOW ALL OF THE DELIVERIES COME INTO THE PARKING LOT INTO THE MAINTENANCE AREA. NO TWO VEHICLES ARE COMING INTO THE CAMP IN THE MORNING WHEN YOU KNOW THE FOOD DELIVERY IS ALWAYS LATE THEN IT SHOWS UP RIGHT AS ARRIVALS HAPPENING. SO NOW YOU HAVE A 16 WHEEL TRACTOR TRAILER ALONG WITH ALL THE BUSSES. SO I MEAN ALL OF THIS WAS WAS THOUGHT OUT. I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE 45,000 FOOT FIELD HOUSE. YOU KNOW THE THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE MADE ARE CERTAINLY BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AND CERTAINLY BENEFICIAL TO THE CAMP. SO AS NICK SHARED, THIS IS A POTENTIAL RENDERING OF THE OF THE MAINTENANCE STRUCTURE. THIS IS LOCATED IN THE LOWER LOT. WE'RE USING AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING SO THE IMPACT SHOULD BE MINIMAL AS AN APPROPRIATE WORD BUT LESS THAN IF WE DIDN'T USE THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THE NET IMPERVIOUS SURFACE DELTA ON THIS PROPOSED TRANSACTION IS ONLY 1000FT2 SO IT'S RELATIVELY INSIGNIA AGAIN FROM A STORMWATER PERSPECTIVE IT'S ALSO AN EXISTING ACTIVITY THAT'S ON LIKE A PAVED SURFACE AND REALLY WE'RE JUST PROPOSING TO PUT A KIND OF LIKE A POLE BARN TYPE OF A BUILDING THERE AND JUST REALLY THE VALUE THERE IS MOVING IT OUT OF THE CENTER OF THE CAMP. UM SO HERE'S A KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AREA WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT . OKAY. UM HERE'S A GENERAL LINE OF SIGHT DIAGRAM OF THE MAINTENANCE AREA IS THIS GRAPH HERE SHOWS GENERALLY THE LOCATIONS OF THE LINE OF SIGHT DIAGRAMS LOOKING THIS WAY AND LOOKING THIS WAY. SO FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLAN ON THE CAMP AS BILL SUGGESTED BEFORE THIS WHOLE SIDE OF THE CAMP IS MUCH LOWER AND THERE'S A WHOLE VEGETAL EXISTING VEGETATIVE BUFFER THAT REALLY RESISTS THE VISIBILITY OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE FROM THE FACILITIES ON THIS SIDE. AND AS YOU CAN TELL THERE'S A LOT OF TREES THERE CURRENTLY I WOULD SUGGEST IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM ITS CURRENT POSITION. THIS IS CURRENTLY LIKE A TRASH COLLECTION AREA AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF LIKE THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THIS IS PUTTING UP A POLE BARN AND MAKING YOU KNOW, THE ESTHETICS OF THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE CAMP A LITTLE BIT NICER. UM SO FROM A YOU KNOW FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE IT'S GOING TO BE A RELATIVELY LOW IMPACT FACILITY AND IT'S ON AN EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE SO THE STORMWATER IMPACT IS RELATIVELY LOW AS WELL. UM NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE QUAD AREA WHICH IS JUST TO GIVE A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THAT. SO CURRENTLY THE QUIET AREA IS A KIND OF JUST A GRASSY AREA THAT WHICH EXISTS. IT HAS SOME MINI MINIATURE GOLF COURSES. IT'S THE FIRST AREA THAT EVERYONE SEES WHEN THEY ARRIVE AT THE CAMP AND SCHOOL. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ENHANCE THIS AREA AND HAVE IT LOOK MORE FUN. SO WHEN FAMILIES ARRIVE AT CAMP THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ABOUT TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN AND CREATING AND CREATING FUN. SO JUST A COMBINATION OF SOME UMBRELLA STRUCTURES, SOME TURF AND AND PAVERS AND PING PONG TABLES, FOOSBALL, UM TYPE GAMES. SO AGAIN THE IMPACT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY LOW. YEAH THE JUST AS FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IMPACT ON THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE IMPROVEMENT IS ROUGHLY 8000FT2 OR 6000FT2 AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, CONVERT AREAS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IMPERVIOUS NOW TO PERVIOUS SYSTEM SO THAT THE STORMWATER FACILITIES ARE ACTING A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO THIS ENTIRE AREA IS KIND OF GENERALLY PROPOSED TO BE PERMEABLE PAVERS AND WE CAN KIND OF LINK THIS INTO OTHER LARGER AT A HIGHER LEVEL WATER STORMWATER FACILITIES THAT WE'LL BE PROPOSING AS PART OF THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE KIND OF JUST BOUNCING OFF OF WHAT BILL HAD SAID PREVIOUSLY. THERE'S GENERALLY NO SIGNIFICANT STORMWATER FACILITIES ON THE SITE NOW EXCEPT FOR YOU KNOW DRAINAGE DITCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND PART OF THAT PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO WITH THE RECENT RAIN EVENTS THAT WE HAD HAVE HAD IN THE PAST TRY TO ADD SOME FACILITIES HERE THAT CONTROL THAT AND MAKE THE FACILITY A LITTLE BIT SAFER FOR ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS. >> SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH DRAINAGE, HOW WOULD THAT IMPROVEMENTS HOW WILL THAT [00:20:01] IMPACT SAY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA? >> SO IT WOULD POSITIVELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S NO STORMWATER AND WE WOULD BE ADDING SOME FACILITIES THAT YOU KNOW, SLOW DOWN THE STORMWATER SURGE SYSTEM SO THAT THEY'RE KIND OF BEING RELEASED INTO THE COMMUNITY AT A SLOWER RATE AS OPPOSED TO THE EXISTING RATE WHICH IS FASTER. SO ANY IMPROVEMENT THAT WE CAN MAKE WOULD BE NET POSITIVE I WOULD SUGGEST ARE THERE ARE THERE UM IS THERE DRAINAGE ON TO THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOWER NOW THAT IS PROBLEMATIC. >> YEAH NOT PROBLEMATIC I WOULD SAY BUT IT'S JUST NATURAL DRAINAGE BASED ON THE STANDARD TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE WHICH GENERALLY CASCADES FROM HIGHER TO THE RIGHT SIDE AND LOWER TO THE LEFT SIDE. SO WATER DOES TRAVEL THERE OBVIOUSLY LIKE YOU HAVE OVERLAND SHEET FLOW AND THERE'S SIGNIFICANT STORMWATER EVENTS AND YOU KNOW ADDING PERMEABLE PAVING SYSTEMS IN AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IMPERVIOUS WOULD DECREASE THAT AMOUNT OF FLOW BY THAT PROPORTIONATE RATE. SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THROUGH THIS LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING IN THIS IN PARTICULAR LIKE THE NET AREA THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IMPACT IS GOING TO BE NET POSITIVE FOR THE YOU KNOW, ADJACENT FACILITIES WHEN YOU START WITH NOT UH YOU KNOW AS ADAM SAID, THE FACILITY IS 100 YEARS OLD. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THESE STORMWATER CHECKS BACK THEN. ANYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT. I WOULD SAY TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THAT INCLUDES THE PARKING LOT. SO THE NEXT FACILITY THAT'S PROPOSED IS A POOL AND A SPLASH PAD SO THIS WOULD BE ADDING ONE ADDITIONAL POOL TO THE CAMP AND THEN A KID SPLASH PAD THAT HAS THOSE FUN SLIDES THAT YOU SEE THERE GOING IN AND THIS IS LOCATED JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE EXISTING AQUATICS COMPLEX. SO AGAIN, KEEPING ALL OF OUR AQUATICS FACILITIES TOGETHER AND THEN WITH THE RELOCATION OF THE BOYS BUNKS IT ALSO MOVES THE BUNKS CLOSER TO THE AQUATICS COMPLEX. SO JUST LOGISTICALLY IT MAKES LIFE MAKE MORE SENSE AT MOHAWK LOGISTICALLY FOR CAMPERS AND FOR THE STAFF AS WELL WHO ARE CARING FOR THOSE CAMPERS. YEAH, NOTHING SIGNIFICANT TO DISCUSS HERE FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE IT'S BASICALLY A NEW POOL AND A SPLASH PAD AND THE ASSOCIATED FACILITIES WITH THAT THE BUNKHOUSE KIND OF I TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE BEGINNING THE HIGHER LEVEL OVERVIEW. >> YEAH. SO WE A FEW YEARS AGO WE WE ENHANCED THE GIRLS BUNKS OR WHAT WE CALL THE GIRLS BUNKS OR MAYBE JUST TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SET UP THAT WE'RE DUPLICATING. WE COULD PROBABLY GO BACK IF YOU WANTED TO TO THE MAIN THE FIRST MAP. SO THE BUILDING THE ART BUILDING THAT WE CONSTRUCTED IN 2017 IS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE IF YOU COULD POINT THAT OUT IN THE MIDDLE. SO THE BUNKS TO THE SOUTH OF THAT THOSE ARE THE EXISTING GIRLS BUNKS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AND RENOVATED AND WHERE IT SAYS LONGHOUSE ON THE MAP TO THE NORTH OF THE THEATER BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY AS FOLD AREA. SO AGAIN USING EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WE WOULD DUPLICATE THE GIRLS BUNKS AND HAVE THE BOYS BUNKS THIS WAY ALL OF THE CAMPERS BUNKS AND A BUNK AGAIN MARKS A DAY CAMP NOT WHERE THEY SLEEP BUT JUST WHERE THEY CHANGE BEFORE AND AFTER SWIM WOULD ALL BE LOCATED IN ONE CENTRAL AREA AND ALSO BETTER LOCATED CLOSER TO THE AQUATICS COMPLEX. >> YEAH AND FROM A ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE THE BUNKS ARE NOT LIKE YOU KNOW, UH, WINTERIZED FACILITIES. >> IT'S FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IT'S A BIG DECK. IT'S A BIG DECK WITH A SHED ON TOP OF THE DECK. UM, THERE'S NO ELECTRIC. IT'S A RELATIVELY LOW IMPACT. YEAH, BUT IT'S LIKE A A CAMP, A CHANGING ROOM. IT'S LIKE ON A DECK. THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NO BEDS . YEAH. IT'S LITERALLY JUST LIKE CUBBIES AND LIKE TO LIKE LITERALLY A SHED TO SHED. IT'S A SHED. IT'S A SHED WITH CUBBIES AND A BENCH AND LIKE SOMEWHERE TO HANG A CHANGE OF CLOTHES. YEAH. IT'S LIKE A LOW IMPACT, YOU KNOW, FROM A TOP LEVEL VIEW IT'S LITERALLY A DECK. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF SHELVES ON TOP OF THE DECK TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW AND I THINK THE MAIN POINT HERE IS LIKE THE ERGONOMICS OF THE SITE LIKE THE POOLS ARE HERE, THEY HAVE TO GET CHANGED TO GO IN AND OUT OF THE POOLS. CURRENTLY THE BOYS HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE AND THIS IS LIKE MUCH QUICKER OF A YOU KNOW, CENTRAL AREA. YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALL CONGREGATING AND ALSO BATHROOMS THERE'S NO BATHROOMS IN THIS FACILITY AND KIND OF TRADES OUT TENTS THAT THE BOYS ARE USING FOR A SHED. YEAH THE CURRENT CURRENT ROBUST AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURE, YEAH. FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE LIKE IT'S HARD ROOF YOU KNOW UM CURRENTLY THE BOYS GET CHANGED DOWN HERE AND THE COLLECTION OF YOU KNOW JUST FABRIC PLASTIC TENTS UM, YOU KNOW SO THIS WOULD BE A NET IMPROVEMENT, YOU KNOW OVER THERE SO THAT'S A THE [00:25:09] BUNKHOUSE THE CURRENT UM WHAT'S CALLED THE LONG HOUSE IS BASICALLY THE FOOTPRINT OF IT. IT'S BASICALLY LIKE THIS SO THE YOU KNOW WE SELECTIVELY CHOSE THAT AREA TO ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE MAKING AN IMPROVEMENT UM THE NEXT FACILITY IS CALLED THE OUTDOOR ADVENTURE AREA SO THIS IS JUST AN UPGRADE OF THE EXISTING OUTDOOR ADVENTURE ACTIVITIES A NEW ZIP LINE THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED A QUICK JUMP ACTIVITY WHICH USES TELEPHONE POLES AND THE KIDS ARE BELAY OUR BLADE UP AND THEN THEY LITERALLY JUMP LIKE A BUNGEE JUMP BUT THERE'S NO BACK UP. YOU'RE JUST DOWN AND YOU GENTLY FALL TO THE GROUND OR LOWERED TO THE GROUND. SO THESE ARE ACTIVITY SPACES SO THEY'RE NOT ACTUAL LIKE HARD PERMANENT BUILDINGS OR REALLY JUST YOU KNOW, HOLES IN THE GROUND SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO REAL CONCRETE OR SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL FACILITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN HERE. UM, SO LOW IMPACT I WOULD SAY NEGLIGENT IMPACT FROM A STORMWATER PERSPECTIVE AND THESE ACTIVITIES EXIST HERE IN A LIKE ADJACENT TO THIS THEY'RE JUST KIND OF TRYING TO RECONFIGURE THEM TO A MORE UH EFFICIENT LOCATION ON THE SITE AND AGGREGATE THEM IN THE SAME PLACE SO THAT ADJACENCY OF ONE ACTIVITY TO ANOTHER MAKES MORE SENSE. >> AND THEN THIS IS A FIELD HOUSE FACILITY THAT WE'RE GENERALLY DISCUSSING AND IT'S THE CONCEPT FOR IT. IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF COURSE WILL HAVE AN ACTUAL DESIGN WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU. THIS IS THE 45, RIGHT? >> YEAH. AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE CLASSROOMS AND OFFICE SPACE SO WE'LL HAVE EMPLOYEES THERE AS WELL AS THE FIELD HOUSE SO IN THE FIELD HOUSE WHAT WHAT YOU FOR THE OUTSIDE RENTALS YOU YOU MENTIONED LOCAL SPORTS GROUPS WHAT NO TOURNAMENT SO THERE NO OKAY WHAT SPORTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SO WE COULD PROBABLY DO SO BE A COMBINATION OF TURF AND MAYBE ALSO POTENTIALLY SOME COURTS SO SOCCER LACROSSE FIELD HOCKEY POTENTIALLY BASKETBALL POTENTIALLY PICKLEBALL VOLLEYBALL I MEAN WOULD PROBABLY I MEAN PURELY COULD BE I MEAN ANYTHING BUT HOCKEY I GUESS I GUESS HOCKEY WOULD BE THE ONLY SPORT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE EQUIPPED AND I MEAN MAYBE FLAG FOOTBALL FLAG FOOTBALL COULD BE A PLACE I MEAN JUST NOT NOT MULTIPLE THINGS AT ONCE IT'S LIKE FLEX SPACE SO THAT YOU CAN USE PICKLEBALL WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR. >> RIGHT. RIGHT. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT WHAT KIND OF USERS THERE WOULD BE AND THEY'RE NOT TOURNAMENT BUT THEY WILL BE TEAM GAMES TEAMS PLAYING IT'S MORE OF A PRACTICE AT LEAST MORE OF A PRACTICE FACILITY SO TEAMS WOULD RESERVE ,YOU KNOW, A FIELD SPACE TIME FROM 6 TO 730 POTENTIALLY AND THEY WOULD HAVE THAT FIELD FOR THAT 90 MINUTE PERIOD BECAUSE THE NATURE I'M SORRY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS WHETHER IT'S COMPETITIVE GAMES WHERE TWO DIFFERENT TEAMS COME TOGETHER MORE. >> I WAS ASKING WHAT I WAS LEADING TO WAS PEOPLE COMING TO WATCH SPORTS. I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE LIVING RESIDENTIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOME LEVEL OF ASSURANCE HERE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN GIVE AND IT SOUNDS THAT WAY THAT IT'S NOT THIS THERE WILL NOT BE COMPETITIVE SPORTS AND THEREFORE PEOPLE COMING TO WATCH THE SPORTS WHICH CREATES TRAFFIC AND NOISE CONSIDERATIONS. SO THAT IS NOT THOSE ARE THOSE WOULD BE THE CONCERNS IN PRACTICE NOT SETTING IT UP WITH BLEACHERS AND AND SPACE FOR CROWDS GET IT'S NOT A SPECTATOR CENTRIC FACILITY NO I UNDERSTAND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WATCHING NOW OR LATER SO I THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE GOOD CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU. UH, COUNTS GOING TO BE YOU KNOW ,AT ITS BUSIEST TIME. >> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE EVALUATED YET THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN EVALUATE IF IF IT IS REQUIRED. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE HAVE I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PUTTING A 45,000 SQUARE FOOT UH, YOU KNOW, BUILDING YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YOU KNOW SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT. >> MR. SUPERVISOR THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SPECTATOR SPORT SO WE WON'T HAVE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ACTUALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE GAME ON ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW THE IT WAS ALSO THEY SAID NO SPECTATOR AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW I THINK I THINK IT'S FAIR TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION OF WHAT LIKE A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY WOULD BE SURE HOW MANY TRIPS THAT WOULD DO WE CAN WE CAN I THINK THAT WOULD BE WE CAN GENERATE A [00:30:05] REPORT LIKE THAT AND AND AS YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO PRACTICE IT WOULDN'T BE PEOPLE COMING TO WATCH THAT PRACTICE AND AND THEREFORE WE EXPECT THE NUMBERS TO BE SMALL BUT WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE SOMETHING FOR YOU TO REVIEW THAT. >> WILL YOU BE INCREASING WITH ALL THESE UPGRADES? WILL YOU BE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF CAMPERS PER YEAR? NO, THE NUMBER OF CAMPERS DOES NOT CHANGE. THIS IS JUST A SHIFT IN IN SPACE AND PROVIDING A BETTER RAINY DAY SPACE. YOU KNOW THE OTHER PIECE THAT I TOUCHED ON YOU KNOW SO CURRENTLY IN THIS AREA I DON'T THINK YOU COULD SHOW THE OVERALL SIGHT OF THE CAMP. SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE ROUGHLY 20,000FT2 OF TENTS THAT THAT ARE IN THIS AREA. SO THERE'S TWO LARGE TENTS AND THEN THERE'S ALL OF THOSE SMALLER BOYS TENTS. SO SO YES, WE'RE INCREASING BY 25,000FT2. BUT ALL OF THESE TENTS ARE REALLY QUITE PROBABLY UNSIGHTLY COMPARED TO I DON'T THINK AT LEAST I'M NOT QUESTIONING ANY OF THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC PUBLIC AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE OUT THERE AT THIS INITIAL THESE INITIAL STAGES THAT THE INTENT IS TO KEEP THE REGISTRATION FOR THE CAMP THE SAME SO THERE WON'T BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THAT AND THE SPORTS EVENTS ARE TEAMS PRACTICING SO THEY'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAFFIC WHICH YOU'LL DEFINE PER COMMISSIONER . DUQUESNE AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THE DIFFERENTIAL IDENTIFYING THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN WHAT IS NOW AND WHAT YOU PROJECT IT WILL BE JUST TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA SOME COMFORT LEVEL AND KNOWLEDGE ABILITY. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ON THAT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC WOULD IMPROVE SO SAY DURING RUSH HOUR DURING CAMP WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE BUSSES COMING WOULD THAT WOULD YOU WOULD THIS RESULT IN YOU KNOW, LESS TRAFFIC? YEAH I WOULD SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC YOU KNOW AS PART OF THIS PROPOSED FACILITY WE ARE PROPOSING UH AN IMPROVED PARKING FACILITY HERE THAT IS KIND OF FOCUSED PARTICULARLY ON THE ERGONOMICS OF GETTING TO THE FIELDHOUSE BUT THAT PROPOSED PARKING FACILITY IS ACTUALLY A MAJOR PARKING IMPROVEMENT OF 50% OF THE NET PARKING ON THE SITE. SO UH, THE OTHER PARKING FACILITY IS CURRENTLY IS A GRAVEL PARKING LOT THAT'S DOWN HERE UM, DOWN IN THIS AREA. SO BY VIRTUE OF, YOU KNOW, REDOING AND IN CREATING IN THE PARKING LOT THAT'S HERE CURRENTLY IS IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION BUT WE'RE BASICALLY UM CHANGING THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AND ALSO ADDING A A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF SPACES. SO I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW PATTERN AND THE RELATIONSHIP OF YOU KNOW THOSE RUSH HOUR PERIODS. UM I WOULD SAY ALSO JUST FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW THE THE CAMP IS EXHIBITS UH AN OBVIOUSLY AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC DURING THE PEAK PERIODS OF LIKE THE KIDS BEING DROPPED OFF ON THE BUSSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. >> UM YOU MEAN THE HIGHEST LEVEL THE HIGHEST NOT EXTREME THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF TRAFFIC THAT THE SITE AT THE SITE SEES IS LIKE ON THE IN THE IN THE BEGINNING OF A DAY YOU KNOW AND UM THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IS FAR LESS THAN THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE EXPERIENCED DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THE FIELDHOUSE WOULD BE IN OPERATION BECAUSE THAT'S MAYBE AN OPERATION ON A SATURDAY YOU KNOW I MEAN SO THE THE NET UM INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON A SATURDAY IS PALES IN COMPARISON TO THE THE PEAK DEMAND OF TRAFFIC. YEAH I THINK I THINK YOU SAID IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND I THINK THAT BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF CAMPERS IS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME THE NUMBER OF BUSSES AND THE TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT COULD ARRIVE TO DROP CAMPERS OFF IS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME. WE THINK THAT SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PARKING AREA MAY MAKE ACCESS IN AND OUT SMOOTHER AND WE'LL EVALUATE THAT FOR YOU. THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM FIELD HOUSE USE ON SATURDAYS OR IN THE EVENINGS IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON WHEN WHEN THE CAMPS IN OPERATION AND WE'LL PROVIDE SOME SENSE OF THAT ALSO WHEN WHEN WE COME BACK I DO HAVE A QUESTION. >> SO YOU MENTIONED EXTENDING OUTSIDE OF THE DAY CAN'T SO THOSE NIGHT HOURS, THOSE NIGHT EVENTS THAT YOU HAVE WHAT ABOUT THE SIGN SOUND BARRIER FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA? >> SO FROM A SOUND PERSPECTIVE THE YOU KNOW WE WILL ENSURE THAT THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND DESIGNING UH, YOU KNOW MEETS ALL REASONABLE SOUND [00:35:02] CRITERIA PARTICULARLY THE THE THE FACILITY YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REALLY HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE OF FACILITY FROM INSIDE THE FACILITY. SO RELATIVELY PROTECTED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE DOING IS YOU KNOW WHEN WE WERE HERE WITH THE IDEA OF HAVING A BUBBLE BUBBLES DON'T REALLY ACOUSTICALLY DAMPEN ANY SOUND RIGHT THE THE SOLID WALLS OF THIS FACILITY PARTICULARLY ON THE SIDE FACING THE RESIDENTS CAN BE ACOUSTICALLY DAMPENED IT'S GOING TO BE SOLID WALLS WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OR ELIMINATE ANY WINDOWS OR DOORS ON THAT SIDE OTHER THAN EMERGENCY EGRESS SORT OF DOORS. >> SO THE THE LOCATIONS WHERE SOUND MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET OUT WILL BE MINIMIZED. YEAH. AND WE'LL WILL PROVIDE INSULATION SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE SOUND ON THE SIDES THAT FACE ANY OF THE RESIDENTS. >> YEAH THERE IS THERE IS SPECIAL SPECIFIC SOUND INSULATION THAT CAN BE USED THAT IS GREATER THAN THE ORDINARY INSULATION SO THAT IT IS MORE SOUND DEADENING. HOW ABOUT THE FOLIAGE ON THAT SIDE OF THE CAMP WITH THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE AT A HIGHER ELEVATION? >> YEAH. SO HERE WE HAVE IT KIND OF JUST ORIENTING YOU TO THIS LINE OF SIGHT DIAGRAM. HERE'S WHY DON'T YOU GO WITH THE PHOTOS FIRST JUST WE CAN SEE THAT OH WELL THIS IS A KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WHERE THE THE PROPOSED FIELD HOUSE IS GOING TO BE HERE AND THIS IS A LINE OF SIGHT DIAGRAM LOOKING FROM THIS DIRECTION AND THIS IS A LINE OF SIGHT TO AND GRAHAM LOOKING FROM THIS DIRECTION. WE ALSO HAVE SOME FOLKS PARTICULARLY UM PHOTO 23 IS FROM THIS PORTION OF THE SITE LOOKING KIND OF ACROSS HERE AT THE FIELD HOUSE AND THIS IS 22 LOOKING AT THIS DIRECTION. THOSE ARE THE ONES I'LL CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY UM THIS IS TAKEN DURING A PERIOD OF NO FOLIAGE I THINK IT WAS TEN NO LEAVES JANUARY UM THE SPRING FIELD HOUSE WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE IN THIS AREA HERE SO AS YOU COULD SEE THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S A DENSE DENSE AMOUNT OF VEGETATIVE BUFFER CURRENTLY AND THIS IS LIKE FROM 22 WHICH IS A LITTLE HIGHER ELEVATION. THE FIELD HOUSES BUFFER EVEN MORE. >> WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK. COULD YOU GIVE A SENSE OF DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO WHERE THE FIELD HOUSE WOULD BE? YES. AND HOW MANY TREES WOULD YOU BE TAKING THOUGH? >> RELATIVELY FEW TO NONE. THE CURRENT AREA OF THE FIELD HOUSE IS BASICALLY HERE WHICH IS JUST A GRASS AREA WITH THE CURRENT TEN SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING INTO THE AREA THAT'S THAT'S WOODED RIGHT NOW MAJOR THE SQUARE I THINK THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE LIKE AN ELEVATION TWO IN THE WOOD AREA YEAH IT WAS JUST LIKE KIND OF AN ELEVATION VIEW HERE. SO LIKE IF THE FIELD HOUSE WAS BE BASICALLY LIKE KIND OF LIKE THIS UM THE FIELD HOUSE WOULD BE IN THIS GRASS AREA HERE. >> UM IF YOU GET APPROVAL WOULD YOU BE RECEPTIVE TO BUILDING THIS SIDEWALK AT YOUR EXPENSE? I KNOW TARRYTOWN ROAD BECAUSE AGAIN THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE WHO ARE GOING TO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WALK TO THE TO THE FACILITY AND TO THE CAMP. I WOULD HAVE TO LEARN HOW MUCH THE SIDEWALK IS. >> I THAT'S NOT THAT THAT THAT TO ME WOULD BE AND YOU KNOW, REALLY, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY FROM FROM HERE FROM YOU KNOW, HILLSIDE TO THE CAMP . I MEAN I'D LIKE TO SEE A SIDEWALK TO THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THE ONLY AREA NEAR THE PARKWAY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CROSSWALK AND I THINK THAT COUNTY MIGHT BE RECEPTIVE TO PUTTING A CROSSWALK IF WE GOT A SIDEWALK WHEN I WHEN I SPOKE REACHED OUT TO THE FORMER COUNTY EXECUTIVE, THE INDICATION WAS THAT THEY WOULDN'T DO THE CROSSWALK UNLESS THERE WAS A SIDEWALK. SO IF WE COULD GET THE SIDEWALK AND WE COULD RENEW OUR EFFORTS TO GET THE CROSSWALK, IT REALLY IS VERY DANGEROUS BECAUSE I BIKE ON OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD A FEW TIMES A WEEK AND I SEE A LOT OF BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS AND WE HAVE TWO FATALITIES AND OVER THE YEARS PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES OVER THE YEARS ON UH ON OLD HARRINGTON ROAD. SO IT'S A VERY COMPLEX INTERSECTION SO IT'S VERY HARD TO CREATE A CROSSWALK UM THAT WOULD SERVE THE PURPOSE THAT THE SUPERVISOR SUGGESTED. >> YEAH. SO I THINK THAT IS WHY THE COUNTY HAD TURNED IT DOWN AND AS FAR AS THIS HAVING A SIDEWALK IS CONCERNED I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT TO SEE IF THAT MAKES [00:40:01] SENSE FROM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE TO HAVE A SIDEWALK IS ESSENTIAL IN MY OPINION BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A MAJOR YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AND AND I FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING ON THE ROAD AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND ON YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST NEEDED SIDEWALKS AND YOU KNOW, IN THE TOWN AND YOU KNOW, WE COULD EVEN IF WE HAD EVEN A PARTNERSHIP JUST LIKE WE DID WITH METROPOLIS, WE'RE YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE SIDEWALK WAS PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER ON THIS VERY ROAD WHICH THEY DID. AND THEN THE OTHER HALF WE GOT A GRANT FROM UH, FORMER CONGRESSMAN MONDAIRE JONES TO BUILD THAT. YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BREAK IT UP BUT YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT A SIDEWALK IS CRITICAL FOR CLARIFICATION. >> CAN I JUST YEAH, FOR SOME CLARIFICATION. I WASN'T OBJECTING TO A SIDEWALK. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT IT MIGHT NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM AT THE BRONX FOR THE SITUATION BY METROPOLIS ALSO INCLUDED SCHOOLCHILDREN WHO WHO COMMUTED AND WALKED ALONG THAT AREA BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT I RECALL BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD WE DON'T HAVE ANY STUDENTS OR CAMPERS THAT USE OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD. THEY ARRIVE BY BUS. SO WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO HAVE THIS DIALOG WITH THE TOWN BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC NOR DO WE GENERATE MUCH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD THAT'S THAT'S EXISTING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. IF THE COUNTY WAS WILLING TO FUND IT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS WE'D CERTAINLY WORK WITH THEM TO PROVIDE THE LAND AREA TO MAKE IT WORK. BUT WE CANNOT FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT. YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BE RENTING YOU KNOW, SPACE YOU KNOW, FOR THE FOR THE USE OF THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THIS IS VERY POPULAR WHICH I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD BE THE YOUNG STUDENTS AND PEDESTRIANS FROM THE COMMUNITY WOULD WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INDOOR SPORTS ACTIVITIES SO THEY MAY WANT TO WALK TO UH UH THE FACILITY DURING YOU KNOW DURING THE YEAR WHEN WHEN IT COULD BE RENTED. YOU KNOW I, I DON'T SEE THAT UM THAT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO BE USED BY UH BUT RENTED BY BY THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY THE COMMUNITY RENTAL IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED PERIOD OF TIME FOR SORT OF LIKE A LEAGUE THAT IT SAYS OUR TEAM NEEDS TO PRACTICE ONCE EVERY WEEK AT THIS HOUR WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY HAVING ANY MEANINGFUL PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ON ALL TARRYTOWN ROAD AT ALL AND WE DON'T EXPECT THAT THE CAMP WILL GENERATE ANY ANY PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. >> THE LAST THING I'D SAYING THAT I'LL KEEP QUIET IS I SORT OF FEEL THAT WHEN YOU WHEN THERE'S A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW LIKE THE 45,000FT2 YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH ABOVE ALL YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO TO SELL IT TO THE COMMUNITY REQUIRES THAT THE COMMUNITY GET SOMETHING YOU KNOW BACK WHERE THEY COULD SAY EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT USING YOU KNOW THE FACILITY THEY MIGHT BUY IN. SO IF I COULD SAY TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE ADVANTAGES TO YOU, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY LIVES THEIR YOUR LIVES ON COUNTY CENTER ROAD AND I SAY OR I'M WINDING RIDGE AND YOU SAY LOOK, IF WE GOT THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET THAT'S GOING TO ENHANCE YOUR LIFE, THEN I THINK THAT YOU'LL GET A MUCH BETTER RESPONSE OR AT LEAST PEOPLE WILL BE MORE OPEN MINDED. SO IT'S LET ME LET ME JUST LET ME JUST COMMENT IF I CAN THAT THE FIELDS THAT ARE PROPOSED EXIST ON THE CAMP NOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO COVER THEM SO THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH SEVERE WEATHER AND HAVE THE CHILDREN BE PROTECTED WHEN DURING THE SUMMER IN ORDER TO FUND THAT SORT OF EXPENSE WHICH IS A MUCH BIGGER IMPROVEMENT FOR EVERYBODY THAN A BUBBLE WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TEMPORARY WAY TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION OF INCLEMENT WEATHER. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME REVENUE STREAM THAT HELPS TO FUND IT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO RENT IT OUT TO LOCAL TEAMS. IF LOCAL TEAMS END UP COSTING $800,000 AND SIDEWALKS FOR THE THE LONG DISTANCE THAT YOU'VE GOT, THIS WILL NOT BE A FEASIBLE PROJECT AND I KNOW THAT THE COSTS OF SIDEWALKS IS SIGNIFICANT SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BUT IF IF THE COST OF SIDEWALKS IS GOING TO KILL THE PROJECT THEN THE CAMP IS GOING TO BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL. ON PROTECTING THE CHILDREN FROM SAFETY ISSUES OF SEVERE STORMS AND THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE REASON FOR INVESTING HERE AND IN AN INSTITUTION THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE TOWN FOR ALMOST 100 YEARS. WILL IT ONLY BE RENTED OUT FOR FIELDS OR WILL YOU BE ALLOWING IT TO BE USED FOR WEDDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? NO, JUST JUST SPORTS NOT NOT LOOKING TO BE IN THE WEDDING BUSINESS IN TERMS OF LIKE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT. [00:45:04] WHAT I THINK WILL HELP THE PROCESS THE BEST IS IF THE APPLICANT COMES TO THE TABLE WITH A SET OF GUARDRAILS FOR THE TOWN BOARD'S CONSIDERATION LIKE I THINK YOU KNOW THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO READ THE FIELD OUT AT TWO IN THE MORNING. >> I THINK I WOULD NOT WANT THAT. SO YOU SUPPLY THE BOARD WITH A SET OF GUIDE RAILS YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A WEDDING VENUE. YOU KNOW SOME REASONABLE HOURS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WILL GIVE THE BOARD IN THE PUBLIC SOME COMFORT APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION ON THE SIDEWALKS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE SO I CAN CERTAINLY PUT YOU INTO CONTACT WITH OTHERS THAT HAVE HAD THIS AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT ON THE PRIVATE SIDE AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A SENSE LIKE PER LINEAR FOOT WHAT IT COSTS YOU HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE AND BY NO MEANS I MEAN THAT DOWN TO THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY CERTAINLY A TOWN OF GREENBURG ASPIRATION BUT NOT AN EXPECTATION OF THIS PROJECT YOU LIKE EITHER THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY TO HILLSIDE WHERE IT DROPS OFF AT MOST MAYBE TO THE INTERSECTION OF I THINK IT'S OLD KENT SCHOOL THAT'S IT'S GOT THE SAME AS WE DID THE COUNTY CENTER RIGHT HERE SO THE CONVERSATION IS GOOD. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR. YOU KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. I THINK SOME LOCAL YOUTH WORK AT THE CAMPUS I'M NOT MISTAKEN OR YEAH, I MEAN YES, THERE'S CERTAINLY LOCAL STAFF MEMBERS WHO AGAIN AS BILL CHAIR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS WALK TO CAMP AS WE PROVIDE BUS TRANSPORTATION FOR MANY STAFF AND MANY STAFF ACT AS THE BUS COUNSELORS ON THOSE BUSSES. SO AS BILL SAID, I DON'T THINK WE USE THE SIDEWALKS. I GUESS I WOULD CHAIR AND YOU KNOW WHERE I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE MEETINGS YOU KNOW IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH SPORT TIME AND WHERE THE BOARD AND AND AND AND MR. FINER YOU KNOW SHARED EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE TOWN HAVING A PREMIER TENNIS FACILITY I WOULD HOPE THAT THE SAME EXCITEMENT WOULD BE SHARED ABOUT THE TOWN HAVING A PREMIER SPORTS FACILITY WHERE YOU KNOW WE DON'T DO RACKET SPORTS ARE NOT LOOKING TO DO POTENTIALLY AT LEAST TENNIS IS A RACKET SPORT BUT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION FOR A TOWN SPORTS I KNOW WHEN MY SON PLAYED GREENBERG SOCCER THERE WAS ALWAYS A NEED FOR INDOOR SPACE. YOU KNOW THE SEASON WAS GOING TO START IN APRIL AND THEN IT'S AS WE WITNESSED THIS WEEK IT'S 32 DEGREES AND YOU KNOW THERE'S YEARS WHEN THE SNOW WAS STILL ON THE FIELDS AND AND THERE WASN'T ACCESS TO FACILITIES. SO I THINK THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED AND DESIRE FOR LOCAL FAMILIES WHO WANT TO SEE SPORTS YEAR ROUND AND TEAMS PRACTICE AND CERTAINLY AS KIDS GET OLDER THERE'S A GREATER DEMAND FOR YEAR ROUND TRAINING AS WELL AND THE SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE THAT FACILITY AVAILABLE. MY SON'S IN HIGH SCHOOL HE PLAYED YOU KNOW HE'S DOING TENNIS IN A MIDDLE SCHOOL GYM. I MEAN IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE SPORT TYPE PEOPLE. SO IT'S HOPEFULLY THAT SAME EXCITEMENT WOULD EXTEND TO TO THIS PROJECT. >> YEAH. GARRETT AND I WE HAD DISCUSSIONS YESTERDAY WITH SOME RESIDENTS OF THE INDIAN COMMUNITY WHO WANTED A CRICKET PITCH YOU KNOW AND I KNOW IT RICHARD YOU KNOW PRESIDENT PARK WE USE IT FOR CRICKET AND SOCCER. I MEAN IS THAT SO BECAUSE THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GREAT DEMAND. >> IT WAS INTERESTING THESE RESIDENTS INDICATED THAT LIKE IF THEY HAD A 24, 20,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY YOU KNOW, OF COURSE CRICKET IS OUTDOOR SPORT WITH LIKE MASSIVE FIELD BUT JUST FOR LIKE BATTING PURPOSES THEY SAID YOU KNOW, LIKE A RECREATION CENTER LIKE FACILITY THERE LIKE YOU KNOW, ANY LOCATIONS FOR THAT IT IS INTERESTING. >> SO THAT CAME ON THE BOARD YESTERDAY AGAIN NOT FOR SPECTATOR, NOT FOR SPECTATORS, NOT FOR TOURNAMENTS BUT JUST LIKE FOR PRACTICE THEY LITERALLY DON'T HAVE PLACES LIKE MANY AND THESE ARE LOCAL RESIDENTS. >> I JUST DON'T I I THINK THE TOWN SPENT YOU KNOW IT WAS A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS OR LESS AND THEN WE USE RICHARD PRINCE THE PARK FOR BOTH AND THERE'S LIKE A WAITING LIST FOR CRICKET AND IT'S ONE OF THESE AND YEAH THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND AND NOT NOT A LOT OF FIELD SPACE AND IT PROBABLY WOULD BE LIKE RENTED TO THEM THAT YOU KNOW YOU PROBABLY WOULD NEED A COUPLE DIFFERENT FACILITIES ALL OVER TO MEET THE DEMAND OKAY OKAY SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT OKAY SO WHEN DO YOU ENVISION REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS? >> WHAT REPRESENTATION PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC CAN I YOU KNOW WELL I THINK WHAT MR. SHEEN'S ASKING IS WOULD WE HAVE OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE WE COME IN TO THE TOWN BOARD AND AND WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THE BEST WAY TO INTRODUCE THIS BUT WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO THAT. I THINK IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE FOR US TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE RAISED THAT THEY'RE ALSO LIKELY TO RAISE BEFORE WE DO THAT OUTREACH. >> SO TO HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT OCCUR AT THE FACILITY, HOW MANY PEOPLE MIGHT ACTUALLY FIT ON THE FIELD IF YOU'RE [00:50:01] HAVING PRACTICE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW MANY CARS THAT MIGHT BE AN ANCHOR TO ACTUAL FACTS THAT WE ANTICIPATE IT WOULD BE SHOT RIGHT HERE MOST OF THE OPEN HOUSE FOR A NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS VERY HELPFUL AND WE COULD BE WE'D BE HAPPY TO GENERATE MAILING ADDRESSES. OKAY. NO I THINK I REMEMBER FOR SHOPRITE IT BROUGHT CONSIDERABLE DIALOG WITH THE NEIGHBORS. MOST OF THE TIME IT WAS DIALOG AND AND IT WAS HELPFUL IN IN ADJUSTING AND REFINING THE DESIGN OF THE SITE SO IT'S ALSO JUST IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT SORT OF FORUM SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A GIVE AND TAKE AND ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS. SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT SOME ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE RAISED ALREADY BEFORE WE INITIATE THAT. >> YEAH, I KNOW WHEN WE BUILT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WE HOSTED LIKE AN OPEN HOUSE WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE IN THE GYMNASIUM AND AND SOME FOOD AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS SO WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT TOGETHER SIMILAR EVENT. THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANKS. THIS IS REALLY FOR PEOPLE WATCHING THIS IS LIKE REALLY A FREE DISCUSSION. SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S FORMALLY PROPOSED AS OF YET AND THIS IS JUST TO GET INITIAL COMMENTS AND THEN THERE'LL BE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEN AFTER THAT THEN YOU'LL COME UP WITH A FORMAL, YOU KNOW, PROPOSAL. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IT PUTS IT ON EVERYBODY'S RADAR. MANY TIMES WE HEAR COMPLAINTS THAT BY THE TIME IT GETS TO THE PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY THE PLANS ARE FINALIZED. THEY'RE THEY'RE POLISHED AND IT'S HARD FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY HAVE MUCH INPUT. SO I THINK BY HAVING THESE THREE MEETINGS IT'S HELPFUL. >> YES. THANKS FOR FOR ACCOMMODATING US ON THE PRE-MEETING AND YOU KNOW WE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD CIVIL ENGINEERING DETAILS ON SIZE AND SCALE AND LOCATIONS BEFORE WE CAME IN. SO IT WASN'T JUST CONCEPTUAL BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE THIS ALONG SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FULLER DISCUSSIONS AND AND MORE DETAILS TO SHARE. >> OH THANK YOU BECAUSE IT WAS VERY THOROUGH AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR UNDERSTANDING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. >> I NEED SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE BACK OF A NAPKIN AND MUCH BETTER. MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU SO OKAY YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO, UH, THE WORK SESSION, THE AGENDA I MEAN, UM ,I AS YOU KNOW, I'M, UH, HOLDING OVER THE APPOINTMENT OF A PART TIME DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY ON A PROBATIONARY, UM, BASIS. I DON'T FEEL THAT, UM, ONE PERSON COULD DO TWO JOBS SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD OVER. AND I ALSO AM ASKING, UM, THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE LIKE A IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION AND TO ADVISE THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS BEING UH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS AND GIVE PEOPLE AT LEAST A MEETING TO TO COMMENT ON IT. UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD AND I WAS GOING TO ASK UH, YOU KNOW THE TOWN ATTORNEY THERE'S A PROVISION AND YOU KNOW I THINK I COPIED EVERYBODY EARLIER THAT INDICATES THAT UM, BEFORE ANYBODY PUTS ANYTHING ON A SOCIAL MEDIA SOCIAL UM ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THERE WOULD BE SOMEBODY FROM THE TOWN WHO WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS I DON'T WANT TO BE CENSORED AND YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT AS TOWN SUPERVISOR I SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POST ANYTHING I WANT. >> WELL, YOU CAN DO THAT ON YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL. THAT'S THAT'S YOUR PURVIEW AND YOUR PERSONAL TOWN NOW BUT IF YOU'RE POSTING ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT WHEN YOU'RE REPRESENTING EVERYONE ELSE IT'S FAIR TO HAVE SOME RESTRICTION ON THAT AND IF WE'RE POSTING ANYTHING WELL YOU HAVE THAT THAT RIGHT AS WELL SO ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND YOU KNOW SO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD KNOW IN ADVANCE WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT RESTRICTIONS ARE BECAUSE YOU KNOW I MEAN FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS YOU'VE BEEN LEAVING THINGS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE SAYING WE WANT THE STATE COMPTROLLER TO INVESTIGATE THE TOWN. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ME. I DON'T APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN POLITICIZING THE TOWN WEBSITE. IT'S BEEN VERY DAMAGING TO THE TOWN. >> I THINK YOUR ABILITY TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE YOU ARE YOU KNOW I MEAN THAT WOULD BE THE SAME DIALOG WITH YOU JUST SO I'M I'M I'M HOLDING THAT OVER. >> LET'S MOVE ON. SO YOU HOLDING OVER TO SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY THAT YOU KEPT ASKING FOR US TO HAVE WHAT THE [00:55:04] TOWN ATTORNEY YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE THE CORRECTED RIGHT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE IS THAT IS THAT THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT CLARITY I JUST I'M JUST I JUST WANT CLARITY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SO THAT'S WHAT I I MISS THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY HE WANTS TO HOLD OVER BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE CENSORED. >> YES. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BASICALLY ON THE TOWN AND THE TOWN BASICALLY DON'T FIRST OF ALL I DON'T POST TO A SOCIAL MEDIA POST. NO, NO. YOU'VE BEEN ASKING JOE YOU KNOW ,BECAUSE I'M HOLDING IT OVER SO SO AND WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M ASKING THE TOWN BOARD TO HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION THAT COULD BE AT TOMORROW'S MEETING WHERE YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT UM THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY AND THEN AFTER THEN WE COULD GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON IT. UM, YOU KNOW WE COULD HAVE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING WE COULD BASICALLY APPROVE IT APPROVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. BUT AGAIN I FEEL THAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO POST ON THE TOWN WEBSITE UM, ANYTHING THAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR BELIEVES IS IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN. I ALSO FEEL THAT IF THE TOWN BOARD WANTS TO POST ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POST WHAT YOU WANT ON ON THE TOWN AND NO ONE YOU KNOW SO YOUR POSTINGS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN THAT'S JUST WHEN ONE STARTS EXPRESSING PERSONAL OPINIONS THAT REP THAT CANNOT REPRESENT THE ENTIRE TOWN WHY DON'T YOU THEN YOU CAN TAKE THAT ONTO YOUR PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA THEN LET ME ASK A QUESTION LET ME MAY WANT BUT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T POST THINGS IN VIOLATION LIKE I CAN POST SOMETHING KNOWN TO NOT BE TRUE. WELL THEN YOU POSTED THE LETTER TO THE STATE CONTROLLER AND YOU'VE LEFT IT ON FOR THREE A COUPLE MANY, MANY WEEKS. IT'S VERY DAMAGING TO THE TOWN. IT'S IT BASICALLY IS IS HARMFUL TO OUR PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE BASICALLY ANYONE LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE SEES A LOT OF GARBAGE AND FALSE INFORMATION ON WHERE IT'S FROM. I'VE I'VE BASICALLY YOU COULD READ MY RESPONSE TO IT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT LET ME SAY I'M NOT GOING TO ALL I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT ANYONE ELSE HAS TO SAY. >> FIRST OF ALL, ONE FALSENESS IS THAT IT'S NOT ME AS TOWN SUPERVISOR MAKING BUDGETARY DECISIONS. IT'S ALL OF US. SO THE THING IS WE CANNOT BLAME ONE PERSON WHEN YOU AS LIAISON TO TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE MADE THE SAME DECISIONS AS AS I HAVE MAY MAKE OR I'M GOING TO MAKE A POINT YOU MADE THIS POINT OVER MANY TIMES IF I'M EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE POSTED TAKEN OFF AND YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK WE HAVE TO STOP AND GET THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. WELL, YOU RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ARBITRARY YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO POST THINGS THAT ARE FALSE. YOU'RE NOT ARE YOU SAYING THAT I THINK YOU ARE YOU SAYING THAT ARE YOU SAYING THAT OUR LETTER TO THE MOTIVATED EVEN PUTTING POLITICAL LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU DONATED INFORMATION THAT'S NOT TRUE AND AND BASICALLY I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO IF YOU REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY IS THAT ALL THESE PERSONAL ATTACKS WHETHER OR ANYTHING THAT'S YOU KNOW NEGATIVE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. SO BASICALLY IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S A TOWN EVENT, FINE IF YOU WANT TO SAY WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN, BUT I'M SORRY BUT THAT'S SO LET'S BE CLEAR. RIGHT? THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER. YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU WANT THE RIGHT TO POST ANYTHING YOU JUST NOW SAID THAT YOU JUST THIS WEBSITE OR THIS WHATEVER PAGE SHOULD BE USED TO POST ABOUT EVENTS AND STUFF THAT'S GOING ON NOT DISPARAGING TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND SALARIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT IT SHOULD BE RESTRICT IT AS AS THE TOWN ATTORNEY HAS PUT TOGETHER RESTRICTED TO THE EVENTS AND THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE TOWN THAT'S RELATIVE TO THE TOWN NOT MAKING COMMENTS IN A PERSONAL OPINIONS IT SHOULD BE ABOUT THE EVENTS. OKAY SO I'M I'M JUST WANT TO FINISH PLEASE SO WE CAN WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE TOWN TO SAY THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TOWN OF GREENBURG NOW I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON RECORD NO ONE IS SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T POST ON YOUR PERSONAL PAGE BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR PERSONAL OPINION. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOWN IT SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE RESOLVED. IT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR AS IT SHOULD BE FOR THE TOWN NOT JUST YOU. IF YOU WANT TO PULL SOMETHING ABOUT YOU AND WHAT YOU DO AS A SUPERVISOR ON FINA'S FACEBOOK PAGE OR FACEBOOK PAGE, FINE. BUT WE'RE SAYING HERE AND WITH THIS SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY WHICH WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN QUESTING FOR AND ASKING FOR AND YOU'VE BEEN GETTING ON THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR AND REQUESTING AND [01:00:02] SO HAS AND SO HAS RESIDENTS WHERE IS THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY WHICH I GUESS I'M KIND OF TAKEN ABACK THAT NOW YOU WANT TO HOLD IT OVER. I FEEL THAT AGAIN AS WE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY AND IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT THIS POLICY SHOULD BE THIS POLICY SHOULD BE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE TOWN, THE EVENTS THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN . GREENBURG NOT YOUR PERSONAL PAINS NOW AGAIN, NO ONE'S TELLING YOU THAT YOU CANNOT POST ON YOUR PERSONAL PAGE WITH THIS JUST LIKE WE CAN'T JUST POST WE HAVE TO GET CLEARANCE TO POST ON OUR ORGANIZATIONS PAGE. OKAY YOU CAN JUST NILLY LET ME ASK A QUESTION IF I DON'T HOLD IT OVER WILL THE TOWN BOARD REMOVE THE NO, NO, NO, NO BECAUSE LET ME SAY SOMETHING. >> THE LETTER TO THE STATE CONTROL NO, NO, NO. I'M SAYING BASICALLY I'M SORRY. LET LET ME SAY SOMETHING. THERE'S A FEW OPINIONS THE FOR EVERYTHING ABOUT THE FORENSIC AUDIT IS IS BASICALLY VERY DAMAGING TO THE TOWN OR PROPERTY VALUES. IT'S CREATING A REALLY BAD IMAGE OF THE TOWN. IT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE WEBSITE EITHER COMMENTS I MAKE OR COMMENTS THAT THE BOARD MAKES. I KNOW THE BOARD AND I HAVE HAD DISAGREEMENTS ON YOU KNOW I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS BEING GIVEN TWO JOBS THAT COULD ALSO BE TAKEN OFF THE WEBSITE. THE TOWN WEBSITE BUT WE CAN'T REMOVE WHAT YOU PUT ON BUT WE CAN REMOVE ALL THIS INFORMATION THE DAMAGING INFORMATION YOU HAVE DONE ON THE WEBSITE. YES. YOUR QUESTION? WELL ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I BASICALLY FEEL THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CRITERIA WHICH I COULD I DON'T WANT PEOPLE LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE LIKE THEY'VE BEEN DOING NOW AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO AROUND THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE ARE LIKE SO DISGUSTED WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND PEOPLE ARE BASICALLY SO DISGUSTED BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT EVERYBODY WE'RE USING THE WEBSITE FOR YOU. IT'S BASICALLY YOU KNOW ONE AGAINST THE OTHER. IT BASICALLY IT'S AN IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT. IT'S A TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT TO TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THE THING IS I'M SAYING THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO IF THE BOARD WANTS TO SAY THAT THE SOCIAL POLICY IS YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HAVING A JUNETEENTH EVENT HIGHLIGHT THAT IF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS DOING SOMETHING GREAT, IF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WANTS TO HIGHLIGHT THE PERMIT PROCESS OR HOW TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM THAT'S GREAT. SO IF WE ALL WOULD AGREE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, NOBODY'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE IF THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENTS ON THE TOWN BOARD THAT THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE REMOVED THEN I WOULD I WOULD AGREE I WOULD AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THAT WOULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE TOWN. >> MAY I MAY I SPEAK NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT THE I PERCEIVE THE FORENSIC REPORT AS NOT DAMAGING TO THE TOWN. I PERCEIVE IT AS THE TOWN ENGAGING IN HONEST WORK AND HONEST LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND AND THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE ARE LOOKING AT WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS THAT NEED RESOLUTION. OUR REQUEST TO HAVE THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE LOOK FURTHER INTO IT IS BECAUSE THAT WAS ONLY A SNAPSHOT NOT COMPLETE AND WE DO NEED TO HAVE A BETTER BECAUSE THERE'S NEVER BEEN A LONG TERM PLAN. THERE'S NEVER BEEN A CLEAR LOOK AT THE OUTCOMES OF SOME OF THE STEPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN EVEN THOUGH I THINK EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON HAS BEEN SAYING ASKING FOR A FIVE YEAR PLAN. SO YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS I THINK IF YOU CONTINUE TO PROJECT IT AS NEGATIVE THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BELIEVE THAT. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE PERCEIVING IT AS NEGATIVE BECAUSE EVEN BECAUSE BECAUSE NOTHING I THINK IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD IF YOU HAVE ARE YOU DIDN'T I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. OKAY. AND SO LET'S IF YOU KEEP PROJECTING IT AS NEGATIVE THEN THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO WILL PERCEIVE IT AS NEGATIVE AND AND THERE ARE MANY TIMES THAT YOU HAVEN'T LIKED THINGS IN THE PAST. YOU'VE CALLED PEOPLE LIARS WHENEVER YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING AND YOU'VE DONE IT YOU'VE DONE IT IN PUBLIC SESSION. YOU'VE DONE IT IN PRIVATE SESSION WHENEVER YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S BEING SAID, YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING. YOU CALL THEM A LIAR. THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM A LIAR. THAT MAY THEY MAY BE TRUTH TELLERS. YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE THE THE NEGATIVE WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS [01:05:02] NEGATIVE SO THAT YOU TURN IT AROUND ON THEM AND BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. AND THAT MY FRIEND IS NOT A VERY NICE THING TO DO AND NOR IS IT PROFESSIONAL AND WELL ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT I THINK TODAY UM COUNCILMAN CHEYENNE AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE GUY SOMETHING ABOUT IT GREENBURG TOWN COUNCIL CLARIFIES TERMS AND ADDRESSES TERMS AND AND REGARDING THE INDEPENDENT FORENSIC REPORT YOU KNOW OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE TOWN IT'S JUST PERSONAL POLITICAL ATTACKS AGAINST ME WELL YOU'RE PERCEIVING IT. >> YOU SAID WELL HE'S REFERRING TO ME SO YOU SAID OVER HERE IN RECENT YEARS THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE AND THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE HOW TO MOVE STEP AND BY NECESSITY DUE TO THE SUPERVISOR SUPERVISOR FINA'S INABILITY AND FAILURE TO PERFORM HIS ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES AS WELL AS HIS LACK OF INVOLVEMENT AND OVERSIGHT AND DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS I YOU POSTED THAT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE THAT BASICALLY IS NOT FACTUAL. I I I'VE I'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF MANAGING THE TOWN OVER THE YEARS. I'M PROUD OF THE OPERATIONS AND WHEN I BASICALLY TALK ABOUT MISMANAGEMENT WHICH IS BASICALLY GIVING ONE PERSON TWO JOBS THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IS THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS A DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR IS GOING TO BE THE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO DO TWO JOBS AND THIS TOWN YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT I TRY TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND YOU SPENT YOU TALKING ABOUT FISCAL MISMANAGEMENT AND GIVING SOMEBODY $263,000 A YEAR WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HEADS ON WANT MORE MONEY? >> YOU ALSO YOU'RE RIPPING THE TAXPAYERS ARE BEING RIPPED OFF AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SEE SERVICES DECLINE IN THE TOWN AND I'M AND EVERY TIME I TRY DOING SOMETHING TO TIGHTEN UP THE WAY THE TOWN'S MANAGED, YOU DON'T LET ME DO IT. AND YOU KNOW THE THING IS IF YOU IF YOU BASICALLY IF I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND I HAVE POWER THEN I'M REJECTING BOTH POSITIONS IF I DON'T HAVE THE POWER AND IT'S THE TOWN BOARD'S DECISION, THEN EVERYBODY HAS TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVERY ASPECT OF THE OF THE TOWN MATTER MANAGEMENT. SO THE THING IS YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME THE ABILITY TO HIRE FIRE DISCIPLINED PEOPLE ON OR VETO. YEAH AND YOU'RE SAYING EVERYTHING HAS TO GO THROUGH THE TOWN BOARD SO YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING THIS FORENSIC AUDIT IS THAT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAS TO ASSUME FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVERY ACTION. >> SO WE ARE NOT THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. >> I DON'T HAVE I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF WITHOUT POWER NOW IT'S AMAZING HOW AND I'M GOING TO ALLOW HIM BUT JUST IT'S JUST SAD JUST REALLY QUICKLY, IT'S AMAZING HOW YOU THREATEN AN INVESTIGATION. CONTACTED A CHIEF OF POLICE WHEN YOU THOUGHT THE FORENSIC AUDIT WAS TAKEN DOWN I'M SORRY REPORT WAS TAKEN DOWN SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE YOU WANT. >> DO YOU WANT IT ON YOU WANT IT UP WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU LITERALLY WE HAD THE EMAIL YOU CONTACTED THE POLICE THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO DO AN INVESTIGATION FOR SOMEONE TAKING IT DOWN WHEN EMPLOYEES EXPLAIN TO YOU THE PROCESS OF HOW THINGS FALL ON ON THE WEBSITE SO I'M JUST I WASN'T CALLING THE POLICE ABOUT THE FORENSIC REPORT. IT WAS THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS. OH, THE CORRECTIONS SORRY. >> SAME THING THAT IT WAS MY APOLOGIES BUT YOU BUT WHY CALL AN INVESTIGATION? WHY CALL AN INVESTIGATION? FIND OUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? BECAUSE LET ME KNOW AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE DONE BECAUSE I WANTED TO SPEAK RIGHT OUT. SO WE'D LIKE TO GO HOME NOW BECAUSE YOU CONTINUE TO WATCH UPSETTING ME IS THAT I HAD ON WANTED TO YOU KNOW, I WANTED THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN POSTED RIGHT NEXT TO THE UM THE PARAGRAPHS OF THE TOWN BOARD SENT SAYING WE WANT THE STATE COMPTROLLER TO ADDRESS THE FORENSIC REPORT ISSUES AND WE PUT THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN UP. IT WAS TAKEN DOWN UM FOUR TIMES IT WAS REMOVED OR DISAPPEARED NOT NOT TAKEN DOWN. BUT YOU EXPLAIN LET ME SAY SOMETHING AND THEN I SAID I SAID THAT IT SHOULD BE BASICALLY RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR YOUR POSTINGS AND YOUR POSTINGS NEVER YOU KNOW, NEVER CHANGED YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALWAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HOME PAGE, THE NEWS NEWS REPORTS. SO I PERSONALLY THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY INTENTIONALLY WAS WAS REMOVING IT NOW THEN I SPOKE TO JOE LUCCHESE AND HE PUT IT ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE REALLY IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A [01:10:01] SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY WHICH I THINK IS GOOD AND WE WANT GOING FORWARD FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE TOWN THEN WE SHOULD ALL AGREE THAT UM, YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ME DO IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA BUT NOT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE IF I WANT TO SAY NO COMMENT IT SHOULD BE IF I SHOULD REMOVE IT IMMEDIATELY EFFECTIVE TOMORROW IF WE HAVE A VOTE WE SHOULD BASICALLY TELL JOE LUCCHESE IT'S OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. EVERYTHING THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS PERSONAL SO SOMETHING REMOVED I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY BECAUSE I'D LIKE I WANT FRANCIS OF COURSE TO EXPLAIN BUT YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS THAT AFTER 35 YEARS AND HOWEVER LONG THE INTERNET AND HOWEVER LONG WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD OUR WEBSITE IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS THEN YOU KNOW THAT'S ON YOU. >> I KNEW IT. SO YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY FOR ANYONE USING IT BUT YOU DID IT. >> YOU DIDN'T AND TWO PEOPLE HAD TO COME TO YOU HAD TO EXPLAIN TO YOU BACK PAGE SIX I CAN HAVE EMAILS. I CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH. THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT IS TRUE BECAUSE YOU WROTE IT. >> LET ME JUST LET ME SAY SOMETHING. I BASICALLY ALL I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW I THINK GOING FORWARD I'M SAYING TO THE BOARD IF WE COULD ALL AGREE THAT WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN IS REMOVED IS REMOVED FROM THE WEBSITE AND THE WEBSITE IS ONLY GOING TO BE USED FOR UM TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE THINGS OR INFORMATION AND THAT'S NOT TRANSPARENCY. SO FOR EXAMPLE WHEN WE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CAMP TODAY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE BUT THEN I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT THEN THAT MEANS WE SET A TOWN ON HE DOES GREAT THINGS SO WE SHOULDN'T WE SHOULD KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BE TRANSPARENT, RIGHT? >> YOU SAY IT ALL THE TIME SO WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO SEE WHAT THE TOWN IS DOING AS A WHOLE? >> NO, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ALL I'M SAYING IS IF I BELIEVE THE HIDING WELL BECAUSE THE FORENSIC REPORT I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY MENTIONED IT EVERY WEEK IT'S BEEN ON THE WEBSITE. YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCH SO EMBARRASSING TO LOOK AT THE TOWN WEBSITE RIGHT NOW WE PROBABLY HAVE THE WORST WEBSITE IN IN THE UNITED STATES OR ONE OF THE WORST ONES BECAUSE BASICALLY ALL WE'RE DOING IS YOU KNOW, IT'S I'M SAYING THINGS YOU'RE SAYING THINGS PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT PEOPLE BASICALLY WANT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE NEGATIVITY. THEY WANT TO SEE POSITIVE THINGS. SO I THINK THAT I THINK WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. >> CAN I CAN WE HEAR FROM THE BOARD? >> CAN WE HEAR FROM FRANCIS PLEASE? >> YOU HAD UP ON THE HOME PAGE FOR NINE MONTHS. I THINK IT WAS LONGER BUT I KNOW IT WAS NINE MONTHS HOW YOU WERE FIGHTING EDGEMONT AT ATTEMPT TO INCORPORATE AND YOU LEFT THAT UP ON THE TOWN WEB PAGE TO SHOW YOU'RE A FIGHTER FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA AND YOU DIDN'T SAY SQUAT ABOUT HEY THAT'S UP THERE IN MY MIND AND YOU KEPT IT AT THE TOP FOR NINE MONTHS AND NOW YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE WE HAVE A SERIOUS FINANCIAL ISSUE IN THIS TOWN BUT YOU DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW ABOUT IT. YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE FORENSIC AUDIT I INITIATED THE REST OF THE TOWN BOARD VOTED FOR IT. YOU VOTED AGAINST IT. WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE $100 MILLION SHORTFALL. WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO HIDE IT. YOU WOULD NOT VOTE FOR THAT. YOU WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THAT FORENSIC REPORT. NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FORENSIC REPORT, YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO HIDE IT. YOU FOUR TIMES KNOCKED THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS OFF OF THE WEBSITE AND I'M SURPRISED A SUPERVISOR FOR 35 YEARS DON'T UNDERSTAND I DID NOT INTERRUPT YOU SUPERVISOR FOR 35 YEARS DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE WEBSITE WORKS WHEN YOU POST TO IT EVERY DAY EVERY TIME YOU POST YOU SHIFT EVERYTHING DOWN AND YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANYTHING YOU COULD, EVERYTHING YOU COULD. NOW IT'S NEPOTISM. NOW IT'S HEALTH CARE BUYOUT, IT'S WHATEVER YOU CAN POST TO TRY AND MOVE THINGS DOWN. BUT I GUESS YOU WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION WHEN WE EXPANDED THAT NEWSFLASH FROM 7 TO 9 SO THAT THE FORENSIC AUDIT AND THE CLARIFICATION AND I'LL I'LL READ FROM THAT CLARIFICATION THING IN A MOMENT COULD STAY THERE BECAUSE WE'RE SHOWING WE'RE TRANSPARENT. WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE'RE TAKING ACTION TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT SHOULD BE IN OUR COFFERS APPARENTLY IS 114 MILLION. BUT LET'S ROUND IT TO 100 MILLION NOW IT SHOULD BE IN OUR COFFERS BUT IT'S NOT. AND SO WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE WE HAD A PROBLEM. WE ARE ADDRESSING THE FOUR OF [01:15:03] US. WE'RE ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM HEAD ON. WE WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND WE ARE NOT JUST SITTING BY AND LETTING THIS $100 MILLION BE SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES ON IN YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET IN THE FALL OCTOBER YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE STATUS QUO AND PUT US EVEN FURTHER IN A FINANCIAL HOLE AND YOU PUT OUT YOUR CORRECTION OR YOUR REBUTTAL TO THE FORENSIC REPORT BASED TOTALLY ON FALSE INFORMATION. >> I DID NOT CALL THE AUDITORS AND SAY TAKE OUT A SENTENCE WHICH YOU IMPLY I DID WHEN I POST SOMETHING WHEN WE AS A COUNCIL POST SOMETHING WE CHECK IT, WE CHECK IT AND WE FACT CHECK IT YOU I BELIEVE I THINK I DON'T KNOW IT MAY BE RIGHT. >> THAT'S THE DISTINCTION YOU ARE OPPOSED TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY BECAUSE IT SAYS YOU CAN'T POST KNOWINGLY FALSE INFORMATION. I TOLD YOU THAT MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON THAT YOU POSTED THAT THING ABOUT THE SENTENCE COMING OUT I TOLD YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. IT WAS THE TOWN COMPTROLLER WHO RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS AN OPINION AND THE DOCUMENT THAT THEY SAID WHAT SAID WOULD NOT HAVE OPINIONS AND SHE NOTIFIED ME AND SHE NOTIFIED THE AUDITORS AND THEY SAID YES, IT'S INCONSISTENT WHAT WE PUT ON THE FIRST PAGE. WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO PUT ANY OPINIONS IN THERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ANY OPINIONS AND WHERE WERE WE GOING TO GET THE OPINIONS FROM THE STATE COMPTROLLER. SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN AND THERE'S AND THERE IS SERIOUS ISSUES SERIOUS ISSUES IN THIS TOWN. >> HE DIDN'T SAY THE WORD LIAR. >> HE JUST IMPLIED IT. WELL, YES. SO I THINK YOU'RE LYING. SO YOU THINK I'M LYING? >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BASED ON THINGS THAT ARE ON YEAH. WELL, NO, NO, NO. I'M SORRY. LET ME FINISH. YOU REFERRED TO A DOCUMENT THAT I DIDN'T POST TODAY. I POSTED IT A WHILE AGO AND IT'S ACTUALLY SIGNED BY I THINK SO SIGNED BY THE ENTIRE TOWN COUNCIL. >> AND RATHER THAN DO THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU WHERE YOU MAKE STUFF UP AND THEN WE HAVE TO REPLY WE PUT OUT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT THE STATEMENT IS AND THEN WE RESPOND TO IT ALL IN ONE DOCUMENT FOR EXAMPLE YOU READ FROM IT YOU SAID THE HEADING IS SUPERVISOR OR STATES THAT THERE ARE NO SURPRISES IN THE FORENSIC REPORT. >> MATTER OF FACT YOU'VE EVEN CALLED IT A WASTE OF $72,000. >> NOW WE PUT IN A MARCH ONE 2026 NEW YORK POST INTERVIEW SUPERVISOR FIND OR MINIMIZE THE FORENSIC REPORT FINDINGS BY STATING QUOTE YOUR QUOTE THERE WERE NO SURPRISE FINDINGS IN THE AUDIT CLOSE QUOTE AS PREVIOUSLY STATED THE TOWN COMPTROLLER ESTIMATES THERE IS APPROXIMATELY $100 MILLION SHORTFALL IN OUR COFFERS ACCORDING TO YOUR POST INTERVIEW SUPERVISOR FIND KNEW ABOUT IT AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. >> IF THERE WERE NO SURPRISES WHY DIDN'T YOU START TO ADDRESS THIS YEARS AGO? NEXT IT SAYS SUPERVISOR FINER STATES. THERE'S THE FORENSIC REPORT IS BEING POLITICIZED. YOU DO THIS A LOT. THE RESPONSE IS SUPERVISOR FEINER ALSO CALLED THE FORENSIC REPORT'S FINDINGS POLITICIZED BECAUSE IT HAS AN OPPONENT AND YOU IDENTIFY THEM BY NAME. SO SO DID WE ARTFULLY TRUSTY BARRY MCGAUGHEY ESQUIRE HOWEVER, BARRY MCGAUGHEY DECLARED HIS CANDIDACY RUNNING FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR DECEMBER 2025. REMEMBER THAT DATE DECEMBER 20TH, 25, SIX YEARS PRIOR TO THE FORENSIC INVESTIGATION BEING MONTHS BEING COMPLETED AND I CALLED FOR THIS AND THIS FORENSIC REPORT IN JANUARY OF 2025. SO THE JANUARY 2025 DECEMBER 25TH WAS WELL BEFORE THERE WAS ANY POLITICS THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REPORT. BUT YOU CALL IT THE POLITICAL ONLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CHALLENGER RIGHT? >> WE GO ON I JUST I'M JUST GOING TO READ WHAT WE THE HEADING DOWN COUNCIL CALLS FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT MORE THAN A YEAR AGO THAT WAS WHAT I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE. THERE'S EMAIL DOCUMENTATION I CAN PROVE WE CAN PROVE WHENEVER WE PUT SOMETHING WE CAN DOCUMENT IT AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY DOCUMENT. >> CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER VERSUS TOWN BOARD LIAISON. BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO BELIEFS AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO [01:20:02] GET AT HERE PAUL, IS THAT WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE FORENSIC REPORT IS POLITICIZED OR WHAT THE POSTINGS ARE A POLITICIZED I ASKED YOU AGAIN IS IT POLITICAL THAT THERE IS $29,000,390,813 IN DELINQUENT TAXES? IS THAT POLITICAL? THAT'S A TRAVESTY. >> WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT. THERE'S THREE MILLION $99,679 IN WATER RATE DELINQUENCIES NOT PICKED UP, NOT COLLECTED. >> THERE'S 32,082,760 COURTHOUSE MONEYS THAT WE ALL KNOW IS GONE AND I CAN GO ON AND ON AND THE ACTUAL TOTAL BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT BEING $100 MILLION FACTUALLY $109,000,119 MILLION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BUT WE DON'T BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN COLLECTING MONEY. SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU KNOW THERE'S THINGS ON THERE, THERE'S THINGS HERE, THERE'S THINGS THERE I BELIEVE I DON'T BELIEVE WE DON'T ACT THAT WAY FRANKLY. THERE'S FOUR OF US. WE WORK VERY COOPERATIVELY. WE WORK VERY COOPERATIVELY WITH TOWN STAFF, MANY OF WHOM YOU ABUSE AND IT'S REALLY TROUBLING FOR ME TO HAVE YOU MEETING AFTER MEETING AND YOU DID IT AGAIN TODAY TAKE WHAT WAS A NICE EASYGOING MEETING AND TURN IT INTO A FIGHT SO THAT YOU CAN SAY OH, YOU KNOW THEY'RE AGAINST ME, THEY'RE AGAINST ME, I'M NOT AGAINST YOU. I'M AGAINST YOU NOT DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS SUPERVISOR AND AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND I KNOW IT FRUSTRATES YOU THAT THERE'S A FORENSIC REPORT THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT THAT WE DID BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET TO THE TRUTH OF IT AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT AND WE HAVE A FANTASTIC COMPTROLLER WHO YOU ABUSE BUT IT HAS THE COMPTROLLER WHO IS GOING TO HELP US WORK THROUGH THESE DIFFICULTIES. >> WE'LL NEVER COLLECT ALL THAT MONEY. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT A FRACTION OF THAT MONEY. MOST MANY MUCH OF IT IS GONE. I MOST BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST WORKING COOPERATIVELY AND REALLY GREAT REALLY GREAT IF YOU WOULD WORK WITH US INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY PICKING FIGHTS WITH US AND ANY TOPIC YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE JUST TO SHOW HEY LOOK, YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GETTING ALONG WHERE WE'RE GETTING ALONG. WE'RE GETTING ALONG WITH STAFF AND WE JOIN HELP. WE HOPE THAT YOU JOIN US IN WORKING TOGETHER AND DOING THAT AND BY PICKING ON A WEBSITE AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A FORENSIC REPORT OR NOT, YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. OKAY. WELL IN SUMMARY, I'M NOT GOING TO RESPOND BUT IN SUMMARY WHAT MY SUGGESTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD WITH A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE TOWN IF WE WOULD LEAVE ALL PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE OFF THE SITE. NOW IF WE COULD AGREE THAT EVERY ANYTHING THAT IS NEGATIVE ABOUT THE TOWN WILL NOT BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE WE COULD ONLY USE THE TOWN WEBSITE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY THEN I WILL NOT AND YOU KNOW IF THAT EVERYTHING IS REMOVED THAT ANYBODY THINKS IS NEGATIVE YOU KNOW I COULD BASICALLY SAY WHATEVER I WANT AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING OR I COULD USE MY OWN SOCIAL MEDIA JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE COULD DO. BUT MY FEELING IS I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A POSITIVE FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE BASICALLY THEN WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT THE WEBSITE IT WON'T LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW WHERE I DON'T WANT NEW ROAD POTENTIALLY NEW RESIDENTS AND NEW BUSINESSES TO LOOK AT THE WEBSITE AND GET TURNED OFF AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER MOVING HERE BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND ALL EVERYBODY'S DOING IS FIGHTING. >> SO LET'S LET'S MAKE WHITEWASHING HISTORY. WELL I THINK WE JUST NEED IDEAS. WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE AGENDA BECAUSE ALL I REALLY NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS TOMORROW WHEN I COME BACK NO WELL LET ME THINK. SHALL WE GET TO THE NO, LET ME SAY SOMETHING. TODAY'S A NEW DAY. >> TODAY'S DAY? YES. SO WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE SCHEDULE. >> SO I'M SAYING ON THE SOCIAL DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AGENDA? >> SO I'M ASKING I'M ASKING THE BOARD WITH EVERYBODY AGREE? NO, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. I'LL CALL YOU CAN'T UNRING THE BELL. >> YOU HAVE SO BADLY MALIGNED OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND OUR DPW DEPARTMENT HAVE A RIGHT TO DISAGREE AND YOU COULD YOU CAN DISAGREE BUT YOU CAN'T DISAGREE WITH THE FACTS. >> THE FACTS THE FACTS ARE WHEN YOU KEEP SAYING HE HAS TWO JOBS AND HE'S GETTING $269,000 FOR THE TWO JOBS AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UPSET THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE UPSET BECAUSE [01:25:03] THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE WORKING 80 HOURS A WEEK WHICH HE HAS DOCUMENTED. HE'S WORKING 80 HOURS A WEEK. HE'S DOING HE'S DOING TWO FULL TIME JOBS AND HE'S NOT HE'S SAVING THE TOWN 150 $7,000. >> WELL, IF WE MAKE 150 MORE 150 NO, YOU JUST OPPOSE HIM BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. >> NO, BECAUSE YOU GOT SO USED TO HAVING PEOPLE DO THINGS THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED, YOU KNOW AND HE'S NOT GOING TO DO AGAIN. >> YEA BUT IT'S DOCUMENTED YOU ADMITTED IT YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU ASKED PEOPLE TO FILE PRIVATE ROADS. >> YOU HAVE THE EMAILS. I HAVE AN EMAIL I COULD PULL IT UP RIGHT NOW OF YOU SAYING WE SHOULD BE PLOWING A PRIVATE ROAD BECAUSE BASICALLY IT'S ILLEGAL. FIRST OF ALL HE'S NOT GOING TO DO IT AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE AGAINST HIM. >> WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN ON CERTAIN ROADS. THE POLICY WAS FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE A LONG ROAD. WE GET A LETTER FROM THE FIRE CHIEF SAYING THAT THEY NEED EMERGENCY ACCESS, YOU KNOW, TO THE ROAD IF SOMEBODY, GOD FORBID HAS A HEART ATTACK AND IT SNOWS THEY'VE ASKED US IN THE PAST I REALLY THINK THIS IS I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO REVIEW . >> WE NEED TO MOVE ON. THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH NOW NOW WE HAVE HEARD AS WE THE LONGEST I'VE EVER HEARD SOMEBODY SAY THAT THIS IS GOING ON IS 30 YEARS AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN OFFICE? >> 34. >> IT STARTED WITH SIX 34. CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON? I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING BECAUSE IT'S IT'S IN THERE. WE KNOW FOR A FACT THERE ARE 15 PRIVATE ROADS THAT ALL OF US AS TAXPAYERS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERGER ARE NOW PAYING TO PAVE AND PLOW BECAUSE OF YOUR GENEROSITY AND ALLOWING SANITATION PEOPLES TO GO YOUR WAY AND THOSE PRICES RATHER THAN ON THOSE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER I KNOW YOU DO THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE SECRET MEETINGS EVERY FRIDAY THAT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND. SO SO SO SO CUT IT OUT. YOU'RE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL YOU'RE THE MOST DETAILED ORIENTED MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD. >> YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. YOU BELIEVE WHAT I'M SAYING? NO. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND YOU AND YOU HAVE TO AND BASICALLY I AGREE YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM DECISIONS THAT YOU'VE MADE. >> WE REALLY NEED TO DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DECISION I MADE WAS TO CALL FOR FORENSIC AUDIT BECAUSE I FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND I DID THAT WHEN WE HAD A NEW COMPTROLLER. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? OKAY. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE AGENDA PLEASE? I JUST LIKE TO MAKE ONE BRIEF STATEMENT BEFORE TO SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY WAS WAS HELD OVER UM IT WAS ALSO SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE A NOT HOLD OVER THE APPOINTMENT A PART TIME DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY I'M HOPING THAT'S VOTED ON IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT. IT COULD BE VOTED ON THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I AM VERY CONFIDENT IN MY DECISION AND AND I'M GIVING THAT TO IF IF IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT MEETING WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS SECOND INSPECTION REPORT ON NEXT WEEK AND I'M ASKING FOR INSPECTION REPORTS. >> I WANT TO WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE APPOINTMENT? >> YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T WANT THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR TO BE ALSO DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY WHEN I FEEL AS WELL. >> YES. YOU THINK YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST IT? I'M DOING THE JOB BUT I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. SHE'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING INSPECTOR FOR HER FULL TIME JOBS AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE THE THE PART TIME TOWN ATTORNEY. IT'S NOT AT THE SAME TIME YOU KEEP PLAYING THIS AS TWO POSITIONS LIKE IT'S IF IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE SAME TIME THREE VACANCIES AND YOU ARE OPPOSED TO HER BECAUSE SHE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING AND THEY'RE SHORT THERE'S A MAJOR SHORTAGE IN THE CORRECTED THAT THERE'S THREE VACANCIES NO NO NO THAT'S CORRECT IT SO CAN WE NOW WE WANT NO AGENDA BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO THIS ONE SO COULD YOU TELL ME WHO IT WHEN THE WHEN ALL THE COURT OFFICE CAN WE PLEASE NOT NAME BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE BIG NAME I DON'T DO THAT I'M SAYING FOR EVERY SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT COULD WELL YOU DON'T IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE NAMES AND YOU'RE THE CHIEF AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL I KNOW YOU HAVE REPEATED AT LEAST SAID THERE'S ONLY ONE REPORT HAVE YOU REPEATEDLY SAID THERE'S ONLY ONE INSPECTOR IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT? >> I SAID ONE INSPECTOR, OTHER OTHER THAN LIZ RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE LIZ, YOU HAVE FRANK. >> NOT NOW. NOW YOU'RE UP TO TWO. NOW YOU'RE UP TO TWO. TWO. BUT THEY BASICALLY BOTH HAVE SECOND JOBS AND THEN THERE'S FOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> THERE'S FOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN THE 30 FIVE YEARS AND YOU DON'T KNOW IS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. TELL US WHERE WE ARE ON ON ON THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO ALSO LET YOU KNOW ALREADY HURRY. I KNOW AND YOU KNOW THERE'S THREE VACANCIES THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THERE. CAN I RESPECTFULLY ASK I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GOING TO TOMORROW. IT'S NOT AND CAN I JUST I JUST WANTED TO FINISH MY SENTENCE. I HAVE GONE THROUGH MANY RESUMES. WE HAD DONE INTERVIEWS. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO APPLIED AND YOU KNOW, I'LL KEEP YOU IN MIND FOR THE FUTURE AS WELL IF ANY VACANCIES COME ABOUT. BUT I AM VERY CONFIDENT IN THIS [01:30:01] DECISION AND I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW OUR STAFF WILL MOVE FORWARD IN THE BEST POSSIBLE LIGHT AND IN THE BEST INTEREST TO THE TOWN. I DO ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT TB TWO IS IN REGARDS TO THE ONLINE PUBLIC AUCTION OR FOR FORECLOSED PROPERTIES. I AM GOING TO ASK SOMEONE FROM THE COMPANY IF THEY COULD COME TO A WORK SESSION TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DESCRIPTION OF HOW EXACTLY THAT AUCTION WILL WORK. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT RIGHT NOW THOUGH THAT THE AUCTION WILL BEGIN ON MAY 18TH AND PEOPLE WILL HAVE TWO DAYS TO PUT IN A BID AND IT WILL CLOSE ON MAY 20TH. SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT WILL IT BE MAY 18TH WILL BE MAY 20TH WILL ACTUALLY BE OPEN FOR A PERIOD EXTENDING THE 18TH, 19TH AND THE 20TH. BUT I WOULD LIKE A REPRESENTATIVE TO COME AND GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL SINCE IT'S THE FIRST ONE AND HOPEFULLY IT ALL GOES WELL AND WE CAN PROCEED WITH THIS FORMAT. >> SO WILL YOU ASK THEM TO JOIN US FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MAKE THEMSELVES FAMILIAR WITH THE FORECLOSED PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING PUT UP FOR AUCTION AND THEY CAN EXPLAIN ALSO THE PROCESS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. >> YES I CAN REACH OUT SHOULD THEY SAY MAY 18TH DASHED 20? >> YEAH, I THINK AN AMENDMENT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YES. >> IN THAT THING AND WHAT'S IN THERE FOR THOSE TWO? IT'S ABSOLUTE AUCTION AND IT SAYS ON THE RIGHT LET ME AS A QUESTION DOES THEY WANT TO BID TO DO THAT WHAT WAS IT A LOW BID? >> YEAH SO THEY WERE A EVEN TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER. YES AND THEY WORK WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. THEY'VE DONE OTHER AUCTIONS FOR US AS WELL AND EXCESS INVENTORY. I'VE HEARD MANY GREAT THINGS ABOUT THEM AND AGAIN THIS IS THE FIRST AUCTION. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WE WOULD HAVE TO USE THAT MOVING FORWARD. BUT BASED ON MY CORRESPONDENCE SO FAR I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL DO. >> AND AS A FOLLOW UP TO AN EMAIL, I SENT TO THE BOARD THERE'S NO I THERE'S A NEPOTISM DISCLOSURE SO THERE'S NOBODY IN THE TOWN GOVERNMENT WHO'S RELATED TO THE PRINCIPALS OF THIS COMPANY. I JUST WANT THAT CLEAR NOT THAT I KNOW WE DO HAVE A NEPOTISM CLAUSE IN OUR CODE OF ETHICS CURRENTLY. >> YEAH. OKAY SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE IT AS YOU MIGHT NOT AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE ON THAT APPLICATION AND YOU MIGHT BE AWARE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S INVOLVED IN ANY CONTRACTS THAT IS DISCLOSED THAT SHOULD BE DISCLOSED ON OUR FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORM WHICH I DO EVERY YEAR, I'M NOT AWARE THAT IT'S YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'D BE ASKING THAT AT THE TIME WE VOTE ON A CONTRACT THAT I'M THAT WE DISCLOSE WHICH CONTRACT WHICH TYPE OF CONTRACTS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? ARE YOU REFERRING THE ONES THAT GO OUT TO BID OR AGREEMENT OR EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS? >> I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHICH CONTRACTS YOU'RE REFERRING TO. WELL, I BASICALLY ANY TIME THE TOWN DEALS WITH ANYBODY THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE THERE SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE AT THE TIME WE'RE VOTING OR TAKING ACTION OR DISCUSSING IT THAT THERE'S NO NEPOTISM OF ANY KIND RELATING TO THAT AGREEMENT AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO BE ASKING FOR FOR THE NEPOTISM THING WAS POSTED ON A WEBSITE, RIGHT? >> I BELIEVE SO. NO, BUT I'M SAYING THIS I WANT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. >> OKAY. AND I DO I DO WANT TO SAY IT IS IN THE CODE OF ETHICS AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, BUT WE'RE ALSO BOUND BY STATE LAWS AS WELL THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO OPT IN. SO PEOPLE MUST BE DISCLOSING THEIR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. >> OKAY. BUT IT'S NOT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CONFLICTS. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO THAT IS IT THAT LET ME JUST SAY IS THE KINDS OF INTERESTS ACCORDING TO OUR LOOK TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR WRITING PROCESS AND A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS CAN DEAL WITH THAT FINANCIAL OR PERSONAL RIGHT AND WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. >> THAT'S PERFECT. EXCELLENT. WELL, I'M SORRY THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT ALREADY. >> I DON'T KNOW OR MAYBE DOESN'T. SO THAT'S WHY YOU ASKING ME ANY OTHER YOU KNOW, ITEM I DO WANT TO ADDRESS BECAUSE YOU YOU POINTED OUT THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AND DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR REGARDING YOU WANT A REPORT FOR HER NEXT WEEK. YOU HAVE DONE IT. YOU HAVE COME UP WITH THE EMAILS. IT SAYS IN A MONTH IN TWO WEEKS AND ONE WEEK AND TWO WEEKS AND ONE WEEK YOU SHE PUT OUT SOMETHING THAT EXPLAINED WHICH IS RIGHT AND APPARENTLY YOU READ IT EXPLAINED THAT THERE ARE FOUR ACCORDANCE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE IN THE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND YOU KEEP SAYING THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE I JUST LIKE TO KNOW I JUST I JUST I JUST SAY WELL YOU SHOULD KNOW YOU'RE THE CHIEF. >> I'M BORING YOU HAVE BEEN WELL I'M JUST LOOKING. LET'S GET TO WHY CAN'T YOU COME UP AND SAY THAT SOUNDED GREAT. THE TOWN EMPLOYEES LIKE TO BE INTERRUPTED JUST LIKE WHEN WE'RE ALL TALKING TO THE PUBLIC AND NOT JUST LIKE THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTORS HERE. WHY CAN'T SHE COME UP? SHE'S BEING BECAUSE YOU'RE SHE'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AND I BASICALLY HAVE QUESTIONS RELATING TO THE JOB SO YOU HAVE [01:35:02] A PATTERN AND PRACTICE OF HARASSING ING HER AND IT'S NOT RIGHT AND WHAT SHE RELATIONSHIP WHAT SHE WROTE WHICH TOOK A LOT I DIDN'T EVEN HEAR WHAT SHE WROTE WHICH IS TRUE AND SHE AGONIZED BEFORE SENDING IT BUT SHE FELT SHE HAD TO TO PROTECT HER REPUTATION BECAUSE OF YOUR HARASSMENT AND CREATING A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR HER THERE'S NO HOSTILE WORK INVOLVED THERE DEFINITELY GET INFORMATION. >> YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO GET INFORMATION. >> RIGHT. HERE'S WHAT'S EXCUSE ME IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY INSPECTIONS SOMEBODY IS DOING AND HOW LONG DID THEY WAIT BEFORE THEY DID IT AND ALL OF THAT, THEN WHY AREN'T YOU ASKING IT FROM EVERYBODY? AND I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ALMOST EVERY TIME. HOW COME YOU'RE NOT ASKING IT FROM EVERY OTHER PERSON WHO DOES INSPECTIONS? IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE EMBARRASSING HER. >> IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE IS BECAUSE YOU JUST WANT TO LOOK AT IT. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING. YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY HARASSING HER, CREATE YOU TRYING TO DESTROY THE TENSION. >> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. LET ME KNOW AND YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DONE. >> LET ME KNOW EVERYBODY TO BE EMBARRASSED ABOUT THE TOWN. YOU'RE BEING VERY NEGATIVE HERE. YOU'RE JUST BEING A LIABILITY TO THE TOWN. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DONE BECAUSE AND ALL I'M SAYING IS I . I BASICALLY BELIEVE HONESTLY THAT ONE PERSON CAN'T DO TWO JOBS. I'VE ALSO BASICALLY FEEL THAT IF THE BOARD GOES AGAINST MY VIEWS ON THIS WHICH THE BOARD IS DOING THEN I BELIEVE THAT AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND AS TOWN SUPERVISOR I HAVE A RIGHT TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH INFORMATION SO I WANT EVERY SINGLE WEEK BUT IT COULD BE DONE EVERY TWO WEEKS OR IF LAW SAYS YOU KNOW SHE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME I WANT WEEKLY REPORTS AND I COULD GIVE IT GIVEN TO ME EVERY TWO WEEKS OR THREE YOU KNOW, WE JUST COME UP WITH A PLAN AND I WANT TO KNOW WHO ARE THE INSPECTORS ON A WEEKLY REPORT WHO CONDUCTED THE INSPECTIONS, HOW LONG? WELL, WHEN THE INSPECTIONS WERE REQUESTED, WAS THERE A WAITING PERIOD? I'M AND WHAT THEY FOUND, YOU KNOW, WITH INSPECTIONS AND I ALSO FEEL THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HIRE THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR AS AS I'M A DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY THAT THE HOURS SHOULD BE AFTER FIVE 5:00 SO IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT SHOULD BE FROM 5 TO 9 OR 5 TO 10 EVERY EVERY NIGHT. I AND I ALSO FEEL THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE TO CLOCK IN NOVEMBER THE CLOCK IN ON BOTH RIGHT FOR BOTH JOBS SO SHE'S AN ADMINISTRATOR AND SHE CLOCK SAID NO YOU REQUIRE ALL ADMINISTRATORS TO CLOCK IN FULL I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WHETHER OR NOT YOUR HARASSING HER. I ALSO FEEL THAT THE TOWN DO YOU REQUIRE I UNDERSTAND I ALSO FEEL THAT THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD HAVE IT SHOULD DECIDE IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT YOU KNOW THE VACATION POLICY IF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IS SICK OR ON VACATION, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR IS OUT THE SAME TIME? IS THAT ALLOWED OR JUST ONE OF THEM ONE OF THE ONE OF THEM ALWAYS HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, AROUND YOU. SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD BASICALLY INTERVIEW BOTH MR. MIRABITO AND LUCY. WE'VE DONE IT FOR TWO YEARS. >> TWO YEARS I'VE DONE IT FOR TWO YEARS FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE ALL I KNOW WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW IS YOU HAVE AN OPEN CAMPAIGN. WHAT'S GOING ON NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO DISTRACT THE PUBLIC FROM THE FORENSIC REPORT. BUT LET'S BE CLEAR WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW IS THAT WE'RE GETTING LESS WORK DONE NO MORE THAT WE NOW HAVE NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW BECAUSE I GOING TO STOP I'M GOING TO END THIS CONVERSATION NOW. I'M GOING TO STOP. >> WAIT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> GETTING LESS WORK OUT OF THEM NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A PROFESSIONAL LIZ GARRITY I'M THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR FOR THE TOWN I RESPONDED TO QUALIFIED HER TODAY IN AN OPEN LETTER BECAUSE CONTINUALLY PAUL ,YOU HAVE MADE MISSTATEMENTS ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT MAYBE INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY THAT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME. THE FACT IS THAT I NEEDED TO SET THE PUBLIC RECORD STRAIGHT. THERE WERE FOUR NEW YORK STATE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WORK FULL TIME IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. WE ALL DO INSPECTIONS. >> YOU STATED ON THE RECORD THERE'S ONLY ONE INSPECTOR THAT NO YOU DID NOT YOU SAID NO, NO, NO YOU DID NOT HER YOU SAID ONE INSPECTOR YOU WERE SITTING RIGHT IN THE CENTER AND YOU SAID THERE WAS ONLY ONE INSPECTOR AND YOU ARE SCARED THAT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. YEAH. THAT IS A MISSTATEMENT. FLAT FALSE STRAIGHT OUT FALSE. WE ALL ARE DOING INSPECTION AND THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD MAKE THAT STATEMENT WITHOUT EVER SPEAKING TO ME, FRANK OR ANYONE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ME. I TAKE PRIDE. FRANK TAKES PRIDE IN OUR WORK. WE ARE MANDATED BY NEW YORK STATE TO ENFORCE THE CODE. THAT IS A SERIOUS ACCUSATION YOU MADE AND IF I SOUND UPSET IS BECAUSE I AM I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THIS FOR MONTHS AND IT IS UNFAIR. [01:40:04] I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH WHATEVER REPORT I HAVE SHOWN. I HAVE PROVEN THAT WE ARE DOING OUR JOBS. FRANK IS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND . >> I AM THE ARE OTHER INSPECTORS ARE IT MAKES US FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONE YOU'RE TRYING TO MICROMANAGE ALL OF A SUDDEN AFTER 35 YEARS, YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME. IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE YOU'RE IMPACTING THE PRIDE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR WORK. WE TAKE EVERY RESIDENT AND BUSINESS IN THIS TOWN SERIOUSLY. >> WE HELP PEOPLE OPEN. WE HELP PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE IN VIOLATION. I DO MY BEST. >> FRANK DOES HIS BEST. ALL OF THE INSPECTORS DO TO MAKE THIS PLACE THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG WHICH FRANK IS A RESIDENT OF AND A TAXPAYER IN TO SAVE US MONEY. THAT IS WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO. >> HE'S NOT WORKING MAKING ALL THIS MONEY WHICH IS LIKE HEY, LOOK AT THIS. HE'S MAKING $260,000. HE'S WORKING AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING SOMETIMES TILL TEN, 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. >> BUT YOU DON'T MENTION THAT YOU MENTION LOOK AT THE MONEY. >> YOU DON'T SAY HEY PUBLIC, HE'S WORKING 80 HOURS A WEEK. HE'S THERE DURING EMERGENCIES DURING THE TEXTER FIRE HE CLEARED THAT ROAD TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD GET BACK THERE TO PUT THE FIRE OUT SO THERE WEREN'T ANY IMPACT ON HOMES. >> HE IS A PERSON THAT I HAVE KNOWN FOR 20 YEARS AND COMMISSIONER FON WHEN HE WAS HERE TOLD YOU THIS THIS IS THE BEST PERSON TO TAKE CARE OF THE TOWN THE BEST. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU HEARD THAT FROM? NONE. YOU HAVE A BENEFIT IN THIS TOWN HAVING SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO WORK THIS HARD. >> I'VE NEVER WORKED FOR ANYONE IN MY LIFE THAT IS PURPOSELY TRYING TO SAY DON'T WORK HARDER, DON'T MAKE THE TOWN BETTER. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU ARE DISTORTING IT INTO SOMETHING TERRIBLE. I HAVE I HAPPENED TO HAVE GOTTEN MY LAW DEGREE. >> I SPENT THREE YEARS GOING TO SCHOOL, WORKING FULL TIME, GOING TO SCHOOL AT NIGHT SO I COULD BETTER THIS TOWN. I DIDN'T SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE A TOWN ATTORNEY. I DID IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO BETTER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE POSITION CAME UP AND I SAID LET ME LET ME LOOK AND SEE IF I CAN HELP THE TOWN EVEN FURTHER IN A CAPACITY OF A DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AFTER MY NORMAL WORKING HOURS, MY BUILDING DEPARTMENT POSITION TAKES PRIORITY THAT SHOULD NEVER BE DISTORTED. I TAKE IT PERSONALLY, PAUL, BECAUSE THIS THIS TOWN HAS BECOME MY FAMILY AND I DON'T LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME AND SAYING THINGS AND POSTING THINGS ONLINE AND ON SOCIAL. MY SISTER CALLED ME AND TOLD ME WHAT YOU WERE PUTTING ON FACEBOOK. >> I WAS DISGUSTED. SHE WAS DISGUSTED. >> MY MOTHER WAS CRYING. SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT AND YOU START DISPARAGING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WE ARE DOING OUR JOBS. WE ARE DOING OUR INSPECTIONS, WE ARE MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE EVERY DAY AFTER HOURS FROM HERE I'M GOING TO GO BACK OUT. I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS LATER AN EXECUTIVE SESSION NOT BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE SO PLEASE PLEASE REPRESENT WHAT YOU HAVE WHICH IS GOLDEN. YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CARE YOU HAVE INSPECTORS THAT CARE. >> YES. THERE'S VACANCIES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE HAPPY BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO FILL THEM. WE ARE TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING. IF WE NEEDED TO FILL THEM, FRANK WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE CALLING FOR A LIST AND SAYING WE NEED TO GET THESE POSITIONS FILLED. WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO IS TO SAVE THE TOWN MONEY. >> SO SHOULD WE LEAVE THOSE POSITIONS OUT OF THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR SO WE WILL AGAIN WE EVOLVE. WE ARE CONSTANTLY EVALUATING WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE BUILDING. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE NEXT YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO INCREASE. NOBODY KNOWS THAT THAT'S WHY THOSE POSITIONS STAYED. >> SO IF FRANK AND I WILL BE THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED MORE INSPECTORS RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T NEED THAT. IF WE DID WE WOULD COME TO THE BOARD AND ASK SO I. I AM SORRY I'M BEING LOUD. >> I AM THIS HAS BEEN COMING FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE I HAVE SAT SILENT. I SAT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WHILE YOU WERE AT THE FRONT AND YOU WERE LOOKING RIGHT AT ME AND CRITICIZING ME SAYING THAT YOU THINK THAT ME BEING A DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY IS A TRAVESTY WHICH IS YOUR OPINION AND THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THAT TAKES AN EFFECT ON SOMEBODY THAT'S TRYING TO HELP THE TOWN AND BECOME A FURTHER THEIR CAREER IN THE TOWN AND ASSIST YOU AND PAUL IF YOU ASKED ME TO [01:45:08] HELP YOU WITH SOMETHING EVEN AFTER WHAT YOU'VE DONE I WOULD STILL HELP YOU. I WANT I'M HERE FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I'M NOT HERE TO CRITICIZE OR DO WHAT I'M HERE TO DO MY JOB AND I DO IT VERY WELL AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 27 YEARS. >> OKAY. WELL LET ME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING I'VE SAID TO YOU. I'VE SAID TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT I WANTED TO HAVE YOU APPOINTED AS BUILDING INSPECTOR. I'M TELLING YOU THAT'S WHAT I SAID THAT I ALSO SAID I SAID THE ISSUE IS NOT YOU. THE ISSUE IS NOT FRANK THE ISSUE AS I SAID IS THAT BOTH OF YOU I THINK WOULD DO AN AMAZING JOB IF YOU HAD JUST ONE ONE JOB AND NOT BE DISTRACTED WITH OTHER JOBS. >> NO. WELL, LET ME LET ME JUST SAY SO LET ME SAY SO THE OTHER THING THAT I SAID IS I WOULD EVEN SUPPORT INCREASING YOUR SALARY INCREASING THE SALARY OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IF YOU TOOK THE BUILDING INSPECTOR POSITION BECAUSE I BASICALLY FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INSPECTIONS THAT THAT MAYBE COULD BE DONE. I FEEL BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO PROACTIVE YOU KNOW, MORE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TALKING YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SAYING LET'S PROGRAM THESE INSPECTIONS. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT I COULD SEE BEING DONE. I FEEL THAT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN, THEY LEASE YOU KNOW, IT TAKES I THEY DON'T GO MISSING. I'VE SEEN VACANT, YOU KNOW, STORE STOREFRONTS SAYING COMING SOON THIS STORE IS GOING TO OPEN THAT STORE AND NOTHING HAPPENS FOR A YEAR OR TWO. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE LIKE AN OMBUDSMAN USING THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AS AN OMBUDSMAN WHO COULD HELP. I NEW BUSINESSES. >> SO YOU'RE GIVING HER A SECOND JOB? NO, NO, NO. I'M SAYING BUT THIS IS ALL WITHIN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. I FEEL THAT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. WELL, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND AND ATTRACTING BUSINESSES AND MOVING THINGS FORWARD WHERE ACTUALLY WHAT I WE SHARE THE SAME GOALS AND THAT'S TO HAVE NO VACANCIES IN ANY BUSINESSES HAVE ALL THE RESIDENTS IN SAFE HOMES THAT'S THE GOAL OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND SHOULD BE THE GOAL OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS TO HAVE A CONCIERGE SERVICE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. WE ASSIST EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT THAT COMES INTO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHETHER IT'S A BUSINESS OR A RESIDENT WE TREAT EVERYONE EQUALLY. WHAT I DO ON MY OWN IS I TRY TO ASSIST THROUGH THE PROCESS BETWEEN GARRETT COMMISSIONER DUQUESNE BUILDING INSPECTOR MORABITO OUR PLAN EXAMINERS WE MEET WITH RESIDENTS. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING AN ONLINE SUBMISSION PORTAL WHERE PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT PRE APPLICATIONS AND MOVE THINGS FASTER. WE'RE ALREADY DOING THE THINGS YOU'RE ASKING YOU WANT US TO DO WITH COMMISSIONER AND BUILDING INSPECTOR MORABITO HOLDING TWO JOBS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS HE'S FACILITATED ALL OF THIS. >> HE HAS DONE THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ASK A QUESTION WILL THAT BY BY DOING THAT ISN'T THAT AN ECONOMY THAT WILL HELP SAVE TIME AND FINE TUNE THE DEPARTMENT SO THAT YOU CAN MORE EASILY ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED AND ACCOMPLISH EVEN MORE? IT'S GOING TO ACCOMPLISH IS ON THE RESIDENTS IS ON THE BUSINESSES AND ENRICH MORE DEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION THAT WE CAN GET WITH PLANNING, ZONING, ENGINEERING WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND THE SAME DOCUMENTS SO THE PEOPLE AREN'T REPRODUCING RIGHT NOW. I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE AND THIS VERY QUICK AND I KNOW WE'RE PRESSED FOR TIME RIGHT NOW IF SOMEBODY IS DOING AN ADDITION THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN WITH NINE SETS OF THE SAME PLAN FOR PLANNING AND ZONING FOR ENGINEERING AND FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY ON THE APPLICANT SIDE NOT FOR THE TOWN BUT ON THE APPLICANT SIDE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS JUST HAVE AN ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION WHICH IS FREE FOR THE APPLICANT. OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PLANS TO BE DONE BUT THIS IS OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THE APPLICANT PROCESS THE APPLICATION PROCESS WHETHER IT'S SITE PLAN BUILDING SMOOTH AND THAT THAT WAS ALL DONE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN KNOW THAT I REMEMBER RICH TALKED ABOUT THAT NO THAT WAS THAT WAS COMMISSIONER AND BUILDING INSPECTOR MORABITO BUT I REMEMBER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO. RIGHT. BUT THAT THAT WAS HIM, RIGHT? HE'S HE IS AND YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT BUT HE HAS BEEN INITIATING QUITE A BIT THAT IS GOING TO ULTIMATELY SAVE THE TAXPAYERS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. YOU ONLY SEE AND YOU'RE HOLDING UP A SALARY. AND AGAIN, I REALLY TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT IS THAT YOU JUST DON'T YOU PUT A NUMBER OUT THERE WITHOUT GIVING IT CONTEXT WHEN SOMEBODY WORKS 80 HOURS THAT'S LESS THAN 40 HOURS, $40 AN HOUR HE MAKES ALMOST LESS [01:50:01] THAN A LABORER AT THIS POINT. LET ME JUST SAY MY OBJECTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU OR FRANK BECAUSE BASICALLY I THINK BOTH OF YOU ARE DOING I DO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS SO I BASICALLY YOU KNOW, I FEEL FRANK IS VERY CREATIVE. I FEEL HIS HARD WORKING. HE DEFINITELY HAS SOLVED A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I FEEL THAT YOU'RE VERY DEDICATED. YOU'RE A HARD WORKER. YOU BASICALLY KNOW THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND TO ME I SORT OF FEEL THAT BOTH OF YOU COULD BE LIKE THE BEST IN YOUR POSITIONS IF YOU WOULD JUST FOCUS ON YOU KNOW, ON THAT AND THAT DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S AN ISSUE OF YOU KNOW, LIKE I FEEL THAT IF YOU WERE A FULL TIME BUILDING INSPECTOR AND RAN THE DEPARTMENT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE THE BEST BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND IN NEW YORK I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE BEST NUMBERS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> I THINK IT'S I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> IT JUST ISN'T BASED ON BASED ON WHAT I KNOW BECAUSE I THINK YOU FEEL OH YOU FEEL LET ME SAY IT'S NOT FAIR. >> IT'S NOT IS NOT FAIR IS YOUR JUDGMENT. I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. LIZ HAS WORKED A FULL TIME JOB AND DONE A GREAT JOB AND IN THREE YEARS PART TIME SHE COMPLETED HER LAW DEGREE USUALLY LAW SCHOOL IS TWO YEARS FULL TIME. SHE COMPLETED PART TIME. IT'S THREE IT'S THREE YEARS AND SHE COMPLETED THREE YEARS PART TIME WHILE SHE WAS WORKING IN A FULL TIME JOB DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. AS YOU'VE SAID, SHE HAS NOT NOT DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. IN ADDITION SHE THEN STUDIED AND PASSED HER LAW BOARDS LIKE THAT. SO SHE DID ALL THAT WELL HOLDING A FULL TIME JOB SO FOR HER TO HOLD A FULL TIME JOB AND A PART TIME JOB CONCURRENTLY BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME ONE WILL BE DURING THE DAY THE OTHER NIGHT SHE'S USED TO WORKING AT NIGHT JUDGE FROM THE FACT THAT SHE WENT TO LAW SCHOOL AT NIGHT SHE CAN DO IT. SHE HAS PROVEN HERSELF AND YOU ARE USING YOUR FEELING YOU'RE USING A FEELING THAT YOU HAVE YET TO SUBSTANTIATE THE DISTRACTION. >> CAN WE MOVE ALONG WITH YOUR GENDER REVEAL VERONICA SO MUCH . >> THANK YOU. I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO FOR THIS. YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE HARASSMENT I'LL STOP ALL FOR WELL, YOU'LL BE DOING LIAISON REPORTS TOMORROW NIGHT. >> NO, NO. ALSO THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS TOMORROW NIGHT, SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST COMBINE THE TWO MINUTES ROUND AND THE FIVE MINUTE ROUND LIKE WE DID A FEW WEEKS AGO. >> IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD, YOU'RE UP FRONT. >> YES, RIGHT. WE WON'T WAIT UNTIL I MEAN NOT THAT IT WOULD TAKE AS LONG BECAUSE THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING TO DO IT RIGHT. >> SO WE JUST ALLOW FIVE MINUTES FOR EVERYONE. YES. RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO WAITING. RIGHT? RIGHT. JUST YOU'D HAVE TO GET THROUGH OPENING PRESENTATIONS AND ANY TOWN CLERK COMMENTS AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD START OKAY . AND ALSO I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE WAIT UNTIL RESIDENTS ARE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK JUST ABOUT RESIDENTS HAVING HAVING TO WAIT TO SPEAK THEIR TURN. I THINK IT WOULD WORK MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY IF IF WE WAIT. >> SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE LISTEN TO EVERYONE AND THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT AND IF WE HAVE SOME COMMENT AFTER EVERYONE IS FINISHED SPEAKING DURING THEIR ROUND THAT'S GOOD. WE WOULD YES WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF SOMEONE WERE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION AND WANTED TO YIELD THEIR TIME TO YOU THAT SOMEONE COULD ANSWER IF THEY WISH BUT IT WOULD BE TAKEN AS PART OF KIND OF MAKE A SUGGESTION. YES. WHY WHY DON'T WE BASICALLY HAVE A VERY CLEAR POLICY THAT AND WE CAN POST IT ON THE AGENDA THAT THERE'LL BE NO INTERRUPTIONS UNTIL THE LAST PERSON SPEAKS. AND IF ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION OF THE BOARD AT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION IT COULD SAY TOWN BOARD ARE RESPONSES SO THIS WAY BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE ONCE SOMEBODY INTERRUPTS THEN EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GET OUT OF HAND. SO IF WE BASICALLY WE ALL HAVE TO DISCIPLINE AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO RESPECT THIS RULE. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. NOBODY'S GOING TO COMMENT. AND THEN THE AGENDA WOULD SAY ARE AFTER BOTH PUBLIC COMMENTS TOWN BOARD RESPONSES, YOU KNOW, [01:55:02] WE'D HAVE LIKE A PORTION OF THEN ANYBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD COULD SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT POLICY IF THAT'S WHAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ENACT. BUT YOU DO NEED AN OFFICIAL VOTE TO ENACT THAT. WE DID JUST GO THROUGH OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS A FEW I MEAN DOES ANYBODY LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THEN THEN WE DO WANT TO PUT IT TOGETHER AS A PROPOSAL FOR US TO CONSIDER TO COMPLY WITH IT. I COMPLY WITH WITH THAT. I WOULD DEFINITELY COMPLY WITH THAT. >> BUT YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY ELSE DOES I DID PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. OKAY. OKAY. IN TERMS OF THE AMBULANCE JUST FOR TOMORROW NIGHT BUT IF WE NEED TO HAVE JOINT TO VOTE ON YEAH FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. >> YES THIS THIS POLICY WOULD NOT BE SET IN STONE BY TOMORROW IF YOU'D LIKE TO INFORMAL FOLLOW IT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. GIVE IT A TEST RUN PERHAPS BUT YES, WE WOULD NEED COUNCILWOMAN HABER TO TO VOTE WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YES. IN TERMS OF I BELIEVE SUPERVISOR, YOU'RE ABOUT TO ASK ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE AND FIREFIGHTER LAW AND HOW WE RECEIVE CORRESPONDENCE FROM VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE MEETING THE ACTIVE REQUIREMENT OF 10% OF CALLS. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD DISCUSSIONS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ON THE PROPOSED LOCAL LAW BUT THAT WAS NOT BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION UNTIL IT WAS WAY TOO LATE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE FOR THE MAY 1ST TAXABLE STATE STATE. I DID SPEAK TO OUR LOBBYIST THIS WEEK ABOUT POTENTIALLY PUTTING A HOME RULE REQUEST TOGETHER TO ALLOW A RETROACTIVE ENACTMENT FOR THIS YEAR ONLY TO ALLOW THOSE AMBULANCE MEMBERS TO STILL GET THE EXEMPTION. HOWEVER, THAT WORDING IS NOT FULLY IN PLACE YET AND I MEAN YOU WOULD NEED TO APPROVE THAT WORDING. I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU SOON THOUGH AND OUR LOBBYIST IS THINKING ABOUT IT AS WELL AND SEEING WHAT HE THINKS WOULD PASSED AND WHAT WOULD BE BEST. >> THE QUESTION IS ALBANY YOU KNOW AND IT'S LIKE IN JUNE SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY GET THIS DONE LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK. WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER IT NOW THEY'RE IN THE THICK OF BUDGET TALKS. >> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WE WOULD I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LAW HAS TO BE INTRODUCED AND THEN GO TO COMMITTEE. SO WE REALLY IF WE COULD FINALLY HAVE BY NEXT WEEK THEN THEN BASICALLY THERE'D BE A CHANCE OF GETTING SOMETHING APPROVED BEFORE THE END OF THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WILL END WHEN THEY APPROVE A BUDGET THERE RIGHT NOW AND BUDGETS YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING OTHER LEGISLATION THERE RIGHT NOW HAVING BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND THEY'RE RATHER FRAUGHT BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS DUE APRIL 1ST AND THEY HAVE THINGS THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING OUT SO THAT THAT IT IS VERY, VERY PRESSURED AT THIS POINT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL CONSIDER LEGISLATION UNTIL THEY RETURN TO THAT THEY WILL BE WORKING IN THE DISTRICT . EVERYTHING WILL BE RECORDED BUT THEY WILL NOT HAVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR THEM TO CONSIDER LEGISLATION BUT WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND GET IT ON THE DOCKET RIGHT AWAY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME. WE CAN'T RUSH AGAINST A DEADLINE THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW EXISTS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY WILL HAVE THE BUDGET FINISHED. AS I SAID, THEY WON'T BE CONSIDERING ANY LEGISLATION AT THIS TIME. I RECALL LAST YEAR THAT WE WANTED TO DO A HOME RULE REQUEST REGARDING THE THE ARDSLEY SICK OR AMBULANCE CORPS SO THAT THAT AREA THAT THEY COVER WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES A MUNICIPALITY SO THAT THEY WOULD GET THE EXEMPTION FROM THAT AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S HAPPENED. >> IT HAS NOT I BELIEVE I BELIEVE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP POTENTIALLY IN THE FALL. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. >> SO THAT IS AN OPTION AS WELL. YES, RIGHT. SO THAT BECAUSE THEY IT SPANS TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES, ARDSLEY AND A SMALL PORTION OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA AND I THINK THE WAY OUR LAW IS WRITTEN WE WOULD NEED THAT LOCAL LAW FOR SOME OF THOSE MEMBERS TO GET CREDIT FOR IT OKAY SO THAT'S BASICALLY IT FOR THE OPEN SESSION AND AGAIN I JUST LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO RECONSIDER THE SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, POLICIES AGAIN, IF YOU WANT THE FORENSIC REPORT, MAYBE IT COULD BE PUT IN A DOCUMENT AREA OR BUT YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THE NEGATIVE STUFF ABOUT THE TOWN YOU KNOW, FROM ANYBODY YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER FOR THE TOWN FOR THE WEBSITE IF WE [02:00:01] HIGHLIGHTED WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE TOWN WHY PEOPLE SHOULD WANT TO MOVE HERE. AND I JUST THINK THAT AND THIS SPIRIT OF SHOWING PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL PUTTING THE TOWN FIRST THAT YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD REALLY TRY PORTRAYING THE TOWN IN THE BEST POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, LIGHT AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FIRE AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO COMPLY WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH ANY ANY WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, POLICIES THAT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE TOWN. YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE ARE SICK OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WILL CREATE SUCH A MORE POSITIVE ATMOSPHERE BY WHITEWASHING. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE I THINK IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE WOULD YOU SAY WE YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. LET'S LET'S GO INTO SESSION. I THINK IT'S TIME TO DO YOU AND YOUR MEETING AND MAKE THE MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UM FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIO * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.