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I MOVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING IN SECOND FAVOR. RIGHT.

[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ]

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AND NEXT WE HAVE NOW WE'RE IN THE WORK SESSION. THE WORK SESSION.

UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS UH, J AND C STEVENS BEEN A REGENERON LOGISTICS BUILDING PRESENTATION VERSUS AUTHORITIES. POLICE SHOULD MAKE SURE TO MIX ARE ON AND OF SOCIETY IT'S THIS IS A OKAY GREAT. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD MY NAME IS ANNIE

KLEIN I'M AN ASSOCIATE AT AL-BALAD. >> I KNOW AND WEINGARTEN WISE AND WHITTAKER HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF

REGENERON PHARMACEUTICAL GLS. >> WE WERE HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO TO RECEIVE SITE PLAN AND TREE REMOVAL PERMITS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A LOGISTICS BUILDING THAT AT THE TIME WAS

PROPOSED TO BE 136,000FT2 OF R&D. >> WE ALSO RECEIVED ASSOCIATED STEEP SLOPES AND WETLAND PERMITS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THAT BUILDING.

SINCE THAT TIME REGENERON HAS REEVALUATED ITS LONG TERM NEEDS AND REDUCED THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE LOGISTICS BUILDING. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO STEVE BECAUSE HE HAS A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION BUT GENERALLY WE HAVE REDUCED A LOT OF THE IMPACTS OF THE LARGER BUILDING.

THIS BUILDING IS ONLY PROPOSED TO BE ONE STORY AND 37,500FT2 SO IT'S MUCH SMALLER.

>> AND JOINING ME THIS EVENING IS TWO TED JUSTIN AND KIM MARTIN FROM REGENERON AND STEVE

SPINO FROM GMC. >> I GOT A PRESS AT ONE TIME TO TALK ABOUT OUR AREA.

SORRY, THIS IS A FIRST FOR ME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

ONCE I GET THE PROMPT HERE I'LL SHARE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH.

FIRST WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS APPROVED AND THEN WE'LL SIDE BY SIDE WHAT WE'RE NOW PROPOSING AND WE'LL TRY TO COMPARE ALL THE DIFFERENT IMPACTS AND THINGS THAT WE WOULD YOU KNOW THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL WITH AND YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATE THAT EVERYTHING IS EITHER REDUCED OR LESSENED IN SOME DEGREE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

SO AND WE'LL HAVE SOME. OKAY. ARE YOU ON THE INTERNET? I AM. OKAY. YOU JUST SAID CONNECTING SO I'M

JUST WONDERING. >> YEAH, I WAS IN THERE BUT NOTHING HAPPENED.

>> UM, AND THEN I GOT THIS. OKAY, SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IN AGAIN.

YEAH, I THINK SO. OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER WINDOW OPEN.

>> OH, OKAY. I HAVE ONE. >> I'LL CLICK ON A NEW LINK FROM THE FROM THE EMAIL AND TRY TO TAKE YOU OUT AND BRING YOU BACK.

>> YEAH I WAS IN BEFORE BUT THEN THE PROMPT CAME UP AND IT WAS JUST SPINNING FULL SERVICE TO WHERE? YEAH. YES.

REJOIN THE MEETING AND THEN WHEN I SHARE KIND OF ANY I KNOW I GOT FROM UP HERE IT'S THIS IS TWICE TODAY ON ZOOM FOR ME. OH USUALLY IT'S TEAMS DON'T JUST SLOW.

I WAS LAST TIME YOU UPDATED YOUR ZOOM I DON'T KNOW I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A WEBSITE SO USUALLY I WRITE THEM BACK. USUALLY THEY'RE PROMPT IN A

SECOND. >> UH, NO ZOOM UPDATE TAKES MORE THAN A MINUTE AND SO YOU HAVE TO DO IT. JOIN IS PANELIST OH, I'M BEING PROMOTED.

OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. UH, NO SALARY AND THEN WELL,

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DOES THEY ARE YOU PAYING HIM BY THE HOURS? YEAH.

>> THERE'S THE SHARE BUTTON. OKAY. LOWER LEFT.

LOOKS LIKE YOUR POWERPOINT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. OKAY. SO AS ANDY TOUCHED ON IT, UM, ON THE SCREEN NOW IS WHAT WERE OUR PREVIOUS APPROVALS WERE UH, WITH THE TOWN BOARD IN THE PLANNING BOARD UH, FROM TWO YEARS AGO. UM, THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW AERIAL JUST TO KIND OF ORIENT EVERYBODY SO UH UH, ROUTE NINE IS ON THE RIGHT HERE AND THEN OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD GOES EAST WEST ACROSS THE CAMPUS YOU HAVE NORTH CAMPUS HERE, SOUTH CAMPUS HERE WHERE THE NEW BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AND COMPLETED WITH THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE SOLAR PANELS WE HAVE THE LOOP ROAD PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. AND OUR PROJECT WHILE WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND THE RED CIRCLE

HERE WHICH IS CURRENTLY A TEMPORARY PARKING LOT. >> OKAY, SO THIS IS A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE TWO PROJECTS. I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE APPROVED PROJECT 136,000FT2 FOR STORIES THE REVISED BUILDING IS ONLY 37,500 AND IT'S ONE STORY. UM WE BOTH PROJECTS WE'RE REMOVING A PORTION OF THE EXISTING TEMPORARY PARKING LOT. THE APPROVED PROJECT HAD SLIGHTLY MORE WETLAND BUFFER DISTURBANCE FOR GRADING AND STORMWATER AND LANDSCAPING.

SO WE REDUCED THAT A BIT. >> UM, WE ALSO REDUCED THE STEEP SLOPES DISTURBANCE AND TREE REMOVAL. UM THEY BOTH STILL HAVE A SITE ACCESS DRIVEWAY TO THE CAMPUS AND THEN ONE ON TO OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD. THEY'RE THE SAME TYPE OF USE ANCILLARY TO THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ON THE REST OF THE CAMPUS.

AND THEY BOTH MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO, UM, WE'RE JUST, UM.

A LOT LESS PARKING IS NOW REQUIRED. UM, BUT ALL VERY CONSISTENT JUST LESS IMPACTS PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD. AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS. THIS IS JUST A SIDE BY SIDE. SO AGAIN THE APPROVED SITE PLAN ON THE LEFT AND THE NEW REVISED ON THE RIGHT AND WE HAVE AN OVERLAY THAT COMES UP THAT'LL SHOW A LITTLE MAYBE A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY BUT BOTH PRIOR PROJECTS RESPECT THE WETLAND BUFFER WHICH IS THE THICK GREEN LINE. THE REVISED SITE PLAN IS FARTHER AWAY WITH IMPACTS AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. SO UH, YOU KNOW SOME SOME REDUCED IMPACTS THERE. OVERALL LESS IMPERVIOUS AREA THE EXISTING PARKING LOT TOWARDS THIS TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BOTTOM RIGHT WOULD STILL REMAIN UM IT'S CONSTRUCTED WORKING WELL BEING UTILIZED. WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT UM WE WOULD BE STILL PROPOSING THE MAIN SITE ACCESS DRIVEWAY ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE HERE ONTO OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD. WE HAVE OUR LOADING AT THE SOUTH AND THE NEW BUILDING IS JUST SMALLER, LESS PARKING. UM, AND THEN IT HAS A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.

PREVIOUSLY WE WERE COMPLETELY REMOVING AN EXISTING PARKING LOT UP ON THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF THE SITE. UM, IT'S IT'S A IT'S A GOOD PARKING LOTS WORKING WELL WE'D LIKE TO KEEP A PORTION OF IT AND THEN BUILD A ROAD AGAIN DOWN THERE BUT UTILIZE WHAT IS ALREADY BUILT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM AND AGAIN IT WE WOULD BE RESTORING WHAT WAS UM YOU KNOW WHAT IS CURRENTLY A PARKING LOT NOW WHICH WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN THOSE PARKING LOTS TO BE RESTORED. SO THERE'S SIMILAR LOOKING PLANS BUT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS IT HAS LESS IMPACTS. THIS IS AN OVERLAY SHOWING THE TWO. SO NOW THE RED IS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND THE PURPLE IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED. SO ROUGHLY THE SAME FOOTPRINT.

MOST NOTABLY I GUESS THE RED IS HAS YOU KNOW A LARGER AREA AND IS MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AND IS CLOSER TO THE WETLAND BUFFER . UM AND THE GREEN BOX JUST SHOWS THE PORTION OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOT THERE THAT'S THERE NOW THAT WE WOULD BE REMOVING AND RESTORING TO LANDSCAPING. BUT ALL OF THESE ITEMS ON THE LEFT AND THE BULLETS ARE JUST KIND OF A RECAP OF WHAT I HAD THE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON IN AN EARLIER SLIDE UM YOU KNOW REDUCE THE IMPERVIOUS REDUCED EARTHWORK UM STEEP SLOPES TREE REMOVAL BUFFER DISTURBANCE REDUCE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND HEIGHT EVERYTHING STILL COMPLIES WITH ZONING.

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SO THIS WAS JUST AN OVERLAY AND THIS IS A ZOOM IN OF THAT. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN YOU KNOW, GET INTO DETAILS OF IT BUT UM WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A HELPFUL OVERLAY THAT WAS PROVIDED YOU STILL HAS TO GO TO LIKE THE PLANNING BOARD UH, YEAH, YEAH.

WE'LL GET INTO PROCESS TOWARDS THE CONCLUSION BUT THE ANSWER IS YES.

MULTIPLE BOARDS ARE YOU BUILDING THIS SO IT'S FOREVER ONE STORY OR YOU'RE BUILDING A FOUNDATION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A SECOND STORY LATER IF YOU WANTED TO.

IT TOOK MY QUESTION. >> OH, JUST ALAN'S QUESTION. >> YES.

SO PROPOSED JUST A ONE STORY BUILDING SO THE FOUNDATION IS ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE CORRECT? YEAH. SLAB SLAB ON GRADE TYPE

FOUNDATION AND UH, THAT'S IT. >> YEAH. JUST WE I THINK WE'RE BOTH OF THE SAME MIND THAT IN CASE YOU DECIDED TO EXPAND IT AND SET A FUTURE DATE THAT YOU MAKE IT READY TO TAKE ON THE SECOND FLOOR STRUCTURALLY THEY GOT THEIR APPROVALS FOR THE LARGER ONE AND THEY DECIDE SAY IN FIVE YEARS THAT THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD UM SINCE THEY ALREADY HAD APPROVALS THEY WOULD THEY WOULD UM SUPERSEDE NOT THE GAME PLAN THERE'S THERE'S NO INTENTION AT THIS POINT TO REEVALUATED OR NEEDS FOUND A NUMBER OF EFFICIENCIES AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS WAS THIS THROUGHOUT WE WANTED TO OKAY HOW LONG DOES A PROCESS LIKE THIS USUALLY TAKE SINCE I CAN'T SEE HOW IT COULD

BE CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE THERE'S LESS IMPACTS? >> YEAH, JUST ALL RIGHT, LET'S KEEP RIGHT INTO THE PROCESS SO THERE IS THE NEED FOR RE APPROVALS BY THE LAND USE BOARD SO THE TOWN BOARD WOULD WOULD HAVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL CALL IT AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT WOULD GET REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD WHO WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD ALSO REAFFIRM ITS STEEP AND WETLANDS APPROVALS AND THE TOWN BOARD WOULD BE LEAD AGENCY AND WE DO ANTICIPATE A MUCH MORE EXPEDITED PROCESS THAN THE FIRST GO AROUND BECAUSE AS STEPHEN MENTIONED THE IMPACTS ARE LESS SO YEAH, PRETTY ROUTINE PROCESS IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THEY COMPREHENSIVELY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS PRIOR BUT UH I IMAGINE LIKE A THREE MONTH PROCESS PERHAPS THREE AND A HALF, FOUR MONTHS TO

REAUTHORIZE ALL THE APPROVALS. >> BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF THE LOGISTICS BUILDING ,YOU KNOW, COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT JUST WHY THE LOGISTICS BUILDING IS YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT TYPE OF WORK IS DONE THERE? I'M JUST CURIOUS, TED, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THIS? SURE. YEAH.

SO ANYWAY, SO THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED TO BE A CENTRAL HUB FOR ALL OF OUR DELIVERIES FOR THE CAMPUS AND SO THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. IN ADDITION, ALL OF THE WORKSHOPS THAT ARE NEEDED TO KEEP THE FACILITY RUNNING ARE GOING TO BE RELOCATED HERE SLIGHTLY DOWN SIDE. SO THE PREVIOUS BUILDING HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF STORAGE WHICH WE'VE THROUGH STRATEGY HAVE FOUND THAT IT'S UNNECESSARY. SO THAT'S REALLY THE REASON THAT THE BUILDING SHRUNK IN SIZE AND WE JUST DIFFERENT STRATEGY FOR HANDLING DELIVERIES AND THINGS MADE IT MORE EFFICIENT. THANK YOU.

MAY I HAVE YOUR NAME PLEASE? TED GESSEN. THANK YOU.

UM, SHOULD I CONTINUE? YOU HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS SOME LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING. SO, UM, THE DARKER GREEN WOULD BE LANDSCAPING AS MUCH AS WE CAN PROVIDE ALONG THE FRONTAGE .

UM, THERE IS A WATER MAIN THAT'S A TOWN WATER MAIN AND AN EASEMENT THAT RUNS RIGHT ACROSS THE FRONTAGE THERE. SO UM WE'RE GOING TO PLAN AS MUCH TREES AS WE CAN OUTSIDE OF THAT EASEMENT BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE BUILDING. UM, THAT'S WHAT WE DID THE FIRST TIME WE PROPOSED AS MANY AS WE COULD. UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM. BUT THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT IN A NUTSHELL A GOOD AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A PARKING LOT WITH GRASS ISLANDS IN THE MIDDLE SO THERE'S GOING TO BE TREES, SHRUBS YOU KNOW IT'LL LOOK A LOT NICER.

THIS WAS JUST AN IMAGE SHOWING THE AERIAL ON THE LEFT AND THEN YOU SEE THAT PARKING LOT THAT WE'VE BEEN REMOVING A PORTION OF IN THE MIDDLE HERE AND THEN THE LIGHT GRAY AND THE TAN ARE JUST OUR NEW BUILDING. SO KIND OF LEAVING THE SOUTH END ALONE LEAVING THE NORTH END ALONE FOR THE MOST PART REMOVING THIS PARKING LOT AND THEN PROPOSING THIS PRETTY MUCH OVER AN EXISTING PARKING LOT. HERE'S THE BUILDING LOADING AREA.

THERE IS A POND UP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE GETTING RID OF AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPENSATE FOR LOSING THAT POND BY INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE OTHER POND

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SOUTH OF THE BUILDING. >> THESE ARE SOME VIEWS FROM THE BRIDGE OVER ROUTE NINE UM PREVIOUSLY RIGHT. SORRY THIS IS THE PREVIOUS APPROVED SO YOU COULD SEE HOW THE BUILDING IS QUITE A BIT TALLER. UM IF YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER THAT AND THEN LOOKING AT THE NEW BUILDING YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH SMALLER IT IS.

SO, UM, THERE'S A DELAY. SORRY BUT OH YEAH, SORRY. I'LL LOOK UP THERE.

THAT'S THE OLD AND GONE MINUTES. THERE IT GOES.

THAT'S THE NEW ONE WHEN YOU MOVE THE POND THE WATER THAT WAS FEEDING THAT POND HOW ARE YOU GETTING THAT WATER TO WHEREVER YOU WERE ENLARGING THE OTHER POND?

>> OKAY, GOOD QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT NO, WE OH, SO WE'RE SO WHAT? SO WHAT WAS BUILT AS PART OF THESE PARKING LOTS IS, UM THERE

IS A POND IF YOU COULD FOLLOW MY CURSOR OUT AN UPDATE YET? >> SORRY.

OR WAIT FOR THE I BROUGHT THE AERIAL PHOTO UP. THERE ARE SOME PONDS THAT WERE BUILT AND UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS THAT WERE ALREADY BUILT FOR THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOTS.

SO SINCE WE'RE REDUCING ONE OF THE LOTS QUITE A BIT UM WE'RE SENDING LESS IMPERVIOUS AREA TO THAT PARKING LOT THEORETICALLY FROM TO THAT POND THAT IT WAS BUILT FOR.

SO SINCE WE'RE LOSING A POND WE'RE SENDING THE IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT USED TO GO TO THAT

POND TO THE OTHER POND. >> SO THE RETENTION PONDS BASICALLY YEAH RIGHT.

>> AND THEN THERE'S ONE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING SOUTH OF THE THIS PARKING LOT.

OH IT'S UP HERE NOW. SO ON THE SOUTH END LOOKING AT THE AERIAL PHOTO THERE'S A POND RIGHT HERE SOUTH OF WHERE THE PARKING LOT ENDS WERE PROPOSING TO EXPAND THAT POND TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF STORMWATER WE ARE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND ACTUALLY WHAT IS OUT THERE NOW.

IT'S JUST KIND OF GETTING MOVED AROUND HYDRAULICALLY A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF DRAINAGE OUT THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE IT. OH OKAY.

SO WE GOT THE DELAY. UH, I'LL TRY TO WAIT TILL IT CATCHES UP.

THERE'S A FEW MORE VIEWS THAT WERE DONE FROM THE ROUNDABOUT THAT'S OUT THERE ON AN OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD AND GRASSLANDS ROAD. HERE'S THE VIEW THERE.

SO THIS IS THE NEW BUILDING FROM THE ROUNDABOUT. THERE ARE SOME EXISTING TREES IN BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE ROAD BUT WE'RE GOING TO ADD NEW TREES AS WELL.

SO THE BUILDING WILL BE A LOT LESS NOTICEABLE THAN WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

THIS IS LOOKING NORTHBOUND ALONG OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD WHERE YOU HAVE THAT GAS STATION DUNKIN DONUTS KIND OF ON THE RIGHT. ROUTE NINE IS ALL THE WAY OVER HERE ON YOUR RIGHT ROUNDABOUT IS BACK HERE. SO OUR DRIVEWAY WOULD COME IN.

IT WOULD LINE UP WITH THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S ALREADY THERE FOR THE FOR THE GAS STATION.

SO YOU'D HAVE KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE INTERSECTION. UM, THIS IS THE LOADING WE WILL HAVE IT'S NOT SHOWN ON HERE BECAUSE THE INTENT OF THIS IMAGE WAS TO SHOW YOU THE BUILDING THERE WILL BE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONTAGE HERE.

UM, WE JUST DON'T WE DIDN'T SHOW IT ON THIS IMAGE. UM, THIS IS WHAT IT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. IT WAS JUST THE VIEW UH, WHEN IT WHEN IT LOADS YOU KNOW LOOKING IN WHEN WHEN THE THE THE PARKING LOT WAS BUILT THERE WAS A CONSTRUCTION TRAILER THERE. OH AGAIN JUST A VIEW FROM THE DRIVEWAY THIS DOESN'T SHOW ANY OF THE LANDSCAPING THERE WILL BE ALONG THE FRONT IN THE BUILDING IT WAS JUST TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE. IT'S IT'S A PRETTY SMALL SHORT BUILDING. UM, I'LL SEE. OKAY.

VERY SORRY. THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE DRIVEWAY AS YOU WOULD DRIVE IN TOWARDS THE LOADING DOCK FROM OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD. YOU KNOW WE HAVE A VIEW COMING UP OF LOOKING SORT OF NORTHEAST FROM THE EDGE OF THE PARKING LOT UP AT THE BUILDING AS WELL . THESE PRE-FAB BUILDINGS. YES.

OH, IS THIS WHERE TRACTOR TRAILERS WOULD BACK IN? YES.

AND WOULD THEY BE ONCE THEY'RE BACK THEN WILL THEY BE ENCLOSED? NO, NO, THEY'LL BE IN THAT LOADING DOCK THERE UP AGAINST THE BUILDING.

UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FOR A FEW HOURS AND THEN AND THEN THEY'LL UNLOAD AND LEAVE.

SO THERE'LL BE A SPACE BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK AND THAT OPENING.

YES. YEAH I MEAN IT GOES RIGHT UP TO THE BACK OF THE LOADING DOCK.

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OKAY SO THAT'S NOT NOT LET ME TRY THIS. I GUESS IT'S LIKE THE DOCK LEVEL. THERE'S A THEY MOVE WHEN THEY GO TO THE LOADING DOCK WILL IT BACK RIGHT UP TO THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING? I'M NOT SAYING THE TRUCK IS GOING TO GO INSIDE THE BUILDING. I'M IN THE BACK SO THAT THERE'S AS FAR AS NOISE GENERATION IT'S MINIMIZED IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PADS THAT LINE OUTSIDE THE TRACK AND THERE ARE THERE THERE IS AN ENCLOSURE THAT WILL SEAL THE BACK OF THE TRUCK.

OKAY. TO THE BUILDING. IT ALSO HELPS YOU TOO BECAUSE IF IT'S RAINING, YOU KNOW THEY GO RIGHT AWAY. YES.

>> AND WILL THERE BE MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC NOW TO THE SITE THAN ONCE THIS IS BUILT AND I'M ASSUMING IF THERE IS THAT YOU DID A TRAFFIC STUDY LAST TIME AROUND FOR MORE TRUCKS RIGHT SO THE THE WHOLE PREMISE OF THIS BUILDING IS THAT INSTEAD OF THE TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT ALREADY COME TO THE SITE GOING TO ALL THE VARIOUS BUILDINGS, THE IDEA IS MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO COME HERE NOW AND THEN FROM HERE SMALLER VANS AND BOX TRUCKS WOULD GO FROM THIS BUILDING THROUGH THAT INTERNAL DRIVEWAY ALL STAY ON CAMPUS AND DELIVER WHERE THEY NEED TO.

SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE MORE TRACTOR TRAILERS. THERE WILL BE MORE BECAUSE OF THE LOOP ROAD PROJECT BUT THAT IS ALREADY BEEN STUDIED AND IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY, ADDRESSED ALL THE COMMENTS ETC. BUT THE IDEA HERE IS TO KIND OF CONSOLIDATE AND KEEP THEM IN ONE SPOT OFF THE BUSY ROAD, GET THEM IN AND OUT RATHER THAN GOING ON OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD THROUGH THE CAMPUS. GREAT.

THANK YOU. SO THE REVISED BUILDING HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF BAYS AS THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. I THINK IT'S TWO LESS. I BELIEVE WE HAD NINE AND NOW

IT'S SEVEN. >> SO YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT TO TERMS OF THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT AND AGAIN JUST KIND OF CONSOLIDATING A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY, RETHINKING SOME OF THE LOGISTICS AND OPERATIONS. UM AND YOU KNOW THIS IS AFTER YEARS OF STUDYING AND THEN RE STUDYING THIS IS WHAT YOU KNOW WE'RE PROPOSING NOW.

SO NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING 1500 NEW EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD GENERALLY KNOW BE 1498 THERE'S

A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING THERE. >> YEAH A LOT OF A LOT OF JOBS BUT I THINK MOST OF THE OPERATIONS IN THIS BUILDING ARE ALREADY ON THE CAMPUS, RIGHT? THEY'RE JUST KIND OF EVERYTHING IS ALREADY ON THE CAMPUS. RIGHT. MOVING TO THIS NEW FACILITY RIGHT THERE, LONG AWAITED FACILITY. ARE THERE OTHER EXPANSION PLANS FOR THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG, YOU KNOW AFTER THIS OR ARE WE TOWARDS THE END OF THE EXPANSION PROCESS? WE YEAH, I MEAN WE WE HAVE PUT THE LOOP ROAD EAST PROJECT INDEFINITELY ON HOLD. WE DON'T HAVE PLANS TO BUILD THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE COULD RE MOBILIZE THAT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE BUT EXCEPT FOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON AT THE MOMENT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WELL WE'RE THRILLED THAT REGENERON HAS CHOSEN GREENSBURG OVER OTHER COMMUNITIES AND YOU'VE BEEN A REALLY GREAT ASSET TO THE TOWN AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND I KNOW SOME PLACES WHERE I GO I MEET SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES AND THEY REALLY ENJOY HOW YOU TREAT THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL. SO GOOD COMPANY, YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY.

ALL AUCTION FORECLOSURE DISCUSSION THERE ON SAM IF YOU COULD PROMOTE ABSOLUTE AUCTIONS

SHOULD BE ON ZOOM THANK YOU. >> THAT WOULD BE JENNIFER GABLE MAN AND FRANK PATRICK YOU SEE THAT CLIP AS WELL. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SAW JUST JENNIFER'S OVER GO TO JENNIFER AND SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST A GENERIC AND YOU MAY WANT TO CROSS YEAH ZOOM USERS THERE ACTUALLY WANT TO SHARE TO IDENTIFY YOU WHERE YOU ONLY COMING IN A ZOOM USER COULD YOU

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STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE RIGHT PETER THAT YES THEY ABSOLUTELY HI JENNIFER AND FRANK.

SO WE ARE LIVE RIGHT NOW SO GREENBERG RESIDENTS COULD WATCH AND FOLLOW ALONG TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT. WE HAVEN'T HAD AN AUCTION HERE AT THE TOWN IN QUITE A WHILE AND WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO TO HAVING THIS FIRST ONE IN UPCOMING MONTHS AND HOPEFULLY MORE LATER THIS YEAR AS WELL. SO CAN YOU JUST PLEASE LEAD US THROUGH THE PROCESS A BIT AND JUST ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY IS WATCHING WHO WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED POTENTIALLY PUT A BID IN WHERE THEY COULD FIND THE INFORMATION, HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND WHAT EXACTLY THEY NEED TO DO TO PUT IN A SUCCESSFUL BID TO MAYBE AND IF BEFORE YOU DO THAT, IF YOU COULD SPELL YOUR LAST NAME OR MY LAST NAME IS PETER ZAK HE I

E T R Z A OKAY VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU. >> OH, THERE YOU GO.

PERFECT. AND WE'RE OKAY AND YOU CAN BEGIN.

THANK YOU. >> DO YOU WANT US TO START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS WHEN WE FIRST RECEIVED A LIST FROM THE TOWN I'M SURE BUT BUT MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT THE RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW TO ORDERLY PUT IN BIDS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T MISS IT

AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS. >> THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN START THEN WITH IT ONCE THEY VISIT THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S BEEN POSTED TO THE WEBSITE I BELIEVE WE'RE JUST WAITING ON CONFIRMATION THAT THE TERMS WERE APPROVED LAST WEEK AND IF THEY ARE WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE ADDED ONTO THE WEBSITE AS WELL AND CREATE A BETTER PACKET THAT THE THAT THEY'LL BE SIGNING USING A DOCUSIGN SYSTEM FOR SIGNATURES BUT WHEN THEY GO ON THE WEBSITE NOW THEY CAN VIEW EACH OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE AUCTION AND THEY CAN LOOK AT THE INFORMATION WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER ANY PHOTOS THAT WHEN FRANK WHAT ABOUT WITH THE TEAM THE PHOTOS DESIGNS TOOK PHOTOS AND DID SITE INSPECTIONS AND WE TOOK ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND PUT IT ONTO THE WEBSITE SO THAT BUYERS HAD THE ABILITY TO USE THAT INFORMATION FOR RESEARCH.

BUT THEN WE ALSO AND FOR THEM TO GO AND TALK TO THE TOWN THE TOWN BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND GET MORE INFORMATION AND DO A FURTHER DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL ONCE THEY GET TO THE WEBSITE THE FIRST STEP IS CREATING AN ACCOUNT ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY A MEMBER OF OUR WEBSITE ONCE THEY'RE A MEMBER OF THAT THEN THEY WOULD REGISTER FOR THE AUCTION SPECIFICALLY I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT A FEW WEEKS STILL BUT THE TWO WEEK TO FRIDAYS PRIOR TO WHEN THE AUCTION IS GOING TO CLOSE WE START SENDING OUT BETA PACKETS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN START FILLING THEM OUT AND GETTING THEM SIGNED AND WAIT FOR APPROVAL.

THE BETA PACKET IS SEVERAL PAGES THAT WE SEND IT THROUGH DOCUSIGN SO IT'S VERY EASY TO FILL OUT. IT'S ALL AUTOMATED. YOU JUST CLICK THE NEXT BUTTON AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT INFORMATION TO ENTER THE BETA PACKET REQUIRES A CREDIT CARD FOR REGISTRATION YOU'RE GOING TO FILL IN THE THE BIDDERS WILL BE FILLING IN THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION IF THEY ARE A COMPANY THEY'LL FILL IN ALL OF THE COMPANY INFORMATION AND PROVIDE COMPANY DOCUMENTS INCLUDING THE FEDERAL IRS LETTER THAT SHOWS THEIR EIA NUMBER AND THEY WILL ALSO PROVIDE THEIR NEW YORK STATE FILING RECEIPT IF THEY ARE A NEW YORK ENTITY, IF THEY ARE AN OUT-OF-STATE ENTITY THEY WILL PROVIDE THEIR ARTICLES OF ORGANIZATION AND ALL UPLOADED RIGHT INTO THAT DOCUMENT AND THEY'LL ALSO PROVIDE US A COPY OF THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE WHICH WE VERIFY THAT THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE SIGNED BY THE PERSON REGISTERING AND WE ALSO VERIFY THAT ALL OF THE THE COMPANY DOCUMENTS MATCH UP AS WELL. SO THE NAME HAS TO MATCH ON ALL OF THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY PROVIDE TO US ONCE IT'S UPLOADED AND THEY COMPLETE THAT THEN WE REVIEW IT AND PUT THEM IN AN APPROVAL FOLDER FOR THE MONDAY PRIOR TO THE AUCTION. SO THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE AUCTION IS BECAUSE OUR WEBSITE SAYS A MONDAY AND THEN AGAIN WEDNESDAY . THE MONDAY IS ACTUALLY WHEN WE OPEN THE AUCTION FOR BIDDING SO WE DON'T POST IT ONLINE NOW AND JUST LET PEOPLE START BIDDING. WE WAIT UNTIL THE MONDAY PRIOR TO THE MONDAY OF THE AUCTION WEEK IS WHEN THEY START AND THAT WOULD BE AND THAT WOULD BE MAY 18TH FOR FOR THOSE LISTENING MONDAY, MAY 18TH IT OPENS UP YOU SHOULD CREATE YOUR ACCOUNT BEFOREHAND THOUGH, RIGHT? WOULDN'T YOU SUGGEST CREATING IT BEFOREHAND SO THAT YOU COULD DO IT NOW? YES YOU COULD DO IT NOW AND YES YOU COULD PUT YOUR BIDS IN AND THE CLOSING DATE WOULD BE TWO DAYS LATER WEDNESDAY MAY 20TH

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AT 10 A.M.. SO THE EARLIER YOU CREATE YOUR ACCOUNT EARLIER YOU GET ON AND PUT YOUR BIDS IN THE BETTER CASE WITHOUT ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON THE WEBSITE.

>> YES. YES. WHEN WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT EVERYTHING'S ON OUR RIGHT SO WE'LL BE POSTING IT TO THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG WEBSITE AS WELL.

I WOULD SAY BY THE END OF THE WEEK I JUST I'M LOOKING AT CERTAIN THINGS THAT I THINK MIGHT NEED A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS BEFORE WE GO COMPLETELY LIVE.

>> BUT I'LL TALK TO JENNIFER ABOUT THAT OFFLINE. YES, WE DO NEED YOUR YOU KNOW, IF THE TERMS WERE APPROVED LAST WEEK WE CAN GET THE TERMS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND FINISH UP THE READ A BROCHURE AS WELL SO THAT IT'S GOT A AN EASY PRINTABLE OPTION FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO JUST LOOK AT THE WEBSITE. UM, SO WHERE THOSE TERMS ARE APPROVED LAST WEEK YES THEY WERE AWESOME SO WE'LL GET THOSE POSTED TO THE WEBSITE SO WE CAN FINISH UP AND CLEAN UP THE WEBSITE COMPLETELY AND THE LINK IS LIVE NOW WE'VE POSTED IT AS SOON AS THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED THE LINK WENT UP SO THAT PEOPLE CAN START PRE-REGISTERING FOR THE AUCTION AND WE PROVIDE WE'LL EMAIL THEM UPDATES ALONG THE WAY SO THE CITY GOT NOTIFIED WHEN THE INVENTORY WAS POSTED AND THEY'LL GET NOTIFIED WHEN THE BETA DOCUMENTS ARE READY TO BE SENT OUT. IT'S A NICE WAY FOR THEM TO JUMP START GETTING READY AND PRE REGISTERING SO THAT THEY DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE THEY'LL IT ALWAYS HAPPENS. THEY WAIT UNTIL THE CUTOFF IS HERE OR THE AUCTION'S ABOUT TO END AND THEY TRY TO QUICKLY GET REGISTERED BUT EARLIER THE BETTER SO THAT WE CAN START COMMUNICATING AND GET INFORMATION OUT TO THEM AS AS THINGS CHANGE ON THE WEBSITE DO YOU SUGGEST THAT WE PUT OUT THE AIR AUCTIONS DOT COM ADDRESS OR THAT PUTS US TO YOUR HOME PAGE AND THEN SOMEBODY HAS TO THEN CLICK TAX FORECLOSED REAL ESTATE ON THE RIGHT AND THAT WILL SHOW IS A QUICK LINK THERE IS A QUICK LINK YEP NYS AUCTIONS GOES DIRECTLY TO THE TAX AUCTION TAB NYS AUCTIONS AND THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICAL WITH US FOR I THINK WE'VE HAD THAT WEBSITE FROM THE BEGINNING OF HAVING THE WEBSITE AND IT'S A IT'S KNOWN AROUND THE THE WHOLE STATE AS A TAX AUCTION LINK SO WE CREATED A A REDIRECT WITH THAT DOMAIN NAME SO AND WHEN YOU CLICK THAT LINK YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE IF YOU CLICK IT NOW TOWN OF GREENBURG LOGO POPS UP NICE AND IT'S REALLY NICE OUR LOGO IS THE BEST LOGO. IT'S NICE, IT'S BRIGHT JUST LOOK FOR THE I MEAN AS A QUESTION IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTIES UM COULD USE YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PROPERTIES ON THIS AUCTION LIST COULD YOU MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE SUMMARY OF YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTIES ARE LIKE AND YOU KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WATCHING THIS MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN? FRANK ACTUALLY WAS VISITING THEM ALL SO THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR HIM TO DISCUSS ON THE PROPERTIES.

>> SURE BE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU. THE FIRST PROPERTY IN THE AUCTION IS ACTUALLY A COMBINATION OF TWO ADJACENT PARCELS ON BRAMBLE BROOK ROAD WHEN WE SAW THEM BEING ADJACENT PARCELS AND BASED ON WHERE THEY WERE IN THAT CONFIGURATION IT SEEMED LIKE THE BEST IDEA WAS TO SELL THESE BOTH AT ONCE FOR ONE MONEY BID SO THAT HIGH BIDDER WHEN SUCCESSFUL ENDED UP BUYING TWO ADJACENT PARCELS AND THEN THEY CAN PURSUE WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLING ONE AND IT'S CLEARLY DESCRIBED ON THE WEBSITE AND THERE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THERE PROPERTY NUMBER THREE ZERO BEACON HILL DRIVE THAT APPEARS TO BE A SMALL FORWARD PARCEL AND THE BACK IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO A DRIVEWAY IT MAY TRAVERSE THE DRIVEWAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH AS TO WHAT THEY COULD OR COULD NOT DO WITH THAT PARCEL TO THE VERY SMALL PIECE NUMBER 634 WINDMILL PARK AVENUE UNIT 38 G AND THE GALLERY APPEARS TO BE A TOWNHOUSE OR CONDOMINIUM WHEN WE WERE THERE WE DID GET CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY BUT WE DID NOT GO INSIDE AS IT APPEARED TO BE OCCUPIED. SO THE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND THEN WE JUST MADE A NOTE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT THE PROPERTY MAY BE OCCUPIED MEANING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THE INTERIOR AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY INTERIOR LECTURES. WE'RE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT NOT ENTERING OCCUPIED PROPERTY.

WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB ANYONE'S PLACE OF RESIDENCE OR HAVE TO GAIN ACCESS THERE AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT ANY CONFRONTATION WITH ANYONE WHO MAY BE IN THAT PROPERTY SO THAT

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PROPERTY MAY BE SOLD OCCUPIED THE OCCUPANT THAT'S THERE MAY VACATED PRIOR TO AUCTION OR IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT BUYERS WOULD HAVE TO CONDUCT THE DUE

DILIGENCE ON. >> FOR THOSE THAT LISTEN TO THE WEBINAR THAT WE HAVE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE TO THEN IN OUR POSTING AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TWO HOURS WORTH OF INSTRUCTION AND EDUCATION WEBINARS ON OUR WEBSITE WE TELL PEOPLE IN THESE CASES THEY SHOULD MAYBE SEEK OUT A NEIGHBOR OR SOMEONE NEARBY AND ASK ABOUT OCCUPANCY WHAT THEY MAY KNOW ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND AND THEN THEY HAVE TO CONDUCT THEIR DUE DILIGENCE THAT WAY.

BUT WE ALSO CAUTION PEOPLE THAT WHEN YOU TALK TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW YOU MAY HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAY ONLINE MAKE THEM LIKE BECAUSE THEY MAY THEMSELVES HAVE INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY. SO THIS IS ONE WHERE THE BUYER ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO DO SOME HOMEWORK. SAME THING WITH NUMBERS SEVEN SEVEN IS 17 OR LAWRENCE AVENUE.

THAT HOME APPEARED TO BE OCCUPIED. THERE SEEMS TO BE A QUITE A LARGE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL BUT AGAIN WE ONLY TOOK SOME EXTERIOR PHOTOS AND THE SAME THING THAT I JUST MENTIONED APPLIES AND FOR THE NUMBER EIGHT THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT WERE OCCUPIED THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING TAXES FOR YEARS OVER TEN YEARS FOR OVER TEN YEARS AND THEY'VE RECEIVED MANY NOTICES THAT THEY SHOULD COME INTO COMPLIANCE OR THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY AND THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO ENTER A TAX INSTALLMENT PAYMENT PLAN PURSUANT TO REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW AND THAT OPTION IS STILL OPEN IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME IN AND DISCUSS WITH TO RECEIVE OUR TAXES BUT RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT.

WE'RE REALLY GETTING TO AND POINT HERE SO WOULD IT MAKE SENSE LIKE I'VE WRITTEN LIKE NUMEROUS LETTERS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE FACED FORECLOSURES AND WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO DO LIKE ONE LESS WARNING TO THESE PEOPLE SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING THAT'S LIKE ALMOST MIDNIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS

IF YOU DON'T WORK OUT A PAYMENT. >> AND SO THEY THEY HAVE RECEIVED THOSE NOTICES AS PART OF THE COURT PROCESS AND THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO IGNORE THOSE WARNINGS. SO IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEND ANOTHER ONE OUT.

BUT WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE'VE GOTTEN PAST WHAT'S CALLED THE REDEMPTION PERIOD WHERE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY THE TAXES INCLUDING PENALTIES INTEREST TO STOP THIS PROCESS FROM OCCURRING. AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ON THIS AUCTION RIGHT NOW, WE DO EXPECT THERE TO BE MORE PROPERTIES WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE FALL THAT I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO FEEL THAT THEY SIGNED ON AND THEY DIDN'T SEE SO MANY PROPERTIES AND THEY FEEL DISSUADED FROM CHECKING IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. THERE THERE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO POST INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

>> I'M JUST I'M JUST ASKING I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE TOWN. YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING WOULD YOU HAVE LIKE ANY OBJECTIONS IF WE GIVE IT LIKE ONE LESS IF I GIVE IT LIKE ONE LAST TRY BUT YOU KNOW IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HURT WHAT YOU'RE DOING THEN I WON'T DO IT.

YOU KNOW? SO I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU HAVE ANY ANY YOU KNOW ANY THOUGHTS AND THEN JUST ADD SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING THAT STEP ONE WE'RE AT THE PROPERTY TAKING PHOTOS. WE ARE ALSO POSTING A BRIGHT YELLOW AND BLACK TEXT FORECLOSURE AUCTION SIGN ON EACH PROPERTY. OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN OVER 25 YEARS OF DOING THAT THAT THESE ARE THESE SIGN POSTINGS ARE SOME OF THE BEST COLLECTION AGENCY FUNCTIONS EVER BENEFITS THE CONDOMINIUM THAT I SPOKE ABOUT A WINDOW POINT ROAD THAT SIGN WAS NOT AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING BUT IT WAS PLACED BEHIND THE GLASS DOOR THAT SEPARATED THE GLASS DOOR EXTERIOR FROM THE INTERIOR DOOR .

SO THERE WAS NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO TRANSGRESS THAT SPOT WITHOUT SEEING OR SIGN AND IT'S ALSO HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE PARKING LOT THE HOME AT NORTH LAWRENCE AVENUE BRIGHT YELLOW SIGN WAS POSTED RIGHT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE HOME NEAR THE MAILBOX. SO EVERY PARCEL THAT HAS ROAD FRONTAGE HAS RECEIVED A VERY BOLD TAX PROPERTY TAX AUCTION, FORECLOSURE SIGN AND IF THAT'S BEEN IN OUR OUR HISTORY HAS BEEN SOME OF THE BEST METHODS TO GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND

DEAL WITH THEIR TAX ARREARS. >> BUT FROM FROM MY STANDPOINT IF I WANTED TO GET A LETTER YOU

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KNOW, ONE LAST DITCH EFFORT, WOULD YOU HAVE LIKE ANY OBJECTIONS? THAT'S FINE EVEN IF IT'S NOT GOING TO PRODUCE ANYTHING AT LEAST YOU KNOW IF THERE THEY LOSE THEIR PROPERTY I WON'T BE ABLE TO FALL ASLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO FEEL SORRY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO FEEL THAT I DID EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO HELP THEM STAY STAY IN THEIR HOME IF THEY PAY YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT.

WE'VE JUST FOUND THAT ONCE THE YELLOW SIGNS ARE POSTED EITHER THEY'RE COMING INTO YOUR OFFICES OR NOT AND WE NEED AGAIN FOR SOME DO WAIT UNTIL THE VERY LAST SECOND AND SOME DON'T. COULD WE FINISH GOING THROUGH THE LIST?

>> I THINK WE HAD A FEW MORE TAKE A FEW MORE. SURE.

LET ME GET TO NUMBER EIGHT ZERO ENDICOTT AVENUE WHEN YOU SEEN THAT PROPERTY ON THE WEBSITE OR IN THE CATALOG YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT PROPERTY IS INDICATED AS MAY NOT HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE.

NEW YORK STATE DOESN'T RECOGNIZE A LANDLOCKED PARCEL THAT'S A LEGAL TERM THAT THEY DON'T USE IN NEW YORK STATE. SO WE SAY THAT IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE FRONTAGE ON THE ROAD.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS OF SOME SORT. IT MAY HAVE AN EASEMENT.

IT MAY HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY. BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED . SO THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE AN AERIAL PHOTO AND THEY'RE INDICATED AS SUCH. NUMBER 11 LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A FORMER FORMERLY USED AS A RESIDENCE 55 CUMMINGS AVENUE. THERE'S A CLEAR DRIVEWAY ESTABLISHED AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS SOME CLEARING OF WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN AN IMPROVEMENT THERE.

THAT ONE WAS VERY EASY TO FIND. IT'S A REALLY NICE CORNER PARCEL NUMBER 12 IS ANOTHER HOME THAT'S 25 TOMAHAWK DRIVE THAT'S TO APPEAR TO BE OCCUPIED.

SO WE TOOK SOME EXTERIOR PHOTOS ON THAT PROPERTY, POSTED A SIGN EVERYTHING IS POSTED A SIGN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONES THAT WE THAT DON'T HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE NUMBER 1333 WAYNE WAY AND THAT'S A LARGE HOME THAT WAS AND LOOKS TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BUT STOPPED QUITE A WAYS QUITE A WAYS BACK WE WERE ABLE TO GAIN ACCESS. I THINK WE TOOK 40 TO 50 INTERIOR PHOTOS OF THIS PROPERTY PLUS EXTERIOR PHOTOS. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF INTERIOR DUE DILIGENCE MATERIAL AVAILABLE FOR POTENTIAL BUYERS AT 33 WAYNE WAY THAT'S PROPERTY NUMBER 13 AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS ZERO PINEWOOD ROAD AGAIN THAT ONE APPEARS TO BE WITHOUT ROAD FRONTAGE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IS A REAR PARCEL AND YOU KNOW BUYERS SHOULD DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN ACTUALLY DO WITH THAT

PARCEL AND THAT'S OUR LIST CURRENTLY. >> I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION. THE SUPREME COURT CHANGED THE LAW, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE IMPACT OF FORECLOSURE IF SOMEBODY HASN'T PAID THEIR TAXES AND WE FORECLOSE YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES A TOWN GET? AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW DOES DO THE FORMER PROPERTY OWNERS WHAT ARE THEIR RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF RECOUPING SOME OF THEM THEY WON'T LOSE AS MUCH AS THEY DID BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT MADE THEIR

RULINGS. >> FRANK, I CAN EXPLAIN THAT. >> GO AHEAD IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

YEAH. >> SO EVERY MUNICIPALITY IS HANDLING IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY WHEN IT COMES TO ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. THERE ARE CAPS PER PROPERTY WHETHER IT'S A PERCENTAGE OR A FLAT FEE THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU KEEP IS WHAT YOU ARE OWED PLUS INTEREST AND PENALTIES AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND COSTS FOR DOING THE MAILING.

SO EVERYTHING THAT IDEALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU PUT INTO THE PROCESS YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO KEEP IT. THEN THE REST OF THE MONEY THE EQUITY THEY CALL IT IS GOING THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM. THE DELINQUENT HAS TO GO TO COURT TO GET THEIR MONEY BUT THEY CAN'T JUST GO AND ASK FOR THE EQUITY BECAUSE IF THERE'S A LIEN HOLDER LEAN HOLDERS GET PAID FIRST. SO IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE A MORTGAGE HOLDER, IF THEY HAVE ANY MEDICAL BILLS THAT ARE LEANED AGAINST THE PROPERTY, THOSE LIEN HOLDERS ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO THE COURT AND GET THOSE MONIES BEFORE ANY EQUITY IS PAID OUT TO THE DELINQUENT. WHAT YOU GUYS GET TO KEEP THOUGH ESPECIALLY SINCE THESE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR SO LONG YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PENALTIES ARE. OUR INTERESTS ARE BASED OFF OF

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HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN SITTING THERE. IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE VERY SMALL AMOUNTS OF EQUITY BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH AN OLD FORECLOSURE BUT IT IS I THINK THERE'S A IF I HAD A 2% OR 3% IS WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CHARGE AS AN ADMIN OR A FLAT FEE FOR A PROPERTY FOR SOME REASON I'M ONLY SAYING NINE PROPERTIES ARE YOU SEEING

13? >> JOE WE ORIGINALLY HAD 17 PROPERTIES ON THE LIST SO WE NUMBERED THEM FROM 1 TO 17 AND THAT'S WHAT WE VISITED. BUT THEN AS PROPERTIES ARE REMOVED FROM THE AUCTION WE JUST LEAVE THE NUMBERING THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE ALL OF OUR DATA FILES ARE TIED TO THOSE NUMBERS LIKE PHOTOGRAPHS, TAX MAPS ETC. SO RATHER THAN HAVING TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING WE JUST LEAVE GAPS IN THE SPACE I SEE. SO WHEN YOU WERE NUMBERING THE NUMBERS WAS WHERE THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS AND THE END RESULT IS THAT THERE ARE NINE EVEN THOUGH

IT GOES UP TO NUMBER 14, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

BECAUSE IN SOME COUNTIES WE'RE STARTING WITH 4 TO 500 PARCELS AND AS THEY GET REMOVED WE DON'T CRUNCH GREEN NUMBER IT WOULD CREATE A NIGHTMARE OF POTENTIAL ERROR.

SO WE JUST NEED SPACES. >> SO ONCE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THAT I'M JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ONCE YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S IT'S IT'S PRETTY EFFICIENT AND IT'S VERY CLEAR. SO THE NINE COULD REALLY TURN OUT TO BE 5 OR 6 BEFORE SO IT WOULD PROBABLY NOT AT THIS POINT THAT WE'RE SO LATE IN THE GAME BUT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE YES BUT THAT'S ALSO A GOOD POINT ABOUT HAVING ONLINE AUCTIONS AS WELL.

SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE TO COME OUT. THEY COULD DO IT FROM THEIR HOME AND THEY CAN CHECK OVER IN A TWO DAY PROCESS TO SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PUTTING

THEM IN. >> AND I NOTICE THAT THE BIDS CLOSE ON EACH PROPERTY ONE

MINUTE APART. >> I ASSUME THAT'S INTENTIONAL AND IT HAS A PURPOSE CORRECT? WHERE THE AUCTION CHANGES OVER TO WHAT'S CALLED A LIVE BIDDING PLATFORM AT 10:00 ON WEDNESDAY.

SO A WINDOW IS GOING TO POP UP FOR THE BIDDERS ON THE WEBSITE AND IT SAYS CLICK HERE FOR LIVE BIDDING AND IT BRINGS THEM TO A MORE KIND OF FUND THE INTERACTIVE THEY ONLY HAVE TO PUSH ONE BUTTON THE BID AND IT MOVES A LOT QUICKER AND IT'S IT'S REALLY JUST EXCITING SO IT BRINGS THEM TO ANOTHER BOARD THAT'S CALLED A LIVE BIDDING SCREEN AND WE DON'T WANT THEM ALL ENDING AT ONE TIME BECAUSE AT THE END WE HAVE A DYNAMIC AUCTION AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON EBAY YOU CAN PAY FOR SNIPER BIDDING AND OUTBID SOMEONE AT THE LAST SECOND USING A PAID PROGRAM WHEREAS OUR WEBSITE HAS A DYNAMIC ENDING THAT WILL CONTINUE TO EXTEND THE ITEM.

THE LOT WILL CONTINUE TO SEND IT EXTENDING UNTIL ALL THE BIDDING IS DONE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE MOST COMPETITIVE AMOUNT OF BIDDING IF SOMEONE IS HAVING AN INTERNET LOADING ISSUE AND THE LAW IS STILL EXTENDING THEY HAVE TIME TO PLACE THE BID SO IT'S TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH INTERACTION AS POSSIBLE BUT ALSO TO PREVENT EVERYONE FROM PREVENT SOMEONE FROM DOING A SNIPER BIDDING PROGRAM FOR EXAMPLE. IT'S WE DO ONE MINUTE APART.

IT JUST SEEMS TO WORK VERY WELL ON OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY AUCTIONS.

WE ACTUALLY AND THEN BETWEEN 15 SECONDS TO 30S APART WHICH JUST IS MEANT TO MOVE FASTER BUT ON THE ON REAL ESTATE AND TAX FORECLOSURE AUCTIONS ONE MINUTE SEEMS TO BE THE SWEET SPOT AND AND AND JUST AS PEOPLE CONTINUE AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BID IT EXTENDS THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND I ASSUME YOU WAIT TWO MINUTES YOU WAIT TWO MINUTES BEFORE AND WHEN THERE'S NO FURTHER BIDS

THAT'S WHEN YOU CLOSE IT OFF. >> THAT'S WHEN THE WEBSITE WILL AUTOMATICALLY CLOSE THE ITEM OFF. OKAY. BUT THEY COULD ALL SHOW UP ON THE SCREEN AT THE SAME TIME AND I BELIEVE WE'VE SET THE WEBSITE HAS A I THINK IT'S SIX PROPERTIES IS THE LIMIT ON THE LIVE BIDDING BOARD BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THEY'LL SHIFT AROUND ON THE WEBSITE SO WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE GETTING CONFUSED SO WE LIMIT ONLY SIX PROPERTIES. WE'LL SHOW UP IN THE LIVE BIDDING AT ONE TIME SO ANY PROPERTIES AFTER THAT WILL ACTUALLY CONTINUE EXTENDING AND WAITING UNTIL THE UNTIL THERE'S

A SPOT OPENED UP IN THE LIVE BIDDING BOARD FOR THEM. >> YOU MENTIONED THAT IF SOMEBODY IS FORECLOSED THE TOWN IS ENTITLED TO ADMINISTRATIVE YOU KNOW, FEES ON TOP OF INTEREST AND PENALTIES IF SOMEBODY AT THE LAST MINUTE SAY MAY 17TH DECIDES THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR HOUSE AND THEY SAY I'LL GIVE YOU A CHECK, YOU KNOW, PENALTIES, INTEREST AND ALL THE BACK TAXES WITH THE TOWN AT THAT POINT BE ABLE TO SAY WE ALSO WANT THE SAME

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ADMINISTRATOR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES SO WE SO WE BASICALLY SO SENDING OUT A LAST MINUTE LETTER IN NO WAY HURTS THE TOWN THAT THAT IS CORRECT BUT I HAVE BEEN TOLD ACTUALLY NO MORE PAYMENT PLANS AT THIS POINT IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND WANT TO PAY THE ABSOLUTE TOTAL

AMOUNT, I GUESS WE COULD HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THAT. >> BUT WE ARE BEYOND THE POINT OF PAYMENT PLANS, RIGHT? SO SO WOULD YOU THEN RECOMMEND THAT I DON'T SEND THAT ON

ANYTHING? >> I WOULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND YOU DON'T SEND ANYTHING OUT BECAUSE MANY, MANY NOTICES HAVE GONE OUT OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS AND THERE'S A POINT WHERE WE HAVE JUST EXHAUSTED ALL POSSIBILITIES AND AS YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE CLEARLY BEEN VACATED AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE EVEN TO BEGIN WITH.

SO I THINK YOU'VE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE BY SENDING OUT THE LETTERS IN THE PAST AND THAT WE

SHOULD PROCEED AT THIS POINT. >> OKAY. THEY DON'T TAKE THE LETTER SERIOUS UNTIL YOU HAVE AN OPTION AND PUT THE SIGN ON THEIR PROPERTY AND MOVE FORWARD. SO IT'S THIS AUCTION WILL BE A CATALYST FOR THE FUTURE AUCTIONS AND IN THE FUTURE WHEN THOSE YELLOW AND BLACK SIGNS GO UP YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE DELINQUENTS COMING IN AND TRYING TO MAKE PAYMENT PLANS AND TRYING TO GET THINGS PAID.

IT'S USUALLY THE FIRST TIME WE COME OUT INTO THE AREA THAT'S IT SETS THE EXAMPLE AND THEN IT TEACHES THEM THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER JUST NOT PAY THE TAXES AND SIT AND BASICALLY SQUAT ON THEIR PROPERTY AND ESPECIALLY WITH HOW LONG THAT THEY'VE BEEN WAITING TO MAKE THEIR NOT MAKE

THEIR PAYMENT. >> OKAY SO ON THE PAGE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND SAYS BITTERS SEMINAR WATCH NOW IS THAT THE SEMINAR THAT YOU'RE

RECOMMENDING THEY WATCH? >> YES I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE LINKS ARE ALL SET YET BUT WE'VE GOT PRERECORDED SEMINARS THAT GO THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS.

FRANK ACTUALLY DID ALL THOSE RECORDINGS. IT TELLS THEM HOW TO DO RESEARCH ON THE PROPERTY TO CHECK FOR, LEANS ON IT AND GO TO THE TOWN.

IT TRIES TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH EDUCATION AS POSSIBLE ON THE DUE DILIGENCE PART AND ALSO ON THE AUCTION PROCESS AND HOW THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS WORK PAYMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> I THINK THERE'S A TOTAL OF ABOUT THREE HOURS WORTH OF WEBINARS THAT PEOPLE CAN WATCH IF THEY ARE SO INCLINED. THERE'S ALSO A PRACTICE DOWN PAYMENT SCHEDULE.

THERE'S AN EXCEL FILE WHERE THEY CAN PUT IN THEIR POTENTIAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE MONEY THEY NEED TO PAY ON THE DAY. SO WE REALLY TRIED TO FRONTLOAD EVERYTHING TO BE INFORMATIVE. YEAH THAT'S THE CALCULATOR THE DOWN PAYMENT CALCULATOR WE DID GET, GREENBERG ADDED SO THAT'S ALL SET AND READY TO GO AND A LINK FOR THAT WILL SHOW UP IN EACH OF THE PROPERTIES SO THAT A BUYER CAN USE THAT AS AN EASY WAY TO FIGURE OUT THEIR DOWN PAYMENT REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYBODY WHO SIGNED UP FOR THE LIST WE WILL MAKE SURE WE SEND ALL THAT ALL THE INFORMATION OUT TO YOU AS WELL. WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED ON THAT LIST VILLAGE CLERKS, MAYORS AND COUNCIL SO THAT THEY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS BEING AUCTIONED AS WELL. AND SO WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY.

HOW MANY PROPERTIES ARE IN VILLAGES? >> I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBER RIGHT NOW. WELL IT TELLS YOU ON I'M JUST YEAH AND I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE REFERRING TO UPCOMING ONES AS THIS ONE RIGHT YEAH WE DID IT DOESN'T SEEM AS TARRYTOWN DOES VERY THERE'S A FEW AS IF YOU SO IF THE VILLAGE LIKE SAY IF A VILLAGE WOULD WANT TO USE IT FOR A PURPOSE THEY WOULD GET THE FIRST THE FIRST RIGHT OR THEN THEY WOULD MAKE BIDS WHEN WHEN IT OPENS THERE'S THREE LOCKS BUT TECHNICALLY FOUR PROPERTIES IF YOU CONSIDER THE TWO LOTS AND THE FIRST IN LOT ONE THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES IN LOT ONE BUT THERE'S FOUR VILLAGE IN TOTAL AND THE AUCTION THANK YOU BECAUSE I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE AUCTION I THINK WE OFFERED BOTH HASTINGS AND ISLEY, YOU KNOW, LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU KNOW IF AS A POLICY IN THIS COULD BE YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD ALSO IF THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO SAY WE'LL DO THE SAME THING IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, LAND AND THE VILLAGE WANTS IT FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE, WE WOULD GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO WE COULD TAKE A PROPERTY OFF A BIT LESS AND SAY IF I COULD DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THAT BEFORE WEIGHING IN I WOULD I ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND. GO AHEAD, JENNIFER. THANK YOU.

I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT ESTABLISHING WHAT THE EQUITY IS

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FOR THE DELINQUENT AND A DELINQUENT COULD TRY TO SUE YOU IF YOU JUST GIVE IT TO THE TOWN OR THE VILLAGE YOU'D GIVE IT TO ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY. YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH WHAT YOUR THE EQUITY IS ON A 1 TO 3 FAMILY HOUSE. YOU CAN GET AN APPRAISAL DONE TO DO THAT OTHERWISE IT DOES NEED TO GO TO AUCTION TO DETERMINE WHAT THE EQUITY VALUE IS ON IT. YOU CAN NO LONGER JUST SELL IT TO THE MUNICIPALITY FOR BACK TAXES DUE TO THE DELINQUENT RUNNING THEIR PORTION OF IT. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO NOW THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THAT THOUGH YOU CAN HAVE AN AUCTION TWO TIMES IN A ROW 60 DAYS APART AND IF IT DOES NOT SELL THEN YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT IT NO LONGER HAS EQUITY AND YOU CAN THEN GIVE IT TO THE MUNICIPALITY AT THE VERY LEAST IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE THE VILLAGE WHERE I KNOW THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO IN HASTINGS THEY WERE NOT ADVISED AND THE PIECE OF PROPERTY YOUR PROPERTY WAS SOLD OUT FROM UNDER THEM AND THEY WERE IT WAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY COULD HAVE USED FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE AND WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE USED.

>> SO THAT'S STILL UPSET ABOUT IT. >> YEAH THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY PARTICIPATE IN THE AUCTION. WE'VE HAD MUNICIPALITIES SIGN UP AND THERE'S A VOTE WE HAVE TO PLAY A LITTLE WITH THEIR PAPERWORK BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME THING AS A BUSINESS BUT WE ABSOLUTELY GET MUNICIPALITIES IN AND THEY PARTICIPATE EQUALLY JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND THEN THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IF IT'S EQUITY AND WHAT IT IS AND THE VALUE THEY CAN BUY IT RIGHT AND THE OPTION IF THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PRICE IT

REDUCES LAWSUITS. >> RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

YEAH, IT'S REALLY MORE THE RESPECT OF LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY IS GOING INTO FORECLOSURE AND THAT WE WILL BE AUCTIONING IT AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT YOU SUGGESTED, WE CAN TAKE ONE OF THOSE ACTIONS, WE WILL SEND NOW THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING FINALIZED WE WILL BE SENDING PROBABLY FLIERS DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE AUCTION.

WE DON'T NEED TO PRINT LIKE A 12 PAID FOR SURE WHEN YOUR OPTIONS ARE LARGER WE WILL DO A MULTI PAGE FOR SURE BUT FOR THIS ONE WE'LL PROBABLY MAKE A DOUBLE SIDED FLIER OR AA4 PAGE FLIER AND SEND IT TO ALL OF THE VILLAGES AND THE TOWN SO THAT IF A BUYER COMES INTO THE MUNICIPAL THE TOWN HALL CITY, THE VILLAGE HALLS THEY CAN PICK THEM UP AT THOSE LOCATIONS AS WELL. SO WE ARE GOING TO PUT THOSE INTO THE MAIL.

THOSE SHOULD BE OUT EITHER BY FRIDAY OR MONDAY. WE'LL GET THEM IN THE MAIL TO OF THE THE SEATS THE MAIN SEATS OF THOSE AREAS. EXCELLENT.

WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU'RE CERTAINLY YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH EMAIL BUYERS ARE GOING TO START CALLING US LIKE CRAZY. THEY ALREADY STARTED AS SOON AS THINGS GET POSTED I HAVE A WHOLE OFFICE FULL OF PEOPLE THAT WILL WALK THEM THROUGH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEND THEM.

>> THANK YOU. VERY WELL DONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. >> YOU TOO.

THANKS. OKAY, NEXT THE MIRANDA READS A MIRANDA 172 NORTH SUMMER RIVER

ROAD FOR TWO. >> YEAH. HELLO.

GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE ARE YOU JUST PRESS THAT MAKES ALL TURNS GREAT.

>> AWESOME IF YOU JUST GIVE US OH SWEET. >> YEAH, PERFECT.

>> SO THAT'S WHAT I RECEIVED TODAY. OKAY.

YES. YES. >> OH YEAH, YEAH.

WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE SIGNED ON IF WE WOULD INTERFERE WITH WHO IS TALKING I COULD SEE

ALSO I HAVE SOME NOT TAKING THAT RIGHT HERE. >> GARRETT SAID HE'S LETTING DOWN. OH YEAH? YEAH I TOOK SO NOW WE HAVE A HARD COPIES COPY. MAKE SURE ON THE COPY PART IF YOU DID ALL RIGHT YOU NICE RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH, I HAVE MY OWN TOO.

YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO CONTROL IT JUST GO TO YOU. I THINK WE COULD JUST YEAH,

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JUST CLICK ON IT. ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT WORK? YEAH. YEAH, I JUST CAN'T. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE COULD SCREEN. YEAH. YEAH.

OH, RIGHT, RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM YOU SHOULD DO IN YOUR COMPUTER SLIDESHOW IS UP TOP THE MIDDLE ON THE TOP OH HERE IT IS FROM THE BEGINNING. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. >> THERE YOU GO. PERFECT EVENING.

>> HI, ALL GOOD EVENING. GREATEST CITY. THE MICROPHONE CLOSER.

IT'S GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM SARA MARANDI.

>> I WANT TO BRING THE MICROPHONE. OKAY I'M REZA MARANDI AND I'M

ESPERANZA MARANDI. >> ALL THE MARANDI SET HERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REMEMBER THERE FAMILY DO SO WE ARE THE OWNERS OF 172 NORTHMOOR MILL WE WERE HERE WITH YOU GUYS NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH WEST HAB AND WE ALSO JUST WANTED TO FILL YOU IN WITH WHY THAT DEAL DID NOT GO THROUGH. WE HAVE A BIGGER VISION FOR OUR SITE AND WHAT WEST HAVE WAS PROPOSING WAS A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEAL WHICH WOULD BE 100 PLUS UNITS OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WELCOMING PEOPLE FROM HALFWAY HOMES AND SHELTERS FROM THE NEIGHBORING AREAS AND WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THAT WAS QUITE THE RIGHT FIT FOR THIS SITE AS WE HAVE A BIGGER AND BRIGHTER VISION FOR THE HOMES OFFERED AND GREENSBURG TOWNS AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COMPLETELY REDEVELOP AND SO WE'RE HERE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROJECT AND WHERE WE SEE IT HEADING. BUT YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING THE WORD PROJECT PROPERTY ANYMORE,

ARE YOU? >> NO, NO. SO THIS IS SO THE AGREEMENT SOLD ELEMENT IS PART OF IT AND THEY OWN I MEAN PART OF THE PROPERTY IS IN ELLSWORTH.

WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SUPPORT SOMEHOW INVOLVED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW BUT WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH BOB REGARDING THIS FOR A PROJECT AND DEVELOPMENT AND HE HE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE ESPECIALLY SO IS THIS LIKE PARTIALLY IN THE VILLAGE OF ELLSWORTH IS ABOUT MAYBE MAYBE A SMALL PORTION IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF A VILLAGE OF RIGHT RIGHT ON THE NEXT TO THAT EMPTY LOT THAT'S SO THAT'S NOT TO GO THROUGH ELLSWORTH FOR YEAH THE ZONING AND WE DON'T OWN THAT PIECE OF THE LAND NO NO I GUESS I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT MY HUSBAND MEANT WE I DON'T THINK WE ARE USING THAT LOT EMPTY LOT ON THE SIDE. NO WE ARE NOT THE ONLY STATE WHERE WE ARE.

OUR PROPERTY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF OWNERSHIP AND THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT AND THE OTHER OWNER BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS AND FOR A LONG AS LONG AS WE BEEN THERE THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THE OTHER OWNER. I THOUGHT THE EMPTY LOT NEXT TO IT IS A ACCORDING TO BOB IS AN EYESORE IN THE VILLAGE OF ANSON RIGHT RIGHT BUT SO YOU WOULD BE GETTING THE BUILDING APPROVED BY GREENBERG AND ELM STREET IF YOU HAVE A EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL PIECE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AERIAL. YEAH. YEAH.

SO YES. WHERE IS THE BUILDING IN RELATIONSHIP TO? WE CAN SHOW YOU THAT LIKE A HALF PERCENT OF THE OVERALL LOT THEY MIGHT JUST GET IT.

YEAH SURE. AND I HAVE VERY LITTLE CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE COME TO IT THAT PROJECT WE DON'T YEAH AWESOME SO THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE CONDITIONS AS YOU CAN SEE WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR WELL OVER 40 YEARS AND IT'S SERVED ITS PURPOSE AND WE'RE HERE TO AS LANDOWNERS AND STEWARDS OF THE LAND TO KIND OF TRANSFORM IT AND NOT JUST PASS IT OFF TO A DEVELOPER TO MAKE A BUCK ON IT BUT RATHER TO REALLY OWN WHAT WE HAVE AND CAPITALIZE ON WHAT THIS LAND CAN OFFER. SO RIGHT NOW IT STANDS AS AN AGING A NON-CONFORMING UNIT SPACE AND OF COURSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S OURS IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT'S A BIT OF AN EYESORE.

AND AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUES TO POPULATE WITH REALLY BIG HIT ITEMS JUST DOWN THE STREET LIKE SAM'S CLUB AND THE NEW SHOP RIGHT. EVERYBODY IS COMING INTO VISION WITH THIS PROPERTY AS THEY DRIVE DOWN NINE. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT

ITS POTENTIAL. >> SO AS WE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW IT'S A NONCONFORMING EIGHT FAMILY DWELLING AND SITS ON HALF AN ACRE AND THIS BACK VIEW YOU CAN SEE IS LAWN AVENUE WHICH HAS A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RIDING ON THE TOP OF IT.

THE ELEVATION IS A PRETTY LARGE GAP. SO IT'S KIND OF ON A HILL RIGHT

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BEHIND US AS YOU GUYS MAY KNOW. >> SO WHICH DIRECTION, WHICH SIDE IS YOUR BUILDING UNDER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN GO BACK IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT'S GREEN AS A VERTICAL EIGHT. YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT UP OPPOSITE OF THAT HYDRANT OPPOSITE FROM OUTSIDE IT'S HEIGHT OF THE HEIGHT I'M SORRY SIDE OF THE HYDRANT.

YEAH. YES. YEAH YEAH, YEAH.

AND OKAY GO AHEAD. NO, GO AHEAD. WELL THE BASICALLY IT IS AT THIS RENDERING I'M PROJECT I'M WHAT THE BUILDING WAS PRESENTED TO GARRETT WHITE BACK AND HE HAD A COUPLE OF GOOD POINT RIGHT TO MAKE THE HEIGHT TO MATCH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AND RIGHT ACROSS THAT HYDRANT THE HEIGHT IS ABOUT ROUGHLY ABOUT THREE PLUS A STORY BECAUSE SITTING ON TOP OF THE ROCK SO HE KEPT THAT LINE BE CHANGED A PLAN TO MEET WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND ALSO TO MAKE THAT WHAT GARRETT PROPOSED BACK IN TIME AND THAT STREET IS GREENBURG THE OPPOSITE CHELMSFORD NORTH LAWN AVENUE I THINK RIGHT AFTER THAT THE HYDRANT GOING THAT WAY IS REALLY GOING UP. WHATEVER THEY CALL IT IS GOING BACK. YEAH SO THAT'S ALSO ON A BORDER .

>> SO WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING IS A 65 UNIT BUILDING AS YOU CAN SEE WOULD BE A REALLY STATE OF THE ART BUILDING. WE'RE LOOKING TO DO FULL ELECTRIFICATION, ZERO CARBON EMISSIONS A REALLY FULLY GREEN LEED BUILDING AND WE WANT TO DO A MIXED UNIT HOUSING OF 20 STUDIOS, 31 BEDS, 15 TWOS AND THEN WE WANT TO DEDICATE 15% OF OUR UNITS TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE BELIEVE THAT OLMSTEAD AND GREENBURG, YOU KNOW, BOTH TOWNS JUST REALLY HAVE A LARGE WORKFORCE OF AMBULATORY PEOPLE FIRE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS, NURSES, TEACHERS THAT ARE KIND OF SHORT END ON THE HOUSING CRISIS AND ARE OUT OF OPTIONS OF PLACES TO LIVE.

SO EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO REAL REQUIREMENT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING WE'D LOVE TO DEDICATE WHAT AM I TO THAT THE AM I THE BASED ON WHAT WE WHAT WE RESEARCH OF THOSE BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THE TARRYTOWN ROAD I BELIEVE APEX IS ONE OF THEM AND INVESTIGATE AND WE DON'T THE ARMY IS AROUND BETWEEN 75 TO 45 BUT THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 5560 AND YES.

>> YEAH THANKS. JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED ENOUGH WITH WHERE THEY LIVE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG CHELMSFORD IS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG SO WHEN WE SAY GREENBURG WE MEAN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG RIGHT? RIGHT. THANK YOU. RIGHT.

OKAY. VILLAGE OF ELMS FOR JUSTICE GREENBURG.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF BRINGING IN THOSE WORKFORCE HOUSINGS AND THOSE UNITS MAKE THEM AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE SO OUR STUDIOS WOULD BE ROUGHLY 600 SQUARE 500FT2. THE ONE BEDROOM IS ABOUT 650 TO 700 THE TWO BEDROOMS ABOUT 800FT2 AND THEN THE TEN UNITS WOULD BE A MIX OF STUDIOS ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDS.

>> OF OF THAT 15% JUST TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE TO THAT 10% THAT BE EQUATED TO 15% REQUIREMENT IS 10% FOR THIS KIND OF PROPERTY WILL BE INCREASE IT TO 15% JUST TO ANOTHER INCENTIVE I GUESS JUST TO TURN OUT TO TURN THE IMAGE TO RECAP THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR AT 80% WOULD BE 136,000 AS A FRAME OF REFERENCE. OKAY INCOME NOT TO EXCEED

136,000 FOR A HOUSEHOLD BEFORE THAT'S 80% RIGHT. >> THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS RATHER SMALL RIGHT? SO YEAH I THINK THOSE NUMBERS COULD BE WORKED OUT.

>> THEY'RE NOT FINALIZED AND FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS WE COULD DEFINITELY ALLOCATE A LARGER SIZE WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE A FAMILY OF FOUR RIGHT? WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT WITH OUR ARCHITECTS AT CUTLER AND AND MAKE THE SIZING OF THAT BIGGER BUT THOSE NUMBERS GO DOWN SO LIKE STUDIOS YOU KNOW ANTICIPATED 1 OR 2 PEOPLE THOUGH THAT NUMBER GOES DOWN BUT THAT 136 GIVES YOU A ROUGH FRAME OF REFERENCE 80 DOES IT SAY ON THERE THE ONE PERSON NO,

THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. >> SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH OUR ARCHITECTURE RENDERINGS WERE DONE BY CUTLER RAY.

THEY'RE AWESOME ARCHITECTS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING OUR VISION TO LIFE AND WE REALLY WANTED TO DO A THREE STORY BUILDING JUST TO ACCOMMODATE AND BLEND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. AND THEN THERE'S AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A STEP DOWN TO THE

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PROPERTY ON THE BACK SIDE OF NORTH LAWN JUST TO KIND OF MATCH THE NORTH LAWN AVENUE HOMES AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF DOING A GREEN ROOF.

SOLAR PANELS MAKE IT A COMMUNITY SPACE ON THE TOP THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY USE THEIR HOMES. AND THEN WE ALSO WERE ENVISIONING A COMMUNITY CENTER KIND OF A WORK FROM HOME CENTER ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR TO KIND OF GIVE PEOPLE THAT FEEL OF WORK PLAY ALL IN ONE SPACE RIGHT ON NINE A NUMBER OF THE WHITE LITTLE BLOCKS OR HOMES NO THE WHITE ONE THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS A DUNKIN DONUTS RIGHT NOW OR THE ONE IN THE BACK OR THE

HOMES. >> YES. THESE THAT THOSE ARE HOMES.

YES. YES, YES. >> AND THIS IS THE DUNCAN

DUNCAN IS ON THE NINE EIGHT NEXT TO IT, RIGHT? >> YEAH, ON THE ON NINE.

SO I GUESS YOU JUST MENTIONED I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE ON THE FLOOR LIKE A STUDY AREA AND STUFF LIKE SO COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT

MORE ON WHAT YOUR VISION IS ON THAT? >> YEAH, I THINK AFTER COVID A LOT OF PEOPLE ENDED UP STICKING AROUND AT HOME AND THERE'S NOT MANY PLACES TO GO.

SO THIS IDEA A LOT OF BUILDINGS ARE MOVING TOWARDS WORK PLAY WHERE YOU CAN WORK LIVE AND DO EVERYTHING FROM YOUR APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO WE WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING KIND OF A COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE TOWN THE VILLAGE COME AND DO SOME SHOWS AND THEN ALSO HAVE WI FI ACCESS A MEETING SPACE MEETING ROOMS, A FITNESS CENTER TO KIND OF HAVE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE TRUE OWNERS AND GET FULL USE OF THE PROPERTY.

>> SO IF YOU SELL ARE YOU ARE YOU SELLING THE PROPERTIES SO YOU'RE MAKING IT OR THESE RENTALS RENTAL RENTAL RENT? YES. IS IT A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME HOME OWNERSHIP HERE? OH, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW I MEAN WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT BUT YOU MEAN GOING CONDO MAYBE HAVE A POT MAYBE HAVE BHATIA DOES HAVE THAT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY ALSO OF COURSE I MEAN RIGHT NOW YOU'RE DOING A MARKET RATE APARTMENT AND BUILDING WHATEVER SO I DON'T MENTION WITH THE COMMUNITY BOARD AND WHATNOT THAT THAT'S WHAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT I KNOW WE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION QUITE A FEW TIMES JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN INCREASE THE HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE TOWN COMMUNITY .

>> SO IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE MAYBE WE TALK ABOUT MIXED USE.

I KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE THAT BUT YEAH, IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY I DON'T KNOW BUT I THINK YOU CAN HAVE CONVERSATION WITH GARRETT AND SEE IF THAT'S A

POLICY TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. >> I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU ENVISION THREE STORIES WHERE THE THREE STORIES THAT'S IN THE BACK OF NON-NORTH LAWN AVENUE WHICH WE HAD IT FOR BUT BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE CARRIED BACK IN THE TIME WE HAVE DROPPED IT DOWN TO THREE TO MATCHSTICKS EXISTING HIGH APARTMENT OLD HOUSE WHICH IS A RIGHT ACROSS OUT ON THE TOP OF THE ROCK ROCKET SO THAT ABOUT WHAT THREE SO THE SETBACKS FROM FROM THE RESIDENTIAL THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET ARE CONFORMING THE PLAN IT'S GOING TO BE SHOWING THAT THEN WE GOT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND TALK TO GUY TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT ZONING WE NEED TO CHANGE AND WE GO FROM THERE.

>> YEAH IN THE BACK IN THE FRONT SO IT'S THREE STORIES IN THE BACK AND HOW MANY AND SEVEN. SEVEN YEAH SORRY LIKE THAT RENDERING IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR IN THE BACK AND THAT'S THE PART THAT'S STILL AROUND TO THE PARKING BUT IF YOU SEE IT LOOKING FOR WHEN YOU YEAH PARKING OVER HERE YEAH IN THE PARKING IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE WHAT THE HECK IS THE UPPER LEFT UPPER YEAH SO THREE LIVING FLOORS AND A PARKING LEVEL.

>> YES THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND WITH THAT MANY UNITS WE I MEAN MAYBE THIS IS REALLY CRAZY TO ASK BUT WOULD THERE BE A SUPERINTENDENT ON STAFF? OF COURSE LIVING THERE.

>> YES THAT YES YES. ONE, TWO, THREE. JUST REAL QUICK ONE JUMP IN YOU THE ARMY THERE IS THE ONE PERSON STATISTIC 71,000 IS 60%. THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM I AND

80% 95,000. YEAH OF COURSE. >> THANK YOU.

SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS? YOU KNOW GARRETT OKAY. RIGHT WELL I THINK LET SOME GOES I THINK THERE'S MORE TO PRESENT YES YEAH SO WE WE'LL GET TO PROCESS YES ALL RIGHT SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SOLAR PANELS, THE GREEN ROOF SPACE WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY ADD BACK TO THE THE GRID OF THE BUILDING AND WE HOPE TO MAKE IT FULLY SELF-SUFFICIENT. A POOL OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THIS IS IN PLANNING YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPE AND GREEN SPACES, BIO SWELLS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY

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INFILTRATION BASINS TO KIND OF TAKE ON ANY OF THE STORMWATER THAT'S COMING FROM NINE A MY BACKGROUND IS I'M A WASTEWATER RESOURCE ENGINEER SO THAT IS MY LOVE.

HE'S ALSO A WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NERD AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING INTO IT'S BASICALLY FLOOD MITIGATION WHAT WHAT WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DO YOU CALLED IT BIAS.

WELL INSTEAD OF DUMPING ALL THE RAINWATER INTO THE CATCH BASINS THAT END UP BEING IN A TREATMENT PLANT AND NEED TREATMENT AND IF IT'S A HEAVY RAIN THEY CAN HANDLE IT.

SO WHAT THEY DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IN NEW YORK CITY, ALL FIVE BOTTLES WHICH I WAS IN CHARGE OF IT THEY THEY CALL SOMETHING LIKE MINUS TO ALL THE BUILDINGS PLANT ALONG THE SIDEWALK BUT THE RAIN COMES IN FIRST IT GOES THROUGH THE PLANTER IS INTO THE LOWER GREAT LOWER GROUND. ANYTHING EXCESS OF THAT WOULD END UP IN A CATCH BASIN WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WATER WHICH RAINWATER THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE TREATED AND THEY CALL IT BIOCIDE WHICH IS A VERY ,VERY SUCCESSFUL ACTUALLY PROGRAM THAT THE PEOPLE DON'T.

I I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED SO YOU'RE GIVING US YOU'RE GIVING US COSTS, YOU'RE GIVING US I'M SORRY I THINK I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AT THE TAXES NOW WELL THAT'S GOOD TIMING.

>> THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY I GUESS I GOT TO SAY I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE TIME TO GET IT HERE HE WAS A WATER GUY TOWN I HAVE TO SAY TANK TO GUY AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO SUGGESTED TO

SHOW THESE THINGS BECAUSE HE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. >> I RIGHT DOWN FROM 35,000 TO ALMOST $600,000 WHICH A MAJORITY OF THEM WERE 50% GOES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ONE OF THE BIG SUPPORTER IS THE CHANCELLOR OF THE SCHOOL AND THE NATURE COUNCIL IS CALLED THE DISTRICT IS A LIGHT BULB SO RIGHT NOW AS YOU CAN SEE THE ANNUAL TAXES ARE 35 GRAND AND WITH THE MAX WITH THE LOT SIZE NOW IF WE WERE TO BUILD THE MAX CAPACITY OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY ITS OWN FOUR FOR 12 UNITS WOULD BE MAKING GENERATING 75,000 JUST MARGINALLY MORE OF WHAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY. BUT IF WE WERE TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WE'D BRING IN NEARLY $600,000 IN TAXES ANNUALLY WHICH I THINK IS INCREDIBLE AND IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING AWAY SOMETHING FROM THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG, BUT WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR THIS VARIANCE SO THAT WE CAN UNLOCK SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN LEFT ON THE TABLE FOR DECADES AND SEE HOW WE CAN INJECT THAT BACK INTO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THAT WOULD BE A WIN SITUATION.

I'VE PROPOSED RENTS FOR THESE DIFFERENT WE HAVE AND WE HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THAT YET BUT BASED ON MY SURVEY INVESTIGATION OF A NEWLY DEVELOPED APEX AND A SIMILAR ONE THAT ON ON THAT QUARTER OF NINE A AND AVALON YES THE RENTS ARE VERY HIGH THERE AND WE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO BE THERE. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO BREAK THAT DOWN A BALLPARK OR FOR A STUDIO WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR EACH FOR EACH 1 TO 4 STUDIO WELL WHAT I WHAT I GATHER AGAIN BY GOING TO THESE PLACES AND ASKING FOR RENTAL THE NUMBER FOR A STUDIO WAS ABOUT 30 TO 100 THAT THAT THAT COMPORTS WITH YOUR 65 IS NOT WELL I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR NUMBERS ARE GOES FOR ALL THE ART IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE MUCH LOWER THAN THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND YES YEAH I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WHILE IT'S GREAT THAT YOU WANT TO DO 15% SET ASIDE IF THE REST OF IT IS SO LUXURY OR ASTRONOMICAL IT REALLY DOESN'T FIT INTO THE AREA THAT YOU'RE

PROPOSING. SO I JUST WE UNDERSTAND THAT. >> YEAH, I AGREE TOO.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO DEFINITELY ELEVATE THE COMMUNITY BUT NOT TAKE ON THIS TOP DOWN APPROACH WHERE WE'RE DROPPING IN, YOU KNOW, A SUPER REFINED LUXURY SPACE WHERE NO ONE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD IT AT THE START OF THIS WHOLE THING WE WERE REALLY INVOLVED WITH PEOPLE IN GREENBERG AND THE COMMUNITY SERVERS IN THE TOWN.

AS YOU GUYS MAY KNOW, JOE HAHN AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE REALLY, REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A SPACE THAT GOES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN OWNERS AND HAVE DEEP TIES TO THE LAND FOR X AMOUNT OF DECADES WE KIND OF WANT TO TRANSFORM IT RIGHT AND REVITALIZE THE AREA AND JUST KIND OF MATCH AND BLEND INTO THE AREA.

>> BUT ELEVATE IT OF COURSE. BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO SOME CRAZY WE'RE NOT BRINGING

PARK AVENUE. >> YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JULIET THE ONE THAT IS

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OPENING UP NOW ON MAMARONECK AVENUE. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE JULIE DIFFERENT IN THE VILLAGE OF ELM STREET CAME OUT FOR THIS, RIGHT? YES. YES. WE HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO YOU KNOW WOULD BE BORDERING THIS PROPERTY?

>> YES, I SPOKE TO THE GUY ON WHEN YOU GO UP TO THE NORTH LAWN AVENUE, THE ONLY HOUSE THAT THE OWNER STILL RENTAL BUT HE SHOWS UP EVERY SO OFTEN TO BLOW THE LEAVES HE HE WAS VERY, VERY ACTUALLY IMPRESSED WITH THEM AND I SHOWED HIM THE DRAWING SO THE PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE THE STREETS THAT WOULD BE WOULD BE NORTH LAWN AVENUE LAWN ANY ANY ANYONE ELSE.

>> DUNKIN DONUTS, DUNKIN DONUTS THEY'RE VERY HAPPY THEY THEY THEY ALL THE IDEA OF ADDING A JERSEY SHORE IN ADDITION TO DUNKIN DONUTS THERE THEY'RE VERY HAPPY JIMMY I WAS TALKING TO HIM ACTUALLY BUILDING THE DUNKIN DONUTS IT'S OH MY GOD I'M GOING TO INCREASE MYSELF

BECAUSE OF THIS. >> IF YOU BUILD THIS 65 ZERO. SO I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO ONE I

KNOW YOU SPOKE TO ONE FAMILY. >> SO HOW MANY FAMILIES ON THE BLOCK ARE THEY ALL RENT HOT.

I WANT TO THE RIGHT OF IT IS A RENTAL NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES AND I COULD NEVER FIND IT.

I KNEW THE EX OWNER HE DIED PASSED AWAY WHAT, SEVERAL YEARS AGO THEY WANTED A LEFT ACTUALLY HE'S A DPW WORKER DOWN OF GOOD LAWN AVENUE NOT LONG AVENUE YET.

>> AND YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM LIKE MAYBE HAVE I SHOWED HIM PUBLIC LIKE I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR ALL THE FAMILIES LETTERS ANYTHING SO EVERYONE IS AWARE OF WHAT THE PROPOSED PROBLEM NOT YES WE WE WERE GOING TO GET YOUR BLESSING FOR TO SEE WHICH WAY WE WENT AHEAD THEN WE CAN START THE ADVERTISING TO THE COMMUNITY, TO CHURCH.

>> YOU KNOW THE PASTOR WHO'S WHO OPERATE ON THAT CHURCH AT THE END OF NORTH LAWN AVENUE TOWARD THE SHOP. RIGHT. WE CAN HAVE A MEETING ON ONE OF THESE SUNDAY MASS AND TRY TO BRING IT UP TO EVERYBODY CAN PUT YOU IN CONTACT.

YES. IF YOU HAVE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

YES. SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE EXISTING PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING? WELL, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE GRANDCHILDREN BORN AND LIVE THERE.

THAT SHOWS HOW WHAT A NICE PLACE IT'S NOT BECAUSE I WAS RUNNING IT BECAUSE THE RENT WAS ALWAYS LOW COMPARED TO WHATEVER ELSE EVERYBODY ELSE WERE PAYING AND I WANT TO CUBA I WANT TO PUT HIM ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAS BE THE FIRST ONE TO GIVE OFFER THEM IF THEY WANT ONE BEDROOM STUDIO OR TWO BEDROOM. I DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THE

RENTS THAT THEY'RE PAYING COMPARABLE. >> I MEAN WILL THEY BE ABLE TO

AFFORD THEM? >> NO, NO. BUT WHAT THE FORCE HOUSING WELL WORKFORCE HOUSING BASICALLY WAS DESIGNED FOR WORK FORCE LIKE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER.

YEAH. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THEY WOULD AFFORD THE KINDS OF YOU KNOW STARTING 3500 FIRST BE WE HAPPY HIGH PLAN I SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT WHEN WE GET READY TO MOVE THEM OUT AND PREPARE SOME SORT OF ARRANGEMENT THAT STAY SOMEWHERE UNTIL WE BUILD IT AND

COME BACK AND BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. >> SO I'M ASSUMING YOU WOULD HAVE COSTS PRIOR SO THEY WOULD YES. SO YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE BECAUSE THERE IS A CONCERN AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS IS ALLUDING TO JUST YOU HAVE YOU HAVE FAMILIES HAS BEEN PAYING A LOW AMOUNT FOR CERTAIN FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND NOW WE HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THEY MAY BE

COST OUT. >> SO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE HOW WE CAN YOU KNOW, NOT WE DEFINITELY AS I SAID I KNOW I KNOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND THEY HAVE THEY HAVE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN RAISE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. AND THE OLDER I AM AND I CAN'T EVEN BRING THEM YOU CAN INTERVIEW THEM TOO AND WE WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THEM. I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW

BUT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR IT. >> YES. YEAH IT WILL THE WILL THE AMENITIES THE POOL BE AVAILABLE TO THE WORK FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING WILL BE OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE RIGHT OVER. YEAH.

I'M SORRY. ALL THE MONIES WILL BE AFFORDED TO EVERYONE.

TO EVERYONE RIGHT NOW THIS WANT THEM AS LONG AS YOU LIVE THERE YOU CAN USE EVERY INCH OF THE

BUILDING SHOULD BE THEIRS. YEAH. >> ANDY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. I'M I GUESS I NEVER SAID THAT TOGETHER, BUT ONE OF THE OFFER THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PUT ON THE TABLE ALSO IS THERE'S A PARK ON THE CORNER OF NORTH LAWN AVENUE AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE ENTRY ANNOUNCEMENT. WE CAN SPEND SOME MONEY TO FIX THAT PARK TO PART OF THE ZONING W GOING TO GET WE CAN ARRANGE THAT PARK TO BE UPGRADED SO IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBOR AND PARKING WILL BE THAT AMENITY IS ALSO PART AND PARCEL OF ANY RENT THEY'RE NOT WOULD THEY BE PARKED PAYING FOR PARKING SPACES IN THE GARAGE THAT BASED ON WHATEVER ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OUT THERE EVERYBODY PAY FOR

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A PARKING LOT JUST TO ADD THE INCOME SO WE CAN REDUCE THE RENT FOR SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO HOUSE THAT THEY CANNOT AFFORD THAT THAT KIND OF RIGHT.

>> YES. WHAT THE PRICE THE NUMBER THE NUMBER FOR THEM IS DIFFERENT.

AS I SAID RIGHT NOW THEY CHARGE ALMOST 250 FOR A CAR IN APEX. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE.

SO WHEN WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2016, WE DIDN'T ENVISION A BUILDING THIS SIZE. BUT WE'RE NOW AT THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING THIS MORNING ABOUT KICK STARTING YOU KNOW, A REVISION NOT A FULL BLOWN REVISION LIKE WE DID BEFORE BUT AT LEAST UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT MAY BE IN THAT IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE PROPOSED. WE'RE ALSO DOING 280 OF CHAPTER MEANT AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 25 VERY SIGNIFICANT ONES WHICH MAY ACCOMMODATE THIS BUT GARY, COULD YOU SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THE

CURRENT PLAN IS? >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN QUESTION RIGHT. THERE'S ONE THING THE BOARD WANTS TO AVOID AS A SPOT ZONE AND IF ANY BOARD WOULD WANT TO AVOID A SPOT ZONE WHICH IS SINGLING OUT A CERTAIN PROPERTY FOR A REASON BUT REALLY SPOT ZONE IS DEFINITELY TIED TO LIKE AN ARBITRARY DECISION WHAT I DO BELIEVE DOESN'T MAKE A DECISION TO CONSIDER REZONING HERE IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS

MULTIFAMILY. >> SO I THINK IT'S REASONS TO CONSIDER A REASON TO MULTIFAMILY EVEN IF IT INCREASES DENSITY BUT ULTIMATELY PROCESS WISE IS THIS BUILDING YOU KNOW THE RIGHT DENSITY TO CONSIDER IS THIS BUILDING THE RIGHT CONFIGURATION THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE AT THE END OF A PROCESS THAT INVOLVES RESIDENTS, THE PLANNING BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD TO BE SEEN? IT IS WITHIN REASON FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER SUCH A REASON PROPOSAL AND THERE ARE SOME DISTRICTS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NO INTENT FOR THIS TO BE A MIXED USE BUILDING WITH RETAIL COMPONENTS BELOW IT WOULD BE EXCLUSIVELY A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING SO THERE ARE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE TOWN THAT FACILITATE DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS CONCEPT IN SIZE AND SCALE.

THERE IS A CHAPTER TO 85 THERE'S THE M DISTRICT. I HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD DO FOR A SITE LIKE THIS BUT THEN ALSO IS AS COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN MENTIONED, WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF THE TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT MAY BE THAT WHEN THAT PROCESS UNFOLDS ROUTE NINE IS STRATEGICALLY LOOKED AT AND THE END RESULT COULD BE I'M NOT SAYING WILL BE BUT IT COULD BE WITH INVOLVEMENT FROM RESIDENTS, THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY THAT WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE BRINGING TO THE TABLE IS DESIRED ALONG A LARGER SWATH OF OF NINE A FACTORING IN FLOODING CONCERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I MEAN PRIOR TO THIS WE HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM REGENERON.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORKERS THERE AND THERE'S A NEED FOR HOUSING.

SO IT MAY BE THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR NINE EIGHT COULD ACTUALLY PROPEL A POLICY TO CREATE ZONING THAT FOR FACILITATES THIS CONCEPT. RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE END STORIES WOULD BE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CONFIGURATIONS OF MIXED USE BUT SO THERE IS YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THAT TENSION OF THINKING ABOUT ENABLING A PROCESS A PROJECT LIKE THIS IN ISOLATION VERSUS WHAT A FUTURE STRATEGIC

PLANNING EFFORT WITH THE COMMUNITY WOULD REVEAL. >> SO I MEAN IF THE BOARD'S COMFORTABLE WITH THIS GENERAL CONCEPT, I REALLY DO THINK THAT WE'D HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S DONE IN A WAY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. AND OF COURSE WE LOOK AT TRAFFIC FLOODING AND ALL THOSE IMPACTS BUT YOU TREAD LIGHTLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND PERHAPS THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT MULTIFAMILY ON THAT CORRIDOR AND YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO ENABLE SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OVERWHELM THING TO THE AREA IF THAT'S NOT THE ULTIMATE VISION THAT'S SOUGHT AFTER FOR THE

CORNER. SO THERE IS THAT TENSION. >> SO I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE LIKE A GREAT ANSWER TO SAY YOU SHOULD DO X Y OR Z BUT YOU REALLY DO HAVE OPTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL KNOW INVESTMENTS NEEDED THIS SITE. I THINK THAT'S CLEAR.

YES, THAT'S DEFINITELY TRUE. I JUST HAD A CERTAIN FEELING I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE WEST HAVE PROJECT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SUCH A NEED FOR ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO WHILE YOU'RE DOING A 15% YOU KNOW THAT'S GREAT BUT THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE. SO TO ME THIS IS JUST MY MY PERSONAL OPINION IF WE WERE GOING TO DO A SPOT ZONE WE'RE NOT IN SPOTS ON A STANDALONE PROJECT A STANDALONE NEVER

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NEVER GONE TO A SPOT. OKAY A STANDALONE PROJECT I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT EXCEPTION FOR SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOING TO PROVIDE A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE AREA. TO ME YOU KNOW THIS IS NICE YOU KNOW YOU'RE MAKING SOMEWHAT OF AN INVESTMENT BUT TO ME IT'S ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THOSE OTHER CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE POINTING OUT ABOUT US NOT KNOWING HOW THE AREA IN GENERAL IS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED AND WHAT'S GOING TO WITH THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE FOR THAT. SO I DO HAVE HESITATIONS BECAUSE OF THAT. I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER DOING A HIGHER

PERCENTAGE. >> AS I SAID, THE REQUIREMENT IS 10% TO BE INQUISITIVE 15% OH I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THE BUT BEFORE I WAS 100% WELL IF YOU ADD ANOTHER EIGHT OF THE EXISTING FAMILY THAT ARE THERE THAT MIGHT INCREASE IT TO EVEN 20%.

YEAH BECAUSE WE WE WILL KEEP THOSE PEOPLE THERE. WE WE WANT TO PROVIDE THEM A PLACE TO LIVE THEIR WILL THAT BE THE FAM THE FAMILIES RIGHT THERE EIGHT OF THEM ALL RIGHT.

SURE. BUT THEN ONCE THEY MOVE ON, WHATEVER ARE THOSE APARTMENTS STILL WILL BE DESIGNATED FOR THAT LEVEL WHERE YOU SAY THAT WAS JUST REALLY FOR THEM.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BE ALONE. >> THOSE PEOPLE THOSE PEOPLE

LIVING LIVING THERE FOR SOME OF THEM ALMOST 40 YEARS, 40 YEARS. >> BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK KIND OF I GUESS I DON'T THINK WE'RE INTERESTED OF BEING LIKE A HUGE DEVELOPER THAT'S INTERESTED IN REALLY LIKE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SITE AND MAKING AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE. LIKE MY DAD SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE BUILDING FOR 40 YEARS THAT I'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE LIFE THAT HOLD A SPECIAL PLACE IN OUR HEARTS AND CANNOT NECESSARILY AFFORD, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING LIKE THE AVALON.

SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE IT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE OPEN WE'RE NOT LIKE RIGID WHERE WHERE WHERE WE HAVE WAS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE 110 HOUSES OF ALL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND WE NEED TO HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH CARE FACILITATOR OVER THERE 24 SEVEN AND POLICE ON SITE AND AND IF IT'S NOT THAT WAY IT'S NO WAY RIGHT UNDER SO I THINK WE ARE JUST A LOT MORE ON POLICE ON SITE SECURITY 100% SECURITY ON SITE SECURITY I KNOW THIS THING IS THAT THE VILLAGE BASICALLY FEELS THAT THIS IS AN EYESORE. YES.

YEAH. AND IF YOU REACHED OUT TO SAY THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW EVERYBODY SAY ON NORTH LAWN AND THERE'S NOT OPPOSITION THEN WE COULD BASICALLY YOU KNOW IF WE GET RID OF AN EYESORE BECAUSE THE BUILDING DEFINITELY IS AN EYESORE AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S ATTRACTIVE AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THERE'LL BE MORE REVENUE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT .

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HELP START TRANSFORMING THE WHOLE AREA AND YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD AND IT GOES TO THE PLANNING BOARD DURING THE HEARING PROCESS YOU KNOW, WE COULD KEEP TWEAKING IT AND THERE COULD BE SOME SOME MODIFICATIONS.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEE IF THERE'S GREEN YOU KNOW, IF IT TURNS OUT WE COULD SEE IF THERE'S GRANTS AND GET IT GET US STARTED BECAUSE ALL THESE PROCESSES TAKE YOU KNOW A LONG TIME. I WHEN YOU STARTED THIS I HAD AN AFRO AND EVERYBODY YEAH SO THE THING IS I JUST FEEL THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO REALLY YOU KNOW START THE PROCESS YOU KNOW WORK WITH THE VILLAGE WHICH WANTS US TO DO SOMETHING AND

GET RID OF THE EYESORE. >> WHICH SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL IT BE? IT YOU MENTIONED THE SCHOOL AND SORT OF YEAH, I'M SORRY IT WAS FOR THE VILLAGE OF ELM.

>> SORRY LIKE THAT. >> SO YEAH. REACH OUT TO THE OXFORD SCHOOL BOARD AND I DID PAUL I MEAN HE'S A TRIATHLETE. ONE OF THE SUPPORT THEY ARE GOING TO BOARD WE HAD A MEETING SET RIGHT THE BOARD AND HIM AND I KNOW HE'S ONE OF THE SUPPORTIVE AND HE SAW THE NUMBER AND YOU KNOW CONFIRMS THAT I HAD TO DEAL CHELMSFORD FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE OLMSTED FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GETTING TOUGHER AND TOUGHER TO ATTRACT AND KEEP YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER FIRE FIREMEN SO YOU KNOW IF YOU KNOW, WE COULD POSSIBLY WORK OUT SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE GIVING YOU KNOW EVEN IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S WORK FOR US, MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, CONCEPT AND GIVE FIRST YOU KNOW, FIRST OPPORTUNITIES TO ANYONE WHO'S A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN WHO SERVES THE EMS FOR DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY WHEN I'VE GONE TO EVENTS THEY WOULD LIKE BE SO THRILLED WITH THAT AND THEN WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY IS SERVING A NEED BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS OF ATTRACTING AND KEEPING YOU KNOW WELL, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS

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DURING THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, IF WE YOU KNOW, IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW AND AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE

REALLY UNIQUE. >> SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO. I THINK WHAT I WAS ASKING AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OFF THE RESERVATION AND THIS IS THAT SO WHEN IT'S THE TOWN PROPERTY AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS THE VILLAGE SCHOOL SYSTEM, IS THERE SOME PORTION OF THE SCHOOL TAXES THAT COME BACK TO THE TOWN OR THEY JUST YOU KNOW, JUST SPLITS LIKE ROUGHLY 50% TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? I THINK 60 TO 2025% TO THE TOWN, RIGHT.

>> I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S NOT THE VILLAGE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. RIGHT. >> GETS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS ALL THE TAXES. IT'S ALL THE PROPERTY TAXES. SO THERE'S NOT THAT'S ANY PROJECT AND THEN THE TOWN COUNTY AND I GUESS IS VOLUNTEER FIRE DISTRICT SO RIGHT NOW EXCEPT IN THE 53% TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL TO SCHOOL SO YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS IN A TOWN. YEAH YES THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS GEOGRAPHICALLY IN BOTH, RIGHT?

>> YEAH RIGHT, RIGHT. >> JUST HALF NOW I HAD A MEETING ALSO THE 80 WHO GOT VERIFY MY NUMBERS BY THE WAY DID TAX ASSESSOR ED YES YEAH AND SHE VERIFY I HAD TO SHOW HER WHAT I HAVE JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT OFF AND I WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FOR WHAT $50,000 HIGHER BUT WE WERE RIGHT ON THE MONEY AND I ASKED HER ABOUT THE SCHOOL TAX.

HE SAID YEAH WELL THIS GUY IS GOING TO LOVE IT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT THAT THE AMOUNT FOR THE 53% OF WHAT I PAY NOW. BUT TO ANSWER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT HOW MUCH TAXES THE TAXES ARE $587,000 WOULD BE GENERATED ANNUALLY AND THEN THE 53% SPLIT WOULD GIVE ABOUT 280 IS 5340 WHATEVER THE 47% THAT WOULD GO TO GREEN.

>> SO SO BUT WHEN YOU PUT DOWN WHEN YOU NOTED THAT THE TAXES AVAILABLE HERE THE 587 FIVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIMARILY AS SCHOOL TAXES 50 52% OF 52% OF THAT NUMBER.

RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S THE SO THAT THAT THAT'S JUST FOR CLASS OF THREE I, I DIDN'T BREAK IT DOWN I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL I KNOW AND I FOUND OUT THAT 53% OF WHAT WE PAY NOW GOES TO OUR SOLID SCHOOL DISTRICT BASED ON THE INVOICES THAT I GET I KNOW THAT NUMBER AND IT MAY BE THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA AND IT MAY BE A VERY GOOD IDEA FOR THE ENTIRE BLOCK ALL THE OUTREACH THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO WOULD BE THE SAME OUTREACH WE WOULD BE DOING AS PART OF OUR OUR RELOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO SEE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE HERE. I AM A BIT CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD BE CONSTRAINING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THAT THE REST OF THE BLOCK BY MOVING FORWARD NOW WITH WHAT YOUR PLAN IS AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAMSTRING OURSELVES IN THAT PLANNING AND IT MAY VERY WELL BE IT WINDS UP BEING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR BUT IT WOULD BE THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND NOT ONE PARCEL BUT BASICALLY THE ENTIRE BLOCK WITH THE PROBLEM IS IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AMENDED, YOU KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE THINKING OF STARTING THAT IN 2027 AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE LOSING IT COULD BE LOSING TWO YEARS AND IF EVERYBODY IF EVERYBODY IT COULD BE A FEW YEARS BEFORE YOU KNOW, BEFORE EVERYTHING IS DONE AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS FOR THIS IF THE VILLAGE IS FORWARD, IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS FORWARD, IF WE DO ALL THE OUTREACH AND WE COULD START THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, NOW YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL THAT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING REALLY YOU KNOW, ANY LOSSES THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD REVIEW WOULD AND YOU KNOW TO ME REALLY ESTHETICS IS REALLY LIKE A BIG ISSUE.

SO IF THE PLANNING BOARD, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THE VILLAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO IT, THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA IF THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IT AND WE'RE GET WE'RE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE FOR THE TOWN AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE FIRE AND EVERYBODY.

I THINK WE SHOULD START THE REVIEW PROCESS NOW WITHOUT MAKING A COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY OH WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO GO ALONG WITH IT, JUST REVIEW IT JUST LIKE EVERYTHING AND AS PROPERTY OWNERS I THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PROPOSE YOU KNOW ANYTHING

AND THEN CAN WE REVIEW IT? >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO PLAN

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READY. THEY JUST GAVE US A GREEN LIGHT TO BE SUBMITTED.

YOU KNOW? >> RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WE DEFINITELY NEED HOUSING. YOU KNOW THESE THINGS TAKE SUCH A LONG TIME.

WELL, THESE APPLICATIONS TO GET A PRE-CONSTRUCTION TEAM TOGETHER WOULD TAKE US A LONG TIME SO WE NEED A REZONE, RIGHT? YES.

YES. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE IT FALLS APART TO DO A RED ZONE YOU HAVE TO GET THE TOWN BOARD TO AGREE AND WE CAN'T GET SUED FOR NOT DOING IT AND WE CAN'T GET SUED FOR DOING IT. BUT TO DO A REZONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE REVIEW OF THE OF THE UPDATE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT ZONING FOR THE ENTIRE AREA MAKES IT A PROBLEM. IF THIS WAS AS A RIGHT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE AN ISSUE AND WHEN YOU CAME TO US FOR WEST HELP WE WERE ALL RAH RAH RAH. NOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT LEAST FOR ME, IS IT IN TERMS OF THE PLANS, IS THERE ANY YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE SO THERE'D BE NO REASON I'M JUST ASKING GARY WELL, THE DISTRICT IS ESSENTIALLY A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND IT DOES ALLOW LIMITED LIKE MULTIFAMILY BUT ON THE ORDER OF 1 OR 2 UNITS.

SO AS OF RIGHT THE CB DISTRICT OF WHICH THIS PROPERTY AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES ON THE BLOCK IS NOT THE RIGHT ZONED FOR THIS CONCEPT. SO WHY WOULD THE WEST HERE BE YOU KNOW NO ZONING SO THE WEST HAVE THE PROCESS WOULD STILL ABSOLUTELY ENTAIL A REZONING.

I THINK SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE INDICATING THAT THE PROSPECT OF A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING REALLY RESONATED WITH THEM AS IS A PUBLIC GOOD THAT IT BALANCED OUT MORE SO SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE PLANNING OF THE BLOCK SO COULD EVEN NARROW NOW AND WHAT IF IF YOU KNOW THE BOARD BASICALLY WOULD WANT LIKE 100% FOR YOU KNOW LET'S SAY AFFORDABLE OR WHATEVER WHAT IF YOU KNOW WE REACH OUT TO YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE AGENCIES IN ALBANY THAT DEAL WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE BASICALLY SEE IF YOU KNOW IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE COUNTY AND STATE MAY BE REALLY THRILLED IF THE TOWN IS DOING

65 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING . >> I MEAN IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE OPEN TO ALL OF IF YOU DID IT? PART OF THE INVESTIGATION WITH THE WEST HAVE WAS THE IT'S NOT NOT ONLY THE STATE AND COUNTY ARE INVOLVED THAT THEY HAVE TO DONATE MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THERE THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY THAT COMES IS ATTACHMENT TO IT AND THAT ATTACHMENT IS THERE'S A HALFWAY HOUSE RIGHT. SO I JUST ALSO WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE WAY THAT WEST HAM WAS MARKETING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT'S NOT JUST ANY PERSON IN AN AM I BRACKET THAT FALLS IN LINE .

IT GOES THROUGH HALFWAY HOUSES AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND THEY CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE IN THE STATE AND THEY'RE GRANTED THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN THAT APARTMENT SPECIFIC RIGHT.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARY. NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND AND JUST JUST REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT THE THE 100 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH WEST HAVE YOU CANNOT GET FINANCING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN UNLESS YOU HAVE OVER 110 113 UNITS AND THEN YOU WOULD GET THE MAXIMUM FINANCING AND THAT'S WHY THEY STRUCTURE IT AS A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING MODEL

BECAUSE THEY GET THE MAXIMUM 100% CONSTRUCTION. >> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT I'M THINKING IS CABS YEAH MODEL RIGHT. SO IF YOU WERE TO DO A DIFFERENT MODEL YEAH THAT WAS A DIFFERENT MODEL IT WOULD HAVE TO BE 100 UNITS HAS TO BE A

UNIFORM DID TO GET FUNDING FROM THE STATE. >> YEAH BUT YOU KNOW BUT I'M JUST OKAY I'M JUST SORRY I'M JUST SORT OF THINKING YOU KNOW YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW BALTAR YOU KNOW THEY DID THE DRONE WAR, YOU KNOW, HOUSING WE'VE HAD AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S BEEN

LESS THAN YOU KNOW, 100 UNITS. >> SO WHAT IF YOU KNOW, I REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE OR YOU KNOW GARRETT YOU KNOW, BE WE COULD BOTH REACH OUT TO PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE COULD SAY TOWN BOARD MIGHT BE MORE RECEPTIVE IF WE CAN MAKE THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD SET UP A MEETING WHERE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE OPEN TO BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD I THINK THERE'S YOU KNOW ,THERE'S SUCH A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS SOMEBODY WILLING TO GO 65. IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING AND YOU KNOW, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE TRY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> KNOW AS I SAID, I WAS LOOKING AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVEN BEFORE THIS HAPPENED. THESE GENTLEMEN FROM THE COUNTY I WENT TO A WHITE PLANE I

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FORGOT HIS NAME. HE'S IN CHARGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HE INTRODUCED ME TO SOMEBODY WHO DOES FINANCING OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT'S SPENT ALMOST A YEAR GETTING MONEY IS A TOUGH, TOUGH SITUATION. IT TAKES SOME TIME FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS PLUS IF THEY DON'T DO ATTACHMENT LIKE WHAT THIS FIND OUT FROM WEST TO HAVE A BIG ATTACHMENT WHEN YOU WHEN IT COMES TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING MONEY OR GIVING YOUR MONEY FOR THAT HOUSING AND I THINK YOU HAD A PLANNING QUESTION LATE I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY YOU KNOW BEFORE WHEN YOU WERE HERE AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS WEST OUT WEST HAVE RAH RAH RAH, I WOULDN'T TAKE THAT POSITION TODAY.

YOU KNOW, IF IT HAPPENED BACK THEN THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A REZONE WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ZONING MORE COMPREHENSIVELY .

SO RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SO SURE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA EITHER BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES AT ALL BY THE TIME WE GET IT DONE IT COULD BE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW. SO I THINK I FEEL THAT WE IF WE I'D RATHER GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING DONE YEAH. QUICKER AND I'D RATHER ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE HALL YOU KNOW WHAT GARRETT HAS A ONE QUICK IDEA AND THEN WE HAVE TO WRAP THIS UP BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY LATE SORT OF A HYBRID TO REALLY PERHAPS GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY DO A REAL DEAL MAILING INVITE VILLAGE OFFICIALS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY LEADERS, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS IN THE AREA, BUSINESS OWNERS INTO IT AND TRY AND DO AN OPEN HOUSE PERHAPS SOMEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ANSWERED AND GO OUT DO AN OPEN HOUSE, HAVE THIS RENDERING AS A STARTING TALKING POINT AND REALLY JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS THIS SITE DOES THE PROJECT THE BLOCK IN LARGE AND REALLY JUST TALK TO RESIDENTS OUT THERE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> HOW DO WE DO THAT? THAT'S OKAY. HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. OKAY. NOT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

REALLY? YES, I THINK THAT YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE

TALKING ABOUT HOMEOWNERSHIP. >> YOU KNOW HOMEOWNERSHIP WON'T WORK IF WE DO AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THEN THE GOVERNMENT NOT IT'S NICE TO CONTINUE THIS ONGOING.

OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND WHEN WE GET THE WATER WE ALWAYS DID THE WATER ON WHEN WE DID THE WATER WILL WHEN WE DID THE WATER WHEEL AND WE SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE THE YARDS LIKE FIREFIGHTERS IT DID WORK. YEAH I KNOW BUT WHAT WE NEED TO GO WE HAVE YEAH RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT WHAT'S THE NEXT TOPIC YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT WHAT WE ALL RIGHT SO WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM WITH THE WATERWHEEL I WORKED ON A CONTRACT TO REALLY MAKE SURE EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS LAWSUITS AGAINST EVERYBODY BY THE TOWN REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE WATER.

WELL, AND IT TURNS OUT THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY WORKED OUT THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED BECAUSE MANY OF THEM DID NOT FIT INTO THE INCOME BRACKET. THEY MADE TOO MUCH.

SO YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY IT'S FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS BUT THEY MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. BUT WE COULD ALSO CREATE OUR OWN LAWS WHERE BASICALLY WE'RE NOT USING THE THE YOU KNOW, THE GUIDELINES SAVE THE COUNTY AND WE COULD SAY WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT SAY 15% TO WORKFORCE HOUSING AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH OUR OWN LAW WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR VOLUNTEER

FIRE DEPARTMENTS. >> RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST WHAT IS THIS MODEL? WHAT IS THIS? THIS? I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH US THIS YEAR.

I JUST WE PASSED THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW AS A HAVING BEEN INSPIRED BY THE THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE AT OUR MEETING WEDNESDAY ASKING US TO REDUCE SOME OF THE TENSIONS I INVOLVED . I VOLUNTARILY TOOK OFF EVERY OPINION THAT I POSTED ON YOU KNOW, ON THE TOWN WEBSITE BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THE TOWN WEBSITE IS DAMAGING TO THE TOWN WITH ALL THE BICKERING AND NEGATIVITY AND I DECIDED I WOULD TAKE THE LEAD AND TAKE THE FIRST ACTION STEPS, YOU KNOW AND YOU KNOW AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS I GO AROUND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE VERY, VERY UPSET WITH THE FACT THAT THE WEBSITE THAT WE HAVE IS IS IS REALLY DAMAGING THE TOWN. PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME THAT IT'S

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HARDER TO SELL HOMES BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT A HOME IN GREENSBURG AND COMPARING IT TO A HOME ELSEWHERE AND THEY LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE AND THE WEBSITE ELSEWHERE WELL THIS THING IS A LOT OF NEGATIVITY. I ASK YOU A QUESTION PLEASE. WELL, I JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION.

>> OKAY. SURE. SO MY QUESTION IS IT SAYS DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF A MODERATOR FOR SOCIAL MEDIA SO WAS CAN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION REGARDING THE MODERATOR WELL I DON'T KNOW WHO PUT THIS.

I DON'T I, I WANTED THAT DISCUSSION WE PASSED WE PASSED THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY LAST WEDNESDAY AND IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY IT SAYS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MODERATOR WHO DETERMINES WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND NOT APPROPRIATE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION.

AND YOU KNOW, I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR A TYPE OF I'VE ALSO I'VE ALSO ASKED IF IT'S A LEGAL

BACKGROUND. >> YES. SO IF WE COULD HAVE AN OPINION PAGE OPINION LINK SO YOUR HOME THE HOME PRICES HAVE TO DO THE MODERATOR WE NEED TO HAVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. SO WHO'S SORT OF MODERATOR DO WE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS BASED ON THAT? BASED ON WHAT WE JUST PASSED LAST WEEK ON WHO WE WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT FOR THE MODERATOR I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY

TO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT ROLE IS. >> YEAH.

SO THEN TO DO THIS WE CAN WE CAN HOLD IT. >> OKAY.

OKAY. PAUL YOU WANT TO CAN I JUST QUICKLY READ IT AND THEN YOU COULD CONSIDER IT AND I'LL SEND IT TO YOU AS WELL. MODERATOR IS DEFINED AS THE AUTHORIZED TOWN OF GREENBURG EMPLOYEE WHO REVIEWS AUTHORIZES AND ALLOWS CONTENT SUBMITTED BY TOWN OFFICIALS, EMPLOYEES AND PUBLIC COMMENTATORS IS TO BE POSTED TO A TOWN OF GREENBURG SOCIAL MEDIA SITE OR RELATED SITES. SO WHOEVER THAT IS HAS TO TAKE FIRST AMENDMENT FREE SPEECH VERY SERIOUSLY AND HAS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT CRITIQUING OF THE TOWN IN GENERAL OR CERTAIN OFFICIALS OR CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OR ANYBODY IS BY RIGHT A FIRST AMENDMENT FREE SPEECH ISSUE AND THAT THEY CAN'T BE REMOVED FOR THOSE PURPOSES.

IT HAS TO BE HATE SPEECH, HAS TO BE INCITING RIOTS OR HARM. THERE ARE CLEARLY DEFINED AREAS AND OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY WHILE IT'S WORDY I WILL ADMIT AND WHILE IT'S THREE DOCUMENTS THAT REALLY HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO ONE IT DOES DEFINE A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE NOT

APPROPRIATE FOR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. >> RIGHT? SO BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICIES AND MODERATORS. SO HOW DO THEY I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THEY BECAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW WE DO THIS HONESTLY. I THINK WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WOULD GO UP AND WHAT WHAT SHOULD GO UP, WHAT SHOULDN'T GO UP.

DO YOU NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR CLEARLY DEFINED CRITERIA LIST THAT IS STRICTLY FOLLOWED AND IF SOMEONE SUBMITS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT FITTING THAT MOLD I THINK THEY COULD REWORK IT TO MAKE IT FIT THE MOLD. I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING A POLICY DECISION FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO MAKE IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC WEIGHING IN. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING REALLY OUT THERE. I MEAN THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND KNOW IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR SOCIAL MEDIA. IT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY HIGH STREET AND AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE REALLY TO DECIDE ON WHOM WHO A MODERATOR IS AND TO WE DEVELOPED THAT CRITERIA. RIGHT. I JUST POINT OUT I JUST REVIEW TWO SOCIAL MEDIA SITES AS A TOWN I HAVE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING AT LEAST THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT I WOULD SAY A PUBLIC PERSON HAS POSTED THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN DOWN IF I EVER SAW IT I'D REACH OUT TO THE BOARD RIGHT AWAY SO THAT THAT IS A VERY HIGH STANDARD.

I DON'T WANT THE AUDIENCE TO HEAR WHOEVER THE MODERATOR MAY BE OH THEY'RE GOING TO MODERATE

MY FREE SPEECH THAT I CAN'T BE DONE RIGHT. >> WE WOULD HAVE A LAWSUIT ON OUR HANDS AND IT WOULD BE A BIG WELL I THOUGHT WE'D BE MODERATING OUR IT'S BOTH OKAY

RIGHT? >> IT'S EVERYTHING. IT'S EVERYTHING.

RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE MORE CONTROL ABOUT WHAT WE PUT OUT THAN WHAT POST.

>> OKAY. BUT YOU KNOW EVERY TIME I LOOK AT THE TOWN WEBSITE IN RECENT MONTHS I BASICALLY I'M SO EMBARRASSED AND I FEEL THAT IT'S SUCH A DISASTER BECAUSE BASICALLY WELL IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOME PAGE THE NEWS REPORTS THERE'S SO MUCH NEGATIVITY, THERE'S SO MUCH IT'S SO DAMAGING TO THE TOWN BECAUSE OF PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW IT'S TOO POLITICAL AND BASICALLY IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT BUYING HOMES THEY'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY NOT AND THEY AND THEY'RE NOT SURE WHICH COMMUNITY THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO. THEY'RE GOING TO BASICALLY WALK AWAY FROM GREENBERG I FEEL THE WEBSITE SHOULD HAVE AN INFORMATION ABOUT THE TOWN, THE PROGRAMS, THE SERVICES, YOU

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KNOW, ISSUES FOR EXAMPLE LIKE WE JUST HAD TODAY SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE POSTED.

>> I THINK IT'S PART OF THE CRITERIA. I THINK THAT YOU AND JOE PROBABLY HAVE IT. NO, I'M I'M AGREEING WITH YOU BUT I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.

I MEAN I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT YOU AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH. WHY DON'T WE ALL AGREE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT NEXT WEEK, WILL YOU? WELL, LOOK, I'M JUST SAYING.

PAUL YEAH, I KNOW. >> WHY DON'T WE ALL AGREE THAT WE'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE AN OPINION SECTION ON A LINK TO AN OPINION OPINION AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO AND I FEEL THAT IF WE REMOVE YOU ALL THE POLITICAL STUFF AND THE OPINIONS AND PUT IT ON A LINK TO AN OPINION PAGE THEN THE WEBSITE IS NOT GOING TO BE BUT WHO DETERMINES THAT IT'S AN

OPINION. >> SO UNLESS WE HAVE CRITERIA AND A MODERATOR WE CAN'T DETERMINE WHAT IS OPINION AND WHAT IS NOT AND AND THEN WHAT IS POLITICAL BECAUSE YOU KEEP SAYING IT'S POLITICAL AND I THINK IT'S USED DETERMINE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE

HERE. >> COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS OKAY THAT'S FINE.

SO I BASICALLY TO MOTION ACROSS THE BOARD EVERYTHING FROM MY POST THAT I HAD AND OKAY MOTION TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ROUND OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL SERVICE SO THESE ARE BY SOME SO I HAVE MY GLASSES ON ON VARIOUS MATTERS ON VARIOUS MATTERS. SO ALL IN FAV

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