[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, May 20, 2026 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ]
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WELCOME TO THE WEDNESDAY MAY 20, UH, 2026 PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
UM, I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
UH, IT IS, UH, IT IS 7:06 PM UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.
UH, MAY YOU CONDUCT THE ROLE CHAIRPERSON PINE HERE, MR. PILLINGER? HERE.
MS. ROBINSON HERE, OUR ALTERNATE AND MR. PATEL, OUR ALTERNATE HERE.
BOTH WILL BE FULL VOTING MEMBERS IN PLACE OF MR. WEINBERG WHO'S NOT PRESENT.
AND MS. ANDERSON, WHO IS ALSO NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
UM, STAFF DISTRIBUTED, UH, A DRAFT OF THE MAY 6TH, 2026 MINUTES.
DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? YES.
WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? I HAVE A QUESTION.
ON PV 1506, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD, UM, I REQUESTED, I WAS GONNA USE THE WORD REQUESTED THAT THEY IN ORDER, IN EXCHANGE FOR OUR EXTENDING TO THE TWO YEARS THAT THEY AGREED, OH, I'M SORRY.
UH, TO MAINTAIN, UH, THE PROPERTY AND IMPROVE MAINTENANCE.
AND IT'S, IT SAID WE COULD REQUEST AND I THOUGHT WE DID REQUEST, WE DID.
AM I RIGHT ON THE, UH, ON PAGE TWO? MM-HMM
YOU SEE IT SAYS AND NOTED THAT THE PLANNING BOARD COULD REQUEST IMPROVED MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND I SAY TO MY RECOLLECTION, WE DID REQUEST CORRECT.
SO I DID MAKE THAT STATEMENT THAT YOU COULD REQUEST.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY, IF YOU LOOK, UH, DOWN AT THE LAST PARAGRAPH WHERE THE VOTE WAS TAKEN MM-HMM
THE BOARD, UH, ISSUED THE TWO YEAR EXTENSION APPROVALS SUBJECT TO QUARTERLY UPDATES TO STAFF REGARDING MARKETING EFFORTS FOR BOTH ASSISTED LIVING AND SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, YEAH, WELL, CONTINUED MAINTENANCE DOESN'T MEAN HOW ABOUT CONTINUED IMPROVED MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY 'CAUSE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD LEFT MUCH TO BE DESIRED.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS CHECK THE TAPE TO SEE IF THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OKAY.
AND IF SO, WE'LL ADD IT AND AMEND THE MINUTES ACCORDINGLY.
AND I DO KNOW EITHER WAY, UM, THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN, UH, IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, ALRIGHT THEN I WILL, UH, I GUESS I WANNA DO A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OR JUST APPROVE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IF NECESSARY REVISING BASED ON THE TAPE.
SO THEN, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE MAY 6TH MINUTES, UH, PENDING REVIEWING THE TAPE OF THE LAST MEETING TO CONFIRM THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THE MOTION ON THAT EXTENSION.
UH, WE HAVE ONE PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE THIS EVENING, UH, RELATED TO CASE NUMBER PB 26 0 6 KING AT 96 WINDHAM STREET IN PO.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A MINOR PROJECT, WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT, UM, I GUESS, UH, TOWN PLANNER, UH, BRITAIN.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH, UH, THE PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MINOR WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT A DECK ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UH, ON THEIR PROPERTY IS A SMALL STREAM THAT RUNS THROUGH ONE SIDE.
THERE'S ABOUT 32 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE PROPOSED DECK AND THE CREEK.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING SOAP FENCING TO BE PLACED BETWEEN THE, UH, AREA OF THE DECK AND THE STREAM DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
THE EXTENT OF THE DISTURBANCE WITHIN THE WETLAND WATERCOURSE BUFFER AREA IS LIMITED TO THE SIX SONOTUBES THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE DECK SUPPORTS.
THE APPLICANT WENT TO THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL LAST WEEK AND RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, UH, REQUESTING THAT THE DECK BELA SO THAT WATER CAN FLOW THROUGH AND THAT UNDER THE DECK BE A PERMEABLE SURFACE SO THAT WATER CAN PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND UNDERNEATH THE DECK.
THE APPLICANT AGREED TO BOTH OF THOSE, UH,
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SUGGESTIONS AND, UH, THEY'RE HERE BEFORE THE BOARD NOW.UH, AND THERE ARE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, AND IF THERE ARE NONE, I REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING BOARD TURN THE PROJECT OVER TO ME TO, AS A TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR, TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE PROJECT AND TO CLASSIFY THE PROPOSED ACTION AS A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER SEEKER.
UH, TOM PLANNER BRITTON, UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UH, NO.
I THINK MATT COVERED EVERYTHING.
THERE IS A PROVISION I SHOULD POINT OUT, UH, SECTION TWO 80 DASH EIGHT B ONE OF THE TOWN CODE, WHICH ALLOWS THE PLANNING BOARD TO WAVE REFERRAL AND PERMIT THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR TO ISSUE A DECISION ON A MINOR PROJECT WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT.
ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
UM, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLASSIFY, UH, THE ACTION AS A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER CCRA.
UM, AND THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE REFERRAL ON THIS APPLICATION, UH, AND PERMIT THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR, UH, TO ISSUE A DECISION ON THIS APPLICATION.
SECOND, MR. PATEL? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WE HAVE ONE PIECE OF OLD BUSINESS FOR OUR WORK SESSION THIS EVENING.
UH, CASE NUMBER PB 25 13 CONE AT ZERO PETER BOTT ROAD, PO IRVINGTON.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, A WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT, AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UM, SO A DRAFT DECISION HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE BOARD.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE DECISION AND, UH, HIGHLIGHT ANY SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE APPLICATION? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
SO, UH, FOLLOWING CLOSURE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE LAST MEETING, WE DID GET ONE EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT, UM, INDICATING THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED.
THEY THOUGHT PERHAPS SOMEONE ON THE BOARD, UM, WAS OPEN TO GUIDING A WALK OF THE NEIGHBORS ON THE PROPERTY.
I HAD INDICATED THAT I LIVE IN THE AREA AND AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AND THAT I CAN MEET TO DISCUSS THE SITE, BUT NOT CARRY OUT LIKE A FULL WALKTHROUGH OF THE PROPERTY.
SO I, I RESPONDED TO THAT EFFECT AND DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THAT RESIDENT.
UM, NEVERTHELESS, EVEN IF THIS PROJECT IS DECIDED UPON THIS EVENING, I'M STILL HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROJECT ITSELF.
WITH RESPECT TO THE DRAFT DECISION, THERE ARE A FEW VOTES FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING.
FIRST OFF THAT THE PROJECT QUALIFIES AS A TYPE TWO ACTION, UH, AS WELL AS TO CONSIDER A DECISION ON THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION, FOLLOWED BY THE WETLAND WATER FORCE PERMIT APPLICATION.
AND FINALLY, THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD STAFF PREPARED THE DRAFT DECISION WHICH WAS CIRCULATED IN THE PACKAGES.
I CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION ON PAGE NINE, THE SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION FOUR, I'LL JUST RECITE THEM.
4.1 INDICATES THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL ADHERE TO ALL APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION WITH RESPECT TO WORK WITHIN THE BUFFER OF A FRESHWATER WETLAND.
AND THEN 4.2, WHICH INDICATES AS DISCUSSED, UH, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL INSTALL WIRE BACKED SILT FENCING AND STRAW BALES AT THE DIRECTION OF THE TOWN ENGINEER WHO ISSUES THE STONEWATER MANAGEMENT CONTROL PERMIT TO FURTHER PROTECT ADJACENT AND DOWNLOW PROPERTIES DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.
UH, THE LAST CONDITION I WANTED TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION ALSO DISCUSSED, UH, BY THIS BOARD IS ON PAGE 12, SECTION NINE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
9.3 INDICATES THAT THE TOWN ENGINEER SHALL CONFIRM THAT THE APPLICANT'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO HANDLE A 100 YEAR STORM EVENT AS REPRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS ARE PRETTY BOILERPLATE FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT OF THIS TYPE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT DECISION FROM THE BOARD? NO.
UH, THEN WE HAVE, UH, FOUR, UH, VOTES TO TAKE THIS EVENING RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION.
UH, THE FIRST I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLASSIFY THE ACTION AS A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER CCRA.
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MOVE MR. PILLINGER.UH, NEXT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT DECISION FOR THE PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION AS DISTRIBUTED.
UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT DECISION FOR THE WETLAND WATER COACH PERMIT APPLICATION AS DISTRIBUTED.
AND LASTLY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT DECISION FOR THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION, UH, AS DISTRIBUTED.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE HOUSE IN, IN ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST ONCE IT'S, UH, YES.
I WISH ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I WOULD MAYBE ONLINE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PICTURES OF THE LANDSCAPING WHEN IT'S ALL FRESH.
I'LL, I'LL GET AN ETHICS OPINION OF WHETHER I CAN TAKE YOU UP ON THAT AS LONG AS, UH, UM, CAN'T.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE MOVING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING.
UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 20TH, 2026 AND IT IS 7:17 PM UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, MAY YOU CONDUCT THE ROLE CHAIRPERSON PINE HERE.
MR. PILLINGER HERE, OUR ALTERNATE MS. ROBINSON HERE AND OUR SECOND ALTERNATE, MR. PATEL HERE.
BOTH WILL BE VOTING MEMBERS THIS EVENING IN PLACE OF MR. WEINBERG AND MS. ANDERSON WHO ARE NOW PRESENT.
UM, THE, THE FIRST AND ONLY PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS CASE NUMBER PB 26 0 3 MATANZA CUBAN CAFE AT 17 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE IN PO.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT AND A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION.
UM, AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN DULY NOTICED IN THE TOWN'S, UH, NEWSPAPER OF RECORD.
UM, MAY THE APPLICANT APPROACH THE PODIUM AND COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, YOU KNOW, BRIEFLY PRESENT, UH, YOUR, YOUR PROPOSAL? SURE.
I'M THE OWNER OF MATANZA CUING CAFE.
UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO EXTEND OUR SEATING INTO OUR VACANT SPACE NEXT DOOR.
WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND SEATING FROM FIVE THAT WE HAVE NOW INTO A TOTAL OF 28, UH, SEATS NEXT DOOR.
WE'RE JUST, UH, GONNA BE SHARING THE PLANS SO THAT THEY CAN BE WALKED THROUGH.
HI, HOW YOU DOING? I'M MEMBERS OF DEBO.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, COULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR AFFILIATION WITH THE APPLICANT FOR THE RECORD? OKAY.
I'M THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE SITE.
UM, WHY, WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW AND THE, UH, PLANS IS, UH, THE, UH, UH, RESTAURANT AND ALSO THE EMPTY SPACE THAT USED TO BE THE TAILOR SHOP.
UH, THE OTHER ONE RIGHT THERE IS THE SPRINKLE SYSTEM AND THE BATHROOM WE'RE GONNA USE THAT IS GONNA BE TURNED TO A HANDICAP, UH, PATTERN.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THE BAR? UH, A COUPLE THINGS, IF I MAY.
SO, UM, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF SEATS.
CAN YOU MENTION THE NUMBER OF TABLES? MM-HMM
AND THE INTERCONNECTION BETWEEN THE SPACES? 'CAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S A WALL SEPARATING YES.
THE FORMER USE FROM THE MM-HMM
RIGHT NOW, THE RESTAURANT OR THE CAFE? IT, IT COMES WITH, UH, FIVE STOOL.
AND FOR THE CUSTOMERS, UH, UM, WHERE IS NEXT TO THE TAILOR SHOP? IT'S GONNA BE, UH, THE TABLES PLUS THE CHAIRS ONLY.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE SEVEN TABLES, 28 SHARES, AND ALSO IT'S GONNA BE A HANDICAP UH, BATTERY IN THE BACK.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT, THERE'S, AND I MENTIONED THIS AT THE WORK SESSION, THE SITE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE OR CONTAIN ANY OFF STREET PARKING.
WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE CODE.
UM, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED AND IS REQUESTING A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION FROM THIS BOARD.
UM, THE TOTAL OF 33 SEATS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTAURANT WOULD REQUIRE 13 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU'VE STUDIED THE SURROUNDING
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AREA.AND ANY AVAILABLE PUBLIC PARKING, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT? YES.
UH, AND THE STREET PARKING, WE HAVE 52 SPACES AND THEN ADDITIONAL ACROSS THE STREET, WE HAVE 95 SPACES.
UM, THAT'S, UH, JOINT TO BE PAID PARKING FOR THE CUSTOMERS.
UM, IS THAT THE, UH, HARTSDALE PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT? YES.
UH, ALSO WE HAVE COMMON, CAN WE ALSO HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT? UH, CAN YOU READ 'EM FOR ME? THANK YOU.
IT SAYS, ADEQUATE PARKING IS AVAILABLE TO RESTAURANT PATRONS THROUGH THE NEARBY MUNICIPAL PARKING LOT, WHICH PROVIDES 95 OFF STREET SPACES AS WELL AS 52 ON STREET PARKING SPACES ALONG THE CORRIDOR TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED EXPANSION.
BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THESE PARKING RESOURCES, UH, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED SHARED PARKING REDUCTION.
AND COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION FOR THE RECORD? LISA ZAMUDIO.
SO, SO BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT, UM, UM, WE TRYING TO, UH, GET THROUGH BECAUSE AS, AS SHE'S BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR THREE YEARS, THE, UH, NEIGHBORS ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH THE RESTAURANT OR WITH THE CAFE THAT SHE HAS.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES SHE HAS PROBLEMS WITH, WITH THE SEATING.
SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF TAKEOUT, BUT SOMETIMES CUSTOMERS, THE WANTS TO WALK IN WITH THE FAMILIES AND, AND USE THAT, THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S WHY SHE'S TRYING TO EXPAND AND ONE OF THE CUSTOMERS, UH, AND MY FAMILY.
AND, UH, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT SPACE SOMETIMES JUST TO WALK AND SIT DOWN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO WALK RIGHT THERE TO
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, TO SPEAK FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I, ALRIGHT.
IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM HERE TO SPEAK, UH, DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? DOESN'T APPEAR SO.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE SEATING.
THERE'S NO GONNA BE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY BAR OR ANY WHAT BAR? BAR OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
JUST PURELY SEATING? NO, JUST PURELY SEATING.
YEAH, JUST, WE JUST NEED THE TABLES AND THE CHAIRS LIKE THAT THE CUSTOMERS CAN SIT DOWN AND HAVE A MEAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IS, IS THERE A WAITING AREA IF YOU ARE FULL? I MEAN, WE ARE GONNA BE USING THE, THE, THE SPACE OF THE TAILOR SPACE SO WE CAN HAVE IN THERE AN EXTRA TABLE RIGHT THERE WHEN PEOPLE COME IN.
ALSO BY THE WINDOW WE CAN HAVE A ROLL THE CHAIRS TO, WE CAN HAVE WAITING AREA FOR THE PEOPLE IN CASE HE'S IN ANY WAITING AREA.
IS IS THERE A HOSTESS STAND IN THE PLANS? NO.
I MEAN, BUT IF YOU NEED TO AND HOPEFULLY SHE WILL BE THAT SUCCESSFUL TOO.
WE CAN PUT SOMETHING, BUT SO FAR IT JUST FOR THE CUSTOMER JUST TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A MEAL IN THE RESTAURANT.
DO YOU, UH, DO YOU PLAN ON TAKING RESERVATIONS OR JUST WALK-INS? UM, IT'S STILL MOSTLY A TAKEOUT.
I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, GRANDMA AND GRANDPAS TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN.
THEY CAN'T SIT DOWN IN OUR BAR STOOLS RIGHT NOW.
FEEL KIND THE SAME FEEL JUST MOST KIDS.
WILL, THERE'LL BE TABLE SERVICE OR WOULD IT JUST BE TAKEOUT AND THEN YOU WOULD SIT? WELL, I'M ALWAYS THERE.
I, I ALWAYS, I DO COUNTER SERVICE MYSELF, SO I WOULD BE SERVING IF I NEED TO, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S MORE OF A TAKEOUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
ALRIGHT THEN, UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE WRITTEN RECORD OPEN THROUGH MAY 27TH, WHICH IS A, UH, WEEK FROM TODAY, NEXT WEDNESDAY.
SO JUST PROCEDURALLY, THIS PROJECT WILL BE BACK, NOW THAT THE BOARD HAS CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL SEE IF ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS COME IN OVER THE NEXT WEEK.
STAFF WILL PREPARE A DECISION FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AT ITS NEXT MEETING.
THAT'S JUST PROCEDURALLY HOW IT GOES, BUT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE.
AND, UH, SEEING NO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION OF, UH, MOVE MR. PATEL.
THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION IS CLOSED.
SORRY, I DIDN'T LET YOU FINISH.
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TYPICALLY.UH, WE ARE BACK INTO OUR WORK SESSION.
WE HAVE THREE PIECES OF NEW BUSINESS THIS EVENING.
UH, FIRST IS CASE NUMBER PB 25 33 AO AT 18 OLD FARM LANE IN PO HARTSDALE.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A WEST, UH, A WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT.
UH, AND HERE, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, WE HAVE IT'S GREG KOLI.
GREG, UH, MR. KOLI? UH, GOOD EVENING.
UH, SORRY I COULDN'T BE THERE TONIGHT.
I AM THE, UH, ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT HERE AT 18 OLD FARM LANE, UH, BEFORE YOU IS, IT'S PRETTY MUCH A PROPOSAL THAT IS THAT, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO INSTALL A POOL WITH A POOL PATIO IN THE REAR YARD.
SORRY, GREG, COULD YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT PLEASE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR, UH, COMPUTER'S LIKE AN ULTRA BIAS SCREEN, BUT IT IS SOMETHING, IT IS STRANGE WITH THE, UH, THE ZOOM.
YEAH, IT IS, IT'S AN ULTRA WIDE SCREEN.
IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN EXPAND IT DOWN? IT, IT, IT'S LIKE HALF CUT OFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, NO, TRY NOT TO WORRY IF YOU CAN'T.
WE DO HAVE THE PLANS I CAN SHARE.
IS THIS, IS THIS ANY BETTER OR NO? UH, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME, BUT IT IS ZOOMED IN.
UM, WELL, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A, A RECTANGULAR POOL.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, UH, FIVE FOOT WIDE PATIO THAT GOES AROUND, UH, THE PERIMETER OF THE POOL.
UH, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF POOL AND POOL PATIO.
IT IS ENTIRELY LOCATED WITHIN THE BUFFER.
ACTUALLY, THE WHOLE REAR YARD IS LOCATED WITHIN, UH, THE BUFFER.
UM, AND AS OUR FORM OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, WE'RE PROPOSING A LINEAR DRAIN THAT GOES AROUND THE POOL, UH, ALONG WITH A, A BIO RETENTION BASIN, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE A RAIN GARDEN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RAIN GARDEN WILL CAPTURE ANY STORM WATER RUNOFF INFILTRATED INTO THE GROUND.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PURPOSE OF, OF THE INFILTRATION SYSTEM.
UH, AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECT IS.
UH, THERE ARE NO TREE REMOVALS, UH, PROPOSED.
UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID, WE DO HAVE A PLANTING PLAN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY BEST IN BACKYARDS, UH, THAT USES NEW YORK STATE DEC RECOMMENDED PLANTINGS FOR, FOR THE, UH, BIO RETENTION, UH, POND AND, UH, I'M SORRY, BASIN.
AND, UM, UH, THAT, THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP THE PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, JUST TO CONFIRM, THERE IS NO VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT? NO.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO, TO ADD? UH, JUST A QUESTION.
I'M, I'M SURE I'M PROBABLY JUMPING IN FRONT OF OUR MEMBERS AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT, UM, YOU MENTIONED THE BIO RETENTION BASIN SLASH RAIN GARDEN FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
WHAT HAS THAT BEEN DESIGNED IN TERMS OF, UM, STORM EVENT? RIGHT.
UH, SO WE DID DESIGN FOR A 25 YEAR STORM.
WHICH IS SIX, SIX AND A HALF INCH, A LITTLE OVER SIX AND A HALF INCHES OF RAINFALL IN 24 HOURS.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED FOR.
IT'S PRETTY SIZE, IT'S PRETTY SIZABLE AT LIKE 34 FEET LONG BY, UH, SIX FEET WIDE.
WOULD, WOULD THERE BE ANY ROOM, WOULD, WOULD THERE BE ANY POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING THAT TO, UM, MAYBE A 50 OR A HUNDRED YEAR STORM? YEAH, I THINK IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, UH, WE HAD SPACE FOR IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, YES.
AND, AND WHAT IS THE, THE NATURE OF THE, THE STORM WATER? IS IT COLEX OR? NO, IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S
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A RAIN GARDEN.SO, UH, BASICALLY THERE'S SOIL, THERE'S LIKE A SOIL MEDIA LAYER, THERE'S SAND, THERE'S TOP SOIL, THERE'S LEAF COMPOST, AND, UH, THIS IS ALL LAYERED.
AND THEN THERE'S PLANTS ON TOP.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE PLANTS HELP ABSORB WATER, SOME INFILTRATES INTO THE GROUND.
THE MEDIA IS MEANT TO PASS WATER THROUGH IT.
AND, UH, IT ACTS LIKE, LIKE A, A LIKE A
IS IS THERE A MAINTENANCE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAIN GARDEN? YES, SHE DID PROVIDE A, UH, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES MANUAL, WHICH IS ALSO TAKEN STRAIGHT OUT OF DEC UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, UM, YES, WE, WE DID PROVIDE THAT AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, IS THERE AN INTENTION TO PUT A FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE POOL? YEAH, WE, WE DO ACTUALLY SHOW A FENCE, UH, AROUND THE PERIMETER, DIRECTLY AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PATIO.
UH, SO YES, THERE IS AND IT'S REQUIRED BY CODE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T SEE THE FENCE ON THE PLANTS.
BUT I MIGHT HAVE MISSED ARE, ARE, ARE YOU ABLE TO ZOOM IN JUST A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE THE, THE FENCE? YEAH, SURE.
AND THEN THERE'S A, AN AUTOMATIC LOCKING GATE WHERE YEAH, THAT'LL BE AT THE ENTRANCE ON THIS SIDE HERE.
CAN YOU JUST ZOOM IN A LITTLE? SURE.
THIS LINE WOULD'VE WOULD HAVE SEMI GATE, LEMME SEE IF I, IS IT, IS IT CALLED OUT AS IN AUTOMATIC LOCKING GATE, YOU KNOW, IN THE NOTES OR ANYTHING? SO IT SAYS, PROPOSE ALUMINUM FENCE AND GATE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH NEW YORK STATE BUILDING CODE SECTION SIX DASH 1.16.
SO, SO THAT CAN BE DONE WHEN THEY APPLY FOR THEIR BUILDING PERMITS? YEAH.
UH, GREAT, GREAT REFERENCES THE BUILDING CODE RATHER THAN SPECIFICALLY SAYING.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. PATEL? UM, YOU HAVE THE STORM, I GUESS THIS IS THE OVERFLOW FROM, UH, THE POOL THAT'S GOING IN THE BIO RETENTION BASIN ALONG WITH THE, UH, WATER FROM THE POOL.
IS THAT SAFE FOR THE, UH, PLANTS? I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF WATER IS THAT? SALT WATER? YEAH, IT IS GONNA BE A SALT WATER POOL.
UM, AND ACTUALLY, I MEAN, I THINK REBECCA SO'S HERE WHO IS ACTUALLY FROM THE POOL COMPANY, BUT I ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN THINK THIS POOL REQUIRES DRAW DOWN, UH, THE, THE TYPE OF POOL THAT THEY'RE INSTALLING.
MAYBE SHE COULD SPEAK TO THAT IF SHE WAS LISTENING OR ABLE TO, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT I COULD ACTUALLY BE REMOVED FROM THE PLAN.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD FIGURED OUT AFTER, UH, UH, PROPOSING IT.
AND AFTER THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL, THE, THE FILTER THAT WE DO INSTALL DOES NOT REQUIRE A DRAW DOWN AT ALL.
IT'S ACTUALLY A PIPE LIST SYSTEM.
SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PIPING AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE POOL THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DRAINED FOR THE WINTER TO WINTERIZE IT.
IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR AFFILIATION FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MY NAME IS REBECCA RAHI AND I'M FROM BEST AND BACKYARDS.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
UM, SEEING NO QUESTIONS, UH, I WILL SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS CASE, UH, FOR CASE PB 25 33 ON JUNE 3RD.
OUR OFFICE WILL REACH OUT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AND REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC HEARING SIGNAGE TO BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY.
SO WE'LL BE IN TOUCH EITHER TOMORROW OR FRIDAY.
ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, CASE NUMBER PB 26 0 7 HONG, UH, AT 100 OLD ARMY ROAD, UH, PO SCARSDALE.
THE APPLICANT, UH, IS SEEKING A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, UH, PLANNING BOARDS, DEEP SLOPE PERMIT, AND A TRUE REMOVAL PERMIT.
SO THIS IS AN INITIAL CONFERENCE, UH, A PRE-APPLICATION, UH, PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCE, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT? NO, NO, WITH THE
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PREVIOUS ONE.OH, WITH THE PREVIOUS ONE, OKAY.
THANK, WE'LL WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE THIRD.
SO I DO KNOW I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO, UH, THE HUNG APPLICATION.
I WAS IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT'S DESIGN PROFESSIONAL, MR. ENO AND HIS OFFICE, UH, EARLIER TODAY.
THEY HAD ASKED IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO JOIN VIA AN IPAD.
AND I SAID I, WE DID RESPOND THAT, UM, IF IT HAD, I THOUGHT THEY MEANT BRINGING IT HERE AND MAYBE SHARING THE PLANS VIA AN IPAD.
SO I SAID, IF YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, AN INTERNET CONNECTION AND THE PLAN'S AVAILABLE AND YOU JOIN THE ZOOM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, I LATER HEARD THAT THEY WERE GONNA TRY AND RUN HOME AND GET THE, THE LAPTOP.
HOWEVER, I DID INDICATE THAT I THOUGHT WE MIGHT NOT GET TO THEM UNTIL, WELL, I ACTUALLY GAVE THE LATEST WE WOULD GET TO THEM, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT EIGHT 15 OR EIGHT 30.
SO, UM, I THINK WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM AND IF THEY SHOW UP LATER, WE'LL JUST TAKE THEM ON THE BACK END.
'CAUSE COMMISSIONER DUANE IS PRESENT OKAY.
FOR THE CHAPTER 2 85 UPDATES 1.0.
UM, HOW ARE WE FEELING? DO WE WANT TO TAKE A QUICK RECESS OR DO WE WANNA JUMP RIGHT INTO 2 85? I'M FINE JUMP RIGHT.
UM, AND IS COMMISSIONER DUQUE JOINING US? I BELIEVE HE IS GONNA COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM.
WE'LL GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO, UH, OKIE.
DO MO MOSEY DOWN, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE? YEAH.
I, I JUST KNOW THERE SOME QUESTIONS THERE.
WE COULD PAUSE IT FOR A MINUTE.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL BE BACK IN A MOMENT.
ONCE, UH, COMMISSIONER DUANE, UH, JOINS US.
ALRIGHT, WELCOME BACK TO THE WEDNESDAY MAY 20TH, 2026 PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
UH, IT IS 7:50 PM UH, FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOPING TO TUNE IN TO THE CHAPTER 2 85 UPDATE.
UH, YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT REPRESENTING CASE NUMBER PB 26 0 7 WITH US.
UH, THAT IS HUNG AT A HUNDRED OLD ARMY ROAD IN PO.
UH, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY, UH, PRELIMINARY, UH, CONFERENCE.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, A PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, I HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, UH, IN THE PAST, BUT, UH, UH, MY NAME IS ELLIOT SENOR, S-E-N-O-R, AT, UH, OFFICE AT 90 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE IN HARTSDALE.
WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 73 YEARS NOW, SO I LIKE THAT, ALTHOUGH, WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH LONGER.
UM, SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION ON ALD ARMY ROAD.
UH, SO THIS, THIS, UH, HOUSE HERE EXISTS.
THERE IS A CURRENT TAX LOT ON THE CORNER OF LEY ROAD AND OLD ARMY ROAD.
UH, IT'S THIS LINE HERE, ALL RIGHT.
UH, THEY'RE BEING ASSESSED, UH, A MILLION DOLLAR VALUE ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND SO THEY FIGURED THAT THEY WOULD, UH, UH, SUBDIVIDE, SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY AND THEN SELL, YOU KNOW, SELL THE LOTS OFF BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE TAXES.
UH, THEY LIVE IN THAT CURRENT HOUSE AND THEY PLAN TO STAY IN THAT HOUSE.
UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, UH, TWO DRIVEWAYS, TWO NEW HOUSES.
SO THERE'S, BETWEEN THE TWO TAX LOTS, WE'RE ADDING ONE ADDITIONAL HOUSE.
SO WHERE WE HAVE TWO COULD BE BUILT AND WE'RE BUILDING ONE ADDITIONAL, WE'RE GONNA BUILD, UH, THERE'LL BE THREE ALTOGETHER.
UH, THE PROPERTIES, THE DRIVEWAYS WILL COME OFF OLD ARMY ROAD, UH, ONE HERE AND THEN ONE HERE.
UM, AND, UH, SERVING THE HOUSES.
UM, THESE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, TYPICAL HOUSES.
NOT, UH, ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD.
UH, THIS AREA, THIS IS THE STEEP SLOPES AREA.
UH, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF STEEP SLOPES COMING UP.
IF YOU'VE BEEN UP LEY ROAD, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S VERY STEEP GOING UP, UH, AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON BUILDING ON ANY OF THAT STEEP SLOPES.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BUILD ON THE FLAT AREA HERE AND THIS AREA HERE, UM, WHICH DOES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STEEP SLOPES, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT MEETS THE CRITERIA BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH AND AREA OF THE WIDTH.
I GUESS SOME OF IT DOES, UH, MEETS THE, THE CRITERIA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF STEEP SLOPES ALONG OUR OLD ARMY ROAD.
UH, WE'RE GONNA CUT TWO DRIVEWAYS THROUGH THERE, UM, AND PROBABLY SHAVE BACK SOME OF THE OTHER, UH,
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CLIFF AREA TO GET A BETTER SITE DISTANCE UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.UM, ALRIGHT, WHAT ELSE WE GOT HERE? UM, SO THIS IS THE, UH, THE TREE PLAN.
UH, WE ARE TAKING DOWN TREES, UH, IN THE, IN THE, UH, BUILDING AREAS IN HERE AND HERE.
UH, BUT ALL THE REST OF THE TREES AROUND THIS, CERTAINLY WE'RE NOT DISTURBING ANY OF THE STEEP SLOPES, UM, ALONG LEY ROAD OR IN THE BACK.
UH, AND ALL THOSE VEGETATION WILL REMAIN, UH, THE WAY IT IS.
DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH APPROXIMATION OF HOW MANY TREES? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR IN THE PLAN, SO JUST CURIOUS.
SO WE DID HAVE A LISTING HERE ON THE SIDE OF THE TREES THAT ARE COMING, UH, THAT ARE THERE.
AND THEN, UH, THE ONES THAT ARE, HAS A COLUMN FOR REMAIN AND A COLUMN FOR REMOVE.
UH, THERE IS, UH, I CAN COUNT IT, BUT, UH, NO, THAT'S OKAY.
IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UM, PRELIMINARY PRESENT BOARD REPORT UNDER TREE REMOVAL AND LANDSCAPING PLANS, IT SHOWS THE APPLICANT HAS ESTIMATED THAT 61 TREES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, FOR REMOVAL.
IT WAS A SOMEWHAT OF A LEADING QUESTION, SHUCKS.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A I THE ANSWER.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT FORMULA AND, UH, WE DO PERMIT, UM, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, MET IN ORDER FOR US TO PROCEED.
UH, WE DID DO, UH, SOME PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE, UH, IN THE AREA AS WELL.
UM, I GUESS IT'S NOT ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, SHEET.
UM, YEAH, SO HERE'S THE, UH, DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS IN THIS AREA HERE ON THE RIGHT.
UM, THE EXISTING HOUSE, UH, WAS BUILT, I DON'T KNOW, 10, 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO.
UH, WE WERE HERE AT THAT TIME, UM, AT LEAST, YEAH, AT LEAST SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY, BUT I GUESS IT'S GOTTA BE, YEAH, MAYBE IT'S GOING ON.
15, 20 MIGHT BE CLOSER TO 20 YEARS.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY, UH, DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS HERE.
UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT ALL UNDERGROUND IN CALTECH, UH, CHAMBERS.
UH, WE HAD DONE, UH, UH, OUR OWN PERC TEST, UM, AND, UH, WE CAN SUBMIT THAT DATA TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME.
UM, SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE STORMS. I, UH, I HAVE TREES DOWN ON THE STREETS TO MY HOUSE AND, UH, HALF OF IT'S CLOSED.
MY, MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T BRING MY, MY, UH, LAPTOP WITH ME TODAY BECAUSE I WASN'T, DIDN'T KNOW WE NEEDED IT.
SHE WENT ON TO GET IT AND SHE ACTUALLY HAD TO DRIVE UNDER A TREE THAT'S FALLEN ACROSS THE, THE ROAD IN ORDER TO GET BACK.
WELL, WE, UH, WELL, WE, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US THIS EVENING.
UM, I, I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
SO, SO YOU MENTIONED THE, I GUESS THERE'LL BE TWO NEW CURB CUTS YES.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A, A GOOGLE MAPS STREET VIEW OF, OF WHERE YOU APPROXIMATE THOSE ENTRANCES TO BE? UM, I CAN, I GUESS SINCE I'M CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET, I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.
SO THIS IS THE, UH, I THINK YOU'RE JUST SHARING YOUR WINDOW.
YOU WOULD HAVE, I GOTTA UNSHARE AND RESHARE.
AND THIS ONE OLD ARMY ROAD CLIMBS UP FROM, FROM MARLEY ROAD, HARDLEY ROAD INTERSECTION.
SO THIS, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE EXISTING HOUSE.
UH, AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE GOING DOWN THIS WAY.
UM, SO, UH, ONE OF THEM IS GONNA PROBABLY BE AROUND HERE.
AND NOW THAT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ROCK WALL.
SO HOW, HOW, HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE BREAKING THROUGH THAT? UM, IT'S VERY, UM, UM, ATED.
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GONNA RE, UH, REMOVE WHAT COMES OFF, UH, WITH THE EXCAVATOR BY ITSELF.AND THEN WHATEVER ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE IS GONNA BE, UH, CHIPPED.
SO ALLS WE NEED IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, A 15 FOOT, AN 18 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY THROUGH THE ROCK.
WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE DOWN, TAKE IT DOWN THE WHOLE WAY.
UH, WE ARE GONNA TAKE OFF SOME OF THE FACE.
UM, MOST OF IT'LL COME OFF, UH, WITH THE EXCAVATOR TO GET A BETTER SIGHT DISTANCE UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY BLASTING? NO, THIS WILL ALL BE DONE THROUGH CHIPPING.
AND SO HERE, THIS WOULD BE ONE ENTRANCE, APPROXIMATELY.
AND THEN WHERE, AND THE OTHER ONE IS CLOSER TO THE, UM, THEY'RE NOT THAT FAR APART.
UM, THAT WOULD BE IN THIS AREA HERE.
WE, IF I MAY PLEASE HAVE YOU LOOKED AT, UM, SITE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DRIVEWAYS AND WHETHER OR NOT WHERE THEY'RE POSITIONED? UM, YEAH, I THINK ONE OF OUR PLANS THAT WE SUBMITTED CHOSE SITE LINES ON IT.
UH, AND IT SHOWS HOW MUCH OF A FACE OF THE ROCK THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SHAVED OFF.
IT'S NOT VERY MUCH ORDER TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.
IF, UH, AND THIS, THIS, THIS APPLICATION DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES.
UM, WHILE I RECOGNIZE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SUGGEST, MIGHT, MIGHT REQUIRE A VARIANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD THE APPLICANT CONSIDER POTENTIALLY ONE, ONE SHARED DRIVEWAY WITH, YOU KNOW, A, A Y AT THE END ACCESSING TWO HOMES? SO THAT THAT WOULD ONLY BE ONE, ONE SECTION OF THE ROCK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CHIPPED AND ULTIMATELY ONLY ONE ADDITIONAL CURB CUT ON OLD ARMY ROAD? UH, YES.
UM, ALL RIGHT, SO THIS PAGE HAS GOT THE, UM, UH, THE SIGHT LINES IN IT.
UH, WE HAD DRAWN UP A, UH, A SINGLE DRIVEWAY CURB CUT ON THE PLAN, UM, FOR THE TWO NEW HOUSES MM-HMM
AND THEY COME OFF ON THE SAME PLACE, AND ONE GOES UP THE HILL AND THE OTHER ONE GOES OFF TO THE LEFT.
UM, SO WE HAVE CONSIDERED THAT, AND WE, WE CAN CONSIDER IT.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO SUBMIT THAT AS OUR, OUR FIRST THING BECAUSE IT, IT WOULD REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A WHOLE NOTHER SURE REQUIREMENT.
SO CERTAINLY IF YOU SUGGEST THAT AND SUPPORT THE APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
UM, HOW WIDE COULD THE DRIVEWAY BE THEN? RIGHT.
GENERALLY A FIRE ACCESS IS A 20 FOOT WIDE, 20 FOOT, UM, DRIVEWAY.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S SOME TURNAROUND REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH OPTION FOR THE TURNAROUND.
GENERALLY, A FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY PULL UP A DRIVEWAY, A SHORT DISTANCE IN ORDER TO FIGHT A FIRE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THAT CLOSE WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT.
UM, SO IT'D BE KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ON THIS.
YEAH, I'D, I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT THE, WHAT THE GREENVILLE FIRE DISTRICT THOUGHT.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL KIND OF IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASE HERE, IF YOU WANTED TO ARRANGE FOR, TO WORK WITH OUR OFFICE TO ARRANGE FOR A MEETING WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, ON THE FRONT END SO YOU CAN GET THEIR FEEDBACK BEFORE YOU DRILL INTO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER DETAILED PLANS ON A SHARED
AND THERE ALSO MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT IT TO THE EXISTING HOUSE DRIVEWAY AND JUST COME IN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR AN EMERGENCY PURPOSE TO GO OUT THAT THROUGH THAT DRIVEWAY.
UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, I I, I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT THE FIRE DISTRICT THOUGHT.
I, I THINK THERE'D BE SOME, SOME HESITATION TO HAVE THREE HOUSES ACCESSED BY ONE DRIVEWAY.
WELL, IT WOULD BE A REGULAR BASIS, BUT YEAH.
AND, AND IT WOULD BE A, A, A HORSESHOE, SO TO SPEAK.
IT'S IN AND OUT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO TURN AROUND, SO THEY MAY LIKE IT BETTER.
I, I, IF, IF YOU, DO YOU HAVE, IT'S NOT POTENTIAL PLANS YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE OR? WELL, I CAN, UH, JUST, UH, SHOW YOU.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ALLOWING ME TO SHARE.
DID THEY, DID THEY CUT THAT OFF IN THE BACK ROOM? NO, YOU SHOULD BE OKAY.
UH, I WAS DOING THE WRONG SHARE.
SO THIS, THE CURRENT HOUSE DRIVEWAY, UH, COMES UP HERE INTO A GARAGE THERE.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA COME INTO A DRIVEWAY, HEARSAY,
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WE CAN TO CONNECT TO THIS HOUSE, WE MAY HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ACROSS THIS PROPERTY LINE.SO IF A FIRETRUCK WAS TO COME UP EITHER WAY, THAT WAY, UH, THEY CAN GO OUT THROUGH HERE OR VICE VERSA.
SO IT WOULDN'T NEED A TURNAROUND, WHICH, UH, IS PROBABLY BETTER FOR THEM.
BUT WE'VE EVEN SEEN, LIKE, UM, FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS WAVES LIKE GRASS CREEK PAVERS.
IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE A DRIVEWAY PART.
IT WOULD BE LONG AS SOMETHING ALONG TEMPORARY FOR EMERGENCY DESIGNED TO REINFORCE.
WE'VE DONE REINFORCED THE EARTH, YOU KNOW, UH, GRAVEL PAVE, WE DID THESE, UM, UM, UH, HONEYCOMB TYPE OF THINGS.
OR, UH, OR JUST, UH, STRUCTURAL, UM, FILM MATERIAL.
AND, AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE, UM, THE OLD ARMY ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECT THAT THE TOWN IS CURRENTLY ENGAGING IN? NO.
SO, SO THE TOWN IS IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, THROUGH A NEW YORK STATE TAP GRANT, UM, COMPLETE, COMPLETELY REFURBISHING THE SIDEWALK ON OLD ARMY FROM ARDSLEY ROAD TO CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY INCLUDE THE, THE SIDEWALK THAT'S CURRENTLY IN, IN FRONT OF 100 OLD ARMY ROAD.
UM, HAD, HAD YOU PUT ANY THOUGHTS IN YOUR PLANS TO IMPROVING THE SIDEWALK, UH, ON, ON THE FRONTAGE OF THE HOMES OR ANY OTHER PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS? UM, YEAH, NO, NO, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR YOU TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE PAVERS AND PUT IN, UM, GRAVEL AT THE DRIVEWAY AT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR? WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
THEY WERE REMOVING THE CONCRETE PAVERS.
UM, I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO THEIR GARAGE AND THEY'RE REPLACING WITH GRAVEL DRIVE.
UM, JUST PROPOSED GRAVEL DRIVEWAY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT, UH, WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.
BUT WE DO SHOW THAT THE GRAVEL, THE, THE PAVERS ARE FOR THE FIRST COUPLE HUNDRED, UH, FIRST SEVERAL FEET, UH, UP TO HERE.
I, I'D HAVE TO THINK AND SEE WHAT, THERE MAY BE A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
I'LL HAVE TO TALK TO MY PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE.
AND, AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE OTHER DRIVEWAY THAT'S CONNECTED TO ITS, OH, THAT IS, UH, OLD EASEMENT.
SO THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY SERVED THROUGH AN EASEMENT ORIGINALLY ON THE PROPERTY TO THE, UH, TO THE NORTH THAT, SO THAT IS A DRIVEWAY EASEMENT, UH, THAT GOES THROUGH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
WHEN WE BUILT THIS HOUSE, WE PUT A NEW ENTRANCE, UH, IN, THROUGH A NEW CURB CUT IN THROUGH OLD ARMY ROAD.
UH, BUT THAT DRIVEWAY EASEMENT IS, UH, GIVES US ACCESS THROUGH THAT PROPERTY, BUT WE DON'T USE THAT AT THIS TIME.
AND, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THERE WAS A, A SIMILAR APPLICATION 20 SOME ODD YEARS AGO.
COULD, COULD YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THAT APPLICATION? UM, YEAH, THERE WAS A SIMILAR APPLICATION, UH, FOUR OR THREE LOT SUBDIVISION.
UH, UM, THE PEOPLE WANTED TO MOVE INTO THE HOUSE OR BUILD A HOUSE RIGHT AWAY.
THERE WAS, UH, AT, UH, AT THAT TIME, I GUESS IT WAS JUST NEWLY FORMED THAT YOU COULDN'T GO TO A SUBDIVISION FOR FIVE YEARS AFTER THERE'S NO, UH, THERE AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, BUILDING PERMIT ON AN OVERSIZED LAW.
ESSENTIALLY, YOU COULDN'T GO, YOU COULDN'T APPLY FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO THEY HAD THE, UH, THE, THE PERMIT TO GO FOR THE HOUSE AT THAT POINT.
UM, IT WAS, IT WAS PRIVATE UNTIL, I GUESS THE TOWN REASSESSED.
AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING HIT WITH SOME PRETTY HEFTY TAX BILLS THAT THEY DECIDED TO FINISH UP WHAT THEY STARTED 20 YEARS AGO.
THE SUBDIVISION, THE FORMER SUBDIVISION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WAS WITHDRAWN.
SO IF THEY FORMALLY APPLY, STAFF WILL, UH, RESEARCH THE PRIOR RECORDS, JUST SO THIS BOARD UNDERSTANDS THE PROPOSAL THAT TOOK PLACE PROBABLY 25 YEARS AGO.
I JUST STARTED, I'M GETTING OLD
UH, AND WE'LL CIRCULATE ANY RELEVANT DOCUMENTS JUST SO THAT THIS BOARD HAS THAT INFORMATION.
UM, I, I NOTICED ON THE PLANS THAT THERE LOOKED TO BE A, UH, A STONE GARDEN SHED YEAH.
IN THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY IMAGES OF THAT SHED OR IS THERE ANY HISTORY OF THAT SHED? UM, THERE'S NO REAL HISTORY OF THE SHED.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY A HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY THAT HAD A TALL SPIRE AT SOME POINT.
UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE FIRST, UH, UH, BUILDING PERMIT FOR THIS HOUSE TO MAKE SURE WE REMOVED THAT.
I DON'T, UH, IT WASN'T ANY HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THAT BUILDING.
AND THIS WAS JUST A, LIKE A GARDEN AREA TO THAT BUILDING.
SO THE, THE PREVIOUS BUILDING PERMIT
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HAD APPROVALS TO, TO TAKE THE SHED DOWN AND THE SHED, WELL, THE SHED, IT'S NOT REALLY A SHED.I THINK IT WAS MORE OF A, JUST A SHADE STRUCTURE, A STONE AREA WITH A SHADE STRUCTURE ON TOP.
IT DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK IT HAD AN ACTUAL ROOF ON IT OR A SOLID ROOF.
UH, BUT THERE WAS A PREVIOUS BUILDING ON ALL OF THIS PRO ON THAT PROPERTY, UM, WAY BACK WHEN.
UH, THAT, THAT WAS TORN DOWN, UH, I GUESS 25 YEARS AGO OR SO.
WITH RESPECT TO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, I KNOW IT'S EARLY.
UM, OUR, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD INVOLVE OVER AN ACRE OF DISTURBANCE OR NOT.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE CALCULATED THAT AS YOU KNOW, AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, THERE ARE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS WHEN AND IF, IF YOU WERE UNDER THE ONE ACRE THRESHOLD AND JUST SUBJECT TO THE LOCAL REGS WHICH REQUIRE DESIGNING TO A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT, UM, THIS BOARD CONSISTENTLY ASKS APPLICANTS IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGN FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN GIVEN THE RECENT SEVERITY OF STORM EVENTS.
SO WE WOULD, I, AND I, I, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW MR. CNO, HE IS PRESENTED HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES AND TYPICALLY SAYS I ALWAYS OVER DESIGN, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AT THIS TIME SO THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF ANY FORMAL SUBMISSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ANY, UM, ONE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, IF THERE WAS A FORMAL SUBMISSION, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BOARD MEMBERS TO GET OUT TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, PROBABLY AS LIKE SMALL GROUP SITE VISITS.
SO JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU AND YOUR CLIENT TO BE AWARE OF THAT THERE WOULD BE INTERESTS FROM STAFF IN THE BOARD.
YEAH, I MEAN, IF THEY JUST LET US KNOW WHEN IT IS, OF COURSE.
YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO, WHO WOULD WE CONTACT? WE COORDINATE.
WHO WOULD WE CONTACT? UH, SO WHEN THE FORMAL SUBMISSION, OH, WHEN AND IF THEN, UH, THAT WOULD RUN THROUGH OUR OFFICE AND WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH, UH, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE PROJECT.
WHAT, UM, WHAT DECISIONS DO YOU STILL HAVE ON YOUR END BEFORE YOU CONSIDER SUBMITTING OR, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU, UH, BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE PLANS.
UH, SHOULD WE SUBMIT THIS PLAN AND A, UM, AND A COMMON DRIVE? WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL IS, UM, TO ARRANGE FOR THIS MEETING WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT MM-HMM
BECAUSE AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THEY WERE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE SHARED DRIVEWAY LAYOUT, THEN WE DON'T NEED THAT.
THEN YOU PROBABLY WANT THAT IN WRITING AND BE ABLE TO RELAY THAT TO THIS BOARD.
UM, AND THEN PERHAPS NOT PURSUE IT.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE CAN DO THAT AS SOON AS YEAH.
POSSIBLE ALSO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SO THAT THEY COULD LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GIVE THEM A COURTESY COPY MM-HMM
ARE YOU GONNA ARRANGE THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT MEETING OR DO I YOU WOULD EMAIL ME AS A REMINDER.
AND
AND WE WILL GET SOME, UH, DATES AND TIMES AVAILABLE FROM THE FIRE CHIEF AND OTHER PERSONNEL, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL COORDINATE.
UH, MS. MAGANA, SHOULD THEY, UM, WITH THEIR FORMAL APPLICATION, UM, BECAUSE THREE PEOPLE ARE, UH, OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, SHOULDN'T THERE BE SOME KIND OF DOCUMENT THAT'S SAYING THAT THE ONE PERSON IS LEADING THE WHOLE PROJECT AND THAT THEY AGREE WITH IT? SO, LIKE, CURRENTLY HUNG IS THE PRELIMINARY APPLICANT, BUT UM, ONLY LEE IS, HAS SIGNED SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS.
CHEN HAS NOT SIGNED ANY OF THE DOCUMENTS OTHER THAN THE AFFIDAVIT.
SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING THE AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP, NOT THE AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP.
I THINK IT THAT THEY AGREE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT THERE'S A, A LETTER LIKE AUTHORIZATION AUTHORIZATION EXACTLY.
FOR ONE OF THE THREE TO SIGN AND FILE, RIGHT? I THINK IS THE QUESTION.
YOU CAN REQUEST THAT SINCE THERE'S MULTIPLE OWNERS, IT'S NOT A FAMILIAL OR, OR SPOUSAL RELATIONSHIP.
AND ACCORDING TO THE DE THERE WERE OTHER THREE OF THEM ARE SISTERS, BUT YEAH.
I GUESS IT'S, IT SAYS THOUGH IN THE DEED THAT IT, THEY EACH OWN A THIRD, WHICH MEANS EACH ONE HAS TO AGREE TO WHATEVER IS HAPPENING HOUSE.
ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY BUILT THE HOUSE, THEY, WE HAD PROPOSED THREE HOUSES, ONE FOR EACH OF THE SISTERS.
UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S STILL, UH, STILL MAY BE THE PLAN, BUT I'LL
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CONFIRM THAT AND WE'LL GET A, WE'LL GET A, UH, AN AFFIDAVIT FOR THEM TO SAY THAT ONE IS THE SPOKESPERSON.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
THERE'S A TREE FALLING DOWN ACROSS THE ROAD.
SHE HAD TO GO AROUND THE OTHER WAY.
AND THEN THERE WAS A TREE, UH, UH, THAT WAS LEANING ON THE POWER LINES.
SO IT WAS BAD UP THE LINE THERE.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER DUQUESNE, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, COME ON DOWN
COMMISSIONER PINE AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS GONNA BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME TIME TO REVIEW, UH, THE CHAPTER 2 85 ZONING TEXT AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.
AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH YOU THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IN ADDITION TO YOUR IMPORTANT ROLES, REVIEWING SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN, SPECIAL PERMIT, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, TOWN TOWN STAFF WILL ASSIST PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS IN THE CURRENT PROJECT, WHICH INVOLVES YOUR ROLE IN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AND REPORT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
THE TOWN BOARD VALUES THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND OFTEN THE RELATED PLANNING BOARD DOCUMENTATION IN YOUR WRITTEN REPORTS TO THE TOWN BOARD FORMS THE BACKBONE OF THE TOWN BOARD'S ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
FROM A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE, THE TOWN BOARD WILL NOT HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS UNTIL IT RECEIVES THE PLANNING BOARD'S INPUT.
EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT THE PLANNING BOARD'S ROLE IN THE ZONING TEXT AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENT PROCESS CONSISTENTLY LEADS TO IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PROPOSALS AND IN MY INTERACTIONS WITH PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS TO DATE.
AND IN HEARING SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE FOR CHAPTER 2 85 ALREADY, I CAN SEE THAT THIS PROCESS WILL BE NO DIFFERENT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CHAPTER 2 85 DOCUMENT REVIEWS THAT YOU'VE BEEN CONDUCTING TO DATE FOR WATCHING THE INFORMATIONAL VIDEO THAT I PREPARED AND FOR DROPPING IN ON THE WEEKLY INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS.
ANOTHER MORE CONCRETE EXAMPLE OF THE PROCESS WORKING IS TO DATE, WE'VE HAD SEPARATE INQUIRIES FROM A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER AND A CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO BOTH ASKED IF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND PROPOSED UPDATES APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS THE PROSPECT OF DATA CENTER PROPOSALS.
JUST SIMPLY POSING THIS QUESTION WILL LEAD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT THE ADDITIONAL UPDATES THAT ADDITIONAL UPDATES ARE NEEDED TO APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS DATA CENTERS.
SO IF THAT QUESTION WASN'T ASKED, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WE WOULDN'T HAVE PICKED UP ON IT, BUT IT DEFINITELY PUTS IT AT THE FOREFRONT OF A GAP IN WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.
THAT JUST SHOWS HOW THE PROCESS CAN WORK WELL FOR ANYONE WATCHING THIS EVENING.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR FOR CONTEXT, ON MARCH 11TH, 2026, THE TOWN BOARD INITIATED A FORMAL PROCESS OF REVIEW FOR PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP REVISIONS, WHICH WERE PREPARED BY TOWN STAFF IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE TO FACILITATE LOGICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN, ADAPT TO CHANGES IN VARIOUS INDUSTRIES, MINIMIZE VACANCIES, IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS, AND IMPROVE CONDITIONS FOR THOSE SEEKING TO INVEST IN THE TOWN WHILE ADHERING TO BEST PRACTICES WITH RESPECT TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS AND ENHANCING SAFETY.
THE TOWN ZONING MAP AND ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATE HOW AND TO WHAT INTENSITY LAND USE LAND IS USED IN THE TOWN.
TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON A FEW INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS OF THE OVERALL CHANGES.
THE PROPOSED TERRYTOWN ROAD MIXED USE DISTRICT, THE REMOVAL OF THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT, AND THE ADDITION OF THE M 30 DISTRICT.
LOOKING AT UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS, WE LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING BY OTHER TOPICS ON JUNE 3RD, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THE KEEPING OF CHICKENS AND CANNABIS.
ON JUNE 17TH, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE CENTRAL AVENUE AND DS DISTRICT UPDATES, RESTAURANT RECLASSIFICATIONS AND OFF STREET PARKING CONSIDERATIONS.
AND THEN IN JULY, WE ARE SLATED TO GO OVER ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS WITH THE CD DISTRICT, UH, CD OVERLAY, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND THE SLOPE WETLAND DISTURBANCE AND DEDUCTION AMENDMENTS, AS WELL AS EV CHARGING STATIONS AND ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD WANTS AND DEFINITELY DATA CENTERS.
PROCEDURE WISE, WE DISTRIBUTED TO YOU A HARD COPY OF WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE TR DISTRICT AND M 30 DISTRICT WORKSHEETS FOR YOU TO TAKE NOTES ON.
IF YOU WISH, WE'RE GONNA EMAIL THOSE TO YOU AS WELL.
WHAT THOSE ARE ATTEMPTING TO ASSIST IS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD'S REQUIRED TO PREPARE A REPORT THAT ADDRESSES FOUR CATEGORIES OF CONSIDERATION.
THE TOWN BOARD REFERS A ZONING TEXT AND A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, AND THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMILAR, BUT THEY, THEY ALL WILL BE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED AND VOTED ON BY THE PLANNING BOARD IN ADDITION TO THE RECOMMENDATION YOU ULTIMATELY MAKE.
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WHEN WE SET OUT ON UPDATING THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ONE OF THE KEY OBJECTIVES WAS TO PROPOSE LOGICAL CHANGES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S 2016 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.MANY OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS CAN BE CITED BACK TO A VERY SPECIFIC POLICY IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHILE OTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE CORRELATED TO A MORE GENERAL POLICY OR GUIDING PRINCIPLE IN THE PLAN.
WHAT WE'LL COVER TONIGHT HAS BOTH OF THOSE AREAS.
BOTH OF THOSE EXAMPLES, BOTH THE M 30 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AND THE TERRYTOWN ROAD MIXED USE DISTRICT ARE NEWLY PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WOULD REPLACE THE REMAINING LAND AREAS IN THE TOWN THAT ARE ZONED URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
MATT, IF YOU PLEASE START UP THE SLIDES OR WHOEVER'S GONNA DO THAT, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A VERY SPECIFIC POLICY THAT RECOMMENDS THE REMOVAL OF THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
SO WE KNEW THAT'S A MISSION THAT AS PLANNING STAFF, WE HAD TO UNDERTAKE COMPREHENSIVE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS CREATE A TR DISTRICT OR AN M 30 DISTRICT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT URBAN RENEWAL IS A DATED AND NO LONGER APPLICABLE FEDERAL POLICY, WHICH CEASED IN 1972.
THAT RESULTED IN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FOR THE FAIRVIEW PORTION OF THE TOWN, SUCH AS FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IT ALSO RESULTED IN STREET GRID REMOVAL IN THE AREAS OF MANHATTAN AVENUE AND CROSSROAD SHOPPING CENTER.
IT ALSO RESULTED IN THE, THESE COMMERCIAL LAYOUTS THAT ARE, WE SEE NOW ON ROUTE NINE, ROUTE ONE 19, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL MIX, UH, AROUND BETWEEN ROUTE ONE 19 AND OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD.
IT'S ALL HISTORICALLY UR DISTRICT.
SO ON THE SCREEN WHAT WE HAVE IS AN IMAGE AND A MAP FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND SOME, A GOOD MAJORITY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT HAS BEEN, UH, DE MAPPED, IF YOU WILL, OR REZONED.
AND THOSE AREAS ARE SHOWN, GOSH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT COLOR THAT IS, BUT IT'S THE 2018 REZONE TO R FIVE LTF.
SO ALL OF THAT WAS FORMERLY URBAN RENEWAL AND IT WAS REZONED IN 2018 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAID TO DO DO.
AND THEN THE YELLOW TO THE TOP ALSO IN 2018 WAS REZONED TO R FIVE LIMITED MULTIFAMILY.
IN 2017, THERE'S, UH, RIGHT SOUTH OF THE OVERPASS, UH, TO 2 87.
THAT WAS URBAN RENEWAL AS WELL.
AND IT WAS REZONED TO THE MSH 62, WHICH IS SENIOR HOUSING MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
SO WHAT THAT'S LEFT US WITH IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS THE FRONTING PROPERTIES ON ROUTE ONE 19 THAT STILL REMAIN WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL.
AND THEN, UH, TWO SITES, UH, NORTH OF THE 2 87 OVERPASS THAT HAVE THREE, UH, MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
SO, UH, THOSE COMPRISE THE, UH, REMAINING URBAN RENEWAL.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT SAY TO CREATE AN M 30 DISTRICT, BUT IT DOES SAY CREATE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS FOR THE LOTS CURRENTLY ZONE UR.
DESPITE THIS, WE DID TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE EXISTING ZONES TO SEE IF AN APPROPRIATE REPLACEMENT WAS AVAILABLE.
NOW I'M FOCUSING ON THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS OFF OF MANHATTAN AVENUE.
WE'LL GET TO, UH, ONE 19 IN JUST A MOMENT.
SO WE LOOKED AT THE M 25 DISTRICT, WHICH IS AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS 1,700, HAS A 1,750 FOOT, 50 SQUARE FOOT PER UNIT, UM, DENSITY CALCULATION THAT WAS REVIEWED.
AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE M1 74 DISTRICT TO SEE IF WE HAD AN EXISTING ZONE IN THE TOWN THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT.
THE M1 74 DISTRICT PERMITS ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT FOR EVERY 250 SQUARE FEET.
AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO, IT RENDERS A DENSITY THAT WOULD OVERWHELM THE SITE.
IT WOULD JUST SIMPLY ALLOW SO MANY UNITS, I THINK OVER A THOUSAND UNITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT JUST SIMPLY WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE.
CONVERSELY, THE M 25, THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY THERE WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR REDEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ATTAIN A COMPARABLE DENSITY THAT EXISTS TODAY.
SO REALLY IT WAS QUITE CLEAR THAT A, A NEW ZONE WAS NECESSARY.
SO SOME KEY FEATURES OF THE M1 M 30 DISTRICT ARE A RATIO OF ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT FOR EVERY 1,500 SQUARE FEET OF LAND AREA SETBACKS THAT ARE BALANCED AND CLOSER TO THE M 25 DISTRICT THAN THE M1 74 DISTRICT AND A FOUR STORY 50 FOOT HEIGHT MAXIMUM, OR A FIVE STORY 60 FEET HIGH MAXIMUM IF THE APPROVING BOARD DEEMS IT APPROPRIATE BASED ON LANDSCAPING AND SURROUNDING CONDITIONS.
ALSO, OF NOTE, THE PARKING STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN ALL THE M DISTRICTS
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CAN BE REDUCED TO ONE SPACE PER UNIT WHERE GOOD ACCESS TO MULTIMODAL TRANSIT OPTIONS EXIST.AND THAT WOULD BE THE DISCRETION OF THE APPROVING BOARD, BOTH THE HEIGHT AND THAT PARKING CONSIDERATION.
IT WOULDN'T BE OBLIGATED TO GO THAT LOW ON THE PARKING, BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE OPTION IF THERE'S GOOD TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
THE TWO SITES WHERE THE M 30 DISTRICT ARE PROPOSED ARE FULLY BUILT OUT AND THE RESULTANT M 30 DISTRICT WOULD THEREFORE HAVE LITTLE IMPACT PER EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WHERE THE DISTRICT BECOMES APPLICABLE IS IN, LET'S LOOK FORWARD, IN A 10 20 OR 30 30 OR EVEN MORE YEARS OUT, IT BECOMES APPLICABLE IF THERE WAS A RE REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSED ON THAT SITE, IF REDEVELOPMENT WAS SOUGHT.
THE PLANNING STRATEGY HERE WITH THE M 30 IS TO ALLOW FOR A MIX OF UP TO OF, OF, OF SEVERAL FIVE STORY BUILDINGS TO BE CITED IN CHARACTER WITH THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A COMPARABLE DENSITY OF UNITS THAT EXIST TODAY.
THE M 30 WOULD NOT ALLOW REPLICATION OF THE SEVEN STORY BUILDINGS THAT EXIST.
SO, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE TR DISTRICT, I DO WANNA PAUSE THERE AND UM, SEE IF THE BOARD FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH THESE CONCEPTS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NOT AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS M 30 DISTRICT, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE IT BE ON THE ZONING MAP AS AN AVAILABLE ZONE.
JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER ZONES IN THE, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ZONING MAP.
IT WOULD BE ACTIVELY MAPPED ON THESE TWO SITES, BUT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER ZONE, THAT WOULD BE AN AVAILABLE ZONE THAT COULD BE DEPLOYED ELSEWHERE IF THERE WAS A PROPOSAL.
SO IT OFFERS ANOTHER MENU, OPTION OF RANGE OF HOUSING DENSITY, HEIGHT, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO IT'S NOT JUST DESTINED FOR THIS ONE LOCATION.
SO COMMISSIONER, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, WITH THE M 30 DISTRICT, IT WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD TO ALLOW FOR UP TO FIVE STORIES IF LANDSCAPING OR OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, UM, WOULD ONE OF THEM BE PERHAPS IF THE BUILDING WAS FURTHER SET BACK FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, MIGHT THAT BE A CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD BE GIVEN? 'CAUSE CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PLANT FIVE STORY TALL, YOU KNOW, PLANTINGS TO SCREEN THE BUILDING FROM ADJACENT SITES.
SO JUST IN IN CONCEPT, ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S NOT A METRIC THAT SAYS, UH, THE UNDERLYING SETBACK IS X AND IF YOU GO 15 MORE PERCENT YOU CAN GO UP.
BUT PHILOSOPHICALLY, YES, A MAJOR CONSIDERATION IS WHAT'S HAPPENING NEARBY.
UM, ARE YOU TIGHT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR CONVERSELY, UM, ARE YOU ADJACENT TO OPEN SPACE OR EVEN A HIGHWAY OVERPASS, FOR INSTANCE.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND HALF OF THE PRESENTATION AND TRANSITION TO, UH, ROUTE ONE 19.
AND YOU ARE IN THE, UH, UR DISTRICT THERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA PICK BACK UP WITH A COMBINATION OF THE REMOVAL OF THE UR DISTRICT AND THE CREATION OF THE TERRYTOWN ROAD MIXED USE DISTRICT.
AGAIN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT HAVE A POLICY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES HAVE A POLICY ENABLING FOR THE CREATION OF NEW ZONING DISTRICTS TO REPLACE THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
BUT I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THERE'S NO POLICY IN THERE THAT WE CAN POINT TO THAT SAYS THOU SHALT CREATE THE TR DISTRICT.
IT'S A ZONING TOOL THAT, UH, WE EMPLOYED.
'CAUSE WE FEEL THAT IT'S, IT'S APPROPRIATE.
SO THE TR DISTRICT, HOWEVER, DOES MEET THE INTENT OF SEVERAL OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES IN THAT ITS ENACTMENT STRIVES TO FOSTER A COHESIVE MIXED USE CORRIDOR WITH A GOOD RANGE OF USES DESIGNED NOT TO OVERHAUL OR EVEN MODERATELY CHANGE THE CORRIDOR, BUT TO FACILITATE INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THIS WOULD BE DONE BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL USE OPTIONS SHOULD VACANCIES ARRIVE AS ONE EXAMPLE.
SO AGAIN, THE INTENT HERE IS NOT 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THE QUARTER LOOKS MUCH DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'VE CREATED A TR DISTRICT.
WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT INTO THE INTENT AND HOW THE TR DISTRICT WILL FUNCTION.
I WANNA REITERATE THE FACT THAT THE ZONING STRATEGY FOR THE TR DISTRICT IS SIMILAR TO THAT EMPLOYED PREVIOUSLY WITH THE CA DISTRICT.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THIS IN THE VIDEO, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT.
UM, SO HISTORICALLY THE CENTRAL AVENUE WAS A MIX OF AT LEAST SIX DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, APPROXIMATELY 1980.
THESE WERE ALL CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE UNIFIED CA MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH A MAJOR BENEFIT BEING THAT ZONING UPDATES OR MODIFICATIONS TO USES PERMITTED,
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FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN MADE ARE UNIFORMLY UPDATED THROUGHOUT THE QUARTER AS OPPOSED TO MODIFYING ONE OR ANY NUMBER OF THOSE SIX ZONING DISTRICTS.SO ON THE MAP HERE, YOU SEE THE CA DISTRICT THAT WE ALL KNOW.
UM, BUT INDEED PRE 1980, THAT WAS VERY ONE 19 LIKE IN THAT IT JUST HAD HODGEPODGE OF DISTRICTS.
SO WHEN WE EXTRAPOLATE THIS CONCEPT, EXTRAPOLATING THAT FROM TO ROUTE ONE 19, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BORDER FROM THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS TOWARDS THE GREENBURG PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND WE HAVE THE ROOTS OF THE TR MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THE DISTRICT WAS INSPIRED BY THE CA DISTRICT AND CONTAINS HYBRID COMPONENTS OF THE DS DESIGN SHOPPING DISTRICT.
THERE WERE PIECES OF DS ALONG ROUTE ONE 19, AND WE BORROWED SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS AS SHOWN ON THE MAP.
THE DISTRICT COVERS A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT FRONT ON ROUTE ONE 19.
AND IN ADDITION TO REPLACING THE REMAINING UR DISTRICT, IT WOULD ALSO ELIMINATE SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICTS FROM THESE AREAS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THINGS LIKE R SEVEN FIVE, WHICH IS ONE FAMILY DISTRICT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL GO, GO AWAY.
PORTIONS OF THE IB INTERMEDIATE BUSINESS WOULD BE REPLACED, UH, CB CLOSED BUSINESS, UH, R 21 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
AND THEN AS WE GET CLOSER TO WHITE PLAINS, THE IB DISTRICT AS WELL.
AND OF COURSE, THE D GOOD SEGMENT OF DS WOULD BE REPLACED WHEN I INDICATED THAT THE TR DISTRICT IS NOT INTENDED TO FACILITATE A MARKEDLY DIFFERENT VISION FOR THE CORRIDOR.
I THINK THE NEXT GRAPHIC WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT ON THE LEFT IS A BREAKDOWN OF HOW EXISTING USES IN THE CORRIDOR UNDER THEIR EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS ARE CLASSIFIED, WHETHER THAT'S PERMITTED SPECIAL PERMIT OR NONCONFORMING ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE USES THAT WOULD EITHER BE PERMITTED SPECIAL PERMIT OR NON PERMITTED IN THE TR DISTRICT.
AND WHAT'S NOTEWORTHY HERE IS THAT THERE'S REALLY, UH, MINIMAL DIFFERENCES WHERE THE DIFFERENCES DO COME IN.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE INTENT SHOWS THAT THE INTENT OF THE TR DISTRICT IS TO ALLOW FOR LESS INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES, BUT TO ALSO PROVIDE A BROADER RANGE OF COMPATIBLE USES THAN OTHERWISE IS ALLOWED.
SO WE SEE, UH, REMOVAL OF LUMBER AND BUILDING EQUIPMENT.
THESE ARE THINGS IN THE LI DISTRICT WHOLESALE WAREHOUSING ESTABLISHMENT ALLOWED IN BOTH THE ALLY AND THE UR DISTRICT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
THESE ARE USES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE CA DISTRICT, LARGELY BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA, UM, AND TO CREATE THE VISION THAT THAT DISTRICT SOUGHT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, SIMILAR STRATEGY HERE.
UH, CARS, GAS STATION AND CAR WASH ARE, THEY'RE, THEY EXIST IN THE CORRIDOR.
THEY WOULD REMAIN AS NON-CONFORMING USES.
THE WAY THE TR DISTRICT IS STRUCTURED IS WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR NEW GAS STATIONS IN CAR WASHES.
SO IN TERMS OF A BROADER RANGE OF USES, YOU NOW SEE, UH, TWO PERMITTED USES THAT ARE ADDED TO THE MIX, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE CA DISTRICT WOULD ALSO BE A PERMITTED USE HERE IN THE TR DISTRICT.
UH, ADULT DAYCARE WAS NOT, UH, SPECIFIED IN MANY OF THE ZONES ALONG ROUTE ONE 19, AND WE KNOW THAT'S A VIABLE USE THAT COULD FILL A VACANCY.
SO THAT'S BEEN ADDED AS A PERMITTED USE.
AND THEN, UM, I KNOW MATT BRITTON, UH, AUTHORED THE PRIVATE EVENT SPACE.
WE GET OFTEN CALLS ABOUT THESE TYPE OF USES, UM, WHICH DON'T NECESSARILY FIT INTO, UH, PRIVATE INDOOR REC.
AND, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE NOT QUITE, UH, LIKE WEDDING HALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, CAREFUL CONSIDERATION WAS GIVEN TO THAT IN, IN THAT DRAFTING.
BUT THAT IS A USE THAT WE FEEL WE GET CALLS ON AND, UM, WE GIVE CLARITY TO THE MARKET THERE.
UM, CHILD DAYCARE ALSO IS, WOULD BE A SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, ALONG THE TR DISTRICT FROM A LOT IN BULK PERSPECTIVE.
THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED FOR THE T DISTRICT, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S COMPARABLE TO THE CA AND THE DS DISTRICT.
WHAT I WANNA CLOSE WITH IS SOME PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE THOUGHT, UH, HARD ABOUT IN THE FORMULATION OF THE TR DISTRICT, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, TOOK A HARD LOOK AT IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM EITHER PROPERTY OWNERS OR UH, BOARD MEMBERS.
THE FIRST IS AN OBSERVATION THAT THE CA DISTRICT EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS MIXED
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USE BUILDINGS THAT CONTAIN BOTH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING.SO IT'S SORT OF COUNTERINTUITIVE.
THE CA DISTRICT, THE CENTRAL AVENUE MIXED USE DISTRICT DOES NOT ALLOW A BUILDING THAT CONTAINS BOTH MIXED USE, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, AND NON-RESIDENTIAL.
YOU WOULD THINK, HEY, MIXED USE DISTRICT, IT SHOULD INCLUDE THAT, UM, MAKES BETTER, IT DOES NOT, IT DOES INCLUDE OF COURSE, MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
IT INCLUDES THOSE USES JUST THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATED.
SO THERE WAS AN ASTUTE OBSERVATION BY, UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT, UH, NOTED THAT FOR THE CA DISTRICT AND ASKED THE QUESTION FOR THE CA DISTRICT.
WELL, THEIR COMMENT WAS, THAT'S CERTAINLY A TRIED AND TRUE FORM OF USE AND CONTRIBUTES TO WALKABILITY.
AND, UM, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, SHOULD, SHOULD THAT BE A CONSIDERATION FOR REMOVING THAT PROHIBITION IN THE CA DISTRICT? AND THAT'S A GOOD CONSIDERATION TO THINK ABOUT.
AND THINKING ABOUT THE TR DISTRICT, WE ESSENTIALLY MIMICKED A LOT OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE CA DISTRICT SO THAT PROHIBITION CARRIES OVER TO THE TR DISTRICT.
SO IF FACTUALLY, I WANT YOU TO BE VERY AWARE OF THAT.
UM, SO THE OBSERVATION IS A GOOD ONE, AND THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO THINK ABOUT IT.
AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS, UH, THAT WE EMPLOYED HERE IS THAT A WHOLESALE REMOVAL OF THAT PROHIBITION COULD MAKE SENSE IN SOME INTERSECTIONS OR SOME SEGMENTS OF BLOCKS OF THE CORRIDOR.
UM, BUT IF A WHOLESALE, UH, REMOVAL OF THAT PROHIBITION HAPPENED, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY LEAD TO A COHESIVELY PLANNED CORRIDOR.
UM, FOUR CORNERS ACTUALLY DOES STRATEGICALLY PLAN FOR THAT FORM OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT WAS DONE BASED ON, UH, OUTREACH TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, UM, AND DONE THROUGH A STRATEGIC PLAN TO REALLY HONE IN ON WHAT THE EXPANSE OF THE BOUNDARIES SHOULD BE, WHAT ARE APPROPRIATE HEIGHTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO, UH, I DO AGREE WITH THE, THE OBSERVATION THAT, UM, MIXED USE IS, IS A, IS A VIABLE FORM.
UH, I DO THINK THAT IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE A BROADER CONVERSATION WITH WHATEVER CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS, COMMUNITY LEADERS AND RESIDENTS LIVE IN THOSE AREAS ON WHETHER IT'S THE TR DISTRICT CA, UM, NINE A AND I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE BROADER CONTEXTS OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
AND I DO REMIND, UH, EVERYONE HERE THAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ON THE CUSP OF ITS 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
UM, SO, UH, I THINK THERE COULD BE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR MIXED USE LIKE FOUR CORNERS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, BUT I DO THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT, UH, THE CHAPTER 2 85 UPDATES ARE NOT THE RIGHT VEHICLE, IS, IS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS.
WAS THAT SPECIFICALLY FIRST FLOOR BUSINESS AND OFFICE OR, AND SECOND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL OR JUST OPEN-ENDED AS FAR AS A MIXED USE IN THE SAME BUILDING? I, I THINK, UM, THE, THE MORE STANDARD NON-RESIDENTIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR WITH, UH, THE PROTOTYPICAL MULTI-FAMILY ABOVE WAS THE, UM, FORM THAT WAS ENVISIONED AND THOUGHT, UH, PRUDENT FOR CA UM, YEAH, THAT'S TYPICAL OF MIXED USE PROPERTY IN NEW YORK CITY, FOR INSTANCE.
WHERE IT'S GROUND FLOOR, RIGHT.
COMMERCIAL AND UPPER FLOORS, A RESIDENTIAL ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
A LOT OF THE MAIN STREET DEVELOPMENT IN THE RIVER TOWNS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GOOD URBAN FORM.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, CENTRAL AVENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT YOUR PROTOTYPICAL MAIN STREET, IT'S WIDER.
UM, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE, THE, THE REGULATIONS THAT THE CA DISTRICT HAVE IN THE PRIOR DISTRICTS HAVE ALLOWED THAT DISTRICT TO EVOLVE.
UH, IT DOES HAVE ITS OWN CHARACTER AND THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE.
UM, IT'S NOT YOUR PROTOTYPICAL, UH, ANYWHERE.
USA, UM, SURE, UH, SHOPPING, YOU KNOW, CORRIDOR, IF YOU WILL.
IT HAS, ITS, IT'S, UM, MANY VIRTUES AND I THINK LIKE SOMETHING LIKE FOUR CORNERS IS A APPROPRIATE STRATEGIC REDEVELOPMENT TO DIFFERENTIATE ON A KEY CORNER.
UM, BUT YEAH, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, NOT PRUDENT TO JUST ALLOW THE MARKET TO BRING THAT ANYWHERE ALONG THE QUARTER.
UM, YOU MIGHT GET AN YEAH, YOU MIGHT GET AN UNINTENDED RESULT IN, IN SOME RESPECTS.
I, I WOULD WELCOME CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION AS WE, UH, EXPLORE REVISITING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THE CA DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE INTERSECTION OF, YOU KNOW, MOUNT JOY AND CENTRAL AVENUE COULD BE THE PERFECT INTERSECTION TO CONSIDER THAT SORT, THAT SORT OF MIXED USE YES.
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UM, AND YEAH, ONE, ONE OF THE GOALS IS IS, YOU KNOW, BE GREAT TO WORK TOGETHER AND WORK WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE CLOSE TO GETTING, UH, 2 85 COMPLETE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.UH, FOUR CORNERS IS RUNNING ON, UH, A VERY GOOD TRACK, AND IT COULD BE IN THE SAME TIMEFRAME.
AND IT JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE IT, IT, IT LENDS ITSELF TO A NATURAL EVOLUTION TO REALLY, UH, HIT THE GROUND RUNNING IN 2027, PERHAPS WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
AND, UM, WE WILL BE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THAT OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I KEEP SAYING THIS, UH, OUR EXISTING COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S BIG
THE UPDATE IS NOT A, HEY, LET'S, ALRIGHT, LET'S TOSS THAT OUT AND START OVER.
AND, YOU KNOW, 90 TO 95% OF THE POLICIES AND, AND, AND CONCEPTS IN THE COMP PLAN ARE TIMELESS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE THINGS THAT GREENBERG RESIDENTS APPRECIATE.
UM, SO REALLY WE CAN GET STRATEGIC AND THINK ABOUT LIKE, PERHAPS THE AREA YOU MENTIONED OR SOME OF THE OTHER IDEAS THAT ARE ENVISIONED WITH MIXED USE.
SO I JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, AND THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT.
SO ANOTHER INQUIRY WAS MADE BY A PROPERTY OWNER WITH RESPECT TO THE TR DISTRICT, AND SPECIFICALLY THEY INQUIRED WHY THE BOUNDARIES DO NOT EXTEND WEST TO THE NORWOOD ROAD OVERPASS, WHERE THE IB DISTRICT IS.
AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE SHOW THE GRAPHIC IN THE SAME LOCATION, BUT THE, UM, IMAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT SAME PAGE.
AND THE PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS THAT I BELIEVE VALIDATE, RETAINING THE IB DISTRICT ARE THE AVERAGE LOT DEPTHS YOU CAN SEE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE TR DISTRICT PROPOSED LOTS.
BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I JUST WANNA GET US ORIENTED.
SO MAYBE THE GREEN, I SHOULD HAVE USED THE DARKER GREEN, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TR HOPEFULLY IT POPS ENOUGH.
UH, THE INQUIRY IS THAT IB, UH, DISTRICT SEGMENT.
SO, UH, MATT, IF YOU COULD RUN YOUR CURSOR ALONG ONE 19.
SO THE OBSERVATION WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY DID, WHY DID THAT RED LINE CUT UP, UH, THERE WHERE THE, THE CAR DEALERSHIPS ARE, UM, NORTH OF YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
AND WHY DID IT NOT EXTEND, AT LEAST FOR THE FRONTING PROPERTIES, UH, EXTENDING ALL THE WAY TO THE GAS STATION ON NORWOOD ROAD.
SO DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RAM? YEAH, THE, AND THE HOSPITAL, THE RAM UP TO YES, YES.
IT'S LIKE AN ISLAND STORE THERE AND THEN IT GOES UP.
SO MATT, IF YOU JUST ZOOM OUT JUST A TAD.
UM, SO THE POINT I MADE ABOUT THE LOT DEPTHS, IF, IF GREAT, IF YOU LOOK, UH, ON AVERAGE THE LOT DEPTHS, UH, IN THE GREEN, UH, LET'S SAY NORTH ON ONE 19, UH, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, BUT, UM, I WOULD POSE THAT, THAT THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER A HUNDRED FEET, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 200 FEET.
SO IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT SAME BAND GOING ACROSS THE IB, WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU START RUNNING INTO, UH, SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT ARE TO THE REAR OF SOME OF THOSE.
SO, UM, IF YOU JUST KIND OF LIKE USE THAT STRATEGY TO STAY CONSISTENT, I I, I THINK YOU WOULD, UM, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE LOGICAL NECESSARILY.
AND THEN CONVERSELY TO THAT, IF YOU JUST FOCUSED ON THE PROPERTIES THAT TOUCH ON ONE 19, YOU REALLY HAVE A LOT OF POSTAGE STAMP LOTS THAT, UM, WHILE I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT THERE'S NOT SOME OF THAT ELSEWHERE IN THE PROPOSED TR YOU REALLY HAVE A WHOLE BAND OF OF LOTS THAT ARE JUST NOT DEEP AND THEY'RE RATHER SMALL.
UM, THEY'RE RATHER SMALL LOTS.
SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN CONSIDERATIONS WHY THE TR DISTRICT, UH, IS, IS DEPLOYED WHERE YOU SEE IT ON THE MAP THERE, UH, LONGER TERM PLANNING WITH CONSIDERATION OF HOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD RELATES TO YOSEMITE PARK, WHICH IS, UH, RIGHT BEHIND IT NORTH OF THOSE AREAS.
AND POTENTIALLY ENVISION AS PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, COULD LEAD TO A VISION THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN A TR DISTRICT ON THOSE FRONTING PROPERTIES WITH PERHAPS SOME ONE FAMILY DISTRICT TO THE REAR, UM, PROPOSED LAYOUT.
AND THE, SO YEAH, I, I, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT COULD BE DONE THERE.
I THINK THE PARK'S A KEY ASSET THERE.
UM, THERE ARE BUS STOPS, YOU KNOW, MAY MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOME SORT OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF NODAL DEVELOPMENT THAT, UM, SIMPLY THE TR DISTRICT, UH, WOULDN'T BE THE RIGHT DISTRICT TO DO THERE.
SO, UM, THAT'S MY COMMENT THERE.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, I AM PLEASED TO NOTE THAT, UH, WE, WE'VE HEARD BACK FROM WESTCHESTER COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, WHICH THE TOWN ALWAYS DOES, ANYTIME THE TOWN SENDS, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER THE COUNTY JURISDICTION BY VIRTUE OF BEING CLOSE TO THE BORDER OF ANOTHER COMMUNITY, OR, UH, LAND USE
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CHANGES LIKE THIS, THE COUNTY WESTCHESTER COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S ALWAYS INVOLVED.SO I KNOW THE STAFF DISTRIBUTED THEIR COMMENTS.
I'M PLEASED TO NOTE THAT THEY WERE, UM, GENERALLY FAVORABLE TOWARDS A LOT OF THE EFFORTS WE'RE DOING HERE.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING, THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS THAT COMPLETE STREET REFERENCES BE ADDED TO THE TR DISTRICT IN A SIMILAR MANNER AS WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSED IN THE CA DISTRICT.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS A GOOD OBSERVATION.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO FOLLOW THAT.
AND JUST A QUICK NOTE, COMPLETE STREETS IS JUST THAT PHILOSOPHY OF ENVISIONING THE ROADWAY IS NOT JUST FOR, UH, THE SINGLE OCCUPANT VEHICLE OR, UM, UH, DELIVERY DELIVERY VEHICLES, BUT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN, FOR THE, THE PERSON THAT'S, UM, WALKING TO A BUS STOP.
SO IT'S ENVISIONING THAT ROAD FOR ALL USERS AND, UM, COMPLETE STREETS IS CERTAINLY, UH, A TERM THAT WE'RE ADDING TO CHAPTER 2 85.
AND, UM, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO, UM, HAVE REFERENCES TO THE TR DISTRICT.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT I HAD PREPARED TONIGHT.
I'M HAPPY TO STICK AROUND AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CHAT MORE ABOUT THIS.
AND SINCE WE HAVE TIME, UM, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS, UH, 2 85 ZONING MAP BASED, UH, WE CAN DO IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER DUQUESNE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? UM, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE, UM, COMPLETE STREETS BEING ADDED TO THE TR DISTRICT.
UM, MAYBE WE CAN THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS EXPANDING IT TO OTHER DISTRICTS, UM, AS WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS NOW WHO ARE MOVING FROM THE CITY, AND A LOT OF COMMENTS, UM, TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE DO HAVE PLACES LIKE THE TR DISTRICT ON THE BUS LINE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS SAFE.
YEAH, IT, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD EXTEND THAT FROM, UH, THE TARRYTOWN SECTION, THE BIKE LANE WE TALKED ABOUT.
AND WE SHOULD SHARE THE, UH, ROUTE ONE 19 PLAN.
SO IT HAS, UH, A VISION FOR, UH, ALL THE WAY FROM BROADWAY IN TARRYTOWN, ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS, RIGHT? YEAH.
CERTAINLY NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DIFFERENT VARIATION, BUT, UM, I DO, YES, WE TALK, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE SPAN, THE FIRST SEGMENT, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT THERE.
KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED, HOPEFULLY U-S-D-O-T AWARDS, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THAT FUNDING.
UM, I DID HAVE THREE OTHER TWO AND A HALF OTHER, UH, OBSERVATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS.
SO I GUESS ON UNDER THE PREMISE THAT THE TR DISTRICT SORT OF OPERATES, UH, A SIMILAR FUNCTION AS THE CA DISTRICT, UM, CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CA DISTRICT, THIS IS 2 85, 38, SECTION 10, UM, WHERE AT LEAST 50 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUBSECTION E OF THIS SECTION, UP TO 10% OF THE PARKING SPACES MAY BE DESIGNATED AND RESERVED FOR COMPACT CARS.
UM, SO I THINK IT'D BE WORTH CONSIDERING IF WE ALSO WANNA PERMIT THAT COMPACT CAR, UM, PERMISSION WITHIN THE DR DISTRICT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, TIER TWO BESTS AND TIER THREE SOLAR ENERGY IS PERMITTED IN THE CA DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO I, I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING IF THOSE TWO USES ARE ALSO, UM, UH, MAKES SENSE TO INCLUDE IN THE TR DISTRICT, ACCEPTABLE IN THE TR DISTRICT.
COULD YOU REPEAT THE FIRST SECTION THAT YOU MENTIONED? 38, UH, 2 85, 38.
SECTION 10, WHICH IS RELATED TO COMPACT CARS.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UM, I GUESS WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE HERE WITH US, UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CHATTER IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME TIME AGO THE, THE PLANNING BOARD REDUCED ITS SIZE TO, UH, FIVE VOTING MEMBERS WITH TWO ALTERNATES.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING OUT ANOTHER NOTICE TO ENCOURAGE INTERESTED RESIDENTS, UM, TO, TO EXPRESS THEIR INTEREST TO YOU, UM, WITH OUR HOPE OF, UH, EXPANDING THE BOARD BACK TO SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS, UM, HOPEFULLY SOMETIME BY JUNE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA SHARE TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT? UH, NO.
UH, I APPRECIATE YOU ALERTING EVERYONE TO THAT.
AND, UH, WE DO FEEL THAT THE E-BLAST IS IMMINENT, UM, PERHAPS BEFORE THE WEEKEND, THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.
AND ONCE IT'S DONE, WE'LL, WE'LL SHARE IT BROADLY, UM, SHARE IT WITH YOUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, WE'LL GET IT TO CIVIC ASSOCIATION LEADERS AND GET THE WORD OUT THERE.
BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR
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TAKEAWAYS IS THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, THE SUCCESS THAT THAT RESULTED IN, WHICH IS, UM, ALL THESE GREAT NEW ADDITIONS TO THE BOARD.SO, UH, AB ABSOLUTELY COULD GET TWO MEMBERS THAT IN SHAPE OR TWO, TWO GREAT ALTERNATE MEMBERS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO PROMOTE HERE IN THE, IN THE SHORT FUTURE AND BRING ON TWO NEW ALTERNATES TO, UM, PROVIDE EVEN MORE PERSPECTIVE, UH, AND LIVED EXPERIENCE TO BOARD.
UH, JUST A COUPLE MORE THINGS.
UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, AFTER THE MEETING, LIKE TONIGHT, WE WANNA START DEVELOPING SOME CONCEPTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION SO THAT, UM, REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE GONNA START PUTTING THE BUILDING BLOCKS IN THERE, UH, FOR THINGS THAT WE DISCUSS, UM, ON A NIGHT LIKE TONIGHT, SO THAT YOU CAN PERUSE THEM OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING IN YOUR PACKAGES, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL
I'M ALWAYS A BIG PROPONENT OF WHEN IT'S FRESH, LET'S KEEP THINKING ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, WE'LL DO THAT WORK FOR YOU AND YOU JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW, UM, IF YOU FEEL THAT IT'S HITTING THE MARK, UH, AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS AND I, I COULD SEE THESE RESULTING IN CHANGES AS WELL.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 8:52 PM SO MOVED.