* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] UH, WELCOME TARA [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ] TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION. UH, WE CANCELED YESTERDAY'S WORK SESSION BECAUSE OF THE, UH, BAD WEATHER. SO WE'RE HAVING AN ABBREVIATED WORK SESSION, UM, UH, TODAY. AND THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, AGENDA REVIEW. UM, WE WERE GONNA DISCUSS, UH, THE NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE SIDEWALK. AND FRANK MODO, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS SENT, UM, AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD A COUPLE MINUTES AGO, UM, SAYING THAT, UH, UH, WE SHOULDN'T DISCUSS IT. AND HE'S GONNA LOOK FOR OTHER WAYS TO, UM, UH, MANAGE THE, UH, THE CONTINUING SIDEWALK OF, UH, DOING IT LESS EXPENSIVELY. SO I THINK THAT'S POSITIVE. WE NEED A COPY SO THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE PACKAGE. WE'RE OKAY. FULL PACKAGE. A FULL PACKAGE. OH, GREAT. SO NOW WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA. ARE WE DOING REPORTS? UM, TONIGHT. TONIGHT? OH, GOD, NO. I DIDN'T PREPARE. NO. . I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH THAT WE COULD TALK. I MEAN, JUST NO, WE CAN JUST, WE COULD DISCUSS. SO, BUT ARE WE, ARE WE, BECAUSE OF WE, WE DID NOT, SINCE WE JUST DID A AGENDA REVIEW. NOW WE, WE DIDN'T PREPARE TO SAY WE WERE GONNA DO THAT. OKAY. WELL I SAW THAT IT WAS ON HERE, SO I PREPPED. OKAY. BUT I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY USE THAT TIME. WELL, IT SAYS ANNOUNCEMENTS, SO WE COULD USE THAT AS ANNOUNCEMENTS AS WELL. OKAY. UH, BY THE WAY, THIS AGENDA HAS A RECORD NUMBER OF RESOLUTIONS. YES. WAIT, I DID NOTICE THAT 50 50 50 RESOLUTIONS. IT WAS A MARATHON SINCE SATURDAY MORNING UNTIL TODAY. YES. THAT LAST NIGHT. 50 RESOLUTIONS. OKAY. THANKS FRANCIS. AND HOLLY. HOLLY. HOLLY. YEAH. HOLLY. SO FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BEST PILOT PROGRAM, ARE WE, DO WE NEED ANY MORE CLARITY ON THAT? THAT WAS THE ONE CONTINUED, TWO MEETINGS AGO. MM-HMM . THAT JUST INVOLVED. UM, ONE INDIVIDUAL WAS HERE WHO CLAIMED HE FELT IT WAS SUB A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE LAW BECAUSE WE TOOK THE PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENTS OUT. UM, I DID NOT AGREE WITH THAT. HOWEVER, JUST TO SATISFY THAT PERSON'S CONCERN, WE'VE RE-LISTED IT AND PUT IT BACK ON TODAY, AND IT REMAINS SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME AS LAST TIME. OKAY. UM, I THINK IT IS THE SAME AS LAST TIME. I THINK IT IS THE LAST, THE SAME AS LAST TIME WE JUST CHANGED THE NOTICE. NO, WE JUST TOOK, THERE WAS A, THERE WERE TWO CLAUSES THAT SAID THE ASSESSOR WOULD NEGOTIATE BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE AMOUNT. THERE WAS NO PERCENTAGE AMOUNT WRITTEN IN. SO REMOVING THOSE PARAGRAPHS TO ME WAS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CLAUSE. THE GENTLEMAN WAS HERE, FELT IT WAS, WE RENO IT, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. IF YOU WANTED AN UPDATE ON THAT PILOT, UM, NEGOTIATION, THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ASSESSOR TO ANSWER. I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT. OKAY. UH, FOR TB ONE ABOUT THE LAW OFFICES OF VINCENT TOOMEY, UM, IS HE CONTINUING TO DO ANY WORK ON THAT ETHICS REPRESENTATION? NO. THAT CASE IS LONG DONE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CASES, IS HE WORKING ON NOW? UH, HE IS WORKING ON, UH, EMPLOYMENT ISSUES AND POLICE ISSUES. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE IN HOUSE? BECAUSE IF IT'S 400,000, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SAVED, SAVED MONEY BY JUST HAVING SOMEBODY DO LABOR, LABOR ACCOUNT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SPECIALIZED NUANCES THAT SOMETIMES WE JUST CAN'T DO IN-HOUSE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AMOUNT OF CASES WE HAVE. ALSO, THAT 400,000, I BELIEVE WOULD BE FOR THE PAST ALMOST THREE YEARS. I'D HAVE TO GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER ON THAT. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT'S JUST THIS YEAR. I WONDER IF MAYBE THE AGENDA COULD REFLECT THAT BECAUSE IT LOOKS, UH, YOU KNOW, OH, THE FIRST ONE IT SAYS FROM, UH, 2024. IT DOES. YES. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE, ON THE AGENDA WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, UH, THIS 400,000 IN TOTAL, UH, FROM 2000, YOU KNOW, 24, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. IF THE BOARD PROBLEM WOULD LIKE TO AMEND AND ADD THAT TO THE HEADING MM-HMM . IS IT 2024? YES. AND AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN USING THIS FIRM FOR 30 PLUS YEARS IN THE PAST, FOR WHATEVER REASON, RESOLUTIONS WERE NOT PUT ON. I FELT THAT WAS NOT, UM, PROPER PRACTICE AND THAT IT NEEDED TO BE A VOTE OF THE TOWN BOARD. [00:05:03] YOU KNOW, IS IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD SORT OF TIGHTEN UP THE USE OF OUTSIDE COUNCIL? YOU KNOW, AND IS THERE A WAY OF LIKE CONTROLLING THE, I'M LOOKING AT THE 2027 BUDGET AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING, YOU KNOW, THESE OUTSIDE COUNCILS AND OUTSIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTORS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT. THESE ARE BIG DOLLAR AMOUNTS. AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY, THERE'S WAYS WE COULD CUT, CUT SOME OF THESE COSTS. UM, YOU KNOW, DOWN, YES, WE HAVE. SO I'VE CUT THE COSTS DOWN FROM PREVIOUS YEARS ALREADY, AND I CONTINUE TO TRY TO DO SO. WE ALSO NOW HAVE PART-TIME IN-HOUSE COUNSEL WHO COULD, THE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY WHO COULD HANDLE SOME MORE MATTERS AND HOPEFULLY SAVE US ADDITIONAL MONEY AND OUTSIDE COSTS. UM, AS WE'VE STATED, I'LL BE DO DOING THE NEXT ROUND OF NEGOTIATIONS FOR ALL OF THE UNIONS. MM-HMM . SO THAT WILL SAVE ADDITIONAL MEASURES THAT WILL SAVE A LOT. YEAH. AND THE ONE THAT IS OUTSIDE REALLY OUR CONTROLLER TO EDGEMONT INCORPORATION FIGURES, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE CASE WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS BEING TREATED LATE IN EVERY OTHER MUNICIPALITY WITHIN THE STATE. UH, WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THAT WE NEEDED SPECIALIZED COUNSEL FOR THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OUR CONTROL. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON TV ONE? YEAH. WHAT'S THE QUESTION? IS THIS THE RESOLUTION CONTINUE THAT WAS INCLUDED THE BOARD OF ETHICS. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISSING RESOLUTIONS? THEY'RE NOT, THERE ARE NO MISSING RESOLUTIONS. WASN'T THE AMOUNT AT THAT TIME, 250,000? YES. PEOPLE INCORRECTLY INCLUDED FIGURES FROM OTHER CASES AND ASSUMED IT WAS ALL FOR THAT CASE AND THAT WAS NOT ACCURATE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT $250,000 WAS NOT SPENT ON THAT CASE. WASN'T IT ABOUT 150? IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT THAT. I COULD GET AN EXACT FIGURE 20 FOR THE BOARD OF ETHICS. ANYTHING ABOVE THAT ALWAYS WAS THE MYSTERY. YEAH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN, SUPERVISOR AND I AGREE, THAT WAS A HUGE WASTE OF MONEY. UNFORTUNATELY, MY PAPERS, WHICH WOULD'VE SHOULD HAVE SUPPORTED A DISMISSAL AT THE VERY FIRST MEETING, UH, WAS NOT GRANTED. AND THE COMPLAINANTS ASKED THAT I BE STRICKEN FROM REPRESENTING THE TOWN BOARD. SO WE KIND OF HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO SPEND THAT MONEY. WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS, IF WE AGREE THAT ROUGHLY $120,000 NOT CONTESTING THAT NOW IT WAS SPENT ON THE BOARD OF ETHICS ISSUES. HOW DID IT GET TO BE 400,000? WHERE WERE THOSE RESOLUTIONS? 'CAUSE THE ONLY PUBLIC ONES WERE TWO 50. OKAY. SO I'LL READ THE RESOLUTION. YEAH. THEY'RE ALL ITEMIZED ON A T 5TH OF JUNE 12, 20, 24. A T 1ST OF OCTOBER 9, 20, 24 A T EIGHT OF 2 26, 25 A T SEVEN OF 5 14, 25 25 TB TWO OF 9, 10 25 TB ONE OF 3, 11 26. UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE ELSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. BE MORE OPEN GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN VOTE ON IT EVERY TIME. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THESE RESOLUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THOSE NUMBERS ADD UP AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY APPEARED ON AN AGENDA. SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TO TAKE TONIGHT'S RESOLUTION AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT EACH OF THE DATES THAT WE PUT ON THERE AND HOW MUCH WAS SPENT. AND IT'LL ADD UP TO $400,000, INCLUDING THE 50,000 FROM TONIGHT. OKAY. UM, RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD, OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, ALTHOUGH, I'M SORRY. LET'S SEE. I'M NOT THERE. UM, IN TERMS OF THE MODERATOR FOR THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, UM, I, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF, UH, THE TOWN BOARD COULD COME UP WITH A POLICY JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, NO OPINIONS ARE GONNA BE, UM, PERMITTED, YOU KNOW, BY ANYBODY, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE ON, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UH, IF YOU WANT, WE COULD HAVE, UM, AN OPINION LINK AND WE COULD ALSO, UH, OPEN IT UP FOR, TO THE COMMUNITY TO ALSO COMMENT. SO THIS WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT ANY ISSUE THAT THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT, THEY CAN TURN IT INTO SOCIAL. THAT'S FOR OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. YEAH. IT COULD BE BE A LINK TO SOCIAL MEDIA. THOSE EXIST NEED TO WINK TO SOCIAL MEDIA ON OUR TOWN BOARD WEBSITE. BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID, IT WAS TOTALLY MISUSED BEFORE THE PRIMARY. AND I, I FEEL THAT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORTH, IT'S MIS MISUSED NOW. YEAH. YOU KEEP SAYING THERE'S A NO BIG CONTRACT. THAT'S YOUR OPINION. I, I, THE, THE, YOU KEEP TOING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I'VE BEEN PUTTING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. NO, YOU PUT IT OUT ON THE GB LIST, WHICH IS NOT SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT IS THE TOWN'S LIST. OKAY. SO THAT YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR [00:10:01] OPINION ON, I MEAN, YOU WANNA BE FAIR. THAT'S FAIR. I HAVEN'T SAID RIGHT. I, BUT LEMME YOU SEE SAYING NO BID. WE, WE HAD A WHOLE, WE HAD A WHOLE WORK SESSION AS TO WHY IT IS NOT NO BID. OKAY. ANYONE WHO WAS PART OF THAT UNDERSTOOD. IT WAS A VERY LINEAR DISCUSSION. THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, BACKUP AS TO WHY IT'S AN EMERGENCY, ALL THOSE THINGS. OKAY. SO THEN TO CONTINUE TO STATE YOUR OPINION THAT IT'S A NO BID ON THE GB LIST IS MISUSE OF THAT LIST. I MEAN, NO, I DON'T THINK, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF US SHOULD BE STATING OUR OPINION ON THE GB LIST. CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THEN? CAN, DO YOU WANNA MAKE IT A BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED CLAUSE AND ADD THAT TO THE RESOLUTION? BUT WHO'S GONNA DECIDE WHAT THE OPINION IS? BECAUSE WHEN I PUT SOMETHING UP, I GENERALLY PUT CITATIONS TO IT, OR A LINK TO ITS OR A FACT. IT'S NOT AN OPINION. IT'S BACKED UP BY FACT. IT'S NOT AN OPINION. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN OPINION THAT $34 MILLION OF UNCOLLECTED TAXES, THAT'S NOT. BUT COME ON, LET'S, LET'S CUT, CUT OUT. SO NOW YOU SAY THAT'S AN OPINION, BUT IT'S A FACT. IT'S DOCUMENTED. LET, LET'S, LET'S SAY YOU SAY THERE'S NO BIDS. LET ME ASK A QUESTION. WHO'S 12 REPORTER WRITES THAT THERE'S A NO BID BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SEE ON YOU BY, BY YOU AND REPEATS IT LIKE AS IF THAT'S THE REPORTER'S OPINION THAT THERE'S NO BID. THAT'S HOW IN HOW IN UM, AFFIRMATION, IT'S LIKE A VIRUS THAT YOU SPREAD BECAUSE YOU MAKE IT APPEAR LIKE IT'S A FACT WHEN IT'S NOT. AND YOU BRING UP THAT YOU DON'T WANT OPINIONS, BUT THAT'S YOUR OPINION. IT'S NOT SHARED BY THE TOWN CONTROLLER, IT'S NOT SHARED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY. IT'S NOT SHARED BY THE REST OF THE BOARD. BUT YOU PUT IT OUT THERE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. EVEN SOMETHING YOU WROTE TODAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I THINK YOU HAD FIVE TIMES YOU MENTIONED NO BID. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT CORRECT BECAUSE YOU REPEAT IT. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE ISSUE IS DO WE WANNA HAVE A POLICY THAT NOBODY COULD DISCUSS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, UM, ANY, UH, ISSUES FOR OR OR AGAINST IT? AND BASICALLY WE'LL ONLY USE THE WEBSITE AND BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE AGENDA WITH NO COMMENTS FROM ME OR ANYBODY ELSE. OR IF I HAVE A, A RECOMMENDATION ON, IN TERMS OF LEGISLATION, I WOULDN'T USE A TOWN WEBSITE FOR IT. UM, AND ANYBODY CAN'T, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT. WE COULD BASICALLY SAY WE'RE HAVING A, A THEATER YOUNG COMMU AT THE, UH, YOSEMITE PARK. THERE'S A SUMMER CONCERT. THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN OF DURING JUNETEENTH, WE'RE DOING THIS. UM, UH, WE'RE HAVING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE, WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT FACTUAL ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE. WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT, BUT NO, I'M JUST SAYING YOU TALK TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE OTHER THAN YOUR OPINIONS. AND THEN NOW YOU'RE ARGUING AGAINST TRANSPARENCY. OH, I'M JUST ASKING YOU. SO LET'S, NO, I JUST, THERE THERE'S AN INCONSISTENCY HERE AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT TO THAT. I'M JUST ASKING. SO I WOULD KNOW. I'LL DO WHATEVER EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WANTS. SO IF YOU BASICALLY, UM, WANNA SAY THE, THE POLICY OF THE TOWN IS TO ONLY USE, IT WILL TAKE OFF FROM THE WEBSITE. YOU'VE BEEN SAYING ACTUAL INFORMATION. WE'LL, WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR US, OPINIONS ARE NO, I'M JUST SAYING I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION, BUT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO THIS ALREADY. NO, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN, I'M NOT AGREEING TO SOMETHING THAT LIMITS US AND WHAT WE PUT ON THE GB LIST. THE TOWN'S, THE TOWN'S OFFICIAL SITE. AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAVE A WEBSITE THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S AN OFFICIAL TOWN FACEBOOK PAGE. AND THEN YOU POST ALL THE, YOUR OPINIONS ON THERE WHERE NONE OF US HAVE ACCESS TO THAT YET. PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT'S THE OFFICIAL PAGE. AND I LET, I'D BE WILLING TO BET THE NEWS 12 REPORTER WHO SAID IT'S A NO BIG CONTRACT. GOT IT. FROM WHAT HE BELIEVES TO BE THE OFFICIAL FACEBOOK PAGE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. WELL, THIS IS A NO BIG CONTRACT. IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE STATE LAW. I KNOW. LET'S NOT YOU KNOW'S OPINION RATHER THAN FACT. RIGHT. OKAY. I GUESS IT'S $5.1 MILLION. THAT'S, WE'RE, THAT'S NOT GOING OUT TO BID. AND THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY COUNTS. LET'S MOVE ON FOR THE GENDER REVIEW PIECE. ENOUGH. LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA REVIEW, PLEASE. WELL, LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA REVIEW. ALRIGHT. WE'RE NOT CD SEVEN GRANT CONTRACT. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON THAT AS AMENDED. IT'S MISSING TWO TERMS THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE IN CONTRACTS, WHICH IS ANY AMENDMENT OR EXTENSION OF A TERM SHOULD BE DONE VIA SUBSEQUENT TO A DUALLY ADOPTED RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD. AND ALSO ADDING LEGAL NOTICE TO MY OFFICE AND REMOVING A FEW DUPLICATIVE WORDS THAT ARE JUST NOT NECESSARY. RIGHT. SO HOW DID THAT GET PAST YOUR OFFICE? BECAUSE NEGOTIATIONS CONTINUED UNTIL TODAY. OH, . OKAY. OKAY. WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HELD OVER. UM, THANK YOU TO FIRST DEPUTY MAGNA FOR [00:15:01] OKAY. PUSHING THROUGH AND, AND GETTING TO A FINAL POINT HERE. YEAH, WE DID PUT, I THINK ON ONE OF THOSE, WE PUT ON THE RESOLVE LAWS FURTHER RESOLVE THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, SUBSEQUENT, UH, DULY ADOPTED RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT IN THE CONTRACT. OKAY. I DID NOT SEE THAT ON CD SEVEN. UH, UH, YES, IT WAS. YEAH, WE ADDED THAT. OKAY. WELL NOW IT'S IN THE CONTRACT ITSELF, WHICH IS BETTER PRACTICE. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK IT'S ON CD SIX. DID YOU SAY IT'S NOT IN CD SIX EITHER? LET ME TAKE A LOOK. YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING TRACK ALSO OF THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT. C CD SIX IS JUST AUTHORIZING A, A GRANT APPLICATION. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THANKS GARRETT. OKAY, LET ME, UH, FOR, LET ME JUST SEE. OH, OKAY. SO YOU, UH, UH, IN TERMS OF THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UM, I SEE THAT YOU, UM, CAME UP WITH YOUR ANALYSIS. WHERE ARE YOU? WHICH, WHICH ONE ARE YOU? TB FIVE ESTIMATED COST BETWEEN 24 AND $29 MILLION. I DID, I DID ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU HAD SENT ME, BUT I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION SPELLS IT OUT EVEN BETTER. IT'S SIX PAGES. IT'S THE LONGEST RESOLUTION I'VE EVER SEEN. AND IT HIGHLY DETAILS THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, WHY IT'S STILL CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY THAT WE WENT OUT TO BID. YOU'VE ALREADY EXTENDED THE CONTRACT ONCE. THIS IS ANOTHER EXTENSION, AND IT'S BASED ON THE COST AND MATERIALS THAT WERE IN THE INITIAL BID AND WHICH MURANO HAS FOLLOWED UP THROUGH 2025 AND 2026 TO SEEK, KEEP THAT SAME PRICING. RIGHT. ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED FACTUALLY, UH, READ THE RESOLUTION. COULD YOU, MAYBE, COULD WE, UM, I MEAN, SINCE THE VOTE IS TONIGHT, DO YOU WANNA JUST READ WHAT YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SENT THE TOWN BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WRITE, READ THE RESOLUTION OR READ NO, THE, THE MEMO TO THE TOWN BOARD RELATING TO, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT, UM, I, I, I CAN, I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION IS BETTER. I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT. THE RESOLUTION'S VERY THOROUGH. WHY WOULDN'T WE, WHY WOULDN'T WE REFER TO THE RESOLUTION? WELL, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE, UM, I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD JUST READ, SO WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE, PAUL, REGARDING THE, UM, WHAT PART OF THE RESOLUTION DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? MAYBE WE CAN HELP ASKING, ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. WE, I ASKED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, TO PROVIDE US WITH A, A MEMO, UH, AND A LEGAL OPINION. UH, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE? UH, I DIDN'T NEVER GET A CALL BACK. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY, THEY DID, UH, CALL AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WANTED, UH, YOU TO, UH, SPEAK TO THEIR LEGAL, UH, DEPARTMENT. AND I'M WONDERING, UM, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD REACH OUT TO THEM. UM, AND WE DIDN'T. UM, I, I DID REACH OUT, BUT WE NO, BUT WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE. I'M SORT OF WONDERING, UM, IF IT WOULD MAKE SE SENSE. AND THIS IS UP TO THE BOARD, UM, IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THE TONIGHT OR IF YOU WANT TO, UM, UH, VOTE ON IT, UM, AFTER JOE GETS TO SPEAK TO THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE BECAUSE THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE COULD LAND UP, UM, UH, FINDING THAT WE ARE VIOLATING THE LAW, UM, AFTER WE, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROVE THE NO BID, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT. AND YOU KNOW, PAUL, PAUL, PAUL, THERE'S THE NO BIG CONTRACT AGAIN. YEAH. IF YOU KEEP PROMOTING WRONG INFORMATION, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BELIEVE IT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, FINE. PAUL, DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT THE CONTROLLER DOESN'T GIVE OPINIONS ANYMORE? SO WHY WOULD THEY GIVE AN OPINION? THEY DID. BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY BASICALLY ASKED FOR, UM, ASKED, THE TOWN ASKED, SAID THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, UH, SHOULD REACH OUT TO THE LEGAL DI DIVISION. I I SPOKE TO YOU, I SHARED THAT WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, THAT EMAIL AND I DID, I BELIEVE IT'S SAID, COULD REACH OUT TO THE LEGAL RIGHT DIVISION. AND I, AND I DID. AND I, I HAVE REVIEWED PAST COMPTROLLER'S OPINIONS, WHICH ARE STILL, THEY'RE ADVISORY OPINIONS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOTATED IN LEGAL CASES THAT ARE STILL GOOD LAW. AND I BELIEVE, AS I'VE BEEN SAYING THE PAST FEW WEEKS, AND I DID IT, THE DISCUSSION A FEW, UM, LAST TIME WE HAD AN OPEN MEETING THAT I, I BELIEVE IT WENT OUT TO BID. I BELIEVE THIS IS PROPER AS LONG AS A RESOLUTION IS PASSED BY MAJORITY OF THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH IS PROPOSED FOR TONIGHT. OKAY. WELL, I'M SHOCKED THAT THE STATE CONTROLLER SAID TO YOU IT'S NOT IN WRITING, BUT YOU, YOU SAID THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT THEY WILL NOT DO AN AUDIT. THAT THE TOWN BOARD ACTUALLY SENT TO THE STATE CONTROLLER REGARDING THE, BECAUSE THAT WAS POLITICAL. IT WASN'T BASED ON, IT WAS A POLITICAL DIDN'T CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN. THEY DON'T GET INVOLVED IN CAMPAIGNS. DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. UH, SO I GUESS IT'S POLITICAL THAT THERE'S $34 MILLION, $29 MILLION AT THE TIME OF JANUARY, BUT NOW IT'S $34 MILLION OF UNCOLLECTED, UH, PROPERTY TAXES THAT ALL OF US HAVE TO PAY FOR. I GUESS THAT'S POLITICAL. [00:20:01] I GUESS IT'S POLITICAL THAT TICKETS, UH, WERE NOT, WERE NOT PROCESSED PROPERLY. I GUESS THAT'S POLITICAL FROM THE FORENSIC ORDER. I MEAN, I COULD GO DOWN THE LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE FORENSIC AUDIT THAT ARE NOT POLITICAL. THEY'RE FACTUAL. THEY WERE DONE BY AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY. YOU CAN CALL THEM POLITICAL AND IT WORKED FOR YOU, I GUESS IN THE RECENT RACE. UH, BUT THOSE ARE FACTS AND, AND, AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA UNDERSTAND HOW LITTLE FUND BALANCE, USABLE FUND BALANCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE. SO I AM SHOCKED, SAY IT AGAIN, THAT THE NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER REFUSES TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED IN THAT FORENSIC REPORT, BUT WHEN YOU CALL THEM, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN ACTING ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY DON'T GIVE OPINIONS ANYMORE, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. AND I THINK WE SHOULD ACTUALLY FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONTROLLERS, UH, UM, POSITION IS REGARDING THE FORENSIC AUDIT. AND HE STARTS SALE AVENUE AND CAME. SO I, WELL, NO, I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR THE TOWN ATTORNEY. SO IF WE VOTE ON TB FIVE, OKAY. AND THEN YOU DO SPEAK WITH THE NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER AND THERE IS SOME ISSUE, CAN'T WE, UH, REVISIT, RESCIND, WHATEVER THERE, THERE'S, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO, YOU CAN, DEPENDING ON WHEN THEY GET BACK TO ME, RIGHT? I WOULD NOT HAVE PERSONALLY REACHED OUT TO THEM BASED ON THE RESEARCH. I'VE, I'VE DONE UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT QUESTIONING OR RESEARCH, I'M JUST SAYING. AND THEIRS IS ADVISORY, RIGHT? IT IS ADVISORY, YES. IT WOULD BE ADVISORY ANYWAY. OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING, DO WE HAVE RECOURSE IF WE VOTE ON IT TONIGHT? IT DEPENDS HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO GET BACK. THEY'RE GONNA START THE WORK ONCE WE AUTHORIZE IT. SO THEY'RE DOING THE WORK. NOW, LET'S BE CLEAR, THIS WORK IS ONGOING. HOW CAN THEY DO THE WORK BEFORE WE AUTHORIZE IT? THERE'S NO WORK THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY THAT EXISTS OUT THERE. THE RESIDENTS OF EAST DALE AVENUE ARE FED UP WITH A SEWAGE. DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY A PUMP WENT DOWN AGAIN YESTERDAY DURING THE RAIN. ONE OF THOSE PUMPS THAT'S KEEPING SEWAGE FROM BACKING UP. DO YOU KNOW THAT BARBARA GRODEN IS TIRED OF CLEANING THE SEWAGE? AND BY THE WAY, WHEN I SAY SEWAGE, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT COMES FROM THE TOILETS IN THAT BUILDING. THIS IS NOT NICE STUFF. THIS STUFF STINKS. THEY'VE SPENT OVER $65,000 CLEANING THE SEWAGE OUT OF THEIR PARKING GARAGE AT SOME POINT. AT SOME POINT, THERE'S GOT TO BE RELIEF. AND THAT RELIEF IS, WAS FOUND BY FRANK MODO. WE'RE GO, IT'S A REPAIR. IT'S NOT GOING AROUND THE BUILDING. IF IT WENT AROUND THE BUILDING, WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT, SHOULD GO OUT TO BID. BUT IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE GOING AROUND THE BUILDING WOULD WORK BASED ON THE PITCH OF THE PIPES. BUT WE DO KNOW THAT IF THEY REPAIR IT IN PLACE, WHICH IS NOW FOUND TO BE VIABLE, THAT ONE BUILDING OWNERS DON'T HAVE TO PAY 65,000, UH, $600,000 TO RECONNECT THEIR LATERALS, WHICH IS THEY'D HAVE TO DO IF WE GO AROUND THE BUILDING. PRIVATE PROPERTY TOWN CAN'T DO THAT FOR THEM. THEY'LL PROBABLY SUE US TO DO THAT, TO GET REIMBURSED. BUT THE TOWN CAN'T DO THAT FOR THEM. AND WE CAN GET THIS THING DONE. THE HOPE IS TO GET IT DONE BY THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. ALL THESE DELAYS OVER, IT'S A NO BID. IT'S A NO BID. AND YOU HAVE NEWS 12 SAYING IT'S A NO BID CONTRACT, TOTALLY NO BASIS FOR THAT. BUT THEY'RE FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING UP ON THE WEBSITE. UM, WE MAY NOT MAKE THAT, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, BEFORE THE SCHOOL STARTS. AND THERE'S BUSES BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. AND THE BEST TIME TO MINIMIZE THOSE TRAFFIC IMPACTS IS DURING THESE SUMMER MONTHS. AND THAT'S WHY NOTHING HAS STOPPED THERE. KEEP MOVING FORWARD. AND WE NEED TO STOP THE POLITICS, STOP THE PANDERING, STOP THE BLUSTER ABOUT NO BIG CONTRACT, AND LET'S JUST GET THE JOB DONE. I, YOU KNOW, REALLY, I, I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHY, DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, THE FACTS. YOU, YOU SEEM TO BE PUSHING YOUR AGENDA, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT AGENDA IS, WHY YOU WOULD WANT THE PEOPLE AT A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE TO SUFFER ANYMORE, TO DRAW THE WHOLE THING OUT WHEN THERE IS A CONTRACT. IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONTRACT. AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN OPERATING, AND THAT'S WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD IS. AND WE [00:25:01] CONTINUALLY CORRECT THE MISINFORMATION THAT YOU PUT OUT THERE WITH THE CORRECT INFORMATION THAT'S BACKED UP BY DATA, BACKED UP BY A CONTRACT. IT WAS A CONTRACT THAT WAS ONE BY BID. AND THIS IS STILL A CONTINUATION OF THAT CONTRACT TO DEAL WITH A CONTINUING PROBLEM. BUT I I, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE DIGGING IN YOUR HEELS. LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM, FROM, UH, I DON'T KNOW, AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAYBE, OR WHATEVER, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUT, IT'S, IT'S FINE. ASK QUESTIONS, BUT THE ANSWERS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AND YOU STILL STICK TO YOUR STORY. YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S SO DIVISIVE. THAT'S NOT WHY, WHY WOULD YOU WANNA DO THAT? WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THE FACTS? BECAUSE BASICALLY I THINK IT'S ILLEGAL WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND I ALSO FEEL THAT WHAT'S ILLEGAL ABOUT A, A CONTRACT, WHAT'S ILLEGAL ABOUT A CONTINUATION OF A CONTRACT? I'LL INTERRUPT. I BELIEVE A TOWN ATTORNEY WHO GIVES US LEGAL ADVICE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS IS A, THIS IS GONNA COST POSSIBLY $5,165,000 MAYBE. UM, AS WHEN THEY START THE WORK, THEY'RE, IT'S GONNA BE MORE. UM, AND I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BE, THIS IS A, UH, A MAJOR REPAIR JOB THAT IS, IS GONNA BE STARTING IF THE BOARD APPROVES, UM, UH, THE, THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT. AND, UM, I FEEL THAT THERE'S OTHER, UM, CONTRACTORS WHO WOULD LIKE, WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING CHEAPER. I THINK WE COULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY POTENTIALLY. UM, I, UH, WE ALL GOT A LETTER FROM THAT WAS HAND DELIVERED TO THE TOWN YESTERDAY FROM THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY COUNCIL. THEY BELIEVE THAT, UM, THAT THERE'S, UM, THAT THIS IS A, THAT THIS COULD BE A VIOLATION OF, UM, COMPETITIVE BIDDING. THERE'S OTHER CONTRACTORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UM, BID. MAYBE THEY COULD DO IT CHEAPER. MAYBE THEY CAN'T. UM, IT'S ALSO A PRECEDENT, UM, YOU KNOW, SETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, ACTION. BECAUSE ONCE WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS, AND WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, OKAY, I'M SORRY, I JUST HAVE TO INTERJECT. THE POINT OF HAVING AN EMERGENCY VENDOR IS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY. WELL, THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY. THIS HAPPENED TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. CONTINUES TO BE, WHY ARE WE, WHY ARE WE SPENDING ALL THIS AMOUNT? WE SHOULDN'T. HAVE YOU SPENT ANY TIME TALKING TO THE PEOPLE IN HUNDRED EASTDALE AVENUE? YES, I HAVE. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PEOPLE TODAY WHO LIVE ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE, WHO SPEAKING A HUNDRED EAST HARSDALE AVENUE WHERE THEY'RE CLEANING, THEY'RE CLEANING THE TOILET. THERE'S, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR BASEMENT. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S, THERE'S MANY PEOPLE. THERE'S MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON EAST AVENUE WHO DON'T TRUST WHAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY, SO, OKAY. SO I THINK TOO SAD THAT JUST TRUST EVERYONE, EVERYONE, THIS DISCUSSION, ONLY BECAUSE YOU KEEP SAYING IT'S A NO BID CONTRACT. PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BID. WELL, RIGHT? IT'S JUST LIKE THIS CONSTRUCTION COUNCIL, RIGHT? THE CONSTRUCTION COUNCIL WHO THE CHAIRMAN, BY THE WAY, IS FROM FAIL INDUSTRIES, WHICH WAS JUST BEFORE US FOR MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE YEARS, WHO YOU SUPPORTED, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE DOING THINGS THAT WEREN'T PROPER, WE'RE TRYING TO GET 'EM TO WORK PROPERLY, EVEN THOUGH YOU KNEW THEY WEREN'T DOING IT PROPERLY. YOU STOOD UP, YOU WERE ON THE, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ON THE DAYS. WELL, YOU DOING IS MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS AS ALL. YES. YOU ALWAYS DO. SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST CUT IT OUT ALREADY. PLEASE CUT IT OUT. OKAY, LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON, PAUL, BECAUSE I'M GONNA TAKE, YOU KNOW, KNOW, PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK OVER ME. I WON'T SPEAK OVER YOU. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS AND IT'S CONSTANTLY PERSONAL ATTACKS. YOU'RE CONSTANTLY DEFAME AND SLANDER AND YOU'RE, YOU ARE BILLING EVERYBODY AROUND. SO STOP IT ALREADY. SO LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON. TRY, TRY TO PLEASE INTERRUPT YOU, GET HELP FOR YOURSELF. TELL ME WHEN YOU'RE DONE. YOU KNOW, WHAT, ARE YOU DONE? YOU STOP IT. WE'RE GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA, NO, I WANNA MAKE A POINT. LET'S MOVE ON. YOU. I'M NOT GONNA GET THIS PERSONAL ATTEMPT. STOP. PLEASE DON'T SPEAK OVER. WHAT'S THE NEXT, UH, YOU WERE UP ON THE DAY AS, AND YOU SAID TO OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, YOU WERE TORTURING FAIL INDUSTRIES BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO ENFORCE THE CODE. YOU'RE MAKING NO SENSE ANYMORE. THEY, THEY CAN LOOK AT THE TAPE YOU'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT. YOU COULD LOOK AT THE TERM. WELL, YOU YOU SHOULD BE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR HEALTH BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTING, YOU'RE ACTING, YOU'RE BASICALLY, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS EVERY TIME PAUL, THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE RULES, PERSONAL ATTACKS. SO STOP IT ALREADY. ALL RIGHT? ONE OF THE MAIN RULES IS DON'T SPEAK OVER SOMEBODY. YOU WERE UP ON THIS DAY. WE HAD THE PEOPLE HERE, WE HAD THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HERE, AND YOU SAID THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WAS TORTURING FAIL, AND YOU WERE ADVOCATING, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE DOING THINGS THAT WERE NOT PROPER, THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING IT PROPER GOING FORWARD, BUT THEY WEREN'T DOING THINGS PROPER AT THE TIME. AND THEN WE GET A LETTER FROM THE CONSTRUCTION COUNCIL, UH, INDUSTRY COUNCIL, [00:30:01] AND WHO'S THE CHAIRMAN? SOMEBODY FROM FAIL SUPPORTING YOUR POSITION, BUT THEY REALLY AREN'T. IT'S VERY WELL WRITTEN. AND IT SAYS, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WAS A CHANGE FROM GOING OUT TO BID, WHICH WE ALL AGREED TO DO. IF IT WAS GOING AROUND THE BUILDING, GO OUT TO BID. IF IT WAS GOING, IT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECT IF IT'S GOING AROUND THE BUILDING. BUT WHAT WAS THE CHANGE, WHICH APPARENTLY YOU DIDN'T SHARE WITH THEM, WAS THAT IT NOW COULD BE DONE AS A REPAIR, AN IN PLACE REPAIR, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE BID WAS FOR MURANO BROTHERS, THAT THEY WON THE BID. NOW THEY WON THE BID. AND WHO CAME IN SECOND IS SOMEBODY WHO'S ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THIS IN, UH, CONSTRUCTION COUNCIL. RIGHT? SO I, I DON'T THINK THEY INTENTIONALLY WANTED TO MISLEAD. I THINK YOU'RE TAKING IT FURTHER THAN WHAT THEY PUT INTO THEIR LETTER. MUCH FURTHER. THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING WHAT WAS THE CHANGE? AND THE CHANGE WAS, IT WAS NO LONGER A DIFFERENT PROJECT GOING AROUND THE BUILDING. IT WAS A PROJECT OF FINISHING THE REPAIR THAT THE MURANO BROTHERS, UH, WANTED TO START. NONE OF THAT IS A PERSONAL ATTACK. COMMISSIONER, DID YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? YEAH. COUPLE UPDATES. UM, CD THREE IS A CONTRACT, AND IT SHOULD HAVE THAT CLAUSE, UH, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. ANY AMENDMENTS OR ADDITIONS TO THE AGREEMENT BECOME EFFECTIVE ONLY AFTER AUTHORIZATION FROM A SUBSEQUENTLY DULY ADOPT A TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION. I'M GONNA REQUEST ASK THAT THE, THE BOARD ADOPT CD THREE AS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THAT CLAUSE AS WELL. BUT I THINK THE, DOESN'T THE CONTRACT ACTUALLY HAVE THAT I, IT, IT, IT WAS ASKED FOR THAT TO BE IN THE CONTRACT. YES, IT IS IN THE CONTRACT, YEAH. NO, NO. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. IF IT'S IN THE CONTRACT. OKAY. AND JUST AN UPDATE ON CD THREE. UM, THE REASON FOR THIS CONTRACT IS THAT, SORRY, I DON'T SEE IT IN THE CONTRACT. IT'S NOT, OKAY. YOU SAID CD THREE? UH, YES. THE RIVERTOWN SOLAR CONTRACT AMENDED CONTRACT. HOW ABOUT THIS? CAN WE SAY IF IT'S NOT IN, WE COULD VOTE AS AMENDED TO PUT IT IN. I, I, I'M NOT SEEING IT RIGHT NOW. SO, AS, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE SOLAR PANELS ARE NO LONGER DESTINED FOR THE PARKING LOT HERE BECAUSE OF THE COMPLICATIONS WITH THE BEDROCK. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS UPDATED CONTRACT. THE SOLAR PANELS PANELS WILL BE INSTALLED AT, UH, THE T-D-Y-C-C AND ABOVE LOIS BRONZES ROOF. VERY EFFICIENT PRO PROJECT. NOW, UM, I JUST DO WANNA NOTE THAT THE OVERALL PROJECT COST DID GO DOWN BY $60,000 POSITIVE. THE NEGATIVE IS THE INCENTIVES MOSTLY FEDERAL HAVE SHRUNK IMMENSELY. SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE COST TO THE TOWN, UM, IS INCREASED DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE OVERALL PROJECT COST, UH, HAS GONE DOWN. UM, THE PROJECT IS STILL OF MAJOR BENEFIT TO THE TOWN AND THE TAXPAYERS. IT STILL FALLS WITHIN THE TOLERANCE OF ACCEPTABLE BUYBACK, WHICH SHOULD BE BETWEEN SEVEN AND EIGHT YEARS. SOMEWHERE ON THE ORDER OF $70,000 A YEAR SAVINGS IN ELECTRICITY COST TO THE TOWN. SO STILL A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY BEYOND EVERYONE'S CONTROL HERE, UM, THE FEDERAL SUBSIDIES HAVE DECLINED SIGNIFICANTLY. YEAH. TO THE ONE THAT'S POSTED. AND AT ANY POINT IF THE TOWN BOARD IS, UM, READY AND AND WILLING, UH, I DO NOTE THAT THE, THE, UH, ONE LAWRENCE STREET, UH, APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT FOR THE TOWN FOR THAT PROJECT IS PRESENT. I KNOW THAT YESTERDAY THE INTENT WAS TO GET SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, UH, ANSWERED, UH, BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU WISH TO DO THAT, THEY ARE HERE AT YOUR DISPOSAL. YES. NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE HERE JUST MAKING AWARE THE MORE MINOR THINGS. OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE PROJECTED 70,000 A YEAR REVENUE? YEAH, HERE AND THERE. SO IT'S NOT JUST FROM VETERAN PARK, THAT'S 70,000. IT'S DIFFERENT. [00:35:02] THAT FILE NAME IS NAMED UPDATED. WE HAVE, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE UPDATED ONE. YEAH, NO, THAT'S LIKE SAYING LATEST . IT'S MEANINGLESS. THE ONE WE HAVE ATTACHED HERE, IS THIS THE SAME ONE THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE? I DON'T HAVE A PACKET. OH, YOU DON'T HAVE A PACKET. OKAY. THERE'S THE RED LINE, UM, MEETINGS, RULES AND PROCEDURES. UH, LET ME SEE. IS THIS THE SAME ONE THAT WAS POSTED? I'M NOT SURE. I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK. IT SHOULD BE, THAT SHOULD BE ATM RED LINE. YOU THINK IT'S DIFFERENT? I HAVEN'T SEEN A RED. OKAY. LEMME SEE THE RED YOU THE PAGE. IT'S ON MY LIST. IT COULD BE WITHOUT THE COLOR, BUT IS IT JUST NOT A RED LINE VERSION OF IT? Y YEAH, NO, IT'S, IT'S THE CORRECT VERSION, BUT IT'S JUST NOT RED LINE. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. BUT THANKS FOR CHECKING UP ON THAT YET. A RED WAS JUST TO PINPOINT, SO IF THE TOWN BOARD COULD MORE EASILY SEE THE CHANGES, RIGHT, RIGHT. TO THE EXTENT THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO BE INTERESTED IN CHANGES. THAT'S TRUE. WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND. I, ALTHOUGH THIS IS, CAN'T IMAGINE WE HAD 50 RESOLUTIONS. NORMALLY WE WOULD PUT UP A, 'CAUSE IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO PUT UP A TRACK CHANGES ON AGENDA QUICK BECAUSE IT AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPTS ALL THE CHANGES AND PUTS UP DISPLAYS WHAT IT IS. SO, BUT IF WE MAKE IT, IT'S RED LINE, SO ONE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE RED. WHAT'S THAT? IT SAYS RED LINE. SO YES. UNDERSTOOD. EXPECT TO SEE RED. UNDERSTOOD. SO MY GUESS IS THE NATIVE DOCUMENT IS, BUT AGENDA QUICK ACCEPTS ALL CHANGES. SO THE WAY WE DO THAT IS WE MAKE A PDF OF THE RED LINE VERSION AND PUT IT UP. BUT FRANKLY, WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE GOT 50 RESOLUTIONS DONE BY, BY NOW, MOST OF MY COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY WORKED OUT THE DEPARTMENT. I DO HAVE SOME ABOUT THE, UH, WHICH I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO CALL KIMBERLY. WE, WE SEEM TO BE PULLING ON THE, UH, BUDGET TRANSFERS. WE SEEM TO BE PULLING FROM CONTINGENCY ASKING QUESTION, LIKE FOR ELECTIONS, ELECTIONS HAPPEN EVERY YEAR. WHY WOULDN'T WE ACTUALLY BUDGET FOR THAT? WHAT MADE IT MORE EXPENSIVE? NOTHING. THAT WAS A PRIMARY. THERE'S ALWAYS A PRIMARY. THERE'S NOT. IT'S GREENBERG. OH. UM, UH, LET'S SEE. RIGHT, SO, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WEST WESTCHESTER COUNTY ELECTION CHARGEBACK, THAT'S $24,000 TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY OVER TIME FOR THE ELECTIONS IS 10, $11,000 TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY. UM, THE OTHER ONE IS UNEMPLOYMENT TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY AND, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE TAX FORECLOSURE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY. ARE YOU OUTTA MONEY? UH, YES, I BELIEVE SO. OKAY, WELL THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SO MANY ERRORS THAT THEY HAD TO FIX. THAT'S RIGHT. FROM THE PRIOR ATTORNEY. AND BY THE WAY, WHEN WE SAY PRIOR ATTORNEY, WE DO NOT MEAN TIM, TIM LEWIS, VERY CLEAR. HE DID NOT MEAN, I'M SORRY, TIM LEWIS. TIM LEWIS, THE, THE ACTUAL TOWN ATTORNEY. IT WAS A DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AND I, I WANNA TAKE US BACK TO, UM, TO C CD THREE, JUST IN, IN THE THIRD FROM BOTTOM, WHEREAS, UM, WAS LAST NIGHT. UM, THERE, THERE'S REFERENCE TO COST PROHIBITIVE [00:40:01] CONDITIONS, PRIMARILY BEDROCK AT THE SITE. BUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS CONFUSED AS TO WHICH SITE THAT WAS. SO, UM, RIGHT, UH, TOWN HALL SITE, I, YOU KNOW, I FIGURED IT OUT, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC. OKAY. OKAY. IN CD THREE? YES. YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S IN THE S IN THE RED TOWN HALL. IT'S IN, I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE RESIDENCE. OH, OKAY. IT DOESN'T SAY TOWN HALL IN THE ROSE HALL. RIGHT. WELL, IN THIS, THAT THERE WAS BED, BED FOUND TOWN. JUST SO DETAIL, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST UNDER THE PARKING LOT AT THE TOWN HALL SITE. SO THERE WAS A CAP ON THE ORIGINAL RESIDENTIAL. IT WAS, BUT THEN WE SO YOU'RE EXCEEDING IT? NO, WE, WE HAD AN OPTION TO BRING IT. I KNOW YOU DID THAT AFTER THE LITTLE LEAGUE PORT, BUT, AND WE DON'T WANNA MENTION WHAT THE TWO OTHER, YOU JUST GIVE THE ADDRESSES. WE'RE NOT MENTIONING THE BUILDING IN THE RESO 30 DASH TWO. WE'RE BE HAVING CONFUSION WITH THE PUBLIC HAVING SIDE CONVERSATIONS HERE. THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS. THE A FIVE NINE COUNSELMAN. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? THAT SAME OH, OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC WOULD'VE HEARD. OKAY. I I WAS JUST ASKING IN CD THREE, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, DO, WAS THERE A REASON NOT TO NAME THE SPECIFIC BUILDINGS? JUST PUT THE ADDRESS WE HAVE TOWN HALL AND THEN THE ADDRESS 30 DASH 32 MANHATTAN AVENUE. SO IN THE WAREHOUSE CLAUSE, WE SAY ABOVE THE LOWEST BRONZE CENTER IN TDYC. WELL, WE SPELL IT OUT RIGHT, UH, RESPECTIVELY. SO, UM, YEAH, I WAS JUST, JUST WONDERING. SO YOU WANNA PULL THAT, THE HEADER ON THE AGENDA? JUST ON THE AGENDA. IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RESOLUTION. THEY SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH EACH OTHER. I'M SORRY, WHAT? SO THEN I WANNA ADD IT, IT DOES SAY IT IN THE HEADER, JUST THAT SOLAR, THE ADDRESS WITHOUT SOLAR ARRAY TOWN HALL. AND WE DON'T SAY WHAT THE NAME OF THE BUILDING IS, THAT'S ALL. IT'S JUST AN ADDRESS. OH, JUST, AND WE SAY IT AT THE, AT THE FRONT OF THE HEADER TOO. SO IN PER WE COULD PUT LOIS BRONZE AND TD, WHAT DOES THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION SAY? UH, WELL, THE, THE RESOLUTION SAYS, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE RESOLUTION SAYS, UM, GREENBURG TOWN HALL AND 30 DASH 32 MANHATTAN AVENUE, TOWN OWNED SUB SUB, UH, TOWN OWNED SITES IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. RIGHT. I I JUST THINK THAT, I THINK IN PEREN, UM, T-D-Y-C-C AND LOIS BRONZE CENTER, UH, WOULD SUFFICE IN THE, WELL, IT WOULD'VE TO BE IN THE REVERSE ORDER BECAUSE 30 IS LOIS BRONZE AND 32 OKAY. . YES. AND THAT'S HOW WE HAVE IT IN THE, I MEAN, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE, WE'RE USING THEM AT THOSE TWO SITES. SO I WANT PEOPLE, SO THAT'S GONNA BE AS AMENDED THREE. YES. IT'S ALREADY AS, WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE. YES. AS LONG AS SOMEONE REMEMBERS THAT IT IS AS AMENDED. I, AND THIS WILL BE OPERATIONAL THIS YEAR? THAT'S CORRECT. AT THE OTHER SITE. GREAT. OKAY. AND WE'LL HAVE USED UP EVERYTHING, RIGHT? YES. YEP. AND THERE'LL BE NO FURTHER INSTALLATION OF ANY KIND HERE? NOT, NOT ANYTHING PLANNED IMMINENTLY. NOT IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. . YEAH. I MEAN, IF SUBSIDIES, UH, INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY, MAYBE THE PARKING LOT BECOMES VIABLE IN THE FUTURE. I DUNNO. MM-HMM . ON CO THREE, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A GRANT, UH, SOUGHT TO COVER THE $40,000. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? UH, CD THREE OR CL THREE OH, C3 THREE. CL THREE. WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT? APPROVING A, UH, CAPITAL BUDGET FUND, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $40,000 FOR THE LIBRARY ROOF REPLACEMENT. WE'RE PULLING $40,000. NOT FROM THE LIBRARY CONTINGENCY FUND, BUT THE HIGHWAY CONTINGENCY FUND. UH, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE SEEKING A GRANT TO COVER THAT MONEY. BUT NOTHING IN THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT THE MONEY FROM THE GRANT WILL GO TO REIMBURSE THE HIGHWAY FUND. YEAH. SIMILARLY, WE DID SOMETHING, UM, GOING BACK A WHILE, APPROVING THE ENTIRETY OF MONIES FOR, UM, FOR A, A GRANT THAT WE WERE SEEKING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, FOR TARRYTOWN AND, YOU KNOW, TO CONNECT IN FOR, FOR TARRYTOWN ROAD. TARRYTOWN ROAD. NO. UM, ONE 19, EXCUSE ME. AND WHAT BUILDING THAT IT WAS JUST, AND WE ALSO, UM, OH, WHAT BUILDING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? PARDON ME? WHAT BUILDING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU ? NO, THAT WAS, THERE, THERE WAS A GRANT BEING SOUGHT FOR, FOR, UM, [00:45:01] TO, UM, CREATE A BICYCLE LANES AND BUMP OUT AND, AND TO TIE IN THE BROADWAY. THE BROADWAY. UM, WE DID, WE VOTED ON SOMETHING SIMILAR. RIGHT. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? WHEN WE ROUTE ONE 19 U-S-D-O-T GRANT? YES. THAT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL, UNFORTUNATELY. I KNOW, BUT THE POINT OF IT WAS THAT WE HAD TO VOTE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE MONEY. SO BE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GRANT MONIES WOULD, THEN SOME OF IT IS REIMBURSABLE WOULD BE RE RIGHT. AND, SORRY, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION THAT SET? 3 0 3? THE QUESTION IS OH THREE. OKAY. SO THE QUESTION IS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF THAT STATES THAT IT'S REIMBURSABLE ONCE THEY GET THE GRANT AND AH, RIGHT. 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WOULD CORRELATE TO THIS. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE GRANT THAT'S BEING APPLIED FOR WILL COVER, SO LB TWO, LB TWO, UH, A PORTION, UH, OF, OF THE PROJECT. AND I BELIEVE AT BEST, 25% OR LESS. UM, YEAH, THERE'S NO GET, THERE IS A LARGER, LARGER POT OF MONEY. RIGHT. THAT IT'S, UM, THE DORMITORY AUTHORITIES YES. . AND, UM, THAT IS BEING APPLIED FOR CERTAINLY BY MANY LIBRARIES. AND THERE IS, THERE NEVER GUARANTEES FOR THE GRANT, BUT IT'S WORK THAT IS SO NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE THEY HAVE THE, THE ROOF IS BEYOND ITS, UH, USEFUL LIFE AND THERE ARE LEAKS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THE LIBRARY. SO THAT ROOF REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN ON THE DOCKET FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND SO WHAT THE, WHAT THE DORMITORY AUTHORITY SAID IS THAT WE HAVE TO, IT'S IN EFFECT SAYING WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE WORK REGARDLESS BECAUSE IT'S NECESSARY WORK. OKAY. BEFORE THEY, I DON'T, BEFORE THE GRANT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ACCEPT THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT. YEAH. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S HIS QUESTION. YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN GET CHRISTINA ON THE PHONE, SHE CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER. NO, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS HIS QUESTION. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS, IS INSTEAD OF TAKING CONTINGENCY FROM THE LIBRARY CONTINGENCY FUND, THEY'RE TAKING IT FROM THE HIGHWAY CONTINGENCY FUND. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE A GRANT THAT WOULD THEN REIMBURSE THAT $40,000, ANYTHING THOUSAND DOLLARS, ANYTHING MORE THAN $40,000 IN THE GRANT USED FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KEEP GOING AFTER CONTINGENCY AND CONTINGENCY AND CONTINGENCY. AND I, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY IT'S NOT COMING OUTTA LIBRARY CONTINGENCY INSTEAD OF HIRING. WELL, THE LIBRARY IS SPENT OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF ITS OWN MONEY FROM ITS FUND ON ON REPAIRS. AND, AND THAT WOULD ORDINARILY BE COVERED BY A TOWN, BY THE TOWN BECAUSE IT'S A TOWN BUILDING. SO, UM, THIS, THIS IS A CONCERN. THEY, THEY JUST HAVE, UM, THEY, THEY DO KEEP TAKING MONEY OUTTA THE LIBRARY FUND. UM, BUT THIS IS REALLY A TOWN BUILDING. SO THE, THE GRANT SHOULD REIMBURSE, IF NOT ALL, A GOOD PORTION. UM, AND IT'S WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE. AND THE SOONER IT'S DONE, THE BETTER. IT'S ALREADY BEEN POSTPONED FOR, I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING, EXCEPT IT'S NOT IN THE RESOLUTION THAT IF THEY GET THE GRANT, IF THEY DON'T GET THE GRANT, THEY DON'T GET THE GRANT. BUT IF THEY GET THE GRANT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME MENTION OF THE REIMBURSEMENT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. ALRIGHT. THAT'S FAIR. THAT BE AS YOU A BETTER IDEA HOW THAT WORKS. LB TWO, WHICH I THINK WOULD, UM, BE WHERE THAT WOULD BE SPELLED OUT. SO WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AS AMENDED. WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT LB TWO SAYS. WE SHOULD HAVE A FULL PACKET FOR A, THEY'RE PROBABLY UP THERE. YEAH. ALRIGHT. YOU WANT ME TO GRAB THE PACKET? ? WELL, WE SHOULD HAVE AT THE TABLE, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE FULL PACKETS. NO, NO, NO. UP HERE ON THE DESK. YEAH. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, CD UH, SEVEN. OKAY. THAT'S, UH, RELATING TO THE FOUR CORNERS. YES. UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON WEST ELLI AVENUE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ASKING ME QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THE FOUR CORNERS DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN. UM, IS THAT CONTINGENT ON, UH, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC ISSUES, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANNA SEE THE HOUSING, BUT THEY'RE ALSO ARE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE TRAFFIC AND THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE DRAINAGE ON CENTRAL AVENUE. YES. SO THERE WILL BE OBLIGATIONS BY FUTURE DEVELOPERS IF THERE ARE PROPOSED FUTURE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. SO, UM, YES. THE, THE TOWN'S NOT LOOKING TO TAKE ON THAT BURDEN. THERE WILL BE BURDEN PLACED ON PRIVATE DEVELOPERS. [00:50:01] THE CONDITION YEAH. AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT I BELIEVE WILL NEVER HAPPEN WITHOUT DEVELOPMENT. WHEN WE DO THE REZONING, WILL WE BE DOING THE REZONING AND THEN BASICALLY INCLUDING THESE CONDITIONS AS PART OF THE, UH, AS PART OF ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, FINAL, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR CERTAIN, AND THAT'S THIS GRANT NO MATCH, 160,000 IS TO GET THE SERVICES OF A PLANNING CONSULTANT AS WELL AS AN ENGINEER TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THE OBLIGATION SHOULD BE FROM PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT BE STORM WATER, UM, WATER, SANITARY SEWER, OR TRAFFIC. SO THIS WILL HELP US, UH, MEMORIALIZE AND MAKE VERY CLEAR WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO DO TO, TO, TO GET APPROVED AT FOUR CORNERS. AND, UH, HOW LONG IS THIS? IS IT GONNA TAKE UNTIL THIS GRANT IS IMPLEMENT? IS ACTUALLY WHEN, IS, WHEN WILL THE RECOMMENDATIONS BE, UH, PRESENTED TO US? THIS GRANT CD SEVEN FOR TONIGHT WOULD APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK STATE NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONTH, APRIL 12TH. THE INTENT IS TO APPROVE THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING CONSULTANT. THEIR WORK WILL UNFOLD OVER THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, GONNA BE FURTHER RESOLVED, SAYS SO REMOVING, UM, AT A GOOD PACE. BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY RE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REZONING UNTIL THEY COME UP WITH YOUR REPORT. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR EVEN EARLY NEXT YEAR. IT DOESN'T SAYS 1.1 MILLION, IT WOULD BE BILL DOCUMENTS OF ALL INITIAL FUNDS, INCLUDING GRANT FUNDS AWARD, SO THAT BE USED. OKAY. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY REIMBURSING THE, UH, WELL, THE GRANT WOULD BE APPLIED, SO WHATEVER, IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENTIAL, THEN WE WOULD BE PAYING THAT DIFFERENTIAL. I THINK MAYBE IT NEEDS JUST TO BE SPELLED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. WELL, WHAT HOWARD READS IN THE LAST, WHEREAS PARAGRAPH FOR LB TWO, JOE AND EVERYBODY, IT SAYS, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WILL SUPPORT THE PROJECT WITH ALL NECESSARY IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENTS SUCH AS COORDINATION OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS, PERMITTING DOCUMENTS, BIDDING DOCUMENTS, CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, ALLOCATION OF ALL INITIAL FUNDS, INCLUDING GRANT FUNDS IF AWARDED. SO IT'S BY DEFAULT THE GRANT FUNDS ARE IN THERE THEN. BUT WHAT DO THEY MEAN BY ALLOCATION? DO THEY MEAN ALLOCATION TO REIMBURSE THE, UH, IT'S NOT CLEAR. WELL, IT'S NOT SOME WELL, BUT ULTIMATELY THE RESOLUTION, THE, THE, UM, INTENDED READER IS, IS NEW YORK STATE TO SAY, OKAY, GREAT TOWN OF GREENBURG IS, UM, DOING, COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT AND WILL FUND IT AND FULLY UNDERSTANDS THAT, UM, REIMBURSEMENTS WILL NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THAT, UH, THAT PRE PREAUTHORIZED FUNDING OF THE PROJECT. RIGHT. WHEN THE MONEY GETS REIMBURSED. YES. THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS I, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT YOU WANNA BE, THAT'S THE INTERNAL THING, VERY CLEAR WITH, INTERNALLY WITH, UM, KIMBER, THE, THE COMPTROLLER AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET DIVERTED TO EITHER THE GENERAL FUND OR WHEREVER THE PROPER LOCATION IS. OKAY. I THINK LD IS PERFECT. I'M SORRY. IT'S THE C3 THREE THAT JUST HAS TO HAVE IT, BECAUSE THEN WHEN IT SAYS, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT'S IMPLIED, BUT YOU KNOW, IMPLIED IS NOT GREAT IN THE CONTRACT, UH, IS INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATION OF ALL INITIAL FUNDS. WELL, THE ALLOCATION MIGHT BE INTENDED TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT 40,000, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT'S, BUT IF WE PUT IT INTO THE, UH, CO THREE, THEN IT'LL BE CLEAR. AND ITS ONLY, AND IT'S ONLY IF YOU GET THE GRANT. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THE WAY THIS READS IS THAT, THAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO THE PAYMENT FOR, FOR EVERYTHING. RIGHT. SO THEN BY DEFAULT IT WOULD MEAN THAT WHATEVER, IF THERE IS A DIFFERENTIAL, WHATEVER THAT DIFFERENTIAL WOULD, WOULD BE PAID BY THE TOWN. UM, BUT THE GRANT MONIES ARE IMPLIED TO GO INTO THAT AMOUNT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T, YOU'RE, UH, THE WAY I'M HEARING IT IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE, IT'S SOUNDING LIKE WE'RE ALLOCATING THE FUNDS AND THE FUNDS WILL BE PAID OUT AND THEN WE NEED REIMBURSEMENT. BUT IF WE GET, IF THE GRANT IS ACHIEVED IN THE LIKELIHOOD BEFORE THE WORK IS DONE OR COMPLETE, THEN THAT GOES RIGHT. THAT'S THE RE THAT'S THE REIMBURSEMENT. THAT'S THE REIMBURSEMENT. THAT'S THE REIMBURSEMENT. YEAH. SO WE JUST WANNA ADD A, WHEREAS CLAUSE TO C THE GRANT IS RECEIVED RIGHT THERE. YEAH. I CAN'T JUST SAY WHEREAS SHOULD THE GRANT FEE RECEIVED THEN THAT THOSE MONIES WILL THEN, YOU KNOW RIGHT. BE REIMBURSED. RIGHT. TO THE APPROPRIATE IT'S THE HIGHWAY FUND. I GUESS I'M INTERPRETING IT'S, IT'S INTERPRETATION OF A WORD . RIGHT. OF WHICH WORD? LEGALLY. SO IT'S NOT A WORD. IT'S OKAY, WE'RE SPENDING ENOUGH TIME, WE DON'T NECESS WHAT TIME ON THAT. OKAY. WHATEVER MAKES WHATEVER CLARITY YOU FEEL THAT IT NEEDS, WE CAN PUT. OKAY. JOE, ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING [00:55:01] THIS? I, I AM. I JUST THINK WE NEED THE ONE SENTENCE JUST SAYING IT WOULD BE REIMBURSED TO THE HIGHWAY FUND. OKAY. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. WHAT IS, UM, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, UH, PO UM, WHICH IS THAT ONE, THE ONE ABOUT, UM, THE OLD FARM LANE. WOULD THAT ADDRESS SOME OF THE, UH, WHERE THERE'S PARKING RESTRICTIONS? IT'S, UM, P OH SIX, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO AMEND THE PARKING? YES. UH, THAT WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS HAD. YEP. THAT, THAT IS, UM, THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT EXTENDS THE NO PARKING ZONE FURTHER, UH, DOWN OLD FARM LANE. MM-HMM . ON THE RIDGE ROAD SIDE OF THE PARK. SO IT'S, IT'S LIVING UP TO COMMITMENTS THAT, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. AND, UM, THAT'S GREAT. YES. OKAY. SO LET ME JUST ASK COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, 'CAUSE SHE'S THE LIAISON TO THE ODELL HOUSE, ARE THEY SATIS, WILL THEY BE SATISFIED WITH THIS OR THERE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS? WELL, I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OLD FARM LANE, NO SENSE. OKAY. UM, AND, BUT WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. OKAY. AND, UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE, AND WE'LL WORK AT MAKING A RESOLUTION THAT'S A HAPPY ONE FOR EVERY, ALL CONCERNED. THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION THAT THE SUPERVISOR ASKED ABOUT, UM, EXTENDING IT 250 FEET WAS A NUMBER THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS RECOMMENDED. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S RESPONSIVE. GREAT. THAT IN PARTICULAR ONE. YES. OKAY. ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK WITH THE RESIDENTS ABOUT? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONGOING AND, AND WE'RE OF COURSE WE'RE RECEPTIVE AS TOWN STAFF AND YES, NO COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS AS WELL. YES. AS, AS WELL AS THE BOARD. RIGHT. WE'VE BEEN IN, IN CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION ON THIS. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY PROGRESS IN TERMS OF, UM, THE COUNTY CREATING THE TRAIL, UH, FROM THE PARKING LOT, UH, AT RIDGE PARK TOLLHOUSE? WE, I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE LEGISLATOR WHO, UM, ALLOCATED THE MONEY, DAVID IMMAMORA, AND WE ARE PLANNING A MEETING COMING UP IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. SO PW FOUR, I'M GONNA HOLD OVER BECAUSE, UH, APPARENTLY SOME LEGAL ISSUES HAVE DEVELOPED AND, UH, WE NEED TO GET LEGAL ADVICE. OKAY. HANG ON. PW FOUR. PW FOUR. WHAT ABOUT IT? UH, WE NEED LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING OKAY. THAT AGREEMENT. SO ARE WE HOLDING THAT OVER? UH, SURE. AS GOOD AS HE IS, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE RIGHT. ALRIGHT. IF WE'RE GOOD WITH EVERYTHING, WE SHOULD GO, UH, REVIEW THE LAWRENCE ONE, LAWRENCE STREET AND SWER APPLICANT HAS BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE, RIGHT? SURE. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. YOU READY? OR IF YOU, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. JUST QUESTION ABOUT YES, IT'S PW PW 10. WHAT? IT'S NOT ON THE RECORD HERE. THE PW 10 IS OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS. AWARD A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORWOOD PUMPING STATION TO ARCS. WHAT THIS WAS IT? WHAT'S THAT? PW 10? I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE SHOULD HAVE, UM, HAD, UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 2,563,000, YOU KNOW, DOLLARS, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT. AND I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD HAVE INVITES TO THE, THE COMMISSIONER OR, I BELIEVE STEVE HOUSE IS AVAILABLE. I IF HE, IS HE ON ZOOM? WHICH ONE? WHAT NUMBER I'VE GOT? YES, HE IS ON, HE'S RAISED HIS HAND TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. WHAT, WHAT, UM, OTHER NUMBERS. PW 10. OKAY. RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH, HE'S HERE. I'M JUST GONNA SPEAK TO IT. YEAH. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION FOR STEVE? WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? NO, I'M JUST ASKING IF HE COULD JUST, UH, TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BIDDING PROCESS AND, UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PLANS ARE AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE US A QUICK SUMMARY. SURE. SO IT WAS, I, OKAY, SO IT, IT WAS SENT OUT THE BID, UM, A NUMBER OF FIRMS REPLIED, UM, ARCADE, THE ONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED, UH, WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE BIDS. UM, AND THERE WAS A MEMO THAT WE SENT DOWN. AND THIS, THIS PROJECT IS, UM, IT'S THE THIRD AND FINAL PHASE OF THE THREE PHASE PROJECT. SO, UH, THE FIRST ONE BEING THE INTERCONNECTION THAT CONNECTED [01:00:01] THE, THE NO WOOD PUMPING STATION TO THE LUMBER PUMPING STATION. THE SECOND ONE IS THE, WAS THE STADIUM ROAD CHEMICAL, UH, TREATMENT BUILDING AND THE CONTACT TANK. AND THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD AND FINAL PHASE OF THAT, UM, ARCADE DID, WAS THE ENGINEERING FIRM FOR THE FIRST TWO PHASES, UM, WHICH GIVES THEM KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE THAT, UM, OTHERS LIKELY DO NOT HAVE. WHICH, WHICH, UM, WHICH MAKES THEIR BID LIKELY MORE, UM, MORE ACCURATE AND LESS SUSCEPTIBLE. CHANGE ORDERS. UH, HOW MUCH WERE THE OTHER BIDS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME IN LOWER? HOW MUCH LOWER WERE THEY? UM, I'D HAVE TO FIND THAT. UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME AT THIS TIME. I THINK IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF ITEMIZATION, ISN'T IT? THAT THEY, THEY INCLUDED IN THEIR BID SEVERAL MORE THINGS THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF, UH, HAVING WORKED ON THIS BEFORE. YES. AND WHICH IS WHY BIDS MIGHT HAVE COME IN LOWER, BUT THEY WEREN'T AS COMPLETE RIGHT. AS PART, AS PART OF THIS NUMBER. THEY'D ALSO, UM, TWO OR THREE OF THE ENGINEERING FIRMS BIDS WHO CONNECT, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEW PUMP STATION TO THE EXISTING STATE ROAD CHEMICAL FACILITY. UM, OTHERS DID NOT. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF OUR SYSTEM IN TERMS OF THE, THE HYDRAULICS, UM, AND, UH, THE GEOLOGY THAT OTHERS DO NOT HAVE, SIMPLY FROM THE FACT THAT THEY'VE WORKED HERE ON TWO PHASES. UM, AND, AND YES, THERE ARE ITEMS IN, IN THEIR BID, WHICH, WHICH IS LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE WITH THE GREENBERG ORDER SYSTEM THAT OTHERS HAVE DONE. I THINK YOU EXPLAINED THAT PRETTY THOROUGHLY IN YOUR EMAIL TO US. HAVE, HAVE THERE, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS WE'VE USED IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN, UH, SOME ISSUES FROM THE FIRST TWO PHASES WITH OUR ARC. WERE THERE ANY, UM, ANY PROBLEMS OR, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, OR I, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WHEN WE CONNECTED, I THINK BROOK TO NORWOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME PROBLEMS WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. AND I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING IF, UH, WITH THE FIRST TWO PHASES, WITH ARC, IF THERE WERE ANY, UM, CONSTRUCTION RELATED, UH, ISSUES OR PROBLEMS. WELL, HE WROTE THAT ALL IN. NO, I'M I'M NOT, I'M NO, I'M JUST LIKE, I KNOW. 'CAUSE YOU, YOU'RE SPEAKING AS LONG, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SAW THE MEMO, 'CAUSE HE DETAILED THAT IN A MEMO OF WHY JULY 7TH, WHY HE'S CHOSEN NO, I'M JUST ASKING. NO, NO, I'M NOT FINISHED. WHY? HE'S CHOSEN A ICQA FOR THE THIRD TIME. HE OUTLINED HOW WELL THEY DID IN THE, IN PHASE ONE, TWO, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THREE. NO, BUT I'M JUST ASKING. I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. BUT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS ON TV AND I JUST LIKE TO GET AN, AN, AN ANSWER IF THEY, IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY ANY PROBLEMS WITH, YOU KNOW, ARCADE AND PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF YOU COULD JUST SUMMARIZE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU PREVENT PRESENT BEFORE HE DOES THAT. CAN I TAKE IT BACK YOU TO YOUR, YOUR STATEMENT THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES IN CONSTRUCTION YEARS AGO, BUT, OKAY, BUT WERE THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE THE ARCADE DRAWINGS WERE DEFICIENT? NO, IT WASN'T CASE. OR WERE THEY, BECAUSE THEY, NO, THIS IS JUST, OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T REFLECT NO, JUST, JUST FOR EVERYBODY. AS YOU SAID, IT DOESN'T REFLECT ON ARCATA. IT REFLECTS ON THE CONTRACTORS PERHAPS WHO WERE COMPLETING THE JOB. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. CLARIFY. THIS MUST'VE BEEN LIKE 10 YEARS AGO. UH, COULD YOU, I, I WASN'T HERE COMPLETE ONE CAN SEE HIS MEMO IS UP. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOUR MEMO IS UP. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT UP WITH THE RESOLUTION. YEAH, IT'S UP. OH, OKAY. YEAH, SO WE, WE IT IT'S BEEN POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. YEAH, BUT I'M JUST ASKING FOR A RESPONSE. SO HE, WE, THE SUBJECT LINE OF THIS, YOUR MEMO IS JUSTIFICATION FOR AWARDING THE DESIGN OF THE NEW PUMP STATION TO ARCADES. YEAH. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST ANSWER THE ONLY, THE ONLY, THE ONLY COMPLAINT I WAS TOLD, I WASN'T HERE FOR PHASE ONE. I CAME IN THE MIDDLE OF PHASE TWO, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THE ONLY COMPLAINT WAS, UH, THE COLOR OF THE, THE CONTACT TANK. IS THAT WROTE, RIGHT? I WAS, YEAH. YEAH. FROM, FROM TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE WERE NO COMPLAINTS, UM, ABOUT OUR CASE, UH, EITHER THROUGH THE FIRST TWO PHASES. RIGHT. UH, AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR IT, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, WE POSTED THAT OVER THE WEEKEND. ANYTHING ELSE? NOT MY PART. THAT'S, [01:05:33] IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S IN OUR PACKET. YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION AND YOU HAVE THE MEMO. STEVE'S MEMO. OKAY. OKAY. 50 RESOLUTIONS. HMM. UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, COULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION AS THAT WAS JUST A PLACEHOLDER IN CASE ANY QUESTIONS CAME UP AND YOU WANTED LEGAL ADVICE. SO IF YOU DON'T NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU COULD JUST CLOSE THE MEETING. WAIT TILL SEVEN 30 FOR REGULAR TOWN BOARD. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK WE NEED A EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WELL, WE ALSO NEED TO, I I, I NEED TO, UH, WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED ON ONE LAWRENCE STREET. IF WE'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOO MUCH TO, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH TIME TO DISCUSS ALL THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THIS STENOGRAPHER HERE THOUGH. RIGHT. BUT THIS IS, THIS WOULD'VE HAPPENED NORMALLY IN A WORK SESSION THAT'S NOT ON THE, ON THE RECORD. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT YESTERDAY. WHY WOULDN'T WE BE REVIEWING THE, ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO US? GOOD QUESTION. I GUESS WE COULD ADD, ADD THE COMMENTS TO THE, TO THE RECORD, BUT IT JUST MAY NOT BE COMPLETE. MAY NOT BE TOTALLY ACCURATE. WELL, TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS THAT AS DETAILED AS THIS ONE, WE WOULD HAVE HAD ANOTHER WORK SESSION ABOUT IT. RIGHT. AND, BUT EVERYTHING GOT, UH, PUSHED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE STORM, THE STORM YESTERDAY. SO, AND WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. OR GARY, I ASK YOU QUESTIONS, BUT WE STILL NEED TIME FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. MIND JAMES. OKAY. PULL IT. WHY, WHY WOULD THIS BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NOT THIS, THIS ISN'T, NOT THIS, THIS IS FOR RIGHT HERE IS FINE. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. NO PROBLEM. ALSO, THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, JOHN CANNING IS LISTENING IN, UH, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR HIM. OKAY. THIS IS THE, UH, APPLICANT TEAM, BRIAN AL AND MARK PETRO FROM JMC. HOW YOU DOING? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? UM, SO AS, UH, YOU KIND OF MENTIONED, WE DID PROVIDE THESE TWO, UH, RESPONSE LETTERS MM-HMM . JUNE 22ND. SO ONE IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE SITE PLAN STANDARDS AND ADDRESSING EACH ONE OF THEM AS THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IN THE REVIEW. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMPLETE COMMENT AND RESPONSE TO EACH ONE ON HERE, BASICALLY. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN ALSO HERE, THIS IS JUST AN ENGINEERING LETTER. SO THIS INVOLVES THE, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE TOWN ENGINEERING STAFF AS WELL AS THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT AS WELL. UM, AND, UH, INCLUDED IN OUR SUBMISSIONS WERE THE SWIFT THAT WE HAD PREPARED IN APRIL THAT DISCUSSED THE DESIGN OF THE STORMWATER ASPECTS ON THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS AN APPENDIX FROM THE SITE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS ON FILE FOR THE PROPERTY. SO IN THAT APPENDIX, IT DETAILS THE PROCEDURES AND ACTIVITIES AND WHAT TO FOLLOW FOR ACTIVITIES ON THE SITE AND CLOSE TO THE RIVER AS WELL. SO THE, THAT'S JUST AN APPENDIX, A PART OF A BIGGER DOCUMENT THAT'S ALREADY ON FILE AS FAR AS YOU KNOW MM-HMM . UH, WHAT, WHAT MEASURES NEED TO BE FOLLOWED AS FAR AS PROCEEDING WITH EXCAVATION OR OTHER MATTERS TOO. THERE'S ALSO IN THEIR DOCUMENTATION AS FAR AS, UM, TESTING OF GROUNDWATER ON A, ON A LONG-TERM BASIS AS FAR AS, UH, LOOKING AT THINGS. AND, UH, I DID MENTION SOMETHING TO THE ENGINEERING JUST AS RECENTLY AS THIS WEEK THAT THERE IS, UM, THERE'S BEEN ONGOING TESTING TO FOLLOW WITH THE SITE MANAGEMENT AND LEVELS OF THE GROUNDWATER LEVELS ARE WITHIN THE STATE'S CRITERIA AS FAR AS ACCEPTABLE LEVELS, AS FAR AS CONTAMINATION IN THE GROUNDWATER AND SUCH. SO MM-HMM . I GOT THAT FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT THAT WAS PART OF THAT CLEANUP PROJECT. SO I DID CONVEY THAT TO THE ENGINEERING STAFF, UH, AS WELL IN THE STORMWATER DESIGN ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT THERE. MM-HMM . UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER COMMENTS YOU MIGHT HAVE SPECIFICALLY, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UH, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT AS FAR AS WITH THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AS FAR AS, [01:10:01] UM, UH, RESTRICTIONS, TIME RESTRICTIONS ON DELIVERIES AND TURNING MOVEMENT RESTRICTIONS AND SUCH. MM-HMM . UM, AND, UH, MR. CANNING CAN OBVIOUSLY WEIGH IN ON OTHER ASPECTS, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE. MM-HMM . WELL, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT WERE STILL IDENTIFIED AND RESPONDED TO FROM OUR ENGINEER BACK AS, AS MOST RECENTLY AS MONDAY. MM-HMM . SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH IT. IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S QUITE A BACK AND FORTH PROCESS, SO MAYBE GARRETT, YOU CAN PINPOINT SOME OF THOSE AREAS, OR I, I KNOW JASON, I PINPOINTED SOME AREAS AND ONE OF, I'M JUST READING AN EMAIL THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS THE, UM, THE DISTURBANCE TO THE CAP. UM, THIS IS NOT AN ENGINEERING THING, BUT, UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A, A CONCLUSIVE ANSWER AS TO HOW THAT'S GONNA BE ADDRESSED. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY RELATED TO THIS, UH, EMAIL HERE FROM, IS THAT FROM MONDAY? MONDAY? BUT I RESPONDED TO HIM ON TUESDAY. I SENT HIM THIS WITH RED RESPONSES BACK IN THE EMAIL. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT YET. OKAY. UH, BUT THAT WAS A RESPONSE BACK TO HIM. SO, UH, SPECIFICALLY, SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN ABOUT, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH OF INFORMATION AND ID, YOU KNOW, EXCHANGING OF, SO I JUST SPOKE WITH VINNY, UH, OKAY. FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, ACTUALLY RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING. OKAY. SO, UM, AS FAR AS THE COMMENTS, THERE'S FOUR COMMENTS. UM, ONE COMMENT BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT THE EXISTING SANITARY PIPE THAT CROSSES THROUGH THE PROPERTY. MM-HMM . WE SHOWED IT A 66 INCH SANITARY PIPE THAT'S BASED ON RECORD SURVEY INFORMATION THAT WE HAD. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DETAIL AND TECHNICAL MATTER. WE CAN SHOW IT AS ON THE CROSS SECTION AS BEING A 72 INCH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY A BIG SCOPE. MM-HMM . UH, COMMENT. UM, THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT A RODENT GUARD MISSING ON AN APRON DETAIL. AGAIN, VERY TECHNICAL ITEM. WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN A FUTURE, UH, THING, BUT AGAIN, DON'T SEE IT AS A, AS A VERY BIG MATTER. UM, THEN, YEAH. SO COMMENTS, UH, EARLIER ON MONDAY, TALKS ABOUT DISTURBANCE OF THE CAP SHOULD BE MINIMIZED IF ANY DISTURBANCE WOULD FROZE. APPLICANT MUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES LAID OUT IN THE DEC. UH, AGAIN, THAT KIND OF REFERENCES THAT APPENDIX. WAS THAT FROM YOU, THAT RESPONSE IN READ? THIS IS ACTUALLY, I'M READING MY RESPONSES TO NO, NO, I KNOW. I, I HAVE SOMETHING THAT, THAT HAS RESPONSES IN RED, BUT IT OKAY. OKAY. YEP. SO I HAVE IT FROM, FROM JASON COPPOLA, BUT THE RESPONSES ARE IN RED FROM YOU. YES. OKAY. CORRECT. JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT WAS NOT CLEAR. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. MM-HMM . UM, SO HIS COMMENT WAS ABOUT FILING PROCEDURES AND I HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. SO AGAIN, IT'S FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURES THAT WE, WE MENTIONED AND INCLUDED IN OUR JUNE SUBMISSION, UH, AS FAR AS ACTIVITIES LAID OUT THERE. AND HE TALKS ABOUT, UH, UH, UH, WHAT WAS IT, UH, MINIMIZING DISTURBANCE OF THE CAP. SO WE, WE, WE SHOW THAT WITH OUR CUT AND FILL DRAWING THAT WE WERE INCLUDED IN OUR PACKAGE, UH, TO THE BOARD AS WELL. IT'S ALSO INCLUDED, AGAIN, IN THE, UH, JUNE SUBMISSION, BUT IN THE CUT AND FILL, UH, ANALYSIS, IT SHOWS WHAT AREAS WE'RE ACTUALLY CUTTING, WHAT AREAS WE'RE FILLING. UH, OVERALL THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IS A NET CUT, AND EVEN IN THE FLOODPLAINS, A NET CUT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE FILLING, UH, TO REDUCE ANY FLOOD STORAGE IN THE FLOODPLAIN. WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FLOOD STORAGE IN THE FLOODPLAIN. UM, BUT WE DID REVISE THE GRADING BACK AROUND IN APRIL, UH, TO REDUCE HOW MUCH DISTURBANCE WE WERE DOING ON THE SITE THERE. SO A LOT OF THE CUTS AND FILLS ARE MAYBE ONE TO TWO FEET ISH. UM, UH, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A FOOT ESSENTIALLY. UM, AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN OUR DRAWING, C FOUR 10. UM, THERE. WHAT IS THE ALLOWABLE TO CUT THROUGH? WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE, WHAT? IS THERE AN ALLOWABLE DEPTH WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, SO THERE'S, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT, BUT BASICALLY, UH, THE D THE, THE SITE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT'S ON FILE ALLOWS YOU TO DO WHATEVER ACTIVITIES YOU REALLY WANT TO DO. AND THESE DOCUMENTS HAVE REVIEWED BY THE PERSON THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE SITE MANAGEMENT PLAN PREVIOUSLY, AND HE REVIEWED IT AND SEES NOTHING OF AN ISSUE AS FROM A STATE DEC STANDPOINT EITHER. UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES ON THE PROPERTY. UM, IF YOU HAVE TO EXCAVATE, THERE ARE CERTAIN PROCEDURES YOU GOTTA FOLLOW. SO IF YOU GO BELOW THE EXISTING CAP, YOU EXCAVATE AND YOU, YOU HAVE TO DISPOSE OF IT IN A PROPER MANNER FOR STATE REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES. BUT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS ESSENTIALLY RE-PUT IN THE CAP AT THAT LOWER ELEVATION, WHATEVER YOU'RE EXCAVATING IT TO. SO YOU CAN STILL DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO PROVIDE SITE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. AND THE STATE DOES NOT WANT TO RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. THEY HAVE PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEY WANT YOU TO DEVELOP IT. SO THAT'S WHY, UM, THOSE, THOSE PLANS ARE IN PLACE AND ON FILE FOR THEM TO FOLLOW, TO ALLOW THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND SUCH. OKAY. AND THAT'S, WAS, WAS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO, AND MAYBE NOT THE RIGHT TERM TERMINOLOGY. IF THERE WAS A LIMIT TO HOW MUCH YOU REACH THE CAP, THERE ISN'T REALLY A LIMIT. UH, I, I WOULD HAVE TO [01:15:01] AGAIN, RELY ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT. I'M NOT THE SPECIFIC PERSON THAT DID THE SITE MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SENT HIM, HE'S REVIEWED ALL THESE SITE DRAWINGS AND EVERYTHING, AND HE SEES NO ISSUES AS FAR AS FROM A STATE PERSPECTIVE AND FOLLOWING A STATE MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE THERE. ULTIMATELY, IF THEY WERE TO PUT LIKE A, A, AN ACTUAL STRUCTURE, SAY LIKE A, YOU KNOW, 50,000 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE TO HOUSE VEHICLES AND WHATNOT, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA OBLITERATE THE CAP FOR OVER AN ACRE. UM, THE MAIN RESTRICTION IS THE USE. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE LIKE PARK-LIKE USES OR, UM, RESIDENTIAL OF COURSE. SO, UM, YEAH. WELL, I, YEAH, IF YOU DO SOMETHING MORE OF THAT TYPE OF USE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO A FURTHER IN-DEPTH CLEANUP, I WOULD ASSUME EVEN AN OFFICE WHERE THERE'S, UM, MORE FULL-TIME AND THERE, THERE ARE PROTECTIONS FOR THE, THE CONSTRUCTION PERSONNEL YEP. THAT ARE BREACHING THE CAP. SO YEAH, THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT, I, I WON'T GO THROUGH IT, BUT THIS, THERE'S THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT, THIS IS THE APPENDIX B HERE, AND IT TALKS ABOUT TESTING, SOIL STAGING, UH, EXCAVATIONS, UH, TRANSPORT, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE DURING THOSE DIFFERENT STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT EXPOSURE AND EXPOSURE ON THE PART OF THE PERSONNEL. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. SURE. UM, AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY. YES. WHAT ARE THE AT LIMITS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY? CAN YOU, BECAUSE I DIDN'T, THE LIMITS, WELL, THEY STUDY UP TO A CERTAIN POINT ABOUT SIX FEET A MILE BEYOND THAT, UP AND DOWN SOME OVER THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE DOES THE TRAFFIC STUDY START? SO THE, OR DOES IT FINISH FROM THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY ITSELF STUDIED LAWRENCE STREET FROM THE PARKWAY TO SOMO RIVER ROAD NINE, A INTERSECTION. THOSE, BUT NOT NINE A. WE STUDIED NINE A AT LAWRENCE STREET. SO IS THAT, BUT WELL, AT THE INTERSECTION, YEAH. BUT NOT UP NINE A AND DOWN NINE A THE, YEAH. THOSE ARE THE LIMITS THAT WE, WE HAD IN OUR STUDY AS FAR AS THE INTERSECTIONS. BUT GOING UP AND SOUTH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES WILL LIKELY TAKE THE PARKWAY TO GET THERE, BUT IF IT'S A TRUCK, IT WOULD BE TAKING 87. WE DID, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DID, UH, TALK WITH A MEMBER OF LEY, UH, BOARD MM-HMM . AFTER THE MEETING LAST TIME. MM-HMM . AND HE HAD SOME QUESTIONS. WE, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED HIS QUESTIONS AND HE SEEMED SATISFIED WITH THE ASPECTS OF WHICH MEMBER WAS THAT? I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME SPECIFICALLY. IT WAS SOMEONE FROM THE, THE BOARD THOUGH. OKAY. I FORGOT HIS NAME. I'M SORRY. OKAY. YEAH. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC IN GENERAL UP AND DOWN NINE A. SURE. SO I THINK MR. CANNING HAS, YOU KNOW, GONE THROUGH MOST OF THOSE THINGS. I JUST HAVE ONE REMAINING CONCERN. SURE. SO AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, I REQUESTED A VISUAL OF THE LARGEST TRUCK THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED. I NEVER RECEIVED THAT. OKAY. UM, BUT BASED ON WHAT I DID SEE, UH, THE PHOTO YOU DID PROVIDE OF THE SMALLER TRUCK, AND THEN ALSO THE DIAGRAM SHOWING THE TURNING, I'M NOT CON, I PERSONALLY AM NOT CONCERNED WITH THE TURNING, UH, ONTO LAWRENCE STREET FROM SAW MILL RIVER ROAD. I'M CONCERNED WITH TURNING WITHIN LAWRENCE STREET INTO THE FACILITY WITH A TRACTOR TRAILER. THAT IS MY BIG CONCERN. AND TO ME, THERE IS NO TIME PERIOD IN WHICH THAT IS SAFE. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE SEVEN TO SEVEN RESTRICTION, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S EVER SAFE, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA SWING OUT. IT CAN'T NOT SWING OUT. THAT ROAD IS TOO NARROW, CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THAT BIG A TRUCK. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY STICKING POINT. I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. YEAH, I AGREE. MY MAIN QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE, UH, SMALLEST TRUCK THAT YOU WILL AGREE TO CONDITION AN APPROVAL ON SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CONCERN THAT WAS JUST RAISED? UH, I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST TRUCK. YEAH, I THINK THE SMALLEST TRUCK. I THINK YOU, YEAH. YEAH. IT'S THE BIGGEST ONE. THE BIGGEST ONE. YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S RIGHT. TO MATCHBOOK A LITTLE MATCHBOOK MATCHBOOK. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL ACCEPT GOLF CARTS, BUT, UM, THEY SAID W UH, WB 50. YES, CORRECT. THAT'S A, A 42 AND A HALF FOOT TRAILER. THAT'S NOT THE BIG TRACTOR TRAILERS YOU SEE ON 6 84. THOSE ONES ARE MORE LIKE 53 FOOT TRAILERS. UM, SO THIS IS ON THE SMALLER END OF TRACTOR TRAILERS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU HAVE A PICTURE, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE AVAILABLE. I DID ASK THE CLIENT TO PROVIDE THAT. I DIDN'T GET A SAMPLE. IS IT THE SMALLEST LEVEL OF TRACTOR TRAILERS? YOU SAID IT'S ON THE SMALL END. THERE'S, THERE'S ONE MORE. IT'S A WB 40, WHICH IS A 33 FOOT TRAILER. UM, AGAIN, EVEN IN THE RENDERING THAT I PROVIDED, THERE IS A TRACTOR TRAILER ON LAUREN STREET. MM-HMM. UM, OVER THERE. UM, BUT, UH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT OUR DRAWING DOES SHOW THAT THE TRACTOR TRAILER DOESN'T DO AN OUTSWING TO GET IN. WE HAVE THE RADI EYES LARGE ENOUGH THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO CROSS OVER INTO [01:20:01] THE ADJACENT LANE ON LAUREN. SHOOT, WHEN TURNING IN THE WAY I READ THE, THE DRAWING, THERE WAS A SLIGHT OH, SWING IN. WELL, IT SWING OUT. DEPENDS. IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE DRIVER. IT DEPENDS ON THE DRIVER. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE TOO. THE, I WILL SAY THAT THESE TRUCK ATTORNEYS DO TEND TO BE CONSERVATIVE, UH, JUST BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE, UH, WHEN WE DO THESE AND WHEN THEY DO SCREEN ON THE FIELD. UM, I GUESS I CAN DO THAT. I, I AM IN THE ZOOM, UM, OH, OOPS, SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE JOIN AS A PALACE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. SURE. I AM REQUEST, WE NEED AN EXECUTIVE. HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE AND NOT TO TAKE LOOK FROM THIS INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT. START THE MEETING. . SORRY. SO THIS IS THE, UH, JUST SO I DUNNO WHERE YOU CAN SEE, BUT BASICALLY THAT'S THE, THE, THE SIDE PROFILE OF THE TRUCK ON THE, THE PLAN BASICALLY. UM, AND THEN I'LL JUST ZOOM IN IN THESE LOCATIONS HERE. SO YOU SEE THAT'S THE TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE TURN GOING INTO THE FIRST DRIVEWAY. LAUREN STREET IS NORTH, SOUTH ON THE PLAN. AND THEN NINE A IS TO THE PLAN SOUTH. SO THEY'RE COMING FROM, OH, I'LL GO DOWN HERE, COMING FROM NINE A HERE. MM-HMM . HEADING UP, ENTERING INTO THE FIRST DRIVEWAY, TURNING RIGHT HERE. YOU SEE, YOU GOT THE DOUBLE YELLOW, UH, RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. AND THEN YOU GOT THE FULL LANE, UH, FOR SOMEONE COMING FROM THE PARKWAY TURNING IN. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GO TO THE OTHER ONE. MM-HMM . WHICH IS JUST UP, THIS IS THEM EXITING. UH, SO SORRY, THAT'S UP HERE. SO THIS IS THE TRUCK. IF HE ENTERS IN THE SECOND DRIVEWAY OR THE WESTERN DRIVEWAY, UH, AGAIN, THE PARKWAY IS ACTUALLY FURTHER NORTH ON THIS PLAN. MM-HMM . BUT AGAIN, HE'S NOT GOING OVER THE DOUBLE YELLOW THERE. YOU STILL HAVE THE WIDTH OF A, OF A CAR TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE STRAIGHT WHILE THE TRUCK IS TURNING IN. WELL, AGAIN, IT'S A DRAWING. IT'S, YEAH. AND IT, YEAH. I KNOW WE'RE PRESSED FOR TIME. JUST ONE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL FOCUS MORE ON THIS TONIGHT IN MY REMARKS. THERE ARE TWO CONDITIONS THAT WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH, WITH TOWN STAFF AND JOHN CANNING. AND ONE IS, UH, LET'S JUST SAY IN A HYPOTHETICAL WHERE THE SCAFFOLDING COMPANY ACTUALLY NEVER TAKES ON THE SITE. AND LET'S JUST SAY THE, THE BUSINESS NEEDS, UH, CHANGE AND THEY SEEK ANOTHER TENANT. WHAT WE'RE SETTING UP IS A CONDITION THAT THE BOARD'S APPROVING A FACILITY OF THE INTENSITY OF WHAT'S BEEN REPRESENTED THROUGH THESE STUDIES. SO, UM, THAT'S, WE FEEL A VERY, UH, PROTECTIVE, HIGHER PROTECTIVE CONDITION. AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, ARE INTEND TO BRING UP A CONDITION THAT SAYS THAT IF OBSERVATIONS IDENTIFY THAT, LET'S JUST SAY IF, IF INDEED ONE TRACTOR TRAILER'S ALLOWED AFTER 7:00 PM IF IT'S DEEMED TO BE DANGEROUS, THERE IS, THERE ARE CHECK-IN POINTS THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO REVIEW THAT CONDITION. SO YOU COULD BECOME MORE RESTRICTIVE IF IN THE FIELD IT'S NOT PANNING OUT AS, AS WAS JUST REPRESENTED HERE. SO, UM, IT COULD BE TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY IT'S PHONE CALLS. WE DO PHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS, CAMERA, OR JOY WITH THE WHISTLE. BUT WE NEED, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE JUST FOR THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S GONNA BE MONITORED. BECAUSE WILL THERE BE, ARE THERE CAMERAS THERE? UH, I THINK THERE'S A CAMERA. THEY WANTED TO GET A CAMERA NOW. 'CAUSE I GUESS THERE'S SOME VANDALISM ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON CURRENTLY. UM, BUT WE'RE NOT SHOWING ANYTHING THERE. BUT THERE WOULD BE SOMEONE ON SITE, UM, WHEN THE FACILITY WOULD BE OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN, UH, BASICALLY AS FAR AS DROPPING OFF WHATEVER EQUIPMENT OR, AND SUCH, COULD WE DO A DRY RUN WITH A WB 50? WELL, IT WON'T WORK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DRIVEWAYS DRIVEWAY. THAT'S TRUE. WELL, MAYBE IT COULD BE A PARTIAL DRY RUN. SO WE COULD SEE HOW, UH, THE TRUCKS WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL TURNING EVEN FROM NO, WITHOUT NINE A. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING JUST FROM, UH, STORM RIVER ROAD. SO WE, WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A, A BETTER APPRECIATION. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA HOLD YOU UP. WE DON'T, WE JUST, WE WANT TO BE SAFE. THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. YEP. THESE ARE PRETTY STANDARD TO BE SUBMITTED THIS WAY, SO. OKAY. I KNOW. OKAY. I, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS REFLECTING ON, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTION TB SIX ABOUT WHERE BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING THAT THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES IN WRITING MUST BE RECEIVED FOR AN ITEM TO GET PLACED ON THE WORK SESSIONS AND NO, NO, THAT'S YOU, YOU SAID THEY WERE DONE, BUT THEY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE REALLY APPRECIATE NO MORE QUESTIONS. I THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO HOLD IT OVER BECAUSE SUPPORT WHAT, LET'S GO BACK. TB SIX BASICALLY SAYS THAT THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES HAVE TO BE IN WRITING FOR AN ITEM TO BE PLACED UNDER WORK SESSION, AGENDA TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, PERMITTING. SO BASICALLY IF TWO OUT OF, UM, OH, YOU MEAN ONE OF THE RULES AND PROCEDURES. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S, FIRST OF [01:25:01] ALL, I FEEL AS TOWN SUPERVISOR, IF I WANNA PUT SOMETHING ON A WORK SESSION AGENDA, I SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT, UH, TO PUT IT ON. AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT, BUT AT LEAST WE COULD DISCUSS IT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY FEEL THIS IS CENSORSHIP. UM, IT'S OKAY, BUT WE DON'T, WE THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THE RULE. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? ON IT'S ALREADY BEEN PART OF THE RULES. YOU ALREADY WELL, WELL WE HAVEN'T FOLLOWED IT AND I HAVEN'T, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S CENSORSHIP AND I BASICALLY FEEL AS TOWN SUPERVISOR, I SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT ANYTHING I WANT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION IF THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT IT. SO I, I'M HOLDING, I'M HOLDING OVER THE RESOLUTION. WE CAN'T, WE, WE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY HELD THIS. NO, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS IS, UH, RULES. IT'S NOT YET. WE OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. LAST TIME THOUGHT. DID WE HAVE, CAN WE MAKE AN, IT CAN BE HELD OVER BECAUSE IT WASN'T POSTED. I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT CLAUSE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY YOU IN FEBRUARY. WELL, I, I, I, I, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT, UM, THAT IT'S CENSORSHIP AND IT'S NOT DEMOCRACY. WELL, THAT'S NOT, NOT, IT'S NOT DEMOCRACY. IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S BASICALLY OPINION IF GEORGE LATIMER, GEORGE LATIMER GOES ON, ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, AND IF DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T WANT TO LET HIM SPEAK, PEOPLE WOULD THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. SO IT'S THE SAME POLICY? SAME THING. OH, WELL I HAVE, I HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION, A SUGGESTED MOTION BASED ON WHAT I BELIEVE WILL BE THE TOPIC AND IT'S MOTION TO DISCUSS, MOTION TO ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT HISTORY OF A PARTICULAR PERSON. I CAN'T MAKE THAT MOTION. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. UM, I HAVE TO RUN OUT. SO I'M, I'M, I, UM, YOU NOT, SO YOU NOT DOING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO. OKAY. HOW I TO RUN OUT ANOTHER MEETING? HOW ARE WE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION? YOU HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, BUT HAVE I HAVE A MEETING RIGHT NOW? HOW WE HAVE THIS? WELL, I DON'T WANNA DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE BASICALLY, BUT WE HAVE, I, ANOTHER THINGS TO DISCUSS. I MAKE, I DON'T WANNA DISCUSS, I DON'T WANNA DISCUSS A PERSONAL MATTER, WHICH INCLUDES, COULD YOU TELL ME, WAIT, I WANNA KNOW WHO, UH, WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? AND THAT'S THE POINT OF GOING. OKAY. COULD YOU TELL US DOES THIS PERTAIN TO SALARIES, YES OR NO? OF DOES IT PERTAIN TO SALARIES OF INDIVIDUALS? AND BASICALLY, UH, COULD YOU BE, COULD YOU SPECIFY IN MORE DETAIL WITHOUT GIVING I CANNOT, I, I, I SUGGESTED IS THIS A MAJOR SALARY INCREASE? NO. IS IT A, IS IT A SALARY ADJUSTMENT? WE ALREADY MOTION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.