* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. GREAT. [00:00:01] WELCOME TO OUR [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ] TOWN BOARD, OUR BOARD SESSION. UM, TODAY IS JULY 28TH, UH, FIVE 50, AND THE FIRST ITEM IS FIVE 40 WHITE PLAINS ROAD. THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU, SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD. SOME OF YOU, CAN YOU JUST TURN THE MIC ON, PLEASE? THANK YOU. AND PUT YOU CLOSER. YEP. I WAS CONCERNED I WAS GONNA GET TOO LOUD, TOO QUICKLY. UM, SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. SUPERVISOR MEMBERS OF TOWN BOARD, SOME OF YOU. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. UM, MY NAME'S NEIL ALEXANDER. I'M A PARTNER AT THE LAW FIRM OF PETTY AND FADER. PAUL DUMONT WITH ME TO MY LEFT FROM JMC TO MY RIGHT IS WILL MCKEEVER FROM, UM, FRANK RALPH ARCHITECTS. I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER FRANK'S MIDDLE INITIAL, BECAUSE HE LIKES TO USE THAT. UM, IN ANY EVENT. SO FIVE 40 WHITE PLAINS ROAD, UM, FOR THOSE, YOU'VE GONE BACK A LOT OF YEARS. YOU MAY HAVE REMEMBERED DOING WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE PAPERWORK AND AN IDA DEAL WITH SIBA EVEN ON THAT PROPERTY GOING BACK OKAY. GOING BACK A FEW YEARS. SO, UM, IT'S ALL PART OF THE TAR TOWNS, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE CENTER COMPLEX. UM, FIVE 40 IS A STANDALONE FIVE 4.34 ACRE PROPERTY. IT'S IN THE OFFICE BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT. THERE'S AN EXISTING SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING. THE BUILDING ACTUALLY SPANS 505. 4,500 IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE. OUR CLIENT'S FIVE 40 WPR LLCS, YOU CAN PROBABLY SURMISE. UM, WHITE PLAIN FIVE 40 WHITE PLAINS ROAD FROM THE INITIALS BOUGHT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024. UM, THE FIVE 40 PROPERTY FROM, FROM THE OWNER OF BOTH. AND WHAT WE'RE COMING IN TO DO IS THERE'S A SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING. IT'S GONNA STAY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY OFFICE DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE IN THIS MARKETPLACE. AND WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THEY ALSO BOUGHT IT SUBJECT TO A, A COVENANT THAT IT COULDN'T BE REPURPOSED FOR RESIDENTIAL. SO WE LOOKED AROUND, WE ALSO SAW THERE ARE ABOUT SIX HOTELS IN THAT STRETCH, AND THERE'S ALREADY AN ASSISTED LIVING, BUT UNDER YOUR CODE, UM, SELF STORAGE IS A, IS A PERMITTED USE IN THAT DISTRICT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO BASICALLY THE, THE BUILDING IS ESSENTIALLY VACANT. THERE'S SOME QUIRKS THAT PAUL WILL GET INTO RELATIVE TO THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE RECIPROCAL EASEMENT THAT EXISTS BETWEEN FIVE 40 AND 500. ABOUT SOME, UM, LEGACY USES THAT ARE REMAIN ON THE FIRST FLOOR ARE PART OF IT. THE REST OF IT ABOUT 110,000 SQUARE FEET OVER THE, OVER THE OTHER FIVE FLOORS WILL BECOME SELF STARCH, IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, I THINK AT THAT POINT IS THAT, YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH I THINK, UM, AND WHAT PAUL ALSO SHOWED YOU TOO, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN BEHIND IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ONE BEHIND ME THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE LEFT, IS YOU CAN SEE THE, THERE'S BASICALLY TWO BIG BUILDINGS. ONE ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS 500. OUR LOT IS FIVE 40 ON THE RIGHT SIDE, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WALKWAY BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. SO THAT ALL THAT, THAT WILL HELP I THINK FRAME WHERE SURE. WHEN PAUL WALKS YOU THROUGH THE SITE. SURE. SO, UH, GOOD EVENING. ALL, UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS PAUL DUMONT WITH JMC. WE'RE THE SITE CIVIL ENGINEERS ON THE PROJECT. UM, I JUST WANNA START JUST TO KIND OF ORIENT EVERYBODY. I HAVE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY UP ON THE SCREEN. SO, UH, OUTLINED IN GREEN HERE IS THE, OUR PROPERTY. IT'S FIVE 40 WHITE PLAINS ROAD, AS NEIL MENTIONED, 4.34 ACRES. UH, AND THEN JUST SOME SURROUNDINGS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF AN OVERALL, UM, OFFICE COMPLEX. AS NEIL MENTIONED, WE HAVE, UH, WHITE PLAINS ROAD TO THE NORTH, AND THEN WE HAVE INTERSTATE 2 87, UH, TO THE SOUTH. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, WHERE MY MOUSE IS POINTING HERE, THAT'S THE, UH, LITTLE CONNECTOR BUILDING THAT CONNECTS 505 40. UM, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING. AND THEN THERE'S, UH, ONE PRIMARY PARKING AREA IN THE FRONT NORTHERN SIDE OF THE, THE LOT. AND THEN THERE IS A SMALLER PARKING AREA TO THE SOUTH THAT'S ACCESSED, UM, VIA THE, THE ACCESS DRIVES THAT GO AROUND THE, THE BUILDINGS THERE. UM, IN ADDITION, THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF GREAT CHANGE, WHICH I'LL HIGHLIGHT AS WE GET INTO THE PLAN. BUT THE GRADE, UH, FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING DOES STEP UP A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN THE GRADE FROM THE, THAT REAR PARKING AREA TO I 2 87 STEPS UP AGAIN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A RETAINING WALL, UM, AT THAT PROPERTY EXTENT THERE. AND WE ALSO, JUST TO INTERRUPT FOR ONE SECOND, IS WE'RE ALSO SITTING COMPLETELY BEHIND THE ACOUSTIC WALL, 4 2 87, WHICH SITS ABOVE US. THANK YOU, NEIL. UH, SO JUST TO GET IN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NOW INTO THE ACTUAL PROPOSED SITE MODIFICATIONS, THIS IS A RENDERED SITE PLAN, UH, THAT WE'VE PREPARED. THIS IS JUST ZOOMED RIGHT IN ON THAT SOUTHERN AREA OF THE BUILDING. SO THE SAME, SAME ORIENTATION AS WE WERE LOOKING AT BEFORE, BUT THIS IS JUST THE SOUTHERN AREA. UH, SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, [00:05:01] THE, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL SMALL SITE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO, UH, CONVERT THIS BUILDING TO A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. UM, THE MAIN ALTERATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO THE SITE IS THE ADDITION OF A LOADING AND PARKING AREA TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS BUILDING. UM, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF GRADE CHANGE HERE. SO THIS, THIS SOUTH, UH, LOADING AREA WILL ACTUALLY COME INTO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING. UM, BUT THE INTENTION IS THAT THIS WOULD BE THE PRIMARY ACCESS FOR, FOR CUSTOMERS. SO THIS IS WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND THE OFFICE WOULD BE LOCATED IF YOU WERE A NEW CUSTOMER OR A RETURNING CUSTOMER. UM, COMING TO THE BUILDING IN ADDITION, UM, JUST IN, IN THIS AREA HERE, WE DO JUST HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, RETAINING WALLS AND A WALKWAY AND SOME STEPS THAT KIND OF CONNECTS THE EXISTING NETWORK OF SIDEWALKS ALTOGETHER BETWEEN 505 40. AND THEN WE ARE PROPOSING A SMALL EXTERIOR STAIR, WHICH WILL, UM, IT REALLY SERVES FOR, FOR EGRESS AND CODE COMPLIANCE PURPOSES. UH, THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IN THIS SOUTH PARKING LOT AREA IS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING DRIVE UP UNITS. SO, UM, THESE ARE PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHERN PARKING AREA. THEY'RE ALL SHOWN IN YELLOW HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE. UM, BUT WE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THE, FOR THE ENTRANCE IN THE OFFICE, UH, FOR THE SELF-STORAGE USE. UM, ONE QUICK THING I WANT TO HIT BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO WILLIAM IS THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING, OBVIOUSLY FRONT ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, WHICH ACCESSES THE FIRST FLOOR DIRECTLY, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM FLOOR. THAT FLOOR, ALTHOUGH IT WILL HAVE SOME SELFS STORAGE COMPONENTS, IT WILL ALSO BE SHARED, UM, WITH THE ADJACENT BUILDING 500 BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR AMENITY SPACE IN, IN THAT, UM, BOTTOM FLOOR OF THE BUILDING. SO, UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO WILLIAM AND SURE YOU CAN GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT. ALRIGHT. MY NAME IS WILLIAM MCGEEVER. I'M A BROAD PROJECT ARCHITECT OVER AT FRANK RALPH ARCHITECT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO WE KIND OF ALSO HAVE OUR OWN LITTLE SITE PLAN HERE, WHICH DUPLICATES EXACTLY WHAT, UH, PAUL JUST WENT THROUGH. UM, SHOWING THE DRIVE UP UNITS AT THE REAR. UH, THE MAIN BUILDING IS NOT GETTING MUCH OF A CHANGE EXCEPT FOR A PROPOSED EXTERIOR STAIR, WHICH WILL BE FOR EGRESS REQUIREMENTS. UM, SO AS I PROGRESS A LITTLE BIT FORWARD, THIS FIRST FLOOR IS REALLY WHAT PAUL WAS JUST KIND OF ENDING ON HERE, IS TO THE PAGE NORTH WE HAVE 500, WHICH AS PAUL SAID, HAS THE AMENITY SPACE INSIDE OF THE FIRST FLOOR OF FIVE 40. THERE IS A LEARNING CENTER, THERE'S A CAFETERIA. UM, SO THEY STILL UTILIZE THIS SPACE. SO CREATING OR UTILIZING WHAT WE CAN FOR SELF STORAGE DOES CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A SECURITY CONCERN BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANT PEOPLE WALKING BY EITHER PEOPLE MOVING CARTS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PATHWAY. OR THOSE WHO ARE LEAVING THEIR STUFF IS TO TRY AND GET THE UNITS PEOPLE JUST WALKING BY GETTING LUNCH. SO THE PROPOSED WAY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS TO PROVIDE AND LIMIT THE ACCESS IS THERE'S A LITTLE LOADING AREA HERE IN THE FRONT, WHICH THE EXISTING OVERHEAD OR EXCUSE ME. UM, SO THERE WOULD BE A KEY OR FOB OR KEY, UH, KEY CODE ACCESS TO GET INTO THERE. FROM THERE, THERE'S A DIRECT HORIZONTAL PATH WITH MINIMAL, UH, CROSSING HERE THROUGH THE MAIN LOBBY SPACE. THERE WOULD BE A KEY CODE ACCESS TO GET INTO THE STORAGE AREA ON THIS DOOR WITH A SECOND FIRE EGRESS DOOR OVER HERE, WHICH WOULD BE ONE WAY OUT ONLY JUST FOR FIRE EGRESS. UH, AND THEN TO GET BACK INTO THE LOADING, WE WOULD RECOMMEND ANOTHER KEYPAD IN THIS WAY. SO THOSE COMING FOR SELF-STORAGE PURPOSES CAN GO FROM THE INTERIOR LOADING TO THE SELF-STORAGE AND BACK, BUT THOSE WHO ARE COMING FROM 500 FOR THE AMENITIES CAN'T ACCESS ANY OF THE SELF-STORAGE NEEDS. THE ELEVATORS, BECAUSE FLOORS TWO THROUGH FIVE ARE ALSO SELF-STORAGE USE PROPOSED, UM, WOULD NOT BE ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES THOSE. AND THOSE GET ACTIVATED AGAIN BY KEYPAD. SO REALLY UNTIL YOU HAVE A A LEASE FOR A SPECIFIC UNIT, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS ANY OF THE SELF-STORAGE AREAS. AND EVEN IF I HAVE A, A UNIT SAY ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU CANNOT ACCESS THOSE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. SO ONLY THE, UH, WHAT I HAVE HERE, MAYBE ABOUT TWO DOZEN SELF-STORAGE UNITS ON THE BASE. I'M GONNA PAUSE FOR A SECOND. COLLEGE CLIENTS HERE. , I'M SORRY. LATE CARTER, RIGHT CLOSE. THANK YOU. THANK. YEP. AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, YOU'LL SHARE END UP SHARING MICROPHONES. SO YES, NO PROBLEM. JUST PULL THE, PULL THAT MICROPHONE CLOSER IF YOU'RE USING THAT. THANK YOU. UM, YOU, YOU'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK ON TOP OF IT OR ELSE PEOPLE ON TV WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU. YOU OVER. [00:10:01] IT'S FINE. WE DON'T BITE . COME IN. THANKS DUDE. OKAY. UM, SO AS I WAS SAYING, THE ABOUT TWO DOZEN UNITS DOWN THIS FIRST FLOOR ARE ONLY ABLE TO BE ACCE, UH, ACCESSED BY THOSE WHO HAVE A UNIT ON THIS FLOOR. IF YOU HAVE A UNIT ON FLOORS, 2, 3, 4, 5, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THIS LEVEL. SO THAT REALLY LIMITS US DOWN TO STRICTLY THOSE WHO ARE HERE. UH, AS WE PROGRESS UP INTO THE SECOND FLOOR, IT BECOMES A TYPICAL SELF-STORAGE LAYOUT HERE, UTILIZING THE EXISTING ELEVATOR CORE. WE DO HAVE THE OFFICE AND THE COVERED LOADING AREA THAT PAUL MENTIONED OFF, OFF THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. SO THERE'S MINIMAL TO NO CHANGE TO THE FRONT FACADE OF THIS ALL OF, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE ELEVATIONS THAT I GET TO IN A LITTLE BIT, THAT ALL OF THE WINDOWS ARE PROPOSED TO BE TINTED IF THEY'RE REMAINING AND ONLY A FEW OFF ON THIS, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER ARE PROPOSED TO STILL BE ABLE TO BE SEEN THROUGH AS BE TRANSPARENT. AND THAT'S STRICTLY FOR DUMMY DISPLAY DOORS, UM, THAT ARE REALLY NEVER ACCESSED UNLESS THEY'RE BEING MAINTAINED, WHICH IS VERY MINIMALLY OR IF A LIGHT GOES OUT. BUT NOW WITH LEDS, THAT'S ONCE EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS. UM, SO THERE SHOULD BE NO VISIBLE DIFFERENCE TO THE FRONT MAIN PRIMARY FACADE. UM, EACH OF THE FLOORS ABOVE AND TAKES A SECOND FOR 'EM TO LOAD. BEAR WITH ME. UH, OUR JUST SELF STORAGE UNITS, UH, THE EGRESS STAIR THAT I MENTIONED OFF OF THE WEST FACADE IS SOLELY DUE TO CODE COMPLIANCE FOR EGRESS. UM, OTHERWISE THERE IS NO REAL CHANGE TO THE FACADE OF THIS BUILDING. AND AS WE PROGRESS ALL THE WAY TO THE ELEVATIONS, RATHER THAN SHOWING YOU LAYOUT AFTER LAYOUT HERE, SO WE HAVE THE NORTH PRIMARY FACADE THAT FACES WHITE PLAINS ROAD. YOU'LL SEE THOSE DISPLAY DOOR AREAS. UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GETTING A FILM ONTO THE EXISTING GLAZING AND COVERED WITH GAL LUA ON THE INTERIOR. SO YOU CANNOT SEE INTO THESE UNITS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE, UH, THE COLLECTION OF PEOPLE'S POSSESSIONS INSIDE OF EACH OF THESE. AND THE GLAZING IS ALSO PROTECTED. SO THERE WILL BE NO DAMAGE TO THEM FROM ANYTHING INSIDE THE UNIT THAT MAY TIP OVER OR FALL. UM, THE ENTRANCES, AS I MENTIONED, THE OVERHEAD DOOR ON THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS ALREADY EXISTING. THE DOUBLE DOOR ON THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS EXISTING. NOTHING IS CHANGING IN THAT RESPECT. YOU'LL SEE ON THE EAST FACADE HERE, THE COVERED EXTERIOR LOADING AREA. SO BASICALLY A VEHICLE, TYPICALLY A BOX TRUCK WOULD BACK UP INTO THIS. UH, JMC HAS DONE THE TRUCK TURNING RAISES TO SHOW THAT IT WILL WORK INSIDE THE PROPOSED LAYOUT WITH THOSE, UH, DRIVE UP UNITS WOULD BACK UP, UNLOAD THROUGH THE SLIDING DOORS AND THEN DRIVE AWAY WHEN IT'S ALL DONE. UM, THE REAR FACADE DOWN HERE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, WE DID HAVE A RETAINING WALL DUE TO THE CHANGE IN GRADE THAT JMC SPOKE ABOUT AS WELL. BUT WE HAVE A MINIMAL CHANGE TO THE STORE FRONT, JUST FOR THE OFFICE SPACE, OTHERWISE IT'S A SLIDING DOOR UNDERNEATH THAT COVERED LOADING. AND THEN THE DRIVE UP UNITS ARE TYPICAL SELF STORAGE DRIVE UP UNITS, NOTHING FLASHY, MINIMAL LIGHT EXPOSURE TO ANY ADJACENT, UH, SPACES. UM, VERY SIMPLE LOW THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM 2 87, UM, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. AND THEY'RE JUST PRETTY MUCH BRANDED THE SAME COLOR OF THE OPERATOR, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED YET. BUT THERE'S NOTHING FLASHY ABOUT THEM. THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO, UH, DRAW YOUR EYE, BUT THEY ARE SECURE. EACH ARE INDIVIDUALLY LOCKED. AND THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL, UM, TRACKS ON OR GUIDES IN THE TRACKS TO PREVENT FROM ANY DAMAGE OR ANYONE WHO'S GONNA HOOK UP THEIR VEHICLE AND TRY AND PULL THE DOOR OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, ROUTE THE PLACE THEY'RE SECURITY FOR THAT PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE SITE WOULD BE, UH, UP THE BUILDING CODES FOR THE LATEST 2025 NEW YORK STATE CODE AS WELL AS THE MAIN BUILDING, FULLY FIRE SPRINKLERED. UH, SO WE'D BE COMPLIANT TO EVERYTHING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THIS BUILDING TO BE UP TO PAR. AND HOW MANY ROOMS, AGAIN? TOTAL NUMBER OF OF UNITS, IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND. THANK YOU. TOTAL PROPOSED, INCLUDING THE DRIVE UP 1053. 1053. THAT'S CORRECT. UM, YOU LIKE, SAY THE WESTIE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE ON HOW MANY, UH, UNITS WOULD, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THEY HAVE, WOULD YOU SAY? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER HAD TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH SELF STORAGE, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S DEFINITELY A LOW IMPACT USE, RIGHT? SO LIKE, IS THERE ANY A THOUSAND IS MORE THAN OTHERS, RIGHT? I DON'T, I WE KNOW HOW THIS WOULD COMPARE WITH SAY A TYPICAL [00:15:01] ONE. SO WE, WE'VE, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO INVOLVE IN SEVERAL OF THESE. I THINK IT'S, IT'S KIND OF COMMON TO SEE FACILITIES OF THIS SIZE. I THINK OUR TOTAL SQUARE FOOT IS ABOUT ABOUT 116,000 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY IF YOU INCLUDE THE OUTSIDE THE, OUT THE, THE UNITS ON THE OUTSIDE AT GRADE. SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WITH THAT KIND OF A SITUATION, I THINK YOUR CAR, YOUR CODE IS MUCH MORE CONSERVATIVE ON PARKING THAN THE ITE. SO I THINK WE'D WIND UP WITH MORE PARKING SPACES THAN WHAT THE IT T INSTITUTE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS USUALLY USES ONE FOR 10,000. UM, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE MORE MANY. I THINK YOU'RE CLOSER TO ONE FOR 15,000, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT OFF THE TOP. I MIGHT BE MISSPEAKING UNDER FIVE AND 5,000. SORRY. THE OTHER WAY. THE OTHER WAY. RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, AND WE ARE GONNA COMPLY WITH THAT AND WE'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN TRAFFIC ISSUES COME UP WITH ANY OF THESE FACILITIES THAT WE'VE HAD. WE'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT. YEAH. AND, AND, AND I THINK IN THIS SITUATION IT'S EVEN, IT ALSO FREES UP THE REST OF THE CORPORATE CENTER RIGHT? TO, WITH THEIR FUTURE USES BECAUSE IT'S ALL SHARED PARKING PURSUANT TO A LARGE RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT. UM, GOING BACK TO, YOU KNOW, TARRYTOWN CORPORATE CENTER TWO, THREE, AND FOUR, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION REALLY FOR, FOR GARY. YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT OUR CODE DOESN'T ALLOW, UM, UH, CONVERSION OF COMMERCIAL, UH, TO OH, NO, NO, IT WASN'T THE CODE. WE HAVE A COVENANT, I'M SORRY IF YOU MI I MAY HAVE MISSPOKEN. WE HAVE A COVENANT IN THE DEED THAT WE TOOK TO THAT SAID WE CAN'T USE, WE, WE CAN'T USE THIS FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES BECAUSE I, I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UH, AND YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST THINKING OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DAY THAT I KNOW TARRYTOWN NOW IS CONVERTING SOME OF THE, UH, EMPTY, UH, OFFICES TO, UM, UH, RESIDENTIAL. AND I SORT OF THINK IT'S ALMOST, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THIS IS SUCH A OBVIOUS, UH, FOR OTHER PEOPLE. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE THAT RESTRICTIVE COVENANT ON, ON ON THIS PROPERTY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING A LOOK AT IN TERMS OF WELL IF, IF, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE'S A RESTRICTIVE COVER NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR OTHER PROPERTY FOR NO, GARRETT AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION FOR A COUPLE YEARS. WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION LOOKING AT THESE OFFICE PARKS AND HE HAS BEEN RESEARCHING TO SEE WHAT WILL BE, WHO WILL BE OPEN TO DO THAT. SO THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN ONGOING. NO, I KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. NO, NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, GUYS, I'M NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THE SUPERVISOR'S QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS, TRYING TO LOCATE THESE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN CHANGE THESE OFFICE PARKS INTO RESIDENTIAL AREA. THIS IS, I SEE THIS, I SAW THIS IN THE SOUTH, SO I'M, I'M USED TO THIS TYPE OF CONCEPT. CONCEPT AND ALSO, SO THAT'S WHY I'M DONE, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. I'M NOT SURE, GARRETT, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, ON WHITE PLAINS ROAD, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THE COVENANT EXTENDS TO ALL OF THE OFFICE CHILDRENS. NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST AS FAR, I ONLY KNOW ABOUT OUR PROPERTY. SO, AND ALSO WHO IS YOUR, YOU HAVE THE SELF, OH, YOU COULD GO FIRST. I'M SORRY. THE, THE MARKET THAT YOU EXPECT, UM, TO APPEAL TO BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OTHER SELF-STORAGE, UH, UNITS. YOU KNOW, I I I THINK WITHOUT SOUNDING TOO JOCULAR AND, AND MAG MAG YUSEF HAS JOINED US. HE'S A PRINCIPAL IN, IN, IN IN THE ENTITY AND THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF. BUT I, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE, HAVE FOUND THAT REALLY THESE FACILITIES ARE FOLLOWING APARTMENTS. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER AND THE SIZE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF APARTMENTS. THEY'RE GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER. UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ABSORPTION RATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN WHITE PLAINS AND TARRYTOWN AND YONKERS, YOU, YOU ALL SIT IN A, I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR ROADWAYS, YOU'VE DONE YOUR COMP PLAN A FEW TIMES, SEVEN FEET PAST FEW YEARS. YOU SIT AT A CONFLUENCE AS WELL OF ROADWAYS. SO ACCESS IN TO GET TO THIS FACILITY, ACCESS OUT. AND THEN YOU HAVE SO MANY APARTMENTS AND WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN A 900 SQUARE FOOT TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES TO PUT WHATEVER YOUR TOYS OR YOUR AVOCATIONAL THINGS ARE. AND, AND THAT, AND THEN, SO THAT'S, I THINK VERY OFTEN IN THE ACTUAL FACILITY, THE BUILDING, I THINK WHAT WE'VE ALSO EXPERIENCED IS THE OUTSIDE UNITS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE REALLY GREAT FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT FOR THE CONTRACTORS AND THE SUBCONTRACTORS WHO LIVE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE, SORRY, I I, I GUESS I WAS TALKING ABOUT GEOGRAPHICALLY SINCE THERE ARE OTHER STORAGE, MANY OTHER STORAGE UNITS IN THE TOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED FOR, FOR THEIR BUSINESS AS WELL. SO, BUT IF YOU'RE APPEALING TO A MARKET THAT IS NOT AS ACCESSIBLE, THAT IS REALLY WHAT WAS THE QUESTION IS ABOUT. YEAH, I, I, YEAH. WELL, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. SO IF YOU MAY ALLOW ME TO ANSWER THIS, IF YOU MAY ALLOW ME TO ANSWER THIS, UH, WE HAVE A CROSS STREET. I'M SORRY. SORRY. YOU REALLY HAVE TO TALK 'CAUSE IT NEEDS TO GO OUT. YOU CAN. SO IF YOU MAY ALLOW ANSWER THIS, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, THERE IS A SURFACE STORAGE ACROSS STREET. IT'S [00:20:01] 95% CAPACITY NOW. AND, UH, IT JUST SPELLED COUPLE YEARS AGO. IT'S NOTHING LONG. AND WE LOOKED AT THE MARKET ANALYSIS BEFORE WE DECIDE THIS, UH, AS, AS ALL THE TEAM DECIDE, UH, DISCUSSED HERE. WE HAVE RESTRICTION FOR, WE HAVE THE RESTRICTION FOR HOTELS, WE HAVE RESTRICTION FOR, UM, EDUCATION USE. WE HAVE A RESTRICTION FOR ANYTHING. AND THE BUILDING IS VACANT FOR YEARS AS AN OFFICE AND WE'RE TRYING TO OCCUPY IT. WE LIST IT MANY TIMES AND NOTHING THERE. BUT WE, WE LOOKED AT THE MARKET FOR SURFACE STORAGE AND IT'S STILL UNRATED MARKET AND WE HAVE, UH, ANALYSIS FOR THAT. AND THERE IS A LOT, A LOT OF DEMAND OF THAT AREA DUE TO ALL THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, UH, UH, CONSTRUCTED NEWLY OR THE, THE NEW HOTELS, OR I'M SORRY, NEW, UM, UH, LIVING ASSISTED BUILDINGS AROUND US. AND THERE IS COUPLE, UH, COMPLEX OF, UH, NEW RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. UM, I'M AN ENGINEER, UH, BY TRADES AND I, I WORK IN WHITE PLAINS AND MANY, MANY COMPLEX BUILDINGS, UH, CONSTRUCTED HERE. UH, AND I, I KNOW HOW MUCH CAPACITY AROUND US, WE DID THE ANALYSIS. WE ARE STILL, THERE IS A LOT OF DEMAND OF, UM, OF SELF STORAGE AROUND THE AREA HERE. MM-HMM . ANOTHER QUESTION IS, UH, YOU CAN GO. THANK YOU. UM, I'M NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED THAT IT'LL TAKE BUSINESS FROM OTHER STORAGE FACILITIES, BUT IF YOU'RE DOING THE ANALYSIS THAT THE MARKET IS NOT SATURATED, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND I, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS A STORAGE UNIT MYSELF, UM, I KNOW IT IS FOR, FOR THOSE OF US WHO DOWNSIZE FROM HOMES INTO APARTMENTS, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT. BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO INVEST IN SOMETHING THEN THAT YOU CAN'T FILL. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER EMPTY BUILDING, RIGHT? YES. CORRECT. DO YOU HAVE ILLUSTRATION? LIKE A I KNOW THAT MANY OF THIS, UH, SELF-STORAGE FACILITIES LOOK REALLY NICE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE, THE ONES IN GREENBURG? UH, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT DO YOU HAVE LIKE, AND SO WE COULD SEE A RENDERING WITH LIKE RENDER RENDERING, PLANTINGS AND SOME SORT OF A PLANTINGS. YOU'VE SHOWN EXTERIOR, SOME TREES THERE. I MEAN, I, I THINK RIGHT NOW, AND PAUL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, RIGHT? THIS IS A PRE-APPLICATION, SO THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK FOR US TO RECEIVE. I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO LEAVE EVERYTHING SORT OF THE WAY IT IS. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, UM, MATURE PLANTINGS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THERE. UM, WE ARE COM WE ARE CIRCULATING. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID A GREAT JOB. SO WE ARE LITERALLY, YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY ALMOST GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TOWARDS ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE STOP AND SHOP PROBABLY AS YOU COME IN MM-HMM . AND THEN YOU COME, YOU SWING AROUND THE BACK TO GO TO OUR BUILDING. YOU BE SHOWING THE STREET VIEW OR JUST THE ABOVE? THAT'S AERIAL. LET'S, WE ONLY HAVE AN AERIAL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS SO FAR BACK WE WEREN'T REALLY PLANNING ON, AND SOMEONE ON THE TEAM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MAKING REALLY ANY CHANGES IN FRONT. SO WHERE IS THE STOP AND SHOP IN RELATION TO, UH, OFF TO THE PAGE, RIGHT? BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WES EAST CAME, AND THIS WAS YEARS AGO BECAUSE I, I REMEMBER, UH, THE PRESENTATION, THEY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE SUCH A REALLY NICE LOOKING BUILDING, UM, AND IT WOULD BE AN ENHANCEMENT. AND YOU, THEY KEPT THEIR WORD AND YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS REALLY ATTRACTIVE. AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, A GOOD USE. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GONNA, IT'S GONNA GENERATE TAXES. IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO, THERE'S PRACTICALLY NO SERVICES THE TOWN HAS TO PROVIDE. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I SEE NO NEGATIVES, BUT I BASICALLY, BUT I ALSO FEEL THAT IF, LET'S SAY WE ALLOW HOUSING, RESIDENTIAL, UH, IN THE AREA, AND IF WE COULD LIKE, MAKE IT LOOK NICER, THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THEN IT WILL BECOME A, YOU KNOW, A MUCH, YOU KNOW, GREATER ASSET TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S, THAT'S MY FEELING. AND, AND I, I THINK THAT WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, BRING TONIGHT IS WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING LOOKS LIKE. RIGHT. JUST SHOW US SOME PHOTOS AND, AND SEE, FRANKLY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW GIVEN HOW MATURE IT IS, WHAT KIND OF UNDER PLANTING WE CAN DO WITH SHRUBS OR ANYTHING LIKE MM-HMM . WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU KNOW, BUT IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO, UH, AS ALL OF US AWARE HERE, THIS IS, THIS BUILDING IS PART OF, UH, LARGE COMPLEX OF, UH, SIX OR EIGHT BUILDINGS AND ALL THE PLANTS ARE EXISTING AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLANTS THERE AND THERE IS PUSHUPS AND AROUND THE BUILDINGS AND NICE, COLORFUL, IT'S ALL UNDER, UH, ADMINISTRATION OF THE ASSOCIATION TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND, AND, AND CLEAN IT AND MAKE IT NICE LOOKING. I, I PERSONALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. IF THE TOWN ASKED US FOR PLANTING AND I WAS JUST IMITATING IN THAT AND SAY IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOOKING AS OF NOW, AND IF, IF WE ADD ANYTHING, WE HAVE TO IMPACT THE VIEW OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX BECAUSE THEY HAVE IT ALL CONSISTING IN THE, AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING AND AROUND LOOKING. I'M WILLING TO DO WHATEVER THE TIME REQUIRED, BUT HONESTLY I SEE IT, [00:25:01] IT'S, IT'S VERY NICE LOOKING THERE. OH NO, IT'S REALLY ASKING. SO IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE PHOTOS, PHOTOS, PHOTOS YOU GET, YOU HAVE, YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. WE DIDN'T ANOTHER AREA. AND I THINK THE ONLY OTHER PIECE THAT'S OUT THERE IS THAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO WHEN WE MAKE OUR FORMAL APPLICATION. OH, YOU'RE GONNA, THANK YOU. YOU'RE GONNA HELP ME WITH THAT. THANK YOU. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE WALKWAY. PURSUANT TO OUR RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ESSENTIALLY MOVE THE LOT LINE, UM, FROM A REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE TO BASICALLY OUR, OUR BUILDING THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE SELF STORAGE IN TO MAKE THAT THE PROPERTY LINE AND PUT THAT WALKWAY BUILDING BACK ON THE OTHER, UM, PROPERTY. SO IF, IF YOU, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THERE'S, THERE ARE TWO TALLER BUILDINGS AND THERE'S A WALKWAY CONNECTING IT. RIGHT NOW, THE PROPERTY LINE SITS WHERE THE LOW SLUNG BUILDING IS ON ONE SIDE, WE'RE BASICALLY GONNA MOVE, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE IT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY A LITTLE AOT LINE ADJUSTMENT GIVEN HOW OLD THE BUILDING C ARE. UM, THAT WILL TAKE WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY A LOT OF LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES AND CREATE A LOT OF VARIANCES, BUT WON'T ACTUALLY LEAD TO ANY CHANGE IN PHYSICAL STRUCTURES. SO, UM, WHEN WE COME IN FOR THE FORMAL APPLICATION, THAT MAY BE PART OF THE ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK, AT WHICH POINT WE GO FROM MEETING WITH YOU ALL FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT AND SITE PLAN TO THE TRIFECTA. WE'LL BE IN FRONT OF EVERY BOARD TO EFFECTUATE THAT WITH THE SUBDIVISION FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE VARIANCES WITH THE ZONING BOARD. GREAT. SO THANK YOU. BUT I JUST WANNA AT LEAST LET YOU KNOW, SO IT WOULDN'T BE, AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE EVEN REFERENCED IT IN OUR COVER LETTER, UM, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF, UM, I CAN BE CON COMPELLING AND CONVINCING THAT WE CAN USE THE ADAPTIVE REUSE SECTION IN SEEKER TO MAKE THIS TYPE TWO. BUT THAT'S FOR A FUTURE CONVERSATION. I HAVE A FEELING. SO THIS CONVERSATION CAME WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR BECAUSE THESE TWO BUILDINGS WAS OWNED BY ONE OWNER AND THEY SOLD THE LOT EIGHT TO US. OH, PUT, WOULD YOU PUT PUT IT BACK BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. YEAH. UH, THE, THE TWO BUILDINGS WAS OWNED BY ONE, UH, OWNER AND THE, UH, THE OWNER WAS MANAGING THIS BUILDING AND BOTH BUILDING ARE LOCATED IN TWO LOTS, EIGHT ON NINE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN LOT NINE PART OF IT ACROSS THE, THE, UH, PROPERTY LINE AND LOCATED IN LOT EIGHT. AND THE, THE DISCUSSION CAME WHEN WE SIT DOWN WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR ABOUT THIS LAND IS, IS, IS OWNED BY ANOTHER OWNER AND IT'S LOCATED BY HELPING ANOTHER BUILDING. AND IT'S LOCATED IN OUR LOT. AND SHE SAID, UNLESS YOU FILE RED DROVE THE LOT LINE, TAKE AWAY OF THAT PART AND, AND GIVE IT TO THEM. WE WILL WORK THE ASSESSMENT. SO IT'S NOTHING RELATED TO THE SURFACE STORAGE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF BECAUSE WE ARE CONTENT INSIDE THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING. WE'RE NOT GOING OUTSIDE. AND HOWEVER, UH, I'M ASSUMING IT WILL CAUSE SOME SMALL VARIANCES HERE, BUT CLEAR SOME EXISTING CONDITION. GREAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU SEND THE RENDERINGS TO TOWN CLERK SO I CAN PUT IT IN THE RECORD? YES, YES. TOWN CLERK, WE HAVE THEM. I, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. APPRECIATE. YEAH, WE'LL GRAB FROM THAT. OKAY. YEAH. AND JUST, JUST TO BUILD ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON'S SUPERVISOR FIGHTER, YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT. WE NEED TO, AS A TOWN, WE ALL NEED TO CONTINUALLY LEARN ABOUT THE OFFICE MARKET, HOW IT'S TRULY DECLINING, HOW THESE VACANCIES WILL PERSIST WITHOUT ACTION. AND MAYBE THERE IS THE PROSPECT FOR, UH, OTHER USES SUCH AS RESIDENTIAL IN THE OFFICE BUILDING. SO, UM, THAT ULTIMATELY, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE VETTED THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, UH, WHICH WOULD PAINT POTENTIALLY A PATH FOR, UH, UPDATED VISION FOR, UH, THE OFFICE BUILDING DISTRICT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LEAD TO DIFFERENT RESULTS FOR OTHER BUILDINGS. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS, WE COULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, MORE GREEN, UH, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY. I'M JUST THINKING, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A PARKING AREA AND WE COULD PUT AN ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS, OR WE COULD DO THE SOLAR, UH, PARKING CANOPIES, WHICH THEY HAVE IN SOME COLLEGES. AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT AT A VETERAN PARK BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, WHEN PEOPLE ARE, I MEAN, IF WE CAN MAKE THIS EVEN MORE SPECIAL, UM, WHERE WE COULD BE A MO YOU KNOW, A MODEL FOR, UM, SUSTAINABILITY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY GREAT. WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. THE TOWN HAS A LEAD CHECKLIST REQUIREMENT. SURE. SO PERFECT YOU TO SHOW, UM, THAT THE PROJECT, THIS IS MY LEAD AP AGAIN, YOU LIKE THE, DO YOU LIKE THE IDEA? I BELIEVE YOU READ MY MIND BECAUSE WHEN WE, WE ACQUIRED THIS BUILDING, I TRIED TO PUT, UH, UH, AN EV CHARGER IN THE PARKING LOT, BUT THAT PARKING LOT, IT'S OWNED BY LOT EIGHT AND IT'S UNDER EASEMENT AGREEMENT WAS LOT NINE AND LINE EIGHT [00:30:01] AND UNDER EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE WHOLE ASSOCIATION AND COMPLEX. SO I STARTED WITH GETTING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS TO DO, UH, AV CHARGER AND IT WAS IN CONFLICT THERE. AND HE'S RESISTING. AND I HAVE THE, I HAVE THE PROPOSAL, I HAVE EVERYTHING TO POUR IT IN BEFORE EVEN THE SURFACE STORAGE TWO YEARS AGO. AND I HAVE RESISTANCE FROM THE, THE, THE ASSOCIATIONS AND RESISTANCE FROM THE NEIGHBORING BUILDING. SO I'M WILLING TO DO, BUT IF, IF THE TOWN FACILITATOR OR OF THE ASSOCIATION AGREED, I'M WILLING TO DO THE, UM, EV CHARGER OR EVEN THE SOLAR BAND SYSTEM, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. SEE THAT. THEN I FEEL, TO ME, THEN I FEEL I COULD BE LIKE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL, UH, UM, BECAUSE I, I SORT OF FEEL THEN WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S EVEN MORE SPECIAL AND COULD BE, UM, THAT COULD MOTIVATE OTHER, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THE SAME THING. I, I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH PARKING THAT IS ALL OVER THE TOWN THAT WE COULD U YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE A MODEL FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES. YES, I AGREE. SO, GOOD. SO NOW THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EXCITED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. WE NEED YOUR HOUSE MOVE, BUT WE'LL DO IT HERE. IF YOU WANNA, UH, REACH OUT TO ME, I'LL, AND TELL ME WHO THE OTHER NEIGHBOR LIVED OR I COULD GIVE YOU MY CARD. AND THAT'S A GREAT START HERE. THANK YOU. THIS IS, THANK YOU. MY CARD HERE, SIR. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. GREAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE EMAIL, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING? YEAH. MM-HMM . GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. DO YOU WANT A BUSINESS CARD? OH, I NEED ANOTHER ONE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE US TO PUT SOME OF THE CHAIR? I'LL TAKE IT. THAT'S, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT. SO, OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE HAVE THE BACK DOOR PICK UP, UM, RE UH, REQUEST FOR, UM, UH, PAPER AND CO-MINGLED, UM, YOU KNOW, RECYCLING, UM, FOR, UH, THE DISABLED RESIDENTS. IT'S SOMEWHAT SIMILAR OR MOTIVATED BY WHAT WE DO FOR GARBAGE PICKUP, BUT THIS COULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU PUT TOGETHER, LIZ. OH, SURE. UM, SO THE PROGRAM WAS INITIALLY PUT TOGETHER BY THE BOARD IN 2009 AND CONSISTED OF A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE TWO CRITERIA, UM, IF YOU WERE SEEKING A WAIVER. ONE WAS THAT YOU HAD A MEDICAL WAIVER FROM A DOCTOR, AND THE SECOND WAS THAT YOU HAD A FINANCIAL NEED, WHICH WAS A THRESHOLD OF AN INCOME OF $36,000. AND THAT WAS TO GET THE WAIVER, TO GET THE BACKDOOR PICKUP, YOU WOULD HAVE TO JUST HAVE THE MEDICAL AND THEN PAY $300 IF YOU WEREN'T SEEKING THE WAIVER OVER, OVER TIME, UM, SINCE 2009, ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS IN DPW, THAT REQUIREMENT WENT FROM A FEE WAIVER, UM, TO, IF YOU HAD A MEDICAL NEED, YOU DIDN'T PAY A FEE AND, UM, PEOPLE WERE JUST PAYING FEES THAT DIDN'T HAVE A MEDICAL NEED. SO IT BECAME A CONVENIENCE, UM, PICKUP FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST PAYING $300 A YEAR THAT DO NOT HAVE A MEDICAL NEED AND CAN BRING THEIR GARBAGE TO THE CURB. UM, ALSO TO POINT OUT IN 2009, GARBAGE CANS DIDN'T HAVE THE WHEELS ON THEM THAT THE TOWN NOW HAS. SO CERTAIN PEOPLE, UM, THEIR REQUIREMENTS MAY BE LESS. UM, THE TOWN ALSO OFFERS DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANS SIZES. THERE'S 95 GALLONS, 35 GALLONS, SO SOME PEOPLE MAY BE ABLE TO, UM, MOVE SMALLER CANS. UM, THERE'S ALSO A CONSIDERATION, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH BOTH THE SANITATION FOREMAN, UM, TYRO HARBOR AND TIM BROWN. ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE SAFETY OF THE SANITATION WORKERS. AND THAT IS GOING TO PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, HAVING A TRIP AND FALL, UM, HAVING AN ACCIDENT. UM, UH, YOU GET INTO INTERACTIONS SOMETIMES WITH RESIDENTS, UM, AND THEIR SAFETY OF TRAVERSING THE DRIVEWAY. SO WHAT MY SUGGESTION IS TO LOOK AT THE REFUSE COLLECTION PROGRAM AND TO HAVE THE TOWN BOARD PROVIDE DPW WITH GUIDANCE ON THE POLICY THAT THE TOWN BOARD WANTS TO ADOPT. IT INCLUDES RECYCLING, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE SO FAR, GET IT PUT TOGETHER AND THEN SEE IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND THAT. UM, FINANCIALLY, UH, JUST TO, I PUT THIS IN THE EMAIL, BUT JUST FOR PEOPLE LISTENING, [00:35:01] THERE'S 77 PARTICIPANTS CURRENTLY PICK UP IS ONE TIME A WEEK. IF WE ARE GOING TO ADD RECYCLING, IT WOULD BE THREE TIMES A WEEK BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO COMMINGLED AND PAPER, WHICH HAVE PICKED UP SEPARATELY. UM, 75 OF THE 77 ARE RESIDENCES. ONE IS A CHURCH AND ONE IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. UH, THERE'S 4,004 COLLECTION VISITS ANNUALLY. ONLY 27 OF THE PARTICIPANTS CURRENTLY ARE PAYING THE $300 FEE. THE ANNUAL REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED IS 8,100. THE OPERATING COST IS 59,800. SO IT'S BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF $51,000 AND $51,700. SO A SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR AN ANALYSIS TO BE MADE AND MAYBE THE FEE GOES UP FROM 300, UM, TO A LARGER AMOUNT UNLESS THERE IS A FINANCIAL NEED. UM, SO, AND ALSO TO COLLECT, COLLECT FEES FROM THOSE OTHER HOUSEHOLDS, UM, AND CHURCH AND WHAT WOULD CAN RATIONAL FOR A CHURCH AND A COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT WAS IN THE EVER PART OF THE INITIAL RESOLUTION. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WAS ADDED. IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH PEOPLE THAT HAD DISABILITIES. YEAH, SURE. UM, SO, AND IT SHOULD GO BACK TO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. UM, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT THERE'S A PERSON IN A HOUSEHOLD THAT HAS A DISABILITY. IT SHOULD BE THAT THERE'S NO PERSON IN THE HOUSE THAT'S ABLE TO DO IT IN THE HOUSEHOLD. THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. RIGHT. UM, YEAH, IT WAS ANY, ANY MEMBER RESIDING IN THE, THE HOME WAS UNABLE TO BRING THE GARBAGE TO THE, TO THE CURB OR THE, IN THIS CASE, THE RECYCLING BIN. UM, OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND. IF THERE ARE MEMBERS IN THE HOUSEHOLD WHO DON'T HAVE, WHO ARE NOT DISABLED, WHO CAN BRING THE GARBAGE TO THE PARK. I ASSUME, I ASSUME YOU WOULD EXPLAIN THAT THERE HAS TO BE A SEPARATE ROUTE WITH SEPARATE TRUCKS IN ORDER TO DO THIS AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. OH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET INTO THAT. I DID ASK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY, THEY DO HAVE TRUCKS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT COMPARTMENTS. I ASKED THE SANITATION FORM AND IF THAT'S FEASIBLE. THEY'VE HAD THOSE TRUCKS IN THE PAST, THEY DON'T WORK. THEY GET, UH, JAMMED IN OTHER ISSUES. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE, UM, DIFFERENT ROUTES WITH THE THREE DIFFERENT, THREE DIFFERENT PICKUPS. UM, SO LAUDABLY, UH, GREENBURG IS ONE OF THE FEW MUNICIPALITIES, UM, THAT OFFERS BACKDOOR PICKUP. UH, WE CALLED THE OTHER VILLAGES, UM, IN THE TOWN. THEY DO NOT OFFER THE SERVICE. THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES IS FOR ALL RESIDENTS IS THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE. UM, MOUNT PLEASANT OFFERS IT, BUT IT'S THROUGH A PRIVATE CARTER AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE BACKDOOR PICKUP. MM-HMM . SO GREENBURG IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT DOES OFFER THAT TO, UM, DISABLED RESIDENTS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD, I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. MY CONCERN IS BASICALLY, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM REVIEWING OUR CURRENT LAW. UM, BUT I BASICALLY AM VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN, THERE'S TWO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME, TWO FAMILY, THEY BOTH HAVE SEVERE DISABILITIES AND YOU KNOW, UH, THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT OFFERING A BACKDOOR PICKUP OF PAPER, WHICH IS HEAVIER, YOU KNOW, CARDBOARD AND COMMINGLED IS REALLY A MAJOR, MAJOR QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, CONCERN. SO I'M WONDERING IF, UM, FOR STARTERS, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE BOARD IS REVIEW, I DON'T WANNA WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT BECAUSE WE, THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR A COUPLE MONTHS ALREADY. UM, OR, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN PROBABLY HALF A YEAR. I'M WONDERING IF, UM, WE COULD AS A BOARD SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, THE BACK DOOR PICKUP FOR PAPER, CARDBOARD COMMINGLED WILL BE OFFERED, SAY TO ANYONE WHO PAYS, UM, A FEE, UH, IF THEY'RE DISABLED, IF BOTH, IF EVERYBODY IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD IS DISABLED, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE, AND, BUT, BUT I'M SORRY, PAUL, BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY NO, BUT I'M TALKING NO, NO, NO. HEAR, HEAR ME OUT. THAT'S CURRENTLY LIZ, THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE RESOLUTION AS, AS HE JUST DESCRIBED, CORRECT? NO, IT JUST HASN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED. NO, NO. THIS IS NOT FOR RECYCLING. IT HASN'T, WE WE DON'T OFFER IT TO ANYBODY. WE DON'T OFFER ANY, UH, BACKDOOR PICKUP FOR PAPER OR, OR MINGLE. SO ALL I'M SAYING IS IF WE WOULD SAY WHILE WE'RE REVIEWING OUR EXISTING, UM, YOU KNOW, POLICY RELATING TO GARBAGE, WHICH YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL HAS BEEN MISUSED, WE COULD STILL REVIEW THAT. BUT RATHER THAN MAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE FRAIL, ELDERLY, DISABLED, THEY'RE REALLY STRUGGLING EVERY TIME, UH, THEY HAVE PAPER OR, UM, OR UM, CARDBOARD OR COMMINGLED. UM, BECAUSE PAPER ISN'T ON WHEELS, YOU KNOW, THE, AND THEN THE CARDBOARD IS NOT ON WHEELS. SO IF WE COULD BASICALLY JUST SAY, UM, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, UM, [00:40:01] UH, WHILE WE'RE REVIEWING EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, THE TOWN WOULD OFFER, UM, THE SERVICE, UH, TO ANYBODY, PROVIDED EVERYONE IN THEIR FAMILY, UM, IS DISABLED. OKAY. AND HAS A DOCTOR. SO HOW, HOW, HOW WOULD YOU CLARIFY THAT? CAN'T THE PAPER COMMINGLE, WHY CAN'T THE CO-MINGLE BE ON WHEELS? THE COMMINGLED IS ON WHEELS, BUT THE PAPER IS NOT THE PAPER. THE PAPER NOT, WHY CAN'T THE PAPER BE ON WHEELS? WE DON'T, THE PAPER, WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T OFFER CONTAINERS ON WHEELS FOR AT THIS JUNCTURE. COULD WE? OH, WOULD, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN, WE CAN RECOMMEND AND GO BACK TO THE SANITATION, YOU KNOW, TO SEE HOW THE PICKUP IS. IT'S, THE THING IS, THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BEST IT. I WOULD LIKE FIGURE, LIKE BEFORE WE MAKE THAT TYPE, THAT'S GONNA BE, THE BOXES ARE BIG AND BASICALLY THAT'S GONNA BE AN EXTRA COST. BUT MY GUT, GUT FEELING IS JUST SAID THAT HE WOULD, SHE WOULD LOOK IN. SHE WOULD CONTACT, YEAH, BECAUSE SHE, TO LOOK INTO THAT THE BOXES NEED BE BROKEN DOWN. CAN I, CAN I, WELL, I'M, WAIT, LEMME JUST SAY ALL I'M ASKING. THERE'S PROBABLY LESS THAN A DOZEN PEOPLE WHO WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. UH, UH, IF WE BASICALLY OFF JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM, UM, AND THEY CAN'T GET THEIR PAPER OR COMMINGLED AND THEY PAY THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, WE COULD USE THE SAME $300, BUT WE COULD FOR RIGHT NOW, THEN WE COULD SAY STARTING NEXT WEEK. UM, IF THEY PAY THE $300, GIVE GET GIVES US A DOCTOR'S NOTE, WE'LL OFFER IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT'S NOT GOING TO, UH, BE AN ENORMOUS EXPENSE. IT'S GONNA BE AN, UH, A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR, UH, DPW AND WON'T BE MAKING A MAJOR QUALITY OF LIFE, UM, UM, IMPROVEMENT FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING. OKAY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT THOUGH. WHAT ARE THOSE WANNA TALK? WHAT ARE THOSE PEOPLE? WHAT I DID WAS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE, GO AHEAD. AND THAT WAS ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT, UM, WHAT PAUL WAS SUGGESTING. IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO, ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF INTERIM AGREEMENT WHERE WE WOULD BE CHARGING A FEE FOR THE SERVICE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT, WOULD IT, THAT THE FEE WOULD CHANGE ITS TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO? I WOULD SUGGEST PASSING A POLICY VIA RESOLUTION JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR. SO COULD WE PUT IT ON RIGHT, BUT IS THAT THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK? JUST SAYING THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS YET. NO, BUT THE, THE, YEAH, THE PROPOSAL IS BASICALLY, OKAY. $300. STILL HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD A QUESTION. SO WHAT CURRENTLY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO GET THE GARBAGE PICKUP DOING ABOUT THEIR RECYCLING? THOSE WHO CAN'T, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BRINGING IT TO THE CURB TO, FOR PICKUP. SO THEY CAN BRING, OR SOME, SOMEHOW THEY'RE GETTING IT TO THE CURB FOR PICKUP. SO HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO GET IT TO THE CURB FOR PICKUP AND NOT GET THEIR GARBAGE TO THE CURB? I DUNNO. WELL, I JUST TOOK WHEELS, . WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD. MAYBE THEY HAD PEOPLE COMING TO HELP THEM, I'M NOT SURE. BUT NOT FOR GARBAGE. YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THE TWO WOULD GO TOGETHER AND ALL THESE YEARS IT WOULD'VE BEEN AN ISSUE ABOUT THIS. IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE STRANGE . UNLESS THEY'RE NOT RECYCLING, PERHAPS THEY'RE NOT THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE AS WELL. RIGHT. BUT I THINK STARTING WITH THE CANS, WITH THE, WITH THE WHEELS IS A GOOD PLACE. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF, SO WHAT'S THE PROCESS GOING TO BE? SO IS THERE GOING TO BE AN APPLICATION? THERE'S GOING TO BE, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO MONITOR THIS AND WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE? SO WHAT MY, MY SUGGESTION IS JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE, THERE SHOULD BE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD. THERE HAS TO BE ANNUAL RECERTIFICATIONS. WE SHOULD REQUIRE QUARTERLY ENROLLMENTS SO PEOPLE ARE NOT STUCK WAITING FOR YEAR TO ENROLL. SO WE CAN HAVE ROLLING ENROLLMENTS. MM-HMM . UM, THAT EVERYTHING THEN EXPIRES AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN THE ANNUAL RECERTIFICATION. UM, THERE HAS TO BE A ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK SOME THINGS FELL APART. UM, AND HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN? SO THAT WOULD BE MANAGED BY DPW. UM, THEY WOULD REVIEW THE, THE PROGRAM, MAKE SURE THE COST WITH THE SANITATION FOREMAN, UM, AND THAT THE AREAS THAT, ONE THING THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY ADDRESSED IS THE SAFETY OF THE WORKERS. OKAY. UM, WHICH THE SANITATION FOREMAN, UM, ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY CONCERNED WITH. AND STEEP SLOPE, STEEP DRIVEWAYS, UNSAFE, UM, ACCESS. WE WOULD NOT, WE, THEY WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR BACKDOOR PICKUP WHETHER THEY HAVE A MEDICAL NEED OR NOT. WELL, PRESUMABLY IF THEY HAVE A MEDICAL NEED THAT WOULD NOT BE LIVING IN A LOCATION, PERHAPS IT HAD A, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD MAKE IT DANGEROUS FOR THEM. YEAH. THAT, SO THAT THERE'S A, A COUPLE OF THOSE. SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LIABILITY FOR, FOR, UM, EMPLOYEES GOING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? HOW IS THAT, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE WORKED OUT? CAN INCLUDE A HOLD HARMLESS WITH THE PERMIT APPLICATION. OKAY. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE RECORDS. WHAT WE, WE HAVE TO ASCERTAIN WHAT ADDITIONAL, UH, COSTS THAT WOULD, [00:45:01] UM, ADD TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF OUR, SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY REQUEST IS THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD, UM, WE COULD HAVE A TEMPORARY RESOLUTION JUST STEALING WITH THE COMMINGLED AND THE PAPER, UM, RECYCLING AND THE POLICY WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE $300, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE CHANGED THE RULES FOR EVERYBODY AND, UH, AND BOTH, UM, AND ALL RESIDENTS OF A HOUSEHOLD WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, DISABLED AND PROVIDE US WITH LIKE A DOCTOR'S NOTE. SO IT IS REALLY GONNA BE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE PROBABLY. BUT THOSE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A BIG QUALITY OF LIFE DIFFERENCE. AND YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY THE $300, YOU KNOW, THEN, YOU KNOW, WELL IF THEY CAN'T. SO I GUESS, I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE, WHY, WHY ARE WE SEPARATING THE PROCESS IF WE CAN DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME? MONTHS. 'CAUSE THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE FOREVER. I'M, IT'S GONNA BE DELAYED AND DELAYED AND DELAYED. IT'S SO WE HAVE AN SIX MONTHS, I'LL LET YOU FINISH THE QUESTION. I'LL LET YOU FINISH. OKAY. I, MY FAILING IS THAT, WOULD YOU LET HER FINISH THE QUESTION PLEASE? OKAY. CAN I, I CAN, YOU CAN FINISH. SO I WANNA KNOW, WHY DO WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THE PROCESS? WHY CAN'T WE DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME AND AND IMPLEMENT IT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF BREAKING THE PROCESS UP? IF IT, AND I JUST ASKED THE TOWN ATTORNEY, HOW LONG COULD THAT PROCESS TAKE? SO WHY CAN'T WE JUST CHECK THE BOX AND FINISH IT? WHY DO WE HAVE TO SEPARATE NOW WE DO IT FOR GARBAGE, THEN WE DO IT FOR THE CO-MINGLES AND, AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF. WHY CAN'T WE JUST DO IT ONE TIME AND THEN WE JUST POST IT? AND THAT'S GOING FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S OUR NEW PROCESS. BECAUSE I THINK LIZ HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITH THE GARBAGE AND THEN APPLY THE SAME TO A CO-MINGLE RECYCLING CO. BUT WE REALLY CAN DO IT ALL AT ONCE. WE CAN DO IT ALL, ALL AT ONCE. UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME. COULD WHY WOULD THAT TAKE A LONG TIME? WELL, EVERYTHING TAKES A LONG TIME. IT'S JUST DRAFTING BECAUSE IT HAS TAKEN SIX MONTHS ALREADY THAT I'VE BEEN BRING THIS UP AT EVERY, PRACTICALLY EVERY WEEK. I SAY THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS. YES. NO, FOR, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT HASN'T BEEN SIX MONTHS SINCE YOU WROTE UP. THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO TURN LEFT. THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO TURN LEFT. I JUST ASKED A QUESTION. SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO THIS AT ONE TIME WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, WHICH POLICY'S IN PLACE, WHICH WE COULD JUST DO IT ONE TIME. MAKE IT A CLEAN, MAKE IT A CLEAN CHANGE SO LONG, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO PUT TOGETHER THE NEW POLICY? A NEW POLICY? I COULD DOVER VERY QUICKLY. COULD WE DO FOR NEXT WEEK? WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT, WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON? DON'T PLEASE DON'T COMMIT IT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. I CAN CERTAINLY TRY ABSOLUTELY NEED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THERE, WHAT I JUST WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE IS THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENJOYING BACKDOOR PICKUP THAT WILL NO LONGER QUALIFY. CORRECT. WELL, AND THAT WILL SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY. RIGHT. BUT, BUT, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE TO THEY DON'T HAVE NEED. NO. SO IT'S NOT PEOPLE WITH MEDICAL NEEDS. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST PAYING TO GET A CONVENIENT SERVICE THAT DO NOT HAVE A MEDICAL NEED. BUT THAT'S WHAT, NO MORE CONVENIENCE. THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I FEEL THAT IF WE BASICALLY SAID, UH, IF WE PA IF WE PASSED A RESOLUTION SAYING EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY WE'RE GONNA OFFER A BACKDOOR PICKUP FOR PAPER AND COMING TILL THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, BUT THAT'S, WELL LEMME JUST SAY TILL THE END OF THE YEAR THEN AT THE SAME TIME SINCE, UM, WE, YOU'RE GONNA BE CHANGING, UM, THE GARBAGE BACKDOOR PICKUP, WHICH IS GONNA BE CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE WHO BASICALLY ARE, ARE GETTING IT NOW AND NOT GONNA GET IT. SO IT COULD BE THAT THERE, THERE COULD BE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT BOARD MEETINGS COMPLAINING THAT THEY DON'T, IT'S UNFAIR. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? THEN WE'RE MOVING. THEN YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHY MOVING THEN BETWEEN NOW AND, UH, THE BUDGET TIME, UH, WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, MAKE ALL THE MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING. WE COULD SAY THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE, THE COMMUNITY COULD HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO COMMENT ON IT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL MAKE THE CHANGES. AND THEN, UM, AS OF JANUARY 1ST, WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, WE COULD, WE COULD BASICALLY SAY THIS IS THE POLICY GOING FORWARD. ALSO, THE, UM, THE POLICY THAT WE'VE HAD, PEOPLE MAY BE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT'S GONNA CONTINUE THE EXISTING POLICY TILL THE END OF, TILL THE END OF THE YEAR ANYWAY. SO, UM, WELL THAT'S NOT THE EXISTING POLICY THOUGH. NO, THE EXISTING POLICY IS BASICALLY YOUR MICROSOFT, THE EXISTING POLICY IS BASICALLY IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY OR THE RIGHT TO PAUL, YOU GET BY BACK DOOR PICKUP. THERE IS NO REAL STANDARD WE HAVE TO IMPOSE. THERE IS A REAL STANDARD. IT'S, THERE IS A STANDARD. ANYONE WHO, ANYONE WHO CONTACT US SAYS THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. THEY, THERE SHOULD BE SOME DOCUMENTATION. AND WHAT LIZ HAS FOUND OUT IS THAT LESS THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THIS THING. YEAH. BUT I'M THE ORIGINAL INTENT. I DON'T HAVE, THE POLICY, POLICY IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED. SO WE HAVE TO REESTABLISH THAT, REESTABLISH THE GOOD POLICY THAT YOU INITIALLY PUT OUT IN 2009 WITH THOSE PARAMETERS THAT REALLY QUALIFY YOU FOR IT. AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. [00:50:01] I JUST WANNA, CAN'T RANDOM THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS, THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, FRAIL, UH, DISABLED AND EVERY WEEK THAT GOES BY WITH WHEN IS, IS A STRUGGLE FOR THEM. UM, AND ALL I'M SAYING IS WE AS A TOWN BOARD IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF NO ONE'S ARGUING. NO ONE'S ARGUING WITH YOU. NO, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING SO WE'LL. CAN, CAN CAN LET ME FINISH BECAUSE, UM, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS WHILE WE'RE, UH, UH, DEALING WITH THE BACKDOOR CURRENT PICKUP POLICY, ALL I'M ASKING IS IF WE COULD HAVE, UM, A VERY MODIFIED TEMPORARY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, POLICY UNTIL WE WORK OUT ALL THE DETAILS AND SAY IF SOMEBODY IS FRAIL, ELDERLY, UH, EVERYBODY IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD, THEY GET A DOCTOR'S NOTE, EVERYBODY IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD, UM, HAS A DISABILITY, UM, AND GETS A DOCTOR'S NOTE AND THEY PAY THE $300, WE'RE GONNA OFFER IT EFFECTIVE NEXT WEEK. THAT IT'S NOT A BIG, IT'S NOT, IT'S, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANNA DO THAT. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. HOWEVER, HERE'S THE ISSUE. THERE'S NO ISSUES. NO. OKAY. WELL ACTUALLY THERE IS AN ISSUE, WHICH IS A PRACTICAL ONE, WHICH IS WE WOULD JUST BE ADDING ONTO THE CURRENT PROGRAM. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY THE STAFF TO JUST ADD ON IF WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO DON'T QUALIFY. RIGHT. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE MORE THAN, UH, HALF A DO I PREDICT THAT YOU'LL HAVE MAYBE 10 PEOPLE, UH, WHO ARE GONNA PARTICIPATE MAYBE LESS. IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT TRUCK THAT YOU HAVE TO SEND OUT. TOTALLY DIFFERENT TRUCK. THAT'S SO, SO DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GET THIS WORKED OUT BY THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER? FAMILY? I MEAN, I, FOR THE WHOLE THING. SUPPORTIVE OF THE TO WHY ARE YOU ACTING AS THOUGH WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE? WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. WE HAVE TO FIGURE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. YOU JUST DON'T JUST DO. SO DON'T EVER INSULT ME BY SAYING I DON'T SUPPORT THE DISABLED. DON'T DO THAT. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A DISABLED DAUGHTER. DON'T EVER SAY THAT TO ME. PLEASE. WELL, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY S SENSITIVE BUT EMPATHETIC OF THIS. SO I I STOP PUTTING THAT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE NOT, THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF IT. WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE THE PLAN. YOU JUST CAN'T DO THINGS. THIS IS NOT JUST TURN ON THE LIGHT. SO LIZ SAID THAT SHE COULD HAVE A COM, A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM DEALING WITH ALL OF THESE BY THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. REFUSE AND RECYCLE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO IT'S ONE, ONE MEETING IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SPEAK TO OUR SANITATION FOREMAN AND MAYBE IT'D BE HELPFUL, I CAN HAVE THEM DO A VIDEO OF WHAT THE BACKDOOR PICKUP LOOKS LIKE. MM-HMM . AND WHAT BACKDOOR PICKUP FOR RECYCLING WOULD LOOK LIKE. MM-HMM . SEE IF IT, THE FEASIBILITY OF, OF BOTH. RIGHT. AND IN THE MEANTIME, SORRY, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THE RECYCLING ANGELS COME OUT AND DO THAT WORK. YOU HAVE INTERNS HERE WHO COULD MAYBE DO THAT TEMPORARILY FOR ONE MONTH PROGRAM ENDED TOMORROW, THURSDAY. NO, BUT YOU HAVE ANGELS. YOU HAVE YOUR ANGEL PROGRAM. WHAT PAUL, IT'S A SUGGESTION. WE'RE NOT FIGHTING. STOP. GIVE THAT A QUESTION THAT WE ARE, I'M, WE'RE GIVING YOU A SUGGESTION SUMMARIZED. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I BASICALLY FEEL THAT THE TOWN BOARD HAS TO SHOW COMPASSIONATE. AND WE ARE DOING THAT. HOW ARE WE NOT SHOWING COMPASSION? I FEEL THAT I'M NOT, I FEEL THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING, I'VE BEEN BRINGING THIS UP FOR SIX MONTHS, SHOWING COMPASSION. EXCUSE ME. YOU HAVEN'T, YOU HAVEN'T. RESOLUTION SHOWING COMPASSION. NOTHING. AND DOING AND, AND BALANCING IT WITH PROPER POLICY IS WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO. NOT JUST DOING, SHOWING COMPASSION. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS COME UP WITH A POLICY THAT LIZ HAS AGREED TO HAVE FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER VERY QUICKLY. IT'S REALLY A FEW MORE WEEKS ONLY. WE ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER MEETING THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT, THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT BY RESOLUTION AND MOVE FORWARD. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. WE, I GUESS WE CAN LET, LET'S WORK OUT THAT WE'LL WORK OUT THE DETAILS. AND THAT'S REALLY, SO I JUST WANT, JUST TO GET CLARITY OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR ME TO DO IS TO MAKE A COMPREHENSIVE POLICY THAT INCLUDES BOTH BACKDOOR RECYCLING AND BACKDOOR REFUSE PICKUP. THAT THE CRITERIA AND THE COSTS. AND YOU WANT IT ON TODAY'S COSTS, NOT THE 2009 COSTS. OKAY. CORRECT. AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'LL CHECK TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT THE RECYCLING ON WHEELS, THE PAPER GOODS ON WHEELS. AND I BELIEVE IN THE ORIGINAL ONE, IF THERE WAS AN ECONOMIC HARDSHIP, THERE WOULD BE A SHOWING OF THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE A MAKE A DIFFERENCE. RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, UM, SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT IT FOR A CONVENIENCE AND THAT WAS WELL THEY HAVE TO SHOW THE MEDICAL HARDSHIP TOO. SUGGEST THE STAR PROGRAM. YEAH, BOTH. UH, YEAH. EVEN THE REDUCTION IN, UH, IF PEOPLE QUALIFY FOR THE STAR PROGRAM OR SOMETHING, THEY COULD GET A, A REDUCTION? YES. OKAY. SO A REDUCTION IN THE FEE, IF SOMEONE IS QUALIFYING FOR THE STAR PROGRAM, THAT THEY WOULD GET A DUCTION FOR THE ENHANCED STAR OR THE STAR? STAR FOR THE ENHANCED STAR. WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS. THE [00:55:01] ENHANCED STAR, I GUESS. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THEN I WILL PUT IT TOGETHER AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. THAT WOULD BE EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSEHOLD AGAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND YOU ALSO LOOK INTO, BECAUSE THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT LIABILITY OF WALKING, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THOSE INSURANCE COSTS ARE TO FACTOR INTO THIS, THAT PRICING. YES. SO WITH THE PICKUP SCHEDULE, I KNOW IT'S TWICE FOR RECYCLING, RIGHT? YES. UH, COMMINGLED AND PAPER ARE SEPARATE. SEPARATE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO CONSOLIDATE? I I CAN, I CAN ASK THEM BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'D BE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, TRIPS. WELL, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT TRUCKS. KNOW WHAT, DO THE SAME. MM-HMM . SOMETIMES THERE COULD BE A COMPARTMENT IN A TRUCK OR SOMETHING. WELL, THAT'S WHY YOU SAY THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT JAMS. THAT'S WHAT TO SAID. I KNOW. WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T MIX THE TWO. THAT'S WHY THEY DO IT SEPARATELY, YOU KNOW. WELL ALSO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THE TOWN BOARD MAY WANT TO CONSIDER WOULD BE TO CREATE A DISABLED, A PERMANENT DISABLED ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, THOUGHT OF THAT IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST. AND, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS SOMETIMES YOU DON'T REALLY THINK WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OF THE DISABLED, UM, UNTIL SOMEBODY POINTS IT OUT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TOWN HAS OVER THE YEARS DONE A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS FOR THE DISABLED, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, UM, THAT MAYBE AT THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WE CREATE, UM, UM, A DISABLED ADVISORY. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, I I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE LIKE DISABLED ON THE MOVE AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS DEALING WITH DISABLED WHO CAN ADVISE US. UM, AND PERHAPS THEY CAN GIVE US SOME CRITERIA AND LET'S TAKE ACCOUNT POLICY. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YEAH, YEAH. LET, LET'S OKAY. REACH OUT TO THEM. AND I WILL, BEFORE WE CREATE A PANEL, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA. WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. RIGHT. AND THERE'S SOME OF US ON THE BOARD ENJOY MYSELF IN PARTICULAR, WHO TAKE CARE OF DISABLED PEOPLE, UH, PEOPLE IN OUR FAMILY AND HAVE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND CONTINUE TO DO SO. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS LATE FOR THE MEETING AFTER DEALING WITH THE FLOODING ISSUE, UM, UM, AND CLEANING OUT UNDER A BRIDGE, WHICH I ASSUME GINA TOLD YOU ABOUT. I HAVEN'T HAD G THOUGHT YET. UM, BUT TO EVER SAY, AND I WON AN AWARD FOR HELPING A DISABLED PERSON TO EVER SAY THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT DISABLED PEOPLE IS A TRAVESTY. WELL, IT'S OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO YOU WERE WELL SET ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR NEXT STEPS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NO, YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT UP I HAD, UM, SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, EDDIE MAN, EDDIE BARNES'S DAUGHTER, UM, WENDY BARNES, WENDY, UM, JUST CONCERNED. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE, UM, EDDIE MA BARN'S FORMER COUNCIL PERSON, UM, WHO SERVED, HOW, HOW WAS IT? EIGHT YEARS? EIGHT YEARS. 12 YEARS. NINE, TWO TO OH SEVEN. OKAY. I JUST HAVE IT UP IN FRONT OF ME. I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORIZED 15 YEARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR POLICY HAS BEEN, FROM WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD IS THAT WE, WE WAIT A YEAR. AND SO THIS YEAR IS, IS ACTUALLY WILL BE UNFORTUNATE. A MATTER OF FACT, I KNOW THE, I THINK IT'S A YEAR. IT'S A YEAR. I THINK IT MIGHT KNOW. 'CAUSE I KNOW PAST. SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, WANNA COME UP WHERE WE CAN FIGURE HOW WE CAN, UM, HIGHLIGHT AND HIGHLIGHT AND RECOGNIZE, UM, COUNCILWOMAN BARNES AT THE MOST, YOU KNOW, BEST WAY POSSIBLE. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND? UM, SO WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WAS, UH, MAYBE A PLAQUE AS WE HAVE FOR, UM, MR. CARVER THAT'S HANGING IN THE LOBBY AREA. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S SHOULD BE SOMETHING AT TOWN HALL, RIGHT? TOWN HALL, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. TOWN HALL, ABSOLUTELY. SHE SHOULD TOWN HALL. ABSOLUTELY. IT SHOULD BE TOWN HALL. UM, SO JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE TO, TO EVERYONE. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT, UM, WENDY, HER DAUGHTER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT. SO JUST WANTED TO THROW DOWN IN FRONT OF, UM, THE BOARD AND SEE WHAT SUGGESTIONS OR WHAT THOUGHTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE HAVE. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, ACTUALLY IT'S RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE A PLAQUE FOR WHEN I SPOKE TO, UH, UH, WENDY OR, UH, CONFERRED WITH HER A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF US THOUGHT THAT THEY, WE SHOULD RENAME THE LOBBY, UM, FOR, UM, FOR EDDIE MAYE, UH, RATHER THAN JUST HAVE A PLAQUE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UH, TO NAME THE WHOLE LOBBY CONVERSATION, UH, FOR THE, FOR EDDIE MAY BARNES, BECAUSE SHE DID A LOT FOR, UH, THE TOWN AND JUST PUTTING A PLAQUE, YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T THINK WOULD, UH, DO THE WORK THAT SHE DID. UH, SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR. 'CAUSE I DON'T, I I JUST FEEL LIKE , [01:00:01] UM, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT I RECENTLY HAD WITH HER ACTUALLY, UH, LAST WEEK. SO THIS IS NOTHING THAT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TAKING AWAY WHAT PRIOR CONVERSATIONS WE HAD, BUT OUR CONVERSATION WAS SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT A PLAQUE. OKAY. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT CONVERSATIONS YOU GUYS HAD, BUT WE JUST RECENTLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST WEEK. YEAH, NO, YOU SUPPOSED, SO, SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR MM-HMM . SO JUST EVERYONE WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THAT EVERYONE CAN GO AROUND. IT COULD, IT COULD BE, I, WHEN I SPOKE, SPOKE WHEN I REACHED OUT TO HER, THIS, IT'S NOT A, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I BASICALLY SAID, OH, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT THE TOWN SHOULD RECOGNIZE, UH, YOUR MOTHER, YOU KNOW, I KNOW HOW CLOSE YOU WERE TO HER. AND, UM, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALK, WE WERE LOOKING CON WE WERE TALK CONFERRED, THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT UP, WHAT ABOUT THE LOBBY AT THE TOWN HALL? UM, AND SHE SAID, OH, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY GREAT. IT'S SORT OF SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, WITH DIANA JUTTER, YOU KNOW, WE CREATED A ROOM, UM, IN HER HONOR. SO, YOU KNOW, EDDIE MAY ALSO HAS PLAYED A, A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN. SO THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT I, YOU COULD HAVE A PLAQUE AND THE LOBBY, WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY CHANGED COMMUNITY POLICING IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WITH HER CREATION OF THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UM, WOULD BE THE ROOM THAT THAT GROUP MEETS AS WE NAMED IN OUR HONOR. AND WHEN WE REDO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THE ROOM, UH, A CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING IN THEIR LOBBY DIRECTIONS TO THE LOIS BRONZE, UH, CONFERENCE CENTER. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT EDDIE IS EDDIE MA. EDDIE MAE BONDS. I'M SORRY, WHAT DID I SAY? LOIS BRONZE. LOIS BRONZE. I'M SORRY. . UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, AND EVERY EULOGY THAT IS GIVEN, WE TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH, HOW IMPACTFUL SHE WAS TO HOW POLICING IS NOW DONE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS. AND SO I THINK SOMETHING LINKING HER TO THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BRAINSTORM THESE THINGS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TODAY. UH, THE MAIN THING IS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE SHOULD. YEAH. WOULD YOU, UM, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON SPEAK, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO WENDY AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE IDEAS AND NO PROBLEM. COME BACK TO US WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS. ABSOLUTELY. LET'S RESHAPE THAT. THANK YOU. . WHAT WAS THAT? OKAY, SO WHICH ROOM ARE YOU REFERRING TO? WHICH, WHICH CONFERENCE? WHERE THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISOR? WE MEET IN THE LEE JACKSON ONE. WELL, YOU USED TO LEAVE IT EAST. NEED POLICE DEPARTMENT. MAYBE IT'S TOO SMALL THOUGH. YEAH. SO WHATEVER PREFERRED HERE. TOWN HALL. YES. THAT'S, WE'LL, GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT, GREAT. SO I'LL DEFINITELY GET IN CONTACT WITH HER. I KNOW THAT SHE'S MAYBE LISTENING AS WE TALKED. ALRIGHT, NEXT I FORWARD, I HANDED OUT A PROPOSED DRAFT DECISION ON SAMIS V HAYES, WHICH STATES THAT THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS DID NOT TIMELY FILE DANIEL REPORT BY MARCH 15TH OF EACH RESPECTIVE YEAR FOR THE 2024 AND 2025 ANNUAL YEARS. UM, IN THE DRAFT I HANDED OUT IT WAS 25. I'VE SINCE ADDED 24 TO THAT AS WELL. UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND FOR YOUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF ANY EDITS, ADDITIONS, OMISSIONS, UM, SO THAT ONCE IT IS FINALLY COMPLETED, WE COULD SEND IT TO BOTH THE COMPLAINANT AND THE COMPLAINANT. DID YOU CHANGE THE WORDING THROUGHOUT TO BE TWO YEARS? YES. I, I DON'T HAVE THE DRAFT HERE. NOBODY GAVE AMY THESE HERE. I WROTE IT ON THE LINE. SO IT WAS THE ONE YOU RESPONDED TO EARLIER? YEAH, I, I THINK I MISPLACED A COPY. OH, HERE I HAVE, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. OKAY. SORRY, JULIE. YEAH, I THOUGHT YOUR EDITED CHANGES WERE GOOD. THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA CHANGE. OH, OKAY. I'LL CHANGE THE RECORDING. YEAR OF 2026 TO BE VERY SPECIFIC. UM, IT'S THE REPORT DUE IN 2027. YES, I'VE MADE THAT CHANGE AS WELL. WHAT YEAR? 2020 REPORTING. YEAR OF 25 7 IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH. YES. PARAGRAPH REPORTING YEAR OF 2026, WHICH IS DUE BY MARCH 15TH, 2027. 2026. I, IT JUST CLARIFIES IT. MM-HMM . [01:05:02] AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER FURTHER EDITS, I CAN PRINT THIS OUT TO HAVE THE SUPERVISOR SIGN AND ALSO NOTE THAT IT'S FIVE A FIVE ZERO VOTE UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE. AND WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AUGUST 12TH MEETING, MEETING OFFICIAL APPROVAL. THAT WORKS FOR ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I ASK A QUESTION? YOU NEEDED ALL THIS TIME TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU CAN LOOK AT ON YOUR OWN WEBSITE. 2024 AND 2025 ANNUAL REPORTS HAVE NOT BEEN FILED. SO THIS IS THE, THIS WAS THE DRAFTING A VIOLATION OF THE CODE OF ETHICS AS WELL. THIS IS THE DRAFTING OF THE DECISION THE LAST TIME. I DON'T RECALL THIS BOARD EVER HEARING AN ETHICS COMPLAINT BEFORE IT, IT TYPICALLY GOES TO THE BOARD OF THE ETHICS ITSELF. SO I'M SURE THE NEXT TIME WILL BE A QUICKER PROCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ONE, SO THE, THE UH, OH, MAKE SURE I DIDN'T NEED MY GLASSES ON THIS ONE. SO WE'RE GONNA, ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE. SO THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO READ. OKAY. ALRIGHT. JUST REALLY QUICKLY, JUST REALLY QUICKLY. TWO, TWO THINGS. UM, HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC. OH YEAH, I GUESS, OH, I'M SORRY. I, OKAY. THE, THE, THE NEXT TOPIC, THE FOIL REQUEST DOES REMAIN OUTSTANDING. I HAVE NOT DRAFTED A PROPOSED DECISION BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE DIRECTION FROM A MAJORITY OF THE TOWN BOARDS. WHAT, WHAT THAT DECISION WOULD ENTAIL, UM, I'M BASICALLY, JUDITH BEVILLE MADE A EXACT SAME REQUEST FOR IT, EXACT SAME, UH, DOCUMENTS WITH DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT NAMES. AND, UH, I THINK THE, THE BOARD, THE TOWN SAID THAT THEY NEEDED UNTIL NOVEMBER, SHE FILED IT, I THINK IN MAY OR JUNE, EARLY JUNE MONTHS AGO, AND SAID THEY NEED, UH, TILL NOVEMBER, UH, TO, UM, TO COMPLY. UM, I GAVE, UM, ALL THESE, UM, DOCUMENTS, UM, TO, UM, THE PERSON WHO REQUESTED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION. UM, IN TERMS OF PHONE RECORDS, I'LL DO WHATEVER THE BOARD DOES, UH, RELATING TO JUDITH IL'S, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUEST. AND I'M NOT GONNA, BASICALLY, IF THE BOARD BASICALLY GIVES THEIR PHONES, I'LL GIVE MY PHONES, THE BOARD DOESN'T AND IS GONNA, IS NOT GONNA GIVE, UH, THE SAME INFORMATION TO JUDITH THAT, UH, I'M BEING REQUESTED TO GIVE, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO FOLLOW WHATEVER POLICY THE BOARD IS DOING BECAUSE SHE, SHE TOOK IT WORD FOR WORD. THE DIFFERENCE, OF COURSE, IS THAT NONE OF US SIGNED A FALSE AFFIDAVIT STATING UNDER THE PARENT, WILL YOU STOP? I DID NOT STOP, INTERRUPT YOU. WILL YOU STOP? I DID NOT INTERRUPT YOU MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS. I DID NOT, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE FOR FRANCIS, OTHERWISE, I'M GOING, WHY DO YOU KEEP, YOU'RE NOT GONNA KEEP, THE CAMPAIGN IS OVER. STOP MAKING PERSONAL ACCUSATIONS. IT'S NOT A PERSONAL OR TAKE A BREAK. I'M GONNA, THE NEXT TIME YOU START MAKING PERSONAL ACCUSATIONS, I'M GOING PUT, I'M GONNA SAY WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIRE. I'M GONNA RECESS 'CAUSE YOU'RE ACTING TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE. ALL RIGHT. OH, YOU DONE? SO STOP IT. ARE YOU DONE? STOP IT. ARE YOU, ARE YOU DONE? DON'T MAKE ANY PERSONAL ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME. IT'S NOT A PERSONAL ACCUSATION YOU DO AT EVERY MEETING. YOU'VE DONE IT. BUT THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I GOT 77% OF THE VOTE. AND, UH, MOST OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG BECAUSE OF YOU. DID YOU FILE AN AFFIDAVIT THAT STATED THAT YOU DO NOT USE YOUR FINER 98 ACCOUNT? I'M NOT GONNA RESPOND. I'M NOT GONNA RESPOND. THAT'S WHY IT'S A FALSE. I'M NOT RESPONDING TO, TO, UH, YOUR PERSONAL ATTACKS ANYMORE. I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO AN ARGUMENT. WELL THEN DON'T INTERRUPT ME. JUST RUN AGAINST ME THE NEXT TIME. YOU'RE LUCKY I DIDN'T STOP IT. YOU'RE LUCKY I DIDN'T STOP IT. DO YOU LIKE LIVE? I WANT, I WANT WANNA SAY YOU RECALLED FROM THIS, LEMME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DONE. YOU'RE A LIABILITY TO THE TOWN. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN CONTROL YOURSELF, OKAY? LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT. CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? NO. LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT. NO, NO, NO, NO. WE'RE STILL ON THIS TOPIC. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU FILED AND YOU COULD SHOW ME WRONG, PROVE ME WRONG, BUT I CAN PULL OUT THE AFFIDAVIT THAT YOU SIGNED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU DO NOT USE UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY. THIS IS ALMOST LIKE [01:10:01] THE, UH, FORTRESS BIBLE CASE WHERE THE JUDGE FOUND YOU WERE INCREDIBLE UNDER OATH. YOU SIGNED AN AFFIDAVIT UNDER OATH STATING THAT YOU DO NOT USE YOUR FINER 98 A OL ACCOUNT FOR TOWN GOVERNMENT ISSUES. AND YET I DID A SEARCH OF FINER 98 AND IT WAS SO OBVIOUS. YOU DO. AND SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT JUDAH P BILL, UH, FILED IS THAT WE HAVEN'T FALSIFIED A DOCUMENT, AN AFFIDAVIT UNDER OATH. YOU DID. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US. NOW WE NEED TO COME UP TO A DECISION BECAUSE JUDITH VILLE, WHO WAS THE CLERK AT THE TIME, DID NOT GO THROUGH WITH A APPEAL HEARING. AND RICK TURNER, WHO WAS THE PRIOR ATTORNEY, SUED AND THE TOWN HAD TO PAY $37,000 IN PENALTIES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PROPERLY COMPLETE THE APPEAL PROCESS THAT WAS UNDER JUDITH BILL, UNDER LISA MARIE NIRO. THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. BUT WE'RE NOT HELPING HER BY DELAYING ISSUING A DECISION BECAUSE YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO IGNORE THE FALSE AFFIDAVIT AND SAY, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, OTHERS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, I'M GONNA WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEFORE US. WHAT'S BEFORE US IS TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU FILED A FALSE AFFIDAVIT UNDER OATH AND CAN PRODUCE THE FINER 98 EMAILS THAT ARE RELATED TO TOWN BUSINESS. AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BEHOLD INTO COURT TO SAY LIKE HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE CASE OF JUDAH BEVILLE, THAT WHY DIDN'T YOU COMPLETE THE APPEALS PROCESS? THIS IS GOING ON HOW MANY MONTHS NOW? GIVING YOU A CHANCE TO, TO COMPLY, FRANCIS, YOU'RE JUST A TOWN LIABILITY. WHAT IS IT? I BELIEVE ALL YOU'RE DOING IS IT'S BEEN THREE MONTHS. YOU'RE BASICALLY THE, THE PUBLIC IS SICK OF YOU BECAUSE BASICALLY ALL YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, ALL YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UM, UNDERCUT MY OFFICE. YOU'RE TRYING TO GET, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS NOT TO COOPERATE WITH ME. UM, YOU'RE BASICALLY HOLDING MEETINGS THAT ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW, NOT TRUE. AND BA AND BASICALLY, UH, YOU'RE MISUSING YOUR JOB, YOUR OFFICE, AND I CAN'T WAIT TILL YOU'RE OUT OF OFFICE. OKAY? SO THE THE REAL QUESTION HERE THOUGH, PAUL, PAUL, YOU OWN TOWN LIABILITY, PAUL. SO STOP IT, STOP IT ALL. YES OR NO. DID YOU FILE A FALSE AFFIDAVIT? KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO A DEBATE WITH YOU. OF COURSE YOU CAN. COURSE YOU CAN. I'M NOT GETTING INTO A DEBATE WITH YOU BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE TRYING TO DO DECIDE IS CONSTANTLY MAKE EVERYBODY, ALL YOU WANNA DO IS CONSTANTLY FIGHT YOU F FOR, FOR SIX MONTHS. I JUST CAN'T STAND LIARS. NO. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I REALLY HAVE A LOW TOLERANCE LIE. THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD RESIGN BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIAR. YEAH, WELL NAME SOMETHING THAT I'VE LIED ABOUT, BUT YOU WHAT YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE STOPPED. DO YOU KNOW WHAT? OKAY, SO LET'S GO, LET'S MOVE ON. UH, OKAY, NEXT, UH, MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE, SO, OKAY, SO, UM, TWO THINGS. ONE, JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, THURSDAY WE ARE CONTINUING OUR JAZZ SERIES AND WHERE IS THAT GONNA BE HELD? AND THAT IS GOING TO BE HELD YO YOSEMITE PARK RIGHT BEHIND TDYC. UM, SO PLEASE WHAT? D-Y-C-C-T-D-Y-C-C-T-D-Y-C-C. YOSEMITE PARK BEHIND. OKAY, YOSEMITE. 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE FROM, IF YOU LISTEN, NO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW IT'S YOS, IT'S YOSEMITE. BETTER OFF SPELLING IT THAN SAYING IT. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET MITE. HALF THE PEOPLE UPSET. DON'T, DON'T LET ME DO THE GREENBERG CALL, THEN WE REALLY SHOW WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THAT'S ALRIGHT. YOU KNOW, SHE'S FROM THE VILLAGE. I'M JOKING . SO, BUT AGAIN, WE, NOT ANYMORE, BUT AGAIN. UM, WELL WE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN, WE HAD THREE GREAT, TWO GREAT SHOWS ACTUALLY. UM, ONE GOT POSTPONED, BUT REALLY COME ON OUT. IT'S A GREAT TIME. ALSO WANT YOU TO TAKE ADVANTAGE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IN GREENBURG. SO IF YOU WANNA COME GRAB, GRAB SOMETHING TO EAT, THEN AFTER THAT, GRAB SOMETHING TO GRAB A DESSERT AND THEN YOU CAN DO A LITTLE SHOPPING. 'CAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO WE HOPE, AND IT'S VERY FRIENDLY, FAMILY FRIENDLY. OH ABSOLUTELY. FAMILY FRIENDLY. HAVE A GREAT TIME. COME LET THE KIDS GO PLAY ON THE THE SWINGS. GO WATCH A BASKETBALL GAME, AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO SOME GREAT SOUNDS. UM, THIS WEEK WE'RE FOCUSING ON MOTOWN, SO COME ON OUT. YOU KNOW, JACKSON FI, DIANA ROSS, ALL OF THEM, ALL THE ABOVE. SO PLEASE COME OUT WITH YOUR DANCING SHOES ON AND, AND COME OUT AND HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH US. UM, SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE THANK YOU [01:15:01] TO THE KIWANIS CLUB OF HARTSDALE WHO GAVE US A DONATION TOWARDS THE TO SUMMER JAZZ FEST. SO WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, MR. MALARA AND, UH, AND MR. REDDICKS TO REALLY THANK YOU FOR THIS CONTRIBUTION. UM, I THINK WHAT PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND IS WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES. THANK GOD FOR ARTISTICALLY SERVING COMMUNITIES AND ALL OF THEIR GREAT, UM, SKILL SETS AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO BRING THESE ARTISTS. IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY, IT'S NOT CHEAP. UM, BUT THEY HAVE MADE IT WORK WITH THEIR RELATIONSHIPS AND WE TRULY WANT TO APPRECIATE ALL THEIR HARD WORK. UM, I CALL THEM OLD GREENBERG 87. NOT GOING IT LISA, BUT, UH, , YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, JUST REALLY COME OUT, JUST VERY EXCITED TO REALLY BRING BACK WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR. SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU COME OUT AND, UH, SEE US THIS THURSDAY. AND AGAIN TO THE KIWANIS CLUB OF HARTSDALE. WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR DONATION. UM, I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO MENTION. YOU WANNA MENTION NATIONAL NIGHT OUT? OH, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE GONNA, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, MY CHIEF WILL KILL ME IF I DIDN'T. SO AGAIN, SO NEXT, UH, YEAH, I THINK IT'S NEXT TUESDAY, AUGUST 4TH, CORRECT. UH, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING, UH, NATIONAL COP OUT, WHICH IS A NATIONAL EVENT, UH, NIGHT OUT, NIGHT OUT, I'M SORRY, THANK YOU. NIGHT OUT, WHICH IS A NATIONAL EVENT DONE, UM, AROUND THE STATES. UM, JUST HIGHLIGHTING WHAT THE, WHAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS DO AND, AND REALLY GET TO KNOW AND, AND BRIDGE THAT GAP AND WITH COMMUNITY AND, AND REALLY COME TOGETHER AND JUST HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH COPS AND COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE, WE ASK YOU TO COME OUT, IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT HERE, UH, TUESDAY, IT'S GONNA BE SUNNY TUESDAY, IT'S GONNA BE SUNNY. ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. ABSOLUTELY SUNNY. BEAUTIFUL. NO GUARANTEES. NO, NO, NO. DON'T SAY THAT. WE'RE NOT PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. BUT PLEASE COME OUT. IT STARTS AT SIX O'CLOCK AS WE ALL KNOW, IF YOU COME, IF YOU HAVE ATTENDED IN THE PAST, WE DO A GREAT RAFFLE FOR OUR CHILDREN. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD DEMONSTRATIONS OF OUR POLICE VEHICLES AND REALLY GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ENGAGE WITH OUR POLICE OFFICERS. JUST A REALLY FUN TIME. UM, AND AGAIN, FOOD WILL BE THERE AS WELL. SO LET'S, LET'S LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE. NOT SURE, EXACTLY. WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A DECISION YET. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH OUR WORK SESSION. SO I'M SURE THAT ONCE WE FIGURED THAT OUT AT SOME POINT, UH, WE WOULD KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, A, UM, ABB REDUCED, REDUCED SCHEDULE FOR SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PART OF THIS EVENT OR SEE WHAT THAT'S GONNA WORK. BUT I, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, I GUESS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT OR HERE I IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY, SO THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT HERE. SO I, THAT'S WHY I SAID I, I SAID THAT VERY QUIETLY, SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA MISS, I DON'T WANNA NOT BE, YOU KNOW, BY GO BY THE PROCEDURE. SO TOWN BOARD , MY SUGGESTION IS WE GO TO NATIONAL APP FROM SIX TO SEVEN AND THEN WE COME IN AND DO OUR MEETING. UM, YEAH, WE, WE'VE USUALLY STARTED A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THAT. ALRIGHT, SO, UH, SEVEN 30. SEVEN 30, OKAY. LIKE SEVEN 30 SO WE CAN ENJOY. ALL RIGHT. AND IF SOMETHING'S GOING ON AS LONG AS WE, WE COULD DO IT EIGHT. BUT YOU CAN'T GO EARLIER SO YOU CAN'T SAY EIGHT AND THEN COME IN AT SEVEN 30. RIGHT. SO WHY DON'T WE SAY SEVEN 30? LET'S SEVEN. SO WE SAY AT SEVEN 30. SO LEE, UH, TOWN CLERK. MM-HMM . TOWN ATTORNEY. IF WE CAN MAKE SURE WE NOTE THAT THAT, UH, UH, NEXT WEEK'S WORK SESSION IS GOING TO BEGIN AT SEVEN 30. AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU COME OUT AND JOIN US FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. DID I COVER EVERYTHING? JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T, WAIT, LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING BEFORE THAT. IT ALWAYS ENDS LIKE AFTER EIGHT, RIGHT? THE NATIONAL NIGHT, SIX TO NINE. I I THINK WE SHOULD STAY, UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST NOT HAVE A WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK. NO, WE SHOULD, WE HAVE A LOT. WE HAVE STUFF GOING ON. THERE'S NO WAY WE CANNOT NOT HAVE A WORK SESSION DAY BEFORE AN ACTUAL THEN WHY DON'T WE DON'T? EIGHT O'CLOCK? I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU KNOW, BUT NO, BUT I MEAN PEOPLE, WE'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN COME IN HERE AND START OUT AND START. WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD, WHY CAN'T WE MAKE IT INSTEAD OF 7 38 AND THEN WE'LL STAY UNTIL, UNTIL UH, WE HAVE TO, WE COULD STAY TILL 11. I DON'T CARE. THERE'S A LOT TO GO ON THEN WE CAN PUSH IT TO EIGHT O'CLOCK IF WE HAVE TO. BUT WE CAN'T GO FROM EIGHT O'CLOCK TO SEVEN 30. EXACTLY. AND LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S THE FOUR LETTER WORD HAPPENS. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. UH, WE WOULD BE LIMITED AND WE'D HAVE TO WAIT TO LAY IT THAT STARTING WITH AN R AND YES. ENDING WITH AN A ONE THAT STARTS WITH R . DON'T YOU DARE UHUH COUNCIL AND DOESN'T AND IT DOESN'T RHYME WOOD PAIN. RIGHT, RIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON, YOU HAD SAID LIKE, UH, THERE'S A NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING, BUT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING IS NOT UNTIL AUGUST 12TH, RIGHT? YOU SAID THE FIFTH ACTUALLY, FRANCIS? NO, THE WORK SESSION. THE WORK SESSION IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. I'M SORRY. OH, OKAY. WHEN YOU SAID WORK SESSION WAS, I'M SORRY, I MEANT, I MEANT WORK SESSION. NO, THAT WAS FRANCIS. YOU YOU SAID EVERYTHING. WHY AM I TAKE, OKAY, WELL I'M NOT TAKING, OKAY. I GET BLAME ENOUGH FOR YOU. WHAT DO YOU WANT? OKAY. ALRIGHT. ARE WE, SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO. I THINK ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE DONE. SEE EVERYBODY ON THURSDAY. COME [01:20:01] ON OUT. WHAT'S HAPPENING THURSDAY? UH, YOU, YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED. . UH, NO. COME ON OUT TO, UH, SUMMER JAZZ SERIES AS WE CONTINUE. PHENOMENAL. YES, WE SET THE TIME'S SEVEN O'CLOCK, RIGHT? YES. AT YOUR SUMMIT AT YOSEMITE. YOSEMITE. YOSEMITE . SORRY. YO, MIGHT ME, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. PAUL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION RAISE TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL IN FAVOR? CAN YOU READ IT OUT PLEASE? YOU READ THE PLEASE MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FINANCIAL OR EMPLOYMENT HISTORY, PARTICULAR PERSONS MATTERS LEADING TO THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, PROMOTION, AND REMOVAL OF PARTICULAR PERSON'S PROPOSED PENDING AND CURRENT LITIGATION AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND WE WILL SEE YOU ON THURSDAY. NO RAIN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.