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OH,[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH HISTORIC LANDMARKS & PRESERVATION BOARD Tuesday, June 9, 2026 – 7:00 P.M. This meeting will take place in the Lee F. Jackson Room at Town Hall, located at 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh NY, at 18031 Wayne Road, Odessa, FL, and will also take place via Zoom. For additional details (opportunity for the public to attend, listen, or observe) please contact planning@greenburghny.gov. The meeting will be available to be streamed as an archive, via the Town's website.]
I'M SORRY.YOU WANNA REINTRODUCE YOURSELF? OH.
CAN YOU SEE HIS NAME? THE HOUSE BEHIND THE NOSE? UH, I DON'T THINK THE NOSE IS ON THE AGENDA, BUT MY WIFE WAS TIED UP TONIGHT.
JUST WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE.
UM, YOU HAVE THAT, ERIN? OH, I, NO, YES.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ON SCREEN OR NOT, BUT I LOSE
THANK, UH, NO, MY WIFE JUST WANTED TO STOP BY JUST LITERALLY FOR A MINUTE.
BUT TO MAKE SURE, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE, UH, HISTORIC BOARD'S AWARE OF TOMORROW, THE TOWN BOARD.
OH, THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTED ME TO JUST STOP BY AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NEW.
AND IF YOU WERE ATTENDING TOMORROW, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CERTAINLY.
LET'S, UM, HAVE, UM, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UM, MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ANY CORRECTIONS ADDITIONS? I DIDN'T FIND ANY, BUT IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES OF MAY 12TH.
WE'VE GOT CANDY IF YOU'RE HUNGRY.
I ALWAYS LIKED THAT HOUSE BEFORE ALL THE EXTENSIONS.
THE ONLY THING I HAVE, BECAUSE, UM, I'VE GOT SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS TO ASK MR. LIEBERMAN, SO I'M GOING TO, UM, HOPE WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
UM, THE ONLY THING I WANNA BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION IS DRAMA ROAD.
WE, WE WERE UP THERE ONCE WHEN THEY, THE NUNS WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
AND IT WAS BOUGHT BY A COUPLE WHO RUN, UM, I GUESS A SCHOOL FOR CHALLENGE CHILDREN, BUT I THINK THEY, IT RUNS FROM ABOUT 12 OR 14 THROUGH 21.
BUT THERE ARE 10 CHILDREN THERE.
AND OUR TOWN, THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY IS FIVE.
SO THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE ZONING BOARD.
UM, WELL, THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY IS GONNA BE UP FOR AMENDMENT TOMORROW BY THE TOWN BOARD.
SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THAT ISSUE THAT YOU JUST RAISED.
AND, BUT THE, WHAT I, WHAT I FIND INTERESTING, AND WE CAN MAKE A CORRELATION WITH IT, UM, WITH GEMAN IS IT'S SIX AND A HALF ACRES OF A TOTALLY LIVABLE HOUSE.
I MEAN, I, WE'VE BEEN IN IT, IT W IT SOLD FOR, IF I DID IT RIGHT ON THE INTERNET, ABOUT $4 MILLION.
IT'S GOT MORE ROOMS THAN YOU CAN COUNT.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND IF WE PUT IT ALONGSIDE GEMAN, JUST FOR COMPARISON, 'CAUSE THEY'RE SIMILAR SIZE HOUSES, UM, GEMAN, IF WE, IF, IF EVERYTHING COMES TO PASS IT, THE HOUSE ITSELF SITS ON AN EIGHT AND A HALF AND IS DEFINITELY NOT IN LIVERPOOL CONDITION.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHOEVER THE TOWN HIRES, UM, WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS FOR THE WORTH OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN, IT WON'T TAKE AS LONG AS I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE, UM, ON GEMAN.
AARON, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION?
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UM, SO FOLLOWING THE LAST MEETING IN MAY, THE APPLICANT'S, UH, ATTORNEY WHO IS ON THIS EVENING INDICATED THAT HE WOULD PREPARE A DRAFT AGREEMENT FOR REVIEW BY THE TOWN THAT WAS SUPPLIED.IT WAS FORWARDED TO MR. LIEBERMAN FOR REVIEW.
AND, UH, I WOULD JUST TURN IT OVER TO MR. LIEBERMAN TO GIVE ANY FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
WELL, I PROVIDED YOU WITH, UM, MY ANALYSIS OF THE, UH, PROPOSED, UM, LEASE TERMS. AND THOSE WERE THE ATTORNEY CLIENT, UH, COMMUNICATIONS.
SO I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THEM IN GREAT DETAIL.
UM, I DID HAVE CORRESPONDENCE WITH, WITH, UH, COUNSEL RAISING THREE POINTS AND, UM, ASKING, NUMBER ONE, ASKING FOR THE, UH, COPY OF THE DEED BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, UH, TERMS OF THE PROPOSED LEASE REFER TO, UH, DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SO I, UH, ASKED FOR A COPY OF THE DEED.
UM, I ALSO RAISED THE ISSUE OF LEASE TO OWN OR ACQUISITION OR SALE TO THE TOWN.
UH, BECAUSE AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH RE RESPECT TO ODELL HOUSE, THE ONLY GRANTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO USE TO OBTAIN REQUIRED THAT THE, UH, TOWN OWNED THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, ALSO THERE WERE SOME TECHNICAL INCONSISTENCIES THAT I, UH, THOUGHT EXISTED IN THE TERMS WHICH, UM, HE ACKNOWLEDGED DO EXIST.
UH, MR. PUERTA, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE, UM, APPLICANT DID GET BACK TO ME.
I'M LOOKING FOR HIS RESPONSE NOW.
HE DID SEND THE, UM, HE DID SEND THE, UH, THE COPY OF THE DEED AS I MENTIONED.
UM, HE DID NOT RULE OUT, UH, A SALE OR TRANSFER TO THE TOWN.
HE DID EXPRESS, HOWEVER, UM, OR, AND A DESIRE OR A NEED TO PROTECT THE, UH, NUNS IN THE ADJACENT, UH, PROPERTY FROM ANY INTERFERENCE WITH THEIR, UH, ACTIVITIES BY THE TOWNS, BY ANY ACTIVITIES THAT THE TOWN, UH, WOULD UNDERTAKE, SUCH AS, UM, PORNOGRAPHIC TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY WHEN OWNED BY THE TOWN WOULDN'T BE USED FOR BY PORNOGRAPHIC PERFORMANCES.
UH, INTERESTINGLY, ASTROLOGICAL, UH, OH, YES, THAT WAS IN THERE TOO.
AND, UM, A FEW OTHER MINOR, UH, OBJECTIONS, UH, MOSTLY RELATED.
I THINK HE RAISED THE ISSUE OF, UH, LANDSCAPING AND BERMS BEING PLACED TO ENSURE, EXCUSE ME, NOISE AND NOISE.
AND THAT, AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
UH, I DON'T THINK NEITHER HE NOR I BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE INSURMOUNTABLE.
THE, THOSE ISSUES WOULD BE INSURMOUNTABLE.
'CAUSE I DON'T, I THINK I, I I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THE TOWN WOULD, UM, UNDERTAKE, UH, PORNOGRAPHIC OR ASTROLOGICAL USES OF THE PROPERTY.
CURRENT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
UH, MR. PORTER, ARE YOU ON? I, I AM ON, YES, SIR.
WAS ASTROLOGICAL MENTIONED, UH, IN THERE, I BELIEVE, I DON'T REMEMBER RAISING ASTROLOGY MYSELF, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.
THAT'S IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THEY ARE SOMEWHAT DATED IN ASTROLOGY, I BELIEVE IS STILL ANATHEMA TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
SO THAT, THAT'S JUST TO, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT THAT'S ASTROLOGY, NOT ASTRONOMY.
SO IF THERE WERE NO, NO, NO ISSUES WITH ASTRONOMY OKAY.
OR, OR SCIENTOLOGY, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD IN MIND.
BUT I HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT CLEAR ORDER.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BE? WHAT'S THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE
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NUNS FAC HOME AND THE MANSION? THE DISTANCE? YEAH.UH, I WOULD DEFER TO MR. PERO OR A, OR AARON, I, I BELIEVE, SORRY, GO AHEAD, AARON.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT, UM, AND I WANTED TO CORRECT THE RECORD ON THIS.
THE, BOTH THE GEMAN MANCHIN AND THE, UH, ELDER CARE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY OPERATED BY MARION WOODS AND OR THE CARMELITES IS ACTUALLY ON THE SAME LOT.
UH, I WANTED THAT TO BE CLEAR, IT'S ROUGHLY AN 11 PLUS ACRE LOT.
THERE WAS AT ONE TIME, A FEW YEARS AGO, A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION TO SPLIT OFF THE GEMAN MANSION PIECE AT ROUGHLY ONE ACRE IN SIZE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD'VE LEFT THE OTHER PIECE AT ROUGHLY 10 ACRES IN SIZE.
IN TERMS OF DISTANCE SEPARATION, I WOULD SAY A FEW HUNDRED FEET AT LEAST, I THINK WOULD BE MAYBE MORE.
WELL, I, BUT, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
UH, BEFORE WE GO MUCH FURTHER ON THIS, I WOULD JUST ASK THE CHAIRPERSON, ARE WE NOW IN THE WORK SESSION, UH, FOR DISCUSSION OR WE WE PASSED OVER CORRESPONDENCE? YES.
WE, WE WENT THROUGH CORRESPONDENCE.
AND WE'RE GONNA CIRCLE BACK TO IT LATER.
THAT'S WHY I MADE THE COMPARISON BETWEEN OKAY.
THE DRAMA ROADHOUSE AND GEMAN.
IS THERE MORE, AARON? SO AT THIS STAGE, THERE'S BEEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE ATTORNEYS.
UM, THERE WAS INFORMATION JUST SUPPLIED RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST DAY OR TWO, I BELIEVE, BY COUNSEL TO THE BOARD THAT THE BOARD'S GONNA NEED TIME TO REVIEW AND THINK ON BEFORE IT DECIDES ITS NEXT STEP.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS, UM, MR. LIEBERMAN PREPARE SOME DOCUMENTATION FOR THE BOARD, ANYTHING FURTHER.
AND THE BOARD CERTAINLY MAY ASK AT THIS TIME IF IT WISHES TO OBTAIN ANY FURTHER ADVICE OR GUIDANCE ON THIS.
AND THEN THE BOARD IS GONNA HAVE TO ULTIMATELY DECIDE, UH, HOW IT WANTS TO PROCEED.
AND I THINK MR. LIEBER MENTIONED THIS BY EMAIL, BUT ULTIMATELY THE PROPOSAL STILL STANDS AS A REQUEST TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING.
AN ALTERNATIVE HAS BEEN PROPOSED AND OR SUGGESTED BY THE APPLICANTS ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL LEASE OR LEASE TO OWN.
NOW, THERE SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER POTENTIAL, WHICH IS, UH, A SALE PERHAPS TO THE TOWN AND OR OTHER ENTITIES.
'CAUSE THE SURROUNDING PARK, HARTSBURG PARK AND PRESERVE IS OWNED BY, UM, THE TOWN, THE COUNTY, AND THE STATE.
I BELIEVE PREVIOUSLY THERE HAD BEEN SOME COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, AT LEAST THE COUNTY, IF NOT THE STATE, AT THE TIME OF THE POTENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT WAS LATER WITHDRAWN.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF THE BOARD WANTS TO SEEK TO GO A PARTICULAR DIRECTION, ULTIMATELY IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT GONNA BE UP TO THIS BOARD, BUT LIKELY WOULD BE ANY TRANSACTION OF THE PROPERTY OR EVEN ANY LEASE WOULD HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE TOWN BOARD.
IS THAT RIGHT, MR. LIEBERMAN? YES.
SO LET ME JUST CORRECT YOU THAT, UH, THE SUGGESTION OF, UH, LEASE, OR LEASE TO OWN OR, OR, UH, TRANSFER WAS AT MY, AT OUR REQUEST, NOT THE, UH, APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD COULD BRIEFLY DISCUSS WHAT IT THINKS MAY BE THE BEST ROUTE OR DIRECT STAFF, BOTH MR. LIEBERMAN AND I, TO MAKE CONTACT WITH ANY OTHER OFFICIALS OR ANY OTHER ENTITIES OR FOLKS THAT, UH, IT WOULD LIKE FEEDBACK FROM WITH RESPECT TO THESE PROPOSALS AND A, YOU KNOW, EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND THOUGHTS.
HOW ABOUT WE TALK ABOUT IT FOR A FEW SECONDS? UM, I, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HOUSE
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REPURPOSED, PUT BACK TOGETHER, UM, AND MADE PART OF HARTSBURG.UM, WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
IF THE NUNS NEED THE FIRST FLOOR FOR PATIENTS OR FOR SYS, I DON'T IF PROVIDING WE CAN GET THE PROPER, UM, INSURANCE AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UM, IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL 11 ACRES AND CHANGE AND JUST SAY TO THE NUNS, STAY ON YOUR SIDE.
WE WON'T THROW YOU OUT AND WE'LL CHARGE YOU A DOLLAR A YEAR OR SOMETHING.
UM, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AS THEY'RE DOING NOW.
UM, BUT MY GOAL IS TO GET A HOLD OF THE HOUSE, BECAUSE THE MORE I LOOK UP, THE MORE I RESPECT WHAT HENRY GEMAN DID AND WHAT HE LEFT AS A LEGACY.
LIKE THE ENTIRE SECTION OF WHAT, 59TH STREET AND FIFTH AVENUE FOR THE ARCHDIOCESE, AN OPERATING THEATER, UM, 10 STORY BUILDING FROM MOUNT SINAI.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S WHERE I AM.
AND THAT, WOULD YOU CARE TO BE WHERE, TELL US WHERE YOU ARE, RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.
I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT BUILDING GO DOWN.
IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S TOO MUCH HISTORY IN IT.
AND I THINK IT CAN BE RENOVATED, IT CAN BE RE REFURBISHED.
YOU HAVE THE GREENHOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE PRACTICALLY ACROSS THE STREET.
IT COULD BE AN ECOLOGICAL THING.
I DO, IT COULD BE USED FOR STUDENTS TO GO IN THERE AND TAKE CLASSES, AND EVEN ADULTS.
I MEAN, I WOULD BE ONE UP THERE TO TAKE A CLASS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
CARL, WITH ALL YOUR BACKGROUND, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HELP US? YEAH, I AGREE.
AND I, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT SOME OF US VISITED, UH, YOU WERE THERE CUR, RIGHT? AND WE SAW, ESPECIALLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR, JUST HOW BEAUTIFUL THE SPACES STILL WERE.
THEY WERE REALLY, WERE NOT TER THEY WEREN'T DAMAGED AT ALL.
AND SOME OF THEM WERE SOMEWHAT DAMAGED, BUT COULD BE EASILY REPAIRED YEARS AGO.
YOU REMEMBER THAT? IT'S QUITE EXPANSIVE.
ONCE YOU ENTER, IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THE OUTSIDE BECAUSE IT SEEMS RATHER MODEST.
IT'S JUST KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, FLAT FACADE.
BUT ONCE YOU'RE INSIDE, THERE'S THIS BALLROOM TYPE ROOM.
IT OPENS UP, OPENS UP TO THE BACK, AND YOU, YOU HAVE ALL THE EXPOSURE COMING IN.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY VERY BEAUTIFUL.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THE, THE FRONT, I DON'T THINK THE OUTSIDE OF IT WAS EVER CHANGED EITHER FROM THE TIME IT WAS BUILT.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT IN MY LIFETIME.
WELL, IT, IT WAS BUILT 1920, SOMEBODY FOR THE DEPUTY AMBASSADOR TO, PER I THINK 15, 19 15.
IS IT? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY IN TWENTIES.
AND SOME, SOMETIMES IT LOOKS SOMETHING.
AND THEN FROM PERU, IT WAS SOLD TO ICEMAN, I THINK.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HE, HE, MY ADMIRATION FOR HIM COMES FROM THE FACT OF WHAT I READ.
HE, UM, HE, HE HAD THE AMERICAN DREAM.
HIS PARENTS CAME OVER AFTER THE FIRST WORLD WAR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, TO ESCAPE PERSECUTION.
AND HE, BY THE TIME HE WAS 16, HE'D INVENTED THE BELT WITH HOLES IN IT AND SOME KIND OF, UH, FRAME THAT THE HOTELS WERE USING.
16 YEARS OLD, NO EDUCATION WHATSOEVER.
UM, AND I, AND HE BOUGHT THE HOUSE HERE.
HE LIVED HIS ENTIRE, HE LIVED IN NEW YORK UNTIL HE BOUGHT THE HOUSE HERE.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING FOR US TO BE PROUD OF.
IT IS LIKE, AND I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SUCH A LOT OF HISTORY IN GREENBURG, WHICH IS SORT OF OVERWHELMING, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO LET THIS GO.
YOU WANNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND HELP ME? YEAH.
I, I THINK, UH, YOU ARE, YOU ARE.
I THINK WE, WE HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING ABOUT, UH, UH, KEEPING THE HISTORY OF, UH, GREENBERG, UH, PRESERVED AND, AND IF POSSIBLE, ENHANCED.
UH, AND THIS NOT ONLY JUST, UH, I MEAN, BESIDES, AS YOU SAID, THE GUY, WAS IT VERY GENIUS AND SELF COUNT? THEY HAD, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S ABOUT 50 PATENTS TO EACH NO, A HUNDRED.
AND, UH, INCLUDING ONE THAT THE SAFETY RAISERS MM-HMM
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THAT, IT'S VERY UNCS TO REALLY, UH, DEMOLISH IT OR PUT IT NO, IT'S A, BUT IT'LL BE BIG MISTAKE.BUT I, I THINK WHAT IS REALLY, UH, ISSUE AND, UH, ED HAS SORT OF GIVEN US A ROADMAP THAT WE NEED TO REALLY, UH, UH, SUGGEST OR MAKE DAY, UH, UM, SOME SORT OF, UH, HISTORICAL, EITHER THE TOWN, THE COUNTY, OR THE STATE.
WE SHOULD REALLY PUT IT ON IT.
SO THE DISCUSSION YOU FOR THEM TO, OKAY.
UH, I THINK WHETHER SOONER SOONER WE CAN DO IT.
SO IT'S A EASIER, WE, UH, AND I THINK IT JUST THE INTENT TO DO THAT.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO REALLY HAVE THAT.
BUT IF WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, AND ED CAN HELP US.
WE PUT A, PUT A, SOMETHING THAT IS A TULSA TOWN BOARD THAT WE RECOMMEND ABOUT INTENT, THAT IT HAS TO BE SIMILAR TO, I THINK, UH, I MAYBE IT'S A
BUT THIS ONE IS CLEARLY, UH, YES.
MUCH MORE DIRECT THINGS THAT WE SHOULD REALLY SAY THAT, UH, PUT IT ON ON WHATEVER HISTORICAL THINGS.
TAKE THE REST OF THE MONTH OF JUNE TO, I GUESS WE COULD WRITE THE SAME LETTER TO EVERYBODY.
ED, ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING WRONG TOO LATE FOR THAT
I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD BRING OUR COUNTY LEGISLATORS, OUR STATE LEGISLATORS, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW INS INTO PEOPLE.
UM, AND THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH I MIGHT LEAVE TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND SEE, AND SEE WHERE WE'RE IN THE MEANTIME, I'M GOING TO GET MY ACT TOGETHER AND I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT CONTACTS I HAVE IN THE REAL WORLD TO SEE WHO CAN HELP US GET FUNDING.
AND I DON'T FORESEE THIS HAPPENING BEFORE THE END OF JUNE, BESIDES, IT'S NOT PROPITIOUS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE END OF JUNE.
SO, UM, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD BE DOING, AARON? I WOULD ONLY JUST ADD THAT, UH, ANY TRANSMISSION OF A LETTER TO THOSE VARIOUS AGENCIES.
UH, IT WOULD ALSO BE APPROPRIATE, IN MY OPINION, TO COPY THE APPLICANT'S TEAM SO THEY'RE AWARE OF THE COMMUNICATIONS BEING MADE AND ANY, WHAT'S PROGRESS OR OUTREACH TO KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP.
YOUR, YOUR DEPARTMENT HOLDS THE LETTERHEAD TO WHICH ALL LETTERS NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, UM, AND YOU AND MR. LIEBERMAN NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVEN'T PUT OUR FOOT IN OUR MOUTHS.
UM, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THIS OUT, I WOULD HOPE, BY THE FIRST WEEK OF JULY, MAYBE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK SO.
I'LL HAVE SOME TIME LATER IN THE MONTH TO ASSIST BECAUSE, UH, THERE ARE FIVE WEDNESDAYS, BUT ONLY TWO PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS,
SO I KIND OF HAVE AN EXTRA WEEK, WHICH IS, UH, GONNA HELP ME CATCH UP WITH THINGS.
AND I'LL CERTAINLY HELP OUT AND, AND FOCUS ON THIS SO THAT WE CAN BE TIMELY IN DISTRIBUTION.
I'LL BE AWAY THE LAST WEEK IN JUNE AND FIRST WEEK IN JULY.
SO WE'LL HAVE YOU DRAFT IT, UH, NEXT WEEK THEN.
I GUESS I HAVE, YEAH, YOU, YOU GO AHEAD.
UH, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN HAVE, UH, ONE OF OUR HISTORIC CONSULTANTS THAT WE HAD WHO HAD PREPARED A, UH, UPDATE ONTO, UH, OUR, UH, ORIGINAL FISHER, UH, DOCUMENTS THAT HAS, SO THEY CAN REALLY HELP US TO, UH, NAVIGATE AND IF YOU NEED IT? I THINK DO, THE QUESTION WOULD BE THE FUNDING FUND FOR THEM TO BE, UH, HELPING US TO, TO NAVIGATE THESE THINGS, WHICH I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH THEY HAVE, UH, SUGGESTED THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IT.
UM, SO THAT'S MY REQUEST IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, TO HELP THEM ON BOARD.
SO, UH, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A WEIGHT OF, UH, AND RESPECTABILITY OF OUR REQUEST.
IF THE, IF A MAJORITY OR THE ENTIRE BOARD IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE, UM, EXPRESSES THAT.
AND THEN IF THE CHAIRWOMAN WOULD SEND AN EMAIL TO MYSELF AND MR. LIEBERMAN, UH, WE WILL SPEAK WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND SEE WHAT THE ROUTE IS.
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THERE WOULD LIKELY BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH, DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF WORK.AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT FUNDING THE TOWN WOULD HAVE FOR THAT, TYPICALLY, ANY SORT OF REVIEW.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S SOMEWHAT UNIQUE HERE BECAUSE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE BETHEL KNOLLS PROJECT, H AND LPB ASKED FOR A REVIEW BY EASTON ARCHITECTS AND THE APPLICANT AGREED.
AND THEN THEY FUNDED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ESCROW, UH, AND EASTERN ARCHITECTS WAS PAID OUT OF THAT ESCROW.
THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER.
SO I'LL HAVE TO, UH, NAVIGATE THAT.
I'LL SPEAK WITH MR. LIEBERMAN AND, AND COMMISSIONER DUANE.
BUT IF, IF THE ENTIRE BOARD OR MAJORITY OF THE BOARD'S IN FAVOR, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT ON RECORD.
ED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION SO WE CAN VOTE ON THIS OR NO? OR CAN WE JUST VOTE? WELL, FIRST YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR FROM, SINCE THEY'RE HERE OR HERE IN QUOTES, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT, SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INPUT OR WHAT'S STATE MORE, WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO OR NOT TO DO.
I THINK THAT CARL ALSO HAD A QUESTION.
I MEAN, NOW THAT MR. PER IS HERE, I WAS JUST WONDERING IN TERMS OF INSURANCE, UH, THE ENTITY THAT, THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY, IS IT MARION WOODS OR THE ARCHDIOCESE? I, I IMAGINE THERE'S INSURANCE AND I'M WONDERING IF THEY COULDN'T FILE A CLAIM TO MITIGATE THE DAMAGES THAT WERE SUSTAINED OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
UH, 'CAUSE I'M JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE AND IF THERE ARE PLANS IN THE WORKS TO DO.
OR IF IT HASN'T BEEN DONE ALSO.
WELL, IT WASN'T STATED THAT IT HAPPENED.
IN FACT, WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT IT'S, UM, READY FOR DEMOLITION IN PART BECAUSE OF ITS CAUSE UH, WELL, OF ITS CONDITION, IT'S PHYSICAL CONDITION AND LACK OF WATER TIGHTNESS.
IS THE, UH, LAWYER FOR THE APPLICANT STILL HERE? CAN HE ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR IS IT NOT PROPER? MR. RO, HE'S STILL, HE IS STILL HERE.
UH, HE IS, I, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DAMAGE OCCURRED, UH, 18 TO 24 MONTHS AGO.
IT'S NOT WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, BUT WITH RESPECT TO ANY, ANY INSURANCE, WELL, FOR THE RECORD, MARIAN WOODS OWNS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
IT HA IT HOLDS THE DEED TO THE PROPERTY WITH RESPECT TO THE INSURANCE.
I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW, BUT LESLIE HOOT IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MARIAN WOODS.
SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED LIGHT ON THAT.
UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN INSURANCE FILING MADE, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT WAS PROPRIETARY.
I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT IF I KNEW.
SO, I, I HAVE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY FROM, UM, WHEN YOU AND I VISITED WITH DAVID AND URA ABOUT NINE MONTHS, 10 MONTHS AGO.
AND THE ROOF LINE WAS NOWHERE NEAR THE CONDITION IT IS NOW.
IT SUSTAINED THAT DAMAGE OVER THIS PAST WINTER.
AND, UM, THAT WAS LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.
SO I'M WONDERING, SO I I I'M SORRY.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE ORIGINAL FLOOD WHICH CAUSED THE BASEMENT DAMAGE, THE FIRST FLOOR DAMAGE IN THE MOLD CONDITION.
I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THE DETERIORATION OF THE ROOF, ALTHOUGH I KNOW IT'S ONGOING.
UH, WE HAVEN'T SPENT THE MONEY TO REPAIR THE ROOF IN ANTICIPATION OF THE DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CHARITABLE DOLLARS WELL SPENT.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT AN INSURANCE CLAIM THAT WOULD NECESSARILY, I DON'T, I'M NOT AN INSURANCE EXPERT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU HAVE A VALID INSURANCE CLAIM FOR SIMPLE DETERIORATION OVER TIME, THAT THAT OCCURS NATURALLY WITH THE PASSAGE OF TIME.
AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ACCESS TO INSURANCE FUNDS FOR THE ROOF UNLESS THERE WAS A CASUALTY EVENT SEPARATE FROM THE FLOOD THAT CAUSED THE ROOF DAMAGE.
THAT SEEMED TO BE A PRECIPITOUS DECLINE FROM WHEN WE SAW IT NOT TOO MANY MONTHS AGO.
BUT ALSO THE LEADERS AND GUTTERS WERE TOO OFF.
THAT'S, AND THAT WAS, AND, AND IT, THAT WASN'T TRUE WHEN WE CORRECT.
SO THERE HAS BEEN WINTER OR STORM DAMAGE YES.
UM, COULD YOU POSSIBLY FIND OUT WHETHER ANY INSURANCE CLAIMS HAVE BEEN MADE? I'M, I'M PRESUMING THAT MION WOODS CARRIES INSURANCE.
I CAN'T SEE THAT THEY WOULDN'T, BUT YEAH.
UM, AND IF THEY'VE MADE ANY CLAIMS,
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WELL ASK, LET'S ASK THE QUESTION.YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT, THE FLOOD SITUATION WAS BEFORE MY TIME, SO I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT.
UM, AS FOR THE ROOF SITUATION, THAT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME OF DETERIORATION.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AN EVENT THIS PAST, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS LIKE DECEMBER OR JANUARY, JUST CAUSED IT TO BREAK EVEN FURTHER.
YOU HAVE A THOUGHT COMING? WELL, I MEAN, I HAVE, I JUST SENT THEM TO MR. LIEBERMAN, A PHOTO OF THE ROOF TAKEN ON JULY 16TH, 2025.
AND THEN THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN APRIL OF 2026.
SO THAT'S QUITE AN EVENT THAT WASN'T GRADUAL NEGLECT, I BELIEVE.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO FURTHER, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT DOES SEEM, WELL, WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE TOWN STAFF LOOK INTO IT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THEY WOULD HAVE EXPERIENCE FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT OR A TOWN ENGINEER.
SO YOU HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT INSURANCE EITHER OF YOU? I'M TALKING ABOUT LES, UH, I'M TALKING TO LESLIE AND, UH, ED MION WOODS HAS INSURANCE.
WELL, MAYBE, UH, IF, IF YOU COULD SEND US A COPY OF THE, UH, POLICY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TOO AND SEE IF THERE'S A CLAIM THAT COULD BE MADE.
HAVE THEY MADE ANY CLAIMS, AND ALSO PROVIDE US WITH INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ANY CLAIMS WERE MADE.
WE CAN WE PULL THE MADE WATER ON THE WATER LEAK ON THE PIPE, BROKEN PIPE IN THE LEAK.
I WILL, I WILL INVESTIGATE, HAVE THE LOSS RUNS, UH, MADE, AND WE CAN REVERT THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
IS THERE ANYTHING MORE WE WANT ON GEISER? DO WE NEED A A VOTE ON NO, WE'RE JUST TO ADJOURN THIS BECAUSE WE'RE IN AN ACTIVE, UH, INVESTIGATION STAGE HERE, WE'RE ASKED, WE'RE STILL GONNA CONTEMPLATE GETTING MORE INFORMATION.
SO SHOULD WE ADJOURN IT? DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A DATE SPECIFIC? IT WOULD HELP.
I, I, I JUST WANNA INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT.
UM, BACK TO MR. DESI'S QUESTION ABOUT EASTON ARCHITECTS.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS FULL BOARD SUPPORT FOR THAT.
DOES THE APPLICANT WANNA RESPOND? DID, DID THAT HAS TO BE SO VALUABLE AND USED FOR SO MANY THINGS THAT WOULD BE QUIET FOR THE NUNS.
DID WE SHARE, UM, THE ESTIMATE THAT WE OBTAINED AFTER THE FIRST BOARD MEETING FOR THE REMEDIAL COSTS? YES.
I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE THREE TO $5 MILLION RANGE.
UH, WHO WAS IT? THREE, THREE TO 4.2? YEAH.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING WORK IN, IN THE SAME SENSE.
UH, IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT TO CONSIDER ENGAGING THE SAME FIRM IF, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT FURTHER SPECIFICITY.
UH, BUT IF YOU WANT A SECOND OPINION, THAT'S OF COURSE YOUR PREROGATIVE AS WELL.
BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT THINGS.
UH, THIS IS FOR, UH, DESIGNATION OF, UH, UH, HISTORICAL, UH, HISTORICAL KIND OF LANDMARKING, UH, TO SOME EXTENT, WHETHER THE TOWN, STATE OR THE
UH, AND IT IS, IT IS A SEPARATE TRACK.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT IT WILL, IT WILL HELP TO APPLY FOR THE, SOME SORT OF, UH, GRANT FROM THE STATE TO, UH, UH, IN, IN FUTURE IF WE DECIDE TO DO SOME WORK.
IT'S, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
SO I THINK, UH, IF WE MAY, 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME OTHER BUSINESS ON THE NEXT MEETING OF THE BOARD.
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CAN SOMEONE JUST RECITE THAT IT'S 14TH, THAT'S DEAL DAY.SO WE WOULD, UH, LOOK TO HAVE THE LETTER THAT WAS DISCUSSED, PREPARED, AND TRANSMITTED AHEAD OF THAT MEETING? YES.
IDEALLY, I MEAN, I, IDEALLY WE WOULD WORK ON IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S EVEN SOME RESPONSES RECEIVED THAT WE CAN REPORT BACK AT THE MEETING ON THE 14TH.
CAN WE GET A COPY OF THE ESTIMATE THAT THEY GOT FOR THE 5 MILLION? I'LL RECIRCULATE.
I THINK WE ALREADY, YOU ALREADY NO, WE'VE SEEN IT.
WE DID CIRCULATE EVERYTHING, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL RECIRCULATE IT IN HARD COPY.
THERE'S DEFINITELY TWO PEOPLE THAT NEED HARD COPY.
BEFORE WE LEAVE, UH, ED, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO, UH, RESPOND TO, UH, UH, THE SUGGESTION, WHICH IS THE REVERSE OF WHAT YOU WERE PROPOSING, WHICH WAS FOR YOU TO LEASE TO THE TOWN WITH NO OWNERSHIP, JUST THE OPPOSITE THAT YOU, UH, PRO COME TO US WITH CONCRETE RESTRICTIONS ON USE THAT YOU WOULD WANT US TO, UH, ABIDE BY IF, BUT, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHETHER THAT'S A, A, A POSSIBILITY OR WHETHER IT'S A NON-STARTER AS FAR AS YOUR CLIENTS ARE CONCERNED.
I WOULD, SO I HAVE NOT EXPRESSLY DISCUSSED THE CONCEPT OF A SALE.
ONLY WITH MY CLIENT, UH, SINCE BEFORE THE FIRST MEETING.
THE HESITATION MARION WOODS HAS IN THAT REGARD, ACTUALLY, THIS IS, IS MANYFOLD FIRST A SALE OF THE PROPERTY BY THE CHARITY WOULD REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF THE SUPREME COURT AND THE CHARITY'S BUREAU OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A SUBDIVISION, UM, BE UNDERTAKEN, I THINK, BY THE TOWN ITSELF, BECAUSE MY CLIENTS JUST DON'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO THAT, TO SEPARATE OUT THE TAX LOT, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN DEED A PARTIAL LOT, EVEN TO A MUNICIPALITY.
AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS CREATE A SIGNIFICANT TIMELINE ISSUE WHEN REALLY THE APPLICATION FOR THE DEMOLITION IS TO ADDRESS SOMETHING WHICH ARE APPROACHING EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
THIS DILAPIDATED PROPERTY, UH, I DON'T WANNA DEBATE THE LEVEL OF DILAPIDATION OR THE QUALITY OF THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR A SOLUTION THAT'S MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE.
BUT ANY, ANY SALE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE HURDLES AND THEN WOULD HAVE TO BE AT FAIR MARKET VALUE AS ESTABLISHED BY AN INDEPENDENT APPRAISER.
IF I MAY JUST ADD ANOTHER PIECE TO IT, THERE WAS AN IDEA ALSO, UM, MENTIONED BY, I BELIEVE THE CHAIR, ABOUT THE FULL SALE OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY WITH A LEASE BACK TO, UM, MARION WOODS, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE UTILIZATION OF THEIR FACILITY.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO MY CLIENT.
JUST WANTED TO ADD, BUT GET BACK TO US MORE DEFINITIVELY.
UH, I WILL RAISE IT WITH THEIR BOARD, UH, AND PUT IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
AND MAY I ADD A GLOSS? I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WERE SUGGESTING THE FIRST OPTION WAS THAT IT WOULD ALLOW US MORE EASILY TO LEVERAGE GRANTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE REHABBING OF THE PROPERTY.
I, THAT REMINDS ME, I SHOULD CLARIFY ANOTHER POINT.
THE, THE GEMAN HOUSE ITSELF HAS NEVER BEEN USED FOR AS LIVING SPACE.
IT'S NOT COVERED BY THE DOH APPROVALS TO OPERATE THE HOME.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF THE USE OF THAT FACILITY AS PART OF THE CARE THAT'S BEING DELIVERED AT THE SAME, THANK YOU.
IT, AT ONE POINT WAS USED FOR OFFICES PURPOSE.
AT, AT ONE POINT IT WAS LEASED OUT COMMERCIALLY, UH, TO AN INDEPENDENT OPERATOR.
I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THEY USED IT FOR.
UH, AND IT WAS WHEN THAT LEASE EXPIRED, WHEN THEY FIRST EXPLORED THE SUBDIVISION.
SO IT COULD BE SOLD AS A PRIVATE RESIDENCE.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO SHARE ALL THAT HISTORY SO WE HAVE SOME IDEA WHAT HAS BEEN TRIED? IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
UH, AND I MEAN, I THINK I PUT IT ON THE RECORD IN THE FIRST MEETING, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE IT REDUCED TO WRITING, I'M SURE WE CAN DO THAT.
YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
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I VAGUELY REMEMBER THE SUBDIVISION HEARINGS, SO I, THE TOWN CAN SUPPLY ALL OF US WITH THAT.I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT THE SISTER THAT ANOTHER GROUP RENTED OUT THAT AT THE HOUSE, ANOTHER GROUP OF NUNS.
BUT I'M, I'M A LITTLE FUZZY ON THOSE DETAILS, ED.
I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT I DO NOT PURPORT TO KNOW THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE'LL DO A LITTLE INVESTIGATING AND WE'LL BRING THIS MATTER UP IN JULY.
ON 5 99, UM, THAT THIS ONE 16 WHAT, WHAT? 16.
WHAT'S THAT? THE NEW, THE, THE NEW HOUSE NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA.
SHOULD WE TAKE THAT NEXT? WELL REVIEW, I THINK.
UM, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER? MAYBE TWO.
DID YOU, DID ANY, AARON, DID ANYBODY'S, UH, VISIT THE HOUSE TODAY AND, OKAY.
SO JUST, I'M GONNA GIVE, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND.
SO THE OWNERS WHO, UH, ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY, UM, IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, UH, SEEK TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE AND BUILD A NEW HOME FOR THEIR FAMILY.
UH, THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE REQUISITE INFORMATION, UH, THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO THE BOARD.
AND IN CONNECTION WITH, UH, DEMOLITION THE BOARD'S, UH, LONGSTANDING POLICY HAS BEEN FOR A SITE VISIT TO BE CONDUCTED.
I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH CHAIRPERSON OSHA THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, SHE INDICATED SHE COULD NOT ATTEND, BUT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO, UH, CONDUCT A SITE VISIT WITH THE OWNERS AND TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF, UM, THE ATRIUM AREA, THE STOVE AND OVEN, THE FIREPLACE, THE BANISTER, UH, THE TERMITE AND WATER DAMAGE, UM, AND SOME OTHER ELEMENTS INCLUDING DOORKNOBS.
UM, LIGHT SWITCH COVERS, UH, UH, A WEATHER VEIN AND AN ORNAMENTAL, UM, EAGLE THAT WAS, UH, OR THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE FRONT OF THE HOME.
AND I CAN SHARE THOSE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE APPLICANTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN SOME THINGS.
'CAUSE I HAD MENTIONED, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THE BOARD WOULD BE ASKING WHAT, IF ANY EXISTING MATERIALS, UM, WERE THEY CONSIDERING TO EITHER REUSE, REPURPOSE, OR DONATE IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
SO I'LL TURN THEM THAT OVER TO, UH, THE OWNERS WHILE I, UH, ACCESS THE PHOTOS THROUGH MY EMAIL.
IS IT, WOULD IT, WOULD IT HELP IF THEY COME TO THE TABLE AND SIT? OR WAS THAT NOT RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF, IF THERE'S SPACE, IT'D BE GREAT IF THERE WAS SPACE.
WHEN DO YOU DO? I'VE BEEN HERE JUNE 25TH.
UM, THANK YOU FOR MEETING US FIRST OF ALL.
UM, SO AS WE TOLD ERIN TODAY, WE, THERE ARE LIKE A COUPLE OF ORNAMENTAL PIECES THAT WE WOULD BE, UM, USING.
UM, THE LIGHT SWITCH COVERS SPECIFICALLY.
UM, THE EAGLE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN THE, UM, WEATHER.
UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT BECAUSE THE OWNER TOOK BASICALLY EVERYTHING AND LIKE THE BASED ON WATER DAMAGES AND LIKE THIS, IT'S AN OLD HOUSE AND I THINK NOBODY BEEN USING THE HOUSE FOR LIKE, FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT IT, YOU'RE NOT LIVING IN IT NOW, ARE YOU? NO.
SO IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
SINCE THE, BUT YOU'RE ONLY THE THIRD OWNER.
I THINK WE'RE, I DID NOTICE THAT.
BUT I WOULD GO BUY THAT HOUSE ALL THE TIME.
'CAUSE I WOULD BE, UH, EITHER INSTRUCTING OR TAKING CLASSES UP AT THE COLLEGE, AND I COULD COME UP FROM WHERE I WAS WORKING AT THE TIME, GO UP PAYING, AND I WAS THERE.
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MM-HMMTHAT WAS THE EASY WAY TO GET TO THE COLLEGE TOO, THROUGH THE BACK ENTRANCE.
UM, THE FLOORS THAT I SAW IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU, UH, BY THE WAY, YOUR PACKET WAS PHENOMENAL.
OH, WE COULD HOLD IT UP AS POSTERS FOR EVERYBODY.
REALLY LIKE OLD, BUT THEY'RE THE, THE, THE, THE WOOD.
BUT THIN IS THE WOOD SALVAGEABLE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST COMPLETE DAMAGE AS THEY PUT THE CARPET ON SOME, THEY HAD CARPET ON SOME.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD A LOT OF HOLES FROM THE, FROM THE STAPLES THAT THEY HAD CARPET, BECAUSE I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT, AT LEAST FOR ME, BUT I THINK MANY OF THE OTHERS, WE DON'T LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE HOUSES TO LANDFILL.
WE LIKE TO LET THE OWNERS SELL IT.
UM, THERE ARE, I GUESS IN THE LAST YEAR, I'VE HAD THREE SESSIONS.
I'VE HAD TO GO TO SCHOOL ON THIS, AND ALL OF IT HAS BEEN REPURPOSING, DECONSTRUCTING, NOT PUTTING HOUSES IN LANDFILL.
SO WHATEVER YOU CAN SALVAGE AND SELL, WE HAVE A LIST OF, UM, HOUSES OR, OR BUSINESSES THAT, UM, WE'LL EITHER TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS FOR FREE OR I WOULD TRY TO SELL IT PERSONALLY.
HALF OF THE HOUSE, IT HAS ONLY PLYWOOD AS I'M NOT INTERESTED.
WE'RE NOT, NOBODY'S INTERESTED IN PLYWOOD.
AND SOME ROOMS ARE LIKE, THEY RENOVATED LIKE ON THE FLOORS THEY DID LIKE, MAYBE, MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO.
BUT IT'S LIKE NOTHING IS IN MATCHES WITH NOW ARE THE WALLS PLYWOOD, OR ARE THEY, UH, SHEET ROCK, PLASTER.
THEY SHOULD BE SHEET ROCK OR PLASTER.
WHAT, WHAT THEY DID? THEY DID THE EXTENSION UHHUH.
IT'S SHEET ROCK, BUT THERE WERE, WERE THE FIREPLACES.
UM, THE FIREPLACE, IS THAT REAL FIELDSTONE OR IS IT, UM, JUST FACING.
THAT, THAT IT'S A, IT'S A REAL STONE, BUT IT'S DONE LATELY.
MAYBE LIKE IN THE LAST 15 YEARS.
BUT THAT SHOULD BE SOLD OR REPURPOSED.
WHAT'S THE MANTLE? IS THERE A MANTLE? IT'S A WHITE WOOD MANTLE.
DOESN'T THAT HAVE STONE ON IT? SOME PART.
AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE STONE? SO WE ARE, WE ARE DOING BASICALLY ALMOST THE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING ALMOST THE SAME STONE.
SO PROBABLY WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO USE FOR LIKE, FOR OUR NEW HOME, IF WE CAN SAVE, LIKE, IT DEPENDS LIKE HOW MUCH WE CAN SAVE WITH THAT STONE.
THEN YOU COULD PROBABLY USE THE, UM, FIREPLACE TOO.
WHAT THAT, THE BRASS, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE KNOCK ROOM AND THE HANDLE.
WHAT STYLE ARE, OR IS THE NEW HOUSE GOING TO BE? UM, ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR.
UM, I THINK IT'S CALLED COLONIAL HOUSE.
ARE THERE OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY? NO.
THAT DOESN'T COUNT FOR LIKE A LAWN MOW.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE STOVE IN THE ATRIUM, WHICH IS I THOUGHT GORGEOUS.
THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE SAVING, ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP AN ATRIUM OR YOU'RE GOING TO JUST MAKE THAT A PLAYROOM OR SOMETHING? IN THE WINTER WAS COMPLETELY LEAKING.
THE ATRIUM WAS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.
YEAH, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT REALLY WAS NOT.
NO, IT'S NOT WORTH KEEPING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE WOOD DAMAGE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THE FOOTPRINT SAME AS IT IS FOR THE HOUSE? SLIGHTLY BIGGER.
NO, IT'S, YOU'RE GONNA DEMOLISH.
IT'S A BIGGER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER HOUSE AS WE'RE GROWING.
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YOU HAVE ANY? NO, NO, IT'S GOOD.I MEAN, AT THE PACKET WAS AMAZING.
OH, I, UM, I HAVEN'T ENJOYED GOING THROUGH A PACKET LIKE THAT IN A LONG TIME.
SO THAT'S WHY DOWN IN FLORIDA.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE BANISTER TO THE STAIRS? IT'S VERY SMALL.
YEAH, IT'S VERY SMALL FOR THE HOUSE THAT WE, WELL, I, I'M NOT ASKING I BUT PUT IT ON YOUR LIST OF SEEING IF A SALVAGE HOUSE COULD USE IT.
LIKE MAYBE SOMEONE WHO WANTS, BUT, WELL, ONE OF, ONE OF, UM, THE REQUESTS WE WOULD MAKE WAS IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA USE ALL THE LIGHT SWITCHES, AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE, UM, THE BANISTER AND WHATEVER AR ELSE AARON SAW, THEN WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU, UM, CALL SALVAGE HOUSES AND OFFER IT TO THEM FOR FREE OR OFFER IT TO THEM FOR MONEY DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAY THE WIND IS BLOWING THAT DAY.
AND THAT WILL BE PART, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE LETTER THAT IS SENT.
AND THEN, AND IF YOU DO CONTACT SALVAGE HOUSES, THEN YOU NEED TO TELL US WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY SAID AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE.
YEAH, BUT THE, WHATEVER THE AARON TOOK PICTURES TODAY, I THINK IT'S, WE'RE TAKING THAT STOP.
SO WE ARE GOING TO SAVE THE STOP EVEN UNLESS ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD, ANYTHING THEY'RE GOING TO SAVE, PUT IT, ANSWER OUR LETTER WITH THAT ALSO.
JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.
KAREN, DO I NEED ANYTHING ELSE? PRESIDENT CARTER, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE BOARD TO, OR FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN THE BOARD TO VOTE TO, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE THE LETTER LETTER AND ALLOW THESE FOLKS TO MOVE FORWARD SUBJECT TO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION WITHOUT, YOU MIGHT, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING A DESIGNATION OR NOMINATION, I SHOULD SAY.
YOU MIGHT ALSO WANNA CHECK WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD, THAT'S PERFECT.
UH, WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE A MOTION FOR WHAT? YEAH.
TO TO SEND THE NORMAL LETTER YES.
MR. SCHMIDT, WOULD YOU PLEASE WRITE IT AND SEND IT PAST US? YES.
WHAT WE DO HERE FOR, AND I'M NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF YOU REMEMBER JUST TO SEND OVER WHAT THE NEW HOUSE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
I THINK IT WAS IN THE YOU DON'T WANT AN ALLIGATOR
NO, JUST A, A PICTURE LIKE WHEN YOU GET THE FINAL DRAWING AND THEY, OH, THIS IS WHAT YOUR HOUSE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
NO, I JUST WENT BY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OKAY.
THAT I, THAT I WANNA TALK TO BECAUSE, UM, I, WE DO NEED, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, SOME OF US MAY BE ABLE TO GET TO THE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT.
AND I, WE DO NEED COACHING FROM OUR LEGAL ADVISOR HERE, BUT WE DO KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING.
UM, TECHNICALLY IT'S ONLY FOR, UM, AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN.
UM, BUT I, IT AND, AND THE AND THE REZONING.
THEY'RE APPLYING FOR VARIOUS, UH, RESPONDING TO, BUT PUT THEIR NEEDS
I THINK THAT THE, UM, THAT H AND LPB WOULD LIKE TO PUT, ITS 2 CENTS IN THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO TOTAL DEMOLITION.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE.
UM, AND I'M HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WILL GO WITH ME.
I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ADVISE THE BOARD THAT WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME DISCUSSION UNDER CORRESPONDENCE, SINCE IT'S AN ITEM ON WITH THE TOWN BOARD, UM, I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST A FULL OPEN CONVERSATION GIVEN THAT, UH, IT WAS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM AND THEREFORE THE, AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THIS EVENING LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THEREFORE IT WASN'T TRANSMITTED TO THE
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APPLICANT'S TEAM.SO THAT IS RECOG RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE THAT JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION THAT THE, THAT THIS BOARD WAS AWARE OF THE TOWN BOARD'S PUBLIC HEARING.
I CAN LEAVE AND YOU, MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST THING FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS YOUR CONCERNS, BUT YES, WE WILL BE THERE TOMORROW NIGHT.
DOES THAT MAKE YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAPPIER? YES, OF COURSE.
SO, I WAS JUST BECAUSE, UH, IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM, I WAS JUST GONNA GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON 5 9 9 WHITE PLAINS ROAD.
AND THEN IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO GO, UH, SEEK LEGAL ADVICE OR, OR ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT THAT'S FINE.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO 5 99 WHITE PLAINS ROAD, FOLLOWING OUR LAST MEETING, OR THE BOARD'S LAST MEETING IN MAY, UH, STAFF DID GENERATE THE LETTER AT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD, UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE PROJECT TEAM'S REQUEST FOR ESSENTIALLY PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION OF CERTAIN ELEMENTS SUBJECT TO VARIOUS CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
SO STAFF PREPARED THAT LETTER, WORKED WITH THE CHAIRPERSON, UH, TRANSMITTED A DRAFT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD, AND THEN FINALIZED THAT LETTER, SENT IT OFF TO THE PROJECT TEAM.
THEY ARE, THEY HAVE RECEIVED IT.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE REQUESTS, BASICALLY, AS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, THEY HAVE NOT YET FILED FOR ANY SORT OF DEMOLITION PERMITS, BUT THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO ENGAGE, UM, THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS ACME HERITAGE CONSULTANTS, LLC MM-HMM
WHO IS GONNA BE ON SITE FOR PORTIONS OF THE WORK.
UM, AND WE'LL WRITE SOMETHING UP THAT WILL ULTIMATELY GET TRANSMITTED TO THIS BOARD AS THEY UNCOVER AND INVESTIGATE FURTHER, KIND OF WHEN YOU GET BEHIND THE, BEHIND THE, UH, SCREEN, SO TO SPEAK.
AND, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY ONLY LOOKED AT CERTAIN ELEMENTS WHERE THEY TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF SHEET ROCK OFF AND WAS ABLE TO EXPOSE SOME OF THE BEAMS THAT THEY WERE GONNA TRY AND HAVE DATED.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO, THERE WAS MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHAPEL AT OUR LAST MEETING.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT AS A FULL TEAM.
AND AS SOON AS I HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN WRITING FROM THAT TEAM, AND THEN THEY'VE, IN MY OPINION, BEEN GREAT AND RESPONSIVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
ABSOLUTELY WE WILL, TRANS STAFF WILL TRANSMIT THAT TO THIS BOARD.
SO THEY, THEY HAVE GOTTEN THE LETTER, THEY'RE GOING TO SEEK TO, UM, COMPLY WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY'VE AGREED TO THAT AND BE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DIGESTING ALL THAT AND COMING UP WITH A PATH FORWARD SO THAT THEY CAN COMPLY WHILE ALSO PUTTING TOGETHER, UH, THEIR APPLICATION FOR CERTAIN PORTIONS OF DEMOLITION AND D DECONSTRUCTION AS WELL.
I WILL SAY, AT LEAST FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, AARON, UM, AND MAYBE WE CAN, I CAN CONVEY IT AT SOME POINT THAT THIS HAS BEEN A FUN PROJECT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SO, I JUST WANNA SAY NICE TO WORK WITH, AND I KNOW THAT THAT DOES, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN, THEY, THEY'RE ALMOST ENJOYABLE BECAUSE THEY, THEY TALK TO YOU AND THEY, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING HAS BEEN VERY, VERY PLEASANT.
THEY'VE BEEN COOPERATIVE WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT RIGHT.
EVEN WHEN WE WERE THERE ON SITE MM-HMM
AND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE HISTORY TOO, WHICH IS FUN.
SO, UM, MAY WE, UH, GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK TO OUR ATTORNEY ABOUT HOW THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION YOU WANNA MEET WITH THE ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE LEGAL MATTERS.
SO DO WE HAVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? YES.
SO I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURNED, BUT SEE, ITEM C HAS BEEN NO, I'M NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE JUST DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD JUST, UM, GIVE SOME ADVICE SO I DON'T, I CAN PROBABLY STOP THE RECORDING, BUT THEN I WON'T BE PART OF THE SESSION, WHICH IS OKAY.
AND ARMINIA, I GUESS WON'T EITHER.
UM, ED, UNLESS YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING IT.
UM, I MEAN, I COULD STOP THE RECORDING IN FULL AND WE COULD STAY ON THE ZOOM.
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I DON'T KNOW.I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE LEGALLY WE'RE OKAY.
BUT OF COURSE, IN TERMS OF HAVING AN ADJOURNMENT AND A MOTION TO SEEK, MEET WITH LEGAL COUNSEL FOR ADVICE, UM, YOU'LL WANT TO TAKE, HAVE A MOTION AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT VOTE, AND ALSO INDICATE THAT AS PART OF, UH, THIS MEETING WITH COUNSEL, THAT NO VOTES OR DECISIONS WOULD BE MADE ON ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT.
ED, DO YOU WANT ME TO STOP THE RECORDING? STOP THE RECORDING AFTER THE MOTION IN THE VOTE.
YOU WANT SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I MOVED.
I'M GONNA PAUSE THE RECORDING AND THEN I CAN RESTART IT AT THE END TO WHEN WE COME OUT.