* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] HI, WELCOME TO OUR, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING. UH, TODAY IS, UM, AUGUST 4TH. UH, WE'RE STARTING, UM, A LITTLE LATER BECAUSE, UM, OF NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. UH, THE POLICE DID A REALLY GREAT JOB OF ORGANIZING A REALLY FUN ACTIVITY. AND OUR FIRST, UM, UH, GUEST IS, UM, UM, IS CHRISTOPHER LYNN, UM, WHO IS A STUDENT WHO HAS BEEN, UM, WORKING ON, UH, DEVELOPING DRONE LAWS, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR THE TOWN. SO, THANK YOU. PLEASE AGAIN. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON, JUST HOLDING IT OR CLICK IT, JUST PRESS THE BUTTON. THANK YOU SO MUCH, TOWN OFFICIALS, BOARD MEMBERS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I KNOW WE HAVE FOOD AND WE HAVE FESTIVITIES OUT, SO I'M TRYING NOT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME TONIGHT. UM, BUT I'M A HIGH SCHOOLER. I'M A RISING SENIOR AT EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'M ALSO AN INTERN UNDER THE TOWN SUPERVISOR. SO TODAY I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT ONE ISSUE. UM, BUT I KNOW NOBODY LIKES LISTENING TO ISSUES WITHOUT SOLUTIONS. SO HOPEFULLY I'VE COME PREPARED WITH ADEQUATE SOLUTIONS. UM, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP FOR YOU TO DECIDE. NOW, ONE THING YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT ME IS I LOVE DRONES. I DESIGN, I BUILD DRONES FROM SCRATCH. I FLY THEM ALL THE TIME. UM, I EVEN EARN MY FAA CERTIFICATION SO I CAN EARN MONEY, A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY WHILE I FLY FOR SOME REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES ON CENTRAL AVE. GREAT. THAT'S COOL. AND ONE THING THE FAA HIGHLY RECOMMENDS IS THAT YOU CHECK OUT YOUR TOWNS LOCAL DRONE LAWS, CITY LAWS, COUNTY LAWS, STATE LAWS. THEY WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I DID. AND I WAS ABLE TO FIND ONE INSTANCE OF A POLICY THAT RELATES TO DRONES WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. THIS IS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. AND SECTION THREE, SUBSECTION H SAYS, NO PERSON SHALL ENGAGE IN FLYING MODEL AIRPLANES OR KITES OR MANIPULATING ROCKETS, MODEL BOATS OR MODEL CARS, NOR OBJECT OR APPARATUS, EXCEPT AT TIMES AND PLACES AS MAY BE DESIGNATED BY THE COMMISSIONER. UM, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS WRITTEN AROUND THE SIXTIES OR SEVENTIES. AND SO THE ISSUE HERE ISN'T JUST THAT IT'S OLD OR THAT IT'S VAGUE. THEY HAD DRONES, THEY HAD DRONES OF THE LEGAL SIZE IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES. OH NO. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER GOOD POINT BECAUSE DRONE, THE WORD DRONE IS NEVER MENTIONED HERE. THIS EXCLUSIVELY TALKS ABOUT MODEL AIRPLANES, KITES, ROCKETS, HANG ON. MODEL BOATS. HANG ONE SECOND, CHRIS. IT'S, THERE'S A BIG ECHO FROM HIS MICROPHONE. MAYBE JUST GET BACK A LITTLE BIT BACK OFF. A LITTLE BITS ON. OH, THIS ONE'S ON. OKAY. THAT'S, THERE YOU GO. PROBABLY. IS THIS BETTER? NO, IT'S STILL HAPPENING. MAYBE JUST A LITTLE FURTHER BACK FROM IT. OH, SORRY, JUST A LITTLE BACK. IS THIS GOOD? YEAH, YEAH. SORRY. I'M THAT'S OKAY. YOU'RE DOING FINE. UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT JUST THAT IT'S OLD OR THAT IT'S A LITTLE VAGUE. IT'S ALSO THAT WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER, UH, HE TOLD ME THAT THERE WERE NO TIMES AND NO PLACES DESIGNATED FOR ANY OF THESE ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING DRONE FLYING TO OCCUR IN ON GREENBURG PARKS. AND I'M SURE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING. UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, I WORKED TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH TOWN LAWS, STATE LAWS, COUNTY LAWS. I REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT VILLAGES AND TOWNS, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF COOPERSBURG AND THE TOWN OF OYSTER BAY IN NEW YORK. AND I'M TRYING TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH WHAT MAKES A MUNICIPAL DRONE POLICY STRONG AND EFFECTIVE WHILE KEEPING THE RESIDENTS SAFE. SO I HAVE MY FINDINGS, AND THIS WAS SENT OUT IN AN EMAIL, BUT IF YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE IT, I CAN SEND OUT AGAIN, I HAVE A 14 PAGE DOCUMENT, UH, DETAILING MY FINDINGS, MY RESEARCH THAT I HOPE YOU MIGHT TAKE A GLANCE AT AND INVITE YOU TO. AND JUST SOMETHING I WANNA QUICKLY PULL OUT, I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING, IS THIS CHART HERE THAT HAS, UH, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG'S POLICIES, THESE ARE POLICIES ON THE SIDE, AND THESE ARE ALL THE ONES THAT THE TOWN HAS. AND THESE ARE ALL THE POLICIES THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE. AND THEY'RE JUST TWO OTHER ONES HERE. I CAN PASS THIS AROUND OR YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK ONLINE LATER. AND SO MY GOAL IS TO, I SEE, I'M SURE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING, IS TO ESTABLISH A NEW POLICY FOR THE TOWN THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO IT IN A SAFE AND A CAUTIOUS MANNER TO OPERATE DRONES ON TOWN PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE TOWN PARKS. AND SO I HAVE DRAFTED HERE AN ORDINANCE. I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE IT, AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET ANY FEEDBACK, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THAT REVOLVE AROUND THIS. BUT VERY SHORTLY, IT INSTILLS THE SAME POLICY THAT THE PARK RULES CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT IT EXTENDS IT TO ALL TOWN OWNED PROPERTY. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE JUST CAN'T COME TO THE TOWN HALL AND START FLYING A DRONE, RIGHT. HOWEVER, IT DOES INCLUDE A PERMIT SYSTEM THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO FOLLOW ALL THE REGULATIONS OR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO BE VERY MINDFUL ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON TO FILE FOR A PERMIT. [00:05:01] AND THEY'LL BE GRANTED PERMISSION TO FLY DRONES DURING THIS TIME. SO I HOPE THAT THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING YOU FIND NON-CONTROVERSIAL. I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS. WOULD, IF THERE'S A TOWN, UM, EMPLOYEE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, JOE ESE WORKS IN OUR, IS THE COMMISSIONER PARKS, AND HE FLIES DRONES ALL THE TIME. SO HE WOULD HAVE TO GET A PERMIT EVERY TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD, UH, WANNA FLY A DRONE. NO, NO. THIS IS FOR CIVILIAN DRONE USE. RIGHT. AND SO THE, I SHOULD SAY THAT IN LEGISLATION, I KNOW THAT'S THE TITLE ON TODAY'S WORK SESSION, BUT I DON'T SEE IT IN THE LEGISLATION. YEAH, I MEAN, IF AN AMENDMENT WERE TO BE PASSED, THAT WOULD BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THERE. I, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, I'M MAKING THAT MORE SPECIFIC. THANK YOU FOR, ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU HAVE TOWN OFFICIALS WHO ARE USING DRONES AND IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES TO JUST FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, THERE'S PROBABLY ADVANTAGES FOR TOWN TO BE TREATED NO DIFFERENTLY THAN, YOU KNOW, A CITIZEN. BECAUSE IF WE HAVE AN EVENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROCESS AND A REVIEW PROCESS. YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BIG PROBLEM FOR A TOWN EMPLOYEE, I THINK. I THINK IF IT'S A MATTER PERHAPS OF TOWN BUSINESS, LIKE USING THE DRONES TO LOOK AT BLOCKAGES ALONG THE SAWMILL RIVER, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T, THE TOWN EMPLOYEES SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GET PERMITS FOR THAT. BUT, UM, STOP WITH THAT TELEVISING A CABLE SHOW, THEN THEY SHOULD. UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, I'M OTHER HAND IF IT'S AN MURDER, WHAT ABOUT A CABLE SHOW? NO, I'M SAYING IF, IF, IF WE ARE DOING A CABLE SHOW BECAUSE THERE'S A DARK SWIM AND YOU KNOW THEY WANT TO FLY A DRONE, UM, WELL THAT ARE, SO JUST, I JUST WANNA CLEAR, SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU SAYING WHEN JOE LOCA COMMISSIONER OF PARKS AND REC, WHEN HE FLIES THE DRONE FOR OUR EVENTS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YEAH. FRONT OF EVENTS. 'CAUSE WE HAVE A TOWN ARE YOU SPEAKING DIFFERENTLY FOR IF WE HAVE CHRIS WHO WAS NON, THAT IS NOT A TOWN EMPLOYEE, JUST TO COME AND FLY A DRONE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO THAT? NO, I'M, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO WHAT YOUR WORK WE'RE REFERRING TO. MY FEELING IS SPECIFICALLY SAYS CIVILIAN DRONE LAWS CIVILIAN, BUT I'M, I'M, I WAS TRYING NOT THE, BUT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PAUL WAS THAT, BUT THAT WAS HIS INTENT. HE SAID HE WOULD CHANGE THAT. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY HE'S ASKING FOR CONGRESS. RIGHT. NO, MY, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE BASICALLY SAY THE CIVILIAN PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE, I THINK IS EXCELLENT. I FEEL THAT FOR A TOWN EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE WE WANNA HIGHLIGHT JUNETEENTH OR THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR, OR A FAMILY DAY AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR AT VETERAN PARK, PERHAPS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO IS FLYING A DRONE, UH, SHOULD HAVE TO FILL OUT YOU AN APPLICATION FOR THAT. ON THE OTHER HAND, NO, LEMME JUST SAY HAS NOT HAD THAT GOAL. NO, NO. LEMME JUST SAY THAT THAT'S A PART OF THE WORK. NO, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, SOMEBODY LOST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, A LOST HUMAN BEING AND THE POLICE, UM, THE POLICE HAVE TO USE A DRONE THAT WOULD BE EXEMPT BECAUSE THAT'S AN EMERGENCY. YEAH. SO IN SUBSECTION SEVEN, THAT'S EXEMPTIONS. AND THAT CONTAINS, UM, ANY LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, OR EMERGENCY MEDICINE SQUAD. RIGHT. THAT'S ALREADY, THAT'S ALREADY AN AN A POLICY. THAT'S, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. READ. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU, IS IT THE INTENTION TO APPLY THIS TO TOWN EMPLOYEES THAT ARE USING DRONES ON TOWN PROPERTY? I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION I'D SEEK CLARIFICATION ON. I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR GUYS' COMMENTS, BUT I THINK AS A GENERAL PRINCIPLE, CLEAR, UM, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT BE COVERING THAT. AND SO THERE, THERE WOULD NOT BE RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON THAT. HOWEVER, IF THAT WAS NECESSARY, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON. SO YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOUR PROPOSING THIS FOR INDIVIDUALS FOR FOR CIVILIANS. FOR CIVILIANS, CORRECT. OKAY. RESIDENTS. ALRIGHT. SO THEN, ALRIGHT, SO AND THEN SO MY QUESTION IS, SO WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT LAWS, DID YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATE LAWS AND THE COUNTY RULES? BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT REFERENCES AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR THE, OKAY. SO I ACTUALLY JUST NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, IF I COULD COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. WHEN I LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, I FOUND THAT IN MANY CASES THE LAWS THAT THEY HAVE MAY NOT BE FULLY LEGAL IN TERMS OF FEDERAL PREEMPTION. SO I MADE, LIKE, I MADE AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY. AND I'M ACTUALLY IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF THESE MUNICIPALITIES AND WHERE THEY'RE REEVALUATING, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY HAVE AND THEY'RE LIKE, AH, IT MIGHT NOT BE, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. AND WE ALSO HAVE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OPT TIME ATTORNEYS HERE, RIGHT? HAVE YOU SPOKEN, SPOKEN TO? BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANY, WE CAN'T PUT ANYTHING FORWARD UNLESS WE VETTED AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S COMPLIANT. WELL, WE CAN'T PREEMPT THE FC OR THE F-A-A-F-A-A. YEAH. A A OR THE FCC. I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS FANTASTIC WHAT YOU DID. YEAH, NO, THIS IS GREAT. REALLY NEEDED. WE SHOULD ALSO FORWARD THIS TO, UH, THE COUNTY BOARD OF LEGISLATORS BECAUSE, UM, I THINK HE'S HERE FOR COMMENTS FIRST BEFORE WE START FORWARD. NO, BUT I'M SAYING RIGHT. BUT I, I, LIKE, I'M SORT OF THINKING WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY AIRPORT, YOU'RE SEEING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, YOU'RE SEEING, UH, SOME AIRPLANE, UM, POTENTIAL [00:10:01] DISASTERS BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY OF DRONES. AND I FEEL THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, EVERY COMMUNITY IN WESTCHESTER SHOULD BASICALLY BE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SAY IN RY BROOK OR RY, UH, YEAH, THIS TYPE OF LAW POSSIBLY COULD HAVE A BIG POSITIVE IMPACT. I REALLY LOVE THE, THE PREMISE, AND I LOVE THAT YOU DID SO MUCH WORK ON IT, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU FINE TUNE IT. I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU GO OVER IT WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND YOU KNOW, TIGHTEN IT UP ON IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY CONSIDER. SO THIS ALLOWS SOMEBODY TO FLY A DRONE FROM THEIR OWN PROPERTY, TAKE OFF AND LAND AT THEIR OWN PROPERTY. YES. BUT IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT THEM FROM GOING ON TO THEIR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY. RIGHT. IT'S AS LONG AS THEY LAND ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY, UH, AND YOU HAVE A LINE IN HERE, UH, THE PERSON FLYING THE DRONE SHALL PREVENT SURVEILLANCE OF RECORDING OF AREAS WHERE A PERSON WOULD HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. WHERE ARE THOSE, WHERE ARE THOSE AREAS? AND IS IT SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD? SO THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER IN THAT KIND OF PLAYS INTO WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT OTHER MUNICIPALS HAVING POTENTIALLY, RIGHT. IS THAT YOUR PHONE? NOT THE, THAT'S THE MUSIC OUT THERE. OH MY GOODNESS. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YEAH, BUT IT PLAYS INTO MUSIC OUT THERE THAT'S NOT COMING FROM OUT THERE. IT'S OUT THERE, THE DOOR OPEN, SOMEONE'S IN HERE. GO AHEAD. AND SO MANY OF THESE LAWS THAT RESTRICT AIRSPACE ARE ACTUALLY PREEMPTED AND COULD BE STRUCK DOWN. UM, AND SO THE REASON I INCLUDED THAT CLAUSE THERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRIVACY OF THE RESIDENCE IS PROTECTED. AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY FINE TUNED AT THIS POINT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I'M WILLING TO, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON. IF THERE'S A MORE SPECIFIC TERM YOU'D LIKE TO USE OR OR A BETTER DEFINITION, TURN YOUR PHONE. NO, I PROMISE YOU NOT OUTSIDE. THEY KEEP OPENING THE DOORS SO WHEN THEY OPEN THE DOORS, THAT'S WHEN THE MUSIC IS LOUD. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S COMING FROM RAIN AS A FOLLOW UP. I'M WATCHING THE PEOPLE WALK IN AND I HAVE A DRONE. IT FLIES FROM MY HOUSE, IT'S GONNA LAND AT MY HOUSE. I KNOW, BUT THE, WHILE IT'S FLYING, IT'S GOING OVER MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT. YEAH, IT DOES. SO, SO WHAT DID, YEAH, GO AHEAD. WHEN YOU PUT A LOCAL LAW, AND I ASKED YOU TO DO A LOCAL LAW, AND I APPRECIATE THIS, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, NO OTHER INTERN HAS EVER DONE A, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED LOCAL LAW, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT WHEN YOU PUT WORDING IN HERE, EXCUSE ME, YOU JUST OFFENDED SOMEONE. WHAT'S THAT? YOU JUST OFFENDED SOMEONE. OH, YOU WERE AN INTERN. . SHE WAS ACTUALLY OUR INTERN , UM, RECENTLY, RECENTLY, RECENTLY. UM, WHEN YOU PUT WORDS LIKE THAT, WE THEN HAVE TO DEFEND IT. SO SOMEBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T HAVE AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE BECAUSE TO WORK IT OUT LATER, IT MEANS YOU'RE IN A COURTROOM. AND FRANKLY, MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT IF THEY'RE IN THE BACKYARD AND THEY HAVE A FENCE AROUND THEIR YARD AND SOMEBODY'S FLYING OVER, THEY HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF, OF, OF PRIVACY. MM-HMM . WHEN THEY'RE AT POOL OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE, BUT WE CAN'T GIVE THEM THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE BECAUSE THAT'S JUST GONNA RUN UP ATTORNEY BILLS. SO WE NEED TO, WE HIT NEED TO, UH, UH, ZERO IN ON THAT. WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE THE LEGISLATION SHOULD SAY THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO FLY A DRONE, NOT ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN HAS TO GET A PERMIT BECAUSE BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE ISSUES WITH A UTILITY COMPANY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY, THERE'S SO MANY RESTRICTIONS. NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF WE BASICALLY JUST SAY EVERYBODY HAS TO FILL OUT A PERMIT TO USE A DRONE ON PRIVATE OR, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BASICALLY, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS. NO, THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS PRIVACY ISSUES AT ALL. IT DOES. IT DOES. BECAUSE NO, IT DOESN'T. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. SO IF YOU LET ME SPEAK. THANK YOU. BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN YOUR BACKYARD AS, AS COUNCILMAN SHEHAN JUST SAID, AND YOU'RE LYING OUT IN THE SUN OR WHATEVER, AND A DRONE IS FLYING OVER YOU, THAT IS AN INVASION OF YOUR PRIVACY. ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE'S FILLING OUT A PERMIT TO DO THAT, THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE INVASION OF YOU. NOT THEY, THEY, THEY'RE PROTECTING THEMSELF, BUT THEY'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT PROTECTED. SO I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED THAT MYSELF, AND I WAS, I FELT LIKE A LITTLE BIT LIKE I WAS UNDER SURVEILLANCE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW? WELL, IT COULD BE NOTIFICATION. THERE COULD BE NOTIFICATION. LET'S SAY I FLY, IT'S NOT ABOUT NOTIFICATION. SORRY, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN REALLY QUICKLY. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY VALID CONCERN THAT MANY MUNICIPALS HAVE TRIED TO BRI BRING UP. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN CASES LIKE SINGER VERSUS CITY OF NEWTON, WHENEVER THERE IS A, A BLANKET PERMIT REQUIRED BY A LOCAL LEVEL GOVERNMENT THAT'S PREEMPTED BY THE FAA AND THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A SOLUTION THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP. I'M NOT SURE HOW FEASIBLE IT WOULD BE HERE NOW REGARDING THE REASONABLE [00:15:01] EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY EXAMPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S JUST THE LANGUAGE I BORROWED FROM THE STATE LEVEL LAW THAT THAT'S ON SURVEILLANCE BECAUSE, UM, I'M NOT A LEGISLATOR. SO , SO I'M, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE TO WORK OUT THE EXACT DETAILS OF. AND THE ARGUMENT THAT IF YOU'RE LAYING IN YOUR BACKYARD, YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY WHEN THERE'S A DRONE FLYING ABOVE, IT'S THAT THE FAA HASN'T EXACTLY CALMED, THEY'RE VERY VAGUE ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM . BUT THEY ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD BY SAYING THAT YOU CANNOT REGULATE AIRSPACE AND YOU CAN'T MAKE IT SO YOU CAN'T FLY OVER PRIVATE PROPERTY. WELL, WE KNOW THAT THE, WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY, I'M SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY AND PROBABLY THE STATE AND, UH, FLY OVER ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES AND THEY, THEY DO TOPO MAPS AND SO FORTH, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PICKING UP EVERYBODY. UM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT CARS ARE, AND THEN YOU HAVE GOOGLE WHAT CARS ARE IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. THEY DO BLOCK OUT THE LICENSE PLATE. UM, SO I'M NOT SURE THERE IS AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ANYMORE WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR BACKYARD. YEAH. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT BEFORE WE WOULD PASS LEGISLATION STATING THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. ALSO, BECAUSE A DRONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE TYPE OF DRONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT FROM ONE THAT THE COUNTY PERHAPS IT'S GONNA BE MUCH CLOSER. RIGHT? IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY MUCH SMALLER, BUT IT'LL BE MORE INVASIVE OF SOMEONE'S PRIVATE SPACE. RIGHT? IT COULD BE. YEAH. I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO YOUR INTERNSHIP IS ENDING OR IS ENDED, CORRECT? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS MORE OF A INFORMAL INTERNSHIP WHERE I'VE JUST BEEN WORKING UNDER A SUPERVISION. IT'S NOT A FORMAL PROGRAM. THE SUMMER PROGRAM THROUGH THE SUMMER. NO, I DID THAT WHEN I WAS IN EIGHTH GRADE THOUGH. SO OKAY. SO YOU CAN, I THOUGHT YOU WERE PART OF THE SUMMER INTERNSHIP. YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU WERE PART OF THIS, WEREN'T TOLD. SO YOU'RE CONTINUING. I, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, REALLY, THE QUESTION IS IF YOU WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS WORK WITH OUR LAW DEPARTMENT, SPEAK TO THE COUNTY, PERHAPS ABOUT, BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING THE COUNTY AIRPORT WHERE THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE FAA ALL THE TIME. THEY CAN GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THAT PERHAPS. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO ALL THESE CONCERNS AND THAT YOU DO HAVE THAT TIME TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU WILL BE STARTING SCHOOL AGAIN AND YOU'VE STARTED A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT THING THAT YOU'VE DONE THIS, SO I, I HATE FOR YOU TO LEAVE IT UNFINISHED, BUT THAT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON YOUR TIME. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE, BUT, UM, I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY LEVEL. I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE EXECUTIVE, I'VE REACHED OUT TO TWO MEMBERS WHO WERE PRESENT WHEN THEY PASSED THEIR DRONE LAW. AND I'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH SOME OF THE, UM, AIDES, I BELIEVE, TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THAT LAW IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED. UM, SO THAT'S A PRISON RELATED LAW, BUT IT, IT, WESTCHESTER DOES DEAL WITH THE AIRPORTS. RIGHT. UM, BUT THERE WERE, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A RECENT CASE LAST MONTH WHERE CONTRABAND WAS DELIVERED TO A, THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY PRISON. AND THAT WAS A HUGE CONCERN. SO YEAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, IT'S RESTRICTED. THEN THERE'S RESTRICTED AREAS LIKE OUR WATER COURSES AND ALL THAT. MM-HMM . THERE'S AREAS IN THE TOWN THAT'S RESTRICTED. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE MINDFUL AS WE'RE, AS YOU'RE WRITING THIS AGAIN AND REVIEWING ALL THE COMMENTS AND, AND JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND OF THE PROTECTED AIRSPACE. AND I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN HERE BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T FLY. YOU CAN'T FLY A, A DRONE JUST ANYWHERE. BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND I THINK THIS IS A, A GREAT CONTRIBUTION TO THE TOWN AND ACCOUNT OF YOU. I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON DRONE LEGISLATION. UM, SO I THINK YOU SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF YOURSELF, AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW, IT WAS UP TO ME, YOU'D SKIP COLLEGE AND GO RIGHT INTO, UH, UM, UH, LAW SCHOOL. IF I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION, UM, BECAUSE OF COURSE IT ENTAILS, UH, MY OFFICE PROVIDING THE PERMITS. UM, IF YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT OUR, UH, RECENT, UH, CRAFTED LAW ON FILMING, UM, YOU CAN MIRROR IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOTIFICATION. THERE IS, UH, A CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE. SO OUR FILMING PERMIT LAW, NOW YOU CAN MIRROR SOME OF IT TO, UH, TO DUPLICATE THE LANGUAGE AND THEN INCLUDE IT TO THE FAA RULES AND REGULATIONS SO THAT MY OFFICE WILL BE ABLE TO ISSUE THESE PERMITS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN A, UM, EFFICIENT MANNER. AND AGAIN, UH, JUST LIKE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN HABER SAID THERE, THERE IS AN EXPECTA EXPECTATION OF, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, NOISE WHEN THEY'RE FILMING, THEY HAVE TO SIGN A NOISE WAIVER AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE NOISE, UM, ORDINANCE AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A VIOLATION. AND THEN, SO JUST IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT OUR RECENT FILM, UH, [00:20:01] LAW, AND YOU CAN TAILOR IT ALONG WITH THE FAA, JUST A SUGGESTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OF COURSE. THIS IS REALLY EXCITING. THANK YOU. THANK I FIND THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I THINK YOU SAID EARLIER, THIS IS TO MAKE IT EASIER AND SAFER FOR PEOPLE TO FLY DRONES. I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE WOULD FLY A DRONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO 10 DAYS IN ADVANCE TO GET A PERMIT. AND EVEN MORE SO THEY HAVE TO GET A MILLION DOLLAR COVERAGE FROM THEIR, FROM FOR COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR A HOMEOWNER THAT, THAT'S FOR COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS. SO IF THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL CONTRACTOR WHO DOES THAT AS A PROFESSION, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD REQUIRE OTHER LIABILITY INTERESTS. IT SAYS ANYONE SEEKING ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT TO LAUNCH OR LAND AN UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE DRONE AS DESCRIBED IN 44 3 CI THINK YOU MEAN FOUR C. THREE C DOESN'T EXIST AND WILL PARTICIPATE IN COMMERCIAL OPERATION OF SAID UNMANNED VEHICLE THAT THEY WILL NEED TO GET. NOW COMMERCIAL JUST MEANS YOU'RE USING SOMETHING LIKE FLYING OVER. WELL, C IS FLYING OVER TOWN PROPERTY, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? WELL, DON'T YOU MEAN FOR C IT SPECIFIES HERE THAT C APPLIES TO ANY PROPERTIES CONTROLLED BY THE TENANT BERG. RIGHT? ANY PROPERTY. SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR LIABILITY INSURANCE. SO THE TERM COMMERCIAL OPERATION SPECIFICALLY REFERS TO THE FA A'S DEFINITION OF WHEN YOU'RE FLYING A DRONE. THAT'S NOT FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE RECEIVING ANY GOODS, ANY SERVICES, ANY PAYMENT IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR FLIGHT, OR YOU'RE JUST NOT DOING IT FOR FUN, THAT'S A COMMERCIAL OPERATION. AND SO LIKE AN AMAZON DRONE, DOES THAT COVER YOUR CONCERNS? IT DOES, EXCEPT IF THERE'S A GRAY AREA, THE SAME RULE SAY OPT FOR COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? 'CAUSE I WAS BEEN READING THE THINGS MYSELF. SO OPT TO BE CONSIDER YOURSELF COMMERCIAL. UNLESS IT'S VERY CLEAR IT'S FOR RECREATION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT SOMEBODY DOING RECREATIONAL FLYING OVER TOWN PROPERTY WOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S THEIR RECREATION THAT WE'RE HAVING A NIGHT OUT TONIGHT. I MEAN, AND IF THEY'RE FLYING A BIGGER DRONE, THEY FALL INTO THE COMMERCIAL CATEGORY ANYWAY. RIGHT. SO I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, NO WORRIES. THIS IS A LOT. I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR BACK AND FORTH. THIS IS, YOU DID, YOU DID, YOU DID, YOU KNOW, WONDERFUL WORK. UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TAKE ALL OF WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PARTICULARLY DEALING WITH THE, UH, REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. MM-HMM. YOU KNOW, JUST FIX THE, UH, THE, I THINK WHAT PROBABLY HAPPENED IS YOU HAD THREE C AND THEN YOU ADDED A SECTION IN, RIGHT? YEAH. , SORRY. AND THEN EVERYTHING SLID DOWN. I APPRECIATE IN THE ACTUAL REPORT, NOT IN THE LOCAL LAW, YOU KNOW, YOU PROVIDING REFERENCES, YOU KNOW, EXTENSIVE REFERENCES BECAUSE THAT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU DIDN'T QUOTE IT VERBATIM OR AT LEAST YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL, NO, I DIDN'T CHECK THAT . BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S JUST REMARKABLE THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS. I JUST THINK, UH, WE NEED TO REFINE THIS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT. MM-HMM . THANK YOU MUCH. WHAT'S THAT ONE QUESTION? SO, UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, AERIAL DISTANCE. SO LIKE, DID YOU CONSIDER THE HEIGHT OF THE DRONE? I THINK THAT'S COVERED BY THE FAA AS FAR AS LIKE IF IF YEAH. IF A LICENSE APPLIES OR NOT, RIGHT? UM, BUT IS THAT CONSIDERED OR YOU JUST KIND OF LET THE FAA HANDLE THAT? YEAH, SO THE FAA DOES COVER HEIGHT, IT'S 400 FEET OR IF YOU'RE WITHIN 400 FEET OF A BUILDING, YOU CAN GO LIKE ABOVE THAT, BUT AS LONG AS YOU STAY WITHIN 400 FEET OF SOME OBJECT, UM, THE REASON WHY I DIDN'T IMPOSE A HEIGHT RESTRICTION IS THE FA A CAN GET A LITTLE TOUCHY ON THAT. THEY DON'T REALLY LIKE IT WHEN YOU MESS WITH AIRSPACE. AND SO I OPTED THEY WOULD BE BETTER NOT TO, EVEN IN TERMS OF LIKE DISTANCING, THAT CAN GET REALLY SKETCHY. AND SO I CHOSE NOT TO, BUT I THINK REGARDING THE, YOU KNOW, WANTED INVASION, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT SOME POLICIES DO HAVE WHERE YOU CAN'T FLY THE DRONE AND YOU'RE LOOKING IN SOMEBODY'S BEDROOM WINDOW WITH THE DRONE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S VERY OBVIOUS AS OPPOSED TO BEING, YOU KNOW, 350 FEET UP, YOU KNOW, DOING A PLAN VIEW GOING DOWN. ALRIGHT. BUT WE HAVE TO REFINE THAT OTHERWISE WE GIVE THEM EXTRA WORK. , I WOULD LOVE TO REFINE THAT. WHAT ABOUT MULTIPLE, UH, DRONES, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF DRONES THAT COULD FLY, SAY FROM ONE PARK? OH, FROM ONE PARK? I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE TOWN CLERK WHO'S ADMINISTERING THE PERMITS. IF THERE'S LIKE A HIGH VOLUME AT ONE SPECIFIC SPOT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, OR THAT WOULD BE UP TO, OR THE PARKS COMMISSIONER. YEAH, THE PARKS COMMISSIONER CAN ALSO, THEY DON'T ISSUE PERMITS. NOT IN TERMS OF ISSUING THE PERMITS, BUT IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING THE PARAMETERS. SURE. YEAH. I'M COMPLETELY OUR OWN VIDEOGRAPHER FLIES A DRONE. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAITING 18 DAYS WHEN THERE'S A FLOODED, YOU KNOW, FLOODED BRIDGE. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, WE [00:25:01] NEED TO GO IN AND CLEAN IT OUT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S IF, IF IT'S LIKE IT SAYS ON THE, THE AGENDA, WHICH IS IT'S, IT'S A CIVILIAN HOW WE DEFINE CIVILIAN, WE'LL HAVE TO DO BECAUSE POLICE ARE GENERALLY NOT CONSIDERED CIVILIANS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK THAT OUT. SURE. LET ME ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION. YOU'RE GONNA BE ON THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD. UM, HOPEFULLY, AND MAYBE YOU COULD BRING THIS UP ALSO TO THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD AND UH, ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK AS WELL. THEN MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE LIKE A TARGET OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH A, UM, DRAFT LEGISLATION THAT COULD BE SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING MAYBE IN OCTOBER. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE ALMOST THERE ON THIS, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE CA GAVE OURSELVES SOME SORT OF A TARGET DATE, SO, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE LEGISLATION OF, UM, PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD FOR PUBLIC HEARING SOMETIME IN OCTOBER. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE HEARING AND THEN WE COULD, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE COULD ADOPT SOMETHING THIS WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL STAY ON TRACK AND WE'LL MOVE AHEAD. THAT'S THIS TIMELINE. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THIS. SO I, I I DON'T, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT TIMELINE. UM, BUT I, I WILL SAY I DO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN, UM, THE PCA, A POLICE ADVISORY BOARD. MM-HMM . WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU COME TO OUR MEETING. AND OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF WILL BE THERE AS WELL AND HE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. AND WE CAN PUT YOU IN CONTEXT. AND I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY A WORK SESSION WOULD BE BETTER. 'CAUSE WE WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD THIS TIME AT A REGULAR TIME BOARD. RIGHT. SO WE WANNA, AND THIS IS A GOOD, THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION. DISCUSS, WE JUST MENTIONED THAT I DID TALK WITH THE POLICE COMMITTEE, UH, THE ADVISORY BOARD BEFOREHAND. AND SO THAT'S HOW I INITIALLY GOT STARTED BY HEARING OUT WHAT THEY WANTED AND HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THIS TOPIC. SO MM-HMM . YES. I THINK I CAN CHECK BACK IN. AND DID YOU LOOK TO SEE, UH, IF ANY OF THERE ARE ANY VILLAGE CODES IN GREENBURG ABOUT, UH, DRONE RECREATIONAL DRONE USAGE? YEAH, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN ON LONG ISLAND AND IN UPSTATE NEW YORK. SO THERE'S NOTHING ON THE BOOKS IN THE VILLAGES? NOT THAT I COULD FIND. INTERESTING. SO YOU'RE SAYING IN WESTCHESTER, IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY, NO TOWN OR VILLAGE LEVEL REGULATIONS WAS TO FILE I KNOW PEOPLE, MUNICIPALITIES HAVE YOU DIDN'T MEAN ANYWHERE NEAR US. . OH, ON LONG ISLAND AND UPSTATE NEW YORK. COUNCILMAN SHEEN. UH, YOU HAD STATED THAT, UH, IT'S A CONCERN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TOWN EMPLOYEES. IS THERE, UH, WOULD IT BE A SUGGESTION JUST TO, WITH THE EXCEPTIONS, BECAUSE A TOWN EMPLOYEE IS CONSIDERED A CIVILIAN TO ADD THE TOWN EMPLOYEE AS UNDER EXCEPTION. THEY'RE NOT A CIVILIAN. THEY'LL BE CONSIDERED AS AN EMPLOYEE. THEY'RE AN EMPLOYEE. SO THEY WILL FALL UNDER US. THEY WOULDN'T FALL UNDER, WE HAVE TO WORK VERY DIFFERENT. BUT THAT'S, WE HAVE OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AND THAT'S WHY OH, SORRY. ARE YOU HERE? OKAY. . NO. SO, BUT THAT, BUT THAT IS, THEY'LL BE CONSIDERED AS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS PART MUNICIPALITY, NOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO NOW OUTSIDE OF THAT. SO UNLESS THEY'RE FLYING, WE GOT SOME TIME. WE HAVE SOME WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE AND THAT'S, CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU IN SEPTEMBER. GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. RIGHT. AND, AND CHRIS, THANK YOU. BECAUSE YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS. YEAH. AND YOU, YOU REALLY THOUGHT IT THROUGH. AND ANY QUESTION WE'VE HAD, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE, THAT YOU'VE DONE THE BACKUP AND YOU'VE DONE THE RESEARCH AND I COMMEND YOU ON THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU AS MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRIS. OKAY, COOL. I'LL JUST NOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, YOU CAN SEND IT OVER TO LEGAL AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT. OKAY. IS THERE A GOOD EMAIL FOR THAT? LEGAL AT GREENBERG? I CAN SEND IT IN. UM, MR. DANKO. OH, OKAY, GOOD. YOU DOING GOOD? GREAT. I SEND TERRIFIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALSO TOWN CLERK, SO I CAN ALSO PUT IT IN THE NOTES AS WELL. SURE. TOWN CLERK@GREENBURGNY.GOV. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. GREAT. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. SO JUST BEFORE WE ARE ABOUT TO, UM, ADJOURN OR MOVE, MOVE OVER TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, WE WILL BE HAVING OUR JAZZ CONCERT THIS THURSDAY, SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. UM, I HAD THE NAME OF TOP OF MY HEAD AND I'M FORGETTING THE NAME, BUT WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. AS A REMINDER, THERE WILL BE FOOD, WE'RE HERE, WE'RE OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE, UM, OUR SMALL BUSINESSES WHO COME OUT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A VENDOR, PLEASE CONTACT TINA DINKINS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SHE'S ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING TO, UM, TO VENDOR. BUT AGAIN, WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE ON THURSDAY. CONCERT STARTS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, SO CHRIS QUARTET, COUNCILWOMAN. SO YEAH. BUT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN, THE JUSTIN ROBINSON QUARTET. YES. AND WHAT IS THEIR SPECIALTY? THEIR HARLEM RE JAZZ RENAISSANCE. OH NO. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE REALLY APPRECIATE SO MUCH. OH, OH, OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SO SORRY. FORGIVE ME. CAN CAN THIS, [00:30:01] YOU CAN LEAVE. I'M SORRY CHRIS. SO I'LL SEE YOU. I'LL SEE YOU. I'LL SEE YOU IN SEPTEMBER. SO MUCH. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY YOU THE LIAISON TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT FAMILY DAY? UM, SURE. I DIDN'T , I DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE THAT UP. OH, GO, GO. YOU GO AHEAD. NO, I, NO, IT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE IN, IN ADDITION TO THURSDAY JAZZ CONCERT, WE HAVE OUR FAMILY DAY THAT WE'LL BE CELEBRATING AT TDYC. SO PLEASE COME OUT A GA ANOTHER DAY OF COMMUNITY CELEBRATION, FOOD FUN. UH, YOU WANNA HAVE A, YOU WANNA HAVE TIME WITH YOUR KIDS AND LET THEM GO AWAY AND YOU CAN HAVE FOOD COME OUT AND CELEBRATE WITH, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY. WHAT DAY AND TIME? THE DATE, THE DATE AND TIME. I'M TRYING TO FORWARD OVER TO YOU. OKAY. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S STARTING AT 12, 12 TO SEVEN. I BELIEVE IT IS THIS SATURDAY. THIS, YES. THIS SATURDAY. THAT'S WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE. 8TH OF AUGUST. YES. 12 TO, I THINK IT'S 12 TO NINE MAYBE TO, I KNOW IT'S TO DUS. SO WE WHATEVER THAT, WHATEVER THAT TIME IS TO DUS. SO, BUT IT, WE ARE STARTING AT 12. THERE ARE, AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT, HAVE FOOD, CELEBRATE, THERE'S BOUNCY HOUSES, THERE'S ENTERTAINMENT. IT'S JUST A DAY OF FUN. SO PLEASE COME OUT AND CELEBRATE US, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE LINEUP YET, SO WE CAN'T ANNOUNCE THAT, BUT WE CAN POST THAT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE. MM-HMM . SURE, SURE. JUST SEND IT TO ME OR JOE AND, UH, WELL AFTER THURSDAY. OH YES. AFTER THURSDAY. BECAUSE I NEED TO MAKE SURE WE, WE GET THAT OF COURSE AFTER THURSDAY. BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. NO, I'M CONFUSED. AND, UM, YOU CAN'T DO, YOU CAN'T DO TWO THINGS AT, AT THE SAME TIME. AND THE FAIRVIEW EMPOWERMENT, UH, GROUP IS HAVING A MOVIE NIGHT, UH, AT TRAVIS PARK ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 15TH. UM, AND, UH, BEGINNING AT 4:00 PM UH, TO SEVEN 30, THERE'LL BE A COMMUNITY, UH, UH, PICNIC. UM, AND THE ARTS AND, AND COORDINATION. WESTCHESTER ARTS MOBILE WILL BE ON SITE OFFERING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES FREE HANDS ON ART ACTIVITIES LED BY PROFESSIONAL TEACHING ARTISTS. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET CREATIVE AND MAKE ART TOGETHER. AND THERE'LL BE A LIVE DJ SPINNING MUSIC THROUGHOUT THE PICNIC. UM, AND, AND THAT'S IN COORDINATION WITH OUR PARKS AND REC. YEAH. AND THE, UM, IN ADDITION, THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM INITIATIVE EXHIBIT, UM, WILL BE AT, UM, AT THE, UH, EVENT. AND THE MOVIE ON AUGUST 15TH IS, UH, DISNEY'S ZOOTOPIA 2 7 40 5:00 PM IS WHEN THE MOVIE STARTS AT TRAVIS HILL. AND YOU HAVE TO BRING YOUR OWN CHAIRS AND I THINK FOOD TOO, RIGHT? THAT THEY SAY. RIGHT. UM, BUT MAINLY THE CHAIRS, WATER, SOMETHING TO DRINK, WHATEVER, AND ADMISSION IS FREE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, NEXT, UH, MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, DISCUSS MATTERS LEADING TO THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, PROMOTION, AND OR REMOVAL OF PARTICULAR PERSONS PROPOSED, PENDING, AND OR CURRENT LITIGATION AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. SECOND. SECOND. NO IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. AND WE WILL SEE YOU THURSDAY AND SATURDAY. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. LOOKING FORWARD TO 8 24. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.