[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ]
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TODAY IS AUGUST 5TH, 2020 SIXTH.
THIS IS THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD MEETING IN A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE LOCATION.
I'M GOING TO TAKE ATTENDANCE WHERE? OH, TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UM, WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE CAN PROCEED WITH THIS MEETING.
WE ARE HERE TO REVIEW TWO APPLICATIONS.
UM, WE WILL START WITH TWO 80 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
MAY I ASK YOUR NAME? YEAH, MY NAME IS DIANA KONICK.
I'M FROM PHILLIPS LIDLE HERE ON BEHALF OF, DO YOU HAVE A PART OR SOMETHING SO THAT I SPELL YOUR NAME CORRECTLY? THE A THERE YOU GO.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH TWO 80 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
THE UM, WHICH IS A SUBMISSION ON BEHALF OF AT AND T MADE, MADE BY YOUR FIRM IS, AND I'M SORRY, STEVE, WHAT IS THE NAME? AARON
THIS FIRST SUBMISSION WAS ON THE 10TH OF APRIL, 2025.
IT WAS REVIEWED ON THE 15TH OF APRIL 20, 25, 5 DAYS LATER.
THE SECOND SUBMISSION WAS ON AUGUST 13TH, 2025.
IT WAS REVIEWED ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025, SIX DAYS LATER.
THE THIRD SUBMISSION WAS ON THE 10TH OF NOVEMBER, 2025.
THE CLOCK WAS STOPPED BY STEVE IN THE 10TH.
YES, WE ARE, UM, ON THE 14TH OF NOVEMBER.
THE MEETING WAS HELD ON THE 18TH OF NOVEMBER.
THE FOURTH SUBMISSION WAS DONE ON THE 13TH OF JANUARY, 2026.
IT WAS REVIEWED ON THE 16TH OF JANUARY, 2026, WHICH WAS THREE DAYS LATER.
AND THE FIFTH SUBMISSION WAS ON THE 6TH OF APRIL, 2026.
IT WAS REVIEWED ON THE 13TH OF APRIL, 2026, WHICH WAS SEVEN DAYS LATER.
AND THE SIXTH SUBMISSION WAS ON THE 3RD OF AUGUST, 2026.
AND WE ARE MEETING TODAY ON THE 5TH OF AUGUST, 2026, WHICH IS TWO DAYS LATER TO REVIEW IT.
WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE DEEMED IN COMPLETE WHEN WE LAST REVIEWED THE APPLICATION.
AND A, B, C, AND D WERE DEEMED COMPLETE AS WERE E-F-G-H-I-J-K-L AND MN WAS NOT DEEMED COMPLETE.
SO IF YOU GO TO N IF YOU GO TO THE FOLLOWING INTRO LETTER, IF YOU GO TO FORTUNE, THEY'RE NOT NUMBERED.
AND WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, THERE'S A WAY THAT THEY ALSO DID IT THAT FIRST WE, YOU KNOW, IN F THEY NOW INCLUDE WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR.
I THINK WE WILL PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF EXPOSURE ON THE ROOF, UM, AND USE THE EXAMPLES PROVIDED TO YOU FOR, UM, WORK APPLICATIONS BY OTHER PROVIDERS FOR OTHER SITES.
AND IF YOU GO TO THAT, THAT IS NOW THERE, IT HAS THE, TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT.
AND IT ALSO HAS THE GRADING OF THE SECTION THAT IS MARKED AS AS HAZARDOUS OR WARNINGS.
SO FROM MY EYE, THAT'S COMPLETE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT.
AND THE CHANGE WAS MADE FOR THREE, UM,
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TO BUY 1 31 INSTEAD OF ON 1 31.AND IT SAID ADD IN THE APPLICATION THAT AT AND T IS NOT ADDING ANY LIGHTING AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY NOW.
IT SAYS AS THEIR LAST POINT, T IS NOT ADDING ANY LINING AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY EXISTING LIGHTING.
SO THAT WAS OUR OBJECTION THERE ABOUT THE LIGHTING COMPONENT.
THEREFORE WHAT, THEREFORE ARE YOU GONNA MARK THAT COMPLETE? IT WAS, THERE IT IS.
I KNOW IT WAS INCOMPLETE AND IT NOW, NOW IS COMPLETE.
U WAS COMPLETE AS WAS V ALL ELEMENTS OF THE INSURANCE.
THE ONLY THING I ASK IS THAT YOU CHECK THAT THE DATE, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA EXPIRE SEVEN THERE.
YEAH, WE HAD UPDATED WAIT UNTIL IT EXPIRES, BUT I MOVE THAT WE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEEM THIS APPLICATION COMPLETE.
OKAY, SO WE MAKE A NOTE THOUGH.
THE INSURANCE, THAT'S, IT WAS DEFINITELY COMPLETE LAST TIME BECAUSE THERE, YEAH.
SO I MEAN THAT DEFINITELY COULD GET THAT VP.
TIMES INSURANCE WON'T GIVE OR TO YOU THERE.
IT WON'T GIVE YOU LIKE AN LONGER PERIOD.
SO ERODED HERE, INITIAL IT, IT'S HERE.
SO THEN, UM, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? YOU GET THE VP, ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL US THAT OR YOU HAVE TO THEN SUBMIT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE NUMBER THEY REQUIRE? THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE SAME NUMBER.
THIS PROCESS DOES, AND THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER PAPERS THAT THEY REQUIRE.
SO OKAY, WE GIVE THIS TO THEM AND THEN YOU GET TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
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AND THAT'S, AND GET YOUR PERMIT.SO WHO'S THE LEAD HERE? INITIAL NEXT TO STEVE HAS BEEN INITIALLY YEAH, HE SHOULD DO IT.
AND HE'S THE, I PAUSE THE RECORDING.
YES, PLEASE PAUSE THE RECORDING SO THAT YOU CAN GO UPSTAIRS AND GET THE STAMP SO THAT WE CAN LET THEM BE ON THEIR WAY.
FRANCIS HAS JUST BROUGHT BACK THE STAMPED COPIES OF THE COMPLETE APPLICATIONS FOR TWO 80 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ONE ATTORNEY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELL, I GO BACK TO BUFFALO TOMORROW.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO OVER, JUST GET 3 0 1 DASH 3 0 5 OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD.
THE FIRST SUBMISSION WAS MADE ON THE, IN 2024 IN DECEMBER 10TH, 2024.
AND IT WAS REVIEWED DECEMBER 16TH, 3 24, WHICH WAS SIX DAYS LATER.
THEN IT RESURFACED AS THE SECOND SUBMISSION IN MARCH 13TH, 2026.
UM, IT WAS REVIEWED ON THE 16TH OF MARCH, 2026, WHICH WAS THREE DAYS LATER.
THE THIRD SUBMISSION WAS, UM, ON, IN JUNE 12TH, 2026.
AND IT WAS REVIEWED ON THE 18TH OF, UH, JUNE, 2026, WHICH WAS SIX DAYS LATER.
AND THIS IS THE FOURTH SUBMISSION, WHICH, UM, WAS MADE ON THE 31ST OF JULY, 2026.
AND WE WERE REVIEWING IT ON THE 5TH OF AUGUST, 20, 26, 5 DAYS LATER.
UM, WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WERE DEEMED INCOMPLETE LAST TIME.
AND WE HAVE, UM, A, E, C AND D WERE COMPLETE.
E, F, G, HIJ AND K WERE COMPLETE.
F WAS, I'M SORRY, L WAS COMPLETE.
M WAS COMPLETE, N WAS NOT COMPLETE.
IT SAID REVIEW, REMOVE SENTENCE REGARDING INTERFERENCE TO A REPORT, CITING CUMULATIVE IMPACT, GIVING EACH PROVIDER A 10 TO 20 FEET, ET CETERA.
THE CU CUMULATION AND THE CUMULATIVE, I'M SORRY, AMOUNT PER DISTANCE.
IT ALSO SAID THESE SPECIFICATIONS ARE BASED ON N ONE AND NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS PART TOO.
SO THAT'S WHY A, AND THAT'S WHY ONE AND TWO WERE INCOMPLETE.
IF YOU LOOK AT SUBMISSION, UM, THERE ARE NO PAPER.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY HAVE NOTED IN THE NARRATIVE EACH ONES WERE COMPLETE.
AND IF YOU GET TO IT, AN END WE'LL SEE IN RED THAT THEY WERE DEEMED A COMPLETE, UM, I DON'T IT, IT SAYS, UM, THEY REMOVED THE SENTENCE, WHICH I DID.
I, WHEN I WENT AND LOOKED, I COULD NOT FIND THE SENTENCE ANYMORE.
SO, UM, THIS WOULD BE WHAT IS, WHAT IS CONFUSING HERE IS WHEREIN THE LAST TIME THEY PROVIDED THE, I DON'T SEE IT NOW, WHERE TO LOOK FOR THIS, LIKE IN THE LAST APPLICATION WE JUST REVIEWED, IT SAID TAB F, I'M NOT SURE WHICH TO LOOK FOR HERE.
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EITHER OF YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS, UM, WHERE WE WOULD FIND THIS.THE SENTENCE WAS REMOVED REGARDING THE INTERFERENCE AND THE NEW REPORT IS THERE.
AND IF YOU GO TO, SO AFTER THE PAGE THREE LISTS ALL OF THE, UH, ANTENNAS AND THEIR CARRIER.
THAT'S NOT THE PAGE FOUR, PAGE FIVE, PAGE SIX, PAGE SEVEN.
HERE WE GET TO AT T AND T-MOBILE IS COMPOSITE.
SUPPOSED TO BE CUMULATIVE? YES.
THE NEXT PAGE HAS CALCULATED POWER DENSITY AS WELL.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PAGER? IT MIGHT JUST HAVE BEEN A, A REPRINT, EXCUSE ME, I THINK IT'S JUST A REPRINT.
T-MOBILE PERCENTAGE OF MPE AND ONE SAYS T-MOBILE COMPOSITE POWER DENSITY.
WHAT IS THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THESE TWO PAGES? ONE IS THE DENSITY AND ONE IS THE FREQUENCY BAND AND THE, THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENCES.
SO THEY HAVE THE POWER DENSITY AND THEY HAVE THE CALCULATED MP.
THIS IS THE REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME BY THE RF TEAM AND IT STATES THAT THE SITE IS COMPLIANT.
I'M ASKING FOR THE CHART THAT WE ASKED JUST AS WE FOUND IT IN TWO 80 CENTRAL NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
I'M ASKING YOU TO TELL ME WHICH OF THESE YOU BELIEVE IS THAT CHART, THE CHART, THE FIRST CHART THAT YOU'RE REFERRED TO.
WHICH ONE IS THE FIRST CHART? SO THAT IF WE COUNT THE PAGES, THE ONE THAT CALCULATED A NUMBER, THEN FRANCIS NUMBERING PAGES IS VERY HELPFUL.
PAGE THAT SAYS, IT SAYS SO CALCULATED AT THE TOP.
SO IT'S APPENDIX FEE OR IS IT THE CALCULATED? IS IT, YES.
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MAXIMUM AND MINIMUM AMOUNT OR LEVEL OF RADIO FREQUENCY ADMISSIONS.SO AGAIN, WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO PAGES AND WHICH ONE ANSWERS SPECIFICALLY THAT? SO THAT WOULD BE PAGE EIGHT.
'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE NARRATIVE, IT SAYS BASED ON ANALYSIS, THE MAXIMUM CALCULATED COMPOSITE EXPOSURE AT GROUND LEVEL FROM UPGRADE AT T FACILITY, PLUS ALL EXISTING ANTENNA SYSTEMS ON THIS SITE IS TWO, UH, 2.949% OF THE GENERAL POPULATION MPE LIMIT AT A POINT 240 FEET NORTH OF THE FACILITY, THE UPGRADE IS FULLY COMPLIANT WITH FCC RULES AND REGULATIONS C, APPENDIX B UH, FOR DETAILED RESULTS OF THE CALCULATIONS PER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO IF WE LOOK AT THE TABLE WITH THIS ON PAGE EIGHT, IF YOU GO DOWN TO 240 FEET, YOU WILL SEE THE COMPOSITE MPE IN ALL CARRIERS OF 2.949.
WHY IS IT NOT THE CENTER TWO 40 SOUTH OF, BECAUSE THE GROUND DROPS AWAY.
240 FEET SHOWS WHERE THE HIGHEST POINT IS THE ELEVATION DROPS AWAY.
SO THESE ARE ACTUALLY, IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THESE SHOULD BE MULTIPLIED BY A HUNDRED TO GET A PERCENTAGE.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THESE ARE ACTUALLY FRACTIONS OF A PERCENT? NO, IT'S TWO POINT.
SOME OF THEM YES, ARE FRACTIONS OF A PERCENT.
THE MAXIMUM IS IN BOLD THERE AND THE MAXIMUM IS 2.949%.
SO WHEN WE TAKE, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS AT AND TS AND THIS IS A T AND T MOLD, RIGHT? WELL THERE'S A BAND HERE OF 700 TO 3,700, RIGHT? CORRECT.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT SHOULD BE ALSO T-MOBILE? NO, THE T-MOBILE IS IN THE NEXT COLUMN.
THIS MIRRORS THE PREVIOUS REPORTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
WE WERE REQUESTED TO CHANGE THE FORMAT FROM THE LAST SUBMISSION.
AND THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE RF COMPLIANCE TEAM AND THEY REVISED THE REPORT PER THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE LAST MEETING.
SO IF I GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE APPLICATION THAT I HAVE AT HOME ON T-MOBILE, IT'LL SAY 0.0010 FOR THEIR, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST FIND THAT VERY CURIOUS.
JUST THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE REMARKABLY LOW.
SO, SO AT 700 FEET IT'S 2%? NO, 700 IS THE FREQUENCY.
THE FEE IS IN THE FIRST COUNT.
SO IT'S THE FREQUENCY OF 700, IT'S 2% AT 240 FEET, CORRECT? OH, CORRECT.
THOSE ARE THE FREQUENCY GOING ACROSS.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT T-MOBILE IS AT THAT 700 FEET BECAUSE, WELL, T-MOBILE RIGHT AT THAT IS 0.001.
MPE, THE TOTAL PERCENT OF MPE AT THAT DISTANCE, I DON'T RECALL SEEING NUMBERS THIS LONG BEFORE NO.
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AND YOU'RE SURE THEY DIDN'T JUST FORGET TO MULTIPLY BY A HUNDRED TO GET TO A PERCENTAGE? THEY STILL I AM, I'M, I'M NOT THE EXPERT.WHO IS UPSTAIRS? I SAID IS IS THE DEPUTY STILL UPSTAIRS? YEAH.
MAYBE THEY COULD PULL UP THAT REPORT FROM T-MOBILE.
DOES T-MOBILE'S ON THAT SITE? NO.
WHEN, WHEN THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, I THINK IT IS.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO, CAN YOU PULL UP THE, UM, APPLICATION BY T-MOBILE 3 0 5 DASH, UH, 3 0 1 DASH 3 0 5 OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD? WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THEIR CHART AND ANSWER TO THE QUESTION N ON NEAR LEVELS.
I THINK IT WAS IN 2024 FOR SOME REASON.
OH, AM I RIGHT? OH MY GOODNESS.
I'M GONNA MISS ON THE LOLLIPOP LINE TWO.
YOU SHOULD HAVE IN ANSWERS TO IT'S LETTER N IN THE APPLICATION.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE CHARTS FROM THAT.
THEY SHOULD HAVE, THEY SHOULD HAVE A CHART INCLUDED IN THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO COME UP AND GET IT? OKAY, I'LL BE UP IN A MINUTE.
I JUST HAVE TO LET ME IN THAT DOOR.
SO IF YOU WANNA PAUSE WHILE I GO UP AND GET THEIR REPORT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO I JUST CAME DOWN FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY PRINTED ME UP THE PINNACLE TELE, UM, TELECOM GROUP REPORT WITH 3 0 1, 3 0 5 TAR OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD FROM NOVEMBER.
AND THE REPORT IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
THEY DO THE MEASUREMENTS OF DISTANCE SO EVERYONE SETS CLEAR, UM, FRANCIS THAT WE'VE TALKING ABOUT AND
NO, THAT'S NOT, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT YOUR, SO THIS IS T-MOBILE,
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RIGHT? AT DIFFERENT IT IS SPECTRUM Y.YEAH, THERE IS, THERE ARE THINGS DIFFERENT ABOUT THE ANTENNAS AND, AND POWER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THE NUMBERS WHEN YOU ADD THEM UP SHOULD BE CUMULATIVE.
RIGHT? LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT THE EXPERT.
I NEED, NEED TO TAKE THIS BACK.
I THAT'S, THIS CHART DOES NOT REFLECT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN HELD GIVEN IN THE PAST.
AND THE WAY IT'S IDENTIFIED, IT IS ALSO NOT IDENTIFIED AS CU.
UM, IT'S, I THINK COMPOSITE MEANS THE SAME AS CUMULATIVE ALL CARRIERS.
AND THAT PROVIDES THE ADDITIONS IN THAT LAST COLUMN THERE.
FRANCIS, DO YOU SEE A TWO 40? IT SAYS 0.0010 PERCENTAGE DE MR AS I'M READING SOMETHING, YOU'RE AT T YOU'RE TAKING T-MOBILE'S CUMULATIVE.
DON'T HAVE T-MOBILE'S CUMULATIVE ON THERE.
WE, WELL, WE HAVE THE TOTAL AND IF WE SUBTRACT OUT THE AT AND TS, WE SHOULD GET THE T 12 TO REPORT THOSE LINE UP.
IF YOU LOOK, 'CAUSE T-MOBILE HAS THEIR, YOU'RE RIGHT, FRANCIS, IF YOU, IF YOU DEDUCT THAT, YOU SHOULD HAVE, RIGHT? SO LET'S LOOK AT THE TWO FOUR.
SO WE TAKE 2.6 AND SUBTRACT BASICALLY 1.1.
SEE WHAT I'M DOING? I, SO HERE'S T-MOBILE.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S THEIR CUMULATIVE.
SO THIS IS T-MOBILE PLUS AT AND T 2.6.
AND WE SUBTRACT OUT AT AND T, WHICH IS 1.1 THAT YOU GIVE US 1.5 AND WE HAVE 0.001.
LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT THE EXPERT, SO THAT'S RIGHT.
SO PLEASE TAKE THIS BACK TO YOUR, YOU JUST ASK THEM FOR AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT IT WAS AND IF THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS? I DO.
THAT'S WHY THEY WELL THEN YOU BRING THIS, I'M I'M BRING THIS BACK TO THEM AND ASK THEM TO EXPLAIN IN WRITING BECAUSE AS YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE NOT THE EXPERT.
ASK THEM TO EXPLAIN IN WRITING THE DIFFERENCE.
AND AND, AND EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE TAKING THE TOTAL, WE'RE SUBTRACTING OUT AT AND T TO GET DO, UH, I WILL HAVE THEM PROVIDE AN A WRITTEN EXPLANATION AND EXPLAIN WHY IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THIS IF IT DOESN'T.
SO THE SENTENCE HAS BEEN REMOVED, BUT THE CHART IS NOT AT THIS MOMENT ACCEPTABLE.
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YOU SAYING COMPARE, IS THIS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THAT? YEAH, YOU MIGHT WANNA DO LIKE A LITTLE LINE.THAT'S BECAUSE IF THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOR THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOR THAT DO THAT.
SO I'M GOING TO RUN AN ARROW FROM HERE TO HERE.
COMPARE, UM, COMPARE CHART FROM T-MOBILE SUBMISSION WITH ONE SUBMITTED.
UM, THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO SYNC EXPLAIN DIFFERENCE OR CORRECT.
THREE WAS COMPLETE, O WAS COMPLETE.
HE, I BELIEVE THEY CORRECTED THE MR. THE DIFFERENCES WERE THAT NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER SEVEN CONTRADICTED EACH OTHER.
ALSO SAID IT ABUTS A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
UM, AND THEY CORRECTED THAT SENTENCE AND CORRECTED THE PARAGRAPH ON PAGE THREE.
BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THE TWO OF YOU WOULD GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN AND CHECK AND THE SEARCH AND THOUGHT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WAS IT CONTRADICTED ITSELF IN IT.
UM, BY SAYING IT ABOUT A RESIDENTIAL MEDICINE.
AND THEY CORRECTED THAT AND THAT WAS SEVEN AND THEY CORRECTED PARAGRAPH ON PAGE THREE, PARAGRAPH TWO.
SO IT IS IN, IT'S IN IT IS RESIDENT.
WHICH SAID SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE THAT'S SAID.
THEREFORE, WELL I'M JUST LETTING YOU CHECK THEREFORE I THINK IT'S COMPLETE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE OTHER PEOPLE TO, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE REPORT.
Q WAS COMPLETE, R WAS COMPLETE, S WAS NOT.
AND WE HAD MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH S.
UM, MATERIALS FOR ALL ITEMS WAS THE FIRST ONE.
AND IF YOU LOOK HERE, I TRIED TO FIND MORE MATERIALS FOR ALL ITEMS BEYOND I FOUND IT FOR THE ANTENNAS BUT I DIDN'T FIND IT FOR ALL I OTHER ITEMS. IF ANYONE FINDS THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WE HAD, IT WAS WHAT'S REQUIRED AND US IS MATERIALS FOR ALL ITEMS. OH, OKAY.
AND THEY ADDED MATERIALS FOR THE ANTENNAS AND GAVE US, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ON THE PLANS IN SECTION SECTION SIX.
I DID NOT FIND MATERIALS FOR OTHER ITEMS. ARE THE MATERIALS
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ALL EQUIPMENT, IF YOU GO THROUGH PASTE THROUGH SECTION SIX, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE EQUIPMENT, WHETHER IT'S BEING INSTALLED ON THE TOWER, THE FIRST TWO ITEMS, THE ANTENNA AND THE NEXT PAGE OF THE TRIPLEX THAT GOES ON THE UH, FLARED COLD.WHAT'S IT MADE OF? I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT IS IT MADE OF? IT'S PLASTIC AND ELECTRONICS.
IS THAT ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER? NO, IT IS NOT CORRECT.
WHEN IT SAYS MATERIALS, IT MEANS WHAT IS IT MADE OF? AND IN THE VERY FIRST ONE IT DOES SAY THAT IT SAYS FIBERGLASS, LIV RESISTANT ALUMINUM.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE OTHERS, I DON'T SEE IT.
SO DON'T HAVE, WE NEED MATERIALS FOR ALL.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT PER SECTION 64 0 9, THAT THIS IS NOT REQUIRED PER FEDERAL LAW.
NUMBER TWO, I BELIEVE THEY STATE ABOUT LIGHTING AND I HAVE TO FIND IT.
LIKE IN THE LAST APPLICATION WE HAD, IT SAID AT T HAS NO LIGHTING AND WILL ADD NO LIGHTING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS ADEQUATE ON HERE.
IF AN INCIDENT, PLEASE DIRECT US ASSIGNED IT FOR JUST A SEC.
UM, LI WAS ADDED TO PAGE CO2, THE CENTER, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE UH, THE LAYOUT.
IT SAYS EXISTING LIGHTING, CORRECT? IS THAT AT T'S LIGHTING? THAT IS THE LIGHTING FOR THE POLE BELONGS TO THE POLE.
WILL THERE BE ANY ADDED UH, ADDED LIGHTING? NO.
DOES AT T HAVE ANY LIGHTING? NO.
SO A GOOD SENTENCE TO ADD TO THIS IS AT T HAS NO LIGHTING IN ADDING NO LIGHT COLOR OF ANTENNAS, ET CETERA.
AND THE I IF YOU KNOW WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING, PLEASE TELL US.
THAT'S JUST A STATEMENT STATING THAT THE COLOR OF THE ANTENNAS THAT'S NOT ON THE DRAWINGS.
IT WAS NOT MADE CLEAR TO ME THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE DRAWINGS.
AND THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT I HAD WAS STATED THAT IT WAS INCORRECT.
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SO I ADDED A STATEMENT.COLOR OF ANTENNAS IS GRAY INCLUDED WITH THE ANTENNA CUT SHEETS AND THEY WILL NOT BE VISIBLE COLOR OF TRIBE.
CAN YOU PLEASE POINT TO WHERE THIS IS? SO THIS IS IN MY RESPONSE LETTER, WHICH IN SECTION ONE, LOOKING AT SECTION ONE.
AFTER YOUR UH, AFTER, I'M SORRY.
AFTER THE LET PREVIOUS RESPONSE LETTER THAT IS RECEIVED BY YOU FROM JUNE 18TH, THE TOWN CHECKLIST.
FOLLOWING THAT, WHERE DO I SIT AT? SO JUST STAY IN SECTION ONE? YEAH, THERE YOU, AFTER THE TOWN CHECKLIST ARE ALL OF THE RESPONSES THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY MARKED COMPLETE.
AND IF YOU GO TO THE SECTION ON THE DRAWINGS, WE'RE AN S NOW, CORRECT? WE SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTING WHEN WE ASK YOU ABOUT LIGHTING IS IN YOUR LETTER IT SAYS THERE IS NO LIGHTING PROPOSED FOR THIS MODIFICATION.
THERE IS NO LIGHTING PROPOSED FOR THIS MODIFICATION.
WE WOULD'VE OF COURSE LIKED IT TO SAY AND THERE WAS NONE BEFORE.
BUT THERE IS NO LIGHTING PROPOSED FOR THIS MODIFICATION.
INSTEAD YOU SENT US TO THE DRAWING WHERE IT HIGHLIGHTS THE LIGHT.
THAT BECAUSE ON THE DRAWING THE COMMENT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS, THAT THERE WAS NO LIGHTING SHOWN ON THOSE DRAWINGS AS EXISTED.
YOU ASKED FOR THE EXISTING LIGHTING TO BE SHOWN ON THE DRAWINGS.
I'M JUST READING THE DIRECTIONS OVER HERE TO BE DELINEATED.
OKAY, THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO ADD ADD.
AND IT HAS NO LIGHTING ON THE DRAWINGS BECAUSE HERE YOU SAY THIS MODIFICATION WON'T ADD ONE.
WELL IT, IT'S NOT ADDING ONE AND IT'S NOT AT T, RIGHT? IT'S FOR THE POLE BUT IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED.
IT IS IDENTIFIED ON THE DRAWINGS.
NO, IT SAYS THIS IS THE LIGHTING.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHOSE LIGHTING.
WHERE DO WE FIND THE COLOR OF WHAT YOU SAID THAT YOU DIRECTED US TO S.
SO IN RESPONSE NUMBER TWO, GO PAST S PART OF YOUR COMMENTS BELOW THE NEXT PAGE IT SAYS RESPONSE.
SO FOR SIGNAGE IS ADDED, IT SAYS IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POLL.
IS IT ON THE POLL? IF YOU GO TO SECTION SEVEN YOU WILL SEE PHOTOS.
AND THIS IS THE ONE SIDE IN THE BASE END.
SO WHAT WE REQUIRE IS, AND I BELIEVE WILL SAY ON YOUR DRAWINGS, AS YOU DIRECTLY POINTED OUT, IT HAS TO BE ON A RINS.
SO GOING TO A PICTURE DOESN'T DO THAT.
WELL THAT'S THE PICTURE OF THE CROWN SIGN.
THE AT AND T SIGN THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED IS ADDED TO THE DRAWINGS.
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SEE THE DESIGNATION OF WHERE YOUR SIGN WILL BE.IT'S ON THE PROPOSED AT T AND TOWER OR SIGN OR TO THE SIGNS TO BE INSTALLED AT THE FLAG POLE BASE.
IF THERE'S THAT MEAN ON THE FLAG POLE BASE? YES.
OR ON THE GROUND? NO ON THE FLAG POLE BASE.
WE'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH CROWN BEFORE.
YEAH THE CROWN, THE SIGN WAS ON THE GROUND WITH MY LAST SUBMISSION.
WHEN YOU GO TO SECTION SEVEN, YOU WILL SEE THE CROWN HAS PLACED THE SIGN ON THE TOWER WHEN IT'S THAT LOW.
HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH SNOW? IT'S ALMOST ON THE GROUND.
I GOT A WARNING THAT PEOPLE GET THAT IF IT'S SNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM IN ON THAT BASE WHERE IT IS INSTALLED.
THAT MAKE DID THEY MAKE THAT FACE SOLELY SO THEY IT LOOKS AT NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE THE CABLE COMES UP FROM ON THE GROUND.
IF YOU LOOK WITH CO2 A IT SHOWS YOU THE BETTER CABLE OF IT.
NO, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND IT'S NOT INCLUDING WHAT WAS
THAT'S WHEN IT'S BEEN SITES LIKE ON TO 81 PROBLEM WE DID FIVE AND SIX.
SO WHAT WE NEED IS MATERIALS FOR ALL ITEMS AND INCLUDE THE DATE.
THIS NOT AT T'S LIGHTING OR NOT LIGHTING BUT WE NEED MATERIALS FOR ALL AND OTHERWISE THE OTHERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED OR OR SO THAT THEREFORE, THEREFORE AS IS, HAS THE CROWN SIGN NO LONGER ON THE GROUND? UH, IT SHOWS WHERE THE SIGN'S GONNA BE IT SEVEN NO BELOW 11.
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SO TO MY EYE THEREFORE IT'S COMPLETE WITH THE INSURANCE.YOU WANTED THEM TO REMOVE THE LANGUAGE THAT SAID IT'S REQUIRED BY BEFORE IT WAS HIT REQUIRED BY, BUT NO, IT SAYS AS REQUIRED.
WE NEED TO FIX THE NAME OF THE TOWN.
ALL THE WAY THE IT SAYS GREENBERG.
YEAH, BUT IT GREENBERG RE BREE.
OH I THOUGHT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
KEEPING THE LAST ONE IS INCOMPLETE TO FIX SPELLING THE NAME OF THE TOWN WE DID THAT.
I DIDN'T REALLY, I DIDN'T CHECK IT.
GREEN GREEN NEW YORK PUT THE N IN.
SO WHAT THAT MOVES US WITH IS A B, C-D-E-F-G-H-I-J-K-L-M-R COMPLETE AND IS NOT COMPLETE.
COMPARE CHARTS FROM T-MOBILE SUBMISSION WITH ONE SUBMITTED.
THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO SYNC EXPLAIN DIFFERENCE OR CORRECT THE UM, THREE OF N IS COMPLETE.
QRR COMPLETE S STILL NEEDS MATERIAL FOR ALL ITEMS. AND AT AND T HAS NO LIGHTING AND WILL BE ADDING NO LIGHTING INCLUDE T IS COMPLETE, U IS COMPLETE.
AND BECAUSE IT NEEDS THE SPELLING OF THE TOWN OF GREENVILLE, FIX THE SPELLING OF THE NAME OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEEM THIS APPLICATION INCOMPLETE.
OKAY FRANCIS, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THIS TO LOOK AT BECAUSE YOU ALL FIND PLACES I APPLICATION DATE.
THEREFORE HOW OFTEN AM I GONNA HEAR THEREFORE NOW
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NUMBER ONE YOU HAVE A ONE AND A TWO, YOU INITIALED TWO.MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT MY INITIALS FOR OUT.
I'M SURE YOU WERE JUST CHECKING OUT YOUR INITIALLY MEANS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAID.
YOU NEED ANY EXPLANATION? OKAY.
SO IN REGARDS TO 14 NER LEVELS, YOU WANT AN EXPLANATION EITHER WHY THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION BY T-MOBILE AND AT AND T DO NOT MATCH OR, UH, WHY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
IS THAT CORRECT OR CORRECT? IT? WHAT'S THAT? OR CORRECT IT? SO THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS, CORRECT IT EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OR WHAT WAS THE ONE.
BUT I THINK YOU, THE WAY YOU PHRASED IT IS IT'S NOT WHY THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION DOESN'T MATTER.
IT'S WHY DOESN'T YOURS MATTER? PREVIOUS MATCH? THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION.
OKAY, SO I JUST WANNA PUT IT DOWN ON MY NOTES HERE.
SHOULD, SHOULD WHAT I WROTE, SURE IT'S RIGHT THERE.
SO RIGHT NOW IT SAYS COMPARE COM UM, COMPARE CHART FROM T-MOBILE SUBMISSION WITH ONE SUBMITTED.
THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO SYNC EXPLAIN DIFFERENCE OR CORRECT, BUT HE IS INTERPRETING THAT AS TO WHY T-MOBILE'S DOESN'T AGREE THAT IT'S THEIRS.
THEY, THEY HAVE NO WAY OF FIGURING OUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
OKAY, SO SO YOU CAN'T RECREATE THOSE MEASUREMENTS.
WHY AT AND T REPORT DOES NOT MATCH T-MOBILE'S PREVIOUS, CORRECT? YEAH.
IT'S WHY I I CLOSED THE PAGE ALREADY.
WHY THE WHERE DID WE BUTTON? IT SAYS FOUR.
WHY THE CUMULATIVE, WHY YOUR STATED CUMULATIVE T-MOBILE COMPOSITE POWER DENSITY DOES NOT MATCH THE 2024 SINGLE AUGUST WHEN YOU TAKE THE TOTAL MPE PERCENT AND SUBTRACT DOWN TO AT TE PERCENT.
WHY THAT DIFFERENCE DOES NOT MATCH THIS NUMBER IN THE REPORT.
HOW DO YOU WANT THAT SPELLED OUT? ALL I GOT WAS WHY DOES AT T CUMULATIVE NOT REFLECT NOT SYNC? I USED THAT ALREADY AND THAT WAS NOT CLEAR TO YOU.
I WROTE WHY DOES AT T CUMULATIVE
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AND YOU HAD LANGUAGE YOU THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE AT T CUMULATIVE ON ON THEIR REPORT ON WHO'S THERE AT AND T'S CURRENT BULLS.FROM FROM 2026, RIGHT? NOT MATCH THE T-MOBILE.
OH, YOU WAITING FOR ME
WE SUBTRACT THE TOTAL MPE AND MAYBE THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POWER DENSITY AND N PE.
THE POWER DENSITY YOU SAID? YEAH.
SO COMES THEY'RE HEADING HERE IS POWER DENSITY VERSUS MP BRIAN, DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MD AND POWER DENSITY OR WE DON'T.
AND THAT MAY BE THE, THAT MAY BE THE DIFFERENCE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING DIFFERENT LIMITS.
CAN YOU READ THAT? WHY DID YOU PUT A QUESTION MARK AFTER TO 2024? WHY DOES IT NOT? THAT'S BECAUSE IT STARTS WITH A Y.
OH, YOU DOING IT? BUT THAT'S THE SENTENCE.
BUT THEN YOU GO ON TO SAY, WHEN YOU SUBTRACT THE POWER DENSITY, THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION MARK GOES.
INITIALLY ALSO, IT WOULD BE NICE WHEN YOU COME BACK THAT WE HAVE, WE NEED UNITS THAT MATCH.
BECAUSE EVEN GOING ACROSS HERE, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEGAHERTZ AND THEN OVER HERE YOU GET TO POWER DENSITY, WHICH IS, UM, MEGAWATTS.
ACTUALLY SHOULD WE ADD THAT ONE? THAT THIS ONE'S MEGAHERTZ AND THIS ONE'S MEASURED.
NO, THESE THIS IS YEAH, MEGAHERTZ.
THIS I, I I'LL ASK 'EM TO EXPLAIN IT.
I I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT, THAT THE FORMULA IS.
WHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED UNITS THAT MATCH.
I'M GOING TO ADD THAT BECAUSE THAT, THAT COULD VERY WELL BE, COULD VERY WELL BE THE DIFFERENCE.
IS IT IN
YEAH, I THINK IT'S SAYING THE SAME THING.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT THE EXPERT, SO I'LL LET THE EXPERT WAY I'M INTERPRETING.
I'M INTERPRETING THAT ALL OF THIS IS THE CUMULATIVE FOR EACH OF THE DISTANCES
I'M INTERPRETING THIS AS WHAT THEY TOOK FROM THEIR COMPETITORS CUMULATIVE.
TELLING US ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES.
SO WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M TAKING THE TOTAL MM-HMM
WHICH I WOULD THINK WOULD BE THIS ADDED TO THE CUMULATIVE OF THIS MM-HMM
AND SO FOR US TO GET WHAT THE CUMULATIVE OF THIS IS, WE TAKE THIS, SUBTRACT THIS AND THAT GIVES US THE CUMULATIVE ABOUT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE IF THEY GAVE US COLUMN AT THE VERY END FOR WHAT THIS CUMULATIVE OF ALL THESE ARE.
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THAT WAS THE SAME TYPE OF FORMAT, RIGHT? THAT WAS REQUESTED.SO, BUT HERE THEY CHANGED THE UNITS ON US AND THAT'S, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT BEFORE.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, SEE IF THEY CAN GIVE US SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WHY CHANGE UNITS?
I I I'M JUST SAYING I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE UNITS BEFORE, BUT I THINK THEY HAVE A MEETING OF MINES.
IT'S ON IT'S RECORDED AND WE HAVE, WE, WE KNOW IT USE CONSISTENT UNITS.
WE WOULD ACTUALLY BEEN SAY, HAVE YOU TAKEN A LOOK? I WOULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY THAT THE FORMAT AND UNITS OF THE 2024 REPORT, IT'LL MAKE IT SO MUCH EASIER.
SO WE CAN GET THIS DONE NEXT TIME.
THAT'S WHY I SENT IT TO HIM REPEATEDLY RECORD GIVEN TO YOU.
I'M GOING TO ASK EITHER YOU OR THE DEPUTY TO ADD THIS TO THE, HAS TO FINISH INITIALLY.
OH, DID YOU LOOK IT ALREADY? I JUST JUST WROTE A NEW ONE.
SO THE STATEMENT, DOES IT HAVE TO BE ON THE DRAWINGS FOR I'M AT 19 S MATERIALS FOR ALL ITEM.
NO, YOU DON'T, YOU CAN SUBMIT JUST WHAT YOU SUBMITTED.
BUT IN, IN AN ATTACHMENT HERE YOU HAVE IT ON, BUT THE MATERIALS ARE ONLY FOR THE ANTENNAS THAT YOU SUBMITTED IT.
YOU DIDN'T SUBMIT IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
WE DO NORMALLY GET IT AS A PAGE OF THE DRAWINGS, BUT IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE THAT.
BUT YOU DO NEED TO SUBMIT ALL THE MATERIALS INVOLVED.
AND THEN THERE HAS TO BE A NOTE ON THE CDS OR IS A STATEMENT IN THE LETTER STATING THAT THEIR AT AND T HAS NO LIGHTING AND THEY'RE NOT ADDING ANY LIGHTING.
IT SHOULD BE IN THE NOTES ON THE DRAWINGS.
AS YOU CORRECTLY POINTED OUT ON THE DRAWINGS, YOU GO,
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THAT'S ME.IT JUST, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THAT'S ME.
THAT'S SO THAT'S YOU RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE, I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING IN MINDS NOW.
IF YOU CALL HER, I WON'T GO UP IF SHE'S NOT THERE.
AND YOU HAVE THAT ABSOLUTELY ANSWER.
UH, YOU WANT ME TO PAUSE THE RECORDING? YES, PLEASE PAUSE THE RECORDING SO THAT YOU CAN GO UP AND GET THE COPIES MADE AND STAMPED SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE IT TODAY.
WHO HAS TO GO? IT'S YOU WHO HAS TO GO UP? I OFFERED FRANCIS HAS RETURNED WITH THE DATE STAMPED APPLICATIONS DEEMED INCOMPLETE ON THE, AND HE HAS ATTACHED ON THE BACK SIDE, HE IS ATTACHED.
THE EXAMPLE THAT WE STRESS DOES NOT MATCH WHAT WAS SUBMITTED.
UM, I'M PRESENTING YOU WITH YOUR COPY.
YOU WITH A COPY? I ME WITH A COPY.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.