* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ] EVENING EVERYONE. TODAY IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH. TIME NOW IS ABOUT 5:40 PM AND WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH OUR WORK SESSION. SO FIRST ON THE AGENDA WILL BE THE FLEET VEHICLES, AND WE'LL START WITH CHIEF POWELL. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. IS THAT COMING OVER? GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING, OR GOOD EVENING. SO, UM, I BELIEVE I'M HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE, UH, TWO CHEVY TAHOES FOR, UH, EMS FLY CARS, FLY VEHICLES, 56,220 PER VEHICLE. UM, I KNOW THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED THE TWO CIVILIAN PARAMEDIC FLY CARS. UM, I DID SPEAK WITH DPW CO COMMISSIONER MORDO. UH, THERE'S NO ISSUE ON THE DPW END WITH THE TWO VEHICLES. CAN YOU PLEASE, SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT A FLY CAR IS? THESE ARE THE VEHICLES USED BY OUR, THEY ACTUALLY WILL BE USED BY OUR CIVILIAN PARAMEDIC SUPERVISORS TO, UH, RESPOND TO CALLS, UH, WHEN NECESSARY TECH CALLS SUPERVISED EMS PERSONNEL. UM, BUT THEY ARE PARAMEDIC VEHICLES. THANK YOU FOR NOT JUST THE TOWN, BUT ALSO THE VILLAGES. ARE ALL THE FLY CARS THE SAME? UH, PRIMARILY. RIGHT. 'CAUSE WHAT I'M REALLY HAVING AN ISSUE WITH IS I'M SEEING THERE'S FOUR, THERE'S PRIUS, THERE'S HIGHLANDERS, THERE'S THIS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR REPAIR SHOP TO KEEP PARTS FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT CARS. AND SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO STANDARDIZE ON WHATEVER CARS THERE ARE AS BEST WE CAN. RIGHT. AND QUITE OFTEN WE ARE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE WHAT WE NEED WHILE STILL BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. SO THAT IS SOMETIMES WHY WE MIGHT NOT ALWAYS LOOK AT THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLE, BUT, UH, THESE PARTICULAR VEHICLES FOR WHAT WE WANT TO USE THEM FOR. SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER MODO. THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THESE VEHICLES. WITH REGARDS TO WHAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP AND THE REPORT, DO WE HAVE OTHERS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE THE SAME MAKE AND MODEL? UH, I MEAN, I CAN'T SWEAR WITHOUT CHECKING THE SPREADSHEET, BUT WE HAVE TAHOES IN OUR FLEET. THESE ARE NEW TAHOES. SO, YOU KNOW, FROM YEAR TO YEAR THERE ARE DIFFERENCES. BUT AGAIN, WITH REGARDS TO THE PARTS AND REPAIRS, I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER MODO NOT AN ISSUE FOR THESE TWO VEHICLES. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HE TOOK THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AS TO WE WE'RE MAKING IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DO IN, IN-HOUSE REPAIRS BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAINTAIN THE PARTS. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERTISE ON THE DIFFERENT MODELS AND MIX AND MODELS. WE, WE HAD AN EXTENDED CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK. HE DID, UH, LAST WEEK. YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT UP WITH THE WORK SESSION, UH, FOLLOW UP, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS CONCERNED THAT, UH, I HEARD THAT WE'RE SENDING MORE AND MORE VEHICLES, UM, OUTTA STATE AND NOT DOING THE REPAIRS, UM, INTERNALLY. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE, ALL THESE VEHICLES ARE BEING DONE BY THE REPAIR SHOP RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PRIVATIZING IT WHEN, WHEN DPW CAN REPAIR THEM, THEY REPAIR THEM. WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DEALER, THEY GO BACK TO THE DEALER. THAT QUESTION WOULD BE BETTER POSED TO DPW. RIGHT. UH, DO YOU THINK WE COULD NEWS SO THEY'RE NOT GOING BACK TO A REPAIR? HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T BE. DO YOU THINK WE COULD, UH, ASK, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER TO COME DOWN AND JUST DISCUSS THE WHOLE ISSUE OF, UH, THE REPAIR SHOP AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOW WE COULD SCHEDULE HIM SURE. SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY. I THINK WE SHOULD SCHEDULE, AND I'VE ASKED HIM AND HE SAID THAT THERE'S NO REPAIRS DONE OUT OF STATE. SO WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT? I HEARD THAT FROM, UM, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON, AMANDA MENTIONED THAT SOME REPAIRS. I PEOPLE THOUGH. BUT YOU'RE MAKING ACCIDENT ACCUSATION. I'M ASKING A QUESTION. SO I'M JUST ASKING IF THE COMM, WE COULD CALL THE COMMISSIONER. YOU CAN SCHEDULE TO COME IN SO WE CAN HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION JUST ON REPAIR SHOP. I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT. WE CAN SEPARATE AS A SEPARATE TITLE. OKAY. I'M JUST ASKING. I THINK WE SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF OUR TWO OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE HERE SO WE CAN DISCUSS ABOUT WHAT, WELL, FRANCIS WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE REPAIR SHOP. SO I'M JUST FOLLOWING UP ON, UH, YEAH, I WAS FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR QUESTION. YOU, YOU WERE THE ONE WHO RAISED THE FACT THAT WE'RE SENDING IT OUT, SENDING OUT VEHICLES. I DIDN'T SAY THAT. I DIDN'T SAY WE'RE MAKING IT DIFFICULT. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE TAPE AGAIN. WHAT I SAID WAS, WE NEED TO STANDARDIZE THE CARS SO THAT WE DON'T GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE A REPAIR SHOP CAN'T HANDLE ALL THE PARTS. THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, WE HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT PARTS DEPARTMENT IN OUR REPAIR SHOP, BUT IT MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, UNTENABLE IF EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT CAR FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT MAKE DIFFERENT MODEL. I NEVER SAID THAT WE'RE DOING THIS OUTTA STATE. AND WHEN I HAD THAT QUESTION, I ASKED THE COMMISSIONER OF DPW AND HE SAYS HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. WELL, AND YOU ARE NOT GONNA TELL US WHO TOLD YOU THAT. AND THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM. WELL, AMANDA, LAST WEEK, UH, AT THE WORK SESSION INDICATED, UH, SHE INDICATED THAT THERE ARE, UH, VEHICLES THAT WERE, UM, UH, BEING SENT OUTTA STATE TO THE REPAIRS. I REMEMBER THE, I REMEMBER THAT. AMANDA DIDN'T SAY THAT. [00:05:01] I DON'T REMEMBER THAT AMANDA SAID THAT. AMANDA SAID, WHEN I, I BROUGHT, I BROUGHT THAT UP AND AMANDA DID. YOU GUYS SAID, OH, THERE'S SOME REPAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, SENT OUTTA STATE. THAT WAS THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION OR WAS THAT OPEN SESSION? 'CAUSE I'LL GO, I'LL GO BACK AND TAKE IT WAS OPEN SESSION. NONE OF US REMEMBER HEARING THAT WAS OPEN. I DON'T RECALL. WE COULD, WE COULD NO. LOOK INTO IT. NO, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. BUT NO ONE HEARD THAT SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO BE SENT TO THE BRONX, BUT THAT'S NOT OUTTA STATE. OKAY. WELL I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S NEW. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. MATTER OF FACT, I THINK YOUR, UM, PINSTRIPING OF YOUR VEHICLES IS, IS WE DON'T DO THAT. WE SEND THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, TO DO THE, UM, PUTTING ALL THE POLICE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF ON IT. MM-HMM . SOMETIMES WE SEND THAT OUT. OKAY. BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS BASICALLY DAY TO DAY REPAIRS, OIL CHANGES, WHATEVER IT NEEDS. BREAKS, YOU KNOW, BREAKS, YOU KNOW, UM, EVEN TRANSMISSIONS. OUR PEOPLE DO, BUT IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT WHEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT MAKES AND MODELS. SO AS BEST WE CAN, THAT'S ALL I SAID WAS WE SHOULD TRY TO STANDARDIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE CHEAPER NOW TO GET A DIFFERENT CAR, BUT THEN WE PAY FOR IT IN THE LONG RUN. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE AND HOW TO SAVE MONEY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS OF THANK YOU SIR. PARKS AND TDYC AND IN COMMUNITY RESOURCES. SORRY. SO, UM, THE PIECE THAT I KNOW WAS ON THE BID FOR, UH, A NEW VEHICLE WAS A HIGHLANDER. UM, WHAT IS THAT? TOYOTA HIGHLANDER? UH, THE EXACT SAME MODEL AS WE HAVE ALREADY, BUT IT'S UH, I GUESS TWO OR THREE YEARS NEWER. UM, IT IS A SEVEN PASSENGER, WHICH FALLS IN LINE WITH DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO BE USED AS A VEHICLE THAT CAN TAKE KIDS IF NECESSARY WITH A DRIVER. UM, THAT IS ESSENTIAL FOR US AT THIS MOMENT. AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. UM, THIS WAS PUT IN VERY EARLY, UH, BEFORE WHATEVER CHANGE HAS COME THROUGH MORE RECENTLY THAT I'M NOT AS TOTALLY UP TO DATE WITH. UM, BUT UH, AND I KNOW DAVE HAS DONE WHAT WAS ASKED TO DO FOR THE NEW REQUIREMENTS TO PUT IT IN. AGAIN, WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY WHO WE'RE GETTING IT FROM IS JUST, WE'VE BEEN HOLDING THIS CAR FOR A LONG TIME, WE CAN HOLD IT MUCH LONGER. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IT. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE EXISTING HIGHLANDER? 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY THREE YEARS. UH, IT'S, IT'S BEING KEPT AS WELL. OKAY. THI THIS WILL BE MORE OF A, UM, UH, THAT THE CAR WE CURRENTLY HAVE DAVE AND I TO DO MOVING AROUND AS WE HAVE TO DO HOW MANY PASSENGER FOR US? AND IT IS ALSO A SEVEN PASSENGER SO THAT IF IT'S NEEDED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, IT CAN BE USED FOR THAT. BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET ANOTHER ONE TO DO THE SAME THING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UM, LOWER NUMBERS OF VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE AT THIS TIME THAT CAN MOVE KIDS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. UH, THE, UM, THE CURRENT HIGHLANDER, HAS THAT BEEN REPAIRED IN THE REAR REPAIR SHOP? UM, IT HAS NOT NEEDED ANY REPAIRS. I THINK THE LAST TIME IT WAS IN WAS FOR THE NEW CAMERA SYSTEM ABOUT OIL CHANGE, THE DOING WELL. OH NO, IT HAS, IT DEFINITELY GETS THOSE FOR SURE. AND THAT'S IN THE REPAIR SHOP? YES, AS IN OUR REPAIR SHOP HERE. GREENBURG IN OUR STATE. STAY IN OUR STATE. , YOU'RE BAD. COME ON. COME ON. COUNCILMAN HABER WASN'T ME. , I'LL LET YOU TAKE THAT ONE. IT WAS GOOD THOUGH. IT WAS A GOOD ONE. ITERATE. ALRIGHT. I LOVE IT. OKAY, COMMISSIONER CHEI. THANK YOU. . WE, UH, WE ARE REQUESTING THREE VEHICLES. THEY'RE ALL REPLACEMENT VEHICLES. THEY WERE ALL SUGGESTED BY DPW TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE OF THEIR AGE. UM, I CAN GO THROUGH 'EM ONE BY ONE AND WHAT THEY SUGGESTED BE REPLACED BY THESE PARTICULAR MAKE AND MODELS. YEP. THEY, AND THEY CAME WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY GAVE US. VEHICLE 1 0 9 IS ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE I INTERRUPT YOU AGAIN. UM, WHICH MEANS I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU AGAIN. UH, DO WE HAVE THE SAME MAKE AND MODEL CURRENTLY? YES. IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? WE DO. AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHY THE, UM, SIT BACK. IT CAME FROM DPW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY GAVE US. VEHICLE 1 0 9 IS A REPLACEMENT VAN. IT'S USED BY, UM, UM, OUR, UH, FIX IT GUY. I, WE HAVE, AND HE'S NOT A CARPENTER, BUT HE'S A MAINTENANCE MECHANIC. UM, THE VAN THAT HE IS DRIVING RIGHT NOW IS A 2014 FORD TRANSIT. IT'S TOO SMALL TO HOLD ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED. SO WE'RE GONNA GET A FULL-SIZED VAN THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY DPW. UM, RIGHT NOW THE PRESENT VAN HAS 51,000 MILES ON IT. THE DOOR IS FALLING OFF ON THE SIDE. UH, THE MAINTENANCE, THE, UM, I THINK THE TRANSMISSION IS GETTING READY TO GO AND IT SPENDS MORE TIME DOWN IN REPAIR THAN IT DOES ACTUALLY ON THE ROAD. SO THAT IS A VEHICLE THAT WE REALLY ABSOLUTELY NEED. COULD YOU JUST GIVE US SOME INSIGHT [00:10:01] AS TO HOW THIS CAR HAS A DOOR FALLING OFF? WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU OPEN IT INCORRECTLY, THE DOOR WILL SLIDE OFF OF THE, UM, THE RAILS THAT COME ON. SO WE ACTUALLY DON'T USE THAT SIDE DOOR ANYMORE. IT'S, IT'S 'CAUSE IT'S A MAINTENANCE VAN. DOESN'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE BACK, NO REPAIR SHOP. CAN'T FIX THAT. THEY CAN'T FIX THAT. AND SO, UM, WE JUST USE THE BACK DOOR NOW TO GET EVERYTHING IN AND OUT OF IT. SO THAT'S VEHICLE 1 0 9. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE. IT'S NOT A NEW VEHICLE VEHICLE. UM, THE NEXT VEHICLE IS VEHICLE ONE 12. VEHICLE ONE 12 HAS BEEN OFF THE ROAD SINCE JUNE. UM, AND WE'VE BEEN RUNNING AROUND WITH LESS VEHICLES THAN NORMAL. UM, IT'S REALLY CAUSING QUITE A PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOAD UP, UM, A LOT OF OUR STAFF AND OUR CUTTING CREWS AND MOVED THEM FROM PLACE TO PLACE WITH NOT AS MUCH VE NOT AS MANY VEHICLES AS WE NEED. IT'S A CREW CAB. IT'S FOUR BY FOUR, IT'S GONNA COME WITH A STAINLESS STEEL PLOW. UM, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE THIS ONE BACK ON THE ROAD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND IT'S REPLACING A 2010 MODEL WITH THE OVER 89,000 MILES. UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN REQUESTED BY, UM, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE COME HERE AND FOR ALL THESE VEHICLES HERE, IT'S DPW THAT IS REQUESTED THAT WE GET NEW VEHICLES. SO THESE ARE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME IN THE REPAIR SHOP. OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT ONE. AND THE NEXT ONE IS VEHICLE 1 0 2. THAT ONE IS GOING TO REPLACE A FORD EXPLORER THAT, UM, HAS ALSO BEEN TAKEN OFF THE ROAD. DPW IS AWARE OF THIS ONE. SO THE FORD EXPLORER HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A A TOYOTA RAV4 PRIME, A TOYOTA RAV4 PRIME IS ONE THAT PLUGS IN. YOU GET 40 MILES TO THE GALLON ELECTRIC. AND IF YOU USE IT AROUND THE AREA LIKE WE DO, UM, I HAVE ONE, I HAVE ONE THAT I USE AND WE'VE HAD IT FOR TWO YEARS. AND I'VE USED TWO TANKS OF GAS IN TWO YEARS. SO THE SHORT, UH, ELECTRIC, UM, USAGE OF THE CAR HAS REALLY BEEN, UH, PERFECT FOR US IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. SO WITH THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FORD EXPLORER HERE, UM, OUR PRIMARY VEHICLES FOR THE COMMISSIONER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, AND PARK SUPERINTENDENT GETTING IN AND AROUND THE PARKS WILL BE ALL ELECTRIC. OKAY. OCCASIONALLY WE MAY HAVE TO USE GAS, BUT LIKE I SAID, TWO TANKS AND TWO, ONE TANK A YEAR HAS BEEN WHAT IT'S BEEN. UM, AND THE CAR WE'RE REPLACING IT WITH IS FORD EXPLORER. IT'S, UM, IT'S ON ITS LAST LEGS. I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT ANY OF YOU IN IT TO DRIVE AROUND. OKAY. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, EACH ONE OF THESE VEHICLES WAS REQUESTED BY DPW, UH, REPAIR SHOP AT THE TIME. UM, UH, AND THEY WERE THE ONES THAT SUGGESTED IT. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND ONE THAT'LL BE IDENTICAL. DO YOU KNOW WHO'S REPAIRING OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES? THAT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HAD TO REPAIR IT AND WE HAVEN'T HAD TO REPAIR ANY OF THEM SO FAR, INCLUDING THE LITTLE SHORT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE LITTLE SHORT PRIUS ALL ELECTRIC ONE PRIUS? NO, IT'S NOT A PRIUS. IT'S UM, VOLT CHEVY. IT'S LIKE A CHEVY. CHEVY VOLT. YEAH. VOL. UH, YEAH, THAT ONE HAS NEVER HAD ANY REPAIRS ON IT AT ALL EITHER. SO WE'VE BEEN, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY FORTUNATE. I THINK WE BOUGHT CORRECTLY TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO I LEFT OUT MY HIGHLANDERS OR HYBRIDS SINCE THAT IS A BIG THING SINCE THAT'S A BIG THING. I'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT WAS STATED. UM, IF I MAY, UH, THERE ARE, I'LL SAY ONE, IT'S TWO. BUT, UM, ONE THING THAT WAS LEFT ON HERE, 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T COME IN IN TIME FOR THE LAST ONE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF YOU ABOUT IS THE NEED FOR A 40 PASSENGER SCHOOL BUS. I HAVE A QUOTE FROM JOE RODRIGUEZ WHO WAS THE FOREMAN. UM, HE GOT IT BEFORE ME BEFORE HE LEFT, UH, FROM, UM, THE GARAGE AND 180 9. 189, UH, THOUSAND. AND THEY ARE READILY BEING MADE. IT IS A GAS BUS. THEY HAVE MADE THEM A LOT MORE ENTERPRISE. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY. UM, WAIT A MINUTE. IS THIS THE ONE THAT WE GOT THE CDBG GRANT FOR? NO, THIS IS A DIFFERENT ONE. THIS IS A DIFFERENT BUS THAT'S A LOT MORE. UM, BUT , UM, WHEN IS THAT COMING? WHEN IS THAT ONE COMING? THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S GONNA TAKE A GOOD BUILD, A GOOD WHILE TO BUILD. UM, WE ARE FINISHING UP, UM, HOW TO PROPERLY PUT THE PURCHASE ORDER IN. WE NEEDED SOME INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, BUILDER TO ADD TO THAT AND ALL. SO THAT'S GOING IN SOON. BUT THEY'RE BUILDING THAT FROM SCRATCH. SO I AM SAYING A YEAR FOR SURE, I WOULD THINK. BUT THAT ALLOWED THE DECAL. WHICH ONE? NO, THE ONE THAT WE REQUIRED TO PUT KIDS ON THE BUS. NOPE. THAT'S [00:15:01] A SCHOOL BUS. THAT'S A SCHOOL THAT, THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUR BUS. A A, A UM, 40 PASSENGER TOUR BUS WITH A LIFT GATE THAT CAN HOLD TWO, UH, SENIORS ON IT. UM, SO NO KIDS, IT'S GEARED FOR THE SENIOR, BUT IT IS, BUT IT CANNOT HAVE THE MULTIPURPOSE SIGN ON IT BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE AND ITS MAKE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHICH IS WHY I'M BACK TO GOING FOR THE SCHOOL BUS WITH THE STOP BAR, WITH THE STOP BAR. IT'S ORANGE OR YELLOW, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO STOP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO TAKE KIDS TO THEIR HOUSE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. EVERYTHING WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS ABLE TO ONLY GO PARKING LOT TO PARKING LOT. UH, ANOTHER PIECE WITH THAT, I'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO, UM, ON THOSE VEHICLES, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO BE INSPECTED EVERY SIX MONTHS. EVERY SIX MONTHS. AND, UH, THE, THE, IT'S A RIGOROUS THING TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE THINGS WEAR TEAR, THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU WOULD THINK IN SIX MONTHS NOT MUCH SHOULD HAPPEN, BUT IT COULD. THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH IT ON NEXT WEEK, THE 17TH. SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. AND I'VE GOT, UH, BUT FROM THE WHOLE TAKING IT TO THEM THE FIRST TIME, ONE OF OUR BUSES GOT PUT ASIDE BECAUSE IT NEEDED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, SO THAT HAS ENDED THERE. WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT DECALS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PLACED PROPERLY ON THE BUS. THE, IT'S, IT'S, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A 20 PASSENGER, BUT IT'S A 16 BECAUSE THIS ONE HAS A LIFT GATE. IT IS OUR SECOND LIFT GATE BUS, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE SHORTER ONES, WHICH IS STILL HAS THE RIGHT THING FOR GAS. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE 40 PASSENGER SCHOOL BUS? YES, PLEASE. IS THAT THAT FUNCTION ONLY AVAILABLE IN A GAS POWERED YES. BUS? YES. IT'S SO THERE IS NO HYBRID BUS MADE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO MAKE STOPS BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO DROP OFF AND PICK UP CHILDREN. AS I HAVE HEARD IN, IN DEFINITELY IN NEW YORK, IN THIS GENERAL AREA, NO ONE IS USING THEM. UM, FROM WHAT THE GUY TOLD ME, THEY'RE JUST NOT RELIABLE ENOUGH AT THIS TIME. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE, BUT ALSO CAUSE THAT THEY'RE NOT USABLE. SO, TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, THEY ARE USABLE IF THEY'RE HYBRID. BUT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THIS PERSON THAT THEY'RE NOT RELIABLE. NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT THEY, I'M SORRY IF I SAID RELIABLE. THEY'RE NOT READILY AVAILABLE. OH, THEY'RE NOT. AND YOU WOULD BE MAKING THEM AGAIN FROM SCRATCH. THEY'RE NOT BUILDING THEM AND JUST HAVING THEM SIT THERE AND YOU NEED IT RIGHT AWAY. THIS IS DEFINITE. I NEED IT RIGHT AWAY. THINK ABOUT IT. OUR OUR FOUR BUSES, LARGE BUSES, 30, 32, 36 AND A 40 PASSENGER CAN NO LONGER BE USED FOR KIDS. AND WHERE WILL THE 189,000 COME FROM? UH, 180 9. BUT, UM, WHERE WILL IT COME FROM? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND WHY I BRING IT UP HERE AT THE MOMENT. UM, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE CONTROLLER? I, I, WE'VE HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE. UM, BUT THIS IS A, A, A SERIOUS THING. UM, WE DID THREE RUNS TODAY TO, UH, GO TO THE POOL WITH THE SHORT BUS . UM, IT'S JUST HOW WE'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KEEP MAKING THINGS HAPPEN, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THE SENIORS, IT'S A GOOD THING. TWO OF THE BUSES THAT WERE OLD, TWO OF THE LARGE BUSES, UM, THAT WERE OLD AND NOT AS RELIABLE, I'VE PUT 'EM ASIDE AND TOLD THEM, YOU SHOULD PUT THESE OUT FOR AUCTION BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE USED. USE THE MONEY AS WE COME IN WITH THESE NEW BUSES. UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL JUST TO HAVE THE WHOLE INVENTORY THAT YOU USE MM-HMM . RIGHT. UM, 'CAUSE IT GETS VERY CONFUSING WHEN WE DISCUSS IT GOING BACK AND FORTH. I DID HAND IT TO YOU ALL BEFORE, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND. YES. YOU'RE NOT WELL INTERNALIZING LIKE I DO. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, UM, AND THEN THE STATUS CHANGES IN SOME OF THE BUSES, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO THE, THE MOST UPDATED ONE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE, LIKE IF THERE ARE OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YES. MM-HMM . SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND THE ENFORCEMENT HAS CHANGED. OH, THE ENFORCEMENT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST THAT GOT HIT WITH IT, BUT IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER. UM, UM, WHITE PLAINS, UM, YOUTH BUREAU GOT HIT HARD. THEY GOT FOUR BUSES TAKEN FROM THEM. MM-HMM. YEAH. AND NOW REALIZE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE, UM, UH, 19 A CERTIFICATION BECAUSE YOU NEED CERTAIN PEOPLE, NOT JUST ANYBODY CAN DRIVE THEM EITHER. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S GOING AROUND A LOT AND GETTING A LOT OF PEOPLE AT, UH, OFF GUARD, WHICH HAS ME GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS. YOU SET THE TRENDS. YEAH. WHICH HAS ME GETTING [00:20:01] A LOT OF PHONE CALLS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR PEOPLE. YES. . SO I GUESS CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONTROLLER. YES, INDEED. ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ON SATURDAY WE HAVE MOVIE NIGHT AT TRAVIS PARK, AND I ALSO HEARD THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON ON THURSDAY. WHAT COULD THAT BE? GEE. SO YEAH, SO WE'RE VERY, WE'RE VERY, WHAT'S MY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT WE HAD THE AMAZING AND AMAZING, UM, JAZZ SERIES THIS SUMMER. SO I JUST WANNA BE, GIVE A HUGE, HUGE SHOUT OUT TO OUR VENDOR, A SC ARTISTICALLY SERVING COMMUNITIES AND ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND REALLY BRINGING THE MUSIC AND THE, UM, TALENT THAT THEY DID BRING GREAT TALENT. UM, WE DO OWE THEM A LOT BECAUSE THEY, THEY DEFINITELY HAVE GIVEN OF THEMSELVES AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED. SO THIS WEEK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LATIN JAWS ARTISTS. I ALWAYS MAKE SURE, I WANNA MAKE SURE I SAY HIS NAME CORRECTLY. UM, HOLD ON GUYS. HERE WE GO. MY LITTLE GIRL. YOU'LL MAKE SURE YOU'LL SEE MY LITTLE, UM, ANNOUNCER, MISS LYRIC. UM, SO WE HAVE, UM, BAZ AND THE GANG. SO I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN BEFORE US BEFORE MM-HMM . UM, AT, UM, IN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO END THE YEAR WITH SOME UPBEAT, PARTYING, JAZZ TO REALLY SIT BACK AND MAKE REALLY CLOSE OUT OUR SERIES. ALSO, I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE DO HAVE OUR, UH, SMALL BUSINESS, SO ENTREPRENEURS THAT'S COMING OUT. UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY BUSINESSES. SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU COME OUT, LISTEN TO SOME MUSIC, HAVE SOME FOOD, BUY SOMETHING WHILE YOU'RE THERE. AND JUST HAVE A REALLY GOOD EVENING AS WE, AS WE CLOSE OUT THE SUMMER. SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY ON THURSDAY. AND IT'S VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY AND, UH, THERE'S PLENTY FOR THE KIDS TO DO NO MATTER WHAT AGE AND WHILE YOU ENJOY THE MUSIC. YEAH, I, I JUST HAVE SUGGESTED THAT, UM, AND I SPOKE TO THE PRODUCER AND TO TERRENCE THAT, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR WE ORDER, UH, LAWN SIGNS, UH, TO INCREASE THE TURNOUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY GET A LOT MORE PEOPLE ATTENDING AND, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT LAST WEEK'S CONCERT AND THE FIRST ONE ESPECIALLY, WE'RE LIKE, EXCEPTIONAL. YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THEY WERE LIKE ONE OF THE BEST CONCERTS AND BEST BANDS THAT I'VE EVER HEARD. UM, AND THEY WERE ALL GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. I APPRECIATE, I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO WORK, FIGURE OUT LIKE A WAY OF GETTING MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO, UM, UH, TO ATTEND IN THE LAWN SIGNS USING THE DIGITAL BOARDS. UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVING THE CAMPERS, UM, UH, USING SOCIAL MEDIA SKILLS. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE LITTLE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, UM, TO GET, UM, YOU KNOW, A BETTER TURNOUT EVEN. UM, I THOUGHT MAYBE EVEN HAVING HIGH, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL BANDS WHERE, UM, THEY COULD SELECT MUSICIANS TO PERFORM WITH THESE BANDS. UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DO LIKE ONE NUMBER, UH, WHERE THEY COULD PLAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WAY WHERE WE COULD HIGHLIGHT, UH, EXCEPTIONAL, TALENTED, YOUNG. WE COULD HAVE STUDENTS DEBRIEF SESSION ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE YEAH, NO, I'M JUST THE ANOTHER TIME MAYBE. BUT I DO WANNA ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THE ONLY ONE PUTTING OUT THE ANNOUNCEMENTS. THANK YOU, JOE, FOR THE, UM, THE SERIES. IT, IT CALL, IT'S, IT'S A COLLECTIVE EFFORT. I MEAN, I'M, I'M GETTING OUT TO MY SOCIAL NETWORK. SO THE, THE COMMUNITY CENTER HAS BEEN GIVEN OUT TO THEIR SOCIAL NETWORK NETWORKS. UM, SO I ASK ALL OF US WHO HAVE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, PLEASE POST IT. IT'S, YOU CAN GRAB IT RIGHT FROM ME, YOU CAN COME TO ME, YOU CAN TALK TO ME AND COME TO ME AND GET THE, UM, AND GET THE FLYER. UM, WE HAD HOPED THAT WE COULD HAVE NEWS 12, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT SURE, SUPERVISOR. I KNOW YOU WERE HANDLING THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT. BUT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TIME THAT WE REALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT. I KNOW THAT THE VILLAGES ARE ABLE TO GET VISIBILITY AND WE WILL HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE IN FAIRVIEW WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT SAME VISIBILITY. SO ANYONE WHO HAS, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIONS WITH THE MEDIA OUTLETS, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE, YOU KNOW, TELL 'EM ABOUT THESE GREAT CONCERTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING. UM, AND, AND, AND REALLY IT'S IMPORTANT. SO IT IS, IT DOES TO YOUR POINT SUPERVISOR, IT'S A COLLECTIVE ISSUE. I MEAN, I'VE ASKED YOU, YOU KNOW, TO PLEASE, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO DIFFERENT OUTLETS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ALL NEED TO CELEBRATE OUR COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, MUSIC BRINGS EVERYONE TOGETHER. WHETHER YOU'RE HAVING A BAD DAY, A GOOD DAY, OR NOTHING. BUT YOU COULD JUST COME AND RELAX AND REALLY JUST REALLY BE FELT FELLOWSHIP WITH, UM, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THOSE WHO COME TO VISIT US. SO, UM, SO PLEASE, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH ACTUALLY TO YOU AND FRANCIS, UM, FOR REALLY MAKING SURE THAT IT GETS OUT, UM, ON WEEKLY AND AGAIN, HUGE, HUGE SHOOT. HUGE SHOUT OUT. THIS COULD NOT, THIS COULD NOT HAVE HAD OCCURRED IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE PRODUCERS THAT WE HAD, UM, CONDUCTING THESE CONCERTS. SO BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR IN-HOUSE DRUMMER, IN-HOUSE, PRODUCER IN-HOUSE, EVERYTHING [00:25:01] THAT, THAT WOULD BE. CRAIG BUTTER GLENVILLE, WHO HAS BEEN AMAZING TALENT IN THIS, IN THIS, UM, COMMUNITY IN ADDITION TO RUSSELL JOHNSON AND AAL CARTER, ALL FROM GREENBURG, ALL GRADUATED FROM WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL. I'M NOT GONNA TELL A YEAR 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA GET THIS UPSET OR TERENCE. UM, AND THEN YOU FROM THE HOLLI, I WANT, NO, I GREEN SCHOOL DISTRICT ALL FROM DANCER. BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK AND GIVING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY AS, AS YOU SEE THOSE AROUND THE TABLE WHO HAS COME BACK TO GIVE BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY THAT POURED INTO ALL OF US. SO A BIG SHOUT OUT TO ARTISTICALLY SERVING COMMUNITIES, ALSO KNOWN AS A SC. UM, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GREAT WORK, THE ARTISTS THAT YOU BROUGHT TO US. AND WE ARE TRULY, TRULY APPRECIATIVE OF IT AND THANKFUL. AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONER. OH, AND T-D-Y-C-C. THANK YOU. AND WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IF YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THAT BEFOREHAND, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. I CAN THANK HIM TOO, BECAUSE I ATTENDED AND I AND THE STAFF, ALL THE STAFF THAT WAS THERE AND IT WAS HOT FOR SEVERAL OF THOSE NIGHTS. ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE VENDORS. THE VENDORS REALLY MAKE A LOT WORK. 'CAUSE THERE'S FOOD, THERE'S DRINKS, THERE'S THINGS GOING ON THERE. AND UM, IT REALLY BRINGS THE LIVELINESS. IT DOES. AND THE TOWN SPIRIT. IT DOES. THAT'S BUT TO DO IT ALL AND HAVE CAMP GOING ON, YOUR STAFF WAS EXCELLENT. THEY WEREN'T THANK YOU. THEY DIDN'T SEEM TIRED. THEY SEEMED FULL OF ENERGY AND, AND THEY REALLY HELPED MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND I, WE'VE BEEN SLEEPING WELL AND I, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, WE, WE MAKE SURE WE THANK THE STAFF, LET'S NOT THANK THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO COME OUT EVERY THURSDAY. THAT'S RIGHT. TRUE. AND COME OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HAVING A GREAT TIME IN PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO, BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT PARKS WHO COME OUT TO HELP US GET THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING READY. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY. THIS IS WHEN THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALL COME TOGETHER, WORK TOGETHER TO BRING FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US. THANK YOU TO THE COMPTROLLER WHO'S MADE PAYING THE BILLS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET EVERYTHING, UM, TO OUR, TO OUR, TO OUR VENDORS. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HAS A HAND IN THIS, SO I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE, SO THANK YOU. SO, ALRIGHT, IF Y'ALL WANNA STAY HERE FOR THE REST OF THE MEDIA, WHAT HAPPENS? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, . OKAY. IT'S ABOUT THE VEHICLES. SO WHAT'S THE, IS THERE ANOTHER STEP OR DO, DOES, DOES THIS NOW GO TO DPW TO ORDER OUR VEHICLES? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. , YOU KNOW, BUT FROM MY, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, DE BOARD SHOULD SEND A NOTE TO DPW TO PROCEED WITH ALL THE VEHICLES THEY AGREE WITH. 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO SIT. 'CAUSE WE REALLY, REALLY DO NEED THAT. EVERY, EVERYBODY, BECAUSE WE'RE MODIFYING THE FORM BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE, OKAY. IT'S NOT THE COMMISSIONER OF DPW WHO APPROVES NEW VEHICLES. WE'RE CHANGING NOW THE TOWN BOARD. SURE. WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARGUED A WHILE AGO. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND VERY LAST QUESTION WHILE YOU KEEP TREATING ME, LIKE I DIDN'T GO TO HIREVUE AT THE CENTER. WAIT, HOLD ON. AND YOU WENT TO JUNIPER HILL? NO, HIVE. ACTUALLY IT WAS HIGH VIEW WHERE? JUNIPER HILL BACK. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S TRUE. I, I STARTED, I STARTED ALREADY SACRED HEART SCHOOL AND THEN OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD. SO, AND I WENT TO GLEN COVE HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU EVERYBODY, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. SEE EVERYBODY ON THURSDAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE YOU WENT TO SCHOOL MUCH LATER AFTER. OH, I WASN'T GOING. DON'T DO THAT. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. GO WAIT. REALLY GREAT. OH, WELL COME WATCH TINA'S, YOU'RE DEREK. THAT'S, WAIT A MINUTE. ALRIGHT, LET'S GET TO, TO THE AGENDA. THAT'S FUNNY. THAT WAS HOLLY BOLEY. HOW ARE YOU? , I THINK, UM, JOY SENT YOU SOMETHING, AN UPDATE FOR PW PW FIVE. WE'RE ALL SPARED AWAY NOW. ARE WE TAKING IT OFF THE AGENDA OR WE'RE JUST MOVING WHAT WE DO? THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE, I JUST THINK IT'S CLEANER KNOWING HOW WE'VE HAD FATALITIES IN THE LAST TIME WHERE THEY NEVER MADE IT BACK ON THE AGENDA. RIGHT. IT WILL MAKE IT BACK ON. IT. IT, YEAH. BUT YOU MAY NOTICE IT ON AGENDA REVIEW THE DAY BEFORE AND THAT'S TOO LATE. ALRIGHT, SO IF WE KEEP IT ON, HOW ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE, WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT A NOTE SAYING THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE HELD OVER TO BUT WE CAN'T HOLD IT OVER. SURE, WE CAN. BECAUSE WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. RIGHT. AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T REALLY DO IT THAT WAY. WE ARE JUST GONNA PUT IT ON AND IT'S RESCHEDULED FOR THAT'S FINE. RIGHTS IS CLEAN BECAUSE ON AGENDA REVIEW, THERE'S NO ONCE, ONE AGENDA QUICK. WHEN YOU PULL IT OFF, IT'S GONE. OKAY. IF YOU THEN SAY, INSTEAD IT'S SHIFTING TO THAT MEETING. IT'S ALL, IT'S THE FIRST ONE THERE. RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. NO, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROCLAMATION TO LYNN GOODMAN. WHAT ELSE ARE WE ADDED? WHO, WHO DID THE WORDING OF IT? DID YOU ADD ANYTHING ABOUT GASHA? IT HAS SOMETHING ABOUT GASHA. OH, CAN I SEE IT? BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S GONNA SEE IT. I WANNA MAKE SURE, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ABLE THAT SHE, 'CAUSE SHE DID A LOT. SHE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE GONNA HONOR WE WHOLE THING ON TV ONE NOT YET. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? [00:30:01] THE WHAT? WE DON'T HAVE THE INSURANCE, UH, CERTIFICATE FOR TB ONE, WHICH IS THE FARMER'S MARKET. IT STARTS SATURDAY. IT STARTS SATURDAY. WE DON'T HAVE THE WHAT? THE INSURANCE? WE DON'T HAVE THE INSURANCE. IT'S A REQUIRING WELL, I'LL, I'LL CHECK ON THAT. IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, YOU CAN'T VOTE ON IT. RIGHT? LET ME SEE IF THAT CAME IN TODAY. I HOPE SO. THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP OVER THE WEEKEND. DO WE HAVE ANY LANGUAGE FOR, UM, ALAN SPENCER? I CANNOT FIND ANYTHING ONLINE. YOU SHOULD CALL. WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO, TO JUNE BERRY TOO. WE NEED FOR BOTH. WELL, JUNE IS EASY. WELL, IT'S NOT HERE. JUNE IS EASY. UM, I REACHED OUT, I DID REACH OUT FOR, UM, I'LL REACH OUT AGAIN. TO WHO? TO ANDREA, WE FOR ALAN SPENCER. OKAY. ALAN SPENCER. YEAH. I DON'T, UM, IF YOU WANT TO NO, YOU GOT IT. I'LL LET YOU HANDLE IT. OKAY. BUT FOR JUNE CASTLEBERRY, THAT'S, YOU HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION. WE, WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED HER, YOU KNOW, SAD LOSS THOUGH. OH, HOLLY, I THINK THAT, UM, BRIAN LEVITON'S LAST NAME IS NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY HERE. OKAY. I THINK IT'S L-E-V-A-T-A-N. MM-HMM . HOLD ON. ARE WE TABLING, UM, REPORTS UNTIL SEPTEMBER? ARE WE WE DON'T HAVE TO. NO. JUST ASKED. UM, WE CAN DO OUR REPORTS. I AM SORRY. HOW MANY, UM, WE DO HAVES 2, 3, 4. WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC HEARING . THAT'S WHY I SAID, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S WHY I PUT IT OUT THERE. I IT'S UP TO YOU. WELL, THE LAST ONE'S HELD OVER. BETHEL IS HELD OVER WELL, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. IT'S GONNA BE A LONG NIGHT. ALRIGHT. THE SEWA DISTRICTS. HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY WILL SHOW UP SO THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF THOSE TOO. MM-HMM . BATTERY ENERGY STORE. SO I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY PASSED THE SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, MODERATOR? NO. THAT WAS HELD OVER. NO. OKAY. AND YOU, YOU APPROVED THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. OKAY. AND, AND PAUL, YOU HELD OVER THE RULES LAST TIME. IS THAT IT? YES. OKAY. SO IT'S BACK. WE CAN FINALLY NOW PASS THE RULES. I THINK SO. OKAY. SO I WAS JUST, SO I SEE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST MADE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT THE JAZZ CONCERT AND THE, UM, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE JUST MENTIONED. THERE'S SOMETHING, UH, TRAVIS MOVIE, NIGHT PARK, MOVIE NIGHT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO IS THERE A WAY THAT UNDER YOUR ANNOUNCEMENTS, LISA, THAT YOU COULD PUT TOWN CLERK COMMENTS AND PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS? SO WE COULD JUST PUT A LINE JAZZ FEST SINCE IT'S GONNA BE THURSDAY THAT DAY, AND THEN THE MOVIE NIGHT, UM, AT TRAVIS PARK THAT DATE. SO WE COULD JUST HAVE THAT. SO IT'S ON THERE. OH YEAH, WE WERE, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO START THAT, BUT I'VE BEEN OUT, SO NO, I JUST, I JUST, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T, WASN'T, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW. SO I JUST WANTED, IF WE COULD JUST PUT WHAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT IS, WE COULD JUST PULL, WE COULD PUT A BULLET POINT. RIGHT. SO IT WAS THREE, SORRY, THE FED TECHNICAL. SO IT WAS ON SATURDAY AND SATURDAY AFTER, UM, UH, IT'S RIGHT BEFORE. NO, IT'S THE SAME TIME AS THE, UM, MOVIE THAT IS FEG THAT THE PARKS, THE F*G AND, BUT FEGS HAVING THE PEOPLE, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT? RIGHT. THERE'S THREE GROUPS. FAIRVIEW EMPOWERMENT GROUP FOR ANYONE WATCHING. THANK YOU. OH, YEAH. BUT IT'S ALSO, WELL, FAKE FAIRMAN, BUT PARKS AND RECS. UM, AND THERE'S A THIRD. WHO'S THE THIRD THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT? KIWANIS IS ITIS. WHO'S INVOLVED IN WHAT MOVIE NIGHT? OH, I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR. THERE'S THREE, THREE GROUPS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT. OH, OKAY. SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY, UM, FIGURE OUT, UM, THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH THE FARMER'S MARKET, RIGHT? NO, WE JUST SAID, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT CERTIFICATES OF INSURANCE HAVEN'T BEEN SENT. I JUST FOLLOWED UP WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AS WE'RE SITTING HERE. SO DO YOU THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE IT BY THE 15TH? IF INSURANCE, IF THEY GET THE INSURANCE IN PLACE, OTHERWISE THEY NEED TO SEND IT OVER. IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE THING TO DO. THIS HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR MONTHS. YOU HAD IT CORRECT. UH, BRIAN'S NAME, YOU HAD IT CORRECT. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU. COULD WE EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, TB FOUR, THE SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MODERATIONS. UM, COULD [00:35:01] YOU, COULD WE EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE? AND UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I HAD ALSO ASKED, UM, IF, UM, ALL THE ISSUES RELATING TO FORENSIC, UM, THE, THE FORENSIC REPORT COULD BE TAKEN OFF THE HOMEPAGE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT AND KEEP EMPLOYEES. WELL, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA REVIEW. THAT'S YOUR FIRST QUESTION. YOUR FIRST QUESTION. WELL, DON'T INTERRUPT ME, PLEASE. UM, SO ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGULATING THE TOWN'S SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. UM, AND, UM, THAT, AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT TOWN WEBSITE, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, DAMAGING INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, THE FORENSIC REPORT THAT IS IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO FIND, UM, CAPABLE AND QUALIFIED EMPLOYEES. BECAUSE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, IT'S HURTING OUR ABILITY TO GET THEM TO WANNA WORK FOR THE TOWN. SO I'M ASKING AT THE SAME TIME WE APPROVE TB FOUR. UM, IF WE COULD HA ALL AGREE TO REMOVE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, OF THESE, UH, NEGATIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, POSTINGS OR, UM, OR OPINIONS FROM, FROM THE CURRENT WEBSITE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WORK WITH, UM, JOE AND LOOK AT EVERY, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WAS POSTED, WHETHER IT WAS BY ME OR BY MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD. AND THEN WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD AFTER THIS TB FOUR IS APPROVED, UM, EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE REMOVED. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A CLEANER, YOU KNOW, WEBSITE THAT WILL NOT BE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE TOWN. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD ALL AGREE, YOU KNOW, ON THAT. UM, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, WE COULD HAVE A MODERATOR GOING FORWARD TO REGULATE THE TOWN'S SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. AND THEN WE COULD COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, CLEAR, UM, UH, PROCEDURES THAT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPLY WITH. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE DISCUSSION, BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS DAY BEFORE. WELL, IT, THAT'S KIND OF A SEGUE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS. BUT THAT, THAT THEN WE SHOULD VOTE ON TV BEFORE THEN. WAIT, YOU ASKED ME NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU. I DIDN'T. PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME. AND ALL. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PERSON WHO WILL ACT AS MODERATOR MM-HMM . THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I, AND I RESPECTFULLY SAID, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I, I BELIEVE THAT'S FINE. MM-HMM . BUT THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THAT. SO LET IS, LET'S STICK TO THIS FOR NOW AND THEN WE CAN APPROACH THE OTHER, ANOTHER TIME. WELL, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT MONTHS, BUT RIGHT NOW, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MODERATOR TO REGULATE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR MONTHS. WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT FOR MONTHS AS WELL. WELL, I'M, I'M, YOU ARE TRYING TO TIE SOMETHING, A MOTOR TO A HORSE AND WAGON. YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO ADD SOMETHING THAT IS TANGENTIALLY RELATED. AND AS I SAID, I'M GIVING YOU THE ABSOLUTE RESPECT OF YES, LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. BUT RIGHT NOW, LET US STICK TO THE AGENDA AND THE SPECIFICS OF A MODERATOR, WHICH HAS BEEN ON HERE FOR MONTHS ALSO. SO LET'S JUST KEEP WITH THE PROGRAM, PLEASE. OKAY. WELL, WELL, I'M SAYING IS I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M MAKING MY REQUEST AGAIN, BECAUSE BASICALLY RIGHT NOW, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR TB FOUR IS BECAUSE OUR WEBSITE HAS BEEN MISUSED AND, UH, UH, FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. UM, AND BASICALLY ALL I'M ASKING, UM, IS TO DIVERT FROM HIRING A MODERATOR. NO, I'M SAYING I THINK I COULD ANSWER IN A WAY THAT COULD HOPEFULLY JUST POTENTIALLY END THIS CONVERSATION. SO FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S TIME TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT MODERATOR IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT OVER AND CHOOSE. SOMEONE DECIDES ME. NOT AT ALL. OKAY. WELL, SO, SO THE MODERATOR SIMPLY NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE SOCIAL MEDIA RULES AND POLICIES THAT YOU'VE ALREADY PUT INTO PLACE. IF ANYBODY BELIEVES A POSTING IS IN VIOLATION OF THAT SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY MM-HMM . YOU COULD LET ME KNOW MM-HMM . AND POINT OUT WHY IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE POLICY. AND THEN I WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THAT. OKAY. BUT LET ME, THAT'S NO, AND I PREFER IT WOULD BE SOMEONE ELSE THAT I RESPECTFULLY WILL TAKE THE JOB AS WELL. YOU HELD IT OVER. RIGHT? WE DO NEED A SOCIAL MEDIA MODERATOR. SO LET'S JUST ADDRESS THAT AND WE CAN HAVE YES, AGREED. AS, AS ELLEN SAID, THE OTHER CONVERSATION IS SEPARATE. BUT LET'S JUST GET THROUGH THIS PART AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE OTHER PART. NOW, I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA MODERATOR. UM, I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THAT POSITION, WHAT THAT PERSON WOULD DO. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A LAWYER, BY THE WAY. I KNOW THAT YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA MODERATORS THAT JUST FOLLOW [00:40:01] THE, THE RULES OF, AS YOU POINTED OUT, WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMPLIES WITH SOCIAL MEDIA RULES. UM, AND THAT TO ME IS A BIGGER CONVERSATION ALSO IN TERMS OF HAVING PERHAPS A COMMUNICATIONS STAFF PERSON, UH, JOIN US TO DO SOME OF THOSE FUNCTIONS AND MAYBE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU SOMETIME. WELL, LET ME SAY SOMETHING THAT'S THE FUTURE POSITION LEMME TALK ABOUT. WE HAVE NO, I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE FUTURE POSITION BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ONE REALLY MONITORING THAT AND REALLY LOOK AT THAT. AND, AND YES, EVERY PLACE I'VE WORKED HAS A DESIGNATED PERSON. IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON THAT'S DOING THAT. MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE CAN CONTROL WHAT THE NARRATIVE IS. MM-HMM . AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE NARRATIVE IS, UM MM-HMM . GOOD. YES. RIGHT. AND NOT ALWAYS GOOD. I DO, I DO. UM, I DO DISAGREE WITH YOU WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, PULLING STUFF DOWN TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS IS AN AMAZING PLACE TO WORK. AND IT IS. RIGHT. IT, IT, EVERY, EVERY ORGANIZATION HAS ITS CHALLENGES. BUT AS A RECRUITER, AND WHEN ANYONE IS TAKING A LOOK AND LOOKING FOR A POSITION, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WORKING INTO. YOU WANNA UNDERSTAND THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU ARE APPLYING FOR. SO TO HIDE THAT INFORMATION, TO BE AND MISLEAD PEOPLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE ARE BEING TRANSPARENT. WE CAN'T SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TRANSPARENT AND HIDE WHAT'S GOING ON. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE UPFRONT, THIS IS THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD. WE'VE HAD A FORENSIC AUDIT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WHATEVER WAS GOING ON, BUT THIS IS WHAT GREEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS. AND AS WE CONTINUE, AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, BUT IT, IT REALLY IS UNFAIR AND MISLEADING IF YOU JUST PUT ALL THESE FLOWERY THINGS UP AND THEN PEOPLE GET THE IMPRESSION LIKE, OH THIS IS, THIS IS AN AMAZING PLACE TO WORK TO ONLY WALK IN AND TO CHAOS AND AND CHAOS. AND THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM. AND THAT'S NOT FAIR. AND WE'RE NOT DOING A, A A A JUST FOR US COMING OUT AND PORTRAYING WHO WE ARE. SO WE CAN'T SAY BE TRANSPARENT IN ONE RESPECT AND NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT. SO I FIGURED, YOU KNOW, WHEN I DO MY RESEARCH AND WE'RE PLACING PEOPLE, WE WANT, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE YOU'RE INTERVIEWING AND WHERE YOU'RE ACCEPTING YOUR POSITION AT. ALRIGHT. UH, ANYONE WHO'S LOOKING FOR POSITION AND SEARCHING IS NOT GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING THINGS THAT YOU POSTED ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FACEBOOK PAGE. BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOLE ACCESS TO THAT PAGE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO HAS TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE WITH THE TOWN HALL AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. AND YOU POST ON THAT SITE AT THE SAME TIME. YOU WANT EVERYTHING TAKEN DOWN FROM THE ACTUAL TOWN WEBSITE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND SECONDLY, YOU PUT OUT RIGHT, DURING EARLY VOTING THAT EVERYTHING IN THE FORENSIC AUDIT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, WHICH IS DEFINITELY NOT TRUE. IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE AMOUNT OF UNCOLLECTED TAXES HAS GONE FROM $29 MILLION AS STATED IN THE REPORT TO $34 MILLION IN UNCOLLECTED TAXES. AND NOW YOU WANNA TAKE DOWN THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT. WE NEED TO SAY WE HAVE A FISCAL PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD GAIN MORE RESPECT. I THINK WHAT MIGHT GET PEOPLE NOT WANT TO WORK FOR US IS WHEN YOU POST THINGS ABOUT OUR STAFF AND WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO AND WHAT CONFLICTS THERE ARE, AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA, I THOUGHT WE WERE NOT GONNA DO PERSONAL ATTACKS. WE'RE NOT DOING PERSONAL ATTACKS. SO YOU AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, EXCUSE ME, YOU'RE A SORE LOSER. YOU LOST THE PRIMARY, YOU LOST. I DIDN'T STOP IT ALREADY. YOU PLEASE, PLEASE STOP MAKING PERSONAL. EVERY YOU HAVE A, YOU, YOU HAVE A THING EVERY, DID PAUL, EVERY MEETING YOU HAVE TO START. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. CAN WE MOVE ON? PLEASE? YOU WE MOVE ON. PLEASE. EXCUSE ME. NO, HE INTERRUPTED ME. YOU KNOW, ALL YOU DO IS MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS. IT'S NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK. YOU DO THAT. IT IS A FACT MEETING. YOU KNOW, ALL YOU'RE SOLE LOSER. OKAY. ASKING PAUL, SHE'S ASKING YOU, PAUL, TRY CONTROL YOURSELF. YOU'RE A SORE LOSER. TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF. SO LOSER. TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF. TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF. RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE. HE'S ALE LOSER. HE CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SOLE'S REASON. HE LOST THE PRIMARY, DIDN'T HE PAUL? I WASN'T IN THE PRIMARY. PRIMARY WERE I WAS IN PRIMARY A YEAR AGO. EVERY WEEK. EVERY WEEK YOU, EVERY DAY YOU POST INFORMATION. THIS IS NOT BACK ON TOP. I STILL, I STILL WANNA FINISH MY STATEMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO INTERRUPT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE RULES AND WHY I AM LIKELY NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THESE RULES IS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GONNA FOLLOW THEM. AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA SAY, HEY, THE TOWN COUNCIL'S NOT FOLLOWING THEIR OWN RULES. WELL, YOU ARE GONNA VIOLATE THEM. BUT THE POINT I'M MAKING BE TWO PEOPLE. NOT THE POINT, THE POINT, THE POINT, THE POINT. PLEASE TRY NOT TO INTERPRET. TREAT PLEASE TRY TO CONTROL MYSELF. AND IN CASE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, I WAS NOT RUNNING THIS YEAR. I RAN A YEAR [00:45:01] AGO. RIGHT. BUT YOU WANT, I WANT, AND I WANT, I DID NOT ORGANIZE IT SITE EVERY SINGLE DAY, PAUL, TO PUT DAMAGING INFORMATION ABOUT YOU. PLEASE PAUL, THE ONLY TIME I USED A DAY, PAUL TRIED TO, I'M GONNA CALL FOR A RECESS. IF WE DON'T TRY TO CONTROL RECESS, I'M GONNA HAVE A RECESS. PLEASE CALL FOR RECESS. CAN WE PLEASE? NO, BUT HE KEEPS SAYING THAT, HE KEEPS SAYING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE ONLY REASON I RESPONDED IS WHEN YOU PUT OUT SOMETHING DURING THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD ON OUR TOWN WEBSITE. A POLITICAL, A POLITICAL. AND I RESPONDED TO IT. FOCUS ON THE MODERATOR PLEASE. SO CAN WE FOCUS ON THE AGENDA? I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, THE COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST IS A JOB TITLE WITH THE COUNTY. WE JUST CALL FOR RECESS. THERE WAS NO MOTION. AND SECOND, WELL, NO, LET'S COME ON. LET'S, WE NEED TO MOVE ON. MOVE FORWARD. LET'S MOVE ON. YES. SAY THAT. SORRY, JOE. YES, THERE'S A COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST AND THERE THERE IS, I BELIEVE THERE'S A LIST. UNLESS I HAVEN'T CHECKED WITH CIVIL SERVICE THEMSELVES. MAYBE THE LIST CAN BE BROKEN. I DON'T KNOW. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT HAS ALL OF THE UM, CRITERIA. CRITERIA FOR WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR. BUT WE CAN LOOK AT IT. THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO APPLY TO AMEND THAT LISTING BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE TOWN OF GREENBERG AS WELL. OH, OKAY. DO WE HAVE A POSITION BUDGET FOR THAT? NO, NOT THAT I RECALL BEING IN THE BUDGET. ALRIGHT. AND I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT ARE NOT POLITICAL WHO COULD DO THEIR JOB. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CABLE TV OFFICE. I THINK, I THINK WE NEED, THAT'S WHY WE PICKED JOE. I'M, I'M NOT POLITICAL, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY FOR THAT JOB. SOMEBODY WHO'S, OKAY, SO WHAT ELSE? SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA? YEAH. UH, TV SIX. UH, I DON'T, I THINK THAT, UH, THERE SHOULD BE NO CENSORSHIP AND ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WHO WANTS TO SAY PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, WE SHOULDN'T NEED, WE SHOULD NOT NEED THREE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS TO PUT SOMETHING ON, ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA. THIS IS, THERE'S NO OTHER LEGISLATIVE BODY ANYWHERE THAT I KNOW OF THAT HAS THIS RULE. AND I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST THE, UM, THE RULES AND AND PROCEDURES AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOBODY'S GONNA CENSOR ME. I WAS ELECTED BY THE VOTERS AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD COULD, AS FAR AS I COULD THINK, COULD PUT ANYTHING ELSE ON, ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSS, COULD BE ASKED TO PUT ANYTHING FOR DISCUSSION. IF BOARD ME THREE BOARD MEMBERS DON'T WANNA DISCUSS IT, UM, AT LEAST IT COULD BE HIGHLIGHTED THAT, UH, A REQUEST WAS MADE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LEAF BLOWER LAWS FOR, FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S, THE THING IS, DO YOU WANNA PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA? WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRAFT. ACTUALLY I'VE DRAFTED, UH, I'VE DRAFTED A LEAF BLOWER PROPOSAL, REVISED WHATEVER. I WOULD LIKE TO GET, UM, ANOTHER OPINION FROM SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, MORE, UH, KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF IT THEN, THEN I'VE GOTTEN YET. SO ONCE THAT'S DONE, I WILL SUBMIT IT TO EVERYONE FOR REVIEW. RIGHT. BUT PAUL HAS RECENTLY STATED THAT HE SUPPORTS THE SCARSDALE LEAFBLOWER LAW. AND SO PAUL, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO HAVE YOUR SECRETARY TAKE OFF THE WORD SCARSDALE, PUT ON GREENBERG AND PUT THAT FORWARD AS A PROPOSAL FROM YOU. NO, I WANNA HAVE A, I WANNA HAVE A DISCUSSION. DON'T KEEP WRITING TO PEOPLE SAYING YOU SUPPORT WHATEVER THEY WRITE. THAT'S WHATEVER THE BASIC, WHATEVER WE COULD GET. PAUL, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF. WHAT THEY KEEP SAYING, WHAT YOU KEEP WRITING IS, IS THAT YOU SUPPORT WHATEVER THEY ASK. WHETHER IT BE BAN GAS, GAS BLOWERS, BUT ALLOW ELECTRIC, DON'T ALLOW ELECTRIC. WHATEVER IT IS YOU SAY YOU SUPPORT IT, BUT YOU CAN'T GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SUPPORT PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. ALL I ALL, I KEPT SAYING AND WRITING BACK NOW BECAUSE YOU KEEP UNDERMINING THE TOWN COUNCIL, I JUST SIMPLY SAY, PAUL, GIVE US A PROPOSAL. NOW JOY HAS A PROPOSAL, RIGHT? BUT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT YOU SUPPORT IT, WHAT YOU SUPPORT. AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU INDIVIDUALLY SUPPORT AS A LAW. 'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE PROPOSE 50% OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIKE IT AND 50 THE PE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE ARE NOT. AND IT'S JUST MOVING AROUND DEX CHAIRS. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT, UH, JOY PROPOSES. I FORWARD TO WORKING. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. IF WE, AS LONG AS WE GET SOMETHING APPROVED, I'D BE HAPPY. I I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I, IF I MAY, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU JOY. I AM REALLY PLEASED THAT YOU DID THAT AND YOU JUST SHE'S GONNA HATE IT. YEAH, WELL I'M JUST PLEASED THAT YOU KIND OF CAME UP WITH A PROPOSAL, BUT I WAS JUST A LITTLE LEVITY. YES. BUT, BUT REALLY SUPERVISOR, WE'VE ASKED YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES AND YOU KEEP REARRANGING THE, WHAT IT IS. WE, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING CONCRETE THAT YOU PROPOSE, BUT YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN, PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION [00:50:01] AND OF COURSE NOTHING GETS RESOLVED WITH JUST DISCUSSION. SO IT WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL IF YOU WOULD IN, AND WE'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, PUT TOGETHER PROPOSAL FOR WHAT YOU ENVISION AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. AND THEN LET'S CONSIDER IT AND LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN EITHER AGREE TO SOME THINGS AND DISAGREE WITH OTHER THINGS, BUT AT LEAST THAT'S GIVES US SOMETHING TO START WITH. EVERYTHING THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS DO, THEY COME HERE. GARRETT DECAYING WILL COME HERE AND HE WILL GIVE US BACKGROUND AND A PROPOSAL AND THEN WE EDIT AND MAKE CHANGES. AND I DON'T, I SEE THAT YOU'RE BUSY LOOKING AT YOUR EMAILS AND YOU'RE NOT LISTENING. I WISH YOU WOULD LISTEN BECAUSE I THINK IT'S WORTH HEARING THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU AND YOU CONSTANTLY PORTRAY US AS WORKING AGAINST YOU BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY THERE, THERE WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME THERE. NOW WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING ONCE, ONCE THE COUNCILWOMAN HABER DOES WHATEVER VETTING SHE NEEDS AND WANTS TO DO ON THE PROPOSAL THAT SHE HAS WRITTEN. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. WOULD YOU PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA, AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME SUBSTANCE TO IT BEFORE WE HAVE A QUOTE UNQUOTE DISCUSSION THAT GOES OFF INTO THIN AIR AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET THINGS DONE IN A MORE EFFICIENT MANNER. WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US ALL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND MOVE FORWARD IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY. AND THAT WOULD BE A BIG STEP TO MAKING IT PRODUCTIVE. WELL, I BASICALLY FEEL THAT ON SOME CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES LIKE THE LEAF BLOWER LAW, THE, THERE'S A VALUE BEFORE YOU COME UP WITH A PROPO, A SPECIFIC PROPOSAL TO GET A SENSE FROM THE BOARD AS TO WHAT, UH, THEY WOULD NOT WANNA SUPPORT WHAT THEY COULD SUPPORT. AND THEN WE TOGETHER COULD COME UP WITH, UM, A PROPOSAL THAT A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD WOULD, WOULD GO ALONG WITH UN UNDERSTOOD. WE ALREADY KNOW. JUMPING OFF POINT. NO, BUT YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE DOING A, YOU'RE DOING A, A GOOD PUBLIC SERVICE BY, UH, YOU SAID YOU CAME UP WITH A, YOU'RE COMING UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT. SO THAT, SO WE'LL START WITH THAT. SO CAN YOU GIVE US PROPOSAL? DON'T, WHY DON'T WE GIVE YOUR PROPOSAL PROPOSAL SO WE CAN COMPARE. NO ONE'S ARGUING WITH THAT. SO WE CAN COMPARE. LEMME SAY SOMETHING ARGUING WITH YOU RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL. LET'S LOOK AT YOURS. I YOUR PROPOSAL. SO WE CAN JUST DO A, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA WORK, I WANNA WORK WITH JOY ON COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SHE FEELS GOOD ABOUT. UNDERSTAND. AND THEN WE, MAYBE WE COULD GET THREE VOTES ON THAT AND THEN PASS SOMETHING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WE FORWARD A PROPOSAL, I'M SORRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT EXAMPLE, YOU SAY YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF BACKDOOR PICKUP. I WANNA HEAR WHAT JOY HAS AND THEN, AND THEN I'M GONNA LOOK AT JOY AS A STARTING POINT. AND THEN, UH, IF THERE, AND THEN WE COULD TWEAK JOY'S PROPOSAL BECAUSE OF COMING UP WITH A PROPOSAL. I THINK WE'VE EXHAUSTED THIS TOPIC. FRANCIS, ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS, SO WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? I'M SORRY, I'M HOLDING OVER CO THREE AND I, JOE, UM, BECAUSE I, I MENTIONED IT TO, UH, JOE AND HE SAID THAT I SHOULD, UH, LEAVE, UM, UH, NOT DISCUSS IT AT A PUBLIC MEETING. SO I I I SENT EVERYBODY MY , I, I STATED IT'S AN, IT'S AN ITEM FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, RIGHT? THAT DISCUSSION. UH, OKAY, THE HARASSMENT. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? AND LEMME JUST SAY YOU FURTHER HARASSING THE, NO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. I'M JUST, YOU ASKED ME NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, SO I'M NOT GONNA BE SPEAKING ABOUT IT. I'M TRYING TO, OTHERWISE I COULD HIGHLIGHT EVERYTHING PUBLICLY IF YOU WANTED. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT I WAS DOING THIS OUT OF, UH, AFTER I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, WITH JOE. OKAY, SO IT'S UP TO YOU. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE BESIDES CO THREE? UM, I JUST WANNA LOOK AT CO2. UM, LET'S SEE. SO IT'S REALLY JUST CO THREE IS THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS HOLDING OVER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I'M JUST GONNA MENTION ABOUT PW FIVE, WHICH IS ON HERE, BUT WE ARE NOT GONNA BE VOTING ON IT TOMORROW BECAUSE THE RESOLUTION HAS CHANGED. IT'S NOT COMPLETE YET. UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE SOME VERY GOOD PROGRESS WITH CUTTING COSTS THERE. AND THEN THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ALL THAT ACTUAL INFORMATION, UH, AND TIME, ENOUGH TIME BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING TO MAKE THEMSELVES FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND I WOULD, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PO TWO. UM, DONE SOME MORE RESEARCH AND I WILL, WHEN I HAVE IT PULLED TOGETHER, I, I CAN SHARE IT, BUT IT'S NOT ALL TOGETHER. [00:55:01] UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THAT OVER AS WELL. WHAT ABOUT PO TWO, THREE, AND FOUR THEN RIGHT? PO TWO, THREE AND FOUR, SORRY. UM, JOE, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED SINCE YOU ARE NAMED THE MODERATOR, THAT YOU'RE NOT ONLY JUST FOCUSING ON, UM, UH, THE WEBSITE, UM, YOU SHOULD ALSO BE FOCUSING ON FACEBOOK. YOU SHOULD ALSO BE FOCUSING ON, UM, META SOCIAL MEDIA IS DEFINED IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY TO INCLUDE ALSO INCLUDING TIKTOK AND INSTAGRAM SOCIAL. THAT ALL HAS TOWN OF GREENBURG? YES. NO, HE HAS, HE'S ALREADY, HE'S ALREADY DONE THAT RESEARCH. YES. SO HE'S A FULLY, HE'S FULLY AWARE OF IT, MAKING SURE, BECAUSE THAT'S NORMALLY UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE TOWN CLERKS. OH, OKAY. WELL YOU WANT THE JOB SOCIAL WORKER SAY TAKE IT. NO, NO, NO. THE JOB. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT I'M SHOWING BECAUSE THERE ARE ALL TOWN OF GREENBURG ABSOLUTELY. ACCOUNTS. WE'RE FULLY AWARE. WE'RE FULLY AWARE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO ALL THAT, SO WE'RE GONNA CHANGE OVER, RIGHT. YOU OH, TWO, THREE AND FOUR WE'RE ALREADY OVER. WELL, I'VE, I THINK IT WAS A UNANIMOUS THOUGH. I DON'T THINK IT WAS ONE BOARD MEMBER HOLDING IT OVER. WHAT'S THAT? IT WAS UNANIMOUS AS LIKE YOU DO AN AGENDA REVIEW. SO IT WASN'T ONE BOARD MEMBER HOLDING IT OVER. BUT DO WE KNOW ANY MORE ABOUT HOW THEY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TAKE DATA AND AND STUFF LIKE THAT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I'VE GOTTEN, YES, I KNOW MORE AND ENOUGH TO BE CONCERNED, BUT I WANT, I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, THE INFORMATION I'VE GOTTEN MORE CAREFULLY SHARE AND I HAVE ONE PERSON THAT I AM SO CAN YOU SHARE, WE LOOKING, WE'RE ALL LOOKING IT TOGETHER. SO WE, WE ALL, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE THAT CONCERN FROM THE LAST MEETING, BUT THAT WAS A MONTH AGO. WELL, OKAY, SO, UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN SHARE NOW. OKAY. SHARE. OH, I INTEND, I INTEND TO IF YOU WANT TO, IF THAT'S NO, I, I, I INTEND TO, BUT AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, IF I CAN SPEAK COGENTLY ABOUT IT, I'D RATHER SPEAK COGENTLY ABOUT IT ONCE I'VE GOTTEN ALL THE INFORMATION. THAT MAKES SENSE. APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE A QUESTION JUST ABOUT PW TWO, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ABSOLUTE AUCTIONS TO CONDUCT AN ONLINE AUCTION OF SURPLUS VEHICLES. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID A, UM, A COMPETITIVE BID FOR THAT? RECENTLY WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. MAYBE YOU JUST SIGNED THAT'S THAT LONG. IT, IT HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG WHEN WE MOVED AWAY FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T LIKE HAPPENING WITH. NO, BUT I'M JUST ASKING WHEN THERE WAS A BUT THEN A YEAR A YEAR WE VOTED ON IT. I'M JUST ASKING. I COULD LOOK AND YOU GOT AN ANSWER. NO, I, I DON'T. ANYTHING ELSE WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, I'M JUST ASKING. I KNOW, I JUST ASKED WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WHILE HE HAS TO FIND THE DATA, IS THERE ANYTHING, THE ATTORNEYS, AND ALSO, HOW OFTEN, HOW OFTEN DO WE, UH, GO TO BID FOR, FOR THAT? I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUR CONTRACT. I DON'T HAVE IT ON ME RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO. WE JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE JUST DID THAT LAST YEAR AND THEN LIKE RIGHT, BUT I'M SAYING TWO, ARE WE, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO THAT WE, ARE THESE CONTINUING? DO WE KEEP USING THE SAME COMPANY OR DO WE DID EVERY YEAR? OR DO WE, DID EVERY FIVE CHANGED THE COMPANY? WE WE'RE USING THE SAME COMPANY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WITHOUT YOU OBJECTING. AND THEN WHEN WE HAD A NEW DPW PERSON COME IN, UM, HE RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND WE WENT OUT TO BID AND THIS COMPANY WON THAT BID. OKAY. YOU ALSO EXTENDED THE CONTRACT IN MAY? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. FOR HOW LONG, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S VERY RECENT. I THINK IT'S A YEAR. I BELIEVE IT'S A YEAR. BUT I, THEY WON FIVE YEARS. I BELIEVE WE DID A YEAR. HOLD ON, JOE. HOW SO? FOR THREE ADDITIONAL YEARS. OKAY. ALL THREE? YES. OKAY. YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL THIS STUFF. BUT WE DIDN'T DO THE PREPARED. IT GONNA BE THREE ADDITIONAL YEARS. WE DIDN'T DO THREE YEARS THE FIRST TIME. I KNOW THAT THEY WANTED FIVE YEARS. WE DID ONE YEAR BECAUSE THEN WE HAD TO YEAH, BECAUSE WE, WE SAW THEM. WE TRIED, WE DID A TRIAL WITH, MAYBE IT'S ADDITIONAL TO THE ONE YEAR BECAUSE WE DO THE TRIAL WITH THEM. JUST GIMME ONE SECOND HERE. YEAH, NO, IT LOOKS LIKE THREE YEARS TO ME. BUT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IT. THREE YEARS. THE FIRST ONE, I, I DON'T HAVE THE FIRST ONE. I GOTTA PULL UP THE FIRST ONE. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE'VE BEEN USING THEM FOR FOUR YEARS. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT. NO, THIS, THIS IS EXTENDED THEM FOR THREE YEARS. SO WE USED THEM FOR THE YEAR. SO NOW IT, THE FIRST, IT WAS ONE YEAR TO BEGIN WITH. IT'S ONE YEAR. SO WHEN IT SAYS THREE ADDITIONAL YEARS, IT'S NOT ANOTHER THREE YEARS. IT'S [01:00:01] UH, THREE MORE YEARS AFTER THE ONE . SO WE GAVE, WE HAD, WE HAD A TEST PERIOD. NO, IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE WE ALREADY HAD THREE YEARS. SO, SO NO THREE YEARS STARTING IN MAY. WE HAD THE ONE YEAR AND THEN THE THREE. SO IT WAS LIKE A TEST PERIOD TO SEE HOW THEY DID IN THAT ONE YEAR. THAT'S EXACTLY, AND THEN ONCE THEY COMPLETED IT SATISFACTORILY, WE SAID, AND WHAT THEY ASKED FOR WAS FIVE YEARS AND WE SAID NO AND NO. AND BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD CONTROLS IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE ABUSERS. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA IF WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I ACTUALLY HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION. ARE WE READY FOR THAT? YEAH. UM, SUPERVISOR, IF YOU COULD MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FINANCIAL OR EMPLOYMENT HISTORY OF PARTICULAR PERSONS MATTERS LEADING TO THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, PROMOTION, AND REMOVAL OF PARTICULAR PERSONS OR A CORPORATION PROPOSED PENDING AND CURRENT LITIGATION. AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. DOES HE HAVE TO NOW REPEAT THAT PERSON? NO. ANYONE COULD SAY I MAKE THAT MOTION. I MAKE THAT MOTION. , DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND WE WON'T BE COMING BACK TONIGHT, BUT WE WILL BE HERE TOMORROW. WE'LL BE HERE TOMORROW. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.