* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. FOR ME, PLEASE. [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD AGENDA Tuesday, August 11, 2026 – 7:00 P.M. This meeting will take place in the Lee F. Jackson Room at Town Hall, located at 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh NY, and will also take place via Zoom. For additional details (opportunity for the public to attend, listen, or observe) please contact planning@greenburghny.gov. The meeting will be available to be streamed as an archive, via the Town's website.] [00:00:02] SURE THING. CHAIRPERSON. OSHA? I'M HERE. MS. CURCIO? I'M HERE. MS. PURDY? HERE. MR. REBO HERE. AND I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT MR. IS NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING, AND THAT WE HAVE COUNSEL ED LIEBERMAN PRESENT. HAVE YOU, DID YOU ALL GET A CHANCE TO READ THE MINUTES? IF NOT, TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THEM. ARE THEY IN FRONT OF YOU? YES. OKAY. I HAD NO CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS WHEN I READ THEM. SO LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY. WELL, IN, IN SEEING THIS RENDERING, RIGHT, WHICH I SUPPOSE IS IN RESPONSE TO YES. THE QUESTION I SEE THAT THEY DID NOT PROVIDE THE ELEVATION THAT I REQUESTED. THEY PROVIDED AN ANGLE AS OPPOSED TO THE EXACT ELEVATION. SO WE'LL BRING IT UP UNDER, BUT I JUST REALIZED THAT IT'S NOT IN THE MINUTES THAT I REQUESTED THAT ELEVATION. OKAY. OKAY. THEN LET'S ADD IT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MINUTES, BUT I SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED A VIEW OF THAT ELEVATION, NOT OF THE ANGLE, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE THE SWOOP AND WHETHER THAT WOULD BE PRESERVED. SO A VIEW OF THE ELEVATION, NOT THE ANGLE. CORRECT. UM, THE HENRY STREET ELEVATION. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THEN YOU SHOWED THE PHOTO. CORRECT. ANNETTE, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE MINUTES AND AGENDA IN FRONT OF YOU? YES. NO, I DON'T NEED YOUR COPY. I NEED MY OWN. AND THAT'LL SHOW THE SUIT. IT SAYS HERE SHE AGREED TO PROVIDE A 3D REVIEW OF THE SAME VANTAGE. MM-HMM . BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET AS YOUR PHOTO. EXACTLY. BUT THAT, SO IT'S IN THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT IT'S NOT WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT'S IN HERE THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU REQUESTED. BUT I'D LIKE TO SPECIFY THAT THE VANTAGE POINT WAS FROM HENRY STREET YES. OF THAT FULL ELEVATION, NOT OF AN ANGLE. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS OF THE MINUTES? NO, I THINK IT'S GOOD. YEAH, I, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD APPROVE THE REST. OKAY. UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. CHAIR VOTES. AYE. UM, UNDER CORRESPONDENCE AND UNDER NUMBER THREE, UM, I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF CALENDAR WORK. OUR MEETING IN SEPTEMBER HAS BEEN CHANGED TO THE 15TH BECAUSE WE ALL OBJECTED TO, UM, ABOUT COMING IMMEDIATELY AFTER LABOR DAY. OKAY. SO DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? OKAY. AND SO FROM 9 8 9 8 TO NINE 15, RIGHT? YES. THANK YOU. WELCOME. THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA. YEAH, IT'S ON, IT'S NOTED ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT? RIGHT. IT SAYS TENTATIVE, I THINK, RIGHT? NO. OR DID I, I UPDATED. OKAY. BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE ON THE RECORD. YES. UM, AARON DEAL, MAGNI WAS PUT OVER UNTIL WHAT DATE IN SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER 2ND, THE SECOND. CORRECT. UM, AND I ASKED AARON IF HE COULD, UM, NOW WHAT, WAIT A SECOND. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? SURE. IT'S OVER UNTIL SEPTEMBER 2ND. YEAH. YES. BUT THE FOR NOT FOR US, FOR THE PLANNING BOARD. THE PLANNING BOARD. PLANNING BOARD. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT. YES. AND DO YOU BY THEN, DO YOU THINK, AARON, THAT HE WILL HAVE STAKED THE DRIVEWAY? YES. I, AS SOON AS UH, WE GOT OFF THE PHONE, I SENT THEM AN EMAIL. OKAY. AND THEY HAVE BEEN QUITE RESPONSIVE, UH, BECAUSE FOLLOWING THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING BOARD ASKED, OR I ASKED REALLY FOR THEM TO UPDATE THE LANDSCAPING PLANS, TO HAVE ALL THE LANDSCAPING ON ONE SHEET. MM-HMM . RATHER ON MULTIPLE SHEETS. THE BOARD ALSO WANTED A RESPONSE RELATED TO THE POTENTIAL OR SUGGESTED CONSERVATION EASEMENT AT THE REAR THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE CEMETERY PROPERTY. UH, SO THEY'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE. UH, I SUSPECT [00:05:01] THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THAT STAKE IN THE GROUND. THERE'S NO WAY TO FURTHER PROTECT THREE 50 OLD ARMY ROAD. I THINK. WELL, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON WITH THAT. SO IN TERMS OF THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION, IT GETS QUITE A BIT STEEPER THE CLOSER YOU GO TO TOWARDS CENTRAL. MM-HMM . SO THEY WANTED, IT ALSO IS ON THE BEND THERE, SO OH, YEAH. AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE PROPER LINES OF SIGHT COMING OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY. SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY COORDINATED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM, NEVERTHELESS. SO THAT IS PART OF THE REASON, OR A FEW OF THE REASONS WHY IT IS SITUATED UP ON, LET'S CALL IT THE HIGH SIDE OR CLOSER TO, TO THREE 50 DOESN'T REQUIRE A VARIANCE. WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE ROCK REMOVAL. AND IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT PROTECTION AND PROPER PRE-SURVEY WORK OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TAKE PLACE. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE NOTED THAT, UH, DUE TO THE EXTENT OF ROCK THAT THEY BELIEVE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED, THAT THEY MAY BE LEANING TOWARDS BLASTING. IF THAT'S THE CASE, UH, THEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE TOWN'S BLASTING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH REQUIRE THOSE SURVEYS THAT I MENTIONED. AND I SPOKE WITH THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR ABOUT THAT. WE DO HAVE A THIRD PARTY BLASTING INSPECTOR, AND SHE INDICATED THAT ULTIMATELY IF AN APPLICANT SEEKS TO BLAST IT ULTIMATELY, UH, IS UP TO HIM WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL APPROVE THAT BASED ON THE SITE ITSELF AND BASED ON ADJACENT SITES AND STRUCTURES. SO THAT'S DOMINIC CAROLO, WHO'S BEEN WITH THE TOWN FOR A LONG TIME. IF EITHER THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO HAMMER THE ROCK, UH, OR CHIP THE ROCK OR THE TOWN AND OR ITS CONSULTANT, DO NOT PERMIT THEM TO BLAST. AND AGAIN, THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING TYPICALLY THAT'S, UH, IDENTIFIED BY, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING BOARD. SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME UP LATER IN THE PROCESS. THEN, THEN THERE ARE OTHER MEASURES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN IN CONNECTION WITH ROCK HAMMERING. UH, THERE'S WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS A HIGH RESOLUTION SEISMIC REFRACTION SURVEY THAT HAS TO BE DONE. THERE'S VIBRATION MONITORING MM-HMM . DUST CONTROL AND OTHER MEASURES, ALL OF WHICH GET REVIEWED NOT ONLY BY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, BUT ALSO BY THE THIRD, THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. UM, SO THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED. NEVERTHELESS, THE PLANNING BOARD, WHEN IT KNOWS THAT THERE'S ROCK REMOVAL IN CONNECTION WITH A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS, WILL IMPOSE UPON THE APPLICANT VARIOUS CONDITIONS RELATED TO BOTH BLASTING AND CHIPPING SO THAT IT COVERS BOTH SIDES. THAT COULD BE LIMITATIONS ON THE NUMBER OF DAYS, THE TIMING, UH, THE MEANS METHODS AND PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED IN SEPTEMBER AND THEN THEY WERE GETTING A DECISION ON THE STEEP SLOPE AND TREE REMOVAL PERMITS IN LATE OR MID OR LATE SEPTEMBER, AND THEY WERE, WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THEY WERE EAGER TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THAT'S DURING THE SCHOOL SESSION. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE TIMING OF THE WORK AND THE DAYS OF THE WORK. SO THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT WOULD GET DISCUSSED WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. OKAY. THE, UM, THE REASON THE REVEREND WASN'T THERE ON WEDNESDAY LAST WEEK IS THAT HE WAS ILL, HE HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVES THERE, HE TOLD ME, AND NOW HE'S OUT OF TOWN UNTIL, UNTIL HMM. THE 17TH OF AUGUST. SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING. THEY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MET, HE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO MEET. UM, IT'D BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE IF THE FOUNDATION OF THREE [00:10:01] 50 CAN HANDLE EVEN CHIPPING RIGHT. AND THE OWNERS. OH, NO, HE DOES. HE'S HAD THAT HONOR ALREADY. HE REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO. WELL, THE, UM, PARDON ME, THE, THE OWNERS OF THREE 50 SUBMITTED CORRESPONDENCE THAT IS BEING SENT OFF TO THE APPLICANT AND THE BOARD. OKAY. UM, AND THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY AWARE OF THE HEARINGS TAKING PLACE BY THE PLANNING BOARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT DOES, UNLESS I HAVE THE PLANS OF ME. SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE MR. DO MCGEE'S IDEAS, THAT'S JUST FINE. UH, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT MY LAST SENTENCE. NO. THAT SAID HE, I I KNEW HE WOULD WANNA CLEAN UP HIS OTHER PROPERTY ON CENTRAL AVENUE. IT DID GET APPLAUSE. WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT HE'S WILLING TO DO THAT. NO, WE HAVE NOT. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FORMER SPA. YES. IS THAT THE ONE? I THINK THEY'RE MARKETING THAT SITE, NOT THE WAY IT LOOKS. WELL, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AS IS. YEAH. AS IS IS THAT THE ATLAS? YEAH. IS THAT THE ROUND BUILDING? YEAH. AARON, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THAT PROPERTY CAME BEFORE PLANNING BOARD OF YOUR BLANCHE ALTER AND FRAN MCLAUGHLIN? UM, HE WANTED TO PUT A 12 FOOT HIGH WALL UP BECAUSE THE BASE, THE HARDBALL FIELD IS JUST ABOVE IT. AND IT, IT, AFTER I THINK, I'M NOT SURE HE DISCOVERED HOW EXPENSIVE IT WOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE IT JUST COULDN'T BE ANY CEMENT SLAPPED TOGETHER THAT, THAT FELL THROUGH. AND NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN TALKED ABOUT SINCE. WERE YOU AWARE, I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS LOOKING TO EXPAND THE RUG STORE OR THE CARPET STORE, UH, THE RUG STORE. AND, UM, HE WANTED TO, THAT WAS SHORTLY AFTER THE STEEP SLOPE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED AND HE WANTED TO CUT INTO THE ROCK IN THE BACK AND THE FIELDS WERE UP ABOVE. AND YES, ULTIMATELY HE WITHDREW. SO YES, I REMEMBER THAT. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY NEW ITEMS. DO YOU HA DID ANYTHING COME IN THAT NEVER MADE THE AGENDA? NO. SO GOOD. TWO, TWO ITEMS TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, WHICH PROBABLY MAKES SENSE UNDER CORRESPONDENCE. THE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ALREADY ABOUT THE RENDERING FOR 1 95, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT ON THE RECORD HERE. UM, I AM GONNA GET BACK TO THOSE FOLKS AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT CARL MENTIONED. SO I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM TOMORROW. THEY'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO RESEARCH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DATES WERE YES. INCONSISTENT. SO THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT. THEY ARE FILING TO THE ZONING BOARD AND WILL NOT BE ON UNTIL AT LEAST SEPTEMBER. MID-SEPTEMBER. SO THIS BOARD WILL HAVE, ITS MEETING, I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER 17TH. SO THIS BOARD WILL HAVE ITS MEETING ON THE 15TH. RIGHT. I I, I, I KNOW I ASKED, BUT I, AND I'M NOT CONTENT IN THE BACK. IT'S THREE STORIES BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK THROUGH THE WINDOWS, THAT BOTTOM WAS A, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY FINISHED. THEN THERE'S THE GARAGE ON THE NEXT FLOOR, AND THEN THE TOP IS GOING TO BE AN OFFICE. THE BOTTOM FLOOR IS SUPPOSED TO BE A, UM, A POOL OF, UH, CABANAS OR WHATEVER FOR THE SWIMMING POOL. AM I RIGHT THERE? IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE LAYOUT? YES. IN TERMS OF THE STORIES, YOU KNOW, THAT GETS REVIEWED BY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE. SO I DON'T BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT THEY DO NEED A, A HEIGHT VARIANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE WIDENING THE DORMER. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S ALREADY ABOVE THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT. I WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. ARE THEY, [00:15:01] WHEN, WHEN CARL AND I VISITED, WE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GONNA CUT INTO THE SIDE, THE FOUNDATION OF THE SIDE CLOSEST TO THE POOL. IS THAT TRUE OR ARE THEY JUST GONNA WALK AROUND? 'CAUSE THERE IS A DOOR IN THE, IN THAT FOUND THAT STONE FOUNDATION ALREADY IN THE BACK, YOU MEAN? YEAH. UH, I BELIEVE SHE REPRESENTED THAT THEY HAD NO NEED FOR THAT DOOR. SO THEY WERE REMOVING IT AND GONNA PUT IN TWO WINDOWS. I BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE. DO YOU MEAN THE SIDE OR THE BACK? THE BACK'S BACK. OH, OKAY. RIGHT. THERE'S A DOOR THERE. . HOW DO YOU GET THERE FROM, HOW DO YOU GET INSIDE FROM THE POOL IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T, UM, THAT'S THE DOOR. THIS DOESN'T SHOW WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ACCURATE. THIS EXISTING IS NOT ACCURATE. IT'S NOT ACCURATE. I CAN SHOW YOU PICTURES. I HAVE PICTURES. UM, NO, THAT I THINK IS A QUESTION THAT WASN'T ANSWERED. THE RENDERING MAY BE OF, DOES IT SAY EXISTING CONDITIONS OR PROPOSED CONDITIONS? YES. IT SAYS EXISTING VIEW FROM HENRY. HERE IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT, THIS IS THE EXISTING VIEW FROM HENRY. OH MY. WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT. YEAH, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM, SHE'S GOTTA GET THAT RIGHT. THAT'S NOT, OKAY. SO EXISTING CORRECT, EXISTING VIEW FROM HENRY IS INCORRECT. THAT'S FROM HENRY. INACCURATE. OKAY. I'M JUST WRITING THIS DOWN SO I CAN YES, NO, FINE. THANK YOU. WELL, THEY WILL BE, I MEAN, I'M GONNA OBVIOUSLY TOMORROW REQUEST THIS ADDITIONAL INFO AND, AND REVISED DOCUMENTATION, BUT THEY WILL, I CAN CIRCULATE MADELINE THE VARIANCE DETERMINATION MEMO AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD AT A FUTURE POINT. THAT'S FINE. I I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE A PROBLEM HERE OTHER THAN THE, OTHER THAN THE INACCURACIES. RIGHT. AND THAT'S OFF PUTTING. OKAY. OKAY. I'M GONNA WANDER DOWN ONE MORE THING. UM, I DO, I DO HAVE ONE MORE. YEAH. OKAY. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. THAT'S OKAY. SO GO AHEAD. JUST A QUICK, QUICK, JUST HEADS UP. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE AN APPLICATION THAT COMES BEFORE YOU LIKELY AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. IT'S ON OAK STREET IN HARTSDALE NEAR OFF OF JANE STREET IN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS. AND IT'S AN INTERESTING PROPERTY. SO APPARENTLY IT WAS BUILT FOR, I COULD BE WRONG ON THIS, BUT SOMETHING LIKE IT WAS BUILT FOR TWO SISTERS AND THE DRIVEWAY ACTUALLY GOES ACROSS THE TWO SIDE PROPERTY LINES WHERE THE PROPERTY ABUT ONE ANOTHER AND IT GOES TO A, A GARAGE THAT THEY SPLIT. IT WAS A TWO BAY GARAGE AND ONE CAR WOULD GO TO THE ONE SISTER, ONE WOULD GO TO THE OTHER. THE HOMES ARE OLD. UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THE TEENS OR THE TWENTIES OR THE THIRTIES OR EVEN THE FORTIES. I CAN'T REMEMBER OFFHAND. DO YOU HAVE ADDRESS, I THINK IT'S 14 AND 18 OAK STREET. I THINK. UM, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES IS BLURRED OUT ON GOOGLE MAPS. I KNOW THAT. ANYWAY, SO THE TWO LOTS ARE ONLY ON 20. THE TWO HOMES ARE ONLY ON 2,500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER. YEAH. SO YOU DON'T SEE THAT TOO OFTEN. UH, ONE OF THE HOMES IS COMING IN FOR, AND, AND IT'S GOT SOME HISTORY. THERE WAS AN ADDITION APPROVED BUT NEVER BUILT. THEY NEED A SLEW OF VARIANCES. THEY DO NEED A, A WATER COURSE PERMIT THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD BECAUSE THERE'S A STREAM ACROSS THE STREET. BUT, UM, THERE'S AN ARCHITECT REPRESENTING THE OWNER. AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK THEY'RE DOING AN ADDITION AND A MODIFICATION TO THE FRONT PORCH AND THEY'LL BE COMING TO H AND LPB. THEY SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION, THAT'S WHY I KNOW SOME OF IT. UH, HOWEVER, THEY, INSTEAD OF COMPLETING THE QUESTIONNAIRE, THEY COMPLETED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION. I GUESS THEY FOUND THAT ON THE WEBSITE . AND IT'S NOT A LANDMARK, SO THAT'S NOT, UH, REQUIRED. CARL, HAVE YOU FOUND [00:20:01] ANYTHING AT THAT ADDRESS OR AM I OFF? I FOUND A, UH, 14. THAT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 14 OAK STREET. TWO BLOCKS FROM THERE. I DON'T KNOW. IS THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR? YEAH, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT. CAN YOU SEE THAT? LOOKS LIKE IT WITH THE PORCH ON THE FRONT. YEAH. AND THERE'S A DRIVE 14. YEAH. AND I THINK THE OTHER IS 18, I THINK. WHERE'S THE SECOND HOME ON THAT SAME ONE? LOOK FOR IT. IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY. AND IT'S COVERED BY LIKE TREES OR WOODED VEGETATION. AND I THINK IT'S BLURRED OUT ON GOOGLE MAPS TOO. IT'S NOT OCCUPIED. IT'S NOT FOR SALE. THAT'S ONE THING I DO NOT. THERE'S THE RED, I THINK IT IS OCCUPIED. YEAH, IT'S BLURRED, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. IS IT THE RED ONE OR THE BLURRED ONE? IT'S THE BLURRED ONE. OKAY. SO, YEAH, SO IT'S GONNA BE FUN. THE, UM, IT IS OCCUPIED AND THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, HAS GROWN. SO THEY'D LIKE TO CONSTRUCT ANOTHER BEDROOM. I THINK, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. I'M, WHICH ONE? ON, ON WHICH LOT? 14 OR 18? I THINK 14. AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE MATERIALS IN FRONT OF ME 'CAUSE THEY WERE INCOMPLETE, BUT ONCE THEY ARE COMPLETE I WILL DISTRIBUTE THEM TO THE BOARD. DO YOU KNOW WHO THE ARCHITECT IS? UM, CHRISTINE BRODA. MM-HMM . SHE'S A LOCAL, I THINK SHE LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK. UM, ANYWAY, WHEN THAT IS FULLY, IT, IT WAS JUST A QUICK UPDATE FOR ME TO MAKE YOU AWARE AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THAT WOULD BE ON FOR SEPTEMBER. OKAY. THAT WORKS. UH, THE KNOWLES WILL BE ON THE TOWN BOARD MAYBE OF 9 9, 9 9? YES. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS WITH THE TOWN BOARD. THE TOWN BOARD'S ADJOURNED IT TO SEPTEMBER 9TH. BUT AT THE SAME, A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE ALSO HAPPENED. ONE, I'LL GET TO THE DOCUMENT THAT I DISTRIBUTED, BUT FIRST TOWN STAFF HAS, UH, THROUGH THE COMMISSIONER, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER HAVE ISSUED COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT THAT THEY WANT FULLY ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THE PROJECT, UH, GETTING BACK ON WITH THE TOWN BOARD. AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER DUQUESNE REQUESTED THAT ANY RESPONSE SUBMITTAL BE PROVIDED BY AUGUST 24TH. SO IF THEY DON'T, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION THAT HAS TO GO OUT TO THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GIVE THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND OTHERS TIME TO REVIEW THOSE MATERIALS AND PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS AHEAD OF SEPTEMBER 9TH. IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT DEADLINE, THEY'RE IN JEOPARDY OF BEING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. SECOND IS, UH, AND THAT WAS, AND THIS WAS FORWARDED BY MR. LIEBERMAN AND I PRINTED OUT AT LEAST ONE COPY, MAYBE A COUPLE. THERE WAS A PETITION SUBMITTED. UH, AND ED CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE THAN ME, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, AN APPEAL OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S DETERMINATION WITH RESPECT TO THE VARIANCES DEEMED REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE BETHEL KNOLLS PROJECT. THE EARLIEST THAT CAN BE ON WITH THE ZONING BOARD IS SEPTEMBER 17TH. AND THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH THAT LETTER, BUT I THINK FOLKS SHOULD CERTAINLY READ THROUGH IT AT THEIR LEISURE. OH, IT'S FASCINATING READING. I READ THROUGH IT TODAY. YEAH. MR. LIEBERMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON IT, PLEASE? WELL, UH, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ISSUED A DENIAL LETTER, WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE FIRST STEP IN AN APPEAL TO THE ZONING BOARD, UH, DETAILING SEVERAL VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE, UH, APPLICANT. UH, WHAT YOU RECEIVED WAS A LETTER FROM THE ATTORNEY FOR NEIGHBORS, THE BUDDING PROPERTY OWNER, SAYING THAT WHAT THE NUMBER OF VARIANCES REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING AND DEPARTMENT IS INSUFFICIENT AND THAT THEY NEED IN FACT, ADDITIONAL VARIANCES [00:25:01] OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WERE DETAILED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. UH, I CHECKED THIS AFTERNOON, AND TO DATE THERE IS THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER ITSELF HASN'T COME IN FOR THE VARIANCES. OH, THAT'S, SO THIS AND, AND MY, IN MY OPINION, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE AN APPEAL BY THE, UH, NEIGHBORS, THAT THE TWO CASES WHEN THE APPLICANT, WHEN THE OWNER DOES COME IN, SHOULD BE HEARD TOGETHER. SO THIS MAY BE ADJOURNED BEYOND SEPTEMBER 15TH. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OKAY. UM, DO WE NEED THERE, THERE IN, IN SEVERAL LETTERS THAT HAVE COME FROM THE STATE, AND I ALSO LOOKED IT UP ON THE INTERNET, BUT BEING THAT IT'S ME, I COULDN'T PRINT ANYTHING OUT FOR ANYBODY. UM, THERE ARE GUIDELINES FOR DECONSTRUCTING BUILDINGS THAT CANNOT OR WILL NOT BE INCORPORATED INTO A NEW BUILD, UH, INTO A NEW BUILDING. DO IF, IF WE ADD DECONSTRUCTION INTO OUR, OR WHEN WE ADD DECONSTRUCTION INTO OUR LEGISLATION, DO WE NEED TO LIST THE CRITERIA FOR THE DECONSTRUCTION OR DO WE JUST KNOW IT OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT I WOULD, MY SUGGESTION THERE, AND, AND ED FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN, IS THAT IF IT'S LIKE A STATE DOCUMENT, THEN WE CAN REFERENCE THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT COULD BE UPDATED AND YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE THAT EXACT LANGUAGE ONLY A YEAR FROM NOW FOR IT TO BE UPDATED. SO SOMETIMES WHAT THEY DO IN LEGISLATION, IF THEY'RE REFERENCING LIKE A STATE DOCUMENT, FOR INSTANCE, WITH STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THERE'S A DESIGN MANUAL. AND WHEN THE GOD BLESS YOU WITH THE TOWN CODE AND THE PLANNING BOARD CONDITIONS, SAY YOU MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DESIGN MANUAL DATED, YOU KNOW, JANUARY, 2024, OR ITS CURRENT VERSION OR SUCCESSOR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT SO THAT IT CARRIES IF THERE'S AN UPDATE. ED, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT ARE WE DISCUSSING HERE? WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DISCUSSING DECONSTRUCTION NO, NO. IN RELATION TO ANY ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA OR YEAH, BETH EL KNOWS. OH, SO WE SKIPPED THE AND, AND THE, AND THE AMENDMENTS, THE, THE POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO 2 35, WHICH ARE KIND OF AN ONGOING, RIGHT? YEAH. SO YOU, YOU WANT TO DEFINE DECONSTRUCTION? OKAY. I MEAN, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. YES. I THINK, I THINK BECAUSE NO, I THINK NOBODY REALLY UNDERSTANDS IT AND, UM, IT'S RATHER WELL DEFINED. I'LL BRING MY LAPTOP IN. ANYBODY WHO CAN SET ME UP, I CAN FIND IT FOR YOU. UM, I, YEAH, YOU NEED, I I, AARON, WHAT DID I TELL YOU? I LOOKED IT UP UNDER DECONSTRUCTION RULES FOR THE STATE IN NEW YORK. YES. DECONSTRUCTION GUIDELINES. NEW YORK STATE. DE YEAH. DEC. YEAH. SO WE DO, THERE ARE EXISTING STATE GUIDELINES. YES. AND THEY ALSO SEND US SOME THEY WANNA INCORPORATE BY REFERENCE. YES. DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S THE SAFEST THAT YEAH. THE PROPER WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. IF YOU AGREE WITH IT, YOU, YOU, I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD PRO PROHIBIT YOU FROM ADDING TO THOSE. OKAY. UM, AARON, I THINK JUST TO MAKE COMPLICATE MATTERS EVEN WORSE, THAT BETH EL KNOWLES IS GOING WHEN IT'S UP AND RUNNING, IS GOING TO NEED A PLAQUE BECAUSE OF WHAT IT WAS IN THE 18 HUNDREDS, WHAT IT WAS BETWEEN THE TWO WORLD WARS. OKAY. I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD LIKELY BE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHETHER IT'S DONE TONIGHT OR AT A FUTURE DATE, AND THERE TO BE A MOTION AND A VOTE TO [00:30:01] TRANSMIT, UH, YOU KNOW, A MEMO TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD RELATED TO THAT REQUEST. BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE FOR WINTHROP AND PAYNE STREET, THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD DID. MM-HMM . AND ULTIMATELY THAT WAS A SUBDIVISION. SO IT WAS SOLELY BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD THE BOOK, BUT THE PLANNING BOARD ADOPTED THAT CONDITION. AND WE DO HAVE THE PLAQUE, BY THE WAY. YES. UM, FOR WINTHROP AND PAYNE STREET, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. UM, WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO BREAK GROUND. AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE DEVELOPER, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO, UM, SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS DOWN THERE OH, GREAT. THROUGH THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, IT WILL SERVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'LL BE BRAND NEW UNITS. AND, UM, I DID TELL THE GENTLEMAN, THE OWNER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, H AND LPB WAS INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME SORT OF AN EVENT THERE FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING WHERE WE PUT UP THE PLAQUE TEMPORARILY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND INVITE NEWS 12 OR ANY LOCAL NEWS SOURCE. ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND THEN TAKE IT DOWN AND STORE IT IN OUR OFFICE UNTIL THE PROJECT'S COMPLETED, AND THEN HAVE IT PERMANENTLY INS INSTALLED. WHERE IS THE AARON? WHERE IS THE, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSING GOING TO GO? SO, UH, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S, IT'S A SUBDIVISION AT THE CORNER OF PAYNE STREET AND WINTHROP AVENUE. IT WAS FOR FOUR HOUSES. EIGHT, EIGHT HOUSES IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. I THINK IT'S NINE LOTS, EIGHT HOUSES, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WOULD RATHER LARGE PROPERTY AND IT'S GONNA BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT OH, NICE. UH, THE BUYER IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM, UH, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND RELATED FUNDING. UH, SO THOSE WILL, THEY WILL NOT BE ATTACHED UNITS. IT'LL BE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. OKAY. 'CAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY DOWN ON SAWMILL THAT WAS VACANT. I THINK IT WAS AN OLD GAS STATION OR SOMETHING THAT WEST TAB WANTED TO PUT UP A, AN APARTMENT BUILDING. SO THERE IS, UH, SO YEAH, KIND OF IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD ON NINE A. THE OTHER ONE, IT IS NOT RELATED. THERE WAS A PRESENTATION BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD. I FORGET THE ADDRESS, BUT IT'S A SAWMILL RIVER ROAD ADDRESS. MAYBE 1 72, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. IT'S JUST NORTH OF THE OLD IF FOR THOSE THAT REMEMBER THE RED FOX DINER THAT WAS ON NINE A IN ELMSFORD. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, I REMEMBER THE OLD RED FOX DINER. YEAH. SO NORTH OF THAT SAME SIDE OF THE STREET, AND IT'S AN OLDER MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, AND THERE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT WANTS TO GET VARIANCES OR REZONE THE PROPERTY TO PUT IN A, YOU KNOW, LIKE SEVERAL DOZEN APARTMENTS THAT HASN'T GAINED ANY TRACTION. THEY WERE GOING TO POTENTIALLY DO A COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETING. THEY BEING THE TOWN BOARD COMMISSIONER DUQUESNE AND OTHERS, THAT WAS TENTATIVELY LINED UP FOR, I THINK EVEN TOMORROW OR THE 19TH MAYBE, MAYBE THE 19TH. BUT IT'S BEING PUSHED OUT OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEXT TO THE RED, RED FOX. THAT'S NOT THE OLD GADA BUILDING IS IT? WHERE GADA THE, THAT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. WHAT I KNOW IS THAT NORTH OF THE RED FOX DI OR THE FORMER RED FOX DINER SITE, THERE WAS A VACANT LOT THAT'S KIND OF LIKE GRASPED. AND THEN, AND THOSE ARE BOTH IN ELMSFORD. AND THEN THE NEXT LOT HAS A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING THAT'S KIND OF SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IN THE GREATEST SHAPE. THEY'VE HAD A NUMBER OF, UM, NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS OVER THE YEARS, AND A GENTLE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO BUY IT AND DEVELOP A NEW MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. OH YEAH. THAT, THAT AREA SHOULD BE REDEVELOPED DOWN THERE. THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETING FOR, TO SPEAK TO LOCAL RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PROSPECT TO REDEVELOP AND, AND BRING THAT AREA UP TO KIND OF LIKE CURRENT STANDARDS. UM, AND THERE'S ANOTHER SITE, JUST SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I'LL BE BRIEF. UH, THE OLD FLOORING LIQUIDATORS SITE THAT ONCE WAS THE NORTH STAR DINER, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THAT BURNT DOWN. UM, FLOORING LIQUIDATORS IS OUT OF BUSINESS. THEY [00:35:01] IS A DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO KNOCK THAT DOWN AND PUT IN A CAR WASH, BUT THAT REQUIRES A REZONING. SO I THINK THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, TWO CAR WASHES OVER THERE, THEY WANT TO PUT ONE THERE. SO, OKAY. UM, YOU, YOU WANT US TO TALK ABOUT, UH, A PLAQUE ON BETHEL KNOWLES SINCE IT'S BEEN POSTPONED? WE CAN DISCUSS ANY, ANYTHING IN SEPTEMBER IF WE NEED TO. CAN, UM, BETHEL KNOWS THOUGH. CAN WE PUT ON THERE THAT THE, UH, THE GARDENS WERE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED? OH YES. WE WOULD HAVE TO. SURE. I THINK THAT, THAT BY THE LAND, FEMALE LAND VERSUS FEMALE LANDSCAPERS. YEAH. WE WRITE, WE GET TO WRITE THE PLAQUE. YES. SO THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE IF SOMEONE WAS ASSIGNED, OR TWO PEOPLE WERE ASSIGNED TO WORK TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOME DRAFT LANGUAGE FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE FINAL LANGUAGE, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE PREPARED IN DRAFT FORMAT. OKAY. LET'S TAKE A VOTE, SHALL WE, UM, MAY I MAKE SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION THAT WE'RE, THAT WE WANT TO, UM, CREATE A PLAQUE ON THE BETH EL KNOWLES PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTING WHAT IT, THAT IT WAS AN ORIGINAL GENTLEMAN FARMER'S HOUSE. THAT THE LANDSCAPING WAS BY THIS ARCHITECT DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR. IT BECAME AN ORPHANAGE FOR DISPLACED CHILDREN. OKAY. MAY I HAVE, UH, SOMEBODY MAKE THAT MOTION? OR MAKE THAT MOTION? SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. I VOTE. AYE. OKAY. AARON? YEAH. AND, AND WHO WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO WORK ON THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE 15TH? I WOULD YOU LIKE TO ARMENIA? I'LL START IT. OKAY. I'LL HELP OUT IF I CAN. THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I HAVE PLANS FOR YOU THE HOMEOWNER SENT US EXACTLY. TIMES YOU HAVE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT LETTER PROBABLY, RIGHT? THAT THE EUGENE WROTE PHOTOS. YEAH, EXACTLY. THEY WROTE WITH THE PHOTOS. ALSO THE ORIGINAL PHOTOS OF THE OH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I MIGHT HAVE EXTRA COPY TOO. OKAY. UM, LET'S DO, OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. LET'S TALK ABOUT REGENERON AND THE SIGNAGE. AND I'M THINKING, AARON, THAT IT'S MORE THAN ONE SIGNAGE FOR REGENERON BECAUSE THE BURIAL MOUND IS, IS DIFFERENT. THE NULL? NO. REGENERON. NO, NOT THE NULLS. THE KNOLL ON THE REGENERON PROPERTY. OH, YES. ITS REFERRED TO AS THE KNOLL. YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. ISN'T THAT CONSIDERED, UM, AN INDIAN BURIAL GROUND THAT I, I WOULD HAVE TO DIG UP. UM, I'M JUST MAKING NOTES POSSIBLY TO, UM, THE KNOLL. WHAT I HAVE TO, WHAT I WOULD HAVE TO DO IS DIG UP THE ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY THAT WAS DONE WHEN THEY SUBDIVIDED MM-HMM . AND, AND I CAN CIRCULATE THAT TO THE BOARD. UM, SO I'M JUST WRITING THAT DOWN. CIRCULATE. THEY DEFINITELY DID A PHASE ONE A. THEY MAY HAVE DONE A PHASE ONE B ALSO, BUT I WILL LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID AND I WILL CIRCULATE TO THE BOARD. WELL THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'LL BE THE, THE BASIS FOR ONE. BUT IF MY BRAIN IS WORKING, AND IT MAY NOT BE, WASN'T THAT ORIGINALLY CALLED EASTVIEW AND DIDN'T ROCKEFELLER HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT? AND THEN IT BECAME, COME ON, ANNETTE, HELP ME. IT BECAME A, UM, SO WELLER, I HAVE SOME INFO ON IT. DID, DID YOU SEE, DID EVERYONE SEE THE INFO THAT I CIRCULATED, THAT I'D MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE THE LOCAL GENTLEMAN PUT TOGETHER SOME WRITEUPS ON, UH, HIS, ON ESTATES WITHIN THE RIVER TOWNS AND IN GREENBURG, AND IT WAS A FACEBOOK LINK, OR MAYBE I EVEN COPIED THE TEXT OUT OF IT AND I CIRCULATED IT TO THE BOARD, BUT IT WAS KNOWN AS THE EASTVIEW FARM. MM-HMM . AND THERE'S SOME PHOTOS AND THERE'S [00:40:01] THE HISTORY. I MEAN, THE GENTLEMAN WAS RAGS TO RICHES, YOU KNOW, CAME OVER WITH HIS PARENTS. HE STARTED A GROCER. RIGHT. HE STARTED A GROCER. BUT WAS BUTLER STORES. BUTLER STORES. IT WAS THEN IT, THEN IT BECAME A, UM, A BREEDING FARM FOR RACE HORSES. THAT PART I DO REMEMBER. RIGHT. SO BUTLER GROCER. CORRECT. AND THEN HE, HE ALSO AT ONE TIME OWNED YONKERS RACEWAY. AND UM, HE, YOU KNOW, GOT A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THE GROCER. I MEAN, HE STILL RAN IT, BUT REALLY LOVED THE HORSES. HE BUILT A RACETRACK THERE. HE BRED HORSES. HE HAD, YOU KNOW, HORSES THAT WERE WINNERS OF, YOU KNOW, BIG EVENTS. AND THEN, UH, SORT OF A SET UNTO THE STORY. HE PASSED AWAY. IT WENT TO THE SUN. THE SUN HAD NO INTEREST IN THE GROCER. WITHIN TWO YEARS THEY WERE BANKRUPT. HE WAS MORE INTO THE HORSES. UM, BUT YEAH, I WILL RECIRCULATE THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES A LOT OF HISTORY OF THE EASTVIEW FARM PROPERTY. AND IT TOUCHES A LITTLE BIT ON ROCKEFELLER BECAUSE EASTVIEW WAS A SMALL, YOU KNOW, I'LL CALL IT LIKE A HAMLET, SO TO SPEAK. MM-HMM . WHEN THE OLD PUTNAM RAILROAD WAS THERE, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A STOP. AND THEN ROCKEFELLER WHEN ONE OF 'EM ACQUIRED ALL THE, YOU KNOW, LAND, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LOVE HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, SMALLER HOMES AND, AND AND WHATNOT. AND THIS LITTLE HAMLET THERE. SO HE JUST BOUGHT IT ALL OUT AND LEVELED IT. . YEAH. RIGHT. YES. HE DIDN'T DECONSTRUCT, HE JUST NO, HE, YEAH. BUT HE, BUT WE WEREN'T IN SESSION THEN. NO. ADAPTIVE REUSE . IT WASN'T AN ADAPTIVE REUSE EITHER. UM, OKAY. WHAT'S WITH, UM, ALRIGHT, BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER, I'M SORRY, AARON. THERE'S A MESSAGE ON THIS, UH, LAPTOP THAT SAYS THIS DEVICE WILL REBOOT IN 15 MINUTES TO COMPLETE WINDOWS UPDATE. AND THAT MESSAGE HAS BEEN UP FOR AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES. MM-HMM . DOES, IS THERE AN OPTION THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO FINISH THE MEETING IN 10 MINUTES? IT DOES. OH, I, I'M X OUT. WELL, UH, ANOTHER OPTION IS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUSH THAT UPDATE OUT. THERE MAY BE A DROPDOWN MENU. THERE IS NO, IT'S, IT'S ONLY OFFERING YOU RESTART NOW OR X OUT. OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, JUST IN CASE. BUT ED, YOU COULD WALK OVER TO SAM WHO I THINK IS GONNA BE THERE FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR 10 MINUTES JUST TO LET HIM KNOW ABOUT THAT. OKAY. OKAY. I, UM, 5 99. YES. AARON SOMEWHERE. AND I PUT EVERYTHING IN A BIG CRATE AND I MEAN BIG ON OF H AND LPB STUFF THIS YEAR. AND I KNOW THAT I SAW THE FACADE ONCE A OF THE FACADE OF 5 99. AND I KNOW THAT THEY ASKED US DID WE LIKE THAT BETTER THAN SOMETHING ELSE? YES. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. THE WAY THE GARAGE DOOR WAS, THEN HE BROUGHT THE GARAGE DOOR TO THE BACK. YEAH. OKAY. SAID WE WOULD RATHER HAVE THE GARAGES BETTER. THAT'S WHAT WE LIKED BETTER THAN AT THE GARAGE DOOR THAT WE LIKED BETTER THAN THE OTHER. WE DIDN'T LIKE IT IN THE FRONT. HE BROUGHT IT AROUND TO THE BACK. OKAY. RIGHT. HE ALSO AGREED THAT THEY WOULD INCORPORATE SOME OF THE BRICK WORK INTO THE FRONT FACING FACADE. THE GENTLEMAN, THEY SHOWED A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. ONE I THINK WAS FULL BRICK, WHICH THEY DIDN'T LOVE BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN OWNS LIKE AN ALUMINUM COMPANY OR SOMETHING. SO THEN THEY SHOWED ONE THAT WAS ALL ALUMINUM. THE BOARD DIDN'T LIKE THAT. AND THEN HE SHOWED A THIRD OPTION THAT HAD THE BRICK EITHER ON THE LOWER LEVEL OR I THINK ON THE LOWER LEVEL AND THE ALUMINUM ON THE SECOND LEVEL. SO, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT ULTIMATELY WAS AGREED UPON THAT IT WAS A BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO. OTHERWISE IT WAS TOO MONOLITHIC THE WHOLE TIME. RIGHT. IT WAS HORRIBLE. RIGHT. VERY MUCH SO. I DROVE THERE THIS WEEK. NOWHERE COULD A LOT OF THINGS IN THE YARD WERE MISSING MM-HMM . ALREADY, BUT THAT'S CLEANED UP IN THE FRONT A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOTHING BEEN DONE YET. OKAY. UM, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY DID MAKE THE SUBMISSION TO THIS BOARD JUST GIVING THE ADVANCE NOTICE OF THE SCOPE OF WORK, AND THAT WAS CIRCULATED. [00:45:01] THEY DID BRING IN AN APPRAISER AND SUBMITTED AN APPRAISERS REPORT, UM, WHICH WAS FAIRLY LENGTHY, I THINK LIKE 20 SOMETHING PAGES. UH, THAT WAS FROM A GENTLEMAN NAMED MICHAEL FANELLI OUT OF NEW ROCHELLE. YES. MEMBER OF THE APPRAISERS ASSOCIATION. AND, YOU KNOW, HE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THE MATERIALS. AND I HAVE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED IN MY COMMENTS BACK TO MR. FANELLI WAS THAT THERE WAS NO INFORMATION ON THE BOOKS OR THE PHOTOS, UM, THAT WERE IN THE STRUCTURE. AND HE DID GET BACK TO ME AND INDICATED THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS SO DAMAGED OR MOLDED, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST DESTROYED BY MOLD WASN'T DAMAGED OR MOLDED. HE DIDN'T SPEND THE TIME, BUT THE PEWS, THE STAINED GLASS AND SOME OTHER MATERIALS HE DID GO THROUGH IN THE REPORT, BUT THE BOOKS HE GOT RID OF. RIGHT. IF THEY WERE MOLDY, THEY WERE, HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T GET RID OF THEM. HE JUST DIDN'T APPRAISE THEM. OH. OH, SO THEY'RE STILL THERE. WELL, I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE. I'M NOT SURE IF THE, COULD THEY HAVE CLEAN, I MEAN, UH, ARMENIA SAID THERE WAS SOME WORK DONE. MAYBE THEY STARTED TO CLEAN OUT A FEW THINGS. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE WITH THE REST OF THE BRICK? BECAUSE THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF BRICK. AND ARE THEY KEEPING THAT BUILDING? YES, THEY ARE. SO TWO THINGS, ANY BRICK THAT THEY DON'T USE, THERE'S ALL THE BRICK THAT'S POTENTIALLY REUSABLE, THEY'RE SETTING ASIDE. UM, THEN THEY WILL INCORPORATE WHAT THEY NEED INTO THE FACE OF THE BUILDING. ANYTHING EXTRA OR LEFTOVER, THEY'RE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, OFFER FOR DONATION OR SALVAGE. THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST JUNK IT. UM, SO THAT'S THE FIRST ANSWER. AND THEN THE SECOND IS THE REAR BUILDING THAT'S LABELED AS LIKE A CONCRETE BLOCK GARAGE. I HAPPEN TO SEE THAT ON ONE PLANET WAS SHOWN TO BE REMOVED AND ON ANOTHER, IT WAS SHOWN TO BE RETAINED OR PRESERVED. SO I ASKED THE APPLICANT'S ARCHITECT AND HE DID UPDATE THE PLAN TO INDICATE THAT IT IS GOING TO BE PRESERVED AND REPURPOSED. BUT THAT OTHER, WELL, I THOUGHT, AND EVERY NOW AND THEN I BEGIN TO WONDER IF I CAN READ PLANS. UM, THAT IF YOU, AS YOU WALK IN ON THE RIGHT, THERE'S A BUILDING THAT'S MUCH TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND IT'S ALL BRICK. I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMING DOWN, BUT I THOUGHT I SAW, AND I HAVE TWO OR THREE SETS OF PLANS THAT IT WAS BEING KEPT. YEAH. , UH, I HAVE THE PLANS. I, I HAPPEN TO BRING THOSE PLANS WITH ME. SO I DO HAVE THOSE PLANS AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS BEING REMOVED, BUT LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK. THERE WAS ONE BUILDING THAT WENT RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT. WHICH WAS, AND THAT, AND IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE IS IT'S RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE. MM-HMM . LINE IF I DON'T REMEMBER. SO THEY'RE MAKING THEM TAKE IT DOWN. I'M NOT MAKING THEM, WE'RE NOT MAKING 'EM DO ANYTHING. NO. THE, THE TOWN. OH, I HAVE NO IDEA. 'CAUSE THERE WAS NO PERMIT OR YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE PLANS. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT THEN THERE'S ANOTHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SAID THERE ON, THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING THAT WAS FURTHER BACK. YEAH, THAT'S, ISN'T THAT A GARAGE? I THOUGHT THAT WAS LIKE A GARAGE. THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. BUT IT WAS THE, YEAH, THE, THE ONE STORY BRICK BUILDING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT HAND SIDE OR EASTERLY PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT. UM, THERE'S A CONCRETE SHED TO THE REAR OF THAT, FURTHER INTO THE PROPERTY. THOSE ARE BOTH PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED. OH, OKAY. YEAH, I WOULD SO WHAT BUILDING ARE THEY GOING TO RETAIN THEN? IT'S IN THE FAR BACK LEFT, ALL THE WAY BACK ON THE LEFT. OKAY. BUT LET ME, YES, JUST I DON'T REMEMBER. YEAH, AARON, REMEMBER I DIDN'T GO BACK THAT FAR, BUT I REMEMBER SEEING, I, I'M LOOKING AT A LETTER FROM LAST SEPTEMBER. OKAY. WHERE THE BARRINO SAYS WE ARE PROPOSING THE COMPLETE DEMOLITION OF ALL EXISTING STRUCTURES, PLURAL ON THE SITE. YEAH. THAT'S CHANGED. THAT IS CHANGED. OKAY. SO SUPERSEDES THIS REPRESENTATION SUPERSEDES WHAT HE SAID BACK IN SEPTEMBER. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, I, I JUST, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. OH, AND THEY'RE USING, UM, THEY HAVE RETAINING WALLS AND THERE IS SOME WHAT I WOULD CALL FIELDSTONE IN, IN SOME RETAINING WALLS THAT I BELIEVE ARE COMING DOWN. [00:50:01] I DON'T WANNA PRESUME THAT THE ONSITE STONE AS FAR AS IT WILL GO, WILL BE PART OF THOSE RETAINING WALLS. OR WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO WITH THE FIELDSTONE? SO I WILL RELAY THAT QUESTION TO THEM. EXISTING FIELDSTONE AN EXISTING BRICK THAT THEY DON'T USE. WELL, YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO I HAVE THAT NOTE. UM, EXISTING FIELD STONE AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING ABOUT THE CHAPEL? BECAUSE THEY GOT THAT, THERE IS A WRITEUP ON IT, IF YOU REMEMBER. AND I THINK THE FRONT DOORS CAME FROM ONE PLACE AND THE STAINED GLASS FROM ANOTHER MM-HMM . AND THE PEWS FROM SOMETHING ELSE. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE, IT CAN'T BE JUNK. SO. RIGHT. THAT'S IN THEIR APPRAISER'S REPORT. BUT HE'S TAKEN THE RIGHT, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS NOT IN GREAT SHAPE, BUT THERE ARE ITEMS WITHIN THAT ARE WORTHY OF UM MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND THAT WAS LAID OUT. SO THE APPRAISER'S GONNA BE ON SITE. UM, LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, BUT THERE WAS A FOLLOW UP. BUT YOU GAVE THEM THE OKAY ALREADY TO DO THE WORK. YES. NO, THIS IS, THEY WERE GIVEN, UM, THEY WERE PERMITTED TO PROCEED INTO PHASE ONE DEMOLITION SLASH DECONSTRUCTION. CORRECT. PROVIDED THAT THEY SUBMIT THE APPRAISER'S REPORT AND COMMIT TO WHAT H AND LPB HAD DISCUSSED WITH THEM. SO I HAPPEN TO BE LOOKING AT, UM, PAGE 14 OF 22 OF THE APPRAISER'S REPORT. I JUST HAPPEN TO STUMBLE ONTO THAT. AND, UM, HE MENTIONS THREE DIFFERENT THINGS ON THAT PAGE. ONE, A SMALL UNCARVED PAINTED IN WHITE PAIR OF WOODEN ARCHED SOLID WOOD DOORS. HE IDENTIFIED THOSE AS IN POOR CONDITION, BUT WORTHY OF SALVAGE THE OVAL STAINED GLASS WINDOWS. HE NOTED THAT THE WINDOW ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS DAMAGED BUT WORTHY OF SALVAGING. AND THEN THERE'S A STATUE OF THE VIRGIN MARY, UH, IN GOOD CONDITION. SO THAT WAS JUST HAPPENED TO BE, UH, PAGE FOUR. WELL, THERE PAGE 14 NEWS THAT LOOKED LIKE THEY CAME OUT OF, AND I KNOW THEY CAME FROM SOMEWHERE. 'CAUSE I CAN REMEMBER SOMEBODY TELLING ME THAT. BUT YEAH, IF YOU, IF I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF YOU FLIP TO PAGE 15, HE THEN GOES ON INSIDE THE CHAPEL ENTRANCE AND HE MENTIONS ONE PAIR OF GOTHIC STYLE SANCTUARY CHAIRS IN DRY AND GOOD CONDITION, GIVES A VALUE AND ESSENTIALLY THAT THEY'RE WORTHY OF SALVAGING. UM, AND THEN ALSO THE STAINED GLASS WINDOWS WITHIN THE STRUCTURE, 20 INCHES BY 20 INCHES WITH THE THREE INCH ARCH WITH THE CENTER FOUR INCHES ROUND EYE OF YELLOW AND ORANGE AROUND A ACROSS FORMATION. AND YOU SAID THOSE WERE IN GOOD AS WELL, SO THAT WE HAVE THAT REPORT, WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW UP AS TO WHERE THESE ITEMS END UP. YES. CORRECT. SO THEY HAVE TO, ANOTHER ROUND OF REPORTING, THEY WILL DOCUMENT WHERE EACH OF THE ITEMS END UP AND THAT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE BOARD. AARON, WHEN, WHEN I WENT, OH, IT'S NOT MOUNT HOPE, BUT IT'S PART OF THAT COMPLEX THAT WAS BEING REDONE BY WHAT IT WAS, WHAT WAS IT? STEVEN WISE OUT OF NEW YORK. OKAY. THERE, OUR SPECIALISTS WHO NOT ONLY FIXED STAINED GLASS WINDOWS BUT REMOVED THEM. OKAY. AND THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT ANY TOM, DICK AND HARRY CANNOT REMOVE A STAINED GLASS WINDOW. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO PASS THAT ON. AND I DON'T KNOW, THESE WERE MUCH SMALLER THAN THE STAINED GLASS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. OH YES. OH, I KNOW THEY ARE. BUT YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO CRUMBLE IN THEIR HANDS. NO, BUT NO, YOU DON'T, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO PUT THEM UP. THAT WHAT'S INTERESTING AND WHAT FASCINATED ME ABOUT THAT CHAPEL WAS THAT IT WAS BUILT LITERALLY FROM LEFTOVERS OR DECOMMISSIONED, [00:55:01] WHATEVER THE RIGHT WORD IS. OTHER SANCTUARIES RELIEF. YEAH. SO THE DOORS CAME FROM A SYNAGOGUE. I, THEY TOLD ME WHERE THE BENCHES CAME FROM. IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT'S IN THE QUAKER MEETING HOUSE IN S SCARSDALE? UM, THE STAINED GLASS WINDOWS. I DON'T KNOW. AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS LISTED IN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I GOT THAT OR WHETHER PATRICK RRY OF WESTCHESTER HISTORIC. OH, IT WENT AWAY. OH, WESTCHESTER HISTORIC. UM, READ IT TO ME. BUT IT'S QUITE WELL KNOWN THAT, THAT THAT CHAPEL WAS PUT TOGETHER THROUGH THE LARGEST OF VARIOUS RELIGIONS, WHICH IS WHAT MADE ME LIKE IT SO MUCH. YEAH. UM, OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING, OH YES. WE NEED TO, UM, KEEP THE SIGNAGE THAT'S THERE AND ADD TO IT. WHAT? SIGNAGE? THERE'S SIGNAGE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. LOOKING AT IT. OKAY. I'M LOOKING AT IT. I WAS GOING TO ASK. THE SIGN SAYS, I THINK IT'S SAYS WE GOT ORGANIC THAT'S ON AARON'S SIDE. OH, OKAY. THE SIGN SAYS COLONIAL HOME LATER TAVERN. SCENE OF LEGEND OF WESTCHESTER GUIDE JOHN ODELL AND REVOLUTION. UM, AND FORMERLY A STAGE GO STOP. BUT IF THEY'RE TAKING DOWN THE STRUCTURE, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE SIGN WHICH SAYS, DESCRIBES WHAT'S THERE AS A COLONIAL HOME, WHICH WAS LATER A TAVR. I THINK THE SIGN SHOULD STAY. WELL, YOU, IT WOULD BE ONE THING IF IT'S AT SIGHT OF YES. WELL, I'M NOT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SAYS. AND YOU CAN'T ADAPT THE LANGUAGE IF THIS IS A, THE METAL, UH, YEAH. WE CAN PUT A NEW ONE IN. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YES. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REWORD IT. YES. YES. BECAUSE IT ALSO, IT WAS, IT BECAME ALL SORTS OF THINGS. AND SOMEWHERE IN THE LATE FORTIES, EARLY FIFTIES THAT VIAN AND HER BROTHER LIVED THERE AND BUT IT ALSO BECAME AN ANTIQUE STORE TOO. YES. YEAH. BUT THEY, THEY BECAME IT. THEY DID THE ANTIQUE STORE AND THEN THEY SOLD IT. I NEVER HEARD OF HER. BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN? WE HAVE TO GET A BETTER PICTURE OF THE, THE HOUSE, THE WAY IT EXISTS NOW. YES. AND THEN THE CHAPEL SO THAT THE TWO OF THEM COULD BECOME LIKE THAT KAY LINDEN PLAQUE. YOU ADD A PLAQUE THAT SHOWS THE RENDERINGS OF THOSE TWO. RIGHT. CARVE OUT TOO. THEN YOU MENTION THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BE AT THIS SITE. THERE'S SOME GOOD PICTURES OF THE CHAPEL HERE AND I THINK THAT THE SIGN MIGHT, MAYBE THE SIGN COULD BE RELOCATED. WELL, NOBODY KNOWS WHO, IF YOU REMEMBER. I KNOW NOBODY KNOWS HOW, HOW THE SIGN GOT THERE OR UNDER WHOSE AUSPICES, BUT IT IS ON ONLINE. YOU CAN FIND IT. I WE FOUND IT ONLINE. YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW, BUT YEAH. BUT NOBODY WANTS TO CLAIM FAME TO IT. NO, BUT WE NEED TO, IT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE PAST TENSE WAS THE SITE OF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT WITHOUT REDOING WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO A NEW PLAQUE. WE HAVE TO DO A NEW ONE. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO WOULD YOU PUT THAT ON THE LIST, AARON? YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT WAS REPAINTED ORIGINALLY. IT WAS A BLUE AND YELLOW. OH RIGHT. BLUE PLAQUE WAS YELLOW WRITING AND THEN SOMEBODY PAINTED IT RED. YEAH. YOU CAN HARDLY READ IT. YEAH. FROM THE PICTURE. ANYWAY. OKAY. I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE MY ONE MORE ITEM IS THE ITEM GUYMAN. IT SURE IS . THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT I HAVE AFTER THAT. YOU DON'T WANNA TALK FIRST? UM, WELL, I DON'T KNOW. WE GOT THE INFORMATION FROM GARRETT LATE LAST NIGHT AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S WILLING TO GO OUT THERE, AARON AND UH, GIVE A, A REAL, REAL ESTATE, UH, APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO COULD WE GET A, UH, ANOTHER SITE VISIT GOING MAR UH, MADELINE HAS NEVER SEEN IT AND WE COULD TAKE THIS REALTOR THERE. OKAY, SO ARMENIA OH, YOU WANT, SHE'LL DO INSIDE TOO. THIS IS ENGAGEMENT. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE, I THINK YOU HAVE TO SEE HOW DAMAGED IT IS INSIDE TO GET AN APPRAISAL. I REALLY JUST, I REALLY WOULD LIKE AN APPRAISAL OF THE HOUSE AND THE 1.11 ACRE PROPERTY. RIGHT. PERIOD. FIRST, THEN THE INSIDE SIDE. WELL, IF YOU CAN GET AN APPRAISAL OF [01:00:01] THE BUILDING, THEN IT WOULD HELP TO HAVE, DO IT SEPARATELY. IT, I GET IT. I DUNNO IF SHE'S QUALIFIED. SO THERE, THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION CIRCULATED FROM THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE GIVING A BALLPARK. BUT I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMEONE ELSE OUT THERE, I WOULD JUST ASK ARMENIA, CAN YOU EMAIL ME AND COPY MADELINE ON THE REQUEST? AND THEN THAT WAY I CAN BE REMINDED. I'M WORKING ON A , WORKING ON A GRANT APPLICATION DEADLINE. SO LIKE MY MIND'S IN SO MANY PLACES, IF YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, I WILL FOLLOW UP ON IT AND I'LL, I'LL FORWARD THE EMAIL. OKAY. UM, AND LET'S SEE WHERE IF WE CAN'T SET UP A SITE VISIT. YEAH. YOU'VE NOT, YOU'VE NOT BEEN INSIDE. NO. IT'S WORTH IT. YOU DID. YOU DID. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE DOING GRANTS OUT OF YOUR DEPARTMENT? WELL, BOTH GARRETT AND I AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT'S A FORESTRY RELATED GRANT. OH. AND I HAD OUR YOUNG FORESTRY OFFICER WORKING ON IT, BUT HIS WIFE JUST HAD A, THEIR FIRST SON. SO HE'S OUT. YEP. AND, UH, IT FELL INTO MY LAP AND THE DEADLINE'S TOMORROW. SO I WORKED, YOU KNOW, OH, WE GOTTA CUT THIS SHORT. ALRIGHT. EIGHT, EIGHT STRAIGHT HOURS ON IT TODAY. ? NO. OKAY. UM, SO THAT MEANS TOMORROW AFTERNOON YOU'LL BE AVAILABLE , RIGHT AFTER. THAT'S RIGHT. NO BREAKS. UM, OKAY. ARE, IF WE FIND A DATE AND A TIME FOR THIS REAL ESTATE AGENT, UH, WILL YOU SET UP TRY TO SET UP THE MEETING OR DO WE JUST GO OVER THERE AND HOPE FOR THE BEST? NO, NO. I'LL, I'LL ARRANGE FOR IT. YEAH. OKAY. AND IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD, IT'S GOOD FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE APPLICANT TEAM. 'CAUSE IT SHOWS WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. THE BOARD WAS ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE THAT'S ABLE TO ASSIST IT WITH THIS MM-HMM . INITIAL WORK. AND, UM, SO THAT, THAT'LL BE GOOD. ONCE I GET THAT EMAIL, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY TOMORROW AFTERNOON I'LL BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO MS. HOOT AND SEE IF WE CAN ARRANGE FOR IT. UM, DO WE HAVE A SCHEDULE OF THIS INDIVIDUAL OR LIKE, HOW DO YOU BEST WANT ME TO DO IT? I'M SURE SHE'S, I'M SURE SHE'S FLEXIBLE. I'M ONLY AVAILABLE THURSDAY AFTERNOON, FRIDAY THIS WEEK, AND THEN I'M ON VACATION. OH. SO IF WE COULD DO IT QUICKLY THIS WEEK, I'D TO, OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA WAIT TO THE WEEK OF THE 24TH. NO, WE DON'T WANNA WAIT THAT. NO, WE DON'T WANNA WAIT THAT LONG. SO LET'S SEE IF WE COULD DO IT THURSDAY AFTERNOON OR FRIDAY, THURSDAY AFTERNOON OR FRIDAY. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OKAY. I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO JOIN YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. BUT THAT'S OKAY. UM, THURSDAY AFTERNOON OR FRIDAY. OKAY. YEAH. JUST FORWARD ME THAT EMAIL. IT'LL BE FUN WITHOUT YOU, BUT YES. YEAH. I, I KNOW. UM, I, I ENJOYED MYSELF WHILE I WAS OUT THERE. AS A MATTER OF FACT. I KNOW YOU DO, BUT MAYBE ED WILL WANT TO JOIN YOU IF HE HAS TIME. DID YOU GO INTO IT LAST TIME? NO. ME? YES. ED'S NEVER BEEN THERE. AND FRIDAY'S USUALLY OUT AS WELL. OH, WE HAVE LAND USES. I DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY. OKAY. WELL SEE THE AVAILABILITY OF OF YES. LESLIE HOOT. YEAH. WANNA LET US THROUGH. OKAY. UM, I THINK ONE MORE THING. IF THE NOLLS AND I AM GOING TO SAY, GOD FORBID AT THIS POINT, UM, IS ON THE, REALLY ON THE AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER 9TH, I WON'T EVEN APPEAR ON IT'S A BAD DAY FOR ME. I WILL NOT APPEAR, UM, EVEN ON ZOOM. SO IF WE NEED HUMAN BEINGS, SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE MY PLACE. IT YOU DON'T WANT ME THAT DAY, I PROMISE YOU. WHAT'S IT ON FOR ON THE NINTH BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD? PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUATION FOR WHO? FOR FOR WHAT? SITE PLAN AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL. OKAY. I I CAN'T ATTEND THAT NIGHT. IT'S MY ONE NIGHT OF TEACHING. I TEACH ONE NIGHT A WEEK. AND THEN, UM, SITE PLAN FOR BETHEL KNOWLES. IT'S ALSO BACK TO SCHOOL. MM-HMM . YES. AARON. IS IT SITE PLAN FOR BE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BETHEL KNOWLES, RIGHT? WE ARE. OKAY. WELL, CAN THEY GET, UH, SITE PLAN APPROVAL WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE VARIANCES IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTA BE DISCUSSED WITH GARRETT. OKAY. UM, USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN, WHEN THE VARIANCES ARE IN THE FOLD. SO GARRETT, I'M SURE HAS [01:05:01] A GA A GAME PLAN WITH RESPECT TO THAT. I KNOW THAT THE ZONING BOARD WOULD WANT TO SEE SEEKER COMPLETED. YEAH. THAT'S TYPICALLY THE CASE WITH A COORDINATED REVIEW. YEAH. ED, JUST MAKE A NOTE TO TOUCH BASE WITH GARRETT ON THAT. I MEAN, THE FACT THAT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT THE, THE FACT THAT THEY JUST PUT IN THIS APPEAL, WOULDN'T THAT PRECLUDE THEM BEING ABLE TO SHOW UP ON NINE NINE? IT'S A DIFFERENT BOARD PUT IN THE APPEAL. NO, THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORS. THE NEIGHBOR PUT IN AN APPEAL. RIGHT. BUT THAT APPEAL, SO DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER. APPEAL TO THE ZONING BOARD, NOT THE TOWN BOARD. OKAY. CORRECT. SO ED, YEAH, IF YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH GARRETT AND THEN MAYBE CIRCULATE AN EMAIL UPDATE FOR EVERYONE. IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND ON NINE, NINE AND MADELINE'S ABSENCE? I, I DON'T THINK WE ANSWERED THAT YET. NOW KEEP IN MIND IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A 50 50 AT THIS POINT. RIGHT? I GUESS WE'RE DOWN TO COR AND NONE OF YOU CAN MAKE IT. PARDON ME? WE'RE DOWN TO COR. IF NONE OF YOU CAN MAKE IT, YOU WON'T DO IT. YOU CAN'T. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA WRITE ARMINIA. POSSIBLY. POSSIBLY. IS THAT OKAY? IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT WASN'T THE NINTH. YEAH. WELL, I CAN'T MAKE THAT . DO YOU HAVE ED, WE HAVE NO OPTIONS TO MAKE SURE IT ISN'T THE NINTH. WELL, I'LL ASK IF, IF, IF THEY, IF GARRETT IS WILLING TO SCHEDULE IT TO KEEP IT ON THE SCHEDULE, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN DENIED A PERMIT BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT MM-HMM . THAT THEY NEED VARIANCES AND IS AN APPEAL FROM THE NEIGHBOR. OKAY. I CAN DO, I CAN DO ANY OTHER DAY. HUH? THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD OFFER IS IF THEY WERE STEADFAST IN MOVING FORWARD ON NINE NINE AND H AND LPB COULDN'T HAVE REPRESENTATION, YOU COULD ALWAYS PUT TOGETHER WRITTEN COMMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED, WHICH THEY NEVER READ YOU. WELL, YOU COULD ASK THAT. YOU COULD ASK THAT GARRETT. READ THEM INTO THE RECORD. AARON DID ANY, IS THERE ANY, DID ANYBODY EVER BRING UP ANYTHING ABOUT THE WATER CONTROL UP THERE? WATER, UH, FLOODING? YES. YES. YEAH. THEY'RE PUTTING IN A BIG BASE AND THEY'RE STILL STUDYING IT BECAUSE I KNOW THE NEIGHBOR IS CONCERNED ABOUT ADDITIONAL RUNOFF. YEAH. WELL THAT WHOLE AREA FROM, FROM THE KNOWLES DOWN TO HILLSIDE AVENUE FLOODED OUT. MM-HMM . RIGHT? THE LAST YEAH. I I THINK THE STATE WAS, GARRETT HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT BECAUSE THE STATE DID SOME WORK. IT'S, THEY DID A BIG GULLY. THE STATE DID A BIG GULLY, BUT THAT EVEN WASHED OUT AND I THINK IT WASHED OUT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO VIRGINIA ROAD. I THINK SO. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE UP MORE, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE UP A LOT MORE POROUS IF THEY PUT THAT BUILDING UP THERE. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM THERE THAT WE HAVE WITH PONCY. YEAH. AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH CHICK-FIL-A. AGREED. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING MORE TO BRING UP THAT THE LAST FLOOD, THE WATER WAS UP MY FRONT LAWN. OH LORD. THE LAST TIME WE HAD THAT HEAVY RAIN. MM-HMM . UP TO MY, THE MIDDLE OF MY LAWN ED. IS THERE ANYTHING MORE YOU WANNA BRING UP? DO YOU WANNA SCHEDULE A TIME WHERE WE CAN TRY TO PUT TOGETHER, UM, ADDITIONS TO OUR, I MEAN AMENDMENTS TO OUR 'CAUSE? WE WOULD PUT IN DECONSTRUCTION, WE'D PUT IN ALTERNATES. AND THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WROTE THAT I WANTED. MARSHALL TAX EXEMPTION. YES. TAX INCENTIVES. YES. THE, THE LONG DESIRED CARROT. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND MOTION TO, UM, THANK YOU, AARON. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU ALL. ADJOURN. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE. I'LL MOVE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? A CHAIR VOTES. AYE. WE'RE DONE. OKAY. DO. ALL RIGHT. GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE. GOOD. GOOD NIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.