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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ]
PROGRESS.WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.
TODAY IS, UM, AUGUST 18TH, AND, UM, WE ARE STARTING WITH OUR HERITAGE AND HARMONY, UH, COMMITTEE WORK.
MS. SHOOK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, RIGHT WHILE SHE COMES TO THE TABLE? I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS IS AVAILABLE ON ZOOM SINCE THIS IS A DUALLY NOTICED MEETING WHERE WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE AND TOWN HALL.
UM, THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL FOR GIVING THE APPROVAL TO FORM THIS, UH, COMMITTEE.
WE WE'RE, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR YOU TO PROPOSE THE CASE.
EVERYONE, YOUR NAME? SURE, SURE.
I HAVE BEEN A GREENBERG RESIDENT SINCE, UH, 2010.
WE LIVED IN, UH, TARRYTOWN, THEN WE MOVED TO DOBBS FERRY BEFORE MOVING TO, UH, ES SCARSDALE WITH LEY SCHOOLS.
SO, UM, SO YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE? NO, SHE LIVES IN UNINCORPORATED.
UH, SO, UH, I HAD, UM, PROPOSED THE IDEA OF FORMING HERITAGE AND HARMONY COMMITTEE FOR GREENBURG.
I WAS, UH, THE CO-CHAIR OF LEY MULTICULTURAL AND INCLUSION COMMITTEE.
I WAS IN THAT ROLE FOR, UH, CLOSE TO TWO YEARS.
BEFORE THAT, I WAS, UH, INVOLVED WITH, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, COMMUNITY INITIATIVES AS WELL.
SO, AS I SEE, UH, THE GREENBERG, IT, UH, COMPRISES, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIVERSE, UH, NOT IN JUST, UM, IN TERMS OF CULTURE, BUT IT ALSO, UH, LANGUAGE, THE BELIEFS.
AND, UM, IN TODAY'S TIME, IT IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE DID WITH THE, THE A MDI COMMITTEE TO A WIDER, UH, POPULATION.
SO WE DECIDED TO SUBMIT THE PROPOSAL FOR, UH, HERITAGE AND HARMONY COMMITTEE.
I CAN, UH, READ THE MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE CAME UP, AND AGAIN, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO THE COMMITTEE IS DEDICATED TO FOSTERING UNITY AND MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AMONG INDIVIDUALS OF DIVERSE ETHNIC, CULTURAL, RELIGIOUS, AND GENERATIONAL BACKGROUNDS.
THROUGH DIALOGUE, COLLABORATION, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE SEEK TO BUILD AN INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT HONORS DIVERSITY, PROMOTES EQUITY, AND STRENGTHENS OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THE FORMAT OF THE MEETING, UH, IS GOING TO BE, WE MEET, UH, ONCE A MONTH, BUT BEFORE WE, UH, DECIDE ON THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, LIKE OUR COMMITTEE, WE'LL SEND OUT THE INTEREST FORM, HAVE PEOPLE, UH, GIVE THEIR INTEREST TO JOIN THE COMMITTEE, IF THEY HAVE ANY PROJECTS IN MIND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO INCORPORATE.
BUT FROM OUR SIDE, BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID, UM, SOME PRE-WORK TO SEE WHO IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE INTERESTED TO BE FROM, TO BE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.
SO, COUPLE OF IDEAS, UH, THAT'S THERE IS, UH, TO HAVE A STORY CALLED MAYBE.
THEN WE CAN DO, UH, SOME, UH, LIKE, SAY, UM, THE LIGHTING CEREMONIES.
WE CAN DO CERTAIN, UH, COMMUNITY CONVERSA CONVERSATIONS.
UH, WE CAN ALSO, UH, CELEBRATE DIFFERENT, UH, LIKE CULINARY
SO IT GIVES THE PLATFORM FOR ALL THESE IDEAS TO COME TO FRUITION.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY.
SO, WHO ARE YOU TARGETING? ARE YOU TARGETING ALL OF GREENBURG OR ARE YOU JUST TARGETING THE OWN, THE UNINCORPORATED AREA? I AM TARGET TARGETING ALL OF, UH, GREENBURG, UH, INCLUDING, UH, UH, THE VILLAGES AS WELL.
SO EVEN THE VILLAGES, UH, MIGHT ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT IT DOES NOT HURT, UH, TO INCLUDE MM-HMM
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO, UH, DR.
REVEREND LANE COBB, AND BECAUSE SHE HAS A SIMILAR COMMITTEE AS WELL CALLED RESTORATIVE CIRCLES, TALKING, MAKING SURE WE GET THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
SOUNDS LIKE SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.
YOU MAY WANNA HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME SIMILAR COMMITTEES, AND THEN MAYBE THAT SOMETHING COULD BE BROUGHT TOGETHER, OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU JOIN.
BUT I KNOW WHEN YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE COURAGEOUS CONVERSATIONS,
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THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO ME AND JUST REM REMINDED ME OF HER.SO I WAS, UM, IN ATTENDANCE WHEN, UH, SHE WAS HONORED.
SO, UM, IT'S, UM, SO THERE CAN BE SOME OVERLAP, BUT THE HERITAGE AND HARMONY COMMITTEE'S MISSION IS, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, THAN, UH, THE OTHER COMMITTEE.
AND THE DETAILS, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO COMMITTEES MAYBE WHERE THERE WOULD BE OVERLAP, LIKE YOUR WHAT MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S THE, UM, RESTORATIVE CIRCLES MM-HMM
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE.
SO THERE'S, YOU ARE SORT OF IN, UH, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NICHE, AND YOU'RE GONNA EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S DIFFERENT.
SO OUR, UM, AND HAVING SAID THAT, SINCE EVERYTHING IS PART OF, UH, GREENBERG, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK, UH, COLLABORATIVELY TAKE THE KNOWLEDGE FROM THE OTHER COMMITTEE COMMITTEE IF THEY'RE IN EXISTENCE.
AND SOME, IF SOMETHING IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN GREENBERG, WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
UH, HOW HERITAGE AND HARMONY COMMITTEE IS, UH, DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S, UH, REALLY FOCUSED ON THE CULTURAL, WE WANT IT INTERGENERATIONAL.
AND WE ALSO WANT TO FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT'S OF, UM, LIKE, UH, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN GREENBURG BEFORE MM-HMM
SO THE, WHAT, THAT'S NOT BEEN DONE.
THE WHAT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN GREENBURG BEFORE.
THE CULTURE, CULTURAL, AND, YEAH.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE, WE ALSO WANT TO FOCUS ON THE EDUCATION IS SPREADING THE WORD.
SO IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN DONE IN ARDSLEY.
'CAUSE YOU WERE ON THE COMMITTEE.
SO ARE THERE OTHER VILLAGES THAT ARE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT LEY DID? UH, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
AND THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE I LIVE, UM, I AM PART OF GREENBERG.
BUT I WAS ALSO FORTUNATE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE ARTS LEAGUE COMMITTEE, AND WE ALWAYS WONDERED LIKE, WHY WE DON'T SEE PEOPLE FROM OTHER TOWN, THAT MANY PEOPLE FROM OTHER TOWN.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO SPREAD IT OUT TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
SO WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, THERE ACTUALLY IS IN DOPPS FAIR, THERE'S A, UM, HUMAN RIGHTS.
YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY A CULTURAL COMMITTEE? YES.
AND I, I ACTUALLY HAVE NOTICED THAT THAT LEY, WHAT WAS THAT? THAT ELLEN? I'M SORRY.
COUNCILMAN HABER WAS JUST SPEAKING.
I, I HAVE NOTICED THAT, 'CAUSE I LIVE IN DOBS FERRY.
THAT OFTEN, LEY HAS PROBABLY THE MOST CULTURAL CELEBRATIONS OF ALL OF THE VILLAGES.
SO IT'S BE NICE IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO MORE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHEN ALEY IS HAVING A SPECIFIC ETHNIC DAY, WHAT WOULD THE GREENBERG, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE COMPETITION.
SO, AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE ALL, UH, SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK AS A BIG, UH, PIE CHART WHERE WE ARE SEPARATE, BUT WE HAVE A OVERLAP.
IF SOMETHING IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN A VILLAGE, BE IT WITH THROUGH HUMAN RIGHTS, BE IT THROUGH, UH, A MDI OR ANY OTHER COMMITTEE, WE DON'T NEED TO WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS.
I WANT TO KEEP, LET'S JUST NOT CONFUSE PEOPLE.
LEY IS IN GREENBERG, RIGHT? CORRECT.
ALL THE VILLAGES ARE IN GREENBURG.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SOLAR AREA, INCORPORAT AREA, THE INCORPORATED, AND ALSO THE VILLAGES.
SO SUPPOSE OKAY, SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING GREENBURG, YOU MEAN THE ENTIRE TOWN IN GREENBERG, INCLUDING THE VILLAGES? CORRECT.
SO IF, UH, FOR DISCUSSION SAKE, IF, UM, EVENT IS HAPPENING, LIKE A CULTURAL CELEBRATION MM-HMM
UH, BE IT IN ARTLEY OR DOBBS FERRY, GREENBERG DOESN'T NEED TO CELEBRATE, UH, ANOTHER DIWALI EVENT, ANOTHER HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
SO, AND THAT'S WHY I, I VERY CAREFULLY, UH, PICKED OUR TWO PILOT PROJECTS THAT WE, IT'S, IT IS NOT HAPPENING ANYWHERE ELSE IN GREENBURG BEAT THE VILLAGE OR THE UNINCORPORATED PART.
AND BEFORE WE WORK ON THE SUPPLEMENTS.
THE SUPPLEMENTS, IT'S SUPPLEMENTS.
AND ALSO IT RE IT'S GOING TO REACH OUT TO MORE PEOPLE.
ALAN, AND IF I MAY YES, YES, PLEASE.
I ATTENDED MANY OF THE EVENTS IN ART SUITE, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE WONDERFUL CELEBRATIONS OF CULTURE, AND THEY'RE EDUCATIONAL.
AND THE THING THAT IS REALLY SPECIAL ABOUT IT IS THAT YOU ALSO ENGAGE THE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL.
SO THEY LEARN ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CULTURES.
AND I THINK SPREADING THAT TO THE REST OF THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG AND OTHER VILLAGES AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, IS A WONDERFUL IDEA.
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UH, THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS.UM, ALAN, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA ALSO.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT, UH, EVERYBODY WILL SUPPORT THIS AND WE COULD WORK, UH, TOGETHER TO IMPLEMENT YOUR INITIATIVES.
THE ANOTHER, UM, THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, WHEN COMMITTEE IS GOING TO, UH, PROPOSE A PROJECT, UH, THERE WILL BE A LIAISON FROM THE, UH, BOARD, UH, AS WELL, FROM THE, SO, UM, IT'LL NOT BE LIKE A 1% DECISION.
WE ALL WILL BE COLLECTIVELY INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION.
BUT THE TWO PILOT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IS A GREENBERG STORY QUILT.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, HERE MANY TIMES, WE, WE LOOKED AT THE, AND IT'S SO EXCITING TO DO THAT.
THEN WE CAN HAVE, UH, JUST LIKE WE HAVE CHRISTMAS, UH, TREE LIGHTING MENORAH, WE CAN DO, UH, THE W UH, LIGHTING CEREMONY.
AND ONCE WE REACH OUT TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL HAVE A INTEREST FORM, AND THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH THE ANOTHER, UH, PROJECTS AS WELL.
WELL, THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE INITIATIVE.
UM, BRING, YOU'RE ALSO TALKING MONEY, RIGHT? YOU NEED MONEY.
AND HOW MUCH, AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THAT COULD COME FROM? SO, UM, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET, UH, COMES, WHAT WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING, IT CAN BE DONE, UH, FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE WAYS.
AND I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, YOUR BUDGET IS DONE.
WE MAY NOT HAVE MONEY FOR THIS, BUT E WE ARE GOING, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR ONE GRANT, WHICH I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM.
EVEN, EVEN IF I GET, UM, NOMINAL SUPPORT, IT'S FINE.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO QUOTE A PRICE TO IT.
AND THEN, UH, I HAVE A SUGGESTION IF WE ARE, UM, OKAY TO TAKE, UH, THE DONATIONS, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR CUT, DOS AND DON'TS FOR THE DONATIONS.
SO I WROTE DOWN, UM, SOME GUIDELINES.
UH, THE, BOTH THE EVENTS THAT I'M PROPOSING, IT CAN BE DONE UNDER, UM, LIKE, SAY MAYBE 2000, $3,000.
SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THERE'D BE DONATIONS RAISED TO COME UP WITH THE TWO OR 3000 BUCKS UNTIL, UNTIL THE TOWN OF GREENBERG CAN ALLOCATE THE MONEY TO THIS COMMITTEE? I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IN THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON OR WHEN, UH, YOU CAN COLLECTIVELY DECIDE IF, UH, EVEN IF, UH, $3,000 CAN BE ALLOCATED TO THIS COMMITTEE.
UNTIL THAT TIME, IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE DONATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, ESPECIALLY THE BUSINESSES, UH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UM, EXPLORE THAT AVENUE.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO FOR THIS NOMINAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, DELAY THE PROCESS.
UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH LEY WAS, UH, CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMITTEE? YES.
SO WHEN I WAS THE CO-CHAIR OF, UH, THE A MDI COMMITTEE, THE VILLAGE HAD SET ASIDE $3,000.
AND I CAN FACT CHECK, BUT WHAT I REMEMBER, AND THEN WE HAD, UH, GRANT MONEY THROUGH CARVAL FOUNDATION, UH, ARTS WESTCHESTER.
AND THEN WE WERE ALSO DOING A MAJORITY OF THE EVENTS FUNDED, UH, THROUGH DONATIONS.
BUT THE DONATION WAS ALWAYS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE CHECK WAS DRAWN TO VILLAGE OF LEY, AND THEN THERE WAS A PROPER PROCESS TO THAT.
UM, YOU HAVE, AT THE EVENTS THAT I'VE ATTENDED, MOSTLY AT PESCO PARK MM-HMM
OR THE SCHOOL, UM, YOU HAVE ALL SORTS OF VENDORS.
DO THE VENDORS CONTRIBUTE ANY PORTION OF THEIR PROFIT TO THE, TO THE, UM, FUNDING AT ALL? SO, UM, NO.
BUT HOW WE CONTROLLED, UH, THE, UH, VENDOR INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE, UH, THE WHOLE GOAL OF, UH, DOING ANY COMMUNITY EVENT TO SPREAD THE EDUCATION, BUT SINCE THE VENDOR WERE THERE, UH, AND FOOD VENDOR, BECAUSE IT'S A NECESSITY MM-HMM
UH, WE WANTED THEM TO MAKE SOME MONEY AS WELL.
SO VILLAGE HAS A, A FORM, SO THEY NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANT WITH THE VILLAGE OF LEY.
SO, AND THERE WAS A NOMINAL FEE FOR THEM TO DO IT.
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THE SECOND PART, WE NEVER GOT INVOLVED WITH THE KEEPING THE FOOD FREE.
SO FOOD USUALLY USED TO BE FOR, UH, PURCHASE MM-HMM
BUT WE CONTROLLED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT VENDORS WERE CHARGING, UH, FOR THE FOOD.
SO IT, EVERYTHING WAS DISCUSSED AHEAD OF TIME TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, SIMPLE.
WE USED TO HAVE LIKE, SAY TWO OR, UH, THREE FOOD VENDORS.
SO THERE ARE CHOICES, BUT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF COMPETITION.
SO WE NEVER ASKED VENDOR TO GIVE US MONEY.
BUT FOR SOME, LIKE REAL REALTORS, THEY, UH, DONATED MONEY.
CERTAIN RESTAURANTS THAT WE WORKED WITH, LIKE SAY RASA, THEY WERE VERY, UH, GENEROUS TO SAY THAT, OKAY, WE WILL KEEP, UH, THE, UH, WELCOME DRINK, WHICH IS LIKE SOME HOT BEVERAGE AS COMPLIMENTARY.
THAT'S THE MOST EXTENT THAT THEY WENT.
SO IF YOU ARE A COMMITTEE, UH, THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE TOWN, THEN YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR ETHICS RULE.
AND YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN YOU'RE DOING DONATIONS, PARTICULARLY FROM BUSINESSES THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING APPLICATIONS BEFORE THE TOWN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE COULD WORK OUT ALL THOSE DETAILS AS IT AS THE TIME MAY BE.
AND, UH, IF YOU MAY GIVE ME A MINUTE, I CAN, UH, READ WHAT I WROTE FOR, UH, EVENT DONATIONS POLICY, BECAUSE I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, IT, IF WE DON'T DO THIS PROPERLY, THE DONATIONS, IT CAN LEAD TO SOME PROBLEMS AS WELL.
UH, SO THE TOWN ITSELF MAY NOT SOLICIT MONETARY OR IN KIND GIFTS FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGNS, OR INCLUDE DONATION REQUESTS ON PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS FOR TOWN SPONSORED EVENTS THAT SAID DONATIONS TIED TO A SPECIFIC EVENT PROVIDED THE EVENT SERVES A ALLEGED MET PUBLIC PURPOSE.
MONETARY DONATIONS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED AS A CHECK PAYABLE TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
NOTED FOR USE TOWARD THAT SPECIFIC EVENTS, FUNDS ARE HELD IN THE TOWN'S, UH, UH, UH, ACCOUNT AND APPLIED TO APPROVED EVENT EXPENSES.
THE TOWN DOES NOT DETERMINE OR GUARANTEE TAX DE DEDUCTIBILITY.
SECOND POINT DONOR RECOGNITION ON FLYERS, BANNERS, OR SIGNAGE.
IT'S OKAY TO ALLOW, BUT MUST FOLLOW.
STRICT FORMATTING NAMES SHOULD ALWAYS APPEAR BEFORE THE EVENT TITLE, NEVER, UH, ABOVE IT, AND NEVER FRAMED AS DONOR PRESENCE.
DONOR TABLES ARE PERMITTED FOR PROMOTIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.
NO SALES OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES.
THE TOWN BEARS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY COSTS.
THE DONOR INCURS BY PARTICIPATING PROPORTIONALITY MATTERS.
THE LEVEL OF RECOGNITION SHOULD REASONABLY CORRESPOND TO THE DONATION AMOUNT.
AND THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED CONSISTENTLY ACROSS DONORS.
NURSE RAFFLES ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT, UH, ONLY ONE EXCEPTION WHEN RUN BY SCHOOL GROUPS OR, UH, THE SCOUT, UH, GROUPS WHEN THEY'RE, UH, SELLING THE COOKIES OR SOMETHING, UH, AT AN EVENT.
SCHOOL GROUPS MAY ALSO COLLECT CANNED GOODS, CLOTHING, OR OTHER ITEMS FOR DONATION TO LOCAL CHARITIES.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE GUARDRAILS THAT, UH, I PUT TOGETHER.
AND I WOULD LIKE, UH, YOUR INPUT ON THIS SO THAT IT CAN BE REALLY, UH, IT'S STREAMLINED FOR THE FIRST TWO EVENTS THAT, UH, I AM PROPOSING.
WE DO NOT NEED A HUGE DONATIONS, OR WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT WORKING WITH MANY VENDORS AS WELL.
SO HOW MANY, ALL THAT HAS TO GO TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE ON THE COMMITTEE? SO,
I WILL SAY, UM, I WOULD, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I WILL HAVE, UH, CO-CHAIRS, UH, MAYBE UP TO LIKE, SAY SIX TO EIGHT CO-CHAIRS BECAUSE, UH, HOW I'M ENVISIONING THE SCOPE IS, UH, GOING TO EVOLVE WITH TIME.
BUT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THEY, THERE CAN BE ANY NUMBER OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE MEETING FORMAT IS GOING TO BE HYBRID.
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THE LOCATION CAN BE AT, UH, GREENBERG TOWN HALL OR, UH, THE LIBRARY.SO WHOEVER IS INTERESTED, ABSOLUTELY, NO QUESTION.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IF YOU'RE AN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE THOUGH, YOU HAVE TO WORK BY QUORUM MM-HMM
SO IT'S NICE TO SAY EVERYBODY COULD BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP YOU SURE.
SO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND SECONDLY, YOU LIKELY, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ODD NUMBER OF PEOPLE JUST TO BREAK A TIDE.
SO, UH, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON THEN, THE CLARITY I WANTED TO KNOW IS, YOU SAID THAT YOU SIX DAY CO-CHAIR, SO, SO LET'S JUST SAY YOU PICK A ODD NUMBER.
ARE THOSE CO-CHAIRS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A CERTAIN EVENT? CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT THE, IS THAT WHY YOU HAVE SO MANY CO-CHAIRS? 'CAUSE TYPICALLY IT'S JUST ONE OR ONE OR TWO CO-CHAIRS.
SO, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME, UH, CLARITY TO YOUR QUESTIONS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO THINGS HERE.
OUR CORE COMMITTEE, HERITAGE AND HARMONY COMMITTEE, THAT'S OUR STANDING COMMITTEE THAT'S DECIDING MM-HMM
WE HAVE TWO CO-CHAIRS FOR THAT.
WE HAVE A SPECIFIC COMMITTEE MEMBERS UP TO, UH, 12.
THEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE EVENTS, UH, THE IDEAS, THE PROPOSED PROJECTS.
SO LIKE FOR GREENBERG STORE, EQUAL PROJECT FOR THAT ONE, WE HAVE TWO SPECIFIC CO-CHAIRS.
I WILL NOT BE CO-CHAIR FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL EVENT.
SO THOSE TWO COACHES, SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? WELL, I HAVE MORE QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE LINED UP ALREADY? THEY, UH, FOR THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS, I HAVE EVERYTHING PLANNED, PEOPLE LINED UP, AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SHARE THE PROPOSAL.
AND HOW LONG WOULD THIS QUILT TAKE TO, TO BE DONE? YOU HAVE TO START, ONCE YOU AUTHORIZE, HOW MANY, MANY MONTHS WOULD IT TAKE? SO, UH, WE, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, UH, UM, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT IT SHOULD TAKE MORE THAN, UM, EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS.
SO WE START SPREADING THE WORD IN, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, ONCE THE COMMITTEE IS FORMED.
AND THEN WE SHARE THE INTEREST FOR, UH, GREENBERG HISTORICAL QUILT, AND WE START WORKING ON IT EARLY NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN BY SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, WE SHOULD DO THE UNVEILING OF THE QUILT.
IS IT TO COINCIDE WITH ANY PARTICULAR HOLIDAY OR MONTH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHEN YOU DO THE UNVEILING OF THE QUILT? SO WE WILL HAVE TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL AND CONSCIOUS LOOK AT ALL THE
AND FOR THE WALLY, THE LIGHTING, IT'S A ONE TIME, ONE OFF EVENT.
SO FOR BOTH THESE EVENTS, WE HAVE THE DETAILS PLANNED AND MAYBE, UH, UM, ONCE A QUOTE IS, UM, DONE, IF WE'RE FOCUSING ON UNITY AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY, MAYBE WE COULD PUT IT ON SAY A WALL IN THIS ROOM.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
I THINK SO WE HAVE TO, WHEN WOULD WE GET BACK? WELL, DO WE HAVE THE PROPOSAL IN WRITING? UM, I DID SUBMIT THE PROPOSAL, BUT BASED ON, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT I RECEIVED TODAY, I CAN UPDATE AND SUBMIT IT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO REQUEST.
AND THEN THE BOARD, IF, UH, AGREEABLE PUTS ON A RESOLUTION TO OFFICIALLY CREATE THE COMMITTEE AND SET THE GUIDELINES, COULD WE DO IT AT THE SEPTEMBER, THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER? SO THIS WAY WE GIVE OURSELVES LIKE A DEADLINE.
GOT ENOUGH BOARD THAT'S UP TO US GETTING A PROPOSAL THAT WE UNDERSTAND.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S, UH, SUPPORT.
AND I WILL SUBMIT, UH, THE PROPOSAL WITH THE SOME CHANGES AND CAN'T WAIT, UH, TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
IF EVERYBODY'S A CO-CHAIR, WHO DO WE COMMUNICATE? WHO DOES ANYONE COMMUNICATE IN ORDER FOR THAT PERSON TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE? THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE A CHAIR AND THEN MAYBE VICE-CHAIRS A NUMBER OF VICE-CHAIRS OR COACH TWO CO-CHAIRS.
SO THE WAY I, UM, AND IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I DID NOT GO INTO THE DETAILS LIKE HOW IT'LL WORK.
WE WILL HAVE A, A PROPER EMAIL FIRST FOR THIS COMMITTEE, HERITAGE AND HARMONY COMMITTEE.
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EMAIL WILL BE WITH ME BECAUSE I AM THE CHAIR AND THERE WILL BE A VICE, UH, CHAIR.UH, I LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FEW PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT ROLE.
UH, SANYA SAMAD, WHO YOU ALL HAVE MET, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE.
SO WE WILL, UH, FINALIZE THE NAME OF THAT PERSON.
THEN WE HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
BUT THE ACCESS OF THE EMAIL, IT STAYS WITH THE CHAIR AND CO-CHAIR.
ANY COMMUNICATION THAT WILL HAPPEN WILL HAPPEN THROUGH US.
AND WE WILL HAVE A LIAISON FROM THE BOARD AS WELL, SO THAT WE ARE STREAMLINING, UH, OUR COMMUNICATION WHEN WE DO OUR MEETINGS AHEAD OF THE MEETING.
THE AGENDA WILL BE DISTRIBUTED AFTER THE MEETING.
MEETING NOTES WILL BE, UH, DISTRIBUTED.
SO DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? SURE.
AND EVEN, SO WHAT WE CAN SAY SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS.
SO NEXT, UM, UH, THE A SC, THE SUMMER GEO SERIES.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE, SO, UH, LAST, I GUESS LAST, LAST THURSDAY, UH, WE WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE OUR LAST CONCERT.
UM, AND DUE TO SOME FUNDING CONSTRAINTS, WE COULDN'T FULFILL THAT.
BUT WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL HAVE, I'VE ASKED THE PRODUCERS TO COME AND SPEAK TO US, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO GOING FORWARD.
SO I HAVE, I HAVE, UH, ELISA CARTER, WHO IS PRESENT ALSO ALONG WITH RUSSELL JOHNSON, WHO WAS PART OF THE PRODUCER'S A SC, UH, ARTISTICALLY SERVING COMMUNITIES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, TERRANCE JUST HAS TO GOOD EVENING.
HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME.
UM, YES, I'M JOINED WITH, UM, ONE OF MY A SC PARTNERS, UM, RUSSELL JOHNSON.
AND, UM, WE DO HAVE A PREPARED PROPOSAL IN WRITING THAT WE WILL SUBMIT TO THE COUNCIL VIA TOWN CLERK AND TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, OUR PROPOSAL TO RESCHEDULE THE SUMMER JAZZ CONCERT SERIES FINALE.
UM, JUST WANNA READ LOOSELY FROM WHAT WE DO HAVE PREPARED, UM, PURSUANT TO OUR SEC SECTION, UM, 11.3 OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS DATED DECEMBER 11TH, 2025, BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND JOBAL MEDIA DOING BUSINESS AS, UM, UH, A SC ARTISTICALLY, UM, SERVING COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PATH IS TO PROPOSE A PATH FORWARD FOR CLOSING OUT THIS YEAR'S SUMMER JAZZ CONCERT SERIES ON A HIGH NOTE, AND TO CONTINUE BUILDING A STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN AND THE SEASONS AHEAD.
UM, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING FIVE TIME GRAMMY AWARD WINNER, LAYLA HATHAWAY, 10 TIME GRAMMY WINNERS TAKE SIX AND GRAMMY WINNERS, THE LOUD, THE LATE ROY HARWELL.
AND THESE NAMES MAY NOT NECESSARILY RESONATE WITH ALL OF YOU, BUT IF YOU LIKE GRATEFUL DEAD AND, UH, RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS OR, YOU KNOW, UH, AV LEVINE, THESE ARE THE EQUIVALENT, UM, FOR THE GENRES THAT THEY'RE IN.
UM, WE'VE HAD GRAMMY NOMINEES THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GRACE OUR STAGES, MAY EK AND KENDRICK THE FAMILY SOUL, AND WALTER BEASLEY WHO'VE ALL DRAWN A CONSIDERABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING.
AND FOR US AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS IN THE INDUSTRY, TO BE ABLE TO BOOK WORLD CLASS MUSICIANS TO COME INTO OUR BACKYARDS IS REALLY QUITE A FEAT, LET ALONE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, OR FUNDING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SECURE THEM.
SO THOSE PERFORMANCES NATURALLY TAKE PLACE WITH A CONSIDERABLE FINANCIAL INVESTMENT, UM, THAT A SC, UM, HAS ASSUMED IN YEARS PAST.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US BEING RAISED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THIS DEFINITELY MEANS SOMETHING TO US.
SO WHEN WE WERE APPROACHED BY, UH, COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON TO RETURN, UM, AND BRING THAT QUALITY OF, OF PERFORMANCE, UM, AS YOU ALL WERE IN THE MIDST OF PLANNING, WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, UH, LAUNCH THIS SERIES WITH A BLUES REVIVAL FEATURING A GRAMMY, UH, WINNING PEDAL STEEL GUITARIST.
ROBERT RANDOLPH, WHO IS, AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE A FAN, HE IS ROLLING STONES, UH, 100 GRADED GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME.
AND SO WITH MR. RANDOLPH AS A SEVEN TIME GRAMMY NOMINEE, TWO TIME EMMY AWARD WINNER, AND HE'S NOT THE, UH, GRAMMY WINNER FROM 10 YEARS AGO.
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GRAMMY WINNER FOR THE BEST CONTEMPORARY BLUES ALBUM FOR PREACHER'S KID.THAT THAT'S A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE SECURE, UM, IN OUR PARTS AND IN OUR COMMUNITY TO PERFORM, BECAUSE THAT PERFORMANCE ALONE REPRESENTS A LEVEL OF TALENT WHOSE MARKET VALUE WOULD EXCEED, EXCEED THE ENTIRE, UH, SERIES BUDGET.
UM, WHERE THE MARKET VALUE OF PERFORMANCES ON THIS 2026, IT EXCEEDS $75,000.
UM, FROM 2015 TO 2019, THE PERFORMANCES THAT WE BROUGHT IN EXCEED $450,000 WORTH OF MARKET VALUE PERFORMANCES.
AND THIS DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE BACK LINE AND TRAVEL EXPENSES.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CANCELLATIONS IN THE FIRST CANCELLATION, UM, WAS JULY 16TH, UM, THE DATE OF THAT EVENT, UM, THE, THE TOWN CANCELED THE EVENING'S PERFORMANCE SCHEDULED DUE TO POOR AIR QUALITY CONDITIONS RESULTING FROM THE CANADIAN WILDFIRE SMOKE.
UM, THERE WASN'T AN ALTERNATIVE DATE PROVIDED, AND THERE WASN'T ANY SORT OF CONTINGENCY PLAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T CANCEL WITH PEOPLE OR CANCEL WITH, UH, BACK LINE OR SOUND LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE OTHER PERFORMANCES ACTUALLY DID TAKE PLACE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE THE BEST, UM, UH, DETERMINATION AND FOR THE HEALTH OF THE, THE TOWN AND THOSE, UM, VIEWING THE SHOW.
SO NOW WE'RE STANDING THE CANCELLATION, WE HAD ALREADY INCURRED A SC HAD ALREADY INCURRED COSTS FOR THAT AND PREPARING FOR THE PERFORMANCE FROM OUR TIME TO LIGHTING TO SOUND TO, I MEAN, NOT LIGHTING, BUT SOUND AND ANYTHING, ANY EQUIPMENT AND THINGS ORDERED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT DAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO WAS TAKE IT ON OUR OWN.
WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE JUSTIN, UH, ROXY QUARTET, WHO WAS SCHEDULED FOR THAT, UH, SECOND WEEK, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO COME AND THAT, THAT FEATURED RASHAN CRUZ, AND THEY CAME AND MADE UP FOR THAT PERFORMANCE, UM, AUGUST 6TH.
THAT WAS, WE WERE LUCKY IN THAT BEING ABLE TO GET THEM, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE SUMMER SERIES, THEY'RE ALREADY BOOKED.
AND WE ARE ALWAYS BEHIND WHEN IT COMES TO JUST BOOKING THE YEAR OF THESE SORT OF THINGS TAKE A YEAR'S WORTH OF TIME TO PLAN.
AND LIKE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE DOING SERIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY'RE ALREADY PLANNING.
SO, UM, SO HE CAME BACK AND HE DID A SUCCESSFUL PERFORMANCE THAT WAS OUTSTANDING.
UM, THE SERIES CLOSING PERFORMANCE WAS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 13TH, AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, UN UNBEKNOWNST TO US THAT WAS CANCELED AFTER WE WERE INFORMED ON THE EVENING OF WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12TH, YOU KNOW, AROUND SIX TO 7:00 PM THAT THE CONTROLLER, KIMBERLY, UH, GUTMAN, I THINK THAT'S HER NAME, THAT SHE HAD DETERMINED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS $4,000 DONATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DALE KIWANIS CLUB THAT HAD BEEN DESIGNATED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE SERIES, THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT GO, THAT FUNDING WOULD BE WITHHELD WHEN WE WERE FIRST NOTIFIED THAT FUNDING, WE HAD GONE OUT OF OUR WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DALE KIWANIS WAS COMPLETELY, UM, IN, INVOLVED IN THE, THE PROMOTION AND THAT THEIR, THEIR INFORMATION AND LOGO WAS PROMOTED, THEIR BANNER WAS UP.
AND SO THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ASSUMED THAT THIS WASN'T A PART OF SERIES, AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A PART OF OUR SCHEDULING THIS FINALE THAT WE HAD PUT TOGETHER.
SO ALTHOUGH, UM, UNDER THE AGREEMENT WE ARE ENTITLED TO, UM, A 30% OF THE COMMISSION, UH, DONATION, WE WERE PUTTING THAT BACK IN TO COVER COSTS AS WELL AS WHAT WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE SERIES IS TAKE REINVESTING THE 30% PRODUCT PRODUCTION FEE THAT WE GET UNDER EXHIBIT A FOR BACK, BACK INTO THE SHOW.
SO WE HAVEN'T MADE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE BACK IN INVESTING IN SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T PLAN TO INVEST IN AT THIS LEVEL.
SO RATHER THAN LET THE FINALE CANCELLATION BE THE FINAL WORD ON AN WHAT WE SEE AS AN OTHERWISE SUCCESSFUL REMONT SEASON SEASON, UM, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO PROPOSE WORKING WITH THE TOWN TO RESCHEDULE THE AUGUST 13TH PERFORMANCE TO A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE DATE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN BRING THE SERIES TO A PROPER CLOSE.
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UM, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT WAY TO CONCLUDE THE SEASON AND TO SET THE FOUNDATION FOR A STRONG CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP, PARTNERSHIP IN YEARS AHEAD, YOU KNOW, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, FINALIZE THIS AND THEN PUT THIS TO REST SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TALKING ABOUT 2027 WITH A REASONABLE CALENDAR DATE.SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE TERM OF AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY RUNS UNTIL AUGUST 13TH, WE WOULD WANT TO FORMALIZE A NEW FI FINALE DATE, UM, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A BRIEF WRITTEN AMENDMENT, UM, UNDER SECTION 11.1 OF OUR AGREEMENT.
UM, AND SO IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK OUT THE PAPERWORK TO JUST HELP MOVE ALONG IF NECESSARY.
AND WE WOULD ALSO WELCOME THE ACCOUNTS CONFIRMATION OF WHETHER THE PREVIOUSLY DESIGNATED $4,000, ABOUT $4,000 DONATION WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THIS RESCHEDULED FINALE.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS AS IT STANDS, WE, YOU KNOW, VALUE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CLOSING OUT THIS YEAR'S SERIES AND TO HAVING MORE SUCCESSFUL SUMMER JAZZ SERIES AHEAD.
AND SO AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN DISCUSS POTENTIAL DATES.
YEAH, I THINK THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I, I'VE ATTENDED ALL THE CONCERTS AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE LIKE AMAZING.
I THOUGHT THE QUALITY, UH, I GO TO GS AT LINCOLN CENTER WITH MY WIFE, AND I THOUGHT THAT THE PERFORMANCES AT LEAST EXCEEDED, UM, THE QUALITY OF ANY GS CONCERTS I'VE EVER ATTENDED.
SO I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY IS REALLY GREAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY YOU KNOW ISSUE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD WAS I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB PUBLICIZING IT, AND IF WE HAVE LIKE A, UM, A, A GRAND FINAL, UM, AND WE HAVE SOME EXTRA TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAYBE ORDER LAWN SIGNS AND PUT THEM ALL OVER THE AREA AND, YOU KNOW, USE DIGITAL, UM, EXPERTISE TO TRY, UM, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING MORE PEOPLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE GETTING A THOUSAND PEOPLE RATHER THAN A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, 50 PEOPLE AT THESE CONCERTS.
UM, AND I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S LIKE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, TO CLOSE OUT SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SERIES MAYBE TOWARDS THE END OF SEPTEMBER OR EARLY, UH, EARLY OCTOBER.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN WAIT UNTIL NEXT, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR.
WELL, MAYBE SOME OF US HAVE ALSO QUESTIONS.
BUT I'M JUST ASKING THIS IS, WELL, WHAT IS THAT NOISE? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE TIMING, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
AND SOMETIMES STARTING SOMETHING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, COULD BE REALLY FANTASTIC.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I JUST WANNA, OKAY.
I WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE QUALITY OF THE MUSIC.
SO, UM, YEAH, CERTAINLY NO, NO ISSUES THERE.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE SOME ISSUES ABOUT HOW, UH, THIS ALL CAME ABOUT.
UM, SO WHEN THE, THE WILDFIRE HAPPENED AND WE WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE'S HEALTH, I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE WOULD HANDLE THAT.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT A NEW DATE WAS PROPOSED FOR AUGUST 20TH TO MAKE UP FOR THIS WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE COMMISSIONER THAT HE HAD SPOKEN WITH.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, WITH A SC OR THE ARTIST OR WHOEVER IT WAS.
UM, AND THAT THE ARTIST ACTUALLY DID NOT WANNA PERFORM THAT NIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HIS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE AIR QUALITY FOR HIM AS WELL.
SO THAT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS ALL, 'CAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT JUST CANCELING IT, YOU KNOW, POSTPONING IT WITHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE RESCHEDULED BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT.
SO I, I'M, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE DISCONNECT OF INFORMATION AND HOW THAT HAPPENED.
I MEAN, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT ON THAT? RUSSELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, SO, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UH, WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ANY KIND OF RESCHEDULED DATE.
IN FACT, WE, WE ACTUALLY, WE CONTACTED THE, THE ARTISTS AND THE, THE SOUND PEOPLE.
THE ARTIST WASN'T AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE, THE WILDFIRES.
SO THAT WASN'T A CONCERN OF HIS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU GOT THAT FROM, BUT YOU'RE HEARING IT FROM THE, FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH.
I'M THE PERSON THAT, THAT'S BEEN DEALING DIRECTLY WITH THE ARTISTS AND DEALING WITH THE, WITH, UM, WITH ALL THE PRODUCTION STAFF.
THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T AWARE.
WE COMMUNICATED WITH, WITH COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON AND WITH, WITH, UH, WITH TERRENCE JACKSON.
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TER YES.THE CONVERSATION WITH TERRANCE, THERE WAS A HUGE CONCERN THAT TERRENCE HAD, AND HE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A LIABILITY MM-HMM
AND THAT WAS HOW THE DECISION WAS ULTIMATELY MADE BASED ON THE LIABILITY FOR FOLKS THAT MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS. RIGHT.
AND WE WERE TOLD TO, TO CANCEL THE SHOW, WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TO, BECAUSE WE, BECAUSE THE SHOWS WERE THEMES, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR THEMES THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF GET ACROSS TO KIND OF STAY IN THE TRADITION OF JAZZ.
WE, WE SPOKE TO THE ARTISTS AND WE ASKED ABOUT HIS AVAILABILITY ON AUGUST 6TH, BECAUSE WE LEFT TWO DATES AT THE END OF THE SERIES, UN UNBOOKED, BECAUSE WE WERE HOPING TO GET A LARGE DONATION AND BE ABLE TO BOOK, YOU KNOW, SOME WORLD CLASS ARTISTS ON THOSE DATES.
SO AUGUST 6TH WAS STILL AVAILABLE MM-HMM
AND WE PUSHED THEM INTO AUGUST 6TH.
THE OTHER THING I SHOULD SAY IS THAT, SO THEY WENT INTO THE AUGUST 6TH FLOOR ABLE TO, ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT, BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF THE, THE PERIOD OF THE CONTRACT MM-HMM
IT WOULD REQUIRE A RESOLUTION FOR US TO RESCHEDULE IT ANYWAY.
IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SOMETHING MM-HMM
IT WOULD'VE HAD TO COME FROM YOU GUYS OH, OKAY.
JOE, DO YOU KNOW WHY, UH, THE 4,000 WAS, WAS HELD? YES.
BECAUSE ARE ARE WE TALKING THAT'S A CONTRACT? I, I, I'VE ALREADY STATED THIS AND I'VE ALREADY SAID THIS TO, UH, RUSSELL AND ALITA.
I, I JUST, I DON'T THINK IT COMPLIES WITH THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE THAT STATES THAT 30% OF THE DONATIONS GATHERED BY THE PRODUCER IS GIVEN TO THE PRODUCER.
AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS, THAT THIS DONATION SPECIFICALLY STATED YOUR NAME.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAME TO BE EXACTLY, BUT WE DIDN'T, I, I DON'T WANT ALL ALL OF THIS TO BE PUT ON KIMBERLY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
IT WAS ALSO MY LEGAL INTERPRETATION, UM, THAT THE, THAT THE, THAT THEY WOULD GET 30 DIDN MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE CONTRACT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND, PAUL, THAT IT WOULD BE, IF THEY HAD SOLICITED GRANTS OR DONATIONS, THEY WOULD GET 30% OF THAT.
BUT IF YOU HAD SOLICITED THAT, THEN THAT WOULD NOT APPLY.
THAT'S, IT'S, THAT'S WHAT CONTRACT, THAT'S NOT ANY, ANY, SO WE HAVE THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT.
TO, TO SOLICIT DONATIONS AND, AND SPONSORSHIPS.
SO ANYTHING THAT CAME IN, WE WOULD GET, REGARDLESS OF WHO IT CAME THROUGH, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE ENTITLED TO 30% OF THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT ANY DONATION THAT'S, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT READS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE, OF THE CONCERT SERIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING IS, IT FELT LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE BECAUSE LISTEN, WE, WE HAVEN'T MADE A DIME IN YEARS PAST.
AND IN FACT, THE, THE NUMBERS THAT, THAT MS. CARTER POINTED YOU, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN WE BOUGHT TAKE SIX, WHEN WE BOUGHT LELE HATHAWAY, WE PAID FOR THAT.
YOU GUYS DIDN'T PAID DOWN FOR ANY OF THOSE ARTISTS IN PAST YEARS.
AND THE, AND THE, AND THE WHY IS BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT IF WE BOUGHT MORE WORLD CLASS TALENT TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THAT WE WOULD EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET SPONSORS TO COME IN AND SUPPORT THE WHOLE EVENT.
AND, AND THE CONCERTS WERE REALLY, THEY WERE EXTRAORDINARY.
YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF THE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY COULD QUESTION THE QUALITY OF THE MUSICIANS.
UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE, WE'RE NOT QUESTIONING THAT.
NO, I'M SAYING, SO YOU, YOU REALLY DID FROM IN, IN, IN TERMS OF GIVING US VALUE FOR EACH CONCERT.
THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT WE GOT BASICALLY, UM, A DISCOUNT AND WE GOT MORE THAN, UH, IT WOULD NORMALLY COST LIKE ANY OTHER, YOU, I MEAN, MY NIECE WORKS FOR THE NEW YORK CITY BALLET, MY SISTER'S IN, IN MUSIC MANAGEMENT, SO I KNOW, I KNOW THE COURSE.
SO, AND I KNOW THE QUALITY THAT YOU GOT.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY, YOU KNOW, MY FAILING IS AT THE KIWANIS CLUB, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER THE KIWANIS CLUB DID GET THE DONATION, GAVE THE DONATION, YOU PUT UP THEIR BANNERS AT THE, UH, AT THE PAVILION.
SO MY, MY FAILING IS GOING FORWARD, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP, UH, THAT WE HAVE, CONTINUE THE SUMMER, UH, GS CONCERT SERIES FOR NEXT YEAR.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON, UM, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT A WAY OF, UH, PUBLICIZING IT BETTER SO WE COULD GET A BETTER, YOU KNOW, KNOW, GET, YOU KNOW, A A YEAH, A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT AT AT ALL THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCERTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WORK TOGETHER IF WE COULD DO THE GRAND FINAL AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A REALLY BIG SUCCESS THAT THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD EVEN DO IT SOMETIME THIS YEAR, THEN IT WILL ENABLE ME AND OTHERS TO REACH OUT TO PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WANT YOU TO SHOW UP AT THIS EVENT, THE GRAND FENNELL, AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF MUSIC THAT YOU
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COULD EXPECT.THIS IS WHY WE ARE DESERVING OF A LARGER, UM, LARGER FOUNDATION, UH, DONATIONS.
SO I'D LIKE THE GRAND FINALE TO BE USED AS SORT OF OKAY.
UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME THEN TO, UH, INVITE POTENTIAL FUNDERS TO SHOW UP AND MAYBE WE COULD GET A LARGE DONATION FROM A PRIVATE FOUNDATION.
ONE THING WE SHOULD, WHAT WE SHOULD ADD IS WHEN COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON INFORMED US THAT THE KIWANIS CLUB HAD MADE PARTS OF THE KIWANIS CLUB MADE THE DONATION, I ASKED HER TO GET THEIR LOGO.
SO WE HAD THE PROPER LOGO, AND WE IMMEDIATELY PUT THEIR LOGO ON ALL OF OUR ADVERTISERS AND FLYERS, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WAY THAT IT WAS PRESENTED TO US.
AND IT WAS ALWAYS PRESENTED TO US THAT THIS WAS A DONATION JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CONCERT SERIES.
AND THE VERY LAST DATE WAS, WAS BOOKED AND PROGRAMED WITH THAT IN MIND, THAT, THAT, THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT THAT, UH, THAT CONCERT.
WE DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE THAT IT DID NOT.
AND JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, WE STILL INCUR THE COST OF, OF PAYING FOR THE TALENT, BUT FOR US, IT'S, IT FELT LIKE A REAL SLAP IN THE FACE THE WAY THAT IT WAS HANDLED.
AND IT, AND, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF JULY.
IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED FOR YEARS.
JUST SO YOU'RE VERY MUCH AWARE THAT FOR THE PAST OVER 30 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
ONE OF OUR MEMBERS, UM, CRAIG BUTTER GLENVILLE, HE ACTUALLY JOINED HIS UNCLE, THE LATE DIZZY GILLESPIE ON THE, ON THIS, ON THE SUMMER JAZZ STAGE TO PERFORM.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT EVER SINCE THEN.
AND SO IT DID FEEL LIKE, IT FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE ALL THESE SACRIFICES AND IT JUST, IT KIND IT NOT REALLY APPRECIATED.
I MEAN, FOR ME, I TOTALLY HEAR YOU.
I AWAY IT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT DON'T, SO LEMME JUST SAY BEFORE, BEFORE YOU DO, I JUST WANNA SAY, OKAY, PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS FINE TO HAVE HERE, BUT PART OF THE CONVERSATION INVOLVES A CONTRACT.
SO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
AND I'M NOT PROVIDING ANY LEGAL ADVICE TO THE BOARD.
I JUST STATED MY LEGAL INTERPRETATION EARLIER, BECAUSE I HAD ALREADY TOLD RUSSELL AND ALITA, SO THAT WASN'T SUBJECT TO THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PROCESS.
BUT IF WE WANNA HAVE ANY MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING THE CONTRACT ITSELF.
BUT THE, LET ME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING.
THEY'RE BASICALLY WILLING TO HAVE A GRAND FENNELL IF WE COULD WORK.
TO ME, I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING LIKE A LEGAL FIGHT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT WHILE WE REALLY NEED IS, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT, AND I THINK GINA, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS WORKED HARD ON THIS AND EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL BASICALLY WANT TO HAVE A CONCERT SERIES BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE TRADITION OF THE TOWN AND THE FAIRVIEW COMMUNITY FOR, FOR DECADE.
YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS I'VE GONE TO ALL THE CONCERTS SINCE I WAS A COUNTY, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SINCE I WAS A COUNTY LEGISLATOR.
AND IT, IT WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANTED.
SO IF WE COULD, AND I THINK THE KIWANIS CLUB, THEY ALSO, WHEN THEY MADE THE DONATION, THEIR GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE SERIES.
UM, SO IF WE COULD BASICALLY SAY WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER ON A GRAND FINAL, NOT MAKE THIS A WHOLE LEGAL, UH, YOU KNOW, FIGHT AND BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROVIDERS, UM, GET, DO A, LIKE A MAGNIFICENT JOB, GETTING A GREAT TURNOUT AT THE, AT THE GRAND FENNELL, MAKE IT A REALLY GREAT COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATION.
I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, WE WOULD BE DOING, UH, THE COMMUNITY A REAL GREAT SERVICE.
AND THEN IF WE COULD, UH, SHOW HOW TERRIFIC IT IS, AND WE'RE ALL WORKING AND WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE WORK TO MAKE IT LIKE THE BEST EVENT, UM, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE IN THE FALL.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, WE WILL HAVE SO MUCH MOMENTUM THAT WE COULD HAVE THE BEST SUMMER SERIES NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I SAW THE QUALITY OF THE PERFORMANCE.
IF I, IF THEY WERE THIRD RATE MUSICIANS, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T CARE.
BUT THIS WAS, I, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE GONE TO SO MANY GS CONCERTS LOCALLY AND, UH, OUTDOOR SUMMER CONCERTS OVER THE YEARS.
THERE WAS NOTHING THAT EVEN CAME CLOSE TO COMPARING AS GOOD AS THIS.
UH, I, I LIKE TO, I JUST LIKE TO SAY REAL QUICK, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLICITY REGARDING THIS EVENT, UM, YOU KNOW, LOCALLY IT'S VERY SMALL, LACKLUSTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE PLANNING THIS EVENT JUST MONTHS BEFORE IT TAKES PLACE, UM, WE'RE NOT INCLUDED
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IN THE, THE FULL EDITORIAL, UH, FOCUS, WHETHER IT'S, UM, MAGAZINES WITHIN THE WESTCHESTER AREA, UH, LOCALLY NEWS, ANY OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO LATE, UM, IN THE PLANNING SEASON, IN THE SPONSORSHIP SEASON, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.UM, AND WE HAVE PRODUCED A MIRACLE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A LAYLA IN THE BACKYARD, LIKE TWO MILES AWAY, THAT PARK WOULD BE FULL.
ROBERT RANDOLPH WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD'VE HAD A TRAFFIC ISSUE, HAD PEOPLE REALLY KNOWN THAT THEY WERE THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE AN EXTENSIVE, UM, UH, PRESS RELEASE, UH, INITIATIVE.
I'VE SENT OUT SEVERAL PRESS RELEASES OVER A FIVE MONTH, UH, FOUR MONTH PERIOD.
UM, WE WERE FEATURED IN, I LOVE NEW YORK.ORG, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HAS 1.5 MILLION FOLLOWERS ON INSTAGRAM AND ABOUT ANOTHER 3 MILLION UNIQUE USERS A MONTH.
SO WE DID GET A PLACEMENT, UM, UM, THIS, THIS SEASON.
BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A GREATER LEAD TIME TO BE FEATURED IN THE WESTCHESTER MAGAZINE AND ANY OF THE LOCAL PUBLICATIONS, UM, IN THE AREA TO BUILD THE MOMENTUM AND, AND, AND GIVE SOME INSIGHT TO, UM, AND ANTICIPATION OF THE, THE SHOWS TO COME FOR THE FOLLOWING SEASON.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THIS EVENT, THOUGH.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE WAY THAT EVERYBODY COMMUNICATES IN THIS DAY AND AGE AND THE WAY THAT WE RECEIVE INFORMATION IS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE TOWN'S SOCIAL MEDIA AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT REGULAR POSTING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING.
SO IT'S LIKE, IN ORDER TO GET A CERTAIN KIND OF LEVEL OF RESPONSE, YOU NEED SOME ENGAGEMENT.
SO YOU REALLY PROBABLY NEED A SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER, SOMEBODY, I'M SURE THERE'S SOME YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, THAT MANAGER, NOT MODERATOR,
AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT HAPPENS.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DISTRACTIONS THAT KEEP US IN OUR HOMES NOW.
AND TO GIVE PEOPLE UP, YOU REALLY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND WE ACTUALLY NOW HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY AND WE NOW HAVE A MODERATOR, UM, THAT'LL, THAT'LL HELP US.
NO, I, SOMEONE CREATING CONTENT, IT DOESN'T CREATE CONTENTS.
I DIDN'T INTERRUPT, INTERRUPT YOU.
UM, GINA JACKSON WAS, WAS METICULOUS AND MAKING SURE, USING AT LEAST OUR WEBSITE, PUSHING IT OUT TO SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE, UH, THAT IT GOT OUT.
BUT AGAIN, THE TIME IS SHORT AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS EARLIER SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND, AND THE FACT THAT THERE WAS REALLY NO, UH, SET SEQUENCE OF WHO'S GONNA PERFORM, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT DIDN'T HELP US EITHER, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT IT OUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT WHEN WE KNEW ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT HAS EXCLUSIVITY WRITTEN INTO IT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT MAY BE LIMITED IN ITS APPLICA, UH, APPLICABILITY.
I CAN SEE THAT THERE WASN'T A MEETING OF MINES ON THIS CONTRACT.
AND, YOU KNOW, MY, MY POSITION HAS BEEN, IF WE DIDN'T GET THE $4,000 FROM KIWANIS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A SIGN UP THERE SAYING THEY WERE SPONSORING THE EVENT, MAKING IT SEEM NOT CO-SPONSORING, BUT SPONSORING THE EVENT AS IF THE TOWN DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT $30,000, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS COVERED BY KIWANIS AS OPPOSED TO $4,000.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE THIS, THIS, UM, FEELING THAT, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONE THAT'S DOING THE SPONSORSHIPS.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT MONEY.
YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY FROM WHAT YOU'RE DOING, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE FUTURE AND, UH, RELATIONSHIP.
BUT IT'S NOT BEING APPLIED TOWARDS THE JAZZ CONCERT.
AND I KNOW THE KIWANIS WANTED IT TO BE APPLIED TO THE CONT JAZZ CONCERT.
AND WHAT ULTIMATELY IT TURNED OUT BEING IS OFFSETTING THE, NOT YOUR COSTS, BUT THE COST TO THE TOWN.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS REALLY INTENDED, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND OUR TOWN ATTORNEY'S POSITION.
I COULD UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION REGARDING THE, THE TERM EXCLUSIVITY IN HERE, AND THAT YOU ACTUALLY EVEN HAVE EXCLUSIVITY OVER SOME OF
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THE, OF WHAT, WHO THE SPONSORS ARE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU WEREN'T ASKED FOR IN ADVANCE WHETHER OR NOT THIS WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.AND I JUST THINK WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A BUMP IN THE ROAD.
UH, LET'S GO OVER THE BUMP, LET'S HAVE THE FINALE WHENEVER THAT CAN BE HELD, WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN IN ADVERTISING IT AND REALLY START EARLY IN THE SEASON NEXT YEAR OR EARLIER REGARDING NEXT YEAR AND PROMOTING THIS EVEN MORE.
SO WHEN WOULD YOU, WHEN DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
SO LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHAT, RIGHT, NOT THAT I EVER WANNA GO AGAINST MY TOWN ATTORNEY, BECAUSE THAT'S NEVER IN MY BEST INTEREST, BUT I REALLY WILL, I REALLY WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR US TO HAVE THIS FINALE.
AND WHAT THE PRODUCERS HAS MENTIONED IS THAT FUNDING IS A CHALLENGE HERE.
SO HOW DO WE, AND AGAIN, I LOOK AT THE WHOLE BOARD, HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT A WAY SO THEY'RE ABLE TO USE THE INTENDED FUNDS FROM THE KIWANIS CLUB? YOU HAVE MY OPINION.
I'M ASKED, I ASKED AROUND THE TABLE MY OPINION, AND SINCE WE HAVE TO HAVE A MODIFIED AGREEMENT ANYWAY, THAT WE CAN MODIFY THE, THE AGREEMENT AS RELATES TO THAT $4,000.
IT SAYS IT'S ONLY 30% OF THE 4,000.
SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA ADVOCATE AGAIN.
WE RECEIVED A DONATION OF $4,000.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE, ASK AROUND THE TABLE IF JUST AS WAS JUST DESCRIBED, CAN WE APPROVE TO ALLOW THE FULL $4,000 SO WE CAN PUT THAT TOWARD THE FINALE? BECAUSE I, AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED TO REHASH THIS 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SAID IT.
I DON'T WANNA CONTINUE TO SPEND TIME SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
BUT WE ALL SAID IT WAS A PHENOMENAL SERIES.
THE PRODUCERS DID A PHENOMENAL, UM, JOB.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES.
AND, AND FOR, FOR RELATIONSHIP PURPOSES AS A WHOLE, THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
UM, WHEN I SPOKE TO TERRENCE JACKSON, HE SAID THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE COST WAS, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERTIME AND EXTRA COST.
SO THEY HAD SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, THE 30%.
SO WHAT IF WE, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS GRAND FINALE, WHAT IF WE SAID YOU COULD HAVE THE 30% THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL YOU'RE ENTITLED TO, AND THEN THE REST WE'LL USE, UH, TO COVER SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS OF, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE TOWN? 'CAUSE THE TOWN, UH, HAS PUT COSTS BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR 30%.
AND I, UH, I, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, I COULD LIVE WITH.
YOU KNOW, WE DID SIGN THE CONTRACT INITIALLY AND IT WAS $30,000 EVEN WITHOUT A GR EVEN WITHOUT ANY, YOU KNOW, GRANTS.
AND THEN I REACHED OUT TO, UM, UM, UH, TO, UH, THE KIWANIS CLUB LAST SUMMER BECAUSE I BASICALLY, UM, WANTED TO SEE THE CONCERT, YOU KNOW, GO ON.
AND, UM, AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE AT THE COMMU, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERTIME COSTS AND ADDITIONAL COSTS.
AND I WANT YOU TO, I HAVE TO INTERRUPT, WE AS A C AND OUR PERFORMANCES WERE NEVER INVOLVED IN ANY OVERTIME.
SO NOTHING NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TOWN IS NO, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT MY, THE POINT IS, IS THAT IF, UH, COMMISSIONER TERRANCE JACKSON AND WITH REGARDS TO, BECAUSE I, THIS IS MY SECOND TIME HEARING ABOUT THIS OVERTIME FOR THE JAZZ CONCERT BEING ATTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, JAZZ CONCERT WHERE WE WERE, WHEN WE DISCUSSED INITIALLY ABOUT STAYING WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME THERE, SUCH THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A OVERTIME THAT WAS APPLIED TO US, THEN THAT'S WHY WE CLOSED THE CONCERT DOWN AT A PARTICULAR TIME.
AND THE, AND THE EVERYTHING WAS MOVED OUT.
WE WEREN'T IN THE CENTER, WE WEREN'T IN ANY OF THESE SPACES.
NOW, IF OVERTIME HAD, IF THERE WAS ANY ISSUE IN OVERTIME THAT MAY HAVE BEEN RELATED TO THE VENDORS AND THE PEOPLE STILL IN THE PARK WITH THE VENDORS.
NO, THAT'S, THAT WE HAD, DON'T EARN ANYTHING OFF OF, AND THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR PERFORMANCES AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY, UH, MATERIALS WITHIN THE CENTER.
WE WERE OUT AT THE DESIGNATED TIMES THAT WE HAD AGREED TO.
SO FOR A SC AND THAT FUNDING TO BE, YOU KNOW, HELD KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, YOU GUYS HAD, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA APPLY OVERTIME.
THAT'S THAT WE, WE, WE WERE VERY CONSCIOUS OF.
'CAUSE THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS MADE FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND SO WE WERE VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT THAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, JACKSON, UH, TERRANCE, AND ABOUT NOT MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE THEN WERE IN THAT TIMEFRAME AND WE KEPT OUR WORD ON THAT.
SO, BUT THE BUT THE OVERTIME IS NOT APPLIED.
NOT, NOT THE TIME THAT YOU WENT OVER THE CONCERT.
THE TIME BETWEEN THE END OF THE WORKDAY, FIVE
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O'CLOCK UNTIL FI UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK.THAT'S THE OVERTIME FOR STAFF.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPEN AND THEY HAVE THE SUMMER GAMES COMMUNITY CENTER DOESN'T CLOSE DOWN AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
WELL, NOT ALL THE STAFF THAT IS THERE SIX THAT MOMENT THEY HAVE, THEY HAD THE GAMES, EVERYTHING THAT HAD THE PARK GAMES AND STUFF.
THIS IS WHY, THIS IS WHY WE WERE, THIS IS WHY WE WERE INTENTIONAL TO MAKE SURE WE DID IT.
SO WE DIDN'T, I'M SORRY, RUSSELL, GIMME TWO SECONDS.
THIS IS WHY WE WERE INTENTIONAL WHEN WE WERE PLANNING THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T INCURRING ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSES, JUST FOR THOSE REASONS.
BECAUSE UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS JUST SAID, THEY GOT A MINIMAL FEE TO PUT THESE PRODUCTIONS ON, TO PUT THIS PRODUCTION ON, RIGHT? MM-HMM
NOW ANYTHING COME O ANYTHING THAT CAME AFTER THAT? WE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO GIVE THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ALL JUST MENTIONED THE TALENT THAT WAS BROUGHT HERE.
SO TOMATOES, TOMA, WELL, I WON'T SAY THAT.
AND YOU SAW I DIDN'T LEAVE, WE MADE SURE PEOPLE WERE OUT BY A CERTAIN TIME BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA OCCUR AND I DIDN'T WANT A BILL TO COME TO SAY, HEY GUYS, YOU, WE, YOU OWE US BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET YOU, YOU EXCEEDED YOUR TIME BY HOUR OR WHATEVER THAT CASE MAY BE.
SO AGAIN, AGAIN, HO HOLD ON TWO SECONDS.
I'M NOT SURE WHO JUST SPOKE, BUT AGAIN, I'M STILL GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR ALL THAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST THREE DECADES AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THIS YEAR.
AND WE HAVE ALL WITNESSED IT THAT WE END, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION WHO PUT IN A DONATION JUST EARMARKED FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT.
WHILE WE COULD NOT SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH OF OUR APPRECIATION AND CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS RELATIONSHIP THAT WE AFFORD THEM THAT MONEY.
EVERY TIME I ALWAYS INTERRUPT ME.
ELLEN HAS BEEN TRYING TO TALK, YOU KNOW, THAT.
PLEASE UHHUH, NANCY, BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS GOING ON AT ONCE, SO JUST, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME CLARITY AND THEN LET'S JUST SUM IT UP AND THEN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, MY 2 CENTS WOULD THAT THE CONCERTS WERE WONDERFUL AND I THANK YOU.
SO THE OVERTIME ISSUE, THERE WERE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, AS I SAID, AND I COULD NOT DISCERN WHAT THE, WHAT HAPPENED.
SO ON ONE HAND, UM, TERENCE JACKIN JACKSON SAID THAT THERE WAS OVERTIME IN HER, BUT THE ARRANGEMENTS THAT HAD BEEN MADE BEFORE, UM, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN, GINA? I'M SORRY, WHAT? THE OVERTIME, THE OVERTIME, THE OVERTIME THAT WAS EXPLAINED HERE.
WHAT WE TRIED TO DO DURING THE SERIES, KNOWING THAT THE PARKS WERE GOING TO BE OPEN BECAUSE THEY DO, UH, SUMMER BASKETBALL, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T INCUR ANY ADDITIONAL OVERTIME OR OVERTIME FOR THE, FOR THE CONCERTS, UM, DURING THAT TIME.
SO WE MADE SURE WE WERE OUT BY AT LEAST 8 45, NO LATER THAN 8 55.
WE WERE SHUTTING THE CONCERTS DOWN.
STAFF HAD SO, IN LINE, SO BOTTOM LINE, YOU, YOU HAD THE CONCERTS HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME THAT STAFF WAS GOING TO BE THERE BECAUSE OF BASKETBALL LEAGUE? CORRECT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT, LEMME JUST SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I SPOKE TO TERRANCE, UH, I MET WITH TERRANCE LAST FRIDAY.
NO, BUT LEMME JUST SAY NO, I, NO, I I'M NOT CUTTING YOU OFF.
I'M NOT CUTTING, I'M NOT CUTTING YOU OFF.
SO BASICALLY, HE, HE TOLD ME THROUGHOUT THE CONCERT SERIES, THIS WAS VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, FROM A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, UM, INITIATIVE.
UM, HE FEELS THAT IT'S CUTTING INTO THEIR BUDGET.
SO WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SAY FOR THE GRAND FINALE, WE COULD TELL THE, THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY OVERTIME BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THEY SPEND TONS OF OVERTIME.
UM, COURSE AND THIS WAS VERY COSTLY.
NO, LET ME, LET ME, I'M NOT, YOU CAN FINISH AFTER I'M TALKING.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT, UM, I WOULD BE, I THINK THAT IF WE COULD SAY, UH, TO TERRANCE, WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONCERTS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE, PUT STAFF AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO, UH, HIRE ANYBODY.
WE COULD HAVE, IF WE COULD HAVE LIKE A LITTLE COMMITTEE, WE COULD HAVE VOLUNTEERS FROM THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, MYSELF, I COULD HELP, UH, PUT THE CHAIRS BACK.
OTHER PEOPLE WOULD DO THE SAME THING.
THAT CUT, THAT WOULD CUT, THAT WOULD CUT.
THAT WOULD CUT SOME OF THE COSTS.
AND THEN I WOULD BE HAPPY AND THEY'D BE HAPPY.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO, TO A SC, THERE
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WAS, THERE, THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT STORIES GOING ON TO START PLANNING FOR THE NEXT ONE BEFORE WE SORT OUT THIS ONE.LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A FEW MOMENTS.
WE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS FROM THIS, AND YES, WE HAVE TO COME TO A RESOLVE.
THE RESOLVE IS IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE DO, UM, APPROACH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE THE, THE ATTORNEY ASKS THAT WE DO THAT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WE HEARD ONE HAS GONE ON.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF MIS, A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION OR MISUNDERSTANDING.
UM, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AND MAKE A DECISION.
WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION, EXECUTE IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THE CON THIS SINGLE CONCERT GOING FORWARD FOR THE GRAND FINALE AND LET'S DO THAT AND, AND NOT KEEP THAT, NOT KEEP, AND, AND RUSSELL HANGING ON THE LINE AS WE BANDING BACK AND FORTH, LET'S
I DON'T SEE WHY IT HAS TO BE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THIS IS, THERE'S NO REALLY LEGAL DISPUTE RIGHT NOW.
WE ALL AGREED THAT WE WANT THE CONCERT TO CONTINUE.
UH, WE ALL AGREED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A GRAND FINAL.
UH, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COURT OVER THIS.
IT'S BASICALLY, IT, BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA, IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT, UM, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD BASICALLY LET THEM START PLANNING A GRAND FINAL, WE'LL ALL WORK ON IT.
WE COULD MAYBE, UH, WE COULD REACH OUT TO TERRANS, UM, UM, JACKSON AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, SAY NO OVERTIME SHOULD BE SPENT, UH, FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, UM, FROM THE CENTER.
AND BASICALLY, UH, WE WILL REDUCE SOME OF THE COSTS.
AND ACTUALLY AS A RESULT OF THIS LITTLE, UM, CONTROVERSY, IT PROBABLY WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE, UM, WE WON'T HAVE TO USE OVERTIME.
AND IT WILL BE, UH, IT WILL BE A LESS EXPENSIVE INITIATIVE AND WE'LL GET QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT AND MAYBE WE COULD EVEN HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE CONCERTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY, I'M GONNA BE GOING TO THE KIWANIS CLUB, UM, YOU KNOW, CARNIVAL, UM, ON LATE THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA ASK THEM IF, IF THE QAS CLUB WILL AGAIN SUPPORT THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS RESOLVED.
UM, BEFORE, BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE QAS CLUB, UH, CARNIVAL.
SO THIS WAY WE COULD SAY THIS WAS REALLY GREAT.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD HIGHLIGHT THEM AT THE GRAND FINALE.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE THE LEADERSHIP OF THE KIWANIS CLUB AT THE EVENT.
WE COULD, UH, WE COULD, UH, THANK THEM PUBLICLY AND MAYBE GIVE THEM A PROCLAMATION AT THE, AT THE, AT THE CONCERT.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE A PROCLAMATION TO THE PRODUCERS TOO.
YOU, MAYBE WE COULD EVEN, UM, SOME TIME NOW, MAYBE IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING EVEN, UH, THIS YEAR, MAYBE WE COULD INVOLVE SOME OF THE, UH, EXCEPTIONAL STUDENTS AT, UM, AT WOODLANDS WHO ARE MUSICIANS AND GET THEM INVOLVED ALSO.
SO THIS WAY COULD, OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER JACKSON WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE CALL.
HE'S GONNA CALL MY PHONE AND I'LL PUT IT ON SPEAKER.
SO ARE YOU SAYING, I WOULD JUST WANNA BE CLEAR BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S NO OVERTIME IF IT'S A JAZZ CONCERT, ARE ARE WE SAYING THERE WAS NO OVERTIME FOR MOVIE NIGHT? THERE'S NO OVERTIME FOR OTHER EVENTS.
WELL, RIGHT, WELL THIS IS THIS CONCERT SERIES THERE.
THIS CONCERT SERIES IS, UH, EUGENE JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OVERTIME.
I SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EXCEED OVERTIME BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAD SUMMER BASKETBALL GAMES GOING ON.
SO THEN I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, JUST TO MAKE SURE, WHEN I WAS, WAS I, WHEN I SPOKE TO TERRANCE, I GOT THE FEELING THAT THERE IS TERRA RIGHT ON THE PHONE.
SO COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANNA WEIGH IN? WAS I I SPOKE TO TERRANCE.
WE NEED HIM TO SHUT THE MEETING OFF.
SHUT OFF THE MEETING SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
AND JOY, WOULD YOU OPEN UP TO THE MICROPHONE? SO THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING.
ALRIGHT, I SHOULD, I'VE DONE IT.
UM, JUST FOR A CLARIFICATION, UM, THERE DEFINITELY WAS OVER TIME, UM, THE STAFF THAT WORKS, THE BASKETBALL GAME IS PRETTY MUCH ALL PART-TIME STAFF THAT COME IN FOR JUST THAT THERE ARE TWO, UM, ACTUALLY ONE PERSON THAT'S GENERALLY IN
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THE PARK IN THE EVENINGS THAT ONLY DOES GARBAGE CANS AND ALL WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE WERE EXPECTING AS WELL AS PEOPLE TO PUT THROUGH THE ELECTRIC, THE, UM, ELECTRICAL AND OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS TO MAKE SURE IT GOES RIGHT.UM, THERE WERE FOUR FULL-TIME STAFF, UH, FROM MY STAFF AND ANOTHER TWO PART-TIMERS THAT WERE JUST FOR JAZZ.
THEY WOULD CLOCK IN AT I BELIEVE, FIVE 30, SEE EITHER FIVE OR FIVE 30 TO START GETTING THINGS TOGETHER IN ADDITION PART, UM, UM, DPW HAD ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO THREE PEOPLE, UH, ON SITE AS WELL.
SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COSTS FROM THE TOWN.
DID WE KNOW THIS FRONT? NO, NO.
DIDN'T, I WILL SAY, SO I WILL SAY I DID NOT KNOW THAT HELLO KNOW VENDORS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COLLECTING FOR VENDORS AND THEN YOU'RE UP THERE AS WELL FOR VENDORS.
SO WE DON'T KNOW BASED ON, BECAUSE 'CAUSE NO, THERE NEVER BEEN ANY ITEMIZED INFORMATION AS TO A ABSOLUTELY AFTER EACH SHOW WHAT WE SUPPOSEDLY NOW OWE IN OVERTIME WHERE WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS CONS IN, IN HELLO, IT IS JUST A PART OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
AND NOW WE'RE COMING DOWN TO THE MINUTIA OF THESE SMALL MINOR OF PAY KIND OF DETAILED THINGS FOR THE LEVEL WE ARE, WE ARE LITERALLY HAGGLING OVER $4,000 AND WE JUST GOT FINISHED TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SPEND OUT OF POCKET, LET ALONE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN COME BACK.
SO IT REALLY MINIMIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF FAIRVIEW AND MOVING FAIRVIEW FORWARD IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS US TO KEEP A TRADITION WHERE, YOU KNOW, I CAN NEVER IMAGINE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE REALLY LIKE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SEPARATE THING FROM THE CENTER NOW WHEN WE WERE ALL A COLLECTIVE.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THE, THE LACK OF PEOPLE COMING AROUND HAS TO DEAL WITH THE, THE, UH, MORALE
SO I I HAVE TO, I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO INTERRUPT YOU RIGHT THERE.
THAT, THAT'S VERY DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR COMMISSIONER BECAUSE WHEN YOU ENVISION A CONCERT, THERE'S ALL THE EXPENSES THAT WE, WE NEVER HAD A MEETING TALK.
WELL SHE'S, SHE'S, I DON'T REALLY WANT, BUT YOU JUST CUT HER OFF.
WELL, SHE'S DOESN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION.
FEEL THAT WE DON'T DESERVE IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE GOING, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING FROM YOUR SIDE OF IT, IS THAT SOMEHOW WE ARE BEING CHEAP INTO LIKE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD GET 30% OR $4,000 FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING.
SO, BUT YOU CLEAR WHY AHEAD BEING MISSED.
CAN THE COMMISSIONER RESPOND PLEASE?
UM, IN NO WAY WAS I STATING THAT, UM, A CS UH, OWED ANY OF THE OVERTIME MONEY.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLY ON THAT EVERYBODY AS I THOUGHT KNEW, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IS A WAY TO GET THIS STARTED SO WE COULD BRING IT BACK STRONGER AND BETTER IN THE FUTURE.
THERE WAS NO ANTICIPATION THAT THAT MONEY WAS TO COME OUT OF A CS OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
IT WAS JUST, I NEED THE BOARD TO KNOW MM-HMM
THE EXPENSES OF WHAT ELSE WAS GOING ON.
BUT I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
IF AT THE END OF THE YEAR YOU LOOK AT MY BUDGET AND SEE HOW FAR OVERDRAWN WE ARE AND KNOW WHERE SOME OF IT MAY HAVE COME FROM, THAT WAS THE ONLY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THERE.
WELL, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE ONLY EVENT THAT HAS OVERTIME THAT KEEPS YOUR, YOUR, YOU KNOW, KEEPS YOUR BUDGET BUSTED AND OR MAKE SURE BUDGET BUSTED.
UM, THAT, THAT IS CORRECT AS WELL.
AND I GOTTA, IT'S JUST GONNA BE HIGHER.
I I GOTTA, I I HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING, AND I SAID THIS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, AT ONE OF THE NIGHTS, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE THE DID YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES, YOU HAVE THE WORD COMMUNITY IN BOTH NAMES AND VERY FEW DEPARTMENTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO NAMES TO THEM.
ONE A BUILDING AND, AND ONE THE ACTUAL DEPARTMENT.
AND THIS IS, THESE ARE NOT JUST JAZZ CONCERTS, THESE ARE COMMUNITY CONCERTS.
YOU HAVE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT MULTI-GENERATIONAL, YOU COULD BRING YOUR 2-YEAR-OLD, YOUR 5-YEAR-OLD, YOUR TEENAGER, YOU COULD BRING YOUR ADULT, YOU CAN BRING YOUR SENIORS AND EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT TIME, RIGHT?
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EXCEPT WHEN GINA STARTED DANCING UP AND DOWN THE AISLE.BUT
WELL, YOU HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE AT ONE POINT.
UH, THESE ARE REALLY FAMILY COMMUNITY EVENTS AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SAYING, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH OVERTIME, WE DEAL WITH OVERTIME ALL THE TIME.
AND YES, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT IN YOUR BUDGET, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA PLAN, WE'RE GONNA PLAN IN ADVANCE FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.
THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR A WHILE.
AND FRANKLY, I WANT GREENBERG TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE QUALITY OF THESE JAZZ CONCERTS BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET HIGHER QUALITY AND YOU DON'T GET WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE 2, 5, 6, 10 90, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL GETTING TOGETHER AND JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME.
AND YES, THE VENDORS WERE GREAT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE CLEANUP THAT YOU NEEDED EXTRA PEOPLE FOR WERE FROM THE VENDORS WHICH JCS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OR A SE.
SO I DO WANT, I DO HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT DOUBTING THE IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, THE QUALITY OF THE MUSIC, ALL THOSE THINGS ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING.
HOWEVER, JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER VENDOR, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A SC FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
IT WAS PAID IN FULL AND A A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CONCERTS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
I'M ASKING THE PRODUCERS CONCERTS.
AND, AND I, AND I GUESS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING SOMEWHERE WITH THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
UM, WE, WE'VE ALL GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE DAYS.
ONE OF THE DAYS YOU ALL CANCELED WITH NO CONTINGENCY ON THAT.
SO THAT WAS A PART OF A COST THAT WE INCURRED UNDERSTOOD THAT DAY.
AND I EXPLAINED THAT EARLY ON.
SO THIS LAST DAY THAT WE CANCELED, WE'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY THAT WAS CANCELED.
OH, DUE TO THE PLANNING AROUND IT AND THE LACK OF FUNDING.
BECAUSE IT WAS PLANNED BASED ON THE FUNDING.
AND SO WE HAVE INITIATED WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND FIND ANOTHER DAY.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE CIRCLING BACK TO THAT AGAIN.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE LACK OF FUNDING? YOU WERE PAID THE 30,000 FOR THE SIX? WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
WE WERE, WE WERE SOLD TO PLAN A FINALE CONCERT UHHUH, AND IT WAS, AND WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF THE $4,000 PERIOD, BUT I THOUGHT YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAS 30% OF THE 4,000.
THE ONLY QUESTION WOULD WE WERE TOLD WAS WHETHER THEY HAVE TO PAY THE PERFORMANCE, WHETHER IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN TIME FOR THE CONCERT, WHETHER A CHECK COULD BE CUT IN TIME.
SO THE LACK OF FUNDING WAS $4,000.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YOU WERE ONLY SHORT $4,000 FINALE.
WE PLANNED THE FINALE ACCORDING TO WHAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO US.
SO IF WE KNEW, IF THAT WASN'T MADE AVAILABLE TO US AND WE WERE NOT, UM, GIVEN THAT SPONSORSHIP, THEN WE WOULD'VE JUST PLANNED SOMETHING VERY BASIC.
BUT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WANTED AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FINALE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE NEWS 12 AND OTHER, UH, PEOPLE TO COME IN THE COMMUNITY WE GALVANIZED, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ENDED ON A HIGH NOTE.
AND ONCE WE WERE DEFINITELY, UM, INFORMED OF THE KIWANIS UH, SUPPORT, WE PLANNED ACCORDINGLY WITH THE INCLUSION OF THAT PARTICULAR, UH, THAT PARTICULAR SPONSORSHIP.
SO UP UNTIL THAT WEDNESDAY IT WAS PLANNED ACCORDING TO THAT FUNDING ADDED IN ADDITION TO, 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE INCORPORATED OUR FUNDING OUT WHAT WE WOULD GET BACK INTO THE ENTIRE SHOW.
SO WE HAVEN'T MADE ONE RED CENT.
LET ME JUST BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
BUT, BUT, BUT YOU DID SIGN A CONTRACT BASED ON AN AMOUNT, SO I KNOW, BUT, BUT, BUT YOU KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT MINOR, BUT THAT'S NOT MINOR.
THE $1,700 THAT WE SPENT OUT OF POCKET FOR THE DATE THAT WAS CANCELED FROM THE TOWN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SPECIFICS OF THE CONTRACT OKAY.
WHICH IT SEEMS THAT WE WANNA BE.
AND, AND, AND I THINK WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY SAID WAS, LET'S, LET'S COME TOGETHER, LET'S UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHAT IT IS WE WILL CLOSE OUT, BUT WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS POINT.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC ALSO WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING, UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED.
'CAUSE EVERYONE WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED AT THE LAST MINUTE CANCELLATION.
I HONESTLY, I I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH A LOT OF MUSIC PRODUCERS IN, IN MY CAREER, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PRETTY EGREGIOUS TO CANCEL THE DAY BEFORE, AFTER A CONTRACT HAD BEEN FULFILLED
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ACCORDING TO WHAT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS EGREGIOUS TO, UH, UH, TO, TO, UM, TO, TO, UM, NOT HAVE A CONTINGENCY PLAN WHEN YOU ALL CANCELED AS WELL.SO WHEN YOU CANCELED ON THE SECOND DAY AND NOT HAD A CONTINGENCY PLAN FOR THAT PERFORMER THAT WE HAD TO, UH, CANCEL THE DAY OF OR THE DAY BEFORE AS WELL MM-HMM
SO WE STILL HAD COSTS ASSOCIATED SURE.
AND THAT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT, WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO NEXT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE CAME WITH A GREAT SPIRIT OF TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE THIS FOLK, YOU KNOW, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME RESPECTABILITY FOR WHAT WE DO AS WELL AS THE RESPECTABILITY FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE COME FROM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR, OUR WHAT WE ARE DOING IN OUR BACKYARD IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
SO NO ONE HAS, NO ONE HAS SAID THAT ONCE.
CAN I JUST, CAN I JUST ASK YOU ONE QUESTION? I JUST HAVE A CARRY I HAVE A, A QUESTION OF, UH, CURIOSITY.
WHEN WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT, IN THE WINTER, UH, WE SAID, OH, IT WAS GONNA BE SIX CONCERTS, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE SPECIFIED AT THAT TIME WHO THE MUSICIANS WERE.
SO WE BASICALLY SAID SIX CONCERTS.
SO BASICALLY WE COULD HAVE, YOU COULD HAVE GIVEN US SIX, UH, HIGH SCHOOL BED MUSICIANS WHO WERE BASICALLY MEDIOCRE, UH, MUSICIANS.
SO YOU GAVE US THE CREAM OF THE, THE CROP, LIKE THE, THE DIAMOND STANDARD RATHER THAN, UH, THE BRONZE STANDARD.
SO RIGHT NOW, UH, WHEN THE, YOU, WHEN I GO TO THE KIWANIS CLUB AND SAY, WILL YOU, YOU KNOW, UH, DONATE FOR NEXT YEAR? I COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CHOICE.
WE COULD HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE HIGH SCHOOL MUSICIANS AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO IT FOR THIS AMOUNT OR WE COULD GET, DO SOMETHING THAT I REALLY, EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN WILL BE REALLY PROUD OF AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, BUT IT'S GONNA COST MORE.
YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, IN, IN RECENT YEARS AND THIS YEAR, WE HAD THE BEST MUSICIANS ANYBODY COULD EVEN THINK OF.
THERE'S NOBODY WHO ATTENDED THE CONCERTS, WHO, WHO WOULD THINK IT WAS EVEN B PLUS RATED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE TO CONTINUE.
SO, SO MY FAILING IS THAT, UM, UH, JUDGE, SINCE WE NEVER SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR, UM, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTING THE QUALITY OF MUSICIANS, WE ONLY HAD A CONTRACT FOR THE SIX MUSICIANS THAT IF, IF WE BASICALLY WORK WITH YOU, THEN WE COULD HAVE A, A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, WE COULD HAVE A GREAT GRAND FINAL, AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING EVEN BETTER.
WELL, PARENTS ALSO, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EXTRA WORK, ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US, AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
SO WHEN DO, WHEN COULD WE GET BACK TO THEM? I'M GONNA HANG UP THE, AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, THEY NEED TO COME UP WITH, UH, WHATEVER MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH, FOR EXTENDING IT PAST THE DEADLINE, AND THEN WE'LL WORK IN THE FUNDING THERE.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? A CSI DON'T THINK THAT A SC WE DO.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN AND LIKE I SAID, WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD.
THE NEXT THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UH, THE SNOW, UH, ORDINANCE RELATING TO TEXT, UH, ROAD SIDEWALK.
I MET WITH, UM, UM, WE WENT YEAH, LY YOU COULD SIGN OFF.
THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR GIFT TO YOU.
SO, UH, I MET WITH, UM, UH, RESIDENTS OF TAXI ROAD, UH, LAST, UH, LAST WEEK.
UH, FRANK MODO AND AARON SCHMIDT ALSO, UM, UH, WERE, UM, IN ATTENDANCE.
UM, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR THE, UH, SIDEWALK THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION WERE UPSET, UH, BECAUSE, UM, UH, THEY INDICATED THAT WE ALL HAD SAID THAT WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FAIR THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE TO DO THE, UM, SNOW REMOVAL.
AND, UM, THEY ASKED THAT WE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, A POLICY, YOU KNOW, TODAY I HAD TWO SUGGESTIONS.
ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE TOWN EITHER DOING WHAT WE DO ON OTHER STREETS, OTHER NEW SIDEWALKS LIKE COLUMBIA AVENUE, WHERE WE WOULD ABSORB THE COST, OR I WOULD THINK ANOTHER OPTION, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, LESS COSTLY WOULD BE, UM, AND I THINK MOST OF THE RESIDENTS AGREED WOULD BE TO BASICALLY SAY THE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF THERE'S A BIG SNOW STORM, UH, THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE, WE WOULD PUT SIGNS AT BOTH ENDS OF THE SIDEWALK SAYING THE SIDEWALK IS CLOSED, UM, UH, UH, DURING THE SNOW.
AND THEN WHEN OUR CREWS GET AROUND TO CLEARING IT, UH, WE WOULD JUST CLEAR
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THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SNOW AND THERE'S NO EXTRA OVERTIME.UM, YOU KNOW, 99% OF THE TIME THE YEAR THEY'D BE ABLE TO, UH, BENEFIT FROM THE SIDEWALK.
BUT JUST ON THOSE LIMITED OCCASIONS WHEN THERE'S SNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE CLOSED UNTIL OUR CREWS WOULD, WOULD CLEAN IT UP.
THERE'D BE NO EXTRA OVERTIME, NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE TOWN BECAUSE WE'D BE USING OUR CURRENT STAFF.
AND I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE HAPPY.
AND IT WOULD ALSO MAKE IT EASIER TO GET MORE SIDEWALKS BUILT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE WE'RE BUILDING THE SIDEWALKS FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PURPOSES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF RESIDENTS START COMING OUT AGAINST IT, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE ELDERLY, DISABLED, CAN, CAN, UM, CLEAR THE SNOW THEMSELVES, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CALMING AND REASSURING TO THEM.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, THEY'RE REALLY UPSET AND VERY, VERY DISTRESSED OVER THIS.
AND IT WOULD BE JUST NICE IF WE CALMED THEM DOWN.
I, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU BRING THIS UP, IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH IT AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
DO YOU WANNA PUT IT ON THE, THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK? WELL, I'M GONNA BE AWAY.
UM, BUT, BUT THE THING IS FOLLOWING WEEK SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION ONCE WE'RE ALL READY TO, TO CONSIDER WHAT IT IS YOU'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW.
UM, I WILL PULL UP THE MINUTES FROM, I WILL PULL UP THE MINUTES FROM WHEN COMMISSIONER LOU CASEY AND, UH, AT THE TIME, COMMISSIONER FA BROUGHT UP ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS ISSUE ON THE TAX TO ROAD AND THE COST.
SO I WILL FORWARD THAT TO THE BOARD SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF THE, UM, THE, UM, IT, IT WASN'T TRANSCRIBED, BUT ALL OF THE MINUTES FROM ALL OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT HAD SUBMITTED WORK, UM, COMMENTS REGARDING THIS VERY SUBJECT RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY COMMISSIONER MORDO WAS ON SITE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE COMING UP WITH YOUR BUDGET, SO YOU'LL WORK IN WHATEVER YOUR PROPOSAL WAS.
MY PROPOSAL WOULDN'T BE A BUDGET THE TOWN ATTORNEY OFFICE SAID WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS LIABILITY.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I I, THE SIDEWALK DELAYING, SHOVELING THE SIDEWALK.
WE, IF WE SAY WE'RE, EVERYTHING HAS POTENTIAL, THERE'S NEGATIVES, UH, TO EVERYTHING.
IF SOMEBODY, UH, IS WALKING ON THE STREET AND THEY'RE HIT BY A CAR, THEY COULD STILL, AS YOU KNOW, ALSO TO ME, SIDEWALKS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THE, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO, UM, MAKE PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING HEARD AND THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO THEM AND WE'RE BEING RESPONSIVE TO THEM.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, IF WE BASICALLY, UM, TRIED FIGURING OUT SOMETHING THAT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET PEOPLE, IF THERE'S A BIG SNOWSTORM AND IT TAKES THREE OR FOUR DAYS, MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA WALK ON A SIDEWALK.
UM, UH, THIS IS LIKE A SECONDARY, YOU'RE GONNA WALK ON TAXI THE ROAD, WHICH WE'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT GONNA, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SIDEWALK SO THEY DON'T WALK ON THE ROAD.
MOST PEOPLE WOULD REALIZE THAT IF THE ROAD BACK ON ROAD SLIPPERY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA WALK ON A ROAD UNTIL THE SIDEWALK IS, UM, IS UM, IS CLEARED OF SNOW.
THAT, THAT SIDEWALK ALSO IS, IT'S ON A VERY BUSY ROAD.
AND I DON'T WANNA SEE PEOPLE, IF YOU, IF I HAD TO SHOVEL ON THAT ON THE TAXI ROAD SIDEWALK, I'M GONNA BE SHOVELING FROM THE ROAD.
UM, AND BASICALLY I DON'T WANT TO SEE, UM, RESIDENTS, UM, HAVE TO GET ON THE ROAD TO CLEAR THE SNOW, UM, BECAUSE THAT COULD, UH, BE A POTENTIAL ACCIDENT.
SO JUST, SO THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE FOR US TO DO JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE ON COLUMBIA AND ON ARDSLEY ROAD AND ON SOME OTHER ROADS AND, UH, AND CLEARED THAT SIDEWALK AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THEY'LL BE REALLY PLEASED THAT WE WERE LISTENING TO THEM AND, UM, AND THAT WE WERE RESPONSIVE.
AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED FRANCIS, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR, WE CAN'T JUST RANDOMLY DO SOME SIDEWALKS AND NOT DO OTHERS.
WELL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE NOW.
WE CAN'T, AND WE TALKED ABOUT SIDEWALK DISTRICTS.
WE NEVER GET, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, IT'S FIVE YEARS.
AND WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT PROPOSAL MAYBE.
AND YOU CAN PUT IT INTO YOUR BUDGET WHAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
WOULD YOU THEN SUPPORT, UH, HAVING, I I WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF SH HAVING THE TOWN SHOVEL THE SIDEWALKS OF ALL HEAVILY USED ROADS BECAUSE THEY'RE MAJOR ROADS AND THE AMOUNT OF SNOW.
BUT THEN WE HAD THE FORENSIC AUDIT AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN AFFORD IT AT THIS POINT.
SO LET ME JUST SAY, SO IF I PUT 'EM, IF I ASK, UM, FRANK AND, UM, AND JOE LUCCHESE AND BOBBY
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BREEN TO, UH, GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO IDENTIFY SECONDARY ROADS, ROAD, NOT SECONDARY ROADS, FIRST ROAD, HEAVILY USED ROADS, HEAVILY, HEAVILY USED ROADS.UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A TERM IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE THAT ALREADY, BUT NO, BUT I'M GOOD.
THEY HAVE, DID THEY HAVE, I THINK WE HAVE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY GAVE US A DO YOU, DO YOU REMEMBER THE COST? NO, JUST, JUST, IT'S GOTTA BE IN OUR ARCHIVE.
SO JUST YOU, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS EVER A COST.
I'LL FORWARD THE MINUTES SEND YOU, AS LONG AS YOU'RE PULLING TOGETHER NUMBERS, YOU ALSO HAVE TO PULL TOGETHER THE COST FOR THE LIABILITY INSURANCE, BECAUSE WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT TOO.
AND THAT SHOULD BE FACTORED IN WITH THAT BUDGETING.
BUT THE, THE COST OF SOMEBODY DYING IS WORSE THAN, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN WHO LOOK, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF, I I'M JUST SAYING IF WE HAVE TO KNOW AS A TOWN TO BE RESPONSIBLE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE SIGNING ONTO.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL.
I'M NOT COMMENTING ON PEOPLE'S LIVES OR THE DANGERS, ET CETERA.
SO WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE WORKS.
AND THEN THE, THE LAST THING IS I SEE CLIFF ABRAMS IS HERE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE MURAL AND, UM, YOU JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF WE COULD JUST, UH, REMOVE THE SCAFFOLDING WITHOUT MAKING ANY COMMITMENTS, UM, UH, ABOUT WHETHER WE LIKE THIS MURAL OR NOT.
THIS IS JUST A, A LIABILITY ISSUE.
AND WE SAID THERE WERE LEGAL ISSUES.
OUR TOWN ATTORNEY WEIGHED IN, HE SAID THERE'S LEGAL ISSUES HE HAS TO DISCLOSE WITH US TONIGHT, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT IT AFTER THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE LEFT IT.
CAN I MAKE ONE VERY BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT? YES.
I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY COUNCIL HAS WITHDRAWN THEIR ARTICLE 78 PROCEEDING.
UM, SO CONSTRUCTION WILL CONTINUE AT EAST HARTSDALE AND WE THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR THEIR PATIENTS, BUT WE ARE HAPPY WE'VE GOTTEN PAST THIS HURDLE AND THAT WE CAN CONTINUE.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THAT COUNCIL FOR BEING PROFESSIONAL THROUGHOUT THE MANNER.
AND, UH, JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING PAST THIS.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND YOU TOWN ATTORNEY AND EXCELLENT.
AND WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.
YOU TWO JUDGES DECIDED THAT IT WAS NOT GONNA STOP THE WORK.
SO THAT'S VERY GOOD NEWS FOR EAST ROCKSTONE RESIDENTS.
INCLUDING THE APPELLATE DIVISION.
SO THE WORK IS PROCEEDED OVERTIME FOR THE RIDE OUT THERE.
ACTUALLY, LEMME BE CLEAR, WE NEVER STOPPED.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY WE NEVER STOPPED THE WORK, SO WE NOT, WE WE'RE GONNA, WE GONNA MAKE THEM WHOLE PAUL.
I MOVE, UH, TO GO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING.
I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF AN UPDATE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE CLOSING IT OUT.
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