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HI. WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING.
YOUR MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. HI. WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD MEETINGS TODAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH. AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS THE VETERANS RECOGNITION BARBECUE. YOU, MCCAULEY. YOU'RE UP TO.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? I'M SORRY. WE MUST PRESS THAT BUTTON SO IT TURNS GREEN. YES. MCCAULEY IS MCCAULEY.
I SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH. UH. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND, UH, REACH OUT TO OUR VETERANS AND THE FAMILIES OF OUR VETERANS. UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF GLITCHES WITH OUR MAILING LISTS, AND WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF OUR VETERANS THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED OF OUR DINNER COMING UP. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE UP ON THE SCREEN, UH, THE VETERANS RECOGNITION BARBECUE IS COMING UP THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH. IT'S FREE TO VETERANS, THE SPOUSES OF DECEASED VETERANS CAN ALSO ATTEND WITH A GUEST. AND, UM, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS CALL THE TOWN SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE AND REGISTER THE REGISTERS ONLY FOR AN RSVP SO OUR CHEFS CAN MAINTAIN A HEADCOUNT OF THE NUMBER OF MEALS THEY NEED TO PREPARE. SO, AGAIN, UM, FOR ANY VETERAN AND THE FAMILY OF VETERAN THAT DID NOT GET NOTIFIED, UM, WE ARE AWARE OF SOME ISSUES WITH OUR MAILING LISTS AND ON OUR LIST, AND WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT THAT, BUT I WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD FOR GIVING ME A QUICK OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO, UM, ADDRESS THAT AND TO PERSONALLY INVITE ANY VETERAN AND THEIR FAMILIES TO ATTEND. WE ALSO ENCOURAGE THE FAMILIES OF VETERANS. IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY IS A VETERAN AND THEY'VE NOT RESPONDED, PLEASE TRY AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO RESPOND. IT'S SO IMPORTANT. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK WHILE I'M HERE, UH, TAMBO, GINA, FRANCIS, JOY, LISA AND PAUL, UM, FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THIS GREAT EVENT, RECOGNIZING OUR VETERANS. AND I REALLY WANT TO TAKE THAT MOMENT TO THANK YOU ALL ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. AND ELLEN AND ABSTENTION.
AND ELLEN AND ABSTENTION OVER THERE. HI, ELLEN. OKAY.
UM, AND THE NUMBER TO CALL IS 914993 1540. CORRECT? CORRECT.
993993. IT'S 999. GREAT. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE REGISTERED? SO WE'RE NOT SURE. UH, KRISTIN'S MAINTAINING THAT COUNT. AND WE'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING. UH, MONDAY BEFORE AND WHEN THE CHEFS ARE FINALIZED. ACTION. WE'RE NOT FAXING. IT'S NOT. (914) 989-1540. OKAY, SO THERE YOU HAVE IT AGAIN. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. AND AGAIN, UH, IF YOU DID NOT GET NOTIFIED WE APOLOGIZE. BUT PLEASE REACH OUT AND, UH, WE'D LOVE TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE.
SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ALL OF OUR VETERANS. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT. YOU HAVE BEEN JUST VERY AN AMAZING ADVOCATE FOR OUR VETERANS. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THIS COUNTRY. AND WE KNOW THAT SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS RECOGNIZED, BUT YOU MAKE SURE YOU MAKE A POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VETERANS AND GREENBERG ARE RECOGNIZED. SO WE THANK YOU AND WE TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THIS COMMUNITY. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS YOU'RE RELENTLESS. YOU KEEP AT IT AND AT IT AND AT IT UNTIL YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT, WHICH IS GREAT.
YES. AND WHICH YOU APPRECIATE THAT.
WELL THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I'LL. I'LL LEAVE YOU TO YOUR BUSINESS. AND IT WAS A JOY TO BE HERE TONIGHT. AND, JOE, I'M GOING TO HIT THE BUTTON.
YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THE TIME OF THE.
YEAH. IT'S SEPTEMBER 17TH OF THE PROGRAM. STARTS AT 430 SHARP AND ARE, AS SPEAKERS KNOW, OUR SPEAKERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AT 430. THAT WOULD BE THE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE HERE. OKAY. AT 430. ALL RIGHT. SO WE GO RIGHT FROM OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND NATIONAL ANTHEM INTO A QUICK REMARKS.
AND FOOD IS SERVED 15 MINUTES LATER. SO IF YOU HAVE THAT LAST SPEAKER. YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. SURE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THE LAST SPEAKER BETWEEN US AND THE KITCHEN. AND AS BISHOP PRESTON OFTEN SAYS, HE'S THAT GUY. AND SO HE DOESN'T LIKE TO TO GO ON. BUT AGAIN, UM, YEAH. 430 AND YOU CAN YOU CAN COME IN ANYTIME BECAUSE THE FOOD SERVICE RUNS CONTINUOUSLY FROM 430. AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK, UH, JOE LUCCHESE, THE COMMISSIONER, NOEL BROCCOLI, UH, ROCHELLE, THE DIANE, THE WHOLE TEAM OVER AT PARKS AND RECREATION, BECAUSE THEY DO THAT. ALSO, OUR BOY AND GIRL SCOUT TROOP LEADERS AND ALL OUR VOLUNTEERS AND CERTAINLY THE CERT TEAM, UM, WE BRING IN A NUMBER OF INPATIENTS FROM BOTH KINGSBRIDGE VA HOSPITAL AND MONTROSE VA HOSPITAL. AND THAT CERT TEAM ALLOWS US TO HELP PEOPLE WITH WHEELCHAIRS THAT ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME, OFTEN ON THEIR SPECIALIZED VEHICLES. AND SO WE REALLY LIKE TO THANK THEM. SO, SO.
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OF COURSE, AND CHRIS TO MENTION THANK YOU LISA.SO WE ALSO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE I SEE BEHIND US. IF YOU SEE WE HAVE THE FLYER FOR THE EVENT. THANK YOU SAM FOR MAKING IT LARGER. THEN PLEASE TAKE A PICTURE OF IT. YOU KNOW, WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE. WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS AND FAMILIES. SO PLEASE COME OUT SEPTEMBER 17TH FROM 430 TO 730 AT, UH, ANTHONY VETERAN PARK. AND WE REALLY WANT TO COME OUT AND SEE YOU. AND AGAIN, UM, I'LL SAY THIS, I DIDN'T GET PERMISSION FROM THE WHOLE BOARD, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, WE TRULY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE.
OKAY. AND WITHOUT FURTHER ELOQUENCE, I'LL LEAVE YOU ALL TO YOUR EVENING. JOE. I'M GOING TO PRESS THE BUTTON. NOW.
PRESS THE BUTTON. THERE YOU GO. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. GOOD NIGHT.
NEXT. UM. HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION.
YOU WANT TO LEAVE THAT? YEAH. THANK YOU. SO, UM, MARIA PORTILLA PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE PROGRAM FOR US TO, UH. SHE WAS GOING TO PRESENT IT TO US, BUT HAD TO LEAVE FOR A FAMILY EMERGENCY. SO WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. DO YOU HAVE ONE, PAUL? DO YOU HAVE A, UH. NO. OKAY. CAN SOMEONE JUST GRAB.
THAT? PUT SHORT? OKAY. UM. SO WE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY ANNOUNCE THE PROGRAM BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SORT OF BE A SURPRISE, BUT WE CERTAINLY WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OCTOBER 14TH, RIGHT BEFORE OUR BOARD MEETING. SO IT WILL START AT 7 P.M.. IT'LL CONCLUDE BY 7:30 P.M. SO THAT WE'LL START OUR REGULAR MEETING. UM, AND WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL SPEAKERS AND HONOREE PLANNED. SO I HOPE EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE IN, UH, OBSERVING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, WHICH RUNS FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH TO AUGUST.
SORRY, TO OCTOBER 15TH. SO WE'RE GETTING IT IN RIGHT UNDER THE WIRE. OKAY. THERE'LL BE SOME MUSICAL ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL. AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THANK, UM, MARIA PORTILLA, WHO'S BEEN, UH, HISPANIC LIAISON, UM, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT SHE'S BEEN DOING IN HER COMMITTEE TO PUT THIS ON.
OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT. UM, UH, SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE. UM, I, UM, BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY THAT THE TOWN SHOULD ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, UM, UM, CLEARING, UM, SNOW FROM THE SIDEWALK THAT IS BEING BUILT ON BAXTER ROAD. IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HAZARDOUS, UM, FOR, UM, FOR RESIDENTS OF TEXT ERODE, UM, TO ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO ON TAX THE ROAD TO CLEAR THE SNOW. AND I THINK IT COULD BE A LIABILITY AND HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. AND ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I MADE WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN DOES CLEAR SIDEWALKS ON HEAVILY TRAFFICKED SIDEWALKS ALREADY. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ON SOME OF THE ESPECIALLY THE NEWER SIDEWALKS THAT ARE BEING BUILT THAT WE COULD SAY TO RESIDENTS THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIND RESIDENTS IF THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T IMMEDIATELY CLEAR THE SIDEWALKS OF SNOW, WE'RE GOING TO JUST WE'LL GET AROUND TO IT USING THE TOWN STAFF WHEN, UM, WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH CLEARING, UH, BUSIER SIDEWALKS.
AND THIS WAY, TOWN ANYTHING ELS WE'RE GOING TO USE EXISTING EMPLOYEES. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, BASICALLY, IT WILL BE A WIN WIN. YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALK IS AN IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. AND IF THE SIDEWALK IS, UH, CLOSED FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER ONE OF THE RARE SNOWSTORMS WE HAVE, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. IT'S JUST CURIOUS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OTHER SIDEWALKS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN? AH, ARE YOU SAYING NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN TO MAINTAIN THOSE THAT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I AGAIN, EVERYONE KNOWS I LIVE ON JUNIPER HILL. I GOT FINED, YOU KNOW, FOR NOT CLEAR MY DRIVEWAY. EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, CLEARING THE SIDEWALKS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES. ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE FAIR TO EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR THE I MEAN, THERE ARE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SIDEWALKS THAT YOU HAVE DONE ON YOUR INITIATIVE, NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY, UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR INITIATIVE IS. BUT FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T SAY, HEY, YES, I WANT TO GO FORWARD AND AGREE TO CLEAR THE SIDEWALKS. SO HOW ARE WE MANAGING THEM? HOW ARE WE BEING FAIR? THAT'S WHY I JUST.
WE., I BASICALLY, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TREAT JUNIPER HILL THE SAME WAY WE'RE TREATING TAX TO THE ROAD. I FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW THAT BASICALLY. JUST JUNIPER HILL. I JUST.
WANT TO BE ON. THE HOOK. IT'S LIKE A.
FULL COMMUNITY AND WE NEED. I JUST USE JUNIPER HILL AS MY, AS AN EXAMPLE. BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THIS IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, IT NEEDS TO BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST TARGETING JUST ONE
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PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. NOT THAT I DON'T THINK I KNOW THAT'S NOT FAIR. ACROSS THE BOARD, FOR EVERYONE WHO YOU KNOW, WHO IS GOING TO BE PENALIZED FOR NOT CLEARING THEIR SIDEWALKS. SO I JUST WANT TO. I JUST.BUT ANYONE. BUT WE BUT WE THAT HAS BEEN THE POLICY FOR ALL THIS TIME. CORRECT.
NO CHANGE IT. RIGHT. SO BUT WE CAN'T JUST WILLY NILLY SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ONE. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ONE. EITHER WE IDENTIFY CERTAIN SIDEWALKS THAT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THEY QUALIFY.
OF COURSE, HEAVILY. USED HAVE USED.
WHICH WE'RE NOT DOING. WE'RE NOT DOING OKAY.
BUT WE GO BACK TO THAT. AND THEN IF TAX TO ROAD QUALIFIES FOR THAT, GREAT. THEN THAT CAN BE DONE. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY. WE CAN'T JUST SAY OKAY, THIS ROAD, THAT ROAD, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT. THAT DOESN'T LET ME.
AND WHAT THE OTHER THING IS, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SIDEWALK DISTRICTS A WHILE AGO, AND AMANDA PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE, UM, PLAN OF WHICH WE REALLY HAVEN'T GONE INTO VERY.
MUCH. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR LIKE, YEARS. AND I REMEMBER PROBABLY 15 OR 20. YEARS AGO. SAY THE SAME THING.
I WAS DRIVING ON ARDSLEY ROAD, UM, NEAR LYNNWOOD ROAD. THERE'S A STEEP HILL, AND I SAW PEOPLE WALKING ON THE ROAD, AND I SAW CARS ALMOST SKIDDING INTO PEDESTRIANS. SO I BASICALLY SUCCESSFULLY ENCOURAGED THE TOWN BOARD TO ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CLEARING THAT SIDEWALK OF SNOW, BECAUSE.
WE ALREADY. SO AGAIN, AND I AND I DON'T AND AGAIN, I PURPOSELY OF MAKING SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THIS TURNING INTO SOME SORT OF ARGUMENT.
IT'S NOT. NO, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DESIGNATE A CERTAIN COMMUNITY, A CERTAIN AREA OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN AIR ROADS, IS THAT GOING TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD? BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FAIR IN EVERY COMMUNITY IN GREENBERG. OKAY, THAT WE THAT WE CLEAN. BUT ALSO, PAUL, THERE'S ALSO A COST TO THAT. SO YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT IS THAT GOING TO COST US TO DO ALL OF THAT. NOW WE'VE WE'VE HAD STAFF COME. WE'VE HAD TO COMMISSIONERS BOTH COME AND SPEAK TO THAT POINT. SO IS THERE ANY HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO THAT. HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE. SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR YOUR ADVOCACY FOR TAX THE ROAD.
BUT AGAIN THAT SAME ADVOCACY HAS TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STREETS. NOW, AS EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED, COUNCILWOMAN HABER MENTIONED, COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN HAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THAT WE HAVE A LIST. TOWN ATTORNEY HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE A LIST THAT WE DESIGNATED FOR HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS. OKAY. SO THAT IS THE LIST WE NEED UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT A PLAN HOW TO DEAL WITH OUTSIDE OF THAT LIST, THEN I THINK THAT IS THE CONVERSATION.
THAT NEEDS TO BE. HAD HERE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN SEPARATE OR SILO OUT ANYONE, ANY COMMUNITY AND HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY PICK UP THE SAME RESPONSIBILITY.
ANOTHER COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE. TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THE TAX DAY ROAD TO ME. AND ALSO JUNIPER HILL. NO, NO.
DON'T PLEASE DON'T SAY PLEASE DON'T SAY.
ALL OF JUNIPER. NO NO NO, I MEAN ALL OF ALL OF GREEN. LET ME JUST ALL OF THE TOWN. LET ME JUST SAY.
LET ME JUST SAY THE TAX THE ROAD AND JUNIPER HILL, IN MY OPINION, ARE UM, ARE BASICALLY SIDEWALKS WHERE I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE HAVE TO SHOVEL AND GO ON ON THE ROAD, BECAUSE I BASICALLY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, TAX THE ROAD IS VERY, YOU KNOW, HEAVILY TRAFFICKED. UM, I FEEL THAT THERE IT'S A IT'S A DANGER TO HAVE PEOPLE, UM, UH, CLEAR THE SNOW FROM THOSE SIDEWALKS. SO I WOULD FEEL THAT, AS I SAID BEFORE, WITHOUT ANY EXTRA COST TO THE TOWN, I'M SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BASICALLY SAY TO RESIDENTS THAT, UH, WHEN IT SNOWS, UH, THIS MAY NOT BE THE FIRST GROUP OF SIDEWALKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLEAR, BUT AFTER THE TOWN STAFF, AFTER THEY FINISH, UH, CLEARING THE SNOW, UM, ON THE MORE HEAVILY USED SIDEWALKS. NO, I'M JUST SAYING THEN I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD BASICALLY THEN DO THEIRS AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THAT THAT SIDEWALK, THOSE SIDEWALKS WILL NOT BE USABLE UNTIL THE TOWN CLEARS.
LET'S SAY, FOR. EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A BIG BLIZZARD, OKAY. AND THEN WE GET A TON OF SNOW AND THE STAFF IS BUSY CLEARING ALL OF THE PLACES THEY ALREADY HAVE TO CLEAR.
THEN THESE CLOSED SIDEWALKS ARE GOING TO BE SITTING FOR WHAT, TEN DAYS? MAYBE TWO DAYS? NO, NO.
IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT TWO DAYS THOUGH. IT'S WAY MORE THAN THAT. WHEN WE HAVE A BIG STREET.
PUTS EVERYBODY INTO THE STREET. WELL, NOBODY'S GOING TO WALK ON A SIDEWALK ONE DAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, THE AVERAGE PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE USE COMMON SENSE. SO BASICALLY IF THERE'S IF THE, IF A, IF A ROAD IS SLIPPERY AND UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF SNOW, PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO USE THE SIDEWALK. MOST OF THESE NEW SIDEWALKS, THEY HAVEN'T THEY, THEY, THEY MIGHT
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BE A YEAR OLD OR JUST BUILT RIGHT NOW. AND UM, AND AGAIN, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, VERY STRONGLY THAT THE TAX ERODE SIDEWALK IS VERY, VERY WOULD BE TOO DANGEROUS SIDEWALK FOR THE TOWN. UH, TO ASK RESIDENTS OF UNINCORPORATED OF OF TAX OR ROAD TO HAVE TO DECLARE, I DON'T WANT TO BE I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY ON THE ROAD REMOVING THE SNOW OR THROWING.THE WINDOW. ON THE ROAD. WHAT? WHY WOULD THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE ROAD? WHAT DO YOU. MEAN, ON THE ROAD? WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT THAT SIDE? WHAT? THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE ROAD WHERE? HILLSIDE, HILLSIDE AVENUE, HILLSIDE AVENUE, RIGHT OVER HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PLOW THEIR OWN. THE SHOVEL, THEIR OWN SIDEWALK. I DON'T BELIEVE.
HILL ROAD. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN SHOULD. I DON'T LIKE THE CURRENT, UH, YOU KNOW, SYSTEM.
SO I'M, I'M I'M SAYING, YOU. KNOW, I HAVEN'T EVEN AN EASY SOLUTION. YOU'RE ABOUT TO PUT TOGETHER YOUR BUDGET, RIGHT? FOR NEXT YEAR, WORK INTO YOUR BUDGET. HOW WE CAN HAVE THE TOWN SHOVEL THE HEAVILY USED ROADS AND.
YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT. THAT'S FINE. I'M GOING TO DO I'M PLANNING TO DO THAT. AND I'M GOING TO TELL THE RESIDENTS OF TAX ZERO THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEARING THE SNOW. BECAUSE I'M.
BUT THE. LAW SAYS, NO, BUT I'M GOING TO NEED TO. YOU JUST SAID YOU HAVE A SOLUTION, SO.
ARE YOU OKAY? WHAT ARE YOU OKAY? YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS. SO.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU NEED TO START.
AN ARGUMENT. WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
NO NO NO NO NO NO. NO NO. IT'S JUST YOU WERE INTERRUPTING ME, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW SOMEHOW TAX THE ROAD IS DIFFERENT. I COULD ASK YOU THE QUESTION. WHICH WHICH SIDEWALK? NEW OR OLD. IN FAIRVIEW, THE TOWN SHOVELS. THE ANSWER IS NONE. NONE. YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING IT FOR HILLSIDE AVENUE. YOU DON'T THINK HILLSIDE AVENUE IS HEAVILY TRAFFICKED? JUNIPER HILL ROAD, DOBBS, DOBBS, DOBBS FERRY ROAD. SO THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT ARE ON A LIST THAT'S CALLED HEAVILY USED ROADS. THEY'RE CALLED THAT FOR A REASON. SO IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT IS FAIR TO EVERYONE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THERE'S AN EQUAL PROTECTION ISSUE GOING ON. WE'RE SHOVELING SOME SIDEWALKS FOR SOME RESIDENTS, SOME PROMINENT, AND WE'RE NOT DOING IT FOR OTHER RESIDENTS ON OTHER STREETS. RIGHT. SO WE NEED WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? HOW IS THAT ALLOWED? AND YES, WE VOTED FOR DOING COLUMBIA. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO SET A TREND WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK IN TO WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE COST OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO MAINTAIN IT. AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. BUT NOW WE'RE BACK TO EAST IRVINGTON, AND NOW YOU SAY, OH, THAT ROAD. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO STAND IN THE STREET TO SHOVEL THE SIDEWALK. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO STANDS IN THE STREET TO SHOVEL THEIR SIDEWALK. YOU STAND ON THE.
SIDEWALK. AS YOU'RE GOING ALONG.
AND I ASK THIS QUESTION, IS THERE A CRITERIA FOR WHAT GOES ON TO THE LIST OF HEAVILY TRAFFICKED ROADS? WHAT IS THE CRITERIA. FOR THE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED HEAVILY? WELL, NO, BUT THAT'S ALSO, UH, SUBJECTIVE. WELL, IT'S BEEN THEN. IT'S SUBJECTIVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. IT'S BEEN IN OUR CODE.
COLUMBIA IS NOT ON THERE, FOR EXAMPLE. AND WE IT'S NOT ON THAT LIST. AND YET WE SHOVEL THAT. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO UNIFORMITY IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND WE NEED UNIFORMITY.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE TAX TO ROAD WILL QUALIFY FOR BEING TAX. THE ROAD IS A.
HEAVILY TAX. AND THERE'S NOT. SO WHY IS THERE AN ISSUE. IT JUST GOES ON.
WE CAN'T SAY NO. BUT BECAUSE HE HAS TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET AND OUR STAFF. IS.
SAYING. NO, I'M JUST TALKING TO YOU.
I'M SAYING IF A A ROAD IF WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS IN THE PAST, WE HAVE A LIST OF HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS. AND TAXER ROAD IS ONE OF THEM. THEN PRESUMABLY IT WILL BE ON THAT LIST.
I'M GOING TO BASICALLY PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, AND I'M GOING TO TELL RESIDENTS OF EAST IRVINGTON, THAT IS PROBABLY WE'RE GOING TO BE ASSUMING THE RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE I'M PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET. UNLESS THE TOWN BOARD TAKES.
IT OUT. NO, NO, NO. SO CAN YOU PLEASE PUT. HOLD ON.
I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU PLEASE PUT IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THAT THE SAME FOR FAIRVIEW, THE SAME FOR HARTSDALE, THE SAME FOR EDGEMONT AND ALL THE OTHER ROADS. BECAUSE WE SHOULD NOT BE SEPARATING OUT DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. WE ARE ONE COMMUNITY. SO IF EAST, EAST, OR EVEN EAST, IRVINGTON DOES NOT HAVE TO, UH, TO SHOVEL THEIR TO SHOVEL THE SIDEWALKS, THEN NEITHER SHOULD FAIRVIEW.
NEITHER SHOULD HARTSDALE OR EDGEMONT. EVERYONE SHOULD BE TREATED FAIRLY IN THE SAME WAY. SO ARE THERE WAYS? NO NO NO NO NO WAIT, WAIT. ARE THERE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED ROADS IN FAIRVIEW RIGHT NOW THAT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST? YES. OKAY, SO WE SHOULD LOOK.
AT THERE. OH, NO, THEY'RE ON THE LIST. THEY'RE JUST NOT SHOVEL. THEY'RE NOT SHOVEL.
THE TOWN DOESN'T SHOVEL THEM. SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION. THIS IS A THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. THIS IS A GOOD SUGGESTION.
THIS IS A ROAD. THIS IS. BUT WE'RE NOT SHOVELING THEM.
THIS IS A GOOD SUGGESTION. WHY DON'T WE ASK FRANK MORABITO TO COME TO THE TOWN BOARD? WE NEVER ACTUALLY HEAR THE END
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OF A LIKE A, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS JUMPS INTO WHATEVER EVERYONE ELSE. WANTS BECAUSE THERE IS NO.PORTION OF OUR TOWN CODE WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO DO PLOWING AND SHOVELING ON THESE HEAVILY USED ROADS. THEY'RE IN OUR CODE FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE, RIGHT? THERE ARE 22 ROADS. KENT COULDN'T TELL YOU WHERE EVERY ROAD IS AT THIS MOMENT. WE COULD WE COULD MAKE A LIST. BUT YES, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT IN THE TOWN CODE IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THE BOARD WAS.
WELL, LET ME ASK A QUESTION. MY FEELING IS THAT YOU ASKED FOR A BUDGET. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD INVITE FRANK MORABITO TO COME TO THE TOWN BOARD MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. AND BASICALLY, WE SHOULD ITEMIZE THIS. YES. I'M SORRY. WHY CAN'T YOU.
WHY CAN'T YOU? NO, NO, PAUL, I'LL JUST.
HAVE IT. NO, I HAVE A SUGGESTION. I'M NOT FIGHTING WITH YOU. WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE.
HOLD ON? WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE WITH THE COMMISSIONER, THEN COME BACK AND REPORT TO EVERYBODY TO SAY IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE.
WHY DOES HE HAVE TO WHY DON'T YOU JUST.
HAVE THAT AND THEN YOU AND THE YOU CAN REPORT.
BACK TO FRANK, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK. BUT I THINK THAT BASICALLY IF HE HEARS THAT THERE'S A CONSENSUS OF ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NOW ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY, THE TOWN FOR HEAVILY. I DIDN'T SAY THAT. I SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT INTO YOUR BUDGET AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S FEASIBLE. KNOW IF.
WE. CAN AFFORD IT. LISTEN, WE FOR THAT, THERE'S A $100 MILLION SHORTFALL IN OUR BUDGET. WE KNOW THAT FROM.
THE REPORT. FORGET IT. IF YOU.
LISTEN, THIS IS SERIOUS. SO WE HAVE A DEFICIT. BUT IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND GET THE BACK TAXES COLLECTED, WE'RE GETTING DEEPER AND DEEPER IN THERE MORE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IS YOU SAY THE SAME THING EVERY WEEK, REPEATING AND REPEATING AND REPEATING. I'M SAYING.
INTERRUPT YOU STUFF ON THE REFORMS AND REPORTS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A BROKEN RECORD ALREADY.
IF THE AGENDA. I TELL YOU, OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON. I DON'T WANT YOU TO MISQUOTE ME. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THIS BASED ON $100 MILLION SHORTFALL, BUT IF YOU THINK WE CAN PUT IT INTO YOUR BUDGET, WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT DOES. WITH THE TAX INCREASE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE'S GOT TO BE EQUITY ACROSS ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND WHO WHO SIDEWALKS GET PLOWED. AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE HEAVILY USED ROADS, LET IT BE HEAVILY.
USED ROADS. SO LET'S PUT THAT. CAN BE.
THEN YOUR BUDGET, THE HEAVILY USED ROADS GO IN THE BUDGET.
THE 20 LIST OF 22 NOW 23 DISAGREEMENT.
GOOD. OH HELLO EVERYONE. THIS IS GARY TODAY. JUST A QUICK ONE CLARIFICATION SO HEAVILY TRAFFIC ROADS IS A CODIFIED TERM IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND INDEED THERE'S 22 ROADS ON THERE. I JUST WANT THE BOARD TO BE AWARE THAT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE NEW YORK STATE ROADWAYS. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ROADS SUCH AS HILLSIDE AVENUE, UH, DOBBS FERRY ROAD, UM, SOON TO BE WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, WHERE OVER 6000 LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALK WILL BE BUILT. UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BUT NOT CODIFIED AS SUCH BECAUSE THEY'RE STATE ROADS. SO I JUST FOR THE BOARD'S, UM, FUTURE CONSIDERATION, WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT DISTINCTION THAT, UM, THOSE STATE ROADS, MANY OF THEM HAVE TRAITS WHERE THEY'RE FRONTED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. YOU MAY WANT TO DISTINGUISH CENTRAL AVENUE AS AN EXAMPLE, WHICH HAS COMMERCIALLY FRONTING PROPERTIES AND NOT INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR SNOW SHOVELING POLICY. BUT MANY OF THE STATE ROADS THAT I JUST MENTIONED, HILLSIDE, DOBBS FERRY ROAD, UH, KNOLLWOOD ROAD, WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UH, ARE VERY MUCH FRONTED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL STUFF TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, PAUL, WHEN YOU DO, YOUR BUDGET IS ALL THE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONER JUST SHARED WITH US IN TERMS OF WHICH ROADS WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT, WHICH ONES WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATE FOR THE NEW YOUR NEW PLAN. WELL, I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE GOOD NEWS TO THE RESIDENTS OF TAX, THE ROAD THAT I THINK WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE.
IT HAPPEN TO EVERYBODY ELSE. WHAT ABOUT THE OLDER.
RESIDENTS, THE NEW SIDEWALK. AND I FEEL.
THAT ONE ON. BECAUSE A NEW SIDEWALK. AND I THINK THAT THERE WERE REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY YOU, UM, YOU YOU WERE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE OVER A YEAR AGO SAYING THAT YOU FELT THAT RESIDENTS OF TAX ERODE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CLEARING THE ROAD OF SORT, A CLEARING THE SIDEWALK OF SNOW. AT THE TIME WE WERE DISCUSSING IT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU SHOWED THE YOU WERE EMPATHETIC TO RESIDENTS OF EAST IRVINGTON AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED THE SIDEWALK AND SUPPORTED IT BECAUSE OF, UH, UH, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTARY BEFORE THE SIDEWALK WAS ACTUALLY, UM, APPROVED. UM. I AGREE 100% WITH YOU, PAUL. I DID THAT, AND I SAID, OH, HEAVILY USED ROADS. AND THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD A FORENSIC REPORT THAT SHOWED THAT THERE
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WERE $100 MILLION IN THE HOLE. SO I WOULD FULLY BE COMMITTED TO SAYING WHAT I SAID BEFORE IF WE COULD AFFORD IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. NOW, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THE HEAVILY USED ROADS AND INCLUDE IN THERE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO PEOPLE THAT ARE ON A STATE ROAD THAT THEY ARE OUR RESIDENTS. THEY'RE PAYING THE SAME TAXES AS EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE SHOVELING THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE TOWN ROADS AND NOT ON THE THE STATE ROADS. AND THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE TO SHOVEL THEIR, THEIR SIDEWALKS IS BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS, JUST LIKE THE TOWN SAYS, THE HOMEOWNER OR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING IT.IT'S THE SAME, SAME WORDING. OKAY, WELL, FOR THE STATE, WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE I'M PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET AND IT'S A PRIORITY OF MINE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE.
MADE SO BUT SO I JUST WANT TO SAY SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN A BUDGET, ARE YOU PUTTING A BUDGET FOR ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT THE NEW. SIDEWALKS THAT.
HAVE HEAVILY TRAFFIC? UH, SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO. BE I JUST WANT NO, I JUST WANTED TO. I JUST. NOT KNOW, GUYS, I JUST WANT I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE I'M.
CLEAR, OKAY? OKAY. AND I'LL MEET WITH, UM, THE COMMISSIONER, AND I'LL. MAYBE GARRETT COULD ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, AND WE'LL COME UP WITH, UM.
SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE YOU. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE CONTROLLER, TOO. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE FUNDING BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT MONEY'S AVAILABLE.
THIS IS A PRIORITY. I THINK THIS IS SAFETY IS PUBLIC SAFETY IS A PRIORITY. AND I FEEL THAT, UM, UH, HAVING MORE SIDEWALKS IS A PRIORITY. AND, UM, REDUCING THE ANXIETY AND OPPOSITION TO NEW SIDEWALKS IS ALSO A PRIORITY. SO TO ME, UM, THIS IS ON THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST RATHER THAN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PRIORITY LIST. OKAY, OKAY. NEXT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. YOUR UPDATE.
LET'S SEE THE COURTHOUSE BUILDING. UM, COURTHOUSE, POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING UPDATE IN TERMS OF, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, UM, JOE, WE HAD THE HEARING TODAY WITH THE EDGEMONT INCORPORATION. YES. OKAY. SO, UM, THE THE APPELLATE DIVISION OF THE COURT OF APPEALS, THE APPELLATE DIVISION OF THE STATE SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO BE, UM, UH, RULING ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PETITION SUFFICIENCY. SO I CAN'T SEE HOW WE COULD PROCEED WITH, UM, A POLICE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING WHERE A NEW BUILDING FOR THE POLICE UNTIL AFTER, UH, WE GET A DECISION BY, UM, BY THE THE APPELLATE DIVISION BECAUSE, UM, WE DON'T KNOW, UM, HOW AN ADJOURNMENT INCORPORATION IS GOING TO IMPACT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN AND THE TOWN FINANCES.
AND ALSO, WE DON'T KNOW, UM, HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. UH, IF EDGEMONT DOES HAVE A REFERENDUM AND THEY DECIDE TO BREAK AWAY, THEY MAY DECIDE TO HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN USE A GREENBURG.
YOU WERE LOOKING INTO INFORMATION ABOUT A COURTHOUSE.
COURTHOUSE? NO. NO NO, WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE COURTHOUSE, YOU JUST SAID THAT ABOUT EDGEMONT INCORPORATION. BUT DO WE UNDERSTAND? REGARDLESS IF THEY INCORPORATE OR REGARDLESS OF THEIR INCORPORATE OR NOT, THAT COURTHOUSE STILL HAS CHALLENGE.
I MEAN, THAT POLICE, THE POLICE STATION STILL HAS CHALLENGES.
SO EITHER WAY, THIS COURTHOUSE, THIS I KEEP SAYING COURTHOUSE.
I'M SORRY, THE POLICE STATION NEEDS TO BE. WE NEED A NEW POLICE. STATION, NOT A NEW REGARD FOR THE PAW PAW. PAW PAW. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. HERE. YOU HAVE WHAT YOU DID. THE WALK THROUGH. WE HAVE DID TO WALK THROUGH. WE HAVE TONS AND TONS AND TONS AND TONS OF CONVERSATION. WE HAVE TONS AND TONS OF DOCUMENTS SHOWING WHERE WE ARE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH THE POLICE STATION. WE HAVE HAD STAFF FROM THE POLICE STATION COME. WE'VE HAD THE CHIEF FROM THE POLICE STATION COME. SO WE CANNOT JUST DISCOUNT REGARDLESS IF EDGEMONT, EDGEMONT BREAKS AWAY OR NOT, WE STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CURRENT POLICE STATION THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT I'M NOT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR.
WHAT DO I GO BACK AS THE LIAISON TO TELL THEM? AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE SUPERVISOR HAS, HAS IN PLACE OR HAS PLANNED? THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO TELL ME THAT I HAVE A PLAN. JUST TELL ME THAT SO I CAN GO BACK AND TELL THEM. TO THE POLICE CHIEF. ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR OR SO. I'M GOING TO BE MEETING WITH HIM AGAIN. AND I TOLD HIM THAT THE PROPOSAL THAT THE CONSULTANTS, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED I'M TOTALLY AGAINST. I THINK IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO ALONG WITH IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, I ALSO INDICATED THAT I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE ADA IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BASIC REPAIRS, AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE COURTHOUSE TO MOVE. NO NO NO NO, NO, STAY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE BECAUSE IT'S PART OF IT. MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE COURTHOUSE TO MOVE OUT OF THE EXISTING FACILITY AND TO A NEW LOCATION, AND THEN TO GIVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE, BUILDING.
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UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD RENOVATE, UM, AT A COST THAT'S MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE. THE, THE, THE EXISTING POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO WE COULD UPDATE THE WIRING DEAL WITH THE ADA, UH. THE PARKING LOT.LET ME SAY YOU'RE INTERPRETING. THE PART. AND THEN I MET WITH FRANK MORABITO. UM, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND HE'S HELPED IDENTIFY POTENTIAL LOCATIONS. UM, ON 119, UM, THAT COULD BE USED FOR A COURTHOUSE. THESE ARE ABANDONED. UM, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES. SO WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS, UM, AND WHEN I SPOKE TO FRANK AND I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXCELLENT IDEA, UM, I THOUGHT THAT, UM, WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO A REALTOR, UM, OR A REALTOR? NO, LET ME.
TELL. YOU, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOR A FEE. AND BASICALLY ASK THEM TO HELP US. OR WE COULD ASK SOME. WELL, WE'VE.
DONE THIS ALREADY. YOU KNOW, INSTEAD.
OF YELLING, I'M MAYBE. JUST SAYING, LET ME SAY WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE REACH OUT TO COMMERCIAL REALTORS, UM, AND OR MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXISTING, UM, AN EXISTING. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVE ARRANGEMENTS WITH REALTORS. WE COULD SAY WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXISTING VACANT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO MOVE A POLICE, A COURTHOUSE TO A 1500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. SO HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE SIX YEARS AGO? BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT.
WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. PAUL, LET ME JUST FINISH.
REALLY QUICKLY. NO. HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HAPPENED SIX YEARS AGO? WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, WE HAD ALL THOSE MEETINGS OVER.
WITH YOUR HIRED. A FIRM? WE HIRED A FIRM, YEAH.
AND WE PAID $75,000, I REMEMBER, SO HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT? SO WHY CAN'T WE TAKE THAT DATA THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR AND WE KNOW IT'S OUT THERE. WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR.
WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN THAT. WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED. WHY DO WE KEEP REINVENTING THE WHEEL? BECAUSE WHY CAN'T WE JUST WHY IT'S SO FRUSTRATING THAT EVERY TIME THAT I SEE, I SEE THE OFFICERS I SEE I SEE THE PBA PRESIDENT AND THEY'RE ASKING WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE POLICE STATION, UNDERSTANDING THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN. THAT'S NOT FAIR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK IN THOSE CONDITIONS. WE DON'T WORK IN THOSE CONDITIONS. WHY ARE WE SUBJECTING THEM TO WORK IN THOSE CONDITIONS? BECAUSE BASICALLY. AND THEN AND THEN AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE CHALLENGES, IF, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, ANYONE COMING VISITING OUR POLICE STATION JUST CHALLENGE IS.
THERE BECAUSE. YOUR SAFETY ISSUES THERE. SO I JUST I JUST WANT YOU TO TELL ME WHAT WHAT WHAT MONIES ARE WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOWARD THE POLICE STATION, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONIES THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD IN THE PAST.
OKAY. WELL, BASICALLY, IN TERMS OF THE POLICE, UM, A LOT IN MY OPINION, OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO DEPEND ON WHETHER EDGEMONT STAYS OR DOESN'T STAY, BECAUSE BASICALLY, IF THEY, UM, IF THEY DO BREAK AWAY, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO AS MUCH FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS AS. I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
NO. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVEN LESS. SO THE THING IS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO BASIC REPAIR. IT'S BASICALLY REPAIRS. AND ADA, IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE LIMITED IF EDGEMONT DOESN'T BREAK AWAY, THEN THE TOWN WILL BE WILL ALL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO SOMETHING MUCH BETTER. AND I'M HOPEFUL. I'M HOPEFUL. I'M HOPEFUL.
THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS OF EDGEMONT WILL REALIZE THAT IT'S IN THEIR INTEREST NOT TO BREAK AWAY AS WELL. UM, THE SECOND THING THAT I ALSO FAIL IS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE COURTHOUSE, I THINK WE COULD BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE A BUDGET AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IN THE B BUDGET.
SO THE COURTHOUSE IS, UM, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD USE A 7.4 MILLION THAT THE TOWN BOARD RESERVED. WE ONLY RESERVED 7.4 MILLION. THAT COULD EXCLUSIVELY BE USED FOR THE COURTHOUSE. WE HAVE THAT IN CASH. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD FIND AN EXISTING BUILDING. UM. UM, AND, AND BASICALLY AVOID HAVING TO GO TO THE BOND MARKET. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
UM, AND IF MAYBE WHAT THE BOARD COULD DO IS, UH, WHAT, UM, UM, REACH OUT TO, UM, COMMERCIAL REALTORS TO HELP US LOCATE, UM, 15,000FT OF SPACE. UM, AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UH, IN A LIMITED TIME, WE COULD, I COULD PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND THEN WE COULD, WE COULD HOPEFULLY MOVE THE COURTHOUSE OUT OF THE EXISTING FACILITY.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A YEAR. UM, AND THEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, BOTH BUILDINGS, UM, THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE AND THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. AND TO ME, THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE AND HAVE THE MORE AND AND GET, YOU KNOW, THE MOST THE MOST SUPPORT FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU GAVE IF WE PURSUE THAT, WE COULD WE COULD IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY WOULD
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BE GETTING THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE BUILDING THAT THEY COULD RENOVATE AND USE FOR POLICE PURPOSES, AND THEY WOULD GET THE EXISTING, UH, POLICE HEADQUARTERS. AND WE COULD WE COULD SPEND SOME MONEY RENOVATING THAT. AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF GREENBERG WOULD SUPPORT THAT. THE RESIDENTS OF GREENBERG ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT $100 MILLION OR 50 MILLION OR $60 MILLION. UM, YOU KNOW, REFERENDUM, I'M SURE OF THAT. SO WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? UH, REACH OUT TO THE REALTORS. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DIDN'T DO THAT. AS SOON AS THE IDEA CAME UP TO YOU, REACH OUT TO THE REALTORS AND REPORT BACK TO US IN TWO WEEKS WHETHER OR NOT THEY. THINK THEY ASKED A QUESTION. SO AM I AUTHORIZED OR COULD WE, AS A BOARD? UM, UH, PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.? NO, NO. NO, NO, I'M.I'M ASKING CAN WE MAKE. BECAUSE BASICALLY I WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT, THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS EFFORT AND BASICALLY THAT THE BOARD IS, IS COMMITTED TO TO THIS. AND I WILL WORK WITH. WELL.
WE'VE BEEN COMMITTED WE'VE. BEEN SHOWING THAT WE WE'VE.
BEEN. BEGINNING WE CAN SHOW THAT'S WHY WE VOTED. THAT'S WHY WE VOTED FOR 49, 39 MILLION. THIS IS WHY WE'RE FRUSTRATED.
AS FAR AS WHAT'S THE. NEXT WHAT'S THE NEXT PLAN? BECAUSE NANA, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY THAT WE VOTED ON.
TO HAVE. SO THEN NO PAUL. BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS. SO NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TELL OUR STAFF? WE HAVE CHALLENGES SAYING, I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS. I DO UNDERSTAND ON THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, I DO. UNDERSTAND, AND I'M COMING UP WITH AN AFFORDABLE PLAN THAT. IS DOABLE.
YOU KEEP INTERRUPTING AND THEN I'M BLAMED FOR BEING DISRESPECTFUL. SO LET'S LET'S TAKE IT BACK. WHO'S BEING DISRESPECTFUL? NOW? WE'VE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION TIME AND TIME AGAIN. EVERY. WE KEEP REPEATING OURSELVES. SO WHAT I KEEP ASKING FOR AND YOU KEEP SAYING, OH, THE POLICE CAN TAKE THIS OR WE CAN HAVE THAT. WE'VE ALREADY SPENT SO MUCH MONEY ON THIS EFFORT. SO HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPENDING MONEY ON THIS EFFORT? WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE HAD THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY. THIS IS WHAT THE TOTAL BOARD APPROVED. WHY CAN'T WE UTILIZE AND GO FORWARD? BECAUSE YOU KEEP TELLING US THAT WE'RE JUST FOCUSING ON A COURTHOUSE. IT'S NOT JUST A COURTHOUSE.
NO. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. SO I KNOW YOU YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR MIND THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE. BUT WE HAVE JUDGES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR YEARS BEFORE I EVEN GOT ON THE BOARD. THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN, THE TEMPORARY, THE TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS, THAT'S THEIR THAT'S ALMOST THEIR, THEY'RE PERMANENT. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND AND THEN YOU KNOW, YOU FULLY KNOW AS A TOWN SUPERVISOR THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACED AT THAT POLICE STATION. SO FOR US TO ACT LIKE IT'S JUST NOTHING, IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, WE JUST GO, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE AND WE GET A NEW BUILDING AND WE PUT SOME PAINT AND THEN WE PUT A LITTLE NICE TILE DOWN AND WE'LL BE GOOD. NO, THERE ARE COMPLIANCE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE MEET. SO IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND. SO WHEN WE ARE ADAMANT AND KEEP HAVING THESE THESE DISCUSSIONS BACK AND FORTH, AND WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT AND AND AND REALLY SHOWING, GOING, TRYING TO DRIVE THIS POINT HOME AS TO REALLY THE TRUE, THE TRUE UM, ISSUE OF REALLY OF BOTH BUILDINGS HERE. WE CAN'T JUST PUSH IT UNDER THE RUG. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A BUDGET OR BE BUDGET. WE HAVE ISSUES IN BOTH BUDGETS, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THAT. AND THAT'S ALL. THIS IS NOT A FIGHT. THIS IS NOT COMING BACK AND FORTH. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND AND THAT WE'RE CLEAR. SO YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM THE JUDGES, AND YOU HEARD IT FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE. WE HAVE CHALLENGES. I HAVE A GREAT PLAN. AND, AND AND I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE REALTORS TOMORROW.
THAT'D BE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. NEXT AGENDA REVIEW. SO LET'S PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR TWO WEEKS. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ON AGENDA FOR TWO WEEKS. HE'S GOING TO HAVE AN UPDATE.
UM, I HAD SENT THE BOARD A MEMO, UM, SAYING THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE EVERY, UM, NON-COMPETITIVE BID. UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EMERGENCY BIDS TO BE POSTED ON ON ALL FUTURE, UM, UH, AGENDAS. UH, WELL, THE ANY WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, WHETHER IT'S A WATER MAIN BREAK OR A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT, ANYTHING THAT THAT WE HIRED, UM, OUR EMERGENCY CONTRACTORS TO DO TO HAVE IT ITEMIZED, UM, AND PUT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, EACH AGENDA.
UM, SO THE PUBLIC COULD SEE THAT, UH, WE'RE ONLY DOING EMERGENCIES WHEN THEY ARE EMERGENCIES. AND I THOUGHT THAT THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, I KNOW ELLEN SAID SHE LIKED IT.
I THINK. JOEY, YOU SAID YOU LIKE THAT IDEA. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS WAY, IT'S TRANSPARENCY.
IT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT. IT'S A DEFINITION.
IT COULD BE SENT DOWN TO YOUR OFFICE, AND.
THEN YOU CAN PUT. YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHO WHICH ARE THESE NON BID PROJECTS BECAUSE YOU KEPT SAYING THAT THE STAR STILL AVENUE IS NOT BID AND DELAYED THAT PROJECT. BUT THE LAWSUIT WITHDRAWN. THEY LOST IN COURT
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TWICE. BUT YOU KEEP SAYING AND YOU PUT IN SOME EMAIL. UH WILL WILL PUT ON THE AGENDA ALL NON BID. THAT PROJECT WAS BID.OTHER EMERGENCY PROJECTS WERE BID. THEY JUST HAVE TO BID ON THAT EMERGENCY CONTRACT WHEN IT COMES OUT.
SO LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO UH HAVE ON FUTURE AGENDAS. UH, SO WE'RE NOT GOING INTO SEMANTICS IS SOMETHING THAT SAYS EMERGENCY CONTRACT.
THE LAST ONE. RIGHT. SO JUST BASICALLY SO WE WE'RE JUST SPECIFYING, UM, SO IF THERE'S A FOR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROME BROOK PARK, THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY, UH, CONTRACT. SO I WOULD SAY, UH, RUN BROOK PARK, UM, UH, $500,000, WHATEVER IT WAS. AND THEN IT SAYS THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PAYING THEM, AND THEN THE PUBLIC COULD SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WE'RE USING EMERGENCY CONTRACTS, ABUSING IT, THAT THEN THEY OR IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY COULD THEY COULD ASK. AND I FEEL THAT THAT WOULD BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT. UH, IT WOULD REDUCE A LOT OF THE CONTROVERSY OVER THE EMERGENCY CONTRACTS. IT'S TRANSPARENCY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, TO ME, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A REALLY POSITIVE STEP, UH, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THINGS ARE BEING DONE IMPROPERLY. I'M JUST SAYING GOING FORWARD, IT'S IT WOULD BE A BIG, UM, OPEN GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY, POSITIVE INITIATIVE. SO COULD THAT BE DONE? UM, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW, OR WE COULD START IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANY URGENCY? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY EMERGENCY CONTRACTS IN. THE PAST WEEK.
DID YOU TALK TO. THE COMMISSIONER? BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE COULD ASK HIM TO PRESENT IT TO US EACH AT EACH MEETING. AND, WELL.
I'VE NEVER. I'VE THEY COME OUT ON A NIGHTS NOTICE AND YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT THIS ON IN ADVANCE. THEY TELL US WHAT THEY DID.
YEAH. AND IT'S NOT IT WOULDN'T BE. IT BASICALLY IS. I WOULD JUST SAY IT WOULD BE LIKE THE PRESENTATION UNDER PRESENT AFTER PRESENTATIONS. WE COULD SAY EMERGENCY CONTRACTS. SINCE THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING. AND THEN I COULD SAY, UM, UH, RUN BROOK PARK. UH, THERE WAS A BREAK AND A PIPE, UH, OF COURSE, ABOUT $300,000, $300,000. THEN THEY COULD SAY, UM, EMERGENCY CONTRACT CONTINUING EAST HARTSDALE. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. NO EMERGENCY CONTRACT. WATER MAIN BREAK. SO THERE'D BE A IT COULD BE FIVE THINGS. IT COULD BE SIX THINGS. IT COULD BE NOTHING. THIS WAY EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE USING. AND THE.
CONTRACT PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA. WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT IT? HOW IS IT? SOMEWHERE ON THE WEBSITE? I DON'T LIKE THAT. WHY? BECAUSE. BECAUSE BASICALLY THE WEBSITE IS, IS HAS BECOME GARBAGE.
IT'S GO INTO THAT. BUT YES, I HEAR.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. TO FILL.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SEE AND AND YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
EMERGENCY CONTRACTS FOR. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL START THAT. UM, WELL.
I THINK I THINK IT NEEDS DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY ZEROING IN ON A PARTICULAR EMERGENCY CONTRACTOR. I'D LIKE TO KNOW. ANY EMERGENCY OR OTHER EMERGENCY.
ANY EMERGENCY CONTRACTS, ANY EMERGENCY. I'M NOT. YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, THE WORK THAT THE CONTRACTOR WE USE, I THINK HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB. YOU KNOW, I DID IT. I DON'T HAVE COMPLAINTS WITH, UH, THE COMPLAINTS I'VE HAD WAS RELATING TO COMPETITIVE BIDDING. THE NOT THE NOT THE QUALITY OF THE WORK. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT LOOKING TO, UM, TO BLAME ANYBODY OR TO POINT FINGERS OR TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M BASICALLY LOOKING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY CONTRACTS ARE BASICALLY BEING USED FOR EMERGENCIES. I HAD GOTTEN A CALL FROM THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY COUNCIL LAST WEEK, AND THEY WERE UPSET THAT, THEY THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA, AND IT WASN'T THE LOWEST BID. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY WERE MENTIONING, OH, YOU KNOW, THEY THINK THAT THE EMERGENCY CONTRACTS HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT. UM, YOU KNOW, FURTHER. AND THEY WERE NO.
THEY TOWN ATTORNEY LOOKS AT. I'M VERY CAREFUL. YEAH. NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO.
THE TIME. THAT'S WHO WE PAY TO. LOOK AT THOSE. OKAY. WELL BUT.
SUPPOSING I, UH, SHOWING UP AT COURT HAD NO EFFECT ON THE CASE, WE WOULD HAVE WON ANYWAY. SUPPOSEDLY, BUT THAT'S RIDICULOUS. OKAY, WELL, I MEAN, WE GOT WE GOT TO GIVE CREDIT TO JUST THAT.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S FINE. SO THEN I WILL SPEAK TO FRANK MORABITO AND ASK HIM IF HE COULD GIVE US A LIST OF ALL THE EMERGENCY CONTRACTS EVERY, UH, BEFORE EVERY MEETING. AND WE'LL
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MAKE THAT. YOU MEAN EMERGENCY ISSUES? INCIDENTS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? EMERGENCY. EMERGENCY? UH, COULD YOU KEEP PROJECT CONTRACT.AND EMERGENCY PROJECTS? ACCIDENTS? YEAH.
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO COINCIDENCE. SO THERE'S IT'S SO. CONSTANTS ARE IN PLACE ALREADY.
PLACE WITH. CAUSE IT'S BEEN. THAT'S WHEN THERE'S AN INCIDENT AND WE HAVE TO USE IT. THAT'S WHEN THE INFORMATION YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO HAVE ON THE WEBSITE OR ON THE AGENDA. YEAH. AT SOME POINT THE AGENDA IS NOT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A JOURNAL. IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST PAGE IS ALMOST ENTIRELY TAKEN UP WITH, YOU KNOW, PROPER BEHAVIOR AT A MEETING. I NOW, YOU WANT TO ADD THERE CAN BE LOTS OF CALL OUTS ON AN EMERGENCY. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF SOMEBODY WAS CALLED OUT IN AN EMERGENCY AT THE. AT.
THE, AT THE CHICK FIL A, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE THE OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING AGENDA. NOW THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDENDUM. I LIKE JOY'S IDEA. WE HAVE IT ON A WEBSITE. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GET MORE TRANSPARENT THAN PUTTING.
UP PEOPLE. DON'T LOOK AT IT BECAUSE BASICALLY IT'S BECAUSE YOU DESTROY THE WEBSITE AS IS IS SO HORRIBLE AND BASICALLY IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOBODY IS LOOKING AT IT ANYMORE.
I DON'T KNOW, WE COULD ASK JOE TO, YOU KNOW, JOE KNOWS HOW MANY CLICKS IT GETS. WE COULD. HAVE TO GO WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF. BASICALLY IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT, A NICE JOKE.
SO WHY DON'T WE. SO WHY DON'T. SO OKAY, SO WE CAN PUT.
A PLAN. GREAT JOB. SO WHY DON'T WE PUT IT? WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE WEBSITE. ALL OF US. ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY AROUND THIS TABLE, HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED ABOUT HOW THE WEBSITE IS, IS CURRENTLY, NOW. SO WHY DO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE FIX THAT? SO INSTEAD OF BLAMING AND SAYING IT'S HORRIBLE, IT'S HORRIBLE, LET'S COME TO THAT. COME TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY AND FIGURE WHO WE'RE WHO WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN, WHO WE'RE GOING TO. ASK TO. WE CHANGE TO CHANGE.
WE THOUGHT WE DID THAT WHEN WE GOT THE NEW WEBSITE.
BUT WELL, APPARENTLY. WELL, WE'VE HEARD WELL, I DON'T I PARTICULARLY I PERSONALLY I'LL SPEAK FOR I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF I FINALLY I FIND THE WEBSITE CHALLENGING. I DON'T FIND A USER FRIENDLY. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. SO WE JUST NEED TO GET SOMEONE IN HERE WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW TO DISPLAY IMPORTANT INFORMATION. WELL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT. WE DO HAVE THAT. WE CHRIS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH STEVE GOLDBERG ON A PLAN, AND I WOULD BE GREAT FOR THAT. WHO'S THAT? STEVE GOLDBERG. HE'S LIKE THE HARTSDALE DOWNTOWN ADVOCATE, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER GUY. SO WE WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH HIM. NO.
OH, I'M JUST ASKING. NO. NO, NO, THAT'S HE'S.
HERE. YEAH. HE HAS PROPOSED SOME DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, READJUSTMENTS. SO I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE HIM HAVE HIM COME TELL, FORGIVE, GET HIS FEEDBACK. HE'S DONE THIS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS. HE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND SEE WHAT WHAT HE THINKS OR HOW HE COULD HELP WITHOUT MAYBE HAVING TO SPEND MONEY, YOU KNOW, ON A CONSULTANT.
WITH THAT. I GET THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS AND EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF JUST SPENDING MONEY FOOLISHLY. BUT HERE'S THE, HERE'S HERE'S THE PROJECT, HERE'S AN INITIATIVE, OUR WEBSITE. WHY WOULD NOT WHY WOULD WE NOT INVEST IN THAT? WE BECAUSE THAT IS THAT IS INFORMATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR RESIDENTS. WE COULD PAY. HIM IF WE LIKE HIS PLAN, BUT I THINK IT'S HE'S WORKED ON THIS ALREADY AND HE'D LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT IT TO US.
THE PROBLEM IS, AND JOE LUCCHESE, WHO DOES A GREAT JOB WITH OUR WEBSITE, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ON THE FIRST PAGE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. I MEAN, OUR OUR FIRST PAGE GOES, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED IS A GREAT TIER SYSTEM THAT IT'S EASY TO FIND SOMETHING, BUT MOST OF THE TIME JOE IS TOLD THIS HAS TO BE ON THE HOME PAGE. THIS HAS TO BE ON THE HOME PAGE. AND AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THE HOME PAGE GETS SO CROWDED, WHICH IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OUR AGENDA, PUTTING ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ON THE ON THE AGENDA, UM, THAT IT BECOMES UNREADABLE.
UNLESS WE DO IT LIKE YOU'RE SAID, AN ADDENDUM, SOME SORT OF. AN.
YEAH, THAT'S ON THE IT WASN'T. SO CAN WE SCHEDULE THAT PRESENTATION? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, BECAUSE. THE WEBSITE IS HOOKED UP WITH OUR SERVICE AGREEMENTS AND ANY OF THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, OR IS IT SEPARATE? NO, WE'D HAVE TO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE TIME TO TRY TO LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE WE HAVE A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT ON OUR WEBSITE. SO WE'D HAVE TO. SEE HOW.
WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EACH COMPONENT IS AND WHAT IS NEEDED TO MAKE THE CHANGES. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THE WEBSITE REVIEW. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. AGENDA REVIEW. OH.
SO THE UNDER PRESENTATIONS, THE TCC MILESTONES ARE NOT HAPPENING. UM, THOSE PEOPLE WERE NEVER CONTACTED. SO.
OH REALLY? NO. UNLESS YOU SPOKE TO ANYONE.
PAUL, DID YOU. SPEAK WITH HIM? OKAY.
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SO WE'RE. SO THAT'S. YES. WHAT IS THAT? THE MILESTONES FOR TDI? CC THAT'S BEING POSTPONED BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WERE NOT CONTACTED.SO JUST BEFORE WE START THE AGENDA, I.
JUST WANT. TO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
ALWAYS TAKE IT OFF POST. YEAH. TAKE IT.
SO JUST BEFORE WE GO ON, I WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE AT TOMORROW'S MEETING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, UM, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY, SO I DO HAVE AN EXCUSE ABSENT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTAND. I FEEL LIKE I REPORTED.
TO YOU. YEAH, I, I JUST. FEEL LIKE I REPORT INTO IT. I FEEL LIKE ALL THESE BOSSES THAT I DON'T HAVE, THAT PEOPLE THINK I DO. UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS ON RECORD THAT I DID ANNOUNCE THAT I WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE AT TOMORROW'S MEETING. OKAY.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, THE NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE.
SO I'LL GET TO THAT YET. PLEASE. THERE'S MORE TO DISCUSS. OKAY, LET'S GO THROUGH SOME OTHER STUFF FIRST. ARE WE DOING OUR HOW MANY HOW MANY HEARINGS? HOW MANY? UH. WE'RE HOLDING OVER LAWRENCE STREET. RIGHT. UM, SO WE'RE DOING.
WE HAVE TO. UH, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. UM, LAW TO DISCUSS. AND, UH, BETHEL.
AND BETHEL. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR LIAISON REPORTS. UM, WHATEVER THE MAJORITY WANTS. SO WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE HERE. I WOULD NOT I WOULD BE NOT PART OF THAT DECISION. OKAY. AND, ELLEN, I DON'T KNOW.
WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION.
WE CAN FIGURE. THAT OUT. OKAY.
UM, SO I NOTICED WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA THAT, UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANY BACKUP FOR 5 OR 7. I KNOW THAT HOLLY MENTIONED SHE WAS HAVING AN ISSUE WITH LOADING IT OR SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW. IF IT'S FOR THE, UM, LIBRARY, FOR THE FOR THE HVAC SYSTEM AND FOR THE ROOF THAT THERE WAS, I GUESS WE CAN CHECK. AND SEE.
I SEE BACKUP AT THIS POINT. OKAY, GREAT.
YOU SAID FIVE AND SEVEN. YES, YES, I SEE BACKUP FOR THAT.
OKAY. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP ON SUNDAY NIGHT. IT WASN'T.
I NOTICED SOMETIMES WE HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE ITEMS ARE POSTED AND THEN THEY'RE BRIEFLY NOT POSTED. AND I DON'T KNOW.
OKAY. HOLLY AND I WORKED ON THE RESOLUTIONS ON SUNDAY NIGHT AND ON LABOR DAY. SO YESTERDAY WAS LABOR DAY, RIGHT? RIGHT.
ALL THE DAYS ARE MERGING. YES.
SO YEAH, IT PROBABLY IT PROBABLY WENT UP YESTERDAY.
NO IT WASN'T UP. YES. NO I REALLY BELIEVE THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH AGENDA QUICK. THAT MAY BE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. I DON'T SEE A BACKUP FOR ONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SUBMITTED. I'M JUST GOING THROUGH ALL OF THEM HERE TO SEE IF ANYTHING ELSE IS IS MISSING.
ONE WAS DONE. YEAH. THERE'S THERE'S NO BACKUP FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. OH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE CAN BE. BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD BE EXPOSING THE BANK RECORDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE GETTING THE EXEMPTION. OKAY, THERE'S THERE'S NOT EVEN A RESOLUTION POSTED. OH, THEY SHOULD.
I KNOW WE DID THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY WERE SHOWING US THEIR FRAUDULENT CHECKS, WHICH I WAS. THERE.
YEAH. WE DON'T. WANT THAT OKAY.
I'M STILL GOING THROUGH THE REST OF THE RIZZO'S.
UM. LET ME SEE. I'M ACTUALLY TEXTING HOLLY.
LET'S SEE IF SHE RESOLVED THE ISSUE.
TANYA IS NOT BEEN ATTACHED FOR THE TAX.
YEAH, THERE'S. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ATTACHED FOR A TB FIVE OR TB SIX EITHER, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT THOSE BE HELD OVER. UH, WE'RE WORKING OUT ONE ISSUE. IF WE COULD JUST HOLD IT OVER TWO WEEKS TO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING, I THINK WE COULD HAVE IT RESOLVED. HOPEFULLY IN THAT TIME. WHICH ONE? TB FIVE AND TV6. OKAY. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? SIX? 06560 SORRY.
TX 161 IS. REZONE NEEDS TO BE POSTED.
I KNOW THAT'S DONE. THAT'S GOING ON.
I NEED TO PUT THE BACK. UP IN THE SAME.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT AGENDA QUICK IS SLOW TO PROCESS IT TO GET IT UP. UH. SO HOLLY SAID FIVE IS SHOWING, BUT YOU CAN'T OPEN THE FILE, SO THAT.
DOESN'T. SOMETHING'S GOING ON, DOES IT? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? 404 FILE OR DIRECTORY? NOT
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FOUND. MAYBE SHE SHOULD TRY TO RELOAD IT UP AGAIN. LOAD IT UP AGAIN AND MAYBE.SEE, I THINK SHE'S. SHE'S BEEN TRYING. THIS AFTERNOON. I SPOKE WITH HER EARLIER.
WHICH ONE COULD YOU WANT? TB FIVE AND SIX.
YOU SAID TWO. FIVE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ATTACHMENTS.
BUT WHICH ONE YOU SAID WASN'T WHICH ONE YOU SAID SHE SAID IT WAS THERE, BUT. YOU CAN'T OPEN.
A BW. 50PW BW SEVEN. EVERYTHING IS OPENING. OKAY, I DON'T SEE TX.
IN TERMS OF FIRE CONTRACTS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROGRESS ON THE TARRYTOWN ONE SINCE THE LIST? YES.
WE HAD A MEETING AND I'D LIKE TO ADVISE ABOUT THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. SO THEN ALL RIGHT.
THERE HAVE BEEN GOOD MEETINGS. THEY HAVE. AND WE WILL MEET AGAIN ON THURSDAY. UM, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TOMORROW. I JUST WANT TO THANK TERRY FOR ADJOURNING IT BRIEFLY AND MOVING IT TO THURSDAY. I APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. THAT'S GOOD.
YOU AGREE THAT THE BACKUP CHECKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? UM, SHOULD NOT BE POSTED, RIGHT? I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO THOUGH, SEE THE DOCUMENTATION TO MAKE A MORE DETERMINATIVE ANSWER. UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT INFORMATION, BUT ON THE FACE OF IT, I AGREE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT TO MAKE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
BUT I DO THINK THAT I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH DT 1ST MAY HAVE BEEN, UM. WE ADDED IN, UM, WHERE FRAUDULENTLY CASHED, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR IT WASN'T BY THE TOWN. SO IT SAYS BY AN ENTITY OTHER THAN THE, THE TOWN. UM, AND, AND ALSO EACH ONE OF THEM FILED A POLICE REPORT. AND SO I THINK THAT SHOULD REALLY BE AN AWARE AS CLOSE TO SHOW THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
THEY DID THAT SORT OF DILIGENCE.
AND SO IF THE BOARD IS AGREEABLE, WE'LL JUST ADD IN, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS CLAUSE STATING THAT, UH, EACH OF THE UH RECIPIENTS FILED THE POLICE REPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, AND I THINK WE JUST GO WITH THE RESOLUTION WITHOUT A BACKUP.
SO LET ME UNDERSTAND. SO LET ME ASK THIS. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, BLOCK OUT. THE REDACT? THANK YOU.
EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE DOCUMENTATION.
OF A CHECK. CHECK. NO, I KNOW, SO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COUNT NUMBER. THE ACCOUNT? YES, THE ACCOUNT NUMBER AND THE ADDRESS. AND NAME.
RIGHT. THE SIGNATURE. AND SOMEBODY SIGNS A JACK. UM.
REDACTING THE ENTIRE. DOCUMENT.
YOU JUST SHOW THE SHAPE. OF A CHECK, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU HAVE TO DO THE ROUTING NUMBER. WIPE THAT OUT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE NEED TO SHOW SOME TYPE OF BACKUP.
I DON'T. THINK. WE DON'T. WHAT CAN WE DO? SO, YOU KNOW. IF I DO A POLICE REPORT, I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET THE INCIDENT REPORT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN DO. THAT. OH.
SO WE SO, SO ARE WE PUTTING ON ARE WE PUTTING WE INCLUDED IN THE POLICE REPORT. NO.
RIGHT. NO NOTHING. OKAY. SO WHAT IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED.
SO EVERYONE'S CLEAR. SO THERE'S NO.
MISUNDERSTANDING GOING TO BE THE.
IT'S THE. SECTION ESSENTIALLY. I'M SORRY THE SECTION BLOCK LOT. AND THE DESCRIPTION OF SOMEONE AN ENTITY OTHER THAN THE TOWN FRAUDULENTLY CASH THEIR CHECKS AND THAT THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT WITHIN THE WAIVER OF PENALTIES AND INTEREST. I MEAN, THE RESOLVE CLAUSE WOULD BE THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG HEREBY AUTHORIZES THE CANCELLATION OF PENALTIES ON CERTAIN PROPERTIES WHOSE TIMELY TAX PAYMENTS WERE FRAUDULENTLY CASHED BY AN ENTITY OTHER THAN THE TOWN DESIGNATED BY THEIR PROPERTY TAX IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS. AND WE. VISITED THE PROPERTY TAX IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS. AND IN CASE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, IS THAT THE THE, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS BROUGHT FOR ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM BROUGHT IT TO THE POST OFFICE.
GAVE WENT TO THE POST OFFICE, GAVE IT TO A POSTAL WORKER, AND SOMEHOW. THE TAX.
CHECK THEIR TAX PAYMENT. RIGHT. AND THE NEXT THING THEY AND OF COURSE, THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, WAS, UH, THEY MADE THEIR TIMELY PAYMENT. AND THEN IT TURNS OUT THAT THE CHECK COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, WASHED OUT TO BE PAYING TO SOMEBODY ELSE OTHER THAN THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG. IT ALSO HAPPENED TO A WATER BILL. UM, AND SO THERE'S A SERIOUS FRANKLY, FOR ME, THERE'S A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH THE POST OFFICE. UM, AND HOPEFULLY THE POSTMASTER IS LOOKING INTO THESE KIND OF
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THINGS. AND APPARENTLY IT'S FAIRLY WIDESPREAD.THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS. SO WEAK. SO I THINK I THINK HEARING THIS AND WE WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DROP YOUR PAYMENTS OFF, IF WE STILL HAVE WE HAVE ONLINE, WE CAN. DO IT ONLINE.
ONLINE AS WELL. SO WE JUST LIKE IF YOU IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DROP YOUR PAYMENTS OFF IN PERSON OR DO OR PAY YOUR MAKE YOUR PAYMENT ONLINE, WE DO ENCOURAGE THAT, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST OUTLINED SOME ISSUES THAT WE FOUND WITH THE POST OFFICE. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE SAFE AND YOU DON'T INCUR ANY TYPE OF PENALTIES, YOU KNOW, ON SPEND ON YOURSELF BECAUSE OF SOME FRAUDULENT ISSUES LIKE THIS. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR PAYMENTS ARE ARE TIMELY, UM, RECORDED. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUGGEST THAT YOU REALLY COME IN AND DROP YOUR PAYMENTS OFF OR PAY ONLINE. AND PAY EARLIER THAN LATER SO THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY SEE YOUR BANK STATEMENT. IF YOU LEAVE IT TO THE LAST FEW DAYS, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT IN LAW THAT WE SEND YOU A BILL. UM, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT WE REMIND YOU THAT THE SECOND, UM, SCHOOL, SCHOOL, UH, PAYMENT IS DUE IN JANUARY. UH, WHAT'S REQUIRED IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU OWN A PROPERTY THAT HAS TO PAY TAXES, AND SO YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR TAXES. AND SO EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, EVEN THOUGH THEY MADE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO PAY, UH, THEY WERE DEEMED TO BE DELINQUENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, SOMEBODY STOLE THEIR CHECK, WASHED IT, AND HAD IT PAID TO SOMEBODY ELSE. UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THE EXTRAORDINARY MEASURE, WHICH WE VERY RARELY DO, BUT THEY FOLLOWED EVERYTHING THAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO, INCLUDING FOLLOWING A POLICE REPORT. AND WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO CLEARLY SHOW THAT THEY DID TRY TO DO IT TIMELY. UM, SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE EXPECT TO DO OFTEN, BUT WE ARE DOING IT HERE BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO.
DO. AND ALL WE'RE DOING, WE'RE NOT WAIVING ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. WELL, WE'RE WAIVING AS THE PENALTIES AN INTEREST. IT DOESN'T SAY INTEREST IN THE THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED CLAUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF INTEREST WAS APPLIED, BUT WE SHOULD JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT TO ENSURE WE'RE WAIVING THE INTEREST AS WELL. BECAUSE WHEN WE DID IT IN APRIL, WE DID WAIVE PENALTIES AND INTEREST.
IT SHOULD BE PENALTIES AND INTEREST LIKE DOUBLE.
CHECK. OKAY, UM, HOLLY SAID ONE IS UP NOW.
OKAY. BACK UP. OH. THE BACKUP TO.
OKAY. NO. BUT WHEN I WAS GOING TO AMEND IT, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AS AMENDED.
CL. UNLESS YOU MADE THE CHANGE.
HOLLY, LET US KNOW IF YOU ADDED IN A WHEREAS CLAUSE LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND ADDED IN, UH, INTEREST AND PENALTIES.
FOR CL ONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REGENERON PROJECT, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A, UM, A WORK SESSION PRIOR TO THE 923? UM, MEETING? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE JUST IN GENERAL, IT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS ON MAJOR PROJECTS. SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS TO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THE NUANCES, THE BEFORE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP HOLDING OVER A PUBLIC HEARING, WHATEVER IT IS. WE GOOD IDEA.
SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MAYBE. UM.
WE CAN COORDINATE THAT. I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP COORDINATE THAT.
TERRIFIC. THANK YOU. KARA. UM, AND I KNOW, ACTUALLY, JOE, THAT AMANDA PUT TOGETHER, LIKE, A LITTLE PROCESS.
YEAH. LEGAL IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO THAT FOR LARGE SCALE PROJECTS SO THAT BY THE TIME THE HEARING IS OPENED, THE BOARD IS IS WELL INFORMED. AND I WANT TO THANK THE INITIATIVES OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIR FOR WANTING TO ENACT THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND, UH, JUST MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS MORE WELL INFORMED ONCE THAT HEARING BEGINS. HOPEFULLY THINGS, YOU KNOW, RUN A LITTLE SMOOTHER MOVING FORWARD. RIGHT? AND TO TO THAT OR THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE INTO, UM, THREE AND FOUR.
SO, UM, I HAD HELD OVER THE, UH, THE CONTRACT FROM CLAYTON MANNING REGARDING THE, UM, NORTH WASHINGTON SIDEWALK. I GUESS IT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO OR A MONTH AGO. WHATEVER IT IS AT THIS POINT. YEAH, IT'S TWO MONTHS AGO, PROBABLY. UM, AND I ACTUALLY MET WITH, UH, ENGINEERING TO TALK, TO GO THROUGH SO I COULD UNDERSTAND WHY IT COSTS, WHAT IT COST. AND HOW COULD WE MAYBE SAVE SOME MONEY? WHATEVER. AND THEY WERE VERY RESPONSIVE AND DID COME BACK WITH A REVISED PROPOSAL.
UM, THE BACKUP IS ON EACH OF THESE, UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, AARON'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY.
OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE SPOKEN TO US AS PAUL. YOU WERE JUST SUGGESTING. UM, BUT MAYBE FOR, UH, PRIOR TO TOMORROW OR TOMORROW NIGHT, HE COULD SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE REVISED
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PROPOSAL AND WHY THIS MAKES MORE SENSE. WE ARE SAVING MONEY. ABOUT $20,000. UH, WOULD WE BE ABLE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE'S RESIDENTS LIKE HOUSE HOMELESS WHO, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN PUSHING FOR THIS. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, HOW WOULD THE CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS? UM, YOU KNOW, BRIEFLY TO AARON, YOU KNOW, BEFORE BEFORE WE VOTE, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO, UM, UM, GIVE HIM THE COURTESY. YOU KNOW, HE HE REALLY LED THE FIGHT FOR THE SIDEWALK. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS A COMFORTABLE. WELL, HE SHOULD SCHEDULE THAT WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND AND AND AND THE ENGINEER.YEAH. SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD. NOTHING TO STOP HIM FROM CALLING HIM DURING THE DAY, EITHER.
RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT IF HE HAS QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, HE COULD ASK THEM AT THE MEETING.
WELL, HE CAN AND THEN IT'S GOOD FOR THE REST OF THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE WHO ELSE IS INTERESTED IN.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. NO, SO IT'S DURING HIS COMMENT PERIOD. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU WAS TRYING TO HAVE A SEPARATE YOU WAS ASKING FOR A SEPARATE PRESENTATION. THAT'S WHAT. HOWEVER.
WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT A SEPARATE PRESENTATION AND THEN, UM.
I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT. I JUST I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. TO THE SAME EXTENT THAT GARRETT WILL OFTEN PRESENT BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BE VOTING ON ITEMS. AARON CAN DO. HOPEFULLY THE SAME THING AND GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THE REVISED PROPOSAL AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MORE BENEFICIAL. I MEAN, HE SENT A DETAILED EMAIL. WE COULD PROBABLY READ FROM THE EMAIL THAT HE.
SENT, DON'T. DON'T HE THOUGHT THAT THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAVE. IS I'M JUST SAYING I'M JUST SAYING I JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYWHERE THAT HE DID. HE DID HIS DUE DILIGENCE. HE'S REALLY GOOD. AND THAT HE SENT A DETAIL. HE SENT A DETAILED EMAIL OUTLINING THE PROCESS AND WHAT WAS GOING TO. TAKE. YEAH, I AARON DARREN, I.
ASKED AARON HAYWARD. YES, BECAUSE I HAD ASKED HIM TO SPEAK TONIGHT AND HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BECAUSE OF HIS FAMILY SITUATION. SO HE DID SEND THAT INSTEAD, WHICH WAS VERY RESPONSIVE. OF HIM.
RIGHT. THE ONLY SUGGESTION I HAVE IS THAT IF WE MAY GET A PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THEN HE DOESN'T HAVE TO LISTEN OFF TO THE WHOLE TOWN BOARD MEETING, WHICH COULD TAKE A COUPLE HOURS. SO THIS WAY WE COULD PUT A PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING. HE COULD COMMENT.
, AND THEN HE. WHO'S HE, AARON OR.
AARON? OKAY, AARON. WE NEED TO COME FROM I MEAN.
WE CAN'T. WE KEEP TELLING. PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO WE SHOULD. I MEAN, THIS WAS A.
THIS WE SHOULD. WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION.
MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SCHEDULE MAKE SURE HE'S READY. NOT THAT HE'S NOT PREPARED BECAUSE CLEARLY HIS EMAIL SAID HE'S PREPARED. BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO FAKE THAT. CAN HE DO THAT? I MEAN, WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T.
GIVE HIM IT CAN BE DONE. A COMMON COURTESY.
YOU KNOW. OR IF HAL HAS QUESTIONS HE'S NOT SHY ABOUT WRITING, YOU KNOW, 2000 WORD EMAILS TO US.
UH, HE COULD PUT HIS. COMMENTS RIGHT. HE CAN WRITE US. HIS COMMENTS SO THAT, UH, AARON WILL KNOW WHAT TO ADDRESS WHEN HE ADDRESSES.
EXACTLY. SO I. CAN HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT TO HIM.
THIS COULD BE FORWARDED TO HIM FOR HIM TO DIGEST.
WHO'S THIS? WHO'S WHO'S HE? WHO'S THIS? AND WHAT'S THIS? AARON'S EMAIL COULD BE FORWARDED AHEAD OF TIME. TO HOW? FOR INFORMATION. THAT'S GOOD, I'M SURE. MAYBE WE JUST CLOSE IT. OR MAYBE WE.
POST THE WHOLE EMAIL. JUST NOT.
JUST FOR. POST TO AARON'S. UM, RESPONSE RIGHT UP ON THE WEBSITE. SURE. YEAH.
THAT'S ACTUALLY GOOD. HOLLY. COULD YOU DO THAT, PLEASE? AND JUST JUST, YOU KNOW, TITLE IT, YOU KNOW, UM, NORTH SIDEWALK. YOU DON'T HAVE IT. WE'LL SEND.
IT TO YOU. YEAH. EVERYBODY'S EMAIL.
UM, I HAVE GOTTEN A CALL. JOE, I MENTIONED FROM THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY COUNCIL THAT THEY WERE UPSET THAT SOMETHING WAS TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA. IT WAS A LOW BID. AND AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE WATCHING IT, AND, UM, AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE BACK ON THE AGENDA.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. I BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION OF DPW, AND THEY WERE LOOKING INTO IT.
ON W5, AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. UM, THERE'S THERE'S STARTING TO BE A TREND OF INCLUDING A 5% ALLOWANCE INTO THE CONTRACTS. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY PUT OUT A BID AND THEN THEY HAVE A 5% ALLOWANCE. UM, THERE'S NO TRIGGER FOR OUR
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APPROVAL PROCESS FOR WHEN THAT 5% CAN BE USED. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO TURN IN RECEIPTS, BUT THERE SHOULD BE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OVER YOUR BID AMOUNT AND START TO USE YOUR ALLOWANCE, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME AUTHORIZATION FROM THE TOWN, EITHER FROM A COMMISSIONER OR SOMEBODY TO SAY, OR A CHANGE ORDER. UH, IN ORDER, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WHY IS IT THE BID? JUST THE AMOUNT PLUS. THE ALLOWANCE? I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ANY ANY CONTINGENCIES LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT IF THEY ARE GOING OVER, THEN THERE'S A CHANGE ORDER, LIKE COUNCILMAN JACKSON SAID, OR. YOU ALWAYS.GO BACK TO THE BOOK, WE COME. BUT YOU ALWAYS BUILD IN CONTINGENCIES ON A CONTRACT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
WELL, THEY COULD, BUT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BID.
THAT'S PART OF THEIR BID, RIGHT? YES. AND THEN. RIGHT, SO THEY CAN COME BACK. AND IF THEY IF IT'S GOING OVER, IT CAN BE VOTED ON AGAIN, AMENDED OR WHATEVER. I THINK THE ISSUE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF WORK AND YOU COME. TO FIND SOMETHING AND YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE WORK, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE IT UP.
ABSOLUTELY. UM, MAYBE WE COULD FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND AND PUT SOME FURTHER LANGUAGE. IT WOULD BE BASED ON A.
WHEN YOU GET TO. THAT, LIKE A DESCRIPTION TO THE DPW COMMISSIONER AND THE DPW COMMISSIONER SIGNS OFF ON IT, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY ISSUES AND THE EXPENDITURES OF MONEY IS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT TO BEGIN AND THEN BE STUCK.
MIDDLE OF A PROJECT. BUT I THINK.
WHAT FRANCIS IS SAYING, IT SHOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY JUST HAPPEN WITHOUT. NO. WE HAVE TO GET APPROVALS.
YOU. YEAH. THERE'S NOTHING I CAN SAY IN THE CONTRACT THAT REQUIRES ANY AUTHORIZATION TO JUST GO TO THE MAXIMUM NUMBER. OKAY? AND IT'S IN, UH, FIVE AND SIX. IT'S TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES, WHICH IS INTERESTING. IT'S NOT IN SEVEN.
UH, SEVEN. I DON'T. BELIEVE LET'S SEE.
WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY SPELL OUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY CONTRACT AT THIS POINT. ABOUT THE. SEVEN AS.
THE TWO. NO, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SPELL OUT THE ALLOWANCES THAT PROCESS. WE JUST SAID I THINK BOTH. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO BE UPDATED. DPW RIGHT. WE HAVE SEVEN.
YEAH, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BOTH OF THE LIBRARY. THE LIBRARY ONES HAVE THE CONTINGENCY. WELL, BUT SOME OF OUR, UM, RESOLUTIONS DO SAY FOR AN AMOUNT AND A CONTINGENCY OF LIKE WE HAVE STATED THAT IN THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT. I KNOW WE'RE USUALLY NOT TO EXCEED, AND WE LEAVE IT. AT THAT. MHM.
THIS IS BECOMING. YEAH. SO THIS IS THREE TIMES. AND ON ONE AGENDA WE'RE STARTING TO TO SEE THIS. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. AS LONG AS WHEN WE'RE AWARDING THE THE LOWEST BIDDER OR NOT THE MOST, THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THEY'RE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. AND IT MAY BE THAT IN THE RFP IT SAID INCLUDE ANY, UM, CONTINGENCY FEE INTO IT. AND AS LONG AS EVERYBODY KNEW THAT THEY WOULD BE THEN ON THE SAME LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS NO TRIGGER. SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THESE IS OVER $2 MILLION. UM, AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU GET, YOU KNOW, TWO, $2 MILLION, YOU MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANY MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT NIGHT. THEY REALIZE THEY'RE GOING OVER. THEIR FORECASTS. AND SO THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD BE THERE SHOULD BE SOME TRIGGER THAT GETS THEM TO THE EXTRA MONEY. UM.
AGREE. DO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT PROCESS IS.
GOING TO BE? OH. IS GOING TO BE AS AMENDED, SINCE IT'S ALREADY. POSTED.
JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, WE JUST MENTIONED THAT THE ONE WILL BE VOTED AS AMENDED BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS JUST GIVEN. AND SOME OF THESE OTHERS, THE THE ONE WITH THE CONTINGENCIES MAYBE AS WELL, IF WE PUT IN SOME KIND OF A TRIGGER. SO, UM, GARRETT SENT SOME MORE
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INFORMATION ABOUT BETHEL. UM. WHICH. I GUESS HE'LL HOPEFULLY WE'LL PRESENT THAT. HE'LL PRESENT THAT TOMORROW NIGHT AS WELL. UM.PAUL, WERE YOU DOING A SITE VISIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT REGARDING, UM, HOW TO IMPROVE THE PRIVACY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS? WAS THAT A MEETING THAT'S COMING UP? THAT'S THE TOMORROW. I'M HAVING A TOMORROW? YEAH, AT 530.
ON SITE. YEAH. AND SCARY SKI OR TINO.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE BRIGHT VIEW.
OH, NO. THIS IS BETHEL. BETHEL. KNOWLES. BETHEL KNOLLS. NO, I'M NOT SAYING SHE'S. TALKING ABOUT HER PRIVACY.
YES. AND THEN THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE BALCONIES OR SOMETHING THAT. WE HAVEN'T SET THAT UP YET.
WELL, BUT IT'S. YES. COUNCILWOMAN, NEIGHBOR AND TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, JUST A QUICK UPDATE. SO. YES, INDEED.
BETHEL, UH, IS ON FOR CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW. AND I SENT OUT A PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDES THEIR UPDATED DRAWINGS AS WELL AS A COVER LETTER, AND THEN UPDATED REVIEW FROM THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT BUILDING DEPARTMENT. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES. THE TOWN ENGINEER HAS PROVIDED FINAL SIGN OFF ON THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING ASPECTS. AND, UM, IT'S OF NOTE THAT THAT STORMWATER BASIN WAS DESIGNED TO 100 YEAR STORM, UH, THE FAIRVIEW FIRE DISTRICT HAS NO FURTHER COMMENTS. AND, UM, THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE LOOP ROAD LAYOUT THAT'S PROPOSED WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT SIGNED OFF AND ASKED FOR UPDATED, UM, FLOW TESTING AND FOUND THAT TO BE SUFFICIENT. UM, AND I ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, STRONGLY CONSIDER PLACING SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF ITS SITE. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION THAT THE TOWN BOARD HAS APPROVED IN CONNECTION WITH MANY OF THESE SENIOR USES. OF COURSE, BRIGHT VIEW IS JUST MENTIONED. THAT WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE. UM, BRIGHT VIEW, DOBBS FERRY. BUT, UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, BRIGHT VIEW BENEDICT, UH, ON BENEDICT AVENUE AND THE TARRYTOWN PORTION OF THE TOWN, UH, THEY BUILT SIGNIFICANT SIDEWALKS. UM, THE SHELBOURNE, WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, HAD SIGNIFICANT, UH, SIDEWALK OBLIGATION. UH, AND IT'S BEEN IN THE CHELSEA ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD WAS, UH, SIGNIFICANT SIDEWALK CONSIDERATION. SO, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE TOWN BOARD HAS PRIORITIZED IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE COMP PLAN. SO THE APPLICANT WILL BRIEF US ON THAT TOMORROW. AND I DID ASK THEM TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON, UM, THE BALCONY ASPECT, AS WAS NOTED.
AND WHO MAINTAINS THOSE SIDEWALKS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED? ARE THOSE FACILITIES? UH, THOSE FACILITIES WOULD. OKAY.
TO THE EXTENT THAT THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE, UH, I SHOULD CLARIFY. SO, FOR INSTANCE, UM, BRIAN AT METROPOLIS ON DUXBURY ROAD BUILT SOME SIDEWALKS THAT GO BEYOND THEIR FRONTAGE. SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF DAKOTA, THAT WOULD BE THAT PARTICULAR, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS OBLIGATION. I BELIEVE THERE'S A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION THERE.
DITTO THAT. UM, BUT TO THE EXTENT THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT SIDEWALK. ARE YOU STILL ON GARRETT? YES, I'M STILL HERE. OKAY. UM, WITH THE MATERIALS THAT YOU SENT WITH YOUR EMAIL, ARE THESE, UM, COPIES OF MULTIPLE COPIES OR MORE THAN ONE COPY OF THE SAME DOCUMENT? ARE THEY? I SAID, UM, THEY'RE PDFS WITH THE SAME TITLE, BUT ONE WILL SAY NUMBER ONE. NUMBER ONE, ARE THEY.
ARE THEY'RE ALL UNIQUE. UH, SO, FOR INSTANCE, COVER LETTER HAD A SUPPLEMENTAL UPDATE. UM, SO IT HAS A DIFFERENT, UM, NAME REFERENCE, BUT IT'S TWO, TWO COVER LETTERS, WHICH AND THEN, UH, SET OF PLANS AND THEN, UH, CAN HORN REVIEW. AND NOW THAT I SEE, I THINK THAT ONE LINK I NEED TO RESEND TO INCLUDE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
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WHAT. THAT'S NOT TRUE.WHILE WE'RE YOU KNOW, REFLECTING. GINA, SOME PEOPLE ASKED IF YOU COULD DO ANOTHER UPDATE ON THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE SEWER PROJECT. THE FIRST ONE YOU DID WAS EXCELLENT. AND, UM, PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR, LIKE.
YES. IT'LL COME SHORT. IT'S IN THE.
WORKS. THANK YOU. GINA. APPRECIATE.
YOU. WELL, THEY HAD TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE. LAWSUIT.
OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS WITH THE AGENDA? ALSO, I HAVE GOTTEN AN EMAIL. UM, UH, SOME. SOMEBODY WANTED TO ASK IF YOU COULD JUST LOOK UP WHETHER OR NOT CONTINGENCY FEES OR ALLOWANCE PRE AWARD. UH, THESE ARE AUTHORIZED IN IN CONTRACT BIDDING. YES, I BELIEVE IT'S ALLOWED, BUT WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE THERE'S A VOTE.
OKAY. ALL IT'S GOING TO CALL AGENDA TOMORROW TO SEE IF SHE CAN SOLVE THE GLITCH.
OKAY. I CAN MAKE A NEW DOCUMENT IF NECESSARY. WE'LL SEE. YEAH, BUT IT IS. IT'S BEEN HAPPENING. OKAY, SO WE'RE READY TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET'S MOVE. UH, THERE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS EMPLOYMENT HISTORY OF PARTICULAR PERSONS MATTERS TO THE APPOINTMENT. UH, EMPLOYMENT PROMOTION AND REMOVAL OF PARTICULAR PERSONS OR CORPORATION PROPOSED, PENDING AND CURRENT LITIGATION, AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE. THAT SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE
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