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IN PROGRESS. OKAY. WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD. PLEASE TURN YOUR MIC ON.
WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD. UH, UH, WORK SESSION AND SPECIAL MEETING. UM, SO WE'LL START WITH A SPECIAL, UH, MEETING.
UM, SO TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 15TH. YOU'LL DO THE ROLL CALL.
SUPERVISOR. SUPERVISOR. FEINER HERE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS. PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN HABER.
PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON PRESENT. TOWN ATTORNEY AND PARLIAMENTARIAN. MR. JOE DANKO.
PRESENT. WE DO NEED AN ACTUAL VOTE TO OPEN UP THE SPECIAL MEETING NOW. SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. WE OPEN UP THE SPECIAL MEETING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TV. ONE RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OF TERRENCE MURPHY AS PART TIME INTERIM TOWN ENGINEER FOR A TERM BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2026. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UM. UH, ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS TO ADVERTISE AND SOLICIT BIDS FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE FAILING RETAINING WALL AT RALEIGH. UM, YOU KNOW, POND, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? I, UM, NOW WE'LL GO INTO, UH. YOU. CAN I MOVE THAT? WE CLOSE THE HEARING. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UM, NEXT. UH. UH, WE HAVE THE GREENBERG RESTORATIVE, UH, CIRCLE PROJECT. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. I WANT TO COME UP. I CALL IT ANYWAY. NO, NO. I CAN.
GRAB. OKAY. THANK YOU. SIT RIGHT THERE NEXT TO ME. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. IS THIS. IS THIS THING ON? ALL RIGHT.
THAT ONE IS. THIS ONE. IS NOT. THIS ONE'S NOT YOURS.
COLLEEN BUSH DOWN THE BUTTON. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. SO THANKS. THANKS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. UM, WE'RE BACK IN THE SWING. SUMMER IS OVER, RIGHT? RIGHT. LIKE, I'M TAKING THOSE 2 OR 3 DAYS, RIGHT? OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO I'M GOING TO BE DOING MOST OF THE TALKING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INTRODUCTION I NEED TO DO FOR WHOEVER MIGHT BE WATCHING REVEREND LANE COBB. UM, DO YOU WANT TO. COLLEEN BRAITHWAITE? JILL STERNBERG. NICK WILLIAMS. NICK WILLIAMS. EVERYONE COULD JUST SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. SORT OF. VIEWERS AT HOME COULD HEAR.
THANK YOU. OKAY, THERE YOU GO. SO THE FOUR OF US, UM, AS YOU KNOW, ARE FOUR OF THE FIVE PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP THE GREENBERG RESTORATIVE CIRCLE PROJECT. UM, PLANNING TEAM. AND TODAY, I'M GOING TO PROBABLY JUST GO OVER THE MOST RECENT PROJECT THAT REPRESENTS THE COLLABORATION THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE TOWN. UM, WHICH IS THE BUILDING OF BETTER GREENBERG SERIES OF LISTENING CIRCLES FROM AUGUST 2025 TO MAY 2026.
UH, WE'VE DONE OTHER CIRCLES, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT, BUT I THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST FOCUS ON THAT ONE. UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH, UM COUNSEL WOMEN JACKSON AND HABER AND, UH, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS ALSO CAME TO SEVERAL MEETINGS. SO WHAT I'M I, I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL GOT THE EMAIL WITH THE REPORT. UM. THE PURPOSE OF THE SERIES WAS TO INVITE GREENBERG RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY RESIDENTS OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG, TO ENGAGE IN A CONSTRUCTIVE AND FACILITATED PROCESS OF LISTENING TO AND LEARNING FROM ONE ANOTHER. UM, AND ALONG WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON AND HABER, UH RESIDENTS SHARED EXPERIENCES AND SUGGESTIONS FOR BUILDING STRONGER CONNECTIONS WITH LEADERSHIP OF THE TOWN TO ADDRESS THE TOPIC AT HAND. WHATEVER IT WAS. AND I'LL GO OVER THEM IN AN ENVIRONMENT DESIGNED TO UPLIFT OUR COMMON HUMANITY, INSPIRE OUR COMMUNITY, AND FOSTER AN EXPERIENCE OF BELONGING. WE HELD CIRCLES ON HOUSING, EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY, AND WE DID TWO OF THOSE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS, FAIRNESS AND EQUITY IN POLICING AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND CREATING A TOWN IDENTITY FOR A UNIFIED GREENBERG. SO ACROSS ALL THE SESSIONS, RESIDENTS EXPRESSED APPRECIATION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE, HEAR DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES, AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS ACROSS COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK YOU KNOW THAT FROM MAYBE THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THAT ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAD WAS TO ALLOW GREENBERG RESIDENTS TO SHARE, AS WE SAID, THEIR SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO PROMOTE EQUITY IN OUR TOWN. SO THE MAJOR THEMES THAT WERE KIND OF CAME OUT OF THIS WERE
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IDENTIFIED WAS COMMUNITY CONNECTION AND BELONGING. THAT WAS THE MOST CONSISTENT THEME ACROSS ALL THE CIRCLES WAS A DESIRE FOR STRONGER COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS. SO PARTICIPANTS DESCRIBED GREENBERG AS DIVERSE AND FULL OF POTENTIAL, BUT ALSO DESCRIBED IT AS FRAGMENTED, DISCONNECTED AND DIVIDED BY GEOGRAPHY, GOVERNANCE. STRUCTURES. SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SOCIOECONOMIC DIFFERENCES, AND THEY FELT THAT MADE IT DIFFICULT TO ENGAGE IN A MORE KIND OF UNIFIED FEELING OF BELONGING ACROSS GREENBERG. AND THEY REPEATEDLY CALLED FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GATHER AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND CELEBRATE SHARED SUCCESS AND CREATE A STRONGER SENSE OF TOWN WIDE IDENTITY. ANOTHER MAJOR THEME WAS COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY. THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RESIDENTS. UM, THEY FELT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND EASIER ACCESS TO INFORMATION, IMPROVED TOWN COMMUNICATIONS, ENHANCE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND MORE MEANINGFUL WAYS TO PARTICIPATE IN DECISION MAKING. UM, THEY ALSO EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF ACTIVE LISTENING AND RESPECT OF DIALOGUE. UH, EXCUSE ME, RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE BETWEEN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND THE COMMUNITY. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED WAS EQUITY AND REPRESENTATION. SO PARTICIPANTS IN THE CIRCLES CONSISTENTLY IDENTIFIED INEQUITIES RELATED TO HOUSING, EDUCATION, ACCESS TO SERVICES, INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT, LEADERSHIP, REPRESENTATION, AND CIVIC INFLUENCE. AND THEY EMPHASIZE THAT EQUITY MEANS ENSURING ALL PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES AND DECISION MAKING. AND SO, UM, THEY ALSO EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT SOME COMMUNITIES FEEL UNDERREPRESENTED AND DISCONNECTED FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSES. I DON'T THINK THIS IS NEWS PARTICULARLY PROBABLY TO YOU ALL RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS INTERESTING WHEN WE ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE AND THE SAME THEMES KEEP POPPING UP. SO THESE WERE THE MAJOR THEMES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. UM, MAJOR AREA OF CONCERN. UM, AGAIN, ONGOING INEQUITIES AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN GREENBERG.UH, ACROSS THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF GREENBERG. THE FAILURE OF THE TOWN TO ADEQUATELY ADEQUATELY ADDRESS RESIDENTS CONCERNS ABOUT INEQUITIES WHEN MAKING POLICY DECISIONS, PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING LEFT OUT AND INSUFFICIENT OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH TOWN LEADERSHIP AND LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING HEARD, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY GET TO TALK IN A TOWN BOARD, AT A TOWN BOARD, THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEIR INPUT IS BEING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, AND THEY'RE NOT THERE FEELING LIKE THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITHOUT THEIR INPUT.
UM, SO RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FROM US IN TERMS OF BECAUSE OUR GOAL REMAINS THE SAME. UH, TO HELP THE TOWN, UM, IMPROVE OR BUILD MORE EQUITY, UM, ACROSS, UH, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, ESTABLISH A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF HISTORICAL STRUCTURAL RACISM. UM, BY AND WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THIS THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. WE LEFT YOU GUYS WITH SOME CONCRETE KIND OF TO DO'S OR SUGGESTIONS FOR SOME TO DO'S. AND SO THOSE HAVEN'T REALLY CHANGED. UH, WE DO HAVE SOME THAT, UM, ARE A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE ENHANCED AND MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER. SO THE FIRST TWO, UM, WERE INCLUDED IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. ENGAGE IN ANTI-RACISM TRAINING FOR BOARD MEMBERS AND TOWN EMPLOYEES. UM, AND WE, THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE RECOMMENDED WAS REMIND ME.
OKAY, OKAY. NO, ACTUALLY, IT WAS ALSO UNDOING RACISM, RIGHT? THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE FOR SURVIVAL AND BEYOND. BUT JOIN GOVERNMENT ALLIANCE ON RACE AND EQUITY.
GARE. UM, YOU ALL HAD SOME FAMILIARITY WITH THAT BECAUSE WESTCHESTER COUNTY HAD, UM, HAD JOINED GEAR SOME MONTHS BEFORE WE WERE HERE. UM, SO WHAT'S NEW NOW? IS THAT IT? YOU MAY WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE ENGAGE AN EQUITY SPECIALIST OR CONSULTANT TO HELP THE TOWN CREATE DIRECT SOLUTIONS TO ONGOING ISSUES OF INEQUITY AND GEAR CAN HELP YOU DO THAT BECAUSE THE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH YOU ALL IN, IN THE SINCE WE WERE HERE THE FIRST TIME AND TODAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME, THAT THERE'S SO MUCH PULLING ON YOU, THERE'S SO MUCH ON THE DOCKET. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH. UM, AND SO A, AN EQUITY SPECIALIST, A CONSULTANT, ONE OF THEIR ROLES WOULD BE TO ASSIST THE TOWN, KIND OF HOLD YOUR HAND, HELP YOU CREATE THESE MEASURES THAT
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THEN YOU CAN, UM, THEY CAN HELP YOU IMPLEMENT ONE OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S RELATED. THE NEXT THREE ARE COMPLETELY RELATED. ESTABLISH MEASURABLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EQUITY GOALS THAT CAN BE TRACKED ANNUALLY. UM, AND AGAIN, I'M HOPING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AFTER WE, YOU KNOW, GET GET THROUGH THIS REPORT ABOUTS MIGHT LOOK.CONVENE A TOWN WIDE COMMUNITY ADVISORY WORKING GROUP COMPOSED OF RESIDENTS, CIVIC LEADERS, NONPROFITS, BUSINESSES, YOUTH AND VILLAGE REPRESENTATIVES. UM, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, UM, TOWN RELATED COMMITTEES, AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE COULD IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE TOWN COULD HAVE AN EQUITY ADVISORY WORKING GROUP THAT WAS MADE UP OF DIVERSE REPRESENTATIVES OF DIFFERENT PARTS OF GREENBERG, AND SO THAT IT'S NO. SO ONE OF THEIR GOALS WOULD BE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR AREA OF GREENBERG AND HELP THOSE AREAS COME TOGETHER. UM, AND SUPPORT, UM, SOME PROGRAMMING THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY AND PERHAPS BEGINS TO CLOSE SOME OF THESE RIFTS THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY'RE FEELING. UM, THE INEQUALITIES, THE INEQUITIES, THE THE LACK OF RELATIONSHIPS, UH, ACROSS THE VILLAGES AND WITHIN THE TOWN. SO COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY WAS A VERY BIG DEAL. UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT IS THAT WHAT IF AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED TO, TO, TO GINA AND JOY DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS. WHAT ABOUT REGULARLY SCHEDULED TOWN HALLS? UM, THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY, UM, DESIGNED WHERE THE BOARD CAN SHARE NEW INITIATIVES AND PROGRESS REPORTS WITH RESIDENTS? UH, THAT THE BOARD CAN HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS ON ISSUES OF CONCERN AND ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS IN REAL TIME.
OFTEN THE BOARD MEETINGS AREN'T ENOUGH BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON IN A BOARD MEETING THAT IT'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS, AND THE RESIDENTS AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM YOU, PARTICULARLY WITH THE STRUCTURE THAT IT IS NOW. BUT A TOWN HALL IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THAT. SO EVEN IF IT WAS A ONCE A MONTH OCCURRENCE, RIGHT, THAT PEOPLE KNEW THAT THEY COULD COME AND BE HEARD AND THEN GET ANSWERS IN REAL TIME. IT MIGHT BE VERY HELPFUL TO, UH, TO KIND OF QUELL THAT ISSUE WITH PEOPLE SAYING, THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO US, THEY'RE NOT HEARING US.
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, WHATEVER THEY WANT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES. THE TOWN HALL IS DESIGNED TO KIND OF SHAKE THAT UP AND AND CREATE SOMETHING NEW. UM, ANOTHER SUGGESTION. LAUNCH A COORDINATED COMMUNICATION INITIATIVE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING AWARENESS OF TOWN SERVICES, PROGRAMS, EVENTS AND ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITH A FOCUSED INTENTION TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN THE MOST MARGINALIZED AND WHO MAY BE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO REACH. SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, DON'T FEEL THAT IT MAKES ANY SENSE FOR THEM TO EVEN TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. UM, AND SO I THINK THAT MANY OF YOU, YOU KNOW, WHO YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE, RIGHT? UM, BUT YOU AS ELECTED LEADERS, CERTAINLY YOU WOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM MORE OF THEM. RIGHT. IT HELPS YOU, IN THE LONG RUN TO HAVE A SATISFIED CONSTITUENCY. RIGHT. SO. SO IT MAKES SENSE. AND THIS IS WHERE IF YOU HIRED AN ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST, THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO YOU. I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE WEBSITE. PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD REPRESENTATIVE COUNCIL PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE LACK OF THAT. THE WEBSITE NEEDS UPDATING. I THINK THAT ADDRESSING CURRENT AND DEFICIENCIES ON THAT WEBSITE AND DEVELOPING COMMUNICATION TOOLS THAT IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY AND MAKE INFORMATION EASIER TO FIND FOR PEOPLE, WOULD REALLY BE, UH, GO A LONG WAY AND EVEN MAYBE A TOWN WIDE NEWSLETTER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP A LOT IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN GREENBERG. WE AND THE GREENBERG DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING UNINCORPORATED, DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. INCORPORATED. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DOBBS FEST. DOBBS FERRY FEST. I NEVER HEARD OF IT. AND I LIVE IN TARRYTOWN. RIGHT. IT'S LIKE, I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT. SO THE THING ABOUT CREATING THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO GET TOGETHER, UM, A TOWN WIDE NEWSLETTER, UM, IMPROVED COMMUNICATION, OUTREACH, ENGAGEMENT SPECIALISTS. THESE ARE JUST POSSIBILITIES THAT COULD HAVE A LOT OF LEGS. UM, COMMUNITY BUILDING AND BELONGING. UM, THIS AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL RELATED, DEVELOPING TARGETED OUTREACH STRATEGIES TO ENGAGE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY PARTICIPATED AT LOWER RATES. THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, AN EXAMPLE MIGHT BE FAIR OF YOU, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE THE VILLAGES. IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY IF THEY ARE, UM, PARTICIPATING MORE IN JUST THEIR, UH, SURROUNDING AREA, JUST IN THEIR VILLAGES, JUST IN
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THEIR MUNICIPALITIES, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THEY RELATE TO GREENBERG AT ALL. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING A LOT. LIKE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I LIVE IN GREENBERG, RIGHT? WHAT IS GREENBERG? UM, DEVELOP A SHARED GREENBERG IDENTITY INITIATIVE THAT CELEBRATES THE TOWN'S DIVERSITY WHILE FOSTERING A STRONGER SENSE OF COLLECTIVE BELONGING AMONG ALL GREENBERG RESIDENTS, INCLUSIVE OF BOTH INCORPORATED AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS. SO THAT, AGAIN, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COMMUNITY LED. I DON'T SEE THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD DO, BUT CERTAINLY TOWN BOARD COULD SUPPORT SUCH A THING. UM, SO I THINK THAT IS MOSTLY WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ENTAIL.AND I WE'RE HAPPY TO DO Q&A. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONCLUDE THAT THE LISTENING CIRCLES REVEALED THAT GREENBERG RESIDENTS REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THEY WANT TO BE ACTIVE PARTNERS IN SHAPING THEIR FUTURE. UM, WHILE THEY IDENTIFY CHALLENGES RELATED TO HOUSING, EQUITY, REPRESENTATION, COMMUNICATION AND COMMUNITY COHESION, THEY ALSO EXPRESSED OPTIMISM AND ARE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER. AND I THINK IT WAS REALLY REMARKABLE. AND COUNCIL, JACKSON, HABER AND HENDRICKS CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES WERE.
UM, THE STRONGEST MESSAGE EMERGING FROM THESE CONVERSATIONS IS THAT RESIDENTS WANT MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER, TO ENGAGE IN COLLECTIVE PROBLEM SOLVING THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMMUNITY IN WAYS THAT PROMOTE EQUITY, ADDRESS COMMON CONCERNS, AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL GREENBERG RESIDENTS. AND THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO COLLABORATE WITH TOWN LEADERSHIP TO ADDRESS ONGOING CONCERNS OF INEQUITY AND DIVISIVENESS IN THE TOWN THAT DISCOURAGE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND CONTRIBUTE TO AN EXPERIENCE OF DISENFRANCHISEMENT AMONG RESIDENTS. THERE. THEY FEEL LIKE THE CURRENT THE WAY IT IS, THE CURRENT STRUCTURE, UM, DOESN'T REALLY DOESN'T ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET INVOLVED. UM, AND WE REALLY DO FEEL LIKE BY EMBRACING THESE FINDINGS AND CREATING PATHWAYS FOR ONGOING ENGAGEMENT, THE TOWN CAN STRENGTHEN TRUST, IMPROVE OUTCOMES, AND CONTINUE MOVING TOWARDS A MORE CONNECTED, EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE GREENBERG. SO THAT'S OUR REPORT, RESPECTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED.
GREENBERG. RESTORATIVE CIRCLE PROJECT. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND THIS REPORT. IT'S VERY IT'S VERY HELPFUL, VERY ENLIGHTENING. AND, UM, I'LL TAKE A LOT OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO HEART. UM, AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT. I THINK THEY'RE VERY GOOD SUGGESTIONS. SO THE EXPERIENCE.
OF BEING IN THE CIRCLES, I THINK SHE AND I BOTH SPOKE AT ONE MEETING ABOUT THAT. UM, IT WAS VERY POWERFUL. UM, AND IT ALREADY IS A STEP TOWARDS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE RESULT OF THIS, WHICH IS THAT IT WAS ANOTHER, UM, FORUM TO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY FROM TOWN BOARD MEETINGS, WHICH IS A VERY STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT. THIS WAS VERY EMOTIONAL. IT WAS VERY, UM, BUT IT WAS A VERY SAFE SPACE. I THINK EVERYONE FELT THAT BECAUSE OF HOW YOU IMPLEMENT THE CIRCLES AND WHAT YOU DO TO TO INTRODUCE IT, EVERYONE FEELS VERY SAFE AND SPEAKING, I THINK I CERTAINLY GOT THAT IMPRESSION. UM, AND THE THINGS THAT COME OUT ARE NOT THE THINGS THAT WOULD COME OUT IN A TOWN, AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FLOODING AND, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF MEAT AND POTATOES KIND OF ISSUES. THESE GO THESE THIS IS DEEPER. THIS IS DEFINITELY DEEPER. UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MOVE FROM, FROM THE RESULTS OF THIS TO ACTUALIZING THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED NECESSARILY. BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT I DO, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED, AS A START, AND SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS A COMMUNICATIONS PROFESSIONAL HERE TO AT LEAST PROVIDE A MORE TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS OF INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE GET FROM FROM THE TOWN. UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEWSLETTER, A NEWSLETTER LIKE THE VILLAGES DO HAVE, WHICH IS PRETTY, UH, COMPREHENSIVE AND COULD TAKE FROM THE VILLAGES AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE PROMOTING HERE IN THE TOWN. UM, SO, BUT IT'S A BIG JOB, THE WEBSITE THAT WE NEED SOMEONE TO, TO IMPLEMENT THAT. UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY IF WE CAN FOR, FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO AT LEAST START WITH THAT.
AGAIN, I WANT TO ALSO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT GEAR THAT THAT CAN HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THEY WORK WITH MUNICIPALITIES WHO ARE TRYING TO PUT MEASURES IN PLACE. AND SO THEY ALREADY HAVE BLUEPRINT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO INVENT IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT WHAT YOU NEED. THEY WILL CONSULT AND LIAISE WITH YOU AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? HOW DO YOU DO THIS? WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOUR TOWN? WHAT'S THE BEST FIT?
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RIGHT. IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO ON YOUR OWN.THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE KEEP EMPHASIZING THIS.
THESE, THESE, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AREN'T REALLY GOING TO CHANGE. WE SEE THAT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS FOR. AND SO WE WANT TO KEEP POINTING YOU IN THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE I, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS PAINSTAKING WORK AND IT CAN BE CONFRONTING AS WELL. AND IT'S USEFUL TO BE PARTNERS WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF MAKING THINGS, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN THIS WAY. DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, COLIN? YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HEAR, HONEY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE. TO HOLD THAT UP. THE THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT GEAR IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LATELY. THE FACTORS THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF GREENBERG ARE CHANGING. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY IS CHANGING THE WAY YOU OPERATE TO MEET THE DEMOGRAPHICS. SO WHEN THIS WAS A 90% WHITE COMMUNITY, THAT WAS A DIFFERENT ERA. IT ISN'T ANYMORE. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO MEET THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. AND THEY'RE EXPERTS. AS LAYNE SAID, WHO'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS. NEW YORK CITY HAD IMPLEMENTED YEARS AGO, AND THEY'VE COME UP WITH A TERRIFIC EQUITY PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT.
UM, THEY PASSED A LAW IN NEW YORK CITY TO CREATE AN OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY. AND JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, OR MAYBE LAST MONTH, THEY CAME UP WITH AN EQUITY PLAN. I SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THERE'S SPECIFIC MEASURES THAT THEY'VE PUT IN PLACE TO ADDRESS ISSUES AMONG THE POPULATION.
UH, COLLEEN, IF I MAY, BECAUSE WE WORK TOGETHER. SEVERAL YEARS AGO AT THE COUNTY, UM, AND THEN IT PROGRESSED FROM THERE. AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE NOW SINCE I'VE BEEN AT THE COUNTY. UM, AND AS I RECALL, IT WAS WORKING, STARTING WITH A DISCREET APARTMENT OR TWO. NOT DISCREET, BUT BUT JUST AS AS A TEMPLATE, PERHAPS TO BROADEN OUT IN THE LARGER, UH, COUNTY COMMUNITY. UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU MADE PROGRESS WITH THAT. I ALSO SPOKE AT THE TIME WITH, I THINK IT WAS MECKLENBURG THAT MECKLENBURG. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S A CITY OF ABOUT THE SAME SIZE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT METRIC ENTIRELY, BUT THEY WERE MAKING IT WORK FOR THEIR PARTICULAR METRICS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW YOU FELT THAT THAT HAS BEEN GOING. AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT WE CAN TAKE FROM THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO IMPLEMENT.
YEAH, I THINK STARTING WITH ONE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IN PLANNING, WHICH IS REALLY CRITICAL. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING STARTS. SO YOU COULD START WITH YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEN ROLL IT OUT TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS AFTER THAT. AND I THINK THAT WORKED PRETTY WELL IN THE COUNTY. YOU MEAN THERE WERE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE READY TO GO, LIKE THE COMMISSIONER OF MENTAL HEALTH, RIGHT, WHO WAS ALREADY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT.
RIGHT. AND SO HE TOOK OFF. YEAH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS CAME ALONG AND THAT'S A MODEL THAT COULD BE USED IN GREENBERG. THANK YOU.
I JUST PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU LADIES FOR REALLY COMING IN TO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY BRINGING THIS TYPE OF CONVERSATION, THESE TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE DO NEED IT. UM, I'VE HAD INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH COLLEEN AND LANE AND JILL ACTUALLY, TOO, AS WELL, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGES THAT THIS COMMUNITY FACE AND, AND HOW WE CAN FIX IT. AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT SEEMS A LITTLE DARK BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST GREENBERG. IT'S IT GOES BEYOND GREENBERG. SO I'M NOT JUST SAD ABOUT GREENBERG. I'M SAD WHAT'S HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, AROUND THE NATION. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S RIGHT IN YOUR BACKYARD, IT'S IT'S IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY UPSETTING AND, YOU KNOW, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU REALLY JUST TOOK TO TOOK THE MOUNTAIN AND RAN WITH IT AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, I AM GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE CHANGE IN. AND I WANT TO SEE CHANGE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE TRIED TO DO SOME THINGS HERE AND, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE THAT'S HERE. AND I WILL I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, WITH FULL TRANSPARENCY, WE'RE BROKEN.
THERE'S NO WAY. BUT THIS IS WHAT I THINK. THIS IS A GOOD STEP. UM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OF THE COMMUNITY COME OUT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS SMALL GROUPS, AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM SMALLER. OR MAYBE WE DO THEM MORE FREQUENTLY. AND I KNOW IT GETS CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE GOT TO FILL THE ROOMS, BUT JUST HOW YOU JUST EXPRESS HOW WE NEED TO FILL THE ROOMS, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS HURTING AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S
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IT'S VISIBLE. IT'S IT'S NOT A WAY THAT WE CANNOT EVEN SAY DIFFERENTLY. BUT THIS I LOVE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND REALLY BRINGING US TOGETHER AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, THEIR CONVERSATIONS CAN BE HARD AND DIFFICULT, BUT THEY'RE NEEDED.THEY'RE NEEDED AND THEY NEED IT MORE FREQUENTLY. AND, YOU KNOW, SO I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU, YOU KNOW, AND AND WHATEVER I CAN CONTINUE TO DO ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M HERE, BUT THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IT WAS DEFINITELY EYE OPEN. WE DEFINITELY HAD SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS. AND YOU DEFINITELY SEE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW. THAT SOMETIMES ARE NOT ALWAYS VISIBLE. WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
OH GO AHEAD COLLEEN. YEAH. IF I COULD JUST UNDERSCORE WHAT LYNN WAS SAYING, I THINK A GREAT FIRST STEP IS THE NEWSLETTER. BUT THE NEWSLETTER IS ONE WAY OF COMMUNICATION. YOU PUT THE NEWSLETTER AND YOU SEND IT OUT.
IF YOU DON'T GET THE FEEDBACK. SO I THINK THEY REALLY NEEDS TO BE A SERIES OF TOWN HALLS AND PUT ON YOUR FLAK JACKET OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO GET A GOOD FACILITATOR. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US THAT HAVE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE, BUT GET OUT THERE AND FACE THE COMMUNITY, HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. YOU GET A GOOD FACILITATOR. THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AN ORDERLY PROCESS. SO NOBODY'S HARASSING AND HARANGUING YOU.
BUT YOU GOT TO GET OUT THERE. AND ONE THING THAT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING TO ME AS THE RESIDENT OF GREENBERG, FOREVER, IS THAT THEY'RE NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE STEPPING UP WHO WANT TO TAKE THE MANTLE AND BE LEADERS, BE ELECTED LEADERS.
LOOK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS, BUT IT SAID SOMETHING. SO IF PEOPLE FELT ENGAGED AND THAT THEY HAD A PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE WE'D SEE MORE PEOPLE STEPPING UP. AND, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO HELP LEAD. AND I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON YOU GUYS TO SET THE EXAMPLE OF HEARING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THEIR CONCERNS AND, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO ON A REGULAR BASIS, NOBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS GROUP SHOULD BE A STRANGER. I WAS I WAS TALKING TO MY SON IN LAW, WHO'S 30, WHO WAS BORN RIGHT HERE UP THE STREET. AND HE WAS SAYING, WHO'S ON THE TOWN BOARD? WHO'S? I SAID, PAUL FINALLY SAID, OH, YEAH, I KNOW PAUL FEINER. I SAID, JOE HABER. NEVER HEARD OF HER. I SAID, GINA JACKSON.
YEAH, MAYBE. UM, THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO GREW UP, WHO WAS BORN AND WHO GREW UP HERE, WHOSE PARENTS LIVED HERE FOR DECADES. AND HE'S A SMART KID, MY SON IN LAW. I'M PROUD OF HIM. YEAH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, GET OUT THERE. BE KNOWN, HAVE PEOPLE ENERGIZED AND FEEL PRIDE IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE NOT LIVING.
THAT'S WE USED TO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE THE BEST THING, YOU KNOW, WE DID WE USED TO HAVE MEETINGS AND DIFFERENT PARKS AND DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I REMEMBER WE HAD A MEETING AT TRAVIS PARK AND PEOPLE BASICALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES. AND THEN WE SENT OUT NOTICES TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR TRAVIS PARK. AND WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO JUST TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT IMPACT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DURING PAST MONTHS, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF TRAVIS PARK. AND IT'S NOT A FAMILY FRIENDLY PARK. AND THAT WAS LIKE A BIG COMPLAINT. SO I FEEL IF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD MEET AT THE PARK, I WOULD SAY, WE JUST WANT TO HEAR WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THE PARK, YOU KNOW, BETTER. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USEFUL. WE USED TO DO IT ON THE NORTH ELM STREET ON THE SOUTH PARK, AND WE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES. UH, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE HAD A COUPLE I KNOW GINA AND I, WE MET WITH PEOPLE IN FULTON PARK ON, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOW THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOODING. AND WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DIFFERENT MEETINGS ON ALL KINDS OF GO ROAD WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPACTED BY FLOODING. UM, SO PEOPLE WERE SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M A RECENT FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN. I'VE LOST THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. AND EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD MADE A COMMITMENT TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING ISSUES. UH, IN THE FULTON PARK, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FRANK MORABITO AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THEY, THEY GOT RID OF OBSTRUCTIONS. WE REALLY WERE RESPONSIVE. AND WE GOT A BUNCH OF THANK YOU LETTERS YESTERDAY IN THE, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE RECENT STORM, PEOPLE SAID FOR THE FIRST TIME THEY REALLY BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT IS LISTENING TO THEM. I FEEL WITH THE ISSUE WITH THE NOLES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. MAYBE HAVE A MEETING. UM, YOU KNOW, AT BALLYMORE, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY WE WANT TO MEET THE TOWN BOARD INSTEAD OF YOU. COME TO US, WE'LL COME TO YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S DISCUSS THE FLOODING. UH, I SPOKE WITH FRANK MORABITO, UM, A FEW DAYS AGO. SO COULD YOU GIVE PRIORITY, JUST LIKE YOU DID WITH FULTON PARK, WHERE YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL?
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IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GIVE YOUR FULL ATTENTION, COME UP WITH CREATIVE IDEAS. HOW WE COULD ADDRESS THE FLOODING. MAYBE WE COULD MAKE A DENT. THEN PEOPLE WILL FEEL THAT WE'RE REALLY LISTENING. THE VILLAGES THEY HAVE, THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE TOWN DOES FOR THEM. BESIDES RAISE ASSESSMENTS. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESN'T KNOW. SO WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, MEETINGS IN EACH OF THE VILLAGES WITH THE VILLAGE BOARDS. AND I THINK THAT IF WE DID THAT, THAT'S THE WAY OF, UM, OF OF MAKING PEOPLE FEEL THAT, UM, WE'RE LISTENING TO THEM, YOU KNOW, IN EDGEMONT, WE USED TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND JUST HEAR PEOPLE COULD SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT, THAT THAT I THINK WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT STEP ORGANIZING, UH, TOWN HALLS IN EVERY DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT AS ACTIVE AS THEY USED TO BE, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WE COULD ALMOST HELP, YOU KNOW, HELP, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED AND SPEAK OUT.AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITIES.
I THINK THAT IF YOU PICK LIKE ONE THING, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S AND OF COURSE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WHEN YOU SAY ALL THESE THINGS, IT COULD BE VERY OVERWHELMING AND CONFRONTING. BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT IT GARE IS LIKE A WINNING MOVE BECAUSE THEY WILL HELP YOU PRIORITIZE AND PUT BE ABLE TO PUT THINGS INTO ACTION. UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS COMING AT YOU, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON FOR, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING WITH US ON THIS. AND THEN ALSO COUNCILWOMAN HABER FOR SAYING, YES, I'M TOTALLY IN. I LOVE THESE CIRCLES AND I BELIEVE IN THEM. AND THEN, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP WHEN YOU DID AND PARTICIPATING BECAUSE YOU PARTICIPATED FULLY. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT AS MUCH AS THESE LISTENING CIRCLES ARE VALUABLE TO PEOPLE, WHAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO AND THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE THEY PEOPLE ARE SAYING, THESE ARE GREAT. YES, WE WANT MORE, AND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE CIRCLES BECAUSE THEY WANT SOME WAY TO TAKE SOME ACTION. THEY DON'T WANT TO JUST CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION. IN COLLABORATION WITH THE TOWN BOARD OR IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS TO SAY, LET'S CREATE SOMETHING IN GREENBERG THAT LIFTS ALL BOATS BECAUSE WE WANT WE BELIEVE IN THIS. WE BELIEVE IN EQUITY. WE BELIEVE IN, UM, RELATIONSHIPS. WE BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF COMMUNICATION. WE BELIEVE IN THE POWER. YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF HUMANITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND AND I, IF I MAY, BECAUSE, UM, MAYBE JUST AN OBSERVATION.
OBSERVATION, BUT REALLY MORE OF A QUESTION. I DID NOTICE, UM, THAT WHEN I ATTENDED, IT WAS THERE WAS A DIVERSITY SOME FROM VILLAGES, SOME FROM THE TOWNS. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION, I THINK, TO WHAT THE SUPERVISOR SUGGESTED, HAVING DISCRETE MEETINGS ON SPECIFIC ISSUES OR IN SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES, UH, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THAT THERE'S A YEARNING AND WHAT I FELT FROM, UH, THE TIMES THAT I WENT A YEARNING FOR A MORE INCLUSIVE, COLLABORATIVE KIND OF INTERACTION THAT BRINGS NOT JUST NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER, BUT PEOPLE FROM ALL NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER. AM I READING THAT RIGHT? YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT? OH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. UM, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT'S HAPPENING IS BECAUSE WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO REACHING OUT. WE'VE DONE CIRCLES IN DOBBS FERRY AND IN ARDSLEY. WE HAVE STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS THERE. SO WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIPS SINCE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE CAME HERE AND MET WITH YOU. AND WE WOULD LIKE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS TO GO BEYOND US, UM, AND BE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE FOSTERED ALSO WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND THE VILLAGES. UM, BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON ITS OWN.
WE HAVE PUT HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS OF WORK TO MAKE THESE RELATIONSHIPS HAPPEN, AND TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND YOUR LEADERSHIP OF BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. YOU TALK ABOUT BRINGING MORE PEOPLE TO THE TABLE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU. WE NEED YOU TO BRING THEM OUT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT FIVE PEOPLE WHO ALSO HAVE OTHER JOBS, UM, ARE DOING, UH, ON OUR OWN. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE OTHER JOBS TOO, BUT YOU HAVE A LEADERSHIP POSITION AND VISIBILITY THAT WE DO NOT. RIGHT.
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AND THAT WOULD. BE I CAN UNDERSTAND I CAN RELATE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YES. SO AS YOU SAY, MORE CIRCLES, MORE PEOPLE AND MORE BUTTS IN SEATS. YEAH. THAT YOU GUYS COULD HELP US DO THAT FOR SURE. SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY THANK YOU UNTIL I DO. YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? I THINK I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, UM, THE TOWN HALLS. I THINK, LIKE, UH, JILL SAID, YOU WANT TO BRING PEOPLE ON BOARD. YOU SHOULD DO THAT. THE YOUNG PEOPLE ALSO WANT TO BE INVOLVED. UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW. AND IT'S EXHAUSTING. AND JUST LIKE YOU, EVERYONE HAS JOBS. EVERYONE. EVERYONE IS TIRED. WE'RE ALL TIRED. I THINK WE CAN ALL FEEL IT. THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. THE LEADERSHIP. EVERYONE IS TIRED. BUT. AND LIKE MISS JACKSON SAID, WE'RE BROKEN. BUT THIS IS WORK WORTH DOING. AND YOU HAVE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AND LEADERS NEED TO LEAD. AND SO IF YOU TAKE THIS CHANCE THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU, LIKE ACTUAL SOLUTIONS, REAL, MANAGEABLE SOLUTIONS. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE EASY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN COME RIGHT AWAY. NO ONE'S SAYING THAT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION TONIGHT, BUT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE REAL, BETTER CHANGE FOR THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.SO COULD WE HAVE LIKE A FIRST TOWN HALL, SAY, AT THE MILLS, THE VIRGINIA ROLL AT THE DELMARVA? BECAUSE I'M SAYING THIS IS AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING HEARD. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE MEETING, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT BELMAR SAID THEY WEREN'T BEING HEARD. THEY HAVE A FLOODING PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE AT THE KNOLLS WHO BASICALLY ARE ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN. SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF WE HAD IF WE COULD HAVE, SAY, A CIRCLE MEETING AND SEE IF WE COULD BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND TURN THIS INTO LIKE A WIN WIN, WHERE THE, THE CONCERNS THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE HAVE HAD AT BALLYMORE AND, YOU KNOW, COULD BE ADDRESSED AND WE COULD SHOW PEOPLE THAT WERE REALLY ADDRESSING THE FLOODING ISSUES AND SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT THEY HAD. UM, AND WE GIVE THAT PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY GOVERNMENT REALLY IS LISTENING TO US, AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. AND THIS IS THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S BEFORE US RIGHT NOW. AND WE COULD SHOW BY EXAMPLE THAT THIS APPROACH, YOU KNOW, WORKS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS USED TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOLOMON SCHECHTER WAS PROPOSED, WE MET WITH THE POETS CORNER CIVIC GROUP, AND THEY HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS. THE AVALON, UM, WE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE GOT A PART 200 ACRES OF PARKLAND BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BASICALLY FLED THE PROJECT AND WE TURNED IT INTO A WIN WIN. UM, NEAR, UM, UM, TARRYTOWN. WE GOT TO GLENVILLE WOODS. WE WE GOT THAT PARK BUILT APPROVED BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I FEEL THAT WE'VE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID. WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. I THINK THAT THEY'RE REALLY SPEAKING MORE TO MORE META ISSUES THAN SPECIFIC, LIKE FLOODING ISSUES, LIKE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TOWN HALLS WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ABOUT A SPECIFIC PROBLEM. THAT'S IN A COMMUNITY PER SE, BUT MORE ABOUT MAYBE JUMPING OFF FROM THE THE THEMES OF SOME OF THESE RESTORATIVE CIRCLES AND BRINGING PEOPLE IN THAT WAY. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO DO NEIGHBORHOOD TOPIC FOCUSED MEETINGS AS WELL, BUT I THINK THIS IS SORT OF A BROADER, UM, A BROADER INITIATIVE THAT IS, HAS, HAS, HAS A WIDER REACH. AND ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE IN RATHER THAN JUST ABOUT SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC. THE REASON WHY I DISAGREE WITH THAT IS I'M LOOKING AT FULTON PARK BECAUSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, MORE THAN. IT'S NOT JUST FULTON PARK, I JUST WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THE CORRECTION. IT WAS IT WAS ALL THE COMMUNITIES AFFECTED BY TROUBLESOME BROOK. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDED FULTON PARK, GIBSON AVENUE, UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER BY OVER BY MANHATTAN AVENUE. SO I JUST WE KEEP TARGETING ONE AREA. SO WE WERE ADDRESSING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT WE'RE ONLY TARGETING ONE COMMUNITY. WE WERE ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT WAS AFFECTING ALL OF THE ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT I JUST MENTIONED. BUT BUT THE BENEFIT OF WHAT WAS DONE BY THE TOWN IS WE TURNED PEOPLE WHO BASICALLY HAD ZERO TRUST IN GOVERNMENT. THEY BASICALLY WERE DISGUSTED WITH THE GOVERNMENT. THEY FELT THAT THEY WEREN'T BEING HEARD FOR DECADES. AND AND NOW, AS A RESULT OF THE EFFORTS, UM, THAT WERE DONE BY PUBLIC WORKS, NOW THEY FEEL THAT THEY WERE LISTENED TO. THEY FEEL THAT, UH, THAT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE. UH, THEY FEEL THAT GOVERNMENT IS, IS, IS REALLY
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TRYING THEIR BEST TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. SO I FEEL THAT THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF, OF WHAT THESE TOWN HALLS SHOULD BE DOING. WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED. THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE GENERAL STUFF. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, ABOUT BASICALLY, UM, UH, PROBLEMS THAT IMPACT THEM. SO THE PEOPLE AT ELAM ARE THEY'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LISTENING.TO THEM. CAME OUT OF THE RESTORATIVE CIRCLES. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE BROADER ISSUES. IT, UM, THEY JUST AFFECT THEM. YEAH. AND LANE JUST GAVE A FULL EXPLANATION OF ALL THESE KINDS OF WAYS THAT THEY FEEL DISAFFECTED. IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT FLOODING, YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL A LOT OF WAYS ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. SO I'M NOT DISCARDING YOUR DISCOUNTING YOUR IDEA. I THINK THAT THAT THERE'S A BROADER APPROACH THAT WE NEED TO TAKE, THOUGH. AS WELL. I THINK WHAT MAY BE HELPFUL AND. NO, I THINK.
IT'S A YES, IT'S AN BUT I THINK WE'LL BE HELPFUL FOR THE SUPERVISOR. IF YOU WERE TO REALLY PULL, IF YOU WAS TO REALLY READ THE REPORT AND JUST LIKE, REALLY IF YOU REALLY READ THE PART, JUST REALLY TAKING IT BECAUSE THERE WERE POINTS IN THAT, YOU JUST IT'S NOT A ONE TIME READ, IT'S A READ TO REALLY TAKE IN EXACTLY WHAT'S POINTS AND REALLY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. SO SO THEN YOU CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TOWN HALLS, WHAT WE'RE DEFINING AS THAT. OKAY.
APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE. YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT SUMMARY. AND YOU GUYS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR.
HAVING US. YES. THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE TO THE TOWN. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE CHAIRS.
YES, THAT'S A GOOD READ ALL FOR OKAY. THANK YOU. OH YOU NEED IT ANYWAY. WE MAY NEED IT. YES. DON'T WORRY, NO WORRIES.
HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. THANK FOR YOUR GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE PERSON COMMENT.
YEAH. OUR ENGINEER, STEVE SPINA JUST RAN TO THE BATHROOM. I THINK BIKE SHORTS.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, UH, REGENERON, THE BUILDING, THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. YEAH. JUST TO KICK THINGS OFF WHILE STEVE COMES BACK SOON, THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER. YES, PLEASE.
SO, UM, REGENERON IS MAKING GREAT PROGRESS IN THEIR ASPIRATIONS TO BUILD THE LOGISTICS BUILDING. AND AS YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD HAS ALREADY PROMISED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A WEEK FROM TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY THE 23RD.
UM, REGENERON HAS BEEN WITH THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SOME TIME AND MADE SOME UPDATES AND IMPROVEMENTS TO ITS PROPOSAL.
SO AS PART OF OUR NEW POLICY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UM, GIVING THE BOARD A REFRESH OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE'RE GOING, AND TO SET US UP NICELY FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WILL YOU BE REVIEWING THE, UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION? YOU KNOW, THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION OR. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT RECAP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND A REFRESH OF THE PROJECT IN ITSELF. UM. OKAY.
SO THANKS FOR MEETING WITH US. I'M ANDY KLEIN AND ASSOCIATE DEAN ALAN WEINGARTEN, WISE AND WHITAKER. AND WITH ME TONIGHT IS STEVE SPINA FROM JMC AND KIM MARTIN FROM REGENERON. UM, WE MET WITH THE PLANNING BOARD ON THREE OCCASIONS, AND THEY HAD SOME FEEDBACK ON THE PROJECT THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU BACK, I BELIEVE, IN EARLY MAY. UM, AND SO WE'VE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS. SO WE JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THOSE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO STEVE BECAUSE HE HAS THE PRETTY PICTURES THAT REALLY SHOW WHAT WE'VE DONE.
ALL RIGHT. HELLO EVERYONE. STEVE SPINA WITH JMC. I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION HERE. SO, UM, WE'RE JUST GOING TO RECAP WHERE WE'VE BEEN SINCE WE LAST WERE HERE. SO MOST RECENTLY ON AUGUST 5TH, WE WERE AT THE PLANNING BOARD AND UH, WE WENT THROUGH A FEW MEETINGS WITH THEM STARTING IN, UH, IN JUNE, WHERE WE RECEIVED SOME VERBAL COMMENTS AND SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER THE MEETING. AND WE CAME UP WITH, UH, SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WE MADE, AND THEY WERE WELL RECEIVED. AND THEN THIS BOARD RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION RECENTLY FROM THEM. SO WE'LL GO OVER THOSE CHANGES TONIGHT. BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD, UM, WITH, WITH THE TOWN PLANNING AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND, AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, UH, FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND SEEKER. SO THIS IS A PLAN HERE THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, BUT JUST TO REORIENT EVERYBODY, WE HAD AN APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT IN 2024. UM, WHICH IS KIND OF
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TRACED IN RED. AND THEN OUR LATEST PROPOSAL, UH, BEFORE THE CHANGES MADE TO THE PLAN FROM THE PLANNING BOARD IS IN KIND OF THAT BLUE COLOR. UM, BUT BASICALLY THE PROJECT IS BEING SCALED DOWN. SMALLER BUILDINGS, SMALLER PARKING, LESS DISTURBANCE, LESS TREE REMOVAL, ETC.. UM, AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE DID PRESENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, WAS THAT PLAN BACK ON JUNE 17TH. AND QUICKLY, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, THERE IS A DIAGRAM OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED DRAWINGS FROM THAT JUNE MEETING, UM, WHERE WE HAD, UH, STARTING AT THE TOP LEFT THERE, THE RED AREAS AND EXISTING PARKING AREA TO REMAIN IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER. AND THEN WE HAD THE GREEN, WHICH WAS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT TO BE REMOVED. UH, BUT EITHER GRASS OR, UH, EXISTING PAVEMENT TO BE STRIPED. AND THAT WAS A ROUTE THAT WE WERE ROUTING FROM THE BUILDING DOWN TO THE EXISTING CAMPUS. THEN IN PURPLE WAS THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING. THEN SOUTH OF THAT, IN RED AGAIN, WAS SOME EXISTING PARKING TO REMAIN, UH, FROM THE CURRENT PARKING LOT THAT IS THERE, THAT IS NEEDED TO MEET THE ZONING CODE FOR THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. THEN THE LIGHT GREEN IS SOME EXISTING PARKING THAT WE ASKED TO KEEP FOR ADDITIONAL SPACES BEYOND THE ZONING REQUIREMENT. ANOTHER 28 SPACES AND THEN THE YELLOW AT THE BOTTOM IS THE EXISTING PARKING AREA THAT, UH, INITIALLY WE WERE PROPOSING TO KEEP AS A PERMANENT LOT, UH, BECAUSE IT IS BEING UTILIZED. BUT SINCE THEN, WE DISCUSSED WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND, AND COORDINATED BACK AND FORTH. AND WHAT WE'RE NOW PROPOSING IS THIS CURRENT PLAN HERE, WHICH AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE YELLOW LOOKS THE SAME, BUT WE'RE NOW SAYING WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP THAT PARKING LOT UNTIL THE COMPLETION OF THE CAMPUS EXPANSION PROJECTS, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT. BUT WE DID LIKE THE PARKING LOT. WE WANTED TO KEEP IT FOREVER, BUT WE UNDERSTAND IT'S, UH, NOT DESIRED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. AND, UM, SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO RESTORE IT AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. UM, SOME OTHER CHANGES WE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ON THIS PLAN GOING BACK TOWARDS THE NORTH END. UH, RATHER THAN THAT ROUTE THAT WAS KIND OF USING THE EXISTING PARKING LOT PERIMETER. WE'VE MADE IT A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED AND LESS CIRCUITOUS, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE TOWN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT. UH, RESULTS IN THE ROADWAY NEEDING TO BE RECONSTRUCTED, BUT IT WILL BE, UM, WE WILL KEEP THE RETAINING WALLS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA. WE WILL, UH, BETTER ALIGN THE ROADWAY. IT WILL REDUCE IMPERVIOUS AREA. IT WILL PULL THE IMPERVIOUS AREA AWAY FROM THE WETLAND BUFFER TO THE SOUTH OF THAT GREEN AREA. UH, WE STILL WOULD BE KEEPING THE READ PARKING ALL THE WAY AT THE TOP OF THE SITE. UM, IT WAS EXISTING PARKING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE, UH, THE EXISTING CAMPUS DOWN THERE. SO WE MADE THESE FEW KEY CHANGES TO PARKING AND DRIVEWAY ALIGNMENTS THAT, UH, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HERE.PLANNING BOARD AND ALSO THE THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT. SO THOSE WERE SOME OVERALL CHANGES. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER VIEW HERE OF THE ROUTE THAT WE ARE NOW PROPOSING. UM, WHAT WE WERE PREVIOUSLY DOING WAS TRYING TO KEEP MOST OF THE PARKING LOT, BUT JUST STRIPE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS AREA. NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO REMOVE IT AND PLANT LANDSCAPING AND GRASS. SO, UM, SOME CONCESSIONS WERE MADE. UH, WE THINK IT'S, UH, AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN. AND, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD WAS HAPPY WITH THESE CHANGES. ANOTHER LITTLE CHANGE WE MADE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE THAT, UH, IMAGE IS WE'RE ADDING SECURITY LIFT GATES IN THAT AREA. SO, A PERSON COULDN'T ACCESS THE SITE, CUT THROUGH THIS AREA TO GET ONTO THE CAMPUS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR VEHICLE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A THE CORRECT LICENSE PLATE THAT'S IN THEIR SYSTEM OR A LIFT GATE READER CARD, FOR ACCESS. SO IT REALLY SECURES THE SITE FROM UNWANTED TRAFFIC.
WE'VE ALL DONE THAT. OKAY. UH, THIS IS A NICE VIEW THAT WE HAVE FROM THE FROM THE CONSTRUCTED PARKING GARAGE THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE, UH, REGENERON PMP BUILDING A FEW YEARS AGO. AND YOU COULD JUST SEE THE SIZE OF THE RETAINING WALLS AND THE ROUTE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. UM, SO THE DESIRE TO KEEP THOSE WALLS IN PLACE WAS UNDERSTOOD BY THE PLANNING BOARD AFTER VISITING THE SITE, SEEING WHAT IS THERE.
AND THEN AND THEN THIS PICTURE REALLY HELPED, UM, DESCRIBE IT.
BUT IT'S IT'S A NICE IMAGE SHOWING, YOU KNOW, AN
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APPROXIMATE, UH, ISOMETRIC VIEW OF WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE WAY OFF IN THE DISTANCE. AND THEN AGAIN, THAT ROUTE THROUGH THE PARKING AREA. UH, A FEW OTHER MINOR CHANGES WE MADE TO THE SITE, WHICH ARE CLOUDED IN, UH, THOSE LITTLE ORANGE CLOUDS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE THE UPPER CLOUD THERE WHERE WE'RE ADDING A SMALL MEDIAN FOR SOME LIFT GATES FOR SECURITY PURPOSES IN THAT ROADWAY. AND THEN, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, LANDSCAPE ALONG THE, UH, ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY HERE. THERE ARE SOME EASEMENTS THAT ARE. UM, TOWN WATER MAIN AND YELLOW AND, UH, AND VERIZON, UH, COMMUNICATION EASEMENT IN BLUE, UH, THAT BASICALLY RUN FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE EDGE OF THE CURB THAT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED AS THE PARKING LOT. SO, UM, YOU CAN'T PLANT TREES IN THERE. UH, FOR REASONS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN ACCESS, UH, TO A UTILITY THAT MAY NEED TO BE REPLACED. YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE TREES GROWING OVER A WATER MAIN OR A COMMUNICATION LINE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING SHRUBS. UM, THERE IS A FENCE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO SCREEN THAT AREA WE PLANTED.WE'RE PROPOSING TREES WHERE WE CAN. UM, SO THOSE CHANGES WERE ADDED TO THE PLANS AS WELL, SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THEM TO PROVIDE MORE SCREENING IN THIS AREA. UH, WHICH WHICH IS IN FRONT OF THE PARKING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP, UH, PERMANENTLY. AND THEN ONE LAST SLIDE HERE IS THE NORTH SIDE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ROADWAY REALIGNMENT JUST JUST SHOWS THE LANDSCAPING CHANGES WE MADE. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. SO WE'RE NOW PROPOSING INSTEAD OF HAVING PEOPLE WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO WALK ON THE ROADWAY HERE THIS SHORT DISTANCE, THERE'S SOME CROSSWALKS, UH, TO A MULCH TRAIL THAT'LL KIND OF MEANDER THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING HERE. SO WE'VE ADDED THOSE COUPLE OF FEATURES AS WELL. UH, BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING BOARD AND THAT'S IT.
IN TERMS OF THE LANDSCAPING, FOR INSTANCE, SUGGESTED THAT THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT, UM, WHERE IT CREATED AN ISSUE TO HAVE TREES AND INSTEAD YOU'RE PLANTING SHRUBS. UM, ONE OF THE FUNCTIONS OF THE TREES IS THAT THEY ABSORB A LOT OF WATER. UM, SO IS THERE A TENSION TO THAT OR DO YOU NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO COMBAT WATER IN THE ROADWAY OR, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREAS THAT MEANDERING THROUGH THAT PARK AREA? OH, THIS HERE, ON. THIS SLIDE HERE.
NO, I IT IT'S OVERALL A HIGH POINT. UM, THERE'S REALLY NO LOW LYING AREAS HERE WHERE, WHERE WATER WOULD ACCUMULATE.
UM, WE ARE, UH, THE SLOPE OF THIS AREA WILL GO FROM WHERE THE, UH, PATH IS, AND IT WILL HEAD DOWN INTO THE LEFT TOWARDS THAT WETLAND AREA. EVERYTHING SORT OF DRAINS THAT WAY. NOW.
UM, SO WE WOULD JUST BE, UH, RIGHT ALONG THE EDGE WHERE THE ROADWAY IS PUTTING A SIDEWALK WITH MULCH. UM, WE'VE GRADED IT SO THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE MUCH ACCUMULATION OF ANY WATER THERE. UM, I THINK THE TREES WILL DO FINE. UM, IN THAT LOCATION. THEY ARE PICKING UP QUITE A BIT OF GREEN SPACE. UM, IN THE VIEW THERE AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, WHICH WAS TAKEN SO THAT.. YEAH.
THAT HELPS FOR THE WALKING THROUGH THE MEANDERING THROUGH THE GRASSY AREA. BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE.
SO, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ANY FEEDBACK YOU GUYS HAVE WOULD BE GREAT. WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT TONIGHT.
UM, TO HELP US PREPARE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, BUT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO GIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE 23RD. WELL, I'M REALLY THRILLED THAT REGENERON IS CONTINUING TO DO WORK IN THE TOWN. YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG. AND I WISH YOU WOULD KEEP BUILDING MORE AND MORE AND.
MORE. YOU KNOW, DON'T GO TO MOUNT PLEASANT. UM, BUT, UM, BUT NO, I THINK YOU'VE REALLY BEEN A TREMENDOUS ASSET. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE GOOD RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED WITH THE TOWN AS WELL. YES. YEAH. IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY GREAT WORKING WITH GARRETT AND HIS STAFF AND, AND AND THE BOARDS AS WELL. HOW MUCH DID GARRETT.
PAY YOU. TO SAY THAT? IF HE'S PAID ME, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.
HE PAID YOU A COMPLIMENT? NO, WE THINK I THINK THIS.
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IS REALLY GOOD. I THINK HE COULD OUTLINE EVERYTHING I WOULDN'T NEED TO SEE, SO I THINK YOU. I THINK.YOU'RE ON A GUY THAT WAS CLEAR, CONCISE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.
OKAY. SO, UM. WE'LL WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU.
IT'S AMAZING. OKAY. NEXT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE BETHEL KNOLLS, 55 GRASSLANDS ROAD HOST PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION. I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE ON ZOOM. ON ZOOM? SO PROBABLY THE STAR OF THE NIGHT.
ANOTHER CHAIR. SURE. WHAT IS THAT? OH. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU WANT A CHAIR? NO. BECAUSE HIS COMING DOWN.
GARY. CAN YOU JUST PULL A COUPLE OF CHAIRS FOR THE GENTLEMAN, PLEASE? THANK YOU. PLEASE. YOU GUYS HEAR ME? PLEASE. GO AHEAD. ON. OKAY. YEAH.
NEED ME TO COME. DOWN? YES. CAN YOU HEAR US? ARE YOU GOOD? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW ME YOUR HANDS.
OKAY. I'LL JUST SAY HELLO, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. GOOD TO SEE YOU. MY. OH, SORRY. I'M SITTING ALL DAY LIKE THAT. GOOD TO SEE YOU. DAVID COOPER, AND IT WILL BE AGAIN. I THINK I WILL SEE DAVID COOPER FROM AARON AND STEINMETZ HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH ME IS ANASTASIOS MARKOPOLOS, THE CEO, AND JAY MICHAEL RAFIKI, THE PROJECT ENGINEER AND MY COLLEAGUE VINCENT BERTONE. UH, ON THE SCREEN WITH US AND PROBABLY, AS I SAID, THE START TONIGHT, COLETTE DELAURO FROM LANGE AND ENGINEERING. UM, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT REALLY TO TALK ABOUT THE OR. WE WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON THE SITE AND THE PLAN TO CAPTURE AND TREAT STORMWATER FROM THE PROJECT OR THE IMPROVEMENT AREA. UM, TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE SCIENCE. AND SO I'M REALLY GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO, TO COLETTE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PLAN AND THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. BUT COLETTE, WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND GO THROUGH, UM, THE STORMWATER. YEAH. CERTAINLY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UH, SO TO START US OFF, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE, THE SITE AND THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE OFF OF GRASSLANDS ROAD. UM, AND BORDERED TO THE EAST BY STEVENS LANE. UM, FURTHER EAST IS THEN, UH, HILLSIDE AVENUE. UH, SO THIS IS THE SITE WE'RE ADDING THIS NEW BUILDING EXPANSION WITH RELOCATED ROADWAY, AND WE HAVE, UM, A NEW INFILTRATION BASIN BEING INSTALLED TO THE NORTH OF THE NEW BUILDING EXPANSION. SO AS WE FOCUS ON THIS INFILTRATION BASIN, I WANT TO SHARE, TRYING TO SHARE, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE AREAS THAT WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION DURING OUR ASSESSMENT. SO WE LOOK AT THE AREAS OF IN THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION, UH, SCENARIO. SO THIS BREAKS DOWN THE DRAINAGE AREAS AND THEN WE ASSIGN THESE DESIGN POINTS WHICH ARE THE BASIS OF OUR ANALYSIS. SO WE LOOK AT EACH DESIGN POINT THAT IS GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY THE LOW POINT OF EACH AREA. AND THE GOAL AS REQUIRED BY THE DC IS TO EITHER MAINTAIN THE AMOUNT OF STORMWATER GOING TO EACH LOW POINT OR TO REDUCE IT THERE. WHILE THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO REDUCE IT, THE IDEA IS TO MAINTAIN IT. WE ARE FOR THIS PROJECT, REDUCING THE STORM FLOW GOING TO EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS. UM, SO THE AREA THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS JUST A KEY, UM, AREA THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF. UM, BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSITIVE AREA BECAUSE THERE IS A ADJACENT NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH OF THIS CONTRIBUTING AREA. SO IN THE PROPOSED CONDITION. SO THIS IS THE SAME DRAINAGE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DIVIDED UP A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BASED ON THE PROPOSED DRAINAGE, AREAS AND THE LOW POINTS. ALSO ADDING IN THE INFILTRATION BASIN, WHICH
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IS UP HERE. UM, AND WHAT WE SEE IS WE'VE REDUCED THE CONTRIBUTING AREA TO THIS NEIGHBOR. SO DRAINAGE AREA 30, UH, BY HALF. SO IT WENT FROM 1.6 ACRES, CONTRIBUTING AREA TO 0.8 ACRES, CONTRIBUTING AREA. UM, BEFORE I GET INTO ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING FOR STORMWATER DESIGN, I DO BRIEFLY WANT TO POINT ON THE VALUES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE OUR STORM EVENTS. ON THE LEFT WE HAVE OUR DESIGN POINTS. SO THIS IS FOR EACH AREA 12341 BEING UM, THIS POINT HERE WHERE THERE IS AN EXISTING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BASIN, TWO BEING THERE'S A LOW POINT IN GRASSLANDS ROAD WHERE SOME OF THE SITE DISCHARGES TO UM, DESIGN POINT THREE, WHICH IS ALONG STEVENS LANE, AND THEN DESIGN POINT FOUR, WHICH IS AGAIN, THE PROPERTIES. IT'S WHERE OUR ADJACENT PROPERTY LINE IS TO THE NEIGHBORS ON STEVENS LANE AS WELL. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR DESIGN POINTS AND WE LOOK AT THE PRECONDITION VERSUS THE POST CONDITION, AND YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE, EVERY SINGLE ONE HERE IS NEGATIVE. OBVIOUSLY SOME AREAS ARE GOING TO HAVE A GREATER IMPACT THAN OTHERS. BUT IN EVERY CASE WE ARE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF STORMWATER THAT IS GOING TO EACH OF THESE POINTS BECAUSE OF OUR PROPOSED STORMWATER DESIGN.UM, SO IF WE GO BACK TO OUR PROPOSED STORMWATER DESIGN.
I'LL JUST STOP YOU RIGHT THERE FOR ONE SECOND JUST TO LET THE BOARD KNOW I DID. THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE SWEATY. I WAS RUNNING OVER HERE, BUT I DID PRINT OUT THOSE FIRST FOUR SLIDES FOR THE BOARD. IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT. IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH. UM, BUT SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT I JUST. WE HAVE THEM FOR YOU GUYS. YEAH.
OKAY. SO, UH, JUST TO CONTINUE ON. SO, YES, YOU HAVE THE THE PLANS IN FRONT OF YOU. NOW, YOU CAN SEE THE AREAS AND KIND OF COMPARE HOW THEY'VE REDUCED. UM, NOW KIND OF GETTING INTO MORE OF THE STORMWATER DESIGN ITSELF. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEW BUILDING EXPANSION AND THE RELOCATED ROADWAY IS ALL GOING TO THIS INFILTRATION BASIN. ORIGINALLY, OUR PIPE DESIGN WAS FOR, UH, TEN, TEN YEAR DESIGN STORM. UH, WE THEN INCREASED THAT TO A 25 YEAR DESIGN STORM AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TOWN. UM, THEN AS A, YOU KNOW, FURTHER, I GUESS, TO TO MAKE THE TOWN OR THE PUBLIC FEEL BETTER FOR SOME REASON. UH, WE'VE AGREED TO DO A 100 YEAR, UH, STORM FOR THE CONVEYANCE PIPES. THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO. I WILL SAY, IN MY 15 YEARS OF BEING IN THIS CAREER, I HAVE NEVER DESIGNED FOR 100 YEAR STORM. UM, AND WE'VE HAD AT THIS POINT, TWO TOWN ENGINEERS REVIEW THESE PLANS. THEY ALSO AGREED IT WAS OVER DESIGNED. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WE DO WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PROJECT, EVEN IF IT MEANS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. UM, JUST ON REGARD HERE.
EXCUSE ME. SO YOU MENTIONED YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO YOU SAID YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF WE RECOGNIZE OR WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING 200 YEAR, 300 YEAR STORMS. SO WE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING NOWADAYS AND HOW CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAPPENING, WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT BECAUSE IT USED TO BE 100 YEAR STORMS, BUT NOW THEY ARE EXCEEDING THAT. SO I I'M SORRY. IT TOOK ME ABACK WHEN IT WAS LIKE, WELL, GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE. IT'S JUST THIS IS WHAT THE REALITY IS.
THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE 200, THREE YEAR HUNDRED STORMS. AND AS THE TOWN IS TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FIGHT AGAINST MOTHER NATURE. I JUST THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING. IT WAS SAID.
SO, COLETTE, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORICAL RIGHT.
YEAH, YEAH. OF COURSE. SO IN LOOKING AT, UM, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, THERE ARE RAIN GAUGES PLACED AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND THESE RAIN GAUGES PROVIDE DATA TO NOAA TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THERE'S THE PROPER DATA FOR US ENGINEERS, UM, TO DO OUR JOBS CORRECTLY.
SO THE HIGHEST RAINFALL EVENT IN THE PAST THREE YEARS WAS 4.1IN OVER 24 HOURS. OUR INFILTRATION BASIN AND THE 100
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YEAR STORM IS 9.1IN. SO THAT'S A FIVE INCH DIFFERENTIAL FROM WHAT IS BEING SEEN, YOU KNOW, FROM THOSE RAIN GAUGES IN REALITY. AND THEN WHAT IS AN 100 YEAR STORM? WHAT MIGHT MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE FLOODING EXACERBATED IS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ROADWAYS OR THE LAWS BACK IN THE 70S AND 60S WERE NOT FORECASTING FOR THESE EVENTS. SO NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING INSTALLED TO HANDLE LARGER STORMS. BUT THE DECK, YOU KNOW, THE STATE DECK REQUIRES TEN YEAR DESIGN STORM FOR PIPES. SO.UM, YEAH, SORRY. GO AHEAD. SO WE KNOW THAT THE STATE DECK IS IS KIND OF BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, BUT SO IS FEMA, WHICH IS WHAT REALLY DICTATES. WHAT THEY SAY IS THE TOWN TO YOUR TO YOUR CREDIT, TO THIS BOARD'S CREDIT PLANNING BOARD'S CREDIT AND ALSO TOWN ENGINEER'S CREDIT PUSHED THIS DESIGN MUCH FURTHER. SO EVEN THOUGH THE DC SAYING TEN YEAR STORM AND I THINK YOUR TOWN REGULATIONS SAY 25 YEAR STORM, THEY SAID GO TO THE 100 YEAR STORM. BUT EVEN EVEN AT THAT DESIGN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL NUMBERS OF THE RAIN, WHEN WE SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A 400 YEAR STORM, I THINK SCIENTIFICALLY OR HOWEVER THEY CALCULATE IT, IT PROBABLY ISN'T A 200 400 YEAR STORM BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S. BUT BUT TO US IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS RAINING CATS AND DOGS. I'VE NEVER SEEN IT LIKE THAT. THOSE NUMBERS ARE, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR INCH PER HOUR NUMBER IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE READINGS. IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR. NOW THAT BASIN IS GOING TO MAINTAIN ALL THAT WATER.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF OUR ESTEEMED ENGINEER? UM, SO WHEN WE'VE OF LATE, THE STORMS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WHERE THE ACCUMULATION, AS YOU MENTIONED, FOR INCHES AND CHANGE IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD WHERE THE GROUND BECOMES TOTALLY SATURATED AND CAN'T ABSORB ANY MORE. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE LOGISTICS OF HOW THAT WORKS AND HOW THAT FEEDS INTO THE RETENTION POND? YES, 100%. SO BASED ON THE DCS REQUIREMENTS FOR RUNNING INFILTRATION TESTS, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PRE SOAK THE GROUND FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO REPLICATE THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF. SO WHAT THEY WANT US TO GET IS AN INFILTRATION RATE WITH ALREADY PRE SOAKED GROUND TO REPLICATE REPLICATE. IF YOU HAVE ONE STORM YOU KNOW CONSECUTIVE STORMS THAT YOU ARE GETTING, RATES THAT ARE FOR THAT EVENT.
SO EVEN AFTER WE PRECEPT THE GROUND WE WERE OBTAINING INFILTRATION RATES THAT WERE 15IN AN HOUR. UM THEY WERE MORE BUT WE'LL JUST CALL THEM 15IN AN HOUR, ROUND DOWN. UM, AND THIS BASIN WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR A TEN INCH PER HOUR RATE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE MAXIMUM THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DESIGN FOR BY THE DC. SO IN EFFECT, THERE WILL BE SOME RUNOFF, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO, UM, TOTAL REMEDIATION POSSIBLE FOR FLOODING.
RIGHT? I KNOW I THINK IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I THINK WHAT COLETTE IS SAYING IS, IS THAT THE DECK SAYS YOU CAN ONLY ASSUME AT MOST THE GROUND WILL. YES, WILL ABSORB TEN INCHES.
PER HOUR. OH. I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THAT.
I'M SORRY. SO THE DESIGN IS ACTUALLY RIGHT. THE DESIGN ASSUMES TEN INCHES. ALTHOUGH IN REALITY THE TESTS ARE SHOWING 15IN. SO IT'S BETTER THAN I. GOTCHA.
YEAH. OKAY. UH, WHEN YOU WERE DESIGNING, YOU KNOW, THE FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORTS, UH, DID YOUR CONSULTANTS COME UP WITH ANY OTHER THINGS THAT THE TOWN COULD DO? NOT, YOU KNOW, DO. BUT ARE THERE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE TOWN BOARD WOULD WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, ANY APPROVALS? UH, WE WILL UNDERTAKE ON OUR OWN ADDITIONAL INITIATIVES TO ADDRESS FLOODING BECAUSE I SORT OF, UM, WOULD LIKE TO GO EVEN BEYOND, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO AND REALLY SEE IF WE COULD MAKE A REALLY BIG, POSITIVE DENT IN ADDRESSING THE FLOODING ISSUES THAT IMPACT THAT AREA. WELL, I THINK YOUR ENGINEERS WOULD AGREE, AND I'M PRETTY SURE COLETTE WOULD WOULD AGREE.
BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE WATERSHED AT THIS SITE, WITH THIS PROJECT, WHAT WE'RE DOING ON WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING ON ITS OWN DIME, UM, IS GOING TO BE IMPROVE FLOODING IN THIS
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AREA. UM, THE I KNOW THERE WERE THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS. THE FIRST PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT OTHER, OTHER WATERSHEDS AND OTHER AREAS OF THE OF THE THE TOWN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT. WE DID NOT DESIGN TO THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT AN IMPACT OF THE PROJECT. CAN WE TALK TO THAT THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT IS THE ISSUE FOR RE. UM, JUST IN TERMS OF BEING PROACTIVE AND MAYBE SOME FUTURE THING OR SOMEHOW, YES, THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO DISCUSS, AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT, AS YOU SAID, IS THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HILL AND THE RUNOFF GOES DOWNHILL TOWARDS KNOLLWOOD, TOWARDS THE RETENTION POND, THE HILLSIDE RESIDENTS AND THE ADJACENT AREA, STEVENS, ARE COMPLAINING OF FLOODING. UM, YOU MENTIONED THE OTHER NIGHT THAT THAT PROPERTY IS NOT THE PROPERTY OF BETHEL WOODS. UM, IN ITS ENTIRETY. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARITY, BUT SOME OF IT IS. SO IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE SOME CLARITY TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CAN HELP THAT SITUATION AS WELL.SO, COLETTE, I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT. YEAH, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT SCREEN NOW. YOU COULD SEE IT.
YEAH. UM, SO I THINK THE BEST WAY TO TO TO START APPROACHING THAT ANSWER IS GOING THROUGH THE, THE WATERSHED IN THE AREA OR WATERSHEDS IN THE AREA. FIRST FROM THE SITE AND THEN AND THEN GOING OUT. AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, UH, TALK ABOUT ONE THE, UH, WELL, LET'S GO THROUGH THE WATERSHEDS AND THEN I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE KNOLLS PROPERTY ALONG THE HILLSIDE. BUT THEN THE LARGER ISSUE OF OF WHERE IS THE FLOODING COMING FROM? YEAH, BUT GO AHEAD, COLETTE. SO THE RED IS A HIGHER ELEVATION. THE GREEN IS THE LOWER ELEVATION. AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE, OBVIOUSLY, IT GOES FROM ORANGE TO YELLOW. UM. AND CAN YOU JUST LOWER, LOWER ELEVATION.
JUST TELL US WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THIS DATA FROM SO THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE. SAME PAGE. OH, SORRY. THIS IS FROM MAPPING WESTCHESTER COUNTY, UM, WHICH IS A PUBLIC RESOURCE, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, PARCELS AND TOPOGRAPHY AND ELEVATIONS. THEY HAVE A GREAT MODEL HERE, UM, WHICH REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAPS ALL OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY. AND THE ELEVATIONS, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTY. SO IT'S A REALLY GREAT RESOURCE. UM, AND SO BASICALLY, FOR OUR SITE, THIS IS THE EXISTING KNOLLS FACILITY. THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE EXTENDING INTO. SO TO THE NORTH OF THE KNOLLS, UM, AND THEN DOWN HERE YOU CAN SEE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT YELLOW. THIS IS A, A BIT OF A LOWER POINT. SO WE ARE ALL OF OUR STORMWATER IS GOING TO THIS SPOT WHICH WE'VE STRATEGICALLY PLACED OUR INFILTRATION BASIN BECAUSE IT FOLLOWS THE NATURAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SLOPE OF THE SITE. UM, AND HYDROLOGY OF THE SITE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'VE PLACED OUR BASIN. AND AS YOU ZOOM OUT, WHAT WE'LL SEE IS THERE'S A BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR SITE AND THE AND THE GROVE PROPERTY IS ON THIS HIGH KIND OF LIKE PLATEAU. AND THEN THERE IS A RIDGE HERE. AND AS YOU GET TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, GRASSLANDS AND THEN IT TURNS INTO HILLSIDE AS WE ZOOM OUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE GREATER TOWN. THIS AREA OF THE TOWN, AS YOU GO DOWN HILLSIDE, IS THE LOWEST POINT OR ONE OF THE LOWER POINTS IN COMPARISON TO THE GREATER AREA. SO IT IS BASICALLY A LOW POINT OF MILES OF WATERSHED THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO HILLSIDE AVENUE. SO IT'S A MUCH GREATER, YOU KNOW, ISSUE, I GUESS. AND THEN THEN WE CAN CONTROL. THE REASON WHY WE THOUGHT THIS WAS INFORMATIVE NOT FOR OUR PROJECT, BUT FOR THE DISCUSSION IS THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE STANDING UP AND SAYING, MY, MY, MY BASEMENTS OR MY FIRST FLOORS ARE GETTING FLOODED, AND THEN KIND OF SAYING, OH, IT HAS TO BE COMING FROM THE KNOLLS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WATER IS COMING FROM EVERYWHERE AND KIND OF LANDING THERE. AND SO, UM, FROM A, FROM
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A, JUST A THRESHOLD ISSUE OF, OF WHERE'S THE WATER COMING FROM? IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE FIX OF, OKAY, ONE PROJECT CAN DO SOMETHING HERE. WHAT I WOULD SAY WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE, UM, THE DOT LAND AND THE HILLSIDE, THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE KNOLLS PROPERTY IS SPLIT, RIGHT. THERE'S THERE'S THE DEVELOPED AREA AND THEN THERE'S THE 14. NOPE. KEEP GOING UP A LITTLE BIT. OH, YEAH. YEP. THERE YOU GO. THERE'S THE DEVELOPED AREA. AND THEN THERE'S THE 14 ACRE UNDEVELOPED AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO FILE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER. UM, ALTHOUGH RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL UNDEVELOPED ANYWAY. BUT BUT WILL REMAIN SO IN PERPETUITY. THE OTHER DEVELOPED AREAS ON OTHER PROPERTIES, ARE, ARE DRAINING. AND IT DOES AT SOME POINT TOUCH THE KNOLLS PROPERTY ON ONTO KNOLLWOOD. BUT THAT'S JUST THAT IN THAT ONE AREA REALLY BY LAWRENCE DRIVE. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE WATER. I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS FROM BELMAR, WHICH IS MUCH FURTHER, NOT MUCH FURTHER, BUT IT'S FURTHER SOUTH. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THE FLOODING THEY'RE EXPERIENCING, I THINK IS IS AND GRANTED, I'M JUST AN ATTORNEY. I'M NOT NOT THE ENGINEER. BUT BUT I JUST THINK THE PICTURE WOULD LEAD ONE TO, TO CONCLUDE THAT IT'S COMING FROM A GREATER, GREATER AREA. UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WAS BEING WE THINK WHAT WAS BEING MIXED WAS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT'S HITTING THE RIDGE THERE, AND THEN AND THEN GOING BACK ONTO THE KNOLLS PROPERTY VERSUS WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS LARGER, THIS LARGER RATIO? UM, SO AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, STILL NOT STILL NOT THE PROJECT ISN'T GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO INCREASE THAT. IT'S IT'S THE WATER IS GOING IT WAS GOING TO BE CAPTURED AND PUT ELSEWHERE AS TO THE NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT'S BEEN BEEN.
AND MOST DEVELOPMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, CAN'T INFILTRATE.
SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO INFILTRATE JUST MEANS THAT THIS AREA IS BEING TAKEN COMPLETELY OFFLINE FROM THE GREENBERG SEWER SYSTEM. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ACRES OF AREA THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE WATER IS JUST GOING WHEREVER IT'S GOING TO GO. AND WE ARE NOW CONTROLLING THAT. AND, AND, AND KEEPING IT ON SITE, MAINTAINING IT ON SITE. SO IT'S NO LONGER CONTRIBUTING TO THIS GREATER TRIBUTARY AREA..
AT THE HEARING, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK ANOTHER POINT WAS MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NOLES OWNS PROPERTY WHERE THERE'S BEEN TREE, YOU KNOW, TREES THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, FALLEN AND BUT IT'S AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION OF THE NOLES PROPERTY. UM, AND THE POINT WAS RAISED BY SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE AT THE HEARING. TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY SHOULD THE TOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD THIS WHEN THIS CONDITIONS IN OTHER PARTS OF YOUR PROPERTY THAT ARE NOT BASICALLY BEING MAINTAINED. AND I'M, I WAS SORT OF THINKING SINCE THE HEARING, WOULD YOU BE WILLING IF WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LIKE, DO YOU KNOW, LIKE AN INVENTORY OF THE TREES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FACING THE AL-AHMAR AND THEN IF THERE'S EVEN THOUGH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT AND BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET APPROVALS, WE AS A SIGN OF GOOD FAITH, WE'LL DO AN INVENTORY. AND THERE'S TREES THAT ARE IN DANGER OF FALLING. WE WILL HAVE THEM HAVE THEM REMOVED, BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY, IF WE COULD ADDRESS THE FLOODING AND WE COULD ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THE TREE ISSUES, THOSE ARE TWO BIG ISSUES THAT I THINK PEOPLE WOULD HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT.
SO IF I FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. SO, SO THE, THE, THE TREES THAT WERE DOWN IN THE AREA, UM, WE, WE ARE SURVEYING THAT AREA BECAUSE A BUNCH OF BUNCH OF BUNCH OF THOSE TREES ARE, WE BELIEVE ARE IN D.O.T. THE RIGHT OF WAY, NOT THE KNOWLES PROPERTY. REGARDLESS. UM, YES. THE, THE, THE THE RUNOFF THAT CAUSED THAT, THAT RIDGE TO COME TO FALL DOWN, WHICH IS NOW WHERE THE KNOWLES BUILT THAT WALL. UM, THAT'S NOT COMING FROM ANYTHING ON THE ON THE KNOWLES SITE. THE, THE THERE'S NO DISTURBANCE WITHIN THAT AREA THAT THE KNOWLES COULD COME IN AND IMPROVE BECAUSE IT'S NEIGHBOR'S WATER THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY FLOWING ONTO OUR PROPERTY. THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE, UM, THE DOT AND THE TOWN PROSECUTOR, BECAUSE WE ARE IN COURT WITH VARIOUS OTHER, UH, LANDOWNERS THERE ARE LOOKING ARE LOOKING AT HOW TO HOW TO IMPROVE THAT,
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THAT THAT LINE OF DRAINAGE. I AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT LINE OF DRAINAGE IS ACTUALLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO FLOODING IN THEIR BASEMENTS, ETC.. BUT BUT THE POINT BEING, COULD WE MAKE THAT, UM, THAT RIDGE OR THOSE TREES TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE ON KNOWLES PROPERTY, AT LEAST IDENTIFY THEM AND TAKE OUT THOSE THAT ARE THAT ARE UNHEALTHY? YES. YEAH, WE.DO THAT. SO SO DID I JUST UNDERSTAND YOU THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES? BECAUSE THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
AND YOU KNOW. SO WE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MENTION. WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTS ALTHOUGH UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN'T COME UP YOU KNOW THE ROADS OKAY. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTS HERE WHO, WHO WHO DISAGREE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN JUST ADDRESS THAT REALLY QUICKLY ON THAT AREA. AND I KNOW YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR.
THERE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW. YEAH.
REALLY WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, SIX ENGINEERS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, THIS PLAN AND NOT ONE OF THEM HAS SAID.
I'M JUST TALKING, I'M HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. THAT'S A DISAGREEMENT. RIGHT. AND TO.
TALK. A DISAGREEMENT ON THAT, I'M JUST SAYING HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS. ABOUT THIS ISSUE, ABOUT THE.
YEAH, WELL, WELL. ABOUT YOU, JUST AS I POINTED OUT, YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, LETTING THE NEIGHBORS KNOW, LOOK, THIS IS NOT AN ANSWER YET. AND THIS MAY NOT BE THE ANSWER, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. LET THEM KNOW. KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP ON THAT.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? SINCE I KNOW WE HAVE A PROCEDURE WHERE WE USUALLY DON'T LET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SPEAK FROM THE RESIDENTS, BUT THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE HERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF, SINCE YOU'RE HERE AND THEY'RE HERE, IF THEY MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. TO ASK QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO MY THE WATERSHED BY MY. YEAH. OKAY. CAN I JUST POINT OUT THE ROLE THAT IT'S BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR QUITE SOME TIME? I JUST WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW. PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT PERMITTED AT WORK, TOWN BOARD WORK SESSIONS UNLESS THE TOWN BOARD SOLICITS PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED TO A SPECIFIC WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM. SO IT IS. BUT I'M JUST.
SAYING UP TO THE. BOARD SUPERVISOR, MR. SUPERVISOR. MR. SUPERVISOR, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE WORK SESSION RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY. CAN.
THE ONLY REASON, THE ONLY REASON I'M SUGGESTING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, ARE THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE ASKED TO MEET WITH ME. AND THE THING IS, I WOULD FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO. AND I SAID, I'LL MEET WITH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, INDIVIDUALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMING WEEKS. AND I. FEEL LIKE, WHY DON'T WE JUST.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY. THEY DON'T DISAGREE.
LIKE, YOU HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE TOWN.
DON'T BELIEVE. SO. WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE THEM? WE AGREE.
GIVE THEM FIVE MINUTES. EVERYONE AGREE? THE ONLY THING THE WHAT KEPT BEING DISCUSSED? 22 VIOLATIONS. APPARENTLY IT'S TWO VIOLATIONS. BUT YOU GOT AN EXTRA VIOLATION EVERY DAY THAT THE. WELL, THIS. YEAH. THIS IS THE.
SO I, I, I AM IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFICULT POSITION AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE NOLES WHEN THERE'S A, WHEN THERE'S A VIOLATION IN PENDING IN TOWN COURT AGAINST US BUT ALSO OTHERS IN WHICH THE TOWN TO ITS CREDIT WOULD LIKE US AND OTHERS TO OTHERS BEING PROPERTY OWNERS WITH VIOLATIONS. NOT NOT NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, BUT THE, UH, TO SIT DOWN AND TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. IT TAKES BOTH PARTIES TO SIT DOWN AND WORK SOMETHING OUT. NOW, YOU'VE SEEN WHAT THE NOLES HAS DONE AND WE'RE WILLING TO WORK, BUT BUT WE NEED BOTH PARTIES TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT. SO. RIGHT. UM, THE, THE THE ISSUE WITH THE, UM, STORMWATER IS NOT IT'S NOT JUST THE NOLES CAN'T ON ITS OWN REDIRECT THAT STORMWATER BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMING FROM OUR PROPERTY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTOOD THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SUGGESTING THAT. THAT THE THE ISSUE, THE ISSUE BEING WE CAN CERTAINLY SIT DOWN WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS. I DON'T THINK THAT I THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR OTHER THINGS THAT THAT. WELL.
WE CAN DETERMINE THAT BY HAVING THEM COME UP.
I THINK. IT'S OUR HANDS. OUR OUR HANDS ARE OUR HANDS ARE TIED WITH RESPECT TO THAT SIDE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT OUR WATER. WE OTHERS WOULD NEED TO BE BROUGHT IN FOR THAT. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THE PROJECT TO BE SLOWED DOWN BECAUSE OF IT. I THINK. I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT THIS IS A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD WITH.
WITH WELL. THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE STORMWATER CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE ARE DIRECTLY PART OF THE STORMWATER REMEDIATION THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. RIGHT, THAT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP SEPARATE OUT THE OR BRING IT TOGETHER, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
SO YOU CAN THE CLOSEST. NEIGHBOR. THAT'S ONE OF OUR
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CONCERNS, BUT ALSO. WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HEARD ON. ON COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, COME. ON. WE'RE TRYING.TO OPEN IT ON. WE'RE FINE TO LIMIT OUR CONCERNS. JUST WHAT IS IT. COMING UP.
COME ON PLEASE. IS THAT WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO TO USE THE PODIUM AS WELL? YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S EASY. JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN UP. YOU KNOW.
WE AS A CLOSEST NEIGHBOR OF STORMWATER IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS. BUT ALSO YOU HAVE. THE INTO THE MICROPHONE.
EDGE BROOK THAT AREN'T REALLY OR MORE IS I GUESS ONE BOARD MEMBER. OH GO AHEAD SHERRY. YEAH. SO IN UM STORMWATER I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I, UM, CALL THAT THE ENGINEER SHOWED THE PICTURE ABOUT THE ONE THAT GOES TOWARDS OUR HOUSE. IT ALSO GOES TOWARDS OUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. SO I WROTE A LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD SEVERAL, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UM, IN RESPONSE TO COLETTE'S LETTER, UM, ABOUT STORMWATER AND I, I'VE NEVER RECEIVED ANSWERS ON THAT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M OKAY. SO IF MAYBE SHE COULD BRING THAT THAT PICTURE UP ABOUT THE NEXT TO MY HOUSE. THE ONE THAT SHOWED, LIKE THE WATERSHED. AND YOU SAID IT WAS GOING FROM LIKE 1.6, TO POINT EIGHT. SO THERE WAS A QUESTION. SO I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THAT REDUCED THAT REDUCES SOMEHOW BY THIS PROJECT. BUT THE POINT BEING THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT A WHOLE LOT OF TREES THERE, BEING MATURE TREES, AND I KNOW YOU'RE THE PLAN IS TO REPLACE IT WITH A LOT OF SMALLER TREES, BUT IT'S NOT A ONE FOR ONE IN TERMS OF THE WATER SOP UP. SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I DID RESEARCH ON MY OWN. IT'S LIKE IT COULD BE A MATURE TREE, CAN SOP UP LIKE 20 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF WATER AS A LITTLE TREE. SO I WAS LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO THAT. I ALSO BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT ORIGINALLY FOR THE SITE, THAT WAS BEFORE THE KNOLLS, WESTCHESTER MEADOWS, AND I KNOW THAT THE KNOLLS TEAM WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE STORMWATER PLAN FOR THAT ORIGINAL FOR THEIR SITE. TODAY.
OUR UNDERSTANDING IS FROM OLD DRAWINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT.
IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DEVICE IN THAT EXACT AREA? AND MY NEIGHBOR, MY DIRECT NEIGHBOR AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIND IT. IT'S CALLED A ROCK FILLED STILLING POND, AND THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED IN MY RESPONSE LETTER THAT I HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY ANSWER TO.
MY THIRD QUESTION IS ALL ABOUT MAINTENANCE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOLES TRACK RECORD ON ON MAINTENANCE. THAT'S NO SURPRISE. EVEN THE MOST PERFECT STORMWATER SYSTEM IS NOT GOING TO FUNCTION IF THERE IS NOT EXPLICIT MAINTENANCE FAITHFULLY ON THAT SYSTEM. SO IT CAN BE ABSOLUTELY THE BIG THE BIG BASIN CAN BE PERFECT AND PERFECT PIPES AND EVERYTHING. BUT IF YOU LET IT CLOG UP AND NOBODY COMES AND AND AND REMOVES THE STUFF FROM THE DRAIN, WHERE'S IT GOING? IT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS GRASSLANDS AND AND HIT VALDEMAR OR IT'S GOING TO GO TO, TO MY HOUSE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION. I'D ALSO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE DOES THE SNOW GO WHEN IT GETS PLOWED? THAT'S GOING TO FALL OVER ON THE, THE, THE BIG TREES THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT. AND, YOU KNOW, I QUESTION WHETHER THOSE TREES, GIVEN THE MAINTENANCE HISTORY, CAN EVEN BE MAINTAINED TO GROW TO GIVE STORMWATER SUPPORT. SO I'M GOING TO LIMIT MY COMMENTS TO STORMWATER. THOSE ARE A FEW. ONE MORE AT THE EDGE OF YOUR OF YOUR CURRENT PROPERTY, UP AT THE EDGE, AT THE VERY TIP OF THE TOP WHICH FLOWS DOWN TO VALINOR, WHERE THEY'RE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS, ALONG WITH EDGE BROOK, PART OF THE THE CURRENT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN IS IS A DETENTION POND.
AND I'VE SEEN GOOGLE EARTH AND WHATNOT. IT LOOKS NOWHERE NEAR MAINTAINED. UM, AND GIVEN THE HISTORY, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.
SO I THINK THAT COULD BE A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING. IT'S RIGHT ON TOP. YOU COULD PULL UP THEM IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE MAP, THE ONE WITH THE THE RED AND THE GREEN. UM, I CAN POINT OUT WHERE, WHERE THAT IS.
WELL HOLD ON, CAN WE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS? SURE, SURE. SORRY. ONE AT A TIME, BECAUSE.
I APPRECIATE I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. AND IT'S A LITTLE OFF THE FLY. SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ORGANIZED. SO LET'S START FIRST WITH THIS.
IS WE DID PROVIDE RESPONSES THOUGH I DON'T KNOW.
RIGHT? BUT I RESPOND, I. REPLIED.
OKAY, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WORTH LET'S LET'S RESPOND NOW. OKAY.
SO OKAY. HOLD ON. SO LET'S START WITH THIS IS DP THREE. AM I CORRECT? CORRECT OKAY. SO OKAY SO THE FIRST QUESTION WAS THE UM, UH, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S GOING THERE NOW VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S GOING THERE AFTERWARDS, EVEN WITH, WITH THE, THE TREE REMOVAL, FIRST OF ALL, JUST SHOW US WHICH TREE IS IN DP THREE ARE BEING REMOVED.
THERE'S NINE. THOSE ARE THE ONES WITH THE AXES HERE.
OKAY. SIGNIFICANT. SO UM, AND AND I KNOW WE'VE WE'RE DEBATING YOU KNOW, WELL YOU'RE PLANTING NEW TREES AND, BUT I'LL GO AWAY FROM THE TREE DEBATE FOR A SECOND. TAKE US TO
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THE NUMBERS. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT THE SLIDE ABOUT EXISTING DESIGN POINT AND POST DESIGN POINT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL. RIGHT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OKAY.SO THAT. IS DP THREE RIGHT. SO EACH TIME I MEAN IT'S NOT A BIG AREA. BUT WHEN YOU GET. DOWN THREE.
TO THE BIGGER STORMS IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF STORMWATER. AND NOT JUST I MEAN THESE NUMBERS SPEAK VOLUMES, RIGHT. BUT JUST STRICTLY THE AREA OF RUNOFF BEING CUT IN HALF IS ALSO VERY SIGNIFICANT.
SO AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TREES. THIS IS JUST WATER THAT FLOWS NOW VERSUS WATER THAT'S GOING TO FLOW AFTERWARDS. RIGHT. AND YES, WHETHER.
IT'S TREES DOING THE REMEDIATION OR THE RETENTION POND AND EVERYTHING ELSE. RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT'S THE DISTINCTION. HAS TO.
BE WHY I THINK ACTUALLY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS THIS IS AS A RESULT OF JUST THE STORMWATER COLLECTION, RIGHT? YEAH. I GUESS THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS SAYING. I WAS TRYING IN. SUPPORT OF.
I ALWAYS I THINK WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING.
SO YEAH. SORRY. NEW ACCOUNT COVER. OKAY.
SO OKAY. THERE'S DIFFERENT COVER TYPES. RIGHT. IN TERMS OF LAND USE. DID THIS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE REMOVAL OF THE BIG TREES? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
SO I MEAN WE'RE ONLY REMOVING NINE TREES, BUT THEN WE'RE PLANTING IN THIS AREA 110 TREES.
YOU'RE REMOVING NINE MATURE TREES.
OKAY. SO WE'RE REMOVING NINE. POTENTIALLY MATURE. I MEAN, I'M SEEING REALLY SMALL SIZES HERE. LIKE FOUR, EIGHT, SIX. SOME OF THEM ARE BIGGER. UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO PLANTING TREES THAT ARE THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME AGE AND HEIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE LARGER, MORE MATURE TREES AT PLANTING.
UH, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE VINES AND EVERYTHING BEING REMOVED? THOSE STOP UP A LOT OF WATER TOO, AND THOSE WOULDN'T BE ON YOUR PLAN. SORRY. WHAT SAUCE? UP A LOT OF WATER. THE VINES. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE. I THINK YOU'RE ONLY MARKING REGULATED TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED. THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, VINES. AND WHAT'S THE WORD? INVASIVE SPECIES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED. UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO REMOVE THOSE. THEY PROVIDE SCREENING FOR ME, BUT THEY SOP UP A LOT OF WATER, TOO. SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY. THEIR MITIGATION MEASURES DURING CONSTRUCTION TO BASICALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A POTENTIAL FOR EROSION AND INCREASED RUNOFF. SO WE KEEP MITIGATION MEASURES INTACT UNTIL THERE IS A LEVEL OF GROWTH FOR THE COVER. SO PER D-E-C, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN EROSION AND AND DIFFERENT MEASURES TO MANAGE THAT ON OUR PROPERTY UNTIL THE COVER SEES 80% GROWTH. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, GRUB ALL THE LAND AND LEAVE IT BARE. WE HAVE TO BUY CODE, SEE GROWTH IN THESE AREAS OF VEGETATION TO MAKE SURE, PER YOUR POINT, THAT YOU DON'T SEE ISSUES WITH EROSION AND EXCESS STORMWATER.
SO OKAY, SO I'M GETTING SOME ANSWERS HERE. UM, BUT SOME OF THOSE VINES ARE REALLY, REALLY BIG. AND I THINK IT GOES BEYOND JUST EROSION CONTROL MEASURES. I MEAN, THERE'S VINES THAT ARE LIKE AS BIG AS A TREE. SO WE'RE.
KILLED. BUT THEY ALSO SOP UP WATER. SO.
SO THE MIX THAT WE ARE PUTTING HERE IS A MEADOW MIX. SO IT IS A NAP. IT'S A NATIVE WILD GRASS AND PLANT MIX. SO BASICALLY IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL. IT'S NOT LONG FOR EXAMPLE.
SO YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'VE DONE THE WATER BALANCE WITH THE TREES THAT THE BIG TREES THAT YOU'RE REMOVING AND THE VINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THE BABY TREES.
SO I DON'T HAVE THAT DATABASE UP HERE, BUT AS PART OF OUR TREE REMOVAL, UM, APPLICATION, WE DO HAVE TO DO A BALANCE.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A TREE BALANCE. I'M TALKING ABOUT A WATER BALANCE. IT INCLUDES STORMWATER.
OKAY, I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN ALL THE MATERIALS THAT I'VE REVIEWED. MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WASN'T SHARED.
WITH THE PUBLIC. THE QUESTION PRETTY FULLY.
FOR FOR THE FOR THE TREE BALANCE QUESTION, MAYBE WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT. QUESTION.
THE MISSING STILLING POND, THE MISSING STILLING POND.
SO LET ME JUST GET CLARITY ON THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING.
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JUST BACK BACK UP FOR A SECOND BECAUSE SO THE POND THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WAS, THAT'S THE POND WHERE THE WATER IS COMING DOWN. THERE'S.THERE'S TWO THERE'S TWO STORMWATER FEATURES THAT I UNDERSTAND FROM REVIEWING OLD WESTCHESTER MEADOWS PLANS THAT ARE EXISTING STORMWATER FEATURES ON THE SITE THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS. ABOUT, ONE.
, I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE. TO FIND IT.
IT'S KIND OF. IN THAT AREA THAT.
WE'VE JUST. BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO MAYBE THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. SO THIS WOULD BE A ROCK LINE STILLING POND. I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS THERE AS PART OF THE IT'S ON THE PLANS FOR THE ORIGINAL WESTCHESTER MEADOWS.
IN. I DON'T THINK IT'S NOT THERE THAT WILL NOT BE SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN ON LIKE SOME MAP FOR LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT'S NOT PRESENT NOW.
YEAH. I MEAN THEY WEREN'T RESPONDING.
I MEAN, THEY BOUGHT THE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE 20 YEARS AGO, SO MAYBE IT NEVER WAS PUT IN.
RIGHT? YEAH. MAYBE THAT'S PART OF WHY I HAD PROBLEMS. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS ON THE OTHER END OF THE PROPERTY AT THE TIPPY TOP.
IS THAT ON OUR PROPERTY? ON ON THE GROVE PROPERTY? NO, NO, IT'S NOT ON. IT'S NOT ON THE GROVE. I'VE SEEN IT ON GOOGLE EARTH. IT'S CLEARLY ON THE KNOWLES PROPERTY. IF YOU GO TO THAT OTHER MAP, I CAN. SHOW YOU. RIGHT. I KNOW THERE'S TWO, BUT THE ONE. , THE LOT.
LINE CONFIGURATION IS TRICKY. UM, MAJORITY OF THE MAIN DRIVE IN DRIVEWAY IS THE GROVE. SO.
MAYBE I'M WRONG. MAYBE IT'S NOT. YOU KNOW.
MAYBE IT'S. IT'S DEFINITELY THE GROVE. BUT TO YOUR POINT, UM, IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE. LOOKING WE CAN LOOK AT THE MAP BECAUSE I'M, I STILL AM REALLY SURE THAT IT'S ON THE.
GOALS PROPERTY. THAT'S THE POND. AND IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, THAT'S THE GROVE. 61 GRASSLANDS IS THE GROVE.
SO CAN YOU POINT TO THE POND ON HERE? THEN WE.
VERY CLOSE TO GRASSLANDS ROAD. NO. THIS POND THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS NOT CLOSE TO GRASSLAND.
SO YOU'RE. SAYING SOMETHING RATHER INTERIOR? YES. IN SOUTH? YES.
SO THIS IS SOUTH OF THE FINAL. PROPERTY ON STEVENS LAKE.
IT'S IN BETWEEN. IF YOU WERE TO BLOW UP, BLOW UP THE KNOLLS PROPERTY. UM, OR ACTUALLY IF YOU, IF, IF YOU WENT TO THAT RED AND GREEN MAP THAT YOU HAD BEFORE, UM, YOU COULD EVEN DO GOOGLE EARTH, ACTUALLY BLOW THIS UP AND GO TO THE, THE, THE LOWER PORTION ON THE SCREEN WHERE THE KNOWLES KIND OF COMES TO THE KIND OF COMES TO A V IN THE END, YOU'D HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY BLOW. IT UP.
DOWN BY LAWRENCE DRIVE THERE. NO, ON THE KNOWLES PROPERTY, IT'S 20, 30FT FROM FROM YOUR PAVEMENT. YOU CAN SEE IT ON GOOGLE EARTH. JUST BLOW THAT. OUT. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? IF YOU IF YOU COULD EXPAND.
LIKE YOU PUT THE. AERIAL, CAN YOU TURN THE AERIAL ON THAT ONE AND THEN JUST ZOOM IN TO THE EDGE OF THE, UM, SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THEIR LOOP ROAD FOR THE FOR THE THERE'S A FOR THE KNOLLS. YEAH. SORRY. LET ME TURN OFF THIS OTHER STUFF. YEAH, IT WOULD BE THE SOUTHEAST PORTION. YEAH, YEAH. KIND OF GO. YEP. KEEP BLOWING IT UP.
LIKE ZOOM IN. YEAH. OKAY. UH, SOUTH.
SEE? YOU THINK IT'S IN THAT VICINITY, RIGHT? IF YOU BLOW IT UP MORE. UM.
LIKE ZOOM OUT OR ZOOM. ZOOM, ZOOM IN. ACTUALLY, WE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING IT UP. YOU THINK GENERALLY IN THAT VICINITY. I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE SEEN IT. IF YOU COULD BLOW IT UP A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT MORE, I SEE.
YEAH. IT'S RIGHT OVER THERE. THAT'S RIGHT TO THE RIGHT. THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A AND IT'S ON THE THE PLANS FOR WEST CHESTER MEADOWS. THAT IS A DETENTION POND. AND IN DIFFERENT YOU KNOW WE USE NEAR MATT VERSUS GOOGLE EARTH. IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T.
LOOK IT. DOESN'T ON YOUR MAP. IT'S AND IT WOULD BE CLEARER IF IT WAS MAINTAINED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH.
THAT SHOULD BE BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT POSITION RIGHT THERE IS RIGHT AT THE TIPPY TOP. AND IF THAT'S NOT FUNCTIONING, IT'S GOING TO. GO RIGHT DOWN.
TO THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT THE THAT IS NOT THE STORMWATER BASIN THAT IS CAUSING THE ISSUES ON NO, NO WOOD ROAD. AND AT LAWRENCE. RIGHT. LET'S LET'S BE WE NEED TO BE CLEAR HERE.
AND I'M, I'M BASING THAT BASED ON THE TOWN ENGINEER'S INSPECTION THAT OCCURRED, WHICH I HAVE THOSE MEMOS. YOU PROBABLY DO TOO. IT'S NOT IN FOR THE PROJECT, BUT BUT FOR THE FOR THOSE, UH, TICKETS. THAT'S WHAT'S TAKING THE WATER DOWN. NO. NO ROAD. AND THEN GETTING THEN GETTING INTO THE ONTO THE SLOPE. NOT THE ONE THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT. THE ONE THAT, UM, UH, COLETTE IS SHOWING RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BUT NONETHELESS, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
YEAH, SURE. YEAH, I. REALLY I REALLY THINK SO. THIS THAT I WOULD DISAGREE BECAUSE THAT DETENTION POND WAS ON THE ORIGINAL PLANS FOR WESTCHESTER MEADOWS. IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDED FOR THIS PROJECT. THAT WAS DONE WITH THE WALL DOWN ON. NO, NO, NO. YEAH. THAT'S NOT
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WHAT I'M SAYING. I THERE ARE VERY, VERY WELL MAY BE A RETENTION POND THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THE ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT THE WHOLE ISSUE, BUT IT MIGHT BE. A DECENT PIECE OF IT. I MEAN.
WE'LL SEE. I DEFER TO THE TOWN'S EXPERTS ON THAT. I THINK.
IT'S IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS WHATEVER FEATURES THERE THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINED. AND THEN IF IT'S IF THAT'S THE, IF THEY ARE AND IT'S STILL A PROBLEM, IT'LL PROVE ITSELF OUT.. RIGHT. YEAH.
SO YEAH. AND JUST DO THE MAINTENANCE QUESTION. UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO COME UP WITH A OR TO DEVELOP A MAINTENANCE PLAN AS PART OF THE STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN. AND THAT STORMWATER MAINTENANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, PERMIT OR PLAN WILL LIVE WITH THE TOWN, AND THE TOWN WILL ISSUE VIOLATION IF IT IS NOT MAINTAINED. YEAH. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN PEOPLE GETTING VIOLATIONS. I'D WANT PEOPLE TO NOT GET VIOLATIONS AND PERFORM IT. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION.
NO. YEAH. WE YOU KNOW. I APPRECIATE IT.
AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY IS REQUIRED BY THIS PLAN AND BY THE TOWN TO MAINTAIN THE BASIS. WE COULD REQUIRE AN ANNUAL CERTIFICATION THAT THAT'S HAPPENING.
YEAH. WHAT ABOUT PUTTING SOME MONEY IN ESCROW IN CASE IT'S NOT DONE? I MEAN, THE COUNTY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE BRONX RIVER AND THEY NEVER FOLLOWED UP ON IT.
SO THEY'RE NOT THE COUNTY? NO, BUT I'M JUST. NO, I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE EXPERIENCES JUST WITH THE, UH, FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORTS IN FULTON PARK. YOU KNOW, THEY LAST YEAR, COUNTY LEGISLATORS SHOWED UP SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.
THEY HAVEN'T MAINTAINED IT. SO I'M SAYING IF WE PUT IF IF AS A CONDITION OF THIS, THERE'S MONEY THAT'S IN ESCROW AND AND THEY DON'T COMPLY, IF THEY DO COMPLY, THEN YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING. TO.
THERE'S LOST MONEY RIGHT. THEN THEN THE NONPROFIT HAS LOST MONEY. IF YOU DON'T COMPLY YOU LOSE MONEY. IF YOU DO COMPLY, YOU DON'T LOSE MONEY.
DON'T COMPLY IF WE TAKE THEM TO COURT.
RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ALREADY RIGHT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THIS WAY. WELL, LET THEM FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING. TO MANAGE IT.
IF RIGHT AWAY. I GUESS THE FIRST THING IS LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THAT. WELL.
ALL I'M SORRY TO SAY IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS JUST LIKE WE DID ON OTHER PROJECTS, I WANT TO SAY IF WE COULD WIN THE CONFIDENCE AND THE TRUST OF RESIDENTS WHO OBJECT TO THIS.
SO IF WE COULD TAKE IF WE COULD TAKE SOME ACTION STEPS THAT COULD MAKE THEM FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY ARE GOING TO DO THIS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY. THEN THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT, UM, THAT THERE'LL BE MORE SUPPORT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROJECT. I'M JUST.
GONNA PLAN AND FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE MAINTENANCE.
OKAY. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE AGENCY TO CALL THEM ON IT. IF THEY DON'T.
FORCE IT. RIGHT. NO. THAT WAS WAS THAT THE LAST ONE? LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS KEEPING IT TO STORMWATER. WAS SNOW. WHEN THE PLOWS COME AND IT GOES OVER THE WALL AND IT GOES ON THE THE TREES, OR ARE THEY GOING TO SURVIVE WITH ALL THAT SNOW, SALT. AND STUFF? YEAH. THAT, THAT. BECAUSE THEN IT'S.
GOING TO. WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER THIS WEEK. SO.
SNOW. WELL UM, DO YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN WHERE YOU COULD SHOW THE SNOW, UM, STORAGE OR. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S. JUST WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY IT AS A POINT OF ORDER. WE ARE PRETTY FAR BEHIND IN SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW, AND THE BOARD DOES HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE'RE HEARING THE 7:00, UM, TOPIC, THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM DPW TO HOLD OFF, NOT AT AN INTERIM TOWN ENGINEER HAS BEEN APPOINTED TONIGHT. YOU COULD ANSWER THAT. SORRY. I WANT TO PUT EVERYTHING INTO PERSPECTIVE.
NOT TO BE BACK AT TWO IN THE MORNING. SO.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RETAINING WALL HERE. WE WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT BE PUSHING SNOW OVER THIS WALL. IT IS. THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM. SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE PLAN. UM, THE PLAN FOR THE ROADWAYS IS YOU. OBVIOUSLY, LIKE YOU SAID. PUSH IT TO THE LANDSCAPED AREAS, WHICH IS PRETTY STANDARD PRACTICE. UM, SO ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S NOT THIS WALL, IT WILL BE PUSHED, YOU KNOW, INTO THE PROPERTY OR INTO, YOU KNOW, IF IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PLACED IN, IN PARKING SPACES THAT ARE UNDERUTILIZED AS WELL. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS SOME OF IT, WE'RE, UM, SOME OF IT WILL GO OVER THE WALL.
NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. OVER THE WALL. HOW DO.
YOU KNOW. YOU CANNOT GO OVER THE WALL? YOU JUST KNOW. THAT HE'S TALKING.
RIGHT? IT'S IT'S IT'S GOING TO GO OVER THE WALL, BUT IT'S OKAY. YOU DO YOU MEAN YOU.
HAVE A BUFFER HERE OF THREE? PUSH TO THE RIGHT. YEAH, IT'S
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IT'S. BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS.ANGLED., RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU CAN JUST DIRECT THE PLOWS TO GO THIS WAY. RIGHT. AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
THAT'S RIGHT. I AM RESPECTFUL THE FACT YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA. SO. YEAH. LISTEN.
I'M I'M APPRECIATIVE. UM, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF GETTING SOME LEVEL OF ANSWERS. IT'S KIND OF SAD THAT WE HAVE TO COME HERE IN FRONT OF ALL YOUR FOLKS TO HANDLE COMMUNICATION. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF CLARITY THAT WE'VE GAINED. MAYBE YOU'VE GAINED. YOU GUYS HAVE GAINED SOME CLARITY ON QUESTIONS THAT WE STILL NEED TO ANSWER.
SO THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THAT'S NOT A FAIR COMMENT. AND LOOK, I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, BUT WE'VE WE'VE SPENT 16 MONTHS BEFORE YOUR BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD, AND EVERY TIME THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO RESPOND. AND WE HAVE THESE THESE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM TO YOU IN PUBLIC WAY. BUT TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE IGNORING IT. I THINK WE CAN. WE'VE WE'VE RESPONDED, WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK. SO CAN WE JUST LEAVE? IF THERE WAS A RESPONSE, MAYBE THERE WAS A RESPONSE. IT JUST DIDN'T LAND ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE WHERE WE RECEIVED IT.
SO THAT COULD BE. BUT THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED WERE ALL IN A LETTER. MAYBE THEY WERE ANSWERED AND JUST DIDN'T COME FOR US SO. THAT WE WE CAN. DO SOMETHING.
ABOUT THAT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE A COMMUNICATION ISSUE. AND THIS ACTUALLY IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE SPOKEN. SO THAT'S IT. THAT'S A GOOD THING. THAT'S A GOOD THING. A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. OKAY. WELL YOU'RE HERE AND WE DID.
AND OKAY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I HAVE PICTURES SHOWING WATER COMING DOWN FROM THE. FEDERAL PROPERTY.
FENCE IS GETTING KNOCKED DOWN A RETAINING WALL THAT WAS BUILT THAT HAD WATER, LAND ONTO THE ROAD AND CAUSED THE ROAD TO COLLAPSE THIS SUMMER, REQUIRING THE STREET TO GET CLOSED FOR 4 OR 5 DAYS FOR REPAIRS. SO I DISAGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE. GARRETT. HOW CAN.
UM. THE NEIGHBOR SHARE ANY PHOTOS SHE HAS OF THAT? I DON'T. SEE HOW IT WOULD.
DO YOU EMAIL THEM TO ME. THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY, YEAH, BUT SOME OF THEM. WELL, LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION. SURE. AGAIN. WHAT WHAT WHAT THOSE PICTURES SHOW IS THE WATER COMING OFF OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY IS GOING DOWN THE THE HILLSIDE OR THE TOP OF THE HILLSIDE AND THEN SPILLING OVER ONTO OUR PROPERTY. AND YES, THERE WERE SOME THERE WAS A MUDSLIDE THERE. AND THAT'S WHY THE TOWN ISSUED A VIOLATION TO US, TO THE GROVE, TO TO BOCES, TO W, TO WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BECAUSE THE WATER IS COMING FROM SOME. CUMULATIVE EFFECTS.
YES. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU JUST GOING LOOKING AT THE, AT THE, AT THE, UM, THE TOPOGRAPHY MAP AND THE COLORING, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHAT'S COMING OFF OF THAT SLOPE IS NOT WHAT'S CAUSING THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOODING THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING.
OKAY. THE THE UM, GARRETT'S NOW GIVING HIS EMAIL ADDRESS. SO WHEN YOU GET THOSE PICTURES, IF YOU CAN SHOW IF YOU CAN RESPOND ACCORDINGLY, UM, JUST AS YOU SAID, SO THAT SHE'S MADE AWARE BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO HEAR THAT NOW.
OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO FLOOD ANYBODY OUT. NO, I UNDERSTAND.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE THINGS. ALONG AND SOLUTION.
TO BOTH PARTS. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR THE FRUSTRATION AND FRUSTRATIONS AND WE TRY TO ADDRESS THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO HEAR THEM. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. BUT ALL RIGHT, ANOTHER PROJECT.
ANOTHER PROJECT ON THE BLOCK. THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SO, WHAT ARE WE DOING? THANK YOU.
PRINT THOSE OUT. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO LEAVE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I HAD GOTTEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH I SENT TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND COMMISSIONER PLANNING AND THE BOARD. UM, WHEN I WAS ON VACATION. UM, THERE'S TWO GROUP HOMES THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE TOWN, AND I THINK THE TOWN BOARD HAS TO REVIEW IT. AND WE HAVE, I THINK, 40 DAYS TO DECIDE WHAT ACTION WE'RE GOING TO TAKE. ONE IS ON GREENWOOD LANE AND ONE IS ON, UM, FOR US, YOU KNOW, LANE, I SENT NOTICES, YOU KNOW, I SENT THE THE LETTERS TO THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ON THOSE STREETS. UM, YOU
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KNOW, USUALLY WITH THE STATE, IF A COMMUNITY OBJECTS TO, UM, THE GROUP HOMES, THE STATE PRACTICALLY ALWAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVES IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. BUT I AND WE HAVE WE'VE HAD WE HAVE A NUMBER OF GROUP HOMES IN THE TOWN, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH THEM OVER, OVER THE YEARS.YES. WE HAVE A MAP OF ALL THE GROUP.
HOMES IN THE TOWN. WHAT WE'LL DO IS MAP THESE TWO PROPOSALS.
SO YOU SEE WHERE THEY ARE IN PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING AGENCY GROUP HOMES. AND WE'LL CIRCULATE THE INFORMATION I NEED. THE FROST LANE ONE. SO THAT ONE, I.
DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
FOR NEXT. YES. AND WE'LL PUT IT ON FOR WORK SESSION AGENDA. I JUST DON'T WANT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE NOTICED AND WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BRING IT UP AT A, YOU KNOW, A BOARD MEETING, THE FROST LANE ONE IS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY CLOSE WITHIN LIKE TWO A FEW BLOCKS FROM ANOTHER GROUP HOME FOR. UH, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WILL BE.
WE'LL SEE WITH THE MAPPING. THAT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MAP THAT ONE, BUT, UH, OKAY, ONCE I GET IT, I'LL DO THAT.
SO SHALL WE? OKAY, THEN I MAKE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING. THE 7:00 ITEM. NORTH WASHINGTON SIDEWALK DISCUSSION WILL BE HELD OVER. SINCE I BELIEVE THERE WAS. THE INTERIM TOWN ENGINEER WAS APPOINTED TODAY.
SO HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE FACTS AT ISSUE AND TO, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE ON THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE AGREEING TO HOLD.
THAT. OKAY. MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.