RECORDING IN PROGRESS. GOOD EVENING. ALL. UM. HAPPY? 
          [   			TOWN OF GREENBURGH 			ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 			AGENDA 			THURSDAY, September 17, 2026 – 7:00 P.M. 			                  ]
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ROLL. OKAY, WE'RE GOING. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN OUR ROLL CALL. MADAM CHAIR. EVE. BUNTING. SMITH. PRESENT IS PRESENT. DIANE. EBERLY. PRESENT IS PRESENT. CHRISTY. CONNECT IS ABSENT. LEWIS CRITCHLOW IS ABSENT. WILLIAM BLAND.. PRESENT IS PRESENT. SHAUNA DICKINSON IS ABSENT. PETER BLAIR HERE IS PRESENT. HOWARD JACOBY WOODS IS PRESENT. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR ROLL CALL, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND WHERE IT IS? NICE PIECE OF PAPER. GO AND BE HERE. SO THE MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER NOW. WE HAVE NINE CASES SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT'S MINUTE. MINUTES. MEETING. HOWEVER. OKAY. CASE 2536. AS WELL AS CASE. 2620 ARE NOT BEING HEARD. THEY'RE BEING ADJOURNED TO. 25. 20. 26. 2036 IS WILL BE AT NOVEMBER. THE 19TH MEETING. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE OTHER CASE. HOWEVER, LOOKING FORWARD, THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS OCTOBER 15TH. SO MARK YOUR CALENDAR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIMIT THE TIMES THIS EVENING BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS THAT, UH, ARE SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED AND, UH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. I THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO HANDLE IT. AND IF IT GETS TOO LONG, WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE ON. AS IN THE PAST, IN ORDER TO SAVE TIME, WE WAIVE A READING OF THE PROPERTY, LOCATION AND THE RELIEF SOUGHT FOR EACH CASE. THE REPORTER WILL INSERT THIS INFORMATION ON THE RECORD. THIS INFORMATION ALSO APPEARS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S NIGHT, BUT TONIGHT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CASE IS TONIGHT. WHEN WE FINISH WITH HAVING ALL THE. CASES HEARD. 
          THE THE BOARD WILL MEET TO DISCUSS THE CASE IN THIS, AND I ASSUME WE WILL DISCUSS IT IN THIS IN THIS ROOM. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO LISTEN TO OUR DELIBERATIONS. BUT THE PUBLIC WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK OR PARTICIPATE AT THAT TIME. 
          AFTER OUR DELIBERATIONS ON ALL OF THE CASES, WE ANNOUNCE THE BOARD'S DECISION. FOR THE FORMAL RECORD AND TO BE BROADCAST TO THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. AND I MEAN, THAT'S SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. AND I KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE HEARING. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, YOU CERTAINLY CAN COME UP. BUT IF WE DON'T GET IT ON THIS MONTH, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HERE AND ALSO IF THIS CASE GOES TO PERHAPS ANOTHER A COURT, WE NEED TO HAVE THE RECORD CLEAN. SO PLEASE TRY TO TO STAY IN. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, GO OUTSIDE, PLEASE. EVERYONE WHO COMES UP TO THE MICROPHONE, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS OR YOUR PROFESSIONAL AFFILIATION. WE'VE HEARD TESTIMONY ON, I BELIEVE, ONE OF THESE CASES TONIGHT AND TWO OF THEM ACTUALLY, UH, AND ALL PRIOR TESTIMONY IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD. AND PLEASE, SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED. SO THE FIRST CASE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TONIGHT IS CASE 2613 GOLD NORTH. I CAN'T SAY THE LAST WORD. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU. 
          I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. NO. THAT'S OKAY. UH, MY NAME IS GOOD. TUCHMAN. ALL OKAY? I'M THE OWNER OF 14 HEARTHSTONE CIRCLE, AND HENRY IS WITH THE, UH, POOL COMPANY. HEY, UH, HENRY GONZALEZ, UH, 
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COOL POOL. I'M THE PERMANENT ADMINISTRATOR. PROJECT MANAGER? UM, WE THIS IS OUR SECOND TIME BACK HERE. UH, AND, UM, THIS PROPERTY IS ABOUT 30,000FT . IT'S LOCATED ON HEARTHSTONE CIRCLE. UH, IT'S AT THE END OF A ROAD, LIKE A CUL DE SAC. UH, SHE HAS AN EXISTING, UH, LINER POOL, WHICH, UH, SHE'S APPLYING TO, UH, CONVERT TO A POOL, WHICH IS MADE, UH, SO FROM A ONE FORM TO ANOTHER, UM, SHE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, REPLACE THE PATIO AROUND HER POOL AND, UH, A MONTH AGO, WE WERE HERE, AND WE WERE ASKING FOR ABOUT, UM, 28.83 3.8% OVER, UH, THE ALLOWED THE ACCEPTED. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE SINCE SUBMITTED A NEW DRAWING AND THIS REDUCES, UH, THE PATIO, UH, TO NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR 26.4% OR 0.43% OVER THE, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS 1.43% OVER THE, UH, ACCEPTED ALLOWED. 
          YEAH. SO, SO LAST TIME THERE WAS A PERGOLA ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND UNDERNEATH WAS KIND OF, UM, WAS CLOSED AS WELL. SO WE WERE ASKED TO REMOVE THAT. AND YEAH, SO WE, WE, WE'VE DONE THE NECESSARY CHANGES THAT WAS DISCUSSED. 
          OKAY. UH, THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE WAS CALCULATED BY AN ENGINEER. UH, IT WAS CALCULATED FOR A 25 YEAR STORM. UH, SINCE THE PATIO HAS BEEN REDUCED, THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED. SO IT'S IT'S CAPACITY IS FOR THE WHAT WAS PROPOSED ONE MONTH AGO. AND. THE THERE IS AN AQUEDUCT WHICH IS LOCATED, UH, DOWNHILL FROM THAT. UH, THE PROPOSED JOB SITE, WHICH IS ALSO WORTH NOTING. 
          , IS THAT WHERE THE SWING IS. SWING. 
          SWING. I THOUGHT YOU HAD A SWING ON THE OTHER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS? SO YOU WENT FROM A PERGOLA THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD ANY GROUND COVERAGE TO. NO PERGOLA. 
          IS THAT. OKAY? AND ACTUALLY. UH, AND ACTUALLY IT DID IT DID HAVE, UM, SOMETHING UNDERNEATH. SO WE REMOVED EVERYTHING COMPLETELY. THE ONLY CHANGE REALLY FROM A POOL PERSPECTIVE, LIKE IT'S THE SAME LIKE A SIZE AND EVERYTHING. IT'S JUST IT'S HAD CURVES. AND THIS IS JUST LIKE RED RECTANGULAR. AND THERE'S A 1.4 I THINK VARIANCE. UM, THAT'S IT REALLY. 
          I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'M IN FRAME. IT'S VERY COLD. SORRY. 
          OH, NO. DID YOU GUYS GET COPIES OF THE. 
          DID YOU GUYS GET COPIES OF THE RENDERING AND A LAYOUT OF THE PATIO? THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THAT. YEAH. 
          SO YOU DEFINITELY MADE CHANGE. YEAH. 
          I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY. 
          THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE BOARD FROM LAST MONTH. 
          THANK YOU. WE'RE HOPING THAT EACH AND EVERY. 9:00. 
          THAT'S TRUE. WE DID. OKAY. SO THE NEXT THE NEXT CASE IS 2617. 
          ASK ABOUT. RIVER ROAD. 
          CAN. ORLEANS. 
          AND WE HAVE ANOTHER POOL. NO, THAT'S NOT A POOL. 
          WELL YEAH. BOWLING. BOWLING BOWLING BOWLING BOWLING. 
          TODD. YEAH, WE WENT OVER THE BOWLING ALLEY. 
          I'M SORRY. NEXT. WE'RE NEXT. WE GOT STUCK IN HERE. 
          OKAY. MADAM CHAIR. 
          YES. UH, BEFORE YOU GO ON TO THE NEXT CASE, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ASKED IF ANYONE IS EITHER WAITING IN THE WAITING ROOM OR IN THE AUDIENCE TO COMMENT ON THE PREVIOUS CASE. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTED TO 
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COMMENT ON THE PREVIOUS CASE? WE ASKED THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS SOMETIMES COME IN IF THEY WANT TO. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE GO BACK TO CASE. 2618616 16, 26. 
          26, 16. 2616. 
          YES, 2616. BOWLING. BOWLING, BOWLING. 
          I'M SORRY. DOES THAT LOOK LIKE 18? UH, YEAH, BUT I'M READING IT ALL. 
          I KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHO'S HERE? I AM. OKAY. 
          I'M ON ZOOM. OKAY, WELCOME. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN PLEASE PROCEED. 
          ON 3374 GRAND. LARAMIE. GEORGE. CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. UM, WE WERE THERE LAST MONTH. UM, FOR, UM, FOR THE ZONING BOARD MEETING, AND WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE SIGNS, AS SUGGESTED. UM, YOU GUYS ALL HAVE COPIES OF THE DRAWINGS? I BELIEVE. WE HAVE. 
          THEM. OKAY. UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO SHOW EVERYBODY THAT ALL OF THE LETTERS ARE NOT THE SAME SIZE. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE OTHER RENDERING, IT COULD BE THE OTHER SHEET THAT SHOWS JUST THE SIGN ITSELF. YOU'LL SEE THE MEASUREMENTS FOR ALL THE LETTERS KIND OF GOING INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE SIGN. SO WHEREAS IT SHOWS THAT THE LETTERS ARE THREE FEET ON THE OUTSIDE, THEY'RE NOT ON THE INSIDE. SO IT'S LITERALLY THE OUTER ONES ARE THREE FEET. AND THEN THEY GET SMALLER AS THEY GO IN. THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER. YEP. I SEE THAT. THERE WE GO. THAT'S THE ONE. FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL LETTER, RIGHT? AS YOU. CAN SEE. 
          SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THE X THAT'S STILL AT THREE FEET. 
          CORRECT. IT'S THE X. AND THOSE OUTER LETTERS LIKE THE L AND THE E. OH WELL WHEN WE WERE THERE LAST MONTH THEY WERE WE HAD THEM AT 3.5FT. SO WE REDUCED IT BY SIX INCHES ON THE OUTER LETTERS. AND WE WANTED TO ALSO SHOW EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY POINT THAT OUT LAST MONTH. BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS THIS MONTH THAT AS YOU MOVE IN, THOSE LETTERS DO REDUCE IN SIZE, LIKE THE S IS MUCH SMALLER. YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO AND A HALF, TWO FEET, SIX INCHES, SO IT'S ACTUALLY SIX INCHES SMALLER THAN THE E, THE L AND THE X. 
          ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? I'M JUST WONDERING WHY I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT YOU HAVE SLOPING LETTERS. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU GAVE US THOSE MEASUREMENTS. I WISH THAT THE SMALLEST LETTERS WERE AT CODE. 
          THEY'RE STILL SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER THAN CODE, SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU COULD HAVE ACHIEVED THE SAME EFFECT AND HAD IT GO FROM 2 TO 2.6 THEN. RIGHT NOW, WHERE IT'S GOING FROM 2.6 TO 3, IS THERE SOME SOMETHING THAT I'M MISSING? UH, IN YOUR CALCULATION, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ARGUMENT AS TO WHY YOU COULDN'T HAVE GONE TO THAT SIZE. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN, GONE TO WHAT SIZE? THE ENTIRE SIGN BEING. 
          NO. NO, YOU'VE MADE A GOOD ARGUMENT THAT EVERY LETTER IS NOT THE SAME. AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR LOGO. BUT THE EXISTING SIGN DOESN'T NEED A VARIANCE. I'VE BEEN TO THE SITE. I FIND IT VERY READABLE, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE YOUR LOGO, WHICH INVOLVES SMALLER TO BIGGER LETTERS, AND YOU SAY, OKAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO SMALLER THAN THE LETTERS THAT ARE NOW THERE, IT WOULD HAVE GONE FROM 2 TO 2 AND A HALF, NOT FROM 2.6 TO TO THREE. 
          AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU WENT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE AND WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE. WELL, I MEAN, WHEN WE WERE THERE LAST MONTH, LIKE I SAID, WE WERE ASKING FOR 3.5FT ON 
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THOSE OUTER LETTERS, AND WE REALLY DIDN'T PRESENT TO YOU GUYS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE MEASUREMENTS. AND IT ALSO JUST THE SIZE OF THE FACADE ACTUALLY MAKES IT HARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE ONE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE ONE SIGN. AND WE'RE SETBACK ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL. SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO AND I KNOW YOU GUYS SAY EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S A BOWLING ALLEY. 
          IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A MILLION YEARS. BUT I MEAN, THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S YEAH I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ASKED IF WE WOULD PRESENT A SECOND OPTION AND WE DID REDUCE IT, YOU KNOW, FROM 3.5FT DOWN TO THREE FEET. 
          OKAY. SO ALONG THOSE LINES, THOUGH, I MEAN, I ALSO DROVE BY TONIGHT AND IT WAS RAINING AND IT WAS DARK OUT AND IT WAS READABLE FROM THE STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET BECAUSE I WAS HEADING HERE TOWARDS THE TOWN HALL. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VALID SUGGESTION THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE STARTING OFF AT SMALLER LETTERS AND GOING TO LARGER LETTERS, BUT WHY DIDN'T YOU START AT WHAT IS WITHIN CODE AND THEN GO UP VERSUS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A READABILITY ISSUE, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SIGN IS IN COMPLIANCE. NOW THE LETTERS AND IT IS READABLE. AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING FROM UPPER TO UPPER AND LOWER CASE. IT'S ALL CAPS. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NEED. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO START AT 2.5FT. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THE CLIENT IS LOOKING FOR. THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR BRANDING, UM, FROM THE ROAD. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY. IT'S A UNIQUE, YOU KNOW, THE UNIQUENESS OF WHERE THE BUILDING SITS. UM, THERE IS NO YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE PRESENTED THIS LAST TIME AS WELL. WE WILL HAVE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ROAD SIGN, YOU KNOW, BRANDING ON, ON THE ROAD AT ALL. THAT ONE'S THAT THAT SIGN ON THE BUILDING IS THE ONLY SIGNAGE THAT THIS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE. 
          SO WHAT'S YOUR CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT? YOU'RE THE SIGN DESIGNER. YOU'RE THE. 
          FEE SIMPLE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. WHAT WOULD YOUR ROLE. 
          UM, I AM ACTUALLY THE PERMIT EXPEDITOR. 
          I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT. THAT? PERMIT? WE ARE. PERMIT? WE'RE PERMIT EXPEDITED. WE WE DO. WE PULL PERMITS. WE ALSO, UM, DO VARIANCES. MSPS. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD. IT'S A LOT OF LETTERS AND LOOKING. AS AS IT SETS THE LOAN. THE BOLERO ONE THAT WAS HERE. IT'S MUCH EASIER TO TO SEE IT. AT LEAST. 
          AND ESSENTIALLY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING TWO SIGNS AND A LOGO AND REPLACING IT WITH ONLY ONE CHANNEL LETTER SET. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GETTING RID OF THE WORD BOWL AT THE FAR LEFT? YEAH, YEAH, WE HAD SAID WE HAD MENTIONED THAT LAST MONTH. 
          WE'RE GETTING RID OF IT. THE ONLY SIGN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THAT BUILDING IS THAT LUCKY STRIKE SIGN THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE ON. THAT'S THE ONLY SIGNAGE. 
          OKAY. AND ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THE PROPOSED THERE ARE LIKE UPSIDE DOWN BEES OR THE WAY. THAT KIDS AND GRAMMAR SCHOOL MAKE SEAGULLS. WHAT IS THAT? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          WAIT, WHAT. ARE YOU ON THE FRONT SIDE ON THAT? I'M LOOKING. 
          AT IT. I'M SEEING. PICTURE VERSUS PROPOSED AND ACTUALLY BOTH OF THEM AT THE FAR RIGHT OF THE BUILDING, THEY HAVE UPSIDE DOWN VS WHAT? WHAT DOES THAT. 
          MEAN? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ON THAT'S BEEN ON THE BUILDING NOW. 
          THAT'S THAT'S BOLEROS LOGO. IT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE ANTLERS. IT'S IT'S THEIR PART OF THEIR LOGO. RIGHT. I WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. NO. 
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OH, OH THE ARROWS ON THE TOP. THE BOTTOM. 
          IT'S A PART OF THE FACADE. YEAH. THAT'S JUST I MEAN, THAT'S ALREADY THERE. IT'S A PART OF THE FACADE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. JUST. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT ARROWS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE BALL IS ROLLING KIND OF THING. THAT'S. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. THAT'S HOW I TAKE. 
          IT. I JUST AS I LOOK AT IT, I SEE THE, THE LETTERS SO CLOSE TOGETHER. THAT IF THEY WERE PERHAPS A LITTLE SMALLER, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO READ. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR BRAND. I MEAN, THIS IS THEIR BRANDING. THIS IS LUCKY STRIKES BRANDING. THAT'S WHAT THEIR LOGO LOOKS LIKE. THAT'S EVERY. 
          EVERY TIME. THEY. 
          YEAH, EVERY EVERY PLACE THAT THEY GO. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YES, MA'AM. SO THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. HOW DID. THE ONE THAT WE DIDN'T GET THIS INITIALLY. I'M SORRY YOU DIDN'T GET ONE INITIALLY. I'M CONFUSED. WELL, YOU SAID THAT, UH, THIS IS THE. THIS IS THE WAY THAT THEY THEY USE IT. BUT WHAT YOU HAD OPPOSED BEFORE, I THOUGHT THE LETTERS WERE, YOU KNOW, THE SIGN WAS DIFFERENT. NO, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME SIGN. WE JUST REDUCED THE SIZE AT THIS TIME. THIS IS THE EXACT SAME SIGN THAT WE PRESENTED LAST MONTH. BUT THE SIGN LAST MONTH. THE L AND THE E AND THE X WERE 3.5FT. WE REDUCED THEM. 
          WE REDUCED. WE REDUCED THOSE THREE LETTERS DOWN TO THREE FEET. ALL THE OTHER LETTERS WERE ALWAYS SMALLER. WE JUST DIDN'T REPRESENT THAT CORRECTLY ON THE DRAWINGS AS WE SHOULD HAVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. NO. I WILL SAY THOUGH, IS THAT I'M ON YOUR WEBSITE AND THERE ARE THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR THE LOGO, WHICH IS JUST IN PLAIN RED WITHOUT THE WHITE LIGHT LONG OUTLINE, AND IT PROBABLY WOULD ENHANCE READABILITY FROM A DISTANCE. UM. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE REASONING WHY THEY HAVE THAT ONE. I MEAN, MAYBE THEY ARE. MAYBE THAT OTHER ONE IS GETTING PHASED OUT. 
          ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ON THIS? OKAY. NO. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.. 
          AND NOW WE HAVE 26171417, 14, 14. SOME ROAD ARDSLEY. AND I WENT BACK AT A POOL. POOL AND DRIVEWAY. 
          I KNOW, BUT IT'S. GOT IT UP. 
          UM. LET'S MAKE A QUICK PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT'S A SIMPLE REQUEST. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, THE HOUSE, THE THE THE VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN WOULD TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE TWO VARIANCES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ARE. ONE 
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IS THE LOCATION OF THE POOL. WE CANNOT IN AS PER THE REGULATIONS OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE CANNOT HAVE A POOL ON THE SIDE YARD. THAT'S FOR EVERY ZONING. PRETTY MUCH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY AND STEEPNESS, UH, OF THIS PARTICULAR LOT, WE PLACED THE BUILDING. NOT ONLY THE POOL WAS THERE, BUT THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THE POOL AND IN ORDER TO ATTAIN THE LEVELS AND MINIMIZE THE EXCAVATION. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING APPROVED FOR A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT IN THE PLANNING BOARD, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY I ALREADY PRESENTED. EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE, UH, READY TO VOTE, BUT OF COURSE THEY THEY SENT US FORWARD, I THINK, WITH A NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION. I DON'T REMEMBER. IT WAS NEUTRAL. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. I GAVE US A NEUTRAL. UM, ANYWAY, HERE WE ARE. THEY'RE WAITING FOR YOUR DECISIONS. UM, UH, ALLOW FOR ALLOWING US TWO THINGS. THE LOCATION, LEAVING THE POOL WHERE IT IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. AND TWO, UM, GREENBERG IS ALSO PECULIAR IN CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO SATISFY IN ANY OTHER TOWN. 
          BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PAVEMENT IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE APPROACH, UM, IS SO STEEP THAT THE GARAGE ENDS. THE ROAD ENDS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THE PAVEMENT, IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THE STORMWATER. UH, SURFACES. AND OF COURSE, THE ACCESS TO OR INTO THE GARAGE. SINCE THERE IS THREE DOORS, UH, IT'S SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 30FT. WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED 30 FOOT. UH, COVERAGE AS THE MAXIMUM WIDTH OF OF OF PAVEMENT. UH, WE CAN WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, WHICH I COULD DO IF YOU DENY THE 30 FOOT REQUEST. UM, I SIMPLY BUILD A GREEN AREA, AND I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THEY WOULD ACCEPT THAT, BUT IT'S A IT WOULD BE LIKE A CIRCLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AREA THAT LOGICALLY WILL FEED THE GARAGE. 
          UH, JUST TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE MEET AND WE INTERRUPT THE 30 FOOT MAXIMUM DISTANCE WE CAN DO THAT, AND WE WILL PROBABLY COME UP WITH A GEOMETRY THAT WOULD WORK FOR US. UM, BUT IT'S A IT'S A DISINGENUOUS, UH, APPROACH SIMPLY TO BEAT THE REGULATION. SO WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD PUT OURSELVES ON YOUR MERCY AND LET YOU DECIDE WHETHER THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. 
          AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT. AND OF COURSE, THE POOL LOCATION. SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. WE HAVE THESE PICTURES IN THE PACKAGE. 
          ARE THESE RENDERINGS OR WHAT'S OUT THERE. IF I WENT. 
          UP TO OH NO THAT'S A RENDERING. THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S NOTHING BUILT. THERE'S NOTHING THERE. OKAY. 
          YEAH. I'M AMAZED TO WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THE, UH, I'M OLD SCHOOL THAT THAT IS FOREIGN TO ME. THE WAY THEY. 
          AND TOMORROW. IS THE DRIVEWAY. OH. I'M SORRY, INSOFAR AS THE DRIVEWAY SOMEWHERE IT SAYS THAT YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY. NO, NO, IT'S THE LENGTH. NO. WITH THE THE MAYBE THE BUILDING. THE APARTMENT CAN EXPLAIN IT. 
          IT'S THE WIDTH. AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY QUESTION. 
          NO, NO, IT'S THE LENGTH. IT'S THE LENGTH FROM SIDE THE THE LONGEST DIMENSION THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO PAVE. SO THE WIDTH IS WHATEVER 20, 30FT. BUT IT IS, IT IS THE FRONTAGE THAT THEY LIMIT TO 30FT. IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A WISH. WAY BACK IN THE 80S TO MINIMIZE, UH, PAVEMENT, TO MINIMIZE IMPERMEABLE SURFACES LIKE YOU CANNOT. YOU'RE THE ONLY TOWN WHERE WE CAN'T PAVE ON THE SIDE YARD. IT'S ILLEGAL. ASIDE FROM YOUR GREENERY THEORY, WHICH I HAVE NO IDEA. MAY OR MAY NOT FLY TO IN ORDER TO GET FROM THE STREET TO THE HOUSE. 
          NO, NO, NO, THAT DOESN'T COUNT. IT DOESN'T COUNT FROM THE STREET. IT DOESN'T COUNT FROM THE STREET. 
          IT'S JUST RUN FROM. WELL, IT'S IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE. IF I WAS TO SAY IT QUICKLY, IT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE. OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER PAVEMENT WE NEED TO GET TO THE HOUSE AND GO THROUGH THE FRONT YARD. BUT IT'S THAT MAGICAL SPACE WHICH IS HARD TO DEFINE SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES WE SIT DOWN AND WE SAY, WELL, WHICH ONE. 
          IS? IF YOU DIDN'T GET THE VARIANCE, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO DO? I ELIMINATE I INTERRUPT THE PAVEMENT SOMEHOW TO SATISFY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE POLE, THE SUBMISSION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ESCALADES ASSOCIATES. THAT'S YOU? YES. 
          IT SAYS THE LOCATION OF THE POOL CANNOT BE BUILT AT THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, AS REQUIRED BY CODE. WHY IS THAT? WELL, LET ME ALSO MENTION TO THE BOARD THAT THIS IS A LOT THAT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR TWO PROPERTIES. TWO. BUT WE DECIDED 
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AGAINST IT. SO THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE LEAVING HALF OF THE ACREAGE EMPTY, UNTOUCHED. UM, UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE HOUSE, BECAUSE OF THE GEOMETRY, THE RESTRICTIVE GEOMETRY OF THE LOT, WE WE CANNOT WE CAN EITHER PUT IT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR THE LEFT SIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE BY, BY THE THE LOCATION OF THE HOUSE, THE PLACEMENT OF THE GARAGE SO THAT IT RECEIVES THE ROAD AT THE LOWEST POINT RATHER THAN TO, TO ALLOW, UH, TO TURN THE HOUSE, UH, 90 DEGREES. SO THE ROAD WOULD HAVE TO GO UP ANOTHER TEN FEET IN HEIGHT. IT WOULD WOULDN'T MAKE IT. SO WE'RE LIMITED BY MANY PARAMETERS IN THIS PARTICULAR LOT. RIGHT. AND WHAT WHAT'S AROUND THE HOUSE ARE THERE? NOTHING. IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL. 
          A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THERE'S NOTHING. UH. 
          I'M SORRY. HI, LINDA. LINDA TORELLI, I'M THE SOLE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, OWNER THE I. OKAY, SO ON EITHER SIDE, THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORS. IT'S BEHIND US THAT WE HAVE NEIGHBORS, AND EVERYONE HAS NOTIFIED. SO FROM A SIDE VIEW. 
          THERE AND SAWMILL RIVER ROAD. CORRECT. BUT YOU REALLY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM THE ROAD BECAUSE THE STATE HAS THE FIRST 85FT, UM, FROM THE STREET. AND IT'S ALSO UP A HILL. UM, UM, I'M NOT ABOUT TO PUT A POLE WHERE EVERYONE CAN SEE US. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. UM, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE ELSE TO PUT IT. WE CAN'T PUT IT BEHIND US BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. YEAH, YEAH. 
          AND SO THE SIDE IS ONLY ONE THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH. THE POOL. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THE POOL IS UP FROM THE ROAD. UH, EVERY BIT OF 14FT. SO IT'S BY DEFINITION IS PRIVATE. 
          IT'S VERY. AND WE'RE GOING TO PLANT. CAN YOU PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. CAN YOU PICK THAT UP. 
          YES. WE CAN'T SEE. IT. 
          IT'S RATHER CHARMING. AND I CREATED GARDENS ON EITHER SIDE. 
          UH, UM, AND THERE'S A PORCH ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE SO THAT IT ENJOYS THE GREENERY. THERE'S NOTHING BEHIND. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE THE PROBLEM. IT'S TOO HIGH. AND AS IT IS, WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO DO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK. 
          EXCAVATION AND RETAINING WALLS IN ORDER TO MAKE THE FINAL, UH, TOPOGRAPHY APPEAR AS IF IT WAS NEVER TOUCHED. 
          COULD YOU SHOW. US THE. 
          THE. SITE RENDERING AGAIN SO THAT WE. UNDERSTAND WHERE ON THE PROPERTY IS THE HOUSE BEING PUT. IN THE SIDE. 
          RENDERING? NO, NO, BUT IN IN. 
          RESPECT TO. NEIGHBORS AND ROADS, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AND I STILL CAN'T. 
          YOU MEAN WHAT WAS ON THE SCREEN? YES, IT WAS. ON THE SCREEN. 
          OH YES. SO IT BASICALLY IS A VACANT LOT AT THIS POINT IN BETWEEN SOME HOMES OFF OF SALT MILL RIVER ROAD, THE ENTRY POINT WOULD BE UP FROM SALT MILL ROAD INTO THE PROPERTY. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. THE THERE ARE REALLY, UM, IT'S AN UNUSUAL PIECE. THAT PIECE WAS I SAW THAT PIECE 15 YEARS AGO. I WAS GOING TO BUY THAT WITH SURVEYOR MAMADOU. AND WE WE APPROACHED THE, UH, THE. IT'S A LONG STORY, BUT I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. UM, WE WERE GOING TO DO THREE LOTS. WE ACTUALLY COULD DEVELOP TO THREE LOTS. THEN WE DECIDED WE WOULD DO TWO LOTS. THEN WE WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THEY HAD TO PROVIDE, UH, ALLOW US TO HAVE A CURB CUT, WHICH IS AN UNUSUAL, UM, DENIAL. USUALLY WE'D SAY, YEAH, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT THEY GAVE ME A STORY THAT THIS WAS A STORAGE FOR CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, WHATEVER. BUT I NEVER ASKED FOR A LETTER. IT TURNS OUT THAT IT WAS A STORY. THEY HADN'T LOOKED AT MY DRAWINGS, AND THEY JUST WANTED TO GET RID OF ME. YEARS LATER, THIS LADY SHOWS UP. SO WE GAVE UP AND THAT PROPERTY WAS WAS BEING SOLD AT $60,000. 
          YOU REALIZE THE VALUE. BUT EVEN TEN YEARS AGO. 
          BUT SO THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HOMERUN FOR US AS WE SAY IT, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANYWAY, THIS LADY SHOWS UP AND MENTIONS THE PROPERTY AND SAYS, NO, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING. OH NO. AND I TOLD HER THIS STORY. SO YOU DON'T KNOW THIS WOMAN. SHE GOES OVER TO DOTTIE AND SHE SAID, DO YOU HAVE A LETTER? AND OF COURSE SHE'S AN ATTORNEY. SHE SAID, NO, I NEVER GOT A LETTER. AND THEN I SAID, IDIOT. UH, SHE WENT THERE AND SHE ASKED, UH, THE ENGINEER IN CHARGE REALLY PUT HER ON THE SPOT, TOLD HER THE STORY, AND DEMANDED A LETTER OF EITHER ACCEPTANCE OR DENIAL BECAUSE SHE WAS A CONTRACT. VENDEE. AND OF COURSE, THE TRUTH CAME OUT THAT IT WAS, UH, IT WAS ALLOWED TO BE ENTERED, THAT THERE WAS NO SPECIAL USE FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW WHY I WOULD SO THAT BUY AND TEN YEARS AGO SHE WAS A BIT EMBARRASSED, BUT I NEVER CONFRONTED HER. THERE'S NO NEED. UH, AND OF COURSE, WE WENT THROUGH REGULAR PROCEDURES AND SURE ENOUGH, IT WAS A SELLABLE, UH, I MEAN, IT WAS A DEVELOPABLE PARCEL, AND WE NOW HAVE OBTAINED A DOT ACCESS PERMIT WITH THE DRAINAGE AND 
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THE EASEMENT FOR THE SEWER AND THE WATER, BECAUSE THAT'S. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS THE OTHER CONTENTION. BUT AND WE'RE ALMOST THERE. WE'RE WE'RE ALMOST IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS IN THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE STEEP SLOPE. AND THEN THE HARDEST PROCESS IS GOING TO BE GETTING A BUILDING PERMIT FROM THAT MAN. THERE. HE KNOWS EVERYTHING. YOU CANNOT PUT IT ONE OVER HIM. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS THAT THE NEW CODE REQUIRES ALL KINDS OF NEW THINGS. AND HE KNOWS THEM ALL. 
          AND HE'S TEACHING US THE OLD GUYS WHAT IT IS, UH, TO GO THROUGH THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE. SO THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS THIS. AND THE BEAUTY OF ANY BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION IS THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME AUGMENTATION OR ADJUSTMENT, UM, TO MINIMIZE THE VARIANCE REQUEST. BECAUSE I DO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR REQUEST REGARDING THE POOL, BECAUSE I KNOW THE PROPERTY. UM, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING FROM ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD THAT YOU COULD DO TO MINIMIZE THE DRIVEWAY, IT WOULD BE TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL IN MAKING THIS DECISION. 
          WELL, THE I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT ALREADY ONLY BECAUSE, UM, THE MINUTE YOU THE MINUTE THE DIMINISH THE AREA OF SURFACE, WE DIMINISH THE COST OF DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. UM, WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE THE, THE LANDING AREA IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE AND CUT A COUPLE OF FEET HERE, AND WE CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT. WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          AND I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU FELT WASN'T. 
          OH. NO, WE'RE PUTTING A CIRCLE IN THE MIDDLE AND JUST THROWING A PATCH. 
          OF GRASS. THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. BECAUSE WE COULD DO THAT. AND IF YOU COULD HELP US WITH THAT, I. I THINK WE HEAR YOU. OKAY. AND THEN THE RENDERING IS BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. I SEE THAT'S WORTH COMING HERE AND DRESSING. UP. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I DRESSED. UP THE CHAIR LADY ALWAYS IS IMPECCABLE. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE DESERVES THIS. AND YOU PAY ATTENTION. SHE'S ALWAYS DRESSED BEAUTIFULLY. AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH. SO OUT OF RESPECT TO HER AND THE BOARD, I DRESSED. 
          UP. AND I LIKE. IT MAKES ME LOOK GOOD WITH THE WHITE. HAIR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          NO. NO. 
          NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. HOW MANY CARS CAN CAN, UH. 
          WELL, THAT IS THAT'S A BIG ISSUE, RIGHT? WE HAVE A PARTY. 
          HOW DO WE DO? WHAT DO WE DO? YEAH. UM, I THINK WE CALCULATE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT CARS. IF ALL OF THE CARS ARE INSIDE THE THREE VEHICLES, I COULD PARK ANOTHER FIVE OUTSIDE ON THE PAVEMENT THAT I SHOW THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE IT'S LIMITING. 
          BUT IN ALMOST IN EVERY CASE RIGHT NOW IN, IN MOST, MOST PLACES THAT WE EVEN HOMES LIKE THIS, THIS SIZE BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED BY THE AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGE OF COVERAGE. AND WE ARE WE CANNOT EXCEED A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. WE CANNOT DO THIS LARGE PARKING OR EVEN A GRAVELLED AREA BECAUSE THE GRAVEL, THE AREA, THE BUILDING. THE PROBLEM IS, IS NO, THAT COUNTS AS A PAVED THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THAT'S A PAVED SURFACE. SO WE HAVE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, WISH FOR PEOPLE THAT COME IN IN GROUPS. BUT IT ISN'T IT IS AN ISSUE WITH EVERY HOUSE IN SCARSDALE, EVERY HOUSE THAT YOU SEE DEVELOPED HAS THE SAME ISSUE. WE CANNOT OFFICIALLY AND I COULD I COULD HAVE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT SPACES FOR PARKING IN THAT LOT. I HAVE THE AREA, BUT I CAN'T PAVE IT. IT WOULD NOT BE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO THEN ASK ME AS A GENTLEMAN, JUST ASK ME, CAN YOU REMOVE THAT? YOU NEED THAT MUCH PAVEMENT SO WE DON'T DESIGN FOR THE MAXIMUM POPULATION LIKE THE CARS ONLY SAVE US IF WE GO AT 40MPH, NOT AT 100. WE ONLY DESIGNED FOR 40 MILE PER HOUR IMPACT. I THINK. EXCUSE ME, I JUST MADE THAT UP. 
          I DON'T KNOW. REALLY. 
          SIR, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, THE DRIVEWAY GOES. 
          RIGHT UP TO THEIR RIGHT. RIGHT. LIKE YOU SAY, RIGHT UP TO THAT. 
          AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE. I HAVE TO BRING THE CAR RIGHT INTO THE GARAGE. SO I HAVE TO PAVE IN FRONT OF THE THREE GARAGES. SO THAT'S AT LEAST 30FT. 
          BUT THE GARAGES THAT ARE ARE AT A RIGHT ANGLE TO THE. 
          THEY'RE PERPENDICULAR. THEY'RE NO, THEY'RE THERE. RIGHT. AND I COULD END RIGHT INTO THE GARAGE.. 
          THE DRIVEWAY GOES OUT FROM THE GARAGE. 
          I KNOW I'M DRIVING FORWARD. I OPEN THE CAR A DOOR, AND I GO RIGHT INTO THE GARAGE. OKAY, THAT'S I CAN'T I'M TRYING TO SEE THAT, AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT LOOKS TO ME. SO IT'S BASICALLY LIKE A JUG HANDLE LEFT. FROM THERE. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN YOU. COMING IN AND. ANYWAY IN THE ONE THAT WE'RE APPROVED DOESN'T HAVE THIS. 
          I ALREADY TOOK THIS OUT. SO BASICALLY THE WIDTH. 
          OF IT. WE HAVE A SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO THAT LITTLE CUL DE SAC BEFORE THEY'RE NOT COLD. IT'S LIKE A LITTLE CUT OUT IS IS 40. I TOOK THIS OUT. 
          AND I TOOK. THAT OUT. 
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SO ALL WE DO NOW IS COME IN DIRECTLY. 
          INTO THE GARAGE. OH. SO THIS DRAWING IS NO LONGER ACCURATE? NO, NO, THAT'S. WELL. 
          NOW THE DRAWING. IS THE DRAWING THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOUR WOLF VOTING ON IS ACCURATE. THAT IS A DRAWING THAT WAS DONE IN, IN IN NORTH NEPAL BY SOME. SOME STARVING ARCHITECT. THAT YOU PAID $300. 
          UM. THIS SEEMS TO BE A LABOR FORCE THAT. ARCHITECTS MET KNOW. THIS. 
          BUT. THEY. 
          DO BEAUTIFUL WORK AND BUT. AGAIN, THAT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU THE HIGH THAT WAS TO SHOW THE PLANNING BOARD THE THE ESSENCE OF THE BODY AND SO ON. BUT ANYBODY FROM PAKISTAN, YOU KNOW. NEPAL. 
          NEPAL. YEAH. IF YOU IF YOU HIRE AN AMERICAN, IT WOULD BE $5,000. WITHOUT. YEAH. 
          ON THE SAVINGS INFLATION. OKAY. 
          IT AFFECTS ALL OF US. YEAH. AND THEN COME ON, COME ON UP. COME ON DOWN. 
          HAWAII. I'D LOVE TO SEE THOSE AFTER. 
          YOU. HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS, UH, SEAN CASEY FROM 118 BRADLEY AVENUE. I'M FROM A LOT 33. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, HAS ANYTHING BEEN APPROVED ON THIS? I JUST REALLY HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I HEARD FROM BEFORE, FROM MY NEIGHBOR. BUT I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UH, WHEN I GOT THIS MAILED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. HAS. HOW FAR IS THIS, UH, PROJECT? IS ANYTHING GOING FORWARD ALREADY WITH THIS PROJECT? WELL, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IT STARTED. OKAY. JUST BECAUSE, UM, THE THING THAT MAKES ME NERVOUS IS, UH, ONE THE, UM, THE, THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, OVER 4000FT . I KNOW IT SAYS SINGLE FAMILY. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADJUSTED LATER? BECAUSE I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S LIMITED TO THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THEM ON THE PROPERTY THERE. 
          SO THE ONLY THING THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR IS TO GET VARIANCES FOR THE POOL AND THE DRIVEWAY. SO IS SO YOU'RE SAYING THE HOUSE AND STUFF IS ALREADY APPROVED? NO. THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OKAY OKAY. SO YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE. 
          YES. IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW. UH, WHATEVER I. 
          HAVE, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. UM, SO THEY'RE STILL PENDING BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR APPROVAL. 
          I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS NOW, AND I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT WHERE THE PROJECT'S GOING WITH THIS. AND HE'S HE'S A CHARISMATIC GUY. HE'S DEFINITELY FUNNY, BUT I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. YEAH. NO, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST I'M. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M NERVOUS ABOUT? I'M NERVOUS WITH THE IT LOOKS, IT. LOOKS, BUT SHE SHE'S THERE. YOU GUYS CAN GO OUTSIDE AND TALK. ABOUT.. 
          HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO MEET YOU. I'M RIGHT THERE AND I WOULD. I WISH YOU WOULD, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. I'M AT 118, RIGHT BEHIND. I'M YOUR CLOSEST NEIGHBOR. BUT WHAT I'M NERVOUS ABOUT IS, UH, THE THE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE PUTTING UP IS. 
          YEAH. TALK TO THE BUILDING. OKAY. RIGHT. 
          THAT. WHAT'S THAT? IS MY HOUSE. OKAY. IT'S A IT'S A BIG. AND THEN, UH, ACCESS THE TREES THAT THEY'RE REMOVING. WHAT WHAT TREES ARE GOING TO BE COMING BACK BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I HAVE WOODS BEHIND ME, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M GETTING. UH. 
          I THOUGHT THAT THE, UM. WHEN I READ THIS, IT JUST SAID THEY WERE GOING TO REPLACE TREES ON THE PROPERTY. I DIDN'T KNOW, AND IF I'M OUT OF LINE FOR SPEAKING HERE AND DONE SOMEWHERE ELSE, PLEASE, I JUST, UH. 
          YOU GOT TO NOTICE. I'M JUST. YEAH, I JUST GOT THE NOTICE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, SO WHAT'S COMING IN NEXT TO ME? TO THE TREES. 
          BUT THERE'S A THERE'S, AS YOU SAID, HE CAN GO. AND THE THE RECORD IS STILL OPEN IN THE PLANNING BOARD. YOU CAN CERTAINLY GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. AND THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE, BUT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO AND ASK THESE QUESTIONS IN ANSWERING. THE DIRECT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THERE'S A TREE SURVEY THAT WAS DONE BY US. WE SUBMITTED THE TREE SURVEY. WE IDENTIFIED EVERY TREE THAT WAS GOING TO BE CUT. AND WE ALSO SUBMITTED AN ADDITIONAL NUMBER OF TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED. AND THAT'S PART OF THE TREE ORDINANCES OF THE, OF THE OF THE VILLAGE, OF THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG. SO ALL OF THAT, YOU'VE MISSED ALL THAT FUN. UM, YEAH. BUT YOU. 
          DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM DID YOU GUYS GET NOTIFIED? I DIDN'T WE DIDN'T. 
          GET NOTIFIED. WELL, SHE. I YOUR CLOSEST HOUSE. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY. WHERE ARE YOU? I'M CURIOUS TO SEE. WHICH ONE. 33. 
          WELL, NO. IN THAT DRAWING. WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I'M BRADLEY AVENUE. I'M NOT 33. I'M THE CLOSEST HOUSE TO WHERE YOU ARE. SO YOU ARE NEXT TO THE THE GUY THAT WORKS IN WALL STREET AND ONE AT THE BOTTOM, RIGHT. YOU MEAN YOU'RE OFF OF BRADLEY? SO THE. 
          HIS HIS. LIE. 
          HIS LOT IS HIGHLIGHTED. IN YELLOW. 
          OKAY. SO YOU ARE ON MY RIGHT SIDE. SO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS DRAWING. UH, PLEASE, AND I'LL 
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SHOW YOU THE POSSIBLE IMPACT THAT YOU MIGHT. 
          UH, MR. ESCALADE IS JUST. YOU'RE AWARE THE GENTLEMAN'S HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE? YES. NO, I JUST REALIZED THAT GO TO THE PREVIOUS DRAWINGS SO THAT HE CAN SEE WHERE THE FOOTPRINT. THERE YOU GO. YOU SEE, BRADLEY, YOU SEE YOUR LOT? YEP. THAT'S IT. I'M RIGHT THERE. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE MY NEIGHBOR. 
          I WASN'T NOTIFIED. WELL, OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOTIFIED NOW? IT'S A PROBLEM. I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE OR NOT, BUT WE SEND LETTERS TO. EVERYBODY, OKAY? WE GOT TO TAKE IT. LET'S TAKE EVERYONE. TAKE THE TIME OUT. ONE PERSON WILL SPEAK AT A TIME. WELL, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE WE SEND LETTERS TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS, SO I. I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU. I SENT LETTERS OUT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T GET. SO FOLKS, THAT'S FOLKS. 
          SIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? YES. MYSELF TO THAT. 
          UH, ONE MORE COMMENT JUST IS ON AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN. UH, PARK. WOW. SORRY. SAWMILL RIVER ROAD THERE. THOSE LIGHTS ARE NEVER ON. SO I DON'T THOSE THERE'S NO LIGHTS THERE. 
          THERE'S A LIGHT WHEN YOU COME ONTO PARK AVENUE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET GET SOME LIGHTS GOING THERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE JUST DANGEROUS. THAT'S ALL. SO AGAIN IT WAS KIND OF OUTLINED. AND SOMETIMES IT DOES GET A LITTLE CONVOLUTED WHAT THE PROCESS IS IN TERMS OF BUILDING A HOME, CHANGING THE GARAGE, GETTING LUCKY STRIKE ON BOWLING ALLEY WHERE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, MEANING THAT THERE IS A SET CODE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR WHICH YOU CAN BUILD OR DO ANYTHING IF IT SHOULD NEED WHAT IS CONSIDERED A VARIANCE OR A CHANGE TO THAT CODE. THEY COME BEFORE US TO ASK WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW WHAT, CAN I HAVE A PET KANGAROO IN MY YARD AS AN ORNAMENT OR CHICKEN OR A CHICKEN? AND THEN WE WILL SAY YAY OR NAY. THE THE NEXT PART TO BUILDING ANYTHING WOULD BE THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          AND WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD DOES IS IT SITS DOWN AND LOOKS AT GREENBERG IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND HOW PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE AND WHAT TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN CUSTOMARY WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP. AS MR. ESCALADE HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME VERY STRICT CODES HERE, AND I USUALLY TELL PEOPLE THIS LITTLE ANALOGY WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN CENTRAL AVENUE, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHEN YOU HIT THE YONKERS BORDER, BECAUSE ONCE YOU HIT THAT YONKERS BORDER WHERE THERE USED TO BE, UH, BABIES R US AND TOYS R US, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE SIGNS GO OFF AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE IN VEGAS. AND THEN AS SOON AS YOU CROSS BACK INTO THE GREENBERG AREA OR GREENVILLE SECTION. EDGEMONT SECTION. HAVE YOU BEEN? THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THINGS STARTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MODEST. AND THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT AS A ORDINANCE BODY, WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY TRIED TO JUST KEEP THAT QUALITY OF LIFE OR THAT INTEREST FACTOR HERE FOR EVERYONE, SO THAT THERE'S SOME COMMONALITY IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTIES. SO IN THE PLANNING BOARD, AS HE WAS SAYING, WITH THE TREE SUBMISSION, THE TOWN DOES HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT TREE POLICY. SO THEY NOW HAVE APPLIED TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THIS ELEGANT. LARGE HOME THAT WOULD BE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR HOME. AND THAT PLANNING BOARD WOULD THEN TAKE ANY CONSIDERATION FROM THE NEIGHBORS. ANY CONSIDERATIONS FROM UH, SCHOOLS? UH, THE POLICE, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES, FIRE. AND AT THAT TIME, ONCE THEY FIND THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING AMENABLE, THEN THEY WOULD GET THE OPTION TO MOVE FORWARD. AND AS MR. ESCALADA SAID, THEN IT WOULD THEN BE KICKED OVER TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND THEN HE'D HAVE TO SUBMIT PLANS THAT ARE NOT HOPEFULLY FROM OVERSEAS, THAT YOU CANNOT QUANTIFY THE ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING VARIANCES. I MEAN THAT YOU WILL SUBMIT SOMETHING THAT IS STAMPED BY US ARCHITECT. BUT THE POINT BEING IS AT THAT POINT THEN THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD THE PROPERTY. SO THEY HAVE THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A WAYS TO GO AND YOU WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. 
          ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO SAY, AND HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE AND THE THE WORST CASE FOR THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORS WOULD BE THREE LOTS, WHICH PROBABLY I COULD SQUEEZE IN TERMS OF GEOMETRY AND SITE REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS SIMPLY ELIMINATED THE POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPING INTO 3 OR 2 HOMES AND JUST DID ONE. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES OF COVERAGES THAT WE HAVE A BIG HOUSE BECAUSE WE CAN WE HAVEN'T EXCEEDED, WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN NEAR THE MAXIMUM THAT WE'RE ALLOWED BECAUSE IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE LOT AREA, AND THAT LOT ENDS UP BEING A VERY LARGE LOT. SO WE CAN DO THIS HOUSE FOR SURE, AND EVEN MORE, IT COULD EVEN BE BIGGER. 
          SORRY IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS, I WOULD HAVE COME AND ASKED TO FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. JUST THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY THING. AND AS FAR AS PROPERTY AND STUFF ON WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO, WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING IS RIGHT ON TOP OF IT, RIGHT NEXT TO MYSELF, WHERE MY HOUSE IS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE UP THERE ARE GOING TO BE. AND SO. 
          YOU ARE. I WILL RESPOND TO STRESS, MR. ESCOBAR, I WILL RESPOND, I WILL RESPOND, SIR, JUST FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION. SO WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. UM, PROCESS WISE, I DID WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT, UM, THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT DOES 
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NEED TO GET A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. THAT PUBLIC HEARING HAS YET TO OCCUR, SO YOU WILL GET A SUBSEQUENT NOTICE AND YOU WILL GET A SUBSEQUENT NOTICE FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS. AND THE PLANNING BOARD KEYS IN ON TREE REMOVAL, SLOPE IMPACTS, PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORS. UM, SO THAT WILL BE A SEPARATE PROCESS. THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THE LOCATION OF THE POOL AND THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT THEY SEEK. 
          NO PROBLEM AT ALL. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST, YOU KNOW. AND JUST ONE FURTHER CLARIFICATION. THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THAT HAS HAPPENED. SO THIS IS THE FIRST NOTICE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PERFECT. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION HERE. COME ON. 
          COME COME UP TO THE MIC. I'M HIS WIFE. SO I LIVE. 
          AT 118 BRADLEY AVENUE TWO. I HAVE A QUESTION. OH, SORRY. 
          PAMELA CASEY. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE POOL LOCATION. 
          BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. WHERE? WHERE IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE? AND WHERE DO THEY WANT TO MOVE IT TO? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND FROM THE DRAWINGS BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY HAD TO PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE LOT IS, THE LOT LOOKS LIKE A V, OKAY. IT HAS TO FIT IN THERE. AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET APPROVAL TO PUT IT THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE A REGULAR, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS. YOU HAVE THIS RIGHT. 
          SO AND I THINK WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED AS WELL IS THAT IF THEY WERE TO PUT THE POOL IN THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THAT STEEP SLOPE. SO WHICH WOULD BE DIRECTLY BEHIND YOU. MY ISSUE IS THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE REAR OF THE HOUSE IS, BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE A FREAKING HOTEL, SO I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE IS THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THE. I SAW THE GARAGE. 
          HERE'S YOUR. LAST RIGHT HERE. 
          SO THIS IS YOUR REAL. IT IS MY SIDE. THEN AFTER YOU HAVE 80FT OF SIDE, I HAVE THE HOUSE WHICH BLOCKS COMPLETELY. 
          CAN WE TAKE THIS OUTSIDE, PLEASE? BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE POOL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR. RIGHT HERE ABOUT THE WALL. 
          OH, JUST THE DRIVEWAY. I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THE POOL TO THE. SO THE POOL. THE. 
          POOL WOULD BE THE RECOMMEND JUST FOR POINT OF ORDER FOR POINT OF ORDER. WHEN YOU ARE DISPLAYING YOUR PLANS AND POINTING TO THEM, YOU'RE SHOWING THE BOARD. IF THE RESIDENT WANTS TO ORIENT THEMSELVES, WE NEED TO SHOW THAT ON CAMERA AS OPPOSED TO JUST ORIENTING YOU. BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SHE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE POOL IS. 
          IF YOU COULD PLEASE RESPOND TO THAT. 
          YEAH. LUCKILY WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. THIS IS A PROPERTY HERE. IT'S ON THE HIGH SIDE IN THE BACK AND THE DISTANCE FROM HERE TO THE HOUSE IS ROUGHLY 8090FT. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. NOW WE HAVE A PROPOSED EXCAVATION GARDEN ISSUE GOING ON HERE, WHICH WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO. WE CAN CREATE A YARD FOR OURSELVES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LAND GOES. SO, UM, ALL THESE TREES THAT ARE THERE WILL REMAIN PLUS MORE TREES. SO THE BUFFER BETWEEN HER LOT AND THE HOUSE IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF BY 40FT OF VEGETATION AND TREES AND PROPOSED NUTRIENTS. THEN YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF, WHICH IS ABOUT 80FT ACROSS. 
          CAN I ASK YOU, WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS A GARDEN. 
          THAT'S GARDEN. THERE'S NOTHING. 
          THERE. GRASS. NO POOL. WE COULD PUT THE POOL THERE, BY THE WAY. YEAH. TO BE HONEST, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T. CARE HERE. I JUST CLOSE IT TO YOUR BACKYARD AND WE INVITE YOUR KIDS OVER. 
          SO. SO NOW WE HAVE A PARKING LOT. 
          BUT. NO, NO, IT'S. NOT SO. 
          YES. NO, THERE'S NO PART. THIS IS ALL GREEN STUFF. 
          CAN I. YOU KNOW WHAT I MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO RESOLVE ANYTHING HERE TONIGHT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO GO AND HAVE A CONVERSATION OUTSIDE. 
          THIS IS A CLEAR CASE TO THE BOARD. JUST BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET PLANS. AFTER I. 
          OH, EMILIO, EMILIO, AT THIS POINT, I'M CONCERNED. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS AND I. ALWAYS THOUGHT. 
          YOU COULDN'T BUILD HERE SO CLOSE THIS ROOM. THAT'S VERY SARCASTIC, VERY SARCASTIC. I WISH YOU COULD TAKE A VOTE, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, I DIDN'T GET A LETTER. NO, THEY GOT A. 
          LETTER FIVE. DAYS AGO. 
          SURE. I'M SURE YOU GOT A. LETTER? FIVE DAYS. HEY, GUYS. 
          SIR, THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE. YOU MUST STOP. YOU CAN'T BE TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND YELLING AT EACH OTHER. ANY CONVERSATION SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO. 
          US, MADAM CHAIR. LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE ON. YES. 
          ACTUALLY, IF THE APPLICANT AND THE ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO SIT FOR A MOMENT, YOU CAN. SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THEIR COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. HI. 
          JEN. MATTHEW 116 BRADLEY AVENUE. SO NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS WITH PAM AND SEAN. MY HOUSE HAS A RETAINING WALL ON THE SIDE OF IT. SO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION I UNDERSTAND THIS IS POOL PART AND DRIVEWAY PART. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE BOARD AWARE OF THAT, UM, RETAINING WALL AND HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD AFFECT THAT SOIL EROSION. IT IS A STEEP SLOPE, AS THEY MENTIONED. 
          SLEEP. NO, NO, NO. HOLD ON. WE'LL ANSWER IT BECAUSE. TO THE LEFT OF THE YELLOW. 
          BOX, ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE ALREADY ANSWERED TO MRS. 
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ESCALADA. LET US JUST ANSWER VERY QUICKLY. THEY MUST STILL GO BEFORE TWO OTHER BOARDS TO TALK ABOUT STEEP SLOPES, AND TO GET THAT VARIANCE DONE AS WELL, TO GET THE APPROVAL. SO THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY STAGE OF WHAT THEIR ASK IS. AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE 2 OR 3, MAYBE FOUR OTHER PHASES THAT IT HAS TO GO TO. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH THEM THAT CONCERN. AND THEN THEY'LL WEIGH IN ON IT. THEY'LL SEND EXPERTS OUT TO LOOK AND SEE EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD IMPACT YOUR PROPERTY. OKAY. 
          AND TO JUST NOTE, I'M THE LEFT OF THAT YELLOW BOX PROPERTY. SO IT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THE HOUSE THAT WOULD. 
          BE BUILT. YEAH. WE'RE NOT. THERE. OKAY. 
          YEAH. JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THOUGH. THANK YOU. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING. IT'S JUST AMAZING ABOUT PEOPLE. I JUST LOVE IT. 
          WE MET WITH OUR HUSBAND IN MY OFFICE AND EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT HE HAD INVADED OUR PROPERTY 20, 30FT WITH CHILDREN'S. WE DON'T CARE. WE WERE TRYING TO WORK AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM BECAUSE WE. 
          THIS ISN'T REALLY NECESSARY. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT SHE WAS TOLD EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, OKAY, A LITTLE BIT OF THE HYPOCRISY GOING ON. 
          THAT'S OKAY. I'M TELLING HER LIKE IT IS. YOU GOT TO LET ME SAY IT. YOU GOTTA LET ME SAY IT BECAUSE THAT'S THE TRUTH. THEY WERE IN MY OFFICE. WE EXPLAINED TO THEM YOU'RE IN VIOLATION. YOU ARE OVER OUR PROPERTY. WE WILL HELP YOU FIX THIS ISSUE. AND THAT WAS IT. THEY EVEN HAVE A RETAINING WALL THAT'S FAILING. I EXPLAINED TO HER HUSBAND. IF I CALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I SAY THERE'S A FAILING WALL, THEY'RE GOING TO GET A VIOLATION. SO NOW I'M SAYING THERE'S A VIOLATION BECAUSE THERE'S A FAILING WALL TO THE SAWMILL RIVER ROAD. SO NOW WHERE ARE WE? THAT'S THE TRUTH. 
          AND WE TRY TO WORK THINGS OUT. I DIDN'T ASK A. 
          LOT. I MEAN, OF THAT. THERE'S NO REASON FOR ME TO CALL ANYBODY BUT TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. HERE WE ARE. 
          NO, BUT THEY DID GET LETTERS. I'M SURE THEY GOT. 
          LETTERS.. A LOT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT ON THE STEEP SLOPE RIGHT NOW. THAT IS NOT THAT'S NOT EVEN PART OF OUR DELIBERATION AT THIS MOMENT. I JUST WANTED YOU TO VOTE BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO VOTE. THAT'S MY POINT IN MAKING THIS. AND AND FOR POLITICS REASONS, YOU HAVE TO RELAY THIS. I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT UNLESS YOU WANT SOME MORE INFORMATION. WE HAVEN'T. 
          WE HAVEN'T. DELIBERATED YET. 
          OKAY. WE HAVE TO DELIBERATE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF WE'RE READY TO TAKE. A VOTE. 
          OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. 
          DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER HER QUESTION? YOU CAN SIT. AND LISTEN. 
          JUST TO PUT. ON ME. AMELIA. ESCALADA. 
          AMELIA. AMELIA. SO JUST TO ANSWER THAT, YOUR NEIGHBOR'S QUESTION IS THAT POOLS ARE RESTRICTED UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AS AMELIA STATED TO THE REAR YARD ONLY BASED ON THE WAY THIS PROPERTY IS SITUATED, THE REAR OF THAT PROPERTY IS STEEPLY SLOPED, AND THERE'S A LIMITED AREA BEHIND IT. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE FOR THE SIDE YARD ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE HOME FROM WHERE YOUR PROPERTY IS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GIVES YOU CLARIFICATION. 
          YOU CAN SEE. IN THIS ROOM. 
          SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER CASES. 
          AND I BELIEVE IF I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD, BUT I DO HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS POINT. SO. WHAT'S ONE FINAL QUESTION? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE BOARD WANTS ME TO ANSWER? ANYTHING THAT'S UNCLEAR IN OUR PRESENTATION AND OUR EXPLANATION OF WHY WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, OR WHAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEMAND FROM THE SYSTEM, WHICH IS AN ANSWER FROM THE BOARD. I THINK WE'VE GIVEN THE BOARD EVERYTHING THAT THEY ASKED, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY CAN VOTE TONIGHT. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. 
          WE NOW GO TO 2618 NEW YORK SCHOOL ROUTE FOR THE DEAF. 
          OKAY. THANKS. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR GIVING OUR SCHOOL THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TONIGHT. MY NAME IS DOCTOR JOSEPH SANTINI. I'M THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR NEW YORK SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF GREENBURG AT 555 NORWOOD ROAD. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE APPROVAL FOR A LIGHT FOR LIGHTS AND SCOREBOARD ON OUR TRACK AND FIELD. IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. 
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OUR SCHOOL HAS BEEN HERE IN GREENSBURG SINCE 1937. I BEGAN WORKING AT THE SCHOOL FIVE YEARS AGO. WHEN I ARRIVED, THE CAMPUS TRACK AND FIELD WAS COMPLETELY UNDEVELOPED AND THE CHILDREN WERE PLAYING IN UNSAFE CONDITIONS. THAT WEEK, I HAPPENED TO MEET WITH SENATE MAJORITY LEADER ANDREA STEWART-COUSINS AND TALK TO HER ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY OF THE SCHOOL. SHE WAS VERY KIND TO OFFER THE SCHOOL A LARGE GRANT TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION FOR A NEW TRACK AND FIELD. THAT WAS IN 2022. WE BEGAN WORKING ON THAT, AND IN THE PROCESS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE SURE THE FIELD WAS FULLY ACCESSIBLE FOR OUR STUDENTS. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 130 STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOL PROGRAM. ALL OF OUR STUDENTS ARE DEAF OR HARD OF HEARING AND DEPEND ON VISUAL CUES AND LIGHTING FOR ACCESSIBILITY. SOME OF OUR STUDENTS ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL DISABILITIES. THIS PROJECT WOULD MAKE OUR FACILITIES FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN HISTORY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. AS PART OF THE PROJECT, WE WANT TO INSTALL LIGHTING AND A SCOREBOARD THAT ARE VISIBLE FOR ALL OF OUR CHILDREN. THE LIGHTS ON OUR PROPERTY WILL BE 70FT TALL AND WILL REQUIRE A VARIANCE FROM THE ZONING BOARD, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS VARIANCE SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION ON OUR TRACK AND FIELD. WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT WOULD BE OPTIMAL FOR THE CAMPUS, BUT ALSO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT IMPACTING OUR NEIGHBORS. WE'VE INVITED OUR ARCHITECT HERE TONIGHT, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM AGE TWO, M MIKE VOLPE, TO SPEAK TO THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS OF THE FIELD AND THE LIGHTING ASPECTS. IF YOU COULD APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WE WOULD BE DEEPLY GRATEFUL AND YOU WOULD BE SAVING OUR SCHOOL COSTS. HIGH COST FROM MONTH TO MONTH THAT WE CARRY. APPROVING THE FIELD WOULD MEAN SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE BROUGHT A PETITION TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT FROM OUR STUDENTS, PARENTS, FAMILIES, STAFF. IF YOU COULD LOOK THROUGH THAT, YOU CAN SEE JUST HOW MUCH OUR PARENTS AND STUDENTS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING ACCESS TO THIS FIELD. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MIKE PHELPS TO COME UP AND SHARE THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHERE THE LIGHTS WOULD BE PLACED AND THE LIGHT SPILL FOR THE IMMEDIATE AREA. MIKE. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. 
          MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS MICHAEL VOLPE, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FROM THE FIRM, WHOM ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS WITH OFFICE AT 538 BROAD HOLLOW ROAD, MELVILLE, NEW YORK. 
          11747. I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING THE BOARD, STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS APPLICATION, UH, WHICH IS ON BEHALF OF NEW YORK SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF AND IS SEEKING A LIMITED HEIGHT VARIANCE, UH, THAT WILL ALLOW THE SCHOOL TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT OF A MAJOR ATHLETIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT IS ALREADY UNDERWAY. THE VARIANCE IS BEING REQUESTED. AS DOCTOR SANTINI ALREADY MENTIONED, ARE FOR THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF LIGHT FIXTURES WHERE 12FT IS PROPOSED. I'M SORRY, WE'RE 14FT IS PERMITTED AND 70FT IS PROPOSED. AND FOR THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WHERE 12FT IS PERMITTED AND 23.88FT IS PROPOSED. AS DOCTOR SANTINI ALREADY MENTIONED, THE SCHOOL HAS A VERY LONG STANDING REPUTATION FOR EXCELLENCE IN DEAF EDUCATION AND IS RECOGNIZED FOR ITS COMMITMENT TO INDIVIDUALIZED INSTRUCTION, ACCESSIBILITY. ATHLETICS, STUDENT DEVELOPMENT, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THIS PROJECT CONTINUES THAT TRADITION BY INVESTING IN FACILITIES THAT SUPPORT STUDENT HEALTH, WELLNESS, INCLUSION, AND SCHOOL PRIDE. SIMPLY PUT, THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN STUDENTS ACCESSIBILITY, ATHLETICS, AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR A VERY WELL DESERVING SCHOOL. THE LIGHTING WILL PROVIDE MODERN DIRECTIONAL LED FIXTURES DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR ATHLETIC COMPETITION AND SAFETY. ATHLETIC FIELDS REQUIRE ELEVATED LIGHTING FIXTURES AND POLE HEIGHTS PROPOSED IN THIS. 
          IN THIS APPLICATION ARE CONSISTENT WITH COMMONLY ACCEPTED HEIGHTS FOR SCHOOL ATHLETIC FACILITIES, WHICH ALLOW LIGHTING FIXTURES TO EVENLY DISTRIBUTE LIGHT ACROSS THE FIELD. UM, THERE WAS A RECENT APPLICATION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD TO TO INSTALL THE SAME HEIGHT LIGHT POLES THAT WAS AT THE ELMS FOR LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD. 
          UH, AND THERE ARE ALMOST A DOZEN OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITIES IN THE NEARBY AREA THAT ALSO UTILIZE THE SAME POOLS, POLES. 
          UM, MANHATTANVILLE UNIVERSITY, SLEEPY HOLLOW HIGH SCHOOL, VALHALLA HIGH SCHOOL, SCARSDALE HIGH SCHOOL, ARDSLEY HIGH 
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SCHOOL, EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL, AND WHITE PLAINS HIGH SCHOOL. 
          UM. A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY WAS PREPARED BY MUSCO LIGHTING, WHICH FOUND THAT THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT LIGHT SPILL OVER THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, THIS THIS STUDY ALSO DID NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE LARGE WOODED AREA THAT SURROUNDS THE PROPERTY. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURE ON THE BOARD. 
          THERE ARE MATURE, DENSE, WOODED AREAS OF 65 TO 95FT THAT SURROUND THE ENTIRE CAMPUS, UM, THAT CREATE JUST A NATURAL VISUAL AND LIGHT BUFFER. UH, THE OTHER HEIGHT VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED IS FOR THE NEW SCOREBOARD. UH, ALSO VERY NECESSARY BEING THAT THE SCHOOL IS FOR THE DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING. UM, THERE WON'T BE A LOUD SOUND SYSTEM. INSTEAD, STUDENTS, UH, ATHLETES AND SPECTATORS WILL RELY ON THE VISUAL OF THE SCOREBOARD, UM, TO BE PROJECTED. SO IN SUMMARY, THE SCHOOL HAS ALREADY MADE A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN CREATING A FIRST CLASS ATHLETIC FACILITY FOR ITS STUDENTS AND GRANTING OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCES WOULD ALLOW THE FACILITY TO TO OPERATE IN ITS GREATEST POTENTIAL. THESE IMPROVEMENTS REMAIN ENTIRELY WITHIN THE SCHOOL'S CAMPUS, WHICH IS SURROUNDED BY TALL, MATURE, WOODED AREAS AND ARE TYPICAL FOR ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING AND SCOREBOARD INSTALLATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. 
          AND, UM, TO ANSWER ANY. QUESTIONS. 
          I WENT OUT AND TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND I MET THIS WOMAN RIGHT HERE WITH RED HAIR. YES. UM, SO THIS IS LIKE A COLLEGE CAMPUS. THERE ARE NO PRIVATE HOMES OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ANYWHERE NEAR THIS FIELD, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND, UM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO USE IT FOR? IS THIS A SOCCER FIELD? IS THIS A TRACK AND FIELD? IT'S IT'S BOTH. IT'S A IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLAN UP ON THE BOARD. SO THERE'S A SOCCER FIELD, UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO TRACK AND FIELD EVENTS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE. AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY LAMPS DO YOU PROPOSE? THERE'S FOUR LIGHT POLES. UM, YEAH. AS GARRETT'S HIGHLIGHTING ON THE SCREEN. MHM. AND THEN THE SCOREBOARD IS ON THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF THE TRACK. 
          WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE SCOREBOARD? 23.88FT. AND THOSE MUSCO LIGHTS THAT YOU'RE USING ARE THOSE LEDS. OR DID THEY COME OUT AND DO A LASER STUDY ON THAT AS WELL TO ENSURE DIRECTIONAL POSITIONING OF THOSE LIGHTS. UM I'M NOT SURE IF THEY DID THAT STUDY, BUT I KNOW THEY, THEY THERE'S A 13 PAGE REPORT THAT THEY PREPARED. UM, THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET. THAT KIND OF SHOWS WHERE. YEAH, GARRETT HAS IT UP. IT SHOWS WHERE THE LIGHT IS SPREADING ON THE FIELD, WHERE THOSE LIGHTS ARE DIRECTED. UM, AND THEN THE LIGHT SPREAD ACROSS THE. 
          AND THEN JUST WITH THE SCOREBOARD ITSELF. UM, CODE REQUIRED IT TO BE WHAT YOU CALL HIM. 
          UH, 12FT IS PERMITTED. DOUBLE, DOUBLE THE SIZE.. 
          IS IT DOUBLE THE SIZE? DOUBLE THE HEIGHT. 
          THE HEIGHT. OF THE CODE. 
          I DIDN'T SEE THE DIMENSIONS IN THE PACKET FOR THE BOARD. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN AND EXPLAIN ONE REASON THAT WE WANT THE LARGER SCOREBOARD AGAIN IS FOR VISUAL ACCESS, NOT JUST FOR DEAF CHILDREN, BUT ALSO FOR CHILDREN WHO HAVE LIMITED VISION. MANY OF OUR STUDENTS ARE DEAF, BUT ALSO DEAF BLIND. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS VISUALLY ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, WHICH IS ONE REASON THE SCOREBOARD IS LARGER THAN OTHERS. AND THEN THE ILLUMINATION VALUE OF THIS BOARD IN COMPARISON TO OTHERS IS AT LED BOARD OR JUST NUMBERS AND FIGURES. YEAH, IT'S IT'LL HAVE AN LED DISPLAY AS WELL AS NUMBERS AND FIGURES. YES. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION. UM, YOU HAD INDICATED THAT, UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE LIGHT WAS VERY WAS ON PAR WITH ALL THE OTHER, LIKE MANHATTANVILLE, SCARSDALE SCHOOLS WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG. EDGEWATER. WHAT ABOUT THE SCOREBOARD? IS IT ARE THE OR IS THAT ON PAR, OR HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE BIGGER? UM, THAT I'M NOT TOO SURE. 
          DO YOU KNOW, LIKE, HAS ANYBODY ELSE GOTTEN VARIANCES OR FOR SCORE THE. SCOREBOARD. NOT NOT TO MY IMMEDIATE KNOWLEDGE. UM, I, I CAN TAKE A QUICK LOOK IF YOU SEE. THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR THEIR SCOREBOARDS, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE LOCATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE SCOREBOARDS. UH, THEY DON'T APPLY TO ZONING. SO THE TOWN WOULD, IT WOULD JUST. IT WOULD BE THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS. YEAH. THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS. 
          WELL, THERE'S THE YOU KNOW, THERE'S MARIA REGINA, THERE'S UM, YOU KNOW, BUT SOLOMON SCHECHTER, THERE'S THOSE ARE 
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PRIVATE SCHOOLS. BUT AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR BOARD DOES HAVE SOME NECESSITY IN TERMS OF AN ADA COMPLIANCE. 
          YES. SO TOTALLY AGREE. 
          I JUST. JUST AS WE LOOK AT IT AND POTENTIALLY FOR A WRITE UP, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT OKAY. BUT NOT NOT CRITICAL. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND IS THIS IS IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ZONING, OR IS THERE SOME SPECIAL ZONING FOR SCHOOL USE? A MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOLS AND THE CAMPUSES, SUCH AS WCC SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF, HACKLEY, ALL THE UM PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TYPICALLY IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS.. 
          AND SO THEY'RE THEY'RE HELD TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, RULES. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE SPECIAL RULES BECAUSE OF THEIR SPECIAL USE. 
          RIGHT. THERE ARE NOT LOT IN BULK STANDARDS FOR HEIGHTS FOR SCHOOLS. SO THE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, UM, SCHOOLS LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE TO COME IN FOR UM THE LIGHT HEIGHT AS, AS IS PROPOSED HERE. OKAY. SO HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER, UH, ZONING VARIANCES GIVEN FOR THESE, UH, VERY TALL LIGHT POLES? HACKLEY SCHOOL I CAME IN WITH SIMILAR LIGHTS. AND THE MOST RECENT TESTIMONY. MUSCO IS THE LIGHT PROVIDER. IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY WERE ALSO THE LIGHT PROVIDER FOR THE TOWN PROJECT AT WEST BROOK PARK. AND THEIR TESTIMONY WAS SUCH THAT IF THE LIGHTS WERE PROPOSED AT 60, BECAUSE THAT'S THE NATURAL QUESTION, WHY NOT GO TO 60 OR 50? UM, ULTIMATELY, THE SCIENTIFIC RESPONSE WAS THAT WHEN YOU GO THAT LOW, THE SPRAY ACTUALLY GOES FURTHER BEYOND WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU WOULD NEED MORE LIGHTS. SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO SAY 50 OR 60, YOU MAY NEED SIX LIGHTS AND IT WON'T BE AS EFFICIENT. SO YOU ACTUALLY ARE WORKING AGAINST THE INTEREST OF KEEPING SPRAY INTERIOR TO THE SITE. UM, JUST FOR REFERENCE, THE SCOREBOARD, UH, IS APPROXIMATELY HERE. UM, OH, DO I HAVE THAT WRONG? HERE? HERE? YES. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. YOU JUST HAVE. THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. THE GOLF CLUB WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT THE PICKLEBALL COURT, DIDN'T THEY? JUST DIDN'T THEY COME. 
          FOR A VARIANCE? AND THAT WAS FOR THE NETTING. 
          THAT WAS FOR THE NETTING, THE HEIGHT OF THE NETTING. 
          THE NETTING WAS AT SUNNINGDALE. I THOUGHT. 
          THEY WERE THE LAST SCHOOL THAT WE DID. A VARIANCE WAS MARIA REGINA AND THE BANNERS, UM, THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THEIR DRIVEWAY. I DON'T. 
          HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. NOTHING. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD, IF I MAY, THE SCOREBOARD IS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL, AS MIKE VOLPE HAS MENTIONED, THERE WOULD BE NO SOUND SYSTEM CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT. INSTEAD, OUR STUDENTS WILL BE USING THE SCOREBOARD TO SIGN AND COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY SO IT WILL BECOME A VISUAL MEANS OF COMMUNICATION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH VIEWERS AND THE AUDIENCE. SO WE WOULD TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT IN THIS. CAN I CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH ONE QUESTION? THE SCOREBOARD, WILL IT BE VISIBLE OUTSIDE OF THE COMPLEX? NO, NO, NO, IT WON'T BE. 
          THE CLOSEST THE CLOSEST HOME TO THE SIDE OF CONSTRUCTION IS MY OWN. I'M VERY INTENT ON MAKING SURE I CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT. I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE SCHOOL IN THE MORNING SO I CAN PROMISE YOU NOTHING SHOULD BE VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD OR ANY RESIDENTIAL SPACES. OH, JUST ONE LAST ONE. 
          THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION. HOURS OF OPERATION. THE LATEST THAT YOU THINK YOU MIGHT GO. TYPICALLY, OUR PROGRAM FOR ATHLETICS IS FINISHED BY 6:30 P.M.. OUR STUDENTS GET ON THE BUS TO HEAD HOME. WE ACTUALLY SERVE 35 DIFFERENT DISTRICTS ACROSS NEW YORK STATE. AND THE STUDENTS CANNOT STAY TOO LATE. 
          IN THE EVENING, OUR ALUMNI HAVE ASKED IN THE SUMMERTIME IF THEY COULD HOST AN ALUMNI PROM, WHICH MAY FINISH BY 9 P.M.. 
          THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO COME UP? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. IT IS. 822 I'M PUSHING. 
          AND THE NEXT CASE IS 2619 SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. 
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ONE. ONE. 180 JUNIOR HILL ROAD. THE FIRST. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS VELMA WALKER, AND I'M REPRESENTING THE FIRST SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH OF WHITE PLAINS AT 180 JUNIPER HILL ROAD. AND WE'RE SEEKING A VARIANCE FOR SECTION 25-12. UM, IN PREVIOUS. 
          SERVICE. SERVICE? IMPERVIOUS SERVICE. 
          COULD YOU JUST. COULD YOU JUST SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? YEAH. THERE YOU GO. GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. IMPERVIOUS SURFACE FROM 28%. 29% TO 58.18%. AS PROPOSED, IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE BASEMENT AND INSTALL RAMPS AND AN ELEVATOR AT THE CHURCH. JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR A CHURCH OR CHURCH WAS BUILT IN 1972, AND AT ONCE WE HAD, UM, AS MUCH AS 600 UM MEMBERS ON BOARD. BUT NOW WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 300 OF THE 300 MEMBERS. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ELDERLY. OUR OLDEST IS, UM, ONE IVY DARLING, WHO'S 103, AND, UM, SHE HAS EXPRESSED HER HER CONCERNS ABOUT GETTING TO CHURCH. SHE'S NOT ABLE TO GET TO CHURCH. UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO, LIKE, 21 STEPS DOWNSTAIRS TO THE FELLOWSHIP HALL, AND SHE'S NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. NOT ONLY HER ALONE, BUT ALL THE OTHER SICK AND SHUT INS, WHICH PROBABLY AROUND 12 OF US, UM, IS NOT ABLE TO GET TO THE THE FELLOWSHIP HALL WHERE WE DO HAVE OUR LUNCH ON THE SABBATH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY. AND, UM, IN ORDER TO GET DOWN, IF ONE PERSON COMES IN A WHEELCHAIR, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS STRONG MAN LIFT THAT PERSON DOWNSTAIRS IN THE WHEELCHAIR TO GET TO FELLOWSHIP WITH US. WE ALSO DO HAVE A POPULATION THAT YOUNGER POPULATION THAT ARE PRONE TO ACCIDENTS. THEY HAVE BROKEN LEGS AND ANKLES. SOME SUFFER FROM ARTHRITIS AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM ALSO GETTING TO THE BASEMENT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING TO PUT AN ELEVATOR IN. 
          ALSO, WE DO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, UM, OUR OUR OUTREACH COMMITTEE, OUTREACH PROGRAM DOES SERVE THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE DO THE FOOD BANK, UM, ON EVERY THURSDAY. AND WE DO KNOW THEY DO NEED EXTRA STORAGE BECAUSE WE HAVE REFRIGERATORS AND WE HAVE FOOD COMING IN FROM THE FOOD BANK, WHICH WE HAVE TO STORE ON OUR THE STORAGE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IS NOT ADEQUATE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE. SO WE CAN HAVE, UM, MORE STORAGE AT THE CHURCH AT THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. MCINTOSH TO GIVE YOU THE DETAILS OF WHAT IS PLANNED AT THE SITE. WHAT WE HAVE. I'M AARON MCINTOSH, ARCHITECT, AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE AN EXISTING NON-COMPLIANT CONDITION. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR ERROR VARIANCE FOR THE THE IMPERVIOUS SERVICE. THE EXCEPTION IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. NOW IT'S THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT THAT WE HAVE IS EXCESSIVE BECAUSE OF THE PARKING THAT WE HAVE. AND WE ARE ADDING AN ELEVATOR AND THAT THAT ADDS A LITTLE AREA. AND WE'RE ADDING THAT BASEMENT AREA, WHICH IS GOING TO BE WHICH IS GOING TO BE, UH, EXPAND INTO THE EXISTING NON EXISTENT AREA. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. 
          THE, THE, THE, THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A TOTAL OF 1994FT . UH, THE RAM STAKE. WE HAVE ALSO A RAMP THAT ALLOWS US TO GO TO THE BASEMENT FROM THE OUTSIDE, BECAUSE WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A SERVICE RAMP. ALSO, A PEDESTRIAN RAMP THAT TAKES US FROM THE PARKING AREA TO THE BASEMENT. TO THE BASEMENT AREA. 
          UM, YOU. CAN YOU GET THIS. 
          ON THIS ISSUE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THE 3D. 
          OKAY. 3D IMAGES? YES. OKAY. ANYWAY, 
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OKAY. THAT'S WONDERFUL. THAT'S THE FRONT OF THE. OKAY. GO AHEAD. 
          THAT'S THE EXISTING CHURCH THE WAY IT IS NOW. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS. THAT'S THE EXISTING. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE ADDING, LET'S SEE. WE ARE OKAY. AND THE ELEVATOR SHAFT AND THE RAMP AREA, THAT'S, THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE'RE ADDING FOR THE ELEVATOR, WHICH IS IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PARKING AREA. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RAMP GOES DOWN FROM THE PARKING. UM, GOOD TO GO TO THE. SIDE. 
          OKAY. THAT PROJECTION ABOVE GRADE IS WHERE THE BASEMENT WE ARE ADDING TO THE BASEMENT FOR THAT STORAGE AREA. AND THAT IS GOING TO COME OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPACE TO PUT IT. AND IT'S PRETTY LOW. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE EXISTING ENTRANCE AREA. WHERE THIS IS. 
          THIS RENDERING SHOWS WHERE THE ELEVATOR PROJECTS. 
          OUT. COULD YOU JUST POINT OUT WHERE THE ELEVATOR IS IN THE.. THAT'S THE SQUARE IN THE BACK. 
          YES. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE. OKAY. THAT'S ABOUT WHERE WE. 
          HAVE, UM. JUST ONE SMALL QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL DESIGN, ANY RATIONALE FOR DOING A FLAT ROOF VERSUS DOING SOMETHING THAT WAS PITCHED THAT WOULD MAYBE BE IN KEEPING WITH THE CURRENT SLOPE OF THE ROOF. 
          OR ELEVATOR SHAFT FOR THE ELEVATOR SHAFT, IT'S WE HAVE TO WE SHOULD HAVE A FLAT ROOF FOR SERVICING. AND ALSO HOW IT'S STRUCTURED. IF IT'S GOING TO BE A IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE. ANYWAY. 
          HAVE YOU INCORPORATED ANY ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE INTO YOUR PLANS? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE. IN TERMS OF. 
          UH. A DRY WELLS OR THINGS? I WOULD TIE TO MY EXISTING DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE THIS IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE TO. I'M SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          I'M GOING TO TIE IT TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO TIE MORE DRY WELLS TO THE EXISTING. 
          DRYWALL? YES. AND WHAT IS THE CAPACITY? ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T WORK THAT OUT AT THIS. 
          POINT. I WAS HOPING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SLOPE CLEARANCE, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, WETLAND CLEARANCE. SO AT THE TIME, I THOUGHT DRAINAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN APPLIED TO BILLING DEPARTMENT PROCEDURE. 
          SO BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS NOT INCREASING THE IMPERVIOUS, THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES HAS BEEN IN A CONDITION THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1971. UM, AS MR. MCINTOSH INDICATED. SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY REDUCING SLIGHTLY THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS ON THE SITE. UM, TO FACILITATE ADA ACCESSIBILITY. SO LOOKING AT IT AS A WHOLE, UM, THERE'S NO NEW IMPERVIOUS THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE STORMWATER RETENTION. SO WHY IS THE REQUEST TO GO FROM 29% COVERAGE TO 58%? BECAUSE THE IN 1971 WHEN IT WAS BUILT, THEY'RE REMOVING SOME PORTION. SO WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT IT'S LEGALIZING QUOTE UNQUOTE THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1971. WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY HAVE NOW? CURRENTLY. THE PERCENTAGE WE HAVE. 
          NOW. IT WAS 24%. 
          MAXIMUM. YEAH. 
          IT'S A I THINK IT'S 44 APPROXIMATELY 49,000, UH, 23 SQUARE FOOT COVERAGE. AND THEY'RE REDUCING THAT AMOUNT OF COVERAGE BY TO 48,000. JASON. 488 30. 
          SO IT WAS 49,000. YES. 
          49,000 023 IS EXISTING AND THEY'RE REDUCING IT. 
          TO. IT'S 488 30. 
          IF THE BUILDING IS BEING EXPANDED BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THE BASEMENT OUT, THEY'RE LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF GREENERY THERE. IF THEY'RE NOT TAKING AWAY PARKING SPACES, HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? THIS IS WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY. IT'S NOT EXPANDING INTO THE PARKING LOT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S EXPANDING INTO THE YARD. IT'S. 
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ACTUALLY. OH, WHAT ABOUT THIS? THAT'S AN AFFRONT. TO BUILD IT. 
          YEAH. THAT'S ALL. 
          THOSE ARE WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. 
          UM, AND I, MR. MCINTOSH, CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THOSE ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING RAMP. 
          YEAH, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE. THANK YOU. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. 
          YES. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO COME UP? ANYTHING TO SAY? ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY. OKAY. 
          OKAY. OH. DALBERG, WATSON. AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH AT 180 JUNIPER. AND I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT AS A COMMUNITY, IT'S A COMMUNITY ENDEAVOR, RIGHT? WE SEEK TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR MANY YEARS, AND WE ARE SEEING LIKE, 208 RESIDENTS COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO WELL, IT'S FOR MEMBERS. IT'S ALSO EMBEDDED IN THAT IS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY, RIGHT? WE WANT ALL OUR FACILITIES TO BE ACCESSIBLE NOT JUST TO THE YOUNG OF OUR GENERATION, BUT ALL OF OUR GENERATION. AND SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. IT'S A COMMUNITY EFFORT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. 
          MOVING ON. 2620 IS NOT ON. ADJOURNED. 
          IT'S BEEN ADJOURNED. I SAID THAT IN THE BEGINNING. SO WE GO NOW TO 26, 215. OR 14 O STREET, CLARKSDALE. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO SHARE. UH. SO I JUST WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT I KNOW THE APPLICANT AND I KNOW THE ARCHITECT. HI, EVERYBODY. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD MAKE. I STILL THINK I COULD MAKE AN IMPARTIAL DECISION, BUT I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT IN CASE ANYBODY OBJECTS TO ME HEARING AND RULING ON THIS CASE. SPEAK NOW. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRIS BRODA. I AM THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT WITH ME, ARE KEVIN AND SAMANTHA IVES, WHO ARE THE KEVIN AND SAMANTHA IVES? WHO ARE THE OWNERS? UM, IF I CAN GET A SHARE ON THE SCREEN HERE. SO. DO YOU HAVE AN HDMI CABLE? LET ME LOOK FOR. YOU. KNOW.. 
          THERE. KEYWORD SEARCH. 
          STILL RECEIVING. AT ANY RATE, WHILE I'M WAITING FOR THIS LINK, I CAN EXPLAIN THE PROJECT A BIT TO YOU. UM, MANY OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE MANOR WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW DIANE. IS. 
          YES. MANY OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH. 
          THE. MANOR WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IN 1895, THIS PROPERTY WHERE, UM, 14 OAK IS. AND LATER IN THE 
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1920S, THEY WERE SUBDIVIDED. THESE WERE FARMS THAT WERE SUBDIVIDED INTO 25 FOOT LOTS. AND PEOPLE COULD BUY ANY COMBINATION OF THE LOTS THAT THEY WANTED TO. SO A FAMILY IN 1924 BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY. NUMBER TEN, NUMBER 18, AND A FEW OTHER PROPERTIES ALONGSIDE IT, AND INCLUDING A COUPLE ON COLUMBIA AND BUILT A HOME. AND THEN THEY BUILT TWO HOMES ON THESE TWO LOTS FOR THEIR DAUGHTERS. THESE ARE 25 FOOT LOTS. THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL LEFT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME HOMES ON 25 FOOT LOTS. IF WE APPLIED TODAY'S ZONING CODE, WE COULD BUILD A HOUSE THAT WAS THREE FEET WIDE. SO THAT IS TRULY A TINY HOUSE. UM, AT THIS POINT, THE WIVES HAVE TWO CHILDREN, A 11.5 YEAR OLD SON AND A 14 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WHO SHARE A BEDROOM. THE HOUSE ORIGINALLY HAD ONE STORY. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I THINK IT WAS IN THE 1970S. A SECOND STORY WAS BUILT, AND THEN IT WAS FURTHER EXPANDED. IN 1998, THERE WAS A ZONING VARIATION. VARIANCE APPLIED FOR FOR SIDE SETBACKS. FOR THAT, THE UM, THANK. 
          YOU. LET ME JUST GET TO MY ZOOM. AND THE, UM, SO A SECOND BEDROOM WAS ADDED AT THE TIME, BUT NOW THE TWO CHILDREN SHARE A BEDROOM. IT'S BECOMING VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM AS THEY'RE BECOMING TEENAGERS TO SHARE A BEDROOM. AND THE FAMILY REALLY NEEDS TO EXPAND A BIT. THEY ACTUALLY SHARE THE DRIVEWAY WITH THE NEIGHBOR. THEY SHARE THE GARAGE WITH THE NEIGHBOR, WHICH YOU CANNOT GET A CAR IN AND OPEN THE DOORS. SO THAT'S THEIR STORAGE SPACE. LET ME JUST PUT IN THIS MEETING INFORMATION. AND THERE WE ARE, RIGHT. TERRIFIC. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THERE WE GO. NOW, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO. THERE. CAN EVERYONE SEE THIS? YES. 
          THERE WE GO. SO HERE'S THE HOUSE AS WE PROPOSE TO BUILD IT. UM, RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A ONE STORY PORCH HERE THAT HAD BEEN ENCLOSED AT SOME POINT IN TIME. IT WAS LEGALIZED IN 2014. 
          AND THERE'S A LITTLE PORTICO IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE EXISTING PHOTOS THAT I'VE SUBMITTED. UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TAKE DOWN THAT FRONT PORCH, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. IT DOESN'T HAVE A REALLY PROPER FOUNDATION TO IT. AND TAKE THAT DOWN, RECONSTRUCT IT, AND PUT A SECOND FLOOR ON TOP OF IT. AND IN ORDER TO KIND OF CUT DOWN THE FACADE OF THE HOUSE SO THAT IT'S NOT SO PROMINENT. AND TWO STORY, GIVEN WHAT THE OTHER HOUSES LOOK LIKE ON THE STREET, WE'RE PROPOSING ALSO TO PUT A PORCH ON THE FRONT, WHICH ALSO, I THINK MAKES IT NICER. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER HOUSE, THE TWIN SISTER HOUSE. UM, THIS IS REALLY SORT OF IN THE SHAPE OF WHAT THE WHAT THE ORIGINAL HOUSES WERE LIKE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE PARENTS HOUSE. AND THEN AT SOME POINT THIS PROPERTY WAS SOLD AND ALSO ANOTHER HOUSE WAS BUILT ON IT. BUT THEY ALL HAVE THESE ONE STORY KIND OF ENCLOSED PORCHES IN THE FRONT. IF YOU REALLY LOOK, THOUGH, AT LET'S SEE IF I CAN SHOW YOU. WE'RE ASKING ONE OF THE VARIANCES. OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SIDE VARIANCES BECAUSE OF WE'RE WIDER THAN THREE FEET. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE LINING UP THE FRONT PORCH IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS WHAT THEY'RE 
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CURRENTLY OR THE THE TWO STORY PORTION IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS WHAT IS THERE. NOW. WE'RE JUST NOW LOOKING TO PUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FORWARD, PUT A PORCH. SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED A FRONT YARD VARIANCE. WE ARE EXTENDING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 4.5FT FURTHER INTO THE FRONT YARD. AS FAR AS THE COVERAGE IS CONCERNED. WHILE IT LOOKS PRETTY EXTREME, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING FROM WHAT'S ALLOWED OF 47% TO OVER 75%. WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY ONLY DOING AN INCREASE, A SMALL INCREASE, LARGELY DUE TO THE FRONT PORCH OF ABOUT TWO 2.3%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I HAVE THE FIGURES, BUT YOU GET THE IDEA. IT'S IN THE BACK. WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING MUCH. WE CONSIDERED PUTTING THE ADDITION IN THE BACK SO WE WOULD AVOID THE FRONT. UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A CAR OUT OF THE WAY. SO THE OTHER PERSON COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR PART OF THE DRIVEWAY. UM, THEY'RE REALLY JUST THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT ANYTHING. THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT A CAR. THE PATIO IS VERY CLOSE. AN ADDITION WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. AND WE DO HAVE A LIMITED BUDGET ON THE PROJECT, AND IT WOULD HAVE MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE JUST IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DUG BY HAND BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET EQUIPMENT DOWN THE DRIVEWAY. THE HOUSES ARE ONLY NINE FEET APART, SO IT REALLY WOULD HAVE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO GO IN THE FRONT. WE'VE HAD TO APPEAR BEFORE, AS WE DID YESTERDAY AT THE PLANNING BOARD WORKING SESSION, BECAUSE THERE IS A POND OVER HERE ACROSS THE STREET AND THERE IS A LITTLE WATERCOURSE HERE ACROSS THE STREET. AND WE JUST SO HAPPEN TO CROSS SLIGHTLY INTO THE BUFFER ZONE. BUT THAT PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO GET A, UM, WETLAND APPROVAL. UM, THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVED TO MAKE IT A MINOR PROJECT, WHICH THEN KICKED IT OVER TO, UH, MATT BRITTON IN THE, UH, THE WETLANDS OFFICER, THAT HE WOULD HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THAT RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING OF THE PLANNING BOARD. SO AT THIS POINT, WE ARE. 
          LOOKING AT TRYING TO KEEP WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I'LL SHOW YOU. THIS ONE IS THE ONE AT 57. 
          LAKEVIEW HAS A NICE LITTLE FRONT PORCH, ALSO SMALL 25 FOOT LOT. UH, NO GARAGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T SHARE A DRIVEWAY. THIS ONE IS 157 COLUMBIA. 159 IS BLOCKED OUT HERE ON GOOGLE MAPS, BUT THEY ARE THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ALSO ARE 25 FOOT LOTS. IRONICALLY, I FOUND OUT IN DOING THE HISTORIC, UH, BOARD RESEARCH, THESE TWO LOTS WERE BOUGHT BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THE FIRST LOTS. UM, WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS, AND, UM, BUILT THE HOUSES. SO I'M WONDERING IF THEY MAYBE BUILT THESE HOUSES AS WELL. UM, WE ALSO HAVE ON HICKORY STREET. 
          THIS IS WHAT'S INTERESTING ON HICKORY STREET. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING ALSO FOR A FRONT YARD VARIANCE BECAUSE WE ARE COMING CLOSER TO THE STREET. HALF OF THE HOUSES HERE ON HICKORY STREET, ACTUALLY, MORE THAN THAT, UM, ARE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE STREET THAN WE'RE ASKING TO BE. THEY'RE NOT 25 FOOT LOTS. THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT THEY ARE VERY SMALL FRONT TO BACK. AND SO THIS HOUSE, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE THE PROPERTY LINE IS ACTUALLY INSIDE, NOT AT THE CURB. SO THIS HOUSE IS ONLY ABOUT 6 OR 7FT AWAY FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE. AND SEVERAL ALL THESE HOUSES ALONG THIS ROW, AS WELL AS THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET HERE AT NUMBER TEN, UM, NUMBER 15, THIS ONE ALSO IS ALSO PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THEY'RE ALL OVER THE SETBACK. IT'S AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A CHARMING OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE A LOT OF SWEET LITTLE HOUSES LIKE THIS, ALL WITH FRONT PORCHES. 
          AND ALL OF THEM REALLY UNDERSIZED. FOR WHAT THE ZONING CODE BECAME LATER ON. SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? WHEN YOU COMPARE YOUR PROPOSED, UH, SETBACK FROM THE FRONT STREET? YES. TO THE SISTER HOUSES ON THE STREET AND TO THE OTHER HOUSE ON THE STREET, HOW MUCH FURTHER WILL YOU BE PROTRUDING TOWARDS THE STREET STREET THAN THE OTHER HOUSES THAT NEIGHBOR IT. WHEN YOU SEE, ESPECIALLY THESE 
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TWO HOMES RIGHT NEXT DOOR? UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO DRIVE IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SIDE VIEW WE ARE LINING UP WITH THE FRONT PORCHES WITH THE ADDITION. SO THAT MEANS THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE PROTRUDING FORWARD IS OUR PROPOSED FRONT PORCH, WHICH IS ABOUT 4.5FT. AND THEN THERE'S OF COURSE THE STEPS, BECAUSE THE HOUSE SITS UP HIGH ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE NEED SOME STEPS. SO THE STEPS COME IN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. BUT WE ARE. WE ARE LOOKING TO BE ABOUT 4.5FT FORWARD WITH THE PORCH. AND THAT PUTS US AT ABOUT 12FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, A LITTLE OVER 12FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THE OTHERS ARE SET BACK A LITTLE FURTHER. 
          SO THERE ARE ABOUT 16FT. AND I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUE FINISH WITH A LINE OF QUESTIONING, BUT IS VERY MUCH THE SAME THAT I HAD. IT'S JUST INTERESTING IN YOUR RENDITION IS THE QUESTION THAT WOULD RAISE IN TERMS OF ITS ALIGNMENT, BECAUSE JUST LOOKING AT THE SHADOW STRUCTURE THAT YOU CREATED, AND OBVIOUSLY, I'M SURE THE SUN WASN'T ACTUALLY PLACED WHERE YOU WANTED IT INITIALLY, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO KIND OF CLOUD THE HOME NEXT TO IT. 
          AND IF. WELL. 
          WERE THE HOME TO THE RIGHT, JUST THE POINT OF CONTENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NORMALLY GETTING SUN THROUGH MY FRONT WINDOW AND NOW THIS HOME IS IN FRONT OF OUR HOME, DOES THAT NOW CAST A SHADOW GOING FORWARD? WELL, FIRST I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FACES EAST. AND SO THERE'S NO DIRECT. THE ONLY TIME THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR GETS DIRECT SUN IS IS REALLY ONLY A PORTION OF THE TIME DURING UM, DURING THE SUMMER. AND REALLY MOST OF THE DAY. THEIR VIEW, IF THEY DID HAVE A BAY WINDOW OR WINDOW TO BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT AND SEE UP THE STREET IF THIS HOUSE WAS FURTHER IN FRONT OF THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN REALLY SEE UP THE STREET ANYWAY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE.. 
          THE QUESTION IS, IS I LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF VARIANTS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED, AS I WOULD TYPICALLY SAY WITH ANYONE, UM, THE MORE THAT WE IN TERMS OF OUR TEST FACTORS, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE QUITE AWARE OF, THE THE MORE DE MINIMIS WE CAN MAKE IT IN TERMS OF THE REQUEST, IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR THAT TO MOVE. UNDERSTOOD. 
          UM, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS SO THAT I CAN JUGGLE IN MY MIND THE AREAS OF THINGS THAT BECAUSE EVEN LOOKING TO WRITE THIS UP, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE ABACUS AND DO ALL THE RATIOS. KEEP IN MIND THAT THE, UM, THE TWO STORY PART OF THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT ALREADY IS, UH, AN EXISTING ONE STORY PORTION. SO IF THE NEIGHBOR IS, THEY'RE NOT REALLY BEING BLOCKED BY THAT. UM, AND THE PORCH IS OPEN. SO ANY VIEW MIGHT BE THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE THE NEIGHBOR HERE. SO IS THAT I. SO, SO THE WOMAN WHO LIVES IN NUMBER TEN, WHICH IS THE HOUSE THAT YOU SEE HERE TO THE RIGHT AND SHARES THE LOT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? COULD YOU COME UP, PLEASE? AND, UH. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IS THAT SWABY, LIPTON? AND AS WAS STATED, I AM THE NEIGHBOR ADJACENT, UM, TO SAMANTHA AND KEVIN. WE, UM, WE ARE NEIGHBORS, AND WE ARE REALLY CLOSE. WE SHARE A COMMON DRIVEWAY, AND SO CLOSE THAT I CAN SEE INTO THEIR LIVING ROOM. 
          AND THEY CAN SEE INTO OURS. UH, SO THAT THAT'S HOW CLOSE WE ARE. THEY HAVE AT THE ONSET OF, UM, THIS PROJECT, THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED TO US WHAT THEIR PLANS WERE. AND WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF WHAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO. AND WE HOPE THAT TONIGHT, THIS BOARD IS IN SUPPORT OF THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER. NO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I KNEW THAT YOU WERE SITTING OVER THERE. I SAID, SHE'S GOING TO COME UP. 
          I'M SORRY FOR MY APPEARANCE. I JUST RAN OUT. 
          THANK YOU SO. MUCH. 
          UM. SO, UM, WE ALSO HAVE A SUPPORTING LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE WHO'S ALSO SAID THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO DO. UH, I EMAILED THAT TO YOU, KATHY, TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE THE PRINT OUT. WE HAVE A COPY. YES. THANK YOU. HERE WE GO. 
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AND FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE, I HAVE THEM HERE ON THE SCREEN TO. 
          THIS IS FROM. IS THAT. I CAN READ. 
          IT AND. YEP. AND THE, UH. THAT'S THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG ZONING BOARD. SAMANTHA AND KEVIN IVES, WHO LIVE NEXT AT 14 OAK STREET IN HARTSDALE ON MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. THEY'RE THE BEST NEIGHBORS I CAN IMAGINE. THEY WANT TO REBUILD THE FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE USING THE SAME FOOTPRINT. MY WIFE AND I FEEL THAT THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA FOR THEM, FOR THE HOUSE AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WELCOME THIS ALTERATION TO THEIR HOUSE. 
          SINCERELY. AND THEN IT'S JAMES, VERNA, AND SUSAN CASSIDY. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE, YVETTE SWABY LIPTON, TEN OAK STREET. AND SHE SAYS, I'M WRITING TO FORMALLY CONFIRM OUR FULL SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REMODELING PROJECT AT 14 OAK STREET, HARTSDALE, AS PRESENTED BY YOU TO MY IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, SAMANTHA AND KATIE AND KEVIN IVES. SAMANTHA AND KEVIN IVES AND I HAVE INFORMED MY FAMILY AND OF THE FULL SCOPE SCOPE OF THE WORK TO BE DONE IN THEIR HOME. ADDITIONALLY, THEY HAVE KEPT US UP TO DATE ON THE PROJECT AS NEEDED. WE HAVE NO DOUBT BUT THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION. WE ARE EXCITED FOR THEM AS THEY WORK TOWARDS IMPROVING THEIR HOME IN THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG. YOU ARE FREE TO CONTACT ME AND HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND SHE ASKED THE NUMBERS AND YOU CAN CONTACT THEM. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I WOULD I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, I TOO AM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS I LIVE. I CAN SEE THEIR HOUSE FROM MY FRONT PORCH ON, UH, JANE STREET. SO, UM, I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST. 
          NOT JUST IN BEING THEIR ARCHITECT, BUT, UH, IN KEEPING THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, THIS IS VERY CRITICAL FOR THEIR FAMILY BECAUSE THEY REALLY DESPERATELY NEED TO HAVE THIS THIRD BEDROOM. AND THEY'VE BEEN GREAT NEIGHBORS, AND WE ALL HAVE BLOCK PARTIES TOGETHER. AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW EACH OTHER THROUGH OUR DOGS. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HOUSES, THE OTHER A FEW HOUSES FOR SALE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. COME ON, JOIN US. IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE WE'VE ALL GOTTEN TO KNOW EACH OTHER THROUGH OUR DOGS. AND, UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S BONDED US TOGETHER. AND IT'S REALLY A TIGHT, VERY, UM, FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER PRETTY WELL. KNOW DEFINITELY KNOW ALL OUR DOGS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. I'D HATE TO SEE THEM HAVE TO MOVE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WITH THEIR KIDS. THANK YOU. 
          CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? SURE. DID YOU CONSIDER PUTTING THE STAIRWAY ON THE SIDE OF THE FRONT PORCH TO, UM, GO INTO THE DRIVEWAY? SO THAT WOULD SEEM CONVENIENT. AND ALSO IT WOULD NOT GO AS CLOSE TO THE FRONT OF THE STREET. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE THESE LITTLE YOU CAN SEE HERE, THESE LITTLE STAIRS. LET ME TRY TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT HERE. YOU CAN SEE THESE LITTLE STAIRS HERE. 
          SEE IT GOES DOWN. TO THE THEY COME DOWN TO THE DRIVEWAY. SO WHEN I SAY THAT WE ARE ON A TIGHT BUDGET, I REALLY MEAN IT. WE WE CAN'T. WE HAVE HAD TO TAKE CERTAIN THINGS OUT, UM, OF THE BUDGET, OUT OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT SIMPLY WAS NOT REALLY FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY. AND IF WE WERE TO ADD STAIRS HERE NOW, WE WOULD BE LANDING RIGHT ON TOP OF THESE STEPS. THE OTHER THING I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IS, UM, THIS IS WHERE THE UTILITIES COME INTO THE HOUSE. 
          SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IF WE START PUTTING STAIRS AND HAVING TO PUT FOOTINGS IN FOR POSTS AND SO ON. RIGHT THERE. 
          WE MIGHT BE SORT OF I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY DOING SO HERE FOR THE PORCH, BUT, UM, I JUST THINK THAT PUTTING THE STAIRS THERE PUTS YOU RIGHT ON TOP OF THESE OTHER TWO STEPS THAT COME DOWN, THERE'S NOTHING SORT OF GRACIOUS ABOUT COMING DOWN THERE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE WE HAVE CONSIDERED, UH, WE'VE CONSIDERED SMALLER PORTICOS AND OTHER THINGS ON THE FRONT, BUT, UM, I JUST FELT THAT THIS WE GOT TO REUSE THE SIDEWALK. WE 
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ALREADY HAVE. AND NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND BY THE WAY, JUST SO YOU, FOR YOUR EDIFICATION ABOUT THE SHADING. HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS WE GET, UH, AS WE GET LATER IN THE DAY. JUST PUT IT LATER IN THE DAY. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT. UH, YEAH. NIGHTTIME RIGHT HERE. LET'S GET TO DAWN. THERE'S DAWN. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE IT DOESN'T REALLY SHADOW THE HOUSE ALL THAT MUCH NEXT DOOR AS THE. 
          YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. SO IT REALLY I MISSPOKE BEFORE. 
          IT ACTUALLY, IT FACES NORTH. THAT'S WHERE THE FACE OF THE HOUSE FACES. IT FACES NORTH. SO REALLY, THE HOUSE ITSELF SHADOWS THAT HOUSE ALREADY WITH, UH, DAWN, YOU KNOW, FROM DAWN UP AND, UM. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY A BIG EFFECT ON IT FROM A LIGHTING STANDPOINT. HAD WE BUILT IN THE BACK, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF WE WERE BUILDING IN THE BACK, THAT WOULD CREATE A MUCH LARGER BULK IN THE BACK. THAT WOULD REALLY OBSCURE THE BACK OF OF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND THEN THAT LAST CASE WE HAVE IS 2622. SLOGANS ALL QUIT. YES, YES. 
          OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BEN ASHER. I'M THE. I'M THE ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT REPRESENTING MISS ZUKOWSKI ON THIS APPLICATION. NO. 
          NO. THIS GOOD? YEAH. OKAY. 
          HI. OKAY, GREAT. MY NAME IS BEN. I'M THE ARCHITECT REPRESENTING MR. ZUKOWSKI ON THIS APPLICATION. UH, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS A VARIANCE FOR TWO VARIANCES. 
          ACTUALLY, AREA VARIANCE FOR THE HEIGHT WHERE THE DETACHED STRUCTURE IS ALLOWED TO BE 12 FOOT HIGH. AND WE ARE REQUESTING 19.5, WHICH IS THE EXISTING HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. UH, WE ARE ALSO BECAUSE WE ARE INCREASING SLIGHTLY THE SIZE OF THE DORMER ON THE ATTIC LEVEL. THAT WILL INCREASE THE, THE ALSO THE NONCONFORMITY OF THE STRUCTURE. 
          UH, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ALL WE'RE DOING. BASICALLY, WE'RE STAYING WITHIN THE SAME HEIGHT. UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING DORMER RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT LARGER SO IT CAN SHOW, UH, GIVE US BETTER SPACE FOR THE SECOND, UH, THE UPPER LEVEL WHERE WE ARE DOING AN OFFICE SPACE FOR THE FOR THE FAMILY. 
          UH, CURRENTLY IS A TWO CAR GARAGE. WE ARE KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS. WE'RE JUST RESTORING IT, RENOVATING IT, AND KEEPING THE SAME SIDING MATERIAL ON THE. ALSO THE ROOFING MATERIAL. 
          EVERYTHING IS STAYING EXACTLY THE SAME. UH, WE MADE SOME WINDOW, UH, FENESTRATION CHANGES, BUT BASICALLY, THAT'S ABOUT IT. THE SHELL, THE SIZE, THE VOLUME IS ALL THE SAME. 
          HOW OLD IS THE HOUSE? WELL, IT'S HARD TO TELL. IT'S THE 1930S. UH, I THINK WE DID THE RESEARCH SINCE 1930, WHEN, UH, THE THE DETACHED GARAGE STRUCTURE, UH, SHOWS ON THE PROPERTY CARD. OKAY. 
          WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE? IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A BOTH AN ENTRANCE IN ONE DIRECTION AND AN ENTRANCE IN THE OTHER. 
          RIGHT. SO CURRENTLY, IT'S A TWO CAR GARAGE FACING THE DRIVEWAY. 
          BACKUP AREA BETWEEN THE HOUSE, THE MAIN HOUSE AND THE GARAGE. 
          THEN, BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE ON THE BOTTOM SIDE, YOU HAVE A STORAGE AREA. AND THEN IN THE ATTIC, A SET OF STAIRS INSIDE THE GARAGE THAT TAKES YOU UP TO THE UPPER LEVEL, THAT HAS A DORMER. AND THERE IS CURRENTLY WHAT USED TO BE PROBABLY A ROOM AND A BATHROOM THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING. SO WE ARE RESTORING ALL THAT, TURNING IT INTO SORT OF A CABANA FOR THE FOR THE FAMILY TO USE, AND ALSO AS A WORKSPACE, LIKE A, YOU KNOW, 
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OFFICE SPACE FOR UH, ALSO WHEN THE CLIENT IS WORKING AT HOME. 
          WAS THERE ANY SIGN THAT THIS WAS EVER USED AS A BARN? IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN USED AS A BARN AT SOME POINT, BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE THE PART OF THE HISTORIC RESEARCH WE DID THERE IS SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THAT THE BARN WAS DEMOLISHED IN 1947, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THAT SHOWED ON THE PART OF THE DOCUMENT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TRACE BACK TO THIS PROPERTY. AND WHAT WHAT'S THE AGE OF THE MAIN HOUSE? THE MAIN HOUSE IS BUILT IN 1900. THE EFFORT OF THE CLIENT HERE IS TO RESTORE THE THE STRUCTURE RENOVATED. IT'S IN STARTING TO BE A REALLY, UH, NEEDS GOOD MAINTENANCE AT THIS POINT. AND THEY WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THEY OWN THE STRUCTURE AND UTILIZE IT. BUT OTHERWISE, NO SITE WORK. NO, NO, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES, NO INCREASE IN LOT COVERAGE, NO INCREASE IN BUILDING FOOTPRINT. EVERYTHING IS EXACTLY THE SAME. SO IT'S JUST THE PROPOSED TWO DORMERS THAT WE ARE RENOVATING. 
          WHAT WOULD IT BE USED FOR? OH, THE FIRST FLOOR. THE MAIN LEVEL IS GOING TO STAY. A GARAGE, TWO CAR GARAGE. THE BOTTOM LEVEL WILL BE SORT OF A SITTING AREA CONNECTING TO THE POOL THAT'S EXIST ON THE PROPERTY, MORE LIKE A CABANA WAS. AND THEN THE UPPER LEVEL WILL BE USED AS A HOME OFFICE. 
          OKAY. THIS IS THE EXISTING. NOW WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE. DOES THIS COME UNDER THE, UH, THE RULES OF AN AUXILIARY DWELLING UNIT? IT'S A DETACHED STRUCTURE. NO, IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. IT'S NOT PROPOSED WITH A KITCHEN OR LIVING QUARTERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, YEAH, NO LIVING. QUARTERS IN THE BACK. 
          I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID THERE'S A BATHROOM. 
          THERE IS A BATHROOM. BUT THAT WAS ALREADY THERE. 
          WELL, THERE IS A KITCHEN. OUT OF. 
          THE PLAN, SO THERE'S. NO ONE. 
          OF THE DEFINITIONS FOR ADUS, UH, COOKING APPLIANCES. AND THERE'S NO COOKING APPLIANCE. IN HERE. 
          WE HAVE A SINK. JUST A SINK. A GABBAR SINGH. BUT NO COOKING. 
          THAT'S WE. WE'RE VERY CLEAR ON THAT. 
          SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE YOU'RE PUTTING A DORMER ON THE SECOND FLOOR. IS, IS IS THE EXTENT OF THE, UH, DORMER? YES, YES. TWO. 
          TWO DOOR, TWO DORMER. THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE IN FACING, UH, THE BACK OF THAT STRUCTURE AND WE'RE ADDING ONE ON THE FRONT FACING THE HOUSE. AGAIN, THE THE STRUCTURE IS NOT VISIBLE FROM OLD ARMY. IT'S ONLY VISIBLE FROM, UM, FROM HENRY STREET. A SIDE VIEW OF IT. IT'S BEHIND THE HOUSE AND TECHNICALLY FROM THE ENTRANCE. I'VE BEEN ADMIRING THIS STRUCTURE MY WHOLE LIFE. OH, REALLY? WELL. BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A VERY INTERESTING STRUCTURE, AND IT READS AS IF IT'S A VIRTUALLY A SEPARATE HOUSE BACK THERE. IT'S SO FAR FROM ANYTHING. 
          ELSE. YEAH. AND THE THE OWNERS ARE REALLY TRYING THEIR BEST TO RESTORE IT AND KEEP IT AS A VALUABLE STRUCTURE THAT THEY CAN ENJOY. YEAH. RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST STORAGE BECAUSE OF IT NEEDS EVERYTHING INSIDE. YEAH. 
          I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS AND I MISSED IT IS WHAT IS THE EXISTING HEIGHT TODAY? IT'S 19.5. SO IT'S THE SAME. SAME. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? UH. GOOD EVENING. UH, I AM. DYLAN PINE. UH, I LIVE AT 193 OLD ARMY ROAD. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT ONLY IN MY CAPACITY AS THE IMMEDIATE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. UH, TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE NEIGHBORS WITH TRACY FOR CLOSE TO THREE YEARS NOW. UH, TRACY IS A IS A GREAT NEIGHBOR. UM, I AM FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT, UH, THE HEIGHT VARIANCE IS ONLY 
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LEGALIZING THE EXISTING HEIGHT, THERE WON'T BE ANY IMPACT TO ME OR THE OTHER NEIGHBORS. UM, IN TERMS OF VISUAL, VISUAL IMPACT. 
          UM, THE ONE DORMER, YOU KNOW, WILL HAVE NO IMPACT TO ME AS THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR, AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WILL HAVE ANY IMPACTS TO TO OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS. UH, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS STRUCTURE, BOTH AS AS TRACY, AS A NEIGHBOR, AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE LIVED. LIVED IN THE IN THE PROPERTY BEFORE. UM, THE PROPERTY IS OR THE STRUCTURE IS IN A CHALLENGING STATE. AND I THINK THIS, THIS RENOVATION WILL WILL GIVE IT ANOTHER LIFE AND GIVE IT AN EXTENDED LIFE. 
          UM, I TOO HAVE ADMIRED THE STRUCTURE MY MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT TRACY IS NOW THE OWNER OF IT AND WILL ENSURE THAT THE STRUCTURE IS IS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOR FOR YEARS TO COME. SO THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? IS THAT TRACY? HI. 
          I'M TRACY. HI. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COME UP? HOW MUCH ACREAGE IS THIS HOUSE. ON? I THINK IN OUR 20. I THINK. 
          IT'S ALMOST AN ACRE. IT'S THE LAST ONE. 
          I'M TRACY ZUKOWSKI, THE OWNER OF 195 OLD ARMY ROAD. 
          0.92 ACRES. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          VERY MUCH. GOOD NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 
          26. YEAH. 
          27. CASE 28. CASE 29. 
          CASE 30. OH, WE GOT THREE. 
          YEP. 909. 
          WE COULD HAVE. UM. NO, IT'S NOT. NO, IT'S NOT. 
          NO, I MEANT. IT'S JUST THE. YES. IS. NO. YOU'RE A MAN. OKAY. TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I WANT TO SIT HERE. 
          I'M GONNA GET, LIKE, OKAY. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 2630. ARE WE STARTING. 
          WITH 26? 13. THAT'S THE THE POOL. 
          THE POOL, THE POOL. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE, BASED ON IT BEING AN INCREDIBLY SMALL ASK WITH VIRTUALLY NO IMPACT ON ANY NEIGHBORS OR ANY IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT WE GRANT IT. 
          I AGREE. I'M A YAY ON THAT. 
          YEAH. ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY LAST MONTH. I THINK YOU GUYS ASKED THEM TO REDUCE IT. AND THEY DID. YES. 
          FOLLOWING YOUR SUGGESTIONS. SO, WILLIAM I AGREE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AS I SAID. 
          YAY. OH WAIT. 413 IS A YAY. WE'RE ALL UNANIMOUS. SO IT'S A MATTER OF WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. 
          ON THAT. DO WE HAVE THEM WRITTEN UP? THEN YOU HAVE THE SHEET THAT YOU FILL OUT. 
          I CAN TAKE THAT ONE. WE CAN JUST GO RIGHT DOWN. OKAY. WHITE PLAINS BOWL. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A. 
          I. I JUST I JUST THINK THAT. YAY FOR EVERYBODY. THE WAY IN WHICH THEY. WELL, THE WAY IN WHICH THEY WERE PRESENTED, THE FACT THAT THIS IS ALWAYS, UH, WELL, IT WILL BE. THAT'S. 
          I WOULD SAY I'M. IN DISAGREEMENT AS WELL. JUST FORM OVER FUNCTION. YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WHEN WE DO MAKE A VARIANCE, IT'S FOR A SPECIFIC REASON. AND EVEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE AND WHAT HAS BEEN THERE IN THE PAST. IT'S IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO BE CONFORMING. 
          SO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE VOTE NOW. NAY. 
          NAY. AND YOU'RE NAY. I'M A NATIVE. OKAY. OH, NO. 
          ME TOO. I MEAN, I WISH THEY HAD. 
          BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. I WOULD HAVE I. 
          WOULD HAVE BEEN A YAY IF, IF AND I'M OKAY IF WE WANT TO GO BACK AND ASK THEM IF THEY HAD STARTED THE SMALLEST LETTER AT COMPLIANCE AND BUILT IT UP. SO IT WAS A VERY MINIMAL ASK, BUT THERE WAS NO. SO IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, OKAY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I WOULD I WOULD SAY NAY TO HOW IT IS NOW. WELL, 
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ALSO THE FACT THAT, UM. THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT WHAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE THAT. WELL, YEAH. SO I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT ON LINE OF THE LOGO, AND PART OF THE READABILITY ISSUE IS BECAUSE OF THAT OUTLINE. AND THEY HAVE A PURE RED LOGO WITHOUT THE OUTLINE, WHICH IS FAR MORE READABLE, LIKE PROBABLY FROM A DISTANCE, BUT THAT'S UP TO THEM WHAT THEY USE. THAT'S NOT UP. TO US. 
          THAT PART DIDN'T BOTHER US MUCH, BUT I IF IF THE BOARD SAW FIT TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED. TO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO DO WE WANT TO DO A REVISE AND RESUBMIT OR WHAT'S THE. 
          YEAH WE GIVE THEM THAT OPTION. GIVE THEM THAT OPTION. 
          OKAY I HAVE. A QUESTION THOUGH. WHEN WE DO REVISE WE SUBMIT. WE DON'T TELL THEM WHAT WE WOULD ACCEPT. 
          RIGHT. OR DO WE. 
          THIS IS PUBLIC. EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY RIGHT NOW CAN BE VIEWED BY ANYBODY. OKAY. 
          BUT SO AND USUALLY. I THINK. 
          WE'RE MAKING A SUGGESTION. YEAH. WE'RE MAKING. 
          A SUGGESTION. SUGGESTION. 
          YEAH. BECAUSE WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WANT IS FAR OVER. WHAT THE ORDER ORDER ORDERING OR WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR AUDIENCE. I I'M TIRED, BUT, UM. THE RULE. 
          OF THUMB, HOWARD, IS. YES. YOU'RE ASKING THE APPLICANT. 
          TO. UM. 
          GO AS. LOW AS THEY REALLY. 
          CAN. UM, SO, YOU DON'T SPECIFY HOW. 
          IF YOU GET TO THIS, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. YOU ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET AS CLOSE TO CONFORMANCE AS POSSIBLE, AND YOU ALLOW THEM TO SPACE TO, YOU KNOW, JUDGE, JUDGE THEIR BENEFIT VERSUS, UM, YOU. KNOW, YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW, AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES A PING PONG GAME, BUT OKAY. WELL THAT THAT'S WHY I, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER GONE BEYOND TWO, BUT. 
          NO. ON SIGNAGE. 
          ON SIGNAGE. I DON'T MAYBE I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU I DON'T THINK YOU WERE ON THE BOARD ON THE, ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME. OKAY. IT WAS MANY YEARS AGO. IT WAS THE FIRST. IT WAS THE FIRST ONE. AND I THINK WE HAD LIKE THREE NEW. PEOPLE. 
          AND IT WAS, OH, WE'LL GIVE IT TO THEM. AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WHEN WE CAME BACK, THEY SAID. I MEAN, OKAY, ARE YOU CLEAR. 
          ON THAT ONE? THIS IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE. TWO. YEAH. I MEAN, I. 
          THINK ASK THEM TO MINIMIZE THE ASK, RIGHT. IF THEY CALL YOU IN QUESTION, YOU IT'S LIKE START AT COMPLIANCE. 
          OKAY. WELL OKAY. IT HAD TO BE GOOD COMPLIANCE. YES. OKAY. SO WE'RE CLEAR THERE. 
          YES. OKAY. NEXT. 
          OKAY. SO WHAT IS THIS? REVISE AND RESUBMIT. YES. OKAY. 
          YES. NO, IT'S IT'S IT. IT GOES TO, UM, THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER. OKAY. 
          OKAY. OKAY, NOW WE'RE AT THE HOUSE THAT'S NOT THERE. WHAT? THE GARAGE. WELL, I WOULD SAY ON THE RECORD, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE LOCATION OF THE POOL. BASED ON PHOTOGRAPHY OF THE LANDSCAPE. YEP. HOWEVER, I THINK THERE IS STILL ROOM. THIS IS NOT BUILT YET TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE LESS THAN 40 FOOT IN THE DRIVEWAY. 
          TOTALLY. TOTALLY AGREE. 
          TOTALLY AGREE. BUT. THE ARCHITECT, AMONGST THE OTHER COMMENTS. IN THE. 
          INFLAMMATORY COMMENTS, UH, IT SAY THAT THEY COULD PERFORM. 
          YES. THEY'VE CONFIRMED THAT THEY COULD CONFORM WITHOUT REQUIRING. 
          THAT THEY'RE CORRECT. IS THAT ACCURATE? OH, YES. HE WAS GOING TO PUT SOME KIND OF LITTLE GARDEN THING AND THAT WOULD BREAK IT UP. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. YES. 
          YEP. BASED ON WHAT HE SAID, THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY ACROSS THE THREE CAR GARAGE IS WHAT ACTUALLY PUT THEM TEN FOOT OVER. YEAH. AND IF THEY WERE TO I JUST DID A LITTLE MATH ON MY RENDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SHAVED OFF A PORTION CLOSEST TO THE WALL STRUCTURE, THEY WOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO STILL GET INTO THE DRIVEWAY. 
          JUST TO. CLARIFY, THERE WAS NEVER A DISCUSSION WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OF INSTALLING SOME TYPE OF CIRCULAR. WE DID HAVE SOMEONE WHO DID THAT ONCE BEFORE, AND THEY WANTED TO PUT THE FOUNTAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DRIVEWAY. YES. 
          YEAH. YEAH, SO DO WE. MY QUESTION ON THIS ONE IS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO CONFORM. SHOULD WE SEPARATE THEM OUT AND GET THE POOL OUT OF THE WAY? OR IF WE ALL AGREE. ON THAT, EITHER GRANT. OR DENY, YOU COULD DENY BOTH. YOU CAN GRANT ONE AND THE OTHER AND NOT THE OTHER, AND DENY THE OTHER. OR YOU CAN ADJOURN IT ENTIRELY FOR THEM TO COME BACK. CAN WE SAY YES ON ONE AND ADJOURN THE OTHER? CAN WE GRANT THE POOL AND 
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REVISE AND SUBMIT ON THE.. BECAUSE THEY WERE BOTH SLATED. 
          TO GET A DRY ONE. I WOULDN'T. OKAY. MY RECOMMENDATION IS. 
          TO KEEP OKAY TOGETHER. OKAY. 
          YEAH. JUST TRYING TO CLEAR YOUR CALENDAR. 
          GRANT ONE AND DENY THE OTHER. OKAY. BUT IF WE DENY. 
          THAT, DOESN'T. HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE FULL. 
          WEIGHT WIN, HE'D BE ABLE TO DO THE POOL, NOT THE DRIVEWAY. 
          WELL, NOT FROM WHAT HE WAS SAYING. HE HAD THINGS THAT THEY'RE STILL JUST TRYING TO CLEAR OUR CALENDAR IF WE CAN. 
          I THINK, UM, ULTIMATELY. THAT'S FINE DUE TO THE INPUT. IF THERE'S A REVISED PLAN, COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT REVISED PLAN AND PROBABLY VALUE TO THAT AND SEE IF THEY CAN. ADVISE THAT. OKAY. 
          BASED UPON WHAT OCCURRED HERE. YES. 
          YEAH. SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? UH. 
          ADJOURN. DO YOU WANT. AND MAKE SURE THE TOWN SENDS OUT THE LETTERS. OKAY. 
          WELL. THEY. 
          SAID NO, THEY DID. THEY GOT THEM. THEY SAID THEY. 
          GOT THEM. I MEAN, HOW ELSE. DID THEY NORMALLY THOSE STAMPS. 
          THAT HE SENDS THEM. THEY GOT THEM FIVE DAYS. THEY SAID THEY GOT FIVE DAYS AGO, BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW. 
          WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE IN TAKING THE, YOU KNOW, SPLITTING IT UP. 
          I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST TELL THEM. WHAT. YEAH. TO SHOW US WHAT THEY WANT. WE WERE GOING TO ADJOURN IT SO WE CAN SEE IT. RIGHT. AND THE POOL IS GOING TO BE WHERE THE POOL IS GOING TO BE. YEAH. OKAY. RIGHT. LET ME KNOW WHICH LETTER TO SEND OUT. THAT SOUNDS FINE. YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT. 
          OKAY. AND I'M SURE HE'S LISTENING. OKAY. SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF. YES. YOU GOT ME. UM, I. 
          ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THIS. ONE WITH. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT BECAUSE I'M FOR THIS, BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEW ZONING RULES, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT IN ABOUT LIGHTING IN SCHOOLYARDS AND THE HEIGHT TO CHANGE IT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME FOR VARIANCES, SINCE IT SEEMS EVERYBODY'S GOING TO 70FT. SEVEN, 70, 70FT. RIGHT. YEAH. 
          YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION TO CONSIDER IT. THAT'S NOT. UP TO US. IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. OKAY. UM, THESE THESE PROJECTS ARE SO UNIQUE. UM, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT AS STAFF TO, YOU KNOW, SAY 70FT SHOULD BE THE NORM BECAUSE THERE MAY BE INSTANCES WHERE, UM, 60FT COULD WORK, AND THEN THEY MAY GO TO 70 JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE REASONS. YOU KNOW, WE ALLOW SEVEN, BUT ALSO IF IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN IT'S DIFFERENT. WELL, THEY'RE ALL IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WELL, THIS IS NOT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE IT. YES, IT'S IT'S A DISCRETE CAMPUS. 
          THERE'S NOTHING AROUND. THERE'S NO WOOD ROAD. AND AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE, ALL I SAW WAS, UH, HOUSING AND OTHER PARTS OF THIS CAMPUS. I THINK SO, JUST TO BUILD ON THE INITIAL QUESTION FROM DIANE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF JUST, UM, INCREASING THE HIGH INSTITUTIONS OF LIGHTS TO 50FT JUST SO THAT THEY DON'T NEED A LARGER MAGNITUDE OF VARIANCE BECAUSE IT IS A BALANCING ACT. I THINK YOU'RE RECOGNIZING THAT INVARIABLY, THESE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE LARGE VARIANCES. 
          IT'S THE OTHER FACTORS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON. YEAH. 
          YEAH. YEAH. SO I'LL. WRITE IT UP. IF IF IT'S A YES I'LL WRITE. IT UP. 
          YES. EVERYBODY OR DO OR. 
          LIGHTING AND SCOREBOARD. YES. OKAY. I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          YES. UNLESS WE WANT ED'S HANDIWORK TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS, UM, THAT THIS IS CLEAR AND SUCCINCT IN TERMS OF THE ADA COMPLIANCE AND THE OTHER VARIANCES. WHY WE'RE MAKING THIS PARTICULAR EXCEPTION, JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE TIGHTER. 
          I THINK, UM, THE TESTIMONY WAS. SUFFICIENT. 
          UH, VERY COMPREHENSIVE. AND WE CAN CITE THE, UM, MITIGATING FACTORS SUCH AS THE SCIENTIFIC TESTIMONY ABOUT THE HEIGHT, THE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE BUFFER THAT'S BETWEEN THE NEAREST RESIDENTS AS WELL T MENTIONED, THE TREE COVER. AND IT'S THERE. AND, UM, BECAUSE THE ZONING BOARD, THE LEAD AGENCY FOR SEEKER, WILL ALSO MENTION THOSE THINGS AS PART OF THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION. SO, UM, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU IN THE STANDARD PROCEDURE IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT. I KNOW THE SCHOOL IS VERY SENSITIVE TO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AND THIS CONSTRUCTION SEASON, THEY DO HAVE ASPIRATIONS TO BUILD THIS YEAR. SO I KNOW FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE THEY WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE BOARD ACTING TONIGHT. 
          NOT A PROBLEM. YEAH. SO IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          AND YES. OKAY OKAY. GO. OKAY. THE CHURCH? YEP. I USED TO LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE CHURCH. I'M 
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OKAY WITH THIS. YEAH. I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'RE REALLY NOT INCREASING THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH STAYING THE SAME OR BEING REDUCED SLIGHTLY. AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS ALL OR MOST OF IT IS BEING DONE FOR, UH, HANDICAP, UH, ACCESS. I THINK IT'S AN EASY YES. YEAH. I'M OKAY. I'M IN FAVOR. 
          IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY ON THE, UH, ALMOST I DON'T KNOW, YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK, SO WE'RE UNANIMOUS ON RIGHT TO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED. YOU CAN COME FROM HARTSVILLE. WHERE YOU CAN COME FROM. DO YOU WANT TO PASS THAT DOWN? YEP. OKAY. NEXT HOUSE. 
          OH. IS THIS. WHO AM I GIVING THIS TO YOU? I GUESS GOING DOWN THE LINE. OKAY, FINE. 
          UNLESS WILLIAM WANTS IT. GO GIVE IT TO HIM, THEN. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE. WE WASN'T HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF TIMES. 
          I HAVE TO TAKE KIDS BACK. TO SCHOOL. I'M HAPPY TO. 
          DO IT. YOU GOT THAT ONE? I TOOK ONE. I WASN'T HERE LAST MONTH. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. 
          SHOULDN'T MATTER. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE FINE. I'LL BE FINE. 
          UH, WHERE ARE WE? 21 FOR OAK STREET. 
          WHO'S DOING OAK STREET? WELL, I HAVE TO PUT ON THE RECORD. UM. UH, THAT, UH, CHRISTINE THE PROFESSIONAL, UH, DID WORK FOR ME ABOUT 13 YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE REMEMBERS ME, BUT. THAT'S WHY. YEAH, THAT'S WHY I THEY WE WERE ON THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD TOGETHER. ALL ALL THREE OF US, CHRISTINE AND SAMANTHA AND MYSELF. SO I KNOW THEM PRETTY WELL. AS LONG AS YOU CAN BE IMPARTIAL. WELL. 
          NO PROBLEM. YEAH, YOU JUST CLOSE IT. 
          YOU WANT TO WRITE A BOOK? TREAT. I'M SORRY. YOU WANT TO WRITE UP OAK STREET? NOT REALLY. 
          THIS IS. ARE WE? HAVE WE VOTED? HAVE WE VOTED ON IT YET? NO. NO. 
          AND IF BOTH OF YOU WILL CHOOSE. YEAH. OR WHATEVER. 
          NO I'M NOT. I DIDN'T RECUSE, I DISCLOSED, AND THEY WERE FINE. I'M JUST SAYING. 
          OKAY, DON'T SAY ANY MORE. YEAH. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T. OKAY. 
          SO WHAT ARE. WE ON? WE'RE ON 14 OAK STREET. 
          UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED? SO I WILL SAY, AT FIRST I WAS CONCERNED WITH HOW MANY VARIANCES THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. BUT THEN WHEN SHE EXPLAINED THE HOUSE, HOW IT WAS BUILT, AND I LOOKED AT, UM, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO THE NEW STRUCTURE, I BECAME LESS CONCERNED. WERE YOU NOT? AND I WAS WE HAD THE, UH, WOMAN THAT THEY HAD THE SAME SITUATION. HERS HAD BEEN. UH, HAD A LOT MORE DONE TO IT. BUT, UM, THEY HAD TO BOTH USE THE SAME DRIVEWAY AND THESE ARE THESE LITTLE HOUSES. WE HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE. YEAH, NO, I DO YEAH. YEAH. SO BASED ON THAT AND THE THE FACT THAT THEY REDUCED FROM THE EXISTING TO THE PROPOSED WHERE THEY COULD, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY COULD DO TO BE HONEST, EXCEPT SELL THE HOUSE AND MOVE AWAY. YEAH. I HAD, I HAD THE SAME EXACT INITIAL I WAS INITIALLY AGAINST THIS. YEAH. I DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE PROTRUDING INTO THE STREET MORE. I WAS AFRAID IT WAS BEING OVERBUILT, BUT THE PRESENTATION ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. YEAH. AND AND THE TWO. PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE HAD NO. YEAH. THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD PROTRUDES INTO THE STREET. IT'S A CHARMING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I WOULD HATE TO DO ANYTHING TO RUIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT. 
          YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. I THINK SHE DID A GOOD JOB OF HAVING IT FIT WITHIN IT. BETTER TO FIX IT SO YOU CAN USE IT AS A FAMILY THAN TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU GOT TO, YOU KNOW, ROOMS IN IT. AND SOMEBODY SAYS, OKAY, I'LL JUST GO OUT, I'M GOING TO BUY IT AND, YOU KNOW, RENT IT OUT. 
          YEAH. I NEVER REALIZED HOW SMALL. I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE HOUSE, SO I NEVER REALIZED HOW SMALL IT WAS. WILLIAM, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING. ARE YOU A YAY OR NAY OR WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I TOLD THE NEXT APPLICANT THAT WE WERE MOVING THE STRUCTURE TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE COULD PUT THIS ONE IN A TRAILER AND MOVE THIS ONE TO. OKAY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS 
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PROPERTY. OKAY. 
          WHAT IS IT? TWO TEENAGE KIDS SHARING. 
          A ROOM. YEAH. 
          YES, YES, YES. THAT COULD BE DAMAGING THROUGHOUT LIFE. 
          YEAH, I. AM, I AM EXHIBIT A. 
          YOU GUYS ARE LOOSE TONIGHT. OKAY, SO WHO'S GONNA WRITE THIS ONE UP? SO IS. 
          THIS UNANIMOUS? YES. IS UNANIMOUS ALSO. 
          OH, WE. YEAH. NO, WE WE SHOULD HAVE MAILED IT IN. 
          OKAY. WHERE ARE WE? HE WAS GOOD, THOUGH. INITIALLY. OKAY. HE WAS. 
          WE'RE PASSING THIS DOWN. WE'RE NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE, UM. 
          ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT ONE? GOT 17,000 VARIANCES ON IT. 
          OKAY. WHAT? I'M GONNA END UP WITH TWO BECAUSE I'M NEXT AGAIN. IF WE VOTE YAY! ON THE NEXT ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO FOR THE NEXT ONE, UM, GOD. 
          THERE'S A LOT, A LOT OF STUFF YOU HAVE TO. 
          WELL, IT'S IT'S, AGAIN, A THING. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE. I WAS NOT PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH IT. AND ONCE I HEARD ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. SO YOU GOTTA GO. 
          WAIT A MINUTE. SO WE ON ZUKOFSKY ARE THE.. 
          YES, WE'RE ON ZUKOFSKY. I THINK WE ALL VOTED YAY. 
          YEAH YEAH YEAH. OH ON ZULAWSKI. 
          WE'RE ON THE TREES. ARE YOU TRACY GARAGE OR WHATEVER. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S SAYING THAT THE AREA VARIANCE IS, UM, THE HEIGHT IS FROM 12 TO 19.5, IT IS CURRENTLY 19.5. AND, UM, IT'S BEEN THERE LOOKING BEAUTIFUL FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          NO, IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 160. YEAH. UM, AND, AND SO THAT THEY WANT IT, THEY WANT TO PUT SOME DORMERS THERE THAT. 
          ARE, IT'S IN BAD CONDITION. RIGHT. SO AGAIN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. I SAY YES. OKAY. 
          I AGREE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON WRITING IT UP THOUGH, FRED. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE BUT IT HAS ON THE PLANS THAT THERE'S A KITCHENETTE ON THE PLANS. IT HAS A NOTE SOMEWHERE THAT IT SAYS THAT THERE'LL BE NO KITCHENETTE. DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE FINDINGS? BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS PER THE PLANS. IT'S AS PER. RIGHT. THERE. YEAH. 
          THEY'VE REMOVED. THEY REMOVED IT FROM THE LAYOUT PLAN, BUT THEY LEFT IT IN THE ELEVATION. YEAH. SO THAT I THINK THAT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT. BUT I WOULD INCLUDE IT. 
          YEAH. JUST WELL YEAH. BUT WE WOULD HAVE GIVEN APPROVAL PER THE PLANS, WHICH HAS A KITCHENETTE ON IT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO CALL THAT OUT. PLANS. 
          SOUNDS YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE. THE, THE. YEAH. THE ELEVATION DETAIL. UM, JUST HAD THE WORD KITCHENETTE ON IT. IT SEEMED LIKE AN OVERSIGHT FROM THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL. 
          YOU SAID IT WAS JUST A. SINK. WE'LL DEAL WITH IT. 
          DON'T WORRY. DON'T HAVE TO PUT A NOTE ON IT. 
          WE'LL DO IT. I'LL DO. 
          OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. 
          CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT. OKAY. SO WE'RE ALL A YAY YAY. 
          OKAY. I WANT. 
          TO GO BACK TO THINK ABOUT IT. OH. 
          I WANT YOU. TO JUST. ENLIGHTEN ME. WHY? PAGE NUMBER 4261719. 2017. 
          THE BRANDING. FOR WHAT. 
          IS. THE REASON FOR ADJOURNING? WE'RE HOPING THAT, UH. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM TOGETHER. 
          NO, NO, WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY COME BACK AND DON'T ASK FOR A FOR A 40 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY. WELL, YOU WOULD YOU ACTUALLY WERE THE ONE THAT SAID THEY HE ACTUALLY SAID I COULD MAKE IT CONFORM. YEAH. HE BROUGHT IT UP. 
          TO THE CROWN FOR DENYING I MEAN FOR ASKING THEM TO COME BACK AND REPEAT PERFORMANCE. I'M HAPPY TO DENY ONE AND GIVE GRANT THE OTHER ONE. IT DOES SEEM CUSTOMARY TO THE FIRST TIME TO ASK THEM IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING LESS. BUT. 
          A LOT SMALLER THAN. YOU DENY. HE CAN'T COME BACK FOR HOW LONG? I THOUGHT THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          EVEN APPEALING. I BELIEVE IT'S 18 MONTHS FOR SIMILAR OR SAME RELIEF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          WELL, IF YOU'RE SATISFIED THAT THEY CAN'T CONFORM, THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF THEY CAN CONFORM, ONE OF THE FIVE FACTORS IS THAT THERE'S NO FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE. THEY'VE ALREADY SAID HE GAVE US AN ALTERNATIVE. RIGHT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. 
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WITH WHAT? YEAH. DENYING THE DRIVEWAY AND. 
          THEY'LL NEVER HAVE A PARTY. WELL, NO, IT'S ONLY THE SPACE THAT THE. IT'S ONLY A SPACE AT THE TOP. IT'S NOT THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY LIKE, YOU KNOW. IT'S A LONG DRIVEWAY GOING UP A HILL. I MEAN, LET'S NOT RETHINK IT. 
          LET'S JUST ADJOURN TO THEM. YEAH. 
          YEAH. GARRETT GARRETT WANTED PEOPLE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON IT AGAIN. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. I MEAN, I JUST IT JUST SEEMS ROUTINE THAT, UM, THE BOARD WILL GIVE AN APPLICANT ONE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE. AND AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK. YEAH. 
          I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU CAN'T DENY IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD FEELS, THAT'S FINE, BUT I. I'LL TAKE THE LAST ONE IF I'M GOING TO TAKE THE LAST ONE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE ONE UP. 
          NO, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. NO THEY'RE NOT YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WRITE IT UP. YOU'RE JUST GONNA YOU GUYS WILL TAKE CARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO KITCHENETTE. I'M STILL GOING TO WRITE IT UP. YES. 
          OH, SHE SAID IT WAS THE SINK. THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE. 
          NO, IT SAYS KITCHENETTE. NO, BUT WHEN SHE. WHEN THEY SAID THAT, SHE SAID NO, IT'S JUST A SINK. THERE. 
          WELL THEY CHANGE IT ON ONE SET OF PLANS BUT THEY DIDN'T ON THE OTHER. I DON'T CARE WHAT'S ON THE RECORD IS ON THE RECORD. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S. SO THAT'S THAT WAS. THAT'S WHY I DON'T NEED TO PUT IT IN THE FINDINGS. 
          THEY'LL JUST MAKE SURE THEY DON'T PUT A KITCHENETTE IN WHEN THEY DO THE INSPECTIONS. OKAY, I GET IT. I KNOW. OKAY OKAY, SO I WILL, I WILL, I WILL TAKE IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE IT. 
          OKAY OKAY. I USUALLY GET THEM LIKE MONDAY OR TUESDAY TO YOU. 
          OKAY. EVERYBODY FINISHES DOING. 
          THIS THING. OKAY. WE'RE GOING BACK ON THE RECORD. 
          WELL, IF EVERYBODY'S. EVERYBODY'S READY READY. 
          RIGHT. I'M NOT WE'RE NOT WRITING THEM UP. WE'RE. YEAH. 
          WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THAT. UM, MOTIONS.. 
          YEAH. THE SHOULD YOU. 
          HAVE TO HAVE SHE WROTE THEM UP FOR US ALREADY. 
          YEAH I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. OKAY. 
          GREAT. THANK YOU GUYS. BYE. 
          GOOD NIGHT. OH MY GOODNESS. 
          SO DO WE HAVE TO PUT ALL THE MOTIONS? DOES THAT HELP YOU? IF I WRITE. ON HERE LIKE A BIG X AND SAY ADJOURNED. YEAH, I DID IT ON SOMETHING. 
          ELSE THAT REAL QUICK. I DID IT ON SOMETHING ELSE. 
          LET ME DO. THAT. 
          REAL QUICK. ON THIS ONE. OKAY. 
          THANKS. UM. 
          CAN I SEE THAT? IS THAT A RED PEN? YEAH. NICE. 
          SO, UH, LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK. 
          THAT'S GOOD. THIS ONE IS A RIGHT. THIS ONE'S FINE. OKAY. 
          OKAY. SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF. LOOKS GOOD. CHURCH IS FINE. UM. 
          YEP YEP YEP. YEAH. YEAH. ARE YOU ABLE TO. 
          OKAY. ARE YOU. ARE YOU ABLE TO SEND THIS IN A WAY THAT WE CAN TYPE THE ANSWERS BEFORE? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. DO IT. UM, DO YOU WANT RIGHT NOW OR TOMORROW. 
          MORNING? TOMORROW MORNING. FINE. 
          TOMORROW MORNING. THANK YOU. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO OUR FINDINGS NOW OR. KEN, DO YOU LIKE? BUT WE DON'T USUALLY. RIGHT. UM. 
          YEAH. WITH THE HOUSTON. WE USED. OH, OKAY. LET ME DO IT NOW. HERE AND THEN THE. OH, YEAH. THIS ONE HAS LIKE, 5000 TO VARIOUS. RIGHT. UM. PETER. 
          THIS ONE ARE YOU DOING 2619. YES. 
          OKAY. I JUST WANTED I, I THINK THAT THEY WANT ME TO WRITE IT. NOW. MY HANDWRITING IS JUST NOT THAT GOOD. BUT IF THEY WANT ME TO WRITE IT NOW, I'LL WRITE IT NOW. YEAH. 
          YES. ON, UH, NO. RIGHT. WHEN DOES THIS. WHEN IS IT NOW. 
          BOARD GOING TO DECIDE WHEN WE DON'T. 
          OF COURSE WE'RE NOT ADJOURNING. IT FOR THE NEXT MONTH. 
          SEPTEMBER 23RD. CONTINUE. 28, 29. 
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OKAY. SO SEPTEMBER 20TH. UM, SEPTEMBER 23RD. CONTINUED HEARING WITH US CLOSED. 
          POTENTIAL DECISION. OCTOBER 14TH. WITH THE OCTOBER DATE. 
          1515. SO I WOULD SAY OCTOBER 10TH, 20. IT'S NOT A COMMISSION. OKAY. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. 
          SO WE SHOULD. ADJOURN A CASE TO NOVEMBER. 
          YES. OKAY. 
          NO, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. THAT'S THE OTHER ONE. 
          THE MEETING IS THE 15TH. YOU'RE SAYING THAT? YEAH, THE 14TH IS LIMITED. CONCEIVABLY. RENDER A DECISION. 
          YEAH, BUT THAT'S. WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED HEARING THIS THIS CASE YET. I. SAY YOU. 
          GOTTA LOOK AT. THE COURT. YOU CAN HAVE DECISION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M SORRY. THIS IS NOT OFF THE RECORD. I MEAN, YOU PUT IT OVER. YEAH. THIS IS ALL. I GUESS. I THINK IT SHOULD BE. NOVEMBER. UM, YES. BUT I 
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WOULDN'T. BUT. AND THEN THE. SO HE'S GOING TO TELL ABOUT THE, THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER. OKAY. SO THIS ONE HAS LIKE. 67 VARIANCES AND. THE WHOLE BOX. INDEPENDENT. AND THEN. OKAY. I ACTUALLY. DROPPED IT OFF AT THE FRONT. 
          LAST TIME. AND I YOU KNOW LIKE I. 
          DON'T KNOW WHEN I WENT TO BED AND I SAID WAIT A MINUTE. HOW DO I KNOW. LET'S LET HIM KNOW. CAN WE GET 
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BACK ON THE RECORD? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. COME ON, HAVE THESE ON. 
          TABLES BACK. WE ARE BACK WITH THE. 
          ZOOM. THIS. THE, UM. OUTCOME OF OUR DELIBERATIONS AND THE FIRST CASE IS CASE 2536, WHICH IS ADJOURNED TO NOVEMBER. 19. 
          19. NEXT CASE IS 2613. WHEREAS THE GREENBERG CBA HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE REFERENCE APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SECRET COMPLIANCE AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THAT SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRING NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. A CHAIR. BOTH SIDES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE. ZEBA 2613 BE GRANTED. PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE. 
          SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026. SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION OR AS SUCH PLANS MAY BE HEREAFTER MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OR AGENCY OR OFFICER OF THE TOWN, PROVIDED THAT SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A DIFFERENT OR GREATER VARIANCE THAN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HEREIN. THE VARIANCES BEING GRANTED ARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ONLY. ANY FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES, EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK OR OTHER VARIANCES WE APPROVED HERE IN. 
          AND THE FINDINGS WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE RECORD. SO ALL IN FAVOR WITH RESPECT TO. THE MOTION. 
          I. CHAIR VOTES I. NEXT IS 2616. 
          AND THAT IS ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES TO OCTOBER 15TH. DO WE. WE DIDN'T. SECOND MY MOTION. DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND DO THAT? WE DID. 
          SECOND WE DID. YES. OKAY. 
          WELL, KATHY, WITH NO. I HAVE THAT DIANE DID THE MOTION, BUT I DON'T. HAVE AN ACTUAL SECOND. SOMEONE DIDN'T SAY SECOND. I'LL SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT SOMEBODY DID. SAY IT. 
          OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO. SLEEP HERE. 
          NEXT IS. OKAY. IT'S 2617. AND THAT IS ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES TO OCTOBER 15TH. ALL RIGHT, NEXT CASE IS K 26, 2618. 
          THAT IS RUTH NEW YORK SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF. AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG CPA HAS HAS REVERSED AS REVIEWED, THE ABOVE REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO THE COMPLIANCE AND THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A CLASSIFIED UNLISTED ACTION UNDER SECRE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR. A. SO AM I DOING THE. MOTION TO STOP ME? OKAY. 
          THAT'S SUPPOSED TO. ASK FOR THE MOTION. 
          NO, THIS ISN'T MINE YET. NO, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT MINE. NO. 
          YOU DIDN'T. SECOND. OH, I SECOND. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR THAT SECOND. YES. WE HAVEN'T HAD. WE DON'T 
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HAVE A MOTION YET. YES. 
          NO, WE. DON'T HAVE. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO LET ME DO THE MOTION. UM. CAN I PROCEED WITH THE MOTION? YES. OKAY. UH, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN NUMBER. IN CASE NUMBER. ZEBA, 2618 BE GRANTED. PROVIDED THAT NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE. SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. NUMBER TWO, CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED AUGUST 5TH, 2026, SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION OR AS SUCH, PLANS MAY BE HEREAFTER MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OR AGENCY OR OFFICER OF THE TOWN PER AND PROVIDED SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A DIFFERENT OR GREATER VARIANCE THAN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HERE. IN CLOSE PER N NUMBER THREE, THE VARIANCE IS BEING GRANTED, OR FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ONLY, ANY FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES, EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK OR OTHER VARIANCES WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN AND THE FINDINGS WILL BE SUBMITTED NEXT WEEK BY. ME. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION? NO. 
          I'M SORRY. WE SECOND I SECOND THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          CHAIR VOTES I AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE ZONING BOARD VOTES TO ISSUE A NEGATIVE DECLARATION RELATED TO THE SUBJECT APPLICANT APPLICATION, FINDING THAT THE PROPOSAL WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT. SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. I. 
          VOTE ON APPLICATION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. YOU MADE A MOTION OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW WE'RE ON TO 2619. ALL RIGHT. 
          2619. WHEREAS THE GREENBERG'S EPA HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SEEKER COMPLIANCE. 
          AND NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION, REQUIRE NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION. MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE 2629 BE GRANTED, PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILES. THE SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEEDED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED AUGUST 12TH, 2026, SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION OR SUCH PLANS MAY HEREBY BE MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OR AGENCY OR OFFICER OF THE TOWN, PROVIDED THAT SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A DIFFERENT OR GREATER VARIANCE THAN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HERE IN. THE VARIANCE IS BEING GRANTED. AH, FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ONLY, ANY FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES, EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK OR OTHER VARIANCES. WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN.. I SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. 
          TRAVEL TY. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT WE STILL HAVE FINDINGS, BUT AS STATED, WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE RECORD AT A LATER DATE. NEXT CASE IS 2620 AND THAT IS ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES TO NOVEMBER 19TH. NEXT CASE IS 2621. AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG CPA HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SEEK A COMPLIANCE, AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRING NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES. 
          MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER DBA 2621 BE GRANTED. PROVIDED THAT ONE THE APPLICANT OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE THE SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. TWO CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED 
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AUGUST 12TH, 2026. SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION OR SUCH PLANS MAY BE HEREAFTER MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OR AGENCY OR OFFICER TOWN, PROVIDED THAT SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE DIFFERENT OR GREATER VARIANCE THAN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HERE. THREE THE VARIANCES BEING GRANTED ARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ONLY. ANY FURTHER ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES, EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK OR OTHER VARIANCES. WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN. THANK YOU. FINDINGS WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE RECORD AT A LATER DATE. 
          I SECOND HIS MOTION. OH, I'M SORRY. YES. 
          OH, IF YOU.. YES, WE HAVE A SECOND.. 
          SECOND. ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL I. BOW TIE. UNANIMOUS 2622195. ALL ARMY ROAD. WHEREAS THE GREENBERG CPA HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SEEKING COMPLIANCE. AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRED NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION. DO I HAVE SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. CHAIR. BOW TIE. 
          I HAVE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE ZIBA 2622 BE GRANTED, PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICATION APPLICANT OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE. SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED AUGUST 12TH, 2026. SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION OR AS SUCH PLANS MAY BE HEREAFTER MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OR AGENCY OR OFFICER OF THE TOWN, PROVIDED THAT SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A DIFFERENT EXCUSE ME OR GREATER VARIANCE THAN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HERE. THE VARIANCES BEING GRANTED. AH, FOR THE IMPROVEMENT SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ONLY, AND IF FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES, EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK OR OTHER VARIANCES WE HAVE APPROVED HERE IN. DO I HAVE A SECOND.? SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. 
          I. AND FINDINGS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT A LATER DATE. AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAS. WHAT IS THE NEXT THING WE HAVE COMING UP NOW. KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S YOU KNOW WE WANT. 
          A HOLIDAY. YEAH. HOLIDAY. 
          YOU'RE FOR. OKAY. IS THAT MONDAY. 
          THAT WORKS MONDAY. THAT WORKS. I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE WAS NOTHING ON MONDAY. YOU. 
          SO, ARE WE DONE? WE ARE ADJOURNED. UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEND THE NIGHT.
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