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WELCOME, TO OUR TOWN BOARD. YOUR WORK SESSION. AND TODAY
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IS, UH, APRIL 22ND, RIGHT AFTER 530. AND WE HAVE THE CHIEF AND CAPTAIN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT CENTRAL SQUARE CONTRACTS. I DON'T THINK YOU HEARD YOU..SEPTEMBER 2ND, NOT. SEPTEMBER. DID I SAY APRIL? OH, I'M SORRY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
OKAY. UH, WE'RE HERE REGARDING THE RESOLUTIONS, UH, FOR ARDSLEY, IRVINGTON AND DOBBS FERRY TO USE OUR, UM, BE ABLE TO ACCESS OUR CENTRAL SQUARE SOFTWARE. MAKE USE OF OUR CENTRAL SQUARE SOFTWARE, WHICH IS WHAT WE UTILIZE FOR OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. UM, WE MAINTAIN OUR OWN SERVER. UH, IT IS SILOED INFORMATION, AND IT'S PRIMARILY WHAT WE USE TO RECEIVE CALLS AND TAKE CALLS, DISPATCH EMPLOYEES TO POLICE CALLS, EMS CALLS, ANIMAL CONTROL. UM, IT'S REALLY A COST SAVING MEASURE FOR THE VILLAGES. AND THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE TO, UM, MEET THEIR NEEDS WITH REGARDS TO THEIR DISPATCH, REPORT WRITING SYSTEMS. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER THREE VILLAGES? UH, AS FOR NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT A POLICE DEPARTMENT REALLY CAN'T DO WITHOUT. BUT SOMETIMES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY DECIDE THAT THEY EITHER NEED TO UPGRADE OR, YOU KNOW, UH, GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH REGARDS TO WHO THEY USE. SO IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL DECISION FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. BUT THESE THREE DEPARTMENTS, I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN A LOOKING INTO DIFFERENT SOFTWARES. AND, UM, CAME TO TAKE A LIKING TO OURS. AND THE FACT THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR OWN SYSTEM AND WE HAVE EMPLOYEES IN PLACE THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO THEM. YOU KNOW, SHOW THEM HOW IT OPERATES, GIVE THEM A FIRSTHAND UP CLOSE LOOK. UH, THESE THREE DEPARTMENTS ARE INTERESTED.
DOES IT COST ANY MORE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MUNICIPALITIES AS PART. UM, WELL, IT ACTUALLY WILL SAVE THEM MONEY VERSUS DOING SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN. AND IT IS NOT GOING TO INCREASE WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR US, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE COVERING THEIR COST.
SO IT WILL REDUCE OUR COSTS ALSO.
WELL, IT'S IT'S MORE OF A COST SAVING MEASURE FOR THEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO COST US ANY EXTRA. IT'S LIKE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS.
SO THERE WAS A LOT. THERE WAS A LOT OF EMAILS BACK AND FORTH WITH CONCERNS FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE HEARING THIS WAS GOING TO BE A TOPIC. CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THE RISK LEVEL OF OF ANY THAT WE MAY BE FACED WITH? BECAUSE PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONNECTION, RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, AGAIN, IT'S NOT AN OUTSIDE SERVER. THAT'S RIGHT. WHICH IS WHICH IS OURS. AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO IS TOP STORY WILL HAVE THEIR SILOED INFORMATION. IRVINGTON WILL HAVE THEIRS, OURS. THEY WILL HAVE THEIRS, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM OURS. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, ANY SHARING DOWN THE ROAD, THIS IS REALLY JUST TO ALLOW THEM TO TRANSITION TO A NEW SYSTEM THAT WILL BE FOR THEIR BENEFIT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WAYS THAT IT COULD BENEFIT OR FOR DEPARTMENTS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER TIME AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE LET THEM TRANSITION AND HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT WAYS THAT IT COULD BENEFIT US JOINTLY.
I THINK THERE'S CONCERN THAT THEY'RE TIED INTO CAMERAS.
THEY ARE NOT. LIKE FOG, BUT THEY ARE NOT.
IS THIS IS THIS IS NOT AT ALL SIMILAR TO THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. THIS IS FOR OUR REPORT WRITING EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT, RECORDS MANAGEMENT, DISPATCH. YOU KNOW, RESPONSE RESPONSE TIMES. UM, IT'S NOT RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF, UH, CAMERA SYSTEM OR THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO. IT SEEMS TO ME THIS IS MORE LIKE AN INTRANET INSTEAD OF AN INTERNET, MEANING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING OUT TO THE WORLD WITH THIS DATABASE.
IT'S A SOFTWARE SYSTEM. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM. I'M SORRY. IT'S A IT'S A SOFTWARE SYSTEM. SO, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S SOFTWARE. SO WE USE IT AND IT'S REALLY FOR THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US HAVING OUR OWN SERVERS AND, YOU KNOW, BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS AND PARTNERS, ALLOWING THEM TO SAVE SOME COSTS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S POSSIBILITIES FOR AGAIN, DOWN THE ROAD TO BENEFIT ALL FOUR DEPARTMENTS. AND BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS JUST A GOOD PLACE TO START. YEAH. ONE LAST QUESTION. ISN'T THERE A PLACE YOU SHOULD BE? YES, SIR.
THERE IS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN I JUST ASK ONE THING? BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COURTHOUSE, AND I JUST WANT TO, SINCE WE HAD A DISCUSSION A FEW DAYS AGO, I WONDER IF I COULD JUST BRIEFLY JUST MENTION IT, AND THEN. AND
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THEN, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD COULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT OR THEY LIKE THE THE IDEA. OKAY, WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A MINUTE BECAUSE THIS IS AT THE 645. UM. UH, HE HAS HE HAS A STANDING APPOINTMENT. THAT'S WHY I KNOW THIS WILL JUST TAKE A MINUTE. SO WE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IN THE COURTHOUSE, AND THE CHIEF AND CAPTAIN SAID THAT IF, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO, UH, TO SPEND MILLIONS. DO WE FAVOR JUST. IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, DON'T SAY THAT. ME AND THE CAPTAIN SAID IT. SAID THAT. SAY THAT YOU.SAID IT. OKAY. I SAID IT, SO I FEEL WE DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR TO PUT A REFERENDUM, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE BALLOT TO SEE TAXES GOING UP. SO ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WAS MADE WAS TO LEAVE THE COURTHOUSE IN THIS COMPLEX WHERE THEY ARE TO MOVE THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. THIS IS A CONCEPT TO MOVE THAT YOU COULD THINK ABOUT, TO MOVE THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS TO THIS BUILDING, UM, TO MOVE THIS BUILDING, UM, TO ANOTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, LOCATION BECAUSE.
TOWN HALL, TOWN HALL, THIS IS THE CONCEPT THAT IF THE BECAUSE BASICALLY IF YOU WE HAVE A POLICE HEADQUARTERS, UM, IF WE FIND A POLICE HEADQUARTERS, THERE'S ALL THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS. THAT THAT WOULD STILL BE FOR THE SAME FOR IF THEY EVEN MOVED TO TOWN HALL. THIS THE COMPLIANCE AND THE REGULATIONS DOES NOT.
THE TOWN HALL DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME.
NO, NO NO NO NO. THE COMPLIANCE OF REGULATIONS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR THEM TO OPERATE ARE THE SAME. SO WE CAN'T GET OR GET AWAY FROM THAT. NO. BUT. RIGHT. BUT WE COULD WE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IF, IF THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS WOULD MOVE TO THIS BUILDING, IF THE BOARD WOULD, YOU KNOW, REVIEW IT AND LIKE THE IDEA, UM, THIS BUILDING WOULD BE A SUITABLE OPTION FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS..
AND THE QUESTION WITH REFERENCE TO THAT, IF I RECALL, WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING THE WHAT WAS THEN THE DOWNTOWN BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET, THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF, UM, ALL KINDS OF HARDENING AND SPECIAL THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TO THAT BUILDING TO MAKE IT SECURE. AND, AND, AND WITHSTAND WHATEVER WE. HARDEN IT HARDENING FOR THAT BUILDING THAT WOULD APPLY HERE. AND THAT COST WAS PROHIBITED. WHY WOULDN'T THAT APPLY? NOT GOING TO BE A ONE MINUTE DISCUSSION. AND WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT REGARDS. TO THE CHIEF AS WELL. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK. SO I MEAN DO YOU HAVE ANY..
WHAT I'LL SAY IS THIS CONVERSATION IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED MORE THAN A FEW MINUTES FOR WITH REGARDS TO ANY OTHER LOCATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MOVE TO, ONE BUILDING MAY NEED MORE, ONE BUILDING MAY NEED LESS, BUT THEY ARE ALL GOING TO NEED SOME HARDENING.
SOME, YOU KNOW, CHANGES, SOME WORK. IT'S IT WOULDN'T BE A CONSTRUCTION FREE PROCESS TO MOVE ANYWHERE. SO ULTIMATELY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR BUILDING AND WE DO NEED A SOLUTION. AND WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DEALING IN SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS FOR YEARS. WE NEED A LONG TERM PERMANENT SOLUTION. BUT, UM, AGAIN, THE THE HYPOTHETICALS OF THIS BUILDING, THAT BUILDING OR ANOTHER BUILDING, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE IN A FIVE MINUTE CONVERSATION.
I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT IT SINCE IT'S ON THE. AGENDA, IF I MAY BE EXCUSED.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. CHIEF. YES, YES. THANK YOU ALL. THANKS.
VERY. ABSOLUTELY GREAT. SUCCINCT.
JUST WHEN. YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO.
THAT WAS GREAT. OKAY. NEXT. UH, HERITAGE AND HARMONY COMMITTEE EVENT. CAN WE CAN WE CAN WE BRING MR. BLAINE UP? OKAY.
SHE SHE WAS GOING TO COME ELECTRONICALLY.
OH. SHE'S COMING. I THOUGHT SHE WAS COMING IN PERSON. DID YOU SEE HER? UH.
YES. SHE'S HERE. OH, SORRY. JIM. SHE CAME. THANK YOU.
NO, I JUST. I'M JUST EXCITED. OKAY.
HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YES. SO I AM, UH, ALKA SHUKLA.
I AM A GREENBERG RESIDENT. I, UH, REACHED OUT TO TOWN BOARD MEMBERS AND SUPERVISOR. UH, FEINER, REGARDING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FIVE YEARS AND HARMONY COMMITTEE. WHEN WE PROPOSED TO DO, UH, SOME FLAGSHIP PROJECT. GREENBERG.
STONY POINT IS ONE OF THEM. AND, UH, AFTER THE MEETING, UH, THERE WAS FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. SO I PROVIDED THE DETAILS WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN IN THE AREA. SO IN THIS MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, IF THERE IS AN UPDATE DECISION REGARDING THE COMMITTEE. WELL, YOU SUBMITTED A PLAN. I
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THINK YOU MADE A REQUEST OF $3,000 FOR.POSSIBLE. IF POSSIBLE. UM, WITH. FOR STARTERS, YOU WANTED TO PREPARE. YOU WANTED TO HAVE A DIWALI, UH, CANDLE LIGHTING IN OCTOBER, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO, UM.
YEAH, IF YOU WOULD SUMMARIZE ANY MORE THAN THAT, THAT WOULD ANYTHING ELSE WE'D NEED TO KNOW? YES. SO OUR FLAGSHIP PROJECT IS THAT THE. WE ARE LIGHTING. SO IT'S ON THE SIMILAR FORMAT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT STANDS FOR CHRISTMAS MENORAH. THIS IS NOT CURRENTLY DONE IN ANY OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG PARK IN RELATED VILLAGE FOR THIS PROJECT. I AM NOT SPEAKING IMMEDIATE FUNDING. WE DO HAVE DONATIONS IN PLACE THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF IT. SO THAT'S IN OCTOBER. THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED WITH DREAMWORKS TO WORK FOR THAT PROJECT. WE WOULD NEED FUNDING. SO IF WE HAVE A DECISION BY REGARDING THE FUNDING BY NOVEMBER, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. BUT WHAT I AM REQUESTING, UH, THE BOARD MEMBER, IF WE CAN HAVE A DECISION REGARDING THE COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN GET STARTED WITH OUR FLAGSHIP PROJECT FOR THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO WE YOU DID PRESENT THE OTHER ITEMS WHEN YOU CAME TO MEET WITH US. WE UNDERSTAND. I THOUGHT THAT ARDSLEY DID. DO A DIWALI CELEBRATION, THOUGH. YEAH, I'M PRETTY.
SURE THEY DO. UH, THEY DO, UH, CULTURAL CELEBRATION. THEY DO NOT DO THE LIGHTING CELEBRATION.
OKAY. SO WOULD. YOU JOIN FORCES WITH THEM AND DO THE LIGHTING WHEN THEY DO THEIRS OR WOULD BE SEPARATE? HOW WOULD THAT BE? WELL, THE POLE. SO I WAS THE PIONEER FOR STARTING THE ART DIWALI. I WAS THE, YOU KNOW, FIRST ORGANIZER. I DID THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. UM, THE WHOLE IDEA TO DO THIS IS TO HAVE A WIDER OUTREACH. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH GREEN ART. WE ALREADY HAS A CULTURAL CELEBRATION, WHICH IS LIKE THREE HOURS LONG. THE DANCING, SINGING, SOME CULTURAL EDUCATION. THEY CELEBRATION IS SOMETHING MORE ON THE EDUCATIONAL FRONT. UH, 45 MINUTES AND THE LIGHTING WILL STAY THERE FOR LIKE 15 TO 20 DAYS. JUST LIKE WHAT WE DO. FOCUS WAS WE DID DO THIS ONE YEAR AT RC AS WELL, BUT IT WAS NOT AFTER, UH, THAT TIME.
OKAY. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAD SAID THAT YOUR COMMITTEE WOULD NOT BE DUPLICATING ANY OF THE OTHER CELEBRATIONS OF THE OTHER VILLAGES OR WHATEVER, SO BUT IT SORT OF IT THIS SORT OF IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT OF A DUPLICATION.
IT IS NOT A, UH, ONE MEMBER BECAUSE, UH, WE DO NOT WANT TO DO THE CULTURAL CELEBRATIONS IF WE DO ANY.
YEAH. SO WE IT IS NOT A DUPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, UH, FORMAT. IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT AUDIENCE. AND IN TERMS OF REQUIREMENT, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT AS A CULTURAL CELEBRATION. SO IT'S NOT A DUPLICATION AS WE DID THAT ONE YEAR WHEN I INITIATED IT, ALONG WITH THE CULTURAL PROGRAM, UH, DUPLICATION. AND I THINK I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE DETAILS TO BRING SOCIETY. OKAY.
I THINK ANYTHING THAT BRINGS A COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND CELEBRATES CULTURE IS IMPORTANT. I THINK THIS IS AN ASSET. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE EVENTS, PEOPLE REALLY LOVE. IT MAKES LIVING HERE SPECIAL. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENT THAT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER IS AN IMPORTANT THING. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE DETAILS. SO.
OKAY, SO THESE ARE I BELIEVE I DID PROVIDE THE DETAILS IN A BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CULTURAL CELEBRATION. AND NO DANCING.
THERE IS NO FIVE HOUR PROGRAM. IT'S JUST SOMETHING WHERE TO RECOGNIZE THE HERITAGE FOR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER TO DO THIS. SO ARCHIE HAS NOT DONE THIS AND IT'S NOT GOING IN THIS YEAR. OKAY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SORRY, THE QUILT PROJECT THAT YOU WANT TO DO. SO THAT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE OF $3,000 TO GIVE TO A COMMITTEE.
AT THAT TIME, SO. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOUR STARTING YOUR COMMITTEE. BY THE WAY, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I BECAUSE I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT THIS COMMITTEE. IF WE
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HAVE NOT YET START TO FORM THE COMMITTEE TO START THE WORK, WE DON'T NEED THE FUNDING. DAY ONE. WHEN WE WILL UP THE ART HISTORICAL PROJECT. RIGHT. SO WE CAN WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. THAT WOULD BE IN, UH, LIKE DECEMBER, JANUARY WHEN YOU WHEN IS THE NEXT PROJECT THAT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DECISION ON THE PROJECT WHERE IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE, UH, THE FUNDING, BUT IT HELPS BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO GET STARTED WITH THAT. AND FURTHER THE FUNDING PART, YOU CAN DECIDE AND GIVE ME AN ANSWER AT A LATER DATE OR TIME. AND I BELIEVE IT SAYS SOMETHING IN YOUR AGREEMENT ABOUT OUTREACH BY THE COMMITTEE FOR DONATIONS. THAT WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW AND NOT THE TOWNS,HAT YOU WOULD SET IT UP PROPERLY WITH THE CONTROLLER IN TERMS OF ALLOCATION, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. SO IF WE ARE GETTING ANY DONATION, IT WON'T, UM, EXCHANGE HANDS IN TERMS OF, UH, WITH ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBER, BUT THE CHECK WILL BE SENT TO THE TOWN OF GREENBERG FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT. NO, THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO IF WE BUDGET CAN BUDGET THE $3,000, THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO OR WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DO TO OFFSET THE COSTS. , TO OFFSET THE COST? OKAY.OKAY. $300. I GOT IT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT, UH, ALLOCATED FOR, UH, HARTLEY AND I BELIEVE, UH, THE AMOUNT IS HIGHER NOW.
AND SINCE WE ARE TRYING TO, UM, HAVE A WIDER OUTREACH, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TO ALLOCATE FUNDING OUT OF BUDGET FASHION.
SO YOU ENVISION THIS TO BE TOWN WIDE, INCLUDING THE VILLAGES, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. FIVE, 488 INCORPORATED VILLAGE. EVERYONE IS INVITED.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE VILLAGE OFFICIALS REGARDING THIS? YEAH, SO I DID SPEAK TO, UH, MAYOR ADAMS TEAM, FORMER MAYOR, UH, KABOOM. AND THEY ALL ARE.
WELL, THAT'S ARDSLEY ONLY. HOW ABOUT THE OTHER VILLAGES? RIGHT. BECAUSE IF THIS IS TOWN WIDE, IT WOULD BE AN A BUDGET ITEM, WHICH MEANS THE VILLAGE, ALL THE VILLAGES WOULD BE PAYING INTO THIS. SO THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE TO AT LEAST LET THE VILLAGES KNOW OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. BUT $3,000 IN A BUDGET IS LIKE A COUPLE PENNIES. PROBABLY. EXPLAIN THAT TO THE VILLAGES.
WELL, I'M. SURE IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. AND WHAT WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE HAND WE ARE LOSING TIME HERE. AND THIS IS LIKE, UH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN LIKE, AT LEAST 4 OR 5 MONTHS SINCE I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO GET AN ANSWER. AND WHAT I AM REQUESTING, IF WE GET THE PERMISSION TO FORM THE COMMITTEE, WE CAN GET STARTED WITH THE WHAT? FUNDING IS NOT NEEDED TO, AND WE CAN REACH OUT TO OTHER VILLAGES BECAUSE FROM MY SIDE, I DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY. COMMITTEE IS NOT FORMED, SO I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT. OTHER VILLAGES WHERE. JUST ONE. COMMUNITY. I REACHED OUT TO.
HIM JUST TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN SAID IS THAT WHEN WE BUDGET IN THE NEXT BUDGET, WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE BUDGETS, AND ONE OF THE BUDGETS IS TOWN WIDE, INCLUDING THE VILLAGES. AND THIS THE COST, THE AMOUNT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY A NOMINAL AMOUNT PER VILLAGE, STILL IS SHARED BY THEM. AND OUT OF RESPECT, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT AND YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE OBJECTIONS, BUT. YOU WOULD NEED TO GET THEIR CONSENT. SO WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU GET THEIR CONSENT AS WELL AS OURS. UM, AND BECAUSE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION ON OUR OWN WITHOUT CONSULTING THEM. I HAVE AN IDEA. UM, IF I'M HAPPY TO WRITE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL, THE MAYORS, UM, COULD WE PUT THIS ON THE, UM, WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK AND THEN JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR TUESDAY, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION NEXT TUESDAY, BECAUSE THIS WAY WE CAN MOVE THIS THING ALONG. OTHERWISE WE'LL GET DISTRACTED.
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AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST KEEP POSTPONING AND POSTPONING AND POSTPONING. AND IF YOU WANT, IF I'LL GO.WELL, WE COULD. AUTHORIZE THE COMMITTEE WITHOUT AUTHORIZING THE EXPENSE. THAT'S FINE.
DO THAT. WE DO THAT. SO WHY DON'T WE FORM SO THAT SHE DOESN'T FEEL THAT SHE IS BEING HELD UP AGAIN? SO THAT'S FINE. I MEAN. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST AUTHORIZE THE COMMITTEE TO BE FORMED? WE COULD DO THAT NOW AND THEN. UM, THE COMMITTEE COULD, UM. RESOLUTION. YEAH.
UM, WE COULD WE COULD DO IT. I MEAN, IF WE WILL AUTHORIZE THE COMMITTEE, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE DONE BY RESOLUTION.
A RESOLUTION. RIGHT NOW, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING PEOPLE TO DONATE, AND THE TOWN ACCEPTING THAT MONEY, WE HAVE A PROCESS TO DO THAT SO THAT THAT MONEY DOESN'T GET SLIPPERY. RIGHT. WE WANT A DEDICATED FUND. UM, OKAY. SO WE'LL PUT IN. SO JOE, COULD WE HAVE A RESOLUTION PREPARED FOR NEXT TUESDAY? WELL, WE.
WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
FOR COULD WE HAVE A PROPOSED RESOLUTION. WE COULD PUT IT ON THE WORK SESSION. AGENDA VERY QUICK FOR US TO DRAFT UP THAT RESOLUTION. YEAH. SO WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING FOR APPROVAL.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING IT WOULD BE FOR.
FOR THE. FOR FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER. YEAH. THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
SO BUT IF, IF IN CONCEPT, EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD IS BASICALLY SUPPORTIVE OF OF THE CREATION OF THE COMMITTEE, THEN WE'LL AT THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER, UM, WE COULD, WE COULD ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. AND THEN BETWEEN AND THEN WE'LL SHARE THE RESOLUTION WITH ALL THE MAYORS, UM, AND INDICATE THAT, UM, THE 2027 BUDGET IS A REQUEST FOR $3,000, UM, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HELP ORGANIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH JUNETEENTH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE WE PUT SOME MONEY INTO, UH, JUNETEENTH. SO THIS IS ANOTHER, UM, CULTURAL. HOW IS THAT? IF IT'S A VILLAGE AS YOU GO. SO YOU HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE VILLAGE.
WE DON'T HAVE. TO DO IT. CAN I JUST. I JUST WANT TO ANSWER. SO YOU HAVE TO GET A YOU HAVE TO GET BUY IN FROM THE VILLAGES BECAUSE SHE'S SHE'S INCLUDING ALL THE VILLAGES. ALL THE VILLAGES. SO IT'S UNINCORPORATED AND THE FIVE AND THE SIX VILLAGES. SO WHAT DOES THAT RESOLUTION HAVE BEFORE WE CREATE THAT RESOLUTION I THINK IS THERE TWO BECAUSE I HEAR TWO RESOLUTIONS, ONE TO CREATE THE COMMITTEE AND THEN ONE WITH REGARDS TO THE DONATION, BECAUSE ARE WE PULLING IT FROM THEIR BUDGET OR ARE WE PULLING IT FROM.
THE THE BUDGET? I WOULD SAY THOUGH, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OCTOBER 1ST, WE CAN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE VILLAGES CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN THEN AND NOW. SO IT CAN BE ALL IN LOOPED INTO THE ONE RESOLUTION.
AND I THINK, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO NOTIFY THE VILLAGES. BUT FOR $3,000 WE DON'T IF THEY DON'T OBJECT TO IT, WE COULD JUST MOVE AHEAD WITH IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GET RESOLUTIONS HERE. SO WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL? IS PART OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WE PUT.
OUT THAT WE NOTIFY YOU. IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU ASKED MAYOR EDELSTEIN TO START THE PROCESS WITH THE VILLAGES.
HE COULD ACTUALLY SEND A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION TO THE OTHER MAYORS AND GET IT GOING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S COMING FROM THEM, IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE ACCEPTED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. I THINK. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I REALLY WISH I HAD KNOWN, UH, THESE THINGS LAST TIME WHEN I WAS THERE. SO TIME IS OF ESSENCE HERE. THE FIRST EVENT THAT WE ARE THINKING, UM, FOR, UH, TO DO MEET TO END OF OCTOBER FOR THAT ONE, WE DON'T NEED ANY FUNDING, ANY BUDGET, AS LONG AS THE COMMITTEE IS FORMED. YES, THE BUDGET PART, BECAUSE IF THERE IS NO COMMITTEE, I CANNOT EVEN APPLY FOR A GRANT. AND AS I MENTIONED, I AM ALSO LOOKING AT APPLYING FOR GRANTS.
SO WE AGREED THAT WE CAN DO THE FIRST RESOLUTION QUICKLY.
WITH ESTABLISHING THE COMMITTEE.
ESTABLISHING THE COMMITTEE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY MEMBERS, THERE'S SOME TRAINING THAT WE REQUIRE FOR ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE A MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEES, UH.
WHICH HAS TO OCCUR BEFORE THE APPOINTMENT.
BEFORE THE APPOINTMENT FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT PREVENTION TRAINING AND ALSO ETHICS TRAINING.
SO ARE WE GOING TO INTERVIEW ALL THE MEMBERS? OH. GUESS WE'D HAVE TO DO, LIKE A GROUP INTERVIEW. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF MEMBERS PREPARED READY TO GO? OKAY. YEAH. OKAY.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY? APPROXIMATELY. THERE.
ARE? UH, THERE ARE SEVEN. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S FANTASTIC.
YEAH. LIKE THE BEST ORGANIZER. UM, ANYWHERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY AND BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT YOUR EFFORT AND WANT TO HELP YOU MAKE IT A SUCCESS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SUPERVISOR FINAL AND THE BOARD MEMBERS. SO AS A NEXT STEP, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SUMMARIZE WHAT'S NEEDED?
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WE HAVE TO DRESS UP. WE HAVE TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE NEWLY FORMED COMMITTEE. WE HAVE TO THEN SET UP A IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE COULD DO A, I GUESS, A GROUP INTERVIEW OF ALL THE MEMBERS, UH, TO APPOINT YOU, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR TRAININGS BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY APPOINTED. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN AT OUR NEXT.AND FOR CLARIFICATION, THE TRAININGS ARE ONLINE. THEY ARE NOT LONG IN DURATION. SO AND THE, THE, UM MEMBERS TO BE CAN DO THEM ON THEIR OWN TIME RATHER THAN HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT DOING THEM AS A GROUP. I WOULD SAY. AND YES, YEAH, YOU'RE VERY. WELCOME. REALLY APPRECIATED JIM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. SAM. IF I CAN PLEASE BE PROMOTED. TERRENCE. WHOEVER'S BACK THERE.
YOU'RE NOW A SERGEANT. ON ZOOM.
SAM. UM, SHE DIDN'T SHUT DOWN. CAN YOU SHUT HER DOWN? I'LL GET THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS ON AS WELL.
ALL SET TO GO. ALL RIGHT. SO WELCOME, MISTER BLAND. YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE A SAFETY BASED PROJECT FOR YOUR PROPERTY THERE. JUST TURN THAT MIC ON, PLEASE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. THANK YOU.
SORRY. OKAY. UM. OKAY. THANKS. GOOD TO BE HERE. UM, I'VE LIVED AT 74 HIGH RIDGE ROAD IN HARTSDALE FOR 40 YEARS. AND, UH, GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS IS GOOD NEWS. LET'S SAY, IS I LOVE LIVING THERE. IT'S A GREAT PLACE. UH, I LIVE NEXT TO THE SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB, AND IT'S NICE IN SOME WAYS, LIVING NEXT TO THE GOLF CLUB. THE PART THAT'S NOT SO NICE IS I HAVE A LOT OF INCOMING GOLF BALLS BECAUSE I LIVE BY THE 16TH GREEN. 16TH GREEN IS JUST ABOVE MY HOUSE. UM, AND IT CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE. UH, ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. I GET A HUNDRED BALLS OR MORE A SEASON, AND THEY, UH, THEY TEND TO BE, YOU KNOW, ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY NEAR THE GOLF COURSE, BUT THEY LAND ALL THE WAY INTO MY PROPERTY BY THE FRONT DOOR.
AND ONE DAY, AS I MENTIONED IN MY NOTE, THAT I SHARED WITH ALL OF YOU, UH, YOUNG GUY KNOCKED ON MY FRONT DOOR AND ASKED IF IT WOULD BE OKAY IF HE RETRIEVED THE GOLF CLUB FROM THE FRONT SEAT OF ONE OF MY CARS, WHICH WAS PARKED WHERE I'M PROPOSING TO BUILD A CARPORT. BUT ANYWAY, UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED. WALKED OUT. WITH A CONVERTIBLE.
NO, NO, HE, UH, HE, UH, HE SAID HE LOST CONTROL OF THE GOLF CLUB, AND AND IT LEFT HIS HANDS AND FLEW. ORDER OF MAGNITUDE 40, 50 YARDS THROUGH THROUGH THE WOODS. BECAUSE THERE'S WOODS ON THAT PART OF MY PROPERTY. SOMEHOW AND SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, A CHIP SHOT BECAME A GOLF CLUB. THAT THAT BROKE THE WINDSHIELD OF ONE OF MY CARS. AND SO THE GLASS WAS SHATTERED IN THE FRONT SEAT, AND THE GOLF CLUB WAS SITTING THERE. HE PROCEEDED TO TAKE HIS GOLF CLUB, AND AND HE MAY HAVE SAID HE WAS SORRY, BUT NEITHER HE NOR THE GOLF CLUB EVER REALLY DID ANYTHING. AND ANYWAY, I LOVE, FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE GOLF. I'M A GOLFER. IT'S A NICE COURSE. UM, YOU KNOW, IT HAS PLUSES. IT HAS MINUSES. UH, I HAD WORKED WITH THE CASTLE GOLF CLUB AND BILL MINARD, THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, TRYING TO GET THEM TO BUILD A BIG FENCE. THEY HAVE MANY BIG FENCES, NETS ALL OVER THAT COURSE, PROTECTING DIFFERENT PEOPLE. UH, BUT WHEN THEY WHEN I APPROACHED THEM TO DO IT, I THINK THE TOWN HAD GOTTEN STICKIER IN TERMS OF PERMITTING.
OR MAYBE THE GOLF CLUB WAS PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO WHAT THE TOWN MIGHT REQUIRE. I DON'T KNOW WHICH IT WAS, BUT THAT PROJECT, PUTTING UP A BIG NET BY MY PROPERTY LINE, WAS A PART OF THAT BIGGER PROJECT THAT WAS GOING TO PUT UP A NET ALONG THE DRIVING RANGE, YOU KNOW, BY THE HARTSVILLE AVENUE APARTMENTS, AS WELL AS THE TENNIS BUBBLE. I SUPPORTED THE WHOLE THING,
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INCLUDING THE PROJECT BY MY PROPERTY LINE. UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH HARTSDALE AVENUE SAYING THE COMMUNITY OPPOSED IT. SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. THE TENNIS BUBBLE DID.AND MY PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO FORWARD, BUT THE GOLF COURSE NEVER DID IT BECAUSE THEY FOUND IT TO BE TOO EXPENSIVE, TOO COMPLICATED. THEY COULDN'T THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE TOWN. SO WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
YEARS LATER, WE STILL HAVE TONS OF GOLF BALLS COMING INTO MY YARD, AND I'M TIRED OF IT. UH, IT'S DANGEROUS. MY PROPERTY GETS DAMAGED. UM, IT IT IT COULD BE. IT COULD BE. IT COULD INJURE PEOPLE. UM, AND, UH, FRANKLY, I WANT TO PROTECT AT LEAST THE CARS I HAVE OUT THERE. SO I WANT TO BUILD A CARPORT, NOT COMPLICATING ISSUE. AS IF THIS ISN'T ENOUGH.
IS THAT WHEN MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1936, UM, IT WAS FIRST OF.
IT WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSES ON HIGH RIDGE. HIGH RIDGE WAS BUILT AS KIND OF A VERY EARLY, EARLY DEVELOPMENT.
WONDERFUL ARCHITECT. DID ALL THESE HOMES. ANYWAY, UM, THERE WAS AN EASEMENT THAT EXTENDED HIGH RIDGE ROAD FROM THE CUL DE SAC THAT ENDS AT MY HOUSE. THERE'S AN EASEMENT THAT GOES THROUGH WHAT, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IS MY PROPERTY UP THROUGH THE DRIVEWAY AND UP TO THE GOLF COURSE. PRESUMABLY, IN THE EVENT IF THE GOLF CLUB WENT OUT OF BUSINESS SOMEDAY AND THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP THAT INTO WHATEVER, THEN THEY COULD HAVE, UH, ANOTHER WAY TO GET IN AND OUT AND THAT EASEMENT OBVIOUSLY HAS NEVER BEEN EXERCISED. UM, MY DRIVEWAY, MOST OF MY DRIVEWAY GOES RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE OF THAT EASEMENT.
HALF OF MY FRONT YARD IS OR MAYBE A THIRD OF MY FRONT YARD IS IN THAT EASEMENT. SO HOW THAT WAS EVER DONE, UH, AND HOW THAT EASEMENT WAS CREATED? I DON'T KNOW. I'VE TRIED TO FIND OUT FROM THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY REDIRECTED ME BACK TO MY FRIEND HERE, GARRETT. UH, SO I HAVE NO INFORMATION, BUT THE FACT IS, IT REMAINS THE STATE LAW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT REGARDING THESE THINGS IS IF THEY ARE NOT USED FOR SIX YEARS, THEN THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ABANDONED. IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN 90. MY HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE 90 YEARS. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY. WHEN THE STREET WAS BUILT. IT WAS OBVIOUSLY BUILT BEFORE THE HOUSE. UM, I WOULD LOVE IT IF THE EASEMENT WAS ABANDONED BY THE TOWN. AT A MINIMUM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SOMEHOW GIVE ME PERMISSION TO BUILD A CARPORT ON PART OF THE CARPORT. ANY WAY WOULD BE ON THE EASEMENT, AS IS MY DRIVEWAY TODAY, AS IS THE WALK TO MY FRONT DOOR. UM, SO I CAN MOVE FORWARD TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT FITS ARCHITECTURALLY AND AND WILL PROTECT MY MY VEHICLES. ARE THERE ANY DOWNSIDES TO THE TOWN, JOE? UH, TO GET RID OF THE EASEL.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR DPW TO SEE IF WE USE THE PAPER STREET FOR ANY REASONS.
SO WE DID DO SOME RESEARCH. AND AT PRESENT AND I HAVE SOME GRAPHICS ON THE SCREEN HERE TO SHOW, WE'LL CALL IT THE PAPER STREET. UM, YEAH. IS IT AN EASEMENT OR IS IT A PAPER STREET OR BOTH? I CALL IT A PAPER STREET. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M RIGHT. WHERE DO YOU GET THE TERM EASEMENT FROM? JIM? I MADE.
CONSIDERING THIS TO BE A PAPER. I'VE TRIED TO GET INFORMATION TO PAPER. IT. THIS IS. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ON THE..
THAT'S PAPER STREET. IT'S A BIG.
SO IT'S OKAY. IT'S A PAPER I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
SO ULTIMATELY THE. STREET ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND THAT'S ALL IT IS. IT'S IN FAVOR OF.
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
AND THIS WILL LIKELY, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, NEVER COME UP. BUT, UM, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY BASED NEED THAT MR. BLAND IS BRINGING TO THE TABLE. SPOKE WITH, UM, AMANDA AND JOE.
UM, ONE MECHANISM WOULD BE LIKE A REVOCABLE LICENSE WHERE, UM,
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THERE WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN MR. BLAND AND THE TOWN THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE TOWN BOARD. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO.IT WOULD BE RECORDED. IT WOULD BE RECORDED THAT THAT DOCUMENT WOULD ALLOW HIM THE RIGHT TO BUILD THE CARPORT, HAVE IT IN PLACE FOR SOME REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME, FIVE, TEN YEARS. AND THEN PERHAPS AFTER THAT UPDATE AUTOMATICALLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT AT ANY TIME, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE TOWN NEEDED THAT AREA FOR UTILITIES OR LIKE I SAY, THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED AT THE GOLF COURSE WHERE YOU NEEDED EMERGENCY ACCESS OR JUST AN EXTENSION OF THE STREET GRID, THE TOWN WOULD RESERVE THAT. RIGHT. THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT WOULD BE RECORDED SO THAT FUTURE OWNERS OF THE SITE BECOME AWARE AS THEY THEY PURCHASE THE SITE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE CARPORT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT ANYONE THAT LIVES THERE IN THE INTERIM. AND, UM.
I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE REVOCABLE EASEMENT AS LONG AS IT'S RECORDED, WHICH MEANS IT'S PART OF YOUR DEED SO THAT ANYBODY WHO TRIES TO BUY YOUR HOUSE, THEY DON'T THINK, HEY, LOOK, I GOT THIS WONDERFUL CARPORT, AND I COULD USE THAT LAND. UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO ADDRESS YOUR PROBLEM.
UM, YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT BEING IN THE BACKYARD. YOU'RE JUST WORRIED ABOUT YOUR CARS. I AM, I AM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T GONE TO WEARING HELMETS AND AND ROOFING THE WHOLE PROPERTY. I REMEMBER YOU COMING TO THE MEETING AND ADVOCATING FOR THE NETS, AND.
UM, I'M A GOLFER, SO ANY ANYONE WOULD KNOW, NETS MAKE SENSE AND AND FRANKLY, IF THEY HAD, IF THEY HAD PUT A NET ALONG HERE, IT WOULD REDUCE THE VOLUME OF GOLF BALLS. BUT A LOT OF GOLF BALLS WOULD STILL GET THROUGH BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE NET HIGH ENOUGH TO STOP EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF EXPENSE.
UM. YEAH, I THAT WAS QUITE A MEETING. UH, ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES THE GOLF COURSE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE BALLS ARE NOT DAMAGING NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES? UH.
SO THAT THAT NET MAY BE REVISITED? FRANKLY, I THINK YOU WERE SO REMOTE FROM THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, WHICH WAS WHICH WAS SHOCKING TO ME. AND THEN THEY PUT UP THESE POPLAR TREES THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW THEY'RE FALLING DOWN, RIGHT? THEY GROW FAST, BUT THEY, UM, BUT THEY WERE HITTING BALLS AND BREAKING WINDOWS, YOU KNOW, ON THE FIFTH OR SIXTH FLOOR.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE COMMUNITY FOUGHT. THAT MADE NO SENSE TO ME. UM, UM. THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE IF THEY KNEW WHAT. WHAT THE, THE TYPE OF TREES THEY WERE PUTTING UP. RIGHT. THE, UM, BECAUSE I'M NOT A LAWYER. THANK YOU. JOE. UH, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF OF LAW IS, UH, IS THAT WHEN YOU MOVE NEXT TO A GOLF GOLF COURSE, YOU ACCEPT THAT RISK JUST AS AND THE AND THE PRECEDENT THAT I RECALL IN, IN COLLEGE WAS IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO BOUILLABAISSE. DON'T YOU CAN'T SUE IF YOU GET A BONE AND CHOKE.
AND SO ANYWAY BACK TO THE THE LIABILITY OF THE GOLF.
COURSE, THE GOLF COURSE ESTABLISHED. PARDON ME, WHEN WAS THE GOLF COURSE ESTABLISHED? 1898. ALL RIGHT. OH WELL. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S NOT WHEN YOU MOVED IN.
YEAH. I'M OLD, BUT NOT THAT OLD. NO. NOT, YOU.
KNOW, I'M JUST. KIDDING. SHE'S DOING THAT.
OKAY. SO ANYWAY, IT WOULD BE GREAT WHAT I, UH, TO ME, IT'S PERFECTLY, UM, UNDERSTANDABLE THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO IN, YOU KNOW, BE RECORDED IN MY DEED. WHAT I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE TO DO. FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE THAT MUCH LONGER ANYWAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR FUTURE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR. IF IT COULD JUST BE IN PERPETUITY. AND IF THE TOWN NEEDS TO EXERCISE THE EASEMENT, THEN THE BUILDING, THE CARPORT NEEDS.
TO DO IN PERPETUITY TO MAKE IT A NUMBER OF YEARS.
OKAY. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.
OR UNTIL A POTENTIAL TERMINATION NOTICE.
BEFORE. YEAH. AS MENTIONED, AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL WITH NO NEED TO REALLY DO ANYTHING.
THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD.
YEAH, EXACTLY. AND WE'LL JUST HAVE NOTICE PROVISIONS IN THE REVOCABLE LICENSE.
YEARS AGO. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I'M SURE THERE'S NO RECORD OF THIS. I OFFERED TO BUY THIS FROM THE TOWN, UH, TO YOUR PREDECESSOR, BUT IT WAS TURNED DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHY.
UH, THERE WAS. NEVER TURNED OUT. I REMEMBER.
IT WAS BECAUSE ONE OF THE CRITERIA FOR BUYING A PAPER STREET IS THAT THE TOWN HAS ABSOLUTELY PERCEIVES ABSOLUTELY NO USE FOR THAT PAPER STREET. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND SO IF YOU HAD A MOUNTAIN AT THE END OF THAT, AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR USE ACCESS, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
RIGHT? BUT THERE IS NO MOUNTAIN. IT'S A GOLF COURSE.
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THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.IT'S A TOUGH HOLD APART. IS THAT.
CAN'T IS THAT. IT'S A TOUGH HOLE TO PAR.
WOW. THAT WAS A BIT OF A SLOPE.
GREAT. THANK YOU FOR TAKING. THE TIME. THANK YOU.
UM, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I JUST WANT.
TO DO THE LIVE WITH THAT. YEAH, YEAH.
YOUR TIME. MENTION THAT THAT JIM IS ON THE NATURE CENTER BOARD, AND THIS. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
ARE YOU A NEW MEMBER? YEAH. HOW NEW ARE YOU? HOW MANY YEARS? I MEAN, QUITE A FEW. QUITE A FEW YEARS, ANYWAY, SO. AND SATURDAY IS PUBLIC LANDS DAY AT THE NATURE CENTER. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M PUTTING IN A PLUG AND THERE'S A NEW WELCOME CENTER THAT IS REALLY PHENOMENAL. AND WE'RE DEDICATING THE NEW BUILDING AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND WE HOPE TO SEE ALL OF YOU, OR AS MANY AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE THERE.
SO AS OPPOSED TO WEAR, WORK, SHOW, WORK, OUTFIT, RIGHT.
IT IS A VOLUNTEER DAY AFTER THAT. ALL.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WAS COMING INTO MY PROM DRESS. NOW. YEAH.
THAT WOULD BE YOU WOULD BE VERY WELCOMING.
TOM DRESSED. SO FORGIVE ME FOR TAKING THAT.
THAT FOR EDITORIALIZING. AND THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE. IT, BUT THANK YOU.
AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, GARRETT AND LIZ GARRITY FOR ALL OF THE HELP THEY'VE GIVEN ME AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE THIS, THIS ISSUE. SO ANYTIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT.
UH. WE HAVE DONNA REQUEST COTSWOLD PARK, OLD ARMY ROAD, COTSWOLD WAY RIGHT AWAY. PETER.
DYLAN. CAN'T BE, UM. HEY, PETER.
HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS PETER BLAIR. 308 GLENDALE.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER INTO IT? THANK YOU.
UH. I'M HERE WORKING ON CELEBRATING THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE CONTINENTAL ARMY'S MARCH THROUGH GREENBURG. SPECIFICALLY ON OLD ARMY ROAD. BUT THEY ACTUALLY CAME FROM SOUTH IN TUCKAHOE AND CONTINUED ON OLD ARMY ROAD TO WHERE IT MET CENTRAL AVENUE, WHICH DIDN'T EXIST AT THE TIME. BUT PARTS OF CENTRAL AVENUE ARE KNOWN AS WASHINGTON AVENUE, AND I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THOSE WERE THE PARTS OF THE ROAD WHERE THEY CONTINUED UP, WHERE THEY WENT TO THE BATTLE OF WHITE PLAINS, WHICH MAY VERY WELL HAVE HAD PARTS OF IT IN GREENBURG ALONG, BECAUSE WHERE IT HITS, IT'S RIGHT ON THE BORDER ANYWAY. IT'S A BIG DEAL. UM, I'M ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT HISTORIC COMMITTEES THAT ARE TRYING TO TO RECOGNIZE THIS. UM, AND 100 YEARS AGO, THE TOWN CONSIDERED IT A BIG ENOUGH DEAL THAT THEY CHANGED THE ROAD NAME FROM TUCKAHOE ROAD TO OLD ARMY ROAD. UM.
THAT. HAPPENED IN 1925. IT WAS SPEARHEADED BY A TWO TWO LOCAL RESIDENTS, BUT THE TOWN HAD TO SIGN OFF ON IT. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.
IT WOULD HAPPEN. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT WAS BEFORE YOU WERE ELECTED. BALL.
ANYWAY, UH, IT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S CALLED OLD ARMY ROAD. EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. AND SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH GARRETT FOR MONTHS NOW TO, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. AND I'VE ALSO GOTTEN, UM, UH, HISTORIANS AND ARTISTS TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PROPOSED BANNERS TO MAKE A FEW POINTS. SO BANNER ONE HERE IS OUR TROOPS MARCHED HERE. IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE BUT. A REALLY NICE.
CONCEPT. UM, AND, UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD GO, UM, OUTSIDE OF COTSWOLD PARK AT A FIVE WAY INTERSECTION BETWEEN ARDSLEY ROAD, OLD ARMY ROAD AND, AND COTSWOLD WAY. UM, IT WOULD ONLY BE UP FOR. THAT'S A PICTURE OF THE CORNER. UM, AND IT WOULD ONLY BE UP FOR A MONTH, BUT IT WOULD BE PHYSICALLY THERE TO, UH, THAT WAS MY MY POOR ATTEMPT OF SHOWING WHERE WHERE IT COULD GO. WE, UH, GARRETT TRIED TO HELP ME MAKE IT BETTER, BUT THAT WAS. UH.
ANYWAY, UM, SO IT WOULD BE THERE TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. THAT WAS A MOUNTING PIECE OF HARDWARE THAT I WAS PROPOSING, BECAUSE SINCE IT'S A CORNER, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE TWO BANNERS FACING TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE AT THIS FIVE WAY INTERSECTION, YOU CAN SEE IT FROM MOST ANGLES. UM, AND, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO TELL PEOPLE THAT FOR FIVE DAYS, 250 YEARS AGO, WE WERE THE CENTER OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE REVOLUTION. AND THEY WERE NOT THERE, JUST MARCHING FROM PLACE TO PLACE. THEY WERE BEING CHASED BY A LARGE BRITISH FORCE THAT WAS THREE TIMES LARGER THAN THEY WERE. THEY WERE RETREATING.
THEY WERE RETREATING FROM RIGHT. THEY WERE RETREATING FROM MANHATTAN. AND BEFORE THAT, THE BATTLE OF LONG ISLAND
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IN BROOKLYN. BUT THEY WERE THEY WERE TRYING TO GET TO WHITE PLAINS TO RESTOCK AND TO GET THE HIGH GROUND WHEN THEY ESTABLISHED THEMSELVES ON CHATTERTON HILL AND THE AND BATTLE. O BATTLE HILL, THEY HAD THE HIGH GROUND.IT STILL THEY NEVER MADE IT TO THE HIGH GROUND. THAT'S WHY THEY THEY HAD TO RETREAT FURTHER. THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE VERY TOP OF THE HILL. I KNOW THEY GOT FLANKED, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY, I THOUGHT THEY ACTUALLY GOT THERE A DAY OR TWO BEFORE THE BRITISH HAD MANAGED TO ESTABLISH A WALL THAT DIDN'T WORK. CHECK IT OUT. I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT THEY NEVER MADE IT TO TAKE THE REAL TOWN TO BATTLE AVENUE. OH, THAT'S. YOU KNOW, I KEEP TRYING TO FIGURE THESE THINGS OUT. I READ THE BOOKS AND I LOOK AT THE MAPS AND IT'S. ANYHOW, IT'S VERY INTERESTING.
AND YES, THEY HAD A RETREAT AND THEN THEY, THEY WENT ACROSS THE HUDSON AND THEY LIVED TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ALL HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. I HAVE A QUESTION AT THE ODELL HOUSE. UH, THERE'S LIKE A MARKER, A HISTORIC MARKER. AND I'M WONDERING, I THINK THIS IS, LIKE, REALLY FABULOUS WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT I'M SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WAS NOT AWARE OF THE OLD ARMY ROAD. UM, UM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTION, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STREET NAMING. I'M WONDERING IF, LIKE, THAT BANNER COULD BE TURNED INTO SORT OF A MARKER, AND THEN WE COULD PLACE IT. SO I HAD COTSWOLD, UM, YOU KNOW, PARK, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING THERE, UM, MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN OTHER LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING. I THINK STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. START WITH THE MEDIA.
I JUST THINK THIS IS SO, SO ATTRACTIVE THAT IT'S A SHAME THAT IT'S ONLY FOR LIKE A COUPLE OF DAYS.
CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? HOW TALL IS THIS? WELL, IT HASN'T BEEN PRODUCED YET, SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OPTION THERE. UM, UH, THE MOST LIKELY WAY OF DOING IT IS, UH, THEY HAVE SOME PRE STANDARD. THEY'RE MADE BY BIG MACHINES AND THEY HAVE STANDARD MEASUREMENTS. UH, ONE IS FOUR BY APPROXIMATELY SIX. SO FOUR FEET HIGH AND SIX FEET WIDE. UM THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BOTH BIGGER AND SMALLER.
UM YOU NEED TO WORK WITH OUR, UH, POLICE TRAFFIC PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO SITE DISTANCE BEING BLOCKED.
WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY MY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY.
WELL, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE SET BACK SOME. AND ON THIS EMAIL CHAIN. TO THE POLICE TRAFFIC PEOPLE NO, NO, DON'T. DON'T BE HAPPY TO. BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT THE POLICE ARE ALREADY SEEM TO BE ON RECORD SAYING THAT THIS WASN'T THEIR, THEIR ISSUE.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I THINK WOULD MAKE MOST SENSE TO, TO DO JUST THAT IS UM, TO MEET IN THE FIELD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ENVISION IT HERE AND THEN LITERALLY TEMPORARILY PUT IT THERE. AND IF IT HAS TO BE ADJUSTED A FEW FEET, DO SO BEFORE IT'S UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS TEMPORARY. SO THAT I THINK MR. BLAIR WAS INDICATING IS THAT LIKE THIS CAN EASILY BE SHIFTED TO MAKE OBSERVATIONS ON THE SAFETY LEVEL. I DO AGREE THAT TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONTROL OFFICER WOULD MAKE SENSE TO BE THERE. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIZES THAT SIZE. YEAH, EXACTLY.
THAT SIGN. HOW BIG IS THE SIGN AGAIN? THE BANNER. LET'S SAY FOUR BY SIX. BUT AGAIN, IF THE POLICE WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IT CAN BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF CAMPAIGN SIGNS THERE, ALWAYS THERE.
WELL, THERE ARE A LOT THERE. RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S EVER SAID THAT. THAT'S A SITE DISTANCE PROBLEM. BUT THEY'RE NOT FOUR BY SIX.
THEY'RE NOT. SPONSORED RIGHT NOW. RIGHT.
YEAH. RIGHT. DO WE HAVE THIS LIKE WRITTEN UP ANYWHERE LIKE AS A PROPOSAL. THE WHOLE.
I THINK I THINK GARRETT WROTE. IT UP.
TO SEE THE WHOLE THING LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY THE SIZE, RANGE, THE TIMING, THE WHOLE THING. YOU KNOW, JUST AS WE TYPICALLY. WOULD, I THINK THAT.
IS REALLY SHOULD. HAVE THE RESOLUTION.
I THINK THIS IS LIKE SO AMAZING. I THINK THE DESIGN IS REALLY FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THIS. AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. IT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, AND I'M I'M LIAISON TO THE ODELL HOUSE AND I'M REALLY NOW VESTED IN THAT HISTORY. AND I'VE ALSO BEEN UH, LIAISON TO REVOLUTIONARY. 250 WESTCHESTER. 250 AND SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY EXCITING, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HAPPENING VERY QUICKLY, AND IT'S WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENT DOES THAT SET? BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY. SO I YOU KNOW, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO FOLLOW, UM, GARRETT SUGGESTION THAT WE GO ON SITE THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE THE, THE TRAFFIC OFFICER. TAKE A
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LOOK AND OPINE ON IT. THERE'S A TIME SENSITIVE. THIS HAS TO BE DONE QUICKLY. RIGHT. SO IF IT DOES SHOULD WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING LIKE NEXT TUESDAY.MAYBE IF WE CAN. I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN VOTE ON.
IT TOMORROW. IT'S OCTOBER. YEAH, IT'S OCTOBER 28TH. YEAH. WELL NO. SO OCTOBER 28TH IS THE BATTLE OF WHITE PLAINS. THEY WERE ON OLD ARMY ROAD BETWEEN THE 20. WHERE'S THE.
ONE THAT SHE'S GOING BACK BETWEEN THE 21ST AND THE 26TH WAS THE ACTUAL MARCHING ON OLD ARMY. I WAS HOPING TO GET IT UP. UH, AT LEAST A WEEK OR TWO BEFORE THAT. IF POSSIBLE. UM, THE TURNAROUND FOR PRODUCING THE BANNERS IS PRETTY QUICK, BUT IT'S NOT INSTANTANEOUS. I HAVE BOTH A FENCE COMPANY ON HOLD FOR THIS AND A BANNER COMPANY I WAS WAITING FOR THIS APPROVAL. GARRETT AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE THE SUMMER. AND AND BEFORE THAT, I WAS WORKING ON IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE. GOING BACK TO THE SPRING. UM, AND UM, ANYWAY.
LET ME ASK THE QUESTION. THE COTSWOLD PARK IS REALLY, UH, COTSWOLDS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO IF THE IF WE'RE PUTTING THIS ON COTSWOLD PARK AND THE COTSWOLD PARK IS, UM, IS OWNED BY THIS, THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, DOES THE TOWN BOARD HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROVE IT IF THE. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE OF THE COTSWOLD ASSOCIATION WOULD SAY THIS IS OUR PARK, WE'RE AUTHORIZING IT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BASICALLY, THEY SAY THEY HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS. THEN WOULDN'T HE BE ABLE TO? WOULDN'T PETER BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITHOUT A RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD? WE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAVE HELPED MANAGE IT, BUT IT'S NOT OUR PARK. BUT IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC CONTROL. NO, NO.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST THE RESOLUTION, ESPECIALLY JUST BECAUSE THE GREENBERG LOGO'S ON IT AS WELL.
TOWN AND GREENBERG. WELL, I WAS ASKED TO PUT THAT ON. IF YOU DON'T WANT IT ON, IT DOESN'T.
HAVE TO. I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AT ALL. I'M JUST SAYING THAT. TYPICALLY I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY FAILING IS THAT THIS IS SUCH A POSITIVE. UH, UH, INITIATIVE THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS HISTORY. AND IT'S I THINK A LOT OF SCHOOL STUDENTS, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, THEY'LL BE REALLY PROUD OF THIS. SO I THINK THAT ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO TO MOVE THIS ALONG, BUT I ALSO WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF WE COULD AFTER THE BANNERS ARE UP, HAVE A PERMANENT MARKER. UM, ON THE PARK, JUST LIKE WE DID AT THE ODELL HOUSE. AND THEY DO IT IN THE VILLAGES BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. BUT RIGHT NOW. NOW LET'S TALK. ABOUT THIS. AND NO ONE IS ASKING AND NO ONE IS, IS SUGGESTING THAT HERE, I DON'T THINK IS SUGGESTING THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. WE'RE JUST ALL CONCERNED FOR SAFETY AND LIABILITY.
SO WE SHOULD WE REALLY NEED TO DO IT IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND NOT TRY TO SHORT.. WHAT WAS COTSWOLD NAME? I KNOW THAT'S BRITISH, BUT IS THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE. HISTORY SIGNIFICANCE OF THE. COTSWOLD WAY? IT WAS NAMED AFTER A PART OF ENGLAND WHERE THEY, UH, THEY WERE COPYING THE. ARCHITECTURE AND. OH, OKAY. SO THAT. THAT WAS ALSO DONE ABOUT 100.
YEARS AGO. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE. OH, WOW. YEAH, YEAH.
WELL, THIS IS GREAT. YOU'RE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS VERY, VERY EXCITING. AND I, I LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN I NEVER KNEW ABOUT OLD ARMY ROAD. YEAH. THANK YOU.
IT'S. AND IT REALLY IS BEYOND JUST JUST THAT ONE CORNER THEY WERE THE. AND THEN I DO PLAN TO BE BACK HERE IN, UH, 2081 BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S. WE'LL BE HERE.
THAT 2081. DID I SAY IT WRONG.
YOU SAID 2001. I WON'T BE HERE. NO. THAT'S WRONG. I WON'T BE HERE EITHER. UM, WHAT DID YOU, UM.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. HOW YOU.
WELL, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IS WHEN THE SUNNINGDALE COUNTRY CLUB AREA BECAME THE. THE 31. OH, THANK YOU. IT BECAME THE FOURTH LARGEST POPULATION CENTER IN THE UNITED STATES FOR FOR A MONTH. WHICH SAT.
FOR A MONTH. BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BIGGER THAN VIRTUALLY EVERY CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, BAR A FEW.
SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ON FOR A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 29TH? I MEAN, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR THE GET ALL THE SIGHTLINES REVIEWED AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT? SO WHY DON'T WE? I MEAN, THERE'S.
THERE'S AMPLE SPACE THERE, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE A MOCK BANNER AND JUST GUESSTIMATE WHERE, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY IT WOULD BE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP MOVING BACK AND MOVING BACK UNTIL THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL. RIGHT. UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMFORT LEVEL, SOME PIECE OF THAT GRASS AREA. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY.
OKAY. WELL LET'S THEN. BUT IT DOES HAVE TO BE FEEL
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VERIFIED. IT CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE.A GATE. YEAH. SO WE WAIT TO HEAR FROM WHEN YOU SET THAT UP AND, UH, GO FROM THERE.
ALL RIGHT. DID YOU PUT THIS ON. DID YOU PUT IT UNDER A CD. OR DID.
WE'RE GOING TO HOLD IT. OVER. AND THAT WAS JUST A FUNCTION OF IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SUCH A GAP BETWEEN THIS AND THE OCTOBER 14TH MEETING WITH THE ASPIRATIONS OF HAVING THIS UP, UM, A LITTLE BIT IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL 21ST EVENT. UM, THERE'S JUST LIMITED OPTIONS.
SO THIS DOES GET A LITTLE TRICKY, BUT YOU COULD ALSO APPROVE IT ON THE CONDITION THAT IT MEETS SIGHTLINE. UM, APPROVAL FROM THE SERGEANT AND THEN SET A DEADLINE FOR THAT.
AND NOW I THAT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE THEN IF YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING UP, IT'S AN OPTION.
THOUGH, IF. I THINK IT'S SIMPLER TO HAVE THAT MEETING SOONER THAN LATER AND THEN TO PUT IT ON FOR A SPECIAL MEETING WITH THE RESOLUTION.
YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO AVOID A SPECIAL MEETING.
SAME DAY AS OUR WORK SESSION. AND IN THE MEANTIME, IF IT COULD BE JUST DRAFTED UP AS A. OH, THAT'S RIGHT, I FORGOT, I FORGOT IT'S JUST NOT POSTED. IF I GOT THE BACK STUFF THAT GOES BEHIND THAT. OH OKAY. OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON FOR TOMORROW NIGHT. UM. THE, UM. AND I DID SPEAK TO, UH, DYLAN PINE, WHO'S THE HEAD OF THE EDGEMONT, UH, COMMUNITY COUNCIL, AND HE HAS NO OBJECTION TO US VOTING ON THE RESOLUTION. UH, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MENTIONED. TO ME.
HE DIDN'T MENTION THAT. TO HIM. NO.
NO, HE SAID HE WANTED SOMETHING IN WRITING. YEAH. CONCERNED ABOUT IT. YEAH.
OKAY, SO HE'S SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, APPARENTLY. WHAT HE DIDN'T WANT WAS THIS THIS EVENING. UM, BUT.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED. CLAUSE SAYS THE FINAL LOCATION SHALL BE FILLED, VERIFIED WITH THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONTROL OFFICER PRIOR TO INSTALLATION.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. UH, THAT IT'S CONDITIONED ON THERE BEING A SAFE. NOW, WE SAY THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE THERE, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY MUST PUT IT, EVEN IF IT'S UNSAFE, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE VERIFYING.
IT. AND WILL THERE BE LIKE A CEREMONY OR SOMETHING ATTACHED TO IT BEING PUT UP? QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING. WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND.
I HAD LOTS OF THINGS IN MIND. THAT'S JUST THE GETTING THIS UP HAS BEEN. YEAH. TAKING ALL THE ALL THE ENERGY. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD.
YEAH. AND YOU'RE PART OF THE EDGEMONT HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU HAVE AN ISSUE.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD.
THANK YOU. NEXT, UH, PROPOSED COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES. WE HAVE SANDY MORERA, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S TWO PROPOSED GROUP HOMES, UM, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE TOWN. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR AND SAM OR TERRENCE, IF YOU COULD KINDLY PROMOTE THOSE THAT ARE IN THE WAITING ROOM. I SEE MISS MORERA. WELCOME, MISS.
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MISS BOSSY. AND THEN. OKAY. LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE HAS JOINED US.
GOOD AFTERNOON. HI ., THERE. AND I'M A BIG OF. HELLO.
SO COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THE PROPOSED GROUP HOMES? YES. UM, SO WE ARE PROPOSING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THREE COMMUNITIES, UM, HOMES IN THE TOWN OF FEINBERG, UH, TO PROVIDE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOMES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES FOR AN AGING OUT OF RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS. UM, THE INITIATIVE IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS AN IMPORTANT POSITION FACING YOUNG ADULTS CURRENTLY AND THEIR FAMILIES AS THEY MOVE FROM SCHOOL BASED LEARNING TO STUDIES INTO ADULT SERVICES. UH, INDIVIDUALS, PLEASE HOMES OR MEMBERS OF THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY COMMUNITIES. AND THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE LIVING CLOSE TO THEIR FAMILIES, THE NATURAL SUPPORT SYSTEM IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. EACH PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS A. FOUR BEDROOM HOME AND WOULD OPERATE AS A HIERARCHY COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS A GROUP HOME.
THE HOMES WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING FOR AVERAGE STAFFING AND
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SUPERVISION, WITH TRAINED STAFF AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES TO SUPPORT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, DAILY LIVING NEEDS AND INDIVIDUALIZED GOALS OF THE RESIDENTS. THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS ARE AT SEVEN CROSS LANE, HARTSDALE, NEW YORK. THE SECOND PROPOSED LOCATION IS 33 GREENWOOD LANE, WHITE PLAINS, NEW YORK, AND THE THIRD IS 189 SOUTH ROAD IN WHITE PLAINS. HE HAS APPROACHED THE CENTER OF CREATING AMPLE MODERN INSTITUTIONAL ENVIRONMENT. EACH RESIDENCE IS INTENDED TO FUNCTION AS A HOUSEHOLD AND SURROUNDING.COMMUNITY. WHICH IS WHERE'S THE THIRD.
ONE? ACTUALLY? THERE'S A THIRD GROUP HOME.
SORRY. ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S A THIRD PROPOSED AT 199 SOUTH ROAD? CORRECT.
OH, BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL. NEVER NOTICE ON THAT ONE.
YEAH. NO. AND WOULD THAT POSSIBLY. BE WITHIN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS RATHER THAN GREENSBURG AND NOT.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE. BOUNDARY SOUTH ROAD COULD EASILY BE. WHITE PLAINS TLG. YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A SOUTH ROAD IN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS AS WELL, BUT I JUST, UM. YEAH, I WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT PROPOSAL. UM. YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN.
THERE. PLEASE SEND THAT ON THE EMAIL CHAIN THAT I'VE BEEN CORRESPONDING ON. BUT NONETHELESS, I DON'T.
THERE'S ALSO A GROUP HOME, UH, I BELIEVE ON SOUTH ROAD.
AND VERIFY IF THAT IS THE TOWN OF GREENBERG OR THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS. BECAUSE THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. YEAH. JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE IN RECEIPT OF THE PACKAGES FOR SEVEN FROST, 33 GREENWOOD. UM, BUT NOT SOUTH ROADS. SO IF YOU COULD JUST DISTRIBUTE THAT. BUT YOU'RE FREE TO TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE THAT.
OKAY. YEAH. UM, SO HE HAD A THE PHOTO THAT I'M GETTING A HOME, NOT AN INSTITUTIONAL ENVIRONMENT. EACH RESIDENCE IS INTENDED TO FUNCTION AS A HOUSEHOLD WITHIN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, WHERE RESIDENTS CAN DEVELOP GREATER INDEPENDENCE, PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, MAINTAIN MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR FAMILIES, AND RECEIVE THE LEVEL SUPPORT NECESSARY TO LIVE SAFELY AND SUCCESSFULLY. OUR GOAL IS NOT SIMPLY TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO LIVE. OUR GOAL IS TO HELP EACH PERSON CONTINUE TO GROW, DEVELOP SKILLS, BUILD CONFIDENCE, AND ACHIEVE THE GREATEST LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE POSSIBLE. I'VE HAD HAS SEEN FIRSTHAND WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES RECEIVE CONSISTENT PERSON CENTER SUPPORT AND ARE GIVEN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THEIR ABILITIES WITHIN OUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS. WE HAVE SUPPORTED INDIVIDUALS WHO INITIALLY REQUIRE THE STRUCTURE AND ASSISTANCE OF AN IRA, AND WHO THOUGHT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF INDEPENDENT LIVING SKILLS AND CONTINUED SUPPORT. WE'RE EVENTUALLY ABLE TO TRANSITION OUT OF AN IRA AND INTO THEIR OWN APARTMENTS. WE HAVE ALSO SUPPORTED INDIVIDUALS IN DEVELOPING VOCATIONAL EMPLOYMENT SKILLS. INDIVIDUALS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN JOB READINESS AND EMPLOYMENT PREPARATION PROGRAMS. DEVELOP THE SKILLS NECESSARY TO ENTER THE WORKFORCE AND SUCCESSFULLY SECURE EMPLOYMENT WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES. THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS REPRESENT BOTH PERSONAL CENTER SERVICES ARE INTENDED TO ACHIEVE. SUCCESS IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL. FOR SOME, SUCCESS MAY MEAN LEARNING TO PREPARE A MEAL, MATCH. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES, TRAVEL MORE INDEPENDENTLY, OR BECOME MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. FOR OTHERS, IT MAY MEAN OBTAIN A JOB OR EVENTUALLY MOVING INTO A MORE INDEPENDENT LIVING ENVIRONMENT. THE ROLE OF EHAB IS TO MEET EACH INDIVIDUAL WHERE THEY ARE PROVIDED TO SUPPORT OPPORTUNITIES AND ENCOURAGEMENT NECESSARY TO HELP THEM REACH THEIR OWN HIGHEST LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE AND PERSONAL FULFILLMENT. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE COMMUNITY BASED RESIDENCE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH GOVERNMENT FACILITIES ARE NOT IN GREENBERG OR WESTCHESTER COUNTY. THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL MODEL THAT HAS OPERATED SUCCESSFULLY WITHIN COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS. PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION AND OTHER ESTABLISHED ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDING IRA IN COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL SERVICES AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY, INCLUDING THE HAWTHORNE FOUNDATION, SEVERAL POLICY OF WESTCHESTER, WESTCHESTER JEWISH COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND THE NEW YORK STATE OPIOID HUDSON VALLEY ESL, WHICH ALSO OFFERS STATE SUPPORTED RESIDENTIAL FARMS WITHIN THE GREEN PARK AND BROADER WESTCHESTER AREAS.
THESE PROVIDERS ADMINISTER THE COMMUNITY BASED RESIDENTIAL SERVICES ARE ALREADY PART OF THE FABRIC OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY. INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES ARE ALREADY LIVING IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE SEEK PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT WHILE PARTICIPATING IN EVERYDAY COMMUNITY LIFE. EHAB IS PROPOSING TO FOLLOW THIS SAME ESTABLISHED, COMMUNITY BASED MODEL. WE ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE PROPERLY STAFF, PROFESSIONALLY SUPERVISED, WELL-MAINTAINED AND RESPECTFUL OF THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF THESE COMMUNITIES, BUT TO BECOME RESPONSIBLE MEMBERS OF THEM. AS A PROVIDER OF SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS WITH AND TO THE STABILITY. SINCE 1997, EHAB HUMAN SERVICES HAVE COMMITTED
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TO A PERSON. CENTERS REPORTS THAT RECOGNIZE EACH INDIVIDUAL'S ABILITY, PREFERENCES, NEEDS, AND GOALS.WE CURRENTLY HAVE BEEN PROVIDING RESPITE FROM AREA ALLOCATION SERVICES IN THE WESTCHESTER. WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY WITH SERVICES FOR THEIR LOVED ONES. RESIDENTS WILL BE SUPPORTED IN DEVELOPING DAILY LIVING SKILLS ASSESSMENT, COMMUNITY RESOURCES, PARTICIPATING IN RECREATIONAL AND SOCIAL ACTIVITIES, EXPLORING VOCATIONAL AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FROM APPROPRIATE AND ACHIEVING THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE POSSIBLE FOR THEM. WE BELIEVE THAT A SUCCESSFUL RESIDENTIAL AREA SHOULD DO MORE THAN PROVIDE SUPERVISION, AND IT SHOULD CREATE OPPORTUNITY. IT SHOULD HELP INDIVIDUALS DEVELOP SKILLS, MAKE CHOICES, ESTABLISH MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS, PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITIES, AND CONTINUE PROGRESSING FOR THEIR PERSONAL GOALS. THIS PROJECT ALSO REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP US STRETCH OUR COUNTY FAMILIES, AND FOR ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT TRANSITIONS FROM THEIR LOVED ONE'S LIFE. BUT WE ARE ASKING IF THE COMMUNITY IS TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PEOPLE IT IS INTENDED TO SERVE. THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT OUTSIDERS. COMING TO WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY. THEY ARE A FAMILY WHO ARE ALREADY PART OF THE BROADER WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY. THEY ARE YOUNG ADULTS WHICH MEANS SIGNIFICANT TRANSITION POINT IN THEIR LIVES AS THEY AGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT NEED APPROPRIATE ADULT RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ALLOW THEM TO REMAIN CLOSE TO THEIR FAMILIES, MAINTAIN IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIPS, AND CONTINUE PARTICIPATING IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHILE RECEIVING THE SUPPORT THEY REQUIRE FOR THEIR FAMILIES. HAVE AN APPROPRIATE RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN WESTCHESTER. METERS FROM THE DOORS IN TRANSITION INTO ADULTHOOD WITHOUT UNNECESSARILY LOSING THEIR CONNECTION TO THE FAMILY. IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SUPPORTED THEM THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES. WE HAVE LOOKED FORWARD TO WORKING COLLABORATIVE WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBERG. LOCAL OFFICIALS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FAMILIES AND THE NEW YORK STATE OPIOID THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. OUR GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH SAFE WHILE SUPPORTIVE HOMES THAT BECOME POSITIVE AND INTEGRATED PARTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHILE PROVIDING THE INDIVIDUALS WHO RESIDE THERE AND THE STABILITY, DIGNITY, OPPORTUNITY, INDEPENDENCE AND TRUE SENSE OF BELONGING. ULTIMATELY, WE'RE NOT SIMPLY PROPOSING FREE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS. WE ARE PROPOSING FREE HOMES, HOMES FOR YOUNG ADULTS, FOR MASS TRANSFER TO REMAIN CLOSE TO THEIR FAMILY HOMES, WHERE THEY CAN CONTINUE DEVELOPING SKILLS AND INDEPENDENCE, HOMES WHERE THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, PURSUE MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITIES AND MOLD THEIR ADULT LIVES AND WHEN POSSIBLE. HOMESTEAD CENTER WAS A FOUNDATION FROM WHICH INDIVIDUALS MAY 1ST DAY TAKE THE NEXT STEP TOWARD EVEN GREATER INDEPENDENCE. UM, SO THAT IS THE THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
HAVE YOU MET WITH ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS YET? I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THEM, UM, IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN CALLING ME, UM, AND THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. UM, FOR THEM. SO AND WE DID GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THEM. COULD YOU DEFINE WHAT A CLUSTER IS? BECAUSE AT LEAST IN THE POETS CORNER AREA, I KNOW OF LEAST ONE MORE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S TWO VERY GOOD, YOU KNOW, WALKING DISTANCE. UM, TO THE PROPOSED ONE ON FROST.
DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE DEFINITION OF CLUSTER IS? UM, BECAUSE AT LEAST THE ONE THAT'S IN POET'S CORNER ON FROST. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A ONE THAT'S ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, AND THERE MAY BE A THIRD. I'M NOT SURE. AND VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY. SO HAVE YOU ACTUALLY MAPPED OUT WHERE THE GROUP HOMES ARE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SEPARATION? YEAH, WE DID GET, UM, WE DID DO A STUDY, UM, TO SEE WHAT THE LOCATIONS WERE. THEY ARE, UM, WITHIN TEN MILES, TEN MINUTES OF EACH OTHER. UM, THEY'RE NOT, UM, LIKE, ON THE SAME STREET. SO WE PICKED UP ON THE STREETS.
UM, SO WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE WITHIN TEN MINUTES OF EACH OTHER. I THINK THE ONE IN FROST IS PROBABLY NOT. TEN MINUTES IS PROBABLY ONE MINUTE.
YEAH, IT'S ABOUT. ONE. WITHIN TEN MINUTES IS TEN MINUTES. RANGE. RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION.
IS. UH, DID YOU SHOW, UH, CAN YOU SHOW US, UM, THE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE GROUP HOMES, UH, PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT ARE AROUND FROST. I'M ONLY PICKING FROST BECAUSE I'M WELL AWARE THAT THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP HOME. UM, UH, I THINK THE SUPERVISED RIGHT WITHIN ONE MINUTE WALKING DISTANCE, IF YOU WALK SLOW.
YEAH. I DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS STUDY THAT, UM, WE DID.
LET ME JUST MAKE SURE. IF WE CAN SEE THAT ON A MAP
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THAT. IT'S LESS, THEN IT'S LESS THAN 1000FT. IT'S LIKE, I THINK 700FT FROM.THE RESEARCH THAT WE DID, SEVEN FROST LANE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 734FT FROM THE NEAREST EXISTING FACILITY. UH, ON BURNS STREET, I BELIEVE. CORRECT. UM.
IS THERE ANOTHER ONE IN THAT AREA? SO I. HAVE THERE'S ALSO A SALVATION ARMY. UH, UM, I THINK OWNED, UM.
NOT WITHIN EIGHT FEET. ON FROST. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING ON THE SAME STREET. IT'S OWNED BY ARE ON FOR US.
WHAT IS OWNED BY. SALVATION ARMY? UH, IT'S A NOT FOR PROFIT. YOU KNOW. THE SALVATION ARMY IS. WHAT IS THE. I'M NOT SURE. IT'S NOT A GROUP HOME. I THINK IT'S JUST. IT'S JUST A HOME FOR SOMEBODY FROM THE SALVATION ARMY. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THE THE THE QUESTION. OF RESIDENCE.
THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UM, THAT I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED GROUP HOMES. I HAVE NEVER VOTED AGAINST THE GROUP HOMES SINCE I'VE BEEN TOWN SUPERVISOR. BUT WHAT.
I. KNOW THAT I DIDN'T VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT THE BOARD, I'M PRETTY. I'M PRETTY SURE.
YOU IT FOR IT. YEAH, BUT LET ME. THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF IF THERE WAS, LIKE, ONE GROUP HOME THAT WAS PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA ONE TIME, IT WOULD BE MUCH, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THERE'D BE BECAUSE I THINK GROUP HOMES ARE IMPORTANT AND OR NEED OR NEEDED. UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WE'RE GETTING THREE AT ONE TIME, IT'S GOING TO GET ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, JOINING FORCES, AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MUCH HARDER TO GET TO GET ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WE'RE SATURATING, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU PICK LIKE ONE LOCATION AND THEN, UH, AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND THEN IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, UM, THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LESS OPPOSITION. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIES IN THE TOWN WHO HAVE CHILDREN WITH DEVELOPMENTALLY DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, WHO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT GROUP HOMES AND NEED IT.
OKAY. SO CAN I. JUST FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? OF COURSE. YES. I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. GROUP HOME. THESE GROUP HOMES ARE VERY SMALL. THEY ARE FOUR, UH, BEDROOMS, HOMES. THOSE ARE SMALL. THERE'S A HUGE NEED FOR THEM TO BE GROUP HOMES. AND I FULLY SUPPORT THEM. HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND SATURATION IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD OR OR RADIUS IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST WAY FOR IT TO GO ABOUT THIS. SO I WOULD SAY LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES AND HAVING A BROADER DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM SO THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD, A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE INUNDATED WITH IT. AND THEN THERE ISN'T NEGATIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PERCEPTION OF WHAT IT IS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VERY, VERY SMALL. THIS IS NOT LIKE SOME BIG INSTITUTION. AND THERE WERE THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE GOING TO BE BARS ON THE WINDOWS AND ALL THESE ARE VERY LOW KEY ENVIRONMENTS WHERE USUALLY YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S EVEN A GROUP HOME. BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE SENSITIVE, I THINK SPREADING IT OUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAME TO THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES. UM, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YES. SO, UM, SO HOW MANY ADVANTAGES FOR THE TOWN IS GOING TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT IN THE MARKET, RIGHT. UM, THESE WERE HOMES THAT WERE OUT IN THE MARKET. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE KIND OF WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PROPER OVERSIGHT. SO HAVING THE HOMES, UM, KIND OF WITHIN A RELATIVE RADIUS FROM EACH OTHER WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE HOUSES EVEN FROM, LIKE UPPER MANAGEMENT, UM, WHERE THERE WILL BE CONSTANT OVERSIGHT FROM OUR UPPER MANAGEMENT WITH THEM ONCE WE START SPREADING HOUSES INTO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. IT'S A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE. IT'S JUST A LITTLE HARDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE TO THESE HOMES. WELL.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE WALKING FROM HOME TO HOME? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS AND THEY CAN DRIVE A FEW MORE BLOCKS AWAY. UM, YEAH. AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO BESIDES THE BESIDES THE PROXIMITY, UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ASPIRATIONS, THE GOALS. THEY ALL SOUND VERY WORTHY. UM, TRAINING, OUTSIDE TRAINING. BUT WHAT KIND OF ACTUAL CARE? UM, IS IT 24 OVER
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SEVEN CARE? THERE ARE FOUR BEDROOMS. ARE THE DO DO THE CARETAKERS LIVE IN SLEEP IN, UM, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE ACTUAL CARE THAT IS GIVEN AND THE ACTUAL, UM. YOU KNOW, PROCEDURE DURING THE DAY FOR THE THE RESIDENTS? YEAH. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING FOUR BEDROOMS. BUT FOR ME, EACH AND IT WOULD BE FOUR INDIVIDUALS PER HOUSE. UM, THEY WOULD EACH GET THEIR OWN BEDROOM. THERE WOULD BE 24 HOURS SUPERVISION AT MINIMUM. THERE WOULD BE TWO STAFF AT ALL TIMES IN THAT HOME. UM, DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS, THERE COULD BE WHERE MORE STAFF WOULD BE NEEDED AND THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED BASED ON, YOU KNOW, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL'S NEEDS. UM, AS FAR AS THEIR DAY TO DAY AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UM, MOSTLY ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT COME I HOMES THEY HAVE, UM, DAY PROGRAMMING AND IT COULD LOOK DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF THEM. SO I MAY BE ABLE TO ATTEND. THEY HAVE LOCATION SERVICES. UM, SOME MAY BE ABLE TO ATTEND VOCATIONAL UM SKILLS.UM PROGRAMS OR SUPPORTED EMPLOYMENT PROGRAMS. UM, SO THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY CAN OCCUPY THEMSELVES WITH OR THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING, AND THEY WOULD BE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THAT TODAY PROGRAM, THEN THEY WOULD KIND OF COME HOME KIND OF LIKE HOW WE WORK. RIGHT? SO WE NEED OUR HOME TO GO TO WORK, AND WE COME BACK HOME. UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE WOULD BE LIKE, SORT OF LIKE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. UM, SATURDAY, SUNDAYS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY GO OUT TO COMMUNITY OUT AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GO WATCH A MOVIE, GO TO DAVID BUSTER'S.
UM, THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, OF THEIR CHOOSING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO DO, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO WITH STAFF SUPPORT AT ALL TIMES.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FAIRLY HIGH FUNCTIONING POPULATION OF RESIDENTS. IT SOUNDS LIKE. YES.
YEAH, IT COULD BE A MIXTURE. IT COULD BE A MIXTURE. IT COULD BE SOME THAT NEED MORE SUPPORT. UM, WITH THERE ADLS, I MEAN, THEY NEED IT DONE FOR THEM. IT COULD BE SOME THAT ARE VERY INDEPENDENT WITH THEIR INDEPENDENT LIVING SKILLS. SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT BY THEMSELVES. UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEY HAVE BEEN IN RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS, THEY DO NEED SUPPORTS. UM, THEY'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING REINTEGRATED INTO THE FAMILIES. AND AS WE HAVE GOTTEN IN THIS, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS TO GET TO KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO OFFER THESE SERVICES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES ARE VERY MUCH INVOLVED. YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE THEM HOME FOR HOME VISITS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S THAT COMBINATION OF, YOU KNOW, THAT SOME ARE ABLE TO GO HOME, UM, AND, AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE ABLE TO MANAGE THEM AT HOME, WHICH KIND OF SIGNALS TO US THAT THEIR BEHAVIORS, UM, ARE MANAGEABLE. UM, IN OUR HOME. AND, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS FOR THE LEVEL OF FOOD THAT THEY'RE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WANT TO BE SURE THAT IF WE'RE IF WE'RE HAVING GROUP HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT THEY HAVE THE ALL THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS LIVING CONDITIONS AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, FOOD AND AND THESE ARE. VERY WELL SUBSIDIZED BY THE FAMILIES. AS WELL. YEAH. I JUST IT'S IT'S INFORMING ME. IT'S INFORMING THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YEAH. AND WOULD THE STAFF COME IN AND OUT OR WOULD THEY BE LIVING THERE. YOU SAID, I KNOW THERE'S 24/7 SUPERVISION, BUT WOULD THEY BE LIVING IN THE RESIDENCES OR COME IN AND OUT FOR THEIR SHIFTS? THEY WOULD BE COMING IN AND OUT OF FOOTAGE. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THAT, UM, I'M SORT OF ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS WE HAVE ONLY A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, DECISION. AND IN THE PAST, WHEN WE'VE HAD GROUP HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, THERE'S BEEN MORE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'D BE MORE MEETINGS, UH, OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, THE AGENCIES, UM, UM, WOULD MEET WOULD DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GIVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE MOVING THERE. I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE YOU WOULD CONSIDER VOLUNTARILY, UM, AGREEING ON A MORE OF A DELAY WHERE THE TOWN WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO WORK WITH YOU. UM, AND AND REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS SO THEY DON'T FEEL.
BECAUSE I FEEL IF THE NEIGHBORS, I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED RATHER THAN IT'S RUSHED. I THINK THAT THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE. YOU KNOW, IF THEY KNOW THE FAMILIES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO ARE MOVING THERE AND THEY GET TO MEET SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
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WHO WOULD PROBABLY BE SUPPORTIVE. BUT, UH, BUT I THINK THAT, UM. IF THEY CAN'T DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO HAVE THIS IN THEIR COMMUNITY BASED ON WHETHER THEY, LIKE THE RESIDENTS. NO.PERSONALLY, NO, BUT NONE OF THEM. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS WE I GOT A LETTER FOR TWO OF THEM. UM, I WAS AWAY ON VACATION AND THEY SENT IT TO MY OFFICE AUGUST 26TH, SO I DIDN'T EVEN NOTIFY. IT'S NOT ON THE. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TOMORROW NIGHT. NO, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE TO MAKE A. DECISION. 30 DAYS IS, UH, AUGUST OR OCTOBER 4TH. THE STATE HAS GIVEN US 40 DAYS.
SO WE. IT REALLY IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FEEL THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST WE'RE YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION. EVEN THE MEETING TODAY, YOU KNOW, UM, TO BE HONEST, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T EVEN, UH, CERTAIN THAT WE WERE GOING TO. OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE A COMMUNITY MEETING. I WOULD HAVE TOLD EVERYBODY WHEN THEY CALLED ME. YEAH.
WELL, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES HERE. NUMBER ONE IS THE PROXIMITY, UM, OF THE GROUP, HOME TO ANOTHER GROUP HOME. AND TO ME, BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY AT THIS MOMENT, WHICH MIGHT WORK FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION'S TIMELINE, DOES NOT NECESSARILY WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU CAN EXPLORE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AT MORE OF A DISTANCE, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. AND THEN NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, HAVING HAVING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SO THAT THEY THEN IT BECOMES A MORE WELCOMING KIND OF EXPERIENCE.
I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE IDEA AND CONCEPT AND NEED FOR GROUP HOMES. UH, THE MAJOR COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM OTHER GROUP HOMES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RESIDENTS. THEY WELCOME THE RESIDENTS. UH, IT'S FRANKLY THE WORKERS AND PARKING IN SOME AND IN SOME CASES A VERY OVERSIZED MINIBUS WITH GROUP HOMES, YOU KNOW, WORDING ON THE SIDE OF IT, WHICH IS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN, UH, IF THEY ARE A COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, THE BACKUP ALARMS, WHEN THERE ARE SHIFT CHANGES, UM, REGARDLESS OF THE HOUR. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HOW THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED BECAUSE, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THESE PROPERTIES HAVE. I ONLY KNOW ABOUT TWO. I AND FRANKLY, THE LETTER WAS DATED IN AUGUST. I DIDN'T SEE IT UNTIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SO THE FACT THAT THE THE 40 DAYS STARTED ON THE DATE THAT IT WAS THAT WAS WRITTEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT LETTER BEFORE IT GOT TO US. UM, BUT PUTTING THAT ASIDE, UH, I WOULD LOOK WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT I HAVE FOUND TO BE THE MAJOR ISSUE. UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE FUNCTIONING OF THE, THE GROUP HOME ITSELF OR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN IT. UM, IT'S DEALING WITH VEHICLES AND WHAT THOSE VEHICLES DO TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES. SO, UM, WE INTEND FOR THESE THESE HOMES OR THESE GROUP HOMES ARE FOR INDIVIDUALS. SO WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE OTHER LARGER PROGRAMS THAT TEND TO HAVE BIGGER BANDS. WE HAVE HOMES THAT HAVE 8 OR 9 INDIVIDUALS IN OTHER AREAS. SO IF THOSE BIG VEHICLES ARE NEEDED FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, BUT FOR THESE, FOR THESE HOMES, WE'RE THINKING OF, IF WE FOR MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION, WE ARE TO UTILIZE, UM, SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A MINIVAN, UM, A SMALL SEDAN. UM, UM, SO WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO HAVE ANY CARS WITH LOGOS FOR THESE HOMES OR ANYTHING. UM, FULL PASSENGER VANS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHAT ABOUT RAMPS? UM, SO THAT WOULD ALL DEPEND ON THE NEEDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
SO IF THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT REQUIRES, UM, IF THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE HOME, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, A READY TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE HOME, THEN THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO. UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE SELECTED INDIVIDUALS YET, BECAUSE EVEN IF WE HAVE SUCH INDIVIDUALS, WE CAN'T MOVE UPON ANY INDIVIDUALS INTO FAMILIES.
COMMIT TO US. AND THIS PROJECT ALSO, UM, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, IT'S AN A POOL FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE AGING OUT IN THE
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COMING YEARS, 2027 TO 2030. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE COMING IN AS SOON AS THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED. ON DAY ONE. WE HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GRADUATING 2027, SOME IN 2028/2030. SO IT WOULD BE A SLOW TRANSITION TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS MAKING INTO THOSE HOMES. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEY AGE OUT? WHERE DO THEY GO? UM, THEY HAVE TO FIND PLACEMENT IN A GROUP HOME. AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM.BUT THIS. IS A GOOD ONE. THEY DON'T AGE OUT OF THESE. THESE ARE LIFE HOMES.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY, THAT'S.
WHAT THEY AGE OUT OF THE THEIR SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER RESIDENCES BEFORE THAT. BUT THEN THIS IS WHERE THEY WOULD GO TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. UH, THERE, UH. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT, UM, GREENBERG RESIDENTS WOULD GET PREFERENCE? IS THAT ALLOWED BY STATE LAW WHERE, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, BECAUSE BECAUSE THEN IT BECOMES IF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KNOW THE RESIDENTS, THE FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS, THERE MIGHT BE MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THAT. RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED FOR.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS STATED THAT THE FAMILIES ARE NEARBY. SO IT WOULD SEEM THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO VERIFY.
LIKE IF YOU YEAH, IF YOU SAY, OH, THERE'S FOUR, THIS GROUP HOME IS GOING TO HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS AND ALL OF THEM ARE GREENBERG RESIDENTS. THEN IT WILL MAKE IT MUCH EASIER TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE IT'S THE NEIGHBORS LIVING THERE. AND THAT'S. WHY I.
I'M UNDER HOW OVER 80% OF THE INDIVIDUALS TO US, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY THAT TELLS US, UM, AND WE COULD LOOK AT THEIR FAMILIES AND SEE WHERE THEY LIVE NOW, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO OFFER THESE PLACEMENTS TO INDIVIDUALS IN GREENBERG ONLY, UM, I THINK WHEN THEY WHEN THEY SEND THE INFORMATION TO US, THEY SEND IT OVERALL, UM, FOR ALL OF US, CHESTER.
WESTCHESTER IS PRETTY BIG. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN TAKE AN HOUR AND CHANGE TO GET FROM ONE END OF WESTCHESTER TO THE OTHER. SO YOU KNOW THAT THERE, IN ORDER TO COMPORT WITH WHAT YOU'VE TOLD US, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF GEOGRAPHICAL, UM, PARAMETERS. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UM, REACH OUT TO, UH, THE LEADERSHIP OF YOUR AGENCY AND ASK IF THEY WOULD GIVE US, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE TIME. SO THIS WAY, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, YEAH. BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE I SORT OF. FEEL THAT WE JUST NEED TO LOOK INTO IF THAT'S ACTUALLY ALLOWED BY LAW. I'M NOT SEEING A PROVISION FOR AN EXTENSION. I WOULD NEED TO TAKE A FURTHER LOOK TO HAVE. IT RIGHT UNDER. MAYBE IF IT'S A MUTUAL, UM, MUTUAL CONCERN BECAUSE I LIKE, FIRST OF ALL, THE THIRD GROUP HOME. I KNOW NONE OF US KNEW ABOUT UNTIL A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND I JUST KNOW, LIKE WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS, LIKE, OBJECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONE GROUP HOME AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO, UH, TO, TO SELL IT WHEN YOU HAVE THREE.
PEOPLE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. IN THE PAST, WHEN THERE WERE GROUPS. WE'VE ALWAYS.
DID OKAY. AND MOST OF THE TIME I THINK THAT 99% OF THE TIME THE BOARD BASICALLY WAS WAS VERY OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, THE GROUP HOMES. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IF THERE'S THREE BEING PROPOSED, IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG AT THE SAME TIME, I, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS FROM THOSE GROUPS ARE GOING TO LAND UP, YOU KNOW, UH, SHOWING UP, THERE'LL BE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE TAX EXEMPTION, THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T PAY TAXES, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING SINGLED OUT, AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MUCH HARDER TO GET ANY GROUP HOMES APPROVED, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, OPPOSITION. AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, THE WAY THIS IS BEING, YOU KNOW, HANDLED IS MAKING IT TOUGHER TO GET COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE GROUP HOME.
WELL, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S THIS OTHER SALVATION ARMY, WHATEVER IT IS, RESIDENTS ON FROST ALREADY AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT A GROUP HOME.
IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WHO. WORKS.
BUT THE RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ONE INSTITUTIONAL TYPE THING ON FOR, YOU KNOW, SO.
AND ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT. ANOTHER ONE.
RIGHT. SO YEAH. SO WE KNOW WHAT WE THERE. YOU I THINK YOU'RE CLEAR ON OUR QUESTIONS. WHAT THE SOUTH STREET LOCATION ACTUALLY IS. IF IT IS INDEED IN GREENBERG OR IF IT'S IN ACTUALLY THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS. PLUS THE. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED OF THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE ONLY
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NOTIFIED OF TWO. QUESTION ONE. QUESTION TWO.ARE YOU ABLE TO LOOK IT UP THAT ADDRESS.
WE SENT ALL THREE PACKAGES IN. WHICH LOCATION? WE NEVER GET ONE. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ALL THREE.
UM, POSITIVE. YEAH. I SEARCHED BY ADDRESS.
WHAT IS THAT. THIRD ONE? UH, 199 SOUTH ROAD.
YES. 199191. I HAD 191. CORRECT.
NO. 1999. SORRY. 199. THANK YOU. SOUTH ROAD. YEAH. THE DATE OF THE LETTER IS 825. I THINK IT WAS CIRCULATED INTERNALLY. 910 I THINK THAT'S WHEN I FIRST SAW IT. YEAH. AND THEN I.
LOSE GARY, I, THEY HANDED, THEY SENT ONE OF THE FIRST LANE I SHE, SHE GOT IT. IT DIDN'T GO TO ME. SO I GOT IT JUST THE MIDDLE OF THE LAST WEEK. WHO GOT IT LIZ GARRITY. IT WENT BY THE MAILROOM, SENT IT TO HER. AND OCTOBER.
4TH WAS SIMPLY DATED OFF THE AUGUST 25TH.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IS THE THAT WE SHOULD.
THAT WAS THE DATE OF THE LETTER. IS THAT.
THE DATE? A OF THE LETTER? WE SHOULD REALLY TRY GETTING AN EXTENSION.
I THINK 910. WHEN WE ACTUALLY. RECEIVED THE LETTER, GOT NOTICE BECAUSE THEY SENT IT TO THE WRONG PLACE.
WHAT DID THEY ORIGINALLY SENATOR.? OH WELL, LIZ. YEAH. AND THE OTHER.
10603 YEAH. 19199 SOUTH ROAD. MAYBE.
YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, I ALSO THINK THAT IN WITH EVERY OTHER GROUP HOME THAT WAS PROPOSED, EVERY AGENCY, THEY WENT DOOR TO DOOR BEFORE UH, THEY REACHED OUT TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THERE'S BEEN VIRTUALLY NO OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF GROUP HOMES, THE, UH, WE HAVE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THEM IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT THAT WE HAVE, WITH EXCEPTION OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT FRANCIS HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVEN'T HAD, YOU KNOW, CRIME PROBLEMS FROM GROUP HOMES, WE HAVEN'T HAD MAJOR QUALITY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, SOME, SOME ISSUES. BUT THE THING IS, WE HAVE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT ABOUT THE GROUP HOMES AND HAVE THEM ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND YOU REALLY SHOULD BE GOING DOOR TO DOOR. UM, AND SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENTS ONE ON ONE AND EXPLAINING INDIVIDUALLY WHAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED AND WE'VE HAD IN THE TOWN IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE GROUP HOME HAVE ACTUALLY SUPPORTED IT. YOU HAVE TO WHEN THERE'S PROPER OUTREACH. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S OUT THE ROAD IS IT'S 199. YEAH. SO IT'S DEFINITELY US.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT IN THE TIMING, LIKE SOMETHING MAILED TO US IN LATE AUGUST, PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UM, OFTEN GET UNFORTUNATELY PUT ASIDE OR WHATEVER WHEN PEOPLE ARE AWAY.
AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT AN IDEAL TIME FOR SOMETHING WITH A SHORT TIMELINE. AND DATED FROM THE TIME THAT THE LETTER WAS DRAFTED. AND THE UNRELIABILITY OF US MAILS THAT THAT IT WOULD SEEM. HUH? MAILS. US MAIL OH SO RIGHT. IT WOULD SEEM THAT FOR NEW YORK STATE TO USE THE DATE THAT IT WAS WRITTEN NOT NECESSARILY SENT. IT, YOU KNOW, GIVES ME SOME PAUSE.
YEAH. WE'LL ASK AROUND AND TRY AND NAIL DOWN THE EARLIEST, UM, CIRCULATION OF RECEIPT FROM TOWN STAFF, WHICH I TEND TO BELIEVE IS PERHAPS 910 SEPTEMBER 10TH.
AND WE WOULD ALSO BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE NEIGHBORS AND, YOU KNOW, DO THE OUTREACH, LET THEM KNOW ABOUT US PERSONALLY. WE WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER. TO TO DO THAT. COULD WE WOULD YOU YOUR AGENCY AGREE? UM, YOU KNOW, TO SAY START THE CLOCK, SAY TODAY, UM, AND SEE IF WE COULD REACH OUT TO THE STATE AND SAY WE BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT, WE WE AGREE TO, A 40 DAY, YOU KNOW, TO AN EXTENSION. AND IT STARTS NOW. AND THEN WE COULD, UH, WE COULD DO THE OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CORRECTLY TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE ALL I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.
UM, I BUY, UH, 15 TIMES TO VERMONT TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE
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SPECIAL OLYMPICS AND WRC. I BELIEVE IN GROUP HOMES. I BASICALLY, UM, REALLY, UM, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THERE'S A NEED FOR THEM. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE I'VE HELPED PEOPLE GET JOBS WHO WHO LIVE IN GROUP HOMES. SO I REALLY WANT TO I WANT TO SO I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT, UH, I DON'T WANT I, YOU KNOW, I'M GIVING YOU ADVICE, NOT AS SOMEBODY WHO'S A CRITIC OF GROUP HOMES, BUT AS SOMEBODY WHO BASICALLY, UH, BELIEVES IN IT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THREE IMMEDIATE ONE TIME IS GOING TO GET PEOPLE RILED UP. AND THE SECOND IS, UM, THE PROXIMITY TO EXISTING, YOU KNOW, GROUP HOMES IN THE AREA IS, I THINK, A LEGITIMATE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RATHER LIKE, WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR AGENCY. UM, BECAUSE I DON'T TO BE HONEST, I FEEL BAD FOR MYSELF COMING OUT AGAINST THE GROUP HOME, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, A WAY WHERE WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WIN COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND AND HELP. I THINK THIS CAN BE A WORK IN PROGRESS. AND IF WE WORK TOGETHER AND IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.OPEN TO LOOKING INTO ANY OTHER PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY THE FROST. UM, LANE, ONE. , THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO CHECK ON TO CONFIRM THAT. UM, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ADVISABLE, WE COULD DEFINITELY BRING IT BACK TO OUR, UM, OUR LEADERSHIP TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S OKAY. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET LET'S LET THEM KNOW HOW THE CONVERSATION WENT AND THE ADVICE THAT IS BEING GIVEN TO US, BECAUSE WE DO WANT THIS TO BE A LONG TERM, UM, RELATIONSHIP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RECEIVED WELL. SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BRING THIS BACK TO, UM, TABLE. AND LIKE, YOU. KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH, MAYBE THEM UNDERSTANDING THE SENSITIVITY OF HAVING A LITTLE MORE PROXIMITY, A LITTLE LESS PROXIMITY BETWEEN THE.
YEAH. BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IT'S JUST GIVING REASON FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO BE UP IN ARMS AND OBJECTS.
SO WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.
WE ARE WE'RE IN WESTCHESTER. ARE YOU LOCATED RIGHT NOW? DO YOU HAVE ANY YOU HAVE. ONE LOCATION IN HARTSDALE? NO. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY GROUP HOMES IN WESTCHESTER? NO, WE DON'T HAVE GROUP HOMES IN WESTCHESTER. WE HAVE GROUP HOMES IN THE CITY AND QUEENS IN NEW YORK, UH, IN QUEENS AND BROOKLYN. WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY RESCUE AND CAN'T HAVE IN UM, IN WESTCHESTER.
SO OUR STAFF GO INTO THE FAMILY'S HOMES.
UH, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE ONLY HOMES. THERE'S THREE HOMES YOU'RE PROPOSING AND THEY'RE ALL IN GREENBERG OUT OF ALL OF WESTCHESTER? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.
WHY WOULD THAT BE? IF IT'S NOT? WELL, IT IS KIND OF LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A HOMES AND WORLD OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH MANAGEMENT NORMALLY COVERS A BIGGER CLUSTER. SO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF I SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PROGRAM IS NEARBY AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE THAT MANAGER WANTS TO DO SPOT CHECKS, IT JUST KIND OF IS EASIER FOR THEM TO COVER A FEW HOUSES. WE TYPICALLY WOULD IT WORK BEST FOR US WHEN THE HOUSES ARE KIND OF CLOSED? WELL, SIR, CERTAINLY IN QUEENS, IN NEW YORK CITY, EVERYTHING IS VERY PROXIMATE. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, IT'S HARDER TO GET FROM ONE TO THE OTHER WITHIN THE CITY FRAMEWORK. BUT HERE, GETTING IN A CAR AND DRIVING, UM, 5 OR 10 MINUTES TO THE NEXT COMMUNITY DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A A HUGE ASK BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PROXIMATE COMMUNITIES THAT TO HAVE THEM ALL CONCENTRATED IN. GREENBERG, I THINK, IS, IS A THINKING THAT IS CAN CAN BE LOOKED AT, LOOK AT GEOGRAPHICALLY WHAT THE THE PROXIMATE DISTANCES ARE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. ARE THEY. CLOSE TO PROGRAMMING ON CENTRAL AVENUE? IS THAT WHAT IT'S A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO PROGRAMMING. I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW SOME OF THE BIG PROGRAMS THAT ARE FOLKS ARE SO, UM, RIGHT. WELL, WE'RE ON SET, RIGHT. THERE ARE RIGHT. IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO CENTRAL AVENUE. SO WE DO TRY TO GET OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE NEARBY. UM, I DO CLOSE BY. UM, THERE'S A LINE I THAT PROVIDE STATE SERVICES. UM, THERE'S, UM, THE ARTICLE WEST CHESTER THAT ALSO PROVIDES DATA SERVICES, WHICH
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WOULD BE RELATIVELY, UM, IN A GOOD DISTANCE FROM THEM. UM, AND I THINK THAT OUR OFFICES ARE IN, IN, UH, HARTSDALE. UM, WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, UM, DATA SERVICES WILL BE COMING, UM, AS WELL INTO THAT LOCATION. UM, SO IT WOULD GIVE THEM THAT BALANCE WHERE THEIR HOMES ARE CLOSE TO THAT PROBLEM, AND THEY'RE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN TRANSPORTATION. UM, FOR THE INDIVIDUALS.OKAY. I THINK. WE'VE YEAH, YEAH, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A PRETTY CLEAR IDEA. UM, AND IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND CHECK OUT AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, UNLESS WE HAVE A MUTUAL AGREEMENT, WE COULD GET THE STATE. WE HAVE A WE MAY HAVE A DEADLINE WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WITHIN LIKE TWO WEEKS.
UM, MAYBE EVEN LESS ABOUT TWO WEEKS, I THINK TWO WEEKS FROM YESTERDAY. BUT WE DIDN'T GET NOTICE ON.
THAT'S RIGHT. BUT I'M NOT SURE I'M LOOKING CURRENTLY. I'M NOT SURE THERE IS A PROVISION TO EXTEND THAT. THERE'S JUST SOME JURISDICTIONAL ITEMS THAT THE PARTIES, EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY COULDN'T EXTEND. I'M LOOKING INTO IT FURTHER. IF THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, IF YOU'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST BEFORE AND YOU COULD POINT US TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE SERVICE WAS ACCURATE AS WELL. WELL, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, UH, MAYBE YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THE WHAT IS THE O M OR D. O D? YEAH, MAYBE YOU COULD. MAYBE WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO THEM AND ASK IF, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S TO EVERYBODY'S ADVANTAGE IF EVERYBODY'S WORKING TOGETHER AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE EVEN IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A DELAY AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE NOT AS CLOSE TO EXISTING GROUP HOMES, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD HAVE LESS, LESS OPPOSITION.
UM, AND PERHAPS IF, IF, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTRAINTS WE'RE UNDER NOW BECAUSE, UM, OUR IT APPEARS I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, OF COURSE, BUT IT APPEARS THAT WE DID NOT GET THE TRANSMISSION WITHIN, WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FROM WHEN IT WAS GENERATED. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN WITHDRAW THE REQUEST TO TO REFRAME BASED ON OUR CONSIDERATIONS. IS THAT POSSIBLE? THAT MIGHT BE WHERE WE WE MIGHT IF THE ONUS ISN'T ONLY ON US, IF THE ONUS IS ONLY ON US TO RESPOND OR NOT RESPOND WITHIN. NOW, THE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS, HOW BAD IF WE SHARE THIS IN WORKING TOGETHER AND YOU CAN WITHDRAW AND WE CAN RESUBMIT AFTER WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION. RIGHT. AND OR OR OR MAYBE WORK WITH YOU IN FINDING A BETTER LOCATION LIKE THE SOUTH ROAD.
WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE'S A GROUP HOME ON THAT, I BELIEVE, ON THAT STREET. UM, UH UH, UM, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MORE, YOU KNOW, CONTROVERSIAL, CONTROVERSIAL ONES BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ON THAT STREET ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TRUCKS AND THE VEHICLE ON THE VEHICLES. SO THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, WHAT'S AGGRAVATING ME IS I, AS I SAID BEFORE, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO VOTE AGAINST A GROUP HOME THAT PARTNERS. SO FOR ME, THIS IS LIKE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M, I LIKE I, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW ON ON THIS MATTER IF THERE'S A GROUP HOME A BLOCK ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU HAVE THREE COMING ALL AT THE SAME TIME, I COULD UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY CONCERNS. BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD PARTNERS TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS UP IN ARMS BECAUSE EACH OF THE LOCATIONS ARE PROXIMATE TO OTHER LOCATIONS, THEN THAT DOES NOT SERVE YOU WELL EITHER.
SO AND TO REMIND THE BOARD THE RESPONSE WITHIN THE 40 DAYS SHOULD BE EITHER TO APPROVE, TO OBJECT WHEN THE NATURE AND CHARACTER OF THE AREA WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED, OR AS SUPERVISOR FEINER WAS SUGGESTING, THAT YOU SUGGEST, ONE OR MORE SUITABLE SITES OTHER THAN THE ONES THAT THEY HAD PROVIDED. ANY OF THOSE THREE TYPES OF RESPONSES WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE WITHIN A 40 DAY PERIOD.
OKAY, RIGHT. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU COULD BE VOLUNTARILY LOOKING FOR OTHER LOCATIONS, AND YOU COULD WORK WITH THE TOWN STAFF AND SAY, OH, THERE'S NO GROUP HOME IN THIS LOCATION.
MAYBE THIS WOULD HAVE MORE. SUPPORT SET IT UP. YEAH, RIGHT.
SO I THINK THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE CAN AND
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HAVE TO DO AND THAT WE JUST NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER, JUST, UM, AS WE PURSUE THE OTHER STEPS. OKAY.AND TO HEAR BACK. FROM THAT AND YEAH, TO HEAR BACK WE CAN THAT'S. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP AT TOMORROW'S TOWN BOARD MEETING. SO THE THING IS, MAYBE YOU COULD BE AT THAT MEETING.
UH, IT'S TOMORROW AT 730 BECAUSE I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS TODAY FROM FROM PEOPLE. AND IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A HEARING, UH, NOT A HEARING, THERE'S GOING TO BE COMMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ANGRY THAT THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF OF THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD. AND YOU CAN ATTEND THAT REMOTELY. YOU CAN YOU CAN OKAY, IF YOU GO ON TO THE SITE, YOU'LL SEE. THE GROUP HOME, MAYBE ON NORTH ROAD ONE BLOCK OVER. IT'S ON NORTH ROAD.
I THINK IT'S ON NORTH ROAD. YEAH. IT'S, UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1686FT, 88 NORTH ROAD FROM 199 SOUTH ROAD. I BELIEVE THERE'S A FACILITY AT GRANADA WHICH IS MUCH CLOSER, UH, 250FT FROM THE 199 SOUTH ROAD.
AND THAT GROUP HOME WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT THERE WAS A GROUP HOME RIGHT IN THAT AREA THAT WAS REJECTED BY THE STATE BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE GROUP HOMES. THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THE TOWN EVER, UH, WON AN OBJECTION BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY. SO SHOULD WE MOVE ON? WE'VE I THINK WE'VE WE'VE PRETTY MUCH GOTTEN THROUGH EVERYTHING.
AND I THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT.
THANK YOU. SO YOU'LL BE HERE TOMORROW AT 730.
YES. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE.. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
DID WE ALREADY DO THE NEXT ITEM? YEAH. IF, UH, JOE, WE. THE LAW SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY PROPOSE THE THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A REALTOR, SO, UH, I MEAN, WOULDN'T IT BE SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY THEY SHOULD BE DOING IS COMING UP? WELL, IT WOULD BE JUST A SUGGESTION AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO LOOK INTO IF THAT SITE IS FEASIBLE OR NOT. NO, WE'VE HAD IT. IT'S BEEN VERBAL, BUT WE NEED TO PUT THAT PUT IT IN WRITING TO THEM. YES.
BUT THAT'S IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THEM TO VOLUNTARILY WITHDRAW THEIR SERVICE AND EXTEND THE TIME FOR YOU TO DO YOUR FURTHER. RESEARCH. WELL, WE'RE THAT WOULD BE FIRST AND FOREMOST. AND THEN THE.
COULD YOU MAYBE ASK THE STATE AGENT, YOU THAT OFFICE, UM, IF THEY COULD SEND SOMEBODY TO TOMORROW'S MEETING AND THEN THEY COULD JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STATE LAW IS. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE WE COULD LET THEM KNOW, UM, WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US HAVE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT STATE AGENCY, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THEIR INTEREST TO WORK WITH A TOWN THAT BASICALLY IS NOT, YOU KNOW, ANTAGONISTIC TO GROUP HOMES, BUT BASICALLY, ONCE A WEEK TO WORK, YOU KNOW, TO FIND ACCEPTABLE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LOCATIONS AND DO IT CORRECTLY. SO MAYBE YOU COULD INVITE THEM TO THE MEETING TOMORROW ALSO, BECAUSE THEN ALSO IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY COULD ASK THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE STATE. SURE, I'M GOING TO ASK SOMEONE ELSE TO TO SEEK THAT INFORMATION. YES.
THANK YOU. THANKS. CAN WE FIND OUT WHAT THAT SALVATION ARMY THING? WE HAVE ON ON FOR US? SURE. OKAY. CAN WE MOVE ON? OKAY. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. BEFORE WE DO THE AGENDA REVIEW, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE GRAND OPENING OF THE KING FOOD? BECAUSE I'D SAY BECAUSE I SAW THERE WAS AN INVITATION FOR OCTOBER 2ND AT 11 A.M.. BUT THEY HAD THESE SIGNS GOING UP. I SENT AN EMAIL, UM, SAYING THAT THE GRAND OPENING IS FROM OCTOBER 2ND THROUGH OCTOBER 4TH, WITH NO SPECIFIC TIME OR ANYTHING. AND SO WHAT EXACTLY? OKAY, SO I, I WENT THERE, UH, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, AND I SPOKE TO THE OWNER AND I SPOKE TO HIM, UM, I BELIEVE TODAY ALSO. UM, AND BASICALLY, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE GRAND OPENING A WEEK FROM FRIDAY AT 11:00.
UH. THAT'S OCTOBER 2ND. UM, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO. OH.
SO. YEAH, WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH FRANK MORABITO. HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, AND HE THINKS THAT THEY'RE. CONDITIONED ON THAT.
YEAH, THEY PUT THAT. WE WE PUT THAT ON THE SIGN SAYING IT'S CONDITIONED ON, YOU KNOW, ON ON THAT. BUT FRANK DOESN'T THINK
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THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, GETTING THE CFO. UM, THEY DO THE WORK. SO. RIGHT. AND I THINK WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM TODAY, THEY SAID THAT THEY EXPECT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WORK WILL BE DONE BY THURSDAY OR FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK, WHICH GIVES THEM A LITTLE EXTRA TIME. SO THEN WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY WANT TO HAVE, UM, BASICALLY LIKE THREE DAYS OF CELEBRATIONS AND, AND FOOD TASTINGS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SIDEWALK. UH, UM, SO. CAREFUL WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THAT STREET THAT WE'RE. NOT, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. NO, THE CHIEF I WANTED TO HAVE A TICKER TAPE PARADE, AND AND THE POLICE CHIEF DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BASICALLY. UM, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. SO IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE LIKE A LOW KEY RIBBON CUTTING ON THE FRIDAY. AND THEN, UH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE SUPERMARKET, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HELP PROMOTE IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS REALLY EXCITING IS THEY WANT TO SET UP A VOUCHER SYSTEM, UM, WHERE IF YOU BUY, I THINK, OVER $30 WORTH OF FOOD, YOU GET FREE PARKING. UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO THEN WORK WITH THE CHAMBER AND SEE IF WE COULD GET OTHER PARTICIPATING MERCHANTS ON THESE TASKS THAT WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE PARKING ISSUE SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, GOES AWAY. THE SUPERMARKET IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THERE LIKE A FEW TIMES AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WELL STOCKED. THE PRICES WILL BE SORT OF LIKE EQUIVALENT TO LIKE A SHOPRITE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A MORE AFFORDABLE. THEY ALSO INDICATED THAT IF THERE'S LIKE A LOCAL ICE CREAM STORE, UM, THEY'LL STOCK LOCAL, UM, UH, LOCAL FOOD PRODUCTS. SO I THINK THEY REALLY ARE GOING FULL FORCE AND THEY REALLY WANT TO, UH, BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE AVENUE. OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE ON. ARE WE UP TO AGENDA REVIEW? YEAH. OKAY. UM, I HAVE A.CONCERN. UM, ABOUT CD TWO. GARRETT. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE IS A PROGRAM THAT MIGHT BE WELL WORTH OUR CONSIDERATION. UM, I'D LIKE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT, IF WE MAY. CAN WE POSTPONE THAT? OF COURSE.
OKAY. SEE, ALL FOUR. I BELIEVE IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY 20, 24 AND 2025, RESPECTIVELY. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. AND CD THREE WILL CONDITION IT ON POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAFFIC SAFETY.
CD THREE. NO PD. CD THREE THE BANNER.
YEAH, I SAID CD THREE BEFORE AND WHEN I MEANT TO SAY CD TWO.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS. GONNA DO IT. BUT, UM, WITH WITH UH, SPECIAL PROTECTION COMMISSION. RIGHT.
WHICH IS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE HOLDING.
SO OKAY, WHAT I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. SO WHAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH CD TWO? WELL, I WAS MADE AWARE OF A PROGRAM, AND I'D LIKE TO LEARN THAT WOULD BE VERY COST EFFECTIVE AND VERY, VERY GOOD. USED BY THE CITY OF YONKERS.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S WORTH LEARNING SOME MORE ABOUT IT.
AND THEN GOING FORWARD, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BUT ALSO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, YOU SHOULD ALSO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION THAT YOU ALSO TALK TO, MAKE SURE IT TALKS TO ALL OF OUR OTHER SYSTEMS. BECAUSE REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE GO ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY.
AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT TO BE THE ONLY ONE HAVING THE CONVERSATION. AND AND THE LEARNING.
YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS MOVING AWAY FROM MUNICIPAL APPROACHES.
AS EXPANDING THE CITY SO THAT HE CAN USE IT AS WELL AS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. UNDERSTOOD. BUT THIS THIS IS OSTENSIBLY SOMEONE THAT CAN WORK WITH IT, BUT I HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT, IF I MAY, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT SOONER FOR ME TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT I DON'T, WHEN THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IS BETTER.
I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM CD ONE.
THE W5, THE UH, NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE SIDEWALK.
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SO YEAH. SO WE HELD IT OVER BECAUSE TERRENCE MURPHY NEEDED TIME TO GET ACCLIMATED FOR FOR FRANK. UM, AND I JUST ASKED LIZ IF THAT'S HAPPENED YET, AND SHE'S NOT SURE. SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN BE IF WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS WE HAD LAST TIME. AND TERENCE HAS NOT HAD ENOUGH TIME TO TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON IT.AND WE SHOULD HAVE TERRENCE, MAYBE AT THE MEETING TO AT A MEETING OR WORK SESSION. LOOKED AT IT. YEAH.
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING AT THE MEETING BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT? NO, I SAID, IF HE'S GOING TO BE REVIEWING IT, HE SHOULD BE OUT OF WORK. MAYBE NEXT WEEK'S WORK SESSION AND THEN COULD BASICALLY JUST, UH, EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. MAKE SURE THAT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY DELAYING THIS.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF, UH, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL ANYWAY. SO, UH, THIS WAY AT LEAST NOBODY COULD SAY THAT. I MEAN, THERE SHOULD BE SOMEBODY FROM ENGINEERING TALKING. TO US TO HAVE THAT MEETING AT THE NEXT, HAVE HIM COME TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION..
RIGHT. I MEAN, THE OTHER THING THAT YOU COULD DO, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN EXTENDED DELAY IS WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AFTER THE WORK SESSION.
I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SEE IT GET DONE.
NO, NO. OKAY. YOU WANT TO SEE IT GET DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION. BUT HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, HE'S JUST HAS A LOT ON HIS PLATE TOO. SO LET'S ASK HIM TO SEE IF HE CAN.
I AM. SO ARE WE DOING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH PD FIVE AND SIX? THAT'S.
I'M ASKING IF HE CAN DEFINITELY BE AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
BUT ARE WE HOLDING THOSE OVER? IF.
YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO. UNLESS WE COME UP. UNLESS UNLESS THEY CAN. UNLESS LIZ AND FRANK CAN CONFIRM THAT HE'S GOT HAD BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW IT AND CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WE WOULD, I GUESS, HAVE TO HOLD IT OVER.
SO WOULD THIS BE FRANK AND TERENCE? OH.
YEAH. WITH CD ONE, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO THE BOARD THAT I'M MEETING WITH, UM, RESIDENTS OF EAST IRVINGTON. UH, TOMORROW AT, UM, 330 A TEXTOR ROAD PARK.
UM, AND WE ALSO INVITED A VILLAGE OFFICIALS BECAUSE, UM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT FLOOD MITIGATION, YOU KNOW, FLOODING THERE. AND, UM, THE TOWN ENGINEERS HAVE SAID WE NEED, UM, TO GET, UM, YOU KNOW, TO BASICALLY GET THE SUPPORT OF THE VILLAGE BECAUSE THERE'S A POND IN EAST AND THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKED ON TO ADDRESS FLOODING. SO IT TALKS ABOUT 24 TREES IN THE VICINITY OF THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK WHERE THERE'S A STREAM. AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THERE MAY BE AN EASEMENT INVOLVED AS WELL.
UM, BUT THEY'RE ALL TO BENEFIT. UM, SOME FLOOD WORK.
THIS WAS RIGHT. WE BASICALLY REMOVED SOME TREES.
ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS A FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORT. UM, ACROSS FROM THE SIDEWALK. AND PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING THAT WE REMOVED TREES AND, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, BUSHES. UM, SO THIS IS AND WE PROMISED THAT WE WOULD, UM, RESTORE, RESTORE THE AREA. YEAH. IN TERMS OF VALUE, IT WAS JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE, UM, IT WAS A PROGRAM, WHEREAS ESSENTIALLY BUY ONE, GET ONE FREE.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S THE WORDING OF THIS. IT'S IN THE VICINITY OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND IF IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND WE'RE NOT DOING THIS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. RIGHT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S ALL RIGHT OF WAY. UM, BUT I'LL IF THERE'S AN EASEMENT COMPONENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, I WILL CHECK BACK WITH THE BOARD. I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE RIGHT NOW. SO DO YOU THINK THAT YOU GET THAT ANSWER BY TOMORROW NIGHT? FOR SURE.
WITH YOUR LIAISON REPORTS. WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW. ULTIMATELY, IF THERE'S BETTER LANGUAGE THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE RESERVOIR, I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD AND THEN COORDINATE THAT THROUGH.
HOLLY. IS THERE A KIND OF A MAP WHERE THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO GO? YES, THAT'D BE GREAT.
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WE'LL INCLUDE THAT AS A SUPPLEMENT.IN TERMS OF, UM, THESE TASKS AND THE SEWER PROJECT, I THOUGHT GINA DID A GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF THE SECOND REPORT THAT YOU DID. UM, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY IF THERE WOULD BE, LIKE, WEEKLY UPDATES ON THE STATUS OF, UM, OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVEN'T SEEN. THERE'S TIME. THERE'S PERIODS OF TIME WHEN PEOPLE SEE NOTHING HAPPENING ON THE STREET. AND I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE SAID, OH, YOU SING NOTHING BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR AN AD TO DO SOME WORK. UM, SO THESE FIVE DAYS THERE WAS NOT. THEN PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, WHY? YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND THEN NOBODY COULD BLAME US FOR FOR THE DELAYS. THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY WHEN PEOPLE DON'T SEE ANY WORK BEING DONE. OKAY.
YEAH. THE INTENTION WAS TO DO IT EVERY WEEK. BUT THEN BECAUSE OF THE NO BIG CONTROVERSY AND, UM, AND THEN THE LAWSUIT, UM, WE WERE ADVISED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY, IT'S BETTER NOT TO PUT OUT THINGS. IT'S LIKE POKING THE BEAR BECAUSE WE'RE SHOWING HOW WE CONTINUALLY MOVING FORWARD. WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE, UH, WITH OUR JET TRUCK THAT WE HAVE THREE JET TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, ONE JET TRUCK IS A $700,000. AND ALL THREE WERE DOWN. YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY WE PROBABLY GOT A LEMON OR A SERIES OF LEMONS. SO THAT DID SLOW US DOWN A LITTLE BIT. BUT I WHEN WE'RE PREPARING THE NEXT ONE ALREADY. I AM. YEAH. SO THERE'S ONE COMING.
RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT IF WE SAY THERE WERE THREE JET TRUCKS THAT WERE DOWN AND WE'D SAY THAT'S THE REASON, THEN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S VEHICLE PROBLEMS AND THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PROBLEMS WITH CONSTRUCTION. BUT AS LONG AS I KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE ON TOP OF IT. AND THERE'S EXPLANATIONS AND.
YEAH. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET AN UPDATE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE JUST. I'LL GO WITH THE FLOW.
SO I MOVE THERE. WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS I'D.
LIKE TO SEE. COULD I JUST ADD ALSO AND TO DISCUSS PENDING LITIGATION? DISCUSS PENDING LITIGATION? I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? I
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