Sep 23, 2026 Town Board - Regular

[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

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WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING. UH, TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 23RD. UM, AT 738. SORRY FOR THE DELAY. UM, WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of Judy Cheng-Hopkins, United Nations Assistant Secretary General for refugees. She dedicated her life to her family and her long career at the United Nations In memory of those around the world who have perished as victims of war, disease and natural disaster. Our hearts are with all who needlessly suffer.]

[ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk Lisa Maria Nero]

COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEHAN, PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON. PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN JOE HABER. JOY HABER. PRESENT.

COUNCILWOMAN ELLEN HENDRICKS. PRESENT.

AND DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AMANDA MANGANO. PRESENT.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE WHO WERE HERE BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, GROUP HOME. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE BECAUSE OF THE GROUP HOME, BECAUSE, UM, SO I'M WONDERING, UM, UH, SINCE WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE AGENCY, YOU KNOW, HERE, IF WE COULD, IF

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THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON ZOOM. RIGHT. YEAH.

JUST SOMETIMES. WE HAD A DISCUSSION YESTERDAY.

UM, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF GROUP HOMES AROUND THE TOWN, AND THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT, UH, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, ASK THE STATE FOR A HEARING WITHIN 40 DAYS FROM THE TIME A GROUP HOME, YOU KNOW, IS, UM, IS PROPOSED. UM, SO WE'RE UNDER SORT OF A TIME CLOCK. BUT DO YOU WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND AS TO WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE? THE BIG ISSUE IS NOT THE GROUP HOMES, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD HAS SUPPORTED GROUP HOMES. THE ISSUE THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE HAD WAS, UH, SATURATION BECAUSE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD RECEIVED WRITTEN NOTICE, UM, VERY RECENTLY ABOUT TWO GROUP HOMES, ONE, UM, ON GREENWOOD LANE, ANOTHER ON FOR US. AND THEN YESTERDAY WE LEARNED THAT THERE WAS A THIRD ONE. AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN NOTICE ABOUT THAT. UH, ON ON SOUTH ROAD AND THE GROUP, SOME OF THE GROUP HOMES ARE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN LIKE A BLOCK OR TWO FROM OTHER GROUP HOMES. SO THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING TO US.

SURE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. GREAT. SO MAYBE YOU COULD JUST

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WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TASHA BIGELOW. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR EHAB OF NEW YORK. UM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THREE COMMUNITY BASED, INDIVIDUALIZED RESIDENTIAL ALTERNATIVES WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG TO PROVIDE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. UM, THE INITIATIVE IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FACING YOUNG WITH YOUNG ADULTS AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT ARE MOVING FROM SCHOOL BASED RESIDENTIAL SETTINGS INTO THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE, UM, FOR, I'M SORRY, EACH PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS A FOUR BEDROOM, UM, UM, HOME AND WOULD OPERATE AS AN IRA. COMMONLY REFERRED TO WHAT WE WOULD REFER TO AS A GROUP HOME. UM, THESE HOMES ARE 24 HOUR STAFFING AND SUPERVISION. UM, THEY ARE TRAINED STAFF THAT WE, UM, PROVIDE THROUGHOUT THE DAY INTO THE 24 HOURS FOR EMERGENCIES, HEALTH AND SAFETY. UM, DAILY LIVING SKILLS. WE PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE, UM, SKILL SETS TO TEACH THEM HOW TO BE INDEPENDENT MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.

UM, WE HAVE WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1997. WE HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE CERTAIN UM, SERVICES IN QUEENS, BROOKLYN, UM, IN LONG ISLAND, IN NEW YORK. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO PROVIDE A SERVICES AND WE'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT COMES TO INDIVIDUAL SERVICES AS THEY COME OUT OF THEIR, UM, RESIDENTIAL SETTINGS. AND WE PROVIDE LIKE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE MODIFICATION PLANS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW TO GO TO PROGRAM DURING THE DAY THEY COME HOME.

WE TEACH SKILLS SUCH AS, LIKE WE ALL DO, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW TO COOK, COOKING SKILLS, LAUNDRY SKILLS. UM, AND JUST PROMOTING JUST DESIRED OUTCOMES THAT THEY WANT TO LEARN SKILL THAT THEY WANT TO LEARN. UM, WE I'M JUST LOOKING AT MY NOTES HERE. UM, SO WE THE RIGHT NOW, THE THE HOUSE LOCATIONS ARE THE ADDRESSES IS SEVEN PLUS LANE HARTSDALE, UM, NEW YORK. THE SECOND ONE IS 33 GREENWOOD LANE, WHITE PLAINS, NEW YORK, AND 199 SOUTH ROAD, WHITE PLAINS, NEW YORK.

WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN NOTICE ABOUT THE SOUTH ROAD.

YES, WE ARE VERIFYING, UM, THAT BECAUSE WE DID SEND THEM A CERTIFIED MAIL. SO WE JUST STILL SORT OF FIND THAT LAST, UM, POSTING TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE.

WHAT, YOU'RE GIVING US A POSTAL ADDRESS IS SO WHEN YOU SAY WHITE PLAINS, NEW YORK, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE IN WHITE.

THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS, IT MEANS THEY'RE STILL IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I HERE.

UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE SINCE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE, UM, WITH WITH QUESTIONS, MAYBE TO, UM, HAVE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS. YOU COULD COME UP AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU COULD ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND MAYBE YOU COULD IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ON THIS, MAYBE YOU COULD JUST GIVE THE TOWN CLERK YOUR, UM, YOUR NAME AND, UM, CONTACT INFORMATION, AND THEN WE'LL CALL YOU IN THE ORDER OF YOUR, UM, YOUR REQUEST, AND THEN YOU COULD ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK OR HAVE QUESTIONS? YOU COULD COME UP.

YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN. AND THEN JUST GIVE THE TOWN CLERK YOUR NAME. BUT YOU COULD YOU COULD START. SO THIS WAY WE DON'T HOLD EVERYBODY UP. ARE YOU A. BABY BOY? YES. YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE TOO MANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WANT TO INFORM THE BOARD. UM, A BIT MORE. OH, YES, A BIT MORE ABOUT FROST LANE ITSELF. UM, MY NAME IS KATIE BOGLE. I AM THE OWNER OF FIVE FROST LANE, UH, ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND, TIM. UM, MY THREE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND MY 11 DAY OLD SON. UM. THANK YOU.

UM, SO I AM HERE 11 DAYS POSTPARTUM BECAUSE I CAME HOME, RECEIVED THIS NOTIFICATION. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AS I SHARE A PROPERTY LINE WITH SEVEN FROST LANE. UM, I ALSO LIVED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM FOUR FROST LANE, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SALVATION ARMY. UM, IT HAS BEEN OWNED BY THE SALVATION ARMY SINCE 1998. AND, UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT A GROUP HOME, BUT IT'S INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK FOR THE SALVATION ARMY IN SOME CAPACITY. UM, BUT FROST LANE ITSELF IS A DOUBLE CUL DE SAC STREET. IT IS COMPRISED OF 20 HOUSES. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES ON THE STREET ARE OWNED EITHER BY YOUNG FAMILIES OR BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED

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UM, I WILL SAY FROST LANE IS VERY, VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, ABOUT 50% OF THE STREET IS REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO OUR STREET, TO POETS CORNER IN GENERAL. UM, BUT I KNOW ALMOST THE NAME OCCUPATION, CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. ALMOST EVERY HOUSE ON THIS STREET IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. IT IS A VERY, VERY CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY. UM, MY DAUGHTER IS VERY CLOSE FRIENDS WITH MANY OF THE CHILDREN ON THE STREET, AND, UM, THE PRIMARY CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, UM, WHEN TWO OF THE 20 HOUSES ON THE STREET. SO 10% OF OUR STREET ARE OWNED AND OPERATED NOT BY HUMAN BEINGS. ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, NOT BY INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, BUT ORGANIZATIONS. THAT DOES CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I THINK ABOUT THE 120 FOOT PINE TREE THAT SITS ON BOTH MY PROPERTY AND SEVEN FROST LANE. AND ONE DAY, IF THAT COMES DOWN, DAMAGES MY PROPERTY OR DAMAGES SEVEN FROST LANE. HAVING TO, UM, UH, WORK THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORLY ISSUE WITH A NONPROFIT INSTEAD OF AN ACTUAL NEIGHBOR IS CHALLENGING. I ALSO THINK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS. UM, IF THERE ARE MOBILITY VANS, IF THERE ARE, UM, CARS FOR STAFF, IF THERE ARE CARS FOR FAMILIES VISITING OFTEN, WHICH THEY'RE ENTITLED TO. UM, THAT CREATES AN ISSUE. WE DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS ON FROST LANE, SO OUR CHILDREN ARE OFTEN ON THEIR SCOOTERS AND BIKES IN THE STREET. WE HAVE A LOT OF DOG WALKERS. UM, AND SO TO CONSTANTLY HAVE TO COMBAT THAT TRAFFIC AS WELL AS WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR STREET IN PARTICULAR. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT, UH, WE LEARNED ABOUT LAST WEEK AND MOST OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, HERE ACTUALLY IS, IS VERY OPPOSED TO IT. UM, WE DO HAVE A PETITION SIGNED A. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS. THAT WAS TWO. THAT WAS A TWO MINUTE ROUND. SO THIS IS THE LIGHTNING ROUND. THE TWO MINUTE LIGHTNING ROUND. DID YOU ATTEND THIS? WE HAD.

NEVER REALLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE I DON'T.

YEAH. WE WE DIDN'T.

CLARIFY THAT FOR THE CLERK. HOW MANY MINUTES WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO. ALLOCATE OR.

HOW MANY MINUTES WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO ALLOCATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? WELL, I THINK THAT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT IF WE COULD DO A FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON. FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A. FIVE MINUTES.

PER PERSON, YOU GET THREE MORE MINUTES.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO FINISH WHAT YOU'RE READING. UM.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE ENTIRE PETITION. WE JUST PREPARED IT FOR THE BOARD. IT'S IT'S PRETTY MUCH LAYING OUT, UM, WHAT I'VE, I'VE SAID TODAY THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN OVERSATURATION, UM, ON FROST, BUT ALSO THERE IS AN ACTUAL GROUP HOME ON BURNS AS WELL, WHICH IS LESS THAN 1000FT FROM FROST LANE. UM, THESE ARE VERY, VERY GOOD PEOPLE WITH VERY GOOD HEARTS. IT IS NOT IN ANY ANIMOSITY IN ANY WAY TOWARDS THE MISSION OF THESE GROUPS OR THIS OR, UM, THIS GROUP IN PARTICULAR. IT'S SIMPLY THAT WE WE ARE WE ARE OVERSATURATED. THIS IS, UM, A COMMUNITY THAT LOVES, UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS, UM, INTACT AS WE CAN. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU HAVE GROUPS THAT AREN'T, UH, AS INVESTED IN THE LONG TERM, UH, PROSPERITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT DOES CHANGE THINGS. AND ALSO, UM, TO HEAR THAT THERE MIGHT BE NOW THREE GROUP HOMES IN GREENBURG THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAX EXEMPT AND THINKING ABOUT THE TAX BURDEN THAT'S NOW GOING TO BE PLACED ON ALL OTHER MEMBERS OF GREENBERG, UM, IS ESPECIALLY WHEN I THINK THE ONLY PROPOSED GROUP HOMES BY THIS GROUP ARE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, NOT YONKERS, NOT, UM, WHITE PLAINS. WHITE PLAINS, NOT, YOU KNOW, YORKTOWN. IT'S ONLY AFFECTING, UH, GREENBERG. THAT'S, I BELIEVE, UM, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS DID THE MATH TO THE TUNE OF $60,000 A YEAR IN TAX REVENUE. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE REDISTRIBUTED. THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN. UM, TO OUR, UH, TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. SO TO THOSE OF US ON FROST LANE IN PARTICULAR, UM, WE WOULD ACTUALLY SOME RESIDENTS EVEN PULLED LISTINGS, UM, IN IN YONKERS AND WHITE PLAINS AND OTHER TOWNS, LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE IS OPPOSED TO THE MISSION. IT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY WORTHWHILE MISSION. UM, BUT OUR STREET IN PARTICULAR, AND I THINK POET'S CORNER HAS, IS IS SATURATED AS IT IS. AND WE WOULD ASK THAT THEY LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR THESE PEOPLE. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. IS IT THIS. A LOT? FLAGS BECAUSE I CANNOT SEE THE CLUB. YEAH. THAT'S TRUE.

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BLOCK RIGHT THERE. ERICA.

THERE'S A. ALL RIGHT. WE WERE TRYING TO SHOW. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ON ZOOM. HIS NAME IS MARK TOBIAS. RESPOND. YEAH. SO AFTER THIS, AFTER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S MUTED. MARK, YOU ARE ON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME. YES. YES.

OH GREAT. UH. GOOD EVENING. UH, MR. FEINER AND TOWN BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS MARK TOBIAS, AND I'M A RESIDENT AT 42 GREENWOOD LANE. AND I HAVE LIVED AT THIS LOCATION FOR 46 YEARS. I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE TOWN ON SEPTEMBER 14TH INDICATING A PROPOSAL TO PLACE A GROUP HOME AT 33 GREENWOOD LANE, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

I'M A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER, AND I HAVE WORKED WITH THE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH FOR 46 YEARS. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SISTER AGENCY OPP, WHICH IS PART OF. I HAVE. I AM ALSO VERY FAMILIAR WITH GROUP HOMES AND THEIR OPERATION AND HAVE CLIENTS IN SUCH RESIDENCES. IN ADDITION, ONE OF MY PATIENTS IS A DIRECT SUPPORT STAFF CURRENTLY WORKING IN A GROUP HOME IN NEW ROCHELLE FOR WESTCHESTER JEWISH COMMUNITY SERVICES. MY CONCERNS FOR THIS GROUP OF 33 GREENWOOD LANE IS THAT NO COMMUNITY INPUT TO THIS DECISION BY REHAB WAS DONE FOR THIS PROJECT. PRIOR TO THE PROPOSAL. I VIEWED THE TOWN BOARD MEETING YESTERDAY AND LEARNED THAT HE HAD THIS PLANNING. THREE GROUPS HOMES IN GREENBERG. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MISS MORIAH, WHO IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FOR EHAB. ON TWO OCCASIONS ON 917 AND 923, WHICH WAS TODAY, AND I EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.

TRUTHFULLY, MY CONCERNS ARE THAT THIS LOCATION IS NOT SUITABLE FOR SAID GROUP HOME DUE TO MANY FACTORS. THE STREET UPON WHICH THIS HOME IS LOCATED IS VERY NARROW, AND THE DRIVEWAY TO THIS LOCATION DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR MORE THAN TWO VEHICLES. SHOULD EMERGENCY SERVICES NEED BE NEEDED, THIS WOULD CREATE A HINDRANCE FOR ACCESS TO THE HOME. ALSO INHERENT IN GROUP HOMES. DIRECT SUPPORT STAFF OFTEN SUFFER BURNOUT AT A HIGH LEVEL, AND MY PATIENT CURRENTLY WORKING FOR WJZ IS CONSIDERING LEAVING HER JOB FOR THAT VERY REASON. AS A RESULT, THERE IS A HIGH TURNOVER OF STAFF, WHICH IN AND OF ITSELF IS VERY TRAUMATIC FOR THE RESIDENTS. MY OTHER CONCERN AS ALL MY NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN TO NINE OF THEM SINCE RECEIVING THIS NOTICE, WHO LIVED NEXT DOOR AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPOSED HOME IS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE. WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AND DO NOT HAVE ANY ASSURANCES OR REFERENCES FROM EHAB ABOUT THERE. OTHER RESIDENTS IN THAT THE PROPERTY BEING MAINTAINED, IN KEEPING WITH THE EXISTING HOMES ON GREENWOOD LANE. SO IN CONCLUSION, BECAUSE I KNOW TIME IS LIMITED, I AM ASKING THE TOWN BOARD AND YOU HAVE TO WITHDRAW THE CURRENT APPLICATION TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND RESEARCH BY THE TOWN AS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO SO. ALSO, TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER COMMUNITY INPUT INTO THIS PROCESS. THIS IS TO ENSURE A GOOD FIT. FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS PROPOSED GROUP HOME AND ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY. I AM ALSO ASKING THAT OTHER LOCATIONS BE CONSIDERED WHICH WOULD BE BETTER SUITABLE IN PROVIDING GOOD QUALITY OF CARE FOR PEOPLE WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MISS BEGLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS IF A IF A DRIVEWAY ONLY CAN FIT TWO CARS? WE DON'T ALLOW PARKING OVERNIGHT. UH, IN THE WINTERTIME. IS THE PROPOSAL TO EXPAND THAT DRIVEWAY? AND IF SO, WOULD BARONESSES BE NEEDED? ARE THERE ACTUALLY PLANS FOR HOW THIS WOULD OPERATE WITH THE VEHICLES, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, UM, HELPING THE, UH,

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SO IF IT'S A TWO CAR DRIVEWAY AND I'M JUST TAKING THE GENTLEMAN'S WORD FOR THAT, IF IT'S A TWO CAR DRIVEWAY AND YOU HAVE A BAND FOR OR A SEDAN, EVEN, THEN YOU HAVE TWO VEHICLES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING UNLESS THEY CARPOOL, WHICH I DOUBT. UH, YOU NOW HAVE AN EXTRA CAR THAT CAN'T BE PARKED ON THE STREET IN THE WINTERTIME.

UM, IT SHOULD BE IT. BELIEVE THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE HAS MORE. IT FITS MORE THAN TWO CARS. IT'S MORE THAN A TWO CAR DRIVEWAY. OKAY, WELL, ANYWAY, UH, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK NEXT? OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE KAREN SOSO. GOOD EVENING. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. UH, IT CAME ABOUT VERY SUDDENLY. SO I, IN TURN, AM ALSO ASKING FOR WITHDRAWAL ON THIS APPLICATION. UM, I DO FEEL AS THOUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PARTICULARLY POETS CORNER, HAS BEEN SATURATED. UH, BURNS HAS A GROUP HOME. LONGFELLOW HAS A GROUP HOME. I MEAN, I'M USING THE TERM GROUP HOME, BUT I CAN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY WHO OWNS THEM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT. BUT LONGFELLOW, POE, BURNS AND HOLMES ALL DO. NOW, WE DO HAVE THE SALVATION ARMY HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. IN ADDITION TO. IT'S A VERY SMALL BLOCK. IT'S A REALLY TIGHT LITTLE COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES. WE HAVE AT THIS. I'VE LIVED THERE 22 YEARS NOW, AND THIS IS THE MOST THAT WE'VE EVER HAD. WE HAVE 16 CHILDREN UNDER TEN. A LOT OF THEM, EVEN UNDER FIVE ON THE BLOCK NOW. SO IT'S A VERY, UM, BEAUTIFUL, ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE ON THE STREET PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER AND INTERACTING. SOME CARS COME THROUGH TOO QUICKLY NOW AS IT IS, BUT ADDING MORE STRESS, TRAFFIC AND INTEREST TO THE BLOCK WOULDN'T BE BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY IS IT THAT IT'S ONLY GREENBERG THAT IS CONSIDERED EVERY SINGLE TIME A HOME IS LOOKED? I MEAN, I PULLED UP, WHICH I RESPECTFULLY WILL SUBMIT TO YOU. UM, THE PETITIONS AND I TOOK THE TIME TODAY TO LOOK UP HOUSING IN OTHER AREAS BECAUSE I WATCHED A MEETING LAST NIGHT AND THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EASY ACCESS AND BE IN A CENTRAL LOCATION. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YONKERS. IT'S IT'S A BIG CITY, WHITE PLAINS AS WELL.

SCARSDALE. THERE'S TARRYTOWN. I PULLED UP LISTINGS FOR HOUSES THAT ARE LARGER, MORE PARKING, MORE OUTDOOR SPACE THAT ARE LOWER IN PRICE FOR THE GOVERNMENT, AS WELL AS THE FACILITY. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD JUST ISN'T SUITABLE FOR ANOTHER HOME. I THINK IT JUST IS JUST TOO MUCH IN ONE AREA. AND I THINK OTHER CITIES SHOULD CONSIDER OPENING IN THE MARKET UP TO THAT. AND AS I SAID, I'VE SUBMITTED, I'M GOING TO SUBMIT TO YOU LISTINGS FROM ALL OVER WESTCHESTER AT PRICES FAIRLY UNDER WHAT THAT HOUSE IS BEING SOLD FOR, TENTATIVELY. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ED ROBINSON. GOOD EVENING. UH, I'M ED ROBINSON. I LIVE AT 25 GREENWOOD LANE, AND THAT IS

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THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE MICROPHONE. YES. HOW MANY CARS FIT IN THE DRIVEWAY ON THE PROPERTY? UM, I THINK TWO WILL FIT IN THE DRIVEWAY, BUT YOU CAN GO AROUND THE BACK OF THE HOUSE FROM THE DRIVEWAY AND MAYBE GET ANOTHER CAR IN THERE, BUT THAT IS.

THAT'S. IT. IS THAT PAVED? UH, YES. IT IS. OKAY.

IT IS PAVED. OKAY. AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 36 YEARS, AND, UM, I'VE SEEN A LOT. AND WE TAKE, AS MARK SAID, UH, WE TAKE PRIDE IN KEEPING OUR PROPERTIES UP. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JIM HENSON. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR FEINER. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. AMANDA, HOW ARE YOU? UM. UH, I WANT TO ECHO THE CONCERNS THAT MY NEIGHBOR, MARK TOBIAS RAISED. UH, WE HAVE CONCERNS.

UH, I'VE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH INTO THE COMPANY. WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. THEY HAVE HAD.

I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE THREE SITES, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU SAY WHICH ONE YOU'RE. TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 3033 GREENWOOD LANE, WHICH.

I THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WHEN THEY GET UP. I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. UM, AND THE DRIVEWAY IS A SINGLE LANE DRIVEWAY. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR EXPANSION. IT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE NEXT PROPERTY'S DRIVEWAY. UH, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE STAFFING. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW COMPLAINTS RAISED THAT HAVE JUST RECENTLY LOOKED FOUND ONLINE. UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE EDUCATION AND TRAINING OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDING THE CARE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED THEY NEED CARE AND THEY NEED NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. UH, YOU HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME. I HAD MY EYES DILATED TODAY. UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE THE STAFFING. ARE THEY. THERE FULL TIME? IS THERE A ROTATION? DO THEY WORK SHIFTS? ARE THEY DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT COME IN DIFFERENT DAYS? UM. WITH RESPECT TO THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED. DID THEY PROVIDE A MAPPING OF THE, UH, AREA? THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND LOCATIONS IN THE TOWN? NOT JUST GROUP HOMES, BUT OTHER OTHER AGENCIES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN LICENSED BY THE STATE FOR OTHER PURPOSES? UM, WITHIN A REASONABLE DISTANCE? UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING LAST NIGHT. WE WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT. WE JUST FOUND OUT. UH, WASN'T A NO, IT WASN'T IT.

WASN'T PUBLIC. IT WAS A WORK SESSION.

WORK SESSION? OKAY. AND WE GOT A SHORT NOTICE.

AS WELL. OKAY. WE WE ONLY GOT NOTICE FROM SUPERVISOR FEINER A FEW DAYS AGO ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. SO I WOULD JOIN IN THE REQUEST THAT, UH, THE APPLICATION BE WITHDRAWN AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESEARCH THIS AND DISCUSS IT AND HAVE INPUT FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

YEAH, I WROTE TO THE AGENCY, YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING, AND I SUGGESTED THAT, UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, I SAID THERE'S REALLY TWO CHOICES, TWO OPTIONS THAT I WOULD FIND. UM, ACCEPTABLE. ONE IS WITHDRAW. AND IF THEY WANT TO PURSUE THESE OPTIONS, THEN THEY COULD ALWAYS RESUBMIT AND GIVE US TIME TO REVIEW IT OR, UM, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE TOWN AND WE COULD WORK WITH THEM AND TRYING TO FIND OTHER LOCATIONS BECAUSE I

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THEY THEY WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME GIVEN, YOU KNOW, TAKE, YOU KNOW, DIALOGUE. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF JUST LIKE RUSHING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO, UM, REFERENCES OF THE EXISTING GROUP HOMES THAT THEY OPERATE, SEE IF THERE'S BEEN ANY PROBLEMS, UH, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO LIVE NEAR, UH, THEIR EXISTING, YOU KNOW, GROUP HOMES, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO REALLY HAVE TIME TO HAVE REALLY IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF WHAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND NOT JUST RUSH INTO THIS IN, IN A COUPLE OF DAYS WHERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SERVE THE THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED GROUP HOMES. SO FOR ME, EVEN BEING CRITICAL OF THIS IS IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE I, I REALLY BELIEVE IN THE CONCEPT OF GROUP HOMES, BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE AGENCY. AND THERE'S BEEN NO OUTREACH. AND I ALSO THINK THAT THERE THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONE GROUP HOME WITHIN A TWO BLOCK AREA.

WE WE ALL ARE SUPPORTIVE OF GROUP HOMES, BUT I THINK.

WHAT WE ARE MOST. CRITICAL OF IS THE PROCESS.

AND, UM, AND WITH THE STATE DOES AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THE ATTORNEY THIS, UM, THEY GIVE US 40 DAYS THAT 40 BUSINESS DAYS OR 40 DAYS TOTAL TO, UM, EITHER ACCEPT OR MAKE OBJECTIONS. IT'S 40 DAYS, OR 40 DAYS STRAIGHT. OKAY, SO IT DOES GIVE US VERY LITTLE TIME. AND AND THAT IS WHY I SUGGESTED LAST NIGHT THAT, UM, THAT IF THEY WOULD WITHDRAW, WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM NOT TO RESUBMIT, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE OTHER REASONS THAT AND OTHER CONCERNS WE HAVE. BUT, UM, IF THEY WOULD WORK WITH US AND RETHINK PERHAPS LOCATIONS, SOMETHING THAT, AS THE SUPERVISOR RECOMMENDED, UM, WE HELP THEM LOOK FOR OTHER PROPERTIES IN GREENBERG AND WE ALSO, UM, ASK THAT THEY CONSIDER PROPERTIES IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES FOR SOME OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED HERE.

YEAH, I'M WONDERING, SINCE WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AGENCY, YOU KNOW, BY ZOOM, IF WE COULD JUST ASK THEM THE QUESTION IF THEY WOULD BE RECEPTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITHDRAWING THIS APPLICATION, AND THEN WE COULD MEET AND AND WE COULD HAVE A DIALOGUE AND WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WE ALL WANT TO BE OPEN MINDED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY FEEL THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, THE TOWN AND, AND AND THE GROUP HOME. AND I FEEL THAT AS A, YOU KNOW, JUST A SIGN OF GOOD FAITH. IF YOU SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL WE'LL WITHDRAW. WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL SET UP SOME MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL DO THE REACH OUT, WE'LL DO THE DIALOGUE. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEN I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING HEARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT PEOPLE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, OPEN MINDED. AND IF YOU DID THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU WOULD WALK AWAY AND PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD REALLY FEEL MUCH BETTER ABOUT THIS WHOLE WHOLE PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER. YES. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ENTERING THIS RELATIONSHIP, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. UM, WE DO WANT TO JUST EXPRESS THAT WE ARE GOING PRETTY MUCH BY THE GUIDANCE OF OPCW. THEY ACTUALLY ADVISED US TO, UM, THEY GAVE THE SATURATION. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HELPED US WITH THE LOCATIONS. UM, THEY ALSO ADVISED US TO LOOK FOR THE HOMES NOW. SO IT MAY APPEAR THAT IT'S A RUSH, BUT IT REALLY ISN'T. WE THIS IS NOT A PROJECT THAT IS NOT SOUGHT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. UM, WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, SCREEN INDIVIDUALS. SO WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING HERE. EVERYONE'S HAPPY. AND, YOU KNOW, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO COME IN WHERE EVERYONE IS, YOU KNOW, NOT, UM, IN

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SO, UM, WE MAY HAVE TO JUST GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICES AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S CONCERN AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS. WE LIKE TO THINK THAT WHEN WE ARE ENTERING A COMMUNITY, WE'RE ALSO ALSO VERY PRIDEFUL OF OUR PROPERTY.

WE DO CARE ABOUT HOW THE INDIVIDUALS ARE PORTRAYED. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE FROM THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING TO HELP THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE THE EMPLOYEES ARE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES, UM, THAT MAY BE FOUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, SO I JUST I DID WANT TO SHARE THAT PART.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAD, UM, PAUL. YES. IF IT'S A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS OTHER LOCATIONS, THAT'S FINE. I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAD MENTIONED LAST NIGHT, YOU JUST HAVE TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW, PAIRED, UM, UP. UM, AND WITHDRAW. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD WORK. YEAH. I CAN BE PART OF A DISCUSSION WITH THEM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF THEY REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT LIKE A NIMBY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME LEGITIMATE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. AND WE BASICALLY WANT TO HAVE A EVERYBODY OPEN MINDED AND BE WE WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. AND THE TOWN BOARD HAS IN THE PAST SUPPORTED GROUP HOMES. AND WHEN THAT'S BEEN DONE CORRECTLY, UM, WE'VE EVEN HAD NEIGHBORHOODS. IN FACT, THE ONE IN PUBLIC CORNER I MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY SHOWED UP AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING AND SAID, WE SUPPORT THIS GROUP HOME. SO THEY WEREN'T AGAINST THE GROUP HOME, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY, UM, PARTICIPATION AND INVOLVEMENT.

AND THEY SAID, FINE. AND WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE BEING SO COOPERATIVE AND COLLABORATIVE. BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A RUSH FOR YOU, BUT IT IS FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND FOR US. SO IT IS A PROCESS. AS A SUPERVISOR HAS MENTIONED, THAT WE WOULD WANT VERY MUCH TO HAVE MORE TIME WITH TO ADJUST TO, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES BOTH WITHIN GREENBERG. AND IF YOU CONSIDER OTHER COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF GREENBERG. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE SATURATION, UM, COMING DOWN FROM OP ED, BECAUSE HOW IS THAT PHILOSOPHICALLY? WHAT WHAT IS THAT? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT, OR CAN THEY EXPLAIN WHY THEY WOULD BE SEEKING OUT A SATURATION? BECAUSE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD BE OBJECTIONABLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I HAVE A DAUGHTER WITH DISABILITIES. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HER IN A SMALL GROUP HOME IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I CAN ALSO APPRECIATE IT AS A NEIGHBOR. THE SATURATION. WHAT WOULD BE THE POSITIVES OF THAT IS THAT FOR THERE TO BE, UM, NEIGHBORS, FOR THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE HOMES TO INTERACT WITH, WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON FOR OTHER THAN THE THE CONVENIENCE YOU SAID FOR STAFF, WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON FOR HAVING THAT SATURATION? WELL, THAT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK EXACTLY WHAT MADE THEM CHOOSE THOSE LOCATIONS. BUT I DO KNOW THE IDEA IS FOR THEM TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND BE JUST, YOU KNOW, INCLUSIVE AMONGST NOT JUST OTHER INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. BUT, UM, HOW DO THEY INTEGRATE? SO, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WHAT MADE THEM PICK THOSE ACTUAL ZONES? UM, I COULD DEFINITELY ASK. I COULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO IT AND THAT WOULD HELP. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE TWO, TWO COMMENTS.

SO ONE BEING THAT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE, UM, WITHDRAWAL, THE TOWN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO IT WOULD BE ON YOUR END TO TO MAKE THE WITHDRAWAL APPLICATION. WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. PER THE STATE STATUTE. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE A CONTINUING QUESTION SEEMS TO BE IS, IS THE TYPE OF GROUP HOME PROPOSED, WHETHER IT'S, UM, FOR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS OR FOR THOSE POTENTIALLY, UM, COMING OUT OF A REHABILITATION FACILITY? UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A REOCCURRING QUESTION. UM, THEY ARE THE RESIDENTIAL HOME. SO THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE GRADUATING OUT OF A RESIDENTIAL, UM, FACILITY SO THAT THE CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES THAT ARE GOING INTO AN ADULT FACILITY.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. YEAH.

I MAKE TWO MORE QUICK POINTS. UH. WE DO HAVE A FAMILY THAT

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WE'VE HELPED THEM OUT WITH, UM, THEIR YARD WITH CLEANING.

THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD THEY'VE HAD ISSUES. THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS. BUT THAT SAID, ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS OF GREENWOOD LANE. WE'VE WE HAVE BEEN BURDENED WITH A LOT OF ISSUES BESIDES GROUP HOMES AND INCLUDING FLOODING. UH, EXCESSIVELY STEEP SLOPES, CAUSING PROBLEMS EVERYWHERE THAT AMANDA, UM, AND I JUST I'D JUST LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN, WHEN THIS WHOLE THING COMES TO A HEAD AND IF WE CAN WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER. THANKS VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUST TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, THE TOWN HAS NO AUTHORITY TO WITHDRAW THIS APPLICATION.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN. THE AGENCY CAN, BUT THE TOWN CANNOT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JOSEPH SORIA. YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE STILL OBSTRUCTING. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

GOOD EVENING, MR. FINER. TOWN BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY. UM, I WANT MY.

NAME IS JOE SORIA. I LIVE AT SIX FROST LANE.

MY HOUSE. IS THE HOUSE.

DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE SALVATION ARMY. AND I JUST WANT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WITH THE THE DISABILITIES. MY CONCERN IS SAFETY.

ACCESS TO THE STREET. OKAY. AND I'VE BEEN THERE WITH MY WIFE FOR 26 YEARS. I WANT TO SHARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXPERIENCES.

WHAT IT'S LIKE LIVING NEXT TO A SALVATION ARMY HOUSE. THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN INCIDENT A FEW YEARS AGO, PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WHERE IN THE AT THIS TIME, 7:00 AT NIGHT, MY WIFE STARTS TO SCREAM. SHE SAYS THERE'S A MAN TRYING TO GET INTO OUR HOUSE THROUGH THE BACK DOOR. IT'S AROUND 7:00. SHE OPENS UP THE DOOR. SHE HEARS SOMETHING JIGGLING OPEN THE DOOR IS A MAN'S STARING AT HER FACE. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF A MAN WAS STARING AT YOUR FACE? I GRABBED WHATEVER I COULD FIND IN MY HOUSE, RAN OUT THE FRONT DOOR, AND I SEE A GUY COMING AROUND MY DRIVEWAY AND I SCREAM LIKE, HELLO, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON MY PROPERTY? OH, I'M SORRY, I MEANT I MEANT TO GO TO THE SALVATION ARMY HOUSE. NOW, THE DOOR WAS LOCKED. HAD IT NOT BEEN LOCKED, THEY WOULD WALK.

THIS GENTLEMAN WOULD WALK RIGHT IN MY HOUSE. ANOTHER INCIDENT JUST LAST YEAR. I HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE THE CAMERA ON THE DOOR. I SEE SOMEBODY FROM THE SALVATION ARMY JIGGLING MY FRONT DOOR, BENDING, BENDING THE DOOR. SO. I JUST WANT TO SHARE WHAT THAT'S LIKE. OKAY, AGAIN, NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DISABILITIES. NOW, HOW DID THAT HOUSE EVEN BECOME FOR SALE? WE WERE THERE. THE COUPLE WHO HAD THAT HOUSE PREVIOUSLY. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS A HOUSE FIRE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY THEY THEY, YOU KNOW, PASSED AWAY IN THAT HOUSE FIRE. BUT THERE WAS NO ROOM ON THAT BLOCK FOR ANYBODY.

TAKE IT OUT. WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME, THE POLICE CAME. NONE OF US COULD LEAVE. WERE ON A CUL DE SAC. ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT. OKAY. NONE OF US COULD LEAVE. WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? TELL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. MOVE YOUR TRUCK. I HAVE TO GO TO WORK. OKAY. IT'S A VERY SMALL. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO FOREST LANE. IT'S A VERY SMALL BLOCK, YOU KNOW, UM, MY WIFE AND I USED TO BE THE YOUNG COUPLE ON THE BLOCK. WE'RE NO LONGER THE YOUNG COUPLE, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT THERE ARE ALL THESE YOUNG CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE BLOCK PLAYING. IT'S NOT. IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT, UM, AND I THINK TOGETHER WE SHOULD TRY TO FIND A MORE, YOU KNOW, SUITABLE LOCATION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HOME. UM, IT'S ALSO HARD TO BUILD TRUST, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS FAMILY, WITH THESE, YOU KNOW, THIS COMPANY. WHY AREN'T THEY HERE TONIGHT? THEY SHOULD BE HERE IF IT'S TOO MUCH OF AN INCONVENIENCE TO SHOW UP TO TOWN HALL. WELL, THEN WHAT IS THAT? HOW DOES THAT SPEAK TO IT GOING FORWARD? IF THERE'S AN ISSUE? I DON'T THINK THAT THIS NICE LADY OR WHOEVER IT IS THAT SHE WORKS FOR IS GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT EVEN HERE. IF THEY'RE NOT HERE, THEY'RE NOT COMING FOR ANYTHING

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UM, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER WE SHOULD ALL FIND A, YOU KNOW, MORE SUITABLE LOCATION, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM ALSO, THEY NEVER ADDRESSED HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE HOME. WE'VE HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT 14 PEOPLE IN A HOUSE. I HAVE THE SAME HOUSE. I WOULD LOVE TO FIT 14 PEOPLE IN MY HOUSE. THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. SO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT 14 PEOPLE IN THIS HOME, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW. I BELIEVE THEY SAID FOUR.

PEOPLE. FOUR PEOPLE. WE HEARD 14 AGAIN, HOW WE GOT THE 14, I DON'T KNOW, I WAS TOLD 14. I KNOW THEY SAY FOUR. THE LAW ALLOWS BETWEEN 4 AND 14. OKAY. SO THEY CAN HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 14 PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE LAW.

THEY HAVEN'T INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON PER RIGHT BEDROOM. AND THERE ARE FOUR BEDROOMS AND AND THE STAFF DO NOT STAY OVERNIGHT. SO THERE WILL NOT BE A FIFTH BEDROOM. WHO'S GOING TO BE WITH THEM OVER? YOU KNOW, CONCERN SHIFTS, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHIFTS AND PEOPLE COME AND GO. IT'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, ON A SMALL CUL DE SAC. YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THAT'S THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THEM. I THINK TOGETHER, ALL OF US, THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIND SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BETTER SUITED FOR THEM AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE BLOCK I LIVE ON. I CAN'T IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, ON MY BLOCK. WOW.

YEAH. COULD YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE SALVATION ARMY HOUSE? IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT LIVES THERE PERMANENTLY FROM THE SALVATION ARMY? AND THEY, THEY THEY ROTATE THROUGH. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THEY STAY. THERE'S FAMILIES. THEY STAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEY LEAVE. AND NOW, BECAUSE OF COURSE, THAT HAPPENS. I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME OR TWO SPEAKERS BEFORE ME, SOMETHING ABOUT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. I CAN TELL YOU. AND PLEASE COME BY AND SEE IT YOURSELF. OKAY. THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ON THE HOUSE IS HORRIFIC. THE SIDING IS COMING DOWN. THE HOUSE IS OLD, YOU KNOW, COVERED WITH DIRT AND MOSS. THE FENCE IN THE BACK HAS FALLEN DOWN SEVERAL TIMES. OKAY. THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM, IT RUNS IN FEBRUARY. THEY REPLACED IT SIX TIMES ALREADY, BUT THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING. AND I WAS SPEAKING TO ONE FAMILY. NOT THIS PARTICULAR FAMILY WHO LIVES NEXT TO ME MOST NOW. WE DON'T WE DON'T TALK AT ALL.

THEY TOLD ME THAT IT'S NOT MY HOUSE. I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT HAPPENS HERE. ARE THEY EMPLOYEES OF THE SALVATION? THEY ARE WHAT I WAS TOLD. THEY ARE EMPLOYEES OF SALVATION ARMY, RIGHT? CAN I? BUT THEY'RE TRANSIENT. CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. REALLY QUICKLY. UM, BEFORE WE BEFORE WE MOVE ON, AND I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS, UM, TO THE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY, SO I JUST WANT TO CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE LAW IS? SO WHAT? EVERYONE IS CLEAR AND EVERYONE IS CLEAR WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE I JUST I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THE TOWN YOU DIDN'T DO. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CLEAR ON WHERE OUR WHERE OUR ROLE IS AND WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. SURE. SO THE NEW YORK MENTAL HYGIENE LAW. IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK UP JUST A. LITTLE BIT, SPECIFIES WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE 40 DAYS TO REVIEW IT, AND YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS. YOU CAN APPROVE THE SITE RECOMMENDED BY THE SPONSORING AGENCY. YOU CAN SUGGEST ONE OR MORE SUITABLE SITES WITHIN. IT'S WITHIN THE TOWN'S JURISDICTION, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE SUCH A FACILITY. OR YOU CAN OBJECT TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A FACILITY OF THE KIND. UM, BECAUSE THEY DO SO WOULD CREATE A CONCENTRATION OF COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES FOR THE MENTALLY DISABLED IN THE TOWN OR IN THE AREA IN PROXIMITY TO THE SITE. SELECTED.

OKAY, SO THE 40, THE 40, I JUST SAW CLARITY. SO THE 40 DAY WHAT WAS THAT WAS THE 40 DAY STATUTE.

FROM THE TIME THE NOTICES SERVED ON THE TOWN SUPERVISOR.

AND THEN AFTER THAT 40 DAYS. SO IF THAT 40 DAYS EXPIRES, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? IS THAT AN AUTOMATIC YES.

OR IT'S AN AUTOMATIC APPROVAL. IF YOU DO NOT PICK ONE OF THOSE OTHER OPTIONS, OKAY. AND YOU SAID THEY COULD, THEY COULD PUT UP TO 14 PEOPLE IN THAT HOUSE. THAT'S THE LAW.

SO YES, IT'S FOR THE TYPE OF ACCOMMODATIONS FOR BETWEEN 4 AND 14 PERSONS. DEPENDING ON THE ACCOMMODATIONS. CORRECT. OR OKAY.

YOU CAN'T OVERCROWD SOMEWHERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH ACCOMMODATIONS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY HAVE FOUR BEDROOMS, I HAVE THE SAME HOUSE, BUT THERE'S A BIG FAMILY ROOM DOWNSTAIRS AND I COULD SEE THEM TURNING THAT BIG FAMILY ROOM DOWNSTAIRS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING BEDS OR BUNK BEDS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND HAVE UP TO 14 PEOPLE.

IT WOULD STILL NEED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF BUILDING CODE.

AND CLEARLY. BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID IT WAS 4 TO 14 AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UM. IF I MAY, YOU SAID MENTAL HEALTH, BUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES CAN HAVE MENTAL HEALTH, DISABILITY, DISABILITIES WITH MENTAL

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NO. THAT'S INTERESTING. YEAH. WELL, AND WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING LAST NIGHT, UM, THE AGENCY WAS EXPLAINING WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE WITH IT COULD BE A VARIETY OF SOME PHYSICAL DISABILITY AND SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, MENTAL DISABILITY. RIGHT. WELL, I WOULD JUST BE CONCERNED FOR MY SAFETY. AND I'M OLD. THE CHILDREN.

YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. I DON'T MEAN TO CUT. YOU OFF. THAT'S OKAY. I CAN TALK ALL NIGHT. IT'S OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JOSEPH PAVONE. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JOSEPH PAVONE. I'M AT 16 FROST LANE. UM, I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT 17. YEARS, I GUESS. AND, UM, AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, IT'S BEEN A LOVELY COMMUNITY. UM, GREAT PLACE TO BE. UM, AS SOME OF MY POINTS WILL BE REITERATED TO WHAT EVERYBODY SAID. BUT I JUST HAVE A FEW EXTRA COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS REALLY, ABOUT, UM, WHAT IS ENTAILED WHEN THEY TAKE OVER FACILITY LIKE THIS? CAN YOU PUT THEM UP A LITTLE BIT? IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. UM, SO AGAIN, AUGUST 25TH, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST OR PROPOSAL WENT OUT 40 DAYS TO RESPOND. PEOPLE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECEIVED IT AFTER SEPTEMBER 14TH. SO GIVEN THE COMPRESSED NATURE OF THE DISSEMINATION OF THE INFORMATION, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER THAT WE GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND OF THE WHAT THE PROPOSAL ENTAILS, AND THEREFORE NOT RUSH TO ANY KIND OF JUDGMENT ON A DECISION. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET AN EXTENSION, IF NOT THE WITHDRAWAL. UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, UH, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, WOULD BE FOUR PEOPLE IN THE FACILITY. I DID READ THE, UM, THE SOME OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS ON COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES, AND THEY CAN PUT IN UP TO 14 PEOPLE, WHETHER THAT HAPPENS IN THIS CASE AND WHETHER IT MEETS ZONING LAWS AND HOUSING LAWS IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE. BUT, UM, TODAY IT'S FOR TOMORROW. IT COULD BE 12 OR 14 OR TEN. UM, PEOPLE CHANGE, ADMINISTRATIONS CHANGE. SO THEREFORE THE THE USAGE COULD CHANGE AS WELL. UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, UM, WAS ALSO ON THE CREDENTIALS OF THE STAFF THAT WOULD BE THERE. UM, OBVIOUSLY THESE WOULD BE CLOSELY SUPERVISING THE RESIDENTS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY WELL TRAINED AND WE WOULD NEED TO LIKE THAT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT FROM, UH, EHAB. HOW WAS THE PROPERTY SELECTED? WHO WILL MAINTAIN IT? AND ARE THERE SPECIAL NEEDS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED TO PREPARE THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE GROUP? HOME RESIDENTS, SUCH AS LIGHTING, FENCING, RAMPS, GATES, UH, ANY PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT MAY NOT BE THERE. NOW THAT COULD NEED A VARIANCE OR OTHER APPURTENANCES TO THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. UM, AND ALL WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, AS THE LAW STATES, THE NATURE AND CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY. AND IF THAT CHANGES. SO IT'S A PRETTY TRANQUIL AND QUIET PLACE WOULD CHANGE JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION. UM, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, WE HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, ELDERLY. UM, IT'S UNCLEAR ON THE TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS THAT THE, UH, THE GROUP HOME RESIDENTS WILL NEED, AS WELL AS THEIR STAFF. UM, SO THE SAFETY, CONGESTION, NOISE LEVELS. AND AS SOMEBODY SAID, EMERGENCY INGRESS AND EGRESS WOULD BE A FACTOR. SO THE TOWN SHOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT ISSUE IN THEIR REVIEW. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, THE CONCENTRATION FACTOR. AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A KEY, KEY PART OF THIS, UH, SEVEN FOUR LANE WOULD, COULD BE EXCESSIVE IN THAT THERE'S ONE THAT WAS MENTIONED ON BURNS AVENUE, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, BUT SOMEBODY MENTIONED POE AND LONGFELLOW AND HOLMES AVENUE AS WELL. UH, SO CERTAINLY IF THOSE ARE, UH, GROUP HOMES, THAT WOULD ALSO BE, UH, CERTAINLY CONSIDERED A CONCENTRATION. AND, UM, IN REGARD TO, UH, FOR FROST LANE, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SALVATION ARMY, UH, FOR THE MLS, UH, INFORMATION THAT I HAD, UH, THEY ARE CONSIDERED A BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION, AND AS SUCH, THEY CAN BE USED FOR CHARITABLE, UH, SHELTERS OR HOMES AND THEREFORE, UH, COULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED A COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL FACILITY IN THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MAYBE NOT BE USED THAT WAY.

NOW, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR THAT. AND THEREFORE YOU GET TWO OUT OF 20 HOMES IN IN THE CUL DE SAC, WHICH BECOMES A 10%

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APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE WALTER SIMON.

GOOD EVENING. SUPERVISOR. THE FINER MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD. UH, I THINK THERE'S. TWO WITH THE TOWN BOARD.

WE'VE ALREADY IN SLIP. YOU WERE THE PLANNING BOARD.

OH. THAT'S RIGHT.

I WAS ON THE PLANNING BOARD. I'M NO LONGER ON THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT NEVERTHELESS, I MEAN, THERE ARE TWO DISTINCT ISSUES HERE. UH, AS MANY OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, UH, TALKED ABOUT, UH, UM. MAKING PROVISIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HANDICAPPED. I THINK THAT IS A SOCIAL OBLIGATION OF EVERYONE OF OUR SOCIETY. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD ALLOW PEOPLE WITH HANDICAP TO LIVE THE FULLEST LIFE THEY CAN, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND AND SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. AND IN FACT, I HAVE BEEN THROUGH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, WHO ARE HANDICAPPED. AND I SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN A GIVEN PEOPLE WITH HANDICAP. THE FULL ADVANTAGE OF SUPPORT SO THEY COULD LIVE THE FULLEST LIFE THAT THEY CAN. UH, SO AND I APPLAUD THE ORGANIZATION FOR THE WORK THEY'RE DOING. BUT THE KEY THING THAT COMES HERE AND, UH, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT, WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

WE TALKED ABOUT PARKING VARIANCE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING BETTER COMMUNICATIONS. BUT THAT'S MANAGEABLE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU YOU COULD WORK THAT OUT IS WORKED OUT ALL THE TIME IN THE BOARD AND, AND THE TOWN BOARD. SO THOSE ARE WORKABLE THINGS. THAT'S NOT REALLY AN OBJECTION. WE TALK ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL HERE. AGAIN WHEN YOU WHEN YOU APPROVE PROPERTY, UH, WHEN YOU APPROVE, UH, A PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S WORKABLE. UH, I USED TO LIVE RIGHT HERE IN JUNIPER HILL, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. THERE'S THE OLD, UH. ROY CAMPANELLA HOME. THAT'S BEEN A GROUP HOME FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS. 50 YEARS. UH, AND THAT GROUP HOME HAS NOT CREATE ANY, UH, CRIME, UH, ON JUNIPER HILL, NOR HAVE IT LOWERED THE TAX RATES ON JUNIPER HILL. SO ALTHOUGH THAT MIGHT BE A CONCERN, THERE'S NO DATA TO SUBSTANTIATE THAT. BUT THE COMMON THREAD THROUGH EVERYTHING IS CONCENTRATION. THAT'S THE KEY ISSUE. WHAT I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE PEOPLE HERE IS THAT THE KEY CONCERN.

THAT'S MY KEY CONCERN. AND THAT SHOULD BE YOUR KEY CONCERN THAT THE THE CAMPANELLA HOUSE THAT HAS WORKED VERY WELL FOR MANY YEARS, THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, THEY WANTED TO MAKE THAT A GROUP HOME. AND WHERE'S THE RESIDENTS OF JUNIPER HILL SUPPORTED AND WORKED WITH THE THE CAMPANELLA HOUSE, IN FACT, A MEMBER OF THE JUNIPER HILL UH CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE BROTHER, THAT WOMAN'S BROTHER WAS MENTALLY HANDICAPPED AND SHE SUPPORTED THE CAMPANELLA HOUSE, BUT CAME OUT STRONGLY ON THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO IT BECAUSE OF CONCENTRATION. HERE AGAIN,

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THANK YOU. OUR NEXT PERSON WILL BE HONORABLE JUDITH BOVILL.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. UH, I ECHO WALTER'S COMMENTS. UM, AS THE FORMER TOWN CLERK, I WAS HERE PRESENT AND UP FRONT DURING THE ENTIRE DEBATE AND DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THE GROUP HOME ON ON NORTH ROAD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S IN MY MY BACKYARD. UM, BACK DURING THE 90S, WHEN THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH, UH, FIRST, UM, INTRODUCED THE IDEA OF RTC RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTERS AND GROUP HOMES. UM, I WAS IN ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH, AND I WAS PART OF THE WHOLE DISCUSSION, THE WHOLE PROCESS LEADING UP TO THE CREATION OF OF THESE, UM, FACILITIES IN, IN ORGANIZATIONS, I MEAN, IN COMMUNITIES. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO GROUP HOMES. UH, I GREW UP AS A BIOLOGICAL CHILD IN A FAMILY. MY PARENTS TOOK IN OVER A HUNDRED FOSTER CHILDREN DURING THE 56 YEARS OF THEIR MARRIAGE. SO I GREW UP IN, IN A IN A FAMILY CULTURE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT, UM, EMBRACED TAKING CARE OF INDIVIDUALS. HOWEVER, HOWEVER, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SATURATION IN FAIRVIEW. NOW, FAIRVIEW IS DEFINED BY THE FAIRVIEW FIRE DISTRICT.

FAIRVIEW IS A VAST AREA WHICH INCLUDES PARKWAY HOMES, PARKWAY GARDENS, JUNIPER HILL ON UH, UM MAYFAIR ACRES, UH, MANHATTAN AVENUE, ALL IT'S A VAST AREA AND THERE ARE GROUP HOMES IN THIS AREA. WE HAVE TO RESIST SATURATION OF GROUP HOMES IN PARTICULAR COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE THEN IT BEGINS TO LOOK LIKE, OH, LET'S JUST DUMP IN BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. AND I AM SURE THAT THIS TOWN BOARD DOES NOT WANT THAT KIND OF MESSAGE TO BE PROMOTED BY RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE AS WE LOOK AT THIS, LET'S THINK ABOUT EQUITY.

LET'S THINK ABOUT EQUAL DISTRIBUTION. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SATURATION OR CONCENTRATION IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES. PLEASE DO

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IT WOULD BE DISCRIMINATORY. AND IT WOULD BE AGAINST THE BETTER JUDGMENT OF THIS BOARD. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE KAREN GADSON. TAP.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. AS HE SAID, MY NAME IS KAREN GADSON. AND I LIVE IN 35 SOUTH ROAD. SO I'M HERE, UH, TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROPOSED, UH, GROUP HOME AT 199 SOUTH ROAD. SO OUR, OUR MAIN OBJECTION AS EVERYBODY ELSE IN HERE HAS SAID IS ABOUT OVER CONCENTRATION. UH, THERE IS ALREADY ONE THAT EXISTS ON NORTH ROAD AND PROBABLY ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY FROM THAT WOULD BE THE NEW ONE AT 199 SOUTH ROAD.. I'M SORRY.

SEVERAL IN WINDOWS. OKAY. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT THESE TWO WOULD BE ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE APART. UH, ALSO, THERE ARE SOME, UM, COMPLIANCE ISSUES IN EXISTENCE AT THE ONE THAT EXISTS ON NORTH ROAD. UM, THEY WERE TOLD HOW LARGE THE CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY COULD BE IN FRONT OF THE, UH, IN FRONT OF THE HOME. AND THEY HAVE SINCE THEN ILLEGALLY WIDENED THAT CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY. AND BY THE WAY, WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, UH, PAUL ALERTED US YESTERDAY THAT, UH, THIS PROPOSAL WAS COMING AT 199 SOUTH ROAD. UH, ALSO, THEY ROUTINELY PARK, UH, MORE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAN IS LEGALLY ALLOWED IN THAT CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY. AND ALSO EARLY IN THE MORNING. AND I LIVE UP THE HILL FROM THE NEXT STREET OVER AND ALL THE WAY AT THE TOP OF THE HILL FROM THE ONE ON NORTH ROAD. BUT AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING I CAN HEAR THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES BACKING UP.

YOU KNOW, THE BEEP, BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP SOUND THAT IT MAKES.

AND WE CAN HEAR THAT AND IT'S AND IT'S QUITE DISTURBING. SO IN ADDITION TO THE, THE OVER CONCENTRATION, THERE ARE THESE ONGOING COMPLIANCE ISSUES WITH THE ONE THAT ALREADY EXISTS. SO WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING THE CURB APPEAL AND THE THE HOME VALUE OF OUR HOMES IN THE PARKWAY GARDEN AREAS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST. WANTED TO MENTION THAT IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE TIME, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UM, REACH OUT TO, UM, THE RESIDENTS IN GREENSBURG WHO LIVE NEAR EXISTING GROUP HOMES AND JUST SORT OF GET, UH, LEARN ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES, UM, YOU KNOW, AND JUST TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN VERY FEW COMPLAINTS OVER, OVER THE YEARS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE GOTTEN SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT, UH, THE NORTH, THE NORTH ROAD MORE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CAR IS NOT NOT ABOUT THE SAFETY ISSUES, BUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOISE. AND, UM, THE TRUCKS AND ALL THAT. AND I SORT OF THINK THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A QUESTIONNAIRE, SEND IT, SEND IT TO UM, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THEIR EXISTING GROUP HOMES, SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 40 OR 50 YEARS. FIND OUT WHAT SOME OF THE GREAT GOOD AGENCIES HAVE DONE. ALSO, LEARN WHAT HASN'T WORKED. AND THEN, UM, IF WE, YOU KNOW, GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND THERE'S GROUP HOMES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE, THEN WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND TO THE AGENCIES THAT THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY MAKE COMMITMENTS, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE IN OTHER AREAS HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, WON'T BE THE PROBLEMS WON'T, WON'T BE REPLICATED, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED ADDRESSING THOSE. SO AND I THINK IT ALSO WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE STATE LAW IS IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO OBJECT FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO SUCCESSFULLY OBJECT ONLY ON SATURATION. AND EVEN THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT. BUT I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE NEGATIVES. I'D LIKE TO GIVE PEOPLE A REALISTIC UNDERSTANDING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

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THIS AGENCY HAS HAS NOT, HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN COUNTY.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, IF YOU SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE ONE ON NORTH, YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR EARS BLOWN OUT. I'M SURE.

OKAY. NO, I KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN I'VE GOTTEN EMAILS OVER THE YEARS. VERY PROBLEMATIC.

RIGHT. AND SOME OF THE OTHER GROUP HOMES, I'VE GOTTEN ZERO COMPLAINTS OVER THE YEARS. IT'S ABOUT EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION, RIGHT? I'M SORRY. IF YOU COULD SPEAK WHEN YOU'RE AT THE TIME. YES.

OKAY. BUT THE BUT THE OTHER CONCENTRATION REALLY DOES CONCERN ME. I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, HONESTLY. WE'RE HEARING WE ALREADY HAD THESE RESPONSES OURSELVES LAST NIGHT WHEN WE MET WITH THEM. UM, WE WANT IT TO WORK, BUT IT CAN'T BE IN THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING BROACHED.

AND SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD IN A BETTER WAY. BUT WE HAVE OUR OTHER HEARINGS TO MOVE ON WITH AND EVERYTHING. DO WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK NOW? WE HAVE ONE. OH. ONE MORE..

STILL HAS A MINUTE AND A HALF. OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE AND A HALF? NO, I'M FINE, BUT THANK YOU.

UH, OUR LAST SPEAKER WILL BE MANNY OASIS.

YOU COULD. AFTER AMANDA. YOU COULD ASK THE QUESTION.

UM. HI.

THANK THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT. UM.

UM. SINCE WALTER SIMON BROUGHT THE, UH, JUNIPER HILL SITUATION UP, UM, I HAPPEN TO HAVE BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION. AND JUNIPER HILL.

AND I'M VERY AWARE OF THE CAMPANELLA HOUSE, UH, AS WELL AS THE EFFORT TO PUT ANOTHER ONE NEXT DOOR. UM, BUT I WANT TO BEFORE I PROCEED IN THE, UH, SOMETHING ELSE ON TOP. THE CAMPANELLA HOUSE IS A PARTICULARLY WELL SUITED FOR A GROUP HOME. UM, THE THE SETTING. HOW IS IT SETTING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? AND AND SURROUNDINGS? THAT DRIVEWAY, THE SPACE FOR CARS PARK, THE FAIRVIEW, UH, FAIR STREET IS ALSO A TWO WAY ROAD. IT'S NOT A CUL DE SAC. IT IS VERY EASY TO MOVE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS WITH FIRE TRUCKS AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES. SO COMPARING THE CAMPANELLA HOUSE AND NOT ONLY IN CONCENTRATION, BUT ALSO IN SETTING, IT'S NOT FAIR TO TO WHAT THESE OTHER OTHER FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE THE CAMPANELLA HOUSE HAS PARTICULARLY WELL SUITED FOR A GROUP HOME. OKAY, UM, THE NEXT PART IS, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING HERE, I'VE KIND OF NOTICED THAT, UH, THE TOWN BOARD IN THE TOWN DOESN'T KNOW WHERE ALL THESE GROUP HOMES ARE. I FIND IT VERY SURPRISING THAT YOU YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONCENTRATION, YOU SAY, WHERE IS THIS ONE? WHERE'S THAT ONE? THERE'S THIS ONE THERE. THERE'S TWO OVER THERE. I THINK IT IT'S NECESSARY. NECESSARY THAT WE DOCUMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE MAP WHERE ALL OF THEM ARE. BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THIS, THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OF FAIRVIEW HAS ALREADY SUFFERED FOR URBAN RENEWAL DESIGNATION. AND WE'VE HAD THINGS PUT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY COULD BE DONE BY ZONING. NOW WE WE GOT TO BE SURE THAT WE PROTECT IT JUST BECAUSE OUR HOMES ARE AND OUR REAL ESTATE IS CHEAPER, DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD BE LEFT ON UNGUARDED AND UNATTENDED.

FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PUT ALL KINDS OF FACILITIES BECAUSE THE PRICE IS RIGHT, IT IS NOT RIGHT. IT IS NOT RIGHT. AND I ASK THE TOWN BOARD TO MAP THESE WITH A HOUSING. AH, AND MAKE A POINT AND AN ARGUMENT TO WHOEVER THE AUTHORITY IS, THAT THE CONCENTRATION EXISTS HERE. AND I ASKED YOU TO SAY NO TO THESE THREE GROUP HOMES AND START THERE. THANK YOU.

YES. ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY NO. WE CAN SAY, PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S NOT THE LAW. THE LAW HASN'T. GOT A QUESTION.

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I WANT TO TO EXPERIENCE THE LAW, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. KAREN. SOSO. ROSLYN. UM, SO I CAN APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF TRYING TO GET TOGETHER WITH THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT AND SEE WHAT THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ABOUT. BUT WE DIDN'T GET THESE LETTERS ON FROST LANE, AND THEY WERE UNOFFICIAL LETTERS. IT WAS LIKE A DEAR NEIGHBOR. I ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN GET ONE. MY HUSBAND AND I, UM, I WAS GIVING IT TO MY NEIGHBORS ON THE BLOCK. BUT ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK THAT THE TIME TO HAVE A GET TO KNOW YOU, WE DON'T HAVE IT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE DEADLINE IS HERE AND IT'S WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, IF NOT NEXT WEEK. SO NOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU CAN'T WITHDRAW LEGALLY AND THEY DON'T WITHDRAW? DOES IT JUST PROCEED. YOU KNOW, WE CAN RAISE IT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE ANSWER, BUT THE ANSWER IS YES.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST. WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHEN WAS THE SUPERVISOR ACTUALLY SERVED? BECAUSE THE LETTER IS DATED, I THINK AUGUST 25TH. UH, BUT MANY ON THE BOARD, UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO.

YEAH, JUST DAYS AGO ON MY BOSS. RIGHT. AND SO THEY WERE HERE YESTERDAY FOR A WORK SESSION. UM, IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO SAY THAT. WHY AREN'T THEY HERE TONIGHT? IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. BUT WE DID MENTION TO THEM THAT WE WOULD LIKELY GET PEOPLE COMING OUT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, AND THEY AGREED TO BE ON ZOOM. I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT DOESN'T.

MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S LIKE WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THAT WINDOW CLOSING. UH, I'M ALL AWARE. I'M WELL AWARE. WELL, I THINK THE TOWN'S NOT GOING TO LET DEADLINE PASS WITHOUT TAKING ACTION. NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ZERO, YOU KNOW, ZERO ACTION. SO THEY'LL EITHER.

THE IDEAL THING WOULD BE FOR THEM TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. THEN WE COULD START THE PROCESS OVER THAT.

THAT WOULD BE THE BEST. THEN WE COULD HAVE MEETINGS AND WE COULD DO THE DUE DILIGENCE AND HAVE GIVE AND TAKE. BUT IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEN THE TOWN BOARD WOULD HAVE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AN ACT. WELL, WE POTENTIALLY HAVE A VERY GOOD CASE FOR A CONCENTRATION ISSUE. SO. WELL.

I MEAN, AS I SAID, UM, WE JUST GOT THIS INFORMATION SUITABILITY. BUT HOW WILL WE HEAR FROM YOU MOVING FORWARD? WELL, I'M, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GIVE ME THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES OR IF YOU GIVE IT TO THE TOWN CLERK, I'LL, WE'LL WE'LL REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY. I JUST HAD, YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER, UH, THOUGHT NOT A CONCENTRATION, UH, BUT SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE GROUP HOMES ARE TAX EXEMPT. AND I FEEL THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BEING PROPOSED IN WHITE PLAINS. IT'S NOT BEING PROPOSED IN YONKERS AND OTHER AREAS. I THINK WE SHOULD BE REACHING OUT TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE. AND, UM, AND THEY SHOULD INDICATE THAT IF A COMMUNITY HAS MORE, YOU KNOW, NOT FOR PROFITS OR, SAY, GROUP HOMES. UM, AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO, UM, HELP OUT, I THINK THE STATE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE HAS A LAW AND THE STATE SHOULD. I THINK, UM, UH, REIMBURSE LOCAL, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENTS FOR THE THE LOSS OF TAXES BECAUSE IT'S NOT THIS IS THEN IT BECOMES AN ISSUE OF, UM, THEN YOU'RE TAKING AWAY ONE OF THE MAJOR, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE. THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOSING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.. THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE CONCENTRATION. IT'S CONNECTED TO THAT BECAUSE THE CONCENTRATION IS TOO HIGH. THAT MEANS WE ARE LOSING MORE TAX REVENUE. SO IT'S ALL TIED TOGETHER. YES. AND OPPOSED IS A STATE. AND MY STATE. MY LAST ORGANIZATION AS A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER MYSELF FOR OVER 30 YEARS. UM, WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUCH PEOPLE THAT WOULD WORK IN THE HOUSE? LIKE WHAT EDUCATIONAL PROFILES DO THEY.

HAVE? SO THAT THAT IS YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THAT IS INFORMATION THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED. AND WE ARE THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY TIME TO ASK AND COME UP WITH THE ANSWERS FOR. AND THAT AND THE WAY IN WHICH IT WAS DONE DID NOT GIVE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE WE'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE IT WAS NEW TO US.

WHETHER THE LETTER WAS AUGUST 20TH 4TH OR SEPTEMBER 10TH OR WHATEVER. NONETHELESS, THERE AND IF IT'S BEEN IN PLANNING FOR AS LONG AS THEY SAY, THEN THAT IT SHOULD HAVE INCORPORATED COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS, I FEEL. SO WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT. YEAH, THEY CAME IN LIKE SO QUICK INTO THE NIGHT. ALSO A VERY BAD TIME OF THE YEAR TO COME IN AT THE END OF AUGUST WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AWAY. EXACTLY. BUT YOU CAME IN LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT, AND NONE OF US ARE AWARE OF IT. AND THEN WE'RE ON OURS TO A COUNTDOWN WITH NO INFORMATION. AND YET

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OKAY, WHEN WILL WE HEAR ABOUT THAT? UH, WELL, WE. WE JUST FOUND WE JUST GOT THIS INFORMATION LAST NIGHT. I THINK.

WE. HAVE A FAIR BEGINNING OF OCTOBER TO MAKE A DECISION. UNLESS THEY WITHDRAW.

IT'S THE 40 DAYS FROM THE DATE. SO DOES THAT CEASE THE 40 DAY COUNTDOWN? DOES THAT PAUSE IT? YES.

THEN IT PAUSES IT. AND THEN THERE'S A HEARING.

OKAY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A I DON'T KNOW IF. IT WAS AFTER. WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT A PAUSE.

IS THERE ONCE OR 40 DAYS. AND THAT CLOCK ENDS. WE.

WE. WE PUT IN A LETTER TO SAY THAT WE YOU. HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WITH 30 DAYS. OTHERWISE IT'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED FOR SITING. WE HAVE TO WE WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT. WITHIN THAT 40 DAYS.

CORRECT. 40 DAYS. THAT'S NOTHING. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE 40 DAYS IS 40 DAYS. AND WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO DO IN THE 40 DAYS.

I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND THE BOARD TO ARRIVE AT AMICABLE SITUATIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY WE APPRECIATE THE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE. AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PETITIONS SAY, BUT IF THE PETITIONS INCLUDE THE THAT INFORMATION AND THOSE CONCERNS, I WOULD ASK I WOULD WANT TO ASK THE ATTORNEY WHETHER IN RAISING OBJECTIONS TO THE STATE, WHETHER THOSE WOULD BE PART OF WHAT WE WOULD SUBMIT AS AS CONCERNS THE THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SATURATION, THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UM, IN SUITABILITY OF THIS OF THE STREET IN THE ONE CASE WHICH IS ONLY ONE LANE. UM, AND DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT, ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN INCLUDE WITH THE OBJECTIONS OR. NO. SO, YOU KNOW, OPTION TWO IS PROVIDING ALTERNATIVE SITES. SO IF YOUR ARGUMENT IS BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING A SUITABLE SITE, AND YOU WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN THE TOWN THAT MIGHT BE SUITABLY SITUATED FOR THIS TYPE OF USE, OR IF YOU'RE GOING THE ROUTE OF OVERSATURATION, CREATING A CONCENTRATION OF THESE TYPES OF USES, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.

BUT WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN OUR TOWN? AGAIN.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER ON THE SPOT. OKAY.

BUT WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. JUST I'M SORRY, BUT WHY WOULD IT HAVE TO BE CONCENTRATED BACK INTO OUR TOWN? YOU SAID WHY? WHY NOT SCARSDALE? BRONXVILLE. CHAPPAQUA? ARMONK. SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

I. YOU.

JUST SAID. WELL, YOU SAID NO, I'M SORRY, BUT SHE SAID, UM.

FOR SUITABILITY. YOU MEAN FOR THE SUITABILITY ASPECT? BUT WE'RE PROBABLY WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY USE A CONCENTRATION ONE. SO LET'S LET THIS PLAY OUT A LITTLE BIT, OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE'LL ALSO REACH OUT TO THE STATE AGENCY AND ASK IF, UH, THERE COULD BE LIKE A, SAY, THE GROUP HOME AGENCY WOULD VOLUNTARILY AGREE TO SAY A 40 DAY ADJOURNMENT. AND WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, 40 DAY POSTPONEMENT IF THE IF WE COULD REACH OUT TO THE STATE OFFICE AND SAY IF BOTH SIDES MUTUALLY AGREE TO, UH, TO A DELAY, UH, WITH, WOULD THEY FIND THAT ACCEPTABLE? MY GUT FEELING IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, RECEPTIVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE NEED MORE TIME. WE WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE AGENCY.

WE WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. UM, AND IF EVERYBODY AGREES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THE STATE WOULD SAY, THAT'S FINE. I WOULD SAY THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY AVAIL OURSELVES OF EVERY OPTION THAT WE CAN WITHIN THE LEGAL CONSTRAINTS OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO SEE WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. OUT TO THE STATE, LIKE TOMORROW, AND JUST ASK IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING, BECAUSE THE GROUP HOME AGENCY, THEN IT'S EASY FOR THEM. THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST SAYING, WILL YOU AGREE TO A 40 DAY? WE HAVE TO COMPILE A LOT OF OPTIONS. AND I THINK WE'RE PUTTING OUR TOWN ATTORNEY. I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A STATEMENT YOU HAVE PREPARED. PAUL AND I WILL, RIGHT, YOU KNOW, REVIEW IT AND CLEAN IT UP IF YOU'D LIKE, AND FORWARD IT OFF. BUT, UM, REACHING OUT DIRECTLY TO THE STATE WOULD BE, I BELIEVE, UH, NOT NOT AN APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION FOR MYSELF. QUITE FRANKLY, IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, I THINK THERE WAS ONLY ONE CASE WHERE AN AGENCY WITHDREW THE APPLICATION. AND IN THAT CASE WAS IN FAIRVIEW.

AND WHAT I WAS MUCH YOUNGER, ABOUT 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO, UH, BEFORE WE HAD, UH, PCS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT COULD ANALYZE DATA. I WENT THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT ROLLS AND DETERMINED THAT 40% OF THE ASSEMBLES IN FAIRVIEW WERE TAX

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IT MEANS IF YOU ADD UP ALL THE ASSESSABLE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF ALL THE PROPERTIES, TAKE THAT NUMBER. 40% OF THAT NUMBER WAS TAX EXEMPT. AND EVEN THOUGH THE LAW DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR IT, IT ONLY PROVIDES CLUSTERING OF GROUP HOMES, NOT CLUSTERING OF TAX EXEMPT. UH, THE AGENCY DECIDED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO BURDEN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY WITHDREW THE APPLICATION. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER TIME THEY'VE DONE THAT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AT THIS TIME. IT JUST MEANS THAT THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, UM, AND HOW LITTLE TIME THE LAW GIVES US, IT'S NOT EVEN BUSINESS DAYS. IT'S CALENDAR DAYS. UM, IT'S IT'S IT'S PROBLEMATIC. NOW WE'RE GOING TO I ASKED YESTERDAY ABOUT WHAT IS THEIR DEFINITION OF CLUSTER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPIN OUR WHEELS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT CLUSTER IS, AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND SAY, NO, THAT'S HOW HOW CLUSTER IS DEFINED. SO WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR DEFINITION OF CLUSTER IS SO THAT WE COULD HAVE OUR LEGAL TEAM TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S AN AGREEMENT THERE. UH, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIT OF WORK TO DO. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE POSSIBLE NEED FOR EXPANDING DRIVEWAYS, PARTICULARLY ENCROACHING ON SETBACKS, IF THAT'S WHAT'S NECESSARY. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY HAVE LOOKED THROUGH AND SEEN WHAT IS IT THEY REALLY NEED FOR THE PROPERTIES, AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING THE PROPERTIES. AND FRANKLY, YESTERDAY WHEN I ASKED, UM, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THREE PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE ALL IN GREENBERG UNINCORPORATED, GREENBERG. UM, I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT THAT OF ALL THE WESTCHESTER THREE PROPERTIES ARE BEING PROPOSED, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWN OF GREENBERG. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT QUALIFIES AS A CLUSTER, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. BUT BUT TO BE FAIR FOR THE BEHALF OF THE AGENCY, THEY ARE GETTING THEIR GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE STATE IS GUIDING THEM IN THE DIRECTION THAT THEY ARE, WHICH IS FOR CONCENTRATION. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. SO I FEEL A LITTLE BIT BADLY. THERE ARE NEW AGENCY TO WESTCHESTER. THEY ARE NOT PROBABLY AT ALL. THEY'RE PROBABLY TOTALLY BLINDSIDED BY ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE SUDDENLY COMING UP, AND I HOPE THAT THEY WILL DO THE RIGHT THING THOUGH, REGARDLESS. I THINK..

SIR, SIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. RULES JUST WENT OUT THE WINDOW.

THANK YOU AGAIN. I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE CLUSTERING. I DON'T THINK IT'S THEIR DEFINITION OR OUR DEFINITION. I THINK IT'S THE LEGAL DEFINITION.

IT'S A STATE. WELL, YES. IT'S THE STATE'S LEGAL DEFINITION.

YOU KNOW, LET'S SEE HOW THEY DEFINE CLUSTERING. DEFINING IT IN ONE DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. IT'S HOW THE STATE DEFINED IT.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I SAID WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. IT IS THAT OUR LEGAL TEAM. CAN LOOK AT CORRECTLY. RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT COUNTS. THANK YOU.

OKAY, OKAY. NEXT.

UH, NO MORE SPEAKERS. OKAY? OKAY. SO.

UH. I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY.

OH. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, MISS BIGELOW? UM, I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. WAS THAT. OH, I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR ANSWERS. OKAY. IN TERMS OF THE STAFF EDUCATION, UM, WE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF STAFFING FROM, UM, DSPS THAT ARE IN COLLEGE. UM, AND WE DO HAVE A CERTAIN CRITERIA IN TERMS OF, UM, WHAT SKILLS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE. SO THEY DO HAVE TO LEARN THINGS LIKE, UM, CPR. UM.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU AVOID THE ACRONYMS AND JUST TELL US WHAT THESE NAMES. OH.

DP VPNS, VPNS. YOU MENTIONED THE TYPE.

OF POSITION. SO YES. YES THAT'S CORRECT. SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS.

UM, THERE'S PRETTY MUCH A POSITION WHERE WE TEACH THEM HOW TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO INDIVIDUALS. AND IT IS A CERTIFICATION THAT THEY GET UNDER, UM, OUR AGENCY, WE ALSO HAVE UM, BEHAVIOR SPECIALISTS AND NURSES THAT PROVIDE 24 HOUR SUPPORT, WHICH ARE LICENSED NURSES AND LICENSED BEHAVIOR SPECIALISTS. WE ALSO HAVE OUR MANAGEMENT STAFF, AND, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ORDER TO WORK IN SUPERVISOR HOME. LIKE LIKE THIS. SO THOSE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EDUCATION, BUT IT IS A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT HAD A,

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BUT JUST FOR CLARITY, I'M SORRY, JUST FOR CLARITY. SO THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE TWO PERSONS THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE HOME IN THAT 24 HOUR PERIOD. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE 12 AND 12. I'M ASSUMING. SO IT WOULD BE FOR INDIVIDUALS.

AND THEN I MEAN, THE BEST CASE IS THAT WE ONLY NEED ONE STAFF.

UM, BUT IF WE DO NEED TO PUT IT ON THE STAFFING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS, UM, ARE SAFE, THAT THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED. UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, BUT THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS SAYING, LIKE, THERE WAS SOME EXPERIENCES IN THE COMMUNITY, WE, YOU KNOW, WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH, UM, OVERSIGHT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE INDIVIDUALS SO THAT THAT IS MINIMIZED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. CAN CAN I GET SOME CLARIFICATION TO, UM, YOU YOU NAMED ALL OF THE STAFF INVOLVED? UM, AND AVAILABLE 24 OVER SEVEN, BUT THEY'RE NOT ON SITE 24 OVER SEVEN. WHAT? AND CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE WHAT THE STAFFING ON SITE, UM, LEVEL OF EDUCATION.

REALLY? IDEALLY IT WOULD BE ONE PER SHIFT. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE IN THE EVENING AND ONE IN THE OVERNIGHT. AND DURING DURING THE DAY THEY GO TO PROGRAM. AND WHAT ARE THEIR WHAT ARE THEIR LEVEL OF QUALIFICATION. SO THEY WOULD THEIR THEIR REQUIREMENT WOULD BE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. UM, BUT A LOT OF OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY USUALLY KIND OF USE THIS JOB AS LIKE WITH THEY'RE IN SCHOOL OR WHY THEY'RE PURSUING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FURTHER IN THE FIELD.

BUT WHAT KIND OF TRAINING SPECIFIC TRAINING TO WORK WITH THIS POPULATION. DO THEY HAVE. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A CPR. UM, HOW TO PROVIDE UM, SERVICES THAT GIVE SUPPORT TO INDIVIDUALS. WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE. UM, HOW TO DO, UM, WHEN TO CALL FOR IF THERE WAS A SAFETY ISSUE AND EMERGENCY, HOW WE WOULD WANT THEM TO HANDLE ON THESE EMERGENCIES ON. THERE'S ALSO AN UPWARD MANDATED REGULATION TRAINING WHICH WE HAVE TO PROVIDE EVERY YEAR.

WHAT IS THAT? SO IT'S BASICALLY IT WOULD BE LIKE HOW TO FILE AN INCIDENT, HOW TO MANAGE AN INCIDENT, HOW TO ENSURE THAT THEY, THE INDIVIDUALS ARE LIVING, UM, AND. SO SO THESE ARE CASE MANAGERS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEIR CASE MANAGERS FOR THE RESIDENTS. THE.

UM, IT'S REALLY LIKE STAFF THAT WORKED IN THE HOME THAT PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT ON HOW TO LIVE AS INDEPENDENT AS POSSIBLE.

SO THEY'RE NOT SOCIAL WORKERS, THEY'RE NOT NURSES, THEY'RE NOT THEIR CREDENTIALS ARE. HIGH SCHOOL.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S SOUNDING A BIT LIKE THE YOU HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE ARE IN CASE THERE ARE INCIDENTS OR WHETHER IT'S HEALTH INCIDENT OR BEHAVIORAL INCIDENT, BUT NOT I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR INTERACTION TRAINING FOR INTERACTION WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE IN IN TERMS OF SUPPORTIVE CARE.

WE HAVE NURSES AND BEHAVIOR SPECIALISTS THAT ARE ON CALL AT THE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING. THERE'S A SITUATION THAT THEY'RE ON CALL TO HELP TRAIN THEM AND TELL THEM HOW TO HANDLE IT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THEIR TRAINING IS FOR SITUATIONS, QUOTE UNQUOTE SITUATIONS, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST THE DAY TO DAY INTERACTION. THE EMPATHETIC INTERACTION, THE KIND OF INTERACTION THAT PROMOTES TRUST AND THEREFORE.

SAFETY. AND DO THEY HAVE TRAINING IN THAT? YES, YES, THEY DO THAT. THOSE ARE MANDATORY STATE TRAININGS. PLUS WE HAVE, UM, EXTRA SUPPORT BECAUSE WE TRY TO PROMOTE PERSON CENTERED SERVICES. SO BASED ON HOW THAT UM, INDIVIDUAL BEST WAY TO SERVE THEM. SO WE ALSO PROVIDE A FREE PROGRAM SPECIFIC UM TRAINING AS WELL. OKAY.

CAN YOU GUARANTEE HOW MANY, UH, MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WILL BE IN ONE OF THESE RESIDENCES. IS IT. YOU SAID YESTERDAY, FOUR BEDROOMS, FOUR RESIDENTS. CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT THAT'S THE MOST IT WILL BE.

YES, YES. YOU CAN.

I CAN ALMOST SAY YES BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN. I MEAN, WE DO NOT WE DON'T HAVE HOMES. MOST OF OUR HOMES ARE AROUND THAT SIZE 3 TO 4 INDIVIDUALS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED THAT THEIR CONCERN THAT CAN BE UP TO

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YES. YES. OKAY. NO BUNK BEDS. NO TAKING THE, THE THE LIVING ROOM AND MAKING THAT INTO A, ANOTHER ROOM WITH, WITH BEDS IN IT. NOTHING LIKE THAT.

NO, NO. WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO LIKE THE, OUR STATE OVERSIGHT WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT ANYWAY. BUT NO.

SO IS THAT OUTLINED IN YOUR CONTRACT OR AS PART OF YOUR COMPLIANCE? AND WHAT IS IT OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT WITH OPD? IS THAT YOU MEAN.

SO IT'S SO BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES, THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IN A HOME IS THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN BE IN THE HOME. IS THAT OUTLINE SOMEWHERE? IT'S ONLY FOUR. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THAT IN WRITING. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THE CONTRACT BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT'S INCORRECT. BUT WE WILL BE. BUT PUT THAT IN WRITING. MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT REASSURES, UM, ON WHAT WE WOULD DO. WE WOULD BE FINE TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN WRITING. UM.

WHAT AND WHAT KIND OF DISABILITIES ARE WE TALKING.

ABOUT? ARE.

UM, SO. I'M SORRY. NO.

GO AHEAD. I, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY PHYSICAL DISABILITIES, MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL AND DISABILITIES, UM, DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

AND. SO THESE ARE TYPICAL INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IN TERMS OF, UM, THEIR COGNITIVE IT CAN BE PHYSICAL. UM, SOMETIMES IT COULD BE, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY ARE DEVELOPING AND HOW HOW THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, SKILLS OR INSTRUCTION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, IT'S NOT MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S NORMALLY SOMETHING THAT IS LONG TERM THAT THEY GET IT. YOU KNOW, THEY DIAGNOSED WITH IT AT AN EARLY AGE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THEY THEY KIND OF HAVE A SLOW WAY OF DEVELOPING THROUGH, THROUGH, UM.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GENETIC GENETIC ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT. YES, THAT THAT HAPPEN AT BIRTH OR THAT, THAT KIND OF THING. I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH, UM, MENTAL HEALTH OR PSYCHOSIS KIND OF CRISES AND THAT KIND OF THING. YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH SUICIDAL IDEATION. YOU'RE NOT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THE.

THE. CONCERN, UM, AND I THINK PERHAPS IT WAS, UM, COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN BROUGHT IT UP. WHAT KIND OF. UM.

YOU KNOW, LIKE RAMPS OR OR WORK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES IN THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT IS ONE CONSIDERATION IN THE WHOLE. UM.

FRAMEWORK. WE WOULD LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVEN MENTIONING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING NEXT YEAR. WE DON'T HAVE THE INDIVIDUALS SOLIDIFIED YET. UM, SO WITH, WITH SOMETHING LIKE A RAMP OR, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A FENCE, LIKE THIS ONE ALSO MENTIONED LIKE A FENCE. UM, THAT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY WHAT IT WOULD BE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE IT. THE INDIVIDUAL SOLIDIFIED RIGHT NOW. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY IF THAT WAS LIKE WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, THAT WOULD HELP THE NEIGHBORS FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT TYPE OF.

UM, I GUESS IT'S JUST THE POTENTIAL, JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT WOULD BE. SO MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESIDENTS FIGURED OUT THE INITIAL FOR RESIDENTS, BUT OF COURSE THAT WILL CHANGE OVER TIME. SO POTENTIALLY, YES, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME SOME EXTERIOR WORK, LIKE RAMPING.

RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE TOWN FOR THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MANY ICE CORES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO ALSO MAKE THAT BETTER, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT. THANK YOU. TASHA. ALL RIGHT.

SURE. OKAY. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

I'M SURE THAT. THERE WILL BE MORE QUESTIONS.

BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO. UM, REALLY JUST I THINK, UM, YOU ALSO EXPRESSED THE APOLOGY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T THERE TONIGHT. I DIDN'T, BUT I THINK YOU DID EXPLAIN IT TO US.

UM, AND EVEN THE COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND, AND, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE OUR NUMBERS, UM, ON SPEED DIAL. THEY CHECK IN WITH THEM. WE CALL THEM. WE. WE DO TAKE PRIDE IN HOW WE ARE NEIGHBORS IN THE PROGRAM. AND

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OKAY. UM, I KNOW YOU'D OFFERED PREVIOUSLY TO TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, UM, WITHDRAWAL PROCESS. I STILL THINK, GIVEN THE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE SUPERVISOR, THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF YOU COULD EXPLORE THE OPTIONS FOR WITHDRAWAL IF THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR A STAY THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUTLINED IN THE STATUTE. UM, AND LET US KNOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT JUST TO GIVE US SOME TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE. THAT. OKAY.

GRACE UNDER PRESSURE. ALL RIGHT.

[ TWO MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT LIGHTNING ROUND (for anyone who can’t stay for the regular Public Comment session)]

YEAH. LIGHTNING ROD. YEAH. HOW MANY PEOPLE SPEAKING.

ON THAT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE LAURIE BUFFALO. THIS IS A TWO MINUTE PORTION.

SO JUST TO CONFIRM THIS IS STARTING THE LIGHTNING ROUND TWO MINUTE COMMENT. YES.

AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH MEANS IF YOU SPEAK IT. WHICH MEANS IF YOU SPEAK AT THE TWO MINUTE, UM, COMMENT PERIOD, YOU CAN'T SPEAK AT THE FIVE MINUTE PART OR COMMENT PERIOD. OKAY.

SUPERVISOR FEINER AND TOWN BOARD, I'M LAURIE BUFFALO.

GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT FOLLOWING UP ABOUT THE ABSOLUTE AUCTIONS AND THE THREE AUCTIONS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE BY THE END OF 2026. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE OR HEARD ANY MENTION. I INVESTIGATED AND FOUND THE WEBSITE AND A DATE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO RESIDENTS. IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH THEM. I'D ALSO LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE AUCTION THAT DID OCCUR ON JULY 15TH. ABSOLUTE AUCTIONS MENTIONED THAT THREE OF NINE PROPERTIES DID RECEIVE BIDS. SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE SIX PROPERTIES THAT DID NOT RECEIVE THOSE? ANY BIDS? AND THIS MATTERS BECAUSE THE TOWN IS CARRYING $34 MILLION IN UNCOLLECTED TAXES AND TAXPAYERS ARE CARRYING AND COVERING THE COST OF THE SCHOOL AND FIRE DISTRICT TAXES ON THOSE PROPERTIES. THE TOWN DID SAY THAT WE WOULD BE CURRENT ON THESE LIENS IN THREE YEARS, AND THAT'S A LOT OF DEBT TO CARRY ALONG FOR THREE YEARS. UM, SO THERE WAS SOMETHING LAST NIGHT ALSO AT THE WORK SESSION MEETING THAT I FOUND BOTHERSOME. UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM A LOVELY WOMAN FROM THE HARMONY AND HERITAGE GROUP. UM, ASKING TO BECOME A GREENBERG COMMITTEE. AND, UH, IF SHE COULD GET A $3,000 BUDGET ON TOP OF DONATIONS. AND NORMALLY WE'D BE LIKE, YAY! THAT'S WONDERFUL. SOMETHING CULTURAL FOR US ALL TO SHARON AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I VALUE CULTURAL DIVERSITY. I'D BE GENUINELY HAPPY TO ATTEND THEIR EVENTS, BUT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE RESIDENTS. MANY ARE HERE. I'M GOING TO SPEAK LATER. UM, WHO ARE DEALING WITH UNRESOLVED FLOODING ISSUES THAT THE TOWN CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX. AND SO IN THIS CONTEXT, A $3,000, UM, NON NECESSITY BUDGET LINE ITEM IS SOMETHING THAT GETS PUNTED DOWN THE ROAD. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS. AND INSTEAD OF THE BOARD DEALING.

WITH IT. I JUST KNOW WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO IT. AFTER. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE DON ROYSTER. ROY. GOOD EVENING.

IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU REPEATED YOUR NAME.

SO. I'M.

DON ROY. UM.

NEIGHBORS, I'M. GOING TO USE A LITTLE.

BIT OF MY TIME. I WAS.

NOT HERE. I, I. AM NOT A.

NEIGHBOR OF YOURS ON FOREST, BUT I HOPE THAT YOUR.

PLIGHT GETS HEARD. UM, I THINK YOU ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. OKAY.

SO NOW I'LL USE MY TIME. I WOULD. REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE $35 MILLION IN UNPAID, COLLECTED PROPERTY TAXES IS BEING MANAGED. WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING? WHO IN THE. TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND

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TO GO. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? AFTER ALL THE PEOPLE SPEAK, THEN ANY BOARD MEMBER COULD RESPOND TO.

OKAY, IT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JEREMY HOPWOOD.

GOOD EVENING, JEREMY HOPWOOD. 145 JAMES STREET, VILLAGE OF HASTINGS. TOWN OF GREENBURG, NEW YORK. AND JUST BY WAY OF AN UPDATE, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING TO THE PROPOSAL FOR TAX RELIEF FOR VETERANS. UH, THAT, UH, ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL PURSUING, BOTH WITH YOU ALL AND ON THE VILLAGE LEVEL. AND BY WAY OF THAT, AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR GREATER COLLABORATION AND AWARENESS BETWEEN OUR VILLAGE GOVERNMENTS IN OUR AREA AND THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT THE TOWN, OF GREENSBURG GOVERNMENT DOES. I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN INCREASE COLLABORATION IN THE AREAS OF AFFORDABILITY, UH, IN THE AREAS OF PROTECTING OUR ELDERLY ON FIXED INCOMES, ON SUPPORTING VETERANS, ON HELPING YOUNG FAMILIES IN THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG AND IN ALL OF THE VILLAGES AND ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE HERE. UM, AS OF SOMEONE WHO IS A LONGTIME VILLAGE RESIDENT, I CAN SAY THAT THERE IS A LACK OF AWARENESS. THERE'S A LACK OF CONNECTION, THERE'S A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE AND TO BE INVOLVED. SO HOW CAN WE DO THIS? HOW CAN WE CREATE A PLATFORM, A VEHICLE FOR SOME CONNECTION BETWEEN ALL OF THESE ENTITIES? AND I THINK A GREAT IDEA WOULD BE AN OPEN AND INCLUSIVE, UH, TOWN HALL, UH, FORMAT, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN THE PAST, SOMETHING WHERE ALL OF YOU CAN SHARE YOUR VISION OF WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON. AND AT THE SAME TIME, HEAR FROM, UH, THE VILLAGES AND FROM NEIGHBORHOODS IN FAIRVIEW, UH, IN EDGEMONT AND ALL OF THE INCORPORATED AREAS. SO I, UH, AS WE WORK ON THIS ISSUE OF TAX RELIEF FOR VETERANS THAT WERE PRESENTING AT THE VILLAGE LEVEL, AS WELL AS PRESENTING HERE. JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THIS CONCEPT OF AN OPEN, INCLUSIVE, EQUITABLE TOWN HALL FORMAT AND PUT THAT IN YOUR HANDS AS AS AN IDEA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. GOOD TIME.

UM, NEXT SPEAKER, KATIE BOGLE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? NO. SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ERICA BAGCHI.

HAPPY YOM KIPPUR, THIS IS ERICA BAGCHI REPORTING FROM FAIRVIEW OR THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG. WESTCHESTER HAS THE WORD WE. IN IT. WE MEANS WE THE PEOPLE. BUT DO WE SEE THAT WE ARE SERVED MEANINGFULLY? DO WE SEE THAT OUR VOICES ARE HEARD WITH PASSION AND EMPATHY? IT'S OFTEN A BIG NO. THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD REALIZE THAT WE ARE YOUR EMPLOYERS SINCE WE PAY TAXES, AND WE ARE THE VOTERS WHO HAVE ELECTED YOU.

WHEN YOU SIT ON THAT CHAIR, YOU ENJOY YOUR SALARY, BONUS, MEDICAL BENEFITS, WHICH COME FROM OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY, AND SADLY, YOU FORGET US. THEN AGAIN, ANOTHER ELECTION CYCLE COMES WHEN YOU SEEK OUR SUPPORT. THEN YOU TALK ABOUT SOME ARBITRARY HELP AND ENTERTAINMENT TO PLEASE US SO THAT WE YOU CAN ENJOY TWO MORE YEARS OF YOUR AUTHORITY AND SALARY WITHOUT MUCH DILIGENCE. EASY MONEY IS ALWAYS HONEY.

SUMMER JAZZ OR VAPE OR PLAYLAND ARE ISSUES, BUT THERE ARE EVEN MORE CRUCIAL AND IMPORTANT PROBLEMS WHICH ARE BYPASSED OR

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WHAT DO YOU TRY TO PROVE? YOUR SMARTNESS, YOUR IQ OR YOUR SERVICE? UNINCORPORATED. GREENBERG ALONE HAS 40,000 VOTERS, SO IT'S YOUR DECISION WHETHER TO TRICK OR TREAT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE MICHELLE MOORE. SHE'S NOT HERE.

NO. UH, DIANA CHANG. HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DIANA CHANG. I AM A RESIDENT OF ALOMAR. UM, I'M ALSO THE MOTHER OF TWO YOUNG CHILDREN, AGES FOUR AND ONE. EVERY DAY. I DRIVE THEM DURING A LONG HILLSIDE AVENUE TO GET TO SCHOOL, DAYCARE, AND OUR DAILY ACTIVITIES. IN BALTIMORE ALONE, THERE ARE AT LEAST 20 FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN GOING TO KINDERGARTEN IN VIRGINIA ROAD AND UPKEEP AT THE HOLY NAME OF JESUS, NOT TO MENTION DOZENS OF OTHER FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN STILL IN NURSERY SCHOOL EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM BECAUSE TONIGHT IS A SCHOOL NIGHT, SO THEY'RE NOT HERE. I'M HERE TONIGHT SIMPLY TO ASK THE TOWN TO OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE KNOLLS. FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY, THE THE CONCERNS ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL. OUR COMMUNITY ALREADY EXPERIENCES FLOODING DURING FLASH FLOODS AND HEAVY RAIN. MY OWN BASEMENT HAS FLOODED SEVERAL TIMES. SOME OF IT IS BECAUSE OF MOTHER NATURE, BUT SOME OF SOME OF IT IS CAUSED BY THE NEGLIGENCE OF THE KNOLLS PROPERTY. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD TREES FALL FROM THE KNOLLS PROPERTY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING TREES THAT HAVE FALLEN INTO A NEIGHBOR'S YARD AND ON CARS PARKED ON THE STREET. AND HILLSIDE AVENUE IS ALREADY A ROAD WHERE AN ACCIDENT FALLEN TREE DOWNED POWER LINE FLOODING OR SEVERE WEATHER CAN CREATE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS FOR THE FAMILIES WHO DEPEND ON IT. AND I'VE SEEN ALL OF THIS HAVE HAPPENED, AT LEAST WITH MY OWN EYES. THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENT WE LIVE WITH TODAY. NOW IMAGINE ADDING A MAJOR EXPANSION ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, EMPLOYEES, VISITORS, DELIVERIES, CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, VEHICLES, AND YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY BEFORE THE KNOLLS IS ALLOWED TO BECOME BIGGER. I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THE EXISTING PROPERTY, INFRASTRUCTURE, LANDSCAPING, DRAINAGE AND ANY OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS OR MAINTENANCE CONCERNS FULLY ADDRESSED. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT APPROVING THIS EXPANSION MEANS FOR THE FUTURE. ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE IS APPROVED, WE CANNOT EASILY TAKE IT BACK. AND ONCE WE ALLOW A LARGE INSTITUTIONAL, INSTITUTIONAL INSTITUTIONAL FOOTPRINT NEXT TO OUR HOMES, IT BECOMES MUCH HARDER TO PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE YEARS AHEAD. YOU SPOKE ABOUT CONCENTRATION FOR THOSE GROUP HOMES. IMAGINE THAT THIS IS MARKET ALLOWS IT TO BE THIS BIG. SO MY QUESTION IS VERY SIMPLE. PLEASE SAY NO TO THIS EXPANSION. PLEASE PRIORITIZE ADDRESSING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AT THE KNOLLS BEFORE ALLOWING THE PROPERTY TO BECOME LARGER. AND PLEASE CONSIDER THE FAMILIES WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE AND DEPEND ON THESE ROADS AND THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE THOMAS FORD. UH, HUGH SCHWARTZ. GOOD EVENING.

EVERYBODY. UM, ON AUGUST. 20TH.

UH, A FOIL WAS, UH, FILED BY MYSELF AND, UH, BY GARY RAPOPORT ASKING FOR A VIDEO RELATED TO A CONFLICT THAT HAPPENED OUTSIDE THIS BUILDING ON AUGUST 4TH BETWEEN A COUNCIL PERSON AND A MEMBER OF THE GREENBERG STAFF. IT HAS BEEN PROMISED TO BE RELEASED NOW ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. AND AS OF TONIGHT, STILL HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED. UM, AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO RELEASE IT ILLEGALLY. YOU HAVE TILL SEPTEMBER 30TH TO DO IT, BUT THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO RELEASE THIS VIDEO. IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE TO YOU TO RELEASE, UH, SINCE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT INCIDENT. MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT IS THE PROCEDURE THAT HAS BEEN FOLLOWED IN A CASE LIKE THIS. THIS IS A PERSONNEL ISSUE, WHICH IS WHY I'M NOT NAMING NAMES HERE. I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE NAMED, BUT I DID ASK AND GOT NO RESPONSE AS TO HOW IT'S BEEN HANDLED INTERNALLY, BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE A PROCEDURE WHICH IS TRANSPARENT OF HOW THESE KINDS OF ISSUES HAVE BEEN HANDLED.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE. I DON'T HAVE ANY ASSURANCE THAT

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AND HAS BEEN PROMISED TO ME, HAS BEEN I WANT ASSURANCES THAT THE VIDEO I GET IS THE VIDEO THAT WAS SHOT WITHOUT ANY CHANGES TO IT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE A PARTICULAR PROCEDURE.

UH, BE OUTLINED AS TO HOW THIS IS BEING HANDLED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT, NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE, UH, MISTER SIMON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO OR. FIVE MINUTES? OH, YOU CHECKED OFF BOTH TWO. TWO. UH. THANK YOU. I, I WON'T USE ANY OF MY TIME TO REPEAT WHAT MISTER SCHWARTZ SAYS. JUST SAID I TOTALLY, UH, IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I WOULD I DO WOULD LIKE TO TO NOTE THAT I APPRECIATE THE CHANGE OF THE TONE OF THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS, EVEN THOUGH THE ISSUES STILL HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. UH, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE OCCASIONS. THIS IS MY THIRD TIME TALKING ABOUT THE VIDEO. THE FIRST TIME I SAID, WE KNOW THIS IS A STRESSFUL JOB AND PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKE. I SAID, ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS TO SAY, HEY, WHAT WAS THE MOMENT I MADE A MISTAKE? I APOLOGIZE FOR IT AND JUST MOVE ON. AND THE WHOLE THING WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER WITH. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I CAME. THE SECOND TIME I CAME AND I SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON? WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BACK. AND I GIVE THE IMPRESSION OF A COVER UP. AND WHAT DID AND WHAT HAPPENED. YOU ENGAGE IN A COVER UP, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN JUST RELEASING THE TAPES AND JUST PUTTING THE WHOLE THING TO AN END. WE WENT THROUGH ALL SORTS OF GYRATIONS OF WHY THAT CAN'T BE DONE. DO YOU HAVE THE ABSURDITY OF THE OF THE THE CLERK TOWN CLERK SAYING THAT SHE'S THREATENED AND NEED PROTECTION BECAUSE SOMEONE IS ASKING, INSISTING UPON THE RELEASE OF THE TAPE? I WOULD HOPE THAT MR. SCHWARTZ COMMENTS TONIGHT OR MY COMMENTS TONIGHT IS NOT INTERPRETED AS A THREAT AGAINST ANY MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE. DELILAH. TROY. DELIA. DELILAH. TROY.

GOOD EVENING. TOWN SUPERVISOR PAUL FEINER, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING TRANSPARENT. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE AROUND FOR 35 YEARS. LIKE I'LL FORGIVE ME. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. GOOD EVENING. BOARD MEMBERS. I HAVE A TWO PART QUESTION WHICH ARE NOT RELATED. FIRST, WHY HAS THERE BEEN SO LITTLE TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THE WORK ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE? IT IS REALLY CONCERNING. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE ASKED THIS, AND STILL NOTHING. THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THIS AFTERNOON I SAW ABSOLUTELY NO ONE WORKING THERE. WHAT IS GOING ON? I THINK YOU NEED TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE. A LOT OF MONEY HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS PROJECT AND NOTHING HAS BEEN FULFILLED. YOU SAID WE'RE HOPING TO FULFILL THIS BY THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. HERE WE ARE, THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. NOTHING HAS BEEN FULFILLED. CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S QUESTION ONE. AND THIS QUESTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. IT HAS TO DO WITH WALKING AROUND AND SMELLING MARIJUANA EVERYWHERE. OKAY, I WALK AROUND EVERYWHERE. I SMELL MARIJUANA.

IF DRINKING ALCOHOL IN PUBLIC IS NOT ALLOWED. WHY ARE PEOPLE TO SMOKE MARIJUANA IN PUBLIC? IT'S REALLY CONCERNING. PUBLIC SPACES SHOULD BE ENJOYABLE FOR EVERYONE. I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO SMELL IT. I DON'T WANT TO SMELL CIGARETTES EITHER, BUT THIS IS. IF YOU CAN'T DRINK IN PUBLIC, WHY CAN'T WE SMOKE

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NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE DAVID SLOAN. THANK YOU.

DAVID SLOAN. UM.

WALTER ACTUALLY MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT I HAVE SCRIPTED ALREADY IS THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST TIME THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS TREATED EVERYBODY ON THE TOWN, UP ON THE DAIS. WITH RESPECT.

YOU GUYS. REALLY? THIS IS HOW YOU GUYS SHOULD WORK ALL THE TIME, AT LEAST IN FRONT OF US. HOPEFULLY IN YOUR CONFERENCE ROOM. ALSO, UM, LAST COUNCIL MEETING. UH, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRIX REFERRED TO RFP FOR THE EAST HARTSDALE SEWER PROJECT.

THE ORIGINAL RFP. UH, CAN THIS BE MADE PUBLIC WITHOUT A FOIL REQUEST? BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE NO PUBLICIZED REQUEST. YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE NO RESPONSES. IT'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. EVERYONE WANTS THE BUSINESS, SO IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, UM, WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. UH, SECONDLY, THERE HAS BEEN VERY LITTLE OF ANY PROGRESS ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE. I PASS IT ALMOST EVERY DAY. AND LAST I WOULD SAY IT'S WEDNESDAY. LAST EIGHT BUSINESS DAYS AT ONE DAY.

HAVE I SEEN ANY WORK BEING DONE THERE? I THINK THE BOARD REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE WEEKLY PROGRESS REPORTS THAT ARE POSSIBLY POSTED TO THE WEBSITE, SO THAT THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON. IF ANYTHING. UH, AS TO THE MARIJUANA SMELL, I AGREE. ALSO, UH, AND I REALLY BEGGED THE BOARD NOT TO CHANGE ITS, UH, IT'S, UH, NONCOMPLIANCE WITH ALLOWING MARIJUANA STORES AND GREENBERG. THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM IN WHITE PLAINS, SO MANY OF THEM RIGHT OVER THE BORDER IN YONKERS. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE, AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT IN OUR TOWN. UM, LASTLY, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROJECT WITH THESE AGENCIES, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY GET AN IRONCLAD IRONCLAD CONTRACT IF POSSIBLE. I HAVE ONE MORE THING, BUT WE'LL WAIT FOR TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MANNY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TWO MINUTES OR NO? YEAH.

SO THAT'S. SO. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WANT TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE COMMENTS MADE? OH. OH, MAN. I'M SORRY. OKAY. I DIDN'T REALIZE. UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING ME TWO MORE MINUTES. I DIDN'T THINK I HAD A, UM, I THANK THE, THE BOARD FOR, UH, MAKING AN EFFORT TO START ON TIME. UM, I THINK YOURS THAT I THINK I THINK EVERYBODY'S HERE SITTING THIS IN 715. AND WHEN THE TOWN BOARD MOSES IN, UH, 20, 30 MINUTES AFTERWARDS, IT'S IT'S DISCONCERTING AND DISRESPECTFUL. THANK YOU FOR APPROVING, UH, TO START TIME.

UM, I ALSO WANT, UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS ABILITY THAT YOU'VE BEEN SHOWN, ESPECIALLY AFTER, UH, MR. FEINER WAS ELECTED, UH, HANDSOMELY, WITH A SUPERMAJORITY. UM, AND IT SEEMED TO HAVE MADE THINGS A LITTLE EASIER FOR YOU TO TO LIVE WITH HIS ELECTION. AFTER THE ELECTION IN THE PRIMARY.

UM, AND I THINK I SHOULD HOPEFULLY IT WILL CONTINUE. AND THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF THE TOWN'S BUSINESS AND AND THERE.

WE SERVE YOU ANY ANIMOSITIES OR POLITICAL, UH, ANIMOSITIES YOU HAVE FOR FOR ANYONE, UM, TO SOME SOMEPLACE ELSE OTHER THAN HERE IN THE SETTING. UH, WE'RE CITIZENS. JUST COME TO BE HEARD AND HOPEFULLY. HAVE YOU, UH, TAKE ACTIONS IN THERE WITH THEIR NEEDS AND, UH, NECESSITIES, UH, GOING FORWARD? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU.

AND OUR LAST WEEK WILL BE JUDITH BEVILLE.

THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I COME TO YOU AS,

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YOU WILL GET A RESPONSE. IN SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 21ST. AND I RECEIVED THIS RESPONSE TELLING ME THAT MY REQUEST WAS DENIED. NOW. THIS IS CORRUPTION OF PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT NECESSARY TO WAIT FOR MONTHS TO TELL SOMEONE THAT THEIR FULL REQUEST WAS DENIED. YOU DID NOT NEED FOUR MONTHS TO REVIEW A FORMAL REQUEST. ANYONE WHO SITS BY AND ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN IS COMPLICIT WITH CORRUPTION OF PROCESS. WE NEED A BOARD THAT HONORS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S THE LAW. FOIL MEANS FREEDOM OF INFORMATION LAW. IT'S A LAW.

THANK YOU. WE NEED.

RESPECT FOR THE LAW. THANK YOU. YES.

NO MORE SPEAKERS. ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND? YES, I'D LIKE.

TO RESPOND. ABOUT THE CANNABIS. ISSUE BECAUSE I COMPLETELY AGREE. I REALLY DO NOT ENJOY.

HAVING MY WINDOWS OPEN WHERE I LIVE AND HAVING IT WAFTING IN ALL THE TIME. I DON'T.

UNDERSTAND WHEN CANNABIS WAS LEGALIZED AND THAT'S FINE. WHY THERE WEREN'T PROVISIONS PUT IN PLACE LIKE THERE IS FOR SMOKING. YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN CERTAIN PLACES. THERE'S PARAMETERS AROUND IT, THERE'S NO PARAMETERS AROUND, YOU KNOW, AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO INTO A DISPENSARY. THEY'RE VERY SECURE. THAT'S ALL FINE. BUT YOU WALK OUT WITH YOUR GUMMIES OR WHATEVER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HOP IN YOUR CAR AND AND GO ANYWHERE. YOU CAN'T WALK AROUND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN'T WALK AROUND THE STREET DRINKING. SO I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE LEGISLATION, THOUGH. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT AT THE TOWN LEVEL. BUT CERTAINLY THE STATE COULD IMPOSE MORE, UH, BECAUSE IT IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR, FOR US ALSO FOR CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, AND I DO FIND IT ALSO VERY UNPLEASANT. SO I UNDERSTAND.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WELL, WITH THE MARIJUANA ISSUE, WE CAN BAN IT AS LONG AS WE BAN ALL TYPES OF SMOKING, INCLUDING CIGARETTES ON PUBLIC STREETS.

UM, BUT THAT'S THE STATE. AND THE STATE CAME OUT WITH THIS LAW. WHAT'S REALLY TROUBLING IS ANYONE WHO LIVES IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING, IF THE NEXT APARTMENT OVER IS SMOKING MARIJUANA, YOU'RE SMELLING MARIJUANA. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED IT WAS MADE. YOU CAN'T DRINK AN OPEN BOTTLE OF ALCOHOL IN THE STREET. UM, BUT THE WAY THE STATE HAS COME DOWN, THAT IF YOU'RE ALLOWING CIGARETTE SMOKING, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW MARIJUANA SMOKING, AND THEY'RE REALLY VERY DIFFERENT, AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE ODOR IS CONCERNED. UH, REGARDING THE, UH, THE UNCOLLECTED TAXES, UH, THE SPEAKER SAID THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE $29 MILLION IN UNCOLLECTED TAXES. UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY JANUARY OF THIS YEAR AND HAS NOW RISEN TO $34 MILLION. UH, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE HAVING ANOTHER AUCTION THIS YEAR. IT WAS ANTICIPATED. I'M SORRY.

I WANTED TO CORRECT THAT. SO, UM, I REACHED OUT, AND THERE ACTUALLY IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER, UH, SECOND. WHEN WAS THAT CHANGED? BECAUSE IT WAS. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DECEMBER 2ND. AND THEN JOE SAID

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I SPOKE TO JOE TODAY. HE SAID, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AUCTION THIS YEAR. HE SAID ONE THIS YEAR.

SO SO HOW MANY HOW MANY UNITS WILL BE PUT UP.

FOR THAT? I BELIEVE IT'S THREE, BUT I WOULD NEED TO.

RIGHT. SO IT MAY BE THE ONES THAT IT MAY BE THE ONES THAT DIDN'T SELL THE FIRST TIME. AND ONE OF THE ONES THAT, UH, WE DID AUCTION OFF, WE HAD TO PULL BACK BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THAT THE PRIOR ATTORNEY THAT WAS WORKING ON THAT, UH, MESSED UP THE, UH, THE TITLE. AND SO AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER ONES THAT WE ACTUALLY, UM, WERE RELYING ON BECAUSE IT WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE, I BELIEVE.

AND, UH, AND THEN WE HAD TO CANCEL THAT AUCTION. SO WE'RE TRYING WITH OUR NEW, UM, OUTSIDE COUNSEL, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO DO AN AUCTION, THE NEXT TIME WE'RE NOT RELYING ON ANY OF THE PAST WORK THAT WAS DONE AND DOING IT CORRECTLY, SO THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE AN AUCTION AND WE THINK WE HAVE SOLD THE PROPERTY, UH, IT ACTUALLY STAYS SOLD. UM, UH, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME, BUT AS, UH, IF WE'RE DOING THREE PROPERTIES IN DECEMBER, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING UP ON ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE FORENSIC AUDIT COMING OUT. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THESE WITHIN THE FIRST THREE YEARS, UM, WE NEED TO RAMP THAT UP. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE WANT QUALITY AUCTIONS THAT WILL, UM, WITH WILL, WHICH WILL WITHSTAND SCRUTINY AND NOT JUST SAY, WE'RE HAVING AN AUCTION FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING AN AUCTION. UH, THE, UM, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, EXPANSION OF THE NOLES, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT PUBLIC HEARING. UM, WE UNDERSTAND, AND IT WILL COME UP DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT IS AN APPEAL BEFORE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE HEARD. AND WHAT THAT IMPACT MIGHT BE ON THE, UH, OUR PROCESS REGARDING THE NOLES. UH, WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, REGARDING EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, THERE WAS A DELAY. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT OR. YOU WANT TO START AGAIN? THERE WAS A DELAY BECAUSE WE HAD THREE JET TRUCKS. THERE ARE SO MANY UTILITIES IN THAT AREA. UH, WHICH IS PART OF THE EXPENSE OF DOING THIS. SO MANY UTILITIES UNDERGROUND. THEY COULDN'T EXCAVATE, THEY COULDN'T DIG. WE HAD TO USE A JET TRUCK AND SPRAY IT WITH, YOU KNOW, HIGH PRESSURE WATER SO THAT WE DIDN'T DAMAGE ANY OF THE PIPES OR THE WATER. WHAT ARE THE THE LINES, CABLES UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK? WE HAVE THREE JET TRUCKS. THERE ARE ABOUT $700,000 APIECE. ALL THREE OF THEM BROKE DOWN. WE BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE PURSUING, UH, DECLARING THEM TO BE LEMONS, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WE GET CHARGED WHEN WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO REPAIR. UM, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT JUST IT JUST HAPPENED TO HAPPEN THAT WAY. UM, BUT THERE WILL BE A RESUMPTION OF THE WEEKLY, UH, POSTINGS, I THINK, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON, UH, COULD SPEAK TO THAT, UM, WHICH WE HAD TO STOP BECAUSE THERE WAS A LAWSUIT, UH, STATING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE GOING FORWARD. AND THAT'S ALL BEEN RESOLVED NOW, THAT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN. OUR TOWN ATTORNEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB IN COURT, AND FOUND THAT. GOT A FAVORABLE DECISIONS FOR THE TOWN. IN BOTH THOSE CASES, UM, UH. UH, I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. A JET TRUCK IS JUST IT'S A VERY IT'S AN ENORMOUS TRUCK THAT CAN VACUUM AMAZING AMOUNTS OF MATERIAL, BUT IT ALSO CAN PUSH AN AWFUL LOT OF MATERIAL. SO WHAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, NOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY. TO I'M GOING TO START TEACHING HERE. OUR, OUR.

SEWER SYSTEM IS DESIGNED FOR OLD FASHIONED TOILETS THAT PUT A LOT OF WATER OUT. BUT ALL OF US WANT TO SAVE MONEY TO GOOD THING. SO WE NOW HAVE LOW FLUSH TOILETS. THAT'S GREAT. AND SAVING MONEY, BUT IT DOESN'T PUSH. UH, HOW DO WE BE DELICATE ABOUT THIS? WHAT NEEDS TO BE PUSHED? WASTE. WASTE? WAIT. IT DOESN'T PUSH

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UH, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT HAS A GREAT, GREAT, UM, FEATURE IN THAT IT CAN ALMOST LIKE A SCULPTOR, WORK THE JET SO THAT YOU'RE NOT DAMAGING ANY OF THESE, THESE UTILITY PIPES OR ANYTHING ELSE UNDERGROUND. YOU'RE NOT PUTTING A SHOVEL IN, YOU'RE NOT DOING ANY OF THAT. AND YOU GENTLY GET THE DIRT TO JUST BASICALLY FALL DOWN. AND THE SUCTION FROM THIS THING THEN SUCKS OUT THE, THE MUD AND THEY CONTINUE GOING, AND THEY CAN OPEN AND EXPOSE, UM, WHAT'S UNDERGROUND BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO DETERMINE IF IN THE VERY CENTER OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, THERE'S A COUNTY MAJOR SEWER LINE, AND WE HAVE TO DETERMINE IF THAT'S LEAKING. AND THE COUNTY IS WAITING FOR US TO UNCOVER IT SO THAT THEY CAN DETERMINE IS IT IF IT'S LEAKING, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY BECAUSE IT'S SO BIG OF PUTTING CAMERAS DOWN ON EACH SIDE AND DETERMINING IF THERE'S A LEAK INTERNALLY. SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THIS PROJECT NOW, BECAUSE IT SEEMS VERY MUCH LIKE THAT WATER IS UNDER PRESSURE. AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING SOME COMPLICATIONS WITH OUR SITE, AND MAY ULTIMATELY BE THE REASON WHY THE THING COLLAPSED IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS. HEAR YOU. DID YOU SAY THREE OF THESE JET TRUCKS HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE REMNANTS? THREE OF THEM ARE DOWN.

I THINK $700,000 APIECE. SO I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IF YOU WANT. UM, SO THE JET TRUCKS ARE CUSTOM, UH, GOODS. THEY'RE, UH, CHASSIS THAT'S OUTFITTED FOR PUTTING THE JET COMPONENTS ON TOP OF IT. SO, UM, THERE SEEMED TO BE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THEM FREQUENTLY. UM.

HOW OLD ARE THEY? I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND.

I'M NOT VERY NEW. 700,000 APIECE. THAT'S $2.1 MILLION. YEAH, WELL, YOU COULD DO THE MATH. OKAY.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO. YEAH. NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ALL 700,000. THE ONES MOST RECENTLY WERE 700,000. UH, MAYBE BEFORE IT WAS 600,000. THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. GREENBERG'S. NO MACHINES.

TO DO THEIR WORK. NO, THE TOWN IS USING THE GREENBERG JET. UH, THE MACHINES? NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CONTRACT. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH.

THANK YOU. SO I KNOW, BUT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS INTERCHANGE. EXCUSE ME IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY LONG TIME TONIGHT.

I WANT TO RESPOND. I HAVE. AND I.

HAD I'M NOT DONE. OKAY. ABOUT THE AUCTION.

CAN I ASK, YOU KNOW. ABOUT THE AUCTION? THIS IS NOT, UM, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE, HOW DOES THIS CONTRACTOR GET PAID? SO. IF YOU COULD EMAIL LEGAL, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS OFFHAND RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS I CAN SPEAK TO, UH, ATTORNEY DANKO, AND HE CAN RESPOND. BUT JUST EMAIL US. THANK YOU. AND I DID HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT TO RESPOND TO. I'M NOT DONE. YOU'RE NOT DONE. OKAY.

I'M JUST GONNA GO. I JUST WANT SO REALLY QUICKLY. I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE OFF OF COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN ON THE REPORT WITH REGARDS TO EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. UM, YES. WE DID SAY WE WERE GOING TO HAVE UPDATES AND THERE ARE UPDATES ON THE WEBSITE NOW. THE LAST UPDATE WAS, UH, SEPTEMBER 14TH. UM, AS MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE A STOP WORK ORDER SO WE COULD NOT CONTINUE POSTING, I WOULD SAY, BUT I WILL SAY.

THAT YOU HAD STOP. LET'S LET YOU WE CAN'T HAVE THIS BACK AND FORTH. I'M SORRY. WE GOT TO TRY TO.

FORGIVE ME. OKAY.

SO, UM, SO WE WILL. SO. BUT WORK HAS BEEN CONTINUING. WE'VE

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AND I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS, UH, RELATING TO, UH, JEREMY'S SUGGESTION ABOUT TOWN HALL FORUM FOR THE VILLAGES. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY EXCELLENT IDEA.

AND I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO ALL THE MAYORS. UM, AND THE VILLAGE BOARDS, AND SEE IF WE COULD SET UP, UH, WHAT YOU'VE SUGGESTED. UM, IN EACH OF THE VILLAGES AND FIND OUT WHAT SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS ARE, AND THIS IS THE WAY WE COULD, UM, DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING. UM, AND WORKING COOPERATIVELY AND EDUCATING RESIDENTS OF THE VILLAGES. WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE TOWN ARE, WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE VILLAGES ARE. UM, RELATING TO WATER AND USE. UM, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS ABOUT THE VIDEO, UH, THAT WAS ON AUGUST, UM, YOU KNOW, FOURTH, I SPOKE TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, TODAY, AND I SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID THE TOWN CLERK WAS SUPPOSED TO RELEASE IT, UH, RELEASE THE COPIES OF THE VIDEOS RELATING TO THAT INCIDENT TODAY. UM, I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE RELEASED. YOU KNOW, BY NOW.

I CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THAT. I CAN, YES.

OKAY. BUT, UH, BUT HE DID PROMISE THAT IT WOULD BE RELEASED, UM, RELATING TO JUDITH'S, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS RELATING TO, UM, THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY THINK THAT IF THERE'S A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST, I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT WE'RE ASKING, UH, FOR DELAYS OF FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, AND, UH, ORIGINALLY, WHEN THE LAW WAS FIRST FOLLOWED, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, LIKE FIVE DAYS OR TEN DAYS. UH, AND SOMETIMES YOU GET AN EXTENSION FOR 15 DAYS. UM, SO I THINK THAT TOWN CLERK HAS TO, UM, PROCEED MORE QUICKLY. SORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT.

SHE'S NOT HERE NOW, YOU KNOW, TO RESPOND, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP AND RELATING TO, UH, FRANCIS COMMENTS AND SOMEBODY COMMENTS ABOUT THE FORENSIC AUDIT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I MADE TO THE TOWN BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WAS WE MADE THE BOARD, MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE FORENSIC AUDIT, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SAID WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THIS ATTENTION, UM, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN GIVING IT ATTENTION, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, CONTRACT WITH THE COMPANY THAT DID THE ORIGINAL FORENSIC AUDIT A YEAR AGO, AND THEY COULD GIVE US A PROGRESS REPORT AND TELL US, YOU KNOW, HAVE WE BASICALLY COMPLIED WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS? YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TERRIFICALLY AND WHAT HAVEN'T WE DONE? UM, BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE COULD SAY, OH, WE LOOK, WE THIS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE REALLY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT. WE, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. MAYBE WE DIDN'T DO AS GOOD A JOB AS WE THOUGHT WE DID. AND, UM, I REMEMBER, UH, DD YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, YOU MENTIONED IN TERMS OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WASTED LIKE $2.5 MILLION, AND WE ALL KNOW WE WASTED THE MONEY ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ON WORK AND TEMPORARY REPAIRS THAT WEREN'T NEEDED. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN INDEPENDENT, UM, INVESTIGATION AND BASICALLY SAY THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED, AND THIS IS WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THIS DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, WALTER POINTED OUT, WE KNOW WE MADE MISTAKES, BUT WHAT CAN WE LEARN? WHAT DID THE TOWN DO WRONG? UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TRANSPARENCY. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WOULD URGE THE BOARD TO, UH, DO THE TO HIRE THE FORENSIC AUDITOR AGAIN SO WE COULD GET A PROGRESS REPORT AND SHOW PEOPLE THAT WE THAT WE DIDN'T WASTE MONEY. AND WE WE TOOK THE REPORT SERIOUSLY. IT WASN'T JUST A POLITICAL REPORT, BUT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE COLLECTION OF BACK TAXES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, THE

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OKAY. UM.

ARE YOU FINISHED? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE.

OF COMMENTS. UM, FIRST.

OF. ALL, LORI, JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WITH HERITAGE AND HARMONY, UM, WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING WAS THAT DONATIONS WOULD NOT BE ON TOP OF THE $30,000 OR THE $3,000. EXCUSE ME, BUT WOULD OFFSET THE DONATIONS, WOULD OFFSET, UM, WHATEVER MONIES THAT THE TOWN PUT IN. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE WHO REPEATEDLY HAVE RUSHED TO JUDGMENT BASED ON SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW, BASED ON WHAT SOMEONE THOUGHT THEY SAW.

AND I FIND THAT REPREHENSIBLE. UM, I THINK THAT USING WORDS LIKE A VICTIM AND USING WORDS FOR NEEDING TO APOLOGIZE, UM, YOU'RE AN ACCUSATIONS OF A COVER UP ARE TOTALLY UNWARRANTED. AND I THINK THAT IS ALL I'LL SAY FOR NOW. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.

PLEASE. UM, NO.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ABOUT THE FORENSIC AUDIT AND HIRING THEM TO GIVE US A PROGRESS REPORT. WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THAT IF IT WAS $29 MILLION IN JANUARY AND NOW IT'S $34 MILLION, WE'RE NOT DOING WELL. WE DON'T NEED SOMEBODY TO TELL US THAT. WE KNOW THAT THE COURTHOUSE MONEY WAS $39.4 MILLION. WE HAVE $7.4 MILLION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO A COURTHOUSE WITH. UH, AND WE'RE SEARCHING FOR A PROPERTY. WE DON'T NEED AN ORDER TO TELL US THAT WE. I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ABOUT THE COURT PARKING TICKETS. HOW MUCH WERE WE SUPPOSED TO COLLECT AND HOW MUCH DID WE DID WE COLLECT FOR EACH YEAR? I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.

WE HEARD. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE UNCOLLECTED TAXES, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET INTEREST IN PENALTIES ON THAT. BUT IF YOU WATCH THE WORK SESSION WITH OUR AUDITORS, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE IN 2024, THE LAW CHANGED. IT USED TO BE PRIOR TO 2024, AND THESE UNCOLLECTED TAXES GO BACK TO 2014, MAYBE EVEN 2013. UH, IT USED TO BE THAT IF WE FORECLOSED ON A PROPERTY AND WE SOLD IT FOR $500,000 AND IT HAD $400,000 OF UNCOLLECTED TAXES, THE TOWN WOULD KEEP THE $100,000. NOW, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT FAIR. HOWEVER, IF WE HAVE OUTSTANDING SCHOOL TAXES, SCHOOL COUNTY FIRE TAXES OF $500,000, AND IT SELLS FOR $200,000, THE TAXPAYERS JUST EIGHT $300,000. SO PRIOR TO 2024, IT KIND OF MADE IT A WASH A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE BIT LESS. NOW, IF IT SELLS FOR LESS, WE HAVE TO EAT THAT DEFICIT. AND IF IT SELLS FOR MORE, WE HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND SO NOT COLLECTING TAXES FOR SO MANY YEARS REALLY HURTS THE TOWN. AND INTEREST AND PENALTY CAN ACCRUE. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TELLING YOU NO I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE WHAT THE FACTS ARE HERE. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAY NO. OKAY. NOW YOU'RE STARTING TO ATTACK YOUR TAX ATTACK. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE FACTS. SO I DON'T SEE A NEED RIGHT NOW TO BRING IN FORENSIC AUDITORS TO TELL US WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I RAISE THIS FORENSIC AUDIT ALL THE TIME. UH, HOPING THAT SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN. HOPEFULLY, WE WILL FIGURE OUT A COURTHOUSE AND THEN A POLICE STATION, BECAUSE WE DESPERATELY NEED THOSE. BOTH

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THE I DON'T THINK YOU CLARIFIED IT JUST BY SAYING WHAT YOU SAID. SO WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN THERE'S A FIVE DAY INITIAL AND THEN. GO AHEAD. THERE'S A FIVE DAY INITIAL PERIOD TO RESPOND, AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 20 BUSINESS DAYS AFTER THAT. UM, REGARDING THE, UH, FOIL REQUEST FOR THE CAMERAS, UM, OUR IT DEPARTMENT WAS ALERTED TODAY THAT THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL CAMERAS THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE LOBBY, AND THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO CONFIRM WITHIN THE TIME WINDOW FOR THE TOWN CLERK TO SUBMIT THAT RESPONSE TODAY. SO THEY WANTED UNTIL TOMORROW TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ACTIVE ANYMORE. UM, WHICH IS WHY IT WAS NOT RELEASED TODAY. AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ITEM WAS, UM, IT'S BEEN SO LONG NOW. I REMEMBER, UM, FOIL AND THE AUCTION. OH, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AUCTION. SO THE PRIOR FORECLOSURE ATTORNEY HAD ONLY CONDUCTED ONE AUCTION IN 13 YEARS. JUST TO CLARIFY THE. RECORD, WE'VE HAD THIS ATTORNEY ON FOR HOW. LONG? THEY'RE NO LONGER WITH THE TOWN. NO, BUT I MEAN, THE CURRENT ATTORNEY. OH, NO. OUTSIDE COUNSEL IS ONLY BEEN DOING IT FOR, I BELIEVE, THIS YEAR. AND I THINK JUST THIS YEAR THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON LAST YEAR.

BIG DIFFERENCE MONTHS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE ARE WE.

READY NEXT. UH, WELL. WHICH IS THE ONE I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE IF THEY'RE WAITING AROUND. UM, CD, UH, THE ONE THAT GARRETT ONCE HELD OVER. TO SEE. SEE.

CD FOR. OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS GARRETT SAYING.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. I WAS GOING TO TAKE IT.

AS. AN HE.

SAID, IS CD FOR. YEAH, IT IS NEEDED FOR IT.

YEAH. YES. AND WE WERE WE ALSO DECIDED FOR CD2 AND THREE THAT WE WERE.

SOMEHOW THE HELD OVERS. UM JOY, COULD YOU SAY WHICH ONES ARE BEING HELD OVER. YES, WE'RE HOLDING OVER CD TWO, CD THREE, CD FOUR AND THEN WE ARE HOLDING OVER FIVE AND SIX.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE THOUGH.

UH, WE ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE OUR TOWN, OUR ACTING TOWN ENGINEER, AND OUR DPW COMMISSIONER ADDRESS THE ISSUES REGARDING THOSE TWO AT OUR WORK SESSION NEXT TUESDAY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD SAID, FRANCIS, LAST NIGHT.

RIGHT. DID YOU SAY CD THREE? YES. NO. I THOUGHT WE WERE CONDITIONING THAT. WHAT? I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO CONDITION THAT APPROVAL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET IN TIME FOR THE NEXT MEETING. OH, YES. WELL, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO DO A SPECIAL MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO DO A SPECIAL MEETING. NO, WE COULD JUST CONDITION IT FOR. OH, TO SAY.

SO THAT AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE CONDITIONS AND THE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT IT'S SAFE, YOU KNOW, SO.

THAT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED WAS THAT IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT WAS OUR FINAL DECISION. BUT WE WENT BACK. AND FORTH. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THAT AS AMENDED. OKAY. AS AMENDED.

OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO NEXT WE START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, TO CONSIDER SORRY THAT EVERYBODY'S

[ To consider a local law creating Chapter 239 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh as it relates to property maintenance]

IT, UM, TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW CREATING, UH, CHAPTER 239 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS IT RELATES TO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. WE OPEN THE HEARING SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I.

ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? UH. GOOD EVENING.

UM. I'M COMPANY BUILDING INSPECTOR LIZ GARRITY. UM, I'M HERE THIS EVENING. UM, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN. WHY? UM, THIS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW IS NECESSARY IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. WE REGULARLY ISSUE NOTICES AND SUMMONSES WHEN PROPERTY CONDITIONS VIOLATE THE CODE. IN MOST CASES, OWNERS CORRECT THE PROBLEM. BUT THERE ARE ALSO SITUATIONS WHERE VIOLATIONS REMAIN OUTSTANDING AND CONDITIONS CONTINUE DESPITE THE TOWN'S ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. WE ALSO ENCOUNTER EMERGENCY SITUATIONS WHERE IMMEDIATE ACTION MAY BE NECESSARY TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE AND PROPERTY. PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE OR OTHER

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IF IT IS CORRECT, IF IT IS NOT CORRECTED, THAT MATTER CAN PROCEED THROUGH THE THROUGH CONTINUED ENFORCEMENT AND WHERE APPROPRIATE, COME BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD. THE BOARD WOULD HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND GIVE THE OWNER AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THE BOARD WOULD THEN DETERMINE WHETHER A PUBLIC NUISANCE CONDITION EXISTS, AND WHETHER ABATEMENT IS APPROPRIATE. IF ABATEMENT IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TOWN BOARD, THE TOWN CAN TAKE REASONABLE STEPS TO CORRECT THE CONDITION, WITH THE COST RECOVERABLE AS PROVIDED BY LAW. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT AN EMERGENCY SITUATION IS. THERE'S A SEPARATE PROCESS FOR TRUE EMERGENCIES. THIS WOULD APPLY WHEN IMMEDIATE ACTION IS NECESSARY TO PREVENT DEATH. SERIOUS INJURY, SUBSTANTIAL PROPERTY DAMAGE, SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, OR THE INTERRUPTION OF AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE. AN EMERGENCY DETERMINATION MUST BE DOCUMENTED, AND ANY ACTION TAKEN BY THE TOWN MUST BE LIMITED TO WHAT IS REASONABLY NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THE EMERGENCY. THIS PROVISION IS NOT INTENDED SIMPLY FOR UNSIGHTLY PROPERTY OR AN ORDINARY VIOLATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN CORRECTED, SO I LISTEN TO ALL THE COMMENTS AT THE LAST MEETING, AND I MADE MODIFICATIONS TO THE LAW BASED ON THE COMMENTS AND THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED. THE OVERALL PURPOSE HAS NOT CHANGED, BUT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN MADE MORE OBJECTIVE AND SPECIFIC. THE PRINCIPAL CHANGES INCLUDE. FIRST NOTICES MUST IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC PROVISION THAT WAS VIOLATED IN THE FACTUAL BASIS FOR THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION. SECOND, EMERGENCY DETERMINATIONS MUST BE DOCUMENTED AND TOWN ACTION MUST BE LIMITED TO WHAT IS REASONABLY NECESSARY TO ABATE THAT EMERGENCY. THIRD, THE REVISED LAW ADDRESSES RECURRENT CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SUBSTANTIAL SIMILAR VIOLATIONS OCCURRING WITHIN A 24 MONTH PERIOD WHILE PRESERVING APPLICABLE NOTICE AND HEARING REQUIREMENTS. FINALLY, THE LAW MAKES CLEAR THAT IT IS NOT INTENDED TO RESOLVE ORDINARY DISPUTES BETWEEN NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS. THERE MUST BE ACTUAL VIOLATIONS OR CONDITION AFFECTING HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, PROPERTY OR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. IN CLOSING, THE PURPOSE OF CHAPTER 239 WILL GIVE THE TOWN A CLEAR AND CONSISTENT PROCESS FOR ADDRESSING LEGITIMATE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND NUISANCE CONDITIONS WHEN EXISTING ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT, WHILE PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS. THE LAW PROVIDES NOTICE AND OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THE CONDITION AND WHERE ABATEMENT IS BEING CONSIDERED, A PUBLIC HEARING AND A DETERMINATION BY THE TOWN BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO TOOK THE TIME TO ATTEND THE LAST HEARING AND PROVIDE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS. THOSE COMMENTS WERE HELPFUL IN IDENTIFYING AREAS WHERE THE LAW COULD BE CLARIFIED AND STRENGTHENED. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE TOWN BOARD TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED LOCAL LAW. AFTER HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC AND REVIEWING THE REVISIONS, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH ITS ADOPTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. THANK YOU TO SPEAK. YES, OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE HUGH SCHWARTZ. THERE ON THE.

THE LIST SPEAK. THERE'S A.

LIST. YOU JUST.

SAID. YEAH, THERE'S A LIST. YEAH. HE HASN'T.

GOOD EVENING. AND. UM, I.

THINK THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE INTENT OF THIS LAW IS, IS RIGHT ON. UM, I THINK IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SAW THE LAW, BUT I STILL THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT NEED TO BE TIGHTENED UP. AND I GIVE YOU A COUPLE

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AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE REPORTING, THE MORE DELIBERATIVE YOU CAN BE. I UNDERSTAND AN EMERGENCY. IT HAS TO BE DONE QUICKLY, BUT IT CAN BE IN TERMS OF THE REPEATED VIOLATION, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT SOMEONE GIVE A FINAL, BE GIVEN A FINAL NOTICE AND WARNING. THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING, OR WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN GIVE THEM ANOTHER 5 TO 10 DAYS TO RESPOND TO IT. JUST SO ONE LAST TIME, SO THAT THERE IS A A FINAL WARNING BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY GO IN THEIR PROPERTY. AS I SAID, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

WHEN YOU GO INTO SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY WITHOUT THAT. SO I TIGHTEN UP THE DEFINITION OF ENGINEERING. I WOULD AGAIN NOT PUT THE BURDEN ON ONE INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE THE DECISION OF WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AND WHEN THERE'S NOT. I WOULD LOOK AT A VERY SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF IMMINENT, BY THE WAY, IS THE WORD IMMINENCE IN THERE? I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK THAT UP IN THE DICTIONARY. WHATEVER DICTIONARY USED THESE DAYS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WELL DEFINED AS TO WHAT YOU MEAN BY IMMINENT DANGER. IS IT LEANING TREE OVER A, UM, POWER LINE? IMMINENT DANGER? IS IT GOING TO FALL DOWN WITHIN 24 HOURS? IT SHOULD ALLOW YOU TO GO ON THE PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY THE CASE. THAT'S A REAL GRAY AREA, AND IT'S GOING TO FALL DOWN SOONER OR LATER. IF YOU GET A BIG WINDSTORM OR A BIG SNOWSTORM. BUT YOU NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF DEFINING THAT. I THINK YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE, AND I THINK THE LAW ISN'T THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE SHERRY UJI. YES, I'M BACK WITH MY POSTER, SHERRY UJI, THREE STEVENS LANE. UM, I'M APPRECIATIVE TO THE TOWN FOR CREATING THIS LAW, AND I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS THIS IS THE POSTER CHILD. THE KNOLLS IS THE THE POSTER CHILD FOR THE NEED FOR THIS LAW. AND I CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE. SAYING THAT YOU'LL TAKE DOWN THIS ABANDONED HOUSE ONLY AFTER THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED IS NOT COMPLYING WITH TOWN PROCEDURES.

IT'S SHAMEFUL. IT REALLY IS. SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THE KEY EXAMPLE FOR THE NEED FOR THIS LAW. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO BRING UP THAT WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT THE GROUP HOMES. THERE SEEMS TO BE A HABIT AND A TREND OF THE NON-PROFITS NOT KEEPING UP WITH THEIR PROPERTIES. SO THANK YOU TO THE TOWN FOR PUTTING THIS LOT TOGETHER. I SUPPORT IT.

HERE'S YOUR POSTER CHILD. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. AND NOLES, PLEASE MOW YOUR LAWN AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR LEAVES. THANK YOU. NO MORE SPEAKERS.

I'D LIKE TO, UH. ARE WE GOING TO BE, UH, CLOSING THE HEARING DURING THE HEARING? YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S GOOD. OH, YEAH. IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE, I CAN JUST ADDRESS TWO OF THE COMMENTS. UM, ONE WAS THE DEFINITION OF AN DANGER. THAT TERM IS ALREADY DEFINED IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE OF NEW YORK STATE. THE TOWN DOES NOT TYPICALLY REDEFINE TERMS THAT ARE ALREADY ADDRESSED IN NEW YORK STATE. AND FOR THE BOARDS AND THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, IMMINENT DANGER TO THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE IS

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS.

UH, UM. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, LIZ, ABOUT CLOSING THE HEARING, LEAVING THE RECORD OPEN, AND ANYBODY COULD PUT THEIR COMMENTS IN, AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE MODIFICATIONS AS YOU DEEM NECESSARY. THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE.

OKAY. UH, THEN I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS. SECOND. CLOSED THE HEARING, CLOSE THE HEAR. ON THE RECORD. I'LL LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?

[ To consider a Zoning Map amendment petition and amended site plan application by Bethel Communities Management (“Bethel”) as it relates to a proposed expansion of an existing Continuing Care Retirement Community (CCRC) located at 55 Grasslands Road, PO Valhalla [TB 25-05] ]

A SECOND. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? HI.

HI. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR FEINER. MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL.

FOR THE RECORD, GARY. , 311.

SECOND, I THINK. OKAY, TO CLARIFY FOR THE STENOGRAPHER, MISS HENDRIX STEPPED AWAY FOR THE VOTE. YEAH, AND DID NOT VOTE. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD. GARRETT DUQUESNE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS A CONTINUATION FROM THE HEARING HELD ON JUNE 10TH, 2026 AND SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026, WHICH IS RELATED TO A LOCAL LAW PROPOSED TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG FROM AN EXISTING DESIGNATION OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD TO THE AR 31 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS A SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICATION AMENDING THE CURRENT CONTINUING CARE COMMUNITY. CCRC SPECIAL PERMIT RELATED TO A 74 UNIT PROPOSED EXPANSION, AND LASTLY, AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION RELATED TO THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AT BETHEL. FOLLOWING THE SEPTEMBER 9TH TOWN BOARD HEARING, THE APPLICANT APPEARED BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD AT A WORK SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 15TH AND PRESENTED VISUALS RELATED TO THE LOCAL WATERSHED AND THE PROJECTS AND SITES RELATION TO AREAS EXPERIENCING FLOODING. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT ADDITIONAL UPDATES TONIGHT ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, DAVID COOPER, IS PRESENT TO DO SO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GARRETT. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD DAVID COOPER. LAW FIRM IS AARON STEINMETZ HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, BETHEL KNOLLS.

UM, WITH ME IS ANASTASIOS MARKOPOLOS, THE CEO OF BETHEL J. MICHAEL OR FC, THE OWNERS REP. AND COLETTE DELAURO FROM LANGAN. OUR PROJECT ENGINEERS, AS WELL AS A GROUP OF VERY, VERY PATIENT RESIDENTS FROM THE KNOLLS. THANK YOU FOR STAYING THERE WAS THERE WAS A POINT WHERE THERE WERE NO SEATS AND WE WERE OUTSIDE STANDING AND WE GOT SEATS FOR THEM AND THEY'RE STILL HERE. I THINK THAT JUST SHOWS, UH, THEIR DEDICATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS APPLICATION. ONE THING I WOULD SAY, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID TO ME JUST A MINUTE AGO, BY THE WAY, THE KNOLLS WAS THERE EVERY EVERY TUESDAY. THANK YOU. WILL.

NOW I'VE GOT. YEAH. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT COMMENT WAS ABOUT. BUT I DIDN'T. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WE WERE. THE NOLES WAS ACCUSED OF NOT MOWING THEIR LAWN JUST A SECOND AGO, AND I WAS JUST TOLD BY ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVED THERE THAT THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT ON ON THE CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. UM, WE DID MEET, AS GARETT SAID, WITH YOUR BOARD IN A WORK SESSION LAST WEEK TO GO THROUGH SOME A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AT THE AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING. AGAIN, NOT REALLY RELATED TO THE PROJECT.

IN OTHER WORDS, HOW THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WILL WORK AND THE PROJECT AND WHERE THAT WATER IS GOING. BUT CONCERNS ABOUT WATER ON HILLSIDE AVENUE AND CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING AT BALLYMORE AND VARIOUS OTHER UH, COMMUNITIES ALONG THAT, THAT PATHWAY, WE DID GO THROUGH THE WATERSHED.

WE DID GO THROUGH FLOODING PATTERNS TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND HOW IT'S NOT THE COMING FROM THE NOLES, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME UP TONIGHT AND SAY IT IS. I WOULD JUST ASK THE BOARD AT THE END EITHER TO ASK ANY SPEAKER WHO SAYS THAT FOR THE ENGINEERING, UH, EVIDENCE BEHIND THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE AN EXPERT THAT HAS ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT? AND SECOND, WHAT IS YOUR EXPERTS? WHAT ARE YOUR EXPERTS SAYING? WHAT I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE FROM THAT MEETING IS OF MOST UTMOST IMPORTANCE IS, UM, YOUR TOWN HAS A POLICY OF TRYING TO REDUCE RUNOFF AT A NEW PROJECT. IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE STORMWATER IS RUNNING OFF THE SITE. NOW, WHEN THERE'S A NEW IMPROVEMENT, YOU WANT TO SEE INFILTRATION, YOU WANT TO SEE IT BEING CAPTURED AND PUT INTO THE GROUND SO THAT IT'S NOT RUNNING OFF THE SITE. AS WE SHOWED YOU EMPIRICALLY. AND WENT THROUGH THE PLANS POST CONSTRUCTION, THE WATERSHEDS WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE

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IT'S GOING TO BE INFILTRATED ON SITE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ENGINEERS WANT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE TOWN BOARD WANTS. AND YOUR SERIES OF ENGINEERS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, OUR ENGINEERS, EVERY PROFESSIONAL WITH THEIR LICENSE, HAS SAID THIS PROJECT WILL REDUCE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM THE SITE. THAT'S YOU GOT TO START FROM THAT FROM THAT PIECE, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. YOU HAVE TO START FROM THAT PREMISE. UM, I WANTED TO TIE UP TWO LOOSE ENDS BEFORE TURNING TO TURNING OVER TO THE PUBLIC. ONE SUPERVISOR FEINER, YOU HAD ASKED DURING THE WORK SESSION WHETHER OR NOT THE NOLES WOULD CONSIDER DOING A TREE SURVEY ON THE HILLSIDE, AGAIN, NOT RELATED TO THE PROJECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE SILLY TO SAY YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO IGNORE IT. SO WE DID SPEAK WITH WITH THE PROJECT OWNER AND, AND, UH, MANAGER, THEY WILL DO THAT. THEY WILL SURVEY THE TREES ON THAT SIDE ON THEIR PROPERTY. AGAIN, I BELIEVE A LOT OF THE TREES OR A COUPLE OF TREES THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE ACTUALLY ON DOT PROPERTY, NOT ON THE NOLES PROPERTY. THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS ON THAT HILLSIDE. BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY WILL SURVEY THE TREES AND THE TREES THAT ARE THAT ARE MARKED AS DANGEROUS AND THEY MAY FALL DOWN AND FALL INTO THE STREET, WILL BE REMOVED ANDD, U PART OF THE PROJECT. SECOND, THERE WAS A COMMENT, I THINK, AT THE AT THE WORK SESSION ABOUT A HISTORIC, UH, STORM BASIN AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE KNOWLES BUILDING. THERE WAS THERE WAS A QUESTION OF WHAT ARE ALL THESE CIRCLES IN, IN THE IN THE, IN THE TREES. WE HAD LANGAN GO OUT AND LOOK AT THESE, THESE AREAS. THERE IS ONE HISTORIC, UH, CATCH BASIN OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. APPARENTLY, COLETTE WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT WE FOUND, BUT I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, UH, THAT BASIN IS COLLECTING JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF WATER FROM THE REAR RIGHT NOW. IT IS IN DOING ITS JOB. IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS COLLECTING WATER. IT IS NOT SHOOTING WATER OUT OR ALLOWING WATER ON THE SITE TO TO GO DOWN TO THE HILLSIDE. UM, AGAIN, THE PROJECT WILL BE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IS ON THIS SITE SO THAT THE EXTENT THAT THAT IT IS COLLECTING ANY WATER THERE WOULD BE REDUCED POST CONSTRUCTION. UM, WHAT WE WOULD DO AGAIN IS THERE'S GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, RIGHT? AS YOU DO WITH ANY APPLICANT. RIGHT. WHEN YOU PUT NEW STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FEATURES INTO A PROJECT, WE HAVE TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT THAT SAYS WE WILL MAINTAIN IT. AND IF WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT, YOU THE TOWN CAN COME ON AND INSPECT. AND IF YOU FIND THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE AND WE'RE NOT DOING IT, YOU WOULD DO IT AND BUILD IT BACK TO BACK TO THE CLIENT. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE RETENTION BASIN DOWN IN THE FRONT, THE ONE THAT'S DESIGNED FOR 9.1IN OF RAIN THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT. LET'S WRAP THIS ONE UP AS WELL. THIS IS A HISTORIC ONE. THIS IS NOT THIS HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER. BUT IF YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT, WE'RE FINE WITH DOING THAT. LET ME JUST HAVE COLLECT COME UP AND JUST TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT WHAT WE FOUND.

AND I THINK ALSO A SUMMARY AGAIN OF THE WATERSHED, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF, OF COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, FALLEN TREES AND FLOODING, ETC.. AND AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT COMING FROM OUR SITE, BUT BUT WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME UP. SO WE WANT TO GET OUT OF IT.

COULD YOU ALSO SPEAK TO WHY THE REZONE AND THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT? WELL, THE THE BENEFIT OF DOING IT IS BECAUSE THE, THE, THE ZONING MAP RIGHT NOW, THE TOWN ZONING MAP RIGHT NOW, UH, IS IS UNCLEAR. RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR ZONING MAP, IT SAYS THIS IS IN THE PUD, THIS SITE AND THE AND THE GROVE IS IN THE PUD. UM, DO.

YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN PUD. FOR THE PUD IS A RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ALLOWS YOU ESSENTIALLY TO CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S DEVELOPED ON THE SITE. CLEARLY, THAT PUD, WHICH WAS WHICH WAS CREATED, I THINK, IN THE 80S AND AT SOME POINT PLACED ONTO THE SITE WAS NEVER ACTUALLY TAKEN OFF ON YOUR MAP. UM, THE, THE TOWN BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UH, BELIEVE IS APPLYING THAT THE CORRECT ZONING RIGHT NOW IS R 20 R 40. THERE'S A SPLIT R 20 OR 40. BUT THE IDEA WAS IN IN CONSULTATION WITH TOWN STAFF TO CLEAN UP THE MAP AND TO TURN THIS INTO OUR 30 SO THAT THE ENTIRE SITE WOULD BE IN OUR 30. THIS IS NOT A NECESSITY PER SE FOR THE FOR THE PROJECT. IT'S JUST A CLEANUP. IT'S PART OF OF WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE INCLUDE THIS IN THE PROJECT.

UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A OVER FIVE ACRE SITE, WE'D BE BEFORE YOU FOR SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT ANYWAY.

BUT BECAUSE WE WERE BEFORE YOU, WE DECIDED TO ALSO INCLUDE THAT REZONING. THIS IS JUST A MAP CLEANUP. WHAT I WOULD SAY ON

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RIGHT. AS YOU KNOW, FIRST SECRET'S GOT TO BE COMPLETED.

THEN THE REZONING WE HAVE, WE HAVE A ZONING BOARD APPLICATION THAT WE'D COME BACK AND WE WOULD BE BEFORE YOU WITH ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT. A LOT OF THE, UM, ITEMS THAT I THINK WE WERE DISCUSSING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS OR WEEKS, UH, ARE REALLY SITE PLAN LEVEL DISCUSSIONS, NOT SECRET IMPACT QUANTIFICATION ISSUES. HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW WE NEED WE NEED THE BOARD TO MAKE A DETERMINATION UNDER SECRE SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE REZONING AND THE STREETCAR PROCESS. SO I KNOW IT'S NOT A SURPRISE TO YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH GARRETT.

UH, BUT THE ZONING BOARD HAS DECIDED THAT THEY CAN'T ACT ON AN APPEAL OF THE BUILDING INSPECTORS INTERPRETATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT YET REZONED IT. SO HOW CAN THEY GRANT, UM, A VARIANCES OR AN INTERPRETATION ON A ZONE THAT DOESN'T EXIST? SO CATCH 22.

SO WHAT'S THAT? 22.

RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE WAYS OF SOLVING THAT WOULD BE FOR US TO BIFURCATE THIS AND DO WHAT SEEMS NOT TO BE CONTROVERSIAL AT ALL AND NOT, UH, AND FRANKLY, SOMETHING THE TOWN RECOGNIZED AS NEEDED IS THE REZONE TO THE SEEKER FOR THE REZONE. DO THE REZONE AT THE NEXT MEETING, LET THE ZONING BOARD DO WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, AND THEN COME BACK WHEN WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS MORE VARIANCES OR NOT, AND WHAT IMPACT THOSE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ON THE PROJECT. UH, TO COMPLETE, COMPLETE IT. TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE A CLEANER PROCESS THAN GOING THROUGH AND HAVING EVERYTHING DONE AND THEN COME BACK TO US. IF THE ZONING BOARD SAYS YOU NEED MORE VARIANCES.

SO, UM, LET LET ME, LET ME, LET ME PEEL THAT APART BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT WHAT COUNCIL MACHINE. WHAT YOUR, WHAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE SUGGESTING WOULD BE PERHAPS PERMISSIBLE SEGMENTATION. BUT IT'S SEGMENTATION. THIS BOARD HAS SPENT THE LAST 16 MONTHS. WE'RE GOING ON 17 MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHAT HOUR WE GET TO TONIGHT. I'M A LITTLE FACETIOUS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN SEPTEMBER, BUT STILL, UH, STUDYING THE PROJECT ALONG WITH THE REZONING, THE ZONING BOARD HAS MERELY SAID THAT APPEAL FOR AN INTERPRETATION IS NOT RIPE.

RIGHT? THAT THAT IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION. WHAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A RIPE APPLICATION. IS THE PROJECT AS CONTEMPLATED AND WITH THE VARIANCES THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS SAID IS REQUIRED. AND BY THE WAY, HAS ALREADY RESPONDED ON THAT OTHER APPLICANT ON THAT INTERPRETATION THAT IT'S NOT VALID, REGARDLESS OF THAT, RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN REACH A DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE ON THE PROJECT. IF THE ZONING BOARD WERE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, ACTUALLY WE THINK THEY NEED A VARIANCE FOR THE RETAINING WALL. NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH RESPECT TO AN IMPACT. THAT'S A ZONING INTERPRETATION, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IN AND OF ITSELF IS A TYPE TWO ACTION, NOT SUBJECT TO SEEKER. SO THE FACT THAT IF THEY WERE TO COME BACK AND SAY YOU NEED NOW TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THE FOR THE LOCATION OF THE OF THAT WALL, WALL IS NOT CHANGING. RIGHT. THE LOCATION, THE AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE, THE STORMWATER OR THE TRAFFIC, ANYTHING WE'VE DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST 16 TO 17 MONTHS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT A SECRET ISSUE. IF THE BOARD IS SAYING, LOOK, WE STILL FEEL THAT WE WOULD NEED TO REOPEN OUR MEN'S SQUARE JUST TO INCLUDE THOSE, THOSE VARIANCES. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S AT THE APPLICANT'S RISK, RIGHT? AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE FINISH UP WITH SECRET BEFORE YOUR BOARD, WHICH WE HOPE TO DO THIS MONTH, AND THEN GO TO THE ZONING BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD RULES ON THE NEIGHBORS APPEAL, THAT, OH, ACTUALLY, WE DISAGREE WITH, WITH WITH YOUR BUILDING INSPECTOR, AND WE'RE GOING TO REINTERPRET IT. THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK HERE FOR THE FOR THE SITE PLAN. AND WE WOULD JUST NEED TO AMEND THE DECK. NOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, FROM A QUANTIFICATION OF IMPACT, WHICH THAT'S WHAT SECRET IS, RIGHT? IS THERE ANY EMPIRICAL DATA, EXPERT OPINION OR OTHER OBJECTIVE OBJECTIVE FACTUAL BASES IN THE RECORD TO SAY THAT THE PLACEMENT OF THAT WALL OR ANYTHING ELSE WOULD RESULT IN AN IMPACT? THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE WHETHER OR NOT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, THE SETBACK IS APPLIED OR NOT. AND SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU

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AND I KNOW I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD AND YOU WERE A GOOD ATTORNEY AND YOU ARE ADVOCATING FOR YOUR CLIENT, UH, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A WALL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS NOT BEEN REQUESTED YET OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT I THINK EVENTUALLY WILL BE, AND I HOPE IT'S DONE ALL AT ONE TIME. SO THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, DRIP, DRIP, DRIP IS THE 4000 FOOT SETBACK. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE BUILDING BILL, IF THE ZONING BOARD SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO TO BE THERE BASED ON THAT SETBACK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS WE BIFURCATE BIFURCATE THIS, GET THAT ZONING OUT OF THE WAY, HAVE THE ZONING BOARD DO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, WHICH WOULD. YES, AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COST TWO TO 2 TO 4 WEEKS. BUT THEN WE HAVE A CLEAN RECORD. YOU COME BACK HERE AND HOPEFULLY DECEMBER AND WE FINISH UP THE PROJECT.

THE THE IF AGAIN I THINK THAT ISSUE HAS ALREADY BEEN BEEN VETTED AND REVIEWED BY STAFF. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NEW. THIS STAFF IS NOT ZONING BOARD, RIGHT. NO, NO NO.

BUT ZONING BOARD GETS THE FINAL.

SAY RIGHT. BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN AGAIN IT'S AT THE APPLICANT'S RISK. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS WITH WITH THE PROCESS SAYING THAT NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEGMENT THE REVIEW AFTER EIGHT, 16 MONTHS OF.

REVIEW, SEPARATING THE APPROVALS. NOT WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT SEGREGATION AS YOU NORMALLY THINK. SEGREGATION TO BE THERE IS A DEFINITE, DISTINCT, TOTALLY DISCRETIONARY ON OUR PART. WE DON'T HAVE TO GRANT THAT WE COULD. WE COULDN'T.

NOBODY CAN SUE US EITHER WAY ON A ZONING CHANGE. WE SEPARATE THAT OUT, GET THAT DONE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A ZONING BOARD TELLING US, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HANDLE THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO SOMETHING FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST. WE'D LIKE TO REMEDY THAT.

WELL, I. CAN I'D. LIKE TO ASK FOR AN ADJOURNMENT FOR LEGAL ADVICE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. UM, WE SHOULD DISCUSS.

WE SHOULD DISCUSS THIS. IF YOU WOULD GIVE US A FEW.

MINUTES. YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY THINK.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW, AND EVERYBODY'S BEEN WAITING FOR. SO PERHAPS AFTER ALL.

THE. COMMENT HAPPENS AFTER PERHAPS AFTER WE WE LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO FOR THIS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING. AND I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU NEED TO TAKE THE EAF WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT THE PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN STUDIED IS.

RIGHT. THE ISSUE IS IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT, UH, AT SOME POINT YOU CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION TO SPLIT IT OUT, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS THIS IS YOUR AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS WHERE YOU'VE GOT A FULL RECORD, RIGHT? NO MATTER, NO MATTER, NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

YOU'VE GOT A FULL RECORD THAT YOU COULD RESPOND TO. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THOSE THOSE COMMENTS. SOMEONE SAYS, WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC IMPACT. YOU HAVE A FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC STUDY WHERE YOUR OWN TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, NO, THERE WILL NOT BE AN IMPACT HERE. SO I MEAN, JUST FLOODING. YOU HAVE A FULL BLOWN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT'S BEEN VETTED BY YOUR EXPERTS, BY OUR EXPERTS, THAT SHOWS THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN IMPACT. I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON. AND SO AT SOME POINT, YOU CAN'T USE SECRE AS A PROCEDURAL. AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE USING IT AS A WEAPON, BUT THAT'S THIS IS HOW THE COURT SAYS IT TO, TO TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN. THE FACT THAT THE, THE ZONING BOARD. HAS ABOUT. I TAKE OFFENSE AT THAT. I'M NOT TRYING TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN. I THINK IT'S GOING TO SPEED THE PROCESS UP BECAUSE YOU CAN GET DRIP, DRIP, DRIP BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD. UM, IF YOU DO IT WITH YOUR IN YOUR WAY AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU SAY, HEY, THAT'S THAT THEIR RISK. BUT IT'S A WASTE OF OUR TIME. AND THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

OH, HOLD ON, JUST, JUST LET ME JUST RESPOND TO THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT. WERE THOSE.

WHAT WERE WE THOSE PEOPLE ARE THOSE PEOPLE COMING OUT. BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT AND THE APPLICANT IS PAYING FOR THEIR CONSULTANTS TO COME OUT EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S EQUITABLE ON THAT SIDE, BUT JUST PLAY THAT REVIEW PROCESS OUT. THE ZONING BOARD ON OUR VARIANCES CANNOT ACT UNTIL THIS BOARD COMPLETES. SECRE SO IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE'RE BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD. ON THE ZONE CHANGE.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ON ON THE PROJECT. THE ZONING BOARD CANNOT ACT ON OUR ON OUR ZONING APPLICATION, ON OUR VARIANCES.

THAT'S PART OF OUR PROJECT. UNTIL SECRET IS COMPLETED, WHICH IS BEFORE YOUR BOARD. YOU'RE THE LEAD AGENCY IN A COORDINATED REVIEW. AND SO IF YOU GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE APPLICANT. IT MAKES IT

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THAT THAT'S NOT HOW THE PROCESS WAS LAID OUT. IT'S NOT HOW THE PROCESS WAS REVIEWED. AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT. SO I'LL ADVISE SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED. UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IT'S BEST TO HEAR IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM ENGINEERING OR ANY OTHER PROFESSIONALS, ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC. AND THEN AFTERWARDS, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO CONVENE AND EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT'S HOPING. THAT ON THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES, IT MIGHT. BE.

DONE ON THAT ONE OR PIN PUT IN THAT ONE. I WOULD.

REALLY REQUEST THAT IF WE'VE SAID IT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MEMORIES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN. UH, I DO HAVE TO LEAVE AT 1130. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT DISABLED PEOPLE AND GROUP HOMES. A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THEY TAKE CARE OF MY 96 YEAR OLD MOTHER IN LAW. SHE HAS LIFE SUPPORT NEEDS THAT AIDES CAN'T DO FOR HER LAST YEAR, LAST WEEK I WAS DOING THAT AFTER MIDNIGHT, AND I DON'T MIND STAYING HERE, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN BE SUCCINCT WITHOUT SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS AFTER MIDNIGHT. I JUST HAD ONE. ONE BRIEF QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT THE COSTS ARE OF FOR EACH OF THE UNIT. YOU KNOW, OCCUPANCY OCCUPANTS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO BE CHARGING TO LIVE IN EACH OF THE UNITS? YOU KNOW, I HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS. I WANT.

TO I JUST TALKED ABOUT THREE SIX.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SUCCINCT. ON TIMING. OKAY. I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION. YEAH. WE WE WE SUBMITTED THAT, THAT MATERIAL BECAUSE YOU ASKED THE QUESTION A WHILE AGO.

SUPERVISOR FEINER, THE, UH, AND I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER RIGHT OFFHAND, BUT IT ISN'T IN YOUR RECORD. WE ALSO SUBMITTED THE, UH, ENTRANCE FEES FOR ALL FOR SEVERAL OTHER SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES IN THE AREA. THE KNOLLS IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND, AND AND CERTAINLY.

WE DID SEE THE. YEAH.

I KNOW I REMEMBER IT BECAUSE THE QUESTION I HAD IS THAT IT'S STILL UNAFFORDABLE FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON IN IN GREENBURG.

AND I'M SUPERVISOR. NO SUPERVISOR. SAYS I HAVE A RIGHT. TO KNOW.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T INTERRUPT YOU. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO INTERRUPT ME. SO I'M BASICALLY SAYING I'M BASICALLY SAYING, UM, THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE, UM, A SENIOR FACILITY THAT IS UNAFFORDABLE FOR MANY. GREENBERG RESIDENTS WHO WOULD LOVE TO LIVE THERE. AND I'VE I'VE SAID THIS FOR YEARS. I FEEL THAT WHEN THE TOWN APPROVES, UM, EITHER ASSISTED LIVING OR OR, UH, SENIOR CENTER, THERE SHOULD BE SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AFFORDABLE, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY. UH, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS. AND WE SHOULD DO THE SAME THING, UM, FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOUR ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT FOR PROFIT. SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT GETTING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GETTING A PENNY, UH, IN, IN TAXES. UM, SO AT LEAST WE SHOULD GET SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO, GREENBERG, SENIORS WHO CAN'T AFFORD THIS COULD BENEFIT FROM FROM LIVING HERE.

THAT'S JUST. MY FEELING. OKAY.

SUPERVISOR. YOU WERE GOING OFF TOPIC.

YOU'RE GOING OFF TOPIC. EXCUSE ME? NOW I'M SPEAKING. YOU'RE GOING OFF TOPIC. AND AND I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN MADE A REQUEST THAT WAS VERY FAIR, CONSIDERING HE IS TAKING CARE OF HIS DISABLED MOTHER IN LAW. AND IT IS SOMETHING VERY CRITICAL. AND I THINK THAT WE CAN HOLD THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS WRONG, RIGHT OR INDIFFERENT. I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE RESPECT COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN AND TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN WE HELP? CAN YOU COME UP, PLEASE? BECAUSE YOU. ARE YOU OKAY? YES, YES. OH, I'M. I'M WATCHING YOU. I'M I'M.

I KNOW I'M WATCHING YOU. OKAY. UM. SO IS SHE.

SHE'S SHE. WAS. YES.

PLEASE. BECAUSE I SEE YOU CHALLENGED RIGHT NOW.

SO. AFTER SHE SPEAKS. ALL RIGHT.

HI. COLETTE DELAURO. UH. SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AT LANGAN, THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. I WILL BE QUICK, UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN ALREADY DISCUSSED. SO SORRY. AND I WILL SPEAK INTO THE MIC. UH, SO, AGAIN, JUST BIG OVERVIEW HERE OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE SITE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT AND THE STORMWATER BASIN, UM, THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED, THE OLD ONE IS IN THIS CORNER OF

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IF FURTHER WETLAND DELINEATION IS REQUIRED, THE BLUE. SO HERE, HERE, HERE THIS IS ALL THESE ARE ALL WETLANDS. THERE ARE ALSO THESE BLUE LINES WHICH REPRESENT RIVERINE. AND THIS IS ALL BASED ON NEW YORK STATE AND FEDERALLY MAPPED WETLAND DATA.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING FROM OUR SITE THAT IS A WETLAND OR RIVERINE OR WHAT HAVE YOU THAT GOES SOUTH OF OUR SITE. UM, IN ADDITION, I SHARED THIS LAST TIME, BUT THIS IS FROM WESTCHESTER GIS MAPPER AND IS A REALLY HELPFUL TOOL IN UNDERSTANDING THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE GREATER AREA. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE RED IS A HIGHER ELEVATION. THE GREEN IS A LOWER ELEVATION.

THIS IS A BIG WATERSHED, RIGHT? ALL OF THESE HIGH POINTS ARE GOING DOWN TOWARDS THE GREEN. AND THAT KIND OF IS FURTHER EMPHASIZED BY THE WETLAND MAPPER THAT I JUST SHOWED. SO ALL OF THIS STORMWATER FROM ALL THIS AREAS DRAINING TO THE GREEN, WHICH IS ACTING AS THE LOW POINT OF THE SURROUNDING.

AREA. THE HILLSIDE AVENUE IS HERE.

THIS IS BELMAR. UM, AND THIS IS KNOLLS UP HERE. UM, AND JUST TO REITERATE WHAT DAVID SAID BEFORE, WE ARE REMOVING TWO ACRES OF STORMWATER RUNOFF AND MAINTAINING IT ON SITE. SO THAT'S TWO ACRES OF RUNOFF THAT IS NO LONGER GOING TO THE GREENBERG SEWER SYSTEM. AND THAT IS ALL FROM ME.

THANK YOU. AND JUST JUST TO JUST TO PUT A FINE POINT ON IT, THE REASON WHY WE WENT DOWN TO THIS DEEP LEVEL IS TO SAY, LOOK, WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS AND I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IT AGAIN. MY MY BASEMENT IS FLOODED BY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WATER. THE, THE ISSUE THAT IS BEFORE THE BOARD FROM A SECRET PERSPECTIVE IS IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT, POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT WITH RESPECT TO THE PROJECT RELATED TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT? RIGHT. AND WHAT THE EMPIRICAL DATA SHOWS AND WHAT YOUR EXPERTS HAVE AGREED IS THAT THE RUNOFF THAT WILL BE FALLING OFF OF THE NEW BUILDINGS, THE NEW IMPERVIOUS, THAT'S GOING UP ON ON OUR PROJECT WILL BE COLLECTED AND PUT THE OTHER WAY, THE COMMENTS ABOUT, LOOK, MY BASEMENTS ARE FLOODING AND IT'S ALL COMING FROM FROM OUR FROM FROM THE KNOWLES, THE BAD ACTOR, THE KNOLLS. IT SCIENTIFICALLY IS. THAT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE.

THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT NEW YORK STATE, THE FEDERAL, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHAT WHAT PROFESSIONALS ARE MAPPING IN THE AREA. AND SO I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT IT TONIGHT, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO JUST EMPHASIZE THAT. IF I MAY, I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR, UM, YOUR PLAN TO LOOK AT THE TREES ON YOUR PROPERTY THAT CAN AFFECT THE, THAT, UM, DO ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SLOPE, DOWN TOWARDS THE HILLSIDE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE RESIDENTS HERE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PROPERTIES ON AND OFF, JUST OFF HILLSIDE, THAT ARE

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THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. EXCELLENT IDEA. UM, SURE.

THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING NOTES. I'M GOING.

TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. TOMORROW.

OKAY, GREAT. WE KNOW ANYTHING FURTHER? I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY UNLESS YOU'RE THERE, ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S LET'S JUST GET TO GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT THE THE SECRET, THE SECRET DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK? YEAH. OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE RAJ NAGARAJAN.

GOOD EVENING. IF YOU COULD JUST SPELL YOUR NAME. FOR THE.

YEAH. OKAY. THE FIRST NAME ARE A J. LAST NAME SPELLED ENERGY A RAJ, I GOT IT. THANK YOU. SO, YEAH, I AM, I'M RAJ NAGARAJAN.

I AM ONE OF THE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS OF THE POLYMER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS, AND, UM, WE ARE OPPOSING THE EXPANSION THE NODES PROJECT. AND WE ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY REPORTS THAT WE OBTAINED FROM PAUL AND WE SAW SO MUCH DEFICIENCY, SO MUCH ISSUES WITH THAT ONE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEM. I KNOW THEY TALKED ABOUT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. STILL, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REPORT LACKS TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION. FOR EXAMPLE, THE REPORT DID NOT PROVIDE INFILTRATION TESTING. THEY DID NOT TALK ABOUT THE GROUNDWATER DEPTH. THEY DID NOT TALK ABOUT THE SOIL PROTECTION DATA. THOSE ARE THE CRITICAL ONES FOR THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT. THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE THAT. I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST COVERING IT UP. I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE APPROVED WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY. I LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THE REPORT THAT PROVIDED BY THE LONDON TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT REPORT AND THE KIMBERLY PEER REVIEW, BUT STILL, WE ARE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SITE DISTANCE FAILURE, NEED FOR THE LEFT ON LAND, PLUS THE CRASHES TREE. STILL, THE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING VERY CLOSELY. SO THERE IS A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT THE CRASHES IS GOING TO GO HIGHER. SO THOSE ARE THE TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS. THEY STILL NEED TO CONSIDER. I ALSO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE EMERGENCY ACCESS TO THE SENIOR CFD. THIS EXPANSION IS THE CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT FACILITY. YOU GENERATE, YOU KNOW, FREQUENT AMBULANCE TRIPS, PARATRANSIT VEHICLES, SUPPORT STAFF. THERE ARE THREE SHIFTS. THERE ARE EIGHT HOUR SHIFTS ARE THREE SHIFTS. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME AND GOING. THERE ARE A LOT OF DELIVERY PEOPLE, PLUS A LOT OF VISITORS. BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIME IMPACT FROM AMBULANCES. PEAK SCHOOL HOUR TRAFFIC OR THE COMBINED EFFECT FOR SHARING THE DRIVEWAY WITH THE GROVE NURSING FACILITY FOR SENIOR COMMUNITY. THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. LAST THING I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER STORAGE. THE EXPANSION.

AT THE REQUEST OF ABOUT 38,000 GALLONS PER DAY. THAT'S THE DEMAND FOR THE EXPECTATION. IT'S UNUSUALLY HIGH FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR, AND THE GRASSLAND ALREADY HAS SO MANY DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF WATER. WATER NEED. AND THIS EXPANSION IS GOING TO PUT ADDITIONAL DENT TO OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND A SERVICE ISSUE. SO FOR THIS REASON, I, YOU KNOW, I REQUEST THE BOARD TO NOT APPROVE THIS EXPANSION. WE WANT TO LIVE IN A SAFE, TRANSPARENT, QUIET AND TECHNICALLY SOUND PLACE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE LEAH CHAPPELL.

HI. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UM, MY NAME IS LEAH SAPO. SAPO AND I LIVE AT 759 HILLSIDE COMMUNITY, AND I'M ON THE BOARD. SO I'M. AND, UH, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD AND TO PAUL FEINER. LAST TIME YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT OUTSIDE OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE FLOODING HERE, THAT, UM, WITH THE KNOWLES ISSUE AND CONCERN, UM, THAT YOU WOULD TAKE TIME TO DO A DEEPER

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I. THINK THAT'S IT. I'M JUST GOING TO STOP READING. I KNOW, BUT I WORKED ON IT. UM, BUT YEAH. SO I KNOW LAST TIME I STEPPED AWAY AND I ABDICATED MY LAST 2.5 MINUTES. SO IF ANYBODY'S GOING TO SAY ANYTHING AND I, I'LL, I DON'T WANT TO COMPLETELY ABDICATE THIS IN CASE I HAVE ANOTHER THOUGHT. I HAD TO WAIT TWO WEEKS TO SAY WHAT I JUST SAID. UM, AS SOON.

AS YOU WALK AWAY. THAT'S IT. YEAH. SO I REMEMBER JUST SOMEBODY SOMEBODY'S GOING TO ADDRESS THIS. AND SO THAT'S THE END OF THE STORY. OR SOMEBODY MIGHT CHOOSE TO ADDRESS IT. AND DO WE HAVE A TOWN ENGINEER RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS STATED WE WERE KIND OF IN BETWEEN OR.

OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR.

ANYTHING. WE SHOULD WE HAVE. WE HAVE AN ENGINEER IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND RATHER THAN WAIT TWO WEEKS, IF. YOU.

AND RATHER THAN WAIT TWO WEEKS IF YOU PUT IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, IF YOU THINK OF ANY MORE, YOU CAN PUT IT IN WRITING. TO US.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE IT. UM. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE IRISH SLINGER. SLINGER.

OH, I DID SOME SLIDES. UH, TO TURN. OKAY.

TERENCE. SLIDES FOR IRIS. YEAH. HERE THEY GO.

COME ON UP. HERE WE GO.

OH, IT'S VERY NARROW. OKAY, WELL, THIS IS PART OF A DOWNWARD SLOPE FROM THE KNOWLES PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S THE SAME ONE. THIS IS THE RETENTION WALL THAT WAS BUILT TO AVOID THE WATER FROM COMING DOWN. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S A NICE SUNNY DAY, BUT WATER IS STILL COMING DOWN, ENDING UP TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT OF THAT WALL UNTIL HILLSIDE AVENUE.

THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL. YOU CAN SEE THE WALL FURTHER DOWN AND THE HOW WET IT IS ON A BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY.

NEXT SLIDE. GOT THE LAST.

ONE THAT I GOT. YOU DIDN'T GET THAT. I GOT.

I HAVE THEM ALL HERE. I SENT LIKE 6 OR 7.

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THEY'RE ALL IN THAT. THEY WERE ALL IN THAT. UH WELL I'LL JUST TELL YOU THEN SHOOT. OKAY. I HAVE A EMAIL SENT BY THE TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT BECAUSE THERE WAS, UM, THE ROAD COLLAPSE BETWEEN HILLSIDE AVENUE ON HILLSIDE AVENUE, BETWEEN VIRGINIA ROAD AND LEGION DRIVE. IT WAS VERY CLOSE, MAYBE 25 YARDS FROM, UH, THAT WALL. AND IT WAS A RESULT OF THE WALL THAT GOES THERE. UH, TOM USED TO OWN THE GAS STATION ON THE CORNER OF VIRGINIA ROAD, AND HE ACTUALLY CLOSED IT AND MOVED TO COLUMBUS AVENUE IN VALHALLA BECAUSE HIS GAS STATION WAS ALWAYS FLOODED. AND HE COULDN'T MAKE A LIVING. UH, THE OTHER PICTURE I HAVE, I'M HAPPY TO SHOW ON MY PHONE IF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IT, IS A BIG TREE THAT FELL DOWN ONTO HILLSIDE AVENUE.

BLOCKED TRAFFIC ON HILLSIDE. WHEN YOU COME OUT OF BALTIMORE, YOU CAN MAKE A RIGHT OR LEFT. IF THE LEFT IS CLOSED, YOU CAN GO TO THE RIGHT, BUT THEN YOU'RE DRIVING ALL THE WAY AROUND AND THEN THE TOWN EVENTUALLY CUT THE TREE DOWN.

AND, UH, OUR TAXES PAID FOR IT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S A STATE ROAD.

AND THAT CAME FROM, UH, THE KNOWLES PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE BIG ONE. I WILL WALK UP AND.

SHOW IF IT WAS. YOU SAID IT CAME FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY.

IF IT CAME FROM THE KNOLLS PROPERTY, WHY WOULD THE TOWN HAVE, UH. THERE WERE TWO TREES, TWO BIG TREES THAT. YOU HAVE TO BE IN FRONT OF THE.

MICROPHONE. I'M THINKING. THAT THE TOWN TOOK CARE OF AND PAID FOR. OKAY. AND THE REASON I WAS TOLD IS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT FOR THE STATE TO TAKE IT DOWN. IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ROAD FOR AMBULANCES AND STUFF. JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT THE NOLES PROPERTY. IT'S THE STATE PROPERTY.

NO. UH.

IT'S THE STATE PROPERTY. HILLSIDE AVENUE IS THE STATE, BUT THE TREES WERE ON THE NOLES PROPERTY THAT LANDED ON. AND THIS PICTURE, OKAY, IS. THE PICTURE THAT.

UP? IT WAS RIGHT. THAT'S THE. ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

IT WAS ON THE STATE ROAD. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE. YEAH.

THIS ONE. YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE ON THE RIGHT NOW. THEY'LL GO BACK TO THE ONE YOU HAD. UH.

THAT'S THE FENCE AT BALLYMORE. THAT'S FROM A LANDSLIDE, WHICH HOPEFULLY HE FINDS THE SLIDE AND CAN SHOW YOU.

WHAT? THAT'S. BALLYMORE IS RIGHT NEXT TO, UM, THE CONDOMINIUM, AND THE SLIDE IS THE. THE DIRT IS WHERE THEY BUILT THE RETENTION. WON'T. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY, THAT'S.

IT. SHOWS A LOT BETTER ON MY. THAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE SLOPE. THAT'S FROM THE CAR. YOU CAN SEE HOW HIGH UP IT'S GOING.

IT'S REALLY A HILL. YOU KNOW. AND I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT LAWS AND PROPERTY DESIGNATIONS, BUT I KNOW WHAT A GOOD NEIGHBOR IS. AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR DOESN'T CAUSE THIS KIND OF STUFF TO HAPPEN TO THEIR OTHER NEIGHBORS. UM, THE ONE WHERE YOU SEE THE FLOOD AFTERWARDS. YEAH. THIS ONE, THAT'S THE WALL THEY BUILT. IT'S NOT STOPPING ANYTHING. THERE'S ACTUALLY A FIRE HYDRANT FOR A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE.

ROAD, WHERE. ALL THE STUFF THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UNDERGROUND ISN'T UNDERGROUND ANYMORE.

OKAY. IS THAT MY FIVE MINUTES? NO THANK YOU. FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IN WRITING. IF YOU.

NEED. I ON ON THAT. I'LL BE I'LL BE VERY QUICK ON THAT. ASK YOUR TOWN ENGINEER WHERE THAT WATER IS COMING FROM. YOUR TOWN ENGINEER HAS WALKED THAT SITE.

I HAVE AN EMAIL THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.

THAT'S NOT THE NOISES WATER, BUT IT KEEPS HAPPENING. THEY KEEP SAYING, OH, IT'S THE NOSE. IT'S A.

SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY, WHERE DO YOU THINK IT'S COMING FROM? THERE'S A, THERE'S A STORMWATER, MA'AM. THERE'S A STORMWATER BASIN ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. THAT STORMWATER BASIN IS OVERFLOWING, RUNNING DOWN THE HILL ON HILLS, ON THE HILLSIDE ALONG HILLSIDE AVENUE. AND THEN EVENTUALLY HITS THE TOP, WHICH IS NOT THE KNOLLS PROPERTY. OVER TOPS COMES ON TO THE KNOLL PROPERTY AND THEN FALLS ONTO THAT SLOPE. THAT'S WHY WE BUILT

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UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ROBERT. RONNIE.

SMOKE SMOKING GUN FOR YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I NEED SOME WATER BEFORE I BEGIN. UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. RESIDENTS SPEAK AND BOARD MEMBERS LISTEN. THAT IS THE ENTIRE FORMAT. IF MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WHILE RESIDENT IS AT THE PODIUM, EVEN IF IT'S ABOUT SOMETHING THE RESIDENT HAS SAID, JOT IT DOWN ON A NOTEPAD AND HAVE IT AFTER THE RESIDENT HAS FINISHED SPEAKING.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO LISTEN ACTIVELY WHILE POLITELY WHISPERING AT THE SAME TIME. THE FACT THAT I HAVE TO EVEN EXPLAIN THIS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IS RATHER EMBARRASSING. TWO WEEKS AGO, THE LEGAL COUNSEL REPRESENTING THE NOLES LOOKED AT THIS ROOM AFTER RESIDENTS RAISED REAL SUBSTANTIVE CONCERNS. HE COULDN'T ANSWER NOR REFUTE AND SAID, AND I QUOTE, THIS IS A DEMOCRACY AT ITS FINEST. ANYONE CAN COME UP TO A MICROPHONE AND SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT, NO MATTER HOW INACCURATE IT IS. END QUOTE. THAT IS A TRAIN LITIGATOR TELLING THE RESIDENTS OF THIS TOWN WHO HAVE LIVED UNFORTUNATE EXPERIENCES DIRECTLY RESULTING FROM THEIR CLIENT'S LACK OF ACTIONS, AND THAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN JUST NOISE, A PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO DENIGRATE, THEN DENIGRATE THE TOWN CITIZENS SAY THAT TO OUR FACES AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME ANSWER THE ANSWER THE CONCERNS INSTEAD.

WHAT GUIDES LAND USE DECISION MAKING ISN'T ONLY EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, IT'S ALSO THE PROPERTY'S HISTORY OF MAINTENANCE. OR, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, LACK THEREOF.

THE NOLS LEGAL COUNSEL HAS HAS BUILT HIS ENTIRE STRATEGY ON ONE LINE, REPEATED LIKE A MANTRA. RESIDENTS ARE TALKING WITHOUT OBJECTIVE FACT. OBJECTIVE FACTS. FINE. HERE ARE THE FACTS THAT I WANT TO DIRECT THE ANSWER TO EACH ONE ON THE RECORD TONIGHT, MULTIPLE ACTIVE VIOLATIONS NOT DISPUTED. NOT ALLEGED, ACTIVE VARIANCES EXIST TO LIMIT STORMWATER RUNOFF. SO WHAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM WHEN RUNOFF INCREASES AFTER THIS PROJECT IS BUILT? WHO PAYS FOR THE DAMAGE? WHO LOSES THEIR LICENSE? IF COUNCIL COOPER IS SO CONFIDENT IN HIS NUMBERS, IS HE WILLING TO PUT HIS LAW LICENSE BEHIND THAT GUARANTEE? THE SAME WAY THE ENGINEERS SIGNING OFF ON THIS PROJECT ARE STAKING THEIRS? WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE ANSWER THIS BOARD IS GIVEN THROUGH ITS SILENCE IS NOBODY. HE ALSO LIKES TO REMIND EVERYONE THIS PROJECT HAS, QUOTE, UNDERGONE 16 MONTHS OF REVIEW, GOING ON 17 AS OF TONIGHT, AND SIX TOWN ENGINEERS, END QUOTE. THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT. THAT'S A STALL TACTIC DRESSED UP AS DILIGENCE.

16 MONTHS OF REVIEW DIDN'T STOP A STATE ENGINEER FROM FINDING IN WRITING THAT THE NOSE. EXISTING DETENTION POND IS ALREADY FAILING A SMOKING GUN OF SORTS. THE EMAIL BEFORE YOU DATES BACK TO FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025, TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE INCEPTION OF THE CURRENT PROPOSED EXPANSION PROJECT. NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEER, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER LANCE MCMILLAN EMAILED PAUL FEINER AND OTHERS AFTER THE HILLSIDE AVENUE LANDSLIDE, EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM PROPERTIES, NAMELY THE KNOLLS PROPERTY AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, STORMWATER FACILITIES APPEAR TO BE FAILING. THIS IS THE DETENTION POND THAT LANGLAND PUT UP ON THE SCREEN, THEY SAID. THAT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN WORKING CONDITION. I THINK ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN CAN TELL YOU IT'S NOT THE KNOLLS PROPERTY. AT THE TOP OF THE HILL. STORAGE FACILITIES APPEAR TO BE FAILING, AND THE EXPLICIT RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TOWN ENGINEER AND CODE ENFORCEMENT REVIEW THAT AS BUILT PLANS, THAT LETTER HAS BEEN SITTING IN SOMEONE'S INBOX FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. WHILE THIS BOARD FAST TRACKED APPROVAL OF A SECOND DETENTION POND IN THE SAME PROPERTY. LET THAT SINK IN THE NOSE DUE TO THEIR NEGLIGENCE

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THANK YOU FOR. YOUR COMMENTS. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE THE FEBRUARY 19TH LETTER FROM THE STATE DOT SAYING THAT THE REGIONAL GEO TECHNICAL TEAM VISITED THE LOCATION OF THE LANDSLIDE. I REMEMBER THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP. UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? IT HAS A REGIONAL GEOTECHNICAL TEAM. UH, REVIEWED, YOU KNOW, THIS APPLICATION, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE THEY COMMENTED ON, YOU KNOW, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS RESIDENTS.

SUPERVISOR PONDER, JUST FINISH THE SENTENCE YOU WERE READING BECAUSE, UH, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME, BUT THE GENTLEMAN JUST INSERTED THE NOLES INTO THAT SENTENCE THAT THE SENTENCE SAYS EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF FROM THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES AT THE TOP OF THE HILL CAUSED THE RUNOFF.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID TO YOU BEFORE. THERE ARE PRIVATE PROPERTIES AT THE TOP OF THE HILL THAT HAVE DETENTION PONDS, NOT THE KNOLLS THAT ARE DISCHARGING DOWN. THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS AREA. THIS IS NOT SAYING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU TO. YOUR QUESTION IS TO HAS THE DOT REVIEWED THIS PROJECT? IT HAS WITH RESPECT TO THE PROJECT, WITH RESPECT TO, TO TRAFFIC. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM WHEN WE NEED A PERMIT FROM THEM FOR FOR THE PROJECT. WITH RESPECT TO FLOODING OR STORMWATER. THEY HAVEN'T REVIEWED THIS PROJECT WITH RESPECT TO HILLSIDE BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONNECTED. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES SOMEONE STANDS UP HERE, CALLS ME NAMES, OR SAYS I'M LYING OR OR YELLS OR SAYS IT LOUDER, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE SCIENCE. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE TOPOGRAPHY. NO, I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE LYING OR ANYTHING. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING. IS THAT WHAT IT. IS THERE ANY BETTER TO REASSURE RESIDENTS OF BELMAR? WOULD IT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ASK THE REGIONAL GEOTECHNICAL TEAM TO DO LIKE A SITE, YOU KNOW, A SITE VISIT AND THEN BASICALLY REVIEW SOME OF THE CONCERNS RESIDENTS HAVE? REVIEW WHITE GEAR RECOMMENDATION, WHAT YOU SAID YOU'D BE WILLING TO DO, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO REVIEW? TAKE A LOOK, INSPECT ALL THE TREES AND REMOVE ANY DEAD TREES. AND THEN THEY COULD SAY, OH, THIS IS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. OR THEY COULD SAY, MAYBE THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT THE TOWN, UM, OR, YOU, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL DO TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. I'M NOT I'M NOT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

YOUR TOWN ENGINEER HAS ALREADY DONE THAT. THERE IS, THERE IS A MEMO ON YOUR IN YOUR FILE, NOT IN THIS FILE. BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE PROJECT. BUT THERE IS A MEMO FROM YOUR TOWN ENGINEER THAT INSPECTED THE SITE, AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT WATER IS COMING FROM. THIS TOWN KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE THAT WATER IS. SO THE BENEFIT OF OF MAYBE MOVING THIS FORWARD INSTEAD OF RESPONDING TO EACH COMMENT, IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE ALL THE NOTES AND RESPOND TO THEM AT THE END, BUT ALSO TO MAYBE ADDRESS THIS POINT, UM, THESE, THESE TWO THINGS CAN RUN AT THE SAME TIME. YOU CAN ASK THE STATE TO COORDINATE WITH LOCAL OFFICIALS TO LOOK INTO STORMWATER CONCERNS. AS YOU MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING OR PREVIOUSLY, TO LOOK INTO THE BROADER CONCERNS ABOUT STORMWATER, UM, FROM AN ABUNDANCE OF PROPERTIES IN THE AREA AND CONCERNS ABOUT EROSION, ETC., WHATEVER IT IS.

UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TIE IT DIRECTLY TO THE SPECIFIC PROJECT WHERE THE TOWN ENGINEER HAS EVALUATED WHAT THE.

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I JUST I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. BEFORE YOU SAY IS, I WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT AGAIN. THIS IS WHY I THINK WE.

NEED TO HAVE OUR TOWN. ENGINEER, EVEN.

THOUGH HE'S ALREADY. OPINED HERE.

TO REASSURE OUR RESIDENTS. THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW HE OPINED. SO I WOULD. HOPE THAT WE COULD HAVE.

THAT INDIVIDUAL COME. AT OUR.

PUBLIC HEARINGS LIKE THESE. TO REALLY.

HEAR FROM HIM AND FOR REASSURANCE.

YOU KNOW. WE HAVE NO WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. IN FACT, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. INSTEAD OF ME SAYING IT, WHAT I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD RIGHT NOW IS, IS THE TOWN BOARD SAYING TO THIS APPLICANT THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THEIR THEIR APPLICATION FORWARD UNTIL SOMETHING IS DONE? WITH THE FLOODING ON HILLSIDE AVENUE? NO. IS THAT.

NO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST HEARD THE SUPERVISOR. SAID NO, I'M SAYING THAT I, I'M ASKING I, I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE STATE TOMORROW. I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE STATE, AND I'M GOING TO ASK THEM IF THEY COULD HAVE A TEAM, THE GEO TECHNICAL TEAM COULD MEET ME, UH, RESIDENTS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, BALLYMORE, UH, THE TOWN ENGINEER, AND WE COULD DO ANOTHER SITE, YOU KNOW, WALK.

AND THEN WE COULD BASICALLY SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSAL.

I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOUR YOUR OPINION ON, UM. UH, DO YOU THINK WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL THEY'LL THEY'LL PARTICIPATE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW. MR. SUPERVISOR, THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. I THINK.

THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. IT IS A SEPARATE IDEA FROM WHAT WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR, THOUGH. SO. BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD PURSUE IT. SO PLEASE DO I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REITERATE. IT, BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO GET THEIR OPINION BEFORE THERE'S A VOTE. AND, YOU KNOW, I COULD SPEED THIS UP. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A LENGTHY DELAYS. YOU KNOW, THIS THESE PROCESSES ALWAYS TAKE TIME, LAND USE. AND 90% OF THE TIME 95% OF THE TIME OF ALL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. WHEN I'VE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE USUALLY REACH A CONSENSUS ON PRACTICALLY EVERYTHING. WHEN PEOPLE TRUST WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

WITH MR. FEINER. I NEED TO I'M SORRY. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING LATE HERE, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THE APPLICANT TO TO SAY THAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS APPLICATION, THE BUILDING WAS 20. WHAT IS 20, 22FT CLOSER TO WHERE IT WAS YOUR BOARD SAID TO US, LOOK AT IT, TRY TO MOVE IT BACK. THE APPLICANT REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT GREAT COST. MOVE THE BUILDING BACK, MOVE THE ROAD BACK. THEN YOUR BOARD SAID TO THIS APPLICANT, LOOK INTO THE LANDSCAPING. WE WANT TO SEE YOU PLANT TALLER TREES. THEY AGREED TO THAT. THEN THIS BOARD SAID TO THEM, ALTHOUGH THE REGULATIONS SAY IT'S ONLY GOT TO BE TEN YEAR AND YOU'RE PROPOSING A 25 YEAR STORM PIPE, WE WANT TO SEE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM. AND THEY SAID, OKAY. YOU THEN SAID TO US TWO WEEKS AGO, TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN SURVEY THE TREES AND TAKE CARE OF THE TREES ON THOSE SITE, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW AS A BOARD THAT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT, WE CAME HERE TONIGHT AND SAID, WE CAN DO THAT. NO, BUT THAT'S GOOD. THEN WE'RE. YOU'RE.

MAKING IT BETTER EVERY SINGLE TIME WE COME HERE. YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING TO THE PUBLIC, OH, THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO US. THEY'RE NOT. NO, NO NO, NO, I SAID, I WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER. I BASICALLY WANT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING HEARD AND THEY'RE BEING LISTENED TO. AND I FEEL THAT EVERY TIME YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE, THAT'S GREAT. YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT. I'M NOT CRITICIZING THE FACT THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE MAKING THE PROJECT BETTER. IF WE WOULD HAVE JUST RAMMED IT THROUGH THREE MONTHS AGO OR FIVE MONTHS AGO, WE WOULD HAVE HAD A WORSE PROJECT. SO, SO SO THESE DELAYS ARE WORKING FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT, YOU KNOW WHAT. BUT BUT.

BUT SUPERVISOR, THERE GETS TO BE.

A TIPPING POINT. AT THAT GETS TO.

BE A TIPPING POINT AT WHICH THE APPLICANT.

HAS CERTAIN RIGHTS. AND WE ARE GOING BEYOND THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO COME. WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR WE HAVE.

TO HAVE. OUR.

WHAT ARE WE DOING. IF IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE EVERYONE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK AND COMMENT. MR. COOPER, IF YOU

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THANK YOU. WHO'S THE NEXT SPEAKER? UH, ZARA. HERCULES. HELLO.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS.

ZARA. HERCULES.

ZARA. H.E.R. CULES. OKAY.

GOOD EVENING. I'M A SHAREHOLDER AT 759 HILLSIDE AVENUE OWNERS INC., AND I APPRECIATE SUPERVISOR FINDER'S EMPHASIS ON FINDING A WIN WIN. I DON'T BELIEVE GROWTH AND PROTECTION OF THE EXISTING COMMUNITY HAVE TO BE OPPOSING GOALS. I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS TONIGHT. ONE. WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? TWO WHY THIS SCALE? AND THREE WHO PAYS THE FIRST ONE WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? THE APPLICANT HAS EXPLAINED THAT IT'S PROPOSED STORMWATER SYSTEM REDUCES POST DEVELOPMENT DISCHARGE AT FOUR DESIGN POINTS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT A DESIGN POINT IS NOT THE END OF THE WATER'S JOURNEY. ON JULY 21ST, DURING A FLASH FLOOD EVENT, GRASSLANDS ROAD EXPERIENCED A PARTIAL ROAD ROADWAY COLLAPSE IN THE LEGION DRIVE VIRGINIA ROAD CORRIDOR. THIS MAP EXPLAINS WHY I'M ASKING. HERE'S THE NOLES. HERE IS LEGION DRIVE, HERE IS VIRGINIA ROAD AND HILLSIDE AVENUE, AND HERE.

WAIT WAIT WAIT. WE'RE NOT SEEING WHAT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M NOT. SHOULD BE SHARING.

YEAH. OKAY. ARE WE ON PAUSE? OKAY. OKAY.

AM I STARTING OVER OR JUST CONTINUING? OKAY. SO, UH, THE REASON WHY I'M SHARING THIS MAP IS IT SHOWS. HERE'S THE NOLES HERE IS LEGION DRIVE, HERE IS VIRGINIA ROAD AND HILLSIDE AVENUE, AND HERE IS. THE CORRIDOR WHERE THE JULY FAILURE OCCURRED. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE APPLICANTS CAUSED THE FAILURE. I'M ASKING WHETHER THE TOWN ENGINEER AND THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER HAVE REVIEWED THAT RECENT FAILURE.

AND THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE INVOLVED WHEN EVALUATING THE RECEIVING SYSTEM FOR THIS PROJECT. YOU'VE SHOWN US DESIGN POINTS ONE THROUGH FOUR AND HOW MUCH THE WATER REACHES THEM.

BUT WHERE DOES THE WATER GO AFTER THOSE POINTS? WHO? WHAT RECEIVES IT? WHO OWNS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHERE DOES IT GO NEXT? YOU KEEP TELLING US WHERE THE WATER DOES NOT GO, BUT PLEASE TELL US WHERE THE WATER DOES GO. RELEVANT DRAINAGE AND ENGINEERING RECORDS ALSO REMAIN OUTSTANDING. AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY, THE DPW ENGINEERING REQUESTED ADDITIONAL TIME TO OBTAIN AND REVIEW RECORDS CONCERNING THE 759 HILLSIDE AVENUE AND LAWRENCE DRIVE DRAINAGE AND ENGINEERING CONDITIONS, SO DRAINAGE RECORDS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IS STILL DEVELOPING. THE SECOND THING IS WHY THIS SCALE? I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND TO GROW, BUT THIS APPLICANT HAS EXPLAINED WHY LOSING UNITS FROM ITS PROPOSED PROJECT AFFECTS THE ECONOMICS OF THAT UP PROJECT. BUT I THINK THERE'S A PLANNING QUESTION THAT COMES BEFORE THAT. DID THE SITE DETERMINE THE SCALE OR DID THE DESIRED SCALE DETERMINE WHAT THEY ARE NOW ASKING THE SITE AND THE TOWN TO ACCOMMODATE? THE QUESTION ISN'T SIMPLY WHETHER FEWER UNITS PRODUCE LESS REVENUE. THE QUESTION IS HOW IS THE APPROPRIATE SCALE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE DETERMINED IN THE FIRST PLACE? THIS PROPERTY HAS ITS OWN TOPOGRAPHY, STEEP SLOPES, NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRAINTS, AND IN ITS DECEMBER 3RD, 2025 RECOMMENDATION, THE PLANNING BOARD ITSELF CONTINUED EXPLORING. RECOMMENDED CONTINUE EXPLORING ALTERNATIVE LAYOUTS SO WE'RE SMALLER OR PHASED CONFIGURATIONS EVALUATED BASED ON THE ACTUAL CAPACITY AND THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE. THE APPROPRIATE SCALE SHOULD BE DERIVED FROM THE SITE, NOT WHERE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THE THIRD ONE IS WHO PAYS AT THE SEPTEMBER 15TH WORK SESSION, ANNUAL CERTIFICATION AND FINANCIAL SECURITY OR

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WHO PAYS THE FINANCIAL RISK DOESN'T DISAPPEAR SIMPLY BECAUSE WE CHOOSE NOT TO SECURE AGAINST IT. AND FINALLY, I HAVE ONE PROCEDURAL REQUEST. WHEN THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL STATES ON THE RECORD THAT SOMETHING HAS BEEN APPROVED, ACCEPTED, CLEARED, SIGNED OFF ON BY THE TOWN, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT HE IDENTIFY WHO PROVIDED THAT APPROVAL. WHAT SPECIFICALLY WAS APPROVED WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, AND WHERE THAT APPROVAL CAN BE FOUND ON THE RECORD. IT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO LOCATE THE UNDERLYING DOCUMENTS AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT GOVERNMENTAL ACTION IS BEING REFERENCED. I BELIEVE THERE IS ROOM FOR THE WIN WIN SUPERVISOR FEINER HAS DESCRIBED. GROWTH IS INEVITABLE. WE WANT TO GROW WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND NOT BE LEFT BEHIND, BEHIND, BEHIND. IT. WHAT WE NEED IS CLEAR ANSWERS.

WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? WHY THIS SCALE AND WHO PAYS? THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER, IF YOU GO OFF THE RECORD, PLEASE. BECAUSE THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HEARING. UH, I HAVE TO LEAVE, BUT I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD MY MY VOTES ON TB ONE, TB TWO.

TB, THREE TB, FOUR UH, BY THE WAY, IF.

YOU WANT TO JUST DO ALL THE VOTES NOW AND THIS. WAY AND THEN WE COULD. NO, I'M JUST SAYING TO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WANT TO PUT ON YOUR RECORD. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST. WE'LL TAKE FIVE MINUTES. OUR TIME IS ALSO VERY VALUABLE.

IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. OKAY.

I CAN JUST BUT JUST. IF THERE'S SOMETHING BE HELD OVER, JUST LET ME KNOW. RIGHT? TB ONE, TB. TWO.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT WITH. THE OKAY T ONE, TB TWO TV THREE TB ZL1 CO2 CL THREE SEAL FOUR. YOU CAN GIVE ME YOUR PROXY.

CD ONE AS AMENDED. UM, THE WORDING IS NOT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY. UM, WE'RE HOLDING OVER CD TWO, RIGHT, RIGHT. CD THREE, AS AMENDED CD FOUR IS BEING HELD OVER CR ONE.

CO ONE CO2 CO THREE, CO FOUR, PR ONE UH PL ONE PO TWO, PO THREE. GO FOR PO 50607 UH ONE AS AMENDED P TWO, P.W. THREE FOUR. AND I BELIEVE, JOEY, WE'RE HOLDING OVER FIVE AND P.W. SIX. YES.

SO THOSE ARE MY, UM, MY VOTES. I'LL LEAVE THEM HERE. UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR HEARING, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD CLOSE THE HEARING WITH RESPECT TO THE ZONING CHANGE AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN ON ALL OF THE PURPOSES. I MEAN, THE HEARING OPEN ON ALL OF THE PURPOSES. DID YOU STATE YOUR VOTE ON THOSE, OR WAS IT I OR. OH.

WELL, WHENEVER IF THAT MOTION IS MADE, I'M NOT HERE TO MAKE IT. WELL, YOU SAID THAT IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. HAS HIS PROPOSAL. RIGHT. WELL LET'S WE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, A QUICK AND MAY ASK A QUESTION. JUST AN EXECUTIVE. ORDER. IT'S RIDICULOUS HAVING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. TO GET. LEGAL ADVICE, TO GET LEGAL ADVICE. RIGHT. AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT THAT WILL TAKE VERY LONG. BUT MAYBE FRANCIS CAN.

JOIN US. THERE ARE STILL.

AFTER WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. YEAH.

NEXT SPEAKER IS ERICA. FINALLY, SHE'S.

THIS IS ERICA BAKSHI REPORTING FROM FAIRVIEW OR THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG. THERE ARE MULTIPLE LAWSUITS AGAINST KNOLLS, 75 SENIOR HOUSING. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 22 DOCUMENTED HEALTH INSPECTION VIOLATIONS. AND FEDERAL FINES REGARDING THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. HILLSIDE AVENUE EXPERIENCES A FAIR VOLUME OF TRAFFIC EACH DAY. WE KEEP HEARING LOTS OF VEHICLES PASSING, EVEN AT LATE NIGHT, AND SOMETIMES THE HONKS OF THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE SUPER LOUD, ESPECIALLY DURING THE QUIETNESS OF THE NIGHT OR VERY EARLY MORNING. IN THE LAST HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, A SENIOR PRO KNOLLS WOMAN SAID THAT SENIORS DON'T PARTY LATE OR DON'T DRIVE MUCH, SO HOW COME WE WILL HEAR ADDITIONAL HONKS OR EXTRA TRAFFIC? WELL, THEY'RE RELATIVES, FRIENDS, DOCTORS AND AMBULANCES OR ANY OTHER EMERGENCY VEHICLES CANNOT BE STOPPED OR FORBIDDEN.

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REGARDING FLOODING, BETHEL HAS PROPOSED TO BUILD A POND TO CATCH THE EXCESS RAINWATER. IT IS DESIGNED FOR CATCHING NINE INCHES OF RAINFALL OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD. HOWEVER, OUR CONCERN IS FOR FLASH FLOOD SITUATIONS THAT ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE COMMON THESE DAYS AND IN THE FUTURE.

THUNDERSTORMS THAT CAUSE FLASH FLOODS DUMP MORE THAN 3 TO 4IN OF RAIN WITHIN AN HOUR, AND LAST ONLY FOR AN HOUR OR TWO.

BETHEL ENGINEERS MUST SHOW THAT THEIR POND WILL BE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT HIGH RATE OF RAINFALL. OTHERWISE THE EXCESS WATER WILL FLOW DOWN GRASSLANDS ROAD AND HILLSIDE AVENUE AND WORSEN THE FLASH FLOODS THAT OUR PROPERTIES ARE FACING IN INCREASING FREQUENCY THESE DAYS. WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED CLIMATE CHANGE AND ITS SEVERE IMPACT. CLIMATE CHANGE IS A MAJOR CONCERN NOW. GLOBAL WARMING CAN HARDLY BE CONTROLLED. GLOBAL WARMING INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD AND SEVERITY OF FLASH FLOODS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF WARMER ATMOSPHERE HOLDS MORE MOISTURE, LEADING TO HEAVIER DOWNPOURS AND MORE EXTREME RAINFALL EVENTS. THIS DIRECTLY RAISES THE RISK OF SUDDEN AND INTENSE FLOODING. PUBLIC OUTRAGE IS CENTERED ON TRAFFIC AND PARKING CHANGES. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

EXAMPLE. TREE REMOVAL PERMITS NEIGHBORHOOD DENSITY AND EFFECTS ON LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE. THESE CONCERNS ARE TYPICAL FOR ZONING HEARINGS. KNOLLS IS BASICALLY RIPPING APART THE TRUST OF THE SENIORS. ESTIMATED MONTHLY PRICES AT THE KNOLLS IN WESTCHESTER RANGE FROM 4991 FOR A STUDIO TO 7731 FOR A TWO BEDROOM ASSISTED LIVING UNIT.

THEY ARE ALSO BUILDING AN AUDITORIUM FOR ENTERTAINMENT.

SO WE SEE THAT KNOLLS IS SIMPLY A MONEY MAKING SCHEME AND NOTHING ELSE. AT OUR LAST HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, IT'S ALL ON RECORDS THAT THEY SAID THAT THE FLASH FLOOD WATER IS NOT KNOLLS. IT'S COMING FROM A DIFFERENT PROPERTY. THE POINT TO BE NOTED IS THAT IF THEY ARE IN A CONSTANT DENIAL MODE, THEN YOU CAN IMAGINE TO WHAT EXTENT THEY WILL FALSIFY OUR LEGITIMATE CLAIMS WITH FAKE LOGIC AND STATISTICS. THE ENGINEERS SHOULD BE A FIDUCIARY, WHICH MEANS CARE, CANDOR AND LOYALTY. ONE MORE THING REGARDING FLOODING IS THAT SOIL ABSORBS WATER, BUT CONCRETE REJECTS IT, AND THE WATER POURS DOWNHILL DUE TO THE FORCE OF GRAVITY. THIS IS A FAULTY ZONING MONEYMAKING SCHEME AND INCONVENIENCING THE ENTIRE AREA FOR SOME PETTY PERSONAL GAINS. IT'S SO SELFISH AND ULTRA PATHETIC. LAST TIME, COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEHAN SAID THAT NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CHECK THE FLOODING. WELL, YOU GUYS CAN DISAPPROVE THE PROJECT THAT IS UNDER YOUR CONTROL. AND YOU CAN DO THAT FOR THE 40,000 VOTERS AND TAXPAYERS OF THE UNINCORPORATED GREEN PARK. THERE WILL BE AN ELECTION IN 2027 AND 28 FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL. AND IF OUR DEMANDS ARE NOT FULFILLED, THEN PROBABLY YOU WILL GET UNSEATED. AND THAT IS CALLED DEMOCRACY, OR THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. SO YOU DECIDE THAT WHETHER YOU WILL TRICK US OR YOU WILL TREAT US, IF YOU TRICK US, THEN YOU KNOW YOU ARE OVER AND OUT. AND IF YOU TREAT US, THEN PROBABLY YOU WIN AGAIN. YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE ELECTED YOU BY OUR VOTES. WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE THE TAXPAYERS WHOSE PETTY CASH YOU GUYS ARE ENJOYING. SHAME ON YOU.

WOW, THAT WAS QUITE A PERFORMANCE.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE CHAKRABARTI.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JACOB. STARTS WITH S A KAIB. LAST NAME IS BHARTI B A T I BHARTI. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. UM. AND ALSO MR. FREEMAN, CHAIRMAN, WHO IS NOT HERE. UH, HE HAD TO LEAVE. I NOTED THAT, UH, RESPECT THAT

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THANK YOU TO. THEY ARE NOT HERE NOW. UM. THANK YOU, MISTER PAUL. I THINK YOU ARE ADDRESSING IT. THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, WHICH IS THE TRUST IT IS FOR THIS PEOPLE. EVERYONE IN HERE, THE OLDER NICE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE BEFORE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD TO LEAVE. OF COURSE, I RESPECT THAT AS WELL. THEY HAVE TO GO AND REST. AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO OTHER RESIDENTS WHO ARE BEING AFFECTED WITH THIS. SO WE ALL HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, ALL THAT PARTICIPATION. I DO ALSO RESPECT. UM, UM, THE APPLICANT WHO ARE HERE SPENDING TIME AND OF COURSE THE THEIR ATTORNEYS. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO BUILD THAT TRUST. AND WHEN I SAY WE IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. IT'S NOT ABOUT THEM, THEM, THEY OR YOU. IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US. US, YOU, US IS WHAT IT, UH, COMPOSERS OF. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS DO THE RIGHT THING, DO THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT IS REQUIRED. AND AGAIN, I WOULD WELCOME WHAT YOU HAVE SAID THE LAST TIME THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE, UH, A REVIEW, AN INVESTIGATION. WHAT I'M HERE IS TO AGAIN QUESTION WHERE THAT IS, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AFTER THAT? THERE WAS I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT THREE WEEKS. IT HAS SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL BEEN DONE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD GIVE ME THE TRUST THAT YES, YOU GUYS ARE DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. AND AGAIN, THEY ARE DOING THE RIGHT TICKS IN THE RIGHT BOXES SO AS TO MOVE ON.

NOBODY'S AGAINST THE OLD ASSISTED LIVING. I WILL GROW OLD ONE DAY. MY PARENTS WERE THEY PASSED AWAY. EVERYBODY WILL HOPEFULLY IF THEY IF THEY SEE ANOTHER LIGHT OF THE DAY.

RIGHT. SO IT WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN. WHAT I WANT TO MENTION IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, UM, AS ONE OF THE, UM, SPOKESMEN DID MENTION ABOUT A REPORT, THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER REPORT. THERE IS ALSO A REPORT BY THE NYC, WHICH DOES SAY THAT THE HILLSIDE AVENUE AND VIRGINIA ROAD INTERSECTION IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT PART OF OF IT, A SORRY, IT IDENTIFIES THAT INTERSECTION AS OPERATIONAL CONSTRAINT AT THE AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION INVOLVING WESTBOUND ROAD TRAFFIC. SO IF THAT HAS NOT COME TO TO THE ATTENTION, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT UP. AND I WOULD WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS A RESPONSIBLE NEIGHBOR, I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED MAYBE I WOULD GIVE THE CHANCE, MAYBE IT'S NOT THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE I WOULD DEFINITELY INVITE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THOSE 22 VIOLATIONS THAT WERE CITED LAST TIME, OR AT LEAST MENTIONED? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, AS A RESPONSIBLE MY NEIGHBOR, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT IT? IF I GET A CITATION, IF I GET AN INFRACTION, I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THE DEER APPLICANT TO SHOW THAT. I WOULD ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT, VALDEMAR, THERE IS ONLY ONE EGRESS AND INGRESS, RIGHT? THERE'S ONLY ONE EXIT AND ENTRANCE. IF SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN TO THAT ROAD, MY FAMILY, MY RESIDENTS AROUND THERE WILL GET STUCK ON A FINE DAY. THAT'S FINE. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS AN EMERGENCY? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO QUESTION WHY ME OR MY OTHER NEIGHBORS DID NOT. ALL OF THE VALLEY RESIDENTS DID NOT GET A NOTICE ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WE ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW MANY YARDS I AM AWAY FROM MY FROM FROM THE KNOLLS PROPERTY. BUT BECAUSE MY INGRESS AND EGRESS ARE DOES COME INTO PLAY DIRECTLY WITH THAT PROPERTY, I WOULD LIKE TO QUESTION THAT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER ON THAT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO REQUEST, UH, INVESTIGATION OR A REVIEW ABOUT THAT. KNOWLES, INVOLVEMENT IN PUTTING THE MONEY FOR THAT BUILD OF THE LANDSLIDE, WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? AND THAT BE PUBLICLY SHARED? I WANT TO KNOW WHY DID THEY CONTRIBUTE SO INVESTIGATION, PLEASE. THANK YOU. JUST TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS. SO THERE WERE ONLY TWO VIOLATIONS ISSUED

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EVEN AIRPORT. OH. WELL, WE'LL BE OUT BY FOUR, SO DON'T. WORRY. YOU'RE ALL APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. YEAH. I WANT TO GO. THANK YOU.

UH, TERRENCE, CAN YOU CHANGE YOU FOR, UM, HECTOR? OOGIE? YES. OH, I DON'T KNOW IF THOMAS.

OKAY. CAN I JUST JUST. I'LL TAKE THE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY. JUST A QUESTION. AND I THINK, UH, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, A WHILE BACK THAT IF THERE'S A VIOLATION THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, UH, FINALIZE A PROJECT, THIS TWO. RIGHT? IF THERE'S TWO, UH, PENDING VIOLATIONS, ARE WE ABLE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW? IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN? ACTUALLY, YOU CAN. SO WHEN WHEN THE ACTOR TAKES STEPS TO REMEDY THE VIOLATION, YOU ARE PERMITTED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE PENDING SITE PLAN AND OTHER ASSOCIATED APPROVALS. OKAY, OKAY.

UM. HECTOR G.

UM, I HANDED YOU A REPORT. THAT REPORT IS ACTUALLY THE TRAFFIC STUDY FROM 1997, WHEN THE WESTCHESTER MEADOWS WAS BEING DEVELOPED. BEFORE THIS TOWN, UH, WHICH THEN WAS WESTCHESTER MEADOWS WAS TAKEN OVER BY, UH, UH, THE KNOLLS. SO THAT'S THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC STUDY BY SECTION SHIFT, WHICH A LARGE PRIVATE FIRM THAT MERGED WITH BHB AND OTHER LARGE, UH, FIRM. SO AGAIN, HECK, DOUG, UH, GOOD EVENING. UM, I HOPE MY COMMENTS ACTUALLY LEAD TO ANSWERS, BECAUSE IN SEVERAL AREAS I'M REPEATING SOME ISSUES. BUT I'M GOING TO BE QUICK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THEM. UM, BEFORE I MOVED INTO FACILITY MANAGEMENT, I ACTUALLY I WORKED AS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR MORE THAN A DECADE FOR THE AGENCY. I WORKED FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY.

UH, I WAS A MEMBER OF THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS EVEN LONGER. I UNDERSTAND HOW TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE PUT TOGETHER, HOW TRIP GENERATION ASSUMPTIONS ARE SELECTED, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTUALLY PERFORMING A TRAFFIC STUDY ON AN AREA AND SIMPLY MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT IT. UH, BRIGHT FEW GRASSLANDS. I'VE MENTIONED THIS. THIS THE TRAFFIC STUDY APPLIES A NURSING HOME TRIP GENERATION FACTOR TO THE ENTIRE 170 UNIT BRIGHT FIELD DEVELOPMENT. EVEN THOUGH APPROXIMATELY 89 OF THE UNITS ARE FULL OF SENIOR APARTMENTS, THE APPLICANT ALREADY HAS ACTUAL TRAFFIC DATA FROM THE KNOLLS ITSELF, WHICH IS FAR MORE SPECIFIC AND RELEVANT THAN THE NURSING HOME FACTOR. IF THE CORRECT ASSUMPTIONS ARE USED, BRIGHT VIEWS TRAFFIC IMPACT IS APPROXIMATELY 2 OR 3 TIMES WHAT IS STATED IN THE CURRENT ANALYST'S ANALYSIS. IT'S MEANINGFUL, PARTICULARLY WHEN LOOKING AT A TRAFFIC AT LEGION DRIVE. IT BRINGS YOU TO THE BIGGER ISSUE, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS. WESTCHESTER COUNTY SPECIFICALLY RAISED THE GRASSLANDS ROAD AND LEGION DRIVE INTERSECTION AND RECOMMENDED THAT IT'D BE INCLUDED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

BUT EVERY TIME LEGION DRIVE IS IS RAISED, INSTEAD OF AN ACTUAL STUDY, WE GET AVOIDANCE COMMENTS. THE IMPACT WILL BE INSIGNIFICANT. STUDY IT. AND NOW WE HAVE THE NEW INFORMATION WHICH I JUST HANDED YOU. THE ORIGINAL 97 WESTCHESTER MEADOWS TRAFFIC STUDY. UM, I HANDED YOU RIGHT NOW THE BOARD A SHORT SUMMARY TONIGHT OF THE KEY PORTIONS HIGHLIGHTED, UM, I SPECIFICALLY ASK YOU TO PAGE THE DAWG. PAGE PAGE SIX. THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS APPROVED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT TRAFFIC MITIGATION WOULD OCCUR ON GRASSLANDS ROAD, INCLUDING THE LEFT TURN LANE. THE PROTECTED LEFT AT THE SITE ENTRANCE, AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT LEGION DRIVE FOR SAFETY. UH. THE ORIGINAL STUDY ALSO SHOWED THAT LEGIA DRIVE APPROACH AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE F FAIL. IT'S A IT'S AN F GRADE.

NOW, ALMOST 30 YEARS LATER, THE LEFT TURN LANE WAS NEVER BUILT, AND THE LEGION DRIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WAS NEVER INSTALLED.

EVERYBODY YOU KNOW MENTIONS HOW DANGEROUS IT IS. AND NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD BY THE NOLES TRAFFIC, UH, CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THE TRAFFIC ON GRASSLANDS ROAD. AND I POINTED OUT IN THE FIRST PAGE IS SOMEHOW LOWER THAN IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO. THE REPORT, PEAK HOUR RATES IN 2025, 10%, 20% LOWER THAN THEY WERE IN 1997. WELL, LET ME UNDERSTAND THIS.

THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS APPROVED WITH TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN THAT 97 REPORT. LEGION DRIVE APPROACH WAS ALREADY NOTED AS LEVEL OF SERVICE F. THE MIDGET MITIGATIONS WERE SUPPOSED TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS. THEY WERE NEVER BUILT, AND NOW WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT TRAFFIC

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IF THIS ROADWAY WILL NOT CREATE A SIGNIFICANT NOISE IMPACT AND THEN DEMONSTRATE IT. AT THIS POINT, I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO ACCEPT. NOW, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO ACCEPT MY TRAFFIC AND ANALYSIS. I'M ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO COMPLETE THEIRS. WE HAVE A BRIGHT VIEW ASSUMPTION THAT UNDERESTIMATES TRAFFIC. WE HAVE A LEAD TO DRIVE INTERSECTION AT THE COUNTY ASKED TO BE STUDIED, HASN'T BEEN STUDIED. I JUST GAVE YOU EXCERPTS. BUT THE WHOLE THING IS AVAILABLE. 1997 RECORDS SHOWING LEVEL OF SERVICE F AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTION. EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT AND TRAFFIC MITIGATIONS THAT NEVER OCCURRED. AND WE HAVE A NEW ROADWAY DIRECTLY BEHIND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH NO PROFESSIONAL NOISE ANALYSIS. AT SOME POINT, WISHFUL THINKING ABOUT IMPACTS SHOULDN'T BE IMPERCEPTIBLE. IT'S NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR ANALYSIS. BEFORE THE TOWN CONCLUDES THAT TRAFFIC AND ROADWAY IMPACTS HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED, THESE QUESTIONS DESERVE ACTUAL ANSWERS. AGAIN, I'M JUST GIVING YOU FACTS.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE SHERRY YUJI. YES YOU ARE FOUR HOURS OF THIS.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT.

SHERRY, IS THAT. IS THAT A PIZZA FOR US? PIZZA? I WILL EXPLAIN. IS THIS TWO.

COPIES? NO, IT'S THE TWO. I'M GONNA COLLECT. FRESH AIR.

OKAY? YEAH, THAT'S WHY I. ASKED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO? SO I'M LOOKING. AT THIS SEMESTER.

SO THIS IS HIS COPIES HERE. THIS IS HIS COPIES HERE.

AMANDA, YOU HAVE A FOLDER. ARE YOU COLLECTING A FOLDER? THANK YOU. UM. I HAVE A I MEAN, I HAVE A.

FOLDER FOR. IS THIS EVERYTHING IN CONTRAST? THAT'S EXCELLENT.

YES. GOOD EVENING. SHERRY UGI THREE STEVENS LANE. LET THE RECORD SHOW. I HAVE JUST HANDED 201 PAGES TO THE TOWN CLERK FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THIS PROJECT. THESE ARE ALL THE LETTERS AND COMMENTS I HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED AND MADE OVER THE LAST 16 MONTHS. TONIGHT I WILL TOUCH ON STORMWATER, BUT I PRIMARILY WANT TO DISCUSS VISUAL IMPACTS TO MY HOME. STORMWATER. IT IS TROUBLING.

THE APPLICANT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE EXISTING STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE SERVING ITS PROPERTY TODAY. LAST WEEK IN THE TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION, I HAD TO SHOW THEM ON A MAP THEIR OWN STORMWATER POND BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY DIDN'T KNOW IT. I ALSO HAD TO POINT OUT MISSING STORMWATER FEATURES. THIS DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO MANAGE A MORE COMPLEX DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN THE FUTURE. TONIGHT, I AM ALSO SUBMITTING A 1998 NEW YORK STATE DOCUMENT. I FOUND, REFERRING TO A STREAM IN THE STEVENS LANE AREA. IF THERE IS AN OLD WATERCOURSE UNDERGROUND OR ABOVE, THIS CAN AFFECT DOWNHILL DRAINAGE TO GRASSLANDS AND THE STORMWATER DESIGN. THIS HAS NOT BEEN EXAMINED. MY MAIN ISSUE TONIGHT IS THE RENDERING THAT HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY SHOWN, AND MORE RECENT COMPUTER GENERATED VIEW, SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENTING THE IMPACT TO MY HOME. THIS IMAGE HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY STATED AS

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BUT RATHER THAN ARGUE ABOUT COMPUTER GRAPHICS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A REAL WORLD COMPARISON. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SORRY, MY ORDER AFTER THAT. YES. UH, LOOK AT THESE ELEVATED HOMES NEXT TO TOWN HALL. THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT I AM DEALING WITH. AND THESE ARE NORMAL HOUSES, YET THEIR MASS IS PLAINLY APPARENT EVEN FROM THE DISTANCE SHOWN. NOW IMAGINE THOSE HOUSES LARGER, LONGER, SEVERAL STORIES HIGHER, AND LINED WITH BALCONIES. NOW IMAGINE THIS IS YOUR BACK PATIO. WOULD YOU FEEL OVERLOOKED? OF COURSE YOU WOULD. NOW HERE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF GO BACK, PLEASE, TERENCE, TO THE ONE BEFORE.

IT. LOOK AT THE ACTUAL DISTANCES.

THOSE HOMES ARE ROUGHLY 250 TO 300FT FROM TOWN HALL. THE KNOLLS BUILDING SECTIONS FACING ME ARE APPROXIMATELY 190FT AND 275FT FROM MY ACTUAL HOUSE. SO THE HOUSES NEXT TO TOWN HALL ARE FARTHER AWAY, MUCH SMALLER, AND HAVE NO ROWS OF BALCONIES.

YET YOU CAN CLEARLY STILL FEEL THEIR PRESENCE AND MASSING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT AGAIN. THE APPLICANT HAS REPEATEDLY SHOWED THIS RENDERING WITH MATURE LANDSCAPING AND FULL FOLIAGE. MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT POINTED OUT THAT THIS IMAGE REPRESENTS UPWARDS OF A DECADE OF GROWTH, SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT APPLICANT HAS. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS INCREASED TREES IN NUMBER AND SIZE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. THAT IS APPRECIATED. AND I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT. THE POINT IS, IT JUST DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. NEWLY PLANTED TREES, EVEN LARGER ONES, DO NOT PROVIDE THE SCREENING SHOWN IN THOSE RENDERINGS. AND MY PROPERTY IS DOWNHILL. THUS, EVEN MATURE LANDSCAPING DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF BALCONIES. LOOKING DOWN TOWARD MY HOME PATIO AND YARD. AND ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH LANDSCAPING IS MITIGATION. IT HAS TO SURVIVE. GIVEN THE HISTORY, I HAVE ZERO CONFIDENCE IN THIS. IN CLOSING, I HAVE AN ACTIVE ZONING BOARD APPEAL OF THIS PROJECT AND I WILL PURSUE IT FULLY. IN THE MEANTIME, I UNDERSTAND THIS BOARD HAS THE POWER TO CONDITION THIS APPLICATION. SO HERE IS JUST A START AND HOW YOU CAN HELP. FIRST, REMOVE ALL BALCONIES FACING A BUDDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SECOND, MAKE THE ROADWAY SEGMENT BEHIND MY HOME. EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY. THIRD, REPLACE THE TALL LIGHT POLES ALONG THE ROADWAY SEGMENT WITH LOW LEVEL GUARDRAIL HEIGHT LIGHTING THERE. THEY'RE 12FT TALL NOW. FOURTH REQUIRES STRONG THIRD PARTY OVERSIGHT OF BOTH STORMWATER MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPING MAINTENANCE. THESE ARE NOT EXTREME REQUESTS. THESE ARE PRACTICAL SITE PLAN CONDITIONS THAT RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY AND PROPOSED EXPANSION. THANK YOU.

I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF ANY OF THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS ARE, UH, SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO. SO WE WOULD CONSIDER.

ARE WE NOT DOING ALL OF THIS, I THINK JUST JUST CLARIFICATION.

ARE WE NOT DOING ALL OF THE ALL OF THE COMMENTS WE CAN ANSWER ALL AT ONCE? I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT.

WE AGREED TO. I'M JUST CURIOUS.

WELL. I KNOW YOU'RE CURIOUS, BUT LET'S HAVE. A PUBLIC SPEAKER.

CAN WE CAN. WE HEAR EVERYBODY? I THINK, IS THIS FAIR? AND THEN YOU CAN JUST COLLECTIVELY GIVE IT ALL? I THINK IT'S EASIER, RUN SMOOTHER THAT WAY.

WHO'S NEXT AFTER THAT? NO NO.

NO NO. , I DON'T THINK. ARE WE CLOSE? WELL, YOU COULD JUST. PUBLIC COMMENT.

ARE WE CLOSING. THE HEARING? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO. CLOSE THE AMANDA. WE CLOSE.

THEM HERE. IT DEPENDS.

OH, OKAY. I'M NOT SURE. WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM. WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM. WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM THEM? AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR NEXT. STEPS ARE. CHRISTINE ZAMBRANO.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE.

ZAMBRANO. ZAMBRANO.

I LIVE AT SIX STEFFENS LANE. AND MY.

MAIN CONCERN TONIGHT. WAS THE DILAPIDATED SHACK ON THE CORNER OF STEFFENS LANE AND. GRASSLANDS ROAD.

IS IT A GUARANTEE THAT IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN? I OVERHEARD THAT IT WAS IN THE PROJECT, BUT IS IT DEFINITELY GOING TO COME DOWN.? THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO ANSWER THAT. AND THEY.

SAID YES, BUT I HEARD THAT BEFORE HE DID. HE DID SAY.

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OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

IT WAS WORTH WAITING. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ERIC LINDSLEY. ERIC LINSLEY. LINSLE ERIC. ERIC. AS WE NEAR THE CONCLUSION OF THESE PROCEEDINGS, I FIND MYSELF DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR TOWN. WHEN I SAY OUR TOWN, I MEAN THE RESIDENTS, FAMILIES, BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BUILT THEIR LIVES HERE AND WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION. THIS IS OUR TOWN. THE BETHEL GROUP HAS PROVEN THAT THEY ARE NEITHER A FRIEND TO THIS COMMUNITY NOR A GOOD NEIGHBOR. IN FACT, THIS PROJECT HAS UNMASKED TROUBLING, A TROUBLING PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR, REVEALING MULTIPLE LEVELS OF MISREPRESENTATION AND THE TOTAL DISREGARD FOR OUR TOWN, WHICH IS DEEPLY ALARMING.

THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM DOWNSTREAM OF THE KNOLLS HAS BEEN FAILING US FOR DECADES, EVEN ON ITS BEST DAYS. WE'VE ALL SEEN IT IN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, NOW HAS TWO. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS RECENTLY FEATURED ON BOTH LOCAL AND NATIONAL TV NEWS. DURING THE SEVERE FLOODING JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. TWO WEEKS AGO, MR. SHEEHAN CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT SOME LEVEL OF LEVEL OF FUTURE FLOODING IS INEVITABLE.

NO MATTER WHAT ACTIONS WE TAKE. BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE MUST STOP THIS EXPANSION. INEVITABLE RISK DOES NOT PAVE THE WAY TO KNOWINGLY, TO KNOWINGLY MAKE THIS PROBLEM WORSE. COMMON SENSE DICTATES THAT WE PROTECT, PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND REFUSE TO ACCEPT PREVENTABLE DISASTERS AS OUR BASELINE. LOOK AT THE TEAM SITTING BEHIND ME. THEY REPRESENT MASSIVE RESOURCES. THEY ARE A GOLIATH. AND TODAY WE ARE ASKING YOU TO SHOW THE COURAGE OF DAVID. GOLIATH EXPECTS YOU TO BLINDLY TRUST THEIR PROMISES AND ASSURANCES. BUT TRUST IS EARNED, NOT GIVEN. WHEN THE OFFICIAL RECORD IS ALREADY FILLED WITH INCONSISTENCIES, OMISSIONS AND MISLEADING STATEMENTS. YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT AND EVERY DUTY TO SCRUTINIZE THEIR CREDIBILITY. I URGE YOU TO CAREFULLY EXAMINE THE REAL RELIABILITY OF THEIR EVIDENCE, THEIR PAST ACTIONS, AND THE HISTORY OF INDIFFERENCE TO OUR COMMUNITY IN THEIR INACTIONS. THERE'S AN IMPORTANT TENET THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN HERE.

CREDIBILITY MATTERS IN NEW YORK STATE, AFTER CLOSING ARGUMENTS, JUDGES DELIVER SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS TO JURORS IN BOTH CRIMINAL AND CIVIL PROCEEDINGS. JURORS ARE INSTRUCTED THAT IF THEY BELIEVE A WITNESS IS LYING IN ANY WAY, THE JURY IS ENTIRELY FREE TO DISREGARD EVERYTHING ELSE. THE WITNESS HAS SAID. IF THEY BELIEVE ANY PART OF THEIR TESTIMONY IS FALSE, NO MATTER HOW SMALL, THEY ARE FREE TO REJECT THEIR ENTIRE STORY AND TREAT ALL THEIR STATEMENTS AS FALSE. KEEP THAT LEGAL PRINCIPLE IN MIND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS VOTE. NOW THE APPLICANTS ARE GOING TO GET THE LAST WORD, THEY'RE CLOSING ARGUMENTS. THEY'RE COMING. THEY'RE GOING TO DAZZLE YOU WITH TECHNICAL PHRASES, CLAIMING THE EMPIRICAL DATA SHOWS THIS OR THAT. EMPIRICAL. I THINK YOU USED IT FOUR TIMES ALREADY. UH, THAT IS NOTHING BUT THEIR OWN SELF-SERVING OBSERVATIONS AND MEASUREMENTS. DON'T BE MISLED. TECHNICAL TERMINOLOGY DOES NOT MAKE IT RELIABLE. WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT IS ACCURATELY MEASURED, HOW IT WAS MEASURED WHEN IT WAS MEASURED, WHAT ASSUMPTIONS WERE MADE, WHAT INFORMATION WAS OMITTED, AND WHETHER THE CONCLUSIONS ARE SUPPORTED BY THE COMPLETE RECORD OR JUST SELF-SERVING. THE MULTIPLE GAPS IN THEIR EMPIRICAL DATA HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE RAISED SERIOUS CONCERNS. WE'VE IDENTIFIED INACCURACIES AND DISCREPANCIES IN THEIR APPLICATION. WE HAVE CHALLENGED REPRESENTATIONS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE MISLEADING. WE HAVE POINTED TO INCOMPLETE AND SELECTIVELY PRESENTED INFORMATION, AND WE HAVE ASKED YOU TO LOOK BEYOND ISOLATED MAPS AND CONSIDER THE FULL PICTURE. THE REAL IMPACT.

THAT IS WHAT THIS DECISION IS ABOUT, NOT WHO HAS THE MOST RESOURCES, NOT WHO CAN USE THE MOST TECHNICAL LANGUAGE, NOT WHO GETS THE LAST WORD. IT SHOULD BE ABOUT WHETHER THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO YOU IS COMPLETE, ACCURATE AND SUFFICIENT TO JUSTIFY THIS PROJECT AND WHETHER THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ASKED TO BEAR THE CONSEQUENCES. SO I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE RECORD AND CONSIDER THEIR PAST ACTIONS. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, CONSIDER THEIR PAST INACTIONS.

CONSIDER THE IMPACT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND WHEN THERE ARE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, OMISSIONS, OR CONTRADICTIONS, DO NOT IGNORE THEM. BUT ASK YOURSELF ARE THEY CREDIBLE OR ARE THEY MISLEADING? CONSIDER THE LACK OF CREDIBILITY. PLEASE KEEP THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN MIND WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, WHICH I IMPLORE YOU TO DENY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR LAST SPEAKER WILL BE STEVEN MUNNS.

STEVEN.. IS HE ONLINE OR IS.

HE? DID HE LEAVE? I LEFT, OKAY, NO MORE.

AND THEN, UM. UH, TERRANCE, IS THERE ANYONE. I SEE A COUPLE OF NAMES ON HERE. IS THERE ANYONE ON ON ZOOM? I'M NOT SURE IF THESE ARE THE APPLICANTS. NO, THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP.

THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THOSE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE.

SO YOU. WANT, SINCE THE TOWN ATTORNEY IS ISN'T HERE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T.

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SHE SAYS. SHE'S PLAYING TOGETHER.

NO, BUT I I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TOWN ATTORNEY AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY.

NO, SHE'S. SHE'S A DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY.

SHE'S ALSO A. LAND USE. NO, BUT I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE PROCEEDING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE SHOULD DO IT AT A TIME WHEN WE COULD ALL BE PAYING ATTENTION AND, UH.

NOT PAYING ATTENTION. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S IT'S ALL IT'S ALREADY AFTER MIDNIGHT, AND WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER HEARING WITH REGENERON. WE'RE GOING TO.

HEAR. FROM WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING. BUT YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE TILL FOUR.

WE HAVE TO GIVE IT. WE HAVE TO IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE, BECAUSE WE CAN HEAR YOUR RESPONSES, PLEASE. AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE. AND HERE'S THE TOWN ATTORNEY HERE. SO WE HAVE COVERAGE. HEARD YELLING EVERYBODY OKAY.

NO NO. NO NO. NO I JUST THINK WE SHOULD.

JUST SHE JUST HE JUST SAID THAT.

WE HAD NO TOWN ATTORNEY. AND I EXPLAINED THAT. WE ALL EXPLAINED. WE DID. USE THE RESTROOM.

I FEEL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO YOU WANT TO GET THE ADVICE OF JOE DANKO. THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. HE'S A TOWN ATTORNEY. BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.

ONE VOTE AND THERE'S THE OTHER. THREE CAN MAKE THEIR VOTE AS WELL. I.

ASK, I'LL DO WE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FROM THE APPLICANT SO YOU CAN ANSWER THE. QUESTION.

AND AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER OF OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE ON. I JUST SAW THAT FRANCIS. THEY'RE ON OUR WAY. HE'S ON, HE'S ON, BUT HE'S ON HIS WAY. SO HE'S.

HE'S FRANCIS IS ON. YEAH.

YEAH. SO YOU HAVE THE FULL BOARD.

SO HE'S HERE. SO WE HAVE ALL OF US.

UH. YOU MAY WANT TO MUTE.

FRANCIS. THANK YOU SIR. AND. YEAH.

OKAY. SORRY, SIR. I'M GOING TO BE LET ME BE QUICK BECAUSE THE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, WHETHER IT BE TRAFFIC, STORMWATER, ETC., WERE ASKED OF YOUR EXPERTS, ASKED OF OUR EXPERTS AND THEN ANSWERED, I'D DEFER TO YOU TO SPEAK WITH YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT ABOUT ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, SPEAK WITH WITH THEIR ENGINEER ABOUT ALL OF THE ENGINEERING. WE KEEP ON. I'M SORT OF A BROKEN RECORD, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS IF THESE QUESTIONS WEREN'T PRESENT AT ALL ALL ALONG THE WAY. IT'S NOT AS IF YOUR BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD AND EVERYBODY ELSE ASKED IT, AND THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED IT BEFORE. IT'S ASKED AND ANSWERED IN THE RECORD. I DON'T NEED TO TO SUMMARIZE IT, THE ONLY THE ONLY POINT I WOULD RESPOND TO IS, UM, EUGENE'S COMMENT ABOUT A, UM, A STREAM THIS 1990. THERE'S 19981 PAGER. UH, THEY DID ASK US TO LOOK INTO THAT. I THINK SHE SAID THAT WE DIDN'T LOOK INTO THAT. WE DIDN'T ANSWER THAT. THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. I HAVE THE EMAILS HERE. I'M GOING TO PUT THIS IN THE RECORD SO THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE ANSWERED THAT THAT QUESTION.

IS ARE YOU GOING TO SHARE A SUMMARY OF THAT FOR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE LISTENING? THANKS. OKAY.

UM. THEY'RE THEIR ATTORNEYS. AND THEIR ATTORNEY REACHED OUT TO ME THE DAY AFTER THE THE, UH, WORK SESSION TO SAY, UH, WE THINK THERE'S A THERE'S A STREAM IN THE PROPERTY, AND THEY GAVE US A, UM, A HALF OF A SURVEY THAT WAS UNDATED. THERE WAS NO STAMP ON IT. WE ASKED FOR THE FULL SURVEY. IT'S A SURVEY OF THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY, NOT OUR PROPERTY, BUT I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO THE UGS FROM 1970 THAT SHOWS A STREAM, A BROOK. SORRY, I SAY STREAM BROOK. UM, WE ASKED LANGAN TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT LOOK AT THAT AREA. THAT AREA HAS BEEN FILLED. THERE'S A DRIVEWAY AND THERE'S LAWN AREA.

THERE'S NO OPEN BROOK ANYMORE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVER BEEN A BROOK ON THE KNOWLES PROPERTY. HOWEVER, TO THE EXTENT THERE IS, IT'S NOT ABOVE ABOVE GROUND. AND AS WE SAID IN THIS EMAIL, ULTIMATELY, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S ANY RAIN WATER THAT'S BEING DISCHARGED, THERE'S NO STORMWATER BEING DISCHARGED IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW. IT'S IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NOT A PIPE OR A OR A POND OR ANYTHING THAT'S COLLECTING WATER AND SHOOTING IT INTO THAT PIPE, INTO THAT BROOK AREA. TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS ANY STORMWATER THAT'S LANDING THERE. AGAIN, WE ARE REDUCING THE WATERSHED IN THIS AREA BY TWO ACRES. AND SO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WOULD BE GOING TO WHEREVER THIS ALLEGED BROOK WAS, IS GOING TO BE REDUCED. UM, SO IT HAS BEEN LOOKED INTO, IT HAS BEEN ANSWERED. YOU HAVE THAT, YOU HAVE THE RESPONSES IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT. WE DO DO THINK THAT THE, THE ISSUE ON THE TABLE IS THE SECRE PROCESS, NOT THAT NOT THE SUBSTANCE, BUT THE ACTUAL PROCEDURE WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO RESOLVE TONIGHT. MAY I JUST ASK A QUESTION? UM, SMALL QUESTION, SMALL BORE. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS REFERENCE TO NURSING HOME AND CONCERN ABOUT GREATER TRAFFIC. AND I BELIEVE YOU ARE THERE ARE 20 OF YOUR UNITS ARE SKILLED NURSING UNITS. AND IN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, ARE YOU ADDING TO

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UH, HE'S SAYING SORRY, HE'S CORRECT THAT THAT'S, UH, STASH OR. OKAY. YES. SO IN TERMS OF ANY INCREASE, WHETHER IT'S AMBULANCE OR THERE WILL BE NONE. NO. SO OKAY. SO WE CANNOT ASSUME THAT THERE WILL BE NO INCREASE OR DECREASE BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SKILLED NURSING BEDS, BUT ALSO I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE EMERGENCY CALLS ANYWHERE. RIGHT.

SO RIGHT. BUT I MEAN IN, TURN THERE'LL BE NO I, I'M SORRY, I AM TIRED TOO. UM, THERE'LL BE NO INCREASE. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. IN THE NURSING.

BUT THE NURSING BEDS. OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GENERATED, THAT DOES REMAIN TO BE SEEN, OF COURSE.

BUT SO BASED UPON STUDIES. RIGHT? RIGHT. EXACTLY. YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TAKE A LOOK AT IT. BUT REMEMBER, LET ME JUST LET ME THE STANDARD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IS IT SIGNIFICANT CAN BE QUANTIFIED AS SIGNIFICANT, WHICH I THINK IS IS SOMETHING TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT IS THAT THE ADDITION OF 71 IL UNITS, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OR AN INCREASE THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BE QUANTIFIED AS SIGNIFICANT FROM A SECRET PERSPECTIVE SUCH THAT IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, UM, THAT I THINK HAS BEEN VETTED, UH, AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOUR BOARD HAS FOUND AS A LEAD AGENCY ON SEVERAL OTHER SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES IN THE AREA, WHICH INCLUDE IL UNITS AND NHL AND MCU, WHICH THIS DOESN'T.

BUT BUT, YOU KNOW. I MEAN, I MY MOTHER LIVED IN A A SENIOR LIVING ON A MAIN ROAD ON SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, WHICH WAS NOT FAR FROM WHERE I LIVE. AND I TRAVELED IT NIGHTLY AND DAILY, ACTUALLY. SO I DID YOU KNOW, I DID OBSERVE. I DID MY OWN LITTLE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT I, I, I GUESS THAT IS HAS BEEN A CONCERN IN OTHER HEARINGS THAT I'VE BEEN TO IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. AND UM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT WAS NOT A TREMENDOUS UH, YEAH. IT'S NOT. AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE JUST SAYING, OH, IT'S JUST THE THE ATTORNEY SAYING THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROVEN. IT'S PROVEN THAT THIS TYPE OF USE IS NOT A BIG TRAFFIC A GENERATOR YOU LOOK AT. LOOK AT ALL OF YOUR TRAFFIC STUDIES, NOT JUST OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT TRAFFIC STUDIES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND FRANKLY, THROUGHOUT WESTCHESTER COUNTY WITH RESPECT TO THESE TYPES OF USES. IT JUST DOESN'T GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. THE 20 OR SO PEOPLE THAT YOU SAW COME HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW HOW THEY GOT HERE, BUT THEY GOT HERE BY RIGHT, BECAUSE THE NOLES USES BUSES TO TAKE THEIR TAKE THEIR TRIPS AND DELIVER THEIR RESIDENTS TO VARIOUS PLACES AROUND THE TOWN. THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW THAT WHY THERE ISN'T MUCH SINGLE CAR.

TRAFFIC. SIMILAR TO THIS. SO I THINK THE TRAFFIC DATA WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO THE USE AND THE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF USE. UM, NOT ONLY FROM YOUR TRAFFIC EXPERT, POTENTIALLY FROM JOHN KENNEY AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH. AND ASK JOHN. THAT'S YOUR EXPERT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION I EXPLORE IN YOUR POINT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE BIFURCATION OF I JUST WANTED TO BE I JUST WANTED CLARITY ON THAT. IT'S LIKE AND AGAIN, LOOKING TO HELP WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO FOR BOTH SIDES. CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME CAN YOU GIVE MORE EXPLANATION? WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BIFURCATION OF EVENTS. THE ZONING BOARD CAN'T ACT UNLESS WE, UH, REZONE THE PROPERTY. THERE'S NO OPPOSITION. THE BOARD IS 100% SUPPORTIVE OF REZONING THE PROPERTY. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN AS A SEPARATE APPLICATION. WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO DO BETHEL KNOLLS OR NOT. OKAY.

SO THAT COULD BE HANDLED AS A SEPARATE APPLICATION. THERE'S AN APPEAL BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS THAT IS SITTING THERE REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT OUR, OUR, OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT MADE ERRONEOUS ZONING DECISIONS UPON. WE ARE BASING OUR DECISION. IT MAY BE THAT THE ZONING BOARD SAYS, YES, THEY DO NEED MORE VARIANCES OR SIGNIFICANT VARIANCES, OR THEY CAN'T EVEN BE THERE AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE 4000 FOOT SETBACK. ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED, BUT THEY HAVE DETERMINED AT THEIR LAST MEETING THEY CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS WE ACTUALLY REZONE THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE MAKING AN INTERPRETATION ON A HYPOTHETICAL. WE CAN RESOLVE THAT HYPOTHETICAL BY CLOSING

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YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND. UH, THE RESEARCH AND.

YES, EXACTLY. RIGHT. WELL.

AND I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THE FIRST DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY.

UM, THAT THIS IS A PATH THAT WE CAN PROCEED.

IT IS IT IS ONE ROUTE. YES. OKAY.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT UP. AND I THINK THAT, UH, RATHER THAN, UH, FOLLOW YOUR ADVICE, AT THE MINIMUM, WE COULD HOLD IT OFF TILL, LIKE, TUESDAY. HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. THERE'S NO SPECIAL UNTIL BEFORE WE REZONE. WE COULD ADJOURN THE. YOU KNOW, WE WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THE HEARING RIGHT NOW. WE COULD WE COULD, UH, THEN REFLECT ON IT.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN IMPORTANT DECISION THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT, POTENTIALLY IMPACT, UH, A WHOLE COMMUNITY AT AT 1215 IN THE MORNING. I THINK IT'S WORTH IT SINCE SEVEN, SINCE 730. I THINK IT'S, LIKE, RIDICULOUS. AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE OUR TOWN ATTORNEY HERE. WE DON'T HAVE OUR. TOWN CLERK. OUR ATTORNEY. WE DON'T HAVE THE WE DON'T HAVE THE TOWN ATTORNEY.

WE JUST. HAVE A TOWN.

TOWN ATTORNEY, NOT THE TOWN ATTORNEY. UH, WHEN WE MAKE A MAJOR DECISION. SHE'S FEMALE.

DOESN'T MEAN SHE'S NOT. NO. WHEN WE MAKE A MAJOR, WE HAVE.

WE. WHEN WE MAKE A. ACTUALLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE TOWN CLERK HERE, AND WE HAVE THE MAYOR. WE HAVE THE, UH, WE HAVE LO IS, UM. I FEEL THE SAME THING. WE DON'T HAVE THE TOWN CLERK.

NO, I SAID WE I SAID, I SAID, MISTER BELTRAN IS IS IS ACTING AS THE TOWN CLERK, BUT IS NOT THE TOWN CLERK. THE TOWN ATTORNEY IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THE DEPUTY TOWN.

ATTORNEY. SO, SO SO THERE IS.

NO DOWNSIDE TO THE COMMUNITY. WELL, YOU I DON'T THERE'S NO.

DOWNSIDE TO RUSHING SOMETHING IN WITHOUT LETTING US KNOW I.

DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. TRY TO CONTROL.

YOURSELF, RIGHT? NO, I'M TRYING. ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE REZONE? WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.

DO YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AS A PUD? I DON'T, I WANT TO, I WANT TO BASICALLY, I WANT TO SPEAK. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S TIME. IT'S TIME FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. RIGHT.

AND THEY'LL ONLY TAKE A FEW MINUTES, AND I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY, BUT IT'S TIME FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. CAN I TAKE A VOTE ON HAVING. YOU KNOW, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO I TELL YOU, I, I DO AGREE I DO AGREE WITH THE SUPERVISOR.

WE HAVE HAVE WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING HERE. NO DISRESPECT FOR YOU. AND THEY HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 730 AND IT IS AFTER MIDNIGHT. SO WE NEED WE WE, WE, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE RESPECTFUL TO TO OUR GUESTS. SO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT, OR CAN WE COMPLETE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS? IT'S IT'S. IF THE BOARD MEMBERS SEEK LEGAL ADVICE TO DISCUSS THEIR OPTIONS, THEN I WOULD ADVISE THAT YOU GO INTO A QUICK EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE. I THINK WE JUST I THINK WE PUT THE THE OPTIONS OUT IN PUBLIC ALREADY. RIGHT.

WE DON'T NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE COULD.

YEAH. I'M NOT SO SURE WE NEED ONE.

THAT'S. UH.

WE'RE TAKING ACTION TONIGHT. SO WHAT'S THAT? WE ASK THAT THE BOARD TAKE AN ACTION TONIGHT.

SO YOU ASK THAT WE DO NOT. TAKE AN ACTION TONIGHT.

YOU ASK THAT WE DO NOT. TAKE ACTION.

WE DO. OH, DO WE. TAKE SOME ACTION TONIGHT? SO WE GET AN ANSWER ON ON WHERE. WE ARE. BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED YOU'RE PROPOSING, PAUL, IS THAT WE HOLD EVERYTHING OVER THE ZONING BOARD CAN ACT. SO WE GO THROUGH

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I. UNBELIEVABLE LEGAL. EXPERTISE OF.

THE. FIRST DEPUTY. WE ALREADY KNOW WE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO.

SO DISRESPECTFUL. SO WHERE ARE.

WE? SO WITH EVERYBODY.

ARE WE ARE WE DONE WITH ALL. SO JUST LET'S BE CLEAR. ARE WE DONE WITH ALL OF THE SPEAKERS WHO SIGNED UP TO GIVE THEIR COMMENTS TONIGHT? HAVE WE DONE THAT.

SO NO. NO.

SO DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS REGARDING THE REZONE? YES, I DO SPECIFIC COMMENTS ABOUT THE ABOUT THE REZONING AMENDMENT. OKAY. SO WE.

CAN HEAR THAT WITH WITH ALL WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WHAT WHAT THE BOARD IS SETTING UP RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE UGS IN PARTICULAR, TO CONTINUE TO JUST KEEP ON SAYING, OH, I'VE GOT SOMETHING NEW, I'VE GOT SOMETHING, SOMETHING NEW TO TO DELAY THIS ACTION.

WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD, I GUESS I CAN, WE CAN'T. BUT ALL DUE RESPECT. FRANKLY, I CAN'T HEAR, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE COULD POSSIBLY SAY. THAT WOULD BE OPPOSING THE REZONE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THAT COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING UP HERE ASKING THE BOARD TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE THAT ACTION, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT YOU WOULD THEN DECIDE. THE DIFFERENCE IS I WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REZONE.

WELL, THAT'S THAT'S ALL THERE IS RIGHT NOW. THE ONLY THING THAT'S OPEN IS, IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REZONE.

OKAY. SO WE'RE ASKING WE'RE ASKING TO MAKE THAT THAT MOTION BECAUSE I THINK I'M TRYING TO ESSENTIALLY GIVE YOU THE PROCEDURAL BASIS TO TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU SEEM TO BE DEBATING SO THAT WE CAN GET AN ANSWER TO. WELL, I MEAN, I'M I'M GOING TO TAKE THE ADVICE FROM OUR TOWN ATTORNEY. RIGHT. UM, BUT IF IF MISS G HAS INFORMATION THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH REGARDS TO THE REZONE, WE HAVE TO HEAR.

WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND ROUND. BUT BUT IT'S SOLELY ON THAT REZONE. THANK YOU.

NO NO. NO NO NO.

NO NO. COME TO COME TO THE REZONING.

THAT COME. YOU'RE NOT CLOSING SACRIFICE BECAUSE I GOT A HOLD UP ABOUT THAT. SO I JUST.

WE'RE WE'RE ALL WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU IS WHAT.

ONLY THE STUFF. ABOUT.

THE ONLY ABOUT THE OF THE CHANGING FROM THE PUBLIC TO THE TO THE ZONING. YES.

OKAY. UH, THE ZONING AMENDMENT PETITION ITSELF. WHERE IS THE CURRENT PETITION FOR PUBLIC REVIEW? IT IS BURIED DEEP WITHIN THE PLANNING BOARD MATERIALS, AND IT USES THAT OUTDATED PROJECT DESCRIPTION. THE 41,000FT, THE TWO AND A HALF STORIES OF THREE AND A HALF STORIES. UH, DON'T YOU THINK THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE IT AVAILABLE UNDER THE TOWN BOARD SECTION? IT TOOK ME AGES AND AGES TO FIND IT. SO THAT OFFICIAL LEGAL DOCUMENT FOR THE ZONING AMENDMENT DOESN'T EVEN SAY THE THE THE CORRECT PROJECT. THAT IS MY BEEF WITH THAT. I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO VIEW IT AND IT'S NOT CORRECT. AND I THINK AT SOME POINT THAT MATTERS. IF THE BOARD IS ABOUT TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ON A ZONING AMENDMENT, THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT BEING CONSIDERED WITH THE CURRENT AND ACCURATE PROJECT DESCRIPTION ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. SO THAT IS MY.

COMMENT. AND IF YOU WANT SOME COMMENTS ON SARAH, I'VE GOT A WHOLE PAGE OF THAT TOO. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S NOT. AN ISSUE FOR TONIGHT.

NOT ONLY ON ON. ON ON THESE ON. OKAY.

I ASSUME I ASSUME YOU DISAGREE. WELL, I KNOW, I NOW.

ASKING FOR A DECISION. RIGHT NOW I'M CONFUSED. YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE JUST VOTING ON THE REZONING, NOT THE PROJECT.

SO YOU DON'T NEED AN UPDATED PROJECT DESCRIPTION FOR THE REZONING. YOU I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

SO WE'RE JUST AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING THAT THE BOARD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REZONING AND TAKING ACTION BECAUSE WE WE THE APPLICANT, WHO ALSO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND ARE GOING TO KEEP ON BEING HERE, NEED DIRECTION PROCEDURALLY AS TO WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS. ARE WE GOING BACK TO THIS? ARE WE GOING TO THE ZONING BOARD FOR THIS INTERPRETATION? ARE WE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE FINISHING SECRET FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT? WE NEED WE NEED TO KNOW TONIGHT. ARE YOU DONE? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE REZONING. LEAVE THE RECORD. THE WRITTEN RECORD OPEN FOR THE REZONING OF SEVEN DAYS. OKAY. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? NO.

OKAY. NO.

I I. OKAY, SO PAUL SAID NO.

ALL RIGHT. WERE THAT SUFFICIENTLY FOR YOU? OKAY. SO NOW WHAT'S WHAT'S NEXT NOW. SO IS THAT DO WE GET TO.

ARE WE FINISHED THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WE GET TO HEAR FROM REGINA. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GOING TO.

WELL, NO, WE HAVE TO ADJOURN THE REMAINDER OF THAT FOR ALL

[04:45:02]

I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN IT TO THE WHAT DID WE DECIDE? THE DECEMBER MEETING. DECEMBER.

UH. ON THE NOT ON THE REZONE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE, UH, GIVE THE ZONING BOARD A CHANCE TO ACT.

THE ZONING BOARD MEETS, UH. I THINK NOVEMBER.

19TH, MAYBE. UNFORTUNATELY, AT THE LAST ZONING BOARD MEETING, THEY HELD THE THE INTERPRETATION OVER UNTIL NOVEMBER. OTHERWISE WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT ON IN TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS. UNLESS YOU HAVE A WAY AROUND THAT.

YEAH. THE THE WAY AROUND THAT IS LETTING LETTING THE ZONING BOARD KNOW THAT YOU'VE TAKEN ACTION BEFORE NOVEMBER. RIGHT.

IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE SAYING WE WON'T MAKE A RULING ON THE INTERPRETATION UNTIL YOU HAVE REZONED THE SITE AND THE SITE IS REZONED, SAY, OCTOBER, THEN WE COULD GET ON THE EITHER THE OCTOBER AGENDA. AND I DON'T. THINK YOU'RE READY ON IT'S JUST, YOUR HONOR. THEY'RE.

SAYING THEY'RE JUST. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE ON ALREADY AND THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW THE THE CASE NUMBER SHOULD HAVE PUT THEM PRETTY HIGH UP ON THE LIST TO BE HEARD AT THE MEETING. UH.

ZONING BOARD MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE LAST MEETING TO ADJOURN TO THE NOVEMBER 19TH MEETING.

RIGHT. AND AND SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE VOTE AT THE AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS IN OCTOBER.

RIGHT. UM, AND THEN THAT'LL ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY THE ZONING BOARD WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE JUST GOT THIS. YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE THAT SEEMS SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE ADJOURN IT TO THE DECEMBER MEETING. BECAUSE THAT'LL GIVE A CHANCE. BECAUSE WE I THINK WE MEET AFTER THE ZONING BOARD MEETS IN DECEMBER. AND JUST IN CASE IT GETS HELD OVER.. WELL, SO, UH, BUT IF YOU ADJOURN IT TO THE DECEMBER MEETING, THEN YOU CAN'T VOTE IN OCTOBER. DON'T YOU WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE OCTOBER.

NO VOTING IN OCTOBER ON THE REZONE, RIGHT.

YES. THIS BOARD. YEAH.

TOWN BOARD THAT I GOT. YES. AND WHETHER.

THEY. WILL WE WILL VOTE AT OUR OCTOBER MEETING. RIGHT. WHICH THEN MAKES IT RIPE FOR THE ZONING BOARD, WHICH MEETS THE VERY NEXT DAY. BUT THEY CAN'T HEAR IT THE NEXT DAY BECAUSE THEY, AT THEIR LAST MEETING, SAID THAT THEY WERE HOLDING IT OVER TO THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

IT WAS RENO, RIGHT? IT WOULD REQUIRE RENO, WHICH WE MAY BE ABLE TO TO GET THEM TO DO. UM, AND SO.

I'M NOT I UNDERSTAND IT'S LIKE 500 HOMES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THEY TO DO.

WELL, BUT NO, NO, I, I DON'T I DON'T. WELL I'M NOT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF IT. WELL THAT'S NOT, NOT WE DIDN'T APPEAL. BUT THE, UM, ALL I'M SAYING IS JUST ADJOURN THIS TO OCTOBER. ON THAT OCTOBER DATE, YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. WITH RESPECT TO WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING TO BE LEFT OPEN. BUT DON'T IF YOU IF YOU JUST PUSH IT OVER UNTIL DECEMBER, WE WON'T HAVE A CHANCE IF WE CAN GET BACK TO IN NOVEMBER TO GET BACK TO YOU. SO WE'RE.

JUST SAYING JEAN WAS SPECIFYING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE REZONING PIECE OF IT, BUT THE NEXT PART WOULD BE SPEAKING. SO YOU SAID ADJOURNING. SO SO THE ZONING BOARD IS NOT GOING TO SEE THIS UNTIL NOVEMBER. RIGHT. AND ASSUMING AND OF COURSE, THERE'S THANKSGIVING IN THERE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING UP. I THINK PROBABLY THEIR DATE.

WHAT IS THEIR DATE? 19TH OF 19.

YEAH. MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO THE 2ND NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE. YOU CAN CAN YOU TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? PERHAPS IT WOULD THEN MAKE SENSE TO DO THE 2ND NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF AT LEAST THE APPEAL BEING HEARD. ONE MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

AND IF WE HAVE TO THEN ADJOURN IT, WE COULD ADJOURN IT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, THAT THAT'S FINE WITH US.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT'S THE 2ND NOVEMBER MEETING? I DON'T THINK YOU'VE DECIDED YET.

THE TOWN. BOARD.

OH, IT'S AN ANOMALY. NO, WE.

DID IT. YOU DID.

OKAY ON MONDAY. OKAY, GREAT.

NO, WE DECIDED THE NOVEMBER MEETINGS. THE 2ND NOVEMBER MEETINGS. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE DECEMBER MEETINGS.

YEAH. SO THE NOVEMBER 20TH.

3RD NOVEMBER. YEAH, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOVEMBER.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE TOWN BOARD. NOVEMBER 23RD.

NOVEMBER 23RD. OR WHATEVER. THE SECOND MEETING IS JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. I DO NOT THINK IT WILL BE THAT DAY BECAUSE THE NEXT DAY IS THANKSGIVING.

NO MONEY. SO GENERALLY MONDAY. YEAH.

GENERALLY MONDAY. MONDAY THE 23RD.

IT'S KIND OF MESSY TO BE ON A TRANSCRIPT.

[04:50:01]

RIGHT. DECISION. YEAH. OKAY OKAY OKAY.

OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE KNOW WE NEED A MOTION.

ON A MOTION FOR THE SECOND PIECE.

I MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION TO FOR WHATEVER.

SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THE MOTION BE FOR TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SITE PLAN AND THE SPECIAL PERMIT TO NOVEMBER 23RD. THAT'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OH, HE CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION, SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

OH, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT, WELL, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

REPEAT WHAT. WE JUST SECONDED GARRETT'S MOTION. I'M SORRY.

HE'S NOT. A MEMBER. IT'S GETTING LATE, SO WE GOTTA. WE GOTTA STAY ON THIS ONE TASK.

SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. THAT CHARACTER SAID. OKAY.

ADJOURNING THE THE SPECIAL PERMIT AND THE, UH, SITE PLAN, UH, FOR. NOVEMBER 27TH, NOVEMBER 22ND.

3RD NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER.

NOVEMBER 23RD. SECOND. YOU WELL IN FAVOR? AH, OKAY.

OKAY. NEXT. UH, SO DO WE FINISH? SO WE WE'LL START WITH. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLARIFICATION.

SO WE'RE ALL SET WITH, YOU KNOW. OKAY. REGENERON.

OKAY. IF WE. WAS SO WORRIED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE YOUR BABY. I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT MIKE TO SAY, MIKE, YOU'RE READY BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD YOUR TRAINING. SO WE WERE PREPARED.

OH, 35 WEEKS. SO. OH.

OH. I WENT HOME TO BOIL WATER.

WELL, NOT TOO FAR. ALL THE BEST. THANK YOUUCH. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT. YES. YOU HAD A QUESTION.

IS THERE ATTORNEY ALLOWED TO SPEAK WHENEVER.

THE ATTORNEY, OUR ATTORNEY? NO.

HE'S THE APPLICANT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALLOTTED FIVE MINUTES. YOU JUST GET ALL THE TIME.

THAT'S HIS JOB. HE HE'S THE APPLICANT. YEAH, WELL, IF YOU WANT ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION OR TO OUR QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT.

SO AND WE'RE HAPPY TO RECEIVE COMMENTS IN WRITING THAT WE CAN ALSO FORWARD TO THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY TO RESPOND. IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. YEP.

ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER THING THAT.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON, RIGHT.

YEAH. LET ME JUST. PLEASE THAT.

I'M I'M SORRY, MA'AM, BUT WE CERTAINLY NEED TO MOVE ON. IF YOU COULD SUBMIT ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IN WRITING, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THEM AND MOVE THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON.

GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU.. ALL RIGHT. I HOPE, REGINA.

THERE'S SOMETHING UNDER THE CHAIR.

CONSIDER MOVING TO MOUNT PLEASANT NEXT TO THE SAME.

OKAY, GARY, YOU. ALL SAY.

BEFORE YOU DO THAT ON THE PREVIOUS HEARING, I JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I WAS LISTENING TO THE MEETING, EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T PHYSICALLY IN THE ROOM ON ZOOM. SO THAT ACTUALLY, INITIALLY ON THE WEBSITE. AND THEN I SWITCHED OVER TO ZOOM. SO I DID HEAR THAT EVERYBODY'S TESTIMONY AND, UH, WAS PREPARED TO VOTE. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. NEXT, THE

[ To consider an amended site plan application of Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (“Regeneron”) for property located at 555 Saw Mill River Road (P.O. Tarrytown) [TB 26-03]]

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

GOOD EVENING. SUPERVISOR FEINER. MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, GARY DUQUESNE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATED TO A SITE PLAN APPLICATION OF REGENERON, THE SITE OWNER, FOR A SITE PLAN AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FOR A PROJECT CONSISTING OF AN APPROXIMATELY 37,500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING KNOWN AS THE LOGISTICS BUILDING AND 120 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, WHERE 118 OF A TOTAL OF 238 PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED TO BE TEMPORARY. THE PROJECT WILL ALSO REQUIRE A WETLAND, WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. A FILL PERMIT FROM THE BUREAU ENGINEERING IS ALSO REQUIRED FOR THE PROPOSED IMPORTATION OF APPROXIMATELY 4700YD OF FILL. SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 13.9 ACRES AND IS LOCATED IN THE PED. PLANNED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT PARCEL ID 7.7162.2. THE CURRENT PROJECT IS A SCALED DOWN VERSION OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, BUT NOT BUILT ALTERNATE LOGISTICS BUILDING, WHICH WAS THE SUBJECT OF A COMPREHENSIVE SEEKER PROCESS AND APPROVAL BY THE TOWN BOARD IN 2024, WITH THE SCALED DOWN VERSION THAT IS NOW BEFORE THE VARIOUS BOARDS OF THE TOWN. THE APPLICANT RETAINED THE COMPREHENSIVE LANDSCAPING, TRANSPORTATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATIONS AND IF ANYTHING, ENHANCE THEM AS PART OF THE CURRENT PROCESS AND REVIEW WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND TOWN BOARD, THE APPLICANT APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AS PART OF A SITE PLAN REFERRAL, WHICH INCLUDED WORK SESSION ON JUNE 17TH, AUGUST 5TH AND SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2026, WHERE THE APPLICATION WAS THE SUBJECT OF A PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION. THE PLANNING BOARD FOUND THAT THE SITE PLAN SATISFIED THE APPLICABLE SITE PLAN STANDARDS SET FORTH IN 28554 SECTIONS EIGHT THROUGH K, AS PART OF ITS RECOMMENDATION,

[04:55:01]

ANYBODY YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK? LET THEM MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

FIRST YOU HAVE TO MAKE. THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, ANDY KLEIN, ASSOCIATE AT BELL, O'DONNELL AND WEINGARTEN, WISE AND WHITAKER HERE TONIGHT WITH STEVE SPINA FROM JMC AND KIM MARTIN FROM REGENERON. I KNOW IT'S LATE, SO I'M JUST GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO STEVE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY. HELLO. STEVE SPINA FROM JMC.

WE'RE THE SITE ENGINEER. UH, GARY GAVE A SUMMARY OF THIS SLIDE BASICALLY WHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO ADDRESS ALL THE PLANNING BOARD COMMENTS. UH, WE WE HAVE A COMPARISON OF THE 2024 AND 2026 SITE PLANS. UH, ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF REDUCTIONS, REDUCING IMPERVIOUS AREA, REDUCING EARTHWORK, REDUCING DISTURBANCE, REDUCING TREE REMOVAL. SO OVERALL, UH, LESS OBTRUSIVE PLAN. THERE'S EXISTING PARKING LOTS THAT ARE THERE. NOW WE'RE JUST BUILDING A BUILDING AND PARKING ON TOP OF PARKING. UM, SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SUMMARY. UM, THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS SOME CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE AS WE WORK THROUGH.

I'M SORRY, WHEN YOU SAY THIS, COULD YOU AT LEAST READ THE TITLE OF SOMETHING SO THAT SOMEBODY'S.

SORRY. THIS THIS PLAN.

HERE, WHEN PEOPLE READ THE TRANSCRIPT, THEY SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO REFRESH. SORRY. THIS, UH, PROPOSED SITE PLAN HERE ON THIS SLIDE, UH, IS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD. UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE DRIVEWAY ROUTE ON THE NORTH END HERE. UH, BASED ON COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE TOWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ALSO, THIS YELLOW AREA DOWN HERE IS A PARKING AREA THAT EXISTS TODAY.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP IT FOREVER. UH, WE'RE NOW ONLY PROPOSING TO KEEP IT TO THE END OF THE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS BECAUSE IT IS USED BY CONTRACTORS FOR PARKING. SO I'LL JUST SHOW YOU, UM, THE REVISED PLAN. SO SUBTLE CHANGE.

BUT THIS DRIVEWAY IS NOW A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED. UH, PULLED AWAY FROM THE WETLAND BUFFER AS REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. UM, ANGLES WERE STRAIGHTENED OUT A BIT. UH, THIS WAS ALL, UM, UH, ACCEPTABLE TO THE TOWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THIS YELLOW AREA DOWN HERE IS NOW, LIKE I SAID, PROPOSED JUST UNTIL THE END OF THE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENTS. UH, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO KEEP IT FOREVER ANYMORE. THIS JUST SHOWS THE, UH, THE RED LINE IS THE ALIGNMENT OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S BEEN CHANGED ON THIS, UH, ON THIS DRAWING HERE. AND, UH, THE OTHER RED, UH, BOX IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER JUST HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE INSTALLED, UH, OR PROPOSING TO INSTALL A SECURITY, UH, LIFT GATES SO THAT, UH, VEHICLES COULDN'T JUST ENTER INTO THE SITE HERE AND CUT THROUGH. UH, THEY HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LICENSE PLATE THAT'S REGISTERED WITH THE CAMERA THAT WOULD OPEN THE GATES FOR THEM, OR A BADGE OR A CARD READER. SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY TO TO SAFEGUARD FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REGENERON EMPLOYEES ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO BE ABLE TO CUT THROUGH THE SITE AND UTILIZE THAT DRIVEWAY. THIS JUST SHOWS A NICE PHOTO OF THAT ROUTE SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S CURRENTLY. THERE IS A LARGE PARKING LOT, UH, WITH MASSIVE RETAINING WALLS THAT WORK. THEY WORK WELL. THERE'S CARS THAT PARK THERE CURRENTLY UTILIZED FOR CONTRACTOR PARKING. THE UPPER PORTION OF THAT LOT WOULD BE REMOVED AND IT WOULD JUST BE A DRIVEWAY. BUT WE'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP THE THE PARKING CLOSEST ON THE SCREEN THERE. THOSE TWO ROWS OF PARKING. IT'S ABOUT 40 PARKING SPACES. WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT, UH, PERMANENTLY DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING CAMPUS AND BUILDINGS. AND WE'VE PROPOSED TO MAKE SOME LANDSCAPING CHANGES AS REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. SOME MORE SCREENING ALONG THE FRONTAGE. UM, SO THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS THOSE CHANGES THAT WERE ADDED. SO MORE SHRUBS AND, UH, AND TREES ALONG THE FRONTAGE THERE. UH, AND, AND A WALKING TRAIL TO CONNECT PEDESTRIANS FROM THE BUILDING DOWN TO THE REMAINDER OF THE CAMPUS. THERE IS A SIDEWALK THERE. NOW, WE ARE ORIGINALLY PROPOSING THAT THEY WOULD JUST, UH, HAVE TO WALK THIS STREET, THIS SHORT STRETCH HERE ALONG THE ROADWAY. UH, NOW WE HAVE A CROSSWALK TO A MULCH TRAIL, UH,

[05:00:01]

I HAVE A QUESTION. AREN'T YOU GLAD THAT BETHEL KNOLLS, ARE YOU GOING TO THANK THEM FOR GOING ON SO LONG? WHERE IS EVERYBODY? EVERYBODY LEFT.

WELL, NO, WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE. AND THE GROUP HOME.

I'M SORRY. IT WAS A LONG NIGHT. YES, I GUESS THAT HELPS, BUT, YEAH. WOULD BE NICE TO JUST GET IT..

IT'S NOT. YEAH. WE STILL HAVE. WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER. WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE MINUTES.

TO DO. SO YEAH I COMMEND THE BOARD FOR THEIR PATIENCE OVERALL. ANYBODY ANYBODY WANT.

TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE ANYBODY ON IT. AND I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE YOU GET YOU GET TO GET SHOUT OUT BECAUSE YOU STAY SO LONG SO.

WELL THERE ARE TWO. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, DYLAN.

YEAH. WELL, LOOK, IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK. COME ON, COME ON. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU.

NEED TO SAY, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, ADD ANY COMMENT, OKAY? OKAY. SO LET'S, UH, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I OH. THANK YOU.

IT. DIDN'T FOR SEVEN DAYS.

WE DIDN'T SAY TWO DAYS. WE GOT IT..

WE LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.

OKAY, OKAY. THAT WASN'T VOTED ON. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT. THE REST DO IT AGAIN. LET'S DO IT AGAIN. I MOVE THAT. WE I KNOW I SEE IT, OKAY. WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT CLEAN.

I MOVED OUT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CLOSE THE HAIR. NOT TONIGHT..

OR I'M THIS MORNING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY, I KNOW WHAT WE VOTED ON. WHAT DID WE DO? WE JUST DID IT. THE WHOLE OF THE.

RIGHT WAY. LEAVE A RECORD.

OPEN. OKAY. NEXT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE? YOU'RE DONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU.

GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN. SORRY FOR A LONG EVENING, BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT.

[ TB 1 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2026 through December 31, 2026 with the Village of Ardsley for fire protection services to the Chauncey fire protection district, at a cost not to exceed $12,294 ]

[ TB 2 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2026 through December 31, 2026 with the Village of Ardsley for fire protection services to the South Ardsley fire protection district, at a cost not to exceed $392,866]

[ TB 3 - 09/23/2026 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh authorizing the continued retention of Cozen O'Connor for the review and evaluation of a petition filed for the purpose of village incorporation for an additional $100,000, $600,000 in total]

ALL IN FAVOR? I TV THREE RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED DETENTION OF COLSON O'CONNOR FOR THE REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF PETITION FILED FOR THE PURPOSE OF VILLAGE INCORPORATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL 100,000 600,000 IN TOTAL. I'D

[ CL 1 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing permission to close Kempster Road between Cotswold Way and Hadden Road, Sunday, October 4, 2026, from 2:00 PM to 5:00 PM, for the Cotswold Associations to hold its annual neighborhood block party]

[ CL 2 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing permission to close Salem Road between Normandy Road and Mayfair Way, on Saturday, September 26, 2026 (Rain Date: Sunday, September 27, 2026), from 12:00 PM to 7:00 PM, for the Mayfair-Knollwood Civic Association to hold their annual block party]

[ CL 3 - 09/23/2026 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, October 14, 2026. at 7:00 PM, to consider a Local Law creating Chapter 385 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled "Official Town Seal"]

[ CL 4 - 09/23/2026 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, October 14, 2026, at 7:00 PM, to consider a one-year agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Tarrytown for Fire Protection Services to Unincorporated Greenburgh residents of the Glenville Fire Protection District for the years 2024 and 2025, respectively]

RESPECTFULLY, I'D LIKE TO MOVE. THAT SECOND.

IN FAVOR. HI.

UM, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF 24 DE ONE UH, 20

[ CD 1 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the purchase of 24 trees for planting in the vicinity of the Taxter Road right-of-way, supporting prior flood mitigation work performed by the Town of Greenburgh, in connection with the New York Power Authority’s Tree Power Program at a cost not to exceed $2,419]

SECOND, AS AMENDED, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS AMENDED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND AN THAT'LL BE. FIXED. ALL IN FAVOR? I. MUST SAY. EXCUSE ME.

YEAH, I'M. I'M ABSTAINING DUE TO NEW YORK.

I'M ACCUSING. I'M SORRY. DUE TO WHAT? THE CONNECTION THE NEW YORK POWER AUTHORITY. AND I AMEND. AND BEFORE FRANCIS

[05:05:01]

YES. SO YOU'RE.

IN FAVOR? I I I I MAY WELL.

I. KNOW I'M SORRY. I BELIEVE.

UH. SEE ONE RESOLUTION.

OR TWO OVER. 62 IS HELD.

OVER CD THREE WAS HELD OVER. IN.

SEE NO. AS AMENDED AS AMENDED.

OKAY. UH, RESOLUTION. WELL, THE CD TWO.

CD. 3233, THREE. OH, YES.

[ CD 3 - 09/23/2026 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh approving the installation of a ground-mounted commemorative banner by resident Peter Blier for a 4-week period beginning October 14, 2026, honoring the 250th anniversary of the Continental Army's march in the vicinity of Old Army Road and Ardsley Road which took place on October 21st to 26th, 1776]

WELL IN FAVOR.. AYE.

RESOLUTION WENT THROUGH. FOUR. OVER. YES.

[ CR 1 – 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2026 budget amendments to reclassify funds to cover the cost of a DOT certified school bus for the Town of Greenburgh use at the Department of Community Resources]

[ CO 1 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2026 budget transfers]

[ CO 2 - 09/23/2026 Resolution approving a budget amendment to the Town Outside Village Fund for the accepted grant of $2,800 from Arts Westchester via Greenburgh Arts & Culture for Juneteenth Celebration]

ARTS AND CULTURE FOR JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE

[ CO 3 - 09/23/2026 Resolution to approve a budget amendment increasing Program Activity Donations and increasing Summer Interns with a donation of $5,000 from Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors]

[ CO 4 - 09/23/2026 Order Calling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, October 14, 2025 at 7:00 PM, in the Matter of the Increase and Improvement of the Facilities of the Consolidated Sewer District in the Town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York at an Estimated Maximum Cost of $13,100,000 (original $6,500,000 plus increase of $6,600,000)]

[ PR 1 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town of Greenburgh Department of Parks and Recreation to go out to bid for paper goods, athletic supplies, t-shirts, landscape supplies, grounds maintenance supplies, turf & landscape equipment, pool supplies, professional tree services, turf fertilization, arts & crafts supplies, prepared meals for the Greenburgh Nutrition Program, and bus transportation services]

[ PO 1 - 09/23/2026 Resolution adopting the recommendations of the Greenburgh Police Department to accept a Police Traffic Services Grant through New York State Governor’s Traffic Safety Committee]

[ PO 2 - 09/23/2026 Resolution adopting the recommendations of the Greenburgh Police Department to add a stop restriction on Bradley Avenue at the intersection of Park Avenue West, amending chapter 460 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh]

[ PO 3 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to extend the terms of the current contract for Geographic Information System (GIS) Data Professional Services related to Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) and Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) mapping systems at no additional cost to the Town]

[ PO 4 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into an Agreement with Police Records and Information Management Group to supply software to the police department for records request management]

[ PO 5 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor on behalf of the police department to grant permission to allow access and use of software agreement and system with the Dobbs Ferry Police Department and CentralSquare Technologies]

[ PO 6 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor on behalf of the police department to grant permission to allow access and use of software agreement and system with the Irvington Police Department and CentralSquare Technologies]

[ PO 7 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor on behalf of the police department to grant permission to allow access and use of software agreement and system with the Ardsley Police Department and CentralSquare Technologies]

[ PW 1 - 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Department of Public Works to administer a backdoor (non-curbside) collection program and limited recycling pilot]

[05:10:01]

AS AMENDED. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF A RESOLUTION

[ PW 2 – 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing the Department of Public Works to issue a Request for Proposals for Comprehensive Training of Public Works employees]

[ PW 3 – 09/23/2026 Resolution authorizing execution of the attached agreement for uniform and mat servicing to Dempsy Uniform & Linen Supply. Inc. for calendar years 2027-2029]

DEMPSEY. UNIFORM AND LINEN SUPPLY FOR CALENDAR YEARS 2027 AND 2029. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. SECOND WELL IN FAVOR?

[ PW 4 - 09/23/2026 Resolution reaffirming Resolution PW-1 – 03/11/2026 adopted March 11, 2026 and the water rates established for the Greenburgh Consolidated Water District No. 1]

WAIT A MINUTE. WAS P.W. FOR HELD OVER? NO, NO. I MADE THE WRONG SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OKAY, THE OTHER TWO ITEMS ARE BEING HELD OVER. OKAY? AND I MOVE. WE ADJOURN.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THIS IS THE LONGEST MEETING SINCE, UM. RECORDING

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.