[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ]
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TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2026.
THIS IS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD CONVENING ON FRIDAY EVENING AT SIX 14.
WE ARE HERE IN A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE LOCATION, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TOWN HALL, UH, LEE JACKSON ROOM, AND I WILL NOW TAKE ATTENDANCE.
CATHERINE LELAS PRESENT THAT MAKE, WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE HAVE FRANCIS SHEEN WITH US PRESENT.
AND WE HAVE STEVE EO ON THE, UM, ON ZOOM.
UH, THE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, STEVE IS WITH AEROSMITH.
WE ARE HERE TO REVIEW, UH, RESUBMISSION FOR A HUNDRED CLEARBROOK.
UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED IN FEBRUARY ON 2 11 20 26.
THE MEETING WAS HA HELD ON TWO 18 TO REVIEW.
THE SUBMISSION WAS HELD ON 2 18 20 26, 7 DAYS LATER.
IT WAS RESUBMITTED ON 8 25 20 26 WITH A MEETING HELD ON THE 3RD OF SEPTEMBER, 9, 3 20, 26, 9 DAYS LATER.
AND NOW, UM, IT WAS SUBMITTED ON THE 22ND OF SEPTEMBER, 9 22, 20 26.
AND WE ARE MEETING TODAY ON THE 25TH OF SEPTEMBER, 9 25, 20 22, WHICH MEET IS THREE DAYS LATER.
UM, SO WE'RE TAKING WHAT THE, WHAT WAS DEEMED COMPLETE OR NOT COMPLETE LAST TIME WE REVIEWED THIS AND WHAT WAS A WAS DEEMED INCOMPLETE AND WE ASK THAT THE DATE BE CORRECTED.
UH, STEVE BRAZE AT ATTESTATION FOR THE SCOPE OF WORK, SPELLING AUGUST AND SPELL AUGUST CORRECTLY AND CORRECT THE DATE THAT SAYS HERE.
SO WE'RE DIRECTED TO A, WE ARE DIRECTED, UH, I'M SORRY, WE'RE DIRECTED TO THE, UM, EXHIBIT L IS THE DATE AND AUGUST IS SPELLED CORRECTLY.
AND THE DATE OF THE DOCUMENT TO MY EYE IS CORRECT AND HAS BEEN CORRECTED.
AND TO MY EYE, THIS IS NOW COMPLETE IS, UM, ON B WE HAD, WHO IS THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THE TECHNOLOGY, OF THE TECHNOLOGY, IS IT SINGULAR OR AT AND T? AND WE ALSO HAD CORRECT APPLICANT, IT'S NOT AEROSMITH.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO THAT, IT HAS CORRECTED THAT IT IT IS, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RMC 100 CLEARBROOK AND THE APPLICANT, UH, THE OPERATOR, OWNER OF TECHNOLOGY AND APPLICANT IS NEW SINGULAR WIRELESS.
IT SAYS AT AND T OPERATES UNDER NEW SINGULAR WIRELESS.
SO THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED.
YES, THE E NO, I'M SORRY, C UM, DID DIANE, YOU HAVE TO GO LOOK THROUGH.
YOU'VE GOT EAGLE EYES FOR THINGS LIKE THIS TO MY EYE, ALL OF THE, UM, OF THE NORTH ELMSFORD, THE NORTH HAS BEEN REMOVED, BUT I ABSOLUTELY PAPER.
D WAS COMPLETE, C WAS COMPLETE.
WE FOUND THAT F WAS NOT COMPLETE WHAT WE HAD, BUT F WAS, UM, DO NOT PROVIDE AN ALTERED AFFIDAVIT.
THE AFFIDAVIT HAS TO BE MOD HAS BEEN MODIFIED, ALTERED PROVIDE AN AFFIDAVIT THAT IS NOT, UM, AND ALTERED TO, UM, BEING THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WITH THE ACTUAL DATE OF THE AFFIDAVIT OF, SO WE WERE DIRECTED TO, WE WERE DIRECTED TO, UM, I'M SORRY, FEE.
AND AGAIN, TO MY EYE, THIS IS NOW OKAY, IT'S NOW ACCEPTABLE AND THEREFORE COMPLETE G WE SAID, UM, THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN A LATER QUESTION AND THIS QUESTION BETWEEN TWO AND THREE WEEKS, THIS NOW REFLECTS THAT IT IS THREE WEEKS.
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AND IT SAYS ALSO, UM, IT, IT DIDN'T AGREE ON THE TIME PERIOD.AND MY ONE QUESTION, UM, IT SAYS REPLACE 12 EXISTING ANTENNAS FOUR, NINE.
I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS REPLACING THE NINE WITH, BUT THE IMPRESSION I REALLY HAD, OH, THIS BILL.
BUT THAT'S THE, OKAY, THAT, THAT'S NOT PART OF OURS, BUT IT IS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
SO THE BUILDING PER ON THE BUILDING PERMIT, STEVE, THE EL, THE WORD ELMSFORD IS MISSPELLED.
UM, NOT WITH NORTH, IT'S JUST MISSING THE S SO, BUT YOU MIGHT CHOOSE TO CORRECT THAT WHEN YOU SUBMIT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW FROM THIS IS, AND IT'S NOT, SO WE ASKED THIS QUESTION LAST TIME ABOUT WHERE, ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT AND IT WAS, I ONLY NOTICED NOW THAT YOU HAVE IT IN THE BASEMENT, AND I WANNA KNOW, WE'LL SEE THIS WHEN WE GET TO SECTION S.
DO YOU HAVE A DIAGRAM OF THE EQUIPMENT ROOM BECAUSE IT COVERS ALL THINGS.
SO THIS ANSWER IS NOW COMPLETE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
THEN H WAS, WAS COMPLETE LAST TIME, AS WAS I, CERTIFICATION OF SUPPORT STRUCTURE, WHICH IS J WAS COMPLETE, NO, I'M SORRY IT WAS INCOMPLETE.
BUT, UM, IT SAID CORRECT THE ADDRESS MAKE THE DOCUMENTS CONSISTENT, A, B, C AND ALPHA, BETA GAA.
AND THAT WAS CLARIFIED AND THOSE TWO THINGS WERE CORRECTED.
SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT NOW COMPLETE.
K IS COMPLETE, WAS COMPLETE LAST TIME AND IS COMPLETE THIS TIME.
UM, L WAS COMPLETE AS WAS M AND THEN WE GET TO NEAR AND, AND WHAT WE HAD THERE IS THE CHARTS DO NOT REFLECT EXPOSURE IN FRONT OF THE ANTENNAS OR ON THE ROOF.
THEY ALSO DO NOT REFLECT EXPOSURE TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT OF THE ANTENNAS ON THE ROOF.
UM, THEREFORE THEY DO NOT REFLECT COMPLIANCE.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS PROVIDED, UM, IT IS
UM, THERE IS, I I HAVE A QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S PAGE 23 BECAUSE HERE IT SAYS THAT AT STREET LEVEL IT'S SEVEN.
BUT LET ME ASK YOU, LET'S GET TO 23 AND THEN YOU CAN TELL ME F FRANCIS.
ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, IT'S, IT'S PAGE 21.
UH, STEVE, ARE YOU THERE? YES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM, WHAT IS THE BLUE ON THERE? WHERE IS THAT? IT LOOKS TO ME TO BE ON THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE BLUE IS THE, THE, THE TOP OF THAT ELEVATOR SHAFT.
SO THAT'S SQUARE THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, THAT, THAT'S THE, UH, I I I IMAGINE ELEVATOR SHAFT WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE ON.
SO IF YOU GET NEAR THAT EDGE, THAT IS WHERE IT IS BLUE, UM, WHICH IS UH, BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 500%.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS BETWEEN, OKAY, GO ON.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS, UM, OH, EVERYTHING IN GREEN IS, UH, BETWEEN 5% AND 10 AND A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND THEN THAT WHITE SECTION IN THE MIDDLE IS ZERO TO 5%.
AND WHERE IS THIS REFLECTED ON YOUR CHARTS? THAT SHOULD BE REFLECTED ON PAGE EIGHT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
WHERE DOES IT HAVE THAT NUMBER OF OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO NO EIGHT IS ACTUALLY, UH, GROUND LEVEL FROM ZERO TO 500 FEET.
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TO HEAR.SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT REFLECTED ON THE CHARTS.
WE ONLY HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF THE ANTENNAS, UM, BEHIND THE ANTENNAS.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE POINT OF THE CHARTS TO SAY TO THE RIGHT LEFT BEHIND WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFICALLY THIS SO THAT WE CAN ALSO SAY WHERE THE, WHERE THE PROTECTIVE RAILINGS SHOULD BE AND MARKERS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ASK FOR THAT.
OKAY, SO YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A, WELL, IT, IT TO ME, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE OTHER CHARTS IF, WELL, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT PAGE, SORRY.
IN PAGE 21 SHOWS US WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE AND TO THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT OF, UH, JUST TAKE C TWO, RIGHT C TO THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT AND BEHIND OR TAKE C ONE, IT IS BLUE AND IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE CHARTS.
SO I GUESS IT, YEAH, SO THE BLUE IS, IT IS I GUESS ON THAT, UM, ON THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING WHERE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO STAND.
SO WHAT WE DETERMINED WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ANTENNAS, WHICH IS IN THE GREEN RIGHT BEHIND THE ANTENNAS.
SO, SO THE BLUE IS ESSENTIALLY THE, THE ANTENNAS.
SO, SO YOU, WELL, THE WAY THIS, THIS DRAWING IS, AND THE WAY THERE IS NO KEY THAT SAYS THAT THAT'S OFF THE BUILDING INDICATES TO US FROM THE LINE THAT IT'S ON THE BUILDING ON THE ROOFTOP.
AND IF INDEED IT IS NOT ON THE ROOFTOP, BUT ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND DIRECTLY DOWN, UM, THEN WE NEED SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT.
BUT IF WE GO TO THE PLANS OF THE, LET'S GO TO THE, LET'S CALL IT A VIDEO THING, LET'S GO TO THE PLANS, BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO CO2, THE ANTENNAS ARE ON THE STRUCTURE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOF.
CORRECT? SO SOMEONE CAN STAND IN FRONT OF THEM.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, IT IS ELEVATED.
UM, SO IF YOU DO STAND IN FRONT OF IT, YOU WOULD BE BETWEEN THE FIVE AND A HUNDRED PERCENT IN, IN THAT GREEN AREA.
WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS OF THESE? THERE'S, UM, AS THEY CORRESPOND TO YOUR DIAGRAM, UH, I'M SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE QUESTION.
YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM ON PAGE 21, IT HAS THE ANTENNAS WITH NUMBERS AND I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IF THE ANTENNAS ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE LEDGE THERE, THAT BLUE IS NOT WHERE SOMEONE COULD STAND.
THAT BLUE WOULD BE ON, ON THE, ON THE TOP OF THE ELEVATOR EL ELEVATOR SHAFT, WHICH I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACCESS.
UH, I CAN CONFIRM THERE IS NO ACCESS TICKET UP THERE UNLESS SOMEONE, IF THERE'S A FIRE AND THERE'S A DOOR THAT COMES OUT OF THERE, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO IS ONTO THE ROOF TO GET RESCUED.
RIGHT? AND THE REST OF THE ROOF IS SHOWING
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THE, THE GREEN, WHICH SHOWS THAT WE'RE IN IN COMPLIANCE, THAT ELEVATOR SHAFT, WHICH THE ANTENNAS ARE ATTACHED TO THE, THERE IS NO WAY TO GET ON TOP OF THAT.YOU'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT DIAGRAM, I'M WONDERING.
YEAH, COULD YOU LOOK AT 21 THERE? YOU SEE, I'M LOOKING AT THIS DRAWING AND I'M LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT THESE SIT ON THAT MIDDLE STRUCTURE AND THAT THIS IS THE ROOF.
I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT BLUE, WHAT THAT BLUE HITS.
AND THERE'S NO WRITTEN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THAT BLUE, WHICH IS OVER A HUNDRED.
BECAUSE IF YOU TURN AND LOOK AT 22, IT SHOWS YOU, AGAIN, THIS IS A BOX IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS OF THE BUILDING.
IT LOOKS FINE AND YOU PUT THEM OUT ONTO IT AND STAND THERE.
AND IT'S NOT THAT THAT WOULD BAR THEM FROM HAVING IT, IT WOULD JUST REQUIRE SOME CATION DEMARCATIONS OF THAT LEVEL.
UH, SO IF YOU, ON, ON THE, ON THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE CO2 A, YOU'LL SEE A SIDE, UH, A SIDEWAYS.
I WON'T SEE I'M, I'M ON CT TWO, CO2 A THE NEXT PAGE.
THAT'S THE DRAWING I'M STARING AT.
SO, SO YOU SEE THAT ELEVATED BOX, IF YOU WILL.
THE ANTENNAS ARE ATTACHED TO THAT.
SO IF YOU STAND DIRECTLY BELOW IT, YOU ARE, UH, WE ARE STILL IN COMPLIANCE IN THAT GREEN AREA.
IT'S ONLY IF WE GO ON TOP OF THAT ELEVATOR SHAFT, WHICH THERE IS NO A, THERE'S NO WAY TO, UH, OF GETTING ON TOP OF THERE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THE ANTENNAS ARE FINDING THING OUT THE BOXES BEEN WE SENT FOR, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S ONLY BLUE AT THE VERY EDGE OF THAT BOX.
SO, SO, SO NOT THE REST OF THE ROOF OR EVEN A FOOT IN FRONT, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THE ANTENNA, THE ANTENNAS.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S NO WAY OF GETTING ON TOP OF THAT.
ON TOP OF THAT, THERE MUST THERE VERY HONESTLY, THERE MUST BE, THERE MUST BE FOR SOMEONE WHO'S DOING ROOF REPAIR, THERE MUST MUST BE A WAY TO GET UP THERE.
BUT IN CO2 YOU SHOW THE BOX IN, IN, IN THE CENTER OF THE ROOF.
IT'S AN ELEVATED, IT'S AN ELEVATED, UM, UM, STRUCTURE, BUT THE, AND THE THERE IS, THERE ANTENNA IS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO IT, BUT THEIR POINTING OUT.
SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THE, THE, THE, WHAT COLORS DO YOU HAVE RED OR YELLOW OR BLUE ARE NOT SHOWN ON THE ROOF AREA BETWEEN THE ELEVATED CENTER STRUCTURE AND THE EDGE OF THE ROOF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE.
IT'S NOT THE BACK OF THE ANTENNA, IT'S THE FRONT OF THE ANTENNA.
WELL, I, I, I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S, IT'S THE ANTENNA ITSELF, UM, IS, IS WHAT'S SHOWING THAT THAT BLUE, WHICH IS SHORT AREA, UM, BUT IT'S ONLY ON THE ELEVATED STRUCTURE THAT HAS CHANGED.
BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD BE MAYBE WHAT'S COMING OFF THE BACK OF THE ANTENNA.
BUT WHAT'S COMING OFF THE, WHAT, WHAT'S THE READING? AND, AND THAT EXPLANATION JUST CHANGED BECAUSE HE SAID THAT YOU COULDN'T STAND THERE AND NOW HE'S SAYING IT'S JUST ON THE ANTENNAS.
SO EITHER IT'S WHAT'S ON THAT TOP MAYBE THERE, THERE, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE HEIGHT.
THE, THE HEIGHT OF THESE ANTENNAS ARE, IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET AT THE BOTTOM FROM THE STANDING ROOM.
I CAN IMAGINE THAT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT SHOOTS OUT, IT MAY SHOOT OUT FROM A HIGHER ANGLE, BUT IT DOESN'T DELETE DEFEAT.
THE, IT DOESN'T DENY THE FACT THAT THE, THE WAY THIS DIAGRAM IS DRAWN, IT WOULD REQUIRE, AND WE WOULD BE NEGLIGENT NOT TO POINT THIS OUT.
IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME PART OF FENCING OR GATING OR DEMARCATION AS OTHER PROVIDERS HAVE DONE WHEN THE LEVEL
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IS HIGHER.AND IF THAT ROOF, EVEN WITH A LADDER IS ACCESSIBLE TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT IN THIS INDUSTRY LIKE A ROOFER, THEY NEED TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION AND IT NEEDS TO BE MARKED OUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN WORDS A WRITTEN EXPLANATION, WHICH WE WOULD REQUIRE.
IT IS TO BE, TO ADDRESS THE BLUE SECTION.
WHY DON'T WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF IT? YEAH.
THIS IS FOR PRIMARILY WE HAVEN'T, I'LL TELL YOU, UH, ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE IS
YEAH, WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO AT AND T TO PROVIDE, UM, AN EXPLANATION ON, ON THIS.
UM, WE PREPARED THESE REPORTS, UH, BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR RF ENGINEER HAS.
UM, SO I CAN DEFINITELY GO BACK TO, TO EMILY MCPHERSON WHO PREPARED THIS REPORT AND, AND HAVE HER GIVE A, A BETTER EXPLANATION, UM, AS TO AS TO THAT AND ALSO CONFIRM IF THERE ARE ANY SIGNS OR BARRIERS OR ANYTHING, UH, IN, IN THAT BLUE SECTION.
AND WHEN YOU DO MO MENTION TO HER THAT THAT A HUNDRED TO 500 AREA HAS TO BE APPEARING ON ONE OF THESE CHARTS.
YEAH, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THERE CAN'T BE, UM, MORE THAN I, I I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S ONLY BLUE IN THAT SMALL AREA AND NOT ON THE ROOF ITSELF, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SHOWING WHAT'S ON THE STRUCTURE IN THE CENTER OF THE ROOF, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, UM, HOW THAT'S LIKELY, UM, THAT YOU'RE IN A HUNDRED PERCENT AT LEAST, UH, FIVE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE ON THE ROOF BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE IN ANY OTHER APPLICATION.
THEY USUALLY HAVE TO DEMARCATE AN AREA THAT SAYS THIS IS NOT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DO THE REST OF THE APPLICATION AT COME TO THIS, SO MAYBE WE COME BACK TO IT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE N ONE AND N TWO N THREE.
WE SAID THE LETTER AND THE APPLICATION MUST HAVE THE IDENTICAL LANGUAGE AND UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS CORRECTED, UM, SECTION, SO TO ME THAT'S COMPLETE.
BUT OH, DOESN'T THE QUESTION FOR, OH, AND WHAT WE HAD WAS A CERTIFICATION THAT THE PROPOSED ANTENNAS WILL NOT CAUSE INTERFERENCE WITH THE EXISTING COMMUNICATION DEVICES.
IT SAYS LANGUAGE MUST BE CONSISTENT LANGUAGE IN THE APPLICATION, MUST HAVE IDENTICAL LANGUAGE, TAKE THE LANGUAGE FROM THE LETTER INTO, INTO ITS IN ITS ENTIRETY AND PUT IT IN THE APPLICATION.
AND WHAT IT WRITES, WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT H I'M SORRY, A NEAR NON INTERFERON STATEMENT AT OF AT T IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT G.
THE RADIOFREQUENCY EMISSIONS WILL NOT CAUSE INTERFERENCE WITH THE EXISTING COMMUNICATIONS DEVICES SHALL NOT BE THE ABOVE MENTIONED REPORT ANNUALLY.
THE ABOVE MENTIONED REPORT IS NOT PART OF THIS, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO NO ABOVE MENTIONED REPORT.
IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE SECOND SENTENCE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ASKING FOR A REPORT AND THERE'S NO ABOVE MENTIONED REPORT.
AND IF THE TOWN DOES NOT RECEIVE TOWN OF GREENBURG DOES NOT, UM, RECEIVE THE REPORT BY JANUARY 31ST.
SO THIS LAST SENTENCE AND THE SECOND TO LAST SENTENCE NEED TO BE REMOVED.
THEY DON'T ADDRESS THIS QUESTION.
UM, AND THEN WHAT IT WAS, WHAT THE COMMENT WAS REFERRING TO.
AND NOW LET'S GO TO WHERE YOU TELL US TO GO TO G YOU LEAVE OFF THE LINE AND IN THE EVENT THE PROPOSED ANTENNAS CAUSE HARMFUL
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INTERFERENCE TO EXISTING COMMUNICATION DEVICES, AT AND T WILL REMEDY SUCH INTERFERENCES IN ACCORDANCE WITH FCC REQUIREMENTS.THAT'S THE PART THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED.
YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE LAST TWO SENTENCES AND REMOVE AND PUT IN THE REST OF THAT STATEMENT.
SO IT'S THE SAME DIRECTION AS LAST TIME.
I WILL REMOVE THE LAST TWO SENTENCES WRITTEN IN THE APPLICATION REGARDING A REPORT TWO, ADD, AND THEN DOT, DOT DOT.
AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE PROPOSED.DOT FROM THE LETTER.
OKAY, P WAS COMPLETE LAST TIME.
QA PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR INSTALLATION AND COMPLETION OF THE MODIFIED MODIFICATION PROPOSED SHOULD THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED.
IT WAS INCOMPLETE LAST TIME IN THE APPLICATION OF, I WISH I COULD, MY EYES ARE
AND FOR LOOKING BACK IN THAT TO MY EYE THAT WAS CORRECTED.
THEN IT'S IF THE EXISTING UTILIZES CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS AND DOCUMENT DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION WILL BE DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXISTING CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS AND THE PROPOSED INSTALLATION WILL NOT DEFEAT SAID CONCEALMENT.
UM, THERE WAS CLAR CLARIFY WHAT COLORS A AND T AND T IS PLANNING ON MAKING THE APARTMENTS AND IN APP, SORRY, IN APPLICATION AND ON DRAWINGS, MAKE SURE THE PAINT COLORS IDENTICAL AND IDENTIFY, UM, AND, AND IDENTIFY MANUFACTURER.
AND AGAIN, UH, WAIT, AGAIN, IT WAS CORRECTED BECAUSE IT HAD BEAR IN HERE AS WELL AS THE BRAND.
IT HAD, UM, CORRECTED THE THREE, IT RECONCILED IT WITH THE FIRST QUESTION AND SIX IS SIX AND YOU CORRECTED THE NUMBERS.
THE NUMBERS MATCH THE WRITTEN NUMBER AND THE NUMERICAL NUMBER NOW MATCH.
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AND WE WERE ON TO R WHICH LAST TIME WAS THE ISSUE WITH CLARIFY WHAT COLORS, AND YOU'VE ADDED BEAR TO THIS AND IT'S ON THE DRAWINGS AS WELL.SO THAT HAS ALSO BEEN CORRECTED.
AND NOW WE SHOULD DO S TOGETHER.
UM, STEVE, MOVING FORWARD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO PLEASE STAPLE THE DRAWINGS TOGETHER? STAPLE THE DRAWINGS? UH, YEAH, I'M SURPRISED THAT THEY WEREN'T STABLED.
WE JUST BRING THEM IN AND THEY USUALLY REMEMBER IT'S STABLE IN MYSELF, BUT IT, AND SO WHAT, THE VERY FIRST QUESTION IS WHERE IS THE AT AND T EQUIPMENT? AND I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL THE VERY FIRST PART OF THIS IS THAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE IT'S IN THE BASEMENT.
AND UH, THE BASEMENT EQUIPMENT PLANS IS ON PAGE CO THREE.
IS THIS A WHAT KIND OF ROOM IS THIS? I'M SORRY? WHAT TYPE OF ROOM IS THIS? UH, IT'S, I IMAGINE IT'S A, HOLD ON, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY CLARIFICATION HERE.
IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A STORAGE ROOM, A 20 BY 20 FOOT ROOM IN THE BASEMENT.
WE NEED A DIAGRAM OF THE BASEMENT OF WHERE THIS IS LOCALLY AND HOW MUCH OF THE BASEMENT IT TAKES AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, DO THE WALLS GO UP TO THE CEILING? I WOULD IMAGINE FOR SECURITY THEY SHOULD, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? NOPE.
UH, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A DIAGRAM OF THE ACTUAL, OF THE BASEMENT? OF THE BASEMENT.
THE BASEMENT, BECAUSE YEAH, HOW MUCH OF THE ROOM DOES IT TAKE UP? WHERE IS IT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE STAIRS AND EXITS AND, AND IT, WHETHER IT GOES TO THE CEILING? I MEAN, IT, IT, THESE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT ARE CONSIDERED IN ALL, ALL FORMS OF COMPOUNDS.
DO YOU KNOW IF THESE THINGS ARE SELF-CONTAINED IN A SEPARATE ROOM? IT IT IS SELF-CONTAINED IN A SEPARATE ROOM.
IF YOU CAN SEE IF ON ON THAT, UH, UH, EQUIPMENT PLAN BASEMENT, DO YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A DOOR THERE? UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A SEPARATE ROOM.
WHAT SHEET IS THAT? IT'S CO THREE.
IT, SO TH THIS IS A, UH, A SEPARATE ROOM IN THE BASEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE IN THE BASEMENT IT IS.
THAT'S JUST HOW THE EQUIPMENT IS, IS LAID OUT IN THE BASEMENT, IN THAT, IN THAT ROOM, IN THE BASEMENT, ALL OF IT.
IT IS THE SAME THING AS WITH THE ANTENNAS.
IT IS PART OF MAKING SURE THAT IT DOESN'T EXPAND THAT IT'S AN EFR, THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.
AND THEN ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SIZE OF THE BASEMENT, MAYBE A DRAW ABOVE THAT, UH, DRAWING THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LEFT SIDE.
YOU COULD HAVE THE LAYOUT OF, UH, THE BASEMENT.
WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT ELSE IS IN THE BASEMENT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THIS SQUARE? BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER STRUCTURES, IF IT'S BLOCKING ANYTHING, ANY WEIGHT BLOCKS, EXIT TO THE FIRE, WHAT YOU KNOW.
YEAH, JUST LIKE OF ON THE ROOF, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE DOOR TO THE DOOR IS.
SOUNDS LIKE A SONG WE ALL KNOW ON THE ROOF.
UM, THIS SAYS A DOOR GOING TO THE LEFT THAT'S THE SAME ON BOTH SIDES.
YEAH, THIS IS THE DOOR OUT OF THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW US, AT LEAST I DIDN'T SEE IT SAYS THIS IS, IT'S UP AGAINST THE WALL OF THE BUILDING OR ANYTHING ELSE.
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THE COLOR MUST BE IDENTIFIED.THAT'S TWO THREE WAS PROVIDE A LAYOUT OF HOW THE SIGNS WILL BE PLACED.
CAN YOU DIRECT US TO THAT? UH, YES.
THAT IS ON, ON PAGE CO SIX AND WE, UH, DRAFT UP A, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED LAYOUT OF HOW THE SIGNS WILL BE, UH, PUT ON THE DOOR.
AND THAT DOOR IS IN THE MIDDLE STRUCTURE ON THE ROOF.
THAT IS THE ACCESS DOOR TO THE ROOF.
LET ME CHECK WHERE EXACTLY IT IS.
THAT'S NEXT TO THE EXISTING, IT'S DIRECTLY UNDER THE EXISTING RELOCATED AT, AT T SECTOR.
THE ACCESS DOOR IS, UM, RIGHT UNDER THE GAMMA SECTOR.
SO C ONE OR RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO IT I SHOULD SAY.
I AM LOOKING FOR THE DOOR AT THE MOMENT.
AND UH, I'M, I'M, I'M SORRY, I'M ON PAGE CO2 OF THE CDS.
SO YOU ARE ON CO2 CO2, UH, CO2.
AND I'M, I'M ON THE LEFT SIDE.
UH, YOU'LL SEE A NOTE THAT SAYS ROOF ACCESS DOOR WITH AT T SIGNAGE AND IT POINTS TO, SO IF, IF, IF YOU GO TO CO2 CODE AND YOU GO GET THE, ITS CUBE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INSTALLATION, ALL THE ANTENNAS ON IT AND TO THE RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
THERE'S A VERTICAL IT, THE EXISTING T-MOBILE EQUIPMENT PLATFORM, THERE'S A VERTICAL RECTANGLE.
UH, YES, THE EXISTING T-MOBILE ANTENNAS, UH, THAT, THAT IT'S A VERTICAL, UM, ON THAT EDGE AND THE DOOR IS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.
SO IS THE DOOR DIAGRAMMED HERE? IT IS, IT IS, UH, A DIAGRAMMED ON PAGE CO2, C2 A WITH ALL THE ANTENNAS, CO2 A ON CO2 A, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS NOT DIAGRAM ACTUALLY.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S, SO IT'S NOT THE, IT, SO, UM, HOLD ON, IT'S NOT LABELED, BUT THERE IS A SQUARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ELEVATOR SHAFT OF THAT, UH, ELEVATED, UH, STRUCTURE.
YOU'LL SEE A RECTANGLE THERE AND THAT IS THE DOOR.
NOW IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MEASUREMENTS, IT SAYS THE OOF IS 38 FEET, TWO INCHES, AND THE BOTTOM OF THE TOP OF THE SQUARE WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE MOUNTED IS 48 FEET ONE INCH.
SO LET'S ROUND IT TO TWO INCHES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT SQUARE, THAT RECTANGLE, IT'S SMALLER THAN FIVE FEET.
IT'S MORE LIKE FOUR FEET, FOUR AND A HALF FEET.
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ANY DOOR FOR PUBLIC USE THAT THAT US.YOU SEE THE PROBLEM, I I'M I'M SORRY.
JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE DOOR IS NOT TO SCALE IN, IN THE DRAWING.
AND SINCE ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE MEANT TO SHOW US SOMETHING AND YOU'RE, YOU IDENTIFIED THE UNLABELED RECTANGLE AS THE DOOR, AND I'M USING YOUR MEASUREMENTS TO ESTABLISH THAT THE HEIGHT OF THAT STRUCTURE IS ONE INCH SHORT OF 10 FEET AND THAT IMAGE OF THE DOOR DOES NOT QUITE GET TO HALF, WHICH MAY WOULD AT MOST WOULD MAKE IT JUST FIVE FEET.
AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM, YES, THESE ARE OVERSIZED DOORS, BUT AN AVERAGE HOUSE DOOR IS A, IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN SIX FEET.
AND THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENTITY.
SO IT, THIS DOOR IS NOT TO SCALE.
AND THE INTENTIONS OF ALL OF THIS IS SO THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EVERYTHING IS.
SO THAT THROWS THE ENTIRE DRAWING INTO QUESTION.
NUMBER TWO, THAT DOOR IS DIRECTLY UNDER AN ANTENNA.
AND YOU HAVE JUST TOLD US THAT IT'S THE WALL RIGHT THERE THAT IS BLUE.
SO THAT THROWS THAT ARGUMENT INTO QUESTION.
WE HAVE SOME TRUE ISSUES HERE WITH THE DRAWING AND THE EXPLANATION OF THE BLUE AND THE FAILURE TO PROPERLY IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS.
ALL RIGHT, BUT ON, OKAY, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, THAT DOOR IS NOT TO SCALE AND AND SO ON, BUT IF YOU DO SEE ON THE, ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE, THE DOOR ISN'T UNDER THE ANTENNA.
THE DOOR IS IS IN BETWEEN T-MOBILE'S EQUIPMENT AND AT AND T'S EQUIPMENT.
BUT, AND ON PAGE CO2, THAT'S JUST HOW THAT DRAWING WAS DONE.
UM, AND THAT'S HOW, I GUESS THAT'S HOW THEY SHOWED THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE DOOR BEING.
WHEN, WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT CO2 AND I SEE A LINE THE FRONT TO THE WALL THAT GIVES ME NO DIMENSIONS AND DOESN'T, DOES NOT SHOW ME CLEARLY ANYTHING OTHER THAN WE HAVE NO OVERLAPPING WITH ARROWS.
SO I'M DIANE PLEASE JUST ONE SECOND.
SO I AM THE, THE DIAGRAM THAT WE BASE EVERYTHING ON SHOWS US THAT YOU'RE NOT, THE MEASUREMENTS ARE INACCURATE.
AND WE GO BY THAT AND WE, WE HAVE YOU WITH US HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF CO2 A, THAT DIAGRAM AND THAT DIAGRAM THAT ALL ITS MEASUREMENTS THAT JUSTIFY AN EFR AND JUSTIFY THAT IT'S NOT BIGGER AND IT DOESN'T TAKE MORE SPACE.
AND THESE ARE WHAT WE BASE EVERYTHING ON.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A DOOR THAT'S NOT LABELED THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ACTUALLY NOT UNDER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNDER.
AND IF IT'S NOT, YOU SHOULD BE PROVIDING A SECOND DRAWING OF A SIDE VIEW THAT SHOWS US THAT.
BUT IT DOES SAY FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THE BLUE AND AND FRANCIS' POINT OF WE HAVE NO REAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THIS BLUE IS.
NOW THIS THROWS THE DIAGRAM INTO QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT, WE CAN NO LONGER ASSUME IT'S ANYTHING ELSE IS TO SCALE.
AND IT ALSO THROW IT, IT CONFIRMS THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BLUE ON YOUR DIAGRAM ON PAGE 21.
SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WRITE THIS UP AND YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CORRECT YOUR DRAWINGS.
I BELIEVE THE MATERIALS ARE INCLUDED.
I SAW THAT IN SOMETHING, UH, ON PAGE CO2 A, UH, RIGHT UPPER FOR YEAH, OF THE
SO THAT WAS MATERIALS WAS ONE OF THEM.
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IT FOR ANTENNAS AND EQUIPMENT, EXCEL, RIGHT, THE SIGNS AND THE COLOR.AND NOW WITH THE VERY FIRST QUESTION IS WHERE'S THE AT T EQUIPMENT? AND NOW WE KNOW WHERE IT IS AND WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT IN OUR FIRST THING OF THE DIAGRAM OF THE BASEMENT AND LOCATION OF EQUIP.
THE SECOND THING IS WE'RE DIRECTING THE DRAWING, UM, MAKING SURE ALL ELEMENTS OF THE DRAWING ARE TO SCALE AND IDENTIFIED THE DOOR SHOULD HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
WE'LL COME BACK TO THE, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS ON THAT, THAT MAKE THAT INCOMPLETE IS, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? SO I WROTE DIAGRAM ON BA UH, BASEMENT AND LOCATION OF EQUIPMENT ROOM AS ONE.
MAKE SURE ALL ELEMENTS OF THE DRAWING ARE TO SCALE AND IDENTIFIED AND WHERE ARE THE ANTENNAS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE DOOR.
A SECOND DRAWING MAY BE NEEDED.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST NOT, THE WRITING IS OKAY.
AND YOU JUST, WE JUST LOOKED AT THE LAYOUT OF THE SIGNS.
WHAT PAGE WERE THE SIGNS ON? AGAIN, THAT'S ON PAGE CO SIX GUYS WOULD SAY SOMEPLACE AT FIVE FEET, NOT MORE THAN FIVE FEET.
AND WHAT THEY'RE MADE OF SHOULD BE, UH, ON PAGE CO SIX, UM, IT'S IN BLOCK NUMBER FIVE.
UH, SIGN IS TO BE RED LETTERS WITH WHITE BACKGROUND AND TO BE PROVIDED BY CARRIERS.
SIGN SHOULD BE 12 BY BY 19 STAINLESS STEEL OR ALUMINUM.
UH, SIGN SHALL NOT BE MOUNTED OR SHALL BE MOUNTED NO GREATER THAN FIVE FEET ABOVE GROUND LEVEL.
AND THEN WE HAD U WAS COMPLETE.
INSURANCE IS GREAT, INSURANCE IS GREAT.
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ON A, B, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, HI, J, KLM WERE COMPLETE, N IS NOT COMPLETE.AND WE MUST AGREE ON HOW TO WRITE THIS AND I'M OPEN TO HOW YOU THINK WE SHOULD WRITE THIS, THAT THE CHARTS DO NOT REFLECT, UM, THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OR THE A HUNDRED PLUS PERCENT ANYWHERE ON THE CHARTS OF THE DIAGRAM.
HOW SHOULD WE WRITE A WRITTEN EXPLANATION OF THE EXPOSURE FROM THE QUESTION WAS HOW, HOW IS IT PROCESSED? WHERE, WHERE IS THAT ONE A WRITTEN EXPLANATION OF WHERE THE THE GLUE ACTUALLY RADIATES? YEAH, TO ME THIS ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE RADIATION GOING BACKWARDS, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE RADIATION GOING FORWARD.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IT'S PUTTING A BLUE BACKWARDS BUT NOT BLUE FORWARD.
SO MAYBE EXPLAIN WHERE THE BLUE RADIATES.
YEAH, AND MAYBE PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE CATEGORIES ARE SO BROAD, IT'S FIVE TO A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED TO 500.
THAT WOULD BE FINE, EXCEPT IT DOESN'T, I I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE ANTENNAS COULD BE IN COMPLIANCE IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THEM, WHICH GETS US TO WHAT AREA NEEDS TO BE CORDED OFF AROUND THIS STRUCTURE THAT HAS THE ANTENNAS ON IT.
WHAT I WROTE IS, UM, THE CHARTS DO NOT INCLUDE THE A HUNDRED TO 500% BLUE OF THE DIAGRAM.
TWO, EXPLAIN WHERE THE ANTENNAS RADIATE.
THREE, EXPLAIN HOW AND WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL BE WARNED IS THAT, UM, BE WARNED OF EXCEEDING THE UH, MV OF EXCEEDING PERMISSIBLE MP MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE.
YEAH, EXCEEDING A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND THEN UNDER UM, THREE, UH, N THREE WAS COMPLETE, THEN O CERTIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED ANTENNA WILL NOT CAUSE INTERFERENCE WAS INCOMPLETE.
REMOVE ONE, REMOVE THE LAST TWO SENTENCES WRITTEN IN THE APPLICATION REGARDING A REPORT TO ADD QUOTE, DO, DO.
AND IN THE EVENT IT PROPOSED DO.DOT FROM THE LETTER P WAS COMPLETE.
WE NEED A DIAGRAM OF THE BASEMENT AND LOCATION OF EQUIPMENT.
ROOM TWO, MAKE SURE ALL ELEMENTS OF THE DRAWINGS ARE TO SCALE AND IDENTIFIED.
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ANTENNAS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE DOOR? A SECOND DIAGRAM MAY BE NEEDED, T IS COMPLETE, U IS COMPLETE AND V IS COMPLETE.I MAKE A MOTION TO REDEEM THIS APPLICATION.
UM, I WILL GIVE THIS TO YOU FRANCIS TO LOOK OVER AND UNFORTUNATELY STEVE'S NOT HERE IN AN INITIAL WAY BUT TO, BUT MONDAY, TODAY'S FRIDAY, MONDAY, UM, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL SEND THIS TO HIM.
SO I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM REALLY QUICK, SINCE I'M NOT THERE TO INITIAL, UM, THE ONLY SECTIONS, I MEAN I'LL RECEIVE IT ON MONDAY, BUT UM, JUST SO THAT MY NOTES ARE CORRECT, THE ONLY SECTIONS THAT ARE INCOMPLETE ARE THE, UM, 14 N 15 OH OR 14 N ONE AND TWO 15 O 19 S 14 ONE AND 2 15 0 19 S ARE THE ONES THAT ARE INCOMPLETE.
YOU SENT AN EMAIL ASKING FOR THE, IF WE COULD RETURN THE APPLICATION THAT YOU WITHDREW.
I WRITE IN MY BOOKS ALL THE TIME AND CANNOT RETURN ANYTHING 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL FULL WITH MY NOTES AND WE ARE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU BACK THE LOOSE LEAFS BUT NOT THE PAPERS.
UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY SUBMITTING THAT ONE IN VERY SHORTLY.
UM, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN DISREGARD THAT, THAT APPLICATION WE'RE JUST, UH, MISSING A FEW.
I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE AN AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP.
UM, AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, IT SHOULD BE ARRIVING BY MONDAY.
SO BY NEXT WEEK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE IT.
OH MY, I WOULD JUST MAKE THAT LAST OF AN X IN THE BOX, OTHERWISE.
SO MR. SHIN, WILL YOU DO, WILL YOU TAKE IT UP AND GET IT STAMP TO STAMP IT OR, UH, YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.
SINCE WE CANNOT GIVE IT TO YOU TONIGHT.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN? I SECOND THAT.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU, STEVE? THAT PROBABLY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL SEND YOU AAMP COPY ON MONDAY MORNING? ON MONDAY MORNING? STEVE, IS IT OKAY WITH YOU IF WE DON'T WAIT FOR FRANCIS TO COME BACK DOWN? STEVE, HAVE YOU LEFT THE BUILDING? I SURE IS ST IS THERE, BUT I DON'T HEAR HIM.
THERE WAS SOME, WAIT, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.
I THINK UH, THERE WAS SOME INTERNET PROBLEMS ON MY END.
TOJO, I BELIEVE ADJOURNING THE MEETING.
AND UH, STAY SAFE OUT THERE WITH THE STORM COMING.
HAVE A, YEAH, THIS IS QUITE A STORM COMING TODAY IT SOUNDS LIKE.