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WELCOME, UH, TARA TOWN BOARD MEETING, UH, WORK SESSION TODAY.
TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 29TH AT FIVE 30.
AND WE, YOU'RE AGAIN, THE TOWN CLERK AGAIN.
SO, UM, UH, DEPUTY, YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT NORMALLY THE TOWN CLERK'S BEEN MISSING ALL THESE MEETINGS, AND IS, IS THIS A, IS SHOULD WE BE SAYING THE REASONS WHY SHE'S CONSTANTLY MISSING AND WORKS WELL? SURE.
YOU SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT SHE WAS AT THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS LAST WEEK.
UM, REMEMBER WE ALL ELECTED HER TO REPRESENT US.
SO THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY SHE WASN'T HERE LAST.
AND THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.
NO, BUT IT'S NUMEROUS MEETING.
IT'S, AND WE ALSO VOTED AND YOU VOTED FOR HER AS WELL.
PAUL AUTHORIZING HER TO ATTEND THAT MEETING, RIGHT? NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER MEETINGS AND PEOPLE ARE, ARE COMPLAINING TO ME.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOWN CLERK IS TO BE HERE AND TO BE AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO HER? I'M, I I'M JUST, I THOUGHT THAT LAST WEEK I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
DID YOU SPEAK IT TO HER? I DIDN'T SPEAK TO HER ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH, I, I ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, EMAILED, BUT I, I THINK IN THE FUTURE I WILL SPEAK TO HER AND I THINK IN THE FUTURE SHE, GOOD IDEA SHOULD BE AT EVERY MEETING UNLESS, YOU KNOW, SHE'S ON VACATION OR SICK.
AND I DID REACH OUT TO HER, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH EMAIL.
UM, UH, SO NEXT, UH, PROPOSED, UH, STREET CLOSING.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO THIS CAME IN AT THE LAST MOMENT AND, UH, BUT IT'S A NEW ONE, SO MAYBE THEY DON'T KNOW THE, THE, THE PROTOCOL.
UM, SO REALLY IT'S BEFORE US TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY SAFETY CONCERNS THAT, UH, IT MAY ADDRESS.
AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS RATIFY THE STREET CLOSING AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND I, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND POLICE DEPARTMENT ASKED THE LEGAL TO COME UP WITH INDEN AN INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE FOR THESE TYPES OF STREET CLOSING.
SO WE'VE MADE THAT PART OF THE PROTOCOLS.
WELL NOW TOO, BEFORE THE EVENT TAKES PLACE TO ADD THAT TO THE PAPERWORK AND WHO IS SUPPOSED TO INDEMNIFY THE TOWN? IT'S OFFICIALS, AGENTS, AND VOLUNTEERS.
WHAT'S THE CHANCES OF THEM DOING THAT? 'CAUSE THEY NEED INSURANCE TO DO THAT.
SO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WILL TYPICALLY REQUIRE THAT BEFORE A CLOSING.
AND PD CAME TO LEGAL AND REQUESTED THAT, THAT BE IMPLEMENTED FROM NOW ON.
UM, THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAD ASKED FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO WE HAD SENT THAT INFORMATION OVER.
OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO THE TOWN BOARD TO CREATE THAT POLICY.
UM, BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS REQUESTED OF LEGAL.
'CAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW HALLOWEEN STREET WILL THOSE THINGS COMING UP.
AND TYPICALLY THOSE WOULD NOT BE, THEY WOULD NOT BE SEEKING INSURANCE POLICIES FOR THOSE.
WELL, THE, THE REASON, THE REASON WHY IT, I KNOW THE REASON WHY THIS IS BEING REQUESTED IS BECAUSE WE GIVE OUT BARRIERS AND THERE'S THE, SO THE TOWN IS INVOLVED IN THAT STREET CLOSING, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE A POLICE OFFICER STANDING THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BARRIER ISN'T MOVED.
WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO DO THAT.
SO IF SOMEBODY MOVES THOSE BARRIERS, UH, AND SOMEBODY IN THAT, ON THAT STREET GETS HURT OR KILLED, UM, THE TOWN IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT AND A LAWSUIT AS TO, WELL, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT ALLOWED THE CLOSING OF THE STREET AND DIDN'T SECURE THAT STREET SUFFICIENTLY.
AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A CONCERN OF THE POLICE CHIEFS FOR SOME TIME, UH, AND, UH, HE'S ASKING THAT IT BE ADDRESSED.
IS THERE, UM, ANYTHING AT AS LIKE A SHORT TERM, ONE SHOT DEAL INSURANCE KIND OF THING THAT IS NOT OVERLY COSTLY? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? I, I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
AND THEN THE PAPERWORK I DRAFTED, UM, I DID NOT REQUIRE IN AN INSURANCE PROVISION.
SO THAT WOULD REALLY BE ON THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THAT DECISION IF THEY WANTED TO GO THAT ROUTE OR NOT.
UM, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE ABOUT A TEMPORARY INSURANCE PROVISION.
I'D HAVE TO ASK AN INSURANCE AGENT THINK IT'S WORTH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A A A GROUP'S PLANNING ON SHUTTING A STREET.
AND I THINK THAT DYLAN MIGHT HAVE AN IDEA.
UH, I'M SPEAKING AS PRESIDENT OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL.
AND YOUR NAME IS? I AM DYLAN PINE.
UM, YEAH, SO THIS, THIS APPLICANT IS A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN EDGEMONT.
UM, AND SO THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL'S INSURANCE POLICY.
WE HAVE AN INSURANCE POLICY THAT COVERS, UH, THE COTSWOLD ASSOCIATION AS A RECOGNIZED
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CIVIC ASSOCIATION, AND THEN ALSO THE SEVEN OTHER AREAS, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN EDGEMONT.THEY ALSO FALL IN FRONT UNDER OUR, UH, LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY FOR THIS SPECIFIC THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW IN GENERAL, BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
AT LEAST, AT LEAST FOR EDGEMONT, ALL OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE COVERED UNDER YES.
I THINK THAT POLICY AND PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING THE CGCA COULD CONSIDER FOR THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
IS WHICH STREET IS THAT FOR? UH, SO THIS OLD COLONY AND BROOK EAST BROOK LANE? YEAH.
SO THAT, THAT'S FOR THE GREEN RIDGE BLOCK PARTY.
THAT'S NEXT SATURDAY FROM FOUR TO SEVEN.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE HERE FOR SOUTH MANOR DRIVE.
I'M NOT SURE WHO SUBMITTED THAT.
UH, THAT ONE WAS SUBMITTED BY, UH, JULIE FOWLING.
AND I'LL ASK IF, IF, UH, YOU HAVE AN INSURANCE POLICY, I GUESS SOME TO WALK AROUND.
YEAH, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH HER TO SEE IF THERE'S A PO IF SHE HAS A POLICY OF SOME SORT.
SHE PROBABLY DOES NOT, BUT WE SHOULD, I DON'T KNOW.
IF NOT, I MIGHT, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DRAFT SOMETHING THAT COULD, TO SATISFY BOTH PARTIES.
BUT WHY DON'T WE FIND OUT FIRST AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
AND THAT ONE IS OCTOBER 18TH, I BELIEVE? YES.
ALRIGHT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? SORRY.
I'M A LAWYER WITH THE, TO TALKING TO THIS LAWYER.
UM, ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM OF KEENAN BEAM REPRESENTING BIOMED REALTY, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY SAL ZINO, UH, FROM BIOMED REALTY, PAUL SEK FROM JMC CONSULTING, AND ALSO GEORGE RADOS FROM MY OFFICE.
UM, AND THEN WITH US VIA ZOOM HOPEFULLY IS, UH, DIEGO FROM JMC AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO UPDATE YOU ON OUR APPLICATION, UH, FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE OFFICE CAMPUS ON SAWMILL RIVER ROAD TO A WAREHOUSE USE.
UM, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME SINCE WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU.
UH, WE WERE BEFORE YOU LAST SUMMER IN JULY WHEN YOU DECLARED YOURSELF LEAD AGENCY AND REFERRED US TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, WE WERE BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD FROM, UM, MR. PINE
UM, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, RESPONDING TO COMMENTS, UH, AND THE PLANNING BOARD ISSUED ITS RECOMMENDATIONS IN DECEMBER.
UM, WE HAVE TAKEN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND, AND COMBED THROUGH THEM VERY CAREFULLY AND REALLY TOOK THEM TO HEART.
AND, UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO REVISE THE SITE PLAN TO RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT.
UM, BEFORE WE MAKE A REQUEST TO MOVE FORWARD, REQUEST TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, FOR SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND MOVE THE APPLICATION, UH, TO THE NEXT STEP.
WE WANTED TO COME IN AND SHOW YOU THE REVISED SITE PLAN BECAUSE IT IS, UM, WE, WE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, UM, SPECIFICALLY SOME SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS, UM, IN THE PLAN.
HAVE YOU RESUBMITTED THAT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AT THIS POINT? UH, NO.
SO WE'RE, WE'VE CONCLUDED, WE, WE'VE, WE RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD IN DECEMBER, WHICH CONCLUDED THEIR REFERRAL PROCESS.
SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO COME BACK TO YOU, UM, TO, TO, TO MOVE THE, THE PROJECT FORWARD.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UM, TURN IT OVER TO, TO PAUL TO WALK THROUGH THAT PLAN.
UM, BEFORE I DO THAT, I, I WANNA MENTION AS WELL, 'CAUSE THE LAST TIME WE MET, UM, WE ALSO DISCUSSED OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR, UM, SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON ON THE SLIDE THERE, IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED, IT'S ADJACENT TO HASTINGS, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET FROM HASTINGS.
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IT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM ARDSLEY.DOBBS FERRY IS, IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH.
SO, UM, AS PART OF OUR SORT OF TOUR WITH THE PLANNING BOARD
WE HAD, UM, A ZOOM CALL WITH HASTINGS AND WE APPEARED AT THE ARDSLEY VILLAGE BOARD MEETING AND THE DOBBS FERRY VILLAGE BOARD MEETING AND GAVE, UM, PRESENTATIONS TO THE BOARD, UM, TO, TO INFORM 'EM ABOUT THE PROJECT AND RECEIVE ANY, ANY FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UM, OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS THE WESTCHESTER HILLS CEMETERY.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET IN HASTINGS, UH, THE APARTMENT BUILDING, THE LOFTS, APARTMENT BUILDING.
UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE RELEVANT PARTIES.
AND I SHOULD MENTION THAT OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH IS ACTUALLY, UH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY PARKS AND, AND REC BUILDING.
UM, THAT'S THEIR, THEIR HEADQUARTERS FOR THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THE SHARED ACCESS.
UM, SO I WANTED TO, TO GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE AS WELL THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.
PART OF THE PLAN REVISIONS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UM, STEM FROM COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE WESTCHESTER HILL CEMETERY, IN PARTICULAR, THE AREA TO THE SOUTH, UM, WE CALL IT LOT TWO, UH, WHICH IS A, IT'S A NINE ACRE PARCEL THAT WAS, UH, CREATED BY A SUBDIVISION SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL IS NOW ELIMINATED FROM OUR SITE PLANT APPLICATION.
SO WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY DISTURBANCE ON THAT LOT.
AND THAT LOT IS ACTUALLY PROPOSED TO BE CONVEYED TO THE CEMETERY.
UM, CEMETERY HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN ACQUIRING THAT FROM BIOMED.
SO, UM, IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THAT AREA IS ALSO THE AREA THAT HAS HAD THE MOST SIGNIFICANT STEEP SLOPES, DISTURBANCES AND TREE REMOVAL.
SO, UM, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DISTURBANCES AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN HAVE NOW BEEN REMOVED.
UM, SO WE FIND THAT TO BE A VERY POSITIVE THING,
UM, SO THIS SLIDE PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT FOR THE APPLICATION, JUST SOME BASIC INFORMATION.
THE, THE ADDRESS AT FOUR TEN FOUR SIXTY SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.
IT IS, UH, FORMERLY LAB AND OFFICE SPACE, UH, A LIFE SCIENCES SPACE THAT IS NOW RELATIVELY DEFUNCT.
UM, IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR AT LEAST FOUR AND A HALF, ALMOST FIVE YEARS NOW.
UM, THERE ARE FOUR EXISTING BUILDINGS AND A CENTRAL UTILITY PLANT CURRENTLY ON THE SITE, UM, TOTALING JUST UNDER 260,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND THIS REVISED PLAN PROPOSES TO REMAIN SUBSTANTIALLY WITHIN THAT EXISTING DEVELOPED FOOTPRINT.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A TRADITIONAL WAREHOUSE USE, NOT A LAST MILE.
SO THIS ISN'T GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, DIRECT PRODUCT GOING DIRECTLY TO A CONSUMER MORE, YOU KNOW, BACK OFFICE STORAGE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, RETAILER OR WHOLESALER.
UM, SO VERY DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PROFILE IN THAT CONTEXT.
IT'S IN THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
IT IS A, A PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USE SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL, AND WE'RE NOT SEEKING ANY VARIANCES.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WOULD WORK THERE? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
WE CERTAINLY WOULD, UH, GENERATE A, UM, A FAIR AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION JOBS DURING, UM, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE
WE DON'T HAVE A, A PROPOSED END USER RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEKING THE ENTITLEMENTS AND, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET LUCKY AND
UM, AND I CAN GET THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS OR MAYBE PAUL HAS THEM MORE HANDY THAN I DO.
PAUL S YOU JUST TALK INTO THEM, RIGHT, PLEASE.
UM, WE HAVEN'T UPDATED OUR TRAFFIC STUDY YET FOR THE NEW PLAN, BUT OUR OLD PLAN HAD, UM, 479 TRUCK AND CAR TRIPS TOTAL, WHICH IS A VEHICLE OR 240 TOTAL VEHICLES, WHICH A DAY INCLUDE A, A DAY.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE, UM, TWO WHAT KINDS OF VEHICLES? SO ONE, UH, PASSENGER VEHICLE AND THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PASSENG, THERE WILL BE, UM, SOME TRUCKS ASSOCIATED WITH THE, HOW MANY TRUCKS WOULD YOU SAY? UM, LET'S SEE, 159 TRUCKS, UM, FOR THE PROJECT.
BUT THAT IS, AND WHAT ARE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY? THE BOUNDARY OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WENT, UH, I THINK IT WAS FIVE INTERSECTIONS
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THAT WE STUDIED AND WENT DOWN TO, UM, JACKSON AVENUE AND UP THROUGH ARDSLEY.AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE COORDINATED THAT WITH THE TOWN.
LEY LINE OF LEY, UM, I DON'T REALLY RECALL, IS DIEGO, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE, THE COMPANY THAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY BE DOING THIS, SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW BECAUSE YOU DON'T, WELL, THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IF I COULD CHIME JUST REAL QUICK, I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S, UH, IT'S DIEGO FROM JMC.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PREPARED ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN, WHICH WAS A LARGER BUILDING, AND IT DID EXTEND UP AND DOWN THAT SAW MILL RIVER CORRIDOR.
WE WOULD EXPECT AT, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, YOU'RE GONNA WANNA SEE THE UPDATED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO REFLECT THE SMALLER BUILDING, UH, VEHICLE TRIPS WILL REDUCE, UM, FROM THAT ORIGINAL PLAN PROPORTIONALLY BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN THAT THERE WAS THE COMMITMENT THAT, AND I THINK JEN, YOU TOUCHED ON THIS.
UM, THIS IS NOT A LAST MILE FACILITY.
IT'S NOT AN AMAZON, IT'S NOT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S MORE OF A TRADITIONAL WAREHOUSE, WHICH IS A, A LOWER TRAFFIC GENERATOR.
THAT IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER PREVIOUSLY, UM, WHERE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW HOW MANY TRUCK TRIPS AND EVERYTHING.
WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION BASED ON THE UPDATED, UH, PLAN.
I, I DO THINK TODAY, UM, BEING A WORK SESSION AND THE FIRST MEETING BACK AFTER A LONG TIME WAS, WAS OUR HOPE TO INTRODUCE THAT REVISED PLAN TO SHOW SOME OF THE, THE, THE REVISED, UM, LIMITS OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, HOW IT'S BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED AND A LOT OF THE AREAS, BUT LOVE SOME OF GREAT QUESTIONS, UNDERSTOOD COMPLETELY NOT KNOWING THE END USER IS A PIECE OF IT, AND NOT HAVING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS FULLY UPDATED YET.
BASED ON THIS PLAN, WE WANTED TO GET SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK BEFORE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED, UM, BUT IT WILL BE PROPORTIONATELY REDUCED FROM WHAT WE PROVIDED LAST TIME.
AND WE WERE, UH, WORKING WITH YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER PREVIOUSLY THERE.
UH, UM, UH, JOHN CANNING KIMLEY-HORN WAS RETAINED TO REVIEW THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, THE CONCLUSIONS OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
UM, JOHN DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE, WERE, WERE BEING WORKED THROUGH, BUT A LOT OF THAT RELATED TO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THE OPERATIONS OF THE INTERSECTIONS, HOW THOSE DRIVEWAYS WERE GOING TO WORK.
A LOT OF THAT WAS, WAS VETTED AS PART OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND AGAIN, NOW THAT IT'S BEING REDUCED, THE BUILDING, ALL OF THOSE IMPACTS AND THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE GONNA BE PROPORTIONALLY REDUCED AS A RESULT OF THAT.
SO, UH, IT'S ALL POSITIVES WHEN WE LOOK AT IT.
IT'S NOT ONLY THE REDUCED DISTURBANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT IS, UH, GONNA HAVE REDUCED TRAFFIC IMPACTS AS WELL.
AND LASTLY, AND I KNOW I'M, I'M RAMBLING HERE, BUT LASTLY, JUST, UH, ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DOT AS WELL.
UM, THE DOT, THIS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE DOT AS PART OF THE INITIAL PROJECT.
THEY PROVIDED A HANDFUL OF COMMENTS, A COPY OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PROVIDED TO THEM AS WELL.
UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
SO, UM, UH, SORRY, I KNOW THAT WAS A LONGWINDED ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT I JUST FELT WE WERE JUMPING INTO SOME DETAILS THAT I'M GONNA COME AS, AS THIS PROCESS CONTINUES TO UNFOLD BASED ON THE
WELL, AS LONG AS YOU ARE, IT, IT'S TO COME.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE SOME IDEA, SOME COMPARISON BECAUSE IT'S THROWN OUT RATHER LOOSELY THAT IT'S NOT A LAST MILE.
BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT IS THE COMPARISON IF IT WERE IN AMAZON? UM, BUT TO, IN ALL HONESTY, AND I THINK MAYBE YOU REMEMBER, UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE, I LIVE ON JACK OFF OF JACKSON AVENUE AND I AM SUBJECT TO A GREAT DEAL OF TRAFFIC.
I ALSO TRAVEL ALONG NINE A SAW MILL RIVER ROAD, OBVIOUSLY VERY
AND THE CONDITIONS TRADITIONALLY ARE, IT'S A NEW YORK STATE ROAD, BUT IT, IT, THE WEAR AND TEAR OF TRUCK TRAFFIC IS OF GREAT CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THOSE OF US WHO DRIVE.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION TO GARRETT.
UM, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT CAN'T BE, IT WON'T BE AMAZON, LET'S SAY, UM, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
UM, AMAZON SAYS, WOULD LIKE TO BUY, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING AND WE, WE ARE DECIDING TO CHANGE THE USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT RESTRICTIONS COULD THE TOWN HAVE, UH, TO PREVENT AMAZON, UH, OR A COMPANY LIKE AMAZON FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM PURCHASING IT AND USING IT FOR WAREHOUSE FOR, FOR THEIR PURPOSES? UM, I MEAN, IS THERE, IF WE APPROVE THIS, UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, RESTRICTIONS THAT WE CAN IMPOSE? OF COURSE.
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PROJECT INCLUDED A VERY COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT DID THE COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS BETWEEN FULL BUILD OUT OF THE OFFICE SPACE, IF IT WERE REOCCUPIED MM-HMMAND THE, THE NUMBER OF WORKERS THAT WOULD BE THERE.
IT ALSO CONTRASTED A NON LASTS MILE FACILITY, BUT AS FAR AS, UM, CONTROLS THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD HAVE AND THE BOARDS OF THE TOWN WOULD BE CONDITIONING AND SEEKER.
SO, UM, THEY'RE REPRESENTING THAT THIS WILL NOT BE A LAST MILE FACILITY.
I THINK THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THE TOWN WITH, UM, EXACTLY WHAT THOSE MAX TRIPS WOULD BE.
AND THEN WHEN THEY GO OUT SEEKING TENANTS THAT WOULD TAKE THAT SPACE TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT TENANT EXCEEDS WHAT WAS STUDIED AND THE MITIGATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FOR THAT LEVEL OF TRAFFIC, UM, THEY CONCEIVABLY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN A VERY EXTREME SCENARIO.
IF THEY SAID, UM, WITH AN APPROVAL IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY NON LASTS MILE FACILITIES, OR IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY LAST MILE FACILITY INTEREST, WE DO HAVE AMAZON THAT IS WILLING TO TAKE UP ALL OF THIS SPACE.
WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS COME BACK AND SHOW WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO THE, DUE TO THE TRAFFIC NETWORK TO VALIDATE AN INTENSE, A MORE INTENSE BUSINESS MODEL LIKE THAT MM-HMM
UM, SO THE TOWN BOARD WOULD HAVE CONTROL VIA SEEKER FINDINGS AS WELL AS, UH, A CONDITION THAT WOULD HAVE THEM COME BACK.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD, UM, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP WITH THE OTHER APPLICATION ON, YOU KNOW, LAWRENCE, IS, UM, THE, UH, THE FACT THAT THE SHOPPING CENTER, UM, ACROSS, YOU KNOW, FROM D ON DS FERRY USED TO BE RIVER TOWNS, YOU KNOW, SQUARE.
UM, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, UM, PEDESTRIAN, UH, BRIDGE OVER OVER THE SOL PARKWAY AND NONE OF THEM, THERE'S NO BUS STOPS AT THAT SHOPPING CENTER, SO YOU ONLY HAVE ONE BUS STOP RIGHT NOW ON SOL RIVER ROAD.
AND I'M WONDERING IF WE, AND I, I FEEL THAT IT'S REALLY TOTALLY HAZARDOUS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING ON, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYEES, THEY DON'T HAVE CARS, THEY'RE TAKING THE BUS, AND THEN THEY'RE CROSSING OVER WITH MORE TRAFFIC.
YOU KNOW, I FEEL IT'S GONNA BE MORE DANGEROUS FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
AND I'M WONDERING IF, AS IF YOU GOT THE APPROVAL, IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO, UH, CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS, UM, A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER THE SOMO PARKWAY.
SO PART OF WHAT WE'VE, WE HAVE FOLDED INTO THE PROJECT, AND I THINK THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS FOLDED IN AFTER WE, WE WERE BEFORE YOU LAST, IS WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, A CROSSWALK ACROSS, UH, NINE A AS WELL AS THERE'LL BE BUS STOPS ON EITHER SIDE OF NINE A, UM, AND THERE IS THE, THE TRAILWAY.
SO FOLKS COULD CONNECT AND WALK UP TO THE RIVER TOWNS.
I'M TALKING SUN RIVER PARKWAY BECAUSE THERE'S NO, NO BUS STOP AND THERE'S BASICALLY, UM, BUSES CAN'T STOP THERE.
I'M CALLED, THEY'RE PRETTY FAR REMOVED.
LIKE I CAN UNDERSTAND WHEN LAWRENCE, THIS BEING MORE RELEVANT, BUT THEY, THEY'RE MUCH FURTHER SOUTH.
I'M JUST TRYING TO COME KNOW WITH THE
ANYONE, ANY TAKERS? WE ARE ALSO TO BUILDING THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
THE SUPERVISOR WILL SIGN OFF TODAY.
NO, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS APPLICANT, UM, SO JUST ONE, LAWRENCE HAS COMMITTED TO A SIDEWALK FOR ITS FRONTAGE.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE THAT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS IMPORTANT IN THE AREA.
AND THIS APPLICANT IS COMMITTED TO A SIDEWALK ALONG ITS FRONTAGE, AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TO EXPLORE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NORTHERLY BOUNDARY OF THEIR PROPERTY TO LAWRENCE STREET MM-HMM
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
THERE'S COULD BE, YOU KNOW, COORDINATION WITH THE UTILITIES AND WHATNOT.
BUT, UM, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTION MADE.
SO NOW YOU HAVE A CONNECTION ALL THE WAY THERE.
NOW I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO ENGAGE THE STATE ABOUT ANY BUS ONE EXISTING AND THEN ONE PROPOSED.
I DO AGREE THAT WE, WE NEED TO ENGAGE THE STATE.
IT IS A, IT IS QUITE FAR THAT INTERSECTION AT THE SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY.
UM, WE, WE NEED TO ENGAGE STATE OFFICIALS, MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST WE, FIRST OFF, WE HAVE, WE, WE, WE, WE ALWAYS SEND THIS PROJECT.
WELL, WE SEND ONE LAWRENCE, UM, BUT IT'S A STATE INTERSECTION AND I, I JUST DON'T THINK I, I JUST FEEL, CAN I ASK A, I'M SORRY.
I SWITCHING A LITTLE BIT, BUT BECAUSE BUS STOP IS, SO THE COUNTY HAS AGREED TO PUT IN ANOTHER BUS STOP AND IS THAT BUS STOP REALLY? I MEAN, THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH A TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
SO WE'RE TALKING A SIDEWALK AND BUS STOP, UM, PERHAPS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SO RIVER LOFTS, BUT THEY DO HAVE THAT OTHER PATHWAY THAT THEY CAN GET TO.
PAUL IS CORRECTING ME THAT I MAY HAVE MISSTATED AND THAT THEY, THEY EXIST.
BOTH THE BUS STOPS EXIST CURRENTLY.
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REALLY AM NERVOUS ABOUT IS THE VILLAGE OF LEY IS OVERLY CONGESTED.AND BASICALLY I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH TRAFFIC AND IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE TRUCKS IN THE VILLAGE OF LEY, IT'S JUST GONNA CHANGE TO ME REALLY THE CHARACTER.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I ALMOST, I HAD AN AFRO BEFORE, UH, I MOVED THERE AND I, AND I, I'M, I'M ALL BALL BECAUSE EVERY TIME I'M STUCK IN TRAFFIC, I PULL MORE HAIR OUT,
UM, BUT THE THING IS, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, PE THE V RESIDENTS OF LEY ARE GONNA BE CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE TRUCKS THAT ARE GONNA BE THE ADDITIONAL TRUCKS, THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC DELAYS.
I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT SARAH'S IT DEPENDS ON THE BOOTS.
SO THE ROUTE WE SHOULD, AND WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE ROOTS, UM, PRETTY COMPREHENSIVELY IN OUR MATERIALS AND, AND WE CAN PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
AND WHAT WE'VE ALSO COMMITTED TO IS A CONDITION OF ANY APPROVAL WHERE WE WOULD INCLUDE IN OUR LEASE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE TRUCK ROUTE HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT THE TRUCK DRIVERS HAVE TO ADHERE TO A CERTAIN ROUTE ARE, CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THOSE ARE? ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT PAUL? UH, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE TRUCK ROUTES.
THE, THE TRUCK ROUTES RIGHT NOW AS, AND THEY WERE OUTLINED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL IS, IS TO THE NORTH.
IF TRUCK WAS TO PROCEED TO THE NORTH, THE EXTENT OF THAT IS TO THE 87 RAMP THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE ASHFORD AVENUE INTERCHANGE.
UM, WITH NINE A THERE, UM, TRUCKS ARE ACTUALLY BASED ON NEW YORK STATE REQUIREMENTS, FULL SIZE TRACTOR TRAILERS ARE ACTUALLY NOT PERMITTED TO GO ANY FRUIT THROUGH ALL THE WAY THROUGH PARLEY AND THROUGH THE AREA OF CONCERN.
THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GO SOUTH, UH, TOWARDS HOE ROAD WHERE THE INTERSECTION AND THE, UH, ROUTE, UH, THE INTERCHANGE IS WITH, UM, UH, WITH 87 DOWN THERE.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR TWO PRIMARY TRUCK ROUTES, DEPENDING, UH, IF A TRUCK NEEDS TO GO NORTH ON OR SOUTH ON 87, THERE'S VERY EXPLICIT REQUIREMENTS.
AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS DETAILED IN THE DOT DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
I DO THINK IT OBVI, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS.
OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO UPDATE THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER WITH, UH, SOME OF THESE PIECES OF INFORMATION.
UH, 'CAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
ALL OF THESE ARE VALID CONCERNS, OBVIOUSLY THE TRUCK ROUTES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS USE, WANTING TO KNOW EXPLICITLY WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO.
AND GARRETT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THESE WOULD BE ALL, YOU KNOW, IF, SO IF IT WENT SO FAR, WOULD ALL BE CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL.
WE WOULD HAVE A A, AN EXPLICIT TRUCK ROUTE PLAN, UH, THINGS THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, EXPLICITLY DETAILED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND AS PART OF THE SITE PLANS.
WHAT, WHAT AM I UNDERSTANDING? THE, SO THE, THE, UM, EXIT ON 2 87 WOULD BE BY THE RIDGE HILL COMPLEX AND OFF ON SPRING ROAD AND THEN TO JACKSON AVENUE.
AND THAT WAY THEY DIDN'T WAIT LAST.
IT, IT WOULD PROGRESS SOUTH, UM, BECAUSE JACKSON AVENUE, THE, THE TURNING MOVEMENTS THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD NOT, UH, THE TRACTOR TRAILERS, IT WOULD CONTINUE SOUTH ALONG 87TH, OR EXCUSE ME, ALONG SO RIVER ROAD, AND THEN IT WOULD PICK UP THE, UM, UH, THE, ANY SEVEN RAMPS AT TUCKAHOE ROAD.
THAT'S THE INTERCHANGE THAT IT WOULD OPERATE FROM.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY SOUTH OF RIDGEFIELD.
UM, WHEN, UH, THE, WHERE, WHEN THIS, UH, COMPLEX, UH, THE OFFICE CAMPUS WAS THRIVING, UM, HOW MANY CARS, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WAS GENERATED AT THAT TIME COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, BECAUSE WHEN WE GO TO, SAY THE VILLAGE OF LEY OR HASTINGS OR DOBS AND WE SAY, OH, THERE WERE 200 CARS, UH, 10 YEARS AGO, AND NOW IT'S GONNA BE SAY A HUNDRED CAR, WHATEVER, THAT, THAT WILL MAKE PEOPLE THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
SO DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY.
DIEGO, DO YOU HAVE THAT FIGURE? I, I DO, BUT I DID, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ANSWER THE LAST QUESTION.
I I, I'M SORRY, I I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I CONCLUDED AND GAVE YOU THE ANSWER THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR REGARDING THE ROUTE AND TAHOE ROAD THERE.
WELL, THE TUCKAHOE ROAD ROUTE AND THE OTHER ONE IS ACCESSIBLE ONLY FROM ONE DIRECTION GOING ON, UH, 2 87.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THE HIGHWAY ACCESS, ROAD EXPENSE SOUTH, ALL THE WAY TO TAHOE ROAD, BECAUSE THAT ONE GIVES YOU ACCESS TO THE FULL INTERCHANGE WITH 87.
SO JACKSON AVENUE IS NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE THE TRACTOR TRAILERS, WHEREAS TAHOE ROAD AND SAW MILL ROAD ARE.
YEAH, SO JUST, I JUST WANT, LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE OTHER COUNTS, UM, YES, THERE, THERE IS, IT'S ACTUALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FULLY OCCUPIED OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH AGAIN, THEY COULD,
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THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE THERE, I KNOW THEY'RE VACANT NOW, BUT IF THEY WERE A FULLY FUNCTIONING, UM, OCCUPIED OFFICE BUILDING, THE WAREHOUSE USE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A REDUCTION IN DAILY TRAFFIC AS COMPARED TO WHAT IT IS NOW.UM, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF A REDUCTION OF ABOUT 300 TRIPS.
UM, IT'S ABOUT 300 TRIPS ALTOGETHER IS THE REDUCTION BECAUSE AGAIN, THE OFFICE BUILDING IS A SIGNIFICANT GENERATOR OF TRAFFIC.
UH, YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE COMING TO AND FROM THE OFFICE SPACE MORNING AND EVENING, THE WAREHOUSE, IT IS JUST, IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT GENERATOR BECAUSE OF THE ONE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WORK THERE.
AND THEN THE DELIVERY TRUCKS WITH IT NOT BEING A LAST MILE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY WHERE THAT CHANGEOVER IN THAT WAREHOUSE HAPPENS, IT'S, IT IS A MUCH DIFFERENT TRAFFIC OPERATION.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, FROM THE, THE STARTING GATES, WE KNEW THAT AS A LAST MILE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY, THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THEY ARE SO MUCH MORE, WE'LL PUT THAT COMPARISON CHART TOGETHER.
THIS WAY YOU CAN EXPLICITLY SEE WHAT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING, WHAT THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE WITH THE WAREHOUSE USE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
BUT WE'LL ALSO GIVE YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT LAST MILE, UH, UM, UH, FACILITY AS WELL, WHICH IS, AGAIN, NOT BEING PROPOSED HERE, BUT JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARING NUMBER.
I GUESS I AM MORE CONCERNED, I MEAN, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE VILLAGE OF LEY WILL NOT BE SO DIRECTLY IMPACTED.
HOWEVER, LAWRENCE STREET WILL, AND THAT'S A MAJOR INTERSECTION THAT IS VERY TROUBLESOME TO BEGIN WITH.
PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY GOING THE WRONG WAY ON DOWN THE, THE ROAD MAKING TURNS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I WOULD ASK THAT, UM, THAT IF THERE, IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THIS, THAT THE TRUCK'S DELIVERIES NOT BE DURING RUSH HOUR BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT IS SO BAD.
BUT LET ME ASK A FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE THE LOFTS COULD BE IMPACTED, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND THE TIMING OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
AND SOMETIMES WITH TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, THEY'RE DRIVING, UH, EARLY, VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING, COULD BE LIKE FIVE O'CLOCK, YOU KNOW, WAKING PEOPLE UP.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE WOULD BE ANY, UM, UM, CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF, UH, THE TIME THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, LEAVE AND, YOU KNOW, AND GO TO THE, THEY SAW MILL RIVER L YEAH, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THIS IS SO CLOSE TO THE LOFTS, AND I'M THINKING YOU HAVE ALL THESE APARTMENTS THERE AND PEOPLE MAY START COMPLAINING THAT, OH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WAKING ME UP AT FOUR IN THE MORNING OR WHATEVER.
SO TWO THINGS ON THAT ONE, UM, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR, YOUR QUESTION ON THE, THE LAWRENCE STREET INTERSECTION.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING PROPORTIONALLY VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC TO THAT INTERSECTION WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE VOLUME OF, OF TRAFFIC THERE NOW.
AND WHAT WE WOULD BE ADDING, WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO, AND THIS WAS VETTED WITH WITH JOHN CANNING, UM, AT KIMLEY HOR, IS WE'RE GONNA CONTRIBUTE OUR FAIR SHARE TOWARDS IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IF AND WHEN IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE TO THAT INTERSECTION, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL LANES OR, OR LIGHTING CHANGE, YOU KNOW, SIGNAL CHANGES, WE'RE GONNA CONTRIBUTE OUR FAIR SHARE TOWARDS FINANCIAL AID.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S EVEN FEASIBLE.
SO, UM, THE TRUCKS WILL NOT GO TO SAWMILL RIVER.
I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC TRAVELING DOWN NINE A AND BACK.
THE BACKUP ON NINE A TURNING ONTO ABSENT ONTO LAWRENCE, ABSENT THIS TRAFFIC TURNING ONTO LAWRENCE STREET IS PROBLEMATIC.
THE BACKUP ON NINE A AND THE, THE FLAGRANT WAY IN WHICH PEOPLE IGNORE TRAFFIC LAWS, EVEN ON NINE A, NOT JUST LAWRENCE, AND IT'S COMPOUNDED BY MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
SO I'M, I'M JUST GIVING THAT PERSPECTIVE SO THAT IF THERE IS SOME WAY TO RESTRICT TRUCK TRAFFIC DURING RUSH HOUR, THAT WOULDN'T COMPOUND, UH, A SAFETY HA UH, SOMETHING THAT'S A SAFETY HAZARD TO BEGIN WITH.
BUT THE LOFTS IS, IS SOUTH OF LAWRENCE STREET, SO ON THE L FOR THE LOFTS, THAT ANOTHER POINT ON THE LOFTS, UM, THE REVISED PLAN ACTUALLY ADDRESSES SOON.
YEAH, I FEEL LIKE WE, WE NEED TO FLIP TO THAT NOW.
SO HERE'S THE, THE BIG REVEAL,
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WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,UM, SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TO THE RIGHT, SO THAT'S, UH, SOUTH IS TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THAT GREEN AREA THAT IS THE AREA, ESPECIALLY IN THE, THE FRONT ALONG SAWMILL RIVER ROAD THAT WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED THE, THE BUILDING TO EXTEND INTO, UM, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE CEMETERY THAT HAS BEEN PULLED BACK.
UH, SO IT'S A MUCH SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF A BUILDING NOW, AND WE CAN GO INTO THE SPECIFICS ON THAT.
BUT REGARDING THE QUESTION ABOUT THE LOFTS, SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE, WE, WE TOOK CARE TO, TO, TO REVISE AS PART OF THIS PLAN IS THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, UM, WITH THE DRIVEWAYS.
SO SOME OF THE NOISE, UH, THAT, THAT YOU RAISED SUPERVISOR FINER WOULD BE RELATED TO THE TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF THE DRIVEWAYS, ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE'S A SLOPE GOING UP.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS YOU'LL SEE, AND, AND DIEGO AND PAUL MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE
AND WHAT THAT FUNCTIONS AS IS A TURNAROUND FOR TRUCKS.
SO THE TRUCKS WOULD ONLY ACCESS THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY, THE, THE DRIVEWAY ON THE LEFT, THERE WOULD BE NO TRUCK TRAFFIC AT THE DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH.
AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS THAT THE LOFTS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY.
SO WE SPECIFICALLY ELIMINATED THE TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM THAT SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY WITH THE LOFTS IN MIND TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THOSE NOISE IMPACTS, UH, WERE, WERE ELIMINATED FOR THEM.
YOU'RE PRESUMING THE ROADS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE, SO THERE IS NO NOISE COMING FROM THE TRUCKS DRIVING ON REDDED ROADS.
RIGHT? I MEAN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THAT CHANGING.
UM, THE FACT THAT THERE'S, THERE'S TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT, THAT HAPPENS ALONG NINE A, WHAT'S TODAY? WHAT'S THE RADIUS OF THAT TURNAROUND? I WILL TURN TO PAUL OR DIEGO TO, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
THE RADIUS NEEDED FOR BASICALLY A TRACTOR TRAILER, IT'S 110 FEET.
IS THAT ION FOR A TRACTOR TRAILER TO TURN AROUND? YEAH, THAT'S THE, THAT'S TYPICAL TRACTOR.
WHAT, WHAT LENGTH TRACTOR JOE? UM, WB 67 I THINK IS THE, IS 67.
BUT WB 67 IS THE FULL SIZE TRACTOR TRAILER.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE, UH, THE 53 FOOT TRAILERS BEHIND THAT.
THOSE ARE THE, THE, THE LARGEST TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT ARE PERMITTED, UH, ON THE ROADWAY WITH.
SO IT'S DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, W 60 TWOS ARE MORE COMMON.
YOU'LL SEE THOSE WITH THE 48 FOOT TRAILERS.
BUT AGAIN, JUST FOR DESIGN PURPOSES, WE LOOK AT THE LARGEST TRACTOR TRAILER AND THAT'S ALL, ALL THE TURNING MOVEMENTS, EVEN THE, THE LANES COMING IN AND OUT OFF OF SOME ROAD, ALL OF THEM ARE DESIGNED, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE TURNING RADIANCES OF THE LARGEST TRUCKS.
AND, AND WHEN YOU, IN YOUR, YOUR OUTREACH TO THE NEW YORK STATE, DOT, YOU HAD TO PROVIDE WEIGHTS THAT WILL BE ON THEIR ROADWAY WEIGHTS OF THOSE LARGEST TRUCKS.
IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, IT IS, IT'S A STANDARD MAXIMUM WEIGHT, STANDARD MAXIMUM WEIGHT OF THE WB 67 IS 80,000 POUNDS.
THAT'S THE, AGAIN, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM WEIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY, A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE THE WEIGHT STATIONS, THEY GET PULLED OVER AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GO ON AND THEY CAN'T EXCEED CERTAIN WEIGHT LIMITS, OTHERWISE THEY GET FINED IN TICKETS.
BUT 80,000 POUNDS IS, IS WHAT THE DESIGN CRITERIA IS FOR.
THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA FOR THE TRUCKS.
BUT IS IT THE CRITERIA FOR THE ROADWAY? THAT'S WHAT I'M OH, AS FAR, YEAH.
THE ROADWAYS ARE DESIGNED FOR THAT.
WEAR AND TEAR AND USAGE OF IT, AND THAT ALL OF THE ROADWAYS ON SITE WOULD BE A DESIGN TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND THE ROADWAYS ARE, IT IS JUST, AGAIN, NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR AND MAINTENANCE IS ANOTHER, IT, IT IS A BIG DISCUSSION, RIGHT.
HOW OFTEN DOES SOME WORKER ROAD NEED TO BE MAINTAINED AND REPAIRED AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S DUE FOR PAVING.
NOW IT MIGHT BE, UH, UH, CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAPPEN WITH THE DOT AS WELL.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THE ONUS IS NOT ON YOU THERE.
THE ONUS IS ON YOUR ESTATE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE BECAUSE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A CONCERN.
AND, AND JUST SPEAKING OF THAT, JUST TO TOUCH ON LAUREN STREET, YOU RAISED, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD POINT AND A GOOD QUESTION THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT WAS RAISED AND THAT WAS MADE, UM, YOU KNOW, IS FAIR AND PROPORTIONATE CONTRIBUTION TO FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON LAWRENCE STREET INTERSECTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING WHAT ULTIMATELY, OH, WE MAY, I HIT MUTE.
WELL, UM, WHILE HE'S FIGURING OUT HIS TECHNICAL ISSUES, I, WE WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME.
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AND THERE'S A COUPLE, UM, OTHER POINTS THAT, THAT WE DO WANNA MAKE.AND PAUL, DO YOU MIND GOING TO THE NEXT ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THIS SLIDE JUST GIVES A, A LITTLE BIT OF A, A VISUAL, UM, IN TERMS OF THE CHANGE FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS VERSUS THE REVISED PLAN.
SO YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM THAT THE RED REPRESENTS WHAT WE ORIGINALLY CAME IN WITH, UH, IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND THE ADDITIONAL PARKING AND, AND DRIVE AISLES ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
SO ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN PULLED IN, UM, TO, TO ELIMINATE, UM, REALLY A LOT OF DISTURBANCE AREA, A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE.
AND IF WE FLIP TO THE, TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT THIS SHOWS IS SOME OF THE, UM, THE METRICS ON THE REDUCTIONS THAT WE SEE AS A RESULT OF THE REVISED PLAN.
SO THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT ITSELF IS, UH, ABOUT 22%, UH, REDUCED.
WE'VE GOT A LITTLE OVER THREE AND A HALF ACRES, LESS OF LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE.
IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE IS SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED.
THE FRONT YARD SETBACK, WE WERE ABLE TO PUSH THE BUILDING FURTHER BACK.
UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOFTS ACROSS THE STREET AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, TRAVELERS UP AND DOWN NINE A, THAT BUILDING WILL, WILL BE PUSHED BACK AND THAT'LL GIVE SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
THE, SINCE THE, UH, THE LOFTS IS GONNA BE DEFINITELY IMPACTED, UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS THAT COULD BE OFFERED TO THEM, YOU KNOW, TO REDUCE SOME OF THE IMPACTS ON THAT POTENTIALLY? I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING OF THAT, OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD MEET WITH, INSTEAD OF ONLY THE VILLAGES, MAYBE YOU SHOULD MEET WITH THE LOFTS, RESIDENTS OF THE LOFTS.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SET UP LIKE A MEETING BECAUSE I THINK THEY, THAT THAT REALLY IS THE COMPLEX THAT MOST IMPACT THINK SHOULD DID.
WE HAVE HAD OUTREACH WITH THE, THE OWNER.
SO THERE'S, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RENTAL APARTMENTS RENTAL.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE, THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL AS THE OWNER'S ATTORNEY.
UM, WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH THEM DURING THE PLANNING BOARD PROCESS.
UM, THEY, THEY EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, VISUAL CONCERNS.
THEY EXPRESSED NOISE CONCERNS, OF COURSE.
UM, AND TOWARDS THE END OF THE PLANNING BOARD PROCESS, WHEN WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA BE MAKING SOME REVISIONS, WE KIND OF SAID, SIT TIGHT.
WE HAVE SOME REVISIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.
AND, AND WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO, TO DISCUSS THOSE.
DID YOU ALSO MAYBE SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH, UH, SOME OF THE RENTERS? MOST OF THE, A LOT OF THE RENTERS ARE LONG TERM RENTERS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A SHORT TERM, UM, YOU KNOW, GROUP AND I SORT OF FEEL THIS WAY.
UH, WE COULD HEAR FROM, HEAR FROM THEM AND THEY ALSO SHOULD REALIZE THAT, UM, IF WE SAY NO TO THIS, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY AS WELL THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LET'S ASSUME THAT THIS IS REJECTED.
WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS SO PEOPLE WOULD, SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THAT.
SO WHAT, SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE IMPACTS COULD BE WORSE FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE LOFTS? YEAH, THE GI DISTRICT IS THE MOST FLEXIBLE DISTRICT IN TERMS OF USES.
UM, GENERALLY ACCEPTED NUISANCE USES ANY USE IS PERMISSIBLE.
UM, THAT CAN BE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC DEPENDENT, UM, THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE.
JUST OF NOTE, THE LIMITED DISTURBANCE, 24 ACRES, A GOOD MAJORITY OF THAT IS PREVIOUSLY DISTURBED LAND.
SO IT'S NOT AS IF, UM, IT'S 24 ACRES OF DISTURBANCE INTO WOODED AREAS.
AND ALSO THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE PRESENT DEVELOPMENT HAS LITTLE TO NO STORAGE ON SITE FOR STORMWATER.
THEIR PROPOSAL, IT WILL HAVE MODERN AND UPTODATE 25 YEAR STORM MITIGATION.
SO THAT THAT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S SIGNIFICANT IN AN AREA THAT'S PRONE TO FLOODING.
WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A HUNDRED YEAR THAN 25 YEAR STORM, UM, BECAUSE YOU, IT IS UPHILL THERE TO SOME, RIGHT.
UM, I, I'D ALSO LIKE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REMOVING A GOOD NUMBER OF TREES.
WHERE ARE THOSE TREES AND WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING REPLACING A LIKE, NUMBER OF TREES THAT WOULD HELP? YES.
DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT, PAUL? YEAH, WE, WE ARE TAKING DOWN SOME LESS TREES THAN THE, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION, BUT, UM, I'LL PUT THIS, THIS ONE ON HERE JUST SO WE HAVE A PLAN TO LOOK AT.
THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ARE LOCATED, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY SINCE WE HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE, THE ROOM BACK THERE FOR THE TRAILERS AND THE RETAINING WALL MM-HMM
SO, UM, ALL OF THE TREES WILL, WILL REMAIN IN THE 9.11 ACRE PARCEL.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, STEEP SLOPES SAVINGS IS AS WELL AS A TREE AND DISTURBANCE AREA.
THERE IS SOME TREE REMOVAL, UH, UP TOP AS WELL FOR THAT EXPANSION OF THE TRAILER PARKING UP THERE.
UM, BUT WE, WE ARE PROPOSING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
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OF PROPOSED TREES, ESPECIALLY IN THE FRONTAGE.UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BASICALLY TOOK EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF THE FRONT TO HELP, UH, SCREEN IT AND TO HELP MEET THE, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE REPLACEMENT THAT MEETS YOUR TOWN CODE, WHICH IS, UH, A PRETTY THOROUGH, UH, TREE REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT.
SO WE ARE, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD FLOODING ISSUES AND, AND THE ENTIRE TOWN PRACTICALLY, AND 25, UH, YEAR FLOOD MITIGATION, THAT'S NOT REALLY A LOT.
YOU KNOW, COULD WE BE PUSHING FOR SOMETHING MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN 25 YEAR STORMS? 'CAUSE THE DRAINAGE, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE DRAINAGE IN THE TOWN, IT'S NOT, IT HASN'T BEEN SUFFICIENT PRACTICALLY ANYWHERE.
THE SAWMILL RIVER LOSS ARE RIGHT BY SWAMP LAND, BASICALLY.
AND SO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT CONTRIBUTE IF WE, WHEN WE GET, WHEN, NOT IF MM-HMM
WE GET OUR A HUNDRED YEAR AND 500 YEAR STORMS. YEAH.
YOU KNOW, NOT WITH NO EXPECTATION.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FLOODING A LOT LATELY, BUT WITH NO GREAT EXPECTATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE FLOODING,
BUT, UM, BUT WHATEVER CAN BE DONE TO AMELIORATE AND GIVE THE, THOSE PEOPLE A SENSE OF SECURITY THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THERE WOES WILL NOT BE ADDED TO.
I MEAN, AS, AS GARRETT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY THERE'S, THERE'S LITTLE TO NO STORMWATER, UM, MANAGEMENT ON SITE CURRENTLY.
SO, SO ANYTHING THAT WE DO WILL IMP WILL YEAH.
PRESUMABLY RESULT IN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE REMAINING IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE EXISTING DEVELOPED FOOTPRINT.
YOU KNOW, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY COMPLY WITH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE NEW YORK STATE DEC REQUIRES AND YOUR CODE REQUIRES, WELL, WHAT DEC REQUIRES, WHAT THE REALITY IS GOING FORWARD ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO THINK FORWARD.
AND YEAH, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, UM, BEYOND WHAT THE, THE CODE REQUIRES BOTH DEC AND YOUR, YOUR OWN CODE.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S FEASIBLE AGREE TO DO.
THAT'D BE HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT THE LOFTS DID AND DO NO LESS THAN WHAT THEY DID AS FAR AS THE SNOW ONE.
WE, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IN THE TREES IS, SO THE, IN TERMS OF NUMBERS, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE 270 REGULATED TREES AND WE'RE PRO PROPOSING TO ADD 270 TREES TO THE SITE.
SO IT'S REALLY A, A NET, UM, YOU KNOW, NO NET CHANGE.
THOSE TREES HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HEFT THAN THAT
THAT WAS THE OTHER POINT I WAS GONNA MAKE.
SO SINCE WE'VE LAST BEEN BEFORE YOU AS PART OF THE PLANNING BOARD PROCESS, WE DID FOLD INTO THE PLAN, UM, AN INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF THE PLANTING MATERIAL AT THE TIME IT'S PLANTED.
UM, AND WE'VE ALSO INCORPORATED FASTER GROWING SPECIES.
UM, SO THAT THAT WILL HELP AS WELL THE FASTER GROWING SPECIES ARE NATIVE.
THEY ALL MEAN, I THINK THEY ALL HAVE TO BE NATIVE.
AARON, AARON WILL, WILL PUT HIS EYES ON IT.
YOU KNOW, THE, IF YOU JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.
WE WERE WAY OVER ON THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE CO2 AND THE STORM WATER SEQUESTERED, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT ARE REQUIRED.
EIGHT AND A BET ANY ABSOLUTELY.
I'M CONFIDENT WE ARE ABOVE, UM, WELL ABOVE.
AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO 120 SHRUBS AND 1300 PERENNIALS AND GRASSES
ALONG THE ROADWAY, I COULD ASK, IF I COULD ASK, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHEN, UM, THE NEIGHBOR WOULD WANT TO ENGAGE THE TOWN? UH, 'CAUSE THAT NINE ACRE PARCEL IS VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO THIS WHOLE, UM, AREA.
AND IF IT WERE OBTAINED BY THE CEMETERY IN, IN, IN, IN CONTINUING IN OPEN SPACE, LET'S SAY, I MEAN, THAT'S A BEST CASE SCENARIO IN TERMS OF THINGS WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE.
UM, IF SO, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHETHER THEY INTEND TO ENGAGE WITH THE TOWN SO THAT THE TOWN CAN WORK WITH THEM ON WHATEVER GOALS THEY WOULD HAVE? I PERSONALLY DO NOT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT BACK TO THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ASK THE FOLKS AT BIOMED THAT ARE IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO INTEND TO OKAY.
I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE PRETTY SOON.
UM, WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY THEY APPROACHED US WITH A CONCERN ABOUT CREATING A BUFFER.
SO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, A GREAT OUTCOME.
I KNOW THAT THEY, THEY WILL BE IN TOUCH SOON, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE KEY POINT THAT WE'RE HERE MAKING TONIGHT IS THAT WE'VE REDUCED THE PROJECT BY 22% AND WE WILL NOT CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, AN EXPANSION OF THE WAREHOUSE THROUGH LOT TWO.
SO THAT'S, I WOULD EXPECT SINCE THERE'S SUCH, UM, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE PLAN, THAT THEIR EXPECTATION IS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD WITH THIS NEW PLAN AND, UM, HAVE THEM REVIEW IT.
BECAUSE THE ONE THAT THEY GAVE US, OBVIOUSLY THEY WEREN'T VERY FAVORABLE TO,
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BUT THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD THINKS ABOUT THIS REVISED PLAN.
YEAH, WE COULD, I, I'M GLAD YOU RAISED THAT.
SO, I MEAN, OUR, HONESTLY, OUR EXPECTATION WAS TO HOPEFULLY MOVE FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC HEARING STAGE WITH, WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, AND THE REASON WHY WE HAD THAT, THAT THOUGHT AND THAT EXPECTATION WAS BECAUSE THIS PLAN, PARTICULAR PLAN WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY WITH THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS IN MIND AND WAS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND, AND, AND COMPLY WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, WELL THAT MAY BE SO, BUT WOULDN'T YOU WANT THEM TO SEE THEY SHOULD GO, YOU KNOW, REVISIT IT SO THAT THEY, TO REVISIT JUST TO MAKE SURE TO PUT THE, UH, PUT CLOSURE ON IT.
I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR BOARD TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO RE-REFER US BACK.
JUST TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF, OF TIMEFRAME, BUT RESPECTFUL OF, OF, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD'S DESIRE TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING BOARD ON THE REVISED PLAN.
CAN I ASK FOR A MEMORY REFRESHER? SURE.
SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT, UM, WHY YOU'VE GONE TO A WAREHOUSE CONCEPT AS OPPOSED TO A, LIKE FACILITY, UM, AS WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE? YES.
SO, UM, THAT IS A PRODUCT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, MARKET STUDIES BY BIOMED, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HIGHEST AND BEST USE IN TODAY'S MARKET.
UM, AND I'M GOING THROUGH MY PAPERS BECAUSE I HAD A SLIDE HERE FROM A PRIOR PRESENTATION THAT KIND OF GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, THE HISTORY OF THE SITE.
UM, SO AORTA, WHICH WAS OUR, THE BIOMEDS, UH, MOST RECENT TENANT VACATED IN 2022.
UM, THE BIOMEDS MARKETING EFFORTS TO TRY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REOCCUPY THAT SPACE STARTED FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING PRIOR TO A COURT OF VACATING TO HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMEBODY LINED UP WHEN THEY DID VACATE.
UM, BUT THOSE ATTEMPTS TO RELEASE THE SPACE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL DESPITE MANY, MANY, MANY DOLLARS AND HOURS
AND SAL MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE FOR LIFE SCIENCE.
I MEAN, WE, EVEN PRIOR TO A QUARTER OF FULLY VACATING THE CAMPUS, WE DID HAVE SOME VACANCY AT A FEW OF THE BUILDINGS.
I MEAN, THAT IS, WE ARE LIFE SCIENCE, LIFE SCIENCE, REAL ESTATE COMPANY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE'S JUST NO DEMAND.
YOU KNOW, WE PREVIOUSLY OWNED THE REGENERON CAMPUS.
WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FEEL FOR THE BUSINESS.
UM, AND THE BUILDINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, QUITE OUTDATED.
AND I THINK IT'S, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A, A GUT REHAB IF THEY WERE TO BE OCCUPIED BY A, UM, A LAB OF SOME SORTS OR EVEN A, A GROUP OF SMALLER LABS THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION.
UM, BUT THE ISSUE IS REALLY JUST THAT THERE'S NO DEMAND.
SO, UM, IS, IS IT A GREENFIELD, A BROWNFIELD SITE? EXCUSE ME, WISH WAS GREENFIELD? NO, NO, NO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT LED US TO, TO THE WAREHOUSE.
UM, THIS IS ALSO, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BIOMED'S LAST REMAINING ASSET IN NEW YORK.
UM, THE COMPANY HAS REALLY, UH, FOCUSED ON, RIGHT.
THE BOSTON MARKET, COLORADO AND, AND CALIFORNIA FROM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
WHAT'S THAT? I'M OFFENDED NOW.
I JUST THOUGHT OF ANOTHER IDEA.
UM, UM, THE, I SEE THERE'S SOME GREEN SPACE AND GARRETT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO THE CEMETERY OR WHATEVER.
IS THERE ANY GREEN SPACE THAT COULD BE DONATED, SAY TO THE TOWN, UM, FOR LET'S SAY, UH, CRICKET FIELD OR A SOCCER FIELD OR ANYTHING STEEP SLOPE, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEN THE COMMUNITY COULD ACTUALLY GET SOME SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UNIT KNOW BENEFIT.
SO I THINK AS, AS EILEEN MENTIONED, THE SLOPES IS, IS GOING TO BE, UM, A PRIMARY ISSUE THERE.
UM, THAT LOT IS WHERE THE, THE MOST, THE, THE STEEPEST SLOPES ARE, UM, IN THAT, THAT CORNER, UM, THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE THERE.
UM, SO I, YOU COULD DO A ESCAPE THE SKI SKI, YEAH.
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NOT THAT, THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD.IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REGRADED AND EVERYTHING.
YEAH, NO, I'M SAYING IS THERE ANY YEAH, THEY'RE, THE REASON THEY'RE BUILDING THE RETAINING WALLS IS THEY WANT TO FLATTEN OUT THE SITE.
ANY REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARCEL TO HAVE A PARK, YOU'D WANT TO AS CLOSE TO THE NINE A AS POSSIBLE.
AND IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION COST TO THE TOWN.
UNLESS THAT SAY THREE ACRE DONATION CAME WITH, UH, $5 MILLION, UM, THE TOWN WOULD BE SITTING ON THAT LAND FOREVER, I WOULD IMAGINE.
I TRIED, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE CEMETERY.
UM, 'CAUSE WE, OUR CODE DOESN'T ALLOW CEMETERIES TO EXPAND.
DO THEY WANT TO EXPAND IT FOR CEMETERY USE? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THE CEMETERY OR JUST KEEP IT AS A, A, A BUFFER AREA, UM, TO HAVE OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE END USER AT OUR SITE AND, AND THEIR EXISTING CEMETERY.
I I FRANKLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS, BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT THEY WILL ENGAGE WITH THE TOWN SOON TO DISCUSS.
AND YOUR PROJECT ISN'T DEPENDENT ON THEM BUYING THAT PIECE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, WELL WE HAVE ELIMINATED THAT, THAT PARCEL, UM, WITH THE INTENT OF CONVEYING IT TO THE CEMETERY.
'CAUSE THEY, THEY APPROACHED US EARLY ON AND, AND EXPRESSED INTEREST IN ACQUIRING ALL OR A PORTION OF, OF OUR SITE.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING WITH THEM.
THAT'S MY QUESTION IS, IS IF THERE'S A FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENT DUE TO THAT, IS YOUR PROJECT DEPENDENT ON YOU RECEIVING THAT REVENUE FOR NO.
OR BASICALLY CONVEYING THE PROPERTY? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT.
WE'VE, WE'VE DECIDED, WE'VE, WE DISCUSSED IT CERTAINLY INTERNALLY.
SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE A DEAL THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SET IN STONE WITH THE CEMETERY BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THIS OPTION AND WE DECIDED NO, UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SORT OF A POSITIVE IN THAT THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH A BUFFER AND HAVING AN ADEQUATE BUFFER.
UM, THE PLANNING BOARD CERTAINLY EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND I THINK, THINK WE'VE REDUCED IT.
THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T GIVE US A NUMBER, BUT I THINK WE'VE REDUCED IT BEYOND WHAT THEY WOULD'VE APPRECIATED.
UM, I DUNNO IF GARRETT AGREES WITH THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE 22% REDUCTION, I THINK IT'S BEEN A WIN-WIN.
SO WE REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING BOARD'S COMMENTS.
AND THE FACT THAT THE CEMETERY IS INTERESTED IN THE BUFFER IS, IS SORT OF A BONUS.
SO I HAVEN'T THOUGHT THIS OUT BECAUSE I'M JUST LEARNING ABOUT IT RECENTLY, BUT WHAT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, IF THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN A BUFFER, BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PARCEL, POTENTIALLY.
BUT THEY WOULD NEED SOME SORT OF EASEMENT.
THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE THING.
GIVE THAT, HOW THAT RUN FOR THEIR MONEY.
YEAH, I WOULDN'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE AGREED TO SELL THEM THE PARCEL AS IS AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I WOULD LEAVE IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE BOARD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM ONCE THEY'RE PREPARED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO I THINK, UM, MAYBE NOT QUITE IN THE ORDER THAT WE INTENDED, BUT I THINK WE HAVE HIT
NO, I, I, I, WE CALL THIS A HOT BENCH
IT'S, IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR US AS WE, YOU KNOW, FINE TUNE THINGS AND TRY TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
YOU GOT AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR MINUTES IN BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY
YOU WANNA SET THE STAGE ALONG WAY? YES.
WELL, YOU GOTTA HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR ABOUT THINGS.
RIGHT?
UM, AND, UM, I GUESS NEXT STEPS BE WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON A FORMAL SUBMISSION.
WE'LL ROUTE THAT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, MAKE SURE AGAIN, THERE'S NO VARIANCES.
UM, HAVE ENGINEERING REVIEW LEGAL, WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE LOCAL AGENCIES AND THEN, UM, YEAH, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU TO REROUTE THAT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND, AND REALLY GET THIS PROCESS.
AND WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA REACH OUT TO THE VILLAGES, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE THEM A SIMILAR PRESENTATION? UM, I THINK WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THEM SOON.
UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESENTED THIS PLAN TO YOU FIRST OUT, OUT OF RESPECT FOR, FOR YOUR BOARD AND AS BEING THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY.
BUT HAVING BEEN HERE TONIGHT, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN THE, IN THE COMING WEEKS, WELL, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM.
WELL, AS FOR THIS REENGAGE WITH THEM SUGGESTION, REACHING OUT TO THE RESIDENTS OF SAAMA RIVER LOFT RATHER THAN JUST THE MANAGEMENT.
UM, YES, WE, WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, THE, THE OWNER, UM, OF THE SITE.
BUT, BUT WE'LL EXPRESS AN INTEREST TO THE OWNER THAT WE MEET WITH THE, THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.
WE HAD BEEN, UM, IN CONTACT WITH THE, THE MANAGER, THE PROPERTY MANAGER AS WELL, UM, WHO DIRECTED US TO THE OWNER.
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WE WILL REENGAGE WITH THE LOFTS AS WELL AS WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE A STAKEHOLDER IN THE, THE PROJECT BEING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.SO, UH, SINCE THE GROUP HOME WITHDREW, WITHDREW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA.
DO YOU WANT YEAH, I WOULD ANNOUNCE THAT TO THE PUBLIC.
SO I GOT A, BEFORE YOU DO, DYLAN, YOU CAN THANK US LATER FOR SENDING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
YEAH, SO I BASICALLY RECEIVED A EMAIL AND I SPOKE TO THE OWNERS OF, UH, I MEAN THE, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE AGENCY THAT WANTS TO PUT A GROUP HOME ON, UM, SOUTH ROAD THREE GROUP HOMES.
AND THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE WITHDRAWING, UM, EACH OF THEM, UM, EACH OF THE APPLICATIONS.
LET ME JUST SEE IF I HAVE THE LETTER.
EACH OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UH, LEARNING MORE, MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND BEING, WELL, THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, THESE THREE APPLICATIONS.
LEMME JUST SEE WHERE IF I COULD FIND IT.
UM, IS THIS THE EMAIL FROM THIS AFTERNOON? YEAH.
DO YOU HAVE I I COULD READ IT, YES.
UM, THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH US AND EXPRESSING YOUR FEEDBACK.
AS WE HAVE HAD TIME TO DISCUSS THIS INTERNALLY, WE HAVE COME TO AGREEMENT THAT AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO WITHDRAW THE PATAVAN NOTICES FOR THE PROPOSED HOMES.
THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP.
THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO CONDUCT MORE OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE TOWN BOARD TO BUILD A STRONG WORKING RELATIONSHIP IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR GREENBURG RESIDENTS AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE SUPPORT.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONNECTING WITH YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE HERE.
I, I ALSO, UM, HAD A SUGGESTION, UH, RELATING TO THE DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED POPULATION.
WE'RE RIGHT NOW CONSIDERING THE KNOWLES APPLICATION, IT'S AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY.
AND MY FAILING, AND I'VE SUGGESTED THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, PROBABLY LIKE THE PAST FIVE YEARS, A BUNCH OF TIMES, I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD REQUIRE, UM, PROPOSED, UH, INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES OR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, UM, TO HIRE, UM, DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED, UM, INDIVIDUALS AND TO CREATE HOUSING AT LEAST ONE OR TWO UNITS OF HOUSING, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED, UM, EMPLOYEES WHO HAD WORKED THERE.
AND THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S SUCH A FANTASTIC IDEA, UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF PE UM, YOUNG PEOPLE WITH DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED, THEY REALLY LOVE TO WORK AND THEY REALLY APPRECIATE LIKE EVERY SECOND.
AND THEY LOVE WORKING WITH SENIORS IN JOBS AND THEY'RE REALLY GREAT WITH SENIORS.
SO THIS WOULD BE A REAL BIG PLUS FOR THE SENIOR PO FOR THE SENIORS AND FOR THE INDEPENDENT, UH, FACILITY.
AND I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD, IF, UH, THE BOARD PROCEEDS AND APPROVES THE KNOWS, UM, THAT WE SHOULD REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO, UM, UH, UNITS THAT WOULD BE, UM, AVAILABLE, UM, TO, UM, A DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED EMPLOYEE.
UM, IT ALSO WOULD PROVIDE, UM, SOME LEVEL OF, UM, COMFORT TO, UM, OLDER PARENTS WHO ARE CONCERNED WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THEIR, UM, CHILDREN WHEN THEY'RE NO LONGER ABLE TO CARE FOR THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE KNOWLES IS A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
UM, SO THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING IN TAXES AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CHARGING A LOT OF MONEY THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD.
AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT THIS IS A WAY, UM, IF THEY DO GET APPROVALS, THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GIVE BACK SOMETHING.
ROCHELLE BERG, YOU, I, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO ROCHELLE ABOUT THIS FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? SHE MADE A PROPOSAL.
AND, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS LIKE SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO INTERJECT.
UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CODIFY IN SOME WAY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TELL THE KNOWLES AT THIS POINT IN THE, IN THE PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD ARE REQUIRED TO DO THAT, OR I, WE CAN'T ANSWER TO THAT.
BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD BUILD IN FOR THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES, I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.
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IS NOT VERY, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY MAYBE FOURUM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY WORKING THERE, UM, THEN IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE BUILDING HOUSING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FREE HOUSING, WHATEVER IT IS, OR LOW, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY TO HOUSE EMPLOYEES.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M ALSO WONDERING IF DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS, BECAUSE IT'S STILL GONNA TAKE TIME, UM, IF WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, REACH OUT TO THE KNOWLES, UM, AS A BOARD AND SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE, UH, THEM TO VOLUNTEER, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T DO IT AS A REQUIREMENT TO VOLUNTARILY, UH, DO, BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULD PUT ANY ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY OR INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY ON THE MAP, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY, ALL OF THEM SHOULD DO.
AND THE FIRST ONE THAT DOES THIS, UM, IS GONNA BE SUCH A MAJOR ASSET, YOU KNOW, SO, WELL I THINK THAT THAT, THAT JOY HAS A, A GOOD POINT.
AND IT'S, AND I GUESS MY POINT AKIN TO THAT WAS I BELIEVE THAT ROCHELLE HAD DEVELOPED A MORE ELABOR DETAILED PLAN.
SO MAYBE IT'S WORTH, OH, I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO HER.
AND, AND MAYBE, AND, AND THAT IT WOULD BE MORE UNIVERSAL RATHER THAN APPLYING AS JOYCE SAID TO THE, JUST TO THE KNOLLS.
NO, I'M SAYING SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE, WE'RE NOT GETTING A MILLION OTHER ASSISTED LIVING OR, OR, UH, INDEPENDENT LIVING UNIT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE THE KNOLLS, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.
THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY COULDN'T USE, YOU KNOW, ADJUST EXISTING FACILITIES.
AND I'VE WRITTEN TO THEM OVER THE YEARS MANY TIMES AND I'VE GOTTEN LIKE NOWHERE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL GIVE UP.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
FINISH DISCUSSING FINANCIAL OR EMPLOYMENT HISTORY OF PARTICULAR PER PERSONS MATTERS LEADING TO THE EMPLOYMENT, EMPLOYMENT PROMOTION OF PARTICULAR PERSONS PROPOSED PENDING AND CURRENT LITIGATION.