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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ]

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OH, HI. WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD. UH, MY SESSION.

MICROPHONE.. WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION. TODAY IS, UH, OCTOBER 20TH. AND, UM, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO GO OVER THE BUDGET AND WE'RE HEARING A BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, UM, FROM VARIOUS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENTS. UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE START, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF, UH, GREENBERG, WHO ARE PART OF THE UKRAINIAN COMMITTEE, THEY ASKED IF WE COULD HAVE A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY, A TOWN HALL, LIKE WE DID BEFORE TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE. AND I'M WONDERING IF, UH, THE BOARD WOULD AUTHORIZE THAT. I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.

OKAY, GREAT. SO I WILL LET THEM KNOW THE GOOD NEWS. SHOULD WE TRY DOING IT AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING? FRANCES. MICROPHONE. WHAT DO.

OKAY. AND, UH, THEY ALSO DO. WE ALSO WANT TO DO, UM. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FLAG. EVERY OTHER ON EAST, YOU KNOW, TEN FLAGS ON EAST. NO, I'M JUST ASKING. TO HAVE SOMEONE COMING IN. SO THAT'S WHY. WITH THESE AVENUE. AND THAT'S A BIGGER. SO. SO WE'LL WE'LL DO THE TOWN TOWN HALL. OKAY. 7:00.

OKAY. IT'S OKAY. PERFECT. GOOD. OKAY. NEXT, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE BUDGET. AND FIRST IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

GREAT. I'M JOE LUCCHESI. I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF PARKS AND RECREATION. THIS WORK? YEAH. MAKE SURE. OKAY. UM, I PRESENTED A BUDGET TO THE TOWN. THAT'S, UH. IT'S BASICALLY FLAT. WE HAVEN'T INCREASED A LOT OF ITEMS, BUT ONE OF THE INTERESTING NEWS. AND I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL GOT A COPY TODAY, WHICH I WILL HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES ON THE ELECTRONIC VERSION. WE FOUND OUT JUST RECENTLY THAT THE STATE OF NEW YORK IS NOT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. SO THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS PREDICTED TO BE 1750 THIS YEAR. IT'S GOING TO REMAIN AT 17. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CHANGES ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET THAT WE SUBMIT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET THAT I PRESENTED HERE, YOU WILL SEE IN RED IN VERY POOR HANDWRITING, UM, A NEW NUMBER FOLLOWED BY THE AMOUNT OF THE CUT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT. AND THIS IS ALL BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE. SO I CAN GIVE YOU A TOTAL. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CUTS WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $59,300. UM, THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK THE TOWN TO, TO GIVE US FOR THIS YEAR. UM. THAT'S GOOD. AND IT'S BAD BECAUSE THERE'S DEFINITELY INFLATION. BUT THE PEOPLE THAT.

WRITE ARE WORKING TOGETHER, RIGHT? WE HAVE BEEN DEALING, THOUGH FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS WITH AN INCREASE IN THE MINIMUM WAGE ALMOST ON A YEARLY BASIS. AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT AT 17 THIS YEAR. UM, WE THINK THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOLD THAT. UM, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WILL THAT ARE PART TIMERS WILL GET SOME PEOPLE WILL GET INCREASES, BUT THEY WILL BE BY POSITION, NOT BY THE STARTING SALARY.

IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION BECAUSE AS PEOPLE'S EXPENSES, GAS AND FOOD EXPENSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE GO UP. RIGHT.

BUT MANY, MANY OF THESE, MANY OF THESE JOBS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, OPENING JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUNG. 15, 16, 17 YEARS OLD. SO THERE'S $17 IS STILL A DECENT AMOUNT FOR SOMEBODY. SO MANY OF THEM ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR HOUSEHOLDS.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. NO, WE WE GET TO HEAR THE WHOLE FAMILY STORIES. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE WORK WITH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.

UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO, I CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE BUDGETS. THE FIRST BUDGET YOU SEE ON THE PAGE IS A 7020, AND THAT IS OUR SPECIAL RECREATION BUDGET. UM, THERE WERE NO MAJOR CHANGES ON THAT BUDGET THIS YEAR. UM, WE DID, UM, HIRE A RECREATION SUPERVISOR, AND PART OF HER SALARY IS COMING FROM THAT BUDGET, AND PART OF HER SALARY WILL BE COMING FROM THE BE 7020 BUDGET. UM, HER HER, UM, RIGHT. 70, 71, 80. EXCUSE ME, 7180 BUDGET. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HER DUTIES WILL BE TENNIS AND SPECIAL RECREATION IN PARTICULAR. UM, AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. AND THAT ENDED UP AS A SAVINGS OVERALL TO THE A BUDGET. FOR SURE. MHM. COMMISSIONER. SO WENT TO 62 WAS REFLECTIVE OF HALF OF HER STYLE OR. WHATEVER.

NOT HALF. NOT HALF. A PORTION IS BEING ALLOCATED TO THIS BUDGET AND THE REMAINDER IS BEING CUT.

TO THE 71. TO BE LINE BUDGET.

THAT'S TRUE. AND IT'S NOT HALF. IT'S UM IT'S THE PERCENTAGE.

THERE WAS LIKE 30%. NO NO, NO. THE 62 FOR HER SALARY. IS BUDGET.

BUT IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S A MUCH IT'S A MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT. HER TOTAL SALARY IS IN THE 70S. OKAY.

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OKAY. I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 18,000 ADDITIONAL, UM.

BUT ARE YOU STILL GOING TO TRANSFER 30,000 FROM FULL TIME LINE? YES. INTO THE PART TIME LINE.

YES. YES. AND THAT'S THE HIGHER PROGRAM SPECIALIST. BUT EVEN WITH THE $30,000 TRANSFER, THE NEW EMPLOYEE, UM, IT CAME OUT AT THE TIME, AND IT STILL IS.

UM, IT WAS A LOWER AMOUNT OF MONEY THE TOWN HAD TO PAY OVERALL.. LOWERS. THE POSITION IS BECAUSE IT'S A NEW INCOMING PERSON VERSUS SOMEONE THAT WAS, UM, A SEASONED LONG TIME EMPLOYEE. YES. SHE'S COMING IN AT A LOWER RATE. NO. THERE YOU GO. YOU COULDN'T REMEMBER HOW I WAS CLOSE. 26% COMES FROM ANOTHER BUDGET OF HER SALARY. THE NEXT BUDGET IS BE 7020. AND THAT IS THE, UH, RECREATION ADMINISTRATION BUDGET THAT COVERS, UH, ADMINISTRATION COSTS. IT ALSO COVERS, UM, MUCH OF OUR RECREATION ACTIVITIES, OUR RECREATION PROFESSIONALS. UM, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT. BASICALLY, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MAJOR CHANGES ON THAT ONE. UM, MAKE SURE I LOOK, I HAVE NOTES ON THE SIDE FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO DELVE IN A LITTLE CLOSER. UM, WE DID HAVE, UM, IN THE PARTICULAR ON PROGRAM DAY CAMP ACTIVITY. WE DIDN'T SPEND ALL THE MONEY THIS YEAR. WE ALSO DIDN'T SPEND ALL THE MONEY IN SOME OF OUR LINES BECAUSE WE HAD SOME BAD WEATHER THIS YEAR. WE ALSO HAD LOWER ENROLLMENT FOR THE CAMP, UM, DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAD TEMPORARY LOCATIONS, TEMPORARY LOCATIONS WERE SMALLER, SO WE HAD TO DECREASE THE SIZE OF THE CAMPS. OR THE TEMPORARY LOCATIONS WERE BECAUSE THERE WERE THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION, THERE WERE CONSTRUCTION BEING DONE AT THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS THAT THEY GENERALLY HAVE IT. SO HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR? WELL, EACH INDIVIDUAL CAMP WOULD BE DIFFERENT. FOR INSTANCE, CAMP KIDS, WHICH WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE ABOUT 100 KIDS. I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 75.

75, 80, I THINK. RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD AND I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY FEEL THE TOWN SHOULD DO BOTH WITH PARKS AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS, UM, DO LIKE IT PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH LIKE A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF EACH PROGRAM, HOW MUCH EACH PROGRAM COSTS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ENROLLED. BECAUSE THIS IS WHY WE COULD REALLY DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE WORTH CONTINUING AND WHAT PROGRAM. WE DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

WE A AN ANALYSIS THAT WE DO INTERNALLY ALL THE TIME. YOU PROVIDE THAT TO THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE WE COULD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY. IT'S BUT IS THE TOWN BOARD GOING TO GET TO THE DETAIL OF ACTUALLY TELLING US WHICH PROGRAMS TO RUN? NO. BUT LIKE THE THING IS, IF THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT HAS A EIGHT PEOPLE. YES. UH, YOU KNOW, THEN AND LET'S SAY COST $300, I'M JUST THROWING THIS WAY. THEN WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS REALLY A GOOD VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR? ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE THE SPOOK TOBER FEST, WHICH GETS LIKE OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE. SO YOU COULD SAY THAT'S, LIKE, REALLY GREAT VALUE IF YOU HAVE, UH, THE DOCS, WHEN WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE THAT. SO YOU CAN SAY IT'S 100. SO YEAH. BUT PAUL, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING THE PROFESSIONALS HERE TO DO. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT WE DO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE. IT MIGHT BE A SENIOR PROGRAM AND ART PROGRAM, AND THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM THAT WE WOULD WANT IN THERE. THERE MIGHT BE EIGHT PEOPLE IN THE TENNIS.

PROGRAM, AND WE. COULD WE ANALYZE THOSE PROGRAMS AND WE ASSIGN AND WE ASSIGN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WANT TO CHARGE PEOPLE BASED ON THAT, TOO. WE ALSO GO THROUGH, UH, WE MAY COME UP WITH A BRAND NEW PROGRAM, BUT IT TAKES TIME TO ACTUALLY GET IT GOING. BUT I'M NOT I'M NOT REALLY. I'M LOOKING. AT THIS. MAY I JUST JUST TO TO CLARIFY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD ME, BUT AGAIN, THE REASON THEY HAD LOWER ENROLLMENT THIS YEAR WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO MOVE THE PROGRAMS DUE TO CONSTRUCTION BEING DONE AT THE VARIOUS SITES THAT THEY USUALLY HAVE THE CAMPS. SO IT WAS A MAYBE MORE INCONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE. UM, AND, OR MAYBE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE NEW LOCATION, WHICH WAS TEMPORARY. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS FOR THE ENROLLMENT BEING LOWER THIS YEAR. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS.

ALL THAT, LIKE THE IN MY OPINION, THIS IS NOT LIKE A CRITICISM. I'M SAYING I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH ALL THE INTERNAL, YOU KNOW, REVIEWS THAT YOU HAVE. IT WOULD BE TRANSPARENT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY COULD ASK THE QUESTIONS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOUR JUDGMENT IS WRONG. IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE DISCLOSING TO THE PUBLIC HOW THE TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT. AND AGAIN, THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE OR ASK QUESTIONS. BUT THEN I THINK PEOPLE WILL WILL FEEL WE'RE WE'RE BEING VERY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE AT BOTH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE RECREATION. SO I'M NOT JUST FOCUSING ON YOU.

I THINK, JOE, WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY THINK.

ABOUT DOING AN IMPACT REPORT. JUST DON'T IMPACT.

ALL RIGHT? I JUST WANT WE HAVE MANY, MANY PROS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. MENTAL IMPACT REPORT. YOU CAN YOU CAN THAT. WE'VE ALL OF THAT OKAY.

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ALL RIGHT. UM, GOING DOWN THE LIST OF THINGS WE HAD A COUPLE OF ONE TIME COSTS THIS YEAR. WE HAD TO PAY, UH, TO RENT A LOCATION TO HOUSE ONE OF OUR CAMPS THIS YEAR. SO WHENEVER THERE WAS A CHANGE THAT LOOKED SUDDEN AS I WAS GOING UP OR DOWN, WE TRIED TO PUT A NOTE OFF TO THE SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD WHY THAT HAPPENED.

AND IN THE CASE OF THE RENTAL FOR THE FACILITY NEXT YEAR, I'VE CHECKED WITH THE GREENSBURG CENTRAL AND THEY DO NOT PLAN ON HAVING ANY CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'LL BE BACK IN THOSE LOCATIONS AGAIN WHERE WE ARE NOT CHARGED AT ALL. SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE REASONS WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE NOTES ON THE SIDE LIKE THAT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAD THAT WASN'T CLEAR. YOU HAD TO PAY FOR NEW LOCATION.

THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

SO NATURALLY WE DON'T. NORMALLY WE.

DON'T. RIGHT. YEP.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT NEW LOCATION YOU PUT IN FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.

AND THEN WHEN THE PROGRAM IS OVER, YOU PULL THEM.

BACK OUT. YEP. I GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM. YOU WANT. ONE? YES. WE DID, YES WE DID. UM, BUT WE DO ROTATE THOSE IN AND OUT ANYWAY. AND WE WORK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SO THEY WON'T SIT FOR VERY LONG. THEY'LL BE SPREAD AROUND SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. UM, MOVING ON. UH, AND WHEN WE GET TO 7050, BE 7050, THAT'S THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THAT ONE DOES NOT GENERATE INCOME. THAT IS, UH, OUR FULL TIME PARK EMPLOYEES AND PART TIMERS THAT TAKE CARE, CUT THE GRASS, TAKE CARE OF THE BALL FIELDS, DO ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE. WE ALSO, UM, ROLLED BACK SOME OF THE INCREASE IN THE PART TIME LINE IN THAT LINE, ALSO DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.

UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THERE.

OBVIOUSLY THE CSC, UM, CONTRACT IS UNDER NEGOTIATION RIGHT NOW, SO THAT WILL CHANGE AFTER THAT CONTRACT IS FINALIZED. SO THE SALARY WOULD WILL CHANGE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PARKS. DEPARTMENT. 7050. I'M SORRY.

BE 7050 WOULD BE ON PAGE. THREE THREE.

YEAH. UM, WE DID GET A THERE'S OTHER EQUIPMENT. THERE WAS A SPIKE IN HOW MUCH WE SPENT THIS YEAR. WE GOT A $15,000 GRANT FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE USED FOR PURCHASING A, UM, ELECTRIC LAWN MOWER. IT'S A IT'S A RIDE ON MOWER, AND IT'S WORKING GREAT. WE'RE USING IT OVER AT HARMSWORTH PARK. UM, BUT WE DIDN'T WE DON'T WE DON'T HOLD THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR OTHER EQUIPMENT TO THAT AMOUNT FOR THE NEXT YEAR, IT WENT UP 25,000. WE SPENT 40,000 THIS YEAR, AND NOW IT'LL GO BACK DOWN TO 28,000, BECAUSE IT WAS A ONE TIME GRANT. OKAY. COULD YOU PUT A NOTE FOR THAT? IT DID.

SHOULD BE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. AND IT SAYS ALL INCREASING COSTS HAD A $15,000 ONE TIME GRANT TO PURCHASE AN ELECTRIC MOWER IN 2026. IT'S ON THE RIGHT, ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN ON PAGE THREE. THAT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I DIDN'T READ THAT. IT WAS SEPARATE. IT WAS PICNIC TABLES. YEAH, YEAH, I GOT IT. I ADDED IT LATER. THEY'RE ALL INCREASING. AND SO IT HAD A. WHAT YOU KNOW, JUST SO WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET. AND I HAVE A CLEAN COPY OF THIS WITHOUT THE CROSS OUTS. SO YOU KNOW.

OH YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE, UM, TO THE BUDGET ITSELF, MAKE THESE CHANGES AND BRING IT BACK. BUT, UM, WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND WE ADD THESE IN AND OUT, SOMETIMES I DON'T REMEMBER WHY IT SPIKED UP AND DOWN. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHAT NOEL DOES. SHE REMINDS ME ABOUT EVERYTHING. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THAT NOTE IN THERE.

MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD. UM.

YES. SO, UH. 70 554745.

REQUESTED PROJECTS. OKAY.

NOTE ON THE ALL THE WAY FAR ON THE RIGHT, NEW BATHROOM FIXTURES. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT WHERE SPECIFICALLY? YOU'RE OKAY INSIDE, INSIDE THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WE HAVE, UM, TWO SETS OF BATHROOMS. ONE IS THE ORIGINAL BATHROOMS THAT WERE ACTUALLY PUT IN. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN. I THINK THEY WERE THERE WHEN WE GOT THE BUILDING BECAUSE AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE, OUR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING WAS A BARN, UM, AT ONE TIME. AND THEY ADDED THINGS AS THEY WENT. SO WE FEEL THAT THAT PARTICULAR BATHROOM, SINCE WE HAVE ANOTHER SET OF BATHROOMS THAT ARE ASSIGNED NEXT TO THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE OUR TIME AND DO THAT AS AN INTERNAL PROJECT. CUT A BATHROOM.

WELL, MANAGER WINS. OKAY.

I HAD A SUGGESTION YESTERDAY. WE HAD A MEETING OF THE SECOND MEETING OF THE DISABLED ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THERE WAS A WOMAN WITH WHOSE DAUGHTER HAS CEREBRAL PALSY, AND THIS WAS A TOPIC ACTUALLY AT THE MEETING THAT SHE SAID THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF HER GOALS IS FOR BATHROOMS TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE CEREBRAL PALSY. SO, UM, I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THE, THE TOWN, UH, RETROFIT ALL OUR, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BATHROOMS. SO, UM, THE TOWN HALL AND THE PARKS

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DEPARTMENT OF LIBRARY. UM, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID THE DAUGHTER CAN'T USE THE BATHROOM. UM, AND.

WHAT HAS TO BE MODIFIED? YEAH. I MEAN.

SHE'S IN ADDITION TO JUST. BASIC ADA COMPLIANCE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING MORE. YEAH. FOR PEOPLE.

WITH MORE ELEVATED. YEAH, YEAH, SHE SAID SO SHE CAN. CAN YOU BE A LITTLE BIT SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, FOR ADA BATHROOMS THAT, THAT THEY HAVE ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, SIZE REQUIREMENTS. UH, RADIUS REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT IN ADDITION IS NEEDED FOR CEREBRAL PALSY.

SHE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE TOILET SEAT, THE, UH, THE BARS. THERE SHOULD BE BARS ON BOTH SIDES. YOU KNOW, SHE SAID SHE'S GOING TO SHOW UP AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, UH, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE. SO JUST ADDING, LIKE, ADDING A BAR TO THE SIDE. YEAH. SHE HAS A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE SUGGESTIONS THAT SHE'S GOING TO BRING UP. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL. BECAUSE CHANGING THE SIZE WOULD BE DIFFICULT OBVIOUSLY OF THE ACTUAL BATHROOM. BUT ADDING THINGS LIKE A BAR OR WHATEVER IS.

NOT RIGHT. THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS.

UNLESS IT IMPEDES THE RADIUS TURN. FOR INSTANCE.

HOW ABOUT SUGGESTING THEY SEND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS NEW REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE TO US IN ADVANCE.

SO SHE WE JUST HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY.

YEAH. AS LONG.

WOULD YOU HAVE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY? TO BE HONEST, UM, I, I SENT YOU THE MINUTES OF THE DISABLED ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I SENT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD EARLIER TODAY. SO. AND I. DON'T NECESSARILY GET TO.

LOOK. , IT INCLUDES WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO THE BATHROOM. SO SHE'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, SHE JUST MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY. SO ROOMS, UM, FIVE YEARS AGO, I. THINK IT WAS.

FIVE YEARS AGO IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM. AND THEY'RE ALL ADA ACCESSIBLE. WE FOLLOWED ALL THE RULES. YEAH. UM, THE ONLY THING WE STILL HAVE TO ADD ARE CHANGING TABLES.

YES. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DISABLED DON'T THINK OF THE IMPACT OF SOMEBODY WHO IS DISABLED. SO, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF HER DAUGHTER. AND SHE SAID IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE DAUGHTER TO GO OUT. AND LITERALLY NO, WE JUST NEED TO CRITERIA FOR THAT. YES. THAT'S ALL I THINK. SO MOVE ON.

NO, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW.

BOTH OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE ADA OR AT LEAST ONE BATHROOM.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL ASK HER.

THERE'S ADDITIONAL NEEDS FOR SOMEBODY WITH CEREBRAL PALSY.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND SHE. I'LL TELL HER, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, AND SHE'LL BE HAPPY THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING IT UP.

YEAH. WELL, IN ADDITION, PLEASE. YES. WHILE WE WERE SAYING THIS. NO, I'M SAYING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

IN ADDITION, THERE IS THE GOVERNOR'S INITIATIVE. UH, FOR UPGRADING THE COMMUNITY CENTERS ALL ACROSS NEW YORK STATE. AND THIS COULD DEFINITELY FALL, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CENTERS.

THERE'S. RIGHT. UM, I'VE TALKED TO TCC ABOUT THIS AS WELL. SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD FALL UNDER THE GRANT, BUT WE HAVE TO GET THAT MOVING QUICKLY. WE WERE GOING TO MEET ABOUT THAT AND. WE LISTEN. WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO CATCH THINGS THAT WE MISSED. OKAY. WE DID WHEN WE BUILT THE LAST BATHROOMS, WE THEY WERE 100% ADA. RIGHT. BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE LOOK AROUND AND WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE DIDN'T PUT ANY CHANGING TABLES. WELL, SO.

THAT'S ONE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE LITTLE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO IT. AND SO WE HAD THIS VERY MORNING I WENT TO BOBBY AND I SAID, DO WE GET THE CHANGING TABLES? AND HE GOES, NO, THEY'RE IN MY OFFICE. I GOT TO PUT THEM IN, OKAY. BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO STAY UP ON, BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PATRONS THAT USE IT, AND THEY COME RIGHT TO US AND THEY SAY SOMETHING THAT WE MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN. I'M JUST SAYING THERE MAY BE STATE MONEY FOR THAT. RIGHT? AND BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THE WHAT THE ASK IS FOR THIS PERSON. UM, I'M SURE SHE CAN DO THE RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY WE WOULD NEED TO ADD FOR ADA FOR FOR CEREBRAL PALSY, UM, PEOPLE SUFFERING FOR PROBLEMS. AND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE AHEAD OF TIME..

BUT SHE REALLY WAS ALSO LOOKING AT IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO WHEN WE APPROVE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, WOULD WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF IT'S NOT ALL RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN COULD TAKE A LEAD ON AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT COULD BE JUST SECOND NATURE ANYTIME THERE'S CONSTRUCTION. OR WE'LL DO IT. OKAY. SO THE NEXT, UH, BUDGET IS, UH, BE 7180. THAT IS VETERAN PARK. SO IT'S MOST OF THE PROGRAMS THAT OCCUR IN VETERAN PARK, INCLUDING THE LIFEGUARDS, THE TENNIS PROGRAM. UM, ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT THE FRONT GATE, THE PEOPLE THAT TAKE CARE OF THE BATHROOMS THERE, THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT ARE BEING PAID FOR OUT OF BE 71, 80. IF YOU LOOK DOWN, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL CUT IN THAT BUDGET ALSO, BECAUSE THERE'S QUITE A FEW PART TIMERS THAT WORK OUT OF THAT BUDGET. SO WE ENDED UP CUTTING THAT, UM, THAT BUDGET BY $24,000, UM, WHICH IS THE LION'S SHARE OF SOME OF THE CUTS THAT WE PUT THROUGH. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MAJOR CHANGES ON THAT ONE.

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CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE PARK BE SO BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF THE POOR WEATHER? YEAH, WE HAD COLD WEATHER. AND IF YOU HAVE COLD WEATHER ON THE WEEKENDS, EARLY IN THE SEASON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOW TURNOUT. YOU HAVE LOW TURNOUT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOWER REVENUES DURING THE YEAR. UM, WE ALSO FOR THE POOL IN PARTICULAR. RIGHT. THAT'S SO OUR MAIN REVENUE GENERATORS ARE THE DAY CAMP AND ALSO THE POOL.

UM, AND THE UM, THE REVENUES WERE DOWN THIS YEAR, BUT SOME OF THE LINES THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE EXPENDED COMPLETELY EITHER. SO THERE WAS SOME BALANCE THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE A WEATHER RELATED ACTIVITY FOR US TO CONTROL. THAT.

HOW IS ENROLLMENT IN THE CAMPS BEEN? I MEAN, AS WE RAISED.

WE HAD A WAITING LIST. WE COULD HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN QUITE A FEW MORE PEOPLE IN. WE HAD UM, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO GET INTO CAMP THAT WE COULD NOT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY TO GET BACK INTO JACKSON, INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL AGAIN SO WE CAN ACTUALLY EXPAND OUR ENROLLMENT BACK TO, UM, TO ITS FORMER STATUS, MAXIMUM. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST BUDGET IS SEEING 6155.

THAT'S THE NUTRITION BUDGET. UM, WE ALSO, UM, WE ARE HOLDING THE LINE ON THAT AS FAR AS HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT FOR THE PART TIME LINES. WE ARE ANTICIPATING, UM, GOING OUT TO CONTRACT AGAIN FOR THE CATERING. UH, WE PUT IN, WE ANTICIPATED AN INCREASE OF 8%. UM, WE'RE NOT SURE WE HAVE TO WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, BID THIS FALL TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT'S A TWO YEAR BID WITH A ONE YEAR WITH A ONE TIME RENEWAL. SO IT TWO PLUS TWO. UM, WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE CATERER WE HAVE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE NEXT ONE, BUT WITH THE COST OF FOOD GOING UP AND THE PRICE OF DIESEL AND EVERYTHING RISING, WE WANTED TO ANTICIPATE THAT CORRECTLY. SO WE PUT IN AN 8% INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT WOULD BE BOUGHT IN 2027. SO THESE CONTRACTS ARE TWO.

YEARS. THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE DID A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH A ONE YEAR RENEWAL ON THE TWO YEAR CONTRACT.

BUT NOW IT'S A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH A TWO YEAR RENEWAL. NO, IT'S A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH A TWO YEAR RENEWAL. IT'S TWO RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. YOU SAID YOU ORIGINALLY DID A TWO YEAR WITH ONE YEAR RENEWAL. SO WE'RE GOING.

TO DO IT. WE'D LIKE TO DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.

UH, IN TERMS OF UH WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT AGAIN FOR THE MEALS AND WHEELS PROGRAM. EVERY DAY? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COST FOR THE TOWN. FOR THE TOWN. UM, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. UM, THAT COMES FROM THE A BUDGET ORIGINALLY GOES INTO CDN. YEAH. I'M SORT OF WONDERING.

YOU ALSO HAVE GRANTS THAT BALANCE THAT.

OUT ALSO. YEAH. I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING, UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE MEETING WITH PERRY OR TASHA, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, HE WAS ASKING FOR, UM, INITIATIVES WHERE WE COULD ASK OUR STATE LEGISLATORS, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL HELP SINCE THE MEALS ON WHEELS IS SUCH A HIGH PROFILE PROGRAM THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS ZERO CONTROVERSY AND EVERYBODY LIKES, WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY COMMUNITIES THAT DOES IT AS A MUNICIPALITY. UM, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO. UM, OUR STATE LAWMAKERS AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO, UM, UM, GIVE US, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GRANTS FOR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY, NOBODY WOULD BE OPPOSED TO.

LISTEN, WE GET DIFFERENT GRANTS, WE GET STATE GRANTS. WE HAVE WELL, WE GOT FEDERAL GRANTS, AND THEY COME IN AND ASSIST THIS PROGRAM. I THINK APPROXIMATELY WE'RE PAYING ABOUT 400,000. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE. BUT THE TOTAL BUDGET IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 900,000 A YEAR. AND IT'S COVERED BY CONTRIBUTIONS, GRANT MONEY. UM, I DON'T KNOW THE GRANTS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE MOSTLY FOR CAPITAL ITEMS OR ARE THEY FOR ONGOING PROGRAMS. THINK OF LIKE THE MEMBER ITEMS. YOU KNOW, THE STATE. PERSONALLY, THE MEMBER ITEMS I'VE EVER GOTTEN. AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE, UH, WERE THINGS THAT WERE THINGS, NOT PROGRAMS. UM.

NOT ONGOING PROGRAMS, BUT MAYBE THAT'S CHANGED.

I DON'T KNOW. SO JUST, UM, WITH WHAT IS WHEN CONTRIBUTIONS. WHEN I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT STANDS FOR, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S AN ACRONYM FOR A GRANT. OKAY. SO WE GOT.

SO WE GET MONEY FROM WINS. AND THEN.

10,000 LAST YEAR ANTICIPATING RIGHT.

SOME OF THESE ARE SNAP UH GRANTS AND AND AND SOME OF WHEN WE GET CONTRIBUTIONS WE ASSIGN EACH PERSON THAT'S BROUGHT INTO THE PROGRAM TO ONE OF THE GRANTS. AND SO WHEN THEIR CONTRIBUTION COMES IN EACH DAY, IT GETS ASSIGNED TO THAT GRANT.

OKAY. SO IF AND WE IF WE HAVE UM, LET'S, WE TRY TO DO IT BY PERCENTAGES. SO IF I'M GETTING A PERCENTAGE GRANT FROM SNAP THIS BIG AND THIS BIG FROM WIN, THEN I MAY DO. TWO THIRDS OF MY PEOPLE WILL BE SNAP AND ONE THIRD WILL BE WIN. AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ASSIGNED WIN. WHEN THE MONEY COMES IN, IT GOES IN AS A CONTRIBUTION TOWARD.

WIN. SO IS WIN A STATE GRANT.

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I YOU KNOW WHAT I. I WISH I HAD LINDA MANNINO HERE WITH ME BECAUSE SOME OF THE GRANTS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIMES, AND I DON'T WANT TO ASSIGN ONE. SOME ARE STATE.

TO STATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. YES.

RIGHT. AND SOME OF THESE GRANTS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME. THEY GIVE THEM NEW NAMES. THEY USED TO BE CALLED THE C-1 GRANT. THERE WAS A C-2 GRANT. THEN THERE WAS A SNAP GRANT. UM, SO THEY THE NAMES HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME.

YEAH. AND CERTAINLY THE IMPACTS, AS YOU SAID, DIESEL GOING UP AND COST OF FOOD GOING UP. AND THERE'S NO WAY TO PREDICT. LISTEN, IT WOULD BE FINANCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE IF I DIDN'T PUT IN THAT 80%.

RIGHT. I HEARD THAT I'M WRONG.

RIGHT. BUT I, I THINK I NEED TO BE.

UM, RIGHT. I NEED TO LOOK FOR.

THIS AND FURTHER FUNDING TO THE STATE, COUNTY, FEDERAL. BUT THE STATE AND COUNTY, PARTICULARLY UM, AS EFFECTS THIS ONE, I GUESS. ABSOLUTELY. UM, THOSE CUTS MIGHT IMPACT WHAT THE AMOUNTS THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM.

THOSE ENTITIES. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. WE HAVEN'T I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY SEEN THE FULL EFFECTS OF SOME OF THE CUTS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS THEY TRICKLE DOWN. UM, BUT THEY. ARE PART OF IT. BUT A.

LOT OF THEM. AREN'T GOING INTO EFFECT UNTIL UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION IN JANUARY.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLY FOR GRANTS FROM STATE LEGISLATORS BECAUSE WE COULD SAY, LISTEN, THIS MILLS AND WHEELS PROGRAM AND ALL THE ALL THE PROGRAMS WE'RE DOING FOR SENIORS AND ALL THAT, THIS IS REALLY ESSENTIAL. AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE BEING HURT. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FEELING THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO SHOW THAT THE PEOPLE IN ALBANY ARE GOING TO WANT TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE THEY WANT TO HELP. BUT THEY'RE THEIR BUDGET MONIES ARE BEING CUT, TOO. SO THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE THERE MIGHT BE A COMPARABLE, UM, REDUCTION, WHO.

KNOWS? I CERTAINLY WOULD ACCEPT THE.

MONEY. WELL, I'LL WORK ON THIS. ON WHEELS. IS IS A JOINT PROGRAM IS ONE ONE COLLECTIVE PROGRAM BETWEEN THE TWO.

BETWEEN COMMUNITY RESOURCES? NO, IT'S JUST THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. SO PARKS AND REC RUNS THE PROGRAM, AND IT'S THE NUTRITION PROGRAM, AND IT'S REALLY CALLED THE NUTRITION PROGRAM. IT'S NOT CALLED MEALS ON WHEELS. WE DO HOME DELIVERED MEALS AND WE ALSO DO SITES. SO THE SITE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE SITE IN TARRYTOWN, THE SITE AND DOBBS FERRY ARE ALL ALL TAKEN CARE OF BY THIS DEPARTMENT. SO ALL THE FOOD THAT'S DELIVERED TO THE SENIORS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, DOBBS FERRY AND TARRYTOWN COMES FROM THIS PROGRAM.

SO WHEN WE SIGN UP, WE'RE SIGNING UP.

THAT'S RIGHT. EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH.

AND THEN DURING COVID, A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGRATED TO THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM, TO THE. HOME DELIVERY.

I'M SORRY. MEALS ON WHEELS IS A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION.

IT IS A SEPARATE. SO THEY MIGRATED TO THE HOME DELIVERED MEALS PORTION OF THE. PROGRAM.

YEAH. AND THAT UM, WE HAVE SIX DRIVERS THAT LEAVE EVERY DAY TO DELIVER MEALS ACROSS THE TOWN. AND, UH, IF ANY ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RIDE WITH ONE OF THOSE GENTLEMEN OR LADIES TO DELIVER MEALS, I THINK IT'S QUITE AN EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE TO ACTUALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF NEED THERE IS IN THIS TOWN FOR FOR A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANT TO STAY IN THEIR HOME AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO ANYWHERE ELSE, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THIS AND GIVE THEM A SAFETY NET SO THAT THEY CAN. DO THAT.

SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT IF ANYBODY EVER DOES JUST GIVE US A CALL, I'D BE HAPPY. TO.

YEAH. IT'S JUST AS AN ADJUNCT TO THAT. UM, THE, THE I'M JUST CURIOUS AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THIS ANSWER, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UM, IT WAS DICTATED INITIALLY BY COVID, AND NOW PEOPLE HAVE STAYED WITH THAT PROGRAM. IS THERE A REDUCTION THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE STAYED WITH THE PROGRAM OR THAT DID EVERYONE WHO EVERY PERSON ON THAT PROGRAM STAY WITH THAT PROGRAM? A LOT OF THEM MIGRATED BACK TO THE CENTERS. OKAY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STUDIES DONE THAT PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ATTEND CENTERS LIVE LONGER, SUBSTANTIALLY.

LIKE, WELL, THERE'S THREE. INTERACTIONS BECAUSE, WELL, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS THE INTERACTION. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE FOOD, BUT IT'S THE INTERACTION. IT'S ALSO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S MRS. SMITH TODAY? OKAY.

WHY ISN'T SHE HERE OR YOU DON'T LOOK GOOD TODAY. UM, AND YOU DON'T GET THAT WHEN YOU LIVE AT HOME AND.

BY YOURSELF WHEN YOU LIVE AT. HOME AND THE MEAL IS DELIVERED TO YOU, MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED IT. BUT WHEN YOU'RE SITTING AT A GROUP. OF THAT'S A GROUP OF.

PEOPLE AT A TABLE, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY.

TO SHOW. SO THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES I THINK IT GETS UNDERSOLD A LITTLE BIT. BUT EVERY DAY, 400 MEALS ARE DELIVERED OR SERVED IN THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG. IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THAT AS A IN A ONE WEEK PERIOD, IT'S THE LARGEST PROGRAM WE DO, AND WE JUST DO IT EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW? AND I JUST I'M VERY PROUD OF IT.

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MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DID BEFORE I BECAME COMMISSIONER, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S.

VERY IMPORTANT. REASON TO BE.

YES. I LISTEN, WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF AND I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH WORKING WITH THEM TOO.

SO THE ONE STANDS FOR WELLNESS AND NUTRITION.

THANK YOU. THANKS. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I KNOW THEY WANTED ME TO HOLD BACK MY TIME TO 1520 MINUTES. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

VERY OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD.

I'M GOING TO. REMEMBER THAT. GREAT. OH, YEAH.

I THOUGHT YOU DID HER. YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE OVER FEST. AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PUMPKIN LAUNCH. HEY, SO AM I. YEAH.

THAT'S GOING. TO BE YOUR REAL.

WELL, BUT YES, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

THE BEST IN NEW YORK STATE. I LISTEN TO PEOPLE.

PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED OCTOBERFEST MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE GREAT, UM, THE GREAT MACHINE THAT THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.

WE GOT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT.

I KNOW. HIS NAME IS JAMES.

TINA. JAMES. TINA. HE'S OUR CARPENTER. YEAH.

UM, JAMES AND I SAT DOWN. I FOUND SOME SPECS. I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA. I WENT TO JAMES. I SAID, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN BUILD THIS? AND HE SAID, YES, AND WE'VE TESTED IT TWICE.

IT DOES WORK. UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALMOST TAKEN OUT THE CABLE TV, MAN. SO.

BUT HE WAS OKAY WITH IT. HE'S STILL EXCITED.

ABOUT IT. I THINK. HE LIKES PUMPKIN.

SO THANK YOU. VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK SHERRY. OKAY.

NEXT. UH. TERENCE AND DAVID, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE OTHER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER QUICK.

YEAH. THAT'S A WE NEVER SEEN YOU. HELLO. HELLO. HI. HELLO.

HOW YOU. THE KNICKS ARE PLAYING? YEAH, YEAH.

TONIGHT. THAT WAY YOU'LL BE QUICK, HUH? GOOD EVENING GUYS. GOOD EVENING, TOWN BOARD. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. UH.

WE ARE COMING TO YOU TONIGHT WITH OUR 2027.

AND YOU ARE? OH, I'M SORRY, TERRENCE JACKSON. COMMISSIONER. UH, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES, ALONG WITH MY DEPUTY, DAVID REGINA. UH, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT OUR BUDGET FOR THE 2027, UH, BUDGET YEAR.

AND WE'LL JUST RUN IT RIGHT OFF. UM.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE START. WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT. YES, TWO.

PROBABLY TWO DEPARTMENTS, 7310 AND 7320.

SO ONE IS THE THE CENTER ITSELF AND ONE IS THE POOL.

POOL SIDE. OKAY. SO YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE FAR LEFT CORNER WHETHER IT'S 10. OR 20.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT UH, 773 TEN. MOST OF OUR INCREASES ARE UM, THINGS THAT DIRECTLY RELATE TO PART TIME STAFF. AND, UM, FOOD FOR THE KIDS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, IF I CAN TAKE YOU TO LINE 5190 AND THE TWO UNDERNEATH THAT. WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON? THE FIRST PAGE. OF 7310.

YEAH. TIMES STICKERS.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT EVERY YEAR. IT JUST KEEPS GOING UP WITH THE EITHER THE THE AMOUNT OF KIDS THAT WE HAVE COMING INTO OUR PROGRAM, WHICH GIVE US A NEED FOR MORE STAFF.

UM, WITH DIFFERENT UM, UH, CONCERNS COMING FROM WHETHER THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH OR DDOT, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT CHANGES WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR IT. BUT THE PRICE, INEVITABLY, OF, UM, RUNNING OUR PROGRAMS OVER THE YEARS JUST DOES KEEP GOING UP. WE ARE SUGGESTING, UM, GOING FROM 425,000 TO 440, UH, AS I BELIEVE JOE SAID, UH, WE WERE ANTICIPATING A 17.5 INCREASE IN, UH, MINIMUM WAGE, BUT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. SO WE TOOK OUR NUMBER DOWN AND THAT IS THE NUMBER WE ARE WITH AT THE MOMENT. UH, ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE THEY ARE CONNECTED, OUR PART TIME SEASONAL THAT FALLS UNDER THE SUMMER CAMP, WE HAD A GREAT YEAR OF SUMMER CAMP THIS YEAR. IN FACT, WE HAD A HIGH NUMBER, UM, AND WE BELIEVE WE GOT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T GET INTO PARKS AND REC TO US, BUT THEY HAD A WONDERFUL TIME. UM, AND, UH. SO WE HAVE A COMPETITION NOW.

GOING HERE. WELL, WE'LL. SEE, BUT, UH, IT WAS A GREAT YEAR. UM, UH, SAFETY WISE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE DID A GREAT JOB WITH OUR TEAM. UH, WE WERE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. UM, THEY WERE VERY SATISFIED ON ALL LEVELS AS TO WHAT WE DID AND HOW WE OPERATED THIS YEAR.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? UM, SO THE THE PROJECTED ACTUALS, UM, SHOW A REASONABLY LARGE INCREASE OVER THE

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ORIGINAL BUDGET, BUT THEN YOU BROUGHT IT DOWN AGAIN, NOT TOTALLY, BUT DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY IT WENT UP AND THEN HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO BRING IT DOWN? NO. WELL.

I'LL JUMP IN ON THAT. SO THE PROJECTED IS THE 486. CORRECT.

AND WE PROPOSED THAT FOR 70. UM, SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT THAT GAP. YEAH. WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IN THE FULL THE FULL AMOUNT. BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROJECTED ACTUALS FOR 2026. SO THAT WENT UP FROM 450. SO THAT'S A YEAH.

SO THAT WAS $1,000. YES. BECAUSE WE OFFERED WAY MORE. AND WE ARE WE JUST NEED MORE STAFF. AND WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO REEVALUATE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES. YOU KNOW, LIKE PAUL HAD MENTIONED. UM, BUT THIS SEASONAL IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DECIDE, ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THE PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES AND SERVICES TO OVER 400 FAMILIES, OR ARE WE LOOKING TO CUT THAT NUMBER? WILL YOU BE. ABLE TO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CUTTING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT AS THE SUPERVISOR SUGGESTED, IF THERE ARE ANY PROGRAMS THAT DON'T GET THE ENROLLMENT. I GUESS.

SO THAT WE SHOULD. LOOK JUST LIKE, UH, PARKS AND REC, WE CONSTANTLY EVALUATE OUR PROGRAMS. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD TO ONE SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR FOR THE SUPPORT. UM, BUT ALSO TO OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF, THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR I'VE BEEN THERE 11 YEARS NOW.

AND THIS IS THE BEST STAFF THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW. SO WE ALSO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING A LOT OF JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HISTORICALLY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT PLAN TO CHANGE. UM, THAT NUMBER COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT HIGHER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE FELT THAT IT WAS NECESSARY TO INCREASE IT, YOU KNOW, OFF OF A REALISTIC NUMBER. UM, BUT IF WE KEEP OFFERING SERVICES TO MORE FAMILIES, THEN THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO. CONTINUE TO GROW. THAT MAKES SENSE. IT JUST WENT UP FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET CONSIDERABLY.

AND THEN YOU YOU DROPPED IT BACK DOWN PORT. A SMALL AMOUNT RELATIVELY, OR HALF THAT AMOUNT. SO, UM, SO YOU'RE NOT PROJECTING AS MUCH. CORRECT. AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING INTO DIFFERENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFSET.

YES. SO I WANT TO CONTINUE ON THIS ON THIS NARRATIVE, BECAUSE I SEE THIS PROJECTION. SO YOU HAVEN'T GOT ALL YOUR INVOICES IN FOR THE WEEK. SO THIS NUMBER CAN BE HIGHER. THAT NUMBER ARE NOT PART TIME SEASONAL, SEASONAL SEASONAL WOULD BE CLOSED OUT. YES. UM, BUT PART. TIME. CORRECT. BUT THIS NUMBER IS HERE. THAT'S THE FINAL NUMBER FOR THIS.

ON SEASONAL. YES. OKAY. AND THAT NUMBER IS 51910. YEP. SO SEASONAL IS DONE. THE 486728. THAT IS THE FINAL NUMBER. CORRECT. THE NOTHING ELSE WILL BE CHARGED TO THAT ACCOUNT. CORRECT.

COULD YOU GET US JUST LIKE I ASKED THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? UM, LIKE AN OPTIMIZATION OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN EACH PROGRAM. THE COST PER PROGRAM. UM, UM, YOU KNOW.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO ANYTHING YOU ASK US TO DO, WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING AND ABLE TO DO IT. HOWEVER, THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO THIS IN 2024, IT WAS DONE IN 2021, IT WAS DONE AND SUBMITTED. WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY LEVEL OF FEEDBACK.

UM, SO AFTER WE DID PROVIDE THOSE REPORTS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ASKED THAT THEY DO GET CLOSELY LOOKED AT AND ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER LUCAS'S POINT, UM, WE ARE CONSTANTLY EVALUATING THESE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. RIGHT. AND JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS, YOU KNOW, 8 TO 10 PEOPLE IN IT, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT THAT SPACE ALLOWS.

DO YOU INDICATE THAT IN YOUR REPORT? YES, YES. OKAY. I COULDN'T REMEMBER I DO REMEMBER SENIOR NO. AND I REMEMBER AND APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING AT THAT TIME. BUT THERE WAS NO FORMAL RECOMMENDATION BACK. SO IF OUR TEAM IS GOING TO SPEND THE TIME TO EVALUATE THESE 243 PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES AND SERVICES, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ASKED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU.

GUYS. I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD.

DO. IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN JUST RUN THE NUMBERS TO SEE EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING THE PROGRAM. SO JUST A AN IMPACT REPORT OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING. AND.

YOU KNOW. IT DOESN'T PRINT OUT AS CLEAN AS THAT. SO IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE MANIPULATION, UH, TO GET SOMETHING THAT'S EASY FOR YOU ALL TO READ AND QUICKLY GET TO YOU. BUT YES. YEAH, THE INFORMATION IS THERE.

YEAH. WE HAVE THE INFORMATION.

PLUS THE RECOMMENDATIONS. RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT APPEARS AS A. RIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT WHILE WE REALLY SHOULD DO IS WE SHOULD GET A REPORT FROM, YOU KNOW, BOTH DEPARTMENTS AND THEN DISCUSS IT AT THE WORK SESSION AND JUST HAVE A INSTEAD OF JUST SHARING IT. AND THEN ANYBODY COULD ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN THE PUBLIC WOULD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY ARE NOT EVEN AWARE OF SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS. AND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, LIKE YOUR KARATE PROGRAM IS FANTASTIC. THE POOL, YOU KNOW, IT'S USED, YOU KNOW, THE SENIOR ACTIVITIES. YOU DO A LOT OF REALLY GREAT THINGS. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE RATES THAT YOU CHARGE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE VILLAGES OR PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT OF GREENBERG OR OUT OF GREENBERG VILLAGES, UM, SHOULD HAVE WE HAD MAYBE SAY A THREE

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TIER, UM, FEE WHERE IT WOULD BE UNINCORPORATED. GREENBERG RESIDENTS GET, YOU KNOW, THE CHEAPEST RATES. THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS WOULD GET SOMETHING A LITTLE HIGHER. BUT IF YOU LIVE IN YONKERS OR WHITE PLAINS OR MOUNT VERNON, YOU KNOW ANY OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, THEN YOU WOULD PAY MORE.

YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE WE DO ALLOW RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS. SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO CREATE THAT THIRD TIER, WHICH IS CERTAINLY DOABLE. UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION AROUND NOMINAL INCREASES, YOU KNOW, ACROSS PROGRAMS. UM, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF A PROGRAM BEING $70, YOU KNOW, THAT PROGRAM WOULD HAVE TO GO TO $80. IS THAT.

IN THIS BUDGET, THE NOMINAL INCREASES.

SO WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT REPORT. SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CERTAINLY WE CAN.

BUT THERE IS ONE OTHER PIECE TO THAT. UM, THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE REC ONE UH, IS A SYSTEM THAT WAS RECENTLY. A YEAR OR TWO YEARS PURCHASED BY SOMEBODY ELSE, CIVIC PLUS, WHICH IS WE'RE USING FOR SOMETHING ELSE. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONNECT WITH THEM TO SEE HOW TO DO THAT BEST, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE SYSTEM BEING ABLE TO DO IT AND BUILT THAT WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE A HARD TIME FOR US TO TO MANAGE IT IN THAT SENSE. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE. IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE FULL FLEDGED FOR. THAT WOULD HELP US. IN A LOT OF WAYS.

WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT I HAVE TO DO MY BUDGET BY OCTOBER 30TH, AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE KIMBERLY, UM, YOU KNOW, REVENUE PROJECTION REVENUE, ADDITIONAL REVENUES, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THE INCREASES.

WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT. AND ALSO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY JUST ON, ON RECORD, YOU KNOW, IF A PROGRAM LIKE SEWING, RIGHT, IS, IS A GO AND WE HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VERY SMALL FEES THAT ARE PAID OUT TO THESE INSTRUCTORS. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING $40 A WEEK THAT ARE PAID OUT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY COSTING US THAT MUCH MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. BUT TO THE EIGHT RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE, IT'S A REAL VALUE TO THEM TO BE ABLE TO STEP OUT AND, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO GET INTO THEIR COMMUNITY AND TAKE A PROGRAM.

IN TERMS OF RENTALS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENT OF THE, SAY, A TYPICAL DAY IS, YOU KNOW, RENTED OUT AND ARE THE RENTAL, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS. YOU KNOW, THE GREENBERG RENTAL, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, RENTAL, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE RENTING THE FACILITY FOR THEIR USE. YES.

BOTH OF YOU USES LIKE THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT PERCENT IS FROM RENTALS? I MEAN, THE MAJORITY IS COMMUNITY RENTALS, RIGHT? LIKE, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE RENTING THE FACILITY WHEN AVAILABLE. BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY PARKS AND RECREATION, WHO COME AND UTILIZE OUR POOL, UM, WHICH REALLY HELP OFFSET THE COSTS FOR OUR CAMPS TO THEN GO TRAVEL TO PLAYLAND AND COUNTY, UH, YOU KNOW, COUNTY OWNED AND OPERATED PARKS, WHICH HAS BEEN A HUGE, HUGE VALUE EXCHANGE FOR US. BUT I WOULD SAY 90% OF OUR RENTALS ARE COMMUNITY RENTALS. AND SO YOU'RE AWARE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A COMMUNITY RESOURCE. SO AS LONG AS YOU'VE ALL HEARD THIS BEFORE, IF IT MIGHT BE ONCE A QUARTER, UM, AND IT IS A REAL, UM, CONNECTION TO THE CENTER, UM, THE CHARGE IS NOMINAL. UH, IF THERE IS ONE, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. BUT THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE COMING IN TO USE, WHETHER IT'S CLASSROOMS, UM, THE GYM, THE DANCE STUDIO, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT AND CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, PAUL, AT THE BOTTOM HERE, I CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UM, THIS WOULD BE COMMUNITY CENTER FEES, UH, 420020. UM, THAT FOR SOME REASON WE WERE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS ENTERING OUR NUMBERS. THAT 195 SHOULD GO BACK UP TO 300, WHICH IS A NUMBER THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO REVENUE.

UM, THIS IS A LITTLE CONFUSING. THE THIRD SHEET, WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE THOSE EXPENSES REFERRING? YOU DON'T HAVE A THIRD SHEET. SO YEAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

I THINK IT PROBABLY GETS CROSSED OVER FROM ANOTHER PAGE.

IN MY RIGHT THEN. SO IT'S CONFUSION.

WHAT IS THE TOP. OH OH CUT OFF. IT'S 2025 2025.

YES, YES. SO IT'S 2025 DATA. UM, WHICH AT THIS POINT IS ALMOST MOOT, BUT UM, YES, IT'S JUST THE INFORMATION FROM THAT TIME FRAME. SO WE CAN SEE GOING FORWARD WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE'RE GOING AND THE TREND. BUT IT DOES IT DOES CORRESPOND TO THE OTHER SHEET. SO YES, IT DOES. UM.

THIS SHOULD BE THAT. UH, PART TIME EDUCATIONAL, UM, MOVED UH, TO 145. THEY'RE UP ABOUT $10,000. UM, JUST IN CONTINUED GROWTH WITH THAT PROGRAM. WE ARE UP TO HOW MANY AT THE MOMENT? 70. UH, YES. 775, 75. WE WILL BE AT 90, THOUGH. YEAH. IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO GROW TO 90. WE'RE WAITING. PEOPLE GET ALL THEIR INFORMATION IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND POSSIBLY MORE COME JANUARY. LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE RENTAL. SO I THINK JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

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YEAH. PROGRAM ANALYSIS MAYBE LIKE A RENTAL ANALYSIS. AND WOULD WE BE LET'S SAY WESTCHESTER COUNTY IS RENTING OUR FACILITY? UM, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY RENT, SAY OTHER FACILITIES. AND ARE WE CHARGING THE COMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW, COMPETITIVE RATES OR ARE WE GIVING THEM LIKE A STEEP DISCOUNT? I MEAN, THERE MAY BE ORGANIZATIONS, NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE RENTING THE SPACE. AND IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR CLERK RAISED UP OUR PERMIT FEES, MAYBE DO WE NEED TO LOOK.

AT. RAISING MONEY? WELL, WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT RAISING PROGRAMS. ALL RENTALS WILL GO RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT FOR SURE. BUT IN THIS SITUATION OF, UM, COUNTY CENTER AND THE AQUATICS PROGRAM, UH, THERE'S NO NUMBER THAT COULD BE PUT TO THAT WHEN THEY ALLOW US TO GET INTO THEIR POOLS DURING THE SUMMER AND. PLAY LAND FOR $6,000 TO BRING.

KIDS, THAT'S GREAT. IT'S JUST AMAZING.

AND THEN ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, THOUGH, EVERY TIME YOU RENT A FACILITY, WHEN STAFF WOULDN'T BE THERE, THAT PART TIME LINE GOES UP. THAT'S RIGHT.

NO. SO JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE BRINGING IN REVENUE, WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE LINE THAT'S. YEAH.

ASSOCIATED AND CORRELATED. WITH.

I'M NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, CRITICIZING. I JUST HAVE TO FEEL THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE EXPLAIN EVERYTHING AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING LIKE SO TRANSPARENT, THEN PEOPLE FEEL POSITIVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I COULD BE ASKING A QUESTION. AND THEN WHEN YOU EXPLAIN IT, THEY COULD SAY, OH, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? REALLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

ABSOLUTELY. LISTEN, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON, YOU KNOW, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH HIS LEADERSHIP IN TERMS OF THE TRANSPARENCY. AND IF ANY RESIDENT HAS A QUESTION, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. OUR DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS. GREAT.

ONE THING WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND TRYING TO DO IS TO CONNECT THE EDGEMONT RECREATION MORE WITH THE REST OF UNINCORPORATED, AND THAT MAY ALSO HELP WITH SOME REVENUE STREAMS. UM.

YEAH, WE'RE OPEN TO ALL OF IT. WELL, WE HAVE A LOT OF EDGE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER TO THE POSTSEASON POOL. UM, AND OUR CHINESE EVERGREEN COMMITTEE. YEAH, A LOT OF THOSE. PEOPLE JUST NEED TO BE VERY.

I'M SORRY. IT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. WE GOT THE MEETING, GOT CANCELED. BUT IT'S REALLY JUST TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE HAVE. THE PROGRAMS, DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAMS WE HAVE AND JUMP INTO PROGRAM. WE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT STARTING SOMETHING SPECIAL OR WHATEVER, BUT HOWEVER, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S AN EVENT THAT NEEDS A RENTAL, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT POSSIBLY CAN SURELY BE DONE. BUT IT'S REALLY JUST INFORMATION GATHERING. SO THEY KNEW ABOUT US, WE KNEW ABOUT THEM AND THE THINGS THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP.. SOMETIMES IT'S MONUMENT.

EDGEMONT. YOU MEAN EDGEMONT DOESN'T HAVE. IT'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. YEAH.

THAT'S TRUE. OH, PRETTY MUCH.

THEY ARE. YEAH, I KNOW THAT.

BESIDES BASKETBALL, BECAUSE. THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW A LOT OF RESIDENTS. A LOT OF EDGEMONT RESIDENTS DO PARTAKE IN BASKETBALL AND SWIMMING CURRENTLY.

YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT CAMP. RIGHT? UH, YES, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE A COUPLE CAMPS. THAT IS CORRECT.

TRYING TO MERGE. OKAY. NO, NO, NO, NO, DEFINITELY. NOT. I'M SO CONFUSED ABOUT.

WELL, IT'S JUST SIMPLY THAT THAT THE EDGEMONT RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF AN AWARENESS OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. AND SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CREATING THAT AWARENESS. FOR PARKS AND REC AND THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES. SURE. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CREATING NEW PROGRAMS. NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT JUST FOR AWARENESS OR AWARENESS OF PARTICIPATION. IT JUST SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE PERHAPS INCORPORATING. NO, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW.

I THINK MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE A CLUE. ALL THAT'S OFFERED IN OUR PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, THE THE YOU ALL KNOW THIS. THE TOWN BROCHURE IS PROBABLY THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN TOWN, BUT IT IS LENGTHY.

YOU'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH IT. BUT IT IS THE BEST WAY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THERE IS AND HOW IT'S BEST TO BE USED. SO WE WERE BRINGING, THEY ASKED, CAN WE SEND A BUNCH OVER? I WAS LIKE, WELL, WE STOPPED PRINTING SO MANY, BUT IT IS ONLINE. YOU CAN GO RIGHT TO IT. UM. MAYBE JUST TO MAKE THAT LINK MORE, UM, MORE WIDELY. SURELY EVERYONE THAT COMES INTO THE CLERK'S OFFICE RECEIVES A BOOK WHEN THEY WALK OUT THE DOOR.. THERE YOU GO.

WE WE WE ALWAYS PUT A, UH, A PAPERCLIP ON OUR SECTION SO THEY CAN GO RIGHT TO IT. YOU KNOW.

I WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT SECTION TO COPY IT AND MAKE.

SURE, SURE, SURE, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. UM, TRANSPORTATION.

UH, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT JOE SAID ON IT BECAUSE WE ARE VERY MUCH CONNECTED WITH THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THE, UM, $50,000 THAT WAS PUT IN FOR COACH BUSES FOR OUR SENIORS.

UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD TO TELL YOU ALL IT HAS BEEN A A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE FOR OUR SENIORS THAT ARE DOING THOSE LONGER TRIPS.

UM, THEY VERY MUCH ENJOY IT. IT HAS BEEN GOING VERY WELL BETWEEN US AND PARKS AND REC. THESE ARE THE RENTALS.

THESE ARE THE RENTAL. UH, UM, COACH BUSES, RIGHT? RENTAL COACH. BUSES. CLARIFY THAT FOR ANYONE.

YES. THANK YOU. UH, RENTAL COACH BUSES. IT HAS BEEN GOING

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VERY WELL AND IT WAS JUST VERY TIMELY WITH THE DOT SITUATION THAT CAME THROUGH AS WELL. SO, UM, WE VERY MUCH WANT TO CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM. UH, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU MIGHT SEE A LITTLE MORE MONEY FROM OUT OF THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T START IT UNTIL APRIL. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH IT. WE'RE ADDING A COUPLE PROGRAMS, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME MONEY LEFT, BUT NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE FULL TILT AND AND BE ABLE TO MOVE. WITH. SPEAKING OF BUSES.

OH GOODNESS. THERE WAS A CONSTITUENT WHO WAS CONCERNED AT ABOUT HOW LONG IT WAS TAKING TO GET THE NEW BUSES. YES. SO CAN YOU GIVE AN UPDATE? SO THE TOUR BUS, 40 PASSENGER TOUR BUS WITH A LIFTGATE, UH, IS DEFINITELY IN IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. I'VE HEARD LATE DECEMBER OR EARLY JANUARY.

SO THAT THE DELAY IS BECAUSE FROM TIME OF ORDER. YES. UNTIL IT'S FULLY PRODUCED AND OUTFITTED IS WHAT IS TAKING A GOOD PORTION OF THAT TIME, WHICH IS WHAT I.

BUILDING BUILDING FROM SCRATCH, SCRATCH WITH THAT. WE ALSO HAVE A SCHOOL BUS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AT ACTUAL YELLOW SCHOOL BUS. ALL THE FLASHES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, THEY ARE A LITTLE MORE READILY AVAILABLE. I'M WORKING WITH PURCHASING TO EXPEDITE THAT PROGRAM. UM, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH BLUEBIRD, BIRD, BUS BIRD, ONE OF.

THOSE CLOSE ENOUGH. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE COMPANY. THEY ALL GO TOGETHER. BLUEBIRD. OH. THANK YOU. UM, WHO IS CERTIFIED, HAS ALL THEIR CERTIFICATIONS, AND WE GO TO ONE PLACE. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THERE. THEY HAVE A, UM, A 2006 THAT JUST GOT APPROVED. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE US THAT ONE, WHICH WOULD BE BEST, AND WE CAN START MOVING WITH THAT 2026. EXCUSE ME. MY NUMBER IS A BAD TODAY.

KEEP LEAVING. LEAVING STUFF OUT. UM, 2026 THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT DOCUMENT TO SEND TO US SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. I AM WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH DAVID RYAN AND PURCHASING ON THAT, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT COMES THROUGH AND THAT BECAUSE THOSE BUSES ARE A LITTLE MORE AVAILABLE, WE CAN GET IT QUICKLY AND GET MOVING. THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO US SO THAT WE HAVE A LARGE BUS TO MOVE THESE KIDS. WE ARE USING OUR THREE SHORTER BUSES RIGHT NOW WITH OUR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. IT'S WORKING, BUT NOT THE.

BEST TIMELINE. FOR FOR WHEN YOU THINK THAT YOU MIGHT OBTAIN THAT. I WANT TO GET THE PAPER WHEN I MIGHT GET THAT HE. I TALKED TO HIM TODAY. HE SENT ME A TEXT.

UM, HE HOPES TO HAVE IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. AND THAT'S THAT'S. NO, THAT'S THE PERSON FROM BLUEBIRD BUS. AND, UH, THEN WE PUSH IT THROUGH PURCHASING AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT MOVES OUT THERE AND THEN SEE WHAT THE INVENTORY IS LIKE.

OKAY. SO YOU LAST PERSON, THE CONSTITUENT WAS MORE CONCERNED I THINK ABOUT THE THE SMALLER BUSES FOR THE SENIORS. UM, ADDITIONAL TO THE, THE COACH RENTALS AND THE OTHER THE 40 PASSENGER THAT THEY'RE THAT GOING PLACES ON THE SMALLER BUSES IS STILL NOT A GREAT EXPERIENCE. AND SOME OF THE BUSES ARE STILL VERY OLD. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

SO THE TWO BUSES WE HAVE LEFT, WE, WE BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE D.O.T. THING, WE DROPPED TWO BUSES THAT WERE OLD, DIDN'T WEREN'T WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM TO GO THAT FAR. AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE DROPPED THOSE. THE TWO THAT WE HAVE NOW, A 30 PASSENGER WITH A LIFTGATE AND A 40 PASSENGER. OUR NEWEST BUSES RUNNING GREAT. UM, DO EVERYTHING. AND, UM, IT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO TO MAKE THOSE RUNS. UM, IT'S JUST WHERE IT IS. BUT YOU YOU INCLUDE THE TOUR BUS, I CALL IT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING. THAT WILL BE A GREAT RIDE THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE A LOT MORE OFTEN. OKAY. FOR THOSE, AGAIN, SLIGHTLY LONGER TRIPS. AND EVERYBODY SHOULD, UH, SIT AND FEEL, WELL. GOOD. GREAT.

THANK YOU. WELCOME. THAT IS ALL WE'RE ADDING INTO THIS, UH, THIS BUDGET LINE OF 73. I'M GOING TO GO CAP REAL QUICK.

YES. AND YOUR OTHER VEHICLE, WHAT IS THAT RESOLVED? THE OTHER VEHICLE? NO, THAT'S THAT'S BEING DONE. REALLY? THAT'S BEING DONE. UM, SO SOMETHING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED BECAUSE WE WERE STILL WORKING ON, UM, NUMBERS, AND WE HAVE TO ENTER THIS INTO THE SYSTEM. UM, WE GOT WORD THAT THE COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM IS CLOSING AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME DATA THAT IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. UM, AND IN 2020, I CAN GIVE YOU GUYS ALL A COPY OF THIS. UM, AND REALLY, IF YOU JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THIS BOTTOM NUMBER HERE OF NUMBER OF SERVICES. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM PROVIDES VITAL RESOURCES AND LOCAL NEEDS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT INCLUDE FOOD PANTRY, UM, EVICTION PREVENTION, UM, I NEED ONE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT HERE. GO

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AHEAD. UH, EVICTION PREVENTION AND HOLIDAY GIVING. UM, SO REALLY, YOU JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SERVICES THAT ARE ALL RECORDED NUMBERS HERE AND 12,000. SO THIS IS JUST TO DATE, AS OF TEN ONE ACTUALLY. OH NO, I'M SORRY. 930 2026. UM, SO THAT BOTTOM NUMBER OF NUMBER OF SERVICES IS AT 11,977 HOUSEHOLD SERVICE. UM, WHO IS ACTUALLY CLOSING IT? WHO'S WHAT? WHO'S CLOSING THE PROGRAM? WHO'S CLOSING THE PROGRAM? LET'S STOP..

AND IT IS PUBLIC. IS A WHAT? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? PRIVATE. IN OTHER WORDS. WHAT IS SO THEY WHERE DO THEY GET THEIR FUNDING FROM THAT THEY HAVE TO CLOSE IT. I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK ON THEM, BUT I BELIEVE THEY GET A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME THROUGH THE STATE AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES THERE. YEAH, I'M SURE.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AT HIGHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, THEY'RE CUTTING THESE PROGRAMS MORE AND MORE IS FALLING ON THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY. RIGHT. WHICH FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY.

RIGHT. WELL, IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE.

THING TO THE STATE. THE COUNTY. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE TO BE IN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY OUR FAIRVIEW COMMUNITY IN GREENBURG AS A WHOLE HAS REALLY RELIED ON THESE PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE HAVE GONE ON OVER THE YEARS. SO THAT'S REAL DATA IN REAL TIME, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY WITH FOOD DISTRIBUTION AND, YOU KNOW, SERVICING 12,000 DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS IS IMPORTANT.

SO IT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT THAT GREENBERG IS CLOSING THE PROGRAM. RIGHT.

IT'S WE'RE THAT'S. WHAT WE'RE AGENCY BECAUSE THEIR FUNDING IS DRYING UP. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO CONSTITUENTS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE AND CONCERNS, I SHOULD SAY, CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME ACROSS TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GUYS NOT GOING TO OFFER THIS? THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO THE CONVERSATION OF, LOOK, THIS IS NOT A GREENBERG PROGRAM. HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN HOUSED HERE FOR YEARS. AND TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THIS PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT $85,000 FOR THE YEAR. SO THAT NUMBER NEEDS TO BE COMPARED AGAINST THE NUMBER OF SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL, YOU KNOW, PUT INTO THIS BUDGET. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE TEAM IN PLACE TO, YOU KNOW, FULFILL THIS DUTY TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WHERE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY? YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME TO US. WHERE IS IS ANYONE SHOWING UP AT THE COUNTY MEETINGS TO SAY, WHY IS IT FUNDING DOING THIS? OR THE STATE OR, YOU KNOW, STATE REPRESENTATIVES ARE GOING AROUND HOLDING BUDGET HEARINGS? I'D BE WILLING TO BET NOT ONE PERSON IS THERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE TOWN IS GOING TO PICK UP THE COST, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE, BUT WE HAVE SERIOUS FINANCIAL ISSUES IN THIS TOWN.

THAT'S A GREAT BE VERY GOOD. WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

AND FRANKLY, I THINK OUR HIGHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED AS WELL. THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO FUND IT? AND AT SOME POINT THAT MINDSET HAS TO STOP. RIGHT? WELL, THERE MAY BE WE KEEP TALKING AT THE SAME TIME. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UM, BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM A NON-PROFIT, I DON'T THINK THEY FEEL THAT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THE TOWN IS, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS TIME HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OR BENEFITING FROM THIS NON-PROFIT, PROVIDING THE FUNDING. RIGHT? SO I DON'T SEE THAT THEY MAY THINK WITH ALL THEIR CUTS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, THAT IT'S FOR THEM TO PICK IT UP. SO MAYBE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. WHO IS THE THEM IN YOUR DISCUSSION? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

SO IF THE STATE IS NOT FUNDING. THEM.

THEY'RE BUT WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THEIR FUNDING. RIGHT.

IF THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THE STATE, IF THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THE COUNTY, IF THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAN BY THE THOSE ENTITIES CUTTING BACK, THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO CUT THE PROGRAM. RIGHT. IT'S NOT I'M SURE THIS NONPROFIT DIDN'T DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES ANYMORE. THERE MUST BE SOME LACK OF FUNDING THAT THEY WERE GETTING THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER GETTING, IN MY OPINION. YEAH.

THAT'S EASY ENOUGH. WE COULD LOOK THAT UP.

RIGHT? OR IF GRANT'S ARE DONE PROPERLY, WE.

THEN REACH OUT. TO AS.

WELL ON BEHALF OF OUR CONSTITUENTS TO SAY THIS IS NOT FAIR. YOU KNOW, THERE'S 12,000 SERVICES, RIGHT? AS OPPOSED TO US SAYING, OH, OKAY, IT'S 12,000 SERVICES. LET'S PUT $85,000 MORE. I UNDERSTAND.

RIGHT? YEP. NO, LISTEN, I THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE DEFINITELY SHEDDING LIGHT ON IT. I THINK THERE ARE VARIABLES THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY AWARE OF. UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON AN ACCURATE NUMBER, UH, FROM KIMBERLY AND SHERRY, BOTH. I THINK THE TOWN RIGHT NOW CONTRIBUTES EITHER 15 OR $17,000 TO TOWARDS WEST COBB. IS THAT ACCURATE? SHERRY? YEAH, 17,000. UH, WE CURRENTLY CONTRIBUTE 17,000. UM, SO THE FULL NUMBER WOULDN'T BE THE 85. IT WOULD BE 85 MINUS THE 17.

YEAH, ABOUT 70, 68,000. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WANTED TO COME IN HERE WITH FACTUAL INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, REAL RESIDENTS WHO

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ARE SUFFERING. AND TO FRANCIS'S POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU DEFINITELY RAISE A GOOD ISSUE. BUT OUR JOB AND RESPONSIBILITY HERE, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONERS, IS TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY, PROPOSE IT, AND THEN, YOU.

KNOW. SO HOLD ON, HOLD ON, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COME TO A PERIOD. SO LET ME PIGGYBACK ON WHAT PAUL SAID WHEN WE WERE TALKING. THIS IS THIS IS ACTUALLY POSED TO THE BOARD AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR INITIATIVES FOR A LOBBYIST TO BRING TO THE STATE. THIS IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR INITIATIVES THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO THE STATE, BECAUSE WE ARE LOSING A SERIOUS SERVICE HERE. SO AS WE'RE LOOKING TO TALK TO PERRY, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR THE STATE TO SAY. AS YOU ARE AWARE OF, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT MARY JANE AND I'M SORRY THAT ASSEMBLYWOMAN CHOMSKY AND MAJORITY LEADER COUSINS UNDERSTANDS AND KNOWS ABOUT THE LOSS OF THIS AGENCY BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT LOSS TO WESTCHESTER COUNTY. IT'S JUST NOT AFFECTING GREENBERG. IT'S AFFECTING ALL OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY. EXCUSE ME OF COUNTY, SO THAT I THINK BELIEVE WITH I THINK IF IF AN AGREEMENT FROM THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY NEEDS TO GO UP TO STATE TO ME THAT'S NUMBER TWO. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

ANOTHER ISSUE IS, UH, YOU WERE MENTIONING EVICTION PREVENTION AND NOW THE COUNTY HAS AN OFFICE OF EVICTION PREVENT, YOU KNOW, A PREVENTION. OFFICE OF HOUSING.

RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT SERVICE OF THE TOWN SHOULD BE PROVIDING BECAUSE I'VE NEVER I'VE ALWAYS BEEN HELPING PEOPLE WITH EVICTIONS. AND I NEVER REFERRED ANYBODY TO CAP, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY ACTUALLY HELPED AND THERE, YOU KNOW, DO THEY GO TO COURT WITH PEOPLE OR WHATEVER? UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE, I FAIL THE FOOD PROGRAM, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO FUND AND I'D LIKE TO SORT OF ITEMIZE.

I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, WHICH IS WHY I ONLY SUBMITTED THE FUNDING FOR FOOD DISTRIBUTION. I DIDN'T TOUCH I DIDN'T TOUCH ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO REFERRAL SERVICES LIKE EVICTION PREVENTION AND STUFF.

LIKE, DO YOU HAVE TO DO. YEAH. THAT IS REFERRED TO THE COUNTY.

OFFICE, BUT THE COST THAT I GAVE YOU IS IN REGARDS TO FOOD DISTRIBUTION. YES. SPECIFICALLY, I.

FEEL LIKE JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY ARE REFERRED, BUT IT'S THAT PERSONAL TOUCH SOMEONE WHEN SOMEONE'S IN THAT KIND OF PERSON WHO THEY'RE GOING TO TALK TO AND FEEL COMFORTABLE TO GIVE THAT THAT'S A PERSON THAT, UH, YOU REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW THEIR THING AND BE ABLE TO POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. OTHERWISE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE LOST SOMETIMES OF WHAT IS. SURE. WELL, YOU.

KNOW WHAT? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S IN COMMUNITY.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU CAN.

DO. APROPOS APROPOS OF THAT IS DEVELOP THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THAT OFFICE. AND MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOMEONE TO COME SPEAK FROM THAT. I ACTUALLY DO COMMUNICATIONS FOR THAT OFFICE. RIGHT? GEORGIA SANTIS.

YES, RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR.

THAT AND THAT WAY. FUND THAT. THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN REGARDS. TO COMFORT.

FOOD DISTRIBUTION. RIGHT, RIGHT.

RIGHT. MARIA.

KATIA, UH, WHO'S OUR HISPANIC LIAISON ALSO HAS HELPED A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WITH EVICTION PREVENTION. AND SHE MEETS WITH WITH PEOPLE. SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

ALSO, UM, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE HARTSDALE KIWANIS CLUB, AND THEY DONATED. THEY'RE DONATING OVER $2,000. UM, UH, THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN HAS, UH, FOOD LIKE BINS OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE HALL. AND, UH, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE KIWANIS CLUB, AND ALSO. WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE BINS HERE. OUTSIDE THE TOWN HALL.

I'M JUST SAYING, DID YOU WANT TO HAVE PUT BINS FOR HERE? YEAH. AND, UH, AND ALSO MAYBE THE LIBRARY. OR IT COULD EVEN BE THE COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE PEOPLE WOULD DROP OFF, LIKE CANNED GOODS, AND THEN YOU COULD TAKE IT, AND THERE'S NO STIGMA. UM, AND IT'S WORKING VERY WELL IN TARRYTOWN. AND.

YEAH, BUT THAT DOESN'T. TAKE THE.

CONSUMER FOOD BANK. YEAH.

IT'S NOT BRINGING IT HERE, ARE YOU? IS THAT ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE KIWANIS THAT IS GOING TO DO IT HERE AND AT GREENBERG TOWN. HALL, THE GREENBERG TOWN HALL? OKAY. BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD TARRYTOWN, I SAW.

TARRYTOWN. YOU HEARD. OH, OKAY. SO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. DORIS, I'M NOT THE ONLY. OKAY.

SO. YEAH, THAT'S IT FOR 73, TEN. UM, AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY TALKING POINT IS ON 7320, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE PART TIME TERRORISM. OH, GOOD. AT THIS POINT, THOUGH, UM, WE SHOULD BE ALSO REACHING OUT TO SEE HOW.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, WE CAN HAVE THAT COLLABORATION THAT IT DOESN'T JUST FALL ON ON US. UM, I HEAR YOU ON THAT. NO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT.

IT IS? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. UM, 7320. THIS LINE USUALLY DOES VERY WELL. WE STAY WITHIN BUDGET AND ALL THAT. THE ONE THING THAT'S VERY HARD TO CONTROL IS OUR LIFEGUARDS. AND THE TIMING OF IT, UM, YOU KNOW THAT THE COST OF LIFEGUARDS HAS GONE UP AND UP AND UP BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET AND KEEP AND ALL THAT. SO, UH, WE ARE PUSHING AN INCREASE

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THEIR, UH, A STRONG INCREASE TO REALLY GET US IN A BETTER, UH, LEVEL SO THAT WE DON'T KEEP GOING OVER BUDGET.

SORRY. WHICH LINE IS IT? THIS IS 73, 251900519.

OKAY. PART TIME. YES. OKAY. SO DOESN'T SPECIFY LIFEGUARDS, BUT THAT'S. WHAT IT IS. YES.

EXACTLY. 90% OF WHAT. IT IS. HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN A CHALLENGE. IS IT MORE CHALLENGING.

NOW, MORE CHALLENGING NOW. BUT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

BUT WHY WHY DO YOU THINK MORE NOW? IT'S A IT'S A STATEWIDE SHORTAGE. BUS DRIVERS AND LIFEGUARDS ARE THE TWO HARDEST POSITIONS TO GET RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY BLESSED TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE IN TO HAVE THAT POOL, BECAUSE NOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WE'VE BEEN GROOMING YOUNG STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED AND WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE WATER, WHO CAN NOW TAKE THESE POSITIONS AND PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, PART TIME WORK AS A LIFEGUARD ALL YEAR ROUND. SO IF YOU'RE A LIFEGUARD LISTENING TO THIS, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU BECAUSE WE NEED YOU. RIGHT? IT BECAME ESPECIALLY PROBLEMATIC DURING COVID, IF I RECALL, AND THEN IT JUST NEVER QUITE RECOVERED. RIGHT. AND IF I CAN PUMP UP OUR AQUATICS PROGRAM, UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO US AS, UH, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE EARLY PROGRAM? UM, MOMMY AND ME SWIM. UM, THEY'RE TOO YOUNG TO SWIM ON THEIR OWN THAT HAVE GONE THAT HAVE GONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO OUR STROKE MECHANICS, UM, THAT ARE NOW ON OUR SWIM TEAM THAT WE WANT TO TURN OVER TO OUR LIFEGUARDS. AND OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, IT'S BEEN WORKING GREAT. WE HAVE A NEW SWIM TEAM CAPTAIN AND ALL THAT. SO IT'S REALLY TURNING OUT WELL. I WAS SAW THEM THE OTHER NIGHT, AND IT WAS JUST GREAT TO SEE HOW MANY THERE WERE AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN WITH US THE WHOLE TIME.

BUT WE'RE STILL GETTING IN NEW PEOPLE.

SO THE INCREASES ARE ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S COMPETITION FOR LIFEGUARDS. OH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE NEED TO ATTRACT THEM HERE. THERE WAS ONE TIME THAT WE WERE QUITE LOW AND EVERYBODY WAS GOING EVERYWHERE ELSE, EVEN IF THEY LIVED IN GREENBERG. SO WE'VE EVEN DO OUR BEST TO TALK TO THE COUNTY WHO COMES IN TO TRAIN LIFEGUARDS. AND LIKE SOME OF THOSE, GOT TO COME HERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE DONE ALL RIGHT. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A THING WHEN IT'S A SUMMER THING, BUT WE WE NEED THEM ALL YEAR LONG. AND THAT'S WHAT WINDS UP GOOD. AND WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM THAT HAS BEEN WITH US FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW. AND I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. WHAT HAPPENS OFTEN WITH THE WITH THE SUMMER? UH, I THEY'RE COLLEGE KIDS. THEY COME HOME, THEY WANT A PARTY. THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL EARLY BEFORE THE SEASON ENDS. SO IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO. PUT OUT THERE. UM, UH, JOEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, UH, GRANTS WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO INCREASE OUR BATHROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ADA COMPLIANCE. ONE THING WITH THE CENTER BEING AN OLD, UM, FACILITY, UM, AS YOU ALL WERE TALKING, DAVE AND I WERE TALKING. WE DO HAVE IN OUR POOL AREA WITH MEN'S AND WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOMS AND ALL THAT. ADA, WHERE SOMEONE CAN GO IN WITH A WHEELCHAIR, IT WILL FIT. THERE ARE SOME OTHERS THAT WILL NOT GO INTO THE STALLS, RIGHT? THOSE BATHROOMS HAVE THREE STALLS. IF WE DID THAT, IT WOULD CUT IT DOWN TO TWO. AND WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GYM AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU NEED TO BECOME KNOWN. SO IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A LITTLE THING. BUT WE ARE WORKING INTO THAT, UH, FOR A GRANT WITH THAT TO SEE WHERE WE CAN GO.

YEAH. WELL, 3 OR.

2, IF YOU HAVE THREE THAT ARE NON-COMPLIANT. YES. THAT'S NO GOOD. YOU NEED AT LEAST TWO. AND IF IT MEANS YOU ONLY HAVE TWO, THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME COMPLIANCE. RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPLIANCE. JUST REALIZE WE DO HAVE TEN, UH, BATHROOMS WITH OUR FACILITY, INCLUDING THE PARK.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD UNDERTAKING THERE. UM, SO.

YEAH, YOU JUST SAID. GREAT.

WOULD BE GREAT. ARCHITECT HAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO. ABSOLUTELY. COME UP WITH.

GOOD. AS WELL.

I THINK. WE'RE GOOD. UH, YES. 86. YEP. I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON A RECORD. THE LIGHTING IN HERE IS TERRIBLE. IT'S MAKING ME LOOK BALD ON THAT SCREEN. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WAS DISCUSSED BY ANYONE.

THAT'S THE LIGHTING. YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY THE LIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. THE LIGHTS. NOTHING TO DO.

NO NO. NO NO. WITH REALITY.

I IT. MAKES ME LOOK GREAT.

I JUST, I JUST LOOK. THERE WE GO A LITTLE BIT I DON'T KNOW MAN. IT'S PRETTY BAD HERE. MY SHINE IS.

A SHARPIE. BACK SHAM. OH, HERE WE GO, MAN. ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE. SUGGESTING.

WHILE YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS WE NEED A NEW TOWN HALL? YEAH. OH, THERE YOU GO. AND LISTEN, YOU REALLY HAVE TO TAKE PITY ON US BECAUSE THE REFLECTION. OH, SORRY.

YES, YES, YES, IT'S SUNGLASSES. YEAH, YEAH.

THIS MUST. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YES. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT, GUYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. DO YOU WANT TO POINT OUT WE ARE RUNNING BEHIND SCHEDULE? RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NO WAY. SIGNIFICANTLY.

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SIGNIFICANTLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU.

FOR A LITTLE TALK. I GOT SOMETHING.

YOU. WE ARE.

NEXT. UH, DO RESCHEDULE.

FOR NEXT. NEXT IS THE..

YOU ALREADY HERE? I'M HERE. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. UM. FRANCIS.

IS IT? I KNOW, I KNOW WHETHER CARRIE IS COMING ON ZOOM OR SHE OR IN PERSON. CAMI.

SHE WERE INTERVIEWING FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW.

UM, BECAUSE WE'RE SO LATE, AND SHE HAS TO. SHE IS A GOOD HOLLY. NO. HI. HOW ARE YOU? AM. I HAVE ANYBODY GOING TO KNOW? IT WOULD BE HER.

I GUESS. WELL, THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S TRUE.

ACTUALLY, I CAN TEXT CAMI MYSELF. RIGHT? IT'S FINE.

SO, UM, ACCORDING TO THE. YOU DIDN'T ASK ME, BUT I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT SHE NEEDS TO LEAVE BY 720. YES.

RIGHT. WHICH IS WHY I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD. RIGHT.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING. YEAH. SHE'S COMING IN. ZOOM.

ZOOM. COME ON. SOON. OKAY.

LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. AT LEAST.

OKAY. WHAT I DON'T YOU WANT TO CHECK? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IS IT? 076654. UM. WE SHOULD. WELL, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? I KNOW NEXT WEEK.

WE COULD ADJOURN AND COME BACK. OH, WE STILL HAVE. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. HOW ARE WE DOING NEXT WEEK? LET ME ASK HER. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO START? SURE. OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON.

NO NO NO. NO.

GOOD AFTERNOON SIR. COME ON.

MICROPHONE. THE MIC. I MIGHT JUST HEAR YOUR VOICE.

YES. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

NO SLEEP. VERY GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON. UM. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? YOU NEED TO SPEAK LOUDER.

YOU MOVED UP. YOU MOVED THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU. AND THEN. EVEN MORE SO.

UM. I'M HERE TO REQUEST, UH. UM, INCREASE IN, UH, PERSONNEL.

UH, THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO TELL YOU IS THE PART TIME JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT TO BE, UH, FULL TIME JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT BECAUSE OF THE FORENSIC REPORT. I DO WANT TO, UH, THE ALL THE IDENTIFIED ISSUES REQUIRING THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN IN ORDER TO, UM, FOR THE COURTS TO IMPLEMENT THOSE CORRECTIVE MEASURES AND MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE GOING FORWARD. IT MUST ALSO PROVIDE WITH THE, UH, SUFFICIENT STAFFING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WORK. FOR THIS REASON, I'M REQUESTING AN.

ADDITIONALLY, ALL THE OTHER CASE MATTERS THAT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED BY THE ACCOUNTANT. UM, I'M REQUESTING THE PART TIME JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT TO, UH, TO BE A FULL TIME JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT.

UM, I'M ALSO ASKING, UH, A REQUESTING, A, UH, INCREASE IN PAY FOR THE COURT ATTENDANT. $10 AN HOUR MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE GETTING CURRENTLY. THEY ARE GETTING PAID FOR $25 AN HOUR.

AND, UM, REQUESTING THE LAST TIME THEY EVER GOT A, UM, INCREASE WAS BACK IN 2021. AND, I'M HUMBLY REQUESTING THAT THAT $10 AN HOUR, UH, INCREASE FOR THE COURT ATTENDANT, THEY ARE ARMED, AND THEY ARE PROTECTING THE COURT STAFF AS WELL AS THE, UH, JUDGES. THE LITIGANTS, DEFENDANTS AND ANYONE WHO COMES THROUGH THE DOOR. THEY ARE THE FOREFRONT OF THE COURT. AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING FOR US TO DO. UM, AND ALSO, I'M RENEWING MY REQUEST TO INCREASE THE COMPENSATION FOR THE JUDGES.

$15, 15,000 PER, UH, INCREASE, $15,000 MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE GETTING PAID NOW. UM, BECAUSE AFTER THE BAIL REFORM, JUDGES ARE DOING MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY USED TO DO USED TO BE A PART TIME JOB, BUT IT'S REALLY A FULL TIME JOB INCREASE TO A FULL TIME JOB. THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF HEARINGS, JURY TRIALS, UH, PRETRIAL HEARINGS. THERE ARE A LOT OF A TIME AND EFFORT PUTTING IT INTO THEIR, UH, IN THEIR JOB TO FULFILL THEIR JOB EACH. DAY.

I KNOW THERE IS A BUDGETARY ISSUE WITH THE TOWN, SO I DO HAVE A PROPOSAL TO COMPENSATE ALL MY REQUESTS. UM, CURRENTLY, I HAVE A TWO. BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, DO YOU WANT TO JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE CAREFULLY ABOUT THE COMPENSATION FOR THE JUDGES, THAT IT'S NOT JUST AN INCREASE, IT'S TO MAKE UP FOR THE DECREASE IN THE BUYOUT, RIGHT? UM, NOT WHAT YOU HAD SAID. YES. THAT'S WHAT THE SUPERVISOR SAID, THAT IN ORDER TO. HE'S REALLY HIDING THE FACT THAT

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THERE WAS A BUYOUT, UH, FOR THE JUDGES, THAT HE WOULD INCREASE THEIR SALARIES INSTEAD OF THEM GETTING A HEALTH CARE BUYOUT.

OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE NEXT IS IS. NO, ACTUALLY, UM, WE'VE COMPARED, UH, THE SALARIES OF OTHER, UH, JUDGES AROUND THE COUNTY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE REAL PURPOSE WAS BASICALLY TO MAKE THE SALARIES OF THE JUDGES MORE, MORE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER JUDGES, YOU KNOW, AROUND. SO IT'S NOT REALLY THE BUYOUT.

IT'S MORE IT'S MORE TO BE COMPETITIVE. AND THEY ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, MORE WORK. SO DID YOU NOT SAY THAT YOU WANTED TO INCREASE OR JUST ASKING A QUESTION? I DON'T WANT TO GET AN ARGUMENT. DID YOU NOT SAY TO THE REST OF US THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PUT WHATEVER THEIR REDUCTION IS IN BUYOUT INTO THEIR SALARY, SO THEY'RE NOT HURT BY US NOT DOING THE BUYOUT? THE THE ISSUE? YOU'RE NOT. ANSWERING THE ISSUE THAT I SAY IS THE VALUE OF EACH OF THE JUDGES. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT. YES. BUT BUT YOU ALSO WITH THE THEN YOU'RE INCREASING THEIR SALARIES. BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO NET BE NET. UM HAVE A LESSER NET THAN THE INCREASE BECAUSE OF. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT. I DON'T KNOW, POTENTIAL BECAUSE OF THAT BUYOUT.

I WANTED TO GO BACK. I'M NOT SURE. ARE YOU STILL ON THE JUDGES? I JUST WANT TO GO BACK REALLY QUICKLY. YEAH, I HAVE PEOPLE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE JUDGES.

DID YOU SEND US TO THIS TO US IN ADVANCE? NO, I DIDN'T.

SEE IT. NO, I DID NOT. I PUT IT TOGETHER AND I BROUGHT IT WITH ME TODAY. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S JUST A LOT TO ABSORB. YEAH. UM, I APOLOGIZE, I WAS I WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT TOGETHER EARLIER, BUT I NEVER.

GOT IT. I WAS A LITTLE SONG. UM.

BRING US TOGETHER WHEN YOU BRING THIS TOGETHER. AS FAR AS THE SALARIES, DO YOU HAVE THE BENCHMARK? BENCHMARK? I. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. CAN YOU PROVIDE THE DATA FOR THE BENCHMARKING, FOR THE INCREASE, FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE $10 INCREASE FOR THE COURT ATTENDANCE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY BENCH SALARY. SO, SO YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE 25. THEY ARE CURRENTLY GETTING PAID 25. GOING RATE ACROSS EACH MUNICIPALITY. NO, JUST IN IN IN IN OUR COURT.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT COMPARABLES THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHAT.

THAT WAS WHEN I LOOKED AT IT DIFFERENT I'M COMPARING IT TO A COUNTY COURT LEVEL. UM, IS THAT A RIGHT BENCHMARK? YEAH, BECAUSE WE ARE OUR, UM, TRAFFIC TO OUR COURT IS SIMILAR TO A COUNTY COURT OR WHITE PLAINS CITY COURT.

WE'RE THE BUSIEST. WE ARE ONE OF THE BUSIEST COURTS IN THE STATE. OKAY. UH, OKAY. YEAH. UM, SO THAT'S A.

UM. YOU PROVIDE US WITH WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT, UH, YOU GAVE TO THE SUPERVISOR, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT COME TO ME AT ALL.

I DID. NOT GET THE $15,000 INCREASE FOR THE JUDGES, WHICH HE SAID IS BASED ON A COMPARISON OF OTHER JUDGES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

I HAVE. I, I ACTUALLY SAID I AM RENEWING MY APPLICATION AGAIN.

I HAVE COME BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE FOR INCREASE FOR THE JUDGES, AND I HAVE REQUESTED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THE JUDGES SHOULD GET INCREASED. UH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT. CORRECT. RIGHT. BUT I'M SUGGESTING I DON'T LET THE SUPERVISOR SAID THAT HE'S NOT DOING IT BECAUSE HE'S TRYING TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR ANY LOSS AND BUY OUT BECAUSE OF THE BAIL POLICY THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL PASSED. THAT TAKES EFFECT IN. THE INSURANCE.

OKAY. HE SAID. INSTEAD, IT WAS BECAUSE OF A COMPARISON WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT THEY GET PAID. AND I'M ASKING WANTS TO SEE YOU HAVE THAT. WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL EMAIL IT TO ALL THREE JUDGES. I MEAN, EVERYONE I MEANT THE TOWN BOARD WITH THE COMPARISON. UM, I WILL BRING IN SOME OF THE FEW TOP, UH, COURT, UM, JUDGES. YOU KNOW.

I THINK THAT THAT JUST WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE CLEAR ON IS NOW, UM, NOW THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE BUYOUT THAT THAT WAS PROBLEMATIC FOR THE JUDGES..

THE REDUCTION. THE REDUCTION BECAUSE IT WAS CUTTING INTO THEIR COMPENSATION. SO EVEN WITH A $15,000 INCREASE PER THE INCREASE WILL ACTUALLY NET OUT LESS BECAUSE OF THAT BUYOUT OPTION. SO THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THOSE NUMBERS. BUT IT AFFECTS ALL WHAT WE PASSED. ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS. THIS IS.

FOR THE SUPERVISOR IS CARVING OUT THE JUDGES.

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I, I'M I'M GETTING CONFUSED WITH THE INSURANCE VERSUS JUDGES GETTING COMPENSATION. UM, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT. SO I HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE AS TO WHAT I NEED TO BRING IT TO THE TOWN BOARD. WELL, YOU WANT TO SHOW THE COMPARISON WITH OUR JUDGES CURRENT SALARIES.

WITH THE OTHERS? YES. AND THAT'S INCLUDES, I GUESS, FULL COMPENSATION, WHICH WOULD MEAN ANY ADDITIONAL, LIKE A WHATEVER. BUT IT'S HARD TO MAKE THAT COMPARISON BECAUSE LET'S SAY THE JUDGES TOOK THE INSURANCE. SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, $40,000. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REALLY WEIGH THAT. IN ANY CASE, THE JUDGES, THEY HAVE SPECIFIC SITUATIONS.

SOME OF THEM TAKE THE BUYOUT, MAYBE SOME SOME DON'T. RIGHT.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY DID GET A THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN THEIR TOTAL COMPENSATION. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GREENBURG JUDGES REDUCTION OKAY. YEAH OKAY. YES OKAY. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPARING SALARIES OVERALL I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN IS SAYING, JUST TO SEE THAT OVERALL COMPARISON. SO WE SEE WHERE OUR JUDGES ARE. DEFINITELY THAT.

YEAH. RIGHT. BECAUSE REMEMBER, YOU MAY REMEMBER BACK EARLIER THIS IN THE SUMMER, THE SPRING SUMMER WE HAD MAJOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT INSURANCE AND THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN TAKING THE INSURANCE THAT THE TOWN OFFERED OR ACCEPTING A BUYOUT IN LIEU OF THAT. AND THAT AFFECTS THE JUDGES COMPENSATION NEGATIVELY. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE TO FACTOR THAT IN. THEY WILL GET A NET INCREASE FOR SURE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE GROSS INCREASE OF $15,000.

SO WE WERE JUST LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THAT.

NUMBER IS. I JUST. WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE.

IS ADOPTED. I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME COURT CASES, UM, IN THE STATE, WHICH INDICATES THAT, UH, IN NEW YORK STATE, UH, A MUNICIPAL BOARD CANNOT REDUCE THE SALARY OF JUSTICES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TERM. I'LL MENTION KENNEDY'S VERSUS TOWN OF FAYETTE. THE APPELLATE DIVISION HELD THAT REDUCING A TOWN JUSTICE SALARY OF JUSTICES TERMS, UH, INTERFERES WITH THE JUDICIAL INDEPENDENCE. UM, THERE'S ANOTHER CASE IN 2007, THE COURTS HAVE REAFFIRMED THE PROTECTION AGAINST MID-TERM SALARY REDUCTIONS FOR ONLY. YOU KNOW.

SALARY REDUCTIONS ARE. BEING PROPOSED. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT SALARY. SALARY? DOES THE WORD KEYWORD ON A SALARY. OKAY.

WELL. UH, IT'S THE COMPENSATION. IT'S A. COMPENSATION ON THE THAT YOU COULD DO IT FOR A FUTURE TERM, BUT, UM, THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT, BUT I'M SAYING.

THE WORD OF THE LAW. IS A SALARY.

YEAH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING. YES. I THINK THAT IN CASE LAW THAT YOU HAVE, I'M NOT FAMILIAR. WITH IT. THERE'S AT LEAST THREE, UH, 2 OR 3. UH. HOW DOES THAT APPLY HERE? I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING.

YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU JUDGE US OUT. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT IS WHAT THE APPLICATION DID THAT BY BY REDUCING BY BEING THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT A REDUCTION IN THE BUYOUT STARTING IN JANUARY. WHAT HE'S SAYING YES, I KNOW. SO THAT'S WHERE EXACTLY IS HE TALKING ABOUT COMPENSATION OR SALARY. THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS.

WELL YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAVEN'T EVEN PROPOSED A BUDGET RIGHT NOW. SO THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET IS NOT GOING TO BE PROPOSED UNTIL NEXT WEEK. SO THIS IS ALL, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LET'S SEE WHAT THE BUDGET.

TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING. BUT I.

I WILL I DO HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A SOLUTION FOR EVERYTHING, BUT I DO HAVE SOME SOLUTION TO MY REQUEST. OKAY.

UM, I CURRENTLY COURT HAS TWO COURT CLERK POSITION. UM, I ONLY HAVE ONE POSITION. FILLED. OTHER ONE IS STILL VACANT.

SINCE 2021, I'VE BEEN DOING THAT JOB SINCE THEN. SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN SAVING THAT SALARY ALL THESE YEARS.

IS THAT SALARY? UM, I BELIEVE IT'S 80 OR $85,000. THEN FROM THE PART TIME POSITION FROM THE JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TO THAT, TO THIS 80 OR $85,000 PLUS TO 25,000. AND I HAVE DECREASED.

PLUS BENEFITS. PLUS BENEFITS. YEAH. YES, I HAVE DECREASED. I HAVE UH, I HAVE DECREASED, UH, PROFESSIONAL FREE COUNSEL CONSULTING TO 50,000 TO, UH, I MEANT. NO.

YEAH. DO YOU HAVE YOUR SPREADSHEET? YEAH. SO MAYBE. WE. YEAH. I'M SO SORRY.

YOU WEREN'T GIVEN. THIS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. LET ME JUST PULL IT OUT.

IT'S ABOUT. TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN.

YEAH? YEAH. OKAY, SO.

THE PROVISIONAL. LET'S GO.. PROVISIONAL FEE COLLECTION.

I HAVE. ADDITIONAL FEE. PROFESSIONAL ITEM IS THE. UH, 11105454 5554. IT'S ABOUT

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TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

UH, THE FEES COLLECTION, IT'S DECREASED FROM 50 TO, UH, 90 TO 50,000. YEAH. SO IF WE TAKE ALL OF THAT MONEY AND PUT IT TOWARDS TO MY PROPOSAL. SO I AM WORKING WITHIN MY BUDGET. I'M NOT, UH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTING TOO MUCH ON THE LINE.

YES, THAT'S MY PROPOSAL. TO HAVE COMPENSATE.

TO COMPENSATE EVERYONE. WE DON'T SEE.

WHAT. OH, I'M.

SORRY. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES? UH, NO. PROFESSIONAL FEE COLLECTION. SHOULD ALWAYS BE ON THE FIRST PAGE. OH, YOU ON PAGE ONE? NOT ON PAGE ONE.

OKAY. YEAH.

PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES 554500.

SEE, WAS 90,000. SO IT WAS 90,000.

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

I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF REPORTS, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN HOW MUCH SHOULD WE HAVE COLLECTED? HOW MUCH DID WE COLLECT? I WILL HOW MUCH WE'RE LOSING IN THAT COLLECTION PROCESS AND DO IT BY YEAR. I WILL, I WILL DO A, YOU KNOW, BETTER ANALYSIS AND AND SEND. EVERYONE AGAIN. YOU KNOW, I'VE SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I SAID THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD HIRE THE SAME FORENSIC AUDIT COMPANY TO REVIEW THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE.

UM, ON THE FORENSIC AUDIT, WHICH BOARD MEMBERS MADE A WHOLE BIG THING FOR A BIG PORTION OF THIS YEAR. AND THEN THAT COMPANY, UH, SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DID A GREAT JOB OF CORRECTING EVERYTHING, OR WE DIDN'T CORRECT EVERYTHING. AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT STILL HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT. AND I, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE TOWN BOARD WON'T HIRE THE SAME FIRM, UH, THAT THAT WE USED AND BASICALLY ASK THEM TO DO, UM, GIVE THE PUBLIC A PROGRESS REPORT BECAUSE THE FORENSIC REPORT WAS NOT A POLITICAL TOOL, AND WE REALLY DOING IT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO IMPROVE THE TOWN, THEN WE SHOULD FIND OUT FROM THAT INDEPENDENT SOURCE, UH, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, WE DID A GREAT JOB OF, UM, ADDRESSING, UM, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF THEY DID A GREAT JOB, WE CORRECTED AND IT'S INDEPENDENT. IT'S NOT US SAYING WE DID A GREAT JOB. I THINK THAT WILL REASSURE PEOPLE THAT THE FORENSIC REPORT REALLY HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, GREAT VALUE. AND IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WE DIDN'T DO EVERYTHING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT. AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE BOARD WHO WANTED WHO AGREED TO WHO WANTED AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE FORENSIC REPORT.

OKAY. SO TO START WITH, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE FORENSIC REPORT IN THE FIRST PLACE. I WANT TO I.

WANTED TO BE. UH, LET ME FINISH. YOU DID NOT WANT TO DO THE FORENSIC REPORT IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU USED EVERY PROCEDURAL STORE TACTIC POSSIBLE, WHICH WOUND UP HAVING TO COME OUT RIGHT BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY AND ELECTION SEASON OR WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO CALL IT. BUT YOUR DELAY TACTICS BROUGHT IT TO THAT POSITION. THERE'S NOTHING.

THERE'S NOTHING POLITICAL. UH, REGARDING US NOT COLLECTING $29 MILLION IN BACK TAXES. IT'S A FACT. THE FORENSIC REPORT HAD GREAT VALUE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T SAY. OH, THE TOWN COUNCIL. THAT JUST BEING DOOM AND GLOOM AGAIN, IT WAS AN INDEPENDENT COMPANY, HIGHLY RESPECTED, THAT SAID THAT WE HAVE 29 POINT UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER $29.6 MILLION.

IN OUTSTANDING PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE NOT COLLECTED. AND THEREFORE EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER, PROPERTY TAXPAYER IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG PAYS MORE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO COVER THAT SHORTFALL. AND YOU WANT TO HIRE THAT SAME

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INDEPENDENT FORENSIC FIRM TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. I HAVEN'T CHECKED THE MOST RECENT NUMBER. MAYBE SHERI CAN, BUT IT WAS AT LEAST $34.5 MILLION IN MAY OR JUNE.

SO TO ASK A COMPANY AND PAY A COMPANY, SAY, TELL US WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB WHEN WE HAVE MORE UNCOLLECTED PROPERTY TAXES THAN WE DID WHEN THE FORENSIC REPORT CAME OUT. I DON'T NEED THAT. I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE REST OF THE BOARD NEEDS THAT. YOU SAY APPARENTLY DO, BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. THEY ALSO, BECAUSE.

WE'RE CLAIMING WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON A FORENSIC REPORT THAT CAME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I LIKE THE PUBLIC TO HEAR FROM THAT SAME FIRM A YEAR AFTER.

I THINK THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM WHY A NEW IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE COURT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE THOSE THINGS OUT. AND IF SHERRY HAS ANY, UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN SHED LIGHT ON IN TERMS OF HOW THE COURT HAS RESPONDED TO THE ITEMS IN THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF COLLECTION AND ALL THAT, UM, AND FEEL FREE TO SHARE THAT.

I DON'T. I DON'T.

AT THIS MOMENT MOMENT. I DON'T HAVE ANY THING.

SO THEN WE'LL SO THEN IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW IF YOU REDISTRIBUTED WHATEVER YOU HAD HAD. AND UM, YOU KNOW.

OH. I.

WILL. I WILL TURN IT BACK.

YEAH. YEAH. I'M SURE. WE CAN DO.

A FOLLOW UP. YEAH. AND YEAH, I'LL FIRST I'LL SEND THE SALARY COMPARISON FOR THE JUDGES FOR THE, UH, BUDGETARY REASONS. THEN I'LL WORK ON THE OTHER ONE AND SEND IT TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYONE'S TIME AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

UM. WE'RE A TOWN CLERK. CERTAIN CORPORATE. I'LL BE RIGHT.

BACK. OH, YEAH. SURE. UM.

THE ONLY INCREASES, UM. THAT ARE. EXCUSE ME. SIGNIFICANT.

ARE, UM. OF COURSE, THE, UH, PART TIME LINE. UH, WHEN I HAD CHECKED THE. STEPS FOR THE COUNTY, UH, WE WERE UNDERPAYING OUR, UM, INTERMEDIATE CLERK. SO THAT'S WHY THERE WAS SUCH A LARGE JUMP, UH, FOR THE PART FOR THE PART TIME WORK. THOSE.

THAT'S FOR MY INTERMEDIATE CLERK.

SO SHE WAS HIRED AT THE. HE OR SHE WAS HIRED AT THE LOWER RATE. IS THAT CORRECT? SO WAS THAT REASON WHY IT WASN'T HIRED ON. RIGHT. UM. THAT WAS THAT WAS ORIGINALLY A PART TIME POSITION. AND THEN, UH, DOING FURTHER RESEARCH WHEN I HIRED FROM THE LIST, THERE, THERE, UM, THEIR, THEIR SALARY WAS, UM, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE STEPS FROM THE COUNTY, IT WAS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HIRED THEM AT IT.

OKAY. SO YOU HIRED THIS PERSON AT A PART TIME LEVEL, AND I JUST WANT TO BE. I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING. SO JUST JUST LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT THE PERSON YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UM, YOU HIRED AT A PART TIME LEVEL, AND THEN YOU REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU HIRE THEM, YOU HIRE THEM STEPS BENEATH EVERYONE ELSE.

THE PER PER HOUR WAS INCORRECT. SO THAT'S WHY IT INCREASED.

BUT THERE'S STILL PART TIME. YES, YES YES YES OKAY.

SO IT'S JUST AN INCREASE IN SALARY TO BE COMPARABLE WITH WHAT THE HIGHER HOURLY RATE. CORRECT. HOURLY RATE IS.

OKAY. YES.

HOW MANY HOURS DO. THEY WORK? UH, ONE WORKS 21. THE OTHER ONE WORKS 14.

WHAT IS THE CHANGE IN THE HOURLY.

RATE FROM $25 AN HOUR TO $32 PER HOUR.

AND THAT'S COMPARED TO. WHAT.

UH, COMPARED TO I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, IT WAS STEPS WAY BELOW, UM, LIKE, UM, IT WAS LIKE MAYBE A STEP ONE INSTEAD

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OF, LIKE A STEP FOUR. UM. AND IT WAS BASED ON OUR, OUR SALARY SCHEDULE, OUR SALARY RANGE SCHEDULE. CORRECT. SO I'M CONFUSED NOW. SO IS IT THE COUNTY SALARY RANGES OR OUR SALARY RANGES BECAUSE WE DON'T SHARE THE SAME SALARY RANGES, RIGHT. THEY'RE DIFFERENT. SO WE PAY THEM BELOW OUR SALARY RANGE. IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT OKAY. YOU MENTIONED THE COUNTY.

THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE WE I HAD TO GO FROM THE COUNTY LIST TO, UH, TO GET OUR, UM, OUR, OUR CLERK. SO, SO IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF HIRING AT THE CORRECT STEP AND THEN HAVING THE SALARY COMMENSURATE WITH THE STEP. CORRECT. WHICH THE FIRST BEING THE COUNTY STEPS AND THE SECOND BEING THE SALARIES THAT WE ASSOCIATE WITH THE STEPS IN THIS TOWN..

WHEN THE COUNTY CAME IN, I KNEW I WASN'T GOING CRAZY.

NO NO. NO NO NO. I YEAH, I'M ASKING SAW YOU BASED ON THE COUNTY SALARY RANGES. ARE YOU BASED ON THE TOWN SALARY RANGES. SURE. SO THE HIRED AT THE, UM, TOWN, BUT THE COUNTY WAS HIGHER. WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STEPS THAT ARE THE UNION STEPS. THE CSA STEPS. OKAY, THERE WE GO. NOW, NOW, NOW IT'S DIFFERENT. NOW IT'S COMING. GOT IT? OKAY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY STEPS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACTUAL STEPS. AND THE CSA CONTRACT. IS THAT WHAT STEPS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S PART TIME OKAY. DON'T GET STEPS BUT INCREASES.

SO SO SO AGAIN THAT BECAUSE I HIRED FROM THE LIST.

SO FROM THE COUNTY THE LIST THAT THE COUNTY SUPPLIED.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S NOT TO DO THEIR COUNTY SALARIES THAT HAVE TO DO WITHOUT SALARIES. THEY'RE JUST RIGHT. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EITHER. NO NO NO. SO UM, MADAM DEPUTY WHEN WHEN I HIRE FROM THE LIST, I HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE STEPS.

NO, YOU HAVE TO FILE GREENBURG STEPS. WHY WOULD YOU FOLLOW THE COUNTY STEPS? YOU OKAY? THE THE STEPS ARE YOU'RE SAYING THAT PART TIME DOES NOT HAVE TO. BUT IF IF THE POSITION IS PART TIME. INTERMEDIATE CLERK. I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE GREENBURG STEPS. BUT I HIRED FROM THE COUNTY LIST.

YES. DID I SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I'M SORRY. YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. YOU SAID MUCH IN THE COUNTY'S SALARY LINES. I HEARD THAT OKAY. I'M NOT. YEAH. SO WE ALL. WELL, WHEN I'M SAYING SALARY, WHEN I, WHEN I SAY SALARY, I'M SAYING THE THE COUNTY LIST. SO YOU'RE HIRED FROM THE COUNTY LIST, RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE HIRING. BUT WHEN YOU THE SALARIES ARE BASED ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG SALARY RANGES.

CORRECT. OKAY. YES. SO SO YOU SAID SO YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU HIRED, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BEING LESS THAN WHAT THE COUNTY WAS? THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M THROWING OFF AT. IT., BECAUSE WHEN, UM, WHEN I HIRED THEM AT 25. BASED ON THE GREENBURG STEPS.

CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY.

THEN ONCE I HIRED FROM THE LIST. SO ORIGINALLY WHEN I, WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY WERE AT THAT THAT RANGE. THEN WHEN I HIRED THEM FROM THE LIST BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEBODY THERE OR THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO POSITIONS. I CHANGED IT SO THAT IT WAS NOT THE 17.5 HOURS. SO ONCE I CHANGED THE HOURS AND I HIRED THE PERSON FROM THE COUNTY LIST, THE PERSON THERE WAS ONLY MAKING $25 AN HOUR WHEN I HIRED THEM FROM THE LIST. I HAD TO CHANGE IT TO THE STEPS, WHICH MADE IT $32.

AN HOUR PART TIME DOESN'T GET STEPS, ACCORDING TO SHERRY, IF I'M HEARING THAT CORRECTLY. SO. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD BY HR, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD BY OUR REP AT FRANK AT THE COUNTY. SO THAT THAT'S AND THAT'S FROM THE COUNTY. SO OKAY. OKAY.

BUT THAT EXPLAINS THE GO AHEAD. THIS IS PROPOSED. THIS IS OKAY.

SO 49 OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY.

AND IN TERMS OF THE CONFERENCES, UH, YEAH, IT'S BEEN SKYROCKETING. IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, IN RECENT IN RECENT YEARS. CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THE CONFERENCES WERE AND WHAT CONFERENCES, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR IT WAS FIVE OVER $5,000.

AND AND, YOU KNOW, IN CONFERENCES, WHICH IS MUCH MORE THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE CONFERENCES WERE. AND, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WHICH ORGANIZATIONS YOU, YOU WENT TO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT. EXCESSIVE FOR.

WHO. YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULD HAVE LIKED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD JUST TELL US WHERE THE LOCATIONS

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WERE. YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THAT HAVE THE CONFERENCES AND WHO. WENT.

OH, OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU VOTED.

NO, BUT. AND THERE WERE RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE PASSED BY THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR EACH AND EVERY CONFERENCE THAT I ATTENDED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON RECORD.

JUST TELL US, UH. YOU MEAN REMIND YOU OF WHAT YOU VOTED ON? YEAH, SURE.

NO PROBLEM. UM, UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS.

THAT WAS IN, UM, MANHATTAN. THE OTHER ONE IS THE TOWN CLERK ASSOCIATION, AND THAT WAS IN ALBANY. THE THIRD ONE WAS THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS LEGISLATIVE UM INITIATIVE. AND THAT WAS ALSO IN ALBANY. AND WHY WOULD IT BE $5,000 FOR THREE, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE CONFERENCES? THOSE ARE THE COST OF THE CONFERENCES. THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE PAID WERE BASED ON THE COMPTROLLER'S, UM, THE COMPTROLLER'S UH, DESIGNATION FOR CONFERENCES AND REIMBURSEMENT. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STATE COMPTROLLER. STATE AND NEW YORK STATE COMPTROLLER, UH, COMPTROLLER. DINAPOLI.

YOU SHOULD JUMP IN HERE.. YEAH. AND, UH, AND REGARDING REPRESENTING THE BOARD BY A RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED.

SO LISA WATTS. OKAY, SO TOWN CLERK, WHAT'S WHAT'S ALL AND WHAT'S ALL INCLUSIVE IS THAT IT'S SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF THE THE COST OF THE, UM, THE CONFERENCE AND WHAT ELSE? TRANSPORTATION. AND, UM, UH.

UH. FOOD. NO, NO, NOT EVEN FOOD.

FOOD AND LODGING, BECAUSE THAT'S.

THE FOOD AND LODGING. LODGING. THANK YOU. THAT'S HOW I, I COULDN'T THINK OF LODGING. THAT'S MY. DOES THIS WORK OKAY.

YES. BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME A LOT OF MONEY FOR THREE CONFERENCES. IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY VERY CHEAP. SAY THAT AGAIN.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONFERENCE YOU ATTENDED.

I DIDN'T ATTEND IT. RIGHT. AND I'M ALSO AND ALSO THIS IS STAFF DEVELOPMENT FOR MY DEPUTY. AND ALSO WHAT'S NOT IN THE NUMBERS IS THAT I EAT HALF OF THE COST.

UM, WAIT, SO SO YOU SAID STAFF TO DEVELOPMENT FOR YOUR DEPUTY.

PERHAPS THE DEPUTY WAS NOT INCLUDED IN PREVIOUS, UM, WITH THE PREVIOUS CLERK. NEVER INCLUDED.

RIGHT. SO YOU BRING THE CITY. SO THE DEPUTY TO ALL OF THE CONFERENCES? ABSOLUTELY. WELL, NOT THE AOT, BUT TO, UH, BOTH, UH, REGIONAL AND, UM, UH, REGIONAL AND LOCAL CONFERENCE FOR, UH, TOWN CLERK ASSOCIATION IN NEW YORK STATE.

TOWN CLERK ASSOCIATION. SO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, ARE THERE ANY THAT YOU COULD CUT FROM YOUR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU REALLY GETTING THE BENEFIT OF IT.

, FULLY GETTING THE BENEFIT? BECAUSE AGAIN, UM, WITH AOT TOWN OF GREENBURG WAS NEVER REPRESENTED? NO, I AGREE THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. OKAY, OKAY.

BUT AS FAR AS TOWN CLERK, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THE AND YOU FEEL THAT THE THE DEPUTY BENEFITS OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY AT LEAST IN ONE CASE OF YOUR RELAYING THE INFORMATION TO THE DEPUTY AFTER. IS THAT POSSIBLE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT INFORMATION THERE IS.

WE RELAY IT TO OUR STAFF. UM, BUT IT'S IT'S REALLY IMPERATIVE FOR US BOTH TO BE THERE. UM, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DONE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT THIS IS STAFF DEVELOPMENT AND, AND AND AS FAR AS, UM, INVESTING IN, IN STAFF AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, I PRICELESS, LIKE I SAID, HALF OF THE HALF OF THE COST I EAT.

BUT I JUST DISAGREE. BUT THAT'S FINE.

BUT BUT THERE IS AN EXPLANATION THERE SUPERVISOR THAT BECAUSE.

NOW. CONSISTENT WITH MY VIEWS ON THIS. RIGHT. BUT NO, YOU ARE, EXCEPT THAT THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL PERSON GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THE TRAINING. SO THAT REALLY ACCOUNTS PROBABLY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE DIFFERENTIAL, WHICH I'M NOT OBJECTING TO, BUT JUST BEING CLEAR THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER BACKUP THAT NECESSARY. RIGHT. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I HAD WITH THE BUDGET WAS THE SUNDRY, WHICH IS THE PETTY CASH ONE FROM $274.11 TO $1000. UM, AND UM, UM, AND $1,000. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE $1,000 IN PETTY CASH. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IN THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I THINK PRACTICALLY. WHAT DO YOU USE THE PETTY CASH.

FOR? THE PETTY CASH IS STILL THERE.

THAT. YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU USE THE PETTY CASH FOR? WHAT ITEMS DO YOU USE FOR PETTY CASH? THEN WHY DO WE NEED A THOUSAND? THEN WHY DO WE NEED $1,000 FOR

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SUNDRY.? SO SUNDRY IS NOT PETTY CASH.

SO WHAT SUNDRY. FOR OKAY. SUNDRY IS FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT MAY BE FOR, UH, EVENTS. IT MAY BE FOR, UM. UH. WHEN YOU SAY EVENTS LIKE, CAN YOU JUST BE MORE EXPLICIT ON WHAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY EVENTS, LIKE WHAT TYPE OF EVENTS ARE THE SUNDRY IS COVERING? UH, SURE. SO DURING THE, UH, HISPANIC, UM, UH, THE HISPANIC CELEBRATION. RIGHT. AND THERE THOSE AND ALSO BLACK HISTORY, THE THOSE AWARDS THAT, THAT, UM, UH, THE AWARDS THAT WERE GIVEN OUT, UH, FOR THE BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM, THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT IT'S USED FOR. BY THE.

AWARDS FROM THE CLERK'S. OFFICE TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, BE GIVING OUT AWARDS WHEN WE COULD GIVE A PROCLAMATION FOR FREE. UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL THAT. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO.

ME, THAT'S A WASTE OF MONEY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY. BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A YEAR IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD. WE GIVE OUR PROCLAMATIONS. IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING. IT COSTS VERY LITTLE.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WHEN WE HAVE THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN CLERK, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN EVENT AND THEY DON'T NEED A LITTLE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO. LOOK FOR IT.

I DO THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO INVEST IN THE REALLY NICE FOLDERS, THE GREEN FOLDERS THAT YOU USE FOR THE CERTIFICATES. I WISH WE HAD THOSE ALSO FOR, UM, OUR OFFICE TO USE. AND ALSO, IF WE HAD THEM FOR THE PROCLAMATIONS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD INVESTMENT. ACTUALLY, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE I MEAN, IT'S LOVELY TO GIVE LITTLE MEMENTOS.

I DON'T SURE THAT THAT'S NECESSARY.

RIGHT. BUT THIS IS ALL OFFSET BY THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT MY OFFICE BRINGS IN WITH FILMING FEES. WELL, OKAY, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT, THOUGH. HONESTLY, WE'RE TRYING TO CUT. WE'RE TRYING TO CUT WHERE WE CAN. RIGHT. IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN THE FEES, BUT THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE WELL, THAT'S YOUR OFFICE IS DOING WHAT IT SHOULD. THAT'S GREAT. UM, THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BALANCE THAT. WE WANT TO REAP THE BENEFIT OF THAT SAVINGS AND THAT INCREASED REVENUE.

AND $1,000 OFF OF 100,000. JUST SO. OKAY.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PRINCIPLE OF IT. I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT FROM THE AMOUNT. ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY. AND IT'S A. IT'S DEFINITELY MORE THAN ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT IN FOR FILMING.

AND YEAH, YOU THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD CATCH ON YOUR PART THAT WE WERE NOT. OUR FEES WERE NOT COMPARABLE. AND AFTER YOU ADVISED US TO RAISE THEM, WE DID, WHICH IS GREAT CONSIDERING THAT EXPENSES ARE GOING UP FOR THE TOWN. AND THAT HELPS. UM, THAT HELPS THE TOWN. I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S IT HELPS THE TOWN. IT'S NOT REALLY THE PURVIEW, YOU KNOW, THAT OF OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE ONLY EVEN THOUGH YOU DID THAT. SO WHATEVER, WHATEVER SAVINGS AND WHATEVER EXPENDITURES ARE TOWN WIDE OR A BUDGET OR BE BUDGET, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT FRAME. ABSOLUTELY.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND NOT CHIP AWAY NECESSARILY BECAUSE WE CAN BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE INCREASE ISN'T THAT MUCH, BUT IT'S JUST SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING. TO THINK ABOUT.

WHEN I SPOKE TO THE COMPTROLLER. YOU KNOW, KIMBERLY, YOU KNOW, SHE INDICATED THAT A BUDGET HAS MORE PROBLEMS THAN THE B BUDGET IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, CUTS. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR THINGS THAT ARE UNNECESSARY. AND I THINK THE SUNDRY LINE IS, YOU KNOW, THE PORTION THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN IS UNNECESSARY. YOU KNOW, I AGAIN, THIS IS YOUR REQUEST, BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO COME UP WITH MY BUDGET. SO THE BUDGET THAT I COME IN WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY REQUEST THAT'S MADE. AND WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH CUTS IN EACH OF THE PROPOSED BUDGETS. SO CAN I. OKAY. SO, UM, I SEE THAT YOU YOU TOOK OUT THE LINE FOR STATIONERY AND PRINTING.

YOU'RE NOT PUTTING ANY FUNDS IN THAT. IS THAT GOING? IS THAT MONEY GOING SOMEPLACE ELSE? UM, IT SAYS ZERO BEFORE YOU PASS THE LINE IN IT. NO, THAT'S WHERE THAT CUT CAME IN. BECAUSE, UH, THAT, UM, IT I'M, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WAS MOVED TO ANOTHER LINE. UM.

STATIONERY AND PRINTING WAS MOVED TO ANOTHER LINE.

YEAH. UM, BECAUSE THE. MAYBE SUNDRY..

NO. THAT IS FUNNY.

IT MIGHT BE LIKE PAUL DOES IS, UH, CENTRAL SERVICES. SO IT

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DOESN'T BECOME PART OF HER BUDGET.

OKAY. WHICH IS. BUT WE ASKED KIMBERLY TO GIVE US THE CONTROLLER TO GIVE US A WHO'S WHO'S ACTUALLY USING THE CENTRAL SERVICES BUDGET.

OKAY, OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE I HAVE.

OH. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE I HAVE DOWN. LOOKS LIKE SERVICE CONTRACTS. YES.

OH. AND IF SO, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU ALL.

OF THEM. OKAY. SO I'M LOOKING AT YOUR DATE RIGHT NOW. WHEN THIS WAS PRINTED, YOU HAD YOU SPENT 2000, 2569, RIGHT? YOU ASKED FOR 44. MHM. WAIT, YOU ASKED FOR AM I LOOKING AT THE RIGHT. YEAH. THAT DOESN'T MAKE. YES. LAST YEAR CONTRACTS. SO LAST YEAR SHE ASKED FOR 44. THIS YEAR TO DATE YOU SPEND 2500 AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 40. SO DO WE EXPECT FOR ANOTHER 40,000 OR ANOTHER 35,000. YES. AND AND WHAT IS THAT LIKE WHAT CONTRACTS ARE THOSE. ARE THOSE THE END OF YEAR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS? LASER. YES. LASER FISH BASS SYSTEM, WHICH IS MY WHOLE, UH, LICENSE SYSTEM. UM, AGENDA QUICK AND ARCHIVAL SYSTEMS. AND THAT'S OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO HOW ARE THEY? HOW ARE THEY INVOICE? ARE THEY INVOICE ONE TIME, ONE YEAR? ONE TIME A YEAR? UM, IT IT VARIES BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE SHARING THIS EXPENSE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

SO, SO INVOICES, MAINTENANCE FEES COULD HAVE ALREADY COME IN BUT THEY JUST DIDN'T HIT YOUR PARTICULAR PART. CORRECT.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE 745 INTERVIEW ANYMORE.

YEAH. MUST BE A ZOOM. I THOUGHT WE WERE CANCELING THAT. I THOUGHT. I SAID WE DON'T HAVE IT.

ANYMORE. ARE YOU SAYING WE DON'T HAVE.

WE DO NOT. SHE HAD TO. SHE HAD ONCE.

OH, OKAY. OKAY. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. SO. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. WE HAVE THE ASSESSOR. NEXT.

ARE YOU.. HI. HI.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

SO YOU'RE. ON OUR WAY. AND IS EVERYBODY.

IS THIS A DIFFERENT ONE THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT? UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE. SORRY. IS IT BECAUSE WE MADE SOME REVISIONS? SHOULD IT BE THE SAME FROM YESTERDAY? THIS DOESN'T HAVE PRETTY YELLOW ON IT, THOUGH. WHAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT. KIMBERLY. THIS IS PRETTY YELLOW. YELLOW? THANK YOU. YES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'M NOT SURE.

ARE THE BOTTOM POINTS THE SAME? HOPEFULLY. YES. PINK.

NOT EXACTLY. NO. UH, JUST MAKE SURE THEY GET THEM FIRST. IF THERE'S AN EXTRA TAPE. THANKS.

SO THANK. YOU.

WELL, THEN DEFINITELY THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS DIFFERENT.

YEAH. HOLLY PRINTS OUT. WHATEVER THE DEPARTMENT.

SENDS. KIMBERLY SENDS HER OR WHAT? THE DEPARTMENT SENDS. KIMBERLY GAVE US STANDARDIZED THINGS, BUT I GUESS EACH DEPARTMENT IS DOING THEIR OWN THING AS WELL. DO THESE CORRELATE IN ANY WAY THEY SHOULD. UM, SO THIS IS WHAT WAS ENTERED IN MUNIS. THAT'S. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S.

YEAH. IT'S DIFFERENT. THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT.

NUMBERS ARE DEFINITELY DIFFERENT. WELL, THE FIRST LINE, I'M SURE ALL OF US LOOKED AT THE FIRST LINE, AND THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT WE PICKED UP THAT IS DIFFERENT.

OKAY. SO THE SALARY LINE. YES. FOR A PROPOSED. YES. WHAT DO YOU SEE? CHARI. BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHETHER WE WERE SUPPOSED TO. YEARS AND YEARS.

SO HERE'S A COPY OF WHAT WE RECEIVED. SO MAYBE THAT'LL HELP. YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU.

CAN I SHARE YOUR COPY? THIS ONE? NO NO, NO. I GAVE HER THIS SO SHE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT WAS GIVEN. SO NOW YOU CAN SEE WHY IT WAS. YES. SO THIS. IS I. I DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

SO THIS IS THIS IS INCORRECT. WHICH IS THIS? WHICH IS THIS THE SHEET THAT WE GOT FROM HOLLY? IS MY SHEETS CORRECT? YOUR SHEETS. CORRECT.

SO HAS THIS BEEN ENTERED INTO THE TO THE TO THE BUDGET. IT HAS. SO, SHERRY, YOU SEE THIS IN YOUR SYSTEM. THE NEWEST. THE SHEET THAT WAS GIVEN. TO US.

THESE NUMBERS GET GENERATED. FROM 887 TO 914. GIVEN TO YOU.

I'M SORRY, JOHN, YOU HAVE THAT. YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN YOUR SYSTEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. MM. HOLD ON. SO I THINK WE'LL BE HELPFUL TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ALL HAVE

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DIFFERENT WAYS THAN DISPLAYING OUR DATA. THE DATA. BUT YOU PROBABLY SHOULD MEET WITH THE CONTROLLER BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING TWO SETS OF NUMBERS HERE. SO IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. SO MAYBE BEFORE YOU MEET WITH US THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. I THINK THIS IS THE LAST BUDGET MEETING ANYWAY. SO MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A COUPLE OF TIMES THIS HAS HAPPENED.

TO US, WHAT. HAPPENED WITH THIS WAS THAT WHEN WE SUBMITTED OUR BUDGET ORIGINALLY, WE WERE TOLD THAT ONLY TO ADD 3% FOR MANAGEMENT, AND THEN WE WERE TOLD TO ADD 3% FOR EVERYBODY, AND THEN WE WERE TOLD TO ADD 3% FOR MANAGEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME FROM. AND IT WAS NOBODY'S FAULT. NO, NO.

NOT BLAMING ANYONE. JUST STAY THERE. I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY. I'M JUST LETTING YOU.

KNOW FOR US AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AS, CAN I. TAKE THIS? I'M JUST OH. THE ONLY.

THING THAT'S DIFFERENT IS TO SOLVE.

THIS CONTRACT. OKAY? ALSO LONGEVITY. KNOW THAT THESE ARE THESE. ARE.

I GAVE FROM. MY.

THANKS. OKAY. WE'RE READY TO GO.

OKAY. IS EVERYONE FALLING OFF THE YELLOW SHEET? OFF YOUR SHEET. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT. OKAY.

OH. THIS NEEDS TO BE.

THIS NEEDS TO BE IMPORTED. IT WAS.

IT WAS IMPORTANT THIS MORNING. MM.

NOT AS EARLY AS THIS MORNING. IT WAS DONE BEFORE THIS MORNING. THAT WAS YESTERDAY. WE DID.

IT WAS DONE THREE TIMES. HEY.

Y'ALL NEED TO FIGURE. OUT THE SYSTEM.

ISSUES HERE. OUT.

CAN YOU SEE IT? WHERE? IT'S JUST.

A LITTLE. IT WAS PUT IN.

YEP. OKAY. IT'S NOT THERE. OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO HOW COULD IT BE INPUTTED BUT NOT THERE? YEAH.

I KNEW I DIDN'T INPUT IT, HAD AN ANSWER.

WE DID. SO WE DIDN'T PUT IT AT THREE TIMES. ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS. SO THE LAST NUMBER THAT WE PUT IN WAS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE.

DATA SHEET. SO NOW THERE'S A LITTLE CONCERN HERE IF THE SYSTEM ISN'T UPDATED. SO MAYBE YOU MEET WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, THAT'S BEFORE YOU MEET WITH PAUL THAT YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

YEAH. I'M SEEING A DIFFERENTIAL ALSO IN LONGEVITY. I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY TALKING A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT ALSO IN THE EQUIPMENT AND BUREAU. THE EQUIPMENT REPAIR BILL IS NOT A NUMBER THAT WE PUT IN THAT IS COMES FROM THE COMPTROLLER AND DPW. I DON'T. KNOW IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE FROM THE FIRST SHEET TO THE SECOND SHEET.

THAT'S THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

YEAH. OKAY. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

IN TERMS OF THE CONFERENCES AND SEMINARS. THAT SAID, WE USE ZERO IN, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR AND NOW IT'S 7500.

CONFERENCE. IT'S LIKE THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM. THIRD FROM.

THE BOTTOM. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE YOUR CONSISTENT BALL. YEAH. OH.

WE HAVE NOT NOT USED ZERO. WE HAVE.

UM, DIDN'T HIT. CORRECT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING WITH ME TO AOT. YES.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN. WHEN THE INVOICES HIT THE BUDGET. RIGHT. WE HAVEN'T SUBMITTED.

SO. NO. SO NOBODY WANTS TO.

A CONFERENCE. CALL WAS CRITICAL OF 4500 IN THE CLERK'S BUDGET. AND YOU'RE 7500, RIGHT? AND THERE'S. A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT.

UM, OUR CONFERENCES WHERE THIS MONEY GETS EXPENDED IS PRETTY MUCH IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER AND ONE IN JULY, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. AND CHRISTINE AND I BOTH ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO, UM, TAKE CONTINUING ED COURSES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO. AND THERE'S MONEY IN THERE. IN THERE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN, UM, UH, NEW STAFF AND WE'RE DOING SOME TRAINING. THEY'RE NOT OUT OF THE OFFICE. IT'S ONLINE. SO IT'S $100 A YEAR. $100 THERE.

SO THE 7500. COVERS THE ONLINE? YES, ALSO.

OKAY. EVERYTHING. YEAH. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. SO YOU SAID YOUR TRAINING TYPICALLY HAPPENS AROUND SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

ONE, ONE TIME IN JULY, AND THEN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

SO YOU DIDN'T GET THE INVOICE FOR THE JULY TRAINING YET? BECAUSE IT'S NOT. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DIDN'T TAKE. IT WAS IN BOTH OF OURS. BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN. YEAH.

IT'S NOT. YEP.

THE ORIGINAL. OKAY.

BUT MUNIS IS REAL TIME, RIGHT? AS SOON AS YOU INPUT SOMETHING, THE COMPTROLLER'S. OFFICE IS STILL NOT SEEING.

IT. THAT'S CONCERNING.

SO COULD YOU BE. BECAUSE THE SUPERVISOR HAD THE TOWN CLERK BREAKDOWN EACH ONE OF THE SEMINARS AND TRAININGS THAT SHE WENT TO IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH THE AMOUNT THAT SHE PUT IN THE BUDGET. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW. BUT COULD YOU DO THAT TO COME UP WITH THE 7500? I CAN DO IT NOW IF YOU'D LIKE.

SURE. BUT I CAN. SURE. SO IN JULY. THERE IS AN ASSESSOR SCHOOL. IT'S PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. AND CHRISTINE AND I BOTH GO. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET MOST OF OUR CREDITS. AND

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THAT IS A WEEK LONG COURSE. AND IT'S UP IN ITHACA. IT'S BEEN IN ITHACA FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 75 YEARS. AND, UM.

THAT'D BE A. AND IT COSTS.

ABOUT $1,000 APIECE, MAYBE 1500.

ABOUT THAT. YEAH. YEAH.

AT EACH OF YOU. YES.

YES. AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER ANNUAL CONFERENCE. UM, THAT HAPPENS IN THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO THAT THAT I KNOW HAS NOT HIT YET. DID YOU PUT YOURS IN? BECAUSE I'M.

BAD ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T EVEN GET THE INVOICE FROM THE ASSOCIATION. YEAH. UM.

JUST WHETHER YOU WHETHER YOU GOT AN INVOICE OR NOT, SOMEHOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF 7500.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY SPENT. BETWEEN THAT AND TRAINING, I HAVE TWO PEOPLE. SO BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE TAKING ONE DAY SEMINARS RIGHT ONLINE. RIGHT IN.

THE OFFICE. SO IF YOU COULD GIVE THAT KIND OF THAT BREAKDOWN, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

YEP. THE OTHER ONE I WANTED.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SEMINARS AND CONFERENCES, BECAUSE I THINK YOU LEARN A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IT'S JUST A PLACE TO GO AND HAVE DRINKS AT NIGHT. UM, BUT YOU MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE AND MAKE GOOD CONNECTIONS, AND YOU ALSO LEARN A LOT AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON AS BEST PRACTICES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. AND THEN YOU TAKE IT BACK. AT LEAST THAT'S THE EXPERIENCE THAT I KNOW.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE THE BEST JURISDICTION IN THE STATE. SEE HOW. THAT WORKS? BUT BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, UM, I'VE BEEN GOING TO THESE CONFERENCES FOR 37 YEARS, AND I GO TO CLASS AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING, AND I LEAVE IT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON EVERY TIME. SO EVERY, EVERY. AND THEN YOU DRINK HEAVILY.

I CAN'T SAY THAT. PLEASE DON'T SAY THAT. FOR LIABILITY PURPOSES. I KNOW, BUT I'M.

A LIGHTWEIGHT, SO IT'S OKAY. TO GO OUT. SO THE SO THE WEEK CONFERENCES THAT YOU ATTEND ARE THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO DO THOSE ONLINE. UM., NO. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES UM WHERE CHRISTINA IS STILL TAKING THE COURSES. AND SO THERE'S AN EXPENSE TO THE TOWN. AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO GET CREDIT, A LOT OF TIMES I'LL TEACH. SO I GET MY CREDITS THAT WAY. SO IT DOESN'T COST THE TOWN ANYTHING.

SO THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. YEP. OKAY.

ONE THING THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IS THE, UM. UH, IT IS THE REASSESSMENT LINE. WE ORIGINALLY HAD $15,000 IN THERE IN 25. WE ASKED YOU FOR THE, UM, IN 25. WE ASKED YOU FOR THE $15,000 BECAUSE THAT WAS THE TRENDING FOR THE REASSESSMENTS.

AND THEN IN 2026, WE ASKED YOU FOR THE 15,000 AS A BACKUP, JUST IN CASE WE WERE NOT COMFORTABLE DOING WHAT WE DID.

AND WE WERE. SO THERE'S 15,000 THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING IN 26.

SO WE DID NOT PUT IT IN 27. SO ARE YOU GIVING.

IT BACK? I AM GIVING IT BACK. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD.

ARE WE STILL DOING A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS? WE ARE IN THE INTERIM YEARS. YES WE ARE.

OKAY. BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD TO DO IT EVERY YEAR.

WE ARE DOING THIS STATISTICAL ANALYSIS. YEAR TWO, THREE, FOUR, AND EVERY FIFTH YEAR WE'RE DOING THE REBOUND RIGHT, WHICH IS JUST BUILDING A NEW MODEL TO CURRENT STANDARDS. SO.

UM. PART TIME.

YEAH. PART TIME. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING NEXT. OKAY. SO THAT WENT FROM 65,000 TO 90,000. AND I KNOW DON'T THROW ANYTHING AT ME. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH NEW YORK STATE AT THE MOMENT IS THAT THERE ARE TAX REPRESENTATIVES THAT FILE APPEALS. AND THE CITY, THE TOWN CLERK CAN ATTEST TO HOW MANY WE GET BECAUSE SHE GETS THEM AS WELL. I KNOW, I KNOW. SO THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY HAVE FOUND AI, AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE FILINGS AND A LOT OF THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION IS THROUGH AI. SO OUR NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED EXPONENTIALLY.

EXPONENTIALLY. BUT SO HAS EVERYBODY ELSE'S IN THE STATE, IN THE ENTIRE STATE. LONG ISLAND, WESTCHESTER, UPSTATE. AI IMPACT. THAT. WHAT MADE YOUR NUMBERS INCREASE BECAUSE OF AI? THE SAME WAY THE.

TAX REPRESENTATIVES WILL FILE UM, THEIR GRIEVANCES.

BECAUSE MORE TAX REPRESENTATIVES ARE FILING GRIEVANCES BECAUSE THEY HAVE AF, THEY'RE HANDY. YES. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY. AND SO.

I'M SORRY. IT'S OKAY. IS THIS ANOTHER $30,000 TOWARDS A PART TIME PERSON? IS THIS WHAT THIS INCREASE OF THE 30,000? YES.

OKAY. FOR A PART TIME PERSON OR ADDITIONAL PART TIME PERSON? YES. AND THE REASON FOR THAT, THAT INCREASE. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF, WHEN, WHEN WE DEFEND THESE CASES, UM, IF WE WERE TO CONTRACT OUT, WE GET 4000 APPEALS A YEAR AND 1500 COURT CASES, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET. AND IF WE WERE TO CONTRACT OUT FOR THAT, AS SOME MUNICIPALITIES DO, IT'S $300 PER APPRAISAL. WE DO IT IN HOUSE. I HAVE A GREAT STAFF NOW. WE'RE WE'RE FULLY STAFFED AND, UM, WE HAVE THE PART TIMER AND SHE'S BEEN GREAT. SO BUT WE'RE STILL WE'RE SAVING $275,000 BY INCREASING THE $30,000 PART TIME.

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I JUST HAD A QUESTION WITH THIS ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE A LOT OF SENIOR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, ARE HOUSE POOR, HOUSE RICH AND CASH POOR. AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO SOME OF THE THESE CONFERENCES, IF ANY COMMUNITIES WOULD LET, UH, SENIORS ON FIXED INCOMES LIKE DEFER, UH, ANY OF THIS ASSESSMENT INCREASES UNTIL THE TIME WHEN THEY SELL THEIR HOME OR, YOU KNOW, PASS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, IF WE COULD GET THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO AUTHORIZE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE BASED ON INCOME OR WHATEVER. UM, WE DO OUR BUDGET NOW AND WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ANOTHER TIME.

THAT'S A GOOD LONG STORY. YOU WOULD GET MORE OF A BUDGET IF YOU AGREED WITH ME. YOU ALL HEARD THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU. BUT.

YEAH, THAT'S REALLY, LIKE, A PRIORITY. IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT, LIKE, WAYS, UM, OF MAKING IT MORE.

ACCEPTABLE ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER BUDGETARY.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT. I, I THINK THAT THAT THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN A WHOLE LOT MORE CHANGES. UM. I'M SORRY. I AM SO CONFUSED. SO LET ME JUST THROW THIS ON THE TABLE. OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND SERVICE CONTRACTS.

RIGHT. I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHICH ONE GOES WHERE. ONE WENT UP, ONE WENT DOWN.

ONE WENT UP, ONE WENT DOWN. SO I THINK WE HAVE IT RIGHT. WE MET WITH THE CONTROLLER. WE MET WITH THE DID I MEET WITH YOU? JUST KIMBERLY. BUT I THINK WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE SHIFT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE TO LEASES AND IT HELPS US WITH OUR SMALL CLAIMS. IT HELPS US WITH OUR SEARCH PROCEEDINGS. AND SO WE DON'T REALLY GO OUT AS MUCH FOR APPRAISALS AS WE USED TO FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SOFTWARE.

SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY BENEFICIAL.

WHICH WE AUTHORIZED. YES, WHICH YOU AUTHORIZED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. YEAH. SO. OKAY. YEP.

OKAY. THIS IS TRENDS BY THE WAY.

LOOKING LIKE THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE 100%. IT'S STILL GOING UP. I DON'T.

KNOW YET. WE'RE WORKING.

ON IT. SO YOU'RE GOING DOWN AT ALL? NO, NO. NOT YET.

EVEN WITH THE MORTGAGE RATES AND STUFF LIKE.

THAT HASN'T AFFECTED THE MARKET AT ALL. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, 7% INTEREST. RATES.

RIGHT. I DO HAVE A FRIEND WHO PUT THEIR HOUSE ON THE MARKET.

WAS SOLD IN A DAY. IT'S CRAZY. AND IT PROBABLY SOLD FOR OVER WHAT THEY LISTED BUT I FEEL BETTER BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST WESTCHESTER, IT'S LONG ISLAND, IT'S ALBANY, IT'S ROCHESTER, IT'S SYRACUSE, IT'S EVERYWHERE. IT'S JUST INSANE.

HOWEVER, MY COLLEAGUES IN FLORIDA, THEY'RE SEEING HUGE DROPS IN VALUES. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

BUT THEY'RE NOT ADDING SIDEWALKS.

IS THAT WHAT. IT IS? SEE? YOUR FAULT. IT'S YOUR FAULT.

SO, YEAH, SOMETHING ELSE. THERE'S JUST SO.

MUCH I DON'T KNOW. WELL, I THINK A LOT HAS TO DO WITH FLORIDA IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET INSURANCE ANYMORE.

SO I KNOW YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT EXEMPTIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT NOW. YES, WE ARE.

WE WE WE GOT TO GET TO SOME OTHER STUFF. YOU'RE GOING TO.

HAVE TO. YEAH. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE VETERANS EXEMPTION. WELL, I'M DONE WITH MY BUDGET.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

RIGHT. WE'RE DONE WITH THE BUDGET.

THANK YOU. NO.

NO, WE JUST HAVE A VETERAN THAT'S ONLY GOING TO TAKE FIVE MINUTES. I JUST.

I. JUST SAID WE'RE IF WE'RE PRESSED FOR TIME, WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED TO.

YES WE ARE. HOW LONG DO YOU NEED? YEAH.

HOW LONG? IT DOESN'T LOOK TO BE THAT LONG. SO WITH THE EXEMPTIONS, YOU DO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION SOMEWHAT SOON TO PROCEED TOWARDS LOCAL HEARING. UH, EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC HEARINGS. BECAUSE THEY'RE DUE BY MAY 1ST.

TAXABLE STATUS DATE. SO JUST MOVING BACKWARDS. YOU WANT TO LEAVE AT LEAST A MONTH AND A HALF TO GET IT UP TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE. OH, IT'S ALREADY ON HERE.

OKAY. UM. YEAH, JUST. THEY'RE ALL LOCAL OPTION EXEMPTIONS, SO WE DO NEED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EVERYONE WE'RE DOING. SO IF IT'S NOT BEING HEARD TONIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS OR IT ISN'T, I WOULD SUGGEST PUTTING IT ON RIGHT AWAY NEXT WEEK. AND WE KIND.

OF ONLY AGENDA. I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT.

SO WE SHOULD JUST PUT THIS ON THE.

AGENDA FOR. NO, WE'RE DOING IT NOW.

THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. WE ARE.

WE'RE GOOD. NECESSARILY. NEED ONE. WE'RE NOT RUNNING THAT. THERE'S LAWS IN THERE.

YOU MIGHT. THAT'S GOOD. I HAVE I HAVE.

EXTRAS ALREADY, BUT. DOESN'T MATTER.

SO I'M GOING TO BE QUICK BUT I'M GOING TO BE QUICK. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO.

THIS FOR MONTHS. OKAY, GUYS. OKAY. LISTENING.

OKAY. YEAH. I HAVE ONE MORE.

DO YOU NEED IT? AT LEAST I.

GAVE YOU. YOU GOT ONE.

OH. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. OH, OKAY.

JUST EMAIL. IT TO ME. WHAT'S UP NEXT? OH. THERE YOU GO.

ANYWAY, I KNEW WE MADE. IT UP. OKAY, OKAY.

SO REALLY QUICK, THERE ARE SIX EXEMPTIONS THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS RECENTLY PASSED INTO LAW. THEY ARE ALL LOCAL OPTIONS. AND

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THERE ARE WHAT I GAVE YOU IN YOUR PACKETS, WHICH I FEEL LIKE I'VE GIVEN YOU BEFORE, IS A SUMMARY FOR EACH PIECE OF LEGISLATION. IT'S A ONE PARAGRAPH BULLET POINTS, EASY TO UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THREE PAGES. THE NEXT FOUR PAGES, WHATEVER THE NEXT PACKET, THE NEXT PART OF THE PACKET. READ IT. WHEN YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE TO DO.

THAT'S THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW. SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO. READ IT.

I'M GOING TO SUM IT UP FOR YOU OKAY. AND THERE IN ORDER. SO 467 IS THE SENIOR CITIZEN EXEMPTION. AND THE CURRENT THERE'S A SLIDING SCALE BASED ON YOUR INCOME. AND IT GOES FROM YOUR INCOME IS ZERO TO YOUR INCOME IS 58,400. THERE IS A SLIDING SCALE. IF YOU'RE AT 58,400, YOU GET 5% EXEMPTION.

IF YOU'RE AT 57, YOU GET A 10% EXEMPTION. AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT SCALE NUMBER? AGAIN.

IT GOES FROM ZERO. TO TODAY. IT GOES FROM 0 TO.

50, 50,000, 50. NO, 50%.

YOU GAVE ME A STEP, BUT I THOUGHT YOU HAD.

WELL .. YEAH. IT GOES FROM 0 TO 50% TODAY.

THAT AMOUNT MAX IS $58,400. SO IF YOU MAKE 57,000. IF YOU MAKE 57,000, YOU'LL GET A 10% EXEMPTION.

HOUSEHOLD. YES. IT'S HOUSEHOLD AND IT'S SOCIAL SECURITY AND IT'S IRA DISTRIBUTIONS. AND WE ALREADY WE BEING YOU ALREADY MADE THOSE DECISIONS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. THE GOVERNOR HAS PASSED INTO LAW THAT SHE'S GOING FROM THE 0 TO 50% SAME AMOUNT. NOW IT'S PROPOSED THAT IT'S GOING FROM 0 TO 65%. SO THAT WOULD SHIFT IF SOMEBODY WAS GETTING 50% YESTERDAY, THEY'RE GOING TO GET 65% EXEMPTION TODAY.

BASED ON THAT SAME CAP. BASED ON THAT SAME 58,400.

CORRECT? OKAY. EVERYONE IN THE HOUSEHOLD, THE TOTAL OF THEIR INCOMES HAS TO BE UNDER WHATEVER. NUMBER 58. CORRECT. OH, TOTAL.

HOW DO YOU. KNOW THAT? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SUPPLY US WITH TAX RETURNS EVERY YEAR.

IT'S A RENEWAL. ALL RIGHT. SO THE TAX RETURNS YOU ONLY HAVE TO LIST IN LIST YOUR DEPENDENTS THAT YOU WANT TO LIST AS DEPENDENTS. WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. WE HAVE THERE'S A FORM UH, THE APPLICATION RENEWAL. AND IT SAYS DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL? IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL, YOU DO NOT GET THE EXEMPTION. SO WE VERIFY THAT WITH THE SCHOOLS. IF WE'RE IF WE'RE APPREHENSIVE. AND FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, THE LIKELIHOOD. IS PRETTY SLIM THAT THEY HAVE CHILDREN SCHOOL. BUT SOME DO. YES.

YES, IT'S WEIRD, BUT THEY DO GRANT GRANDKIDS.

YEAH. SO, UM, AND.

HOW MUCH. DO YOU AND.

HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE GOING FROM 50 TO 65% IS GOING TO COST? OKAY. I BROKE IT OUT INTO UNINCORPORATED AND VILLAGES. THE VILLAGES WILL BE. FOR THE EXISTING, RECIPIENTS. SO WE MIGHT GET MORE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT FOR THE EXISTING RECIPIENTS IN THE VILLAGES, IT TOTALS ALL SIX VILLAGES. IT TOTALS $10,000 ADDITIONAL.

YOU'RE SAYING. TEN SAVINGS TO THE SENIOR.

CITIZEN TOTAL. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE THESE NUMBERS WRITTEN CONNECTED TO THIS? I HAVE REPORTS, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THEM WITH YOU. I DID NOT DO THAT TONIGHT.

OKAY, OKAY. BE HELPFUL.

TO EVERYTHING. THAT YOU NORMALLY DO. YES.

YEAH. DO THE TEACHER THING. YOU BREAK OUT STUFF, YOU SAY WHAT IS GOING TO BE WHAT THE NUMBERS IS GOING TO.

BE. OKAY. SO IN THE, IN THE VILLAGES, ALL SIX VILLAGES TOTAL FOR EVERYBODY. TOTAL IN THE VILLAGES THE EXPOSURE IS $10,000 WHICH MEANS SENIORS PAID $10,000 LESS. AND EVERYBODY PAYS. THE IT MAKES UP FOR THE DIFFERENCE. YES. THANK YOU. IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, ALL TOTAL SUBSIDIZED IS ABOUT $100,000. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE I AM MEETING WITH THE VOC, UM, NEXT WEEK TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THEM AS WELL. THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, PASS A LOCAL LAW. THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, AND I'M MEETING WITH THEM RIGHT AFTER THAT. UM, AND THEY DO THEY APPROVE IT OR NOT? BY RESOLUTION. ARE YOU MEETING WITH THEM OR ONCE? ARE YOU HAVING TO MEET WITH THEM.

ONCE? I'M ON? YEAH. THANK YOU. BOTH. THIS TEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE SIX. VILLAGES, AT ONE TIME.

EXPEDITES THE PROCESS. YEAH.

OKAY. NEXT ONE.

THE FISCAL IMPACT IS 200,000. BUT YOU GAVE US 10,000 FOR THE VILLAGES AND 100,000 FOR THE TOWN OUTSIDE.

RIGHT? YEAH, I JUST REDID.

IT. SO THIS IS IN THIS WRITTEN ONE.

WHERE ARE YOU READING. IT? UNDER THE.

FIRST $1,000. OH, YEAH. YEAH, I JUST REDID.

IT. NUMBERS ARE CORRECT. NO, THE CORRECT NUMBER IS $10,000 FOR THE VILLAGES AND $100,000 FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. HOW IS THAT TOTAL? 110,000.

YEP. THIS ONE WENT BACK. SO THAT 200 SHOULD CHANGE TO 100. TO 110.

YEP. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT ONE.

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UM, THAT'S A DECISION THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE. THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE I, I'M JUST WANT TO THROW IT ON THE TABLE THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT THEY HAVEN'T MOVED ON IT YET. OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT NUMBER TWO.

WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE IT. THE COUNTY HASN'T DONE.

IT AND THE SCHOOLS HAVE NOT DONE A MEETING WITH THE COUNTY.

I'M MEETING WITH THE VOC NEXT WEEK AND THE SCHOOLS A COUPLE WEEKS FROM NOW. AND THE. COUNTY COUNCIL.

YEAH, THE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE. YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. 466 A THAT'S THE FIREMEN'S EXEMPTION. AND WE FINALLY GOT THAT ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT. SO I THOUGHT AND THEN THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THIS INTO LAW, WHICH SAYS THAT ANY FIREFIGHTERS OR AMBULANCE WORKERS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, UM, THEIR SPOUSE RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE RECEIVING A 10% EXEMPTION. ALL VOLUNTEERS ARE RECEIVING RECEIVING A 10% EXEMPTION IF A FIRE.

PERSON, THEY'RE. ALIVE OR.

NOT. ONLY ALIVE, ONLY ALIVE AND ACTIVE. OKAY, 10% IF I HOPE I NEVER HAVE TO ADMINISTER THIS.

BUT IF WE. DO.

SORRY. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? INACTIVE? AND AND ACTIVE? THEY HAVE TO BE ALIVE AND ACTIVE.

THE SPOUSE. OH.

THE FIRE. THE FIRE. THE FIRE.

FIREFIGHTER. 10% THAT THEY GET.

BUT THEY JUST WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN HOW WE ARE TODAY.

SHE'S GETTING TO THAT. IT'S JUST SHE'S THE LEAD UP THE TEACHER. IF A VOLUNTEER PASSES AWAY IN THE LINE OF DUTY, THEIR SPOUSE WILL RECEIVE UP TO 50% EXEMPTION. SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT PERCENTAGE. CORRECT. YOU HAVE THAT PREROGATIVE. YOU CAN KEEP IT AT 10%, AND YOU CAN MAKE IT ANYWHERE BETWEEN WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TO MAX 50%.

OKAY. SO IT'S CURRENTLY 10%.

THE COUNTY HAS ADOPT 50%. YES.

SO WE CAN WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS.

SO I'M I'M JUST THROWING EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. BUT IN 99% OF PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS IT IS ALWAYS WHATEVER. HERE IT IS ALWAYS APPLICABLE TO THIS UN REMARRIED SURVIVING SPOUSE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE LANGUAGE IN THE LAWS. IT IS NOT LIKE THAT. HERE. IT IS THE SURVIVING SPOUSE.

WHETHER THEY'RE MARRIED OR. NOT. THEY STILL.

GET. THE EXEMPTION.

YEAH. YES.

AND THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THE ASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE ASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY. I HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE HAVE $300,000 HOMES AND VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE $3 MILLION HOMES.

SURE. I MEAN, IN THINKING ABOUT THE SCENARIO, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME UP VERY OFTEN.

I HOPE TO GOD IT NEVER DOES. RIGHT.

SO THAT'S. WHY IT'S NOT REALLY THAT IMPACTFUL.

I WOULD SAY. SO I. HOPE I HOPE THAT IS CORRECT.

OPENS THE DOOR THAT HASN'T BEEN OPENED YET. I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S YOU CAN MARRY SOMEBODY, CAN MARRY A MILLIONAIRE, AND YOU STILL GET AN EXEMPTION AND YOU CAN BUY A BIGGER HOUSE AND YOU STILL GET AN EXEMPTION.

WELL, BUT THAT'S. WHAT THE HOUSE WOULD BE.

IN. ANY THE PERSON STAY IN PERSON, RIGHT. SO THEN IF TO FRANCIS'S POINT.

SO YOU GET REMARRIED. TO A BILLIONAIRE.

SO A BILLIONAIRE, WE MOVE INTO WE BUY $1 BILLION HOUSE. I GET THE TAX EXEMPTION BECAUSE I CARRIED IT EVEN THOUGH.

EVERYBODY ELSE SUBSIDIZED. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOW IT MIGHT BE JOINT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IF IT'S A JOINT OWNERSHIP, IT DOESN'T IMPACT IT AT ALL. IT'S NOT DIVINE LIKE THAT. SO I HAVE TO CHECK. ON IT. YEAH. I HAVE A SLEW OF QUESTIONS. I FIND OUT MORE.

ABOUT THIS. YEAH. JUST YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, FLIP THE PAGE BECAUSE NOW I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND. SECTION 471 OF THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW. THAT IS, IF A POLICE OFFICER IS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, THE DEFINITION OF KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY COMES FROM THE POLICE ASSOCIATION NATIONAL SOMETHING. AND THERE AGAIN, IT'S ALSO A 50% EXEMPTION TO THE SURVIVING SPOUSE, NOT THE REMARRIED SURVIVING SPOUSE, BUT THE SURVIVING.

SPOUSE. SO BUT THIS ONE, THE UNMARRIED, IS. IS FLEXIBLE. ALL THE OTHER EXEMPTIONS IS WHAT. WELL YOU FOR THE 466 A YOU SAID WHETHER THEY'RE REMARRIED OR REMARRIED BUT FOR THE FOR 71.

SAME THING. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I WAS YEAH. SAME THING.

THIS ONE UNLIKE THE OTHER ONE IS LIMITED TO BEING THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE. THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE FIRST. ONE SAID IT AGAIN I'M SORRY.

THERE'S THE POLICE OFFICER KILLED IN LINE OF DUTY. IT HAS TO BE THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE. BUT THAT'S NOT LISTED HERE FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS AND AMBULANCE WORKERS.

SO IT COULD BE A VACATION HOUSE.

IS THAT. COULD BE A VACATION HOUSE.

IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE FIREMAN'S VOLUNTEER EXEMPTION, IT HAS TO BE YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW

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THE DEFINITION HERE. I WOULD ASSUME IT HAS TO BE YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE, BUT WE'LL LOOK INTO.

THAT FURTHER. YEAH. IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT.

OKAY. 457 A OF THE OF THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TRANSFER TO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. THAT MEANS THAT IF GREENBERG HOUSING HAS THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THEY DECIDE TO CONVERT THOSE TO CONDOS AND SELL THEM TO ME, I CAN GET AN EXEMPTION BECAUSE I AM WITH I'M WITHIN THE 80% OF AM I IN THE COUNTY. SO I NOT ONLY WOULD GET, I WOULD GET AN EXEMPTION. WHEN I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THIS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 3040 OF THESE.

ALREADY. AND THEY ARE RESTRICTED BASED ON DEED. AND THE DEED SAYS YOU CAN ONLY YOU BUY THE HOUSE FOR $250,000 IN GREENBERG AND WESTCHESTER, AND IT IS RESTRICTED. SO THE TAXES ARE RESTRICTED TO THAT PURCHASE PRICE. AND THESE PEOPLE ARE BUYING THESE HOMES IN SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, $900,000 NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT THEIR TAXES ARE BASED ON WHATEVER THAT SALE PRICE IS. SO NOW THIS LAW ALLOWS YOU TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL EXEMPTION ON TOP OF THE ALREADY EXEMPTION. WHEREAS I LOVE FRANCES'S TERM, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SUBSIDIZE. SO THAT'S. THAT QUESTION.

DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPACTFUL ONE SO FAR? I THINK THEY'RE ALL IMPACTED. I THINK THEY'RE ALL IMPACTFUL.

NO. THE NEXT ONE IS COMING UP. JUST TO CLARIFY, FOR THE TWO PREVIOUS LAWS THAT BOUGHT FOR THE PRIMARY RESIDENTS.

PRIMARY RESIDENCE. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.

457 A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. I DID THAT ONE. OKAY. UM, FOR 5458 A THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE VETERANS EXEMPTION. UM, THIS ONE IS THE PROPERTY MUST BE THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE OF THE VETERAN OR. THERE YOU GO ON REMARRIED SURVIVING SPOUSE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE. AND I THINK THAT THIS LAW WILL PROBABLY BE AMENDED BECAUSE IN THE LAW. IT SAYS LGBT. AND I THINK THAT IT SHOULD SAY L LGBTQ, IT DOES NOT. SO I'VE READ IT TEN TIMES. IT DOES NOT. SO I'M SURE THERE WILL BE AN AMENDMENT BEHIND IT. BUT ANYWAY, UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEPARATE FROM SERVICE, YOU GET SEPARATION PAPERS AND EVERYBODY GETS SEPARATION PAPERS EXCEPT THE LGBT. CUZ WHY? WHY.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I DON'T KNOW? WELL, CLEARLY THE INFERENCE IS THAT THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERING IT AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE. IF THEY'RE TOLD TO.

LEAVE, IT'S CHANGING. BUT THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE EXEMPTION. AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT GET A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY.

SO IT'S LIKE A NEUTRAL. YEAH. YES, YES. NOXIOUS.

SORRY. THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE VETERAN MUST BE PERMANENTLY AND TOTALLY DISABLED.

RIGHT. AND THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT THAT'S WHERE ALL YOUR PHONE CALLS HAVE BEEN COMING FROM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AND YOUR EMAILS AND YOUR PEOPLE ARE STOPPING YOU IN THE STREET TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT'S THIS.

EXEMPTION AND PUBLIC COMMENT AS.

WELL AS I'M. TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE SOMEBODY WAS PERMANENTLY DISABLED, BUT THEY WERE A FORTUNE 500 COMPANY OR SOMETHING LIKE.

THAT. BUT CAN WORK DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE. CERTAINLY WHEN THE LEGISLATION WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN LAST YEAR, IT WAS YOU HAD TO BE PERMANENTLY DISABLED 100%. YOU HAD TO BE UNDER AND SAY THIS RIGHT, UNEMPLOYABLE, AND YOUR HOME HAD TO BE MANIPULATED TO YOUR HANDICAP. SO THEY TOOK ALL THAT OUT AND THEY MADE IT MANDATORY, AND THEY TOOK ALL THE BABY, AND THE GOVERNOR TOOK ALL THAT. OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUBSIDIZING THIS. THEY WANT US TO WRITE. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

OF THOSE. I'M NOT.

SAYING DOWN. MANDATES MANDATE SOUNDS GREAT. AND LET US PASS THIS AND NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

OKAY. YEP. AND THE.

IMPACTS ARE YEP. HERE. UH, HOLD ON. IT IS YOUR LAST PAGE OF THE PACKET AND IT'S 76, ALMOST $7,700. LAST PAGE, UM, $7,700 FOR THE VILLAGES TOTAL AND 96,000 FOR THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG. WHICH.

WHAT ARE YOU. TALKING ABOUT? I'M ON THE LAST PAGE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY LAST PAGE. OF THE PACKET.

OH, THE LAST PAGE PACKET. THIS LAST PAGE.

OH, I THOUGHT OH, I THOUGHT YOU I WAS WRITING ON, I WAS.

OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT I PUT THEM TOGETHER.

I DID. 76, 88, 41 FOR THE VILLAGES AND 96009696 20. I'M SORRY, THIS IS REFERRING.

THIS IS. REFERENCING VETERANS.

THAT ARE. TOTALLY DISABLED.

OKAY. THAT'S I DON'T WANT TO WRITE.

THAT BECAUSE. YOU CAN WRITE ON THEM. OKAY. SO I SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME INCREASES IN THIS LIST BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY IS 80% DISABLED, THEN THEY GO TO THE VETERANS AND THEY WILL GET AN INCREASE. THEN THEY NOTIFY US AND THEN WE CHANGE. OKAY. SO I DON'T SEE.

THAT BEING SOS. VILLAGES AND SCHOOLS HAVE TO PASS THIS AS WELL. YES THEY DO.

VILLAGES BY LOCAL LAW SCHOOLS BY UM BY RESOLUTION. AND I HAVE

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IT BROKEN OUT BY THE. SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE, THE POPULATION, THE CUMULATIVE POPULATION, THE VILLAGE IS, IS ROUGHLY THE SAME, A LITTLE BIT MORE, I THINK, THAN THE UNINCORPORATED. SO THAT THIS IS JUST THE PORTION THAT THE TOWN WOULD BE IMPACTED FOR THE VILLAGES.

CORRECT. IT'S NOT A LOT.

OF PEOPLE, REALLY, BUT. IT'S WE DON'T KNOW THAT.

THE PEOPLE DON'T. EVEN MIND IF IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. AS LONG AS THERE'S A LEGITIMATE REASON FOR US TO HAVE EVERY OTHER TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZE IT. THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HERE, OH, IT'S AN EXEMPTION. IT'S EXEMPTION EXEMPTION, WHICH MEANS EVERYBODY ELSE'S TAXES ARE GOING UP. AND, YOU KNOW, A GOOD CAUSE FOR DOING THAT. UH, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE IS FAIRLY IMPLEMENTED. IF THERE'S JUSTIFICATION FOR IT. AND FRANKLY, I THINK THE GOVERNOR TAKING OUT REASONABLE CONDITIONS, UM, BECAUSE, HEY, I'M RUNNING FOR OFFICE THIS YEAR AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET ALL THESE THINGS OUT. SO EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT WHAT I PUT FORWARD. UH, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY. WOULD BE NICE IF THE STATE WOULD ACTUALLY BACK UP WHAT THEIR EXEMPTIONS ARE.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO SORT OF GIVE A VERY BROAD STROKE, GUESS AS TO WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN PER HOUSEHOLD IN TERMS OF.

I CAN. DO THAT SUBSIDIZING, YOU KNOW.

SHARING CUMULATIVE OR JUST A SINGLE CUMULATIVE FOR ALL OF THEM. UM, YEAH. YEAH.

JUST TO LOOK AT. YEAH, YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU MIGHT WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN PER. YEAH. AND THEN TOTAL TOGETHER. YEAH.

YEAH. MAYBE WE SHOULD PASS A RESOLUTION ASKING OUR STATE LEGISLATORS, UM, TO HELP SUBSIDIZE, UM, SOME OF THESE, UM, EXEMPTIONS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY, YOU KNOW, I, I SORT OF AGREE. I THINK ALL OF THEM ARE REALLY WORTHWHILE, AND, YOU KNOW, AND GOOD. BUT I THINK THE STATE LEGISLATORS, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE BEING I, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SORT OF LIKE NOT DOING THEIR FAIR SHARE. YOU KNOW, IF THEY WOULD SAY, OKAY, THE STATE'S GOING TO PAY HALF OF IT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS COULD PAY HALF OF IT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW. FAIR THEY DID THAT WHEN THEY FIRST ADMINISTERED THE STAR EXEMPTION. THEY WERE GIVING US AN OFFSET OF OUR COSTS BECAUSE IT WAS OVER TIME AND IT WAS PAPER AND IT WAS MAILINGS AND IT WAS IT WAS CRAZY. AND THAT LASTED ABOUT THREE YEARS. THEN THE GOVERNOR SAID, I DECIDED NOT TO. DO THAT ANYMORE.

RIGHT. BUT I'M SAYING, RIGHT. THEY'RE THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR PICTURES IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS SAYING, LOOK WHAT WE DID. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE NOT ASSUMING ANYTHING.

IMPACTS IS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? KEEPING KEEPING IN MIND, KEEPING IN MIND, UM, ALL BUT ONE OF THE EXEMPTIONS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO GAVE SERVICE TO US, WHO RAN INTO THE FIRES. YOU RAN INTO DANGER, WHO EITHER AS A POLICE OFFICER, A FIREFIGHTER OR A SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY SENIOR CITIZENS HAVE GIVEN TO THE COMMUNITY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND. WELL, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT POLITICS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY JOB.

HOWEVER. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT POLITICS.

IT'S JUST. I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU'RE NOT.

YOU'RE NOT. I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THE LAW THAT CAME OUT WITH THE POLICE OFFICER KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, AND IT WAS A POLICE OFFICER. IT WASN'T FIRE, IT WASN'T EMERGENCY SERVICES, AMBULANCE. IT WAS JUST POLICE OFFICERS. SO MORAL OF THE STORY THERE IS I DON'T I DON'T SUSPECT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TOO LONG FOR IT TO COME RIGHT BEHIND THAT. WHY WOULDN'T IT JUST BE FIRST RESPONDERS? I DON'T KNOW.

THAT ANSWER EITHER. POINT OF LIKE FORCING IT OUT.

LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER. YEAH.

SO THE LAST ONE IS 450 A.D. COMBAT SERVICES EXEMPTION. IT IS A MAXIMUM OF 25%, UP TO 25%, BUT NO GREATER THAN $20,000 OF AN EXEMPTION AMOUNT. AND THOSE ARE FOR ACTIVE DUTIES.

THIS IS. ONLY THE LAST ONE THAT THIS IS ONLY THE VETERANS, THIS. ONE, ONLY THE VETERANS.

UM, THIS IS FOR ACTIVE SERVICEMEN RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE NOT IF THEY'RE STILL IN THE MILITARY, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR AN. EXEMPTION.

SO THIS CHANGES THAT. SO WOULD YOU YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO THIS FOREVER FOR ALL OF THE EXEMPTIONS.

I CANNOT DO IT FOR THIS. I CANNOT DO IT FOR THE COMBAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ACTIVE OR NOT.

SO YOU DEFINITELY DID A GREAT JOB OF RESEARCHING THIS THIS EXCELLENT WORK. SO MY QUESTION MY QUESTION.

IS IT LOOKS LIKE A LIKE. LET'S SAY WE PASSED THIS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DON'T. WHAT IS TO STOP SOMEBODY WHO IS IN A MUNICIPALITY WHO REFUSES TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SERVED AND FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY? SO THEY MOVE HERE AND NOW WE HAVE WE WILL BE SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. UH, AT 100% ASSESSMENT REDUCTION. AND

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THERE'S TO ME, THAT'S NOT FAIR. WELL.

SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. HOW MANY PHONE CALLS HAVE WE GOTTEN? 5 OR.

6 OF PEOPLE LOOKING AT BUYING HOUSES, WANTING TO KNOW IF WE ARE OFFERING THE VETERANS EXEMPTION.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING. THE BIGGEST HOUSE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, GREAT VIEWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE? AND THEY DIDN'T LIVE IN GREENBERG, BUT THEY'RE MOVING HERE SOLELY FOR THE EXEMPTION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GO TO THE STATE ABOUT AND SAY, HEY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT AMENDING THIS. WELL, HOW COULD THEY AMEND IT TO ME? I MEAN, IT'S AN INCENTIVE. IT'S ALSO.

UNLESS UNLESS IT WAS IT HAD TO BE CONTINGENT ON ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED, PASSING IT FOR IT TO PASS. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE IF WE ONLY IT ONLY WORKED. IF WE PASSED IT, THE VILLAGE PASSED IT. THE COUNTY.

EVERY OTHER, EVERY OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE PASSED IT. WELL, IT WAS ORIGINALLY MANDATORY. AND SHE TOOK THAT OUT, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN IT WOULD HAVE RESOLVED YOUR. ISSUE. EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. SO IF SOMEBODY IS 100% DISABLED AND THEY'RE A VETERAN AND THEY WANT TO BUY A NICE HOUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALSO SERVED THE COUNTRY.

SO JUST. THE POINT BEING THAT IF THEY LIVE IN THE VILLAGE AND THEY'D ONLY GET THE $7,600 EXEMPTION BECAUSE THE VILLAGES DIDN'T PASS IT, THEY MIGHT THEY CAN AND THEY'VE ALREADY ASKED MOVE TO UNINCORPORATED. SO THEY GET THE FULL 90, YOU KNOW, THE FULL BENEFIT OF THE HIGHER EXEMPTION. ALSO THIS IS WE'RE ONLY DOING THE TOWN PORTION, NOT THE ONLY NOT THE SCHOOL PORTION.

ONLY THE TOWN. EVERYBODY ELSE IS ON THEIR OWN. AND THE COUNTY IS ON THEIR OWN AS WELL. RIGHT.

AND SOME OF THESE EXEMPTIONS ARE UP TO A PERCENTAGE THRESHOLD. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU HAVE TO GIVE THAT FULL. AMOUNT, RIGHT.

THAT ONE SAYS 100%. DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY NEGOTIATION.

OF THAT ONE? THAT'S THAT'S NOT.

A THAT'S THE. ONE THAT I'M FOCUSING ON IS THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD INCENTIVE. YOU COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY PROPERTY TAXES IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK. HEY, LET'S MOVE THERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY PROPERTY TAXES. 99% OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES, EXEMPTIONS THAT WE ISSUE ARE. YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY SEWER AND REFUSE AND FIRE TAX. AND THIS ONE NOTHING ZERO ZERO. SEWER REPAIRS, ALL THAT KIND OF THING. YOU PAY NOTHING. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK WE HAVE A DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE TIME WE PASS THIS, OF TAKING CARE OF THEM, OR IF THEY LIVE HERE AND THEN BECOME DISABLED BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A COMPOUND ZONE AND THEY BECOME DISABLED. THAT, TO ME IS A DIFFERENT STORY THAN SOMEBODY MOVES HERE SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF BASICALLY RIPPING OFF THE TAXPAYERS OF THE TOWN.

OF GREEN. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET AROUND THAT. I DON'T I'M NOT SURE ANY LEGISLATOR IS GOING TO SUPPORT.

WELL, WE JUST NEED THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO ASSUME PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY AND PAY PAY A PORTION, BECAUSE I BASICALLY THINK THAT THESE EXEMPTIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE GOOD AND POSITIVE. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO THE VETERANS. YEAH. A COUPLE DAYS AGO, I WENT TO THIS OCTOBER, AND I WAS TALKING TO A VETERAN, 100% DISABLED VETERAN WHO LIVES IN THE FULTON PARK SECTION OF GREENBERG, I BELIEVE, AND HE'S IN A WHEELCHAIR. YOU KNOW, HE BASICALLY IS IN A WHEELCHAIR.

SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S SUFFERING. SO GIVING HIM A LITTLE HAPPINESS. THERE'S NOTHING REALLY WRONG. BUT THE STATE SHOULD ASSUME, YOU KNOW, WHAT? IF THERE WAS A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT? YEAH. THAT'S. YEAH. LIKE IF YOU HAD TO HAVE LIVED IN GREENBERG FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, I WOULD.

HAVE TO LOOK. INTO THAT MOVE IN, MOVE IN HERE. LIKE YOU'RE SAYING. THERE IS NO RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. I KNOW THERE IS, BUT CAN WE AS A, AS A TOWN PUT THAT INTO OUR LEGISLATION? THAT'S SOMETHING FOR JOE. TO I'M.

NOT SURE WE'LL HAVE TO. RECEIVE THAT. YEAH YEAH.

YEAH THAT WOULD TAKE CARE. OF THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, THE NUMBERS THAT I GAVE YOU IN THE BACK, THE LAST PAGE, THE NUMBERS THAT I GAVE YOU, THOSE PEOPLE ON THIS LIST, THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING 100% OF THE PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION, BUT THEY ONLY GET 50% OF IT. SO THIS HERE. WHAT IS THAT? I DON'T.

UNDERSTAND? I DIDN'T. MAKE ANY SENSE.

THE VETERANS EXEMPTION. YEAH, THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE UM, ON THIS LIST. I HAVE CONFIRMED WITH ME THAT THEY ARE 100% DISABLED. OH.

THAT'S THEY ARE. DISABLED. THEY'RE GETTING 50%.

CURRENTLY, THE LAW ONLY ALLOWS A 50%, UM, OFF THEIR DISABILITY RATING. SO IF THEY'RE 50% DISABLED, THEY GET A 25% EXEMPTION. THE PEOPLE ON THIS LIST ARE 100% DISABLED. AND SO THEY'RE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GETTING A 50% EXEMPTION. SO THE NUMBERS THAT I GAVE YOU ON HERE.

WOULD BE DOUBLED. THEY'RE ALREADY IN THERE. SO THIS IS THE ADDITION. OH RIGHT. SO SO SO THEY'RE

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GETTING 96,000 IS REALLY UH, 200. YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 200,000. WHEN IT STARTED HITTING THE NEWSPAPERS. I'M SORRY. NO. SO THE 96,000 IS CLOSER TO TWO, 200,000. NO, NO, IT'S ALREADY IN OUR SYSTEM. IT'S ALREADY. YOU'RE ALREADY SUBSIDIZING THEM AND YOU'RE ALREADY. NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK TO WHEN I SAY 96. IF WE PASSED THE LAW WITH 100.

IT'LL BE. YEAH. IT'S 90. IT'S DOUBLE THE 96.

NO, THE 96 IS ALREADY IN THERE. THIS IS GOING TO BE IN ADDITION TO THE 96. SO TOTAL IT WILL BE 200.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING.

YEAH. THAT'S NOT COUNTING PEOPLE THAT MOVE HERE JUST TO GET EXEMPT. YEAH. THAT'S JUST.

FROM MY, MY MY LAW SCHOOL BACKGROUND. THAT'S WHY I GOT IT RIGHT. WE ALL DO.

I KNOW. OKAY OKAY. HERE WE GO. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH TIMELINES. FOR THIS.

SO WE ARE IN OCTOBER AT THE END OF OCTOBER. UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS. I, WE ARE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, BUT. I THINK JOE HAS TO DO SOMETHING. YEAH. JOE.

NEXT MONTH. TOMORROW. OKAY. NEXT MONTH. YEAH, SURE. I WOULD SUGGEST STARTING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN JANUARY, BUT I'LL DO RESEARCH. IN THAT. ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE SAME TIME, OR DO WE.

WANT STARTING IN DECEMBER, THOUGH, WHEN THE BUDGET IS BEING AMENDED AND PEOPLE HAVE HOLIDAY SEASONS, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE. DID THEY? DID THE COUNTY DO ALL OF THEM OR JUST ONE? THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY YET? NO, BUT IT ISN'T THE COUNTY ONLY LOOKING AT.

ONE. CONSIDERED ALL AT ONCE IN PUBLIC HEARING IN ONE. SO IN EACH PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS EACH INDIVIDUALLY. YES, BUT THEY'D ALL BE SEPARATE SECTIONS. OF THE DEPARTMENT. DO WE DO IT SEQUENTIALLY? YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE.

UM. CAN WE DO THEM ALL THE SAME NIGHT. AS WHAT SHE'S ASKING? FIVE.

YEAH, 45471 WOULD BE ONE WEEK. NO, NO, I.

DIDN'T. I SAID, CAN WE DO HOLLY? LET'S LET HOLLY SEE WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON, BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE SOME MAJOR LAND ISSUES, YOU KNOW, GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. SO LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT WE COULD. THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T GET THEM ALL DONE IN JANUARY.

RIGHT? SO YEAH, IF YOU'RE WORKING.

OUT I WOULD DO IT. NO PROBLEM.

WE'RE THERE TO HELP. SO AND THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY WRITTEN SOME OF IT. SO I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT AS WELL. DO YOU WANT THE..

SO AFTER THIS THERE GOES THE TAX DECREASE. RIGHT.

OKAY. DO WE KNOW IF IT'S ON THE COUNTY'S DOCKET. ANYTIME IT IS THEY ALL ARE. I DON'T BELIEVE NO. INCOME IS..

NO I THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

I SPOKE TO MY COUNTY DIRECTOR AND HE SAID THEY'RE IN COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW OKAY. AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE NOT. NOT YET. NOT YET.

DO YOU THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WILL DO IT? I THINK SOME OF THEM WILL. THERE'S ONE EXEMPTION. I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE. WAS THERE SO MANY. NOW THAT THE SCHOOL IS NOT ELIGIBLE. , WHEN THEY SAY IN COMMITTEE, IS IT ON THE LIST. TO LOOK AT, ARE THEY SCHEDULED TO DISCUSS? THERE'S A DIFFERENCE? OKAY, I'LL FIND OUT.

I THINK. COMBAT ZONE SERVICE EXEMPTION.

THERE'S NO SCHOOL EXEMPTION OKAY.

THAT'S THE ACTIVE RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT PAUL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? UH, A MOTION NOT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS A LOT.

GOOD NIGHT. I DO. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. YOU DIDN'T GET A SECOND, THOUGH. SO DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS. MATTERS, AS AMENDED. ALSO, FOR AN INTERVIEW FOR PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD AND THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMISSION. AND TO END NO LATER THAN NINE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I ADDED THE TWO INTERVIEWS ON TO PAUL'S MOTION. THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

THANK YOU. IS THIS GOING TO BE A LONG WINTER? HEY,

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