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TARA TOWN BOARD.OUR WORK SESSION TODAY IS OCTOBER 13TH AT SIX 30.
WE, UM, APOLOGIZE FOR, UH, THE HALF HOUR DELAY.
UM, IT WAS DUE TO SOME TECHNICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, ISSUES.
UM, AND AGAIN, SORRY, THAT, UH, SOME PEOPLE SPENT A HALF HOUR, UM, RUSHING TO GET TO THE MEETING.
BUT THE FIRST ITEM IS GONNA BE, UM, DISCUSSING, UM, THE VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE, UM, UM, ISSUES AND, UM, UH, RECOMMENDATION BY SOME VILLAGE OFFICIALS TO EXPAND OUR A M SS, UM, UNIT PROGRAM.
UH, I THOUGHT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WITH MICHAEL MILLS, WHO, UM, UH, WAS ONE OF THE FIRST, UM, VILLAGE OFFICIALS TO, UH, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
WE COULD HEAR FROM CHIEF MCINERNEY AND, UM, AND JARED ROSENBERG, AND THEN HERE FROM, UM, THE AMBULANCE CORPS, UM, UH, LEADERSHIP THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COMMENT.
SO, MICHAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, UH, THOUGHTS? DO WE HAVE MICHAEL MILLS HERE? UH, MICHAEL'S ON, UH, PHONE.
HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE ACCESSING.
UH, WE, UM, I THINK FRANCIS HAD GIVEN HIM A PHONE NUMBER THAT HE WAS GONNA BE USING TO CALL IN.
THERE'S ALSO LIKE, I THINK SOMEBODY HAS THEIR TV OR THEIR SOMETHING ON, 'CAUSE I'M HEARING YOU SPEAK AND THEN LIKE FIVE SECONDS LATER YOU SPEAK.
MIKE, THIS IS, THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR A SECOND.
IT APPEARS THAT THE VOLUME THAT'S LEAKING OUT FROM THE CABLE STATION IS VERY, VERY LOW.
SO I'M GETTING FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR.
SO, GEORGE, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, IF WE COULD JUST CHECK THE VOLUME THAT'S, UM, BEING SENT OUT TO, UH, OUR RESIDENTS, IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THEY CAN HEAR US, PLEASE.
WELL, LET ME TALK AND SEE IF THAT'S BETTER, BECAUSE I WAS MUTED BEFORE.
GEORGE, UH, I HAVE CABLE ALMOST UP, UH, MORE THAN 50 OR 60% VOLUME AND I CAN BARELY HEAR IT.
MIKE MILLS, YOUR AUDIO SOUNDS FINE ON THE ZOOM? YES.
IT'S JUST WHATEVER'S BEING TRANSMITTED OUT ON CABLE IS VERY LOW.
THEY FIX, THEY'LL PICK ON THE ROOF BUTTON.
SO I KNOW THERE ARE, I KNOW I JUST, PEOPLE ARE LISTENING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HEAR US.
SO, MIKE, DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA START? I, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, I APOLOGIZE.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HEARS ALL THE COMMENTS.
UM, FIRST LEMME THANK THE TOWN BOARD AND THE SUPERVISOR FOR HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO START TO, TO DISCUSS THIS.
AND THEN NEXT, APOLOGIZE IF YOU HEAR ME COOKING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING.
I HAVE, UH, 10 OF MY SON'S FRIENDS COMING OVER FOR A LETTER WRITING PARTY 'CAUSE HE'S IN HIS FOURTH, UH, WEEK OF BASIC TRAINING IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY.
SO, TO GET TO THE AMBULANCE THING, UM, THIS GOES BACK ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO, UH, TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU, WHERE THE HEADS OF THE FOUR AMBULANCE, COORS, AS WELL AS THE FIRE CHIEFS AND E M S PEOPLE FROM THE TWO VILLAGES, WHICH ARE HASTINGS AND ELMSFORD THAT DON'T HAVE COORS, THEY HAVE THE AMBULANCE AS PART OF THE, THE VILLAGE.
UM, A GROUP, THAT GROUP WAS PUT TOGETHER TO START TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE COULD IMPROVE ON OUR SERVICES, BECAUSE SOME OF US WERE STRUGGLING WITH MEMBERS STRUGGLING WITH CALLS, AND WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN.
I GOT INVOLVED IN IT BECAUSE THEY ASKED ME TO BE THE NUMBERS GUY AND THE LOGISTICS GUY, I'M NOT, YOU WON'T SEE ME RIDING AN AMBULANCE.
SO, OVER THE COURSE OF THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN CORE LEADERS, VILLAGE LEADERS, VILLAGE, FIRE CHIEFS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAS CHANGED OVER THE TIME.
WE PUT A PLAN TOGETHER AND AFTER, AND I, I'M TALKING TWO SUMMERS OF MEETINGS.
UM, WE PUT A PLAN TOGETHER THAT WE OVERTHOUGHT THE WHOLE THING.
AND THE PLAN WAS TO PUT TOGETHER POSSIBLY A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE RUN BY GREENBERG THAT WOULD PROVIDE MUTUAL AID TO THE VILLAGES, UM,
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WHEN NEEDED, AS WELL AS SUPPLEMENTING, UM, BASIC LIFE SERVICES IN GREENBERG PROPER.UM, WE CAME UP WITH THAT PLAN BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON BASICALLY THE A L S SYSTEM WHERE THE TOWN, UH, PARAMEDIC IS SHARED WITH THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGES.
SO INSTEAD OF RELINK RETHINKING THE WHEEL, IT WAS, MAYBE THIS WILL HELP.
AT THAT TIME, AND I'M TALKING FIVE YEARS AGO, UM, WE WERE BASICALLY, ALL THE VILLAGES AND CORES WERE KIND OF UNDER DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, AND IT HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY OVER FIVE YEARS.
IT'S CHANGED AS MUCH AS, UM, THE, THERE WAS ONE VILLAGE, WHICH I WON'T NAME THAT WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSAL, WHO NOW, AND I'M GONNA USE THE WORD DESPERATELY, NEEDS IT, UM, FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND IT'S HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REALLY BUDGETS OR VILLAGES.
IT HAS TO DO WITH MAKING SURE WE'RE OUT THERE SAVING LIVES.
UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE MINUTES IS A LIFE WHEN A MUTUAL AID CALL GETS CALLED OUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
SO TO KEEP THIS SIMPLE, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS SAY, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS IF, UH, A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE TO HELP OUR PEOPLE, NOT REPLACE THEM, BUT TO HELP THEM WHEN THE HELP IS NEEDED, WHAT'S IT GONNA COST AND HOW CAN WE SET IT UP? SO THE, THE PREMISE WAS TO SET IT UP THROUGH GREENBURG, THROUGH THE A BUDGET, THE CURRENT BUDGET, WHICH PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REEXAMINED AND EVERYTHING, UM, IS BASICALLY $3 OR LESS ON THE AVERAGE PROPERTY IN THE ENTIRE TOWN.
AND IT, IT'S COME TO A POINT WHERE SOME OF US REALLY NEED TO EXPLORE THIS SERVICE.
UM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING, I'M NOT LOOKING, OR I'M NOT SAYING I, THE GROUP WASN'T LOOKING TO CREATE A NEW AMBULANCE DISTRICT, A NEW AMBULANCE PROGRAM, NOT LOOKING TO REPLACE ANYBODY, JUST TRY TO HELP WITH A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE WHEN IT IS NEEDED, AND HOW TO DO IT THE MOST AFFORDABLE WAY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED AND ANSWERED.
UM, TONIGHT'S FORUM MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.
UM, I THINK THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, POSSIBLY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH OF THE AMBULANCE CORES, THE FIRE CHIEFS INVOLVED WITH ELMSFORD AND HASTINGS, AS WELL AS THE MAYORS AND ADMINISTRATORS FOR EACH VILLAGE, REALLY NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE GREENBERG POLICE WITH, UH, JAR AND HAMMER THIS THING OUT TO MAKE IT REALLY COST EFFECTIVE AND MAKE SENSE.
UM, AGAIN, I WANT, I JUST WANT TO RE REPEAT.
THIS PLAN WAS DEVISED TO HELP NOT REPLACE, AND I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS HERE.
I I BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS FROM, UH, AMBULANCE CORPS, UM, LEADERS AND MEMBERS IN THE PAST A FEW DAYS, UH, SINCE I POSTED THIS.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, A NEXT STEP WOULD BE, UM, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEER, UM, AMBULANCE CORPS, UM, MEMBERS, LEADERSHIP, UM, THE TOWN, THE POLICE, UM, YOU KNOW, JARED, UM, THE VILLAGE REPRESENTATIVES, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MEET AND TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, TRY, UM, IDENTIFYING, UM, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT CAME UP IN MY DISCUSSIONS WAS HOW MANY CALLS DOES GREENBERG NEED TO ANSWER TO JUSTIFY AN ADDITIONAL, UM, AMBULANCE, UH, WHILE WILL THE IMPACT BE TO, UM, THE V THE VOLUNTEER, UH, DEPARTMENTS.
UM, WHAT OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS, UM, COULD BE, UM, EXPLORED.
WE COULD BE LOOKING AT MUTUAL AID, UH, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY, UM, YOU KNOW, RESTRUCTURING, UH, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEERS, UM, GET, I BELIEVE IT'S 10% OFF THEIR, UH, THEIR TAXES, UM, IF THEY VOLUNTEER AND PUT IN THE TIME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT.
SO MAYBE THE TOWN WORKING WITH THE VILLAGES COULD HELP THE VOLUNTEERS ATTRACT AND RECRUIT AND KEEP, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE MEMBERS THAT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING.
I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE PERSON IN A VILLAGE, WHEN THEY GET THE SERVICE, UH, WHEN
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THEY GET HELP, THEY THINK THE TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THE AMBULANCE CORPS.IT'S AN ALL VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT THAT'S NOT FUNDED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYERS AT ALL.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO HELP EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS TO, UM, THE FACT THAT THE VOLUNTEERS ARE DONATING THEIR TIME.
UH, THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UP WILLING TO HELP, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, DAY NIGHTS, WEEKENDS, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE, THIS COMMITTEE, UH, COULD EXPLORE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MUTUAL AID, UH, THE PROTOCOL IN TERMS OF DISPATCHING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AID.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME VOLUNTEER OPERATIONS THAT ARE IN VERY GOOD HEALTHY SHAPE.
THERE'S OTHERS, UH, THAT ARE HAVING MAJOR, UH, PROBLEMS. SO MAYBE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE A MEETING AS A, A FOLLOW UP, WE COULD, UM, FIGURE OUT WAYS WHERE THOSE VOLUNTEER CORES THAT HAVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS COULD HELP THOSE, UM, NEIGHBORING VILLAGES THAT ARE, ARE FACING, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY AM PLEASED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU LIKE THE IDEA OR YOU, YOU'VE SUGGESTED, UM, HAVING, YOU KNOW, A MEETING, UH, WHERE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THIS AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, QUICK RESPONSES AND SAVING LIVES.
AND MAYBE THE CHIEF, UM, UH, UH, CHIEF MCNERNEY, WOULD YOU WANT HER, UM, UH, SAY ANYTHING AND THEN JARED, AND THEN WE COULD HEAR FROM THE VOLUNTEER, UH, UH, LEADERSHIP? UH, YES, PAUL, I WOULD, UH, GOOD, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT UP FRONT IS THAT THIS REQUEST TO EXPLORE THIS AMBULANCE SERVICE OR MU EXPANSION OF OUR MUTUAL AID, UH, WE WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE VILLAGES.
UM, J NEITHER JARED OR MYSELF OR OR ANYONE ON THE TOWN BOARD IS LOOKING TO SOLICIT THIS.
SO I RECEIVED SOME MIXED MESSAGES THAT SOME OF THE AMBULANCE CORES MAY, MAY THINK THAT THE TOWN IS, IS LOOKING TO DO THIS.
WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THE TOWN, UH, THE VILLAGES, UH, IF THERE'S A NEED FOR EXPANDED AMBULANCE SERVICE, I THINK IT WOULD BE MOST PRUDENT TO GO WITH THE TOWN.
BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE WE LOOKING TO SOLICIT THIS.
UM, ALSO, WE DO HAVE AN AMBULANCE THAT'S DEDICATED TO DO MUTUAL AID IN THE VILLAGES.
THE DISTINCTION IS IT'S NOT STAFFED, YOU KNOW, SO YOU TAKE STAFF FROM THE TOWN AND WE, WE KNOW THAT MUTUAL AID, THE PROCESS GOES THROUGH 60 CONTROL, AND WHEN WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE VILLAGES, UH, WITH AN AMBULANCE, WE DO SO.
AND WE HAVE ONE THAT'S EARMARKED, IT WAS FUNDED IN THE A LINE LONG BEFORE I WAS CHIEF, AND IT'S BEEN RECURRING PROBABLY JUST ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT IS EARMARKED TO GO INTO THE VILLAGES.
SO, UH, WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THE VILLAGES AND, UH, WE SUPPORT THE AMBULANCE CORES AS WELL.
AND WE KNOW THAT THIS ISSUE MAY HAVE BEEN EXACERBATED BY COVID AND GETTING VOLUNTEERS TO COME OUT.
IT COULD BE, UM, A, A SHORT TERM PROBLEM, BUT I, FOR SOME AMBULANCE CORES, BUT FOR SOME OTHERS, I KNOW THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
SO WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU AND WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU AND, UM, WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU.
SO DO YOU, CHIEF, DO YOU THINK THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE, UM, SOME SORT OF, UM, LIKE SMALL WORKING GROUP THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, CRUNCH THE NUMBERS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THIS, AND THEN BEFORE THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU MAYBE COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE, UH, TO THE TOWN BOARD? YES.
I, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE IF THE AMBULANCE CORES, UM, UH, CAN EXIST.
WE DON'T WANNA PUT THEM OUTTA BUSINESS.
SO, UH, IF WE CAN SUPPORT THEM AND SUPPLEMENT THEM, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD OPTION.
SO, SO THAT, SO THAT'S REALLY THE, I THINK WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, A, A GOOD, YOU KNOW, A GOOD SUGGESTION.
UM, THIS WAY WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS ANY PROBLEMS WE COULD PUBLICIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ADVANTAGES, UM, THE VOLUNTEERS OFFER AND, UH, THE BENEFITS TO BECOMING A VOLUNTEER.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF THE VOLUNTEERS FEEL THAT AN EXTRA AMBULANCE OR STAFF IS NEEDED, UH, THEN, AND THE VILLAGES FEEL IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER AND, AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
JARED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING AND THEN, UH, ANY OF THE, UH, VOLUNTEERS COULD SPEAK? UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
UM, THANKS FOR, UH, JOINING THE TOWN BOARD TONIGHT.
JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.
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UH, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND, UH, UH, MICHAEL MILLS HAS SAID, UM, THE ONE THING I WANNA REITERATE IS, IS THE IMPORTANCE OF VOLUNTEERS.I'M A LIFELONG VOLUNTEER FOR DOPPS FERRY.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, 20 PLUS YEARS.
AND OUR GOAL IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, PUSH ANYONE AWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY IS TO WORK WITH ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND, AND, AND MAKE A, A STRONGER AND BETTER SYSTEM.
UM, THAT THESE ARE DEFINITELY, UH, DIFFICULT TIMES.
AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR WITH, UH, COVID.
BUT OUR, OUR OVERALL GOAL IS TO SUPPORT THE VILLAGES HOWEVER THEY NEED IT, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, SAVE LIVES AND REDUCE RESPONSE TIMES.
AND I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.
AND I, I THINK, UH, UM, UH, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND, AND, UH, MICHAEL MILLS REALLY JUST HIT IT ON THE HEAD, SO THANK YOU, MR. FIRE.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I GUESS I'LL SPEAK, UH, THIS IS GREG, CAPTAIN OF BARNSLEY VAC.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING US.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US ALL TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND GREENBERG.
I THINK THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, IS OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.
SO MOVING FORWARD, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA FOR US TO GET TOGETHER, MEET HASH THINGS OUT, FIGURE THINGS OUT, AND MAKE IT, UH, MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? NO.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD AT AVAC, AND I AGREE WITH MY CAPTAIN, AND I THINK, UH, GETTING TOGETHER WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY.
HI, I AM, UH, JOHN LINDNER, CHIEF OF THE HASTINGS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE RUN THE, UH, E M S IN, UH, VILLAGE.
UH, I WAS PART OF THAT GROUP, UH, FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO.
UH, I THINK WE DID A LOT OF LEGWORK THEN, UH, THAT CAN BE USED FOR THIS.
AND I, I DO AGREE THAT A SMALLER, UH, WORKING GROUP WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS, AND THEN BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.
AND, UH, HASTINGS, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT WORKING GROUP, YOU SAY? YES.
I'M CAPTAIN OF THE IRVINGTON VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE CORPS.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO PAUL AND THE VILLAGE BOARD, UH, FOR ALLOWING US VOLUNTEERS TO COME IN ON YOUR MEETING AND EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS FOR, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD THAT WERE GOING ON.
UM, I LIKE WHAT I HEARD FROM CHIEF MCNERNEY, UM, AND FROM JARED IN TERMS OF HOW THINGS WOULD GO, AND AS PAUL HAD EXPLAINED THINGS, UH, SO THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A FEW MISUNDERSTANDINGS AS THINGS TRAVELED DOWN THE PATH.
UM, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH, WE, WE, I, I AM RETIRED FROM GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WORKED THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, I HAVE OVER 40 YEARS WITH I A AND I'VE BEEN CAPTAIN HERE FOR OVER 10.
SO I'M ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE OLD DOGS, AS YOU COULD PUT IT.
UM, THE IDEA OF ALL THE CAPTAINS HAVE SITTING DOWN WITH A MEETING WITH PAUL AND WITH THE BOARD AND WITH GREENBERG POLICE, ET CETERA, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HASHED OUT.
UM, I, FOR ONE, WE MET WITH ARDSLEY AND A FEW OTHER CAPTAINS APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS AGO, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING AMONGST, UH, KIND OF LIKE A CAPTAIN'S ASSOCIATION MEETING TO DISCUSS A FLY AMBULANCE AS WE REFERRED TO IT, SUCH AS THE PARAMEDIC FLY CARD THAT GREENBERG ALREADY HAS FOR OUR VILLAGES.
AND WE WERE, WE KIND OF LOOKED INTO IT, JARED WAS PART OF IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, HAVING SOME KIND OF EXTRA AMBULANCE THAT COULD ASSIST IF THINGS GOT VERY, VERY BUSY, UM, FROM WHAT WE WERE TOLD WAY BACK THEN, IT WOULD TAKE ALL SIX VILLAGES TO AGREE ON IT.
AND SINCE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, NOTHING CAME TO FRUITION.
UM, IRVINGTON IN ITSELF HAS NOT HAD TO CALL MUTUAL AID INTO OUR VILLAGE FOR ANY CALLS.
WE HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY SELF-SUSTAINED.
WE NOT ONLY HANDLE ALL OF OUR CALL VOLUME, UH, GIVE OR TAKE ONE OR TWO THINGS AS RECENTLY AS TWO CALLS CAME IN WITHIN 60 SECONDS OF EACH OTHER THE OTHER DAY.
SO WE WERE FORCED TO CALL IN A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE.
WE CAN'T BE IN TWO PLACES AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE HANDLED NOT ONLY ALL OF OUR CALLS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WITH DOBBS FERRY GOING THROUGH A RESTRUCTURING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UH, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN THE FULL COVERAGE FOR THE VILLAGE OF DOBBS FERRY AND HANDLING ALL OF THEIR AMBULANCE CALLS TO POINT.
WE HAVE HANDLED OVER A HUNDRED AMBULANCE CALLS FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER SO FAR.
SO YES, IT HAS BEEN BUSIER FOR US, BUT IRVINGTON'S A VERY SMALL VILLAGE, AND WE DON'T GET A
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HUGE CALL VOLUME.I WOULD SAY ON AVERAGE, WE HANDLE ABOUT 35 CALLS, 30 TO 35 CALLS IN OUR VILLAGE A MONTH.
AND WE MUTUAL AID, UH, FREQUENTLY TO DOBBS FERRY TERRYTOWN.
ON RARE OCCASION, ARDSLEY, VERY RARE OCCASION.
WE WERE MUTUAL LEADING A LOT TO HASTINGS.
UM, AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
WE'RE ALL E M S AGENCIES, AND I, I KNOW MOST OF ALL THE PEOPLE, UH, I'VE BEEN, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND I, I REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH EVERYONE.
AND, UM, I, I SPEAK TO DOBBS VERY FREQUENTLY, AND THEY ARE WORKING ON RESTRUCTURING AND GETTING THEIR AGENCY, YOU KNOW, BACK UP AND RUNNING, WHICH IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD THING.
UH, HATE TO SEE ANYBODY GO OUT.
UM, SO WE'RE HANDLING WHAT WE HAVE TO HANDLE, AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR US.
BUT I ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, IF EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN SAYING TONIGHT, I DON'T WANNA SEE ANYONE LOSE A MUTUAL AID OPPORTUNITY.
I, I WELCOME GREENBERG INTO A MUTUAL AID SYSTEM, BUT I WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE GREENBERG SOLELY PICK UP ALL THE MUTUAL AID.
HARRY DIDN'T HAVE AN AMBULANCE THAT GREENBERG WOULD BE FIRST UP TO MUTUAL AID, AS OPPOSED TO CALLING THE, UH, ADJOINING VILLAGE FOR ASSISTANCE.
BECAUSE WE DO, AS AGENCIES RELY ON THE REVENUE RECOVERY THAT WE GET, UH, TO SURVIVE.
IT'S, IT'S OUR INCOME, BASICALLY.
AND WE DO NOT GET ALL, I WON'T GO INTO A WHOLE BILLING ISSUE OF WHAT THE AGENCIES GET, BUT WE COULD BILL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR AN AMBULANCE RIDE.
YOU ONLY GET WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DECIDE THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT MAKING A FORTUNE, BUT YOU'RE MAKING ENOUGH TO SURVIVE.
UH, AS PAUL DID MENTION EARLY, UH, WHEN HE STARTED THIS MEETING WAS THAT WE IRVINGTON, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE DOBBS FERRY.
ARDSLEY TERRYTOWN, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD INCLUDE ELMSFORD OR HASTINGS AS THEY ARE FIRE DEPARTMENT AMBULANCE COURSE PER SE.
UH, WE RELY ON OUR REVENUE RECOVERY AND DONATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE NOT FUNDED BY ANY RESIDENT TAX DOLLARS.
WE ARE NOT FUNDED BY ANY VILLAGE GOVERNMENT.
SO WE DON'T GET, NOT A PENNY FROM ANY OF THAT.
AND PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH RAISING MONEY FOR ALL OF THE CORES IS THAT THE MAKEUP OF OUR VILLAGES HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN, AND THEY COME FROM PLACES WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR E M S.
AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE UP HERE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
BUT, UH, FOR OUR VILLAGES, THE TAXPAYERS DO NOT PAY FOR THEIR E M S SERVICE, NOT A DIME.
THE VILLAGE GOVERNMENTS DO NOT PAY I A C FOR OUR SERVICES.
WE PROVIDE OUR SERVICES IN, IN A SENSE, FREE OF CHARGE.
UH, THOUGH WE DO BILL THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES, AND IT'S CALLED THE SOFT BILLING.
WE DON'T GO AFTER ANYBODY FOR THE MONEY OR THEIR INABILITY TO PAY.
OKAY? SO IF, IF, UH, THE IRVINGTON HISTORICAL SOCIETY DID A VERY BIG EXPOSE ON I V A C, PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE, AND IT WAS HANDLED BY SOME, UH, VERY SMART PEOPLE AND VERY GOOD HISTORIANS WHO DISCOVERED THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE 1960S IN THE 1970S WERE FAR MORE GENEROUS WITH THEIR DONATION DONATIONS TO THE AMBULANCE CORPS THAN THEY ARE IN THE 1990S.
UM, AND EVERY YEAR WE SEE DONATIONS GO DOWN MORE AND MORE BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF THE VILLAGE, AS I SAID, HAS CHANGED.
AND PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE FIRM BELIEF.
AND I WOULD, IF I HAD TO GIVE YOU A FAIR ESTIMATE, I HAVE NOTHING TO BACK IT UP, BUT JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE IN OUR TOWN, 90% OF OUR VILLAGES THINK THEIR TAXES PAY FOR US.
AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME IS FOR HELP WITH GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT YOUR AGENCIES RELY ON DONATIONS.
AND NOBODY SEEMS TO WANT US TO HELP US GET THE WORD OUT.
WE CAN'T GET REACH OUT TO EVERYONE.
SO I HAVE SPOKEN TO PAUL ABOUT THIS, AND PAUL SAID HE WOULD BE WILLING TO ASSIST IN, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME OF THIS OUT, BUT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW.
SO I'M HERE TODAY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL AMBULANCE SCORES, IRVINGTON, ORLEY, DOS FERRY TERRYTOWN.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, I THINK SOMEONE'S WITH THE HASTINGS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE FUNDED.
I'M NOT SURE BY YOUR VILLAGES, MR. LINDER.
UH, OUR, UH, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES ARE, BUT WE, NONE OF OUR MEMBERS ARE PAID EITHER, AND WE DON'T BILL.
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I DON I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE SAME WITH THE, UH, VAX.WE ALSO HAVE PAID PER DIEMS. THEY ARE ON A PER DIEM BASIS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, ET CETERA.
AND, UH, WE HAD NO CHOICE IN THAT MATTER, TO PUT PAID PER DIEMS ON BECAUSE, UH, AS WE ALL KNOW, ACROSS AMERICA, VOLUNTEERISM IS DOWN.
AND ESPECIALLY WITH COVID NOW, TRYING TO GET VOLUNTEERS IN, UH, NOBODY WANTS TO CATCH A VIRUS.
NOBODY WANTS TO CATCH A DISEASE.
UM, INCLUDING SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, AND THEY ARE STILL WITH OUR AGENCY.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WHILE COVID IS PRESENT, THEIR I THEIR FULL-TIME PAY EMPLOYMENT TO EARN THEIR LIVING IS NOT PERMITTING THEM TO RIDE ON AN AMBULANCE CORPS FOR FEAR OF GETTING C O V I D IN CONTACT WITH ALL THESE SICK PEOPLE AND BRINGING THAT INTO THEIR RESEARCH FACILITY OR OFFICE SPACE, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOWN EVEN MORE VOLUNTEERS BEING ABLE TO MAN OUR AMBULANCES.
BUT I DO HAVE PER DIEMS, AND WE DO HAVE VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY'RE ALL PUTTING IN A LOT OF HARD WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT GETS AN AMBULANCE WHEN THEY NEED ONE.
AND WE HAVE NOT FAILED, NOT ONE TIME TO PROVIDE AN AMBULANCE FOR ANY CALL WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, WHETHER THAT BE A CALL IN IRVINGTON TERRYTOWN, DOBBS FERRY, HARDLEY HASTINGS, AND MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE EVEN A SLEEPY HOLLOW OR ELMSFORD, WHEN THEY GOT OVERWHELMED.
SO I, I THINK I'VE SAID MY PIECE.
I LOOK VERY FORWARD TO A MEETING WITH CHIEF MCNERNEY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND JARED ROSENBERG AND PAUL FINER AND YOUR WHOLE TOWN BOARD FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN MEET IN A SOMEWHAT OF A PRIVATE MEETING, UH, WHERE WE CAN JUST FEEL OPEN TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
I, I'M JUST ASKING, UH, CHIEF, WOULD YOU BE, UH, CHIEF MAGNEY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UM, LIKE HEAD UP THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE A MEETING AND WE COULD THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HASH OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT ACTION STEPS THE TOWN COULD TAKE TO, UM, HELP PUBLICIZE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS OF BECOMING A VOLUNTEER, UM, HELPING THE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, RAISE, UH, FUNDS OR OBTAIN, UH, GRANTS.
I KNOW, UM, UH, YOU MCCALLEY AND YOU, MYSELF, WE MET WITH, UM, SENATOR COUSINS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND WE GOT AN AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW, DONATED, WORKED WITH, UH, UH, WITH, UH, THE MAYOR OF LEY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ON THAT MAYBE THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO FOR, UH, FOR THE VOLUNTEERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK THAT WE COULD REALLY MAKE THIS A, YOU KNOW, A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY AND HAVE A STRONGER VOLUNTEER FORCE AFTER THESE MEETINGS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT GREENBURG MAINTAINS ITS REPUTATION OF BEING LIKE THE SAFEST PLACE IN, UH, IN THE COUNTRY TO GET A HEART ATTACK.
I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY ONE, UM, IN THE COUNTRY, IN THE STATE, UH, THAT HAS IT.
AND THEY, THEY ACTUALLY DID SAY THAT WE WERE THE BEST PLACE FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS GONNA GET A, GET SICK TO GET SICK BECAUSE OF THE, THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE E M S PROGRAM.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY.
I THINK THEY ACTUALLY DID MENTION HEART ATTACK AS OPPOSED TO JUST GETTING SICK.
DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THE ARTICLE AND I, UH, CAN'T FIND IT.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE BETTER, UH,
BETTER ABILITY OF GETTING COPIES, THAT WOULD BE A, A NICE ARTICLE TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.
BUT THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO TO HELP PUBLICIZE, UM, THAT IT'S NOT TAXPAYER FUNDS THAT'S BEING USED FOR THE AMBULANCE SERVICE.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M ALREADY PAYING MY TAXES.
WHY SHOULD I CONTRIBUTE? SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL INFORMATION TO GET OUT.
AND THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THEY MAY BE NURSES, THEY MAY BE, UH, DOCTORS, THEY MAY BE WORKING IN HOSPITALS, AND IF THEY REALIZE THAT THEY COULD GET 10% OFF THEIR TAXES, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES BY PARTICIPATING.
AND I THINK, AND THIS, I'M NOT SURE YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO PEOPLE IN A FAMILY COULD THAT,
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WOULD THAT BE 20% OFF? YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG, A BIG CHUNK OFF A REAL ESTATE TAX FOR VOLUNTEERING.I WAS, I WAS A PART, AND ACTUALLY I HAVE THE MINUTES OF ALL THE MEETINGS WE MET IN, IN THE PAST REGARDING THIS WHOLE PROJECT.
THIS WHOLE PROJECT WAS NOT ACCEPTED ALL OVER.
TERRYTOWN DID NOT LIKE IT, BUT THEY WENT WITH IT AND THEY CAME TO THE MEETING.
SOME OF THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS WERE REALLY HESITANT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT DECIDE RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE WAY I SEE IT, WE HAVE ENOUGH AMBULANCES ON ALL THE VILLAGES.
WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO WORK IS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE AMBULANCE COURSE.
THAT'S WHAT, ACTUALLY, IT IS A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT.
IT MEANS IF I AM TIRED, I COULD CALL IRVINGTON AND SAY, GUYS, GUYS, CAN YOU COVER ME? IF THERE IS COMMUNICATION, WE COULD COVER EACH OTHER.
ONE AMBULANCE THAT GREENBERG IS GONNA COME WITH IT AS A MUTUAL AID IS NOT GONNA REALLY HELP BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AMBULANCE.
AND IN REALITY, IN REALITY, IF POST COME TO SHOP AND I GOTTA PUT A PER DIEM ON MY AMBULANCE, THEN I GOTTA PUT A ADEEM.
THE WHOLE ISSUE IN HERE IS THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US ALL AS AMBULANCES AND BETWEEN GREENBERG.
I MEAN, IF THERE IS, WE COULD MAKE REGULAR MEETINGS, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES.
IT WAS AMAZING THAT I HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT AN ISSUE LIKE THIS AND A ROLLOUT LIKE THAT ON FACEBOOK.
USUALLY I WILL GET AN EMAIL OR A LETTER INTO OUR AMBULANCES SAYING THERE IS AN ISSUE WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
ALL OF A SUDDEN MY KIDS COME SAYING, DAD, DAD, DAD.
I SAID, WHAT HAPPENED? HE SAYS, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE AMBULANCE? YOU GUYS ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS? I SAID, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SO I'M LEAVING NOW, THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT AN AMBULANCE AND ABOUT CHANGES, AND WE DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US AND THE A L S IN GREENBERG? THE LAST TIME WE HAD, WE HAD AN ISSUE AND IT CAME INTO YOUR OFFICE.
WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES AND WE DISCUSS IT, IT SHOULD NOT PUT US APART.
THE CHIEF LIVES IN ALEY AND HE'S IN GREENBURG.
JARED LIVES IN
I LIVE IN ALEY AND I WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE ARE ALL TWO FOR THE BENEFIT.
AND IF I SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE DO NOT BE OFFENDED BY IT.
JUST TAKE IT AS AN ADVICE AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
I MEAN, I STILL HAVE THE, THE STUFF, AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED MORE, WE AMBULANCE CALL COULD HELP EACH OTHER.
I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, WE JUST, WE ARE GETTING AN AMBULANCE DELIVERED ON MONDAY.
WE WORK HARD TO GET THINGS DONE, AND WE COULD SHARE OUR RESOURCES WITH OTHERS, AND WE EXPECT THEM TO SHARE IT WITH US.
IT SOUNDS LIKE I AM GONNA BE THE HERO.
I AM JUMPING IN AND I'M GONNA SAVE THE DAY.
OKAY? YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA SAVE THE DAY, BUT GUESS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, AS MICHAEL KNOWS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL CREW ON WITH FULL MEDICAL BENEFIT WITH FULL, FULL, FULL, FULL EVERYTHING.
WHILE I COULD PUT A CREW WITH PER DIEM ON A 10 99 WITH $12 AN HOUR, THAT IS NOT GONNA COST THE VILLAGE ANYTHING.
THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO.
THE ONLY WAY WE DO IT, IF YOU TALK TO US AND WE TALK TO YOU, IF YOU NOT HAPPY WITH US FOR CERTAIN THING, COME SAY TO, THIS IS THE ISSUE, GUYS, IN OUR IN LEY, WE NEED TO DO THIS, THIS, CAN YOU HELP US OUT? BUT DON'T REALLY LEAVE US OUT LIKE THIS.
I AM OPEN TO GO INTO ANY MEETINGS.
I'M OPEN TO GO ANYWHERE AS LONG AS WE WORK TOGETHER.
AND I DON'T VOLUNTEER BECAUSE I WANNA BE HERE.
NO, I VOLUNTEER BECAUSE I'M A NEIGHBOR AND I WANNA BE GOOD TO MY NEIGHBOR.
AND I HOPE MY KIDS ONE DAY WILL DO THE SAME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
I THINK WHAT I TAKE AWAY FROM, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO SIT DOWN AROUND THE TABLE, AROUND A ZOOM IN THESE TIMES THAT WE SIT AND WE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE OURSELVES BETTER, AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SERVICING GREENBERG, UM, TO THE FULLEST AS WE ALWAYS INTEND TO.
SO I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT, I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR NEXT STEPS IS THAT, UM, COUNCIL, WELL, THE BOARD AND, AND THE E M S COME TOGETHER, SIT DOWN, HAVE A CONVERSATION, FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AND WORK AS ONE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK? SUPERVISOR FINER.
I BELIEVE I GOT A CHAT FROM JEFFREY SHERWIN WHO HAS TO SPEAK.
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HI, UH, I'M A MEMBER OF, UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF UNINCORPORATED AND, UH, LITTLE BIT, I GUESS.AND BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH CHIEF MCNERNEY OVER THE YEARS AND, UH, AND OTHER ACTIVISM, I'VE BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF AN E M S AFICIONADO.
UM, FIRST THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERISM LIKE THAT.
IT'S, IT'S GREAT, UH, UH, WHILE I LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED, AND IF I WERE TO CALL 9 1 1, I EXPECT THAT THE GREENBURG POLICE WOULD COME AND SAVE ME.
I KNOW THAT I HAVE FRIENDS IN ALL OF THOSE VILLAGES, AND IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN TO ME OVER THERE, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ME.
UM, I I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN, THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE WAYS IN WHICH THE, UM, THE DIFFERENT VILLAGES OPERATE WHEN IT COMES TO BILLING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO A SHARED SERVICES APPROACH FOR E M S, WHICH ABSOLUTELY MAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF SENSE WHERE EVERYBODY SORT OF WORKS TOGETHER, UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY BE A WIN-WIN.
BUT IT COULD ALSO, BASED UPON HOW IT GETS PUT TOGETHER, BE A VERY, VERY, VERY BIG LOSE FOR UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG.
AND I JUST SORT OF WANNA HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT BEFORE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA EMBARK ON A PRIVATE CLOSED MEETING COMMITTEE SITUATION WHERE NOBODY'S GONNA HAVE A VIS VISIBILITY AS TO WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, THE INFORMATION IS PUBLIC AND IT MAKES ITS WAY INTO THAT MEETING.
FIRST THING IS, THERE ARE SIX AMBULANCES THAT GREENBERG PURCHASES OUT OF THE, A BUDGET THAT ARE TOWN WIDE THAT THE VILLAGES HAVE ACCESS TO.
AND SO IT TO SAY THAT THE AMBULANCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO VILLAGES AND UNINCORPORATED OR NOT PAID FOR BY TAXES IS NOT ACCURATE.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY, I'M SURE, A AMBULANCES THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THE VAX, BUT THE VILLAGES HAVE PAID FOR AT LEAST THREE AMBULANCES THAT THE TOWN OWNS AND IT'S IN, AND IT'S IN THE 2020 BUDGET.
THING TWO IS EVERYBODY IN UNINCORPORATED GETS THE, GETS THE, THE SOFT BILLING DONE.
SO WHILE SOME VILLAGES MAY SOFT BILL AND OTHERS DON'T, WE IN THE VIL IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, ALL HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR RIDES, OR AT LEAST OUR INSURANCE COMPANIES DO.
AND THREE, THE THE PEOPLE WHO DRIVE THOSE BUS DRIVE, THOSE, UH, THOSE AMBULANCES ARE POLICE OFFICERS THAT COME OUT OF THE B BUDGET AND CIVILIAN EMTS THAT ARE ALSO OUT OF THE B BUDGET, WHICH MEANS IT'S UNINCORPORATED ONLY THAT'S PAYING FOR THEM.
AND IN 2017, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND I HAD SOME BACK AND FORTH ABOUT SOME DATA, AND WE, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT IN THAT YEAR, GREENBERG PD PROVIDED 270 RIDES FREE OF CHARGE TO THE VILLAGES OF ELMSFORD HASTINGS ARDSLEY, AND I BELIEVE DOBBS FERRY.
AND ALTHOUGH I CAN CHECK IT, UM, WHEN THOSE SAME VILLAGES ONLY PROVIDED 24 RIDES IN REVERSE, NOW WE GET THE FACT THAT IT'S VOLUNTEER.
BUT MUTUAL AID, I, I BELIEVE, HAS A CONCEPT OF RECIPROCITY.
AND IN THIS SITUATION, WE HAVE THREE FACTORS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
ONE, WE'RE PAYING FOR, WE'RE PAYING OUT OF TAX DOLLARS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING THOSE, DRIVING THOSE, DRIVING THOSE BUSES.
WHEREAS IN, IN THE VILLAGES, YOU KNOW, IT'S VOLUNTEER AND THAT'S AMAZING.
TWO, THE VILLAGES OWN THE AMBULANCES THAT ARE COMING FROM MUTUAL AID.
UH, AND THREE, THERE'S THIS DISCREPANCY AS TO WHEN PEOPLE ARE PAYING AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING.
AND ALL OF THESE THINGS REALLY DO MUDDY UP THE WATER ON TOP OF THE ISSUE OF RECIPROCITY.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT MAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF SENSE, I, I HOPE IT MAKES SENSE FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE RIGHT HERE I SEE THAT WE HAVE VILLAGE REPRESENTATION HERE, BUT I DON'T SEE UNINCORPORATED MEMBER RESIDENTS WHO FRANKLY ARE REALLY LOOKING TO OUR TOWN WHERE THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS ARE IN THE VILLAGES REPRESENTING OUR INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH IN A SHARED SERVICES APPROACH, WHICH IS DEFINITELY THE MODERN WAY OF GOING, ENDS UP BEING GOOD FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
JEFFREY, IF I MAY JUMP IN REALLY QUICKLY, THIS WAS A FANTASTIC OUTLINE.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING FROM THE STATISTICS.
UH, I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS FOR LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE, OR RATHER THIS YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE.
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HAS COVERED A HUNDRED CALLS FOR, IN GREENBERG AND 95 CALLS, UH, LAST YEAR.SO A HUNDRED CALLS A YEAR BEFORE IN 95 LAST YEAR FOR UNINCORPORATED OR JUST, OR, OR JUST, OR, OR, OR GREENBURG TOWN WIDE.
SO HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS TO UNINCORPORATED CALLED AS MUTUAL? WE WERE CALLED IN AS MUTUAL AID.
BUT TO, BUT THAT WAS TO OTHER VILLAGES TOO.
NO, THIS IS GREENBERG SPECIFICALLY.
HASTINGS AND, UM, AND IRVINGTON AND, AND ELMS STREET SERVES, UH, I'M SAYING HASTINGS HAS A AMBULANCE CORPS AND SERVING, UH, PARTS OF, UH, DONALD PARK IN THAT AREA.
OH, UH, THE, OUR AMBULANCE IS NOT CONTRACTED FOR DONALD PARK.
FIRE IS, UH, DONALD PARK, NOT THE AMBULANCE.
WE HAD DO RESPOND FOR MUTUAL AID AND, UH, I I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE PUT OUT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE A L S RESPONSES OR AMBULANCES? BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T THINK WE GET THAT MANY B L SS UH, UH, RESPONSES FROM GREENBURG INTO THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON MUTUAL AID.
WE DO, AS PART OF THE VILLAGE.
THE VILLAGE TOWNS GET THE, UH, PARAMEDICS.
BUT, UH, IF B S AMBULANCES, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE GET MUCH.
SO I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THOSE NUMBERS YOU HAVE AND, UH, CONFIRM THEM.
SO THIS IS B L S NO, NO, YOU ARE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, GR THE, THE NUMBERS OF GREENBERG B L S RESPONSES INTO THE VILLAGE TOWN KIDS.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I I I, I KNOW IN HASTINGS WE DON'T GET MANY, WE DO GET THE PARAMEDIC RESPONSES, BUT NOT THE BBL SS RESPONSES THAT OFTEN.
UM, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS IF WE COULD GET 'EM FROM THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S SPEAKING PRIOR.
YEAH, I MEAN, I GOT 'EM FROM CHIEF MCNERNEY AND THE, AND THE, IN THE QUESTION LINE, I'M LOOKING AT 'EM NOW, WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR B L S TRANSPORT.
SO THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD THEN.
AND SPECIFICALLY THE VILLAGES THAT WERE LISTED IN THAT WERE HARDLEY PROVIDED TWO, TWO RUNS.
UH, ELMSFORD PROVIDED 21 RUNS.
TERRYTOWN PROVIDED THREE RUNS.
LEMME CLEAR THIS OUT FOR YOU SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND.
THERE IS A DUAL RESPONSE BETWEEN US AND BETWEEN GREENBERG.
AND THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE BETWEEN US AND GREENBERG TWO, THE AMBULANCE THAT, THAT LEY HAVE AND
AND, UH, AND WE BOUGHT OUR OWN AMBULANCES.
THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH GREENBERG.
GREENBERG NEVER GAVE US A PENNY TO BUY AN AMBULANCE.
OKAY? SO WE DO THAT WORK AND WE GET THE AMBULANCE, THE AMBULANCES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR A L SS AND WE PAY FROM OUR TAXES FOR A L SS.
SO I WANNA BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORK, THIS WHOLE THING IS ALL A MIXED UP AND WE ALL ARE IN IT.
AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THIS SHOULD NOT BE EVEN DISCUSSED HERE.
I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD JUST SIT THERE AND TALK, FIGURE THINGS OUT, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT, COMMUNICATION IS GONNA TAKE US A MILE AWAY.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SAY HE DID.
THIS IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND WE ALL COVERED EACH OTHER.
YOU UNDERSTAND? THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, I BELIEVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BEING FIRE, N E M S, WE DO BOTH IN HASTINGS ON THE FIRE END, WE HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH ALL THE CHIEFS IN THE BATTALIONS WHERE WE SIT DOWN, WE GO OVER ISSUES, PROBLEMS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COMMUNICATE MORE THAN MONTHLY, BUT WE HAVE AN ACTUAL MEETING MONTHLY WITH ALL THE CHIEFS IN THE VILLAGE TOWNS THAT ARE IN OUR BATTALION.
THE OTHER THING WE DO DIFFERENTLY, UH, SOME TOWNS USE IT, SO TOWNS DON'T, BUT WE'RE, WE U WE'RE USING 60 CONTROL FOR OUR PRIMARY DISPATCHER.
SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE FIRE END, IT WORKS REAL GREAT.
'CAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY'S ON IT.
BUT E M S SOME ARE STICKING WITH THE VILLAGES.
AND AS THE, YOU KNOW, BEING DISPATCHED BY THE VILLAGE AND NOW THE M S AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, LIKE, YOU GUYS HAD THAT SHOOTING UP THERE IN ARDSLEY, UH, A WHILE BACK AND THERE WAS NO, UH, MASS, YOU KNOW, UH, MUTUAL FREQUENCY, UH, AMONGST SOME OF THE VILLAGE AMBULANCES.
WHEREAS IF THEY'RE ALL USING 60 CONTROL, IT'S ALL MUTUAL.
EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME DIVISION, EVERYBODY HEARS WHAT'S GOING ON.
EASY COMMUNICATION AND, UH, EASY COORDINATION.
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YOU KNOW, I I, YOU KNOW, YOU AS THE E M S IN THE RIVER TOWNS, WHEN WE DO ALL GET TOGETHER AND STILL DISCUSS THIS, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ALSO DISCUSS KIND OF HAVING A BATTALION OR ZONE, OR WHATEVER YOU YOU WANT TO CALL IT, MEETING MONTHLY OF THE HEADS OF THE E M S VOLUNTEER, E M S AGENCIES AND THE PARAMEDICS.I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT CLEARS A LOT OF ISSUES UP BEFORE THEY BECOME ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, SHARES A LOT OF INFORMATION AND, UM, WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS WORKING APART.
HEY, JOHN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, SO YOU MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED IT'S COUNCILMAN JACKSON.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE MEETINGS JUST WITH THE VILLAGES.
IS UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG OR CHIEF MC ERNIE'S STAFF, ARE THEY INCLUDED IN THESE MEETINGS OR INVITATION SENT TO THEM? BECAUSE I FEEL, AND MAYBE WE, AND MAYBE WE CAN BE SAYING THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW, THAT IT APPEARS THAT THE VILLAGES IS HAVING A SEPARATE MEETING WHERE MAYBE UNINCORPORATED NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED AS WELL, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING.
OR MAYBE PERHAPS WE COULD HELP.
SO I THINK, I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT I SAID.
ON THE FIRE END, THE BATTALION, WHICH INCLUDES HARTSDALE, UH, UH, FAIRVIEW AND, UH, GREENVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENTS FIRE, NOT FIRE, EVEN FIRE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE COULD USE THAT AS A MODEL FOR THE E M S AGENCIES IN THIS AREA.
AND WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HEADS OF THE AGENCIES SIT DOWN AND THEIR ASSISTANTS MEET MONTHLY, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IS EXCHANGED.
A LOT OF ISSUES ARE, UH, UH, STRAIGHTENED OUT PRETTY QUICKLY BEFORE THEY BECOME SOMETHING BIG.
AND, AND TRENDS CAN BE CORRECTED, YOU KNOW, WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN YOU'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND SHARING INFORMATION AS, UH, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARLEY SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY BECOME BIGGER PROBLEMS. BUT THE E M S WORLD IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S IN THEIR SEPARATE LITTLE THING.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN WHATEV WHATEVER EXPANSE YOU WANT TO COVER, THE, THE AMBULANCE CORPS AND GREENBURG, UM, HASTINGS WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT.
AND I THINK IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HELP ALL THE DIFFERENT TOWNS AND VILLAGES WORK THINGS OUT AND, YOU KNOW, THEN IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD WORK AS A GROUP TOGETHER.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I DID, I DID MISUNDERSTAND THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD, AT THIS POINT, THIS, THIS IS A GREAT SEGUE WHERE WE NEED TO BRIDGE THE GAP OF COMMUNICATION WITH UNINCORPORATED IN THE VILLAGES.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ARE ONE TOWN.
IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THIS NEEDS TO BE A PRIVATE MEETING AND WHY IT WOULDN'T, WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY TO SORT OF BE LIKE, TO GET THE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THE PLANS ARE BEFORE IT BECOMES RATIFIED AND GOES TO EACH, EACH, EACH INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITY.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA, UM, UH, TAKE ANY, UH, IF, IF THEY WANT TALK IT OUT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE EXPERTS, THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE POLICE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, TALK OUT, TALK ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PRIVATELY, AND THEN COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN WE WOULD, UH, PUBLICLY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ANY, UM, ON ANY DIS ON ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANT TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER TO RESPOND HERE.
WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS. MAYBE THEY DON'T WANNA PUBLICIZE, UM, UH, RECRUITMENT PROBLEMS OR, UM, UH, MAINTAIN.
BUT ARE THEY GONNA BE DISCUSSING RECRUITING PROBLEMS OR ARE THEY GONNA BE DISCUSSING HOW TO FUND THE OPERATIONS? WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT, WE, I WANT THEM TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I WANT THEM TO TALK ABOUT RECRUITMENT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MAINTAINING.
UM, UM, BUT IN THAT SITUATION, PAUL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE USE OF UNINCORPORATED AND TOWN WIDE TAX DOLLARS.
AND SO IT'S A DIFFERENT THING THAN VOLUNTEERISM AND HOW TO ATE SORT OF COORDINATE TOGETHER.
AND I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT IN THE 2020 BUDGET IN TOWN WIDE, THERE ARE, THERE IS DEBT SERVICE FOR SIX AMBULANCES HERE.
JEFFREY, I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WANT.
YOU THINK I WANNA RAISE TAXES.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE FIGHTING THIS MUTUAL AID.
WE DON'T USE ANY TAX DOLLAR FROM YOU OR FROM ANYBODY.
WE ARE A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT RUNS ITSELF.
WE DO NOT USE ONE PENNY FROM ANY TAX DOLLARS.
SO WHATEVER YOU HAVE ON YOUR ID, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT AND EXPLAIN TO YOU.
OBVIOUSLY IF YOU JUST, TONY, TONY, I, I, I, I'M SPEAKING AND, AND WHAT I SAID, WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE WAS THERE'S A 2020 ADOPTED BUDGET TOWN WIDE THAT EVERYBODY IN THE GREEN IN GREENBERG PAYS FOR.
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NOT A VILLAGE TAX, IT'S A TOWN WIDE TAX.AND IN THERE, THERE IS A LISTING OF SIX AMBULANCES THAT IS PAID FOR IN YOUR TOWN WIDE TAXES.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT IS A TOWN-WIDE, UH, BUDGET.
UH, I THINK, I THINK WHAT THIS MEETING SHOWS IS THAT THERE'S DESPERATELY NEED, UH, NEED, THERE'S DESPERATE NEED TO HAVE THIS SMALLER GROUP WORK ON THESE ISSUES.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE ALEY C CORPS, AMBULANCE CORPS, WHICH IS THE AREA WHERE I LIVE, THEY, THAT'S THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
THEY COME TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE VILLAGE VOLUNTEER, E M SS, IT'S NOT SOLELY THE VILLAGE VOLUNTEER E M S, THEY DO MORE THAN THEIR OWN VILLAGE.
AND SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T GET INTO AN US AND THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONE TOWN.
WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA KEEP UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE ONE TOWN.
AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HAVING A HEART ATTACK, YOU WANT THE FASTEST RESPONSE WHEREVER IT'S COMING FROM MM-HMM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON, IS HOW CAN WE GET SERVICE AS FAST AS WE CAN TO THE PERSON WHO NEEDS HELP? AND THAT'S WHAT THIS GROUP CAN WORK ON.
WHILE WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON PUBLICITY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, UH, LET PEOPLE KNOW SO THAT THERE'S NOT MISUNDERSTANDING BETWEEN B L S AND A L S AND WHO'S FUNDING WHAT.
UH, SO I, I JUST THINK THAT OUR NEXT, OUR TAKEAWAY FROM THIS MEETING IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD DO IT, BUT HOW QUICKLY CAN WE PUT IT TOGETHER AND GET IT STARTED.
THE TAKEAWAY THAT I'M TRYING TO ENFOR I'M TRYING TO ASK FOR FROM MY MUNICIPALITY, FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, IS THAT WHAT, THERE AREN'T BACKROOM CONVERSATIONS ON THIS.
SMALL COMMITTEES ARE GREAT, BUT THAT THEY'RE OPEN, THAT THEY'RE OPEN UNDER OPEN GOVERNMENT RULES AND SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE THEM, BECAUSE I AGREE, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE GET THE BEST AND FASTEST RESPONSE TIMES IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
BUT IF THREE YEARS AFTERWARDS, IT TURNS OUT THAT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, WHETHER IT BE FAIRVIEW OR HARTSDALE OR NORWOOD OR OR EDGEMONT, ARE ACTUALLY SHARING THE, A HEAVIER BURDEN BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE, WE'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO PAY, UH, THROUGH SOFT BILLING.
AND WE'RE THE ONES WHO ARE PAYING FOR THE B BUDGET COPS THAT ARE BASICALLY DRIVING THOSE, THOSE AMBULANCES.
I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE UPFRONT.
SO, JEFF, JEFFREY, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT VENUE TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
WHAT I THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS WE NEED TO REALLY EVALUATE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN ALL THE VILLAGES.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE A SMALLER MEETING.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW AND WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE WITHOUT THROWING MORE MONEY TO THE PROBLEM.
AND ONLY THEN I THINK WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BIGGER GROUP DISCUSSION, PUBLIC DISCUSSION, WHICH EVERYBODY WILL HAVE FACTS AND INFORMATION THAT WE ALL CAN SHARE WITH YOU AS OPPOSED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRING BACK AND FORTH WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF GAPS CURRENTLY IN EVERYBODY'S MIND BECAUSE OF THAT PROBLEM THAT TONY HAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
LACK OF COMMUNICATION, WHICH WE'LL NEED TO FIX SO LONG AS THERE'S TRANSPARENCY.
IF I, HEY PAUL, IF I COULD JUST ADD, I, I AGREE WITH GREG.
I MEAN, OPERATIONALLY WE NEED TO GET ALL THE, ALL THE PROVIDERS IN A ROOM AND THEN WE PUBLICLY WE TALK ABOUT FUNDING.
SO CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEMS? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY.
EVERYBODY'S ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS.
EVERYBODY HAS EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS.
I'LL TAKE THE MOMENT OF SILENCE AS YES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS HEARD.
HEY, MR. MRS. YOUNG, MR. YOUNG WANTS TO SPEAK MR. YOUNG, THIS IS YOUR, OKAY.
I, I'M NOT SURE THAT MY MICROPHONE WAS WORKING HERE.
UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A WORD IN EDGE BIAS OVER HERE.
LISTEN, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID TODAY.
UH, AND CERTAINLY, UM, IF, IF IT HIGHLIGHTS ANYTHING, UM, THAT EVERY CORE IN EVERY ORGANIZATION IS UNIQUE IN ITSELF, RIGHT? ALTHOUGH WE'RE ALL PART OF THAT SAME TOWNSHIP, RIGHT? BUT THERE IS, AND, AND THIS IS VERY APPARENT.
THERE'S NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION, UH, FOR EVERYBODY.
AND WE NEED TO CONSIDER ALL OF THAT.
UM, YES, WE SHOULD ALL TALK TOGETHER.
UH, AND I THINK TODAY AND TONIGHT IS NOT THE PLACE TO HAMMER OUT THE, THE FINITE NUTS AND BOLTS AND, UH, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF WE CAN MAKE SOME HEADWAY THAT WE WILL GET TO
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TOGETHER AND TALK.UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, EACH CORE IS SO DIFFERENT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE CAN FIND, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE SAME AND, AND, AND, AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
RIGHT? DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? YES.
I BELIEVE THAT MAYOR KABUL WANTED TO SPEAK TOO.
I I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION THAT THE, UM, THE, THAT CHIEF MCNERNEY WOULD BE THE, UM, LEADER IN BRINGING THE PARTIES TOGETHER, JUST COMMENCE A, A MEETING WITH ALL, UM, UM, RELEVANT PARTIES.
AND CHIEF, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN BOARD IS INCLUDED AS WELL, PLEASE.
OKAY, NEXT WE COULD GO ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE.
I YOU ON THE NEXT, IN ONE SECOND, EVERYBODY SAY YOUR THANK YOUS.
I, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, YOU'RE INVITED TO STAY
I WANTED TO MENTION, UM, THAT, UM, I HAD ASKED TO, UM, UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE TIF DISTRICT, UM, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS TODAY, THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES.
UH, MY INTENT WHEN I PROPOSED ABOLISHING THE TIF DISTRICT WAS NOT TO, UH, UH, RETURN.
WE ALL BASICALLY BELIEVED THAT WE NEED A NINE A BYPASS.
AND DURING THE PAST, UM, 20 OR 30 YEARS, UH, OR 50 YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL WORKED, THE TOWN HAS PUSHED THE STATE TO MOVE FORWARD ON A NINE A BYPASS.
STATE'S BEEN STUDYING, STUDYING, STUDYING, AND YOU KNOW, AT TIMES WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA GET CLOSE, BUT THEY'VE NEVER BUILT IT YET.
UM, THERE'S ABOUT $6 MILLION IN FUNDS.
UM, AND WHEN I SAID TO SOME PEOPLE, WE SHOULD ABOLISH THE, THE DISTRICT, MY INTENT WAS NOT TO, UM, ABOLISH IT GOING BACKWARDS, BUT ONLY FORWARDS.
SO THE $6 MILLION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED FOR THE NINE A, UH, BYPASS WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE NINE A BYPASS.
UM, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, SINCE THE MONEY HASN'T BEEN SPENT, THE MONEY, I THINK, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE TIF DISTRICT, NOT THE ONES THAT PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED, SHOULD GO INTO THE B BUDGET TO HELP, UM, OFFSET SOME OF THE BUDGETARY ISSUES.
IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER, UM, WE COULD ABOLISH THE TIF DISTRICT GOING BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS.
WE MIGHT, IF WE ABOLISH IT, WE MAY NOT BE IN A POSITION OF BEING ABLE TO, UM, ALLOCATE THE $6 MILLION, UM, THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, BEEN ALLOCATED, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BYPASS.
SO I JUST BASICALLY, UH, I'M ASKING THAT WE PUT THIS ITEM ON HOLD, UM, FOR A WEEK AND GIVE, UH, TIM LEWIS AND, UM, THE ASSESSOR, UM, AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, UM, AND VILLAGE OFFICIALS WHO ARE INTERESTED A CHANCE TO DO FURTHER, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH.
UH, TIM, ARE YOU, YOU HERE? YES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, ERIC ZINGER HAD ASKED TO COMMENT ON, YOU KNOW, ON THIS AND, UH, HE HAD SUGGESTED THIS ABOUT, UM, A YEAR AGO AT A BUDGET, UH, MEETING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, RIGHT? SO CERTAINLY NO QUESTION THAT WE CAN ABOLISH THE DISTRICT OR REALLY THE CORRECT TERM IS TO DISSOLVE THE DISTRICT.
IT REQUIRES, UH, THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LAW, UH, AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU KNOW, THE BIG QUESTION IS WHERE THAT MONEY GOES AND WHETHER IT'S, UH, LEGAL TO HOLD IT, UH, AND USE IT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE NINE A BYPASS IT MIGHT BE.
UM, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO EXPLORE THAT.
AND TO WHAT EXTENT THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE OF NEW YORK STATE HAS TO BE NOTIFIED AND YOU CAN GIVE THEIR INPUT INTO THAT DECISION.
YOU, YOU THINK YOU COULD GET, UH, RECOMME, UH, SOME COMMENTS, UH, OR LEGAL OPINION BY NEXT WEEK? UH, A LEGAL OPINION BY NEXT WEEK FROM ME, YES, BUT FROM THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE OR SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPAL AGENCIES?
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PROBABLY TWO WEEKS.SO MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US LIKE AN UPDATE ON NEXT WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK AND THE WEEK AFTER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET THAT HAS EITHER A 0% TAX HIKE OR A VERY SMALL, UH, TAX HIKE THAT DEFINITELY IS UNDER THE TAX CAP.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE A, A NICE CHUNK OF, OF A REVENUE THAT COULD HELP US AVOID, UM, YOU KNOW, CUTBACKS.
AND THE PROBLEM IS THE TIF DISTRICT MONEY JUST KEEPS ACCUMULATING AND IT'S JUST NOT BEING USED.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I, I FEEL IT'S, IT'S MONEY THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BETTER SPENT GOING FOR IT.
AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE STATE IS GONNA ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING WITH THE BYPASS.
ERIC, DO YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS? HI, PAUL.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, INTRODUCING ME.
YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE WERE GONNA HOLD IT OVER, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK JUST FOR A MINUTE ON IT.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS A NO-BRAINER.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR WELL OVER TWO YEARS NOW.
UM, AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT, UH, JUST ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID IS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MONEY IS GONNA BE RETURNED TO THE B BUDGET, BUT IT ALSO DOES BENEFIT THE A BUDGET AS WELL.
SO IT BENEFITS BOTH THE A BUDGET AND THE B BUDGET BECAUSE, UM, IT'S ABOUT $320,000 A YEAR, AND 95% OF THAT IS, UM, B BUDGET MONEY, BUT THERE IS STILL ADDITIONAL 15 20,000 THAT'S A BUDGET.
UM, MY PROPOSAL AND WHAT I'VE TRYING TO, THAT DONE IS NEVER BEEN ABOUT THE $6 MILLION THAT'S IN THE FUND.
UH, IT'S NEVER BEEN THE CASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, RAID THAT, THAT STOCKPILE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE MONEY GOING FORWARD, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A REAL NO-BRAINER HERE FOR US TO, UH, DISSOLVE THE DISTRICT IN THIS REGARD.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY ONLY TWO TIF DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY THAT WERE ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO 2012.
UM, IN TOTAL, THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET CRISIS LOOMING THAT THAT MONEY COULD DESPERATELY USE TO OFFSET EITHER POTENTIAL CUTS OR TAX INCREASES.
AND THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TOWN BOARD, UH, MOVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS IN TIME FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET SO THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL REVENUES CAN BE FACTORED IN.
UM, IT'S TAKEN, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT OF A, UM, BESPOKE SUBJECT.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND RESEARCH TO KIND OF JUST EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS WAS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR FINER.
I'M GLAD HE AGREES WITH MY RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE DISSOLVED.
AND I, I HOPE THAT WE DO IT IN TIME TO INCLUDE IT FOR THE, UH, PROPOSED UPCOMING 2021 BUDGET.
SO WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR, UM, FOR NEXT WEEK.
IS MICHAEL MOLES, UM, STILL ON THE LINE? BECAUSE I THINK HE WANTS TO COMMENT.
REMEMBER HE'S GOT A DINNER PARTY GOING ON, SO HE MAY OH MY GOD.
SO CAN I JUST, CAN I JUST JUMP IN WHILE WE WAIT FOR MIKE? I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ERIC ZINGER.
AS YOU KNOW, ERIC HAS BEEN PUSHING THIS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THIS IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING THE WORK FOR YOU AND IT'S YOUR MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR FROM YOU AND WHATEVER SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS.
UM, THIS IS A TOUGH, THIS IS A TOUGH TIME, AS WE KNOW, WITH THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BUT WHEN WE HEAR SUGGESTIONS LIKE THIS, IT'S VERY, IF WE CAN UTILIZE THEM AND THEY CAN WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S, WE WELCOME THEM.
SO PLEASE LET THEM CONTINUE TO COME THROUGH.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, TWO WEEKS IS PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH TIME.
I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE, UM, SOME, UH, TIM AS WELL AS THE VILLAGE, UH, ATTORNEY, LOOK THROUGH THE, THE STATE LAW AS WELL AS HOW THE DISTRICT WAS SET UP.
UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME ISSUES AND THE WISHLIST OF SOME PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EXACTLY POSSIBLE, BUT WE REALLY NEED SOME TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
AND BY THE WAY, THE VILLAGE SUPPORTS THE VILLAGE TOTALLY SUPPORTS, UM, IF WE CAN PUTTING THE WHOLE THING TO THE NINE A BYPASS.
WELL, THAT'S WHY WE WROTE IN OUR LAST RESOLUTION.
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EITHER HAD TO GO TO DREDGING THE SAWMILL RIVER OR THE NINE A BYPASS.IF THE NINE A BYPASS DOESN'T COME TO PASS.
BUT, UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT DOES AT SOME POINT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD ALSO, UM, UM, REACH OUT TO OUR FEDERAL, STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES AND GET, GET REALLY AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO WE THOUGHT THE NINE A BYPASS WAS GONNA BE BUILT 20 YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE NINE A BYPASS FOR DECADES.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, STUDIES AND STUDIES AND STUDIES, AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.
SO MEANWHILE, UM, YOU KNOW, PLUS IF WE ALLOCATED A $6 MILLION, UH, TO THE NINE A BYPASS, AND IF THE STATE COMES IN WITH A PLAN AND SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA BUILD, UM, THE, THE BYPASS AND WE'RE PUTTING UP $20 MILLION, YOU PUT UP THE 6 MILLION, BUT THE ONLY WAY THE TOWN WE'RE GONNA DO THIS IS THE TOWN'S GONNA HAVE TO PUT IN ANOTHER TWO OR $3 MILLION, THEN WE COULD ALWAYS BOND.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT BA IF WE ELIMINATE THE DISTRICT, WE'RE NOT SAYING CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE THE BYPASS WOULD PROVIDE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE WHOLE, UM, THE WHOLE REGION.
JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, IN 2021, THAT 200, I THINK ROBERTA THINKS IT'S MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, $270,000, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IF IT'S 270,000 OR 300,000 OR WHATEVER, UM, THAT MONEY, I WOULD RATHER, UH, HAVE THAT MONEY GO TO PEOPLE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG THAT COULD BE USED TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, SERVICES RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, CUT BACK BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, AND THIS IS THE DILEMMA WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET, IS MOST OF THE TAXES ARE SCHOOL TAXES.
THE TOWN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I'M TRYING VERY, VERY HARD TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET WITH VERY LOW TAX INCREASE OR A 0% TAX INCREASE.
I'M NOT SURE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO YET, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE NUMBERS.
BUT BOTH OPTIONS ARE GONNA REQUIRE SOME SERVICE CUTS, UM, AND SOME STAFFING, YOU KNOW, CUTS NOT THROUGH LAYOFFS, BUT POSSIBLY THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, ATTRITION.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PAIN.
AND IF WE HAD $270,000, UM, I WOULD RATHER USE THAT FOR, FOR PROGRAMS THEN, THEN, THEN CUTBACKS THAT ARE GONNA HURT PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
JUST FOR CONTEXT, UH, THANKS PAUL.
THE ONLY, SO WHEN I WAS DOING, LOOKING AT ALL THIS, THE ONLY, UH, MONEY THAT'S EVER BEEN SPENT OUT OF THE FUND IN THE LAST 20 YEARS IS, UH, FOR ONE OF THREE THINGS.
IT'S EITHER TAX, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THEIR TAXES, UH, AN ENGINEERING STUDY THAT WAS ABOUT $20,000.
AND THEN THERE WAS, UH, ONE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT FRANK WAS REFERRING TO IN THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATION, UH, FOR ABOUT $80,000 FOR CURVE CUTS AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BILL OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK GIVEN THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS ARE OBVIOUSLY COMING FROM UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG, UH, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD, ANY MONEY SPENT OUT OF THAT, UH, BUDGET WOULD ONLY BE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE NINE A BYPASS.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, I'M JUST WRAPPING UP REAL QUICK.
I, I THINK IT'S, UH, IMPERATIVE THAT WE MOVE ON THIS WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF INCLUDING THESE REVENUES IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO, UH, THANK YOU PAUL FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS UP AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED, UH, UPDATES ON THIS MATTER.
SO, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL HEAR FROM, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, TIM NEXT WEEK AND, AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
I, I ALSO, UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WANNA, UM, UM, EXPRESS OUR CONDOLENCES TO, UH, JUDITH BEIL ON, UM, THE ON, UM, LYNN BEAL'S, UM, UH, PASSING.
UH, JUDITH WAS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO LYNN, AND LYNN CONTRIBUTED GREATLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE TOWN, HELPED, UM, MANY OF THE INTERNS, UH, WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR PROGRAMS. AND SHE IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, MISSED AND HER LIFE THAT WILL BE APPRECIATED BY THE MANY PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, SHE MADE SUCH A POSITIVE, UH, IMPACT ON, ON MANY, MANY PEOPLE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVES.
UM, SO OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO JUDITH DURING THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT TIME.
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JUST ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, JUDITH IS, YOU KNOW, SO DEDICATED TO THE TOWN.UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFTER THE PASSING OF HER, UM, HER SISTER, UM, UH, I SPOKE TO HER, UM, ON SATURDAY.
SHE WAS AT THE TOWN HALL, UH, PUTTING PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS FIRST, UM, AND PUTTING PUBLIC SERVICE, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GRIEVING, SHE'S BEEN COMING TO TOWN HALL, SHE'S BEEN WORKING, SHE'S BEEN HELPING CONSTITUENTS.
AND I, I JUST FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE'S DOING IS, IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY SHOULD APPRECIATE AND, AND BE THANKFUL FOR HER, FOR HER DEDICATION.
UM, NEXT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, TWO STUDENTS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING PRESENTATIONS.
UM, HAVE A SEVENTH GRADER, UH, SID, UH, KARTHIK, UH, REFLECTIVE CLOTHING.
UH, HE DID, UM, TWO P PSAS ON REFLECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOTHING AND COYOTES.
AND, UM, THEY'RE VERY SHORT PSSAS.
HE'S A SEVENTH GRADER DOING A LOT OF GREAT THINGS, UH, LEARNING ABOUT GOVERNMENT.
NATHAN GOLDBRIDGE IS OFFERING, UM, FREE TUTORING IN BIOLOGY AND CHEMISTRY, AND IS LOOKING FOR STUDENTS TO TUTOR.
UM, AND, UH, SENT A NOTE TO ANDRE AND, UM, UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, ASKING IF WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HIS, UM, SERVICES.
SOME OF THE, UH, STUDENTS MIGHT ACTUALLY BENEFIT MOVING ON THE AGENDA.
UM, YOU'RE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AVALON GREEN, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICATION.
I MEAN, I HAVE, UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH CHANGING, UM, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS AFTER THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, APPROVED UNLESS, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF, UH, EAST IRVINGTON GET, YOU KNOW, GET, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME BENEFITS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY FOR THE AVALON.
UH, THEY MADE PROMISES THAT THEY WERE GONNA PROVIDE SHUTTLE SERVICE, UH, TO THE TRAIN STATION.
AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A PROMISE MADE BEING BROKEN, UM, YOU KNOW, LATER, LATER ON.
SO I REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO VOTE FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS, UM, FORFEITURE.
THE, THAT'S THE VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, UH, CREATING A NEW SUB SUBSECTION AUTHORIZING FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES OPERATED BY PERSONS WHILE ENGAGED IN UNLAWFUL SPEED CONTESTS OR RACES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN YONKERS AND WHITE PLAINS.
TIM, YOU, UH, INDICATED THAT, UH, YOU'RE DOING SOME RESEARCH AND WE MAY, YOU THINK WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS? WELL, THERE'S CERTAINLY A FEDERAL CASE OUT THERE THAT SAYS, UM, IT COULD BE UNREASONABLE, UM, TO TAKE SOMEONE'S VEHICLE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, UM, THE VALUE OF THAT VEHICLE IS RELATIVE TO THE OFFENSE OF SPEEDING, UM, OR DRAG RACING.
SO WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, UH, IF SOMEONE OWNS, LET'S SAY, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS VEHICLE AND THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, TICKETED WITH, UH, DRAG RACING AND SPEEDING THAT PARTICULAR CASE, AND THAT PARTICULAR JUDGE SAYS THAT WAS UNREASONABLE, AND THERE MAY BE A LESSER AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD TAKE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A JUDGE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, MAKE A DECISION ABOUT IN A FORFEITURE PROCEEDING THAT WAS BOUGHT BY, UM, YOU KNOW, BY THE, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
DID YOU, UH, CHECK WITH YONKERS ON MY PLAINS AND SEE, I I THINK THE, UM, MR. NOLAN MENTIONED THAT YONKERS HAD SUCCESSFULLY FORFEITURE, UM, 10 CARS WHEN HE SPOKE AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS AGO OR A FEW WEEKS AGO.
YEAH, I MEAN, YOU CAN CERTAINLY FORFEITURE CARS, YOU KNOW, AND TAKE THE CARS AND PURSUANT TO A HEARING, UM, EITHER KEEP THOSE CARS OR GIVE THOSE CARS BACK.
BUT THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS.
SO I'M GONNA CIRCULATE THAT CASE SO THE BOARD IS AWARE OF IT IN CASE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, BRINGS IT UP AT THE MEETING.
SO WE COULD FORFEITURE A CAR, AND THEN THEY WOULD, THE JUDGE WOULD SAY, OKAY, THE, THE MUNICIPALITY TOOK IT OVER, BUT, UH, TOOK THE CAR AWAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK TO THEM A MONTH LATER OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN NEW YORK CITY, WHICH HAS A SIMILAR, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, THEY DO FORFEIT, UH, VEHICLES.
THEY DO TAKE YOUR VEHICLE PURSUANT TO, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A DRUG ARREST.
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UM, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN, UH, FEE THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY TO THE MUNICIPALITY TO GET THAT VEHICLE BACK.LET'S SAY IT'S $7,500 OR 30 500,000, OR EVEN $10,000.
BUT WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THOSE FORFEITURE PROCEEDINGS.
AND I'D LIKE THE BOARD TO JUST CONSIDER THAT CASE.
YES, GINA? SO WHAT IS IT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE CONTACTED YONKERS, BUT WHAT WOULD IT BE FOR DRAG RACING? WOULD IT BE, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU, YOU JUST SPOKE OF DRUG, DRUG, UH, I GUESS OFFENSES.
SO IS THERE SOMETHING, WOULD IT SOMETHING BE DIFFERENT FOR DRAG RACING? BECAUSE THIS IS THE MAIN CONCERN OF THE CONSTITUENTS.
SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM A DRUG? UM, YOU'RE TAKING IT WITH THE CAR AWAY, A CONFISCATION FROM A DRUG ARREST AS IT OPPOSED TO IT BEING DRAG RACING? CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT OR, SO WE CAN, YES.
WITH THE DIFFERENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIMES, YOU KNOW, IN IN PARTICULAR, IT'S, IT'S A CRIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SO SURE RIGHT NOW THAT DRAG RACING IS, IS A CRIME.
YET WHAT'S, WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA? YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I SEE TWO LOCAL LAWS HERE.
I THINK THERE WERE THREE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, UM, TWO THAT PERTAINED TO CHAPTER FOUR 60.
UM, ONE WAS FOR THE FORFEITURE, THE OTHER WAS THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE THE SPEED VIOLATION, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE, AND THEN THERE WAS THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
SO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHY ON THE AGENDA, THERE ARE ONLY TWO LOCAL LAWS WHEN I THINK WE NOTICED THREE, BUT OKAY, AGAIN, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE POLICE IMPOUNDING THE CAR AND HAVING SOME SORT OF JUDICIAL PROCEEDING WITH RESPECT TO FORFEITURE.
THE, THE QUESTION, IS THE PENALTY IMPOSED? ARE YOU TAKING THE CAR, ARE YOU CHARGING SOME REASONABLE AMOUNT? THAT ISSUE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD HAS TO BE MINDFUL OF, SO THERE'S NO CONS, AND FORGIVE ME.
SO THERE'S NO CONSISTENT AMOUNT ON THE LAW THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN CONFISCATE, YOU CAN CONFISCATE A CAR, UM, AT THIS PRICE, IF YOU WILL.
LIKE, SO YOUR FINE WILL BE, IF WE CONFISCATE YOUR CAR, YOUR CAR, YOUR FINE'S GONNA BE $350 THROWING IT OUT THERE.
SO THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE LIKE THAT IN ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS, OR I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ONE IN GREEN AS YET.
IT JUST, IT JUST HAS TO BE A REASONABLE FINE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, OKAY, I HAVE A FERRARI, LET'S SAY, AND IT'S A NICE $2,000 FERRARI, AND I'M DRAG RACING, AND I'M CONVICTED OF THAT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU COULD KEEP THE $200,000 FERRARI, BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT THAT PENALTY IS JUST IN EXCESS OF REASONABLENESS IN TERMS OF THE CRIME THAT YOU COMMITTED IN ONE JUDGE'S OPINION.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE THAT CASE.
TIM, DID YOU RESPOND TO THE EMAIL I SENT YOU REGARDING THESE LAWS WHERE THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT FORFEITURE IN THE LOCAL LAW? UH, I DID NOT SEE, I DID SEE AN EMAIL FROM YOU.
SO I, AT THAT, BUT, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, WE KEEP BUILDING THIS AS A FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, ANY LOCAL LAW THAT TALKS ABOUT FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES.
THE, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ON THE ON AGENDA, QUICK TALKS ABOUT INCREASED FINES AND POSSIBLE IMPRISONMENT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD, STANDARD TYPES OF, UH, PENALTIES.
UM, SO THEN I WAS LOOKING, MAYBE THE NOISE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN IT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NOISE.
DID YOU SEE THE THIRD LAW? NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH ACTUALLY FORFEITING VEHICLES, AT LEAST NOT ON AGENDA QUICK.
YEAH, SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A THIRD LAW THAT WE NOTICED, AND I'LL, I'LL TRY TO GET THAT TO YOU TOMORROW.
IT MAY BE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON IT, BUT DEFINITELY NOTICE THREE, AND I THINK THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE'LL CHECK IT OUT.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR, UH, DONALD PARK FOR 2019.
THE CB R A, I'D LIKE TO, UH, PUT, UH, HOLD THAT OVER TILL THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE, UH, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TO ASK VICTOR, AND HE'S AWAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, I, I DID SEE AN EMAIL, UH, I THINK IT REFERRED TO NEXTDOOR OR, OR SOMETHING WITH RESPECT TO $50,000 THAT WAS PAID TO C B R E, UH, FOR THEIR SERVICES, THAT THAT'S NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, THAT $50,000 WOULD ONLY BE PAID, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT WE DID COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE AND THE TOWN DID NOT GO THROUGH WITH THAT AGREEMENT.
SO I'LL SEND THAT EXPLANATION AROUND TO THE TOWN BOARD.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN STILL HOLD IT OVER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT WAS REALLY NOT INACCURATE.
SO, SO WHAT, SO BASICALLY, WHAT WOULD THE COST ME, UH, OF RENEWING THIS? WELL, THERE'S NO COST RIGHT NOW.
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THE SERVICE IS BASED ON A, ON A COMMISSION AT THE END.IF, IF WE ARE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE, THE RESOLUTION JUST AUTHORIZED THE CONTINUED NEGOTIATIONS AND THE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE.
BUT THERE'S NO PAYMENT BEING MADE AT THIS TIME.
IT'S JUST THAT THE OLD AGREEMENT TO NEGOTIATE, I BELIEVE, EXPIRES ON OCTOBER 19TH.
AND SO WE'RE JUST RENEWING THE SAME AGREEMENT, WHICH DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY PAYMENT OF ANY MONEY.
UM, THEN IF IT, IF, IF IT EXPIRES OCTOBER 19TH AND THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO, UH, COST, THERE'S REALLY NO, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL ZERO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE TOWN.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, I'LL CIRCULATE THAT EMAIL TO YOU TONIGHT, AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AS TO WHETHER YOU WANNA VOTE ON IT TOMORROW.
LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION TO THE BOARD, UM, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THE POLICE AND COURTHOUSE ARE NEEDED.
UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANNA PURSUE THIS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR OF, YOU KNOW, FUNDING A MAJOR CAPITAL IN A PROJECT, BUT THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM RATHER THAN YOU HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
ALTHOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, PRELIMINARY WORK THAT COULD BE DONE BY C B R E AND OTHERS BETWEEN NOW AND, AND THEN, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HOLD IT? WOULD IT CAUSE ANY DAMAGE TO THE TOWN IF IT'S HELD OVER FOR TWO WEEKS? I THINK WE'LL FIND, UH, I THINK WE'LL KNOW THAT BY TOMORROW NIGHT, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION NOW TOMORROW.
'CAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO OUT-OF-POCKET COST, THOUGH, WE WOULD BE ACCRUING POTENTIAL FIVE THAT MIGHT, JUST TO UNDERSTAND IT, THE EXTENSION WOULD BE AT THE SAME RATE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
SO WHILE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR ANOTHER YEAR, WE WOULD BE ACCRUING $5,000 A MONTH IN FEES THAT WOULD BE OWED TO C B R E SHOULD A DEAL CLOSE.
AND IF WE ARE INTENDING ON DOING THIS, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, $60,000 IN FEES THAT WE WILL OWE OR FIT WHATEVER IT IS TO C B R E WHEN WE CLOSE THE DEAL.
SO THERE'S NO UPFRONT OUT-OF-POCKET COST, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON READING THE RESOLUTION, IS THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A COST.
WELL, AGAIN, I, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE CONTRACT TONIGHT AND I'LL SEND THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT FROM THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THE NEGOTIATING, AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT.
SO WE CAN HAVE THESE ARGUMENTS TOMORROW WITH MORE INFORMATION.
UH, TB TWO IS, UH, WHAT'S DONE AS A MULTIMODAL CAPITAL PROJECT AGREEMENT.
AND THIS INVOLVES THE, UH, PROJECT FOR PUTTING IN THE, FOR PUTTING IN THE HAWK TRAFFIC LIGHT AT LAWTON AVENUE AND CENTRAL CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
UH, 81 IS A PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIM, UM, UM, FOR $1,800, TWO IS ANOTHER PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIM.
UH, FOR 571, WE HAVE SEVERAL TAX CERTS.
UM, PAUL, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A T FOUR AND A FIVE INVOLVING BOULDER RIDGE? YEAH.
UM, I TOLD MY WIFE AND I, THAT'S WHY I'M RIGHT NOW, I, MY SISTER'S, UM, UM, SHE WASN'T THAT THRILLED WITH ME.
UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, UH, WITH THE BOULDER RIDGE, UM, I HAD, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS A, A ARI AND WE BOTH DIDN'T ACCEPT, UH, THE REFUND.
AND THAT WAS ABOUT $25,000 OF A LOSS TO MY FAMILY.
AND, UH, THIS IS A SECOND ARI, AND BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M TOWN SUPERVISOR, I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO ACCEPT THEIR REFUND.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER LIKE $1,500, UM, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT EVEN IF I RECUSE MYSELF, PEOPLE WOULD FEEL THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT.
SO I THINK IT'S SAFER TO JUST NOT TAKE THE MONEY AND PLAY THE SAXOPHONE ON THE SIDEWALK.
WELL, AT SOME POINT THAT THERE'LL BE THE, UH, SECOND REEVALUATION, AND SO EVERYBODY WILL GET REEVALUATED BY AN INDEPENDENT COMPANY.
BUT YEAH, I JUST, IT'LL, IT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT.
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
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ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE SOME STREET CLOSINGS, ONE ON KESTER ROAD, ANOTHER ONE IS, UH, THERE'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT EVENT BETWEEN, UH, TALK ABOUT THE C CORPS LEY AND, UH, LEY SEACOR AMBULANCE CORPS IN THAT ONE OF THE AREAS THEY COVER IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT, UH, HALLOWEEN, UH, EVENT, UH, PARADE, UH, PRETTY, UH, FAIRLY CLEVER, AND OTHERS ARE DOING IT.UH, THEY'RE DOING IT ON KEMPSTER ROAD, AND THEY'RE ALSO DOING IT ON SOUTH ROAD, WHERE INSTEAD OF HAVING THE CHILDREN GO TO THE DOORS AND KNOCK ON DOORS, UH, THEY'RE PUTTING TABLES OUT NEAR THE STREET AND THE CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO GO SOCIALLY DISTANCE, UH, DISTANCING, UH, FROM TABLE TO TABLE.
I JUST WANNA, JUST BEFORE, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, FRANCIS, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE, THAT IS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
I KNOW I'LL SPEAK, I'M A MOTHER OF A 13 YEAR OLD WHO'S VERY EXCITED STILL INTO HALLOWEEN.
SO I JUST WANNA JUST SAY THIS, A ALSO IS, PLEASE JUST REMEMBER TO SOCIAL DISTANCE AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO WEAR YOUR MASK.
'CAUSE WE, WE ARE STILL IN A LIVE PANDEMIC, BUT WE, ALTHOUGH WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS CONTINUE TO HAVE THE FUN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS STILL VERY SAFE.
UH, GARRETT, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR CDS? YES, SURE.
UH, CD ONE IS A STANDARD RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD RECEIVING AN APPLICATION AND DECLARING, UH, LEAD AGENCY.
AND, UH, REFERRING THAT APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, THE APPLICATION FOR CD ONE, UH, PERTAINS TO NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, AND THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR A BATTERY STORAGE, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, BE AN FENCED IN ENCLOSURE, UH, WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND, UM, THE, THAT APPLICATION, UH, WAS REVIEWED BY TOWN STAFF AND, UH, WE HAVE IT ON FOR THIS RESOLUTION.
SO, UH, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO PUT THAT ON AND, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S, TO TRACK THAT.
AND, UH, THEY'RE BOTH, THEY BOTH PERTAIN TO THE, UH, SPECIALIZED SENIOR HOUSING LOCAL LAW, WHICH WAS, WAS CLOSED AT THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT CRITERIA FOR THE, UH, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, NURSING HOMES, UM, CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES.
SO CD TWO IS A DRAFT SEEKER DETERMINATION, UM, LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THAT POTENTIAL, UH, LOCAL LAW APPROVAL.
UM, AND CD THREE IS THE ACTUAL LOCAL LAW.
UM, THERE IS NO, THERE ARE NO ACTIVE PROPOSALS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE MODIFICATIONS.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE, UH, STAFF, UH, GENERATED.
IT'S A STAFF GENERATED LOCAL LAW TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND CD FOUR AND CD FIVE ALSO GO TOGETHER, AND THEY ARE THE CONTINUUM OF CARE FACILITIES, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THAT, THAT NEWLY PROPOSED USE IN THE TOWN.
UM, CD FOUR IS THE SEEKER OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE POTENTIAL PASSAGE OF THAT, THAT LOCAL LAW.
UM, AND, AND THIS SEEKER IS, IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT, IT, IT, IT COVERS BOTH THE LOCAL LAW AND THE SITE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL AT THE, UH, METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB FOR, FOR A C C F.
UM, THERE WILL WILL BE A PROCESS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS OF BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN BOARD, UH, SHOULD THE LOCAL LAW BE PASSED.
UM, AND PROCESS WISE, CD FIVE IS THE ACTUAL LOCAL LAW JUST FOR THE C C F.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, THESE RESOLUTIONS DO NOT ALONE, UH, SANCTION A C C F AT METROPOLIS.
THERE WILL BE A SUBSEQUENT, SUBSEQUENT PROCESS FOR THAT.
UM, BUT THIS, THESE, THESE RESOLUTIONS ARE, ARE, ARE GERMANE TO THAT LOCAL LAW.
THEN WE HAVE, UH, SOME BUDGET TRANSFERS FROM THE CONTROLLER GOING OUT TO BID,
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THEN WE HAVE SOME, UH, PHILANTHROPY RESOLUTIONS DEALING WITH, UM, THE, UH, OBTAINING REIMBURSEMENTS FOR FUNDING MONIES THAT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT GETTING REIMBURSED AND ALSO SOME BLOCK RANTS FOR THE KITTY LAND PLAYGROUND OVER ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.AND ALSO SOME, A PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON AT OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD.
SO, AND THEN WE HAVE, IS VICTOR ON WHO'S ON VACATION TODAY? I'M MY FRIEND AT THE MEETING.
CAN, CAN YOU SEE YOUR SCREEN? ARE YOU ON PHONE OR WHAT ARE YOU I'M ON PHONE.
I'M TRYING TO SQUINT A LITTLE BIT HERE.
YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW YORK LEAK DETECTION, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN AND FIND OUT WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME LEAKAGE IN OUR PIPES THAT IS MISSING THE METERS BECAUSE IT'S GOING INTO THE GROUND, RIGHT.
SO THEY CHECK WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT, UH, THEY'RE VERY ACCURATE WITH THIS, AND THEY WILL DETERMINE IF WE HAVE ANY LEAKS AND THEN WE GO IN AND REPAIR THEM.
SO IS THIS AN ACTUAL INSPECTION OF THE PIPES OR DID THEY DO AN ANALYSIS OF HOW MUCH IS SHOWING UP ON EACH OF OUR METERS VERSUS WHAT'S COMING THROUGH THE MASTER METER AND SEEING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS? THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP.
AND THEN I GUESS DETERMINE WHAT THEY FIND THEY MOVE ON.
SO I ASKED A COMPLEX QUESTION, WHICH I HAD THE, THE LEAKS THEMSELVES, AND I ALSO HAD THE METER.
SO DID THEY DO THE TESTING, THE METER, NOT TESTING, BUT TAKING A MEASUREMENT OF THE MASTER METER OF THE WATER COMING INTO THE TOWN, AND THEN HOW MUCH IS SHOWING UP ON METERS, UH, IN INDIVIDUAL HOMES? IS THAT THE FIRST STEP? AND THEN THEY WILL GO AND SEE IF THEY CAN FIND THE SOURCE OF THE LEAK? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
IS THAT THE WAY IT WORKS? OKAY.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE DEALS WITH, UH, MORE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, HIRING WATER AND CURRENT TO DO A, UH, RISK AND RESILIENCE, UH, ASSESSMENT AND UPGRADE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN.
UH, WE YEARS AGO DEVELOPED AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, AND OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
AND THE LAST ONE FOR P D W DEALS WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH, UH, R FINANCIAL CONSULTING TO PROVIDE AS NEEDED FINANCIAL SERVICE CONSULTING TO THE WATER DISTRICT.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WILL HAVE, UH, IS WHO IS AUDITING THESE BILLS? WHERE DO THEY GO? DO THEY GO TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT? I KNOW AT SOME POINT THEY MAKE IT TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, BUT WHERE IS THE, WHERE IS THE AUDITING THAT'S GOING IN INVOLVED IN THESE BILLS, WHICH COME UP PERIODICALLY.
NOW WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE, UH, SESSION, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING, UH, PERSONNEL ISSUES AND BUDGET ISSUES, UM, UH, WITH THE POLICE AND UM, WITH, UH, THE COURTS.
RIGHT? SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET ISSUES ARE EXECUTIVE SESSION, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE RELATED TO THE BUDGET, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO WE SHOULD, UH, NOW GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION SECOND.
AND WE'RE NOT COMING BACK TONIGHT.
AND PAUL, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOMETIMES, UH, MEMBERS OF THE VIEWING PUBLIC ARE USED THIS PUBLIC PORTION OF THE BUDGET.
WILL THAT BE FORTHCOMING IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET AFTER YOU INITIATE PUBLIC? OKAY.
SO SHOULD WE GO RIGHT INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS? UH, YEAH, JUST A MOMENT.
WE'LL WAIT FOR US TO BE OFF OF CABLE.
HAD A MEETING WITH, I HAD A TWO HOUR MEETING.
WE'RE STILL GOING OUT COURT THIS EVENING, SO WE'RE STILL GOING OUT.
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OH MY GOD.OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE, WE HAVE CLOSED CAPTIONING ON OUR, UH, CABLE.
NOW, THE LAST THING THAT IT HAD, IT WAS, OH, BY THE WAY, YOU DIDN'T NOTICE YOU HAD CLOSED CAPTIONING ON OUR CABLE.
HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? YOU KNOW WHAT? JUST PEACHY.
FRANCIS TRIED TO, FRANCIS TRIED TO GIVE HIM A HARD TIME TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU WHAT IT WHAT IN THE BATHROOM? BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I HELPED
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TO EXPAND OUR E M S, UM, UNIT PROGRAM.UH, I THOUGHT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WITH MICHAEL MILLS, WHO, UM, UM, WAS ONE OF THE FIRST, UM, VILLAGE OFFICIALS TO, UM, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
WE COULD HEAR FROM CHIEF MCINERNEY AND, UM, AND JARED ROSENBERG AND THEN HERE FROM, UM, THE AMBULANCE CORPS, UM, UH, LEADERSHIP THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COMMENT.
SO MICHAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, UH, THOUGHTS? WE HAVE MICHAEL MILL HERE.
UH, MICHAEL'S ON, UH, HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE ACCESSING.
UH, WE, UM, I THINK FRANCIS HAD GIVEN HIM A PHONE NUMBER THAT HE WAS GONNA BE USING TO CALL IN MICHAEL BELL.
THERE'S ALSO LIKE, I THINK SOMEBODY HAS THEIR TV OR THEIR SOMETHING ON, 'CAUSE I'M HEARING YOU SPEAK AND THEN LIKE FIVE SECONDS LATER YOU SPEAK.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SAME THING AGAIN.
THIS IS, THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR A SECOND.
IT APPEARS THAT THE VOLUME THAT'S LEAKING OUT FROM THE CABLE STATION IS VERY, VERY LOW.
SO I'M GETTING FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR.
SO GEORGE, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, IF WE COULD JUST CHECK THE VOLUME THAT'S, UM, BEING SENT OUT TO, UH, OUR RESIDENTS, IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THEY CAN HEAR US, PLEASE.
WELL, LET ME TALK AND SEE IF THAT'S BETTER, BECAUSE I WAS MUTED BEFORE.
GEORGE, UH, I HAVE CABLE ALMOST UP, UH, MORE THAN 50 OR 60% VOLUME AND I CAN BARELY HEAR.
YOUR AUDIO SOUNDS FINE ON THE ZOOM? YES.
IT IS JUST WHATEVER'S BEING TRANSMITTED OUT ON CABLE IS VERY LOW.
OKAY, SO I KNOW THERE ARE, I KNOW I JUST, PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HEAR US.
SO, MIKE, DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA START? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, I APOLOGIZE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HEARS ALL THE COMMENTS.
UM, FIRST LET ME THANK THE TOWN BOARD AND SUPERVISORS FOR HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO START TO, TO DISCUSS THIS.
AND THEN NEXT, APOLOGIZE IF YOU HEAR ME COOKING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING.
I HAVE, UH, 10 OF MY SON'S FRIENDS COMING OVER FOR A LETTER WRITING PARTY 'CAUSE HE'S IN HIS FOURTH, UH, WEEK OF BASIC TRAINING IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY.
SO, TO GET TO THE AMBULANCE THING, UM, THIS GOES BACK ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO, UH, TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU, WHERE THE HEADS OF THE FOUR AMBULANCE, POS AS WELL AS THE FIRE CHIEFS AND E M S PEOPLE FROM THE TWO VILLAGES, WHICH ARE HASTINGS AND ELMSFORD THAT DON'T HAVE COORS, THEY HAVE THE AMBULANCE AS PART OF THE, THE VILLAGE.
UM, A GROUP, THAT GROUP WAS PUT TOGETHER TO START TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE COULD IMPROVE ON OUR SERVICES, BECAUSE SOME OF US WERE STRUGGLING WITH MEMBERS STRUGGLING WITH CALLS, AND WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN.
I GOT INVOLVED IN IT BECAUSE THEY ASKED ME TO BE THE NUMBERS GUY AND THE LOGISTICS GUY, I'M NOT, YOU WON'T SEE ME RIDING AN AMBULANCE.
SO OVER THE COURSE OF THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN CORE LEADERS, VILLAGE LEADERS, VILLAGE FIRE CHIEFS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAS CHANGED OVER THE TIME.
WE PUT A PLAN TOGETHER AND AFTER, AND I, I'M TALKING TWO SUMMERS OF MEETINGS.
UM, WE PUT A PLAN TOGETHER THAT WE OVERTHOUGHT THE WHOLE THING.
AND THE PLAN WAS TO PUT TOGETHER POSSIBLY A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE RUN BY GREENBURG THAT WOULD PROVIDE MUTUAL AID TO THE VILLAGES, UM, WHEN NEEDED, AS WELL AS SUPPLEMENTING, UM, UM, BASIC LIFE SERVICES IN GREENBURG PROPER.
UM, WE CAME UP WITH THAT PLAN BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON BASICALLY THE A L S SYSTEM WHERE THE TOWN, UH, PARAMEDIC IS SHARED WITH THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGES.
SO INSTEAD OF RE-LINK RETHINKING THE WHEEL, IT WAS, MAYBE THIS WILL HELP.
AT THAT TIME, AND I'M TALKING FIVE YEARS AGO, UM, WE WERE BASICALLY, ALL THE VILLAGES AND CORES
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WERE KIND OF UNDER DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.AND IT HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY OVER FIVE YEARS.
IT'S CHANGED AS MUCH AS, UM, THE, THERE WAS ONE VILLAGE, WHICH I WON'T NAME THAT WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSAL, WHO NOW, AND I'M GONNA USE THE WORD DESPERATELY, NEEDS IT, UM, FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND IT'S HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REALLY BUDGETS OR VILLAGES.
IT HAS TO DO WITH MAKING SURE WE'RE OUT THERE SAVING LIVES.
UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE MINUTES IS A LIFE WHEN A MUTUAL AID CALL GETS CALLED OUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
SO TO KEEP THIS SIMPLE, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS SAY, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS, IF A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE TO HELP OUR PEOPLE, NOT REPLACE THEM, BUT TO HELP THEM WHEN THE HELP IS NEEDED, WHAT'S IT GONNA COST AND HOW CAN WE SET IT UP SO THAT THE PREMISE WAS TO SET IT UP THROUGH GREENBURG, THROUGH THE A BUDGET, THE CURRENT BUDGET, WHICH PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REEXAMINED AND EVERYTHING, UM, IS BASICALLY $3 OR LESS ON THE AVERAGE PROPERTY IN THE ENTIRE TOWN.
AND IT, IT'S COME TO A POINT WHERE SOME OF US REALLY NEED TO EXPLORE THIS SERVICE.
UM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR, I'M NOT SAYING I, THE GROUP WASN'T LOOKING TO CREATE A NEW AMBULANCE DISTRICT, A NEW AMBULANCE PROGRAM, NOT LOOKING TO REPLACE ANYBODY, JUST TRIED TO HELP WITH A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE WHEN IT IS NEEDED AND HOW TO DO IT THE MOST AFFORDABLE WAY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED AND ANSWERED.
UM, TONIGHT'S FORUM MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.
UM, I THINK THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, POSSIBLY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH OF THE AMBULANCE COURTS, THE FIRE CHIEFS INVOLVED WITH ELM FORD AND HASTINGS, AS WELL AS THE MAYORS AND ADMINISTRATORS FOR EACH VILLAGE, REALLY NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE GREENBERG POLICE, WITH, UH, JARRET AND HAMMER THIS THING OUT TO MAKE IT REALLY COST EFFECTIVE AND MAKE SENSE.
UM, AGAIN, I WANT, I JUST WANT TO RE REPEAT THIS PLAN WAS DEVI TO HELP NOT REPLACE, AND I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS HERE.
I I BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS FROM, UH, AMBULANCE CORPS, UM, LEADERS AND MEMBERS IN THE PAST, UH, FEW DAYS, UH, SINCE I POSTED THIS.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, A NEXT STEP WOULD BE, UM, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEER, UM, AMBULANCE CORPS, UM, MEMBERS, LEADERSHIP, UM, THE TOWN, THE POLICE, UM, YOU KNOW, JARED, UM, THE VILLAGE REPRESENTATIVES, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MEET AND TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, TRY, UM, IDENTIFYING, UM, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT CAME UP IN MY DISCUSSIONS WAS HOW MANY CALLS DOES GREENBERG NEED TO ANSWER TO JUSTIFY AN ADDITIONAL, UM, AMBULANCE, UH, WHILE WILL THE IMPACT BE TO, UM, THE V THE VOLUNTEER, UH, DEPARTMENTS.
UM, WHAT OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS, UM, COULD BE, UM, EXPLORED.
WE COULD BE LOOKING AT MUTUAL AID, UH, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY, UM, YOU KNOW, RESTRUCTURING, UH, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEERS, UM, GET, I, I BELIEVE IT'S 10% OFF THEIR, UH, THEIR TAXES, UM, IF THEY VOLUNTEER AND PUT IN THE TIME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT.
SO MAYBE THE TOWN WORKING WITH THE VILLAGES COULD HELP THE VOLUNTEERS ATTRACT AND RECRUIT AND KEEP, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE MEMBERS THAT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING.
I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE PERSON IN A VILLAGE, WHEN THEY GET THE SERVICE, UH, WHEN THEY GET HELP, THEY THINK THE TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THE AMBULANCE CORPS.
IT'S AN ALL VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT THAT'S NOT FUNDED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYERS AT ALL.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO HELP EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS TO, UM, THE FACT THAT THE VOLUNTEERS ARE DONATING THEIR TIME.
UH, THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UP WILLING TO HELP, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, DAY NIGHTS, WEEKENDS, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE, THIS COMMITTEE,
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UH, COULD EXPLORE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MUTUAL AID, UH, THE PROTOCOL IN TERMS OF DISPATCHING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AID.AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME VOLUNTEER OPERATIONS THAT ARE IN VERY GOOD HEALTHY SHAPE.
THERE'S OTHERS, UH, THAT ARE HAVING MAJOR, UH, PROBLEMS. SO MAYBE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE A MEETING AS A, A FOLLOW UP, WE COULD, UM, FIGURE OUT WAYS WHERE THOSE VOLUNTEER COS THAT HAVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS COULD HELP THOSE, UM, NEIGHBORING VILLAGES THAT ARE, ARE FACING, UH, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY AM PLEASED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU LIKED THE IDEA OR YOU, YOU'VE SUGGESTED, UM, HAVING, YOU KNOW, A MEETING, UH, WHERE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THIS AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOOK RESPONSES AND SAVING LIVES.
AND MAYBE THE CHIEF, UH, UH, CHIEF MCNERNEY, WOULD YOU WANT HER, UM, UH, SAY ANYTHING AND THEN JARED, AND THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM THE VOLUNTEER, UH, UH, LEADERSHIP? UH, YES, PAUL, I WOULD, UH, GOOD, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT UP FRONT IS THAT THIS REQUEST TO EXPLORE THIS AMBULANCE SERVICE OR EXPANSION OF OUR MUTUAL AID, UH, WE WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE VILLAGES.
UM, J NEITHER JARED OR MYSELF OR OR ANYONE ON THE TOWN BOARD IS LOOKING TO SOLICIT THIS.
SO I RECEIVED SOME MIXED MESSAGES THAT SOME OF THE AMBULANCE CORES MAY, MAY THINK THAT THE TOWN IS, IS LOOKING TO DO THIS.
WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THE TOWN, UH, THE VILLAGES, IF THERE'S A NEED FOR EXPANDED AMBULANCE SERVICE, I THINK IT WOULD BE MOST PRUDENT TO GO WITH THE TOWN.
BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE WE LOOKING TO SOLICIT THIS.
UM, ALSO WE DO HAVE AN AMBULANCE THAT'S DEDICATED TO DO MUTUAL AID IN THE VILLAGES.
THE DISTINCTION IS IT'S NOT STAFFED, YOU KNOW, SO YOU TAKE STAFF FROM THE TOWN AND WE, WE KNOW THAT MUTUAL AID, THE PROCESS GOES THROUGH 60 CONTROL, AND WHEN WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE VILLAGES, UH, WITH AN AMBULANCE, WE DO SO.
AND WE HAVE ONE THAT'S EARMARKED, IT WAS FUNDED IN THE A LINE LONG BEFORE I WAS CHIEF, AND IT'S BEEN RECURRING PROBABLY JUST ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT IS EARMARKED TO GO INTO THE VILLAGES.
SO, UH, WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THE VILLAGES AND, UH, WE SUPPORT THE AMBULANCE CORES AS WELL.
AND WE KNOW THAT THIS ISSUE MAY HAVE BEEN EXACERBATED BY COVID AND GETTING VOLUNTEERS TO COME OUT.
IT COULD BE, UM, A, A SHORT-TERM PROBLEM, BUT I, FOR SOME AMBULANCE CORES, BUT FOR SOME OTHERS, I KNOW THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
SO WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU AND WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU AND, UM, WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU.
SO DO YOU, CHIEF, DO YOU THINK THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE, UM, SOME SORT OF, UM, LIKE SMALL WORKING GROUP THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, CRUNCH THE NUMBERS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THIS, AND THEN BEFORE THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, MAYBE COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE, UH, TO THE TOWN BOARD? YES.
I, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE IF THE AMBULANCE COURTS, UM, CAN EXIST.
WE DON'T WANNA PUT THEM OUTTA BUSINESS.
SO IF WE CAN SUPPORT THEM AND SUPPLEMENT THEM, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD OPTION.
SO, SO THAT, SO THAT'S REALLY THE, I THINK WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, A, A GOOD, YOU KNOW, A GOOD SUGGESTION.
UM, THIS WAY WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS ANY PROBLEMS WE COULD PUBLICIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ADVANTAGES, UM, THE VOLUNTEERS OFFER AND, UH, THE BENEFITS TO BECOMING A VOLUNTEER AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF THE VOLUNTEERS FEEL THAT OF AN EXTRA AMBULANCE OR STAFF IS NEEDED, UH, THAT AND THE VILLAGES FEEL IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER AND, AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
JARED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING AND THEN, UH, ANY OF THE, UH, VOLUNTEERS COULD SPEAK? UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
UM, THANKS FOR, UH, JOINING THE TOWN BOARD TONIGHT.
JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, UH, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND, UH, UH, MICHAEL MILLS HAS SAID, UM, THE ONE THING I WANT TO REITERATE IS, IS THE IMPORTANCE OF VOLUNTEERS.
I'M A LIFELONG VOLUNTEER FOR DOPPS FERRY.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, 20 PLUS YEARS.
AND OUR GOAL IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, PUSH ANYONE AWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY IS TO WORK WITH ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND, AND, AND MAKE A, A STRONGER AND BETTER SYSTEM.
UM, THAT THESE ARE DEFINITELY, UH, DIFFICULT TIMES AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR WITH THE COVID, BUT OUR, OUR OVERALL GOAL IS
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TO SUPPORT THE VILLAGES HOWEVER THEY NEED IT, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, SAVE LIVES AND REDUCE RESPONSE TIMES.AND I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.
AND I, I THINK, UH, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND, AND, UH, MICHAEL MILLS REALLY JUST HIT IT ON THE HEAD.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I GUESS I'LL SPEAK, UH, THIS IS GREG, CAPTAIN OF LEY VAC.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING US.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US ALL TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND GREENBURG.
I THINK THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, IS OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.
SO MOVING FORWARD, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA FOR US TO GET TOGETHER, MEET HASH THINGS OUT, FIGURE THINGS OUT, AND MAKE IT, UH, MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? NO, I'M MAURICE SILBIGER.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD AT AVAC, AND I AGREE WITH MY CAPTAIN, AND I THINK, UH, GETTING TOGETHER WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY.
HI, I AM, UH, JOHN LINNER, CHIEF OF THE HASTINGS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE RUN THE, UH, E M S IN, UH, VILLAGE.
UH, I WAS PART OF THAT GROUP, UH, FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO.
UH, I THINK WE DID A LOT OF LEGWORK THEN, UH, THAT CAN BE USED FOR THIS.
AND I, I DO AGREE THAT A SMALLER, UH, WORKING GROUP WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS AND THEN BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.
AND, UH, HASTINGS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT WORKING GROUP.
I'M CAPTAIN OF EARRINGS AND VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE CORPS, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO PAUL AND THE VILLAGE BOARD, UH, FOR ALLOWING US VOLUNTEERS TO COME IN ON YOUR MEETING AND EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS FOR, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD THAT WERE GOING ON.
UM, I LIKE WHAT I HEARD FROM CHIEF MCNERNEY, UM, AND FROM JARED IN TERMS OF HOW THINGS WOULD GO AND AS PAUL HAD EXPLAINED THINGS, UH, SO THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A FEW MISUNDERSTANDINGS AS THINGS TRAVELED DOWN THE PATH.
UM, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH, WE, WE, I, I AM RETIRED FROM GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WORKED THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, I HAVE OVER 40 YEARS WITH I A C AND I'VE BEEN CAPTAIN HERE FOR OVER 10.
SO I'M ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE OLD DOGS, AS YOU COULD PUT IT.
UM, THE IDEA OF ALL THE CAPTAINS HAVE SITTING DOWN WITH A MEETING WITH PAUL AND WITH THE BOARD AND WITH GREENBERG POLICE, ET CETERA, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HASHED OUT.
UM, I, FOR ONE, WE MET WITH ARDSLEY AND A FEW OTHER CAPTAINS APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS AGO, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING AMONGST, UH, KINDA LIKE A CAPTAIN'S ASSOCIATION MEETING TO DISCUSS A FLY AMBULANCE AS WE REFERRED TO IT, SUCH AS THE PARAMEDIC FLY CARD THAT GREENBERG ALREADY HAS FOR OUR VILLAGES.
AND WE WERE, WE KIND OF LOOKED INTO IT, JARED WAS PART OF IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE HAVING SOME KIND OF EXTRA AMBULANCE THAT COULD ASSIST IF THINGS GOT VERY, VERY BUSY, UM, FROM WHAT WE WERE TOLD WAY BACK THEN, IT WOULD TAKE ALL SIX VILLAGES TO AGREE ON IT.
AND SINCE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, NOTHING CAME TO FRUITION.
UM, IRVINGTON IN ITSELF HAS NOT HAD TO CALL MUTUAL AID INTO OUR VILLAGE FOR ANY CALLS.
WE HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY SELF-SUSTAINED.
WE NOT ONLY HANDLE ALL OF OUR CALL VOLUME, UH, GIVE OR TAKE ONE OR TWO THINGS AS RECENTLY AS TWO CALLS CAME IN WITHIN 60 SECONDS OF EACH OTHER THE OTHER DAY.
SO WE WERE FORCED TO CALL IN A MUTUAL AID AMBULANCE.
WE CAN'T BE IN TWO PLACES AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE HANDLED NOT ONLY ALL OF OUR CALLS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WITH DOBBS FERRY GOING THROUGH A RESTRUCTURING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UH, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN THE FULL COVERAGE FOR THE VILLAGE OF DOBBS FERRY AND HANDLING ALL OF THEIR AMBULANCE CALLS TO POINT.
WE HAVE HANDLED OVER A HUNDRED AMBULANCE CALLS FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER SO FAR.
SO YES, IT HAS BEEN BUSIER FOR US, BUT IRVINGTON'S A VERY SMALL VILLAGE, AND WE DON'T GET A HUGE CALL VOLUME.
I WOULD SAY ON AVERAGE, WE HANDLE ABOUT 35 CALLS, 30 TO 35 CALLS IN OUR VILLAGE A MONTH.
AND WE MUTUAL AID, UH, FREQUENTLY TO DOBBS FERRY TERRYTOWN ON RARE OCCASION, HARDLEY, VERY RARE OCCASION.
WE WERE MUTUAL AID A LOT TO HASTINGS THAT HAS SUBSIDED.
UM, AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
WE'RE ALL E M S AGENCIES AND I, I KNOW MOST OF ALL THE PEOPLE I'VE BEEN, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND I, I REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH EVERYONE.
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AND, UM, I, I SPEAK TO DOBBS VERY FREQUENTLY, AND THEY ARE WORKING ON RESTRUCTURING AND GETTING THEIR AGENCY, YOU KNOW, BACK UP AND RUNNING, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD THING.UH, HATE TO SEE ANYBODY GO OUT.
UM, SO WE'RE HANDLING WHAT WE HAVE TO HANDLE AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR US.
BUT I ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, IF EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN SAYING TONIGHT, I DON'T WANNA SEE ANYONE LOSE A MUTUAL AID OPPORTUNITY.
I, I WELCOME GREENBERG INTO A MUTUAL AID SYSTEM, BUT I WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE GREENBERG SOLELY PICK UP ALL THE MUTUAL AID CALLS, SAY IF DOBS FERRY DIDN'T HAVE AN AMBULANCE, THAT GREENBERG WOULD BE FIRST UP TO MUTUAL AID AS OPPOSED TO CALLING THE, UH, ADJOINING VILLAGE FOR ASSISTANCE.
BECAUSE WE DO, AS AGENCIES RELY ON THE REVENUE RECOVERY THAT WE GET, UH, TO SURVIVE.
IT'S, IT'S OUR INCOME BASICALLY.
AND WE DO NOT GET ALL, I WON'T GO INTO A WHOLE BILLING ISSUE OF WHAT THE AGENCIES GET, BUT WE COULD BILL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR AN AMBULANCE RIDE, BUT YOU DON'T GET THAT.
YOU ONLY GET WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DECIDE THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU.
OKAY? SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT MAKING A FORTUNE, BUT YOU'RE MAKING ENOUGH TO SURVIVE.
UH, AS PAUL DID MENTION EARLY, UH, WHEN HE STARTED THIS MEETING WAS THAT WE IRVINGTON, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE DOBBS FERRY.
ARDSLEY TERRYTOWN, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD INCLUDE ELMSFORD OR HASTINGS AS THEY ARE FIRE DEPARTMENT AMBULANCE COURSE PER SE.
UH, WE RELY ON OUR REVENUE RECOVERY AND DONATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE NOT FUNDED BY ANY RESIDENT TAX DOLLARS.
WE ARE NOT FUNDED BY ANY VILLAGE GOVERNMENT, SO WE DON'T GET NOT A PENNY FROM ANY OF THAT.
AND PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH RAISING MONEY FOR ALL OF THE CORES IS THAT THE MAKEUP OF OUR VILLAGES HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN AND THEY COME FROM PLACES WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR E M SS.
AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE UP HERE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
UM, IN SOME AREAS IT IS, BUT, UH, FOR OUR VILLAGES, THE TAXPAYERS DO NOT PAY FOR THEIR E M S SERVICE, NOT A DIME.
THE VILLAGE GOVERNMENTS DO NOT PAY I A C FOR OUR SERVICES.
WE PROVIDE OUR SERVICES IN, IN A SENSE, FREE OF CHARGE.
UH, THOUGH WE DO BILL THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES AND IT'S CALLED THE SOFT BILLING.
WE DON'T GO AFTER ANYBODY FOR THE MONEY OR THEIR INABILITY TO PAY.
OKAY? SO IF, IF THE IRVINGTON HISTORICAL SOCIETY DID A VERY BIG EXPOSE ON IVA PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE, AND IT WAS HANDLED BY SOME, UH, VERY SMART PEOPLE AND VERY GOOD HISTORIANS WHO DISCOVERED THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE 1960S AND THE 1970S WERE FAR MORE GENEROUS WITH THEIR DONATION DONATIONS TO THE AMBULANCE CORPS THAN THEY ARE IN THE 1990S, TWO THOUSANDS.
UM, AND EVERY YEAR WE SEE DONATIONS GO DOWN MORE AND MORE BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF THE VILLAGE, AS I SAID, HAS CHANGED.
AND PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE FIRM BELIEF.
AND I WOULD, IF I HAD TO GIVE YOU A FAIR ESTIMATE, I HAVE NOTHING TO BACK IT UP, BUT JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE IN OUR TOWN, 90% OF OUR VILLAGES THINK THEIR TAXES PAY FOR US.
AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME IS FOR HELP WITH GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT YOUR AGENCIES RELY ON DONATIONS.
AND NOBODY SEEMS TO WANT US TO HELP US GET THE WORD OUT.
WE CAN'T GET REACH OUT TO EVERYONE.
SO I HAVE SPOKEN TO PAUL ABOUT THIS, AND PAUL SAID HE WOULD BE WILLING TO ASSIST IN, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME OF THIS OUT, BUT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW.
SO I'M HERE TODAY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL AMBULANCE COURSE, IRVINGTON ORLEY DOS FERRY TERRYTOWN.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, I THINK SOMEONE'S WITH THE HASTINGS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE FUNDED.
I'M NOT SURE BY YOUR VILLAGES, MR. LINDER.
UH, OUR, UH, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES ARE, BUT WE, NONE OF OUR MEMBERS ARE PAID EITHER, AND WE DON'T BILL.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE SAME WITH THE, UH, VAX.
WE ALSO HAVE PAID PER DIEMS. THEY ARE ON A PER DIEM BASIS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, ET CETERA.
AND, UH, WE HAD NO CHOICE IN THAT MATTER, TO PUT PAID PER DIEMS ON BECAUSE, UH, AS WE ALL KNOW ACROSS AMERICA, VOLUNTEERISM IS DOWN.
AND IT, ESPECIALLY WITH COVID NOW TRYING TO GET VOLUNTEERS IN, UH, NOBODY WANTS TO CATCH A VIRUS.
NOBODY WANTS TO CATCH A DISEASE.
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SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, AND THEY ARE STILL WITH OUR AGENCY.BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WHILE COVID IS PRESENT, THEIR, THEIR FULL-TIME PAY EMPLOYMENT TO EARN THEIR LIVING IS NOT PERMITTING THEM TO RIDE ON AN AMBULANCE CORPS FOR FEAR OF GETTING C O V I D IN CONTACT WITH ALL THESE SICK PEOPLE AND BRINGING THAT INTO THEIR RESEARCH FACILITY OR OFFICE SPACE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOWN EVEN MORE VOLUNTEERS BEING ABLE TO MAN OUR AMBULANCES.
BUT I DO HAVE PER DIEMS, AND WE DO HAVE VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY'RE ALL PUTTING IN A LOT OF HARD WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT GETS AN AMBULANCE WHEN THEY NEED ONE.
AND WE HAVE NOT FAILED, NOT ONE TIME TO PROVIDE AN AMBULANCE FOR ANY CALL WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, WHETHER THAT BE A CALL IN IRVINGTON TERRYTOWN, DOBBS FERRY, ARDSLEY HASTINGS, AND MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE EVEN THE SLEEPY HOLLOW OR ELMSFORD, WHEN THEY GOT OVERWHELMED.
SO I, I THINK I'VE SAID MY PIECE.
I LOOK VERY FORWARD TO A MEETING WITH CHIEF MCNERNEY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND TO JARED ROSENBERG AND PAUL FINER AND YOUR WHOLE TOWN BOARD FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN MEET IN A SOMEWHAT OF A PRIVATE MEETING, UH, WHERE WE CAN JUST FEEL OPEN TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
UH, I'M JUST ASKING, UH, CHIEF, WOULD YOU BE, UH, CHIEF MCNERNEY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UM, LIKE HEAD UP THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE A MEETING AND WE COULD THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HASH OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT ACTION STEPS THE TOWN COULD TAKE TO UM, HELP PUBLICIZE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS OF BECOMING A VOLUNTEER, UM, HELPING THE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, RAISE, UH, FUNDS OR OBTAIN, UH, GRANTS.
I KNOW, UM, UH, YOU MCALLY AND YOU MYSELF, WE MET WITH, UM, SENATOR COUSINS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND WE GOT AN AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW, DONATED, WORKED WITH, UH, UH, WITH, UH, THE MAYOR OF LEY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ON THAT MAYBE THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO FOR, UH, FOR THE VOLUNTEERS AND, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK THAT WE COULD REALLY MAKE THIS A, YOU KNOW, A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY AND HAVE A STRONGER VOLUNTEER FOR US AFTER THESE MEETINGS.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT GREENBERG MAINTAINS ITS REPUTATION OF BEING, LIKE THE SAFEST PLACE IN, UH, IN THE COUNTRY TO GET A HEART ATTACK.
I REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO, LOHA THE JOURNAL NEWS.
UH, THEY DID A NATIONAL, UM, UH, STORY ON THE GREENBERG A M SS PROGRAM.
I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY ONE, UM, IN THE COUNTRY, IN THE STATE, UH, THAT HAS IT.
AND THEY, THEY ACTUALLY DID SAY THAT WE WERE THE BEST PLACE FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA GET A, GET SICK TO GET SICK BECAUSE OF THE, THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE E M S PROGRAM.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY.
I THINK THEY ACTUALLY DID MENTION HEART ATTACK AS OPPOSED TO JUST GETTING SICK.
DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THE ARTICLE AND I, UH, CAN'T FIND IT.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE BETTER, UH, BETTER ABILITY OF GETTING COPIES, THAT WOULD BE A, A NICE ARTICLE TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.
BUT THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO TO HELP PUBLICIZE, UM, THAT IT'S NOT TAXPAYER FUNDS THAT'S BEING USED FOR THE AMBULANCE SERVICE.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M ALREADY PAYING MY TAXES.
WHY SHOULD I CONTRIBUTE? SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE VERY HOPEFUL INFORMATION TO GET OUT.
AND THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THEY MAY BE NURSES, THEY MAY BE, UH, DOCTORS, THEY MAY BE WORKING IN HOSPITALS.
AND IF THEY REALIZE THAT THEY COULD GET 10% OFF THEIR TAXES, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, BY PARTICIPATING.
AND I THINK, AND THIS IS, I'M NOT SURE YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO PEOPLE IN A FAMILY, COULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE 20% OFF? YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG, A BIG CHUNK OF, UH, A REAL ESTATE TAX FOR VOLUNTEERING.
I WAS, I WAS A PART, AND ACTUALLY I HAVE THE MINUTES OF ALL THE MEETINGS WE MET IN, IN THE PAST REGARDING THIS WHOLE PROJECT.
THIS WHOLE PROJECT WAS NOT ACCEPTED ALL OVER.
TERRYTOWN DID NOT LIKE IT, BUT THEY WENT WITH IT AND THEY CAME TO THE MEETING.
SOME OF THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS WERE
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REALLY HESITANT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT DECIDE RIGHT IN AND THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.THE WAY I SEE IT, WE HAVE ENOUGH AMBULANCES ON ALL THE VILLAGES.
WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO WORK IS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE AMBULANCE COURSE.
IT MEANS IF I AM TIRED, I COULD CALL IRVING AND AND SAY, GUYS, GUYS, CAN YOU COVER ME? IF THERE IS COMMUNICATION, WE COULD COVER EACH OTHER.
ONE AMBULANCE THAT GREENBERG IS GONNA COME WITH IT AS A MUTUAL AID IS NOT GONNA REALLY HELP BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AMBULANCE.
AND IN REALITY, IN REALITY, IF POST COME SHOP AND I GOTTA PUT A PER DIEM ON MY AMBULANCE, THEN I GOTTA PUT A PER DIEM.
THE WHOLE ISSUE IN HERE IS THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US ALL AS AMBULANCES AND BETWEEN GREENBERG.
I MEAN, IF THERE IS, WE COULD MAKE REGULAR MEETINGS.
WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES.
IT WAS AMAZING THAT I HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT AN ISSUE LIKE THIS AND ROLLOUT LIKE THAT ON FACEBOOK.
USUALLY I WILL GET AN EMAIL OR A LETTER INTO OUR AMBULANCES SAYING, THERE IS AN ISSUE WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
ALL OF A SUDDEN MY KIDS COME SAYING, DAD, DAD, DAD.
I SAID, WHAT HAPPENED? HE SAYS, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE AMBULANCE? YOU GUYS ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS? I SAID, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SO I'M LEAVING NOW, THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT AN AMBULANCE AND ABOUT CHANGES, AND WE DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US AND THE A L S IN GREENBURG? THE LAST TIME WE HAD, WE HAD AN ISSUE AND IT CAME INTO YOUR OFFICE.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT PUT US APART.
WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES AND WE DISCUSS IT, IT SHOULD NOT PUT US APART.
THE CHIEF LIVES IN ARDSLEY, AND HE'S IN GREENBURG.
JARED LIVES IN
I LIVE IN LEY AND I WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND IF I SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE DO NOT BE OPEN TO BUY IT.
JUST TAKE IT AS AN ADVICE AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
I MEAN, I STILL HAVE THE, THE STUFF, AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED MORE, WE AMBULANCE CALL COULD HELP EACH OTHER.
I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, WE JUST, WE ARE GETTING AN AMBULANCE DELIVERED ON MONDAY.
WE WORK HARD TO GET THINGS DONE, AND WE COULD SHARE OUR RESOURCES WITH OTHERS, AND WE EXPECT THEM TO SHARE IT WITH US.
IT SOUNDS LIKE I AM GONNA BE THE HERO.
I AM JUMPING IN AND I'M GONNA SAVE THE DAY.
OKAY? YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA SAVE THE DAY, BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, AS MICHAEL KNOWS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL CREW ON WITH FULL MEDICAL BENEFIT WITH FULL, FULL, FULL, FULL EVERYTHING.
WHILE I COULD PUT A CREW WITH PER DIEM ON A 10 99 WITH $12 AN HOUR, THAT IS NOT GONNA CAUSE THE VILLAGE ANYTHING.
THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO.
THE ONLY WAY WE DO IT, IF YOU TALK TO US AND WE TALK TO YOU, IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH US FOR CERTAIN THINGS, COME TAKE HOME.
THIS IS THE ISSUE, GUYS, IN OUR IN LEY, WE NEED TO DO THIS, THIS, CAN YOU HELP US OUT? BUT DON'T REALLY LEAVE US OUT LIKE THIS.
I AM OPEN TO GOING TO ANY MEETINGS.
I'M OPEN TO GO ANYWHERE AS LONG AS WE WORK TOGETHER.
AND I DON'T VOLUNTEER BECAUSE I WANNA BE HERE.
NO, I VOLUNTEER BECAUSE I'M A NEIGHBOR AND I WANNA BE GOOD TO MY NEIGHBOR.
AND I HOPE MY KIDS ONE DAY WILL DO THE SAME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
I THINK WHAT I TAKE AWAY FROM, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO SIT DOWN AROUND THE TABLE OR AROUND A ZOOM IN THESE TIMES THAT WE SIT AND WE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE OURSELVES BETTER, AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SERVICING GREENBERG, UM, TO THE FULLEST AS WE ALWAYS INTEND TO.
SO I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT, I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR NEXT STEPS IS THAT, UM, COUNCIL, WELL, THE BOARD AND, AND THE E M S COME TOGETHER, SIT DOWN, HAVE A CONVERSATION, FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AND WORK AS ONE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK? SUPERVISOR FINER? I BELIEVE I GOT A CHAT FROM JEFFREY SHERWIN WHO HAS TO SPEAK.
UH, I'M A MEMBER OF, UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF UNINCORPORATED AND, UH, LITTLE BIT, I GUESS, AND BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH CHIEF MCNERNEY OVER THE YEARS AND, AND OTHER ACTIVISM, I'VE BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF AN E M S AFICIONADO.
UM, FIRST THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERISM LIKE THAT.
UH, WHILE I LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED, AND IF I WERE TO CALL 9 1 1, I EXPECT THAT THE GREENBERG POLICE WOULD COME AND SAVE ME.
I KNOW THAT I HAVE FRIENDS IN ALL OF THOSE VILLAGES, AND IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN TO ME OVER THERE, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ME.
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UM, I I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE WAYS IN WHICH THE, UM, THE DIFFERENT VILLAGES OPERATE WHEN IT COMES TO BILLING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.AND IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO A SHARED SERVICES APPROACH FOR E M S, WHICH ABSOLUTELY MAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF SENSE WHERE EVERYBODY SORT OF WORKS TOGETHER, UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY BE A WIN-WIN.
BUT IT COULD ALSO, BASED UPON HOW IT GETS PUT TOGETHER, BE A VERY, VERY, VERY BIG LOSE FOR UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG.
AND I JUST SORT OF WANNA HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT BEFORE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA EMBARK ON A PRIVATE CLOSED MEETING COMMITTEE SITUATION WHERE NOBODY'S GONNA HAVE A VIS VISIBILITY AS TO WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, THE INFORMATION IS PUBLIC AND IT MAKES ITS WAY INTO THAT MEETING.
FIRST THING IS, THERE ARE SIX AMBULANCES THAT GREENBERG PURCHASES OUT OF THE, A BUDGET THAT ARE TOWN WIDE THAT THE VILLAGES HAVE ACCESS TO.
AND SO IT TO SAY THAT THE AMBULANCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO VILLAGES AND UNINCORPORATED ARE NOT PAID FOR BY TAXES IS NOT ACCURATE.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY, I'M SURE AMBULANCES THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THE VAX, BUT THE VILLAGES HAVE PAID FOR AT LEAST THREE AMBULANCES THAT THE TOWN OWNS AND IT'S IN, AND IT'S IN THE 2020 BUDGET.
THING TWO IS EVERYBODY IN UNINCORPORATED GETS THE, GETS THE, THE SOFT BILLING DONE.
SO WHILE SOME VILLAGES MAY SOFT BILL AND OTHERS DON'T, WE IN THE V IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, ALL HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR RIDES, OR AT LEAST OUR INSURANCE COMPANIES DO.
AND THREE, THE THE PEOPLE WHO DRIVE THOSE BUS DRIVE, THOSE, UH, THOSE AMBULANCES ARE POLICE OFFICERS THAT COME OUT OF THE B BUDGET AND CIVILIAN EMTS THAT ARE ALSO OUT OF THE B BUDGET, WHICH MEANS IT'S UNINCORPORATED ONLY THAT'S PAYING FOR THEM.
AND IN 2017, CHIEF MCNERNEY AND I HAD SOME BACK AND FORTH ABOUT SOME DATA, AND WE, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT IN THAT YEAR, GREENBURG PD PROVIDED 270 RIDES FREE OF CHARGE TO THE VILLAGES OF ELMSFORD HASTINGS ARDSLEY, AND I BELIEVE DOBBS FERRY.
AND ALTHOUGH I CAN CHECK IT, UM, WHEN THOSE SAME VILLAGES ONLY PROVIDED 24 RIDES IN REVERSE, NOW WE GET THE FACT THAT IT'S VOLUNTEER.
BUT MUTUAL AID, I, I BELIEVE, HAS A CONCEPT OF RECIPROCITY.
AND IN THIS SITUATION, WE HAVE THREE FACTORS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
ONE, WE'RE PAYING FOR, WE'RE PAYING OUT OF TAX DOLLARS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING THOSE, DRIVING THOSE, DRIVING THOSE BUSES.
WHEREAS IN, IN THE VILLAGES, YOU KNOW, IT'S VOLUNTEER AND THAT'S AMAZING.
TWO, THE VILLAGES OWN THE AMBULANCES THAT ARE COMING FROM MUTUAL AID.
UH, AND THREE, THERE'S THIS DISCREPANCY AS TO WHEN PEOPLE ARE PAYING AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING.
AND ALL OF THESE THINGS REALLY DO MUDDY UP THE WATER ON TOP OF THE ISSUE OF RECIPROCITY.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT MAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF SENSE, I, I HOPE IT MAKES SENSE FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE RIGHT HERE I SEE THAT WE HAVE VILLAGE REPRESENTATION HERE, BUT I DON'T SEE UNINCORPORATED MEMBER RESIDENTS WHO FRANKLY ARE REALLY LOOKING TO OUR TOWN WHERE THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS ARE IN THE VILLAGES REPRESENTING OUR INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH IN A SHARED SERVICES APPROACH, WHICH IS DEFINITELY THE MODERN WAY OF GOING, ENDS UP BEING GOOD FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
THAT'S JEFFREY, IF I MAY JUMP IN REALLY QUICKLY, THIS WAS A FANTASTIC OUTLINE.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING FROM THE STATISTICS.
UH, I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS FOR LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE, OR RATHER THIS YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE.
ARDSLEY ITSELF HAS COVERED A HUNDRED CALLS FOR IN GREENBURG AND 95 CALLS, UH, LAST YEAR.
SO A HUNDRED CALLS A YEAR BEFORE AND 95 LAST YEAR FOR UNINCORPORATED OR JUST, OR, OR JUST, OR, OR, OR GREENBURG TOWN WIDE.
SO HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS TO UNINCORPORATED WERE CALLED AS MUTUAL.
WE WERE CALLED IN AS MUTUAL LATE.
BUT TO, BUT THAT WAS TO OTHER VILLAGES TOO.
NO, THIS IS GREENBERG SPECIFICALLY.
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IRVINGTON AND, AND ELMSFORD SERVES, UH, I'M SAYING HASTINGS HAS A AMBULANCE CORPS AND SERVING, UH, PARTS OF, UH, DONALD PARK IN THAT AREA.OH, UH, OUR AMBULANCE IS NOT CONTRACTED FOR DONALD PARK'S.
FIRE IS, UH, DONALD PARK, NOT THE AMBULANCE.
UM, WE, WE DID NOT COVER THAT.
WE HAD DO RESPOND FOR MUTUAL AID.
AND, UH, I I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE PUT OUT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE A L S RESPONSES OR AMBULANCES? BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T THINK WE GET THAT MANY B L SS UH, UH, RESPONSES FROM GREENBERG INTO THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON MUTUAL AID.
WE DO, AS PART OF THE VILLAGE.
THE VILLAGE TOWNS GET THE, UH, PARAMEDICS, BUT, UH, BBL S AMBULANCES, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE GET MUCH.
I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THOSE NUMBERS YOU HAVE AND, UH, CONFIRM THEM.
SO THIS IS B L S NO, NO, YOU ARE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS OF GREENBERG B L SS RESPONSES INTO THE VILLAGE TOWN PACKAGE.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I I, I KNOW IN HASTINGS WE DON'T GET MANY, WE DO GET THE PARAMEDIC RESPONSES, BUT NOT THE BBL S RESPONSES.
UM, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS IF WE COULD GET 'EM FROM THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S SPEAKING PRIOR.
YEAH, I MEAN, I GOT 'EM FROM CHIEF MCNERNEY AND THE IN, IN THE QUESTION LINE, I'M LOOKING AT 'EM NOW, WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR B L S TRANSPORT.
SO THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD THEN.
AND SPECIFICALLY THE VILLAGES THAT WERE LISTED IN THAT WERE HARDLEY PROVIDED TWO CO TWO RUNS.
UH, ELMSFORD PROVIDED 21 RUNS.
TERRYTOWN PROVIDED THREE RIDES.
LET ME CLEAR THIS OUT FOR YOU SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND.
THERE IS A DUAL RESPONSE BETWEEN US AND BETWEEN GREENBERG.
AND THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE BETWEEN US AND GREENBERG TWO, THE AMBULANCE THAT, THAT LEY HAVE AND
AND, UH, AND WE BOUGHT OUR OWN AMBULANCES.
THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH GREENBERG.
GREENBERG NEVER GAVE US A PENNY TO BUY AN AMBULANCE.
OKAY? SO WE DO THAT WORK AND WE GET THE AMBULANCE, THE AMBULANCES THAT YOU, THE AMBULANCES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR A L SS AND WE PAY FROM OUR TAXES FOR A L SS.
SO I WANNA BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORK, THIS WHOLE THING IS ALL A MIXED UP AND WE ALL ARE IN IT.
AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THIS SHOULD NOT BE EVEN DISCUSSED HERE.
I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD JUST SIT THERE AND TALK AND FIGURE THINGS OUT.
BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT, COMMUNICATION IS GONNA TAKE US A MILE AWAY.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SAY HE DID.
THIS IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND WE ALL COVER EACH OTHER.
YOU UNDERSTAND? AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, I BELIEVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BEING FIRE, N E M SS, WE DO BOTH IN HASTINGS ON THE FIRE END, WE HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH ALL THE CHIEFS IN THE BATTALIONS WHERE WE SIT DOWN, WE GO OVER ISSUES, PROBLEMS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COMMUNICATE MORE THAN MONTHLY, BUT WE HAVE AN ACTUAL MEETING MONTHLY WITH ALL THE CHIEFS IN THE VILLAGE TOWNS THAT ARE IN OUR BATTALION.
WHEREAS E M S DOESN'T, THE OTHER THING WE DO DIFFERENTLY, UH, SO TOWNS USE IT, SOMETIMES DON'T.
BUT WE, WE U WE'RE USING 60 CONTROL FOR OUR PRIMARY DISPATCHER.
SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE FIRE END, IT WORKS REAL GREAT.
'CAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY'S ON IT.
BUT E M S SOME ARE STICKING WITH THE VILLAGES AND AS THE, YOU KNOW, BEING DISPATCHED BY THE VILLAGE AND NOT E M S AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, LIKE YOU GUYS HAD THAT SHOOTING UP THERE IN ARDSLEY, UH, A WHILE BACK, AND THERE WAS NO, UH, MASS COMM, YOU KNOW, UH, MUTUAL FREQUENCY, UH, AMONGST SOME OF THE VILLAGE AMBULANCES.
WHEREAS IF THEY'RE ALL USING 60 CONTROL, IT'S ALL MUTUAL.
EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME DIVISION, EVERYBODY HEARS WHAT'S GOING ON.
EASY COMMUNICATION AND, UH, EASY COORDINATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I, YOU KNOW, YOU AS THE E M S IN THE RIVER TOWNS, WHEN WE DO ALL GET TOGETHER AND STILL DISCUSS THIS, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ALSO DISCUSS KIND OF HAVING A BATTALION OR ZONE, OR WHATEVER YOU YOU WANT TO CALL IT, MEETING MONTHLY OF THE HEADS OF THE E M S VOLUNTEER, E M SS AGENCIES AND THE PARAMEDICS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT CLEARS A LOT OF ISSUES UP BEFORE THEY BECOME ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, SHARES A LOT OF INFORMATION AND, UM, WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS WORKING APART.
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THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.HEY, JOHN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, SO YOU MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED IT'S COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE MEETINGS JUST WITH THE VILLAGES.
IS UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG OR CHIEF MC ERNIE'S STAFF, ARE THEY INCLUDED IN THESE MEETINGS OR INVITATION SENT TO THEM? BECAUSE I FEEL, AND MAYBE WE, AND MAYBE WE CAN BE SAYING THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW, THAT IT APPEARS THAT THE VILLAGES IS HAVING A SEPARATE MEETING WHERE MAYBE UNINCORPORATED NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED AS WELL, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING.
OR MAYBE PERHAPS WE COULD HELP.
I, SO I THINK, I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT I SAID.
ON THE PRIOR END, THE BATTALION, WHICH INCLUDES HARTSDALE, UH, UH, FAIRVIEW AND, UH, GREENVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENTS FIRE, NOT FIRE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE COULD USE THAT AS A MODEL FOR THE E M S AGENCIES IN THIS AREA.
AND YOU, WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HEADS OF THE AGENCIES SIT DOWN AND THEIR ASSISTANTS MEET MONTHLY, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IS EXCHANGED.
A LOT OF ISSUES ARE, UH, UH, STRAIGHTENED OUT PRETTY QUICKLY BEFORE THEY BECOME SOMETHING BIG.
AND, AND TRENDS CAN BE CORRECTED, YOU KNOW, WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN YOU'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND SHARING INFORMATION AS, UH, THE GENTLEMAN FROM LEY SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY BECOME BIGGER PROBLEMS. BUT THE E M S WORLD IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S IN THEIR SEPARATE LITTLE THING.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN WHAT, WHATEVER EXPANSE YOU WANT TO COVER, THE, THE AMBULANCE CORPS AND GREENBURG, UM, I, HASTINGS WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT.
AND I THINK IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HELP ALL THE DIFFERENT TOWNS AND VILLAGES WORK THINGS OUT, AND, YOU KNOW, THEN IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD WORK AS A GROUP TO GET IT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I DID, I DID MISUNDERSTAND THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD, AT THIS POINT, THIS, THIS IS A GREAT SEGUE WHERE WE NEED TO BRIDGE THE GAP OF COMMUNICATION WITH UNINCORPORATED IN THE VILLAGES.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ARE ONE TOWN.
IS, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THIS NEEDS TO BE A PRIVATE MEETING AND WHY IT WOULDN'T, WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY TO SORT OF BE LIKE, TO GET THE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THE PLANS ARE BEFORE IT BECOMES RATIFIED AND GOES TO EACH, EACH, EACH INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITY.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA, UM, UH, TAKE ANY, UH, IF THEY WANNA TALK IT OUT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE EXPERTS, THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE POLICE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, TALK OUT, TALK ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PRIVATELY, AND THEN COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN WE WOULD, UH, PUBLICLY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ANY, UM, ON ANY DIS ON ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANT TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER TO RESPOND HERE.
WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS. MAYBE THEY DON'T WANNA PUBLICIZE, UM, UH, RECRUITMENT PROBLEMS OR, UM, UH, MAINTAIN.
BUT ARE THEY GONNA BE DISCUSSING RECRUITING PROBLEMS? ARE THEY GONNA BE DISCUSSING HOW TO FUND THE OPERATIONS? GONNA TALK ABOUT, I WANT THEM TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I WANT THEM TO TALK ABOUT RECRUITMENT.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MAINTAINING.
UM, UM, BUT IN THAT SITUATION, PAUL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE USE OF UNINCORPORATED AND TOWN WIDE TAX DOLLARS.
AND SO IT'S A DIFFERENT THING THAN VOLUNTEERISM AND HOW TO SOOR SORT OF COORDINATE TOGETHER.
AND I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT IN THE 2020 BUDGET IN TOWN WIDE, THERE ARE, THERE IS DEBT SERVICE FOR SIX AMBULANCES HERE.
JEFFREY, I THINK YOU'RE MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WANT.
YOU THINK I WANNA RAISE TAXES.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE FIGHTING THIS MUTUAL AID.
WE DON'T USE ANY TAX DOLLAR FROM YOU OR FROM ANYBODY.
WE ARE A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT RUNS ITSELF.
WE DO NOT USE ONE PENNY FROM ANY TAX DOLLARS.
SO WHATEVER YOU HAVE ON YOUR ID, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT AND EXPLAIN TO YOU.
YOU JUST TONY, TONY, I, I, I, I'M SPEAKING AND, AND WHAT I SAID, WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE WAS THERE'S A 2020 ADOPTED BUDGET TOWN WIDE THAT EVERYBODY IN THE GREEN IN GREENBERG PAYS FOR.
EVERYBODY PAYS FOR, IT'S NOT A VILLAGE TAX, IT'S A TOWN WIDE TAX.
AND IN THERE, THERE IS A LISTING OF SIX AMBULANCES THAT IS PAID FOR IN YOUR TOWN WIDE TAXES.
'CAUSE, BECAUSE THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT IS A TOWN WIDE, UH, BUDGET, UH, I THINK, I THINK WHAT THIS MEETING SHOWS IS THAT THERE'S DESPERATELY NEED, UH, NEED, THERE'S DESPERATE NEED TO HAVE THIS SMALLER GROUP WORK ON THESE ISSUES.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE ALEY C CORPS AMBULANCE CAR, WHICH IS THE AREA WHERE I LIVE, THEY, THAT'S THE UNINCORPORATED
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AREA.THEY COME TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE VILLAGE VOLUNTEER E M S, IT'S NOT SOLELY THE VILLAGE VOLUNTEER E M S, THEY DO MORE THAN THEIR OWN VILLAGE.
AND SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T GET INTO AN US AND THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONE TOWN.
WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA KEEP UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE ONE TOWN.
AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HAVING A HEART ATTACK, YOU WANT THE FASTEST RESPONSE WHEREVER IT'S COMING FROM MM-HMM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON, IS HOW CAN WE GET SERVICE AS FAST AS WE CAN TO THE PERSON WHO NEEDS HELP.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS GROUP CAN WORK ON.
WHILE WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON PUBLICITY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, UH, LET PEOPLE KNOW SO THAT THERE'S NOT MISUNDERSTANDING BETWEEN B L SS AND A L SS AND WHO'S FUNDING WHAT.
UH, SO I, I JUST THINK THAT OUR NEXT, OUR TAKEAWAY FROM THIS MEETING IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD DO IT, BUT HOW QUICKLY CAN WE PUT IT TOGETHER AND GET IT STARTED.
THE TAKEAWAY THAT I'M TRYING TO INFOR I'M TRYING TO ASK FOR FROM MY MUNICIPALITY, FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, IS THAT WHAT, THERE AREN'T BACK ROOM CONVERSATIONS ON THIS.
SMALL COMMITTEES ARE GREAT, BUT THAT THEY'RE OPEN, THAT THEY'RE OPEN UNDER OPEN GOVERNMENT RULES AND SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE THEM, BECAUSE I AGREE, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE GET THE BEST AND FASTEST RESPONSE TIMES IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
BUT IF THREE YEARS AFTERWARDS, IT TURNS OUT THAT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, WHETHER IT BE FAIRVIEW OR HARTSDALE OR NORWOOD OR, OR EDGEMONT, ARE ACTUALLY SHARING THE, A HEAVIER BURDEN BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE, WE'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO PAY, UH, THROUGH SOFT BILLING.
AND WE'RE THE ONES WHO ARE PAYING FOR THE B BUDGET COPS THAT ARE BASICALLY DRIVING THOSE, THOSE AMBULANCES.
I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE UPFRONT.
SO, JEFF, JEFFREY, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT VENUE TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
WHAT I THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS WE NEED TO REALLY EVALUATE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN ALL THE VILLAGES.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE A SMALLER MEETING.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW AND WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE WITHOUT THROWING MORE MONEY TO THE PROBLEM.
AND ONLY THEN I THINK WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BIGGER GROUP DISCUSSION, PUBLIC DISCUSSION, WHICH EVERYBODY WILL HAVE FACTS AND INFORMATION THAT WE ALL CAN SHARE WITH YOU AS OPPOSED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRING BACK AND FORTH WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF GAPS CURRENTLY IN EVERYBODY'S MIND BECAUSE OF THAT PROBLEM THAT TONY HAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
LACK OF COMMUNICATION, WHICH WE'LL NEED TO FIX SO LONG AS THERE'S TRANSPARENCY.
IF I, HEY PAUL, IF I COULD JUST ADD, I, I AGREE WITH GREG.
I MEAN, OPERATIONALLY WE NEED TO GET ALL THE, ALL THE PROVIDERS IN A ROOM AND THEN WE PUBLICLY WE TALK ABOUT FUNDING.
CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEMS? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY.
EVERYBODY'S ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS.
EVERYBODY HAS EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS.
I'LL TAKE THE MOMENT OF SILENCE AS YES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS HEARD.
HEY, MR. MR. YOUNG, MR. YOUNG WANTS TO SPEAK MR. YOUNG, THIS IS YOUR, OKAY.
I, I'M NOT SURE THAT MY MICROPHONE WAS WORKING HERE.
UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A WORD IN EDGE BIAS OVER HERE.
LISTEN, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID TODAY.
UH, AND CERTAINLY, UM, I, IF IT HIGHLIGHTS ANYTHING, UM, THAT EVERY CORE AND EVERY ORGANIZATION IS UNIQUE IN ITSELF, RIGHT? ALTHOUGH WE'RE ALL PART OF THAT SAME TOWNSHIP, RIGHT? BUT THERE IS, AND THIS IS VERY APPARENT.
THERE'S NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION, UH, FOR EVERYBODY.
AND WE NEED TO CONSIDER ALL OF THAT.
UM, YES, WE SHOULD ALL TALK TOGETHER.
UH, AND I THINK TODAY AND TONIGHT IS NOT THE PLACE TO HAMMER OUT THE, THE FINITE NUTS AND BOLTS AND, UM, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF WE CAN MAKE SOME HEADWAY THAT WE WILL GET TO TOGETHER AND TALK.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, EACH CORE IS SO DIFFERENT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE CAN FIND, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE SAME AND, AND, AND, AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
RIGHT? DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? YES.
I BELIEVE THAT MAYOR KABUL WANTED TO SPEAK TOO.
I I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION THAT THE, UM, THE, THAT CHIEF MCNERNEY WOULD BE THE, UM, LEADER IN BRINGING THE PARTIES TOGETHER TO COMMENCE
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A, A MEETING WITH ALL, UM, UM, RELEVANT PARTIES.AND CHIEF, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN BOARD IS INCLUDED AS WELL, PLEASE.
OKAY, NEXT WE COULD GO ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE.
I APPRECI YOU ON THE NEXT, IN ONE SECOND.
EVERYBODY SAY YOU THANK YOUS,
I, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, YOU'RE INVITED TO STAY
I WANTED TO MENTION, UM, THAT, UM, I HAD ASKED TO, UM, UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE TIF DISTRICT.
UM, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED TODAY, THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES.
UH, MY INTENT WHEN I PROPOSED ABOLISHING THE TIF DISTRICT WAS NOT TO, UH, UH, RETURN.
WE ALL BASICALLY BELIEVED THAT WE NEEDED A I A BYPASS.
AND DURING THE PAST, UM, 20 OR 30 YEARS, UH, OR 50 YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL WORKED.
THE TOWN HAS PUSHED THE STATE TO MOVE FORWARD ON A NINE A BYPASS.
STATE'S BEEN STUDYING, STUDYING, STUDYING, AND YOU KNOW, AT TIMES WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA GET CLOSE, BUT THEY'VE NEVER BUILT IT YET.
UM, THERE'S ABOUT $6 MILLION IN FUNDS.
UM, AND WHEN I SAID TO SOME PEOPLE, WE SHOULD ABOLISH THE, THE DISTRICT, MY INTENT WAS NOT TO, UM, ABOLISH IT GOING BACKWARDS, BUT ONLY FORWARDS.
SO THE $6 MILLION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED FOR THE NINE A, UH, BYPASS WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE NINE A BYPASS.
UM, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, SINCE THE MONEY HASN'T BEEN SPENT, THE MONEY, I THINK, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE TIF DISTRICT, NOT THE ONES THAT PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED, SHOULD GO INTO THE B BUDGET TO HELP, UM, OFFSET SOME OF THE BUDGETARY ISSUES.
IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER, UM, WE COULD ABOLISH THE TIF DISTRICT GOING BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS.
WE MIGHT, IF WE ABOLISH IT, WE MAY NOT BE IN A POSITION OF BEING ABLE TO, UM, ALLOCATE THE $6 MILLION, UM, THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, BEEN ALLOCATED, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BYPASS.
SO I JUST, BASICALLY I'M ASKING THAT WE PUT THIS ITEM ON HOLD, UM, FOR A WEEK AND GIVE TIM LEWIS AND, UM, THE ASSESSOR, UM, AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, UM, AND VILLAGE OFFICIALS WHO ARE INTERESTED A CHANCE TO DO FURTHER, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH.
UH, TIM, ARE YOU, YOU HERE? YES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, ERIC ZINGER HAD ASKED TO COMMENT ON, YOU KNOW, ON THIS, UH, HE HAD SUGGESTED THIS ABOUT, UM, A YEAR AGO AT A BUDGET, UH, MEETING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, RIGHT? SO CERTAINLY NO QUESTION THAT WE CAN ABOLISH THE DISTRICT, OR REALLY THE CORRECT TERM IS TO DISSOLVE THE DISTRICT.
IT REQUIRES, UH, THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LAW, UH, AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU KNOW, THE BIG QUESTION IS WHERE THAT MONEY GOES AND WHETHER IT'S, UH, LEGAL TO HOLD IT, UH, AND USE IT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE NINE A BYPASS IT MIGHT BE.
UM, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO EXPLORE THAT AND TO WHAT EXTENT THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE OF NEW YORK STATE HAS TO BE NOTIFIED, AND YOU CAN GIVE THAT INPUT INTO THAT DECISION.
YOU, YOU THINK YOU COULD GET, UH, RE UH, SOME COMMENTS, UH, OR LEGAL OPINION BY NEXT WEEK? UH, A LEGAL OPINION BY NEXT WEEK FROM ME, YES, BUT FROM THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE OR SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPAL AGENCIES? PROBABLY TWO WEEKS.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US LIKE AN UPDATE ON NEXT WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK AND THE WEEK AFTER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET THAT HAS EITHER A 0% TAX HIKE OR A VERY SMALL, UH, TAX HIKE THAT DEFINITELY IS UNDER THE TAX CAP.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE A, A NICE CHUNK OF, OF, OF REVENUE THAT COULD HELP US AVOID, UM,
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YOU KNOW, CUTBACKS.AND THE PROBLEM IS A TIF DISTRICT MONEY JUST KEEPS ACCUMULATING AND IT'S JUST NOTHING USED.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I, I FEEL IT'S, IT'S MONEY THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BETTER SPENT GOING FOR IT.
AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE STATE IS GONNA ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING WITH THE BYPASS.
SS E ERIC, DO YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS? HI, PAUL.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, INTRODUCING ME.
YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE WERE GONNA HOLD IT OVER, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK JUST FOR A MINUTE ON IT.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS A NO-BRAINER.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR WELL OVER TWO YEARS NOW.
UM, AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT, UH, JUST ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID IS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MONEY IS GONNA BE RETURNED TO THE B BUDGET, BUT IT ALSO DOES BENEFIT THE A BUDGET AS WELL.
SO IT BENEFITS BOTH THE A BUDGET AND THE B BUDGET BECAUSE, UM, IT'S ABOUT $320,000 A YEAR, AND 95% OF THAT IS, UM, B BUDGET MONEY, BUT THERE IS STILL ADDITIONAL 15 20,000 THAT'S A BUDGET.
UM, MY PROPOSAL AND WHAT I'VE TRIED TO HAVE DONE HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT THE $6 MILLION THAT'S IN THE FUND.
UH, IT'S NEVER BEEN THE CASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, RAID THAT, THAT STOCKPILE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE MONEY GOING FORWARD, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A REAL NO-BRAINER HERE FOR US TO, UH, DISSOLVE THE DISTRICT IN THIS REGARD.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT THERE WERE ACTUALLY ONLY TWO TIF DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY THAT WERE ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO 2012.
UM, IN TOTAL, THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET CRISIS LOOMING THAT THAT MONEY COULD DESPERATELY USE TO OFFSET EITHER POTENTIAL CUTS OR TAX INCREASES.
AND THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TOWN BOARD, UH, MOVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS IN TIME FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET SO THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL REVENUES CAN BE FACTORED IN.
UM, IT'S TAKEN, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT OF A, UM, BESPOKE SUBJECT.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND RESEARCH TO KIND OF JUST EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS WAS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR FINER, I'M GLAD HE AGREES WITH MY RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE DISSOLVED.
AND I, I HOPE THAT WE DO IT IN TIME TO INCLUDE IT FOR THE, UH, PROPOSED UPCOMING 2021 BUDGET.
SO WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR, UM, FOR NEXT WEEK.
IS MICHAEL MOLES, UM, STILL ON THE LINE? BECAUSE I THINK HE WANTS TO COMMENT.
REMEMBER HE IS GOT A DINNER PARTY GOING ON, SO HE OH MY GOD.
SO CAN I JUST, CAN I JUST JUMP IN WHILE WE WAIT FOR MIKE? I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ERIC ZINGER.
AS YOU KNOW, ERIC HAS BEEN PUSHING THIS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THIS IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING THE WORK FOR YOU, AND IT'S YOUR MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR FROM YOU AND WHATEVER SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS.
UM, THIS IS A TOUGH, THIS IS A TOUGH TIME, AS WE KNOW, WITH THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BUT WHEN WE HEAR SUGGESTIONS LIKE THIS, IT'S VERY, IF WE CAN UTILIZE THEM AND THEY CAN WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S, WE WELCOME THEM.
SO PLEASE LET THEM CONTINUE TO COME THROUGH.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, TWO WEEKS IS PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH TIME.
I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE, UM, SOME, UH, KIM AS WELL AS THE VILLAGE, UH, ATTORNEY LOOKED THROUGH THE, THE STATE LAW AS WELL AS HOW THE DISTRICT WAS SET UP.
UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME ISSUES AND THE WISHLIST OF SOME PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EXACTLY POSSIBLE, BUT WE REALLY NEED SOME TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
AND BY THE WAY, THE VILLAGE SUPPORTS THE VILLAGE TOTALLY SUPPORTS, UM, IF WE CAN, PUTTING THE WHOLE THING TO THE 9, 8 5, WELL, THAT'S WHY WE WROTE IN OUR LAST RESOLUTION, IT HAD TO GO TO DREDGING, THE SAWMILL RIVER OR THE NINE A BYPASS.
IF THE NINE A BYPASS DOESN'T COME TO PASS.
BUT, UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT DOES AT SOME POINT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD ALSO, UM, UM, REACH OUT TO OUR FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES AND GET, GET REALLY INACCURATE ASSESSMENT WHETHER OR THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO WE THOUGHT THE NINE A BYPASS WAS GONNA BE BUILT 20 YEARS AGO, WE THOUGHT 30 YEARS AGO WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE BUILT.
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE NINE A BYPASS FOR DECADES.
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KNOW, STUDIES AND STUDIES AND STUDIES, AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.SO MEANWHILE, UM, YOU KNOW, PLUS IF WE ALLOCATED A $6 MILLION, UH, TO THE NINE A BYPASS, AND IF THE STATE BASICALLY COMES IN WITH A PLAN AND SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA BUILD, UM, THE, THE BYPASS AND WE'RE PUTTING UP $20 MILLION, YOU PUT UP THE 6 MILLION, BUT THE ONLY WAY THE TOWN WE'RE GONNA DO THIS IS THE TOWN'S GONNA HAVE TO PUT IN ANOTHER TWO OR $3 MILLION, THEN WE COULD ALWAYS BOND.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT, IF WE ELIMINATE THE DISTRICT, WE'RE NOT SAYING, YEAH, YOU GO GET A FAMILY CONTRIBUTE, BECAUSE THE BYPASS WOULD PROVIDE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE WHOLE, UM, THE WHOLE REGION.
JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, IN 2021, THAT 200, I THINK ROBERTA THINKS IT'S MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, $270,000, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IF IT'S 270,000 OR 300,000 OR WHATEVER, UM, THAT MONEY, I WOULD RATHER, UH, HAVE THAT MONEY GO TO PEOPLE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG THAT COULD BE USED TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, SERVICES RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, CUT BACK BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, AND THIS IS THE DILEMMA WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET, IS MOST OF THE TAXES ARE SCHOOL TAXES.
THE TOWN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I'M TRYING VERY, VERY HARD TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET WITH VERY LOW TAX INCREASE OR 0% TAX INCREASE.
I'M NOT SURE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO YET, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE NUMBERS.
BUT BOTH OPTIONS ARE GONNA REQUIRE SOME SERVICE CUTS, UM, AND SOME STAFFING, YOU KNOW, CUTS NOT THROUGH LAYOFFS, BUT POSSIBLY THROUGH, UM, ATTRITION.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PAIN.
AND IF WE HAD $270,000, UM, I WOULD RATHER USE THAT FOR, FOR PROGRAMS THAN, THAN THAN CUTBACKS THAT ARE GONNA HURT PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
JUST FOR CONTEXT, UH, THANKS PAUL.
THE ONLY, SO WHEN I WAS DOING, LOOKING AT ALL THIS, THE ONLY, UH, MONEY THAT'S EVER BEEN SPENT OUT OF THE FUND IN THE LAST 20 YEARS IS, UH, FOR ONE OF THREE THINGS.
IT'S EITHER TAX TERTIARIES, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WERE BRIEFED FOR TAXES, UH, AN ENGINEERING STUDY THAT WAS ABOUT $20,000.
AND THEN THERE WAS, UH, ONE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT FRANK WAS REFERRING TO IN THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATION, UH, FOR ABOUT $80,000 FOR CURB CUTS AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BILL OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK GIVEN THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS ARE OBVIOUSLY COMING FROM UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG, UH, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD, ANY MONEY SPENT OUT OF THAT, UH, BUDGET WOULD ONLY BE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE NINE A BYPASS.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, I'M JUST WRAPPING UP REAL QUICK.
I, I THINK IT'S, UH, IMPERATIVE THAT WE MOVE ON THIS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF INCLUDING THESE REVENUES IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO, UH, THANK YOU PAUL FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS UP AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED, UH, UPDATES ON THIS MATTER.
SO, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL HEAR FROM, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, TIM NEXT WEEK AND, AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
I, I ALSO, UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO, UM, UM, EXPRESS OUR CONDOLENCES TO, UH, JUDITH BEVILLE ON, UM, THE ON, UM, LYNN BEVILLES, UM, UH, PASSING.
UH, JUDITH WAS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO LYNN, AND LYNN CONTRIBUTED GREATLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE TOWN, HELPED, UM, MANY OF THE INTERNS, UH, WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR PROGRAMS. AND SHE IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, MISSED AND HER LIFE THAT WILL BE APPRECIATED BY THE MANY PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, SHE MADE SUCH A POSITIVE, UH, IMPACT ON, ON MANY, MANY PEOPLE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVES.
UM, SO OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO JUDITH DURING THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, JUDITH IS, YOU KNOW, SO DEDICATED TO THE TOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFTER THE PASSING OF HER, UM, HER SISTER, UM, UH, I SPOKE TO HER, UM, ON SATURDAY, SHE WAS AT THE TOWN HALL, UH, PUTTING PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS FIRST, UM, AND PUTTING PUBLIC SERVICE, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GRIEVING, SHE'S BEEN COMING TO TOWN HALL, SHE'S BEEN WORKING, SHE'S BEEN HELPING CONSTITUENTS.
AND I, I JUST FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE'S DOING IS,
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IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY SHOULD APPRECIATE AND, AND BE THANKFUL FOR HER, FOR HER DEDICATION.UM, NEXT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, TWO STUDENTS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING PRESENTATIONS.
UM, HAVE A SEVENTH GRADER, UH, SID, UH, KARTHIK, UH, REFLECTIVE CLOTHING.
UH, HE DID, UM, TWO P PSAS ON REFLECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOTHING AND COYOTES.
AND, UM, THEY'RE VERY SHORT PSSAS.
HE'S A SEVENTH GRADER DOING A LOT OF GREAT THINGS, UH, LEARNING ABOUT GOVERNMENT.
NATHAN GOLDBRIDGE IS OFFERING, UM, FREE TUTORING IN BIOLOGY AND CHEMISTRY AND IS LOOKING FOR STUDENTS TO TUTOR.
UM, I, UH, SENT A NOTE TO ANDRE AND, UM, UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, ASKING IF WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HIS, UM, SERVICES.
SOME OF THE, UH, STUDENTS MIGHT ACTUALLY BENEFIT MOVING ON THE AGENDA.
UM, WE'RE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AVALON GREEN, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICATION.
I MEAN, I HAVE, UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH CHANGING, UM, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS AFTER THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, APPROVED UNLESS, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF, UH, EAST IRVINGTON GET, YOU KNOW, GET, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME BENEFITS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY FOR THE AVALON.
UH, THEY MADE PROMISES THAT THEY WERE GONNA PROVIDE SHUTTLE SERVICE, UH, TO THE TRAIN STATION.
AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A PROMISE MADE BEING BROKEN, UM, YOU KNOW, LATER, LATER ON.
SO I REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO VOTE FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS.
UM, FORFEITURE THAT'S RE THE, THAT'S THE VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, UH, CREATING NEW SUB SUBSECTION AUTHORIZING FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES OPERATED BY PERSONS WHILE ENGAGED IN UNLAWFUL SPEED CONTESTS OR RACES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN YONKERS AND Y PLAINS.
TIM, YOU, UH, INDICATED THAT, UH, YOU'RE DOING SOME RESEARCH AND YOU MAY, YOU THINK WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS? WELL, THERE'S CERTAINLY A FEDERAL CASE OUT THERE THAT SAYS, UM, IT COULD BE UNREASONABLE, UM, TO TAKE SOMEONE'S VEHICLE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, UM, THE VALUE OF THAT VEHICLE IS RELATIVE TO THE OFFENSE OF SPEEDING, UM, OR DRAG RACING.
SO WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, UH, IF SOMEONE OWNS, LET'S SAY, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS VEHICLE AND THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, TICKETED WITH, UH, DRAG RACING AND SPEEDING THAT PARTICULAR CASE, AND THAT PARTICULAR JUDGE SAYS THAT WAS UNREASONABLE, AND THERE MAY BE A LESSER AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD TAKE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A JUDGE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, MAKE A DECISION ABOUT IN A FORFEITURE PROCEEDING THAT WAS BROUGHT BY, UM, YOU KNOW, BY THE, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
DID YOU, UH, CHECK WITH YONKERS ON WHITE PLAINS AND SEE, I, I THINK THE, UM, MR. NOLAN MENTIONED THAT YONKERS HAD SUCCESSFULLY FORFEITURE, UM, TIM CARS WHEN HE SPOKE AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS AGO OR A FEW WEEKS AGO.
YEAH, I MEAN, YOU CAN CERTAINLY FORFEITURE CARS, YOU KNOW, AND TAKE THE CARS AND PURSUANT TO A HEARING, UM, EITHER KEEP THOSE CARS OR GIVE THOSE CARS BACK, BUT THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS.
SO I'M GONNA CIRCULATE THAT CASE SO THE BOARD IS AWARE OF IT IN CASE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, BRINGS IT UP AT THE MEETING.
SO WE COULD FORFEITURE A CAR AND THEN THEY WOULD, THE JUDGE WOULD SAY, OKAY, THE, THE MUNICIPALITY TOOK IT OVER, BUT UH, TOOK THE CAR AWAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK TO THEM A MONTH LATER OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN NEW YORK CITY, WHICH HAS A SIMILAR, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, THEY DO FORFEIT, UH, VEHICLES.
THEY DO TAKE YOUR VEHICLE PURSUANT TO, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A DRUG ARREST.
UM, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN, UH, FEE THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY TO THE MUNICIPALITY TO GET THAT VEHICLE BACK.
LET'S SAY IT'S $7,500 OR 30 500,000, OR EVEN $10,000.
BUT WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THOSE FORFEITURE PROCEEDINGS.
AND I'D LIKE THE BOARD TO JUST CONSIDER THAT CASE.
YES, GINA? SO WHAT IS IT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE CONTACTED YONKERS, BUT WHAT WOULD IT BE FOR DRAG RACING? WOULD IT BE, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU, YOU JUST SPOKE OF DRUG, DRUG, UH, I GUESS
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OFFENSES.SO IS THERE SOMETHING, WOULD IT SOMETHING BE DIFFERENT FOR DRAG RACING? BECAUSE THIS IS THE MAIN CONCERN OF THE CONSTITUENTS.
SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM A DRUG? UM, YOU'RE TAKING IT WITH THE CAR AWAY, THE CONFISCATION FROM A DRUG ARREST AS IT OPPOSED TO IT BEING DRAG RACING.
CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT OR, SO WE CAN, YES.
SO WITH THE DIFFERENT DRUG IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIMES, YOU KNOW, IN IN PARTICULAR IT'S, IT'S A CRIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SO SURE RIGHT NOW THAT DRAG RACING IS, IS A CRIME IN
YET WHAT'S, WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA? YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I SEE TWO LOCAL LAWS HERE.
I THINK THERE WERE THREE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, UM, TWO THAT PERTAINED TO CHAPTER FOUR 60.
UM, ONE WAS FOR THE FORFEITURE, THE OTHER WAS THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE THE SPEED VIOLATION, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE, AND THEN THERE WAS THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
SO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHY ON THE AGENDA THERE ARE ONLY TWO LOCAL LAWS WHEN I THINK WE NOTICED THREE.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE POLICE IMPOUNDING THE CAR AND HAVING SOME SORT OF JUDICIAL PROCEEDING WITH RESPECT TO FORFEITURE.
THE, THE QUESTION, IS THE PENALTY IMPOSED? ARE YOU TAKING THE CAR, ARE YOU CHARGING SOME REASONABLE AMOUNT? THAT ISSUE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD HAS TO BE MINDFUL OF, SO THERE'S NO CONS.
UM, AND, AND FORGIVE ME, SO THERE'S NO CONSISTENT AMOUNT ON THE LAW THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN CONFISCATE, YOU CAN CONFISCATE A CAR, UM, AT THIS PRICE, IF YOU WILL.
LIKE, SO YOUR FINE WILL BE, IF WE CONFISCATE YOUR CAR, YOUR CAR, YOUR FINE'S GONNA BE $350, THROW IT OUT THERE.
SO THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE LIKE THAT IN ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS, OR I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ONE IN AGREEMENT AS YET.
IT JUST, IT JUST HAS TO BE A REASONABLE FINE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A FERRARI, LET'S SAY, AND IT'S A NICE THOUSAND DOLLARS FERRARI, AND I'M DRAG RACING AND I'M CONVICTED OF THAT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU CAN KEEP THE $200,000 FERRARI, BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT THAT PENALTY IS JUST IN EXCESS OF REASONABLENESS IN TERMS OF THE CRIME THAT YOU COMMITTED IN ONE JUDGE'S OPINION.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE THAT CASE.
TIM, DID YOU RESPOND TO THE EMAIL I SENT YOU REGARDING THESE LAWS WHERE THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT FORFEITURE IN THE LOCAL LAW? UH, I DID NOT SEE, I DID SEE AN EMAIL FROM YOU.
I, I DID NOT RESPOND TO THAT, SO I OKAY.
BUT, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, WE KEEP BILLING THIS AS A FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, ANY LOCAL LAW THAT TALKS ABOUT FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES.
THE, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ON THE ON AGENDA QUICK TALKS ABOUT INCREASED FINES AND POSSIBLE IMPRISONMENT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD, STANDARD TYPES OF, UH, PENALTIES.
UM, SO THEN I WAS LOOKING, MAYBE THE NOISE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN IT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NOISE.
SO THEN NOW THERE IS A THIRD LAW.
DID YOU SEE THE THIRD LAW? NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH ACTUALLY FORFEITING VEHICLES.
YEAH, SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A THIRD LAW THAT WE NOTICED, AND I'LL, I'LL TRY TO GET THAT TO YOU TOMORROW.
IT MAY BE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON IT, BUT DEFINITELY NOTICE THREE, AND I THINK THERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE'LL CHECK IT OUT.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR, UH, DONALD PARK FOR 2019.
THE CB R A, I'D LIKE TO, UH, PUT, UH, HOLD THAT OVER TILL THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE, UH, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TO ASK VICTOR AND HE'S AWAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, I, I DID SEE AN EMAIL, UH, I THINK IT REFERRED TO NEXTDOOR OR, OR SOMETHING WITH RESPECT TO $50,000 THAT WAS PAID TO C B R E, UH, FOR THIS SERVICES, THAT, THAT'S NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, THAT $50,000 WOULD ONLY BE PAID, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT WE DID COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE AND THE TOWN DID NOT GO THROUGH WITH THAT AGREEMENT.
SO I'LL SEND THAT EXPLANATION AROUND TO THE TOWN BOARD.
YOU KNOW, YOU COULD STILL HOLD IT OVER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT WAS REALLY NOT AN ACCURATE, SO, SO WHAT, SO BASICALLY WHAT WOULD THE COST BE, UH, OF RENEWING THIS? WELL, THERE'S NO COST RIGHT NOW.
AND REALLY THE SERVICE IS BASED ON A, ON A COMMISSION AT THE END.
IF, IF WE ARE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE, THE RESOLUTION JUST AUTHORIZED THE CONTINUED NEGOTIATIONS AND THE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE.
BUT THERE'S NO PAYMENT BEING MADE AT THIS TIME.
IT'S JUST THAT THE OLD AGREEMENT TO NEGOTIATE, I BELIEVE, EXPIRES ON OCTOBER 19TH.
AND SO WE'RE JUST RENEWING THE SAME AGREEMENT, WHICH DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY PAYMENT.
UM, THEN IF, IF, IF IT EXPIRES OCTOBER 19TH AND THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO, UH,
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COST, THERE'S REALLY NO, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL ZERO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE TOWN.BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, I'LL CIRCULATE THAT EMAIL TO YOU TONIGHT AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AS TO WHETHER YOU WANNA VOTE ON IT TOMORROW.
LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION TO THE BOARD, UM, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THE POLICE AND COURTHOUSE ARE NEEDED.
UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANNA PURSUE THIS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR OF, YOU KNOW, FUNDING A MAJOR CAPITAL, YOU KNOW, PROJECT, BUT THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
ALTHOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, PRELIMINARY WORK THAT COULD BE DONE BY C V R E AND OTHERS BETWEEN NOW AND, AND THEN, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HOLD IT? WOULD IT CAUSE ANY DAMAGE TO THE TOWN IF IT'S HELD OVER FOR TWO WEEKS? 10? I THINK WE'LL FIND, I THINK WE'LL KNOW THAT BY TOMORROW NIGHT, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION NOW TOMORROW.
'CAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO OUT-OF-POCKET COST, THOUGH, WE WOULD BE ACCRUING POTENTIAL FIVE THAT MIGHT, JUST TO UNDERSTAND IT, THE EXTENSION WOULD BE AT THE SAME RATE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
SO WHILE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR ANOTHER YEAR, WE WOULD BE ACCRUING $5,000 A MONTH IN FEES THAT WOULD BE OWED TO C B R E SHOULD A DEAL CLOSE.
AND IF WE ARE INTENDING ON DOING THIS, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, $60,000 IN FEES THAT WE WILL OWE OR FIT WHATEVER IT IS TO C B R E WHEN WE CLOSE THE DEAL.
SO THERE'S NO UPFRONT OUT-OF-POCKET COST, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON READING THE RESOLUTION IS THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A COST.
WELL, AGAIN, I, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE CONTRACT TONIGHT AND I'LL SEND THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT FROM THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THE NEGOTIATING AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT.
SO WE CAN HAVE THESE ARGUMENTS TOMORROW WITH MORE INFORMATION.
UH, TB TWO IS, UH, WHAT'S KNOWN AS A MULTIMODAL CAPITAL PROJECT AGREEMENT.
AND THIS INVOLVES THE, UH, PROJECT FOR PUTTING IN THE HAWK TRAFFIC LIGHT AT LOUGHTON AVENUE AND CENTRAL CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
UH, 81 IS A PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIM, UM, UM, OR $1,800 TWO IS ANOTHER PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIM.
UH, FOR 571, WE HAVE SEVERAL TAX CERTS.
UM, PAUL, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A T FOUR AND 85 INVOLVING VOLGAR RIDGE? YEAH, UM, I TELL MY WIFE AND I, THAT'S WHY I'M RIGHT NOW, I, MY SISTER'S, UH, UM, UM, SHE WASN'T THAT THRILLED WITH ME.
UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, UH, WITH THE BOULDER RIDGE, UM, I HAD, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS A, A ARI AND WE BOTH DIDN'T ACCEPT, UH, THE REFUND.
AND THAT WAS ABOUT $25,000 OF A LOSS TO MY FAMILY.
AND, UH, THIS IS A SECOND SIRI.
AND BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M TOWN SUPERVISOR, I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO ACCEPT THE REFUND, AND THAT'S ANOTHER LIKE $1,500, UM, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT EVEN IF I RECUSE MYSELF, PEOPLE WOULD FEEL THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT.
SO I THINK IT'S SAFER TO JUST NOT TAKE THE MONEY AND PLAY THE SAXOPHONE ON THE SIDEWALK.
WELL, AT SOME POINT THE, THERE'LL BE THE, UH, SECOND REEVALUATION, AND SO EVERYBODY WILL GET REEVALUATED BY AN INDEPENDENT COMPANY.
BUT YEAH, I JUST, IT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT.
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE SOME STREET CLOSINGS, ONE ON KEMPSTER ROAD, ANOTHER ONE IS, UH, THERE'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT EVENT BETWEEN, UH, TALK ABOUT THE C CORPS LEY, UH, LEY C CORPS, AMBULANCE CORPS IN THAT ONE OF THE AREAS THEY COVER IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT, UH, HALLOWEEN, UH, EVENT, UH, PARADE, UH, PRETTY, UH, FAIRLY CLEVER AND OTHERS ARE DOING IT.
UH, THEY'RE DOING IT ON KEMPSTER ROAD AND THEY'RE ALSO DOING IT ON
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SOUTH ROAD, WHERE INSTEAD OF HAVING THE CHILDREN GO TO THE DOORS AND KNOCK ON DOORS, UH, THEY'RE PUTTING TABLES OUT NEAR THE STREET AND THE CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO GO SOCIALLY DISTANCED, UH, DISTANCING, UH, FROM TABLE TO TABLE.SO I JUST, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, FRANCIS, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT, THAT IS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
I KNOW I'LL SPEAK, I'M A MOTHER OF A 13 YEAR OLD WHO'S VERY EXCITED STILL, AND TO HALLOWEEN, AND I WANNA THANK YOU.
SO I JUST WANNA JUST SAY, THIS ALSO IS, PLEASE JUST REMEMBER TO SOCIAL DISTANCE AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO WEAR YOUR MASK.
'CAUSE WE, WE ARE STILL IN A LIVE PANDEMIC, BUT WE, ALTHOUGH WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS CONTINUE TO HAVE THEIR FUN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS STILL VERY SAFE.
UH, GARRETT, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR CDS? YES, SURE.
UH, CD ONE IS A STANDARD RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD RECEIVING AN APPLICATION AND DECLARING, UH, LEAD AGENCY AND, UH, REFERRING THAT APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, THE APPLICATION FOR CD ONE, UH, IT PERTAINS TO NOEL WOOD COUNTRY CLUB, AND THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR A BATTERY STORAGE, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, BE AN, A FENCED IN ENCLOSURE, UH, WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND, UM, THE, THAT APPLICATION, UH, WAS REVIEWED BY TOWN STAFF AND, UH, WE HAVE IT ON FOR THIS RESOLUTION.
SO, UH, NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO PUT THAT ON AND, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S AN TRACK THAT, THAT'S OKAY.
AND, UH, THEY'RE BOTH, THEY BOTH PERTAIN TO THE, UH, SPECIALIZED SENIOR HOUSING LOCAL LAW, WHICH WAS, WAS CLOSED AT THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT CRITERIA FOR THE, UH, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, NURSING HOMES, UM, CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES.
SO CD TWO IS A DRAFT SEEKER DETERMINATION, UM, LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THAT POTENTIAL, UH, LOCAL LAW APPROVAL.
UM, AND CD THREE IS THE ACTUAL LOCAL LAW.
UM, THERE IS NO, THERE ARE NO ACTIVE PROPOSALS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE MODIFICATIONS.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE, UH, STAFF, UH, GENERATED.
IT'S A STAFF GENERATED LOCAL LAW TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND CD FOUR AND CD FIVE ALSO GO TOGETHER AND THEY ARE THE CONTINUUM OF CARE FACILITIES, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THAT, THAT NEWLY PROPOSED USE IN THE TOWN.
UM, CD FOUR IS THE SEEKER OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE POTENTIAL PASSAGE OF THAT, THAT LOCAL LAW.
UM, AND, AND THIS SEEKER IS, IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT, IT, IT, IT COVERS BOTH THE LOCAL LAW AND THE SITE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL AT THE, UH, METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB.
UM, THERE WOULD WILL BE A PROCESS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS OF BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN BOARD, UH, SHOULD THE LOCAL LAW BE PASSED.
UM, AND PROCESS-WISE, CD FIVE IS THE ACTUAL LOCAL LAW JUST FOR THE C C F.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, THESE RESOLUTIONS DO NOT ALONE, UH, SANCTION A C C F AT METROPOLIS.
THERE WILL BE A SUBSEQUENT, SUBSEQUENT PROCESS FOR THAT.
UM, BUT THIS, THESE, THESE RESOLUTIONS ARE, ARE, ARE GERMANE TO THAT LOCAL WELL, IT MOVES IT ALONE.
THEN WE HAVE, UH, SOME BUDGET TRANSFERS FROM THE CONTROLLER GOING OUT TO BED, GOING OUT TO HEAR MY GRAND GRANDSON IN THE BACKGROUND, UM, UH, GOING OUT TO BED.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME, UH, PHILANTHROPY RESOLUTIONS DEALING WITH, UM, THE, UH, OBTAINING REIMBURSEMENTS FOR FUNNY MONIES THAT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT GETTING REIMBURSED AND ALSO SOME BLOCK GRANTS FOR THE KITTY LAND PLAYGROUND OVER ON WASHINGTON AVENUE AND ALSO SOME, A PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON AT OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD.
SO, AND THEN WE HAVE, IS VICTOR ON, HE'S ON VACATION TODAY.
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I'M MY FRIENDCAN, CAN YOU SEE YOUR SCREEN OR ARE YOU ON PHONE OR WHAT ARE YOU I'M ON PHONE.
I'M TRYING TO SQUINT A LITTLE BIT HERE.
YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW YORK LEAK DETECTION, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN AND FIND OUT WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME LEAKAGE IN OUR PIPES THAT IS MISSING THE METERS BECAUSE IT'S GOING INTO THE GROUND, RIGHT.
SO THEY CHECK WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT, UH, THEY'RE VERY ACCURATE WITH THIS, AND THEY WILL DETERMINE IF WE HAVE ANY LEAKS AND THEN WE GO IN AND REPAIR THEM.
SO IS THIS AN ACTUAL INSPECTION OF THE PIPES OR DO THEY DO AN ANALYSIS OF HOW MUCH IS SHOWING UP ON EACH OF OUR METERS VERSUS WHAT'S COMING THROUGH THE MASTER METER AND SEEING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS? THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT THEY FIND THEY MOVE ON.
SO I ASKED A COMPLEX QUESTION, WHICH I HAD THE, THE LEAKS THEMSELVES AND I ALSO HAD THE METER.
SO DID THEY DO THE TESTING, THE METER, NOT TESTING, BUT TAKING A MEASUREMENT OF THE MASTER METER OF THE WATER COMING INTO THE TOWN, AND THEN HOW MUCH IS SHOWING UP ON METERS, UH, IN INDIVIDUAL HOMES? IS THAT THE FIRST STEP? AND THEN THEY WILL GO AND SEE IF THEY CAN FIND THE SOURCE OF THE LEAK? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
IS THAT THE WAY IT WORKS? OKAY.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE DEALS WITH, UH, MORE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, HIRING WATER AND KAREN TO DO A, UH, RISK AND RESILIENCE, UH, ASSESSMENT AND UPGRADE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN.
UH, WE YEARS AGO DEVELOPED AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
AND THE LAST ONE FOR P D W DEALS WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH, UH, ROTIS FINANCIAL CONSULTING TO PROVIDE AS NEEDED FINANCIAL SERVICE CONSULTING TO THE WATER DISTRICT.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WILL HAVE, UH, IS WHO IS AUDITING THESE BILLS? WHERE DO THEY GO? DO THEY GO TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT? I KNOW AT SOME POINT THEY MAKE IT TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, BUT WHERE IS THE, WHERE IS THE AUDITING THAT'S GOING IN INVOLVED IN THESE BILLS, WHICH COME UP PERIODICALLY.
NOW WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE, UH, SESSION.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING, UH, PERSONNEL ISSUES AND BUDGET ISSUES, UM, UH, WITH THE POLICE AND UM, WITH, UH, THE COURTS.
RIGHT? SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET ISSUES ARE EXECUTIVE SESSION, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE RELATED TO THE BUDGET, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO WE SHOULD, UH, NOW GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION SECOND.
AND WE'RE NOT COMING BACK TONIGHT.
AND PAUL, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOMETIMES, UH, MEMBERS OF THE VIEWING PUBLIC ARE USED THIS PUBLIC PORTION OF THE BUDGET.
WILL THAT BE FORTHCOMING IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET AFTER YOU INITIALLY OKAY.
SO SHOULD WE GO RIGHT INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS? UH, YEAH, JUST ABOUT, WE'RE GONNA STOP RECORDING.