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WELL, GOOD EVENING, UM,[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, October 21, 2020 – 5:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 8:00 p.m. ]
TO THE OCTOBER 21ST, 2020 PLANNING BOARD MEETING.UH, WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL.
UH, ASK DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT TO CALL THE ROLE CHAIRPERSON.
THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE MINUTES OF, UM, OCTOBER 7TH.
UM, I HAVE, UH, TWO COMMENTS REGARDING THE MINUTES.
THE FIRST IS ON PAGE SEVEN, UH, THIRD PARAGRAPH DOWN.
UH, FOURTH LINE, UH, SHOULD BE, UH, SSS MRS. FROM ASSESS TO BE A SS THERE.
SERVICES OF A PROFESSIONAL TO REVIEW AND ASSESS THE TREAT.
AND THEN, UH, THING, I, I JUST WANT, I'M ON PAGE NINE, PARAGRAPH 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 LINES DOWN.
I JUST WANT TO, UH, CLARIFY MY COMMENT AND, UH, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO IT TO READ AFTER THE WORD INCREASE TO INSERT TO THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DENSITY PERMITTED UNDER THE C F C C F LAW, SO THAT THAT IS, UH, THAT WAS, UH, WHAT MY COMMENT WAS.
AND I WAS NOT ADVOCATING THAT YOU COULD JUST INCREASE YOUR DENSITY REGARDLESS OF THE LAW.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
WE'VE GOT, I HAD ONE THING I'D LIKE TO, UM, ADD ON PAGE TWO UNDER D, THE PLANNING BOARD PROCEDURES.
UM, I WOULD SAY, I GUESS AT THE END OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH WHERE IT SAYS THE CHAIRPERSON, SIMON REVIEWED SEVERAL ACTIONS.
I, I KNOW WE HAD THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE PRESENT THEN HAD A DISCUSSION, AND WE ALL SEEM GENERALLY IN FAVOR.
I WOULD JUST ADD A LINE, SOMETHING LIKE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE STILL PRESENT, VOICED OVERALL SUPPORT FOR THE CHANGE.
SOMETHING TO GO ON THE RECORD THAT, UM, WE DISCUSSED AND THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED.
UH, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA, UH, IS, UH, CASE P B 14 DASH 12 SOLANO SUBDIVISION.
UH, UM, THIS WAS THE APPLICATION THAT HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL, UM, UH, REVISIONS AND, AND CHANGE OF O OWNERSHIP.
AND I REQUESTED THAT A REPRESENTATIVE COME IN AND JUST TO BRING US UP TO DATE OF WHERE WE ARE, WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS SUBDIVISION, UH, SUBDIVISION.
SO IF WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PB 1112 SUBDIVISION, PLEASE, UM, UH, UH, DEPUTY, UH, UM, SMITH, PLEASE, UH, HAVE THEM ENTER THE, THE CONFERENCE.
SO WE HAVE MR. PETER SIA HERE ON BEHALF OF, UH, THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, MR. SIA, IF YOU CAN JUST KINDA UPDATE THE BOARD ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY AND, UM,
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YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S AT CURRENTLY.I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN ORDER FOR THE BOARD TO, UM, ENTERTAIN A FURTHER EXTENSION OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
AND, UH, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I REPRESENT, UH, THE SOLANO FAMILY, THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THAT LOT.
AND, UM, AS, AS YOU KNOW, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL WAS, UH, ISSUED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2017.
AND, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE, UH, ON WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT ALSO, I, I, IT MAY BE HELPFUL IF I JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S TRANSPIRED, UH, PRIOR TO THIS TIME.
SO IF YOU, UH, JUST, UH, UH, BEAR WITH ME FOR A FEW MOMENTS, UH, BACKGROUND, BACKGROUND, UH, ON THAT, AND THEN I'LL, UH, BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND, UH, ON, UH, ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT.
UM, THE, UH, SUBDIVISION, THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, AS I MENTIONED, WAS ISSUED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2017.
ANTONIO SOLANO, ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS OF THE LOT, UH, WAS ACTUALLY DIAGNOSED, UH, WITH CANCER SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
SO, UM, HE PASSED AWAY AT THE END OF, UH, 2018.
SO, UM, DUE TO THAT ISSUE, NOT MUCH WAS GOING ON WITH THE LOT, QUITE HONESTLY.
UH, THEY HAD IT LISTED FOR SALE.
UH, THEIR INTENTION AT THAT POINT WAS NOT TO BUILD IT OR DEVELOP IT THEMSELVES.
UM, SO BETWEEN THE HEALTH ISSUE AND THEN, UH, THE MARKET NOT BEING QUITE VERY STRONG, UM, NOT MUCH HAD HAPPENED.
NOW, AFTER HE PASSED AWAY, THE, UH, THE FAMILY REDUCED THE PRICE SUBSTANTIALLY TO GET MORE INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND EVENTUALLY THEY DID RECEIVE SEVERAL OFFERS.
SOME OF THEM WERE OFFERS THAT WERE NOT VERY SERIOUS.
UM, BUT EVENTUALLY THEY DID GET A, WHAT THEY BELIEVED TO BE A SOLID OFFER FROM AN INDIVIDUAL.
UH, AND A CONTRACT WAS SIGNED, UH, AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
NOW, IN THE MEANTIME, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SEVERAL EXTENSIONS THAT WERE, UH, THAT WERE, UH, GRANTED BY THIS BOARD.
SO, UH, THAT WAS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
UH, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SIGNED THE CONTRACT, UM, ESSENTIALLY WAS BUYING IT COMPLETELY AS IS IN THE SENSE THAT THAT PARTICULAR PURCHASER WAS GOING TO BASICALLY MOVE FORWARD AND, UH, INCUR ALL COSTS FOR, UH, THE SUBDIVISION OR THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVALS, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RECREATION FEES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TRANSACTION, UH, DID NOT PROCEED.
UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL REASONS.
UM, SHORTLY AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED, UH, THE BUYER APPARENTLY HAD SOME ECONOMIC ISSUES, UH, WITH, UH, COVID THE SLOWDOWN AND ALL THAT.
AND THAT CONTRACT, UH, DID NOT MOVE FORWARD AND WAS, UM, UH, BASICALLY UNDONE AT THAT POINT.
SO THE PROPERTY, UH, IS NOT IN CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.
UH, IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REMARKETED, UH, PERHAPS EVEN AT A, UH, SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY LOWER PRICE TO, UH, TRACK SOME ADDITIONAL INTEREST.
BUT, UH, WITH THAT AS THE BACKGROUND ON, UH, A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT'S TRANSPIRED IN THE PAST, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, UM, IS, IS THE FOLLOWING.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, UH, THE, THE OWNERS OF THE LOT APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN EXTENSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO UP TILL NOW.
UM, THE, THE OWNER DOES NOT WANT TO CONTINUALLY COME BACK TO THIS BOARD ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS.
UM, THEIR ISSUES, SO TO SPEAK, SHOULD NOT BE THE BOARD'S ISSUES.
SO WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE MEANTIME IS, IS THAT, UM, THE OWNERS HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO COM CONTINUE WITH THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
UH, THE NEXT IMMEDIATE STEP, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, WOULD BE TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH AND HAVE THEM SIGN OFF ON THE, UH, UH, SUBDIVISION PLAT.
UM, PAPERS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED FROM THE SURVEYOR.
UM, THE APPLICATION FOR THE COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING, UH, SUBMITTED AND COMPLETED.
SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I WOULD BELIEVE WOULD HAPPEN FAIRLY SOON IS THE PAPERS TO THE BOARD OF HEALTH, UH, WOULD BE SUBMITTED, AND THE SOLANO FAMILY, RATHER THAN WAITING ON A POTENTIAL PURCHASER, WOULD BE THE ONES TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS.
SO I HAVE SPOKEN DIRECTLY WITH THE SURVEYOR.
I'VE ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO AN IN AN INDIVIDUAL AT THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH ABOUT, UH, THE PAPERS THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED HOPEFULLY VERY SOON.
SO I, I BELIEVE THAT ONCE THAT PAPERWORK IS IN, AT LEAST, THERE WILL BE SOME FORWARD PROGRESS ON COMPLETING, UH, THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE, AGAIN, GETTING THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH, UH, TO
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ISSUE, TO REVIEW THE PAPERWORK, THE ENGINEERING PLANS SIGN OFF, AND THEN, UM, THE APPLICANT COULD CONTINUE WITH THIS BOARD, UH, KNOWING THAT, UH, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, CONCRETE PROGRESS AT THAT POINT.UM, IF, WELL, IT'S, IT'S VERY GOOD THAT YOU'VE TAKEN THE STEPS TO SUBMIT, UH, MAKE A FORMAL SUBMISSION TO WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH.
IT HAS BEEN, UM, UH, THE CUSTOM OF THIS BOARD THAT IF YOU SUBMIT THE FORMAL APPLICATION TO WESTCHESTER COUNTY, AND THEN IF THE COUNTY IS THE WHOLE UP, WE WOULD TRADITIONALLY JUST SIGN OFF ON EXTENSION.
SO THE CRITICAL THING FOR YOU TO DO NOW IS TO HAVE THOSE PAPERS SUBMITTED, YOU SEE, AND, AND THAT WOULD PUT YOU IN A, A GOOD POSITION WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY KEY TO DO THAT.
UM, UH, UM, YEAH, MR. SIMON, I'M SORRY, UH, TO INTERRUPT.
UH, THE AUDIO WAS FADING IN AND OUT.
I COULDN'T QUITE, UH, HEAR YOU.
WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING THE KEY, IF THE, THE KEY THING FOR YOU TO DO, IF IT IS A DECISION OF THIS BOARD TO GRANT THE 90 DAY EXTENSION, AND DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME YOU FILE WITH THE WESTCHESTER DEPARTMENT OF, YOU KNOW, BOARD OF HEALTH, AND IF THEY ARE, UH, DELAYED IN GETTING BACK TO YOU IN 90 DAYS, IT HAS BEEN THE CUSTOM OF THIS BOARD THAT ONCE AN APPLICANT FILE WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY IS THE HOLD UP, THEN WE GENERALLY WILL GIVE ANOTHER EXTENSION.
SO REALLY THE KEY FOR YOU TO, TO DO NOW, IF THIS BOARD GRANT, THIS EXTENSION IS TO GET EVERYTHING INTO WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND, UH, UM, SO, UH, UH, YOUR SUBDIVISION CAN GO FORWARD.
UH, I DID UNDERSTAND, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR. NERIA.
DO YOU, WOULD YOU HAVE A PROJECTED TIMEFRAME ON, ON WHEN THIS MIGHT BE SUBMITTED? THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE, UM, THIS MOST RECENT EXTENSION, YOU KNOW, HAS LAPSED.
UM, IT LAPSED ON, ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, AND, AND YOU'RE SEEKING, YOU KNOW, A RETROACTIVE 90 DAY EXTENSION, WHICH WOULD CARRY YOU TO APPROXIMATELY DECEMBER 10TH.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU THINK THAT THAT APPLICATION WILL BE MADE TO THE COUNTY PRIOR TO DECEMBER 10TH? UH, YES.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, I, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO, UM, THE PARTY AT WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING AND PROCESSING THESE, UH, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE SURVEYOR WHO MAY NEED TO MAKE ONE CHANGE TO, UH, SOME APPLICATION PAPERS THAT HE'S FILLED OUT.
BUT THE, THE INTENTION IS TO SUBMIT THIS, UH, SHORTLY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WELL, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO I, I, I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT, WITH HAVING THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION BE SUBMITTED.
NOW, IF, IF THE BOARD WERE, UH, UH, WILLING TO GRANT THE EXTENSION, UH, MR. SCHMIDT, I, I, I WOULD CC YOU OR, UH, OR JUST GIVE YOU A NOTE OR AN EMAIL THAT IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED ON THIS DATE, AND THEN WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO PROCESS.
I, I, AGAIN, I I, THE INTENTION IS NOT TO COME BACK TO YOU, UM, 89 DAYS FROM NOW TO SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
UH, THAT I DON'T WANNA HAVE HAPPEN.
REALISTICALLY, THOUGH, I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY SHORT EXTENSION BECAUSE OF THE RETROACTIVE PART OF IT, AND YOU'RE GONNA BE BACK HERE FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION.
IS THERE A REASON WE CAN'T GIVE HIM MORE THAN 90 DAYS NOW RATHER THAN BE BACK HERE? ALMOST GUARANTEED.
BECAUSE WESTCHESTER, DO YOU REALLY THINK WESTCHESTER CAN TURN THIS AROUND BY DECEMBER 10TH? THAT'S, THAT'S A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
IT'S HOLIDAY SEASON, IT'S COVID.
I MEAN, I'M JUST BEING REALISTIC.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GET TURNED AROUND IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
UH, I, I, I DON'T, AND I THINK, UH, 180 DAYS IS PROBABLY, UM, A BETTER, EVEN ONE 20, DAVID, IF WE DON'T WANNA DO 180, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO ONE 20 IF YOU WANT SOMETHING.
90 IS JUST SILLY AT THIS POINT.
ONE 20 WOULD GET US TO THE FIRST WEEK IN JANUARY OR SO.
DO WE HAVE A MEETING IN JANUARY? AARON, HOW LONG HAS IT TYPICALLY TAKEN?
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I KNOW THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME IN THE PAST.HOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG THE TURNAROUND IS ON AVERAGE? I WOULD SAY FOR THE SIMPLER APPLICATIONS, IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, AROUND 30 DAYS.
SO ONE 20, I THINK HUGH, THE, I THINK MAJOR CONCERN THAT WALTER HAS IS A GOOD FATE, UH, PROGRESS OF THE APPLICATION.
I DON'T THINK, AND I THINK IF IT IS A, AND THIS IS WHAT THE NINTH EXTENSION, SO WHEN WAS THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS APPROVED? UH, THREE YEARS AGO, SEPTEMBER, 2017.
SO I THINK THE IDEA IS WHAT WALTER AND I AGREE, WE ARE TO SEE SOME GOOD FAITH, UH, PROGRESS ON PART OF APPLICANTS.
SO 90 DAYS OR 120 DAYS DOESN'T MATTER, BUT WE NEED TO SEE SOME GOOD FAITH, UH, WORK FROM THE APPLICANT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WELL, AND WE NEED TO SEE THAT.
I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T WANNA RUN UP ANYBODY'S BILL FOR HAVING TO COME BACK IN HERE UNNECESSARILY.
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ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TO SEND A NOTE AND, AND SAY THAT IT IS IN, UH, IT, WE HAVE PROOF THAT IT WAS FILED, AND TRADITIONALLY WE AUTOMATICALLY EXTEND.
SO, SO I SEE WHETHER IT'S 90 DAYS OR, OR 120 DAYS, IF IT'S FILED, I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT COMING BACK.
I THINK A LETTER WOULD SURVIVE.
SO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE TREATED THIS IN THE PAST, AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT APPLY THOSE SAME STANDARDS TO THIS APPLICATION.
SO THE KEY IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO FILE, AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, A LETTER IS, IS FINE.
SO I, UM, IT, IT MATTERS NOT TO ME, WHETHER IT'S 90 DAYS OR 120 DAYS, PROBABLY 120 DAYS BECAUSE, UH, THE A, UH, THE APPLICANT LOST, UM, A WHOLE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A, A, A MOTION TO GRANT 120 DAY EXTENSION WITH THE DECLARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT WILL FILE WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, OH, NOW HERE WE, THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE, EXACTLY WHAT I TALKED ABOUT.
UH, UH, THEY HAVE THE APPLICATION FILED WITH WESTCHESTER BOARD OF HEALTH, AND THEY'RE WA WAITING ON WESTCHESTER BOARD OF HEALTH.
AND TRADITIONALLY, LIKE I JUST SAID, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE TRADITIONALLY WILL JUST GIVE IT APPROVAL BECAUSE THE HOLDUP IS BY ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY.
SO I, I, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE EXTEND, UH, UH, A 90, UH, DAY, UH, APPROVAL ON PB 1621, SECOND CHAIRPERSON AND SIMON CHAIRPERSON.
AND SIMON, IF I MAY, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED IN A LETTER 180 DAYS, I WOULD JUST LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING 180 DAYS THROUGH JUNE 1ST, 2021.
THERE'S ANY REASON WHY THEY WEREN'T SO LONG? UH, I, I WOULD JUST THINK THAT, UM, THEY PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED AND RECEIVED A 180 DAY, IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE BOARD.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.
IF YOU PREFER TO GRANT A 90 DAY, OR, WELL, WELL, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION UNLESS THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS POINT.
DO WE KNOW WHY THEY WANT THE EXTRA NINE 90 DAYS? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE HOLDING THEM UP BESIDES THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? YOUR LETTER ONLY SAYS, UM, THAT IT'S SUBMITTED.
ALL COMMENTS FROM D O H HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED.
WE ARE UNCERTAIN WHETHER THE PLATT WILL BE REQUIRED, WILL BE SIGNED BY D O H AND RESUBMITTED TO THE PLAN FOR CONSIDERATION OF FINAL APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION OF THE APPROVAL.
SO THE ANSWER IS, IS, IS NO, WE DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROB PROBLEM.
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THEY'RE, THEY'D LIKE TO GO FASTER THAN SLOWER, SO I SEE NO REASON NOT TO EXTEND THEM.I THINK THEY'RE JUST GIVING THEMSELVES SOME WIGGLE ROOM.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, UH, SUGGESTION ON THIS DISCUSSION? SO SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, THEN I'LL MOVE THAT WE, THAT WE, IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THEIR SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
I MOVE THAT WE EXTEND THEIR, UH, SUB SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR A PERIOD OF 180 DAYS.
SECOND, SECOND PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION WHO? PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
AND THEN MONA, ON THE SECOND, SHE BEAT OUT TOM BY A FRACTION OF A SECOND.
UH, UM, UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE, THE AGENDA IS A REFERRAL, UH, P TB 2 0 9.
THAT'S OUR PLANNING BOARD 2018 EAGLE ENERGY STORAGE IS, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN CHAIRPERSON.
I'M, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT AS PER THE AGENDA, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH ZERO FOUR OH, I'M SORRY.
AND THAT'S, UH, PB 2004 CASAL.
DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UH, FOR THIS? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? UH, GOOD EVENING.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE FIRM OF CU AND FADER, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANTS TONIGHT.
UM, FOLLOWING OUR APPEARANCE BEFORE YOU LAST SESSION, THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT, UH, YOU HAD ASKED US TO GET BACK TO YOU ON.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE NARROW SIDE ON SW RIVER ROAD AT, UH, 34 DASH 40 AND 57 ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, WE, WE PROVIDED TO YOU JUST TODAY AN ENGINEER CERTIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THE STABILITY OF THE, UM, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THE, THE ABILITY OF THE, UM, SORRY, STABILITY OF THE ROCK, UH, WALL, THAT, THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE, UH, STACKING AREA.
AND WE PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATED PLANS, UH, A WEEK, A FEW WEEKS AGO, UM, ADDRESSING OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU'D RAISED.
UM, I GUESS WE'RE HERE PRIMARILY TO AN ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH REGARDING, REGARDING THOSE SUBMISSIONS AND, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.
I WANTED TO, I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN FOR ONE MOMENT.
UH, I REACHED OUT TO MR. MERE, UM, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, AND, UM, HE HAS ASKED IF I COULD PO UH, SHARE THE SCREEN TO SHOW THE REVISED PLAN SO THAT IT CAN BE WALKED THROUGH OKAY.
TO SEE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO JUST BEAR WITH ME FIRST FOR A MOMENT.
I CAN, AND WHILE I'M PULLING THIS UP, I JUST WANTED TO INFORM THE BOARD THAT, UM, FOLLOWING THIS DISCUSSION, THE BOARD MAY BE IN A POSITION TO CONSIDER A SECRET DETERMINATION.
UM, THE PROJECT'S PRELIMINARILY BEEN CLASSIFIED AS AN UNLISTED ACTION.
A DRAFT NEGATIVE DECLARATION WAS PROVIDED, AND IF THE BOARD MOVES FORWARD WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD ON THE VARIANCES REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
SO I'M SHARING THE SCREEN NOW, AND, UM, I CAN HIGHLIGHT IT FOR THE APPLICANT SINCE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE REVISED PLAN.
UM, A COUPLE OF CHANGES, AND, AND PLEASE POINT OUT MR. NALL, IF I'VE MISSED ANY, BUT ONE, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A GUIDE RAIL UP ALONG THE RAMP TO THE REAR OF THE NORTHLY BUILDING THAT'S BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLAN NOW, AND THERE'S A DETAIL FOR IT UP IN THIS CORNER HERE.
UM, FURTHER AT THE REQUEST OF MR. CANNING, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, WIDENED YES, THE SOUTHERLY
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GATE, I CAN HIGHLIGHT IT 32 FEET WIDE FROM 28.I DID REVIEW THIS WITH MR. MR. CANNING, AND HE IS SATISFIED THAT IT, UH, ADDRESSES HIS COMMENTS.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, MR. NOLL, THAT I SHOULD BE POINTING OUT HERE? YES, GO AHEAD, JONATHAN.
UM, SO AS FAR AS THE DRAWINGS, THOSE ARE OF THE CHANGES.
AND THEN, UM, MR. NOLL WAS, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE ROCK FACE WALL AND THE STABILITY OF IT.
UM, WE SENT THE ENGINEERED LETTER, UH, EARLIER TODAY, JUST BASICALLY STATING THAT IT'S CURRENTLY FABLE AND WHEN THE MATERIALS MOVE, IF THERE'S CRACKS AND IT HAS TO BE FURTHER ADDRESSED, WHETHER IT'S A ROCK ANCHOR OR, UM, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE, THAT'S, UH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DO.
AND IF IT NEED, IF IT REQUIRES A SUBMISSION, WE WILL, UM, OF COURSE, UM, PROVIDE THAT AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THAT WAS FORWARDED BY MATT BRITTON, UH, LATE THIS AFTERNOON UPON RECEIPT.
IF ANYONE HASN'T SEEN IT, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, RECITE IT, BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, IT, IT'S SATISFACTORY, AT LEAST FROM STAFF'S STANDPOINT.
AND IF THE BOARD AT A FUTURE POINT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DECISION ON THIS, WE CAN CERTAINLY INCORPORATE THIS LANGUAGE INTO A CONDITION.
THERE'S ONE, UH, UM, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER.
THERE'S ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS ADDED TO THE CHART ON THE EXISTING BUILDING.
THE, THE DOOR AND, AND STAIRCASE WAS NOT ON THE ORIGINAL DRAWING THAT WAS ADDED.
WE WERE ASKED TO CLARIFY THAT.
I THINK WE HAD A PATH BUT DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT THE DOOR.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS ADDED IN.
ONE OF THE, UH, UH, CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT THE VARIANCES THAT YOU'RE SEEKING? YES.
SO, CHAIRPERSON SIMON, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, UM, SHARE SCREEN ON THOSE IF YOU'D LIKE, IF THAT HELPS.
BECAUSE IF WE, UH, UM, UH, MOVE FORWARD AND IN A POSITION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, THE BOARD TO BE AWARE OF WHAT, WHICH VARIANCE WHERE WE ARE, UM, DISCUSSING, YES, THERE ARE MULTIPLE VARIANCES ALL RELATING TO THE FACT THAT THE SITE IS EXTREMELY NARROW AND THE BUILDINGS, UH, CANNOT BE SEPARATED FROM ANOTHER OR FROM THE PARKING AREAS NEAR THEM.
SO SECTION 2 85, 38 E REQUESTS A 13 SPACE PARKING VARIANCE WHERE 21 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND EIGHT SPACES ARE PROPOSED.
RECOGNIZING, HOWEVER, THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARKING SPACES, UM, STRIPED, I KNOW THAT, UM, IT WA IT WAS INDICATED THAT THERE WAS AN EARLIER SITE PLAN AT ONE POINT THAT THAT HAD SHOWN, UM, PARKING REQUIRED.
SO I THINK THE BEST THING IS TO JUST REFER TO THE 13 SPACE VARIANCE, WHERE 21 SPACES ARE ACQUIRED AND EIGHT ARE PROPOSED.
I WOULD NOTE THAT, UM, KIMLEY HORN'S, UH, MEMORANDUM TO THE, TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND TO THE ZONING BOARD INDICATES THAT THAT, THAT FOR THIS TYPE OF RETAIL USE, WHICH IS REALLY SOMEWHERE CLOSER TO A WHOLESALE THAN A PEOPLE STOPPING AND SHOPPING AND WALKING AROUND INSIDE A STORE, UM, A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS SIZE, UH, SUPPLY YARD WOULD BE FIVE PARKING SPACES WHERE WE HAVE EIGHT.
SO THAT, THAT DOESN'T DIMINISH THE ACTUAL VARIANCE, BUT IT PUTS IN CONTEXT THE FACT THAT, UM, YOUR, THE TOWN'S, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND, UH, PLANNING CONSULTANT ON THAT ISSUE SAYS THAT, UM, FIVE PARKING SPACES WOULD BE WHAT THE I T E WOULD TYPICALLY REQUIRE.
WE'RE ALSO, WE ALSO NEED A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 2 85, 32 B FIVE A, WHICH, UH, UH, REQUESTS A VARIANCE FROM THE 25 FOOT MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM DETACHED ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OR OFF STREET PARKING AREAS TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO PREVIOUSLY.
YOU CAN'T PUT THE PARKING ON THIS SITE IN A WAY WHERE TRUCKS CAN DRIVE THROUGH AND NOT HAVE THEM WITHIN LESS THAN 25
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FEET OF, UM, OF THE BUILDINGS.THEY, THEY NEED TO BE PROXIMATE.
AND THERE, THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, AS YOU KNOW, ONE ON THE SOUTHERN AREA, THE PRIOR GAS STATION BUILDING, AND ONE ON THE NORTH AREA, WHICH IS THE, UM, THE, THE BUILDING THAT SERVED SOME OVER, UM, THE SUPPLY YARD.
WE ALSO WERE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 2 85, 32, A THREE B FROM THE 25 FOOT SETBACK REQUIRED BETWEEN OUTDOOR STORAGE AND ANY LOT LINE.
UM, WE, WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO PROVIDE THAT 25 FOOT SEPARATION AGAIN WITHOUT HAVING, UM, WITHOUT LOSING THE ABILITY FOR TRUCKS TO DRIVE THROUGH AND MAKE DELIVERIES OR CARS TO COME IN AND PARK.
UM, WE'RE WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FROM THAT SAME SECTION FOR, UM, I'M SORRY, FROM 22 85, 32, A THREE B FROM 25 FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN OUTDOOR STORAGE AND, AND A LOT LINE.
AND ALSO, UM, 22 85, 32 A THREE B REQUESTING A 10.41 FOOT VARIANCE FROM A 25 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIRED BETWEEN OUTDOOR STORAGE AND ANY LOT LINE WHERE A SETBACK OF 14.59 FEET IS PROPOSED.
AND WE'RE, UM, ASKING FOR A, A VARIANCE FROM 2 85, 32 A THREE B REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM THE SIX FOOT STORAGE SCREENING REQUIRED BETWEEN OUTDOOR STORAGE AND ANY LOT LINE WHERE NONE IS PROPOSED.
INSTEAD, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS INSTALLING A TWO FOOT WALL WITH A WROUGHT IRON, UH, FENCE HEARING FENCE.
IT'S ACTUALLY ALUMINUM, UH, CONTINUING THE CURRENT APPEARANCE OF THE TWO FOOT WALL FENCE ON THE NORTHERLY LOT.
AND IN ADDITION, WE'RE SEEKING, AS WE MENTIONED, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCREENING, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FROM NEW YORK STATE D O T PERMISSION TO IMPROVE THE SIDEWALK TO, UM, ENHANCE ACCESS TO, UH, TO THE BUS DEPOT BUS STOP, I'M SORRY, THAT'S FURTHER SOUTH, UH, THAN THE SITE, I BELIEVE THAT SUMMARIZES THE VARIANCES.
AND AARON HAS PUT UP, UM, THE LISTING ALSO ON THE BOARD.
UM, UH, MATT, DID YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE TAKE CHAIR? SO, CHAIRPERSON SIMON, UM, MATT DID, AND HE DID PROVIDE THAT TO ME.
I, I, YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
SO THE, UH, THE BOARD CAN SEE, UH, GET A PERSPECTIVE OF THE NARROWNESS OF THE SITE AND THE HEIGHT OF THE, OF THE, THE HILL AND BACK OF THE SITE THAT IT IS REALLY SEPARATED FROM, UH, THE HOMES IN THE BACK.
SO BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY STEEP HILL, I WOULD GUESS IT'S AT LEAST 40 FEET HIGH, UH, WHERE HOMES ARE IN THE BACK.
SO, UH, THE ISSUE OF A BACKYARD SETBACK IN THIS CASE IS NOT AS CRITICAL BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE, OF THE VEGETATION ON THE HILL AND BACK OF IT.
SO I, I THINK THAT, UH, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING AND DIDN'T, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD PICTURES OF THE SITE ITSELF TO INDICATE HOW NARROW THE SITE IS.
WE, WE INCLUDED THOSE IN THE APPLICATION.
AND, AND THOSE WERE ALSO PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO THE, SO THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, HAVE AN IDEA OF THE NARROWNESS OF, OF THE SITE.
UH, UM, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARD, REGARD, SIMON? YES.
I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE SITE TODAY FOR A VISIT, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I FIND IT REMARKABLE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS THERE THE WAY THESE HUGE TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCKS ARE ABLE TO MANEUVER IN THIS EXTRAORDINARILY NARROW, UM, BUSINESS SPACE.
AND I THINK THAT THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED US WITH WILL BE A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT TO THIS BUSINESS, AND ALSO AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEHIND THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY VISUALIZE.
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THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CLEAN UP AND PROVIDE A SOMEWHAT BETTER, UM, VIEW FOR THEM, UH, FOR WHAT THEY CAN SEE BACK THERE BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO ONCE THEY MAKE THESE, UM, CHANGES TO THE SITE WITH WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING.WE HAD A, A LONG CONVERSATION WITH THEM WITH WHAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO ONCE THEY MAKE THESE CHANGES.
SO I, I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PLAN, QUITE FRANKLY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? YEAH, I THINK I HAVE TWO COMMENTS, WALTER.
ONE IS, UH, AND I VISITED THE SITE ALSO.
I KIND OF, UH, WENT A WHILE BACK.
UH, AND I AGREE THAT WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING IS IMPROVEMENTS TO WHAT IS THERE, BUT THERE IS A, THE, THE STEEP HILL BEHIND THE SITE, AND I DON'T SEE ANY KIND OF, UH, UH, RETAINING WALL SO THAT IF THERE IS A, UH, UH, MUDSLIDES OR SOME EROSION, SO THAT WOULD NOT KIND OF, UH, CREATE A PROBLEM, UH, TO, TO, TO THE SITE THAT THEY HAVE AND ALSO TO THE HOUSES IN THE BACK.
SO, UH, IT IS, IS, IS THE APPLICANTS WILL TELL US THAT.
WAS THERE ANY EXPERIENCE OF, SO, SO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT SLOPE IS ALL SOLID LEAD ROCK, SOLID ROCK THAT'S BEEN THERE PROBABLY A HUNDRED YEARS LIKE THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING ANYWHERE.
BUT YOU HAVE THE TREES THAT ARE IN
THOSE TREES HELP STABILIZE THE WHOLE SYSTEM UP THERE TOO.
THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S LIKE, LIKE A SLOPE DECK AWAY.
IT'S LIKE A, IT'S THE STEEPEST SLOPE, UH, GRADUAL SLOPE.
AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY PROBLEM OF ANY, UH, SORT OF EROSIONS AND NEVER, NEVER.
NO, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TREES IN IT.
THE ENGINEER WAS THERE WHEN I WAS THERE, CORRECT.
AND I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE ENGINEER AT THE TIME ABOUT THE SAME THING.
AND A SORT AND THE SECOND, SORRY, THE ENGINEERS, SORRY, GO AHEAD, ETTE.
OKAY, SO SECOND COMMENT IS THAT, UH, UH, THE, THE FANS THAT THEY ARE, YOU ARE PROPOSING IT, UH, IS IT A SORT OF A CHAIN LINK FANS, OR IT'S A SORT OF A LITTLE BIT BETTER LOOKING FENCE SINCE YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY? THE FENCE THAT I'M GONNA PUT IN FRONT OF THE STORE ALONG THE ROADWAY IS GONNA BE A NICE DECORATIVE ORNAMENTAL FENCE.
IT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY NICE, REALLY SHARP.
REMEMBER, I'M TRYING TO MAKE MY, MY, UH, MY SPACE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO, TO THE PUBLIC, NOT LESS ATTRACTIVE.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CHEAP CHAIN LINK FENCE.
AND, UH, THE FENCE ON TOP OF THE, THE ROCK WALL IS GONNA BE LIKE A GUARDRAIL, LIKE THEY HAVE LIKE, ON A HIGHWAY, UM, WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IT'LL LOOK NICE AND IT'LL SERVE ITS PURPOSE.
IT'S GONNA BE A STEEL OR ALUMINUM PICKET FENCE.
UM, THAT'S BASICALLY GONNA MATCH THE, THE ONE EXISTING IN FRONT OF THE MAIN STORE THAT'S ALREADY THERE NOW.
SO, UM, IF JUST VISUALLY, IF YOU WANNA, UM, I THINK THERE'S PICTURES OF THAT.
UM, IT'S GONNA MATCH THE FENCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
SO, SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A NICE LOOKING FENCE.
SO THAT WILL BE IMPROVEMENT SINCE YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF IT OR, OR THE SPACE TO REALLY PROTECT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? UH, IF NOT, UM, YOU HAVE A, UM, UH, THE REPORT, UH, DRAFT, UH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS, UH, UH, UNLISTED ACTION, AND YOU HAVE A, A, A DRAFT OF, UH, N DECK, UH, WHICH HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? UH, IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A, A MOTION TO CLASSIFY THIS AS A UNDERSTOOD ACTION.
UM, MOVE BY TOM, SECOND BY, CORRECT IS UNLISTED ACTION.
AND THEN, UH, A MOTION TO DECLARE THIS A, A NICK DECK BEFORE YOU, I JUST WANT YOU TO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL A VOTE ON THE, THE MOTION FOR AN
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UNLISTED ACTION, PLEASE.UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE DRAFT NEG DECK, A PROPOSAL TO, UH, APPROVE THE DRAFT NEG DECK.
NOW, UH, THEY HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD FOR, UM, FOR VARIANCE, AND WE CAN TRADITIONALLY, WE CAN MAKE IT, UH, A NEGATIVE, UH, NEGATIVE, NEUTRAL, OR POSITIVE, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
I WOULD, I PROPOSE THAT CONSIDERING, UH, THE DIFFICULTY OF THAT SITE, IT BECOMES A, A MONUMENTAL CHALLENGE TO IMPROVE THAT SITE WITHOUT A VARIANCE.
AND I THINK, UH, THE APPLICANT HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN TRYING TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT IN SPITE OF THE RESTRICTION OF THE VARIANCE.
SO I WILL AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A PROPOSAL TO RECOMMEND A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, VARIANCES AS YOUR, UH, YOUR PROPOSAL THAT THEY'D BE POSITIVE FOR ALL THE, UH, VARIANCES.
I THINK THAT'S A SIMPLE, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, DAVE.
I THINK THEY'RE ALL INTEGRAL TO THE, TO THE PLAN AT THIS POINT.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE THEM ALL TOGETHER.
YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE NEED SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION SITE.
IF YOU WERE THERE, HUGH, IT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, A LITTLE NARROW STRIP.
SO SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION, THEN,
WE'D MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING, TO THE, UH, TO THE ZONING BOARD ON ALL VARIANCES.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, JOHAN? UH, IT'S TOM HAY.
IT WAS YOU AND THEN TOM ON THE SECOND.
TOM AND JOHAN SOUNDED A LOT ALIKE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK TO YOU.
OKAY, NOW THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, A REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD, PP 2 0 0 9, WHICH IS THE PB 2018.
AND AS I WERE BEGINNING TO STATE EARLIER, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE SITE APPROVAL, AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, UH, UH, THE SPECIAL PERMIT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST PROCESS, GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SITE, UH, UH, UM, EVALUATION, AND THEN WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE, THE APPLICABILITY OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO START THE FIRST PART JUST TO DOING THE REGULAR, UH, UH, UH, SITE PLAN REVIEW.
DO WE HAVE A, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE EAGLE ENERGY STORY? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS LENO RETTA.
I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT, MY, AND ON THE ON PARTNER AT THE FIRM, ALBANO AND FRANK.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPLICATION, UM, WITH ME THIS EVENING, UH, THAT'S ALSO ON THE ZOOM CALL.
AND, AND I JUST WANNA THANK THE YOU CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF FOR ENTERTAINING US THIS EVENING.
UM, THIS EVENING, ALSO AS PART OF THE TEAM, WE HAVE JAMES ROBINSON FROM STRATUS SOLAR, WHO'S OUR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, FARINO AND ASSOCIATES, WHO'S OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, JOHN ROMEO FROM INSIGHT NORTHEAST ENGINEERING, WHO'S OUR ENGINEER, WHO WILL GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN.
SO, UM, WE ARE EXCITED MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS IT'S THE FIRST OF ITS KIND, WHICH WILL ENABLE CLEAN
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RENEWABLE ENERGY, SUCH AS SOLAR AND WIND TO BE STORED IN, IN BATTERIES THAT ARE HOUSED IN CUSTOM CABINETS AND CONNECTED, WHICH WILL BE ULTIMATELY CONNECTED TO THE CONDIT SUBSTATION.UH, THIS RENEWABLE ENERGY WILL BE UTILIZED DURING PEAK ENERGY DEMAND.
NOW, THESE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS CREATE ZERO LOCAL CARBON EMISSIONS AND WILL PRODUCE ENOUGH POWER, AS I STATED IN, IN OUR, UH, SUBMISSION TO POWER 5,000 HOMES FOR AN ENTIRE DAY WITHOUT A RECHARGE.
NOW, THIS FACILITY WILL INCREASE GRID EFFICIENCY, RELIABILITY, AND WILL ALSO REDUCE THE NEED FOR TRADITIONAL CARBON EMITTING, EMITTING SOURCES OF ENERGY.
NOW, WHAT STRATOS PROPOSING IS TO INSTALL A 20 MEGAWATT ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM ON A SECLUDED PIECE OF WHAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, IS A NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB PARKING LOT.
UH, WHEN ULTIMATELY BUILT, WE HOPE THE PROJECT WILL LOOK SIMILAR TO WHAT, LIKE A SHIPPING CONTAINER, AND WE'LL SHOW YOU, UH, A RENDERING OF THAT IN OUR PRESENTATION.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED IN R 30 ZONE, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WHICH PERMITS A, A SPECIAL PERMITTED PUBLIC UTILITY USE, WHICH, UM, WE, I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL DISCUSS IT, BUT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH STAFF AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH RESPECT TO THE USE OF USE, AND WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS WOULD QUALIFY AS A PUBLIC UTILITY, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TABLE THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE APPROVALS, WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
UH, THIS MATTER HAS BEEN REFERRED TO YOUR BOARD REGARDING THE SITE PLAN.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA REQUIRE WETLAND STEEP SLOPE AND TREE REMOVAL PERMITS AMONG OTHERS.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPLICATION, UH, THE, WE ALSO REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM THE VILLAGE OF ELFORD, WHICH, UH, THEY WILL BE CONDUITS THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE VILLAGE, AND WE WILL NEED, UH, APPROVALS FROM THEM.
NOT SURE IF IT'S ULTIMATELY SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT THIS POINT.
WE MAY NEED SITE PLAN APPROVAL, BUT THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE ITSELF IS REALLY IN, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GOING TO PASS ALONG, UH, THIS PRESENTATION TO JOHN ROMEO FROM INSIGHT.
UH, AARON, IF, IF IT'S OKAY, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SHARE, UH, UH, JOHN ROMEO'S SCREEN? YES, THANK YOU.
AND OF COURSE, AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, OBVIOUSLY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE WILL WE'LL HEAR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
SO, JOHN, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, TAKE IT AWAY.
UH, AND THANK YOU ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I AM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH INSIGHT NORTHEAST ENGINEERING, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE EAGLE ENERGY STORAGE PROJECT, UH, PROJECT HERE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
UH, ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, UH, WE'RE HERE WITH, UH, STRATUS SOLAR.
UH, STRATUS SOLAR IS THE, THE, THE COMPANY WHO IS PURSUING THIS, AND THEIR LEGAL ENTITY FOR THIS PROJECT IS THE EAGLE ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.
I KNOW THAT THAT MAY BE A QUESTION, UH, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE, UH, PUT TOGETHER A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE WITH OUR PROJECT TEAM, STARTING WITH STRATUS SOLAR, JAMES ROBINSON AS OUR, THE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT.
THEY HAVE DONE, UH, A COUPLE HUNDRED SOLAR PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS KIND OF, ITS THE FIRST, UH, OF ITS TYPE IN NEW YORK, UH, STATE.
IT IS, IT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER SOLAR PROJECTS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT INVOLVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOLAR PANELS.
IT, THESE ARE BATTERIES, UH, VERY, VERY STRONG BATTERIES.
UH, YOU KNOW, 20 MEGAWATTS FOR A, UH, PROJECT OF THIS TYPE IN A REGARDS TO A SOLAR FIELD WOULD BE A HUNDRED ACRES OR SO.
SO THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF FACILITY THAT WORKS IN TANDEM WITH OTHER GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BRING THAT TO THIS AREA.
IN ADDITION TO STRATA SOLAR, WE HAVE A FARINO AND ASSOCIATES, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW HERE FROM MULTI BONO CONDOM, AND FRANK AND MYSELF FROM IN INSIGHT.
OUR PRELIMINARY LAYOUT, UH, EXTENDS FROM THE ELMSFORD SUBSTATION IN THE VILLAGE ACROSS THE, UH, ACROSS WESTCHESTER EXPRESSWAY, 2 87 THROUGH THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB TO OUR PROJECT SITE, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE, AND AS THE EAGLE BEST SITE THAT'S THE BEST DANCE FOR, UH, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.
NOW, WITH THIS CONCEPT, MOST OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE THIS EVENING IS WITH REGARDS TO THE TOWN, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO OPTIONS TO ROUTE OUR CONDUITS.
REGARDLESS OF HOW WE ROUTE THEM.
WE WOULD BE GOING BENEATH, UH, THE CROSS WESTCHESTER EXPRESSWAY THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, DIRECTIONAL BORING.
AND THEN AS WE TRAVERSE THE SITE ITSELF, WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OPTION WHERE EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY UNDERGROUND, AND ONE OPTION WHERE A PORTION OF IT, WHERE IT TRANSITIONS NEXT TO THE DRIVING RANGE ITSELF WOULD BE WITH TRADITIONAL TELEPHONE POLES ABOVE GROUND.
REGARDLESS, EVERYTHING WOULD THEN TRANSITION BACK UNDERGROUND TOWARDS THE EAGLE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SITE.
WITH REGARDS TO THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD, AGAIN, JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON IT, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT TWO OPTIONS FOR OUR SWITCHGEAR.
THE SWITCHGEAR IS MINIMAL, JUST LIKE ANY OLD STANDARD ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT THAT YOU SEE AS SHOWN HERE.
UM, ONE OF THEM BEING ON ONE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, ONE OF THEM BEING ON THE OTHER.
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AS LENO AS ALREADY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A 20 MEGAWATT FACILITY.UH, OUR IMPACTS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE FAIRLY MINIMAL.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT LESS THAN ONE ACRE TO ACTUALLY AROUND A HALF AN ACRE PROJECT FOOTPRINT WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
OVERALL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE DIRECTLY BORN, A LOT OF THIS, WE WE'RE SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED.
WE DON'T NEED A SW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE UNDER GONNA HAVE VERY MINIMAL IMPACTS TO, UH, THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, POWER FOR 5,000 HOMES, AS LIDO MENTIONED.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A LONG-TERM LEASE WITH THIS PARCEL.
THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ON THIS PROJECT SITE FOR AT LEAST 30 YEARS WITH TWO FIVE-YEAR EXTENSION PERIODS.
THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED INTO THE SYSTEM WITH EXPANSION WITHIN IT, UH, WITHOUT EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT JUST FOR REPLACEMENT OF DIFFERENT PANELS AND EVERYTHING INSIDE, UH, OR DIFFERENT COMPONENTS RATHER INSIDE THE FACILITY ITSELF.
AND, UH, ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TO MENTION WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, I GREW UP IN A LOWER NEW YORK INDIAN POINT WAS SOMETHING EVERYBODY, UH, WAS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF WITH THAT SHUTTERING.
THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A NEED FOR ELECTRICITY IN THE AREA.
THIS WOULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE, UH, A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THAT, AROUND 1% TO HELP THAT.
BUT WHAT IT REALLY DOES IS IT UNLOCKS, UH, A BOTTLENECK FROM UPSTATE NEW YORK.
UH, THERE'S A LOT MORE ROOM FOR GREEN, UH, YOU KNOW, GREEN ENERGY, SOLAR FARMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THIS ALLOWS FOR THAT TRANSFER OF POWER DOWN TO THIS AREA.
ALRIGHT, SO I HAVE A COUPLE PICTURES OF JUST SOME, UH, SOME PHOTOS OF THE PROJECT SITE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
THERE IS, UH, AN EXISTING GRAVEL SLASH HALF PAVEMENT AREA.
THIS WAS FORMALLY A TENNIS COURT.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME DEBRIS HERE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN USED.
IT'S KIND OF A SOMEWHAT OVERFLOW PARKING, MOSTLY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKERS AT THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
BUT, UH, AS YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME, UH, SOME TREES ON IT, UH, TOWARDS THE BACK HALF.
AND THERE'S, UH, SOME PILES OF MATERIAL.
THIS WOULD BE REMOVED AS PART OF OUR PROJECT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 48 TREES THAT WE WOULD BE REMOVING.
BUT, UH, PLEASE NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL LEAVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TREES WITH A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER IN THE AREA, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN AS WE GO THROUGH OUR SITE PLAN.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, PHOTO POINTING TOWARDS THE NORTH.
AND YOU CAN SEE JUST KIND OF WHAT WOULD BE, UH, REMAINING EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH WITH THOSE, UH, EVERGREEN TREES THERE WOULD PRETTY MUCH REMAIN.
UH, AND THEN THE COUNTRY CLUB ITSELF WOULD BE TO THE LEFT AT THIS AREA.
ALL RIGHT, OUR OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN, OKAY, LEMME ZOOM OUT ON THIS.
ALL RIGHT, SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE CONED SUBSTATION.
HERE'S OUR APPROXIMATE ROUTE WITH OUR ALTERNATE ROUTE COMING THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE.
AND OUR PROPOSED ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY IS HERE.
NOW, UH, WE HAVE IT SCREENED, UH, BUT I DO HAVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, A SCREEN UP WITH GOOGLE MAPS.
YOU GO THROUGH THAT, YOU COULD SEE HOW MUCH TREES THERE ARE STILL REMAINING IN THIS AREA BETWEEN THIS AND NORWOOD ROAD.
NOW, OUR DETAILED PROJECT SITE, YOU'LL NOTICE THE GRADE DIFFERENCE.
NOW, THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROJECT SITE IS FAIRLY FLAT.
YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A CROSS SLOPE OF, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO 6% ACROSS SOME OF IT, TOWARDS THE, YOU KNOW, BOTTOM CORNER HERE.
WE ARE PROPOSING A RETAINING WALL UP TO 15 FEET TALL.
UH, AND THAT'S TO LIMIT OUR IMPACTS TO THESE VERY STEEP SLOPES AS YOUR CODE DEFINES IT.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IN THIS AREA, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME CONTOURS.
THESE ARE TWO FOOT CONTOURS, BUT NOTHING TOO, TOO MAJOR.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO LIMIT OUR DISTURBANCE INTO THAT.
THESE ARE THE EXPANSION, EXPANSION MODULES I WAS DISCUSSING.
UH, WE DO HAVE SEPARATION WITH THIS TO, TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, EASY ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE, UH, FOR SAFETY AND FOR JUST A GENERAL ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE IN HERE.
THE REST OF THIS AREA IS FULLY WOODED, AND WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE NORWOOD ROAD AREA.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE HERE, THIS IS THE THREE 10 CONTOUR, AND THE NATURAL CONTOUR HERE IS TWO 80.
UH, SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE IN ELEVATION WHERE THIS SHOULD NEVER BE SEEN FROM THE PUBLIC ROADWAY.
UM, THE RENDERINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, FAR ANDINO WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER.
COMING HERE, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THESE ARE OUR, UH, BATTERY, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM, UH, CONTAINERS.
THIS IS AN APPROXIMATE LOOK OF WHAT THE GATE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE ARE INCLUDING VINYL SLATT FENCING.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE SOME LOW GROWTH, UH, LANDSCAPING IN FRONT.
AND THE REASON WE CANNOT GO TOO TALL IS 'CAUSE THERE ARE EXISTING POWER LINES THAT RUN IN FRONT OF THIS FACILITY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO LIMIT THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF PLANTINGS IN FRONT OF THIS, OF THIS FACILITY.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED ARE, ARE VINES.
UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER, UH, OPTIONS WE CAN USE.
WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE THE DENSEST SCREENING MATERIAL WE CAN
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WITH REGARDS TO OUR HEIGHT, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO KEEP TO 12 FEET, UH, AROUND 12 FEET, 12 TO 15 FEET MAX, UH, IN THIS GENERAL AREA HERE.UH, AS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THIS IS AN APPROXIMATE RENDERING OF WHAT OUR TREE LINE WOULD LOOK LIKE AFTER WE REMOVE IT.
AS YOU'LL NOTICE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS SITE SHOULD BE VISIBLE AT ALL FROM OFFSITE, THE COUNTRY CLUB, AND CERTAINLY NOT, YOU KNOW, FROM ANYWHERE ELSE BESIDES JUST STANDING IN FRONT OF IT, LOOKING DIRECTLY AT IT.
ALRIGHT? THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE, UH, BATTERY CABINET WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THEY ARE MANUFACTURED BY TESLA.
UH, SO THIS IS A, YOU, AS YOU'LL NOTICE, THEY LOOK LIKE, KIND OF LIKE STORAGE, SHIPPING CONTAINERS, BUT THEY HAVE A CLEAN LOOK.
UH, WE'RE HOPING TO HIDE THEM ALL BEHIND OUR FENCE, UH, IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND, UH, OUR DIMENSIONS ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 8.25 FEET TALL.
WE'RE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, RAISED SECTIONS, JUST A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR, UH, SLOPE ON THE SITE.
BUT EITHER WAY, NO, NOTHING WOULD BE OVER 10 FEET AT ALL ON THE SITE.
WITH REGARDS TO SURROUNDING ELEVATIONS, UH, WE HAVE VARIOUS MEANS AND METHODS OF COOLING AND KEEPING EVERYTHING SAFE.
A FIRE RATED STEEL ENCLOSURE, EVERYTHING WILL BE MONITORED 24 7, UH, YOU KNOW, BY OFFSITE TEAMS. NOW, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO JUST NOTICE OR NOTE BEFORE I WRAP THIS UP.
THIS PROJECT, UH, AS I NOTED, HAS VERY MINIMAL IMPACTS TO THE, THE AREA OF THE SLOPES.
WE ARE TAKING DOWN SOME TREES TO, TO PUT THIS IN HERE.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SUPPLEMENTING THAT WITH SOME PLANTINGS ON THE, THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
AND WITH REGARDS TO TRAFFIC, WE REALLY SEE NO IMPACTS WITH THIS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA OBVIOUSLY BE SOME CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THIS IS GONNA REQUIRE JUST REGULAR SINGLE TRUCK MAINTENANCE SPORADICALLY AS, UH, SOMETHING HAPPENS.
THERE ARE NO FULL-TIME CREWS THAT OPERATE THIS.
THERE'S NO NECESSARY LIGHTS THAT LIGHT UP ANY OTHER AREA.
UH, ALL THERE ARE ON SITE IS JUST THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND ANY SAFETY MEASURES THAT ARE, THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THIS PRESENTATION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT OVER.
I WILL STOP SHARING AND PASS THIS OVER TO JAMES ROBERTSON FROM STRATA SOLAR TO CONTINUE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT STRATA SOLAR.
WHEN DO WE GET TO ASK QUESTIONS? OH, GOOD.
PROBABLY GOOD POINT FOR PROB, AFTER EACH PRESENTATION, I THINK, UH, WILL BE A PROPER TIME TO ASK A QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MIKE? UM, I GOT THREE, MAYBE FOUR.
OKAY, NUMBER ONE, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT OF THESE BATTERY UNITS? YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HOW MANY FEET? BY HOW MANY FEET? JUST CURIOUS.
I DON'T HAVE THAT ALL COMPLETELY IN FRONT OF ME.
IT IS 23 FEET LONG AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SIX FEET WIDE.
JAMES, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? NO, NO, NO.
BUT YOU GOT A BUNCH OF UNITS THERE.
SO WHAT'S THE TOTAL FOOTPRINT OF ALL THE UNITS COMBINED? UH, INCLUDING OUR, OUR PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE? NO, NO, NO.
I DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT CALCULATED.
UH, JUST BASED ON JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BATTERIES.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE THE OTHER ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT IN THERE AS WELL? THAT, THAT'S ON SITE WITH THE TRANSFORMERS? YOU SHOWED US AN AERIAL VIEW OF THIS BIG BUNCH OF UNITS.
HOW, HOW LONG IS IT AND HOW WIDE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN FROM THE AIR FROM AN AIRPLANE, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? OKAY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
MR. ROMEO, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO, UM, JUST GIVE THE, UH, THE, THE, THE FENCED IN AREA FOR REFERENCE, AND THEN WE WOULD KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME DISTANCE.
SO THIS IS THE FENCED IN AREA.
THIS IS WHERE I WAS SAYING THAT I DON'T HAVE LIKE, JUST A FOOTPRINT OF EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE AREA.
UH, IN AND OF ITSELF, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 23 FEET HERE BY 11.2 FEET.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT WHAT I'D HAVE TO CALCULATE THAT IS TAKING OUT THE SURROUNDING GRAVEL AREA, UH, OUT OF THAT, THAT WHOLE SPACE.
BUT THIS FENCED IN AREA IS UNDER HALF AN ACRE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS ENTIRE FACILITY UNDERNEATH THIS IS, IS UNDER HALF AN ACRE.
IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 50 FEET BY A HUNDRED FEET.
IS THAT CLOSE? I CAN SHOW YOU RIGHT NOW.
WITH THE DIGITAL PRESENTATIONS, WE'RE ALWAYS STILL PULLING UP EVERYTHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY SO MUCH I CAN PREPARE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PIECE.
IT'S RIGHT AROUND 115 FEET BY 175.
SO IT'S MUCH MORE THAN I THOUGHT.
UM, WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR ELECTRICITY
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FROM TO CHARGE THE BATTERIES? THE ELECTRICITY WILL BE COMING FROM CONED.UH, THE CONED SUBSTATION OVER, OVER, UH, IN ELMSFORD WILL BE SUPPLYING THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE COMING WITH THE UNDERGROUND ELECTRICAL CONDUITS TO SUPPLY THAT.
THE ACTUAL ENERGY ITSELF WILL BE DICTATED BY THE GRID.
UM, AND THAT, JAMES, IT'S NOT COMING, IT'S NOT COMING FROM SOLAR PANELS OR WINDMILLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
JAMES, CAN YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE ELECTRICAL, UH, SPECIFICS? YEAH, THANK THANKS JOHN.
UM, SO, SO, SO THE BATTERY SYSTEM IS CONNECTED TO CON'S GRID.
UM, AND SO IT WILL BE CHARGED USING WHATEVER, UH, WHATEVER IS GENERATING THE ELECTRICITY, UH, FOR THE GRID AT THAT TIME.
UH, BUT IN PRACTICE, UH, IN NEW YORK STATE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A, UH, A LOT OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.
SO, UH, MAINLY SOLAR AND SOME WIND THAT'S LOCATED UPSTATE.
AND THERE'S A BOTTLENECK GETTING THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY INTO WESTCHESTER AND INTO NEW YORK CITY.
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH POWER LINES TO, TO TRANSFER ALL OF IT.
AND SO THE BATTERY WILL BE BEING CHARGED FROM THE GRID DURING OFF PEAK PERIODS.
SO USUALLY AT NIGHT, AND WE'LL BE DISCHARGING BACK TO THE GRID DURING PEAK PERIODS DURING THE DAY.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOWS, UH, THE RENEWABLE ENERGY TO GET DOWN INTO THE AREA AT NIGHT WHEN THE LINES ARE CLEAR, AND THEN TO BE PUSHED BACK INTO THE GRID DURING THE DAY WHEN THE LINES ARE AT THEIR MAX CAPACITY.
SO EFFECTIVELY IT'S, IT'S BRINGING MORE RENEWABLES DOWN, UH, IN, INTO THE AREA.
UM, THE, DO THESE UNITS MAKE ANY NOISE? DO THEY HUM? DO THEY BUZZ? DO THEY DO ANYTHING? I KNOW THERE'S A COOLING UNIT IN THERE.
WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY NOISE OFFSITE.
UH, I WILL HAVE TO, I'M PULLING UP RIGHT NOW OUR FULL E A F THAT WE SUBMITTED WITH THIS, WITH THE, THE IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT I BELIEVE REFERENCES THE DECIBELS.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, BUT IF WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY PREPARE THAT FOR THE, THE NEXT TIME.
BUT IT IS CERTAINLY NOT SOME SORT OF NOISE THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE HEARD OUTSIDE OF THE, THE FENCE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, COOLING FANS WHEN YOU'RE WITHIN THE, THE FENCE AREA.
YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO US NEXT TIME BECAUSE, BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
AND MY FINAL QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU FOLKS MAKE MONEY? YOU BUY THE ELECTRICITY CHEAP FROM CONED AND SELL IT BACK AT A PROFIT? YEAH, SO THAT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF IT.
UM, ELECTRICITY IS LESS EXPENSIVE AT, AT NIGHT DURING THE OFF PEAK TIMES AND MORE EXPENSIVE DURING THE DAY.
SO, SO WE CAN MAKE A PROFIT DOING THAT.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER MARKETS THAT, THAT, UH, ARE PRESENT IN NEW YORK STATE.
UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE GET PAID TO PROVIDE WHAT'S CALLED CAPACITY, WHICH IS, UH, BEING READY TO PROVIDE ELECTRICITY WHEN THE, UM, WHEN THE GRID NEEDS IT.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE, WE WOULD GET PAID TO DO BY BEING PRESENT AND IN THIS CONSTRAINED AREA AND READY TO PROVIDE ELECTRICITY WHEN NEEDED.
AND WHO PAYS YOU FOR THAT? SO THERE'S A MARKET, UH, CALLED THE NEW YORK ISO, AND IT'S BASICALLY A, UH, A A MARKET WHERE BUYERS AND SELLERS ARE PAIRED.
UH, AND SO WHEN CON EDISON BUYS ELECTRICITY FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WOULD'VE TO GO TO THIS MARKET AND BUY THE ELECTRICITY AND BUY THE CAPACITY.
AND WE, AS A OWNER OF AN ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM, WOULD BE ON THE MARKET SELLING IT TO.
AND JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, EVERYONE, JUST THE REASON WHY THESE BATTERIES NOW BECOME, UM, UH, I GUESS, I GUESS THE FUTURE IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THESE BATTERIES NOW, UH, HA HAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED.
I MEAN, WITH TESLA, THE CARS, BATTERY OPERATED CARS, THESE, THIS IS THE, THE NEW TECHNOLOGY.
THIS IS PRETTY MUCH, UH, THE DIRECTION OF THE FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE STORAGE SYSTEMS. SO, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAD, UH, WE HAD THE QUESTIONS BY MR. GOLDEN, BUT I KNOW, JIM, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING FURTHER ABOUT STRATA, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THE QUESTIONS, UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING FURTHER, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT STRATA HAS DONE THIS BEFORE, UH, QUITE SUCCESSFULLY.
SO I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, FOR, FOR, IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND AND SOME COLOR THAT YOU, YOU, YOU HEAR FROM JIM IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT STRATA HAS DONE.
SO JIM, CAN YOU JUST GIVE A QUICK BACKGROUND, WELL, BEFORE WE MOVE AWAY FROM THE BATTERIES THEMSELVES, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE BATTERY.
UM, UH, UM, YOU INDICATED THAT THEY ARE FULLY ENCLOSED AND, AND FIRE PROTECTED.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME, UH, SOME INDICATION IN THE LITERATURE OF THESE BATTERIES CATCHING FIRE.
AND, UH, SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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TO PREVENT, UH, UH, THESE UNITS FROM CATCHING FIRE? AND IF IT SHOULD CATCH FIRE, HOW, WHAT PROVISIONS YOU HAVE TO PREVENT IT FROM SPREADING OUT, UH, ASSUMING NEARBY, UH, A TREE? JIM, DID YOU WANNA OR JOHN HANDLE THAT? YEAH, I CAN, I CAN TAKE THAT ONE.UM, SO STRATA HAS, UH, EVALUATED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BATTERIES THAT ARE ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, UM, VERY EXTENSIVELY.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE SELECTED THE TESLA MEGAPACK FOR THIS PROJECT, UM, MAY PARTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR, THEIR SAFETY FEATURES.
UM, SO, SO THE TESLA MEGAPACK IS, UH, IT'S CERTIFIED, IT'S GONE THROUGH EXTENSIVE CERTIFICATION, INCLUDING THE UL 95 40 A PROCESS.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO COMPLIANT WITH N F P A 8 55.
UM, AND, AND THEY, THE SYSTEMS COME STANDARD WITH A NUMBER OF FEATURES THAT ARE, UH, THAT HELP TO PROTECT FROM, FROM FIRE RISK.
UH, FOR ONE, THEY HAVE, UH, 24 7 MONITORING OF THE SYSTEM.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL IF THE SYSTEM IS BEGINNING TO HEAT UP OR IF THERE ARE ANY INDICATIONS THAT, THAT THERE'S A MALFUNCTION WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT COULD BE A PRECURSOR TO A, UH, TO A FIRE STARTING.
UH, THE SYSTEMS ALSO HAVE AUTOMATIC SHUTOFF IF CERTAIN THRESHOLDS ARE, ARE BREACHED.
SO IF, IF HEAT THRESHOLDS AND OTHERS ARE BREACHED, UM, THEY, THEY ALSO ARE DESIGNED TO IN, UH, KEEP ANY FIRE THAT MAY START WITHIN THE SYSTEM, UH, CAN, UH, WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND NOT ABLE TO, TO LEAVE AND POTENTIALLY CATCH OTHER THINGS ON FIRE OUTSIDE.
UH, SO THERE'S, THE ENCLOSURE ITSELF IS FIRE RATED STEEL.
EACH INDIVIDUAL CABINET IS ALSO FIRE RATED.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S AN INTEGRATED COOLING SYSTEM.
THAT HELPS TO KEEP THE SYSTEM COOL AND, AND, UH, NOT LET ANY FIRE START.
UM, I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT, THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, SOME CONSULTANTS INCLUDING AN X F D N Y, UH, FIRE CHIEF, AND HE'S CONDUCTED WALKTHROUGHS ON THIS SITE, UH, TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A POTENTIAL FIRE HAZARD.
UM, HIS CONCLUSION IS THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD SITE FOR ENERGY STORAGE.
IT DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY RISK TO LIFER PROPERTY.
UM, AND THAT IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS A REMOTE INSTALLATION, WHICH IS, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, UH, HAZARDOUS JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE AROUND THERE THAT, THAT COULD CATCH, UH, CATCH ON FIRE.
UM, AND I'LL, I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT OF NEW YORK, F D N Y HAS, UH, EVALUATED THE SYSTEM AND THEY ARE, THEY, THEIR NEW CODE, WHICH CAME OUT LAST YEAR, UM, ALLOWS FOR PERMITTING OF THESE TYPES OF SYSTEMS WITHIN 10 FEET OF LOT LINES AND, AND OTHER BUILDINGS.
SO THEY'RE VERY WELL DESIGNED TO KEEP ANY ISSUES, UH, CONFINED TO THE ENCLOSURE ITSELF.
AND JUST MR. CHAIRMAN, JU JUST, UH, I, I KNOW, UH, JIM MENTIONED IT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THERE IS LIKE A DOUBLE CONTAINMENT OF THE STEEL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE NOT MEANT TO CATCH ON FIRE, BUT, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID SOMETHING THEY ARE CONTAINED WITHIN, WITHIN THESE UNITS, WITHIN THESE STEEL STRUCTURES.
SO, AND AGAIN, JIM POINTED THAT OUT, BUT I KNOW WE HAD THE, WE HAD THE SLIDE UP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO, UM, COULD YOU, COULD YOU FOLLOW UP WITH AND, AND, AND SUBMIT SAFETY DATA ON THIS UNIT? YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE TESLA HAVE SAFETY, UH, DATA, UH, NEW YORK, UH, STATE HAVE SAFETY DATA.
SO COULD YOU JUST SUBMIT THAT SAFETY DATA ON THE UNIT AS PART OF YOUR PACKAGE? YES, WE CAN DO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? CHAIRPERSON SIMON? MS. RAAG HAS A QUESTION? SURE, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AS WELL.
UM, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE FENCING AND SECURITY AROUND THE AREA WHERE THE BATTERY PACKS WOULD BE STORED.
CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT IN MORE DETAIL FOR ME PLEASE? YEP.
ALRIGHT, SO I JUST, I'M GONNA PULL THIS ALL UP AS I'M JUMPING BETWEEN SHARING SCREENS, I SHOULD PROBABLY JUST KEEP IT UP RIGHT NOW, SHOULDN'T I?
IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, UH, SCREENED WITH VINYL SLATS, THE VERTICAL VINYL SLATS OR SOMETHING EQUIVALENT TO THAT.
UH, AND THEN AT THE TOP OF THE FENCE, WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKELY SOME SECURITY BARBED WIRE, UH, YOU KNOW, MATERIAL TO BASICALLY PREVENT PEOPLE FROM COMING IN.
UH, WE HAVE A 20 FOOT WIDE ACCESS GATE, UH, THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED AT THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT THERE'D BE ANY NEED TO HAVE ANY MORE MANDOS, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE WE COULD HAVE A
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MANDO DOWN HERE.UM, OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE NO NEED TO ACCESS THE REST OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE SITE.
UH, AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO FENCING DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A, UH, RETAINING WALL THAT'D BE PLACED IN THE BACK.
LIKELY THE FENCE WOULD BE PLACED ON TOP OF THE RETAINING WALL.
I SHOWED IT SCHEMATICALLY AS NOT BEING THAT WAY JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, VISUAL CLARITY.
AND THEN AGAIN, UH, ALONG THE FRONT, NEAR THE PARKING LOT, WE'D BE TRYING TO SCREEN THE FENCE AND THE FACILITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH ARBOR, IE.
OR SOME SORT OF EQUIVALENT PLANTING.
IT DOESN'T GET TOO TALL, BUT CERTAINLY TALL ENOUGH TO COMPLETELY BLOCK OR MOSTLY BLOCK THE FACILITY ITSELF FROM VISUAL VIEW.
WHY ARE YOU KEEPING THE ARBOR, IE.
LOW? THERE ARE OVERHEAD LINES, UH, EXISTING OVERHEAD LINES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ABOVE WHERE THE ARBOR ES WOULD BE.
UM, AND BASED ON THE HEIGHT OF THOSE LINES IS ABOUT 15 TO 18 FEET.
WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THE PLANTS OUT OF THERE SO THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TRIMMED TO THE SAME HEIGHT THAT WE'D BE PROPOSING.
WHAT ARE YOU REPLACING THEM WITH? UH, APPROXIMATELY 26 ARBORVITAES RIGHT NOW, THERE MAY BE SOME ROOM ON THE SITE OUTSIDE OF THIS IMMEDIATE AREA WHERE WE COULD SUPPLEMENT WITH SOME OTHER PLANTINGS, UM, BUT WE HADN'T PROPOSED ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT YET.
WE WANTED TO OBVIOUSLY GET IN TOUCH WITH, WITH ALL OF YOU.
UH, THERE IS POTENTIALLY SOME AREA FOR PLANTING OVER THIS AREA.
WE'D HAVE TO TALK WITH THE COUNTRY CLUB AS ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF OUR PROJECT AREA IS OUTSIDE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LEASE AREA PARCEL.
BUT THERE WOULD BE CONSIDERATION FOR OTHER NATURAL PLANTINGS, I'M ASSUMING.
WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH THE, UH, NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE SITE THAT'S, AGAIN, OUTSIDE OF THIS LEASE AREA, UH, WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO, TO PLANT SOME TREES.
WE NEED TO, I WOULD, I, GO AHEAD ADAM.
I WOULD JUST ADD, ASK THAT, UH, THAT YOU DO CONSIDER SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTRY CLUB REGARDING SPECIFICALLY THE NORTH SIDE NOW OR THE TOP OF THE SCREEN MM-HMM.
THE PROJECT BEING THAT IT REQUIRES A WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT WILL BE REFERRED TO OUR CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL.
AND I KNOW BOTH THAT COUNCIL AND THIS PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, ARE GONNA WANT TO SEE SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT BUFFER AREA, LIKELY THROUGH THE INCORPORATION OF ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS.
SO I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND, AND BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK ON IT.
AND I'M HAPPY TO TOUCH BASE WITH YOU OR ADVISE IN ANY WAY I'M ABLE TO ASSIST.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE WETLANDS.
UH, SOMETHING JUST ON THAT NOTE THAT SINCE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC, UH, HERE IS THE SMALL WETLAND AREA IS 3,400 SQUARE FEET, AND THEN OUR 100 FOOT BUFFER.
AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING, UH, A PORTION OF THE, THE BUFFER, THE EXISTING BUFFER IMPACTS.
RIGHT NOW, AS YOU'LL NOTICE UNDER HERE ON MY SCREEN, THIS AREA, UH, SHOWN IN GRAY IS ACTUALLY THE CURRENT PARKING LOT AREA THAT'S, THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.
THE AREA SHOWN WITH THIS FENCE LINE IS THE EXTENT OF OUR PROJECT.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING A PORTION OF THAT BUFFER IMPACT.
WHAT'S NOT SHOWN IN THIS AREA IS THAT THERE'S, THERE'S FILL HERE, THERE'S SOME TRASH AND DEBRIS THAT EXTENDS IN.
THESE ARE ALL EXISTING IMPACTS THAT WE'D BE LOOKING TO REMOVE FROM THAT WETLAND AREA AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
ADDITIONALLY, YOU SPOKE ABOUT 24 7 MONITORING FOR SAFETY.
CAN YOU, UM, DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DEPTH? JAMES, CAN YOU, UH, HANDLE THIS QUESTION PLEASE? YEAH, SO THE, THE SYSTEM IS, WE'LL HAVE COMPUTERS INSIDE OF THEM, UH, THAT ARE MONITORING VARIOUS, UH, PARAMETERS.
SO THEY'LL BE MONITORING TEMPERATURE, THEY'LL BE MONITORING THINGS LIKE VOLTAGE.
UH, THEY'LL BE MONITORING THE CHARGING AND THE DISCHARGING OF THE SYSTEM.
AND THEN THAT'S ALL RELAYED BACK, UH, TO OUR, WHAT'S CALLED OUR KNOCK, OUR NETWORK OPERATION CENTER, WHERE WE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE SYSTEMS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL WITHIN TOLERANCE.
UM, AND THEN SEPARATE FROM OUR MONITORING, THERE'S ALSO THE AUTOMATIC SHUTOFF WHERE THE SYSTEM IS PRE-PROGRAMMED.
SO EVEN IF FOR WHATEVER REASON WE, WE MISSED SOMETHING, UH, THE SYSTEM'S PRE-PROGRAMMED TO SHUT THE, THE BATTERY DOWN IF, IF CERTAIN TOLERANCES ARE, ARE BREACHED.
UM, WE DO HAVE A COMMENT OR MR. SNAG.
UH, ALONG THE LINES OF THE MONITORING, IT, IT SOUNDS AS IF YOU MONITOR FOR, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S UNDER NORM, ENERGY SPIKES OR HEAT, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
ASIDE FROM THE FENCE AND THE PERIMETER THAT YOU CREATE, IS THERE SECURITY ELEMENTS TO THIS SITE AS WELL? I'M ASSUMING THAT THESE, UM, BATTERY UNITS ARE OF HIGH VALUE
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AND, UM, ALMOST CERTAIN THAT THERE MIGHT BE A, A MARKET FOR IT.SO WHAT MEASURES ARE BEING TAKEN? I'M CURIOUS TO MONITOR THE SITE FOR SECURITY.
IS THAT NECESSARY? SO AS PROPOSED, WE HAVE THE FENCING AND THE BARBED WIRE.
UM, I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE PROPOSED ANY ELECTRONIC MONITORING.
UM, THAT'S MAINLY JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN, IN THE, THAT, THAT DESIGN, I BELIEVE.
BUT, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO INTEGRATE THAT IN IF, UH, IF WE DID THINK IT WAS NECESSARY.
JAMES, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT BECAUSE OF THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, HIGHER VOLTAGE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, THERE'S LIKELY SOME SORT OF LOCKOUT TAGOUT PROCEDURE TO ACCESS IT.
SO IF EACH, ANY ONE OF THE PANELS OR INDIVIDUAL COMPARTMENTS WAS OPEN, THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THROWN SOMEWHERE OF A CODE FOR SOMEBODY TO SEE, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT, THAT'S RIGHT.
SO BY DESIGN, THEY COME WITH SOME, SOME FEATURE TO, TO NOTE THAT, HEY, THIS IS OFFLINE, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE 24 7 MONITORING OR THAT'S SOMETHING JUST SWITCHED OFF.
SO WE HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FROM, UH, MR. DESAI AND MR. GOLDEN AS WELL.
SO, UH, SHOULD I GO FIRST? YES, PLEASE.
UH, STARTING WITH THE, UH, THE FIRE, FIRE SAFETY AND, UH, UH, UH, IS IS THE DO, WHAT ARE THE SORT OF OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE SIMILARLY PLANNED AND BUILT? UH, WHAT IS THE EXPERIENCE OF FIRE'S SAFETY IN THAT AREAS, IF YOU CAN TELL ABOUT THAT? I, I'M SORRY, MR. DIA, CAN YOU JUST REPEAT THAT QUESTION JUST SO I UNDERSTAND IT? OKAY.
THE, UH, THE, WHAT ARE THE, SINCE YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE SIMILAR FACILITIES ALREADY IN OPERATIONS BY EITHER BY THIS COMPANY OR SOME OTHER ONES.
SO WHAT IS THEIR, UH, TRACK RECORD OR SAFETY EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF THE FIRE? JIM, I, I WOULD HAVE YOU ANSWER THAT.
SO, UM, THE TESLA SYSTEMS HAVE HAD MANY MEGAWATT HOURS, SO MANY THOUSANDS OF MEGAWATT HOURS INSTALLED WITH, WITH NO FIRES.
THEY, THEY HAVE A, A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD ON, ON THE FIRE, UM, FRONT, UH, BUT STRATA HAS HAD NO ISSUES WITH ANY OF OUR SYSTEMS EITHER.
UM, AND, UH, THERE'S, AS THE BATTERIES CONTINUE TO, MORE AND MORE OF THEM ARE BEING INSTALLED, UM, THE, THE FIRE RISKS ARE BEING SHOWN TO BE VERY, VERY SMALL, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU, WHEN COMPARED TO EVEN THE RISK OF OTHER TYPES OF ELECTRICITY EQUIPMENT.
UM, THERE'S ALSO CERTIFICATIONS THAT I MENTIONED, SO THE UL 95 40 A TESTING, AS WELL AS THE N F P A CERTIFICATIONS THAT, THAT HAVE THAT SHOW THAT THE SYSTEMS ARE MEETING ALL OF THE STANDARDS AND, AND ARE, ARE SAFE.
AND WE WILL CERTAINLY COMPILE AND, AND PROVIDE TO THE BOARD TO REVIEW THESE, UH, SAFETY PROCEDURES.
THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP AND, UH, LOOK UP EVERYTHING INDIVIDUALLY.
ANY TESTING THAT IS, UH, AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REPORTS AND CERTAINLY THE N E C AND F P A CODES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU FOR REVIEW.
THE, AND THE, UH, PART OF THE QUESTION IS THAT, DO YOU, IF THERE IS A PEOPLE WORKING, UH, OR, OR MAINTENANCE, AND IF THE FIRE HAPPENS, WHAT KIND OF EVACUATION PLAN YOU HAVE? YEAH, SO, UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, EVACUATION PLANS THAT, THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE WRITTEN UP.
UM, SO FOR ONE THING, THE FIRE WILL, WILL BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE SYSTEM ITSELF.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, IF YOU SEE ON THE TOP RIGHT OF THIS, UH, DOCUMENT, THE DE IRATION VENTING, UM, THAT IS ON THE ROOF OF THE SYSTEM.
AND THE INTENT, THE REASON THAT THAT'S THERE IS SO THAT IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF FIRE EVENT, UH, THE FIRE WOULD BE DIRECTED UP OUT OF THE TOP OF THE SYSTEM AND AWAY FROM ANYONE WHO MAY BE LOCATED ON THE GROUND LEVEL AROUND THE SYSTEM.
UM, SO THE OTHER REALLY GOOD FEATURE OF THE TESLA SYSTEM IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A CABINET BASED SYSTEM, THERE'S NO ACCESS FOR PERSONNEL WITHIN THE CONTAINER,
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WHICH THAT DISTINGUISHES IT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER DESIGNS OUT THERE.SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANY MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL OR ANYBODY ELSE COULD BE INSIDE THE CONTAINER WHERE THE FIRE HAZARD IS, IS THE GREATEST.
WHEN, WHEN AN EVENT WERE TO START, WELL, ONE THING TO NOTE, UH, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE BRIEFLY WENT OVER THE SITE LAYOUT PLAN, I DID NOT GO THROUGH ALL THE DIMENSIONS, UH, BETWEEN ALL THE COMPONENTS IS THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FEET THAT WE'RE SHOWING BETWEEN THE FACES OF BOTH OF THE, UH, BATTERY ENCLOSURES.
YOU'LL NOTICE WE HAVE SEVERAL BACK TO BACK, AND THEN THEY'D BE ACCESSED FROM ONE SIDE THAT'S IN AN EIGHT FOOT AISLE.
UH, SO WITH REGARDS TO ACCESS, AS JAMES SAID, EVERYTHING WOULD BE FROM THE FRONT FACE OF THE CABINET AS EACH INDIVIDUAL CABINET.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S INDIVIDUAL ACCESS PANELS AND THEN THERE'S EIGHT FOOT CLEAR WIDTH AROUND AND 13 FEET ON THE, THE OUTSIDE EDGES.
SO THERE SHOULD BE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR TO REMOVE FOR PERSONNEL OR SMALL, UH, VEHICLES WITHIN IT TO, YOU KNOW, INSTALL NEW COMPONENTS.
DO YOU HAVE TWO MEANS OF EGRESS FROM THE, YOUR FACILITY? WE HAVE A MAIN, UH, ACCESS HERE, AND I BELIEVE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT SHOWN, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A MAN DOOR OVER HERE AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN SHOW IN THE FUTURE IF NEEDED.
UH, NOW, UH, THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT, UH, SINCE IT IS ALL CHEMICAL BASED, UH, STORAGE SYSTEM, RIGHT? IN THIS CASE, UH, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IS THE, IT'S, AND, AND SO IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF THERE IS ANY BATTERY LEAKS, WHERE DOES THE, WHERE DOES THAT CHEMICAL FLOWS OUT OF IT OR, UH, GETS INTO THE AIR? UH, OR, OR ANY OF THIS, THIS, THIS, UH, SINCE IT IS A, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A VERY COMPLETE, VERY NEW, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND BEING, UH, PUT INTO PLACE.
UM, BUT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE WAY KIND OF DOING IT WITH A, UH, WITH A NUCLEAR ENERGY WAS ONE TIME CONSIDERED TO BE VERY SAFE AND WAS, WAS, AND THEN WE FOUND OUT AFTER 50 YEARS THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF SERIOUS PROBLEMS. SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, YOU ARE PROVIDING BEST ANSWERS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO HAPPENS AND HOW YOU, IF THERE IS A CHEMICAL LEAKS OUT.
JAMES, UH, BEFORE YOU JUMP IN HERE, UH, JUST ONE THING I WANTED TO NOTE.
UH, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE BATTERY CHEMISTRY.
THESE ARE LITHIUM ION BASED BATTERIES, THE SAME THING THAT'S IN, IN EVERY CELL PHONE NOWADAYS, THE SAME THING THAT'S PERMITTED IN THE TESLA CARS, AND IT'S PRETTY UBIQUITOUS.
SO WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEWER TECHNOLOGY, WE JUST MEAN WITH HOW CONDENSED THEY ARE, NOT NECESSARILY THE BATTERIES THEMSELVES.
THESE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE NOW.
IT'S JUST THAT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH HOW MUCH WE'RE ABLE TO PRODUCE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE WORLD, YOU ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE THIS IN A QUANTITY HIGH ENOUGH WHERE COSTS MAKE SENSE, WHERE WE CAN BUILD IT TO THIS LEVEL.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THIS IS MORE OF A SOLID STATE BATTERY, BUT, UH, JAMES, YOU CAN TALK TOWARDS THE BATTERY CHEMISTRY AND IF NOT, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE SOME, AGAIN, SAFETY DATA WITH THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
YEAH, WE, WE HAVE, UM, SPOKEN WITH TESLA ABOUT, ABOUT ANY, ANY, UH, POSSIBILITY OF A, OF A LIQUID LEAK.
AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT TESLA'S, WHAT TESLA'S TOLD US IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF LIQUID ELECTROLYTE, WHICH IS THE LIQUID PART OF THE, OF THE BATTERY IS, UM, IS SO SMALL, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S ENCASED WITHIN EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL BATTERY CELLS THAT THE, THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET ANY TYPE OF LIQUID, EVEN GET IT OUT OF THERE AT ALL, WOULD BE TO PUT IT THROUGH A CENTRIFUSION AND TRY TO SPIN IT OUT.
UM, SO THERE'S REALLY, THERE'S REALLY NO POSSIBILITY OF A LIQUID ELECTROLYTE LEAK.
SO I THINK THAT'S INTERRUPT FOR MINUTE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INTERRUPT FOR A MINUTE.
UM, UH, THERE, UH, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD SEND TO US A LOT OF, UH, SAFETY DATA, UH, THAT WE COULD REVIEW.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TO IT, I WOULD LIKE, YEAH.
I THINK LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLAN FOR, FOR THE EXPANSION ON THIS PROJECT SITE HERE WITH, UH, THE EAGLE PROJECT SITE? UH, WE HAVE THE, THE MAINTENANCE CONTAINERS THAT ARE SHOWN RIGHT HERE,
DO YOU, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPANSION PLAN OF THE THINGS
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IF YOU BECOME A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND, UH, YOU PIECE RIGHT.I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ANY EXPANSION PLANS ON THIS SITE AT AT, AT THIS TIME? WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY, ANY EXPANSION PLANS.
YOU'RE TALKING THIS FACILITY, UH, MR. D? CORRECT.
NOW, IF YOU HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I, I LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE SITE.
NO, WE, WE SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME IN THE BATTERY.
WELL, REFERRING TO WHAT THEY WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
SO, SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A VINYL FENCE WITH OUR PROVIDER SCREENING BETWEEN THE FACILITY AND THE CLUBHOUSE.
AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, LOOK, FORGIVE ME FOR SAYING THIS, BUT, BUT TO ME, VINYL FENCE SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT TACKY.
I MEAN, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE GOLF CLUB? ARE THEY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? I MEAN, WOULDN'T A NICE WOODEN FENCE BE MORE, I'M JUST RAISING THE ISSUE BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE GOLF CLUB WOULD ACCEPT A VINYL FENCE.
WELL, IT'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH VINYL SLATS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
WE, I, I THINK THE, UM, I, THE APPLICANT TAKE NOTE OF MR. GOLDMAN COMMENT AND, UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE NOTE OF THAT AND WE DISCUSS, WE, WE, WE WILL TAKE NOTE OF THAT COMMENT, MR. GOLDMAN.
SO WHAT I, AS I SAID BEFORE, I LIKE TO MOVE ON BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE WILL GET IN TERMS OF THE BATTERY SAFETY AND, AND, UH, UM, UH, TOM GAVE US A LOT OF INFORMATION TODAY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOW LOOK AT THE REST OF THE SITE.
AND PART OF THE SITE WHEN YOU HAD TWO WAYS OF, UH, OF, OF GETTING THE CABLE FROM, UM, THE POWER, THE BATTERY SOURCE DOWN TO 2 87.
ONE WAS, UH, UH, ABOVE GROUND POLE AND THE OTHER WAS UNDERGROUND.
UH, AND YOU INDICATED THE PREFERRED METHOD WAS, WHY IS THAT YOUR, THE PREFERRED METHOD? WELL, LET, I'M SORRY.
JUST, JUST WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY, 'CAUSE AGAIN, JUST SO EVERYONE, UH, KNOWS THIS, THIS PROJECT IS, IS, IS IN TWO JURISDICTIONS.
SO THE MAJOR COMPONENT OF IT IS IN GREENBERG, WHICH FROM MY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND IN REVIEWING THE PLANS, AND JOHN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT EVERYTHING ON THE GREENBERG PORTION OF THIS PROJECT IS UNDERGROUND.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 100% CORRECT.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ABOVE GROUND WOULD BE THE BATTERIES THEMSELVES.
AND, UH, WHAT I'M DRAWING HERE ON MY SCREEN RIGHT NOW, THIS BIG RED LINE, THIS IS THE TOWN LINE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A COMPLICATED PERMITTING PROCESS.
UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, WHICH IS WHY I GAVE IT A A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW, WOULD BE IN THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THAT ANYWAY? YES.
BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH WE BY, UH, UH, THERE'S A ISSUE OF JURISDICTION.
WHO COULD, UH, UH, IS IT UP TO ELMSWORTH TO MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION? WELL, I GUESS IT'S IN ELMSWORTH IS THEIR FINAL DECISION, BUT WE CAN NEVERTHELESS, NEVERTHELESS GIVE OUR OPINION IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
SO IN THAT SENSE, SEEING HOW WE HAVE TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD, I THINK DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT THAT TABLE IS ABOVE GROUND OR UNDERGROUND IS A VALID POINT OF DISCUSSION BY THIS BOARD.
AND SO, AGAIN, I ASKED THE QUESTION MM-HMM.
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ABOUT DIGGING UP, UH, DIGGING UP THE GOLF COURSE PER SE.IT IS AWAY FROM THE GOLF COURSE.
IT'S ONLY 18 INCHES BELOW SURFACE.
AND, AND LIKE I SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE BEDROCK, 18 INCHES IS THE VERY SIMPLE OPERATION FOR A BACKHOE JUST TO DIG A TREND 18 INCHES DEEP.
SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW, WHY IS THE OVERHEAD CABLE PREFERABLE? OKAY.
UH, SO I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THAT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
UM, STARTING AT THE CONNECTION LOCATION, WHICH IS AT THE CONED SUBSTATION, EVERYTHING WOULD BE UNDERGROUND.
WE WOULD HAVE A SWITCHGEAR OPTION.
OUR PREFERRED LOCATION FOR THAT IS ON THE CONED SUBSTATION SIDE THAT IS OVER HERE.
UM, AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR THAT SWITCHGEAR IS, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE NO WOOD SIDE, REGARDLESS, THE CABLES GOING TO THAT WOULD BE 100% UNDERGROUND.
NOW, FROM THIS POINT UP UNTIL NO WOOD ROAD, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, UH, OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA.
EVERYTHING IS, AGAIN, UNDERGROUND, 100%.
THESE OPTIONS EXIST SOLELY TO, TO GIVE ANOTHER, UH, ROUTE AROUND THE, UH, DRIVING RANGE.
WE IDENTIFIED WHEN WE WERE ON SITE THAT THERE IS A FAIRLY LARGE FENCE, UH, NET NETTING, UH, ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY AROUND THE DRIVING RANGE.
AND THERE IS A SIZABLE AREA, WIDTH WISE, WHERE WE COULD ACCESS WITH ABOVEGROUND POLES THAT WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE SITE, WHERE WE, WE COULD TRANSITION FROM BELOW GROUND TO ABOVE GROUND FOR A SMALL STRETCH BEFORE WE TRANSITION AGAIN TO BELOW GROUND.
THIS AGAIN, WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE OFFSITE.
YOU'D ONLY SEE IT FROM THE DRIVING RANGE AND THE GOLF COURSE SITE DIRECTLY.
AND IT WOULD BE BEHIND THE VISUAL BARRIER FENCE, THE, THE NETTING THAT IS THE DRIVING RANGE ITSELF.
UH, SEVERAL REASONS TO DO THIS IS THAT UNFORTUNATELY IT IS NOT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE FROM N E C, WE HAVE TO RUN TWO PARALLEL TRENCHES, UH, BELOW GROUND AND THE AREA THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
SO WE'RE NOT TEARING UP THE ENTIRE GOLF COURSE PARCEL.
UH, THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANTLY SIZED TREES HERE TO INSTALL THIS.
WE WOULD LIKELY, UH, YOU KNOW, INADVERTENTLY TEAR SOME OF THE ROOT SYSTEMS OF THESE TREES UP.
WE DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE THESE TREES AT ALL.
AND IN OUR EYES, WE, WE SAW THIS AS THE PREFERRED OPTION TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THIS WHOLE AREA, NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SPRINKLERS AND CERTAINLY NOT IMPACT THOSE TREES WITH NO, UH, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE WITH REGARDS TO OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES THAT YOU SEE.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT WITH REGARDS TO OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL ON THE SITE, THERE ARE ALREADY OVERHEAD UTILITY POLES OF A SIMILAR SIZE ALL THE WAY UP NORWOOD ROAD.
UH, SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO BLEND IT IN WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THAT.
SO THAT, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO WHY WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR JUST THIS SMALL PIECE OVER OVERHEAD LINES? YEAH, YOU, YOU GAVE ME YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CONSIDERATION WHY IT'S BEING DONE.
UM, UH, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IS THAT WHEN YOU COME UP ON THE, THE, UH, OVERHEAD ACROSS 2 87, THERE'S A POLE THERE, AND I, I'M INTERESTED IN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF WHERE THAT POLE, THE BASE OF THAT POLE IS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE ROADWAY.
BECAUSE, UH, IF YOU HAVE A 22 WHEELER TRAVELING AT 60 MILES AN HOUR, THAT'S THE AVERAGE SPEED OF EARTH 22 WHEELERS ALONG, UM, 2 87, AND IT RUNS OVER THE, OR, UH, THE ROAD AND RUN TOWARDS THAT, UH, UM, POLE.
WHAT'S THE, IS THAT, IS THAT POLE UPHILL OF THE ROAD? IS IT DOWNHILL OF THE ROAD? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TOPOGRAPHY AND WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF A 18 WHEEL OF TAKING OUT THAT POLE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TELEPHONE POLE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO TRANSITION AT THE END OF THE DRIVING RANGE? YEAH.
SO THE ONE THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN, THE ONE THAT'S VISUALLY OVER THAT WOULD BE VISUALLY OVER HERE.
NOT, NOT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THERE'S NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE, THE AREA THAT WOULD BE NEXT TO OUR SWITCH GEAR LOCATION, YES.
JUST MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, I GUESS YOU WERE POINTING TO, IF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2 87, 2 87, THAT'S, WE COULD HAVE TWO POLES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD? NO, NO, NO.
WE, WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT BELOW GROUND.
WE WOULD BE DIRECTIONALLY BORING UNDERNEATH 2 87.
THERE WILL BE NO ELECTRICAL LINES GOING ACROSS 2 87.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS, I, I I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO.
SO THAT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, UH, ABOVE GROUND WIRING OVER 2 87.
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IS UNDER, UNDER.I THOUGHT I SAW IN, IN SOME CORRESPONDENCE, OR MAYBE I MISREAD IT, THAT THERE WAS A POLL OR A STATEMENT WAS MADE THERE.
THERE'LL BE TWO POLLS THAT YOU, EXCUSE ME, GO OVER 2 87, BUT JUST SAYING YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT, YOU'RE GOING UNDERGROUND.
ANYTHING ON OUR PLANS THAT SHOWS THE, THE, THE LINE TYPE WITH AN E IS UNDERGROUND ELECTRICAL, UH, AND THEN EVERYTHING WITH AN OH, AS YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS IF ANYBODY CAN SEE MY SCREEN, UH, THE, OH, THIS IS THE OVERHEAD PORTION HERE THAT WRAPS SOLELY AROUND THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE DRIVING RANGE.
WE ARE NOT PROPOSING OVERHEAD LINES AT ANY OTHER POINT IN THIS SITE.
IT IS SOLELY NEAR THE DRIVING RANGE.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? ANY, UH, ANY, UH, ANY OTHER
UH, WE DID REFER THE APPLICATION TO THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
UH, WE DID HEAR BACK, UM, THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE, THERE WILL BE A PROCESS IN ELMSFORD, OF COURSE, UM, THEY DID COMMENT THAT, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR A FIRE HYDRANT IN THE VICINITY OF THE FENCED IN AREA SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND I KNOW THAT, UH, WE JUST GOT THAT COMMENT TODAY.
SO I FORWARDED THAT TO, UH, MR. RETTA WHO THANK, INDICATED THEY WILL CONSIDER THAT.
SO WE WILL SET UP A SITE VISIT WITH THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, WORK OUT AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR THAT, FOR, FOR HYDRANT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, GARY, GO AHEAD.
IT'S ELMSFORD, IT'S ELMSFORD FIRE THAT WILL BE, UM, AT NORWOOD THERE? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT THAT, UM, THE TOWN BOARD ALSO DECLARED ITS INTENT TO SERVE AS LEAD AGENCY.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT.
UM, BEFORE CLOSING THE DISCUSSION ON THIS FIFTH EVENING, WAS THERE ANY FURTHER PRESENTATION THAT THE APPLICANT WAS GONNA MAKE? I WASN'T SURE OF THAT.
THE, THE ONLY COMMENT, UH, UH, WE STARTED, WE STARTED THE EVENING ABOUT THE, THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND, AND AGAIN, NOT TO GET INTO A, A, A LEGAL DISCUSSION, BUT JUST SO YOU, YOU ARE ALL AWARE, AS PART OF OUR APPLICATION FOR THE RECORD, WE DID SUBMIT, UM, A, A, A LEGAL LETTER FROM STRATA'S OUTSIDE COUNSEL, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THAT ISSUE.
UH, IT'S IN THE HANDS OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I, AND IT IS PART OF OUR PACKET.
SO WITH RESPECT TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIAL PERMIT IN SECTION 2 85 DASH TEN FOUR B, UH, WE DO ADDRESS THAT.
SO I JUST WOULD REFER YOU ALL TO THAT PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE, WHICH WE ATTACHED IN OUR LETTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE, THE, THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, FORGET ABOUT THAT, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE THAT IT WAS IN THE PACKAGE.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LOOK THAT, THAT YOU SAID FROM THE FIRM? THE FIRM THAT JUST WE'RE AWARE OF THAT? UH, THANK YOU.
AS I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, FIRST WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE SITE DISCUSSION AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, UM, THE POSITION OF THE PLANNING BOARD IN TERMS OF THE SITE.
AND, UH, AND THE SECOND DISCUSSION IS THE ISSUE OF, UH, OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I I DIDN'T FORGET IT.
I'M TOO, YEAH, I JUST WANT, I JUST WANTED YOU, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW I DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT IT, THAT'S ALL.
SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS WE USE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE SITE, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE SPECIAL PERMIT, AND THEN FROM THERE, WE, UH, DEVELOP OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO THAT'S HOW I WANT TO PROCEED.
SO LET'S JUST TREAT THIS AS A STRAIGHTFORWARD FOR THIS SECTION, A STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, UH, UM, UH, ISSUE OF, UH, A STEEP SLOPE AND, AND WETLAND AND, AND, AND, AND DETERMINE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE NEED TO GO, UH, BEFORE WE CAN, UH, DECIDE, UH, HOW WE COULD TREAT THIS APPLICATION.
UH, THE FIRST THING WE SHOULD BE DOING IS THE TOWN HAS, UH, HAS THE, IS PROPOSING THAT THEY BE THE LEAD, UM, THE LEAD AGENCY ON THIS, UNLESS THERE IS, UH, UH, OBJECTION FROM THE BOARD WHY THE TOWN SHOULD NOT BE THE LEAD AGENCY.
I'LL ENTERTAIN, UH, A MOTION TO, UH, EXPRESS NO OPPOSITION TO THE TOWN BEING THE LEAD AGENCY ON THIS PROJECT.
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SO MOVED.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YEAH, I SECOND FAVOR.
SO THE, OKAY, SO NOW, UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT, UH, UH, THAT WE, WE STILL NEED.
WE, WE WANT THE, WE WANT THE, THE, THE SAFETY DATA, UH, ON THIS, UM, THE BATTERY PACK.
UH, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SAFETY DATA ON THERE THAT THE, THAT SUPPORT THE SAFETY OF THE, THE TESLA BATTERIES.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, UH, NOISE.
UH, I, I BELIEVE YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THE NOISE, IF ANY, NOISE GENERATION.
UH, YOU, THIS HAS TO GO BEFORE WE NEED A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE C A C, UH, BEFORE WE COULD, UH, MAKE OUR DETERMINATION.
UM, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I HAVE ONE OTHER OTHER QUESTION.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TREES ARE TAKING DOWN THE NUMBER ONE ONES.
THEY WERE REPLACING AARON UNDER THE TREE LAW, EVEN IF THEY CAN'T PUT REPLACE IN KIND ON THE PROPERTY, UH, IS WHAT THEY HAVE THERE NOW SUFFICIENT TO, TO, UH, SATISFY THE TREE LAW.
SO THE NEW LAW HASN'T QUITE TAKEN EFFECT YET.
UM, SO THEY'RE STILL OPERATING UNDER THE OLD LAW, UM, UNDER THE OLD LAW.
WHAT IT DOESN'T REALLY GET INTO, YOU KNOW, A ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT OR ANY SORT OF REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT IN THAT REGARD.
UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THIS BOARD, AS WELL AS THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK TO HAVE THE APPLICANT COORDINATE WITH THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB IN PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FENCED IN AREA.
TO ENHANCE THAT BUFFER AREA THROUGH LOW LEVEL AS WELL AS LARGER GROWING TREES, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
UM, IF THE NEW LAW WERE IN EFFECT, THEN WE WOULD BE TAKING A DIFFERENT LOOK AT IT.
AND I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD MEET THAT, THAT THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT, REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK IN ON THAT.
SO, MR. SKIER, WE, WE NEED A LANDSCAPE, BUT WE NEED YOU TO LOOK AT A BEEF DEPTH LA LANDSCAPING PLAN PER WHAT MR. SCHMIDT HAS JUST SUGGESTED AS PART OF, UH, OUR SITE PLAN REVIEW, PLEASE.
ARE THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, THAT, UH, THAT APPLICANT NEEDS TO DO? UH, UH, SO THEY COULD COME BACK INTO A WORK SESSION AND WE COULD, UH, MAKE A DECISION ON THE, THE SITE PLAN? I, I JUST, UH, AARON, I, I'D LIKE TO YOU TO, UPON, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT RELATE TO THE WATERCOURSE THAT ARE STEEP SLOPES HERE THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT? WE HAVE OF THE BUFFER, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I THOUGHT THE, DID A THOROUGH JOB EXPLAINING THE DISTURBANCE TO STEEP SLOPES.
THE IN PROPOSED INSTALLATION OF THE RETAINING WALL IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, IT AT THE, UH, SOUTHEAST CORNER.
UH, FURTHER, THEY DID DISCUSS, UH, WETLAND BUFFER IMPACTS AND THE FACT THAT THEY'LL BE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BUFFER THROUGH THE REMOVAL OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND, AND REFUSE AND, AND PILES OF DEBRIS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I THINK YOU'RE INFORMED ON THAT IT WILL ULTIMATELY, THE, THE WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT WILL BE ROUTED TO THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING BOARD AT A FUTURE TIME WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THOSE, UH, THE SLOPES AND THE WETLANDS PERMITS AS WELL.
AND, AND, AND THE APPLICANT ALSO, UM, UH, UH, INDICATED IT, IT GAVE AN OUTLINE OF REASONS WHY, UH, THE, THEY FEEL THAT THE OVERHEAD SECTION IS MORE PRACTICAL.
I, I, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE A ONE PAGE OUTLINE FOR THE RECORD AND WHY YOU, WHY TO JUSTIFY THAT, UH, THAT DECISION, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL ALSO.
UM, WITH THAT, WITH THAT, OKAY.
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THEN ONCE, I THINK ONCE WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION, I THINK THAT WILL THEN BE, UH, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE TIME TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON THE, THE SPECIAL PERMIT, BECAUSE I SAID I WANT TO KEEP THESE, THESE TWO THINGS SEPARATE.AND, UM, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU BE READY TO COME BACK TO ANOTHER WORK SPECIAL? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I'M HOPING TO COME BACK, UH, AT YOUR NEXT MEETING TO HOPEFULLY GET ALL THIS INFORMATION TO AARON AND, AND, AND, UM, THE TOWN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
AND WE, WE'D LIKE TO HOPEFULLY, UH, CONTINUE THIS TO YOUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO STAFF AND, AND YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. RETTA, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD MAKE SUBMISSION, UH, BY NEXT WEDNESDAY, THE 28TH CLOSE OF BUSINESS? YES, WE COULD DO THAT.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT HEAVY OF AN AGENDA, SO I'D LEAVE IT UP TO THE CHAIRPERSON TO INDICATE PROVIDED YEAH, WE COULD PUT THAT ON.
AND, UH, AND WE ALSO, IF WE, UH, FEEL COMFORTABLE, UH, WITH THAT, THEN WE COULD GO INTO A MORE DETAILED DISCUSSION ON THE SPECIAL PERMIT AND, AND THEN FROM THERE, MAKE AN APPROPRIATE RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
WE HAVE OUR HOMEWORK AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING IT TO YOU AND SEEING YOU ALL AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
RIGHT NOW THE NEXT THING IS THAT WE'LL BE GOING INTO, UM, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING OF, UH, OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
UM, DEPUTY, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHMIT, COULD YOU CALL, UM, THE ROLE, PLEASE? SURE.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, BARBARA'S ALL SET FOR US, RIGHT, BARBARA? GREAT.
SO, UH, FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS CASE NUMBER PB 19 DASH 12 R M C DEVELOPMENT COMPANY L L C FIVE 70 TO ROAD.
IT'S DESIGNED FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT, UM, CAN CERTAINLY HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
HOWEVER, BEING THAT IT'S A SUBDIVISION, BEFORE YOU OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, I, I WANTED TO INFORM THE BOARD THAT, UH, WE DID PREPARE A DRAFT NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION.
THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY AS AN UNLISTED ACTION UNDER SEEKER, AND, UH, IF THERE WEREN'T ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS ON THE, ON THE DRAFT DETERMINATION, I WOULD, UH, REQUEST THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER VOTING ON THOSE TWO ITEMS, UH, PRIOR TO OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS IS AN UNLISTED ACTION UNDER SEEKER.
OPPOSED? UM, THE OTHER, UH, YOU STILL HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DECLARATION A COPY OF THE, OF THE NECK DECK ON, ON THIS APPLICATION CV 1912.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT DECK? IF NOT, UNSTAINED A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE, THE NEXT DECK.
UH, WE COULD THEN CALL ON THE APPLICANT FOR CASE
DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE? YES.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM OF CUTTING AND FADER ON BEHALF OF R M C DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, L L C AS THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR THIS, UH, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION AS, UH, WAS MENTIONED AT THE PREVIOUS,
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UH, LAST MONTH'S WORK SESSION MEETING.WHEN THE PLANNING BOARD, THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS SIMPLY, UH, A SUBDIVISION OF THE EXISTING LOT TO, WHICH IS LOCATED IN BOTH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, WISHES TO SUBDIVIDE OFF THE PORTION OF THE LOT THAT IS IN THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
THERE IS NO NEW DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FOR, UH, EITHER PROPERTY.
THERE IS AN EXISTING SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING WITH AN ASSOCIATED PARKING LOT AT THE PREMISES.
AND, AND AS I MENTIONED, NO NEW DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED.
UM, A SURVEY HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
THERE ARE NO NEED FOR ANY VARIANCES.
UM, THERE ARE EXISTING VARIANCES THAT WERE GRANTED WITH THE PROPERTY, BUT THE SUBDIVISION HAS NO EFFECT ON ANY OF THAT.
ARE THERE ANY
UH, JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE, THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TWO PARCELS ARE IN RED AND THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION LINE IS SHOWN IN GREEN.
UH, THIS WOULD LINE UP, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. COHEN, WITH THE CURRENT TAX LOT LAYOUT.
UH, THIS LOT BEING IN THE VILLAGE AND THIS LOT BEING WITHIN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS REGARDING THIS, UH, UM, REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION? IF NOT, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO.
UM, THEN I WILL PROPOSE THAT, UH, UH, WITH NO OTHER COMMENTS, I PROPOSED THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TO WHAT THAT WOULD'VE BE.
DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL? SO MOVED.
THANK YOU, MR. TO ADD OUR NEXT, UH, UH, MEETING.
WE WILL, UM, UH, ISSUE A DECISION.
RIGHT, UH, ON THAT APPLICATION IS CASE P P PP 1625 HEAD, OUR SUBDIVISION.
UH, THIS, UH, UH, UH, DA UH, DAVID FREE, UH, SENT SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT.
IT WAS INVOLVED IN, UH, IN, UH, UH, SOME LEGAL ISSUE.
SO NOTHING WAS RE RE THEY DIDN'T GO FORWARD, BUT WE DID DO SEEKER ON THIS.
AND IT IS THE UNLISTED, UH, ACTION AND A NEG DECK.
SO NOW THAT I BELIEVE THOSE LEGAL ISSUES WERE RESOLVED.
AND SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO TELL US TO UPDATE US ON WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE AND, AND WHERE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION.
SO AARON, YOU HAD SOMETHING? YES.
THANK YOU, CHAIR PERSON, SIMON.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT I'VE NOTIFIED MR. CSOR TO WALK THE BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH A FAIRLY THOROUGH OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT, BEING THAT IT'S BEEN SOME TIME SINCE THIS PROJECT WAS LAST BEFORE US, WE DO HAVE SOME NEWER MEMBERS WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT AT ALL FURTHER.
UM, I DID WANT TO JUST NOTE THAT, UH, THE AREA VARIANCES REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT WERE APPROVED BY THE ZONING BOARD IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, FOLLOWING THE PLANNING BOARD'S, UH, ADOPTION OF THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. SINO AT THIS TIME.
UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
SO I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN, I GUESS, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO DO THAT.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, ELLIOT, YOUR NAME AND WHO YOU'RE WITH FOR THE, UH, ELLIOT SINOR ENGINEER, SURVEYOR, GABRIELI SINOR, UH, AND HART CENTRAL AVENUE IN HARTSDALE.
UM, SO LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE, ALL RIGHT.
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SO THIS IS THE, UH, SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.UH, THERE WAS A SERIES OF LOTS HERE, UM, A COUPLE OF A DOZEN OR SO, 25 FOOT LOTS, UH, MOST OF WHICH WERE PURCHASED FROM THE TOWN AT ONE OF THEIR TAX AUCTIONS.
THERE WAS THREE LOTS IN HERE THAT WERE OWNED BY A WOMAN IN CALIFORNIA WHO WAS SUBSEQUENTLY SOLD THEM TO MR. TBA.
UM, AND THAT'S WHO WE HAD SOME, UH, LEGAL BATTLES WITH.
THEIR ACCESS IS OFF OF SUN RIVER ROAD, WHICH IS DOWN HERE.
THEY HAD BUILT ACROSS ALMOST THE ENTIRE RIGHT OF WAY, A PLAY AREA AND METAL, UH, YOU KNOW, A CHAIN LINK FENCE AND A PLAY AREA.
UH, THEY HAVE SINCE REMOVED MOST OF THAT UP TO THIS LINE.
SO THIS, UH, SO THIS METAL FENCE IS NOW, UM, GOES JUST BEFORE THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD.
THIS IS A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S ON A SUBDIVISION MAP.
UH, THIS IS THE 25 FOOT CENTER LINE, UH, THAT, UH, UH, WE WENT THROUGH SOME LEGAL ISSUES ABOUT WHO GETS TO USE IT, ET CETERA.
UH, THEY HAVE SINCE MOVED THEIR, UM, THEIR METAL FENCE AND HAVE DISCONTINUED THEIR, UM, LAWSUITS OF, UH, AGAINST, UH, ADVERSE POSSESSION.
UM, SO GOING BACK TO, UH, TO THIS, SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO, TO BUILD, UM, OOPS, UNDO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN UNDO THAT.
ANYWAY, SO WHAT WE HAVE IS, THIS IS WINSOME ROAD COMING DOWN TO THIS PAPER STREET, WHICH WAS VAN COTTA AVENUE ON A SUBDIVISION MAP.
UM, WE THEN, LEMME JUST GRAB THAT.
UM, WE THEN, UH, PROPOSING TO BUILD A 20 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY IN THE 25 FOOT RI, UM, HALF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES ABOUT OWNING UP TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD, THAT TYPE OF THING.
WE'RE SHOWING, UH, THREE NEW HOUSES TO BE BUILT.
UM, THIS, UH, SHADED AREA IS ESSENTIALLY A FIRE TURNAROUND THAT WAS APPROVED BY, UM, IT'S IN A STATE CODE FOR FIRE ACCESS, AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS DRIVEWAY FOR THIS LOT WILL COME OFF OF THAT FIRE ACCESS, ALTHOUGH THERE IS ROOM HERE, UM, TO, FOR, FOR PLOWING TO COME IN AND STORE THE SNOW AT THE END OF THE ROAD.
THAT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH ANYTHING.
UH, WE'RE IN A, UM, I THINK WE'RE IN A 10,000 OR 7,500 SQUARE FOOT ZONE.
UM, BUT IN ANY EVENT, UM, OUR LOTS ARE WELL OVER THE REQUIRED SIZE.
UM, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SUBDIVISION MAP TO, UH, SEE WHAT, SO, UH, THIS LOT IS TEN FOUR.
THIS ONE'S TEN SEVEN, AND THIS ONE IS A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, UM, ALL ABOVE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I THINK THAT THE, UH, EVERYTHING IS A HUNDRED FEET WIDE, A HUNDRED FEET WIDE.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, IS, UH, 140 FEET AT THE, AT THE FRONTAGE.
UM, AS, AS AARON HAD SAID, WE DID APPLY FOR, UH, SEVERAL VARIANCES FROM SECTION 2 85, 39, UM, DECREASE THE REQUIRED STREET FRONTAGE FROM 25 FEET TO ZERO ON EACH OF THE LOTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, SUBDIVISION.
UM, ALSO, UM, UH, VARIANCES FOR, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A VARIANCE, BUT IT'S NOT A TOWN STANDARD ROAD.
WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING A, UH, A 20, A 20 FOOT WIDE PRO, UH, PAVEMENT.
UM, AND, UH, UH, THAT WAS WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE HAVE, UH, UM, ALL THREE HOUSES ARE, UH, ARE WITHIN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, MEANING ALL OF OUR REQUIRED SETBACKS.
UM, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? WE DO HAVE, UH, UM, SOME, UH, DRAINAGE.
SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN, ALL RIGHT.
I THINK THIS ONE WILL WORK, UM, BETTER.
UM, SO EACH LOT, EACH HOUSE HAS THEIR ONSITE DRAINAGE SYSTEM TO TAKE CARE OF THE, THE, UH, EXCESS STORM WATER ON EACH, UH, OF THE PROPERTIES.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME STORM WATER, UH, DETENTION UNDER THE ROADWAY, UM, FOR THE ROADWAY ITSELF.
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UM, SO WIND SUM IS A, WYNDHAM IS A, UH, CURRENTLY A ROAD, UM, THAT GIVES ACCESS TO THE HOUSES ON EACH SIDE OF THE STREET.I THINK THERE'S, UM, THERE'S FOUR HOUSES, TWO ON EACH SIDE.
I THINK THE ONLY TWO HOUSES ACCESS WYNDHAM.
I THINK THE OTHER TWO HOUSES AT, UM, THE, THE STREET ABOVE.
I'M NOT QUITE IF IF ONE OF THEM, MAYBE THERE'S THREE HOUSES.
UM, BUT, UH, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE EXTENDING THE WATER MAIN.
UH, THE WATER MAIN IS GONNA EXTEND THROUGH THE ENTIRE STREET TO A, UH, BLOW OFF AT THE END.
UH, AND THE SEWER LINES ARE COMING UP, UH, ARE A PUMP SYSTEM.
UH, THE SEWER IS ON THE, UH, STREET ABOVE, UH, WOODLANDS.
AND SO WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUAL, UH, PUMP SYSTEMS THAT ARE GONNA GO UP THIS, UH, EASEMENT, UH, TO WIND, UH, WOODLANDS, TO PROVIDE SEWER.
UH, THERE CURRENTLY IS ELECTRICAL SERVICE COMING DOWN, UH, UH, A VAN COTT THAT GIVES, UH, UM, POWER TO THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET AND WILL PROVIDE FOR, FOR OUR POWER AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS THE TREE REMOVAL AND PLANTING PLAN.
WE ARE REMOVING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES, UM, MOST OF WHICH ARE IN, IN, UH, BEST SHAPE.
AND THEN PROVIDING, UH, PLANTING PLANS, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE RESIDENCES.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, MAY BE IT.
UM, THE FIRE ACCESS AREA IS AN, AN EASEMENT, UM, TO THE TOWN, UH, AND FOR EMERGENCY USE, UM, WE HAVE SOME EARTHWORK INFORMATION HERE IN TERMS OF THE CUT AND FILLS.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK THAT IS ABOUT IT.
UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
I, I DO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MR. SINOR.
UM, ONE I THINK THAT WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY IN, IN OUR WORK SESSIONS WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT MOVES THROUGH A PORTION OF THE SITE YEP.
AND THE BUFFER IS SHOWN IN THE DARK BLUE.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL, UM, TO PICK UP THE WATER THAT COMES THROUGH THE REAR YARDS OF THE PROPERTIES.
UH, I GUESS THAT'S TO THE EAST OR UP SLOPE AND KIND OF ROUTE THEM ROUTED AROUND AND THEN TIE IT BACK IN, RIGHT? SO, IS THAT CORRECT? SO, YES.
UM, THIS, SO AS LIKE AS AARON SAYS, UM, OR I SHOULD SAW MR. DUQUE BECAUSE I'M MR. CINO
I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS, UM, THE NEIGHBOR HAD TALKED ABOUT DURING THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT, UM, THEY DID DRAINAGE WORK ON A SITE TO CHANNEL THE WATER.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS, UH, WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY CREATED IT, IT DID SHOW UP ON, IT DIDN'T SHOW UP ON THE EARLIER WORK.
IT SHOWED UP ON SOME SITE VISITS THAT WE DID.
UH, WE DID GO TO THE, UH, CONSERVATION BOARD, AND THEY DID GRANT US, UH, THEY DID MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AND ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING US TO DO WHAT IT IS THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO, UH, TO, TO PIPE THAT OR TO, TO, UH, CHANGE THE LOCATION.
SO, AS AARON SAID, WE HAVE ACROSS, WE, THE AREA UP TO, UM, WOODLANDS IS VERY STEEPED DOWN.
AND SO WHAT WE WERE DOING, UM, I'LL HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT PLAN, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ESSENTIALLY IS CREATING A BERM AND A SWALE TO BRING, UH, THE WATER TO THE MIDDLE HERE AND THEN DOWN AND OUTLET IT, UH, PRETTY MUCH IN THE SAME PLACE AS IT OUTLETS.
NOW, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING A WALL AT THIS POINT, AND SO IT WILL OUTLET THROUGH THE WALL INTO THE EXISTING DRAINAGE DITCH.
UH, LET'S SEE IF IT SHOWS UP ON, UH, ALRIGHT.
UH, RIGHT, SO HERE'S THE, UH, HERE'S THE DRAINAGE.
WELL, IT'S A PERFORATED PIPE COMING DOWN AND THEN COMING ACROSS, UH, TO KOTT IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS THEN THE, THIS DATA LINE HERE IS THAT DRAINAGE DITCH.
SO IT EMPTIES INTO THE DRAINAGE DITCH, UH, RIGHT IN THIS AREA.
UM, THEN THERE'S A NATURAL SWALE, UM, THAT WE'RE PREPARING, UH, FOR THE, JUST FOR THE BACKYARD TO BRING THE WATER AROUND, UM, THAT WAY AS WELL.
A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, UM, PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH THE BOARD AND WORK SESSION WAS, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPOSED ROADWAY TERMINATION, WHICH AS MR. CINO INDICATED, WAS REVIEWED BY FAIRVIEW FIRE,
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UH, AND DEEMED ADEQUATE.IT DOES MEET NEW YORK STATE FIRE CODE, BUT THEY HAVE PROPOSED AN EMERGENCY ACCESS EASEMENT, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE PINK BOX.
IT HAS MEETS AND BOUNDS, IT IS ON THE PLAT AS WELL.
UM, FURTHER, THEY, THEY DID EXTEND THE END OR THE TERMINATION OF KOTT BEYOND THAT EDGE SO THAT THERE COULD BE SUFFICIENT, UM, SNOW STORAGE AT THE END OF THE ROAD.
UM, SO THAT WAS REVIEWED AS WELL.
UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP, UH, DURING THE WORK SESSIONS.
UH, LASTLY, UH, I JUST WANTED, IF YOU WOULD, TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE SUBDIVISION PLATT.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAD SEEN THAT, AND WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT, DO YOU HAVE THE PLATT OR THE PLANS, OR IS IT JUST ON THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLANS, WHICH SHOW THE, UM, THE ROADWAY AT 20 FEET WIDE? WELL, WE DO SHOW, UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, THE, PART OF THE, THE SUBMISSION AND I DID NOT, UH, INCLUDE HERE, OR, OR, OR, OR HAVE PDFS OF, IS THE, UM, THE DETAIL SHEETS.
UH, I GUESS THEY'RE PROUD OF THIS P D F, BUT THIS IS THE, THIS I THINK IS A, THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION PLATT? YES, THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION PLATT HERE.
UM, SO IT SHOWS THE ACCESS EASEMENT THERE, THE THREE LOTS.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA JUMP IN HERE FOR A SECOND.
SO, UH, I HAD ASKED AARON FOR THAT.
SO WHAT I WANT TO SEE, UH, AND YOU MAY HAVE HAD IT, BUT I DON'T, UH, BUT YOU DIDN'T DISPLAY IT, IS WITH THIS LINE DOWN, UH, THAT'S, UH, THE BOUNDARY NOW BETWEEN YOU AND THE NEIGHBOR, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE APPROPRIATE MEETS AND BOUNDS, UM, UH, CALLED OUT ON THAT.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEND IT TO US AFTERWARDS IF YOU CAN'T, UH, FIND US.
YEAH, IT'S NOT, UH, WE DID NOT, WE DID NOT, UM, DO THAT AS OF YET.
THIS
YOU JUST, YOU CAN SEND IT, UH, UH, TOMORROW.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT THERE.
'CAUSE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, UH, MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD, UM, IS THAT, UH, GONNA BE H O A, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN H O A, THERE IS GONNA BE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN, UH, THE THREE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, THAT'S NOT, UH, LARGE ENOUGH TO REQUIRE AN H O A AND HOAS ARE SOMEWHAT, AS I'VE BEEN TOLD, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT CUMBERSOME.
I PERSONALLY LIVE ON A PRIVATE ROAD WITH SIX OTHER PEOPLE, AND, UH, WE SPLIT, UH, SPLIT THE COST OF CAVING AND SNOW REMOVAL, ET CETERA.
UM, THIS IS A DRAWING THAT DOES SHOW THE 20, THE 20 FOOT, UH, ROAD WIDTH HERE.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WAS, UM, BROUGHT UP BY BOTH, I BELIEVE THE FIRE CHIEF AS WELL AS OUR, UH, GREENBERG TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, WAS THE FACT THAT, UM, DUE TO THE NARROWNESS OF THE ROAD, THAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THERE BE ONLY, UM, ON STREET PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, UM, YES.
TO PERMIT, YOU KNOW, VEHICLES TO ACCESS THE PROPERTIES IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AS WELL.
UH, IT WAS, UM, UH, WE, AND WE CAN, UH, PLACE SOME SIGNS IN HERE.
WE WERE, UH, THINKING THAT THE, UH, THE NEAR SIDE, THE HOUSE SIDE OF THE STREET WOULD, UH, MAY NOT HAVE, UH, PARKING ON THAT SIDE TO AFFORD MORE PARKING, UH, FOR GUESTS AND THINGS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET.
SO THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON THE, UM, EAST SIDE, I GUESS ON THE SIDE, AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINES? NO, THE SIDE WITH, UH, THE SIDE WITH THE HOUSES ON THIS SIDE.
HAVE ANY, IF I, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, AND I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THIS WHILE THE, IF THE BOARD WAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, I COULD FOLLOW UP WITHIN THE WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD.
I WANT TO SAY THAT THE RECOMMENDATION, EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD ALLOW FOR LESS ON STREET PARKING, WAS THAT, UH, IT BE ON THE, THE SIDE WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
BECAUSE, UH, THAT WILL FACILITATE THE, UH, ENTERING AND EXITING THE DRIVEWAY.
OF COURSE, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT.
SO IT SHOULD BE, UH, NO PARK AND OPPOSITE THE HOME.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHATEVER THE TRAFFIC AND POLICE
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FIRE WOULD REQUIRE.AND, AND THE OTHER POINT I HAVE, UM, I HAVE A, I I'M SORRY.
YOU DON'T HAVE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
YOU KNOW, WHAT GUARANTEES THAT YOU HAVE THAT THAT PLACE WILL BE, UH, UH, SHOVELED AND, AND EACH PROPERTY OWNER WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS, YOU GET OBNOXIOUS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I'M NOT PAYING BECAUSE THE OTHER, THE GUY IN BACK OF ME AND THE GUY IN FRONT OF ME HAS TO PAY THE, UH, THE ROAD TO GET IN.
SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR ME TO PAY ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION WOULD HAVE CERTAIN RULES.
SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED HOW YOU'RE GONNA GUARANTEE THAT THAT ROAD WILL BE PLOW.
WELL, I MEAN, I, LIKE I SAID, I LIVE ON, UH, I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF A, UH, A PRIVATE ROAD, SIX FAMILIES, AND, AND THE TURNOVER, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE, UH, 92, I THINK.
AND, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME TURNOVER AND NOBODY, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ROAD'S BEEN MAINTAINED.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A NICE ROAD, UH, THAT WE, WE'VE PAVED IT TWICE.
WE DO SNOW REMOVAL EVERY, EVERY, UH, OKAY.
AND I DON'T FIND THAT THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEM PERSONALLY, UM, IN MY PERSONAL SITUATION,
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A FILED COVENANT AS THAT MUCH AMOUNT THAT WOULD, UH, BE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S EQUAL OR, OR ONE, ONE GUY PAYS MORE THAN THE OTHER.
UM, THAT'LL BE UP TO THE OWNER, BUT IT'S A DEEDED.
IT'LL BE RECORDED AS PART OF THE DEEDED.
PERCENTAGE IS RECORDED AS PART OF MY DEEDED.
HOW DO YOU ENFORCE A NO PARKING? NO PARKING ON A PRIVATE STREET, UH, BUILDING.
INSPECTOR'S GONNA GO OUT AND, UH, CHECK WHEN THEY'RE, WELL, IF THEY'RE COMPLAINTS, OKAY, CAN THEY ACTUALLY LEGALLY ENFORCE SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY? I APPROVAL? YEAH.
IF IT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, IT CAN BE ENFORCED.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IF WE HAD A PUBLIC STREET HERE.
WE JUST HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS? UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ONE FROM THE PUBLIC IF THERE'S NOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? WALTER, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, THERE WAS A LITTLE SLIVER OF THE LAND THAT GOES FROM THIS PROPERTY TO THE WOODLAND.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? BECAUSE IN YOUR PLAN YOU ARE NOT SHOWING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, IT'S PART OF THIS LOT ONE? YEAH.
OH, SO, SO HERE IT'S, UH, IT'S HERE.
SO IT'S OWNED BY, SO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT GOES UP TO, UH, WOODLAND IS OWNED BY LOT ONE.
SO THIS LOT, THIS, THIS AREA HAS TO CHANGE TO INCLUDE THAT AREA.
OH, SO IT IS, SO IT IS MORE THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET THEN? YEAH.
IT'LL BE, UM, MORE THAN, YEAH.
50 BY ANOTHER HUNDRED, ANOTHER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S GONNA BE ALMOST 15,000 FEET.
AND IT, AND IT DOES HAVE THE EASEMENT FOR THE UTILITIES, UH, THE SEWER GOING THROUGH FOR EACH OF THE THREE LOFTS.
THIS MAP, I THINK, HAS TO BE UPDATED SLIGHTLY BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVEN'T WORKED ON IT, UH, IN QUITE A WHILE PENDING THESE OTHER ITEMS. AND, UH, YEAH, THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT MAY OF, UH, 2019, IT WAS LAST UPDATED.
SO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE, ARE MORE RECENT THAT WE GOTTA ADD TO.
BUT, UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A KEY, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT, UH, THAT IF THIS BOARD, UH, GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT, WE WANT TO APPROVE THE UPDATED MAP, SO, MM-HMM.
SO WE NEED THE UPDATED MAP BEFORE WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST TO THE BOARD THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST TO THE BOARD THAT IT BE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN THE WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD.
SO WE COULD EXTEND THE WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD, LET'S SAY THROUGH NEXT THURSDAY, IF YOU WERE TO CLOSE THIS EVENING.
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AND MAYBE WE COULD REQUEST THAT IT BE SUBMITTED NO LATER THAN WEDNESDAY, SO THAT THERE'S AT LEAST AN ADDITIONAL 24 HOURS, UH, FOLLOWING RECEIPT OF THE, THE FI, THE UPDATED PRELIMINARY PLA.THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
I ALSO, YOU HAD ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, CHAIRPERSON SIMON, THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WAS ON MEETING EARLIER, BUT HAD TO LEAVE DUE TO A, UH, ANOTHER, UH, ENGAGEMENT.
BUT HE DID SEND ME, UM, HIS QUESTIONS, WHICH I'D JUST LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
AND COULD YOU STATE HIS NAME TOO? ABSOLUTELY.
HIS NAME IS AL U GOJI, U G O G, UH, J I U G O J I.
AND HE IS FROM 34 WYNDHAM STREET, WHICH IS, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE.
IT'S ACROSS WYNDHAM STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY.
IT'S ACROSS THE, UH, OH, WINDHAM, THE STREET, THE SIDE STREET.
COULD BE ON ONE OF THESE OVER HERE.
COULD YOU, COULD YOU THROW UP THE, THE PLANS FROM THIS POINT TO APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE, THAT GENTLEMAN IS LOCATED? LOCATED? SO HERE IS, UH, THE TAX MAP.
UM, AND SO CAN YOU PAN TO THE LEFT? SO HE'S ONE OF THESE ONE, THESE CAUSES.
THAT ONE, IF YOU COME DOWN WINDHAM STREET, HE'S ON THE, THE LAST ONE ON THE RIGHT.
SO, UH, HIS TWO QUESTIONS ARE, ONE, HOW WILL ALL THE EXCAVATION AFFECT THE STABILITY OF THE EDGE OF MY PROPERTY, WHICH IS HELD FROM SUBSIDING BY A CONCRETE BARRIER CURRENTLY? AND, UH, SO THAT'S ONE.
AND LET ME JUST READ THE OTHER, UH, TWO FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC TO FLOW BACK AND FORTH INTO THE SUBDIVISION.
PARKING WILL HAVE TO BE RESTRICTED TO ONE SIDE ON WYNDHAM STREET.
SO THIS IS THE STREET THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
WYNDHAM, WYNDHAM STREET IS A SHORT STREET THAT IS NOT IDEAL FOR THAT KIND OF PARKING RESTRICTION.
THERE WILL ESSENTIALLY BE NO STREET PARKING ON WYNDHAM STREET, SINCE IT IS NOT EASY TO PARK ANYWHERE ON THE STREET WITHOUT AFFECTING EASE OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO DRIVEWAYS.
HAVE THE ACCESS, HAVE THE ACCESS NEEDS OF CURRENT RESIDENTS BEEN FACTORED INTO THE PLANNING AND DESIGN? UM, YOU READY? ALL RIGHT.
SO, AS FAR AS WYNDHAM STREET NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOME FILLING IN THIS AREA.
SO WE, SO WE'LL ACTUALLY STABILIZE HIS PROPERTY.
OUR ROADWAY GOES UP TO HERE, UH, WHICH THIS IS THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY LINE, AND THIS IS HIS PROPERTY LINE HERE.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY NOT GOING, UH, UH, TOO MUCH, UM, PAST THERE, BUT WE ARE FILLING THAT AREA, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HELP STABILIZE HIS PROPERTY.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, THE WIDTH OF WYNDHAM STREET, WYNDHAM STREET IS AN EXISTING ROAD AND WHATEVER, UH, UH, THERE ONLY SEEM TO BE THE THREE DRIVE, UH, THREE DRIVEWAYS, THIS, UH, THESE TWO HOUSES.
AND I THINK THAT ONE HOUSE FACES WOODLANDS, BUT IT COMES OFF OF, UH, THE, THE DRIVEWAY COMES OFF OF, UH, WYNDHAM.
UM, BUT IT WON'T, IT'LL FUNCTION THE SAME, UH, THE SAME WAY AS IT DOES NOW IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR, THAT OUR ROAD WILL FUNCTION AS A TWO-WAY ROAD FOR THREE HOUSES.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE MUCH OF A CONFLICT.
UH, AGAIN, THERE'S ONLY PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, UM, AND, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.
UM, IT SHOULDN'T CHANGE, UH, UH, THE USE OF IT.
SO WHAT I THINK I CAN DO, UH, BOARD MEMBERS IS I CAN SPEAK WITH TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ABOUT WHAT ARE THE CURRENT, IF ANY, RESTRICTIONS ON PARKING ON WYNDHAM WYNDHAM ROAD? I BELIEVE IT IS, UH, ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE WYNDHAM STREET.
AND IF BASED ON, UH, THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD, IF TRAFFIC AND SAFETY WOULD RECOMMEND ANY MODIFICATIONS TO ANY CURRENT RESTRICTIONS, OR IF THERE ARE NONE, UH, RECOMMEND ANY NEW RESTRICTIONS ALONG WINDHAM.
SO, AND I CAN REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD ON THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THAT? WAS THE ONLY, UH, COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.
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OKAY.IF THERE'S NO, THAT'S CORRECT.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT, UH, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL, WHAT WAS THAT WEDNESDAY? WHAT WAS THAT DATE? THE, I WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, 29TH.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29TH.
UH, UH, AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, AND WE WOULD HAVE AN, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT UPDATED, UH, DRAWINGS WILL BE SUBMITTED.
SO WHEN WE, IT COMES TIME FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION, WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US.
AND YOU'LL ALSO HAVE THE, I'M SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION CLOSE LINE TO THE 29TH.
THE 29TH, NOT THE 25TH SECOND.
THE 29TH WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE WILL GET UPDATED DRAWING AND, UH, AND YOU, UH, UH, UH, WILL GET, UH, UPDATED INFORMATION REGARDING PARKER.
SO WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION, WE WILL HAVE THAT UPDATED INFORMATION.
DO WE NEED A VOTE? WALTER STILL I KNOW, BUT I JUST WANT, UH, MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE HAVE THE VOTE, WE, UH, LAY OUT WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN YOU, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALREADY DID.
THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY ME AND SECONDED BY TOM.
UH, OPPOSE, UH, UH, THEN I MAKE, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, SECTION OF, UH, TONIGHT'S MEETING.
WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER BEFORE YOU DO, BEFORE YOU DO.
SO, UM, CHAIRPERSON SIMON, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY JUST FOR THE APPLICANT, FOR THE BOARD, AND ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, THE BOARD HAS REQ WHILE THE BOARD HAS CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LEFT THE WRITTEN RECORD OPEN THROUGH THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29TH.
THE REQUEST FOR THE APPLICANT'S RESUBMISSION OF THE PLANS WOULD BE BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 28TH.
THERE ARE NO PUBLIC ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO YOU FEEL FREE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SO MOVED.
COR AND JOHANN, YOU OKAY? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION OF, UH, DID I MEET? MEETING IS CLOSED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, GETTING THE INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
AND, AND ALSO, UH, UH, WITH, UM, AS I INDICATED BEFORE WITH THE POWER SOURCE, THAT WE WILL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC AND MAKE THE WORK SESSION AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE MAKING THE DECISION ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, UH, THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND THAT WILL, THAT DISCUSSION WILL DRIVE WHAT RECOMMENDATION WE MAKE TO THE TOWN BOARD.
WITH NO OTHER, UH, UH, ISSUES ON THE AGENDA, I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTION TO CLOSE.
TONIGHT'S, UH, PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
YOU DON'T, DON'T, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
WE JUST GET, WE JUST PRESS LEAVE.
UM, I DID WANNA PASS A ALONG IN CASE SOME PEOPLE HAD NOT HEARD, UH, MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW HIM, BUT, UM, THE FORMER TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, RICK TURNER, FREDERICK TURNER PASSED AWAY.
UM, I THINK HE MAY HAVE BEEN AROUND 70.
HE HAD BEEN BATTLING AN ILLNESS.
UH, I KNOW SOME OF YOU KNOW, KNEW HIM.
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WOW.WE VOTED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO LEAVE THE MEETING.
UM, AARON, YOU STOPPED RECORDING AND, UH, GEORGE, UH, CAN WE I DID SHUT THE MEETING OFF.
CAN WE GET CONFIRMATION FROM GEORGE? I'LL WAIT ON THAT.
UH, WE DO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS, SO IF IT'S NOT PRIVILEGED THAT'S FINE.
IF IT IS PRIVILEGED, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR MR. BODEN TO LEAVE.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR TITLE VERSUS, UH, TIM IS, TIM IS THE TOWN ATTORNEY, CORRECT? TIM IS THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
I'M THE FIRST DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY.
WE'RE GONNA CALL HIM DEPUTY DAVE FROM NOW ON.
KNOW THE DOLLAR FIRST JOHANN, THEN IT'S DEPUTY DAVE.