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YOU'RE RECORDING, CORRECT? CORRECT.[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL Agenda THURSDAY, October 22, 2020 – 6:30 P.M. ]
YES.MIKE BROUGHT UP THE THING OF THE TREE LAW IN A DATE, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PAUL AND THAT'S WHERE HE SAID THAT'S AND THE TOWN BOARD.
SO I'LL BE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION TOMORROW.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, I DON'T EXPECT THE RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE FROM WHAT I'M, I'VE DISCUSSED WITH GARRETT AND, AND PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH AT LEAST, UH, TERRY AND MIKE, POSSIBLY THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE C A C WE'RE GONNA TARGET, UH, JANUARY ONE.
WELL, I, I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS, UH, WE SHOULD ENDORSE THAT OFFICIALLY SO THAT, UM, UM, WE SHOULD SAY SOMETHING DONE AS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, UM, UH, HAVE TO, HAVE YOU REVIEWED THE MATTER, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
YOU STATED THAT, UM, UM, HIS TENTATIVE, UH, TENTATIVELY THAT, UH, HE IS GOING TO PROPOSE A JANUARY ONE.
I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER, UH, MY THOUGHT IS, I THINK IT'S PREMATURE.
I, I THINK THE, THE, THE COURTESY IS TO LET AARON GO FIRST TO THE TOWN BOARD AND NOT TO US FIRST O OKAY.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO IS TO LET AARON BE ABLE TO SAY WHEN HE WENT TO THE TOWN BOARD, THAT HE HAS DISCUSSED IT WITH THE C A C AND THE C A C'S FINE WITH IT.
AND THAT'S FINE THEN TO SAY THAT VERBALLY, BUT I THINK IF WE SEND SOMETHING FORMALLY, IT LOOKS A LITTLE, OR NO, NO, NO.
I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT WE SEND IT.
I WAS SUGGESTING FOR THE MINUTES WE SAY THAT AARON HAS, PROPO HAS FLOATED THIS DATE WITH US, AND THAT IF THIS IS THE DATE HE CHOOSES IS FINE WITH US.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT US TO BE SENDING SOMETHING BEFORE HE GETS TO THEM.
IT, THE SEQUENCING ON THAT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU, HE IS SOMETHING ABOUT IT SAID THAT, UH, HE BELIEVES, UH, THAT HE IS THE TENTATIVE DATE THAT HE IS GOING TO, UH, RECOMMEND THE TOWN BOARD OF JANUARY ONE AND THE C A C INDICATED, UH, THAT WAS, UM, THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT THAT OR WHAT, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN YOU, AND THEN YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO AARON WHEN YOU GO TO THE, WHEN YOUR THING WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
YEAH, I'M JUST GONNA, I WAS PLANNING TO SEND AN EMAIL TO THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, ACTUALLY RESPOND, REPLYING TO THE EMAIL THAT I PREVIOUSLY SENT, WHICH I THINK, UH, AT LEAST TERRY AND MIKE ARE ON POSSIBLY THE ENTIRE C A C AND, UM, JUST RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, IT BE JANUARY ONE AND I DO HAVE A FEW HOURS.
SO CAN I, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? QUESTION? SURE.
SO, UM, IS THAT BECAUSE YOU THINK TOWN HALL'S GONNA BE OPEN THEN, OR IS THAT JUST, YOU KNOW? YEAH, NO, I DO, I DO NOT THINK, I THINK IT'S A CLEAN DATE.
IT'S THE START OF THE NEW YEAR.
I THINK WE'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT THAT TOWN HALL WOULD REOPEN, BUT, UM, WITH IT LOOKING UNLIKELY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE READY TO ROLL THIS OUT.
UM, I HAVE TIME SET ASIDE TOMORROW AS WELL AS EARLY NEXT WEEK TO CONTINUE WITH THE WORK THAT I NEED TO DO, AND THEN, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER MEETING WITH MIKE AND TERRY, UM, CONTINUING WITH, WITH THE WEBPAGE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND, UM, SPENDS WORKING ON, UH, THE TREE LIST, WHICH IS GOOD.
UM, I WILL BE LAYING OUT IN THE EMAIL, UH, THE ACTION STEPS THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD NEED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR THIS TO ROLL OUT JANUARY ONE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ADOPTION OF THE MANUAL, ADOPTION OF THE PARKING LOT, APPRECIATING STANDARDS, THE TREE LIST, THE FEE SCHEDULE.
WE ALSO HAVE AN AMENDMENT, UM, TO THE LAW AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, WHETHER THE BOARD WANTS, WHETHER THE TOWN BOARD WANTS TO DO THAT BEFORE JANUARY ONE OR AFTER, I DON'T THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT IT BE DONE BEFORE, BUT, UM, IF THEY WANT TO DO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE IN ONE MEETING, SO BE IT.
AND I DEFER TO THE TOWN BOARD ON THAT.
SO THERE'S SOME ACTION STEPS FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO TAKE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO 60 A CONFORMING TWO 60 A AND WE, SO, UM, WILL THERE BE ANY MESSAGING TO, TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS, OR WE LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE THEN THEY'LL GO RUSH AND TAKE THEIR TREES DOWN.
THE GOAL IS THAT WE DO WANNA GET THE WORD OUT TO THE RESIDENTS, UM, HOPING THAT LANDSCAPERS YEAH.
I MEAN, WE, I'D RATHER A COUPLE PEOPLE TRY AND SKIRT AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE A FEW
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TREES DOWN AHEAD OF IT.BUT THAT SAID, HAVE, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE AWARE AND NOT IN VIOLATION ONCE IT DOES TAKE EFFECT.
I I THINK YOUR, YEAH, YOUR PERSONAL, UM, STORY, MARGARET WAS VERY TELLING AS TO THE CONFUSION THIS IS CAUSING THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HECK WE'RE DOING.
WE PASSED A LAW AND IT'S NOT IN EFFECT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S CONFUSING FOR EVERYBODY.
THE, THE RESIDENTS, THE TREAT THE TREAT, EVEN ME.
SO IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TIME AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY DATE WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY IN APRIL AND SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DATE'S GONNA BE WHEN TOWN HALL OPENS.
SO IT'S SUCH AN INDEFINITE THING IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S TIME TO COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD DATE.
AS YOU SAID, IT'S A CLEAN DATE, JANUARY 1ST.
UM, I WANNA DO SOMETHING QUICK, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA OVERLOOK IT.
DID YOU ALL RECEIVE THE LETTER ABOUT STYROFOAM? UH, YEAH.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT AND, AND I JUST, I WONDERED LIKE, HOW WOULD YOU CONTROL IT? WELL, THAT WAS MY POINT,
I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF IT.
AND PLUS NOW ABOUT THE ONLY THING I USE THE STYROFOAM ON IS ELECTRONICS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE COMES WITH THE SOFT BUBBLES, WHICH IS REALLY INTERESTING.
IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE A WHOLE BOX AND IT'S FULL OF THIS BLOWN UP PLASTIC AND SOMETHING'S FULLY IN THE MIDDLE.
SO THERE IS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AS MUCH STYROFOAM AS THEY USED TO BE.
SO I, I GUESS THE QUESTIONS WE CAN DO ONE OR TWO THINGS.
WE COULD ACTUALLY REPLY WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO PAUL OR WE COULD IGNORE IT.
I'M, WHAT'S THE, LET US SAY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE LETTER.
SO IT GOES TO COUNTY EXECUTIVE LATIMER, THE COUNTY LEGISLATURES, UH, KY KIN WILLIAMS, ZI, VE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RIVERKEEPER AND JACKIE HOLMES, FEDERATED CONSERVATIONIST, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SIERRA CLUB, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR NEW YORK LEAD FOR CONSERVATION VOTERS, MEMBERS OF THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, AND SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER.
SHOULD WESTCHESTER BAN START IT FOR A FOAM PACKAGING IN JUNE, 2019? THE BOARD OF YOU READ THE WHOLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
WELL, IT'S NATIONAL ACTUALLY,
WELL, I, AGAIN, THAT'S THE COUNTY LEVEL THING.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT STYROFOAM IN YOUR RECYCLING BIN, THEY PUT IT IN WITH THE GARBAGE AND IT GETS BURNT.
AND JUST BE GLAD WE BURN OUR GARBAGE.
JUST BE GLAD WE BURN OUR GARBAGE AND IT'S NOT GOING IN A LANDFILL.
YOU KNOW, SOMEONE QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WAS SMART ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
IT SEEMED LIKE SUCH A STRANGE THING AT THE TIME THEY PROPOSED IT, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW PLACES THAT DOES THAT.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, SOMEONE I KNOW WHOSE FAMILY IS FROM THE MIDWEST WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN SHE GOES HOME, SHE'S ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED.
AND, UH, IT ALL GOES INTO A LANDFILL IN WISCONSIN.
SO I WONDER, I THINK, I'M SORRY, SHARON.
I SAID, I WONDER WHAT CHEMICALS BURNING THE STYROFOAM IS RELEASING INTO THE AIR.
I SUSPECT THEY PRETTY MUCH CATCH EVERYTHING BEFORE IT GOES UP TO CHIMNEY AND AIR.
THEY HAVE SCRUBBERS, BUT IT DOESN'T CATCH EVERYTHING GOES UP TO CHIMNEY.
SHARON'S, RIGHT? WELL, THEY, THEY, THEY DROP WATER DOWN.
THEY, THEY, THEY PUT RIGHT, THEY MISSED, THEY MISSED IT DOWN.
THEY TRY TO GET, AND THEN THEY GET SLUDGE.
I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS, YOU, YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE BEST POSSIBLE THING YOU CAN DO.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF EUROPEAN COUNTRIES BURN, DO THE, BURN THE GARBAGE TO GET THE ENERGY, LIKE DENMARK AND WHATNOT.
UM, AND REMEMBER WE HAD THE LADY WHO CAME WHO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HAVING THE BIG PLANT TO TURN THE, UM, FOOD WASTE, THE FOOD WASTE INTO TO GAS, TO BURN THE GAS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY OF THE WAYS YOU, YOU CAN GET RID OF STUFF, IT'S OF THE CHOICES.
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UH, FILLING UP LANDFILLS.SO, SO I THINK THE ONLY OTHER BIGGIE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE WHOLE QUESTION OF A BLOWER LOT.
AARON WANTS TO SIGN, AARON WANTS TO GO THROW HIS KIDS IN THE CLOSET.
UM, ONLY IF WE COULD BACKTRACK FOR A, FOR A MINUTE TO THE, UM, TWO 60 A THAT, THAT MIKE BROUGHT UP.
UM, I JUST FOUND OUT, UH, THIS AFTERNOON THAT, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW PUBLIC IT IS, BUT YOU GUYS ARE ON A COUNCIL OF THE TOWN.
I WOULDN'T SHARE IT PUBLICLY YET, BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER VICTOR OSI, UM, IS RESIGNING ACTIVE NOVEMBER 13TH.
UH, SO THE TOWN WILL HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AT A POINT, AND THAT LAW DOES IMPACT D P W.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I HAD BEEN WORKING WITH HIM ON IT, AND HE HAD A MILLION THINGS HE WAS DEALING WITH.
I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW WE BEST TACKLE IT, GIVEN THAT, UM, HE'LL BE LEAVING.
SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW, UH, WHAT THE TOWN BOARD'S PLAN IS TO REPLACE HIM AT THE MOMENT, WHETHER IT BE FROM WITHIN OR OUTSIDE.
UM, SO I JUST, HE HAS SOME, HE HAS SOME VERY GOOD DEPUTIES WORKING WITH HIM.
SO MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? AND ARE YOU CLOSE ENOUGH WITH HIM THAT WE CAN JUST GO FORWARD AND DO IT? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO GET TWO 60 N BECAUSE, UM, UM, KIND OF IS OUT THERE CUTTING IN GREENBERG NOW.
IT'S NOT KIND OF, IT'S VERIZON.
UM, ARE YOU CLOSE ENOUGH THAT, UH, I MEAN, THE ONLY OPEN ISSUE THAT I RECALL, BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT WAS WHETHER OR NOT HE REALLY WANTED TO DO THAT OR HE WANTED TO DEFER IT TO YOU? BECAUSE, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH MY NOTES.
UM, NO, HE WAS STILL INTERESTED IN IT FALLING UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF D P W, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOW HE'S
THE ONLY REASON FOR ASKING HIM IF HE WANTED TO HAVE YOU DO IT INSTEAD, WAS IT REALLY AS A COURTESY TO HIM, IT WASN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T A, SOMETHING ANYONE WAS SAYING HAD TO BE.
UM, AND JUST SO THAT IT WAS A KIND OF A COURTESY TO HIM AND RELIEVING HIM OF BURDENS AND MAKING THE DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MORE CONSISTENT.
BUT WHY DON'T WE JUST, UH, GO, I, I THINK IT'S BETTER TO GET IT ON THE BOOKS AND IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S A SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE FIX TO CHANGE.
UM, I WILL, I WILL MAKE TIME TO SIT DOWN WITH HIM OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
NO, THAT'S, I'LL MAKE TIME AND THEN I'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU GUYS.
BUT, UM, BUT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY SHOULD GO ON THE LIST, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S GOTTA REQUIRE SOME NOTICES.
'CAUSE IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO A PUBLIC LAW.
THE, UH, THE, I DON'T HAVE IT, UH, I IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UH, UH, ONE OF US OUGHT TO LOOK TO JUST BE SURE.
I MEAN, IT'S, WE CALL IT THE CONED LAW, BUT IT'S REALLY, IT'S CONED, IT'S VERIZON, IT'S OPTIMUM, IT'S ANYONE THAT'S DOING TREE TREATMENT, RIGHT? I BELIEVE IT'S ALL UTILITIES.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT'S SPECIFIC TO CON CON YEAH, WE CALL, WE, WE CALL IT THAT BECAUSE IT CAME UP DURING THE MOON SCAPING EPISODES WITH CON AIR BACK.
AND UH, I WANNA SAY IT AFFECTS TREES WITHIN THE UTILITIES RIGHTS OF WAY.
AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF UTILITY? I'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LOW.
I WAS WONDERING, DOES UTILITY INCLUDE LIKE CABLE VISION AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT? YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO CHECK.
I MEAN, I WASN'T REALLY SO MUCH INVOLVED IN WRITING THAT, SO I'M NOT OVERLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
WELL, I, I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE A LOOK LATER TONIGHT AND I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL.
BUT REMEMBER, UM, AND, AND THE PUBLIC MARKETS, UTILITIES ARE SEPARATED FROM COMMUNICATION SERVICES.
JEFF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS, YOU KNOW, IN THE PHYSICAL PLANT AND, AND STUFF.
I JUST WELL, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, I MEAN, WELL, ONE OF PAUL, ONE OF PAUL HAS POINTED OUT CORRECTLY THAT WHEN CONED DOES THE CUTTING, THEY ONLY WORRY ABOUT THEIR LINES AND THEY DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE VERIZON AND OPTIMUM LINES THAT, UM, ALL IN THE SAME POLLS.
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HAS, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TONIGHT WHEN THIS IS OVER.I WON'T WATCH THE DEBATE AT NINE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA GO TO 8 55, I HOPE.
NOW WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, AND MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT I'VE NOTICED WITH THE POLES GOING DOWN TO PUT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE'S STUFF ON THE POLE, THE POLES ARE 12 FEET TALLER THAN THEY USED TO BE, AND THEY'RE SO HEAVILY LOADED.
NONE OF THEM ARE STRAIGHT ANYMORE
SO I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GO ABOUT ADDRESSING IT, BUT I THINK WHEN WE HAVE STORMS, THE REASON THIS THIS STUFF IS GOING DOWN IS BECAUSE WE BASICALLY HAVE POLES THAT CAN'T HOLD THE LOAD THEY HAVE, PLUS I SUSPECT THE WIND IS STRONGER THE FARTHER UP YOU GO.
AND THESE POLES ARE DEFINITELY A GOOD 12 FEET HIGHER THAN THE OLD POLES.
SO I THINK THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE THINNER TOO, WHICH IS THE OTHER THING.
BUT THEY'RE ALL JACKED UP WITH EXTRA STUFF AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE PITCHES I'VE SEEN OF LOWER MANHATTAN BEFORE.
THEY BURIED ALL THE POLES, ALL THE WIRES.
YOU SEE PICTURES LIKE 1910 OF, OF WALL STREET.
THAT'S WHAT THE STREETS ARE STARTING TO LOOK LIKE.
I THINK THEY'VE REACHED THE LOAD.
THEY REALLY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT BURYING, BURYING THE WIRES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST TOO MUCH ON THE POLES FOR THEM TO HANDLE.
IT'S, IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AS A STOCKHOLDER IN CONED, I WOULD SAY MAYBE CONED ISN'T GETTING ENOUGH FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE POLES, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WIRES, AND THEY'RE NOT, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, THE ELECTRIC WIRES, THE REALLY THICK WIRES.
I THINK THOSE ARE VERIZON'S VERIZON'S WIRES.
IT, IT IS WHAT I THINK, I THINK
THE ELECTRIC ONES, BECAUSE I WAS WALKING ONE DAY AND I WAS LOOKING WHERE THE CONNECTIONS WENT INTO THE HOUSES.
I THINK IT'S THE THIN WIRES ON THE TOP OF THE ELECTRIC WIRES.
SO MAY EXPLAIN WHY WE CERTAINLY HAVE SO MANY ALLERGENS THAT WE NEVER DID BEFORE.
SO AT ANY RATE, SO WITH THAT TAKEN CARE YES.
SO I'VE GOT TWO OTHER ITEMS. 'CAUSE I DID JUST GET A TEXT MESSAGE FROM COMMISSIONER DUQUE.
UH, HE ASKED ME TO ALERT THE C A C, THAT THAT STAFF WOULD, UM, WILL BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE C A C, UH, AT ONE OF ITS NOVEMBER MEETING REGARDING DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL.
REGARDING THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE ELMWOOD PRESERVE PROPERTY, UH, THE D E I S WILL SOON BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.
AND THE C A C WILL BE ALERTED, UH, AS AN INTERESTED AGENCY.
AND THERE WILL BE A FORMAL CIRCULATION, YOU KNOW, OF THE D E I S TO THE C A C.
THIS IS FROM ALERT YOU OF THAT, THIS IS FROM GARRETT, OR, YES.
THIS IS A TEXT MESSAGE FROM GARRETT.
WE, UH, WANTED, HE ASKED ME TO RELAY THAT TO YOU.
I WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE ONE MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
OH, DO YOU HAVE THE DATE BY ANY CHANCE? YES.
NOW, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THANKSGIVING.
THAT LEADS ME TO, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WHICH I'M, I DON'T HAVE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE D E I S, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, HE WANTED ME TO RELAY THAT AND HE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE TOWN BOARD SOON.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHEN IT'S GONNA BE FORMALLY CIRCULATED, UM, ON NOVEMBER 12TH.
SO THAT LEADS ME TO MY LAST COMMENT THAT I WANTED OR KIND OF VIEWS THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE.
THERE IS A PROJECT THAT, UM, WILL BE, I IMAGINE THEY'LL PROBABLY WANT TO GET ON FOR NOVEMBER 12TH IF YOUR AGENDA PERMITS.
IT'S A SUBDIVISION OFF OF ARDSLEY ROAD, UM, KIND OF NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SPRAIN ROAD WHERE THEY JUST STARTED TO PUT IN THAT NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
IT'S UP THAT KIND OF SCUR KENNEDY.
OH, IT'S UM, IT'S EAST OF THERE.
KENNEDY I THINK HAS A SUBDIVISION IN THE VILLAGE, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, SO THIS IS A THREE LOT SUBDIVISION.
BUT THEY WANNA PUT IN A CUL-DE-SAC.
THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL CALL IT A LOWER GRADE WETLAND IN THERE.
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KNOW, IT'S NOT RAMPANT WITH INVASIVES, BUT IT'S NOT, CERTAINLY NOT, UH, A PRISTINE, SO, SORRY, SOMEONE'S AT MY DOOR.PRISTINE, PROTECTED WETLAND THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, UM, AMPHIBIANS AND ALL THAT, UM, IN THERE.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, THEY HAVE DIRECT DISTURBANCE TO THE WETLAND TO BRING IN THE ROADWAY.
THEY DO HAVE A MITIGATION PLAN AND THEY ARE READY TO COME BEFORE THE C A C.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ALERT YOU TO THAT.
WHO'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO THE ENVIRONMENTAL THEY HAVE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT, THEIR END, I BELIEVE IT'S BETH EVANS OF EVANS.
SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL WORK OUT BECAUSE SHE, SHE'S JUST TOP QUALITY, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, UH, JOHN MEYER CONSULTING IS THE ENGINEERS, AND IT IS KNOWN AS CASE NUMBER PB 17 DASH ZERO SIX.
UH, THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION, N R S F, WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY NOW, THE N R S F, IN FACT THEY OWN IT.
THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION.
IN FACT, THEY OWNED THE PROPERTY ACROSS FROM MARGARET THAT ULTIMATELY WAS SOLD TO TOW BROTHERS FREIGHT AND LANE, I BELIEVE IT IS.
THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED TO DEVELOP IT, UM, BY WHATEVER THEIR, THEIR OBLIGATIONS ARE AS AS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, A COMPANY, HOWEVER THEY CAN SUBDIVIDE IT AND THEN SELL IT TO SOMEONE THAT WOULD BUILD THE LOTS.
I HAVE SOME, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, NATIONAL ROADS SAFETY FOUNDATION, WHERE IT'S, UM, I FORGET THE FAMILY'S NAME.
THEY OWNED THE ACRES ACROSS FROM ME THAT GOT DEVELOPED.
THEY SOLD IT TO TOLL BROTHERS AFTER THEY GOT ALL THE PERMITS.
SO I GUESS THIS IS THE OTHER END OF THAT.
THAT IS THE OTHER END OF THAT, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONED TRANSMISSION LINES.
AND THEY'RE ONLY DOING THREE HOUSES.
SO THEY CAME IN WITH FOUR, INITIALLY IN A PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCE WITH THE PLANNING BOARD PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, MAYBE EVEN LONGER.
AND THE PLANNING BOARD WAS NOT, UH, THEY DIDN'T LOOK FAVORABLY UPON A FOUR LOT LAYOUT.
UM, THEY, THEY ASKED THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY REDUCING DOWN TO THREE.
I THINK ONE OF THE LOTS WAS EITHER A GONNA POTENTIALLY FRONT ONTO OLD SPRAIN ROAD, WHICH WOULD'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT CUT THROUGH STEEP SLOPE.
AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID NOT LOVE THAT.
UH, THE FALLBACK ON THAT WAS A VERY LONG DRIVEWAY OFF OF THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT WOULD'VE CUT THROUGH STEEP SLOPE ROCK.
AND THE PLANNING BOARD SAID, HEY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER DROPPING DOWN TO THREE.
THEY PULLED THE HOUSES A LITTLE CLOSER.
UM, THEY'RE LEAVING A, A, A LARGE SWATH OF LAND THAT, THAT TO THE, TO THE NORTH.
IS THERE AN EASEMENT? IS THERE AN EASEMENT THERE UP FOR WHERE THEY LOOK AT, THERE WAS THE, THERE WAS THE LOOKOUT DURING THE, YOU REMEMBER THE, WHAT'S UP THERE? THERE'S, THERE'S A LOOKOUT THAT DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR YOU COULD SEE THE HUDSON RIVER AND YOU COULD SEE LONG ISLAND SOUND AND YOU COULD SEE WHO WAS COMING.
YOU REMEMBER THAT STORY,
I MEAN, I KNOW OF SOME, YOU REMEMBER MR. JAO TOLD ME THAT STORY, AND I THINK THAT WAS NOT DEVELOPED THAT PARCEL.
I, I WANNA SAY THAT THAT LAND IS SOUTH OF THE GEL SPRING.
SO IT'S, IT'S ACROSS ARDSLEY ROAD ON THIS LOT.
I I WANNA SAY THAT IT WAS ON THE SPRAIN PROPERTY AND IT WAS PRESERVED AND IT WAS KNOWN AS THE OLD FARM LANE.
AND, UM, TERRY MAY REMEMBER THAT.
YEAH, I GUESS THE GA SPRING PROPERTY.
IS IT, IS IT, YEAH, IT'S SO FRANK HAD FRANK HAD IT WRONG, I GUESS I REMEMBER.
HE, YEAH, I MEAN, FRANK WAS, BECAUSE FRANK WAS THE ONE WHO REALLY PUSHED FOR THAT BEING PRESERVED.
UM, BUT IT, IT IS ON THE GA SPRING PROPERTY IN THE BACK AND WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, 'CAUSE WE WALKED THE GA SPRING PROPERTY BEFORE IT WAS DEVELOPED.
AND WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, YOU REALLY, THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW.
YEAH, THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW.
I MEAN, BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT WALK STICKS OUT IN MY MIND.
'CAUSE WE WERE JOKING ABOUT HOW THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE HIGH TENSION WIRES, THE PARKWAY AND THE SHOOTING RANGE.
THEY WERE STILL BUILDING THE HOUSES.
THEY CREATED A SEPARATE LOT WITH JUST THAT.
SO I SUSPECT THAT THEY'LL TRY AND SUBMIT TO
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GET ON FOR, UH, THE 12TH.AND I'LL ALERT YOU IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES ALONG IN THE INTERIM.
WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE HAVE THAT IN, IN ELWOOD, WE HAVE A VERY FULL, FULL MEETING.
PARTICULARLY SINCE WE MIGHT STILL BE TALKING ABOUT BLOWERS EVEN IN NOVEMBER, I WOULD HAVE A LAW BY THEN.
SO THOSE WERE, UM, THE UPDATES THAT I WANTED TO GIVE TO YOU ALL.
UM, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME OR? YEAH, MY, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
OUR MEETINGS ARE SO MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE WITH, WITH YOUR UN ATTENDANCE.
IF THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ELSE, UM, I TURN OVER HOST TO TERRY, AND, BUT IF YOU NEED ME, I'M AROUND.
THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN OUT OF THE CLOSET.
I ONCE HAD A FRIEND, MARGARET LOCKED HER DAUGHTER IN THE CLOSET BECAUSE SHE WAS A, THE KID WAS BEING LIKE FOUR YEARS OLD AND BEING SO HORRIBLE.
AND AFTER A DAY OF WORK AND THE HUSBAND WASN'T HOME AND THE TWO KIDS WERE SCREAMING.
SHE WAS A, SHE, IT WAS LIKE A TOY ROOM.
SHE LOCKED THE KID IN THE TOY ROOM, BUT SHE WAS AFRAID OF WHAT SHE WAS GONNA DO TO THE KID.
'CAUSE THE KID HAD BEEN SCREAMING LIKE FOR HALF HOUR, THANK GOD.
THE BETTER THING WAS TO LOCK CHILD IN THIS SMALL ROOM BEFORE SHE DID SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE.
SO
AND THEN YOU REMEMBER THAT SCENE FROM THE FLINTSTONES? THEY JUST WANNA COME BACK IN
LIKE, IT NEVER OCCURRED TO HIM, LIKE TO RUN AWAY FROM HOME.
ONCE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, THE THING THAT NEVER DIES, THE VA THE VA BOY LAW, LAW THAT HAS NEVER TIES WE'RE BACK TO, TO TO, TO THE BLOWER LAW.
AND MIKE HAD PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE POSITION OURSELVES.
AND, UH, THIS THING HAS GONE AROUND.
PAUL SENT OUT AN EMAIL, WHICH I THINK I SENT ON TO YOU FOLKS ABOUT DOING A SURVEY, BUT NOW IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE MIGHT HAVE A THIRD VOTE.
SO I THINK IT'S BETTER TO PUT THE SURVEY THOUGHTS OFF UNTIL WE SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME BUY-IN FROM THIS THIRD BOARD MEMBER WHO PERHAPS JUST NEEDED MORE INFORMATION.
MEAN LIKE A SURVEY OF THE TOWN AGAIN.
YEAH, I WAS LIKE, BECAUSE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS, IF PAUL INSISTS ON DOING IT, WE HAVE TO POINT OUT, AND THE SURVEY MAY SHOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE LAW.
MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A SURVEY, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING BACK AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S ANSWERING IT.
SO, UM, COULD BE THE RUSSIANS COULD BE
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CHANCE, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT MAYBE IT'S 50 50 OF GETTING A THIRD VOTE.
AND, UM, I, IT, IT PROBABLY ISN'T WORTH TO DILUTE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH A SURVEY.
AND, UM, PAUL IS RATHER BULLISH THAT WE HAVE A THIRD VOTE.
UH, I DON'T THINK TERRY, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK TERRY KNOWS EITHER.
UH, UH, TERRY'S REACHED OUT TO THE POTENTIAL THIRD VOTE TO, UH, ASK HER TO GIVE TERRY A CALL.
AND, UM, UM, SO I SUGGEST WE TAKE, TAKE COMMENTS ON THIS AND, UH, ADOPT IT TONIGHT AND THEN, UH, SEND IT ON TO THE TOWN BOARD.
AND, UH, OR, OR, OR MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS WE SHOULD ADOPT IT TONIGHT AND GIVE TERRY THE AUTHORITY, LIKE, UH, WE DID BEFORE ON THE, UH, THAT SENIOR HOUSING GIVE TERRY THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICIES.
SO IF YOU KNOW THE, THE POTENTIAL THIRD VOTE'S GOT ONE THING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE WANTS IN THERE NOR TO VOTE FOR IT, UH, WE CAN GET, WE CAN MODIFY IT.
SO I'M REMINDED OF A NIGHT, YOU AND I, MIKE SPENT AT THE EDGEMONT, OLD EDGEMONT, RIGHT.
WHERE, UM, I FORGET WHO STOOD UP, BUT SOMEBODY STOOD UP AND SAID, WAIT, WE'RE THE FIRST ONES TO DO THIS.
WHY WOULD WE BE THE FIRST ONES? SO HOW LINED UP IS THIS WITH LARGEMONT? ARE THEY DOING ELECTRIC AND GAS OR JUST GAS? NO, WE, WE, WE ARE MUCH, WE ARE MUCH MORE LIBERAL THAN LARGEMONT.
LARGEMONT IS DOING, GAS IS STRICTLY FOR BODEN
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ALL YEAR, ALL YEAR.AND THEY, AND THEY ALLOW ELECTRIC DURING SPRING AND FALL CLEANUPS, BUT THEIR PERIODS ARE SHORTER THAN OUR, SO WE, WE ARE MORE, WE'RE WE'RE SAYING GAS AND ELECTRIC COMPLETELY EB BODEN EXCEPT FOR CLEANUP USE WHATEVER YOU HAVE.
WELL, WE'RE LETTING PEOPLE USE GAS DURING THE CLEANUP AND WE'RE HAVING LONGER CLEANUP PERIODS.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU CHART IT OUT, LARGE AMOUNT US WE'RE LETTING GAS BE USED DURING THE CLEANUP PERIOD AS LARGEMONT DOESN'T.
AND OUR PERIODS OF CLEANUP ARE LONGER.
WELL, OUR SPRING, UH, THE FALL CLEANUP PERIOD IS THE SAME, BUT THE SPRING CLEANUP PERIOD IS ABOUT FOUR WEEKS LONGER.
WE ALSO HAVE EXCEPTIONS IN THERE, LIKE FOR IF YOU HAVE A, A, A TREE CUT DOWN, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE EXCEPTIONS IN THERE THAT LARGEMONT DOESN'T HAVE.
AND, AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I FEEL VERY STRONGLY WE HAVE TO INCLUDE, UM, ALLOW THE GASOLINE AND NOT JUST FOCUS ON THE ELECTRIC, IS I THINK IT'LL BE VERY BURDENSOME TO THE LA UH, LANDSCAPERS, PARTICULARLY AT A TIME WHEN PROFITS ARE SHORT.
AND FROM WHAT I'VE READ, THE ELECTRIC AND BATTERY PACK BLOWERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY IDEAL FOR A BUSINESS WHERE THEY HAVE TO RUN ALL DAY.
AND IF YOU HAVE HAVE TO HAVE THE, THE ELECTRIC COURT COMING OUT, YOU NEED THE SOCKETS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST VIABLE THING.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, IN TERMS OF THE NOISE FROM WHAT PETER'S RESEARCH SHOWS, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE NOISE AND THAT, AND, AND CERTAINLY THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE DIRT THAT'S BEING BLOWN UP INTO THE ATMOSPHERE OR THE DAMAGE TO THE SOIL.
SOMEHOW, I MEAN, I GRANT YOU THAT PROBABLY THERE IS A NET GAIN IN THE REDUCTION OF CARBON EMISSIONS BETWEEN A FOREST STROKE, ELECTRIC RATHER FOREST STROKE, GASOLINE.
BUT I, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE ON THIS.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THOSE MACHINES, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE ROUNDS, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE BEING SOLD ALL THAT MUCH ANYMORE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU SEE THESE STATISTICS, BUT THE STATISTICS ARE REALLY BASED ON THE TWO STROKES.
AND NO ONE'S USING A TWO STROKE ANYMORE.
THEY WERE BANNED BASICALLY YEARS AGO.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S A MISNOMER TO WORRY ABOUT THAT WHEN THE EXHAUST, EXHAUST EXHAUST, THE REAL ISSUE IS WHAT THEY'RE BLOWING UP AND THE THE SOIL DAMAGE AND THE NOISE.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE SORT OF COMING FROM.
BUT IT'S, IT'S SORT OF GETTING EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND GOING FORWARD.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND ISN'T JUST LARGE, MY, MOST MANY MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SOME VERSION OF A BLOWER LAW.
THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THEM NOW.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT ANYTHING UNIQUE ABOUT HAVING ONE.
AND THIS SEEMS TO BE, AS MIKE SAID, ONE OF THE SOFTER ONES IN TERMS OF WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, GOING GUNGHO ON, YOU KNOW, TOTAL BAN OF ANYTHING.
EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, YOU KNOW.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY EVOLVE TO THAT.
IF YOU PUT THAT, PUT THAT LITTLE THING IN THERE.
SO, UM, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S HIS NAME CAN CLEAN, FRANCIS CAN CLEAN UP HIS, HIS, UH, IN THERE.
I MEAN, WE WOULDN'T WANNA PUT OUR HAND BACK THERE AND PULL THE STUFF OUT BY HAND.
THAT'S WHAT GARDEN GLOVES WERE INVENTED FOR THE WORMS DOWN THERE.
UM, I WAS SITTING HERE THE OTHER DAY AND MY GARDENER NEIGHBOR'S GARDENERS CAME BY AND, YOU KNOW, HE HAD FOUR BLOWERS GOING AND THEN ANOTHER NEIGHBOR ALSO HAD FOUR BLOWERS GOING, OR IT SOUNDED LIKE THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY, I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY GOING TO AFFECT THE NOISE AT ALL.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WE'RE MAKING IS CHANGING THE TIME PERIOD.
THERE WON'T BE NOISE IN THE SUMMER.
I MEAN, WE'LL TAKE THE NOISE OUT IN THE SUMMER.
WE'RE AFFECTING ABOUT 60, 65% OF THE YEAR.
IT, IT'S STILL ALL RIGHT, FINE.
BUT BETTER NOT, NOT GETTING RID OF THE GAS, I THINK IS A MISTAKE.
I REALLY THINK YOU THINK WHAT NOT GETTING RID OF THE GAS BLOWERS IS, IS A MISTAKE.
WE GET RID OF THE GAS FOR 65% OF THE YEAR.
WE STILL HAVE IT THOUGH, BUT, BUT THEY'RE JUST AS NOISY.
THEY'RE JUST AS, THE ELECTRIC IS JUST AS HARMFUL.
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THING YOU'RE SAVING IS THAT DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN ELECTRIC AND, AND THE EXHAUST FROM A FOUR STROKE GAS, THE AIR.I WAS WATCHING MY GARDEN THAT HAD THE GAS PACK WENT ON.
THERE WAS NOTHING COMING OUT OF IT.
IT ISN'T LIKE THE OLD ONES, THE TWO STROKES WHERE YOU SAW THE SMOKE COMING OUTTA THEM.
I, YOU KNOW, NOT YOUR LAW THE WAY YOU LIKE IT, SO JUST WELL, NO, I JUST DON'T, I I JUST THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY.
I THINK IT'S A REAL IMPOSITION TO ASK THE LANDSCAPERS AND THEN YOU GET PUSHBACK.
AND WHAT YOU DON'T WANT IS PUSHBACK.
YOU WANNA SLIDE IT THROUGH, SLIDE IT THROUGH
WELL, WHAT, WHAT I RECOMMEND IS THAT, IS THAT WE, GOOD LUCK WITH IT.
WELL, THE FIFTH TIME IS A CHARM
I RECOMMEND THAT WE, WE DO THIS.
I, WE MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE GIVE TERRY, UM, THE, UH, AUTHORITY TO MAKE, UM, UH, CHA ANY CHANGES, UM, UM, CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICIES, UH, UH, SO THAT SHE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO, UH, THIS ONE MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD THAT MIGHT, MIGHT BE, UH, SWITCHING A VOTE.
UH, IF, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE COMES UP WITH LIKE FRANCIS DID WITH THIS ONE ISSUE AND THE OTHER, WE CAN PUT IN SOMETHING ELSE.
I I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WRITE THAT UP, DONNA.
SOMETHING A LITTLE NICER THAN THAT.
I'M COMPLETELY OKAY WITH THAT.
TERRY, DO WE WANNA DO LIKE A, SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION SECOND AND VOTE? OR WE JUST GONNA, I MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO WHATEVER DONNA WRITES UP.
YOU KNOW, THEY SAY FOLLOW THE FED.
WE NEED A SECOND ON THAT, DONNA.
OKAY, SO, SO IT'S ONE, TWO, SO VERY MELLOW.
YOU'RE GETTING VERY MELLOW IN YOUR OLD AGE.
I JUST WANT THIS, THE FINAL THING IS, IS INVASIVES.
AND I WANNA SAY, I, I HAVE UH, ONE COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ON THE INVASIVES.
AND STEPHANIE, I READ WHAT YOU DID.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY ONE WORD THAT DESCRIBES WHAT YOU DID.
THAT IS, YOU ARE VERY TALENTED YOUNG LADY.
THAT IS VERY, THAT IS EXCELLENT WORK.
YEAH, I HAVE TO ADD MORE PHOTOS.
DID YOU SEND SOMETHING SINCE THE LAST MEETING OR JUST, WHAT WAS THE LAST MEETING? DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VERSION? A NEW VERSION OF IT? OR? IT CAME ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK.
YOU DO HAVE TO DO, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS.
WHEN YOU HAVE A GROUP, YOU CAN'T SEND IT OUT ON CHRISTMAS EVE 'CAUSE PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GET, WE HAVE A LOT OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
'CAUSE AT, UM, LIKE MY SCHOOL EMAIL, WHICH I DON'T USE FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL 'CAUSE LIKE THEY BLOCK STUFF AND IT DOESN'T WORK THIS WHOLE WEEK, I'VE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE WITH LIKE, EMAILS AND SENDING STUFF OUT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS HOME.
'CAUSE USUALLY I'D SEND STUFF OUT AT SCHOOL AND THEN THEIR WIFI WOULD MESS UP.
OR SOMETIMES WHEN I'M HOME IT WOULD SWITCH OVER TO MY SCHOOL AND IT'S JUST A WEIRD THING.
SO
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GOT THE RIGHT THING AND NOT LIKE A MESSED UP VERSION OR LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, MY PHYSICS HOMEWORK.
NO, IT'S A, IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
BUT WELL, EVERY, WE SHOULD, UH, WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REALLY TOUGH TIME NEXT THEN.
DO WE, WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 12TH.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HELL OF AN AGENDA ON.
ALL I CAN SUGGEST YOU DO IS CONTINUE IT AND, UM, I JUST CHECKED MY EMAIL.
AND I THINK THERE HAS TO BE UHHUH
I THINK I'M GONNA JUST, WE, WE CAN'T RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE USE THE ROUNDUP.
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RECOMMEND, I CAN'T PRONOUNCE THE CHEMICAL NAME OF IT, BUT, UH, WE, WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT.AND THE MASTER GARDENERS, THEY DON'T SUGGEST OH YEAH, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.
YEAH, IT'S CONTROVERSIAL FOR SURE.
BUT WE CAN'T TELL PEOPLE TO USE EVEN THE, OH, WHAT IS IT CALLED? SOMETHING WITH A GLY ATE, ATE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING, THE, UH, I'M SORRY.
THE, UH, ANOTHER THING IS I THINK, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO FEATURE, FEATURE THE, UH, INVASIVE VINES THAT, OR PLANTS THAT ARE, ARE POPULAR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT JUST DUMP ALL OF THEM ON IT.
IT, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THEM ALL THERE BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE AN INSTANCE WHERE THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT MEANWHILE WE REALLY SHOULD FEATURE THE ONES THAT ARE, ARE MOST PREVALENT AND MOST IN MOST ALSO, IF WE COULD GET THE, DID YOU GET THE EMAIL OR I DID NOT GET THE EMAIL.
I JUST LOOKED, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE EMAIL.
SHARON, SHE, SHARON, SHE DID THAT.
I, YEAH, I, I FIXED IT AND I, UH, DID THAT.
THE ONLY THING I'LL PROBABLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL ROUNDUP PART THAT YOU JUST TOLD ME.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN FIND SOME OUTSIDE AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS OURSELVES, BUT IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL IF WE HAVE PICTURES OF THEM WHEN THEY'RE SMALL.
SHE, SHE HAS PICTURES, BUT DID YOU HAVE PICTURES LIKE WHEN THEY JUST LIKE ONE OR TWO LEAVES TRYING TO FIND, LIKE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD S AND STUFF.
BUT I'LL LOOK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRY AND SEE IF I FIND ANY, LET ME LOOK AT WHAT I GET IT.
I'LL LOOK AT WHAT ONES YOU HAVE AND SEE IF I CAN, I KNOW I DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF READING LATELY.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I SEE YOU FEEL LIKE I'M ALWAYS PULLING THEM OUT.
SO THEY COME OUT WITH THESE ORANGY LONG ORANGY ROOTS.
IT'S LIKE THREE, THREE LEAVES AND THEN A THIS LONG.
PROBABLY GOOD WITH GARLIC FROM WHERE THE VINE IS.
YOU CAN STILL HAVE THE V THE ROOTS FROM THAT VINE.
ANOTHER THING IS, I THINK WE HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE WHAT, WHICH INVASIVES ARE STILL BEING SOLD AT AT ANY REMAINING NURSERIES AROUND HERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LAW ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S STILL BAMBOO.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT SELLING BAMBOO, ARE THEY? THEY, YOU COULD GO TO SHOPRITE AND BUY BAMBOO.
BUT I'M LIKE, I HAVE A BAMBOO PLANT, LIKE AN INDOOR HOUSE PLANT THAT I GOT WHEN I WAS LIKE, YEARS AND IT'S GROWN INTO THIS GINORMOUS THING.
SO LIKE, LET'S SAY SOMEONE WANTS TO PLANT IT OUTSIDE, THEY TECHNICALLY COULD.
WELL, I THINK BECAUSE I TREAT IT AS A HOUSE PLANT.
AND I THINK THIS IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE THE TYPE OF THING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL GARDENING WITH BARBERY AND, AND, AND ROSA SHARON ISN'T ON THE LIST, BUT SHOULD BE.
I HAD BARBERRY WHEN I MOVED IN HERE.
PAKISTAN, I'M SORRY, EUROPEAN, PAKISTAN OR ASIAN.
UH, THERE'S AN AMERICAN VARIETY AND THERE'S A FAR VARIETY.
THE FAR VARIETY IS TERRIBLY INVASIVE.
IT'S JUST TAKEN OVER MY WHOLE FRONT, UH, FLOWER BED.
AND THAT'S BEING SOLD ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I, I, I DO HAVE AANDRA, BUT IT'S PRETTY CONTAINED.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE ARE IS A VARIETY OF BAMBOO THAT IS NOT INVASIVE.
AND WE REALLY OH, IS THAT RIGHT? UNTIL IT MORPHS? YEAH.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SELLING, STEPHANIE.
OH, I, NO, I'M SURE, I'M SURE THIS ON THE CHEAP STUFF, I DON'T REALLY, REALLY GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
AND DON'T WE HAVE A SPECIFIC LAW ABOUT BAMBOO? YEAH.
WE HAVE, OUR WHOLE INVASIVE PLAN IS AROUND BAMBOO.
EVEN, EVEN THE INVASIVE BAMBOO CAN BE CUT OW, CEMENTS.
YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A, A BARRIER BETWEEN IT AND THE REST, EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND IT HAS TO GO REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DEEP.
BECAUSE WHEN WE, WE HAD SHELBURN COME IN, IF YOU REMEMBER THERE WAS VAN.
I THINK IT WAS BETH EVANS WAS, SO MY, I THINK IT WAS BETH EVANS, BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERSON WAS.
IT WAS, WAS EXPLAINING THAT YOU BASICALLY HAD TO GO DOWN SIX, SEVEN FEET AND LIKE PUT A METAL PLATE TO STOP IT.
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ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT OUT.'CAUSE HE COULDN'T SUCCEED AT GETTING RID OF IT.
THE ROOTS, THE ROOTS ARE SO VIABLE, WHICH WAS REALLY SCARY.
JUST MY KNOWLEDGE ON BAMBOO IS THAT THERE'S THE SPREADING INVASIVE BAMBOO, AND THEN THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED CLUMPING BAMBOO THAT DOESN'T SPREAD AGGRESSIVELY.
UH, IT REALLY JUST GROWS IN A CLUMP AND THEN DOESN'T SPREAD, BUT, SO THERE'S SPREADING AND CLUMPING, BUT IT'S LIKE THAT METASTATIC CANCER AND, AND NON-METASTATIC CANCER.
THEY, I MEAN, THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR SO THEY CAN BE CONFUSED, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS OH, INTERESTING.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HOW WOULD, SO IF YOU'RE BUYING A LITTLE PLANT, YOU KNOW, HOME DEPOT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOT THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SELLING IT ANYWAY, BUT YOU GO THERE AND IT PROBABLY JUST SAYS BAMBOO.
SWEATING BAMBOO OR CLUMPING BAMBOO.
SO YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
I THINK, SHARON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, STEPHANIE, WHY DON'T YOU REPEAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ERIN HEARD IT ABOUT YOUR BAMBOO.
UM, WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN I GOT THE BAMBOO, BUT I REMEMBER GETTING IT FROM, UM, OR GETTING IT AS A GIFT.
AND I HAD IT SINCE LIKE, I THINK IT WAS 20 16, 20 15, AND LIKE TWO, LIKE, IT WAS THREE STRANDS OF BAMBOO.
TWO OF THEM DIED OFF, BUT ONE OF THEM JUST STAYED ALIVE AND HAS CONTINUED TO GROW.
SO NOW I HAVE LIKE FOUR STRANDS OF BAMBOO GROWING IN THIS ONE POT.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S A, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE INVASIVES AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW, IT COULD ALSO JUST BE THE HOUSE BAMBOO PLANT.
BUT YOU COULD ALWAYS MAKE, RIGHT.
IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT VARIETIES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT, THAT CAN BE VERY TRICKY.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE? AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE, THEN THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN GET IN TROUBLE.
OH, THEY, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE THIS LITTLE HOUSE PLAN, STAYED SO LITTLE AND I'LL PUT IT OUT IN THE GARDEN AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.
DOES THE BAMBOO SPREAD OTHER THAN BY ROOT? GENERALLY BY RHIZOME ONLY.
BECAUSE I GONNA SAY, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S, SOMEONE HAS A GREAT DEAL OF IT, MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I WAS ALWAYS THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SPREAD ANY OTHER WAY, THEN IT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CONS.
IT'S LIKE THERE'S A SEED AND THE BIRDS, YOU KNOW, GET IT AND THEN FLY AND THEN DROP IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S JUST A SLOW CRAWL CREEP INTO THE NEXT PERSON'S PROPERTY.
AND I GOTTA GET BACK TO PEELING GARLIC
BUT I DID HEAR YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT INVASIVE.
CAN WE ASK WHAT YOU'RE MAKING? WHATCHA COOKING? UH, I'M MAKING, SO I'M PART OF A COMMUNITY SUPPORTED AGRICULTURE.
UH, C S A, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH THEM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, THERE'S A FARM IN OING THAT, UM, HAS PARTNERED UP OR AT LEAST GOTTEN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHURCH IN DOBBS FERRY TO PROVIDE ITS, UM, PRODUCE, UH, FOR PICKUP FOR PEOPLE IN THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY AREA.
SO I SIGNED UP, I, I HAD READ ABOUT IT SOMETIME OVER I GUESS THE EARLY SUMMER AND IT ALREADY STARTED.
IT'S CALLED FABLE, UH, FROM FARM TO TABLE.
UH, I SIGNED UP, IT WAS PRORATED.
I PAY, IT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT 25 BUCKS A WEEK.
AND I GO TO THE CHURCH PARKING LOT IN DOBBS FERRY RIGHT OFF OF BROADWAY, SUNDAY MORNINGS.
AND I PICK UP MY BAG OF FARM FRESH, YOU KNOW, VEGETABLES AND UM, HERBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I'M MAKING ITALIAN FRYING PEPPERS.
WHAT'S YOUR TECHNIQUE FOR PEELING THE GARLIC FINGERNAILS? WHAT, HOW DO YOU DO IT?
YOU GET SOMETHING REALLY BIG AND SMASH IT.
IT COMES RIGHT OFF, RIGHT OFF.
I'VE GOTTEN, UH, I'VE HAD, I'VE GOTTEN MORE D TYPES OF SQUASH THAN I'VE EVER EVEN KNEW AROUND.
BUT IT'S, IT'S HELPED ME IN THE, YOU KNOW, I, I COOK ALL THIS STUFF, SO IT'S GREAT.
SO YEAH, COMMUNITY SUPPORTED AGRICULTURE, SO, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS KEEP THE FARM GOING.
AND WE VISITED THE FARM, WHICH WAS NICE.
MY WIFE AND I WENT UP THERE AND THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, THE CHICKENS RUNNING AROUND.
IT WASN'T A VERY BIG FARM, BUT IT WAS CUTE.
YOU KNOW,
SO THEY HAD, THEY HAD, UH, PUMPKINS AND CIDER AND DONUTS AND, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BARN THAT HAD THE EGGS AND UM, YOU KNOW, WOW.
THEY HAD SOME NEAT STUFF AND THEY PARTNER UP WITH OTHER LOCAL FARMS. SO IT'S KIND OF COOL.
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BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IT OUT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY.OH, IS HE PROBABLY THE BIG ONE IN THE CORNER? YOU KNOW THAT BIG ONE ON? UM, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE ON BROADWAY.
OH, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT ONE, I WOULD SUSPECT.
NO, IT'S PROBABLY THE PRESBYTERIAN ONE.
'CAUSE THEY'RE INTO A LOT OF THAT STUFF.
YEAH, THAT'S, I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT, BUT THEY, I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE FOOD KITCHEN.
STEPHANIE, I DIDN'T RE I ALSO DIDN'T RECEIVE WHAT YOU SENT, SO IT'S INTERESTING.
BUT DONNA, YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE IT, RIGHT? NO, NO.
LEMME TAKE A, SO IF I DON'T RECEIVE IT BY TOMORROW, I'LL EMAIL YOU AND LET YOU KNOW.
I'LL RESEND IT ONCE WE FINISH AND MAYBE IT'LL WORK BETTER.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T GET IT.
SO I'LL TRY AND SEND IT MAYBE PERSONALLY AND IT'LL WORK.
WELL, I DIDN'T LOOK, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T LOOK IN MY, UM, I HAVE LIKE, ON MY, MY NAIL SYSTEM, I HAVE FOCUSED AND NON-FOCUSED.
SO IT MIGHT'VE GONE INTO NON-FOCUSED 'CAUSE IT WAS NOTHING IN JUNK.
I DIDN'T LOOK THE NUMBER, BUT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN IN NON-FOCUSED.
SO IT COULD BE THE ONLY, THE ONLY THINGS THAT GO INTO MY JUNK ARE FROM MIKE
I, I DON'T KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT GOES TO JUNK, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY SEND IT ON TO JUNK.
WHY THEY DON'T JUST DELETE IT.
SO DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR TONIGHT? SHARON? YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
WELL, WELL, WELL, ONE, ONE THING WE, I'M SORRY.
OH NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WHERE MY JUNK GOES TO, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
A SUBDIVISION'S GONNA INVOLVE, UH, YOU KNOW, TREES AND WETLANDS AND ACTUAL DISTURBANCE IN THE DISTURBANCE IN AN ACTUAL WETLAND AND TREES AND STEEP SLOPES.
'CAUSE WE HAVE BETH EVANS AS THE ENVIRONMENTALIST AND YEAH.
STILL TAKES SOME TIME, SOME TIME.
I WAS JUST THINKING, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH STEPHANIE? UM, UH, MIKE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
HUH? HOW CAN WE DISCUSS IT IF WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT? WELL, WE, WELL, THAT'S WHAT MIKE'S POINT IS, LIKE HOW LET'S, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE PROCESS? SO I, STEPHANIE IS GOING TO SEND, RESEND IT AROUND.
I WONDER IF WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS PRETTY MUCH VIA EMAIL BETWEEN NOW SO AND 12TH.
YOU THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE? YES.
I, I MEAN THIS IS A WONDERFUL PIECE.
WE'D LOVE TO PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
THIS, WE DON'T HAVE TO RUSH IT THIS THROUGH.
WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME AND, AND DO A MORE THOROUGH JOB.
WHAT I WAS SAYING IS HOW CAN WE DISCUSS THE D E I S IF WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT? OH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SEND IT AHEAD.
WE'RE, WE'RE AT A INTERESTED AGENCY.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BE NOTICED WHEN EVERYONE ELSE HAS NOTICED.
HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT THAT COULD HAPPEN.
WELL, IT HAPPENS AND THEY DO THEIR PRESENTATION AND WE PUSH BACK AND WHEN READY TO COMMENT, WE JUST SAY WE'RE NOT READY TO COMMENT.
I MEAN, I DON'T, I MEAN, IF SOMETHING ARRIVES AT THE HOUSE THE DAY BEFORE AND IT'S THIS THICK, I DO NOT EXPECT MYSELF OR ANYBODY ELSE TO GO THROUGH IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A REASONABLE EXPECTATION.
AND NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THAT EXPECTATION.
WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING JUST TO, UM, HE DIDN'T, YES, WE, THE ATTORNEY WAS, BUT HE DIDN'T SAY WHO THE ATTORNEY WAS NOT THAT STEINS GUY AT ALL.
STEINS WAS STEINS WHEN THEY STARTED OUT.
IT WAS STEIN'S ACROSS THE STREET TOO.
UH, I THINK YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING, SHARON.
THERE ARE SOME ISSUES ON THIS ONE.
YOU KNOW, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD KIND OF RECOMMENDED IN THE CAC C RECOMMENDATION ON METROPOLIS IS THAT THEY DO A STUDY TEAM AFTER THE METROPOLIS THING GOT RESOLVED AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH SENIOR HOUSING.
NOW THIS AGAIN, COMES INTO THAT AREA OF SENIOR HOUSING.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR STUFF TO BE ALLOWED BECAUSE QUOTE IS 55 AND OVER.
AND THEY HAVE ALL THESE BUILT-IN PREMISES THAT ARE, ARE BASED ON SOME BOGUS NATIONAL STATISTICS WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE 55 DON'T WORK.
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AND, AND WIVES DON'T WORK.I MEAN, IT WAS VERY, IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING KIND OF.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE CHILDREN AT 55 WHO WERE STILL IN SCHOOL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE HAVING CHILDREN LATER AND LATER, UM, IS NOT AT ALL UNUSUAL.
NOW, WHEN I WAS A KID, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE UNUSUAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE FIRST MET WITH THESE FOLKS.
I POINTED OUT THAT WHEN MY FATHER WAS 55, HE IN HIGH SCHOOL.
SO IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE, AND TODAY IT'S REALLY NOT UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THEIR FIFTIES TO HAVE SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN.
SO THEY, THEY BUILD A LOT OF THEIR, YOU SHOULD GIVE US STUFF ON PREMISES OF WE'RE 55 AND WE'RE NOT MAKING IN ALL THESE BURDENS, SO THEREFORE WE SHOULD GET THIS AND RETURN.
AND I'M NOT SO CONVINCED THAT WHAT THEIR PREMISES IS ACCURATE, NOR DO I UNDERSTAND.
AND NO ONE HAS PUT FORTH LEGISL HOW LEGISLATIVELY YOU CAN BAR CHILDREN FROM A COMMUNITY
BUT YOU COULD TRAP 'EM IN TENTS AND, UH, YOU KNOW,
I DIDN'T HEAR THE, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE, SO PEOPLE WERE TALKING AT THE SAME TIME.
STEINMAN IS OR IS NOT THE LAWYER FOR THIS.
HE'S AT LEAST HE WAS WHEN THEY STARTED OUT.
OKAY, WELL THEN SHARON, THE ANSWER IS YOU BETTER READ IT AND YOU BETTER READ IT TWICE AND COME AS SHARP AS YOU CAN GET SOME SLEEP.
I'M NOT FEELING ALL THAT TERRIFIC.
I, I, I STAYED FOR THE, I STAYED FOR THE INVASIVES.
I DID NOT GET THE EMAIL EITHER.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT SHARON GET IT BECAUSE, UH, SHE'S A, SHE'S A, SHE'S A MASTER.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE WORK THROUGH THIS TO THE EXTENT WE CAN THROUGH, UH, THROUGH EMAILS.
UM, BUT YOU, I IT IS JUST GREAT.
UH, YOUR WRITING STYLE IS, IS VERY, VERY GOOD.
SHARON MAY WANT MORE IN IT THAN SOME OF US DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL REACH A COMPROMISE ON THAT.
UH, UH, BECAUSE WE WILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT THE, THE ATTENTION SPAN WE'LL GET WHEN WE SEND THIS TO THE TOWN BOARD, YOU MAKE MORE OF AN IMPACT.
UH, LESS WILL BE BETTER ACTUALLY.
UM, SO, UM, I, UH, DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN IMPACT STATEMENT IS, STEPHANIE? NO.
I'M GONNA SEND YOU AN EMAIL, WHICH WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY DISCUSS IN DECEMBER.
UH, EVERYBODY'S SEEN IT AND WE'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH AARON AND GARRETT.
WE HAVE THIS LAW IN NEW, A STATE LAW IN NEW YORK CALLED SE Q R S E, QR STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT.
AND I, AND I, WELL, YOU AND YOU AND 30 MILLION OTHER NEW MY MIKE IS DONE A WONDERFUL SET OF CHEETAH NOTES.
AND, UH, THIS IS, UM, SO I'LL SEND YOU THIS.
AND THIS IS THE BACKGROUND OF WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, ELMWOOD.
NOW ELM ELMWOOD WAS, WHAT A, UH, I FORGOT IT, IT WAS A, IT'S A, A GOLF COURSE OR SOMETHING.
IT WAS A GOLF CLUB WHICH WENT UNDER AND OR CLOSED DOWN.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT IT WHEN HE FIRST MOVED DOBBS FERRY ROAD, DOBS FER ROAD, HE FIRST CAME IN, SAID, WELL, FROM THE, THE RANGE OPPOSITE THE RANGE, HE SAID, OH, I'LL DO WHATEVER THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
AND THE COMMUNITY WANTS, SAID WE'D LIKE PRIVATE HOUSES.
WHICH ZONE FOR, HE CAME BACK AND ACTUALLY THE DAY HE CAME IN, HE SAID, WELL, THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE THIS.
AND I REMEMBER LOOKING AT IT, WAS IT CLUSTER HOUSING? I FORGET WHAT HE CAME BACK TO.
WELL, NOW IT WAS, WELL IT WAS, IT WAS A BIT OF CLUSTERING.
BUT WHAT HE DID IS HE WANTED MORE UNITS AND THE DAY, 'CAUSE I WAS INVITED BY DOREEN TO COME WHO WAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I WAS JUST THERE BECAUSE, AND I LOOKED AT THE PIECE OF, OF PAPER, AND I'M JUST, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBER WAS ON THE PUT EXACTLY THAT IT SHOULD, BUT I KNEW THERE WERE MORE UNITS OF WHAT I WAS BEING SHOWN, AND HE WAS GIVEN A LITTLE CRAPPY, LITTLE CRAPPY PIECE AT THE END.
RIGHT OVER THE, OVER THE TENSION WIRE ALL THE WAY.
IT'S GONNA GIVE US A COUPLE OF ACRES THAT THEY COULDN'T SELL BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING UNDER THE HIGH TENSION WIRES.
SO HE'S LOOKING FOR A GIVE BACK OF MORE UNITS.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS GETTING INTO THIS THING OF, WELL, TO MAKE THE DEAL, I NEED SOMETHING EXTRA.
AND I THINK I'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS THING, REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT IS, I DON'T
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UNDERSTAND, AS A PURELY GOOD CAPITALIST.DOES, DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT THEY, THEY DIDN'T, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T BUY SOMETHING AND INVEST MONEY IF YOU, IF YOU NEED THE EXTRA, YOU BUY IT AND THEN YOU HOPE TO GET THE EXTRA, MAKE MORE MONEY.
BUT YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T INVEST IN SOMETHING ON THE ASSUMPTION THEY'RE GETTING THE EXTRA, I MEAN, THEY, THEY CLEARLY, THEY GOT A NECK DECK.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD WE BE TALKING TO THEM? SO, SO YEAH.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GETTING ALL THAT, ALL THE, UH, DOT'S A, UH, I'S A DOTTED AND T'S ACROSS.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IS THIS GUY'S OPERATION IS HE DOESN'T ACTUALLY BUILD IT.
HE GETS IT ALL ZONED AND THEN SELLS IT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE WHAT THOSE, THOSE GUYS FROM THE, UH, NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION.
AND WHAT THEY DO, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
IS THAT JUST A BOGUS TITLE? AND IT DOESN'T MATTER, TARA, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IT DOESN'T MATTER TO THE TOWN BOARD, DOESN'T MATTER TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
YOU JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO I, I THINK THE THING IS THAT, WELL, IT DOES MATTER IF THEY'RE, IF IT MAY I FINISH MY, IF THEY'RE PREDICATING OUR GETTING, GIVING THEM SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING ACREAGE AND THEY'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE ACREAGE, THAT MONEY SHOULD BE BONDED OR SOMETHING.
NOT THAT WE HAVE THE TYPICAL SLIP UP IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN THE TOWN.
AND THEN WHEN IT GETS SOLD OFF AND THE BUILDER COMES IN, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND SOMEHOW NOBODY HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THEY PROMISED FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LAND.
SO, AS, AS MIKE SAID,
LET, LET, LET ME, LET ME UM, JUST MENTION ONE OTHER ISSUE WHILE WAS IN MY MIND, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I'LL PROBABLY FORGET IT.
THIS WAS A GOLF COURSE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THIS MEANS IT HAS HAD TERRIBLE CHEMICALS POURED ON THAT LAND FOR YEARS, EVERY DAY.
SO WE NEED TO REQUIRE AN ENVIRONMENTAL, HAVE THEY? UNLESS THEY'VE ALREADY HANDLED IT WAS REQUESTED.
IT WAS D I S THEY, THEY'RE SHOWING US THE D I SS IT WAS REQUESTED IN THE SPECS FOR THE, FOR THE D E I S.
REMEMBER THERE WAS A TEAM, WE'RE GONNA SEE THE, THEY'RE GONNA SHOW US THE DRAFT.
E I S YEAH, COURSE, THEY INCREASED THE CLOSENESS THAT IT HAD TO BE DONE.
DOREEN WENT OVER, THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WENT OVER IT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOT INVOLVED AND WE JUST KEPT ADDING THINGS.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ADDED, WAS A MUCH MORE THOROUGH CHECKING FOR CHEMICALS.
BECAUSE, UM, IF I, I'VE SEEN THESE REPORTS BEFORE AND IT, AND THEY COME OUT IN COLOR AND IF IT COMES OUT IN RED, UH, I THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM IN BUILDING RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
NO, WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH AND THEY COME BACK WITH, I, I MEAN, ONE OF THIS IS GETTING INTO THE TYPE OF THING THAT MIKE, YOU AND WALTER, YOU AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, THESE WERE GOING TO BE TWO STORY UNITS WITH THE BEDROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
HOW DO THEY GET THE STEIN SAID, THAT'S FINE.
HOW DO PEOPLE GET, YOU GET OLDER? I MEAN, I, I'VE HEARD TELL THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO GO UP AND DOWNSTAIRS, MIKE, BUT NOT YOU.
NO, THAT, THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY IN OUR RENOVATION, WE'RE PUTTING, IT ALL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SOMEONE WHO JUST TOLD ME THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'D RATHER THAN MOVE OR LOOK FOR A NEW HOUSE, THEY'RE JUST GONNA ADD A BED BEDROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR OFF, YOU KNOW, OFF THE DINING ROOM.
THEY'RE GONNA JUST EXTEND THE HOUSE.
THAT'S IT MUST BE JUST THE PECULIAR OLD PEOPLE.
THIS, THIS PROJECT IS A BIGGER DEAL THAN THE THREE LOTS SUBDIVISION.
BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THIS THREE LOT SUBDIVISION IS LIKE OPENING OLD WOUNDS IN MY HEART.
UM, FRANK JAO WALKED ME THROUGH THAT PROPERTY.
UH, HE TOLD ME THERE WERE INDIAN TRAILS, RIGHT? SO I WENT BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD.
I WAS LIKE, THERE'S INDIAN TRAILS.
SO HERE'S HOW THE TOWN BOARD CHECKS FOR OLD INDIAN TRAILS.
THEY PUT TAPE AROUND MAYBE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, 10 BY 12 BY 10, RIGHT? AND THEY DO PLUGS, PLUGS, PLUGS, AND THEY SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.
THEY CAME UP WITH ONE ARROWHEAD AND SIX SNAPPLE BOTTLE CAPS.
WHAT WAS I GONNA DO? YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE THE INDIAN, THEY GAVE THE ARROWHEAD
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TO THE TOWN.AND THEY, LIKE, THEY PUT IT UP IN THE, IN THE, LIKE WHEN I WAS GOING TO FIGHT, THERE WASN'T A FRAME.
SO NOW, NOW WE'RE ON A HIGHER PART.
UM, IT'S A THREE LOT SUBDIVISION.
I'M TRYING NOT TO HAVE A, LIKE A HISSY FIT.
YEAH, NO, YOUR, YOUR PARTICULAR ONE WAS ONE THAT WE WERE FENCED ABOUT THE TREE REMOVAL AND, AND THE DORKY LITTLE TREES THEY PUT IN, WHICH NOW THEY DID.
IT'S LIKE A S**T SHOW OVER THERE.
YEAH, NO, I MEAN, THEY PUT IN ALL SMALL LITTLE TREES THAT ARE GONNA DIE IN 20 YEARS.
IT'S, AND, AND THERE'S LIKE, THEY'RE, THEY PUT A SIDEWALK IN AND THERE'S SAPLINGS GROWING UP THROUGH THE SIDEWALK.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE A
THEY, THEY NEVER FORMED H S A, THEY PROMISED IT'S AN H S A, THERE'S NO H S A, UM, AND I MEAN, UGH.
THIS IS ONE OF, THIS IS WHY I SAID WITH THE ELMWOOD ONE, WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THE FAILURE TO ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO COME WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THAT TO ME IS VERY BOTHERSOME.
THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTENANCE AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, I DID ACTUALLY, I DID SEND THE TOWN, I, I SENT THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
I WAS LIKE, DON'T, DIDN'T YOU PROMISE ME THIS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? JUST TAKE A DAY OFF OF WORK AND GO KNOCK ON HIS DOOR.
I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM.
IT'S A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF THE STUFF DOESN'T GO INTO THE DEEDS ON THE, ON THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.
YOU KNOW HOW WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS THING THAT WE WANTED STUFF TO GO INTO DEEDS AND IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE DEEDS.
SO IT, IT'S A, IT'S A CULTURAL THING AND ALL WE CAN KEEP DOING IS WORKING WITH, TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE WHAT WE HAD WITH THOMAS MADDEN AND WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S COMPLETELY ADVERSE TO ANY KIND OF, UH, TRUE COOPERATION.
SO ALL WE CAN DO IS CONTINUE TO WORK AND TAKE OUR LITTLE VICTORIES AND HOPE FOR MORE.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S LIKE WHAT? ITS, WHO HAD A ROLL? THE, THE, THE STONE UP THE HILL.
I'M VERY GOOD AT THE NEW YORK TIMES PUB PUZZLES 'CAUSE OF THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS EVENING? OKAY, THAT GIVES US TIME TO, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO STEPHANIE.
YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH STEPHANIE.
AND UH, OKAY, SO WE HAVE, UM, UH, WE HAVE A WHOLE HOUR BEFORE THE DEBATE.
MIKE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE YOUR DINNER
AND UH, WHAT I WILL DO, TERRY, IS I WILL CLEAN THIS UP AND SEND IT TO YOU AND YOU CAN SEND IT TO USE THIS AS A BASE TO DISCUSS WITH GINA.
AND THEN IF YOU WANT CHANGES, LET ME KNOW, BUT WE WON'T SEND IT RIGHT AWAY TO THE TOWN BOARD.
WAIT FOR YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WITH GINA.
SEE IF WE CAN GET, HAVE, HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH HER DIALOGUE.
'CAUSE IF SHE'S NOT WILLING TO HAVE A DIALOGUE, THEN, THEN WE'LL SEND IT DAD.
BUT IF SHE'S WILLING TO HAVE A DIALOGUE, YOU KNOW, THEN, YOU KNOW.
AND IF NEED BE, WE CAN HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEETING.
IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, UM, THAT GINA WANTS AND, AND EVERYBODY, I THINK, I THINK WHAT GINA WANTS IS IT MORE STRINGENT? I THINK SHE WANTS THINGS OUT.
YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.