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UH, GOOD EVENING.UM, WELCOME TARA GREENBERG, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING, UH, TONIGHT.
IT'S, UM, UH, OCTOBER 28TH AT 7 39, UH, PM AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE UNITED STATES AMERICA IN REPUBLIC, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, NATION INVISIBLE, JUSTICE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
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THE, UM, THE ROLL CALL FROM THE TOWN CLERK.TOWN SUPERVISOR PAUL FINER HERE.
PRESENT COUNCILWOMAN DIANA NER.
COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN, PRESENT ACCOUNT ATTORNEY TIM LEWIS PRESENT.
UM, AND NEXT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
UM, IN MEMORY OF, UM, RICK, UM, TURNER, FREDERICK TURNER, FORMER GREEN BROOK, TOWN ATTORNEY NINE WHO SERVED, UM, 1992 TO 2000.
HE WAS, UM, AN EXCELLENT ATTORNEY.
HE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD, UH, FOR THE TOWN AS TOWN ATTORNEY.
UM, HE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE, AND WAS SOMEBODY WHO HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, UM, PERSONAL INTEGRITY AND VERY, VERY ETHICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, PERSON WHO REALLY, UM, CARED ABOUT DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE.
SO HE IS GREATLY, UM, MISSED AND IT'S VERY, VERY SAD.
UH, RICK DID APPEAR BEFORE THE TOWN, UM, AS AN ATTORNEY, UM, UM, REPRESENTING CLIENTS, UH, AFTER HIS TENURE AS A TOWN ATTORNEY.
AND YEAH, HE WAS JUST A REALLY, UH, GREAT HUMAN BEING.
WE ALSO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE, UM, IN HONOR AND IN MEMORY OF, UM, MALCOLM, UM, YOU KNOW, SCHREYER, UM, UM, MALCOLM SCHREYER, UM, WAS VERY ACTIVE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY.
HE WAS INVOLVED IN, UH, VETERAN, UM, UM, AFFAIRS.
HE SPOKE AT SOME OF OUR VETERAN'S DAY, UM, UH, EVENTS AND WAS INVOLVED IN OTHER ACTIVITIES RELATING, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE VETERANS WAS VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN, UH, THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR, FOR MA MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, HAD VERY, UH, UH, HE WAS ALWAYS VERY CONSTRUCTIVE, UH, VERY FAIR MINDED, REAL ASSETS TO OUR, UM, OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW, UM, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS MAY WANNA, UM, ALSO COMMENT ABOUT RICK AND, UM, MALCOLM SCHREYER.
WELL, I THOUGHT THAT YOU, MCCAULEY WAS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT MALCOLM.
YOU WAS GONNA SPEAK ABOUT, HE, HE WAS, HE WAS A NEIGHBOR OF MINE, AND WHENEVER I'D GO AROUND GETTING SIGNATURES, I, I WOULD ALWAYS ENJOY STOPPING AT HIS HOUSE, AND WE WOULD BASICALLY SPEND 20 MINUTES, OR, OR SO, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST TALKING ABOUT SO MANY THINGS.
HE HAD SUCH A, A DIVERSE BACKGROUND, UH, BUT I THINK, UH, YOU WOULD BE, UH, THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO, UH, TALK ABOUT IT.
AND BY THE WAY, WHAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN IS THE LINK TO THE LIVING HISTORY, UH, VIDEO THAT YOU INTERVIEWED, MALCOLM.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT IT UP ON THE, ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT, UH, UH, AS PART OF THE AGENDA, SO THAT IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, IT'S, IT'S AN AMAZING STORY THAT, UH, HE TELLS.
MY NAME IS CAULEY AND, UM, TONIGHT, I'M, I'M REPRESENTING THE VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND, UM, THE VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE SECOND HERO THAT WE'VE LOST IN THE LAST YEAR, IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, ACTUALLY.
AND JUST TO TELL YOU FROM A VETERAN'S PERSPECTIVE ABOUT, UH, MALCOLM, WHAT A TERRIFIC INDIVIDUAL HE WAS.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL WATCH MASH ON TELEVISION WITH THE DOCTORS AND THE NURSES AND THE HELICOPTERS LANDING, AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
HE STARTED AS A YOUNG LIEUTENANT AND, UM, FLYING THOSE MASH HELICOPTERS IN FROM THE FRONT
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LINES.AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LISTEN TO HIM TALK ABOUT IT, HE MADE IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS JUST GOING TO WORK EVERY DAY AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING SHOT DOWN AND, AND ALL THIS STUFF, AND, AND TRYING TO SAVE AS MANY LIVES DAY AFTER DAY.
AND WHEN WE WERE OFF CAMERA, I, I ASKED HIM ONCE, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW DID THAT FEEL? AND HE SAID THAT HE WAS MANDATED TO GO INTO ONE OF THE, OR ROOMS AND IN THE MASH, AND THE BLOOD WAS AS DEEP AS HIS BOOTS, AND THERE WERE BODY PARTS EVERYWHERE, AND HE NEVER FORGOT THAT HE WAS NOT THE ONE BEING OPERATED ON.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TERRIFIC JUST TO TELL YOU, UM, I'LL READ SOME OF THESE METALS AND THEY, THEY MAY NOT HAVE MEANING TO, TO NON-MILITARY PEOPLE, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU SAW THE CHEST THAT THAT WENT WITH THE, THE NUMBER OF RIBBONS AND STUFF, HE HAD A BRONZE STAR, A MERITORIOUS METAL AIR METAL.
HE GOT SIX AIR MEDALS, ARMY COMMENDATION MEDALS, UH, VIETNAM.
HE DID SO MANY TOURS IN VIETNAM, PULLING PEOPLE AGAIN OFF THE FRONT LINES, GETTING THEM IN, UM, NAVY, UH, A VIETNAM CROSS FOR GALLANTRY.
AND HE HAD ALL KINDS OF OTHER STUFF.
HE, HE DID SOME STUFF FOR THE MILITARY THAT HE DON'T, HE NEVER TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT, THAT IS JUST A, A GOOD PERSON TO BE AROUND.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS MARRIED FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 66, 70 YEARS.
AND, UH, GREAT FAMILY, GREAT THING.
YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK BACK IN THESE LAST FOUR MONTHS, THERE WAS OUR OTHER, UH, MEMBER SERGEANT WILLIAM HANNIBAL ROBINSON.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I TALKED TO THEM AND INTERVIEWED THEM BOTH SERGEANT WILLIAM HANNIBAL ROBINSON, AND HANNITY AND COLONEL SCHREYER, THEY BOTH SPENT MOST OF THEIR CAREERS RESCUING MEN OFF THE FRONT LINES, BRINGING THEM BACK TO HOSPITALS, AND THEN GOING RIGHT BACK UP TO THE FRONT LINES TO BRING THEM BACK.
AND I WAS SAYING BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED THAT IT, IT WOULD, I CAN ONLY THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF LIVES THEY SAVED AND THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THEIR HEROIC ACTIONS.
AND WHEN I ASKED THEM, THEY JUST SAID THEY WERE DOING THEIR JOBS.
THERE'S A LINE FROM A MOVIE AND IT SAYS, UM, PEOPLE ASK ME, WAS I A HERO IN THE MILITARY? AND I ANSWER, NO, BUT I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE WITH HEROES HERE AT HOME.
WHAT A GREAT COUPLE OF GUYS, AND HE'S GONNA REALLY BE MISSED.
YEAH, HE WAS ACTUALLY MARRIED IN 1952, AND APPARENTLY IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY BIG DEAL BECAUSE THE NEW YORK TIMES HAD A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL STORY ABOUT HIS WIFE BEING WED TO THIS PERSON THAT, AND, AND IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME THAT WE LEARN MORE ABOUT PEOPLE AFTER THEY'RE GONE FROM, YOU KNOW, TRIBUTES LIKE THIS.
UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT, UM, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT IT HAPPENS THAT WAY BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH TO OFFER, AND IT'S A SHAME THAT WE, WE SHARE AFTER THEY'RE GONE.
AND IT'S, AS THEY SAY, IT'S, IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD DO IT WHILE THEY COULD ST STILL, UH, SMELL THE FLO FLOWERS.
WELL, I THINK IN MALCOLM'S CASE, I MEAN, HE REALLY ENJOYED THE DEDICATION OF DESANT PLAZA.
THERE WAS SO MANY THINGS THAT, UH, HE GOT TO EXPERIENCE, AND YOU AS AMA, YOU, H U G H WAS A MAJOR PART OF THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND, AND SPEAK.
DO, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE NEW YORK TIMES, UH, WEDDING ANNOUNCEMENT? BECAUSE WE, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO POST THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, MALCOLM WAS KNOWN BY SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND HE, UH, IMPACTED PEOPLE'S LIVES IN A VERY POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, MANNER.
AND I AND HIS WIFE ALSO, UM, HAS PLAYED A, A REALLY POSITIVE ROLE IN, UM, IN, IN GREENBERG LIFE FOR SO MANY YEARS.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD JUST BE REALLY INTERESTED TO, TO READ THEIR, UH, WEDDINGS ANNOUNCEMENT.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING.
'CAUSE DIANE AND AND MALCOLM WERE AMAZING, UH, GREENBERG RESIDENTS AND, UH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A WONDERFUL, UH, WAR HERO AS WELL, BUT, UH, BUT DIANE HAD A LOT OF CONTRIBUTIONS IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY TOO.
INSEPARABLE, RIGHT? THE, UH, NEW YORK TIMES DOESN'T HAVE IT DIGITIZED, UH, AS FAR AS THE TEXT, BUT THERE IS A PAGE, YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE, THE PAGE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES, AND, UH, I'LL, I'LL DIG THAT OUT.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, NEXT, UM, UM, I JUST WANTED DO THAT, PAUL, I
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JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE THAT WE WOULD SAY SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT RICK TURNER, BUT I, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, RICK DID A, YOU KNOW, A REALLY GREAT JOB WHEN HE WAS A TOWN ATTORNEY, AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING, WORKING WITH HIM AND, AND THE ATTORNEYS IN, IN THE OFFICE.AND HE, HE WAS ALWAYS VERY, VERY DILIGENT AND, AND ALWAYS OUT THERE TRYING TO, UH, DO WHAT HE COULD FOR, FOR THE TOWN.
AND, UM, SO HE WOULD, HE WILL BE MISSED.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK, AND MAYBE YOU COULD CORRECT ME, DI UH, DIANA, UM, UH, BEFORE VALOR WAS BUILT, UM, WASN'T THERE LIKE A, A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, CHEMICALS, YOU KNOW, AT THAT, AT THAT LOCATION? I THINK RICK, UH, USED HIS, UM, KNOWLEDGE TO HELP, UH, OVERSEE THE, THE CLEANUP.
AND, UM, I, I, I BELIEVE HE WAS A TOWN ATTORNEY WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT WHOLE CONTROVERSY, YOU KNOW, CAME ABOUT AND HE HELPED US TURN A CONTROVERSY INTO A A PLUS.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAR NOW, UM, WE, THERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE GETTING RHEES AND GETTING SICK.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A GOOD ATTORNEY, IT WAS TER IT WAS TERRIBLE.
PEOPLE COULDN'T OPEN THEIR WINDOWS BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS BEING BURIED IN THAT PROPERTY AND THE THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING.
YEAH, IT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY, YEAH, THAT WAS A BIG FIGHT.
AND, AND, UM, THAT TURNED OUT TO BE QUITE, QUITE, IT'S QUITE NICE NOW.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ABOUT RICK, THAT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HIM ON A VERY IMPORTANT CASE, UH, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG A FEW YEARS AGO.
AND I FOUND HIM TO BE A MAN OF INTEGRITY AND OF REGARD FOR EVERYONE REGARDLESS AS TO THEIR TITLE OR THEIR POSITION WITHIN THE TOWN.
IT'S A LITTLE INSIDE BASEBALL, BUT ANYONE WHO KNOWS, IF YOU ASKED RICK A QUESTION THAT HE HAD TO THINK MORE THAN 10 SECONDS TO ANSWER, HE WOULD SAY IT WAS A, WHAT AM I GONNA SAY, DIANA? NAUGHTY ISSUE.
A NAUGHTY ISSUE,
EVERYTHING BECAME A NAUGHTY ISSUE, WHICH MEANS THERE'S, THERE, IT'S, IT'S NOT SO CLEAR CUT AND IT WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, UM, AGAIN, IT'S A SHAME, YOU KNOW, AFTER THEY'RE GONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT, UH, BEFORE WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PRE THE PRESENTATION, UH, WE'RE FIRST GONNA DO THE POLICE PRESENTATION ISN'T THAT FIRST.
UM, BUT BEFORE WE, I, I THINK THAT I SAW THAT ON THE AGENDA, BUT BEFORE WE DID THAT, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT FRIDAY I'M GONNA BE, UM, UM, RELEASING, UH, THE PROPOSED, UM, 2020, UH, BUDGET.
I STILL HAVE TO, UM, GO OVER ALL THE NUMBERS, BUT IT SEEMS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKELY THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE NO TAX INCREASE IN, UM, IN, UH, 2021, UH, RELATING TO, UM, BOTH THE A BUDGET AND, UM, AND THE B BUDGET.
UM, UM, SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK ROBERTA, UM, ROMANO FOR WORKING REALLY HARD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I HAVE TO, UH, UH, SPEND SOME TIME, UH, TONIGHT AFTER THE MEETING AND TOMORROW WORKING, WORKING ON THE BUDGET.
BUT AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THERE'LL BE NO TAX HIKE, UM, IN 2021 FOR THE TOWN PORTION OF THE TAXES.
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GREAT.NEXT, UH, GINA, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, INTRODUCE, UM, UH, YOUR COMMITTEE AND TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND GIVE US AN UPDATE? SURE.
OKAY, THAT, SO HOLD ON A SECOND, AND I APOLOGIZE.
UM, TOWN COUNCILWOMAN, GINA JACKSON.
UM, AS I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE REMEMBERS, BACK IN JULY, THE TOWN BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION, UM, AS WE WERE ANSWERING GOVERNOR CUOMO'S INITIATIVE ON REFORMING AND RE REINVENTING THE POLICE.
AND, UM, SO WE ESTABLISHED THE GREENBERG AGAINST SYSTEMIC RACISM TASK FORCE.
SO TONIGHT WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS FAR.
I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE.
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UH, SUCH A STRONG, GREAT COMMITTEE.UM, I HAVE SUCH STRONG, GREAT COMMUNITY THAT HAS COME TOGETHER WITH SUCH GREAT INSIGHT AND JUST A WILLINGNESS TO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE GREENBERG AND MAKE THE CHANGES THAT, UM, WE FOUND NECESSARY.
UM, THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN SHEEN AND COUNCILMAN JONES FOR, UM, THE SUPPORT.
THEY HAVEN'T MISSED A MEETING YET, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, BUT, SO I'M NOT GONNA RELAY ANYTHING.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HOWARD TRIBBLE, WHO WAS THE CHAIR OF GREENBURG'S SYSTEMIC RACISM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, PIECE OF IT.
SO HOWARD, UM, FRANCIS, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE HIM, SHOULD BE ABLE TO MUTE HIMSELF.
HOWARD, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN.
UM, I AM HOWARD TRIPLE THE CO-CHAIR OF THE GREENBERG AGAINST SYSTEMIC RACISM TASK FORCE.
I FIRST LIKE TO THANK SUPERVISOR PAUL FINER AND THE TOWN BOARD FOR GIVING THE TASK FORCE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, UH, THUS FAR.
WE KNOW BACK IN APRIL, 2020 FOLLOWING, THE POLICE INVOLVED DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD IN MINNESOTA, PROTESTS HAD TAKEN PLACE THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS NEW YORK STATE.
IN RESPONSE TO THE POLICE INVOLVED DEATH AND RACIALLY BIASED LAW ENFORCEMENT, GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER, UH, NUMBER, UH, 2 0 3, UH, TASKING EACH STATE MUNICIPALITY TO CONVENE A TASK FORCE TO EXAMINE RELATIONS WITH POLICE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND PROPOSE WAYS TO IMPROVE THOSE RELATIONS.
GINA? NO, UH, MS. JACKSON, I'M SORRY.
IN RESPONSE TO THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, UH, REQUIRED EACH STATE MUNICIPALITIES TO CONVENE A TASK FORCE TO EXAMINE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN POLICE AND THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY SERVE AND PROPOSED WAYS TO PROPOSE THESE RELATIONS.
THE TOWN OF GREENBERG TOWN BOARD APPOINTED COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON TO CHAIR THE GREENBERG AGAINST THE SYSTEMIC RACISM TASK FORCE AND THE DIRECTION OF COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON TOWN.
RESIDENTS WERE SELECTED TO PARTICIPATE ON THE TASK FORCE.
MEMBERS WERE SOLICITED FOR PARTICIPATION BASED UPON THEIR RESPECTIVE EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE ORDERS SPECI.
THE ORDER ALSO SPECIFIED INCLUSION OF CHIEF OF POLICE AND A MEMBER OF THE WESTCHESTER, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE TASK FORCE INCLUDED TOWN, UM, POLICE CHIEF CHRIS MCNERNEY AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UH, CHIEF ADE MEZA.
THERE WERE THREE PILLAR STRATEGIES, AND I LIKE TO CALL THEM, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES.
THE FIRST WAS RECRUITMENT, TRAINING AND PROMOTION.
THE SECOND WAS THE COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT.
AND OUR THIRD, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE WAS OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY, STARTING WITH THE FIRST RECRUITMENT, TRAINING AND PROMOTION.
THIS COMMITTEE WAS STAFFED BY CAROL ALLEN, BRIDGET BROWN, LEN GOODMAN, COUNCILMAN KEN JONES AND LEON SMITH.
THEY WERE CHARGED TO REVIEW THE WAYS THE TOWN OF GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT SELECTED HIRES, TRAINS, AND PROMOTE POLICE OFFICERS, INCLUDING REVIEWING HOW POTENTIAL CANDIDATES ARE SCREENED FOR PRE-EXISTENT BIAS, VERIFYING PROCEDURES IN PLACE OF OFFICERS TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF CONSCIOUS AND UNCONSCIOUS BIAS AS IT IMPACTS METHODS OF POLICING.
WE ALSO TO ENSURE MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT REFLECT THE COMMUNITY.
THE SECOND, THE COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT, THE COMMITTEE, UH, MEMBERS THAT WERE STAFFING THIS COMMITTEE WAS JANEA FORTE, DELIA MAXIS, LETTERER, UH, PLEXUS AND YOHAN STAGS TO REIMAGINE POLICE
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IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.REVIEW POLICIES ON DRAWING OF WEAPONS, ENGAGING AND REVIEWING SMART HOLSTER TECHNOLOGY TO DETECT AND MEASURE HOLSTER EVENTS, REVIEWING MENTAL HEALTH SLASH USE OF TECHNOLOGIES TO BE USED TO BE DEPLOYED AND UTILIZED TO SUPPORT POLICE OFFICERS IN DEALING WITH PERSONS HAVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, INVESTIGATE COMMUNITY SLASH POLICE JOINT EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP GOOD FAITH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND OUR THIRD, I SUB AND PATRICIA L AND THEY WERE TASKED TO REVIEW THE GREENBERG, UH, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO REVIEW AVENUES AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMPLAINTS ABOUT POLICE INTERACTION.
THERE'S ALSO AN INVESTIGATION PROCESS CONCERNING COMPLAINTS MADE THE REVIEW EARLY, UH, INTERVENTION SYSTEMS IN PLACE WHEN IMPROPER EXCESSIVE POLICE INTERACTION SLASH ENCOUNTERS ARE SUSPECTED OR IDENTIFIED.
REVIEW EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES TO BE DEPLOYED AND OR UTILIZED TO SUPPORT GREATER POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND REVIEW USE OF BODY CAM FOOTAGE IN INVESTIGATING CIVILIAN COMPLAINTS.
ACTIVITIES TO DATE, WE HAVE HELD, UH, TO AND OBTAINED VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR THE TASK FORCE.
WE ALSO HAD ONLINE SURVEYS, WHICH WERE, ARE PROVIDED FOR RESIDENTS IN THE EVENT THEY FELT UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSING.
WE ALSO HELD MEETING MEMBERS OF THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DISCUSS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AS WELL AS PATROL FUNCTIONS.
UH, WE, WE INVITE THE COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATION, UH, UNIT AS WELL AS SERGEANT NORMAN HALL, THE COMMANDER OF THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, UH, UNIT, AND AS WELL AS SERGEANT NATHAN RESON THE COM, UH, COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE TRAFFIC UNIT.
I BELIEVE THAT ENDS THE SLIDES AT THIS TIME.
IF THERE BE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL TRY AND ENTERTAIN, UH, THOSE AND DO MY BEST, UH, MY BEST TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THAT YOU'D BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD? JANUARY, YES.
THE PLAN AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD IN JANUARY SO WE CAN GET EVERYTHING BACK AND RECEIVE AND MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION, TAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN WE WILL SUBMIT FOR THE APRIL 1ST DEADLINE AS OUTLINED IN THE GOVERNOR'S INITIATIVE.
I'M SURE EVERY, UH, TO YOU, UM, AND YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR DEDICATION AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A, A REALITY PROFESSIONAL JOB, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I HAVE THE BEST COMMITTEE EVER, SO ENFORCEMENT CAM HERE, APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HARD WORK.
CAROL, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY THAT WE HAVE, UH, CREATED.
AS SOON AS WE TAKE DOWN THE WEBCAM FROM, UH, TOWN HALL'S ELECTION LINE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LINK PLACED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF OUR TOWN WEBSITE SO THAT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND YES, SO, AND ALSO WE WOULD HAVE IT BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THROUGH THIS ELECTION.
AND AS SOON AS, UM, WE, UH, CONCLUDE THAT, THEN WE WILL DEFINITELY POST THE LINK AND WE HOPE TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE, AND WE WILL, WE'LL ALSO POST OUR NEXT OPEN FORUM ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME AND JOIN
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WHETHER, LISTEN, PARTICIPATE, ANYTHING.WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
UM, HOWARD, UM, I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE COMMITTEES.
IS THERE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, COORDINATION, UM, AS TO, YOU KNOW, IF ONE COMMUNITY IS COMING UP WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS? ARE ARE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY SHARING? UH, THE, THE SUGGESTIONS AND THE WORK THAT THE, THEIR COMMITTEE IS DOING WITH, WITH OTHER TASK FORCE AROUND THE COUNTY? WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY HAD ANY COORDINATION WITH, UM, SUCH AS THE COUNTY COMMITTEE, BUT I AM IN TOUCH WITH, UM, MEMBERS SUCH AS THE WHITE PLAINS COMMITTEE AND AS WELL AS THE COUNTY COMMITTEE.
SO WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHERE THEY ARE, UH, IN THEIR PROCESS.
UH, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING ONE OF THE MEMBERS, UH, FROM THE COUNTY COME AND SPEAK TO OUR, UH, TASK FORCE.
AND THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IS, UM, AND I MENTIONED THIS, YOU KNOW,
IT'S WAS PUT OUT BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, UH, CALLED NEW YORK STATE POLICE REFORM AND REINVENTION, COLLABORATIVE, UH, RESOURCES AND GUIDES FOR PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND CITIZENS.
AND, UM, IT WOULD BE INTER, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE LIKE TONS OF ISSUES AND QUESTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, AND COMMENTS AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE SUBJECT, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EXTREMELY, UH, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I DO SIT ON THE COUNTY COMMITTEE AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LEGAL AID SOCIETY.
SO THERE IS CROSSPOLLINATION BETWEEN THE TWO COMMITTEES.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MY SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, UH, OF THE COUNTY COMMITTEE HAS MADE IN OUR SMALL, IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, OF THE TOWNS COMMITTEE.
AND AS, AS, AS ATTENDING MANY OF THESE MEETINGS, I, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THE INTENSITY OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE NICE THING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE, NO ONE'S SHY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT NOBODY BE SHY, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE BEING HELD, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, UH, THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME TO US IN JANUARY AND THAT IT GIVES US TIME TO, ON THE TOWN BOARD TO REVIEW THEM AND COME UP WITH ACTUAL, UH, UM, LOCAL LAWS SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AND DO IT BY THE DEADLINE.
AND GENERALLY, IF, IF YOU MAKE SOMETHING SO BIG, NOTHING GETS DONE.
AND THIS IS A REALLY BIG COMMITTEE, UH, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT THE WAY IT'S BEING HANDLED AND THE WAY IT'S BEING, UM, ALL THE MEMBERS ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND DOING A LOT OF HOMEWORK BETWEEN MEETINGS.
UH, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT RESULT FROM THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN.
IF I COULD JUST ONE OTHER THING.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, THE DIRECTOR OF THE LEGAL AID SOCIETY, CLAIRE DEON, THAT IS ON OUR, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE OF OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AS WELL AS KEN JONES.
SO WE DO HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE LEGAL AID SOCIETY THAT ARE ON EACH TASK FORCE.
SO WE ARE LINKED TOGETHER IN THAT WAY.
AND SHE SAID ON THE CHAT SECTION, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMITTEE AS GOOD AS GREENBERG.
[ PRESENTATIONS Proposed Village of Ardsley Highway Garage near Anthony F. Veteran Park entrance Westchester Power Post Contract Presentation - Carmen Santos]
GOOD.UM, NEXT, UM, UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY RELATING TO, UH, THEIR HIGHWAY GARAGE.
I'M NEAR ANTHONY VETERAN PARK ENTRANCE, AND I HAVE THE MAYOR AND, UM, AND, UH, THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR MAYOR.
MY NAME IS NANCY KABUL AND I'M THE MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY.
ON WITH ME TONIGHT ARE OUR CONSULTANTS FROM WESTON AND SAMPSON IN CALGARY CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'LL HEAR A LITTLE BIT LATER FROM THEM, OUR VILLAGE MANAGER, MEREDITH ROBSON, OUR D P W FOREMAN, DAVID D GREGORIO, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR, ANDY DIGO, AND TRUSTEES JOANNE EMILIO AND STEVE EDELSTEIN.
I WANNA THANK SUPERVISOR FINER AND THE BOARD FOR TAKING TIME OUT TO ALLOW US TO SHOW YOU THE LAYOUT FOR LEY NEW LEYS NEW HIGHWAY GARAGE, AND TO DISCUSS THE TOWN'S EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPOSED ROAD.
ARDSLEY IS EXCITED TO BUILD THIS NEW D P W ON HEATHERDALE, AND WE'RE HOPING TO START BUILDING SOON.
SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN OUR PLANS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THEM AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROS PRO PROCESS
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COOPERATIVELY WITH THE TOWN.TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS ONLY THE EASEMENT AND THE ROADWAY.
I WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON LEYS.
D P W IS IN HORRIBLE CONDITION.
THE CURRENT SITE SITS ON A NEW YORK STATE THROUGH AWAY AUTHORITY PROPERTY, AND IS VERY SMALL AND UNUSABLE, UNUSABLE.
THE GARAGE WAS MOVED TO THAT CURRENT SITE IN 1978 AS A TEMPORARY SITE UNTIL IT, UNTIL THE VILLAGE FOUND A MORE SUITABLE LOCATION.
UH, THE VILLAGE USES THE PROPERTY UNDER A PERMIT BY THE NEW YORK STATE THROUGHWAY.
THE CURRENT FACILITY IS INACTIVE IN INADEQUATE, INEFFICIENT, AND IN POOR CONDITION.
THE VILLAGE HAS SOUGHT FOR YEARS TO FIND A SITE TO BUILD A HIGHWAY GARAGE.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT MANY SITES OVER THE YEARS, AND EITHER THEY WERE UNAVAILABLE OR INAPPROPRIATE FOR A HIGHWAY SITE.
WHEN THE HEATHERDALE PROPERTY BECAME AVAILABLE, THE VILLAGE DID A FULL INVESTIGATION, INCLUDING A PRELIMINARY ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
THIS PROPERTY TURNED OUT TO BE AN APPROPRIATE SITE FOR THE NEW HIGHWAY GARAGE, BASED ON ITS LOCATION, SIZE, LACK OF SEVERE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPEDIMENTS, AND OTHER DE DEVELOPMENT CAPABILITIES.
WE UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE AND ARE SENSITIVE TO THIS AESTHETICS OF THE HIGHWAY GARAGE AT THIS SITE.
WE PLAN ON CONTINUING TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE TOWN.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT ARDSLEY NEEDS A HIGHWAY GARAGE, AND WE PLAN ON BUILDING A HIGHWAY GARAGE ON THE HEATHERDALE PROPERTY.
SO I WANNA THANK THE TOWN AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO SHOW YOU OUR LAYOUT.
I'M GONNA TURN OVER, UH, THE PRESENTATION TO OUR CONSULTANTS, UM, WESTON AND SAMPSON, UM, WHO GOES UP FIRST? GOOD EVENING.
I'M THE LEAD ARCHITECT WITH WESTON AND SAMPSON.
I HAVE WITH ME JEFF BUN MONROE LEAD, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER, AND KEVIN KELLY, WHO IS OUR STAR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND SITE DESIGNER.
UM, KEVIN WILL PROBABLY BE THE ONE TO SPEAK THE MOST ABOUT THE PARTICULARS, SYNTHES THE SITE.
UM, AND, UH, I, I WILL QUICKLY TURN IT OVER TO HIM.
UM, AS, UH, AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, REALLY OUR OBJECTIVE TONIGHT HERE IS TO DISCUSS THE EASEMENT AND THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, MODIFICATION TO THAT AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ROADWAY, UH, REALLY FOR THE, FOR THE USE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
SO KEVIN, IF YOU TAKE IT AWAY, UM, I THINK YOU'LL NEED TO SHARE A SCREEN.
DOES THE, GO AHEAD, DOES THE, OKAY.
SO EVERYBODY SEE THAT? NO, YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.
OH, YOU TOOK IT DOWN THE SHARE BUTTON.
UM, SO THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE, AND TO ORIENT YOU A LITTLE BIT, UM, THE RED OUTLINE IS THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE, THE SITE, UM, TO THE NORTH, UH, THIS CORNER OF THE PAGE.
THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER IS TO THE NORTH.
UM, OLYMPIC LANE IS ON THE WEST.
THE SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY IS ON THE EAST AND HEATHERDALE ROAD ON THE SOUTH.
THE BLUE LINE THAT CUTS THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE SITE RIGHT HERE IS THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IN EASTMAN, UH, FOR ACCESS TO THE NORTH TO THE RECREATION.
DOES THAT MEAN, UM, A LITTLE BIT CLOSER VIEW OF THAT? UM, HERE'S THE EXISTING HOUSE.
UH, THERE'S AN OUT BUILD, A COUPLE OUTBUILDINGS, A GARAGE.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE IN, IN RED HERE.
THE EXISTING POND SITS OUT FRONT HERE.
SO, UM, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE SITE.
WE TOOK, UM, THE, THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT THE TOWN NEEDED OR THE VILLAGE NEEDED TO INCLUDE IN THEIR NEW FACILITY, AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT HOW WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH MANY ITERATIONS, UM, AND WE CAME UP WITH SOME ORIGINAL I OR SOME IDEAS, UH, HAD A VERY CURSORY LOOK WITH THE TOWN, AND THEY GAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK, UM, ON SOME THINGS THEY THOUGHT WORKED AND DIDN'T WORK.
UH, SO WE WENT BACK TO THE BOARD, OR BACK TO THE, THE BOARDS AND, UH, STARTED WORKING ON IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, MASSAGING
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IT.AND WE THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT, UH, SERVES THE, THE VILLAGE WELL.
AND, UM, THE, THE COMPOSITION AND THE USE OF THE SITE DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR KEEPING THE EXISTING EASEMENT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT RESIDES TODAY.
UH, HOWEVER, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE REPLACE AND OR IMPROVE THE ACCESS, UH, THAT THE TOWN HAS FROM THE, THE PARKLANDS TO THE NORTH.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A NEW DRIVE, INSTEAD OF COMING DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE AND OUT TO HEATHERDALE, UM, THAT WOULD COME DOWN THE SLOPE, TURN A LITTLE BIT AND COME BACK OVER TO OLYMPIC LANE.
AND ALL THE TURNS HAVE BEEN CHECKED WITH, UH, AVAILABILITY OR THE USE OF LARGE VEHICLES, SUCH AS SEMI-TRAILERS.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE USING THAT AS A GUIDE, AND WE'RE MAKING IT, WE THINK, A SAFER EXIT.
UM, THIS, THIS EXIT ONTO OLYMPIC LANE GIVES, UM, UH, VERY GOOD VIEW BOTH TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH FOR SAFETY.
IT COMES OUT VERY FLAT TO THE ROAD SO THAT IT'S ALSO VERY SAFE FOR, UH, CARS STOPPING OR STARTING HERE.
UM, IN CONTRAST, THE DRIVEWAY UP TO HEATHERDALE IS ON A FAIRLY STEEP INCLINE, AND, UH, IT'S ALSO NOT AT A 90 DEGREE WITH HEATHERDALE ROAD.
SO WE, WE FEEL LIKE THIS ROAD ALTERNATIVE IS AN A SAFER ALTERNATIVE.
UM, WE ALSO ARE SHOWING A CONNECTION TO THE SITE, AND THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY COME INTO PLAY IF FOR SOME REASON OLYMPIC LANE IS BLOCKED, THAT WE HAVE, WE STILL HAVE A WAY THROUGH THE SITE THAT THE, THE TOWN WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS.
SO WE THINK WE'VE, UM, WE'VE ACCOMMODATED THE USES ON THE SITE, UM, AND ALSO KIND OF IMPROVE THE, THE ACCESS, UM, OUT TO OLYMPIC LANE.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE SITE DISTANCES, THE GRADES, UH, THE TURNING RADIUSES THAT ARE OUT AT HEATHERDALE AT OLYMPIC LANE NOW ARE, UM, ARE VERY GOOD.
SO, UM, WE WE'RE MAKING A LITTLE BIT SAFER, UH, CONNECTION TO OLYMPIC LANE, AND THEN WE KNOW THAT THE CONNECTION AT HEATHER DELL IS VERY GOOD.
UM, UM, SO REALLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS DISCUSSION, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME.
SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY HAS, IS COMING ON AUDIO AT THE SAME TIME.
THEY HAVE A SECOND SOURCE OF AUDIO.
WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK, RIGHT? SO, SO IF YOU SEE, I I MUTE YOU, IT'S NOT OUTTA DISRESPECT.
IT'S ONLY BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR SCREEN IS WRITTEN, UH, LIT UP AS CAUSING THE PROBLEM.
YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST GET CLARIFICATION FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC.
YOU KNOW, I, I LOOK AT FACEBOOK AND I LOOK AT SOME OF THE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME RESIDENTS HAVE CONCERN, YOU KNOW, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE HIGHWAY GARAGE, BUT THE VILLAGE, THIS IS VILLAGE LAND AND IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF LEY.
SO THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE, AS FAR AS I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING, HAS NO VETO POWER OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE GARAGE IS GONNA BE BUILT.
THE ONLY, UM, ISSUE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, TODAY IS WHETHER THEY WOULD, WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE NEW ACCESS ROAD.
THIS IS AN EASEMENT ISSUE, RATHER THAN WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE GARAGE IS GONNA BE BUILT IS, WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S CORRECT? IF THE TOWN SAYS NO, WE'RE NOT GOING ALONG WITH IT ACCORDING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR, THE GARAGE IS STILL GONNA BE BUILT.
WELL, OF COURSE, UH, PAUL, WE LIKE TO ALL WORK COOPERATIVELY, UH, WITH THE TOWN AND, AND CREATE THE BEST POSSIBLE SCENARIO HERE.
BUT THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY HAS LOOKED FOR A LONG TIME FOR PROPERTY TO BUILD A HIGHWAY GARAGE FOR OUR D P W.
UM, WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY FOR THE EXCLUSIVE, UH, REASON TO BUILD OUR HIGHWAY GARAGE THERE.
AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF BUILDING OUR HIGHWAY GARAGE THERE.
OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD BE, UM, BETTER FOR US IF THE TOWN, UM, PERMITTED US TO MOVE THE EASEMENT SLICE AND TO CREATE A BETTER ACCESS ROAD, WHICH WE ARE WILLING TO BUILD, UM, ALONG WITH BUILDING UP THE HIGHWAY GARAGE.
BUT, UM, UM, IF THAT CRE IF THAT BECOMES A, A PROBLEM, WE WILL BE BUILDING OUR HIGHWAY GARAGE AT THIS LOCATION NO MATTER WHAT.
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UM, MOVING THE EASEMENT OVER, UH, UM, A LITTLE BIT ALLOWS US TO PUSH THE BUILDINGS FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM OLYMPIC LANE.UM, AND SO THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE OLYMPIC LANE AND THE BUILDINGS, UM, IF WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE THE EASEMENT OVER AND OPEN UP THE ROADWAY TO PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS FOR BOTH THE TOWN AND FOR ARDSLEY ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE OWN THE PROPERTY AND WE PLAN ON BUILDING A HIGHWAY GARAGE ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THE EASEMENT WILL STILL BE THERE.
THE TOWN WILL STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY WHEN NECESSARY.
IT'S REALLY JUST CREATE, MOVING IT OVER SLIGHTLY TO ALLOW US TO PUT OUR BUILDINGS AS FAR AWAY FROM OLYMPIC LANE AS POSSIBLE.
UM, MAYOR KABUL, MAY, MAY I JUST ASK A QUESTION? UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, THAT YOU DID THAT YOU AND DID WORK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BYRNE.
I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S ON AT THE MEETING TONIGHT, BUT TO, TO WORK OUT SOME OF THIS SO THAT IT WOULD BE WORKABLE FOR THEM AS WELL AS FOR THE VILLAGE AND IN, IN THE DESIGN, THAT SOME OF THAT WAS WORKED OUT.
YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, MEREDITH, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I AM.
CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION? SURE.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH GREENBERG STAFF.
IN FACT, THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, UH, AND RECENTLY HAD A MEETING TO REVIEW THIS DESIGN WITH THEM.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM.
YOU'D CERTAINLY HAVE TO HEAR FROM THEM DIRECTLY, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS, THAT THIS WILL WORK.
MEREDITH, THIS IS, THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN DIANA NER, AND I'M, I'M LIAISON TO PARKS AND RECREATION, AND I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH JERRY BYRNE ABOUT THIS.
I I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S, I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S ON THE MEETING TONIGHT.
I WAS, I WAS LOOKING, I DIDN'T SEE HIM JUST, BUT I, BUT I DID HAVE, I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ABOUT IT, AND HE DID TALK ABOUT, UH, HAVING THE, UH, ABOUT SPEAKING WITH THE VILLAGE AND, AND WORKING SOMETHING OUT THAT WOULD BE WORKABLE FOR THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE.
WE PRESENTED THIS, UM, PROPOSAL TO SUPERVISOR FINER AND, UM, UM, FRANCIS SHEEN AND JERRY BYRNE WAS AT THAT MEETING, UM, A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN IT WAS PROPOSED THAT WE HAVE THIS ALL BOARD PRESENTATION.
UM, AND HE INDICATED THAT HE WAS GONNA TAKE IT BACK TO THE PARKS COMMISSION AND DISCUSS IT WITH THEM THAT VERY NIGHT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, UM, THE WAS THAT, UM, THEY SEEM TO BE OKAY WITH THIS PLAN.
SO, UM, AGAIN, AS MEREDITH POINTED OUT, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD CONFIRM THAT WITH HIM.
BUT THAT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING.
SO I THINK WHERE WE REALLY ARE NOW IS WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE, I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE TOWN HAS AN EASEMENT THAT GOES RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE OF YOUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BUILD WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD IF WE ENFORCE THE EASEMENT.
BUT THERE MAY BE A WAYS THAT BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE BOTH, BOTH PARTIES.
UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE REMAINING, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ARE IF WE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO EXITS, INGRESS AND EGRESS TO HEATHERDALE, THIS WOULD NOW IN THE PROPOSAL HAVE BOTH OF THE EXITS FROM THE, FROM THE PARK BASICALLY MERGE ONTO A OLYMPIC LANE.
AND WHAT IF THERE WAS A BLOCKAGE AT THE END OF OLYMPIC LANE? WE NOW HAVE TWO, TWO EXITS GOING TO BASICALLY A BLOCKAGE.
WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD TWO WAYS TO GET OUT.
AND SO, YES, WE DID MEET AND IT WAS VERY GOOD MEETING.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A PERFECT DAY TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR MEETING.
IF YOU REMEMBER, THE WIND WAS BLOWING.
WE, WE COULD DO EVERYTHING WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING AND, UH, IT WAS JUST, YOU COULDN'T BE GET A BETTER DAY.
AND IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION.
WE KNOW THAT OUR ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT THE PLAN, AND THE, THE TOWN HASN'T HAD A, A FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT OUR TECH PROFESSIONAL STAFF IS, STAFF IS STILL DOING AN EVALUATION.
BUT IF EVERYBODY CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MU MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT, THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS IS ABOUT.
UM, JUST, JUST SO THAT, UM, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE EASEMENT WILL STILL REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY AND, UM, GREENBERG WILL STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND HAVE TWO, UM, EXITS FROM THE PARK.
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ONE, YOU KNOW, OFF OLYMPIC LANE AND OFF THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE PROPERTY.IT'S A QUESTION OF MOVING THE EASEMENT OVER A LITTLE BIT.
RIGHT? SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF A CARD ACCESS TO GET TO GO THROUGH FOR, FOR OUR BUSES OR HOW THERE, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF SECURITY SYSTEM TO GO THROUGH.
I, I THINK THAT WE CAN WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD.
UM, BUT I, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY AN EASY DETAIL WE CAN WORK OUT.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THERE WAS SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WANTED TO SPEAK.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S ON ANYMORE.
UH, COULD YOU HEAR ME? UH, FRED PASS.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MY, UH, I SENT HIM SOMETHING TO THE, UH, UNDER, UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, I SENT AN EMAIL IN AND, UH, HAD A LITTLE, UH, SORT OF PRESENTATION.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD, UH, PULL THAT UP.
UH, FRANCIS, I COULD SEND IT TO YOU, UH, AGAIN.
BUT, UH, BASICALLY, BASICALLY, BASICALLY DID YOU SEND, I SENT IT TO TODAY.
UH, IT'S ON, IT'S CALLED PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, GREENBERG.COM.
UH, I SENT IT TO, TO, UH, AND, AND IT HAS A BUNCH OF PICTURES AND STUFF.
UH, UH, I TOOK A, TOOK A, LET ME SEE IF I CAN BRING IT BACK UP.
I COULD SEND IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW AGAIN, IF I COULD BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN.
UH, I COULD SEND IT DIRECTLY TO YOUR FRIEND.
SO I HAVE TWO, I HAVE ONE AN EMAIL AT 3 55 AND 3 56.
I DON'T SEE ATTACHMENTS TO THEM THOUGH.
UH, THE ONE BEFORE THAT, I COULD SEND YOU ONE RIGHT NOW, HAS PICTURES ATTACHED TO IT.
I CAN RESEND IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU GET IT IF I SENT IT TO FRANCIS SHEEN? ABSOLUTELY.
IT HAS A, IT HAS THREE PHOTOS WITH IT.
IT WAS A COUPLE OF MEGABYTES, THE PICTURES, BUT JUST, UH, I WENT OUT BEFORE I SAW THIS PRESENTATION 'CAUSE IT REALLY WASN'T ONLINE.
I, I'D LOOKED PREVIOUSLY IN MARLEY'S WEBSITE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I LOOKED DEEP ENOUGH, BUT IT CERTAINLY HAD A VERBAL PRESENTATION, DID NOT HAVE A PICTURE.
AND I WAS, UH, AT THE TIME I WROTE THAT, MY COMMENTS, I DIDN'T HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THIS EASEMENT WAS.
UH, BUT MY COMMENTS AND, AND, AND PHOTOS STILL, STILL, UH, ARE APPROPRIATE HERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU, WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY DOING IS NOW THIS, UH, UH, TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, YOU'RE GONNA PUT THIS, UH, FACILITY AND BASICALLY THE, THE PRESENTATION TO THE CLAIMS IS ONLY TWO TRUCKS.
YOU ALSO HAVE, DURING THE WINTER, YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, YOU HAVE SALT, SALT MOVEMENT AND YOU, THE SALT SHED.
SO THESE VEHICLES ARE NOW GOING, UH, NET UP THEIR, THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THEM GOING OUT THROUGH OLYMPIC LANE.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE EVEN HAVE AN EASEMENT.
UH, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING, IN MY MIND, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A LIABILITY, THE LIABILITY OF THE TOWN.
YOU'RE COMING OUT ON OLYMPIC LANE, THAT ROAD? YEAH, IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT RADIUSS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT A TRUCK NEEDS A 30 FOOT RADIUS.
HAVE A TRUCK TURNING RADIUS THAT'S A DUMP TRUCK, 30 FOOT TURNING RACES RADIUS.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S SUBSTANDARD FOR WHAT EVEN YOU'RE DOING OUT OF OLYMPIC LANE.
OLYMPIC LANE, BECAUSE THE ROADWAY IS ONLY 30 FOOT WIDE.
SO ALL THE DUMP TRUCKS THAT COME OUT OF THERE AND MAKE A TURN THERE WILL BE TURNING INTO TRAFFIC.
UH, YOU KNOW, BY THE FACT THAT IT'S A 30 FOOT RADIUS AND YOU'VE GOT TRACTOR, TRAILERS NEED 40 FOOT.
SO TRACTOR TRAILER TURNING OUT OF OLYMPIC LANE, UH, WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE, COULD NOT MAKE THE TURN.
UH, THEY HAVE TO BACK UP AND GO UP.
SO NOW THE, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS GETTING THE ADDED LIABILITY OF HAVING ODDS THESE'S TRUCKS GOING THROUGH OLYMPIC LANE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST WAY OUT FOR THEM.
THEY'RE NOT GOING UP THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY.
THAT DRIVEWAY, EXISTING DRIVEWAY SITE DISTANCES ARE THERE, ARE EVEN WORSE THAN OLYMPIC LANE.
IT'S PROBABLY A 20% INCLINE VERTICALLY.
AND WHEN YOU COME OUT, YOU STILL HAVE THAT 30 FOOT RADIUS BUSINESS.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU'RE COMING OFF AN APPROACH TRIP.
WELL, I THINK YOU'RE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE STATE, BUT THE STATE, THE BOTTOM LINE, SOMEONE GETS INTO AN ACCIDENT, UH, THE WAY IT GOES IS ODDSLY SUED, UH,
SO SOMEONE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THOSE TRUCKS COMING FROM THE LEY FACILITY, UH, GETTING
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IN AND OUT OF OLYMPIC LAND.THAT WAS MY MAJOR, UH, UH, COMMENT IN THAT EMAIL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOTTEN IT YET, FRANCIS.
I DID, BUT JUST LIKE WITH THE NICK, JUST LIKE WITH THE PREVIOUS ONE YOU SAVED, THE PHOTOS ARE ATTACHED, BUT THERE ARE NO ATTACHMENTS.
WHAT, WHAT IT BASICALLY IS, IS THE PHOTO, UH, LOOKING ONE PHOTO IS LOOKING, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'D HAVE TO SEND YOU PER, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE YOUR TIME FOR ME TO SEND, SEND, I HAVE ONLY THREE PHOTOS.
IT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAW OUT THERE.
THERE'S A PHOTO COMING OUT OF THE OLYMPIC LANE.
IT'S SHOWING, UH, I'M SITTING IN A CAR COMING OUTTA OLYMPIC LANE TOWARDS DALE.
THAT RAILWAY IS A 30 FOOT WIDE RED, RED.
UH, YOU DON'T NEED A PICTURE TO SHOW YOU THAT.
YOU'RE COMING OUT WITH A TR WITH A TRUCK, A DUMP TRUCK.
THAT TRUCK HAS TO, THAT'S, THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY, IT'S ONLY A 15 FOOT RADIUS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD IS FIF 15 FEET IN EACH DIRECTION.
SO THAT ONE PICTURE SHOWS THAT THE OTHER PICTURE SHOWS, UH, THE STEEP SLOPE GOING INTO THE TWO 20 HEATHERDALE PROPERTY.
YOU STAND, IT'S A PROBABLY IN 50, 60 FEET.
YOU DROP 20 FEET, IT'S A 20% GRADE.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THEM TO USE IT.
I'M, I'M NOT EVEN SURE, JUST VISUALIZE A TRUCK, A A DUMP TRUCK TRYING TO COME OUT OF THERE, OUT OF TWO 20.
THEY'RE COMING UP TO THE TOP OF THE HILL.
THEY CAN'T SEE TO THE LEFT, TO THE RIGHT.
UH, AND TRAFFIC IS COMING OVER FROM, FROM THE STATE BRIDGE SITE DISTANCE IS, ARE HORRIBLE.
UH, AND, AND THEY'RE A LITTLE BETTER THAN OLYMPIC LANE.
BUT THEN THAT, CERTAINLY, YOU'RE NOT COMING OUT WITH A TRA, A TRACTOR TRAILER NEEDS A 40 FOOT RADIUS TO GET OUT.
SO HE'S BACKING UP TO GET OUT SO THAT, THAT DRIVEWAY TWO 20 IS ALMOST USELESS FOR LARGE TRUCKS AND TRACTOR TRAILS.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SENDING ALL THE TRAFFIC INTO OUR OLYMPIC LANE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, DO WE EVEN HAVE THE EASEMENT THROUGH THERE? TAKE THE EASEMENT AWAY AND THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY GOTTA DO THEMSELVES, AND THEY'RE LIABLE FOR IT ALL.
UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EVEN CONSIDERING THIS, THIS, THIS, UH, BASED ON SAFETY AND INSURANCE LIABILITY ISSUES.
UH, MY PHOTOS ONLY SHOW, YOU KNOW, THIS STEEP SLOPE THAT YOU COULD SEE YOURSELF IF YOU WERE OUT IN THE SITE GOING DOWN INTO TWO 20.
UH, YOU PROBABLY SAW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UH, THAT, THAT WAS MY MAIN, MY MAIN CONCERN.
UH, THE OTHER CONCERNS HAVE TO DO, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE, UH, I GUESS, I GUESS THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE VILLAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND THEY'RE BEING ALLOWED BECAUSE I GUESS IT'S VILLAGE PROPERTY.
THAT, THAT'S SOME OTHER ISSUE.
UH, BUT, UH, INITIALLY I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, THAT, UH, VILLAGE TRUMPS ALL, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
MY CONCERN PRIOR TO HEARING THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACES AROUND HERE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GIVE, WE GIVE THIS, UH, VARIANCE, UH, HERE THEN, THEN YOU, YOU GOT A LOT OF OTHER SPACES DOWN ON SEACO ROAD AND THAT, THAT ARE OPEN, THAT ARE NOW UP FOR SALE.
THAT WAS MY SECOND, UH, UH, MY SECOND, MY SECOND, UH, UH, ISSUE.
AND THE THIRD IS I WANT TO SEE A LAYOUT.
AND I SEE, I SEE A LAYOUT HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THESE TRUCKS ARE.
UH, YOU CLAIM YOU ONLY HAVE, IT SEEMS LIKE A HUGE FACILITY.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE ARE THESE TRUCKS BEING STORED? THEY'RE GONNA BE STORED, GONNA BE STORED INSIDE.
BUT DURING THE DAY IN THE WINTERTIME, THE ENGINES ARE RUNNING, THEY'RE OUTSIDE, I ASSUME, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY.
WE ARE PLANNING ON STORING ALL OF OUR TRUCKS THAT WE CAN IN THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT.
UM, I'M GONNA ASK OUR, UH, CONSULTANTS TO ADDRESS THE, UH, TURNING RADIUS QUESTION THAT YOU HAD.
BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, WE AT THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY DO NOT PLAN ON HAVING OUR TRUCKS OR, OR VEHICLES USE OLYMPIC LANE AT ALL.
WE ARE PLANNING ON ONLY GOING IN AND OUT OF OUR OWN PROPERTY.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA ADD ANY TRAFFIC TO OLYMPIC LANE.
THE ROADWAY THAT WE ARE PLANNING IS TO HELP PROVIDE, UM, A SECONDARY AND BETTER ACCESS FOR THE TOWN'S VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TURNING RADIUSES.
WELL, THE TURNING RADIUS THERE IS, UNLESS THEY REALLY FLATTEN UP THAT SLOPE AND TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT WAY BACK INTO YOUR PROPERTY, UH, I'M GONNA ASK THEM TO GIVE, TO EXPLAIN, TO EXPLAIN THAT TO US.
BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I, I, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE SECOND POINT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING.
THE, THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY, SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNINCORPORATED AREA ZONING CODE.
AND THERE IS NO VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED FROM THE TOWN THAT THERE'S NO WAIVER BEING ADDRESSED FOR THE TOWN AS THE MAYOR STARTED OFF, IS, THIS IS BASICALLY A DISCUSSION ABOUT
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THE, AN EASEMENT AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE EASEMENT.BUT AS FAR AS, YEAH, IT'S GONNA AFFECT SEACOR ROAD OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAS THIS, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S IN A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UH, MUNICIPALITY.
FORGET THAT CONCERN, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT PRIOR IT WAS ME.
I STILL THINK IT'S A SAFETY, UH, A VERY, UH, SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE THAT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA RESOLVE THAT.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE, WE SHOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, ASK, UM, SERGEANT REON AND THE GREENBERG POLICE CHIEF TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONCERNS.
AND OBVIOUSLY, WELL, THIS IS A DESIGN ISSUE.
IF A TRACTOR TRAIL COULD COME IN AND OUTTA THAT WITHOUT GOING ON, ON ONGOING TRAFFIC, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOUR DESIGN PEOPLE COULD TELL YOU THAT AT TRACTOR WILL HAVE TO GO.
I THINK, I THINK BEFORE WE CONTINUE SPECULATING ON THIS, WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTANTS WHO HAVE LOOKED AT THIS IN DETAIL, UM, AS PART OF THE PLANNING FOR SPECULATING SHOULD ASK THE CHIEF, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS A DESIGN QUESTION, SO TO, UM, TO JUST COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF YOUR CONCERNS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE DO REALIZE THAT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY OFF OF HEATHERDALE, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT STEEP.
UM, IT'S WHAT IS BEING USED TODAY IN, IN MANY RESPECTS FOR ACCESS, UH, THROUGH THIS SITE FROM THE NORTH.
UM, THE INCLINE UP TO HEATHERDALE ROAD IS ABOUT 8%, EIGHT TO 10%, UM, GRADE.
UM, YES, THE TURNING RADIUSES ARE, UM, ARE NOT, UH, DESIGNED FOR LARGE VEHICLES TO TURN UP TOWARDS THE BRIDGE, BUT IT'S MORE GENEROUS, UM, HEADING IN A, UH, WESTERLY, UH, DIRECTION.
UM, AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WE REFINE OUR DESIGN AND, AND GO FORWARD WITH, UM, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, UH, TO SEE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT DO COME UP.
UM, AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE D P W FACILITY.
SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ACCESS THROUGH THERE.
UM, AND SAFETY IS, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON USING OLYMPIC LANE.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT WE'RE BRINGING THE, THE NEW DRIVE OUT TO OLYMPIC LANE BECAUSE THE, UH, THE SIGHT LINES, THE GRADES AND THE TURNING RADIUSES AT HEATHER DELL ROAD FROM OLYMPIC LAND ARE, UM, ARE MUCH BETTER.
AND, UM, THEY CURRENTLY RECEIVE SHIPMENTS I UNDERSTAND, UM, WITH TRACTOR TRAILERS AND THERE'S BUS TRAFFIC THAT USE OLYMPIC LANE TODAY.
UM, AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM.
UM, SO, UM, OUR, OUR LOOK AT IT SHOWS THAT, UH, USING TURNING TEMPLATES AND AUTOCAD, THAT LARGE VEHICLES CAN MANEUVER THROUGH THAT IN A SAFE MANNER.
COULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UH, SHARE YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE SAFETY CONCLUSIONS YOU HAVE WITH BOTH THE GREENBERG POLICE AND THE, YOU KNOW, ARE, IT'S A, UM, POLICE JUST CAME UP AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE, I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY BROUGHT THIS UP AND, YOU KNOW, THE GREENBERG AND LEY POLICE DEPARTMENTS FEEL THAT THIS IS SAFE.
UM, A A ABSOLUTELY, PAUL, AS, AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, I REALLY HOPE TO THE VILLAGE AND THE TOWN COULD WORK VERY COOPERATIVELY AND CERTAINLY ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT, UH, RESIDENTS HAVE.
WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SAFE, UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO ABSOLUTELY, AS AS WE GO FORWARD, WE WILL, UM, COLLABORATE, UM, THIS QUESTION WITH OUR POLICE AND YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND OUR ENGINEERS.
SO IS THE CONCERN, I, I THINK I'M, I THINK I'M SEEING WHAT NICK IS, IS THINKS THINGSS MAY HAPPEN, IS, UH, EVEN WHEN THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT GOING OUT TO OLYMPIC LANE AS OUR SECOND EGRESS SAYING THAT IT'S, IT'S A BETTER, IT'S A BETTER EGRESS, IT'S A SAFER EGRESS, IT'S MORE LEVEL IT, WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE AND GOING OUT TO HEATHERDALE DOESN'T HAVE AS GOOD A SIGHT DISTANCE AND IT IS STEEP.
WOULDN'T THERE BE AN INCLINATION THEN TO, PARDON PUN,
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WOULDN'T THERE BE AN IN INCLINATION TO HAVE YOUR VEHICLES COME OUT AND USE THAT SAME EGRESS THAT WE WOULD BE USING TO COME ONTO A LIMBIC LANE WITH THE BETTER SIGHT DISTANCES, NOT HAVING THE STEEP SLOPE AND THEN COME OUT AND THERE, BUT IN DOING SO, WE WOULD THEN HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC, UM, WHILE THE PEOPLE COMING TO THE POOL AND GOING TO THE POOL AND TO THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, UM, THEY WOULD NOW BE IN A QUEUE WITH THE D P W, UH, VEHICLES AS WELL AS ANY, ANY THAT MAY BE COMING THROUGH OUR SECOND EXIT.BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT, THAT IS NOT, NOT THE INTENTION, UM, TO HAVE ANY OF OUR TRUCKS, UH, USE THE SECONDARY ROAD OR OLYMPIC, UH, LANE.
AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UM, UM, PUT THAT IN, YOU KNOW, THE AGREEMENT, UH, FOR MOVING THE EASEMENT THAT OUR TRUCKS WILL NOT USE OLYMPIC LANE AT ALL UNLESS THERE IS A DIRE EMERGENCY ON HEATHERDALE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET OUT, UM, OF THE WAY, BUT NOT ON ANY KIND OF CONSISTENT OR DAILY BASIS.
UH, COULD I INTERJECT SOMETHING HERE? BECAUSE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, UH, THEN YOU, YOU, YOU WOULD, YOU, YOU, YOUR CONSULTANT JUST SAID YOU'VE GOT IT TURNING RIGHT, COMING OUT OF TWO 20, YOU'VE GOT THE TURNING RIGHT, IT'S RIGHT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE IT GOING LEFT.
UH, IS THAT, UH, YOU'RE GONNA, IS THAT YOU'RE IMPLYING BY THAT, THAT YOU'RE GONNA, UH, MAKE THAT RADIUS GOING OUT, UH, FROM TWO 20 BE, UH, CONSISTENT, UH, WITH, UH, WITH YOUR GOING OUT THE OTHER, YOU'LL NOTICE HOW, UH, YOU'RE ABLE TO GET OUT WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE OTHER LANE ON COMING, UH, COMING OUT OF TWO 20 GOING, UH, WHAT WOULD BE, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE SOUTH OR, OR GOING LEFT, THAT'S THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE A, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA ADDRESS THAT RADIUS THERE.
THAT RADIUS, THE WAY IT SHOWS RIGHT NOW IS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO SEE THAT TRACK.
THOSE TRACTOR TRAILERS ARE GOING INTO THE OTHER LANE.
UH, AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT ALSO HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TRACTOR TRAILERS WE HAVE GOING IN AND OUT OF OUR
UM, UH, BUT UM, CERTAINLY AGAIN, WE WILL TAKE A, A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THIS.
ANYTHING THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE D P W SITE WOULD PROBABLY BE TURNING RIGHT, GOING TOWARDS THE VILLAGE, BECAUSE THIS IS AT THE VERY SORT OF EDGE OF THE VILLAGE.
UM, AND IT WILL BE SERVICING GOING RIGHT.
BUT, UH, WE AGAIN WILL TAKE A, A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THAT.
ONCE AGAIN, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UH, NO, JUST THE, THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT, UM, A VEHICLE EXITING THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAS GONNA TURN TO GO UP TOWARDS THE BRIDGE IS NOT ACTUALLY GONNA BE USING THE RADIUS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE AT THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE SWINGING, THEY'RE GONNA BE STAYING TO THE RIGHT AND THEY'RE GONNA BE SWINGING A LITTLE WIDE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE USE, UH, TURNING TEMPLATES AND WE USE, UM, A PROGRAM IN AUTOCAD TO SIMULATE MOVEMENT OF LARGE VEHICLES TO SEE HOW THEY TRACK AND SEE HOW MUCH, UH, WHERE THE OVERHANG OF THE TRAILER AND STUFF WOULD, WOULD TRACK SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, UM, SAFE FOR EVERYONE USING THE ROAD.
SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT.
YOU ALSO LOOKED, YOU ALSO LOOKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE 8% SLOPE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT TRACTOR TRAILER COMES UP TO THE TOP OF THE HILL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GONNA BE SEEING AT, AT THE ANGLE HE'S AT.
UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S POINTING UP, HE'S NOT, IT'S NOT FLAT FOR SURE.
UH, I, I THINK WITH, WITH, UH, WHAT FRANCIS IS SAYING TO ME, IF I'M THE TRUCK DRIVER, I, IT'S A LOT SAFER FOR ME TO GO OUT.
MY, MY TENDENCY WOULD GO OUT THE OLYMPIC LANE, BUT OKAY, YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT TO ME IT'S A SAFER LEFT TURN, UH, MOVING TO COME OUT, UH, A FLAT SLOPE.
AND, UH, I'M SURE THERE'S NO, NOBODY'S GONNA BE LIMITING, UH, THE ODDS OF THE YEAR FROM COMING OUT OLYMPIC LANES.
SO THE TOWN SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
SO I THINK WE'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS.
I THINK THERE WAS ONE OTHER PERSON WHO WANTED TO SPEAK.
WAS IT YOU, PAT? THAT WAS PAT.
AND I THOUGHT YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION AND THAT TURNED OFF MY MIC, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT AGAIN.
YOU ASKED, UM, MAYOR KABUL A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, ACCESS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO GO THROUGH THE ENTRANCES ON SOME OF THE SIDE STREETS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN.
AND YOU SAID, AND SHE ANSWERED, I THINK THAT NO, THAT WITH SECURITY AND PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TRAVEL THROUGH THAT AREA, IS THAT WHAT SHE SAID? RESIDENTS DON'T TRAVEL THROUGH THE
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PROPERTY NOW.UM, WHAT TRAVELS THROUGH THE PROPERTY NOW ON THE GREENBERG EASEMENT IS, UH, GREENBERG'S TRUCKS, UM, AND, AND SOME OF THEIR D PW.
SO THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
I JUST THOUGHT THERE WAS GONNA BE A PRIVATE ROAD THAT NOBODY, NO ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA COULD USE.
UM, MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS JEFF BUDROW FROM WESTERN AND SAMSON, IF I MIGHT JUST AMPLIFY A COUPLE OF ITEMS, ITEMS, UM, ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, WE'RE NOT AWARE THAT THE VILLAGE OF LEY OWNS ANY TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT ARE GONNA BE USING THAT.
AND NUMBER TWO, WE'RE AT A VERY PRELIMINARY STAGE.
NECK, NECK, NECK, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
YOU'LL LET HAVE TO LET PEOPLE SPEAK AND THEN IF THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SPEAK.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S AN OCCASIONAL TRACTOR TRAILER, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE AN EVERYDAY, UH, AN EVERYDAY EVENT.
THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO AND FROM THIS BUILDING IS ALSO NOT AN AWFUL LOT.
THESE TRUCKS DON'T RUN BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH ALL DAY LONG.
THEY TEND TO GO OUT EARLY IN THE MORNING TO DO SOME WORK, AND THEY TEND TO COME BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON AT THE END OF THE DAY.
THE LAST THING THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS WE'RE VERY PRELIMINARY.
PRELIMINARY AND OUR POSITIONING RIGHT NOW WITH THE SITE DESIGN, AND WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING A LOT OF EARTH ON THIS SITE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE REGRADING THE SITE AND THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DESIGN EFFORT, IF THERE ARE, ARE ISSUES WITH THE SLOPE OF THAT EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT WE FEEL ARE EITHER UNSAFE OR CAN BE IMPROVED, THEY'RE GONNA BE REFLECTED IN THE FINAL DESIGN.
SO I THINK WE'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE, UH, ADEQUATELY RESPONDED TO THEM, AND WE'VE STILL GOT QUITE A WAYS TO GO IN THE DESIGN PROCESS TO WORK OUT ANY AND ALL THE BUGS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST.
HOW, HOW LONG, UM, WILL THE CONSTRUCTION TAKE AND, UM, ALSO, UM, UH, WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE ACTUALLY STARTING? UH, THE WORK CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT 15 TO 16 MONTHS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE START OF THE WORK, IT, UH, ALL DEPENDS WHETHER WE DO IT ALL IN ONE PHASE OR IF WE START SOME OF THE EARLIER WORK, LET'S SAY THE HOUSE DEMOLITION, UH, AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
BUT OVERALL, THE TOTAL PROJECT SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 15 TO 16 MONTHS.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE PROJECT GOING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN HAVE THESE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS TO FINALIZE THE DECISION MAKING ON THE EASEMENT, UM, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT.
I'D LOVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE TOWN AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE ARE AESTHETIC CONSIDERATIONS HERE AND, UM, WE WILL TRY AND WORK WITH THE TOWN AND WORK WITH EVERYONE TO PROVIDE FOR A BUILDING THAT FITS APPROPRIATELY WITHIN THE LOCATION.
UM, FOR EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT HIGHWAY OPERATIONS.
WE PLAN ON KEEPING MUCH OF THE VEGETATION CLOSE TO OLYMPIC LANE, UM, TO KEEP A GOOD BUFFER THERE AND TO ADD TO THE VEGETATION, UM, IF NECESSARY GOING FORWARD.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THE TOWN AND, AND, UH, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND PRESENT THIS.
UH, WE HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UM, UM, AND WE WILL CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AND I HOPE THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS.
ALSO, COULD YOU MAYBE JUST, UM, MENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE PROBABLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, PROCESS AND THE IMPACT ON SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN TERMS OF THE TRUCKS AND VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES COMING AND GOING.
UM, WE WILL TRY TO, AS THE PROCESS GOES FORWARD, TRY TO NOTIFY AND KEEP ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, UM, INFORMED AS TO THE, THE PROGRESS AND WHAT IS GOING ON, AND TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I, I JUST, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE, WE REALLY PLAN ON BUILDING OUR D P W UH, FACILITY HERE.
WE REALLY WISH THAT RICK THOMPSON, OUR FORMER D P W FOREMAN WAS HERE TO SEE IT.
UM, I KNOW HE IS ANXIOUS TO COME BACK TO SEE IT COMPLETED, BUT, UH, I, I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD THIS IN A MOST EXPEDITIOUS WAY.
UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
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THANK YOU EVERYONE.AND NOW WE HAVE, UH, A THIRD, UH, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION FROM, UM, SUSTAINABLE, UH, YOU KNOW, WESTCHESTER.
GOOD, GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, MY NAME IS CARMEN SANTOS AND I'M HERE TO, UH, PRESENT ON THE WESTCHESTER POWER PROGRAM.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN NOW.
UM, SO FOR EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, WESTCHESTER POWER IS OUR COUNTY COMMUNITY N R T PROGRAM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2016.
UM, WE BASICALLY WORK WITH MUNICIPALITIES TO AGGREGATE RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES TO BUY CLEAN ELECTRICITY AT COMPETITIVE RATES.
UM, AND IN DOING SO, WE HAVE A POSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
UH, WE BASICALLY, UH, ARE ABLE TO ACCESS AFFORDABLE, CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY, WHICH HELPS US MITIGATE CARBON DIOXIDE AND ADDRESS THE BIG CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US, WHICH INCLUDE CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND THIS HELPS US SECURE A BETTER FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN.
IT HELPS US IMPROVE AIR QUALITY, AND IT BOOSTS THE GREEN ECONOMY GENERATING MORE GREEN JOBS.
SO, 27 MUNICIPALITIES PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
24 OF THEM CURRENTLY HAVE GREEN SUPPLY AS THEIR DEFAULT SUPPLY FOR RESIDENTS.
AND GREEN SUPPLY IS 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY, AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE ARE SOON GOING TO HAVE 25 MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF GREENBURG NOW, UM, AS, UH, AS SO THAT THEY HAVE CHOSEN GREEN SUPPLY AS THEIR DEFAULT RENEWABLE ENERGY OR DEFAULT SUPPLY, I'M SORRY, FOR THEIR RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO HOW DOES THE PROGRAM WORK? BASICALLY, WESTCHESTER POWER BUYS ELECTRICITY ON YOUR BEHALF.
CONED CONTINUES TO DELIVER THE ELECTRICITY.
THEY MAINTAIN THE LINES AND BUILD THE CUSTOMERS.
AND YOU AS A CUSTOMER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
YOU JUST END UP HAVING MORE ENERGY CHOICE.
AND THROUGH YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM, YOU SUPPORT CLEAN ENERGY.
SO, UH, RECENTLY WE HAD AN, AN AUCTION FOR THE 2021 CONTRACT.
WE HAD FOUR SUPPLIERS COMPETE TO, UM, SUPPLIERS ENERGY, AND, UH, ONE OF THE BEST OFFERS WE GOT FOR AN 18 MONTH PERIOD WAS FROM CONSTELLATION.
AND SO WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THEM.
SO NOW, UM, STARTING JANUARY 1ST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RATE OF 7.40 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR FOR RESIDENTIAL GREEN SUPPLY CUSTOMERS.
AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A 7.10 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR FOR COMMERCIAL GREEN SUPPLY CUSTOMERS.
AND, UM, NOTE THAT BOTH OF THESE VALUES ARE LOWER THAN OUR CURRENT GREEN SUPPLY, WHICH IS 7.96 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR.
SO THIS WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL BID, AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN THESE RATES.
SO, THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR, UH, YOU'LL BE RECEIVING A LETTER AT HOME, UM, AND IN IT YOU WILL SEE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SUPPLY RATES AS WELL AS THE PROGRAM.
AND IT'LL ALSO NOTIFY YOU THAT THERE IS A 30 DAY OPT OUT PERIOD FROM NOVEMBER 15TH TO DECEMBER 15TH.
AND, UM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO STAY IN THE PROGRAM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
YOU WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM STARTING JANUARY 1ST, UM, ON YOUR FIRST METER READ DATE.
SO YOU CAN OPT OUT ANY TIME, RIGHT? YES.
SO, UM, JUST ONE THING WE WANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE MUNICIPALITY, UH, I'M SORRY THAT THE COMMUNICATION WILL HAVE THE MUNICIPALITY SEAL ON IT, IT WILL HAVE IT ON THE ENVELOPE AS WELL AS THE LETTER.
UM, SO WE ARE DOING THIS TO DIFFERENTIATE OURSELVES FROM OTHER ENERGY SUPPLY COMPANIES THAT MAY BE OFFERING YOU, UM, ENERGY SOURCES.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR THE MUNICIPALITY SEAL ON THE LETTER.
AND ALSO, UM, IF YOU'RE EVER CONFUSED, PLEASE CALL US.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO CLEAR UP WHETHER, UH, A COMMUNICATION YOU'VE RECEIVED HAS BEEN FROM US.
AND, UM, YOU CAN OPT OUT AT ANY POINT, UH, AND YOU, THERE WILL BE NO PENALTIES FOR OPTING OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
SO ON THE 30 DAY PERIOD, YOU CAN SIGN AND SET BACK THE PREPAID POSTCARD THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE ENVELOPE, OR YOU CAN ALSO CALL US.
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YOU COULD ALSO GO ONLINE AND DO THIS ON YOUR OWN BY VISITING WW DOT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER.ORG/WP AND CLICKING, UM, A BUTTON THAT SAYS OPT OUT OF THE PROGRAM.IF, UM, YOU DECIDE TO OPT OUT OF THE PROGRAM, OR IF YOU HAVE OPTED OUT OF PROGRAM, UH, BEFORE, UH, YOU WILL NOT BE RECEIVING THIS LETTER TO BE ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM AGAIN.
SO IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AND YOU WANNA COME BACK TO THE PROGRAM, YOU FEEL THAT YOU, UH, WANNA SUPPORT THE COST OF TRANSITIONING TO CLEAN ENERGY, OR, UM, YOU JUST FEEL THAT, UH, YOU WANNA BE WITHIN, UM, A MODEL THAT IS VETTED BY YOUR MUNICIPALITY AND ALSO A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, UM, THEN PLEASE CALL US BECAUSE WE CAN OPT YOU BACK INTO THE PROGRAM.
OKAY? SO WE WANNA CONTINUE TO DO OUTREACH EVERYWHERE.
UM, WE WANNA GET OUT, AND YOU SHOULD ALSO EMPHASIZE IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY IN AN ESCO THAT YOU WILL NOT BE.
SO THEY, THEY, THEY WILL NOT GET THIS LETTER IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN AN ESCO, A DIFFERENT ESCO.
UM, SO IF YOU ARE ALREADY WITH AN ESCO, YOU WILL, UM, HAVE TO EITHER EXIT, UM, YOUR CONTRACT TO JOIN US.
UM, YOU WILL NOT BE RECEIVING THE LETTER.
AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A FEW, UM, PEOPLE THAT I'VE SPOKE WITH WHO ARE VERY PRO, UM, UH, I GUESS HELPING CLIMATE CHA, UH, HELPING US MITIGATE CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND THEY'VE ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR ESCO, UH, RATES THAT ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN OURS SEXUALLY.
AND SO THEY'RE FIGURING OUT WAYS IN WHICH TO GET OUT OF THOSE CONTRACTS AND JOIN US.
SO IF YOU ARE WITH AN ESCO ALREADY AND YOU WANNA JOIN OUR PROGRAM, UM, PLEASE FIGURE OUT WHEN YOU CAN EXIT YOUR, UH, YOUR CONTRACT AND THEN CALL US.
AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, OPT YOU INTO OUR PROGRAM.
SO WE WANNA CONTINUE TO DO OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, UH, WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY OF, UH, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND EVERYWHERE, REALLY WHERE WE ARE OPERATING AND BEYOND, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WHAT IS THIS PROGRAM AND HOW IT HELPS OUR FUTURE.
AND, UM, WE ALSO WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, FOR LISTENING TO THIS PRESENTATION, FOR CONSIDERING, UH, TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM OR, OR FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM ALREADY.
BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS HELPING US TRANSITION TOWARDS A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.
AND I WANNA, UH, TURN TO THE BOARD AND SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, YOU MADE A BIG IMPACT, UH, BY CHOOSING TO GO FOR GREEN SUPPLY, UM, DEFAULT SUPPLY FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AND, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND, UH, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, I DEF I WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
'CAUSE YOU'RE GIVING US ALMOST, I GUESS, A FIGHTING CHANCE AND, UH, FUTURE, UH, THAT COULD BE MORE SUSTAINABLE.
AND YOU'LL SEND US A COPY OF THESE SLIDES? YES, I CAN SEND YOU A COPY OF THE SLIDES.
AND DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, NO, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR, UH, JOINING US AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A SUCCESSFUL, UM, UNIT PROGRAM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, EVERYONE.
AND I SHOULD MENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UM, NINA ORVILLE, UH, WHO'S BEEN VERY INVOLVED AND, UH, SHE'S WORKING REALLY HARD AND TRYING TO GIVE, UM, NINA GREENBERG, UM, UH, RESIDENT THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, SOME BENEFITS, UM, THAT COULD SAVE, UH, RESIDENTS, SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME MONEY.
IN FACT, I FORWARDED ONE OF THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT SHE GAVE US, I THINK EARLIER TODAY.
AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO SIGN UP AS AN AN ANCHOR SUBSCRIBER TO COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, COMING ONLINE, UH, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
SO IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MONEY FOR THE TOWN AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO THOUSAND DOLLARS SAVINGS OR SOMETHING.
AND IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT CLEAN ENERGY, SO I HOPE YOU CONSIDER IT RIGHT.
AND WE WOULD, UH, IS THERE LIKE A DEADLINE AS TO WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION? BECAUSE RELEASING MY BUDGET FRIDAY, AND THEN THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, I WAS FIGURING MAYBE SOMETIME IN MID-NOVEMBER, NINA COULD, UH, SPEAK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I SHE WOULD BE AVAILABLE NEXT MONTH TO SPEAK WITH YOU, AND
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I'M DEFINITELY GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH HER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SCHEDULE A MEETING.AND SHE, UH, KNOW, I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SHE'S REALLY THINKING OF GREENBERG.
AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM IS NOT ONLY ARE WE GIVING A BENEFIT TO, UH, UH, RESIDENTS, BUT, UH, YOUR ORGANIZATION SUSTAINABLE.
WESTCHESTER IS DEFINITELY, YOU'RE TRYING HARD TO HELP THE TOWN IN OTHER WAYS BECOME MORE SUSTAINABLE AND A GREENER COMMUNITY.
[ BOARDS & COMMISSIONS The Town Board accepts with regret the resignation of Commissioner of Public Works, Victor Carosi, effective end of business November 13, 2020 Appointment of Cindy Collins to the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board, for a term to expire December 31, 2021]
NEXT, UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT, UH, WE ACCEPT WITH REGRET THE RESIGNATION OF THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, VICTOR RO EFFECTIVE, UH, ON NOVEMBER 13TH, UH, 2000 AND, UM, YOU KNOW, 20 WE WISH, UH, VICTOR, UH, GOOD LUCK AND HAPPINESS IN HIS, UM, UH, NEW JOB.HE'S GONNA BE MOVING TO FLORIDA.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE DID A LOT OF REAL POSITIVE THINGS FOR THE TOWN, I SHOULD MENTION.
YOU KNOW, HE, UH, USED TECHNOLOGY TO THE TOWN'S ADVANTAGE.
UM, WE HAVE THE AUTOMATIC, UH, UH, IT'S CALLED, UH, YOU KNOW, WATER BACK HAND THAT PICKS UP, UM, YOU KNOW, GARBAGE AND, UM, UH, CO MINGLES USING ONE PERSON INSTEAD OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THREE.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE A LOT IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE'VE, UM, WE'RE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY MAJOR, UM, UM, INITIATIVE TO CONNECT THE BROOK, UM, UM, PUMP STATION WITH, UH, THE NORWOOD, UH, WHICH WILL GIVE US, YOU KNOW, BACKUP, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT ONE OF THE STATIONS DOESN'T WORK.
UH, THE WATER TANKS HAVE BEEN, UM, HAVE BEEN PAINTED.
UM, MANY OF THE ROAD, THE ROAD CONDITIONS IN GREENBURG ARE MUCH BETTER THAN MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE HAVE A, AN ANNUAL ROAD REPAVING, UM, INITIATIVE.
UM, WE GET VIRTUALLY, UM, NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT, UM, UH, VERY FEW COMPLAINTS ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SEEM TO LOVE THEIR, UH, SANITATION, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S, UH, I PARTIALLY DUE TO, UH, HIS, UH, HIS LEADERSHIP.
SO WE WILL DEFINITELY MISS HIM AND WISH HIM GOOD LUCK.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION SECOND.
PAUL, I, PAUL, I HAVE A TRIBUTE THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO READ TO VICTOR ON, WAIT, WAIT, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
HE IS ABOUT TO, HE IS ABOUT TO COME INTO THE MEETING.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HE WASN'T THERE.
UH, JUST GIVE HIM A MOMENT TO CONNECT.
DON'T BELIEVE A WORD YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR.
OH, ON BEHALF OF MY DEPARTMENT AND OTHER TOWN DEPARTMENT HEADS, I JUST WANT TO FORMALLY THANK PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSIONER VICTOR OSI FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE TOWN, AND WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK.
12 YEARS AGO, WHEN FORMER PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSIONER REGULA ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT FROM THE TOWN, MANY OF US HAD A SINKING FEELING THAT THINGS WOULD NEVER BE THE SAME.
REGULA WAS A STALWART WITH A LONG HISTORY AND AN ACUTE UNDERSTANDING OF THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE TOWN WHO WOULD NOT BE EASILY REPLACED.
NEVERTHELESS, VICTOR HAS PROVEN TO BE EQUALLY FORMIDABLE.
FEW PEOPLE TRULY UNDERSTAND THE MULTITUDE OF ANALYTICAL AND INTERPERSONAL SKILLS NECESSARY TO OVERSEE THE TOWN'S HIGHWAY SANITATION AND EQUIPMENT REPAIR BUREAUS, IN ADDITION TO THE TOWN'S WATER, SEWER, AND ENGINEERING APARTMENTS.
ALTHOUGH VICTOR INHERITED A STAFF THAT WAS NOT OF YOUR OWN CHOOSING, HE QUICKLY LEARNED EMPLOYEES NAMES ADAPTED TO THE MANY PERSONALITIES, AND IN SHORT ORDER, STAFF MEMBERS RECOGNIZED HIS UNIQUE SKILLS AND BEGAN TO FOLLOW HIS LEADERSHIP AND DIRECTION.
VICTOR OVERSAW FINAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE TOWN'S $19 MILLION LIBRARY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, A FEDERAL
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LITIGATION INVOLVING THE BROOK PUMP STATION, THE CREATION OF A SECONDARY WATER SOURCE, THE SEARCH FOR A NEW COURTHOUSE AND POLICE STATION, AND PARTICIPATED IN NUMEROUS ARBITRATIONS AND MEDIATIONS TO HELP RESOLVE CONFLICTS AND DISPUTES.I WAS MOST IMPRESSED WITH THE RESPECT THAT VICTOR EXHIBITED TO ALL RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE AGREED WITH THEM OR NOT.
HE ALSO DARED TO SPEAK HIS MIND WHEN HE DEEMED APPROPRIATE.
SADLY, NOT EVERYONE APPRECIATED VICTOR'S TALENTS, AND IN THE END, I SENSED HIS FRUSTRATION WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
I OFTEN WONDERED IF THOSE INDIVIDUALS REALIZED THAT THEY WERE HASTENING HIS DEPARTURE FROM THE TOWN.
IN ANY EVENT, THE TOWN IS A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF VICTOR'S SERVICE AS COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, HE'S BEEN A GREAT ROLE MODEL AND TAUGHT US ALL A LOT.
I KNOW THAT HE WILL FLOURISH IN A NEW ENVIRONMENT WITH DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
WISHING YOU THE BEST, TIM LEWIS COUNT ATTORNEY.
I, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WORDS, BUT MOST WANNA SAY, I SAY TREMENDOUSLY APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS.
AND YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A, IT'S A, A DIFFICULT DECISION ON MY SIDE TO RETIRE, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU, THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF.
IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL, UH, CAREER WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UH, AND I'M, I'M PRIVILEGED TO HAVE MET EVERYBODY AND BEEN ABLE TO, UH, DO THE SERVICES WE'VE DONE TO THE TOWN.
UM, I, I, I, IT'S, I, I JUST AM SPEECHLESS.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY AND WONDERFUL TIME, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, SINCE YOU'RE GONNA BE, UH, TAKING A JOB IN FLORIDA, THAT IF I, I GO TO FLORIDA IN THE WINTER AND THE SNOWS, I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, UH, GETTING STUCK IN THE SNOW, RIGHT?
WELL, AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M CHOOSING TO RETIRE, UH, FROM, FROM THE TOWN AND FROM THE STATE, AND, UH, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
BUT IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL RUN.
I'VE SAID IT'S, I'VE BEEN A, A 30 YEAR CAREER IN PUBLIC WORKS, UH, IN, IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES, AND IT'S BEEN AN ABSOLUTE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, GREAT TIME WITH LEARNING, GROWING, UM, ESTABLISHED ROOTS HERE.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WONDERFUL AND, UM, SO HAVE, THE TOWN OF GREENBERG HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC PLACE.
THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT IT'S PROVIDED, THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE ORGANIZATION, IT'S JUST BEEN, IT'S BEEN GREAT.
AND, UM, I'M, I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY, UH, I'VE BEEN THE COMMISSIONER AND TO WORK WITH YOU AND EVERY OTHER, ALL THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UM, AND, UH, IT, IT'S, UH, IT WAS A DIFFICULT DECISION TO RETIRE, BUT, UH, AT THE TIME, IT'S THE RIGHT THING FOR MY FAMILY.
AND, UH, UH, I'M PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
UH, APPOINTMENT OF, UM, CINDY COLLINS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM, UH, TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.
AND CINDY IS REALLY AN EXCEPTIONAL, UM, ADDITION.
UH, SHE ALSO HAS EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THE PEACE CORPS, UH, A PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEER, AND JUST VERY, VERY TALENTED, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO REALLY BENEFIT TREMENDOUSLY FROM HER SERVICE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE HER, UM, UH, HER APPOINTMENT.
I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT SAY SHE'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.
AND SHE'S HERE AND SHE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY PATIENT, AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MOVED THIS UP, BUT, UH, CINDY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? SURE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.
UM, YEAH, I, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING ON THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE.
I'M EXCITED BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A GREENBERG SEEMS VERY ACTIVE IN ALL THE THINGS.
I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN SO FAR, AND I, I CAN'T WAIT TO SERVE.
CONSIDER YOURSELF, CONSIDER YOURSELF SENTENCED.
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AND I WISH I COULD MEET EVERYONE IN PERSON.
I, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE, BUT ONE DAY,
THERE'S, THERE'S A DECISION, BUT WE LEAVE THAT TO LATER.
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NEXT.UH, THIS IS A CONTINUING THE HEARING THAT WE HAD, UH, RELATING TO THE MENDING OF CHAPTER FOUR 60 OF THE TOWN CODE RELATING TO VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC, UH, A NEW SUBSECTION AUTHORIZING THE FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES OPERATED BY PERSONS WHILE ENGAGED IN, UH, UNLAWFUL, UH, SPEED CONTESTS OR, UH, RACES.
AND, UM, TIM, UH, YOU MADE SOME, UH, CHANGES IN THAT.
YOU HAD MENTIONED, PAUL, THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE PENALTY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TOO HARSH, SO WE AMELIORATED THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, TO MAKE THE PENALTY FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE PENALTY, UH, FOR THE SECOND OFFENSE, UM, I THINK THE, THE ULTIMATE PENALTY COULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 5,000, BUT THE FIRST OFFENSE WOULD BE MAXIMUM OF, UH, A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND AGAIN, ARE YOU MOVING, ARE YOU MOVING TO OPEN THE MEETING, PAUL? YES.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A LOCAL LAW THAT ADDRESSES, UH, DRAG RACING, UM, DRAG RACING, UM, CURRENTLY COULD LEAD TO A SUMMONS, UM, OR AN ARREST, UM, AND THE IMPOUNDMENT OF YOUR VEHICLE.
UM, BUT CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FORFEIT THAT VEHICLE.
SO WHAT THIS LOCAL LAW ESSENTIALLY DOES, AND, UH, THE CITY OF YONKERS AND THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS HAVE DONE IT AS WELL, IS IT AUTHORIZED THE TOWN TO FORFEIT YOUR VEHICLE, OR AT LEAST, UH, BRING AN ACTION TO FORFEIT YOUR VE VEHICLE UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AFTER YOU'RE GIVEN THE SUMMONS OR ARRESTED FOR DRAG RACING? WELL, THERE'RE ACTUALLY, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO LOCAL LAWS, RIGHT? ONE IS RELATED TO SPEEDING, AND ANOTHER ONE IS RELATED TO THE FORFEITURE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH BOTH OF THOSE AT THE, AT THIS POINT, IS IT OPEN NOW? YES.
UM, PRODUCER WES, UM, I WAS AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHERE THEY BROUGHT THIS UP AND WE ARE DISCUSSING JUVENILE PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE DRAG RACING.
UM, THEY'RE 16, 17, AND 18 YEAR OLDERS.
AND I THINK THAT I HAVE A LOT OF TOLERANCE FOR THE YOUTH BECAUSE I WAS ONE AND I DID NOT MAKE PERFECT DECISIONS.
I WAS BLESSED THAT I WAS NEVER IN ACCIDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND I LEARNED AS I WENT, WHAT WAS DANGEROUS AND WHAT WAS NOT VERY GOOD TO DO.
AND I WANT THAT SAME TYPE OF TOLERANCE GIVEN TO THE YOUTH TODAY.
WE HAVE A NO TOLERANCE FOR CHILDREN THAT WE, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE NOW, INSTEAD OF, UH, FORFEIT OF CARS, MAKE THEM WORK SOMEPLACE AND HAVE TO TAKE, UM, THE, UH, COURSE FOR DRIVING AND, AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE INSTEAD OF PUNITIVE.
NOW, ONCE THEY REACH 20 AND 21, THEN I'M SAYING THEY'RE STILL YOUNG.
I'M 29, SO I, I KNOW WHAT YOUNG IS AND I DON'T WANNA SEE THEIR CAR'S FORFEITURE.
AND I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE FOR GROUPS OF PEOPLE.
A LOT OF THE CHILDREN THAT, NOT ALL OF 'EM, BUT I'M THINKING OF MINORITY CHILDREN, THEY DON'T OWN THEIR CARS.
THEY'RE USING A PARENT'S CAR A LOT OF TIMES, AND THEY HAVE TO PICK UP THEIR PARENTS AND WHATNOT.
AND SOMETIMES THEY MAY BE LATE, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY, I WOULD SPEED, IF I HAD TO GO PICK UP MY GRANDMOTHER AND I HAD HER CAR, I DIDN'T SPEED AND DO LIKE 60 AND 70, BUT I, THE SPEED LIMIT WAS 30, I DO 35 AND 40.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH CHILDREN, WE WANNA CORRECT WHAT THEIR PROBLEM IS, AND THEN MAKE THEM, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY RECOGNIZE THAT I CAN ENDANGER SOMEONE.
SO NO, I'M AGAINST FORFEIT FORFEITURE OF CARS, AND I WANNA SEE US DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP A CHILD.
YES, THEY ARE WRONG, BUT LET'S TRY TO CORRECT THEM AND DO SOMETHING POSITIVE.
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SPEAKERS THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS? YES.MR. S UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE DO.
FIRST I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT READS ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT WAS MENTIONED BY MR. LEWIS THAT THIS IS NO LONGER ABOUT FORFEITURE, BUT MERELY ABOUT A MAXIMUM A $5,000 FINE.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT'S STILL ABOUT FORFEITURE, BUT THE PENALTIES, UM, HAVE BEEN, UH, CHANGED SO THAT YOU HAVE A PENALTY FOR A FIRST OFFENSE AND A PENALTY FOR A SECOND OFFENSE.
AND THE THIRD OFFENSE IS FORFEITURE.
NO, YOU, JUST TO CLARIFY BRIEFLY, UM, FORFEITURE IS NOW AN OPTION.
IT'S NOT MANDATORY, IT'S DISCRETIONARY.
AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO, UH, GO TO A JUDGE.
THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD HAVE TO BRING A PROCEEDING BEFORE A JUDGE WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE CONVICTION, AND A JUDGE COULD AUTHORIZE A FORFEITURE.
SO IT'S AN ADDITIONAL PENALTY TO DETER PEOPLE FROM DRAG RACING, AND NOT ONLY YOUNG PEOPLE, 16 TO 20, BUT ADULTS AS WELL.
SO IN, IN SOME FORM IT STILL EXISTS, IF NOT AT THE, UH, LEASE LEVEL, BUT AT THE JUDGE'S DISCRETION, YES.
I WOULD, UH, QUESTION THEN WHY WE'RE PUTTING IT INTO CODE HERE IN TOWN OF GREENBURG.
CERTAINLY I'M SYMPATHETIC WITH THE REALITY OF DRAG RACING.
BUT IS THIS THE PROPOSED CODE, THE SOLUTION, AND I SAY IN NO WAY, IT'S FEEL GOOD LE LEGISLATION FOLLOWING WHITE PLAINS AND YONKERS AS CO-DEPENDENTS, DEPENDENTS IN MONKEY C, MONKEY TWO.
AND BY THE WAY, HOW IS IT WORKING OUT FOR WHITE PLAINS AND YONKERS? BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LAWS ALREADY EXISTING.
SO DRAG RACING BY THIS CODE IS DEFINED AS DRIVING VEHICLES, DRIVING SIDE BY SIDE AND DOING SO AT EXCESSIVE SPEED.
SO MY QUESTION FIRST IS, HOW DOES THIS DIFFER FROM SPEEDING? WE HAVE EXISTING LAWS REGARDING SPEEDING, AND THEY DON'T LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF OFFENDERS WHO WOULD BE ENGAGED IN SPEEDING AT, AT ANY ONE TIME.
DOES GREENBERG HAVE SUFFICIENT POLICING TO ENFORCE EXISTING SPEEDING LAWS AS WELL AS THIS NEW LAW THAT'S PROPOSED? AND IF SO, AND, UH, IF WE DO HAVE THE MANPOWER AND IS EFFECTIVE, WON'T REPEAT OFFENDERS FROM SPEEDING OFFENSES THAT SUFFER THE LOSS OF THEIR LICENSE UNDER NEW YORK STATE LAWS WITH A BUILDUP OF POINTS.
AND IN ESSENCE THEN THE DRIVER'S LICENSE WOULD REMOVE THE P PERSON'S GUILTY OF DRAG RAISING.
I'M ALWAYS HOPEFUL THE TOWN BOARD WOULD, UH, PASS LAWS BASED UPON THEIR FUNDAMENTAL SOUNDNESS AND NOT ON THE, UH, HOPES THAT, UH, THE WAY TO CHANNEL THEM WOULD FI FI SAY, HIGH FINANCIAL THRESHOLD.
WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS A DEAD WRINGER FOR IS CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT, LIKE SPEEDING HAS ITS OWN GRADUATION FROM ESCALATING FINES IN THE HANDS OF, FROM HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS UP TO SAY NOW $5,000.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEEDING LAWS THAT GENERATE A PENALTY OF $5,000, DO WE? SO YOU WANNA HOPEFULLY HAVE A JUDGE TAKE AWAY A VEHICLE, NOT YOUR 140,000 LAMBORGHINI, BUT SAY A $25,000 CAR, WHICH IS MORE LIKELY TO BE OWNED BY RESIDENTS OF GREENBERG.
DOES FORFEITURE FIT THE CRIME? NOW, ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE IS AKIN TO THOSE WHO, UH, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF GUNS.
GUNS DON'T KILL BULLETS, DO SO HERE IN GREENBURG, THE VILLAIN IN DRAG RACING IS THE DRIVER.
NO, IT'S THE VEHICLE THAT'S INCARCERATED AND ACCOMPANYING THIS LAW, OR A SERIES OF PROGRESSIVE GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARDS, WHICH YOU'RE NOW PREPARED TO OFFER, COVERING TOO MANY LOOPHOLES, WHICH YOU DON'T SPECIFY AT THIS MOMENT.
SO IF WE ALREADY DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT MANPOWER TO ENFORCE SPEEDING LAWS, HOW IS THIS NEW LAW GOING TO BE ENFORCED? UM, AND FINALLY, WITH THE LAWS ALREADY PASSED, HOW
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IS IT WORKING OUT FOR WHITE LANDS AND YONKERS? UH, YOU, HOW LIKELY IS THAT THE AMOUNTS OF OF DOLLARS PROJECTED BY YOURSELF, MR. LEWIS, LIKE A LAMBORGHINI? UH, IS THAT NOT CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT FOR THE SAME CRIME AS SOMEONE DRIVING A $25,000 FORD? UH, IT SEEMS VERY SIMPLE THAT YOU'RE SAY, LET'S GO AFTER THE RICH GUYS.EVERYONE'S GONNA HATE 'EM ANYWAY.
SO GOING AFTER VEHICLES IS LIKE FIGHTING A HYDRANT BY CHOPPING OFF THE INDIVIDUAL HEADS, IT'S NOT FATAL TO THE DRIVER.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY MY COMMENTS.
I I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A LAW THAT'S WRITTEN TO COVER ALL THE EXIGENCIES THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING AT THIS POINT.
AND WHEN YOU DO HAVE SUCH A LAW, COMPREHENSIVE, THAT'S THE TIME TO BRING IT BEFORE THE PUBLIC FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, UH, MR. DECAY? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE SO, UNLESS, UH, THERE IS SOMEONE THAT, UH, ALSO SEEKS TO SPEAK.
UH, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYONE ELSE.
SO I JUST WANNA ADDRESS A COUPLE OF POINTS.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE, UM, ORDINANCES THAT ADDRESS SPEEDING NOW, AND PEOPLE DO GET ARRESTED, YOU KNOW, FOR SPEEDING.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A, UM, ORDINANCE IN, IN THE STATE CODE THAT ADDRESSES DRAG RACING.
THE PROBLEM IS, IT DOESN'T AUTHORIZE A FORFEITURE OF A VEHICLE.
AND THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO TAKE ANYONE'S VEHICLE, BUT IT'S TO PROVIDE AN INDI AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE FOR PE FOR PEOPLE NOT TO SPEED.
BECAUSE DRAG RACING CREATES ADDITIONAL RISK TO PICK PARTICULARLY DEATH BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING AT SUCH A HIGH RATE OF SPEED.
SO AGAIN, THE GOAL IS NOT TO FORFEIT A VEHICLE.
UM, HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE A SIGN, LET'S SAY ON A PARKWAY OR A STATE HIGHWAY THAT SAYS SLOW DOWN YOUR CAR COULD BE SUBJECT TO FORFEITURE, WHICH WOULD DETER PEOPLE FROM DRAG RACING.
UM, BUT THERE STILL WOULD BE SPEEDING TICKET.
YOU WOULD GET A, A, A, A TICKET FOR A NOISE ORDINANCE IF YOU'RE SCREECHING YOUR TIRES, AND YOU WOULD ALSO GET A TICKET FOR DRAG RACING.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE TOWN COULD BRING AN ACTION IN SUPREME COURT BEFORE A JUDGE TO FORFEIT YOUR VEHICLE, AND YOU'D BE GIVING A NOTICE OF THAT.
SO THE GOAL IS TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL PENALTY AND HOPEFULLY DETER PEOPLE FROM DRAG RACING.
THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL REALLY IS.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO WHITE PLAINS, I DID SPEAK TO THE ASSISTANT CORPORATION COUNCIL THERE WHO ENFORCES THE ORDINANCE THERE, AND SHE SAID, SO FAR THEY HAVE NOT HAD A, UM, DRAG RACING SUMMONS OR ARREST, UM, BECAUSE THE LAW IS NEW, YONKERS HAS HAD, UM, DRAG RACING, UM, SUMMONS IS ISSUED, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN NO, UM, FORFEITURES TODAY.
DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY, UH, UH, UH, OTHER PENALTIES FROM THE SUMMONSES? STIFF PENALTIES? WELL, THE PENALTIES FOR SPEEDING, UM, IN TOWN ARE, ARE STIFF.
YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE, UM, AS MUCH AS 400, YOU KNOW, DOLLARS AND SOMETIMES MORE DEPENDING ON HOW, UM, FAST YOU'RE GOING.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A PROGRESSIVE, UM, PENALTY.
AND REMEMBER, YOU GET POINTS, AND AGAIN, IF YOU GET SIX POINTS ON YOUR LICENSE IN A SIX MONTH PERIOD, 11 POINTS ON A SIX MONTHS PERIOD, YOUR LICENSE IS REQUIRED TO BE SUSPENDED.
UM, SO TWO SPEEDING TICKETS FOR GOING, LET'S SAY 30 MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT WOULD RESULT IN A MANDATORY, UM, SUSPENSION OF YOUR LICENSE.
SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY, UM, UH, A CERTAIN DETERRENCE TO, TO SPEEDING IN TOWN.
AND IF MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER GOTTEN A SPEEDING TICKET, YOU KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE VEHICLES ARE MARKED VEHICLES AND YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY A POLICE VEHICLE.
SO, UH, EVERYONE SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND BE CAREFUL OF THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN GETTING A SPEEDING TICKET, UH, THAT AMOUNTS TO THREE OR $400 WHEN THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
MAY I SAY ONE, AND ALSO YOUR, AND ALSO YOUR INSURANCE GOES UP QUITE A BIT.
UM, MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING, MS. WAYNE? DO YOU WANNA SPEAK AGAIN? YES, YES.
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SAY THE FORFEITURE OF A CAR SHOULD NOT BE DONE, PERIOD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM GET THEIR TICKETS, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY DANGEROUS FOR THE POLICE OFFICER TO CHASE 'EM, BECAUSE I CAN HEAR THE MOTORCYCLES GOING DOWN TO 87 AT THREE O'CLOCK, 2 30, 1 30 IN THE MORNING.
SO YES, THEY DO SPEED, BUT THESE ARE, I'M QUITE SURE, OLDER, YOU KNOW, 21, 22.
AND LIKE I SAID, IF YOU GIVE 'EM A TICKET WITH $400 AND I FIGURED THAT THAT'S, THAT'S STEEP, THEY WILL STOP, BUT FIND SOMEPLACE FOR THEM TO GO AND RACE.
THAT'S MY OTHER THING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE KIDS.
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YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY MS. WEEMS, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEED DRAG RACING IS NOT LIMITED TO, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE.UM, THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT MEAN DRAG RACE, SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO, UH, ASSUME THAT IT'S ONLY YOUNGER PEOPLE DOING IT.
AND, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE A DETERRENT FOR, UH, MORE MATURE ADULTS WHO SPEED AS WELL.
WELL, LIKE YOU SAID, WE TAKE THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOU DO, UH, A LOT OF THINGS, BUT DON'T TAKE THEIR CARS.
SOME OF THEM NEED THEM TO GO TO WORK TOO.
I THINK WE'RE READY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, MR. SAT, I APOLOGIZE IF A CAR LET'S, I DON'T OWN ONE, BUT LET'S SAY A CAR CAN BE PURCHASED FOR $25,000, DO YOU NOT THINK THAT THAT'S A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF MONEY? YOU HAVE A TALK ABOUT, ON ONE HAND, A $5,000 PENALTY FOR SPEEDING UNDER THIS CODE, NEW CODE, AND YOU WANT TO LEAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO JUMP IT UP TO $25,000.
IS THAT NOT CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT? AND BY THE WAY, NOT TO BE HUMOROUS, BUT, UH, THE FACT IS, THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, TWO BICYCLES RIDING SIDE BY SIDE IN THE SCHOOL ZONE COULD ALSO BE PROSECUTED UNDER THIS LAW.
I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA OF THIS, YOU KNOW, FORFEITURE OF THE VEHICLE IS ABSURD AND YOU GOT YOURSELF INTO IT, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO GET YOUR, DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET YOURSELF OUT OF IT WITHOUT LOSING FACE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY JUST STUPID.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
IF DRAG RACING IS TAKING PLACE AND IT LEADS TO THE DEATH OF SOMEONE, THAT MAY BE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE $25,000 OF THE FORFEITURE OF A VEHICLE MAY BE WARRANTED.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A JUDGE INVOLVED WHO EXERCISES THE DISCRETION IN A PARTICULAR CASE.
WELL, COULD WE MAKE IT A, UH, PETITION, UM, ABOUT REFERENDUM ON A BALLOT? I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO JUST US TO SAY THIS AND THEN TAKE IT.
BUT I, I AGREE WITH SAMIS ON THIS ISSUE.
AND I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, PUT IT ON, PUT IT ON A BALLOT AS A PROPOSITION AND TAKE IT OFF FROM, UM, STATING THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS A LAW.
BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S ALSO OVERKILL, AND I THINK WE REACHED IT ON THIS, ON THIS, UM, THIS ISSUE.
AND I THINK THE TOM BOARD WILL CONSIDER THEM.
ANYBODY, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS JUST A MOMENT.
CAN YOU PULL UP THE SCREEN? I WILL.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE, THAT HEARING THAT WE OPEN UP, UH, SECOND HEARING, UH, TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW RELATING TO NOISE, UH, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, LISTING THE NOISE, UH, UH, CREATED, LET'S SEE, UM, DUE TO, TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER THREE 80, NOISE OF THE DAKOTA OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, LISTING THE NOISE CREATED DUE TO AN UNLAWFUL SPEED CONTEST AS AN ENUMERATED RESTRICTED, UH, OFFENSE.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE HEARING OR OFFENSE.
I DON'T GET A VOTE FIRST, PAT.
SHOULD I PUT ON A GRANNY GOGO AND THEN WHEN THE MUFFLER COMES ON, I DON'T GET A TICKET.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GIMME A BREAK.
YOU KNOW,
AND THEN I'M GONNA FIX MY 69 LEMANS AND THAT'S A V EIGHT ENGINE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAPPEN TO LIKE CARS.
SO, BUT I'M SAYING THEY'RE NOT LOUD, BUT THEY'RE LOUDER THAN THE NORM.
SO DO I GET A TICKET AND I'M NOT SPEEDING.
I CAN GO FROM ZERO TO 60, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME AT LEAST A QUARTER OF A MILE, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE EXISTING, UM, NOISE ORDINANCES, UM, NOW FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS.
UM, UH, LEAF BLOWERS COME TO MIND, YOU KNOW, LOUD PARTIES, THEY'RE ALL ENUMERATED IN CHAPTER THREE OF THE TOWN CODE.
UH, WE JUST ADDED ANOTHER, UM, SECTION THAT PERTAINS TO, UH, DRAG RACING.
SO IF YOU DRAG RACING AND YOUR
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TIRES ARE SCREECHING AND IT'S VERY NOISY, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, UM, TICKET THAT YOU COULD RECEIVE DEPENDING ON THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES.SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL PROVISION, UM, INTO THE EXISTING, UM, A NEW PROVISION INTO THE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS DRAG RACING AS IT PERTAINS TO NOISE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I AM GOING TO ONCE AGAIN SAY I DISAGREE WITH THAT ONE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ADD THE CARS WITH THE V EIGHT ENGINES AND THEY ARE LOUDER.
AND THEN IF I WANTED TO GET IN ON A SPOT AND ON, IT'S REALLY CROWDED, I CAN GO FROM ZERO TO 60, SO I WOULD GET A SCREECHING OF MY TIRES COMING IN.
'CAUSE THAT'D MAKE SURE I HAD IT ADDITIONAL ENOUGH SPACE AND NOBODY SHOULD HIT ME.
BUT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONCE AGAIN, I'M GONNA SAY NO ON THAT ONE.
WE HAD, UM, PETER WICK WHO HAD, UM, ALSO SIGNED UP.
SO, UH, AFTER PETER WOULD, WOULD BE HOW, AND, UH, MARY BODEN.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY POINT OUT THAT WHEN IT COMES TO NOISE IN GENERAL FROM DRAG RACING, OR JUST RACING IN GENERAL FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SPEEDING, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT HAD TO BE A DEDICATED CONTEST.
THIS IS BECOMING A STATEWIDE ISSUE.
THERE'S A BILL IN COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW IN THE SENATE OF NEW YORK, BILL S 9,009, BASICALLY ISSUED BY STATE SENATOR ANDREW GRARD THAT'S LOOKING TO PUT A DECIBEL LIMIT ON EXHAUST SYSTEMS THAT CURRENTLY DOES NOT EXIST.
OKAY? IT'S GONNA EQUIP POLICE OFFICERS WITH DECIBEL METERS, IT'S GONNA RAISE THE MAXIMUM PENALTY FOR VIOLATORS FROM $125 TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO, MR. LEWIS, I WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK INTO THIS AND TO INCLUDE THIS IN ANY KIND OF UPDATE TO THIS NOISE LAW THAT ANA GREENBERG WOULD INCORPORATE FOR, FOR DRAG RACING.
BUT I WOULD'VE WANT THIS EXPANDED AS WELL, BECAUSE IT, LIKE, I, I GUESS THE POINT THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE MISSING HERE IS THAT THIS IS A SEVERE DISRUPTION TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN ITS SOUND.
IT'S, I MEAN, FORGET ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF KILLING SOMEONE, WHICH HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, BY THE WAY, ON THE, THE CROSS COUNTY PARKWAY, WHEN THE POLICE HAVE TO CHASE A SPEEDER WHO'S GOING EXCESSIVELY.
BUT YOU ARE DISTURBING THOUSANDS OF TAXPAYERS' LIVES AND THEY WANNA SEE SOMETHING DONE.
SO IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING 18 AND JOY RIDING.
YOU WANNA GO JOY RIDING, GO TO PENNSYLVANIA, UPSTATE NEW YORK OR NEW JERSEY WHERE THEY HAVE DEDICATED RACETRACKS WHERE YOU CAN DO THIS.
YOU DON'T DO IT ON LOCAL STREETS.
DID I GET THE NUMBER OF THAT BILL THAT HE WAS SPEAKING OF? IT'S S 9,009 IN NEW YORK, THOUSAND NINE IN NEW YORK.
IT'S IN COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, IS ISSUED BY THE SENATOR FROM, FROM BROOKLYN, ANDREW ES, AND IT'S GONNA START PUTTING DECIBEL LIMITS ON EXHAUSTS.
IT'S NOT, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MODIFYING YOUR ENGINE.
NOW YOU CAN, YOU CAN MODIFY YOUR MUFFLER AND IT'S GET AWAY WITH IT.
SO NOW THESE NEW LAWS ARE GONNA START CHANGING THERE.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT THIS TALENT LOOKS INTO THIS AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTS IT.
I TOO, UH, AGREE WITH THESE COMMENTS.
UH, THE NOISE IS A PROBLEM, BUT MR. LEWIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LAWS ABOUT LEAF BLOWERS ON THE BOOKS, AND YET WE STILL DON'T HAVE AN EFFECT ON LEAF BLOWER LAW.
AND PART OF THAT PROVISION IS BASED UPON THE INABILITY OR OF THE POLICE TO CIRCULATE THE FEW METERS THAT THEY HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S A NOISE VIOLATION.
HOW IS THIS GONNA BE DONE ON CARS OR OTHER VEHICLES WHO ARE ENGAGED IN UNLAWFUL SPEED CONTESTS? WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I, AT A LOSS REALLY TO, TO, TO UNDERSTAND THE THINKING WHY THIS WAS EVER PRESENTED.
YOU KNOW, IN THE PREVIOUS HEARING YOU MENTIONED CAR SPEED UNLAWFUL SPEEDING IN, IN CONTESTS COULD LEAD TO DEATH.
UH, MR. FEER CERTAINLY REMEMBERS THAT ON, UH, CHERRYTOWN ROAD, THERE IS A GHOST RIDER VIA, UH, BIKE PUT, UH, IS A MEMORIAL.
UH, THE BUS THAT HIT HIM, ARE WE GOING TO CONFISCATE THE BUS BECAUSE THE BUS ENGAGED AND KILLED SOMEONE? SO YOU WANNA HAVE EVERY SPEEDING VIOLATION PREPARED IN THE BASIS OF IT'S LIKELY, IT'S POSSIBLE IT COULD INFLUENCE SOMEONE'S DEATH.
AS FOR THE SPEED, I THINK YOU HAVE TO UNCOVER, UH, AND
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ALL THE POSSIBILITIES OF EXCESSIVE NOISE.CARS THAT TRAVEL ON THESE ROADS ALREADY NOT AT EXCESSIVE SPEEDS, VIOLATE THE NOISE COUNTS.
SO WHY LE LABORING? JUST TO MAKE THIS SPECIFIC TO DRAG RACING, UH, THIS TOWN BOARD FAVORS MOTORCYCLE RI RIDERS IN, IN LAST, IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND YET MOST CYCLES ARE ALSO A CAUSE OF EXCESSIVE NOISE.
ARE YOU PREPARED TO LEGISLATE AGAINST THEM? AMONG ALL THE RULES THAT WE HAVE IN EXISTING CODES FOR NOISE VIOLATIONS? THIS IS NOT JUST ADDING, THIS IS JUST A ACCOMPANIMENT TO YOUR CURRENT CONCERN OVER DRAG RACING.
DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE ON THIS HEARING.
YEAH, AND I JUST WANNA SAY THESE ARE JUST ADDITIONAL TOOLS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS A SITUATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.
OKAY, THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
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OKAY.SO NEXT WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, SO FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE HAVE MURRAY DEN.
EVENING IS MURRAY HERE? OH, THERE HE IS.
THIS, UH, PROJECT CAME UP BECAUSE WE WENT APPLE PICKING MY WIFE AND LA ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO TO THE SAME FARM THAT WE TOOK OUR KIDS 40 YEARS AGO.
MASTERS UP IN WARWICK, GETTING OFF THE THROUGHWAY AT SUFFERING.
I NOTICED THAT THE, UH, EXIT RAMP WAS MISS MARK, WHERE ONE MADE A RIGHT TURN.
IT WAS SIGNS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, CURTAIN WAS RIGHT.
SO I ASKED THE THROUGHWAY TO CONNECT, CORRECT IT.
UM, THEY, IN TURN IT SAID IT WASN'T THEIRS.
IT WAS D O T AND THEY FILED A COURTROOM REQUEST FOR THEM AND D O T THEIR SAFETY ADMIT SAID WAS OKAY.
COULD YOU PUT THAT PICTURE UP THAT I ASKED YOU ABOUT? UM, COMING BACK LAST SUNDAY FROM DINNER LUNCH WITH OUR GRANDCHILDREN, WE CAME THROUGH PEEKSKILL AND, AND THE SCREEN SHARING MY PICTURE.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SHARE THE SCREEN.
YOU CAN'T SHARE YOUR, THE SCREEN.
FELLA I ASKED YOU TO WHILE WAS WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE APPROXIMATE TIME OF THE EMAIL? I I IS IT A PICTURE FROM PEEKSKILL? UH, MURRAY? YES, BECAUSE I HAVE THAT HANDY.
UM, COMING BACK, WE CAME THROUGH PEEKSKILL AND ON MY NAME JUST BEFORE HANDS IN THE CIRCLE WAS A ROAD SPLIT.
AND, UH, THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT'S TURNED ANYHOW, THE ROAD SPLITS, THE ONE GOES TO THE RIGHT IS ONE WAY.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S ONE LANE WHERE, UH, ONE LANE AND THE LEFT EDGE IS RIGHT ALL THE WAY THAT IS PATENTLY ILLEGAL AND UNSAFE.
NOW I HAVE THE ADDRESS OF THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT SAFETY WHO ISSUED THAT WARNING.
AND WHAT IT SAYS IS, NEW YORK STATE SAFETY DIVISION HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES MEANS IF THEY CAN'T GET THAT ONE THING WRONG OR CORRECT IT, BECAUSE I'VE SENT THEM THAT PICTURE THREE YEARS AGO.
AND ON THAT PICTURE IN THE FILE IS THE DATE IN THE PLACE IT WAS TAKEN.
THAT MEANS THAT NEW YORK, ANY RULING BY NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS NO VALIDITY.
AND EVERY TIME IN GREENBERG, WHEN A REFERENCE COMES OUT TO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ADVICE, I WILL SAY IT CANNOT BE USED.
AND THAT GREENBERG PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS WILL HAVE TO EVALUATE IT INDEPENDENTLY.
AND THE DECISION TO USE PARTICULAR ROAD LINES WOULD BE GREENBERG'S PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS DECISION AND NOT NEW YORK STATES.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 YEARS.
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BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE THAT WROTE SOME OF THE RULES IN THE MANUAL.I WORKED WITH THE MARKETINGS COMMITTEE.
I KNOW EV I KNOW MOST OF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS IN THE UNITED STATES.
MORE OF 'EM KNOW ME BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN TWICE AT THE NATIONAL MEETING OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
I READ EVERY SINGLE MANUAL IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM IN WASHINGTON BEFORE THEY WERE MADE PUT ON, UH, SECURE SITES.
I WORK WITH THE TEAM THAT DESIGNED THE DOTTED LINE FIRM AUXILIARY LANES.
EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF THAT LETTER I SENT TO THEM.
YOU ALL GOT A COPY, WHETHER YOU READ IT OR NOT, NOT MY PROBLEM.
BUT EVERYBODY IN THE UNITED STATES AS A SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAW THAT PICTURE.
THAT WAS AT LEAST THREE DAYS AGO.
IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS WRONG AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO THIS.
AND IF IT'S NOT CORRECTED BY FRIDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, I WILL FILE A COMPLAINT THAT SOMEBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS NEGLIGENT IN THEIR DUTY AND IS CAUSING A SITUATION THAT IMPACTS PUBLIC SAFETY.
EVERY ACCIDENT THAT CAN BE AVOIDED, SAVE POLICE GOING THERE, FIRE GOING THERE, EMERGENCY SERVICES GOING THERE, TRAFFIC BEING BACKED UP.
UM, YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, SEND YOU IN THE SECOND ROUND.
TIM, I, I RESPECTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT AT THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU DID NOT KEEP TRACK OF ANY TIME.
AND, AND DID YOU GET FIVE MINUTES DURING YOUR PUBLIC HEARING? I THINK IN FAIRNESS THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO TIME ME AS ACCURATELY AS YOU DO, THAT YOU TIME, EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE BEFORE ME IN THE SAME MANNER.
BUT I AM CAREFUL TO OBEY YOUR RULES.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE ALL, EVERYBODY'S WATCHING THAT I MAKE A MISTAKE AND I'M VERY CAREFUL NOT TO MAKE A MISTAKE.
YOU'VE BEEN VERY FAIR WITH ME AND I RECOGNIZE THAT.
UM, MARY, I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD ATTEND SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE HAVING FOR THE, UH, POLICE REVIEW AND, UM, REIMAGINATION COLLABORATIVE THAT COMES UNDER TRAFFIC.
AND YOU SHOULD COME ON AND MAKE THAT ONE OF YOUR THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AT THAT COMMITTEE.
AND WE WILL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AND YOU WOULD BE FOLLOWING IT.
AND THE POLICE ARE IN CHARGE OF SEEING WHERE THEY ARE.
THESE TYPES OF, UH, INFRACTIONS AND THINGS CAN BE CHANGED FROM GREENBERG.
GREENBERG HAS A NICE TRAFFIC AREA AND I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
IS THAT SIGN IN GREENBERG OR IS IT IN THE COUNTY? IT'S BIG SCALE.
SO GO TO THE COUNTY AND ASK HIM TO DO THAT.
AND INSTEAD THEY DON'T KNOW THEN THAT'S ONE THING THAT SHOULD COME UNDER OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
UM, I ASSURE YOU THAT WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS NONPARTISAN ELECTION DAY IS LESS THAN A WEEK AWAY AND NOR ON THE TOWN BOARD IS RUNNING THIS YEAR.
BUT SOON IN 2021, LOCAL OFFICES WILL HAVE THEIR MOMENT IN THE SUN.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE TOWN BOARD TO COMMENT ON SCUTTLEBUTT THAT GINA JACKSON IS RUNNING, GOING TO BE RUNNING AGAINST MR. FINER FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR BACKED BY MR. SHEHAN AND DOING IT NEXT YEAR.
SHE CAN RUN WHILE SHE STILL RETAINS HER COUNCIL SEAT FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
SHOULD SHE LOSE, IS THE TOWN BOARD AWARE OF THIS OR IS THIS ALL A FIGMENT OF MOST OF THE POPULATION OF GREENBURG WITH THE JUNE PRIMARY? WE'LL STILL SOON KNOW WHETHER THIS TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE OR NOT.
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ONE SECOND.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I'M YOU TO NO, JUST JUDY, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
SO MR. ABRAMS HASN'T SPOKEN FOR A FIRST TIME, SO WE'LL LET HIM SPEAK.
UH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT THE, UM, MERLE ON THE MANHATTAN AVENUE IN FAIRVIEW.
AND UM, KEN, FIRST OF ALL, PAUL AGREED AND SUPPORTED IT.
KEN JONES, WHO IS THE LIAISON FOR FAIRVIEW, SAID AT FIRST HE DIDN'T AGREE AND THEN HE END UP AGREEING WITH IT AND SUPPORTING IT.
SO HE CALLED ME, HE SAID THAT, UM, WE WAS GOING TO MEET MYSELF, HIM, BISHOP PRESTON, REVEREND WILLIAM AND TERRENCE JACKSON.
SO WE HAD A MEETING AND KEN SAID THAT GINA JACKSON'S A FRANCIS, SHE WANTED TO JOIN.
AND I SAID TO KEN, YOU ARE THE LIAISON OF FAIRVIEW.
WHY IS TWO MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS JOINING THIS MEETING? BECAUSE YOU COULD BRING BACK TO THEM WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING.
OR ANYWAY, FRANCIS AND GINA JOINED THE MEETING.
NOW WE HAVE THREE BOARD MEMBERS AT A MEETING, AT A COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH END UP BEING A TOWN BOARD MEETING BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE OR WHY I FEEL THE IMPORTANT THAT HAVE THE MERRI MANHATTAN AVENUE AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY BE A PART OF IT SO THEY COULD HAVE PRIDE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND THE MEETING ENDED UP BEING WITH GINA AND FRANCIS AND KEN TALKING ABOUT PICKING UP BANNERS AND WHICH I TOLD THEM I DON'T MIND.
BUT THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON ANOTHER TIME IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE BANNERS.
SO NOW I THOUGHT ANY TIME THERE'S THREE BOARD MEMBERS DO THAT, IS THAT ACCEPTED AS THE MEETING? BECAUSE I FELT I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF.
AND IT CAME THAT REALLY GINA MADE IT INTO A SYSTEMATIC RACISM, UM, COMMITTEE, WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
SO I'M ASKING, AFTER THAT MEETING, NOBODY NEVER SAID NOTHING TO ME.
AND I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT, NOBODY GOT BACK IN TOUCH WITH ME.
AND YOU'RE JUST DISMISSING IT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT RESPECT TO EVEN SAY, ARE WE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH IT? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? SO, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING MY BEST TO TRY TO BE FAIR TRYING TO WORK WITH THIS BOARD, BUT SOMETIMES YOU'LL MAKE PEOPLE FEEL A CERTAIN WAY AND WANT TO ACT A CERTAIN WAY.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WHEN WE HAVE TWO BLACK COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WE GOT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR IN SUPPORT OF IT.
IT ONLY TAKE THREE VOTES TO, TO, TO MAKE ANY LAW COME TO BOW.
AND THE FAIRVIEW GREENBURG, WHICH IS MOSTLY I SEE 76% AFRICAN AMERICAN, DESERVE TO HAVE THE BOARD SUPPORT SOMETHING IN THE, UM, FAIRVIEW AREA.
SO CLIFF, I'M JUST GONNA STOP YOU THERE BECAUSE YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP, BUT YOU KNOW, OKAY.
GO INTO THE FIVE MINUTE PERIOD IF, IF YOU'D LIKE, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE, UH, UH, PUT THIS ON THE NEXT, UH, WORK SESSION AGENDA, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR A DECISION.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR I KNOW.
I DON'T BELIEVE, I APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD JUST SAY YES OR, OR NO BECAUSE THOMAS CLIFF, THAT WE WOULD, UM, I, AND I THINK THERE WAS SORT OF A CONSENSUS THAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.
UM, SO WE SHOULD MAKE THE DECISION AND, AND DO IT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
THE COMMITTEE MET, THE COMMITTEE HAD A DISCUSSION.
THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET AGAIN.
AND AT THAT TIME WHEN, YOU KNOW, AT THE, AT THE, AT THE END OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE'LL HAVE A, WE'LL, WE'LL COME UP WITH A DECISION.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE FORMED A COMMITTEE.
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING IT AT THE WORK SESSION? AND BECAUSE WE
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HAD THIS MEETING, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING OVER YOU.YEAH, WELL I'M TALKING OVER YOU BECAUSE IT'S MY FIVE MINUTES.
OKAY, SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO MOVE THE AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
THEN PEOPLE CAN SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.
SO PAUL, DID YOU WANNA MOVE THE RESOLUTION AGENDA? LET'S DO THE RESOLUTION.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
SO THERE'S NO DISTANCE, UH, CLIFF'S RENDITION OF HOW THE COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IS WRONG.
THE SAME NIGHT THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS PUT TOGETHER, I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THAT.
IT WAS AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING, SO I WASN'T AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
AT SOME POINT I WAS PART OF, I'M SORRY, I'LL WAIT.
BUT LET'S, UH, SHARE THE SCREEN.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE ON THE, UH, MEETING WHO ARE JUST WAITING TO, TO FOR THE
SO THEN WE CAN CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, THE DIALOGUE, YOU KNOW.
[ TOWN BOARD - 989-1640]
THE NEXT IS TB ONE AND TB TWO ARE BEING HELD OVER.[ ATTORNEY – 989-1615]
WHATEVER ATTORNEY RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX TERTIARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER LIBERTY 1 1 1 1 5 FAIR V PARK DRIVE REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES, 87,296.RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE RETENTION OF DYLAN BRAMAN, ESQUIRE OF THE LAW FIRM OF VITO BARKER, PORTER AND PATTERSON FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF THE COHEN LAW GROUP FOR THE REVIEW AND AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN IN ACCORDANCE, UH, TO THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATION COMMISSION, F C C, NEW REGULATIONS AT AN HOURLY RATE OF $250 AND A TOTAL PLUS NOT TO EXCEED 50, UH, YOU KNOW, THOUSAND UH, DOLLARS.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT SECOND.
[ CLERK – 989-1500]
UH, C ONE RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING 7:30 PM TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH TO CONSIDER THE TWO 20 2021 PRELIMINARY BUDGET, WHICH WILL BE RELEASED ON FRIDAY.UH, RESOLUTION SCHEDULING OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR 7:30 PM TUESDAY, NOVEMBER, UH, 10TH TO CONSIDER AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICATION BY EAGLE ENERGY STORAGE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 200 NORWOOD ROAD EXTENSION.
UH, RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 7:30 PM WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 20TH BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND RIDGEWOOD AND ELMWOOD OWNER, UH, RELATING TO ADDRESSED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT PREPARED BY J M C ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT IN CONNECTION WITH THE CLOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF EIGHT 50.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND AND WE DID GET A LETTER FROM THEM AGREEING IN WRITING TO THE NOVE, UH, JANUARY 20TH, 2021 DATE.
[ COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT – 989-1538]
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT PREPARED BY J M C ON BEHALF OF RIDGEWOOD ELMWOOD OWNER, AND OPENING THE PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD IN REGARD IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT EIGHT 50 DEL CHERRY, UH, ROAD.UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ COMPTROLLER – 989-1603]
UH, AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF OCON DAVIS.UM, AS, UH, THE AUDITORS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1231 2020 AT A COST OF 89,000 FOR THE TOWN COURT ORDERED.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
OKAY, SO NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK A SECOND TIME? I DO.
WHAT'S THE ORDER THAT JU THE ORDER IS UM, UH, PETER, DOES PETER WANNA SPEAK AGAIN? OKAY.
PAT WEEMS? UM, YES, I DID WANNA SPEAK BUT I WAS GONNA LET CLIFF ABRAMS GO FIRST BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO A RIDER ONTO HIS, BECAUSE I'M PRESIDENT OF THE FAIRGROUNDS CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND I ALSO WANTED TO SIGN ON THE STREET AND I'D SPOKEN TO SOMEONE I KNOW FRANCIS SHEEN AND HE WAS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, LET ME LET HIM START.
OKAY, SO CLIFF, CLIFF ABRAMS. OKAY, THANK YOU.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK KEN, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST MEETING, BEFORE
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THE COMMITTEE MEETING, AT THE WORK SESSION, YOU SAID THAT YOU AGREE.ARE YOU TAKING THAT BACK? SO, SO CLIFF, DO YOU WANNA JUST KIND OF NO, I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION.
IT IS A YES OR NO ARE 'CAUSE YOU SAY THAT YOU AGREE THE COMMITTEE, I'M ASK YOU WHEN THE COMMITTEE MET MEMBERS OF C I'M NOT COMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE.
LEMME GET MY FIVE MINUTES AND YOU CAN ASK AFTER MY FIVE MINUTES.
SO IT CAME TO, I LIKE TO ASK THIS QUESTION, FRANCIS.
JUST BECAUSE YOU ASKED TO BE A PART OF THE MEETING DON'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD BE FOR ORIGINAL, YOU WASN'T A PART OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S THREE BOARD MEMBERS AT A COMMITTEE MEETING, DO IT BECOME A BOARD MEETING.
AND IF IT DOES, DO THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THREE BOARD MEETINGS, THREE BOARD MEMBERS AT A COMMITTEE MEETING? SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT.
SO KEN, ARE YOU TELLING ME IF I DIDN'T SPEAK TODAY? COURSE YOU NEVER SAID AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING WE WAS GONNA MEET A WEEK FROM NOW OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
AND WE HAVE, AND I WOULDN'T KNOW NOTHING AND, AND I DESERVE A LITTLE RESPECT BECAUSE I AM THE ONE WHO BRUNG IT UP IN JULY.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THE PROBLEM IF YONKERS OF ALL PLACES, ONE OF THE RACIST CITIES IN, IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK CAN WRITE BLACK LIVES MATTER.
MY MENICK JUST CHOOSE TO WRITE BLACK LIVES MATTER AND MADE IT AT AN EVENT AND EVERYBODY AGREE WITH IT.
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH GREENBERG DOING IT ALONG WHEN WE HAVE TWO BLACK COUNCIL MEMBERS? I GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I'M NOT, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH WRITING THIS AND SHOWING SOME PRIDE.
BECAUSE SEE, WHEN YOU COME INTO MY AND, AND THIS CASE, YOU DON'T KNOW I'M A DISTRICT LEADER AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF FAIRVIEW GREENBURG CIVIL ASSOCIATION ACTIVE, AND I'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FIGHT FOR MY COMMUNITY FOR YEARS.
SO AIN'T LIKE, I JUST WANT JOHNNY COME LATELY AND I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH Y'ALL, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO BE DISRESPECTED.
AND, AND I FEEL DISRESPECTED BECAUSE AFTER THAT COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU NEVER OR ANYBODY ON THAT, OUT OF THE THREE BOARD MEMBERS SAY, WELL NEXT WEEK LET'S MEET AND FOLLOW UP OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SAY TO ME, OH WE ARE GONNA MEET AT THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE PAUL SAID LET'S DO IT AT A WORK SESSION WHERE IT COULD BE ON TAPE, PEOPLE COULD HEAR ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU'LL SAY YES OR NO AND WE'LL BE DONE WITH IT.
WE DON'T NEED NO MORE COMMITTEE TALK.
WE DON'T NEED NO MORE COMMITTEE TALK.
LET'S HAVE A WORK SESSION AND LET'S STAY WITH YOUR FIELD.
'CAUSE ONE MINUTE YOU SAY YOU FOR IT, NOW YOU WANNA PICK UP A BANNER AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO SAY, OH, WHERE THE BANNER WE CAN GET KIDS FROM LEY BURY.
AND LIKE I REALLY COULDN'T CARE WHAT THEY THINK.
I CARE ABOUT MY COMMUNITY AND, AND PEOPLE FROM THE KIDS IN MY COMMUNITY AND THE ADULTS PAINTING SOMETHING ON MANHATTAN AVENUE, RIGHT WHERE THE PROJECTS ARE 9 90, 33 AND 100.
EVERYBODY WALKS THAT WAY TO GO TO THE STORES AND THEY CAN HAVE SOME PRIDE IN SOMETHING THAT THEY DID.
AND WHEN THE POLICE COME IN LIKE THEY DID ABOUT A MONTH AGO WITH THE COMMANDER TRUCK, THE MACHINE GUNS, THEY WILL REMEMBER BLACK LIVES MATTER.
AND IT JUST DISGUSTED ME THAT I HAD TWO BLACK COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DON'T FEEL THIS IS IMPORTANT.
AND IF YOU, I DON'T WANT NO BANNERS.
THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITHOUT.
THAT COULD BE A SEPARATE THING FROM DOING WITH THE, UM, PAINTING ON MANHATTAN AVENUE.
IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO.
Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE CAME UP WITH THAT BEFORE I CAME UP WITH PAINTING IT ON THE STREET.
IF THAT WAS Y'ALL FELT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS LEFT SO I DON'T WANNA CUT YOU OFF, BUT I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO FINISH UP BECAUSE THE TIME'S RUNNING OUT.
OKAY, WELL ALL I LIKE TO SAY, I APPRECIATE THAT TIM.
I JUST LIKE TO SAY LET'S HAVE THIS WORK SESSION FOR PEOPLE FROM THE TOWN CO SEE IT.
THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE ANY MORE COMMITTEES, MEETINGS ABOUT IT.
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MS. WILLIAMS, PAT.PAT, ARE YOU THERE? UH, DO YOU WANT US TO COME BACK TO YOU? NO, NOW CAN YOU HEAR ME? I WAS TALKING.
I WAS SAYING THAT, UM, I WANTED TO HAVE THE STREET PAINTED IN ON HILLSIDE AVENUE BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF MY, UM, CIVIC ASSOCIATION AREA.
AND I WAS THINKING THAT THE BANNERS WERE GONNA BE DONE BY THE SCHOOL CHILDREN AT RICHARD J. BAILEY.
SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS AND I JUST FIGURED WE WEREN'T HAD STARTED ON THE STREETS YET.
ARE WE GONNA START ON THE STREETS? THAT IS TO BE DONE.
IS THAT CORRECT? I HAD CONTACTED THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND UHHUH
I DON'T THINK THEY ARE AUTHORIZING US TO, UH, PAINT ANYTHING ON HILLSIDE AVENUE.
NOT DEFINITELY NOT ON HILLSIDE.
THEN WE COULD HAVE A, BUT AND COMING IN FROM, UM, RIVERDALE, LONGDALE, FLORENCE, FLORENCE LONGDALE, AND UH, MCCLAIN FOR, YOU KNOW, MY AREA AND THEY, BUT YOU CAN DO WHATEVER ON UH, UM, ON MANHATTAN AVENUE.
MANHATTAN WE HAVE CONTROL OVER AND UM, AND THE SIDE STREETS WE HAVE CONTROL OVER.
WE HAVE CONTROL OVER, UH, STATE ROADS.
AND I THOUGHT THE BANNERS FOR UM, RICHARD J. BAILEY COMING FROM THE KIDS WOULD BE NICE TOO, SO THAT I WOULD ALWAYS, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.
UM, BUT I CAME TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON ELMWOOD AND NOT SO MUCH ELMWOOD, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT BASICALLY THE TAXES THAT ARE PAID BY ELMWOOD, UM, METROPOLITAN, UM, UM, METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB, ANY OF THE ASSISTED LIVINGS, ANY OF THE COMPLEXES, WHAT ARE THE TAX DIFFERENCES FOR THEM AND FOR THE PRIVATE HOMEOWNER.
UH, PAUL I ALSO RECOGNIZED YOU JUST MADE TIME TO FIND A PLACE FOR, UM, CLIFF TO HAVE A MEETING, A WORK SESSION MEETING.
YOU CLOSED DOWN MY WORK SESSION MEETING, UH, IN 2019 AND DID NOT TELL THE COUNCILPERSONS.
AND I WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO THINK OF A DATE THAT Y'ALL CAN GIVE ME FOR A WORK SESSION BECAUSE I DO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, THINGS THAT I BRING I WANNA BRING TOGETHER AT A WORK SESSION.
SO I WOULD FRANCIS, ONCE AGAIN, SHOULD I APPLY WITH YOU FOR WHAT DATE? YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU, UH, DO IT TOWARDS THE END OF NOVEMBER? NO, I'M NOT GONNA DO ANY TOWARDS THE END OF NOVEMBER BECAUSE I'M ON A COMMITTEE THAT REQUIRES ALL MY TIME, SO I KNOW I CAN'T DO IT THEN.
OKAY, SO THEN DO IT IN DECEMBER? YEAH, WELL WE MEET ON TUESDAYS.
JUST, UH, NO, WHAT I'M GOING TO, THAT'S, THAT'S STILL THE SAME THING WITH THE UM, WITH, WITH THE ONE, UM, WITH THE, UM, THE COLLABORATIVE IS GONNA BE BUSY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
SO WHAT I WILL DO FRANCIS, IS I'LL CALL AGAIN AND LEAVE A MESSAGE AND WE'LL SET UP A DATE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 2021.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? WAIT, YOU CALL JOAN FOR THE DATES.
WE DON'T HANDLE THE THEN I SHALL DO THAT.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T MAKE A AGREEMENT WE WAS GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION.
COULD Y'ALL COME UP WITH SOME INFORMATION FOR ME ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TAXES AND THEN MY MAJOR ONE IS I WAS READING SOMETHING FROM UM, GARRETT'S OFFICE, THE COMMUNITY, UM, CONSERVATION AND IT STATED THAT THE BUSINESSES ON ONE 19 ARE UNDER URBAN RENEWAL.
SO IF THEY'RE UNDER URBAN RENEWAL AND BOTH SIDES OF ONE 19 ARE NO LONGER ON URBAN RENEWAL, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY SHOULD ALSO HAVE COME OFF AT THE SAME TIME THE RESIDENTS DID AND THEY DID NOT.
NOW AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, WE ARE, WE ARE BACK TO SYSTEMIC RACISM AND WE HAVE PRIVILEGE FOR ONE GROUP AND A SECTOR AND NOT FOR THE OTHER.
I WANT US TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE MY COMMUNITY, THE TAXES HAVE INCREASED, THEY'RE INCREASING YET THE OTHER ONES AREN'T.
I'M WATCHING THE CARS BEING DOWNLOADED ON UH, ONE 19.
THE BIG TRUCKS COME IN AND THEY'RE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF TERRYTOWN ROAD AND I DON'T GET OUT FREQUENTLY.
SO I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE STILL DOING THAT AND THEY'RE DOING IT WITH IMPUNITY.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE LAWS, LET'S KEEP 'EM.
BUT I DO WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT I RECOGNIZE THAT THEY NO LONGER AND I WANNA THANK GARRETT FOR PUTTING THAT IN THERE.
SO I DID NOTICE THAT THEY AREN'T PAYING ANY ADDITIONAL TAXES.
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I DON'T LIKE IT, IT'S UNFAIR AND I'M GONNA TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.SO IN THE FUTURE YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER HAVE TO TAKE US BACK OFF AND PUT US BACK ON URBAN RENEWAL OR PUT ONE 19 CORRIDOR ON AND I EXPECT ANSWERS A ANYBODY ELSE? YES.
UM, HOUSE SAM AND MURRAY BOWDEN.
WELL I DIDN'T GET ANY ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS I RAISED DURING MY EARLIER COMMENT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, SO LET ME ASK IT FLAT OUT TO GINA.
GINA, DO YOU INTEND TO RUN FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR IN THE COMING ELECTION NEXT YEAR? I HAVE.
I'M NOT SURE WE, I'M NOT, I HAVE NOT MADE ANY TYPE OF DECISION.
SO SEE CLIFF, THIS IS REALLY WHAT'S RELATED TO YOUR ANSWER BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH BRANDING, NOT WANTING TO OFFEND CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT PUBLIC COMMENT USED TO RUN OUT WITH ANY WITHOUT A LIMIT AND SOME YEARS AGO I BOUGHT A LITTLE KITCHEN WINDUP TIMER AND I GAVE IT TO PAUL AND IT WAS FIVE MINUTES OR WHATEVER HE SAID IT FOR.
AND IT IS EVOLVED THROUGH THE SYSTEM NOW WHERE YOU HAVE THE ELECTRONIC TIMING.
SO TIM, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU CUTTING ME OFF.
WHAT'S COME UP TONIGHT, OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS THAT WE'RE LIVING IN A WORLD THAT IS CHANGING BEYOND ALL EXPECTATION.
NOT JUST HERE BUT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
STATUES ARE COMING DOWN, NAMES ARE COMING OFF BUILDINGS.
THERE IS A RECOGNITION THAT PEOPLE ARE EQUAL.
I JUST GOT NEW LICENSE PLATE WITH A HANDICAP ON IT 'CAUSE I NEED IT.
AND THE HANDICAP SYMBOL IS ABOUT AN INCH HIGH.
IT'S NOT AS BIG AS THE LETTER LIKE IT USED TO BE.
AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
HANDICAPPED PEOPLE ARE JUST PEOPLE AND THAT HANDICAP SYMBOL IS FOR A POLICE OFFICER TO CHECK.
I HAVE A HAND, A HANGER THAT I'VE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND USED IT WHEN I NEEDED IT, BUT LATELY I FORGOT TO PUT IT DOWN AND I WAS EMBARRASSED.
SO I PAID THE MONEY AND FILED THE PAPERS AND I NOW HAVE AN OFFICIAL HANDICAP LICENSE SPIKE.
BY THE WAY THE P D B IS MY FATHER'S INITIALS THAT HE STARTED GETTING THAT ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO.
I KEPT IT 'CAUSE I WANT REMEMBER MY FATHER, I ALSO APPLIED FOR A HANDICAP SPACE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE 'CAUSE MY DRIVEWAY IS QUITE STEEP AND UH, I CAN'T REALLY, MY WIFE CAN'T GET OUT OF THE CAR WHEN WE PARK ON A HILLS.
I HAVE TO LET HER OUT AT THE BOTTOM.
SO I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HANDICAP SPACES DESIGNATED AND I'VE APPLIED FOR THAT.
AND IN WINTER WHEN EAST TOWARDS THE AVENUE HAS TO MOVE THEIR CARS, I WILL GET MY CAR OFF THE HILL.
I WILL GET MY CAR OFF THE STREET IN UNDER OF THE SAME RULES THAT THEY DO.
THIS IS A, A CHANGE IN HISTORY THAT'S HISTORIC.
THE FUTURE BELONGS TO OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
AND UH, IT'S VERY STRANGE FOR ME WHEN WE ASKED ABOUT SHARING SCREEN.
I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT.
I HAVE NEW PHONES, I HAVE NEW WATCHES THAT ARE CONNECTED SO THAT THE KIDS CAN FIND US 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET LOST ONE OF THESE DAYS GETTING OLDER.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME FACILITIES YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG.
SOME OF US AGE FASTER, SOME OF US AGE SMALLER, SLOWER.
MOST OF MY FRIENDS THAT I WAS CLOSE TO, THEY'RE ALL THAN NOT MANY PEOPLE WOULD TALK TO ANYMORE.
SO THIS IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THE WORLD HAS CHANGED INCREDIBLY.
AND WHEN SOME OF THE THINGS YOU HEARD TONIGHT WERE INDICATIONS THAT PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGE IN THIS AREA AND THE OTHER AREA, THEY'RE ALL COMING.
MY PROBLEM WITH DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION MAY HAVEN'T CHANGED ENOUGH
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PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES AND AGENCIES ARE FOLLOWING UP ON THIS.WHETHER YOU FOLLOW UP ON IT OR NOT IS NOT REALLY RELEVANT ANYMORE.
I WILL POINT OUT IT EVERY PLANNING BOARD MEETING THAT NEW YORK STATE'S QUALIFICATIONS TO GIVE YOU ANY ADVICE, ZERO THAT YOU HAVE QUALIFIED TALENT ENGINEERS WHO CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE BASIS OF SAFETY.
AND I STRONGLY URGE THAT THE TOWN USE THEIR OWN QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO DETERMINE THE SAFETY OF THE ROADWAYS AND THE DIRECTIONS AND HOW THEY SHOULD BE MARKED.
SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY THAT A T EXIT IS THE SAFEST WAY TO GET OUT OF A ROAD.
THE SAFEST I V S THAT DUNKING DONUTS EXIT ON UH, TOMS FERRY ROAD.
WE CONVERTED TO A T T EXIT BECAUSE THE SIGHT LINES ARE MUCH BETTER IN BOTH DIRECTIONS THAN COMING UP THE STREET.
AND YOU GOTTA GO ALL THE WAY AROUND NOW TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT WHEREVER IT'S DOWN THERE.
'CAUSE THAT'S UP A HILL YOU CAN'T SEE TO THE RIGHT.
I SEE THE POST OFFICE MAKING LEFT TURN THERE 'CAUSE IT'S SAFER.
I SEE PEOPLE MAKING A LEFT TURN ENTITY 'CAUSE IT'S SAFER SAFETY COUNTS.
PEOPLE WHAT WE DID YEARS AGO WAS DESIGNED FOR A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT FOR A DIFFERENT WORLD.
YOU'VE HEARD IT TONIGHT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
ALRIGHT, MR. BODEN FOR FIVE MINUTES, TIM.
APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THE MEETING, BUT I WANNA COMMENT ABOUT THE URBAN RENEWAL BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THAT.
UH, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT WAS OVER EIGHT YEARS AS EVERYONE KNOWS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY I WANTED TO DO IS TO DO AWAY WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT BECAUSE THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT HAS THE CONNOTATION OF A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY.
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BECOME AN URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT IS FOR YOU TO BE DECLARED A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY.
AND THEREFORE YOU CAN GET FUNDS TO TRY TO BRING THAT COMMUNITY UP TO, UM, TYPICAL STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES IN THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT AND THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT DOESN'T, WASN'T JUST A UR AND IT'S THE SAME ZONING ON THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
THERE WERE DIFFERENT CLASSES OF USES IN THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE ADDRESSED THE, BASICALLY THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, THE EASIER ONES TO DO.
PLANNING IS STILL GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE REST OF IT.
BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NEXUS BETWEEN, UH, WE CHANGED THE ZONING IN ONE AREA AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE IN TAXES AND THEY EXPECT THE TAXES SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO UP BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A REVALUATION.
PEOPLE ARE PAYING THE, THEIR TAXES BASED ON WHAT IS BASICALLY THEIR ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH IS BASED ON THE INSPECTORS GOING OUT AND SEEING WHAT IS IT WORTH.
AND SO, UH, I'LL DO SOME MORE FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION REGARDING THE OKAY.
AND I'M ASSOCIATION BETWEEN, I'M SORRY, PAT UHHUH
AND IT'S AMAZING STATISTICAL UPDATES.
AND, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING A STATISTICAL UPDATE, BUT ACCORDING TO OUR REGULATIONS, WE HAVE TO DO A FULL ONE IN ORDER TO STAY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, ASSESSMENT.
AND THEREFORE, UM, AND I GUESS GARY COULD SPEAK TO THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE WITH LOOKING AT THE OTHER PARTS OF THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT? UH, AND I'LL TALK TO THE ASSESSOR, UH, REGARDING THE IMPACTS ON TAXES.
'CAUSE LET'S FACE IT, IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY, IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY AND YOU PUT SOMETHING THAT IS, IS PERMITTED, FOR EXAMPLE, SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY AND YOU PUT AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON THERE, IT THEY'RE NOT ALL ASSESS THE SAME.
YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT USE, THERE'S A DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT TO IT.
SO ON ONE 19, SOME OF THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE CALLED TIRED PROPERTIES.
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BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN RENOVATED MUCH.THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THE SAME TAXES AS A, YOU KNOW, A A MORE, A RENEWED OR A BRAND NEW BUILDING THAT IS GOING UP.
BUT I'LL LET GARRETT, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO WHERE WE ARE, WHERE ARE WE AND LOOKING INTO THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT, THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK AT BASICALLY, UM, HOW FAR BACK DOES IT GO? BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT IN SOME INSTANCES, BUT I'M LOOKING AT HOW LAND WAS TAKEN AND ONCE THE LAND WAS TAKEN, NONE OF THE THINGS PUT IN PLACE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
SO WHOEVER CLOSED DOWN AND SAID THIS WAS A BLIGHTED AREA, THE WHOLE AREA WASN'T BLIGHTED.
IT WAS DONE BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTED TO HAVE MONEY TO DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO, WHAT THEY FELT THEY USED THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS ALL BLACK.
AND I'M, RIGHT NOW, I'M AT THE POINT OF, UM, LOOKING AT THEIR REDLINING IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE COME AND TOLD ME THEY COULDN'T BUY A HOUSE THERE.
THEY WOULD GET, UH, MORTGAGES FOR WHITE PLAINS, BUT THEY WOULD NOT GIVE THEM ONE FOR GREENBURG IN THIS AREA FAIRVIEW.
SO NOW I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A LONGER POINT OF VIEW THAN YOU ARE.
AND I'M LOOKING AT WHO LOST THEIR HOMES AND WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM AND THEY GOT INSTEAD, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS NOT AFFORDABLE AFFORD.
I HAVE A, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M GONNA SHUT UP.
BUT I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M HIGHLY DISSATISFIED AND LIKE MARY SAID, TIMES ARE CHANGING AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND CHANGE IT AND MAKE IT RIGHT.
SO LEMME JUST SAY THAT WHOEVER IMPOSED THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT IS NOT ANYONE THAT'S ON THIS BOARD.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS FOR 25 YEARS ON THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT, AND MEANING THAT THERE WOULD BE 25 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD SAY THAT PARKWAY GARDENS OR PARKWAY HOMES OR ANY OF THE AREAS SURROUNDING OR ON ONE 19 ARE BLIGHTED ANYMORE.
WELL, GREENBERG REACTIVE WAS NEVER BLIGHTED.
PLEASE PAT, PAT, THAT THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE ADOPTED IN 20, UH, 2016, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT HAD EXPIRED.
IT IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT, IT EXPIRED.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE, BUT AT LEAST 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING TO CHANGE IT SO THAT WHEN YOU GO TO SELL YOUR HOME AND SOMEBODY SEES, OH, IT'S IN AN URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE CHANGED IT TO LEGITIMATE, I DON'T WANNA SAY URBAN RENEWAL'S NOT LEGITIMATE, BUT IT'S NOT BASED ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S IN EFFECT ANYMORE.
SO, BUT IT'S A MAJOR UNDERTAKING TO DO THE ENTIRE STRIP UHHUH
BUT LET WHAT DARREN HAS A MAP THAT HE'S GONNA PUT UP, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GARY.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T ANYBODY, I DUNNO ANYBODY OF COLOR TALK YOU.
OKAY? WE'RE NOW, AS I WAS GONNA SAY, I, SO WE CAN ALL GO HOME.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY OF COLOR WHO'S GONNA SELL THEIR HOUSE AND MOVE TO FLORIDA.
UHHUH
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AT FAIRVIEW THAT TOOK THE ONLY GROCERY STORE THEY HAD, SUPERMARKET THEY HAD? WELL NOW, BUT NOW YOU'RE CHANGING FROM CAR DEALERSHIPS TO GROCERY STORES.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M TELLING YOU.
I AIN'T CHANGING NOTHING FRANCIS.
DON'T TRY TO SLIDE THE ONE 19.
THE ONE 19 STRIP IS A COMMERCIAL STRIP AND, AND IT WAS ALL HOUSES.
YOU KNOW WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAD HOMES THERE AND THERE WERE STORES AND BUSINESSES OWNED BY BLACK I OH, NO, NO, NO, NO.
AND OUR AND OUR TOWN HALL USED TO BE THERE, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, FRANCIS, WHEN YOU COME TO THAT PART, MR. STROUD WANTED TO PUT HIS LITTLE BARBER, HIS BARBERSHOP THERE.
DONALD BROWN WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE ICE CREAM SOLD OUTTA HIS LITTLE STORE, COULDN'T HAVE THAT.
BUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN BLACK GOT WHATEVER IT WANTED.
NOW LIKE ALL THAT IS A THAT IS, THAT IS A FACT.
DO WE WANNA LET THE DEPARTMENT HEAD PART OF THAT DISCUSS MAKER AND THEN WE AND THEN ALSO
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YOU THINK THEIR MOTION ON THE FLOOR? NO, IT ISN'T.TIM LEWIS, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
SO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS CAN GO HOME.
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL NOT WE DO, WE HAVE ONE BLACK DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT HEAD.
WE DO HAVE, UM, ONE EARL EARLY AND WE DO HAVE, UM, GEORGE MALONE.
OH, HE'S, NO, HE'S THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
BUT YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
I'M, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A MEETING, UH, A WORK SESSION DEALING WITH THE SUBJECT AND THIS WAY WE COULD, UH, DO THE RESEARCH.
WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, UH, DO IT IN A ORDERLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WAY.
AND UM, AND, AND THEN DECIDE WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO FORWARD.
BECAUSE IT'S, I DON'T FEEL THAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING ANYWHERE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MOVES FORWARD AS A DENTIST CREW.
WHY DON'T MARY WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? PLEASE LET MARY SAY WE NEVER HAD A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO YEAH.
I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
MARY, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND SAY SECOND.
SO NOW YOU GUYS CAN STAY ON IF YOU WANT.
MARY, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU WERE GONNA SAY.
ISN'T THE MEETING ADJOURNED? SAY WE CAN STAY.
MARY, YOU WANNA SAY THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED? I'D LIKE TO.