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          AGAIN, THANK YOU 
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EVERYONE FOR COMING. 
          SO 
          [GASR Task Force - Open Forum]
I WANNA THANK, UM, OUR CHAIR, HOWARD TRIBBLE. 
          I WANNA THANK THE COMMITTEE OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR GREENBURG AGAINST SYSTEMIC RACISM. 
          AND I WANNA THANK, UM, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND VERY INTO MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE GREENBERG AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE, GREENBERG IS THE NUMBER ONE PLACE TO LIVE. 
          SO, HAVING SAID THAT, LET'S GET STARTED. 
          UH, MATTER OF FACT, I'M SORRY. 
          FORGIVE ME, HOWARD, I FORGOT TO LET YOU HAVE YOUR TIME. 
          FORGIVE ME , YOU. 
          YOU'RE DOING FINE. 
          MY JOB. 
          , YOU ARE TIME. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR JOINING US. 
          AGAIN. 
          THIS IS OUR THIRD, UM, UH, PUBLIC FORUM. 
          AND DURING THE FIRST TWO FORMS WE LEARNED A LOT, AND THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN VERY BUSY DOING THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TASKED TO DO, UM, AND WE'RE MOVING ALONG VERY WELL. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, CANNOT BE DONE FULLY UNLESS WE HAVE THE INPUT OF THE RESIDENTS FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          SO IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE YOUR INPUT, AND WE HEARD YOUR QUESTIONS BEFORE, BUT IN ANY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE, IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE THEN THROW QUESTIONS OUT TO YOU TO, UH, GET YOU FULLY ENGAGED IN EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING AND THAT WE CAN, UH, HAVE A GIVE AND TAKE SESSION. 
          AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THERE TONIGHT. 
          SO, AGAIN, I WILL PASS IT BACK TO GINA, BUT THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR, UH, COMING ON, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN, UH, FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR TRIMBLE. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, SO I'M GONNA ASK, UH, CAROL, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT AS YET THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST? AND IF NOT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND RAISE YOUR HAND AND, UH, WE WILL BEGIN STARTING THE OPEN SESSION. 
          THERE IS NO ONE IN THE CHAT JUST YET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WANNA INTRODUCE SOMEONE WHO, UM, HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT, UH, GREENBERG AGAINST SYSTEMIC RACISM. 
          I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TALK ABOUT SYSTEMIC RACISM ON HIS RADIO SHOW, AND HE WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT AND BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE DENNIS RUDIN, WHO HAS A CABLE SHOW, UM, AND DENNIS, I BELIEVE PEOPLE IN POLITICS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT IS THE NAME OF THE SHOW. 
          I, FORGIVE ME IF I MISSPOKE, BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA WELCOME YOU TO OUR SHOW. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO OFFER FROM OUR CONVERSATION? UH, OH, I THINK I MUTED YOU. 
          UHOH. 
          CAN YOU UNMUTE DENNIS FOR THIS, PLEASE? UH, THERE WE GO. 
          DENNIS, HOW ABOUT NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE NAME OF THE SHOW IS PROFILES AND ISSUES. 
          SORRY, I DON'T KNOW. 
          CABLE TELEVISION, NOT RADIO LEAST. 
          THAT'S WHAT I SEE AND THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL ME. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT, UH, GINA AND I THANK YOU FOR COMING ON THE SHOW, UH, WAS THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES RACISM HAPPENS BECAUSE OF CULTURAL DIFFERENCES. 
          THERE ARE TIMES WHEN, UH, PEOPLE OF OTHER CULTURES HAVE JUST NEVER HAD REALLY ANY CONTACT WITH, WITH, WITH WHITE PEOPLE. 
          UM, I GREW UP IN A MIXED CULTURE HERE. 
          I WENT TO THE VALHALLA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, BUT WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE, IT WAS E E ECONOMICS. 
          THE, THE TENSION BETWEEN THE BLACK AND WHITE STUDENTS WASN'T PURELY BASED ON RACE, IT WAS BASED ON ECONOMICS BECAUSE, UM, THE, UM, THE WHITE STUDENTS GOT ALONG PRETTY WELL WITH THE MIDDLE CLASS BLACK STUDENTS, BUT IT WAS THE POORER KIDS THAT CAME ON SCHOLARSHIP AND, AND, UM, AND IT BEING A, A TEACHER FOR 21 YEARS IN, IN THE BRONX, IN THE INNER CITY, UM, A A AGAIN, UM, MANY OF MY STUDENTS, UH, AND I HAD ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF STUDENTS, ALL DIFFERENT ACADEMIC LEVELS, AND MANY OF THEM JUST HAD STEREOTYPES OF WHAT WHITES WERE AS THEY SAW THEM, UH, IN MOVIES, IN TV. 
          THEY HAD NO REAL, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCEPT BECAUSE 
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THEY JUST DIDN'T INTERACT WITH THEM. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BASICS THAT I'VE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED IN, IN LIFE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, DENNIS, FOR SHARING THAT. 
          LET'S TALK, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT DENNIS, JUST WHAT DENNIS JUST SAID, JUST LEARNING AS, UM, BEING A TEACHER OF 20, 22 YEARS IN THE BRONX, WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK ABOUT THAT AND, AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, TODAY'S, TODAY'S CHALLENGES? I'LL SAY, UH, I THINK, CAN I SAY SOMETHING, GINA? OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT DENNIS MADE, AND I THINK THAT GOES BOTH WAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR BLACKS AND WHITES AND JUST FOR OTHER CULTURES THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER IN GENERAL, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN EXPOSED TO EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, KNOW, WE TEND TO BELIEVE OR, OR THINK ABOUT WHAT WE SEE ON TV, WHAT WE SEE ON THE NEWS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS BEING HOW, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER QUOTE UNQUOTE GROUP IS, AND IT'S AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WE SEE IT EVEN MORE NOW WITH SOCIAL MEDIA MM-HMM. 
          . 
          EXACTLY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          I SAY SOMETHING ON THAT. 
          CAN I SAY NO ABS? SO I'M GONNA HAVE BISHOP PRESTON AND THEN I'LL HAVE DR. 
          ALLEN. 
          UH, I, I, I AGREE WITH BOTH, UH, COUNCILMAN JONES AND, AND DENNIS, UH, RU RUDIN. 
          UM, AND, AND COMING FROM, UH, UH, AN ERA WHERE RACISM WAS, WAS PARAMOUNT, REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UH, WHEN I WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD, UH, SEVEN BLACK MEN GOT HUNG IN MY TOWN JUST FOR LOOKING AT A WHITE WOMAN. 
          DIDN'T TOUCH, JUST LOOKED. 
          AND THEY WERE HUNG BY THE NECKS UNTIL THEY DIED. 
          UH, AND, AND, AND WORKING WITH THE JEWISH CULTURE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER PROGRAM THIS FRIDAY, AND WE'RE IN, I AGREE THAT WE DON'T, UM, WORK TOGETHER LIKE WE SHOULD. 
          WE, WE ARE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH EACH OTHER AS WE SHOULD, BUT I THINK BOTH THE BLACK AND THE WHITE CULTURES COME TO, TO THE TABLE, THE TABLE OF COLLEGE, THE TABLE OF SCHOOL, THE TABLE OF SOCIAL, UH, INTERACTIONS WITH A TAUGHT STIGMA THAT IS HARD TO GET OVER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHEN I, WHEN I, WHEN I DEAL WITH, WHEN I'M WORKING WITH THESE, UH, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND ALUMNI AT THE, UM, JEWISH SCHOOL, AND STUDENTS ARE TELLING ME THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AN ADVANTAGE. 
          THEY'VE BEEN TAUGHT THAT THEY HAVE AN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE WHITE WHEN THEY GRADUATE TO GET JOBS, TO GO TO COLLEGE, TO GET FUNDING THESE THINGS. 
          THEY'RE TAUGHT THAT WHEN, WHEN STUDENTS TELL ME, UH, THAT THEY, THEIR PARENTS WILL NOT PERMIT THEM TO HAVE RIGHT, RIGHT HERE IN GREENBURG, UM, THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING MM-HMM. 
          , THE PARENTS TEACH THEM THAT THEY CAN'T, CAN'T HAVE ONE BLACK FRIEND AT THE TIME MM-HMM. 
          , UH, WHEN BLACK PARENTS DO THE SAME THING IN REVERSE, THEN, THEN THAT, THAT IS A LOT OF THE BASIS OF THE PROBLEM. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT WHEN WE GET TO SCHOOL OR WHEN WE GET TO COLLEGE, WE ARE TAUGHT THAT AT OUR DINNER TABLE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          RIGHT. 
          SO LET'S, SO LET'S, SO NOW LET'S MOVE THIS ON TO POLICE AND RACISM. 
          LET'S LET, LET'S START THE DISCUSSION THERE. 
          DOES ANYONE, MATTER OF FACT, ACTUALLY, UM, BISHOP PRESTON, WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR STORY YOU HAD BROUGHT TO US, UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK REGARDING WHEN YOU WERE DRIVING YOUR TRUCK. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          UM, I, UH, THIS HAS BEEN, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I WAS, UH, COMING DOWN NORWOOD ROAD, TURNING RIGHT TO GO ONTO ONE 19, GOING BY THE B M W STORE AND A CAR COME OUT OF THE B M W PARKING LOT, JUST, AND, AND DIDN'T STOP. 
          I HAD TO SWERVE AND GO OVER IN THE EASTBOUND TRAFFIC, UH, THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC TO MISS THIS PERSON. 
          SAW THE POLICE SITTING THERE, THE POLICE COMES AROUND, THIS GUY THAT PULLED OUT IN FRONT OF ME WITHOUT STOPPING AND GETS BEHIND ME FOR PASSING BY A SCHOOL BUS THAT WAS PARKED, UH, DISCHARGING CHILDREN. 
          I PULL OVER IN THE KMART PARKING LOT, AND WHEN, AS SOON AS HE GOT BEHIND ME, I TURNED MY FOUR-WAY FLASHES ON TO INDICATE THAT I'M GONNA PULL OVER, OVER IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          AND HE GETS OUT OF HIS CAR WITH AN ATTITUDE. 
          I COULD TELL HE HAD AN ATTITUDE BY, BY HIS MANNERISM OF WALKING AFTER HE, 
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WHEN HE CLOSED THE DOOR ON HIS CAR, HE PUTS HIS HAND ON HIS WEAPON AND UNH HOLSTER HIS WEAPON AND WALK UP TO MY CAR. 
          I HAVE MY HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL WHEN HE LOOKS INTO MY, INTO MY TRUCK. 
          HE SAID, OR H E L L, BISHOP PRESTON. 
          AND THEN HE TALKS TO ME AND LET ME GO. 
          AND, AND TO ME, THAT'S SOME KIND OF BIAS THAT REALLY IS RACIAL BIAS, AND HE SHOULD NOT HAVE APPROACHED ME THAT WAY JUST FOR PASSING BY A SCHOOL BUS MM-HMM. 
          , UH, WITH, UH, DISCHARGING KIDS. 
          SO, SO HAVING SAID THAT, AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS, WHAT WE SAID IS, WELL, HOW WOULD YOU HAVE WANTED TO BE APPROACHED? HOW WOULD YOU HAVE WANTED TO, UM, THE POLICE OFFICER TO COME AND ADDRESS YOU? I WOULD'VE, I WOULD'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I NEVER BEEN A COMBATIVE PERSON WHERE POLICE ARE CONCERNED, WELL BEING, BEING A POLICE CHAPLAIN, , THAT YOU HAVE, YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN DECORUM. 
          UH, BUT I, I'VE BEEN STOPPED MANY TIMES BY POLICE, UM, AND I'VE HAD POLICE TO DO DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO REAFFIRM THE FACT THAT, THAT GREENBERG IS ONE OF THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT I'VE ENCOUNTERED. 
          I HAVE TO HAVE TO QUALIFY THAT. 
          BUT THERE ARE PROBLEMS I WOULD PREFER TO BE APPROACHED IN, IN A, IN A, UH, GENTLE WAY. 
          YOU KNOW, DON'T, DON'T, UH, START YOUR ENCOUNTER IN AN ESCALATED ATTITUDE. 
          THEN YOU CO UH, THEN YOU GOTTA PULL YOUR ATTITUDE DOWN APPROACH AND, AND ADDRESS ME, UH, ACCORDING TO THE PROBLEM. 
          UH, I, IF I HAD SHOT SOMEBODY, I COULD UNDERSTAND, BUT I SIMPLY COULDN'T STOP BECAUSE I'M AVOIDING THE PERSON THAT, THAT CUT ME OFF. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND, AND IF HE HAD APPROACHED ME AND SAID, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, COULD I HAVE YOU DRIVE A LICENSE IN THE RESTORATION CARD? I WOULD'VE GIVEN IT TO HIM BEFORE HE, IF HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ME, BUT TO, TO, TO GET OUTTA HIS CAR, WALKING MAD AND, AND, AND PULL HIS WEAPON OUT AND HOLDING HIS WEAPON DOWN. 
          HE NEVER POINTED THE WEAPON AT ME, BUT HE'S HOLDING IT DOWN BY HIS SIDE. 
          LIKE, UH, HE'S APPROACHING, UH, SOME KIND OF ARMED, UH, CRIMINAL. 
          THAT'S NOT THE FIRST APPROACH THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE WITH A TRAFFIC STOP, IN MY OPINION, OR WITH AN ORDINARY TRAFFIC STOP. 
          RIGHT. 
          NO, AND NO, I WAS ACTUALLY TURNING IT OVER TO YOU, HOWARD, JUST FROM YOU BEING A FORMER POLICE OFFICER, HOW, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS HIS CONCERN? WELL, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONCERN IS RIGHT ON, UH, BISHOP PRESSION, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE S U V THAT YOU ARE DRIVING. 
          IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT A MALE BLACK THAT'S BEHIND THE WHEEL, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, UH, AND THE POLICE OFFICERS SHOULD NOT TREAT YOU ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN IF YOU WERE A FEMALE WHITE DRIVING A MERCEDES-BENZ, LAMBORGHINI , OR A LAMBORGHINI. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT IS THAT ANY ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, UM, THAT IT'S THEIR TRAINING, AND THAT GOES ON TO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND NATURALLY IT HAS TO START WITH THE HEAD, WITH, WITH CHIEF MCNERNEY AND WAY HE SETS UP HIS TRAINING NOW IN GREENBERG, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GET, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE, AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU ARE GETTING RECRUITS, THESE RECRUITS ARE COMING RIGHT OUTTA HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF WORLD E EXPERIENCE, NOT A LOT OF, UH, LIVING TIME. 
          THEY'RE, AND A LOT OF THEM DON'T COME FROM GREENBURG, AND THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM MANHATTAN AVENUE MAY BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE MINUTE THAT THEY GET THEM IN THERE, THEY TRAIN THEM THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE ACTING AND INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU CANNOT ALLOW THEM TO GO BY WHAT THEY HEAR IN THE LOCKER ROOM OR WHAT THEY SEE ON TV. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY, FROM DAY ONE, THEY START IMPLEMENTING, YOU KNOW, GOOD TRAINING, UM, ASPECTS IN THEIR RECRUITS, PUTTING THEM WITH, YOU KNOW, GOOD QUALIFIED OFFICERS, SUCH AS THE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY PREPARE A SENIOR OFFICER WITH A YOUNG RECRUIT. 
          BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE, UH, THE OFFICERS WHO YOU PAIR THEM WITH. 
          AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK, MY, UH, HOWARD TO, TO THE OPENING STATEMENTS FROM, UH, MR. RUDIN AND, UH, AND COUNCILMAN, UM, JONES JONES, WHEN THIS IS TAUGHT TO THEM, THEY'RE GONNA BRING THAT WITH THEM TO, TO THE TABLE. 
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UH, IT, IT'S JUST, AND, AND IT'S GONNA TAKE, IT'S GONNA TAKE GENERATIONS TO GET THIS OUT OF THEM. 
          IT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. 
          IT'S, UH, BE BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING AT THE DINNER TABLE FOR 25 YEARS LISTENING TO THIS, AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING ONTO A POLICE FORCE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO TRAINING, SENSITIVITY TRAINING, WEAPONS TRAINING, UH, UH, AND OTHER TRAININGS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY GO THROUGH. 
          UH, AND WHEN, WHEN THEY COME AND SEE A BLACK PERSON WITH A, WITH AN S U V THAT GOT RIMS ON IT AND BIG TIRES, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH BLACK THS. 
          IT'S, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT. 
          I MEAN, AND, AND, AND, UH, I'M NOT BLAMING THE GUY, BUT I, I'M, I'M, I AM, UM, STATING IT AT A, AT A, AS A PROBLEM. 
          AND IF THIS IS NOT, UH, HANDLED EVEN DEEPER THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE PROBLEM. 
          BECAUSE IF THEY'RE STILL BEING TAUGHT THIS AT HOME, THEY'RE GONNA ALWAYS BRING IT TO, TO, UH, TO THE, UH, THE JOB OR TO THE, UH, OFFICE OR TO THE STREETS. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S, THOSE PLACES ARE NOT, NOT PLACES THAT WE HA THAT, THAT WE SHOULD DEAL WITH THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. 
          IT HA IT HAS TO START IN HOW THAT PERSON IS TAUGHT. 
          AND, AND, AND LET'S BE FRANK, MOST OF MOST OF US THAT HA THAT, UH, EXPERIENCE DISCRIMINATION AND, AND SEPARATISM, WE, WE EXPERIENCE IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN REGIMENTED, NOT JUST THROUGH TEACHING AT HOME, BUT EVEN THROUGH THE GOVERNMENTAL STRUCTURES OUR GOVERNMENT STRUCTURES HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN TAINTED AGAINST BLACKS FOR YEARS, AND NOBODY SEEMED TO WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          I, I GET UPSET WHEN, WHEN WHITE PEOPLE OR WHITE POLICE SAY, WELL, I KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM, BUT DON'T BLAME ME. 
          BUT IF YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO TURN THE PROBLEM AROUND THAT YOU KNOW, IS A PROBLEM, THEN I HAVE TO BLAME YOU. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND WE HAVE TO HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING STATEMENTS LIKE THAT. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          WAIT, SO DENNIS, I SEE DENNIS, UH, CAROL DENNIS IS TRYING TO SPEAK. 
          YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO HIT YOUR SPACE BUTTON SO YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. 
          YOU, YOU MUTED DENNIS. 
          DENNIS. 
          UH, THERE YOU GO. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, DENNIS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SAYING, IF YOU HAVE ONE ROTTEN APPLE THAT CAN SPOIL A WHOLE THING, UH, SOMETIMES IN INSTITUTIONS, WHETHER IT'S POLICE, I'VE SEEN IT IN SCHOOLS, DEPARTMENTS, WHATEVER, IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF LEADER WHO TALKS ABOUT FAMILY OR WORKING TO, TO, TO TOGETHER, UM, WHETHER YOU'RE DEALING WITH CHILDREN, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S HARDER WITH OLDER PEOPLE BECAUSE CERTAIN THINGS, LIKE YOU SAY, HAVE BEEN INGRAINED. 
          UH, WHEN I WORKED WITH THE TEENAGERS AS THE HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, IT'S A LOT EASIER. 
          BUT STILL, UM, I, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO, TO POLICE MANY OF THEM. 
          IF, IF THE POLITICS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS, IS TO, IS TO TRAIN THEM TO THINK THAT WAY. 
          IF THE LEADERS IN CHARGE ARE GONNA TRAIN THEM TO BE ANXIOUS AS FAR AS APPROACHING PEOPLE OF COLOR OR WHATEVER, THEN THEY'RE GONNA REACT THAT WAY. 
          BUT IF YOU CAN GET GOOD LEADERS IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S NOT ONLY POLICE, AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN MANY INSTITUTIONS AND BUSINESS, THAT, THAT TALK ABOUT THE COMMON GOAL AND THE FACT THAT, THAT, LIKE IN THE WORKFORCE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO LOVE THE PERSON, BUT WE ARE FAMILY. 
          IF THE DEPARTMENT IS FAMILY AND WE STICK TOGETHER, WE ALL DO WELL. 
          BUT IF IT'S NOT, THEN, THEN WE'RE ALL FRAGMENTED AND WE DON'T TRUST EACH OTHER. 
          AND I'VE SEEN THAT IN MY LIFE, BOTH ON THE PROFESSIONAL JOB BASIS AS WELL AS IN INDIVIDUAL TOWNS. 
          YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ORIENTATION IS OF THAT PARTICULAR TOWN. 
          THAT'S WHY I THINK THE, THE THING ABOUT THIS SYSTEMIC, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN HAVE LEADERS WHO ARE NOT FOLLOWING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE, WHO AREN'T WEARING CAMERAS, WHO AREN'T TAKING RESPONSIBILITIES, AND YOU CAN GET THEM OUT, 
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THEN THE PEOPLE THAT JOIN THAT FORCE, THAT POLICE FORCE, THAT COMPANY OR WHATEVER, THEY WILL RESPOND TO THE LEADERS THAT TEACH THEM POSITIVE ATTITUDES. 
          AND IF YOU GET IN NEGATIVE LEADERS, YOU'LL HAVE NEGATIVE ATTITUDES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO LET ME, SO DENNIS, SO TELL ME, WHAT SUGGESTIONS WOULD YOU HAVE? SO YOU HAVE HEARD, YOU'VE HEARD YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          YOU HAVE BEEN QUITE, UM, INVOLVED IN LISTENING TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH SYSTEMIC RACISM, ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REALLY GOTTEN A LOT OF ATTENTION FROM THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD. 
          SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, NOW THAT WE, I, I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT THAT NOW WE HAVE THE ATTENTION OF THOSE THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE ATTENTION OTHERWISE. 
          SO NOW IT'S LIKE, WOW, I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS REALLY HAPPENED. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE ALL THE PROTEST AND THE PEACEFUL MARCHES OCCUR. 
          SO, AND, AND SAYING THAT, WHAT SUGGESTIONS WOULD YOU GIVE YOU? NOT BEING A PERSON OF COLOR, AND I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU D BUT NO, BUT, BUT, BUT I HAVE EXPERIENCED MM-HMM. 
          , I HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE POLICE TOO. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I WAS, I WAS DRIVING IN THE BRONX, SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT ECONOMICS AND GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, AND I PASSED BY A FEW FEET, A, AN EXIT SIGN. 
          SO I PULLED OVER TO THE CURVE, UH, SLOWLY BACKED OUT AND WENT UP THE RAMP. 
          THIS IS IN THE BRONX, AND I HAPPENED TO HAVE A SUIT AND TIE ON, 'CAUSE WE WERE GOING TO LOBBY IN, IN ALBANY. 
          AND SO I'M DRIVING MY CAR UP THE RAMP, AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. 
          INSTEAD OF MAYBE IF I, IF I DID DO SOMETHING WITH A TRAFFIC IN INFRINGEMENT, INSTEAD OF JUST WAVING ME OVER TO THE SIDE, TWO POLICEMEN TOOK OUT THEIR GUNS, AND THEY COME, THEY CAME RUNNING TOWARDS ME. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE COMING RUNNING TOWARDS ME WHILE I WAS EXITING THE RAMP IN MY CAR. 
          NOW, FORTUNATELY, I WAS SO SHOCKED, I JUST FROZE BECAUSE MY FRIEND WHO, WHO, WHO IS UH, PUERTO RICAN, SAID TO ME, HAD YOU NOT FROZEN, AND THE WAY THEY ACTED, THEY, THEY MIGHT'VE DONE SOMETHING IF, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T RATIONAL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY CON I THINK, AGAIN, ECONOMICS, GEOGRAPHY, AND, AND ALSO TELEVISION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAD THOSE DEMONSTRATIONS WITH THE BLACK LIVES, UH, I WENT ALL OVER THE CHANNEL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU TURN TO FOX AND, UM, THEY SHOWED MOSTLY THIS WAS IN, IN MANHATTAN, THEY WERE BREAKING INTO MOSTLY MACY'S AND THOSE STORES. 
          BUT THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN TO THE VIEWERS THAT THE, THAT THE ACTUAL DEMONSTRATION WAS NOT IN THAT BLOCK. 
          IT WAS TAKING PLACE BLOCKS AWAY. 
          AND OF COURSE, SOME OF THESE, UH, GUYS WERE VERY, UH, RADICAL, UH, CONSERVATIVES. 
          AND, AND THEY WERE SAYING LIKE, OH, THEY'RE COMING TO GET US. 
          THEY'RE COMING TO GET US. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THEY DIDN'T IDENTIFY OTHER STATIONS GAVE A MORE MODERATE INTERPRETATION. 
          THEY SAID, LOOK, THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT PICTURES. 
          YOU'RE JUST SEEING DIFFERENT SHOTS. 
          AND SOME OF THEM SAID, MOST OF THE PICTURES WERE LIKE, PEACEFUL. 
          SO YOU HAVE ALL, AND YOU HAVE ALL THE, ALL THIS MEDIA, ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE GOTTA TRY TO GET IS, IS YOU'VE GOTTA TEACH PEOPLE, YOU'VE GOTTA SET UP INDEPENDENT FORUMS LIKE THIS WHERE YOU CAN GET PEOPLE TO MEET MAYBE, UM, INVITE, UM, UH, DIFFERENT GROUPS, UM, TO, TO TO HA UH, TO, TO A, UM, TO A COMMUNITY CENTER AFTER COVID MM-HMM. 
           TO, TO HAVE LIKE A DINNER TOGETHER, UH, SO THAT THEY, THEY GET TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, AND THAT THEY REALIZE THAT, THAT PEOPLE, OUR PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE, RIGHT? UH, THAT YOU CAN'T JUDGE THEM BY WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THEIR CULTURE IS. 
          YOU HAVE TO JUDGE THEM ON, ON THEIR CHARACTER. 
          BUT MANY PEOPLE DON'T LIVE IN THAT, IN THAT KIND OF WORLD. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE GET UP AND WE RUN TO WORK, AND WE, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF KIDS IF YOU ARE YOUNGER OR WHATEVER. 
          AND, AND IT'S KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES, THE SCHWARTZ'S, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. 
          AND, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A RAT RACE. 
          SO, AND OF COURSE, MEDIA IS CONSTANTLY DOMINATING OUR LIVES. 
          SO THERE TENDS TO BE A LOT OF STEREOTYPE ON THE POSITIVE SIDE 
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AS A, AS A PERSON WHO'S, WHO'S WORKED WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE, UM, FROM MIDDLE, MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE SUSCEPTIBLE. 
          I MEAN, ARE MUCH MORE TOLERATING OF, OF A MEETING WITH, WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS, DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE HANGUPS THAT, UH, THAT OLDER PEOPLE HAVE BECAUSE THEY GREW UP IN, IN SEPARATE SOCIETIES AT AT LEAST I DID. 
          MY, MY, UH, GRANDPARENTS ON MY MOM'S SIDE CAME FROM . 
          MY DADS CAME FROM RUSSIA. 
          AND WHEN THEY CAME TO THIS COUNTRY, THEY HAD, THEY LIVED IN AN ALL WHITE JEWISH NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY REALLY WOULD HAVE TROUBLE BEING ACCEPTED IN, IN OTHER AREAS. 
          NOW, THANK YOU MUCH, DENNIS. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I JUST WANT, I HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK WITH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE. 
          NO, THANK YOU. 
          I PROMISE YOU I'LL COME BACK. 
          BUT I KNOW THAT, UH, WE HAD, WE HAVE ELLEN HENDRICKS WHO HAD A QUESTION OR COMMENT. 
          HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I THINK I'M MUTED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAROL, ALAN ASKED, SHE SAID SHE'D BE INTERESTED, UM, IF ANY OF TONIGHT'S PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE NOT PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE BEEN PULLED OVER WITH WEAPONS DRAWN. 
          SO, UM, UM, COUNCILMAN JONES KNOWS THIS STORY BECAUSE IT, IT GAVE ME PAUSE MANY YEARS LATER WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 
          UM, I WAS A COLLEGE STUDENT. 
          UM, MY FATHER HAD, UM, HAD GOTTEN SICK. 
          I, I WAS LIVING, HE, THEY WERE LIVING IN MANHATTAN. 
          AND, UM, MY, MY MOTHER WAS AWAY IN BUSINESS. 
          I TOOK MY FATHER TO THE HOSPITAL, AND IT WAS AT A TIME WHEN BELLBOTTOMS WERE THE THING. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, MY HAIR WAS WILD, AS YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE THAT. 
          AND, UM, AND I WAS JUST STANDING THERE WHILE MY FATHER WAS BEING EXAMINED IN THE, IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. 
          AND A POLICE OFFICER CAME UP TO ME AND HE SAID, UH, I'M TOLD YOU HAVE A GUN IN THE LEG OF YOUR PANTS. 
          AND HE HAD HIS HAND ON HIS HOLSTER. 
          AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. 
          AND HE'S, HE'S JUST, IT'S A, COME ON. 
          SO I, I MADE A JOKE AND I SAID, YEAH, YEAH, SURE. 
          I ALWAYS KEEP A, UM, A GUN TUCK TUCKED IN MY SOCK. 
          AND HE PUSHED ME UP AGAINST THE WALL AND REACHED FOR HIS HIP. 
          AND ANOTHER COP CAME OVER AND SAID, WHOA, WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT? WELL, APPARENTLY THE, THE COP THAT HAD HAD ME UP AGAINST THE WALL WAS, UM, HAD MISHEARD INFORMATION ABOUT SOMEONE WHO WAS BROUGHT IN, WHO'D BEEN SHOT BY A WOMAN WHO HAD HAD A GUN TUCKED IN HER, THE WAISTBAND OF HER PANTS. 
          BUT, UM, NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WAS ALREADY A BIT UPSET. 
          AND THAT WAS NOT, UM, THAT WAS NOT A GREAT EXPERIENCE, BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT HAD I NOT BEEN WHITE, WOULD THAT SECOND COP HAVE COME OVER TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND WOULD HE HAVE INTERVENED? SO, YOU KNOW THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT A LOT, AND I, AND I THINK PROBABLY NOT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO ELLEN, IT IS SO FUNNY 'CAUSE YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSIONS BEFORE ON HOW DO WE EDUCATE? HOW DO WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION? AND IT'S STORIES LIKE YOURS ARE THE STORIES THAT WE NEED TO HEAR, NOT THAT PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME, AND THAT PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE YOU TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SERIOUS ISSUE HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND, AND KNOW, AND SEE, YOUR STORY JUST SHOWS TO ME THAT NO ONE'S DISCRIMINATED AGAINST YOU. 
          UNDERSTAND? BECAUSE NO, I, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT? LIKE, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE. 
          SO, SO NOW WE GET INTO POLICE OFFICERS AND, AND MAKE, AND, AND HOW WOULD PLEASE JUMP IN? HOW, WHY WOULD, WHY WOULD WE JUST MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THIS WOMAN WAS THE ONE THAT HAD A GUN STUCK IN HER, HER, HER, HER WAISTBAND. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, IMAGINE IF ELLEN WASN'T WHITE. 
          IF, IF IT WAS A BLACK WOMAN WHO THEY SAID JUST SHOT OBJE, UH, A PERSON AND HER GUN IS IN HER WAISTBAND, WOULD IT, WOULD THE, WOULD THE STORY OR THE SCENARIO WOULD'VE BEEN TOTALLY DIFFERENT? SEE, THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN INCIDENTS LIKE THAT HAPPEN THAT WE HOLD OUR POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE. 
          NOW, UH, THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED TO YOU, ELLEN, ALL RIGHT? THAT OFFICER DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBABLE CAUSE TO TREAT YOU IN THE WAY THAT HE DID. 
          SO THAT RIGHT THERE GOES TOTALLY AGAINST HIS 
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TRAINING, ALL RIGHT? AND THE OTHER OFFICER WHO CAME IN AND INTERVENED, ALL RIGHT, DID THE RIGHT THING. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AND HOLD ALL OUR OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE IS THAT WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING, LIKE WE TELL THE GENERAL PUBLIC, YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU SAY SOMETHING AND YOU ACT. 
          AND OUR OFFICERS, WHEN THEY DO NOT ACT, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS THOSE OFFICERS THAT STOOD BY AND WATCHED THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROSECUTED JUST AS THEY WERE THE ONES KNEELING ON HIS NECK. 
          WHEN WE START DOING THAT, THEN WE START CHANGING THE SCENARIOS, AND THEN THE, THEN THESE OFFICERS SAY, HEY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, THIS BLUE, UH, WALL OF SILENCE, NO, THAT DOESN'T APPLY HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO JAIL FOR YOU. 
          RIGHT? AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PEOPLE, AND YES, EACH YOUNG PERSON MAY COME INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THEIR OWN BIAS, ALRIGHT? BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY START 'EM EARLY. 
          THEY HOOK 'EM UP WITH, WE CALL FTOS, THEY'RE FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS. 
          NOW, WE HEARD, UH, FROM, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, SERGEANT HALL, WHO IS THE, UM, IN CHARGE OF THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS DIVISION. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE SAYS THAT HE'S ENTRUSTED WITH EACH ONE OF THE NEW RECRUITS THAT COME INTO THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THEIR IN-HOUSE TRAINING, THEY ARE PUTTING TO HIS UNIT. 
          SO THEY ARE TAKEN DOWN TO MANHATTAN AVENUE AND ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, SO THEY DON'T HEAR IT FROM THE OFFICERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM. 
          YOU KNOW? YES, THEY MAY HAVE HEARD A TON OF STUFF OR ACTUALLY BEEN TRAINED BY THEIR PARENTS, YOU KNOW, SINCE DAY ONE, THAT THIS IS THE WAY THOSE PEOPLE ARE AND THIS IS THE WAY YOU MUST DO THAT. 
          BUT THEN WE THEN HAVE TO RETRAIN THEM. 
          AND GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IS DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN, UH, TRAINING THEM. 
          I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MEAN TO BLOW THEIR WHISTLE. 
          YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THINK THAT THEY DO A GOOD JOB, BUT YES, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE, WHAT CAN THEY IMPROVE ON? MM-HMM. 
          , THEY ARE, YES. 
          DOING A GOOD JOB IN BRINGING IN OFFICERS. 
          THEY ARE TRAINING THEM ALL, RIGHT? BUT WHAT MORE CAN THEY DO? RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          UM, SO, UM, I HAVE A COMMITTEE MEMBER, BRIDGETTE BROWN, WHO WOULD LIKE TO, WHO HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT? I, BRIDGET, DID YOU, DID SHE, DID YOU LEAVE THE, UM, RACISM ISSUE? I GUESS I HAD TO JUST SAY SOMETHING. 
          MY KIDS DID GO TO, UM, VALHALLA AND THEY DID MIDDLE CLASS CHILDREN, AND THEY FACED A LOT OF, UH, PREJUDICE AND RACISM THERE. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S TRUE THAT INCOME HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT I THINK IT'LL, YOU KNOW, UM, SYSTEMATIC RACISM COVERS SO MUCH, UM, THAT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, I GUESS, UM, TO SAY THAT BE IF YOU'RE A MIDDLE CLASS, UM, PERSON OF COLOR, THAT THAT EXEMPTS YOU FROM THE SYSTEMATIC RACISM THAT HAPPENS WITH INTERACTIONS WITH POLICE. 
          MY, I HAVE A NEPHEW WHO ALSO WENT TO VALHALLA, WHO HAD A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH MOUNT PLEASANT. 
          HE DROVE, YOU KNOW, A HIGH-END CAR, UM, AND PULLED OVER. 
          I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF TIMES. 
          UM, WE GOT TO KNOW THE POLICE, WHICH MADE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER. 
          'CAUSE WE FELT LIKE IF WE DID THAT, THAT INTERVENTION WITH HIM. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, THAT ADVOCATES COMMUNITY POLICING. 
          RIGHT, EXACTLY. 
          AND I'M A PROBATION OFFICER. 
          I, I, YOU KNOW, WAS ABLE TO INTRODUCE HIM TO PEOPLE WHO I KNEW THERE, SO THAT IF THERE WERE INCIDENTS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HE ALSO PLAYED SPORTS. 
          UM, SO THEN HE DID, YOU KNOW, WAS ABLE TO REALLY INTEGRATE WITHIN THE BAHALA COMMUNITY, UH, WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, DARE OFFICERS. 
          AND SO IT DOES, UM, TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY POLICING AND INVOLVEMENT, UM, ON BOTH SIDES ON FAMILY, COMMUNITY, AND THE POLICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, BRIDGET. 
          UM, ANNE, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOUR, IF YOU CAN HIT YOUR SPACE BAR THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOUR, YOUR MICROPHONE. 
          I 
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JUST HAVE TO GO OVER UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER AND TOUCH UNMUTE. 
          I, UH, I, I WASN'T SURE YOU COULD SEE ME 'CAUSE I'M CONFUSED ABOUT, I WAS IN MY HEAD. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M LIKE, UM, YEAH, I, I, I, I FIXED IT SO I CAN SEE EVERYBODY EXCEPT WHEN I WANNA LOOK AT THE CHAT, AND THEN I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SCREEN. 
          SO I'M BACK. 
          AND FORTHING, I, UH, I WANNA RESPOND TO CAROL'S QUESTION. 
          UM, I'M MARRIED TO A, I, I DON'T, LIKE, I AM NOT WHITE. 
          I'M PINK. 
          BUT ANYWAY, I AM MARRIED TO ANOTHER EURO-AMERICAN PERSON WHO IS ALSO PARTLY JEWISH. 
          UH, UM, BIOLOGICALLY. 
          UM, I HAD TWO PARENTS WHO WERE EURO-AMERICAN AND A SISTER AND A COUPLE OF BROTHER-IN-LAWS. 
          SHE, ONE OF 'EM DIED. 
          UM, I LIVED IN A HOUSE WITH TWO OTHER WOMEN, UH, EURO-AMERICAN, AND ONE AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN AND HER CHILDREN, THEIR CHILDREN. 
          AND, UH, IN GREENBURG FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. 
          UM, NOBODY HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT BEING PULLED OVER TO THE CURB BY A POLICE OFFICER WITH A GUN. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD'VE HEARD IT, NOT ONE PERSON. 
          AND I JUST HAVE TO CALM MYSELF DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM,  THE, UM, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN'S GIRLS, UM, HAD SOME PROBLEMS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          UM, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT EXACTLY, I THINK FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF ANOTHER BLACK MOTHER WHO LIVED IN OUR HOUSE FOR A WHILE, THAT, UM, THE KIDS IN OUR TOWN DON'T DO WELL AT ACCEPTING KIDS THAT THEY DIDN'T GROW UP WITH. 
          SO THE FIRST TWO MOVED IN FROM THE BRONX, THEY WERE THERE FOR A WHILE. 
          THE OTHER ONE'S MOTHER COMES FROM MALI. 
          AND APPARENTLY THAT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT, UM, UH, CALL IT, IS IT RACIST, ETHNIC, WHATEVER THEY, YOU KNOW, SHE WENT TO THE SCHOOL WITH THE, SHE HAD BEEN TOLD TO BRING, UM, SOME JUICE FOR THE BIG PARTY THEY WERE HAVING, AND HER LITTLE DAUGHTER WANTED IT'S THIRD GRADE, SECOND GRADE OVER AT, UH, WHAT'S THE ONE THEY'VE CLOSED ON CENTRAL AVENUE? UM, WEBB. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, YEAH. 
          WHATEVER. 
          THE, THE SECOND AND THIRD, FIRST AND SECOND GRADE, UM, HER LITTLE DAUGHTER WANTED TO MAKE COOKIES. 
          SO THEY, SHE WENT AND BOUGHT A STICK OF THOSE, CUT AND SLICE AND BAKE AND TOOK THEM IN. 
          AND THE, UM, EVERYBODY ELSE MOSTLY WAS BLACK, THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE KITCHEN. 
          AND THEY TOOK HER LITTLE PLATE OF COOKIES AND PUT IT IN THE CORNER AND NEVER SERVED IT. 
          OH. 
          AND WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT? YOU KNOW, SO IT, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING IT GOES A LOT OF WAYS, BUT I DO WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE SAID EARLIER, WHEN I, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE PULLED OVER, AND MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN PEOPLE OF COLOR. 
          AND SOMETIMES WHEN I FEEL SAFE, I WILL GO OVER AND SAY, I WILL JUST STAND THERE AND JUST BE THERE, BECAUSE, UM, BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T FEEL SAFE. 
          I MEAN, I, I PRAY FOR THEM, BUT, UM, NO, I THINK IT'S AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM. 
          I THINK THERE'S , UM, RIGHT. 
          IN OUR OWN, WELL, I, I WORKED IN THE BRONX FOR A LONG TIME, UM, AS A NURSE PRACTITIONER. 
          SO, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE BRONX. 
          UM, I, I'VE WATCHED KIDS IN SCHOOL COME IN AND WATCH THE WHITE KIDS SIT WITH THE WHITE KIDS AND THE JEWISH KIDS SIT WITH THE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT QUOTE WHITE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THE BLACK KIDS SIT WITH THE BLACK KIDS. 
          AND I'VE QUESTIONED THAT. 
          AND THEN I WENT TO MY COLLEGE FOR REUNION AND I SAW THE SAME THING. 
          AND I WENT UP TO SOME OF THE YOUNG AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN, OR BLACK CHIL YOUNG PE YOUNG PEOPLE, AND I SAID, TALK TO ME. 
          IS IT COMFORTABLE IN THIS COMMUNITY TO BE WITH PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME? AND THEY SAID, YEAH, BUT SOMETIMES WE NEED TO JUST GET TOGETHER AND BE WITH EACH OTHER TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN A, IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS MORE WHITE THAN, THAN OUR COLOR. 
          OR I HATE THOSE COLOR NAMES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, SO, SO I, I JUST THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS RECOGNIZING THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET TOGETHER. 
          THEY GO SIT WITH PEOPLE, THEY RECOGNIZE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE THEM, PEOPLE THAT MAKE THEM COMFORTABLE. 
          OTHER TIMES, I THINK SOME OF US TRY TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT'S, UM, THAT'S MORE INTEGRATED, UH, IN, IN OUR LIVES, AS WELL AS, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, WHO LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE OTHER THING ABOUT POLICE, 'CAUSE I, I'M TALKING NOW, BUT I DON'T WANNA TALK AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          I WATCHED THAT GUY ON GEORGE FLOYD'S NECK, AND THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT COULD MAKE SOMEBODY DO THAT. 
          AND ONE IS INCREDIBLE RACISM, 
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AND THE OTHER IS JUST PLAIN HATRED. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST RACISM ON STEROIDS. 
          HE HAD TO JUST HATE, HATE AND, AND HE KNEW HIM. 
          I MEAN, HE KNEW HIM. 
          THEY'D HAD EXPERIENCES TOGETHER. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THAT. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO, HOW CAN WE CRE MAKE KINDER COMMUNITIES? AND I THINK THAT HAS TO GO BEYOND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT RISES. 
          AND OUR COMMUNITY IS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, A LOT GENTLER THAN SO MANY. 
          UM, ONE OTHER LITTLE THING WHEN I DIDN'T, I HADN'T HAD DIRECT EXPERIENCES OF MYSELF BEING OFFENDED OR PUT OFF OR BECAUSE OF WHAT I LOOKED LIKE AS FAR AS I COULD TELL. 
          BUT I WENT IN WITH CUMBA, THE YOUNG WOMAN FROM FROM MOLLY TO THE DRUGSTORE THAT USED TO BE ON THE CORNER OF, UH, AT FOUR CORNERS. 
          AND I BOUGHT MY STUFF AND THE CLERK PUT IT IN A BAG, AND I WALKED OVER AND WAITED FOR KUMBA, AND SHE BOUGHT HER STUFF AND PAID FOR IT, AND THE CLERK PUT IT IN A BAG AND STAPLED IT. 
          AND SHE SAID, KUMBA CAME OVER TO ME AND SHE SAID, WRITE OUT LOUD. 
          DID YOU SEE THAT? I SAID, YES, I DID. 
          AND WE WON'T COME BACK TO THIS STORE, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, THOSE, I, IF YOU NOT, IF YOU'RE NOT BROWN OR BLACK, YOU DON'T SEE THAT IN YOUR REAL LIFE. 
          AND, AND HOW DO WE HELP OTHER PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME TO TO HAVE EX, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I'M LUCKY I LIVED IN AN INTERRACIAL LIFE, BUT, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, YOU DON'T LOVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE YOU, THEN IT'S MUCH HARDER. 
          I GOTTA SHUT UP. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR THE REST OF THE EVENING. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          BUT ANN, BUT ANN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT WHAT YOU SAID, BECAUSE IT, IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO NOT ONLY HEAR FROM ME OR FROM HOWARD, IT ALLOWS SOMEONE TO HAVE ACTUALLY WITNESSED IT TO SAY, THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND, AND THIS IS WHY THEY'RE UPSET. 
          THIS IS, AND I SAY THEY, BUT THIS IS WHY PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE UPSET. 
          THIS IS WHY PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE HURT BECAUSE WE WORK JUST AS, JUST AS HARD OR, AND JUST AS EQUAL AS OUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. 
          AND, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE EQUAL RIGHTS THAT WE DESERVE. 
          BUT I WANNA, I WANNA, I WANNA KIND OF BRING THE CONVERSATION BACK TO GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          SO, I'M SORRY, HOWARD, BEFORE I BRING IT, DID YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING BEFORE? BECAUSE I KNOW SETH HAS A COMMENT. 
          DID YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING BEFORE WE BRING ON SETH? YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND THE THINGS THAT ANNE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE GEORGE FLOYD, UH, SITUATION, THERE WAS AN OFFICER THERE THAT WAS OUTTA CONTROL. 
          THAT WASN'T THE FIRST TIME. 
          ALL RIGHT? THERE HAD TO BE SOMETHING LEADING UP TO THAT. 
          NO ONE JUST AUTOMATICALLY DOES THAT RIGHT OFF AT, UH, FROM THE BEGINNING FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          HE HAD TO FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH THAT HE COULD DO THAT AND GET AWAY WITH IT. 
          THAT'S WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COMMUNITY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEING INCLUSIVE AND BEING TOGETHER. 
          WE NEED TO GO OUT. 
          WHEN AND WHEN YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. 
          MAJORITY OF US DON'T SAY ANYTHING, BUT WE SEE A NUMBER OF THINGS. 
          THEY DON'T REPORT IT. 
          IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU REPORT IT, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE AN OFFICER WHO WAS ON HIS WAY TO BEING OUTTA CONTROL. 
          THAT COULD BE AN OFFICER WHO NEEDS SOME HELP. 
          WE JUST HAD A 25 YEAR OLD POLICE OFFICER UP IN BEDFORD WHO TOOK HIS OWN LIFE. 
          THIS IS A YOUNG MAN, 25 YEARS OLD. 
          THERE HAD TO BE INCIDENTS LEADING UP TO THAT. 
          PEOPLE SAW THAT, OR SHOULD HAVE SEEN THAT THERE WAS THINGS GOING OUT OF CONTROL WITH THIS YOUNG MAN. 
          THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPORTED. 
          THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOME MECHANISM TO SAVE THIS YOUNG MAN. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE, IS THAT YOU REPORT SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A POLICE OFFICER WHO IS ON HIS WAY TO BEING, OR TO LEADING, TO BEING OUTTA CONTROL, COULD BE IN HIS, HIS LIFE, OR THINGS ARE JUST GOING WRONG. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE HAVE PUT IT, THERE IS MECHANISM IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE OFFICERS, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO REPORT INCIDENTS, AND IT WILL HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE WHEN THEY DON'T, IF THEY, WE FIND OUT THAT THEY DID, THEY SAW IT AND THEY DIDN'T REPORT IT. 
          BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COMMUNITY TO REPORT THOSE INCIDENTS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UH, LES JOHNSON IS NEXT. 
          HE HAD A QUESTION. 
          DO WE DO LES SETH AND THEN DENNIS. 
          OKAY. 
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THANK YOU, GINA. 
          YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          I, I SOMETIMES THINK, UH, THAT THE PROBLEM THAT EXISTS COULD BE PROCEDURAL OR THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT. 
          UH, BEFORE RETIRING, I DID A CONSULTING ASSIGNMENT FOR T S A SOME YEARS AGO AND LOOKED AT A PROGRAM THEY HAD IN PLACE CALLED SPOT SS B O T, WHICH MEANT SCREENING PASSENGERS BY OBSERVATION TECHNIQUES. 
          AND THIS PROGRAM WAS DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED TO DETECT INDIVIDUALS, UH, WHO EXHIBITED BEHAVIOR INDICATING THAT THEY MAY BE A THREAT, WHATEVER MAY BE A THREAT ACTUALLY MEANS. 
          AND EVERYONE, AND I, I REALIZE THAT T S A IS NOT GREENBURG POLICE, VERY, VERY DIFFERENT, UH, KIND OF APPROACH. 
          BUT, UH, WITH PROGRAMS LIKE THAT IN PLACE, UH, AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, DOES GREENBURG HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE LIKE THAT? UM, AS, UH, BISHOP PRESTON WAS SAYING, GOSH, UH, THEY JUST KIND OF PULLED ME OVER AND PROBABLY BASED ON WHAT THEY PERCEIVED OR WHAT THEY SAW. 
          SO QUITE OFTEN THAT DRIVES, UM, BEHAVIOR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THESE EXISTING PROGRAMS ARE IN PLACE THAT PERHAPS NEED TO BE REVISED, DISMANTLE. 
          UH, AND I, I GIVE THE QUESTION TO HOWARD OR ANYONE WHO, UH, WOULD FEEL FREE TO, UH, ADDRESS IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A, THE SCREENING PROGRAM. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, COULD ASK THE CHIEF ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UH, AND IF I COULD JUMP IN HERE AND, AND, UH, AND, AND MR. JOHNSON, I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT YOUR PROGRAMS HELP, BUT I'M, I'M A 71 YEAR OLD MAN. 
          I KNOW I DON'T LOOK LIKE IT, BUT I'M 71 . 
          I HAVE NEVER KNOWN ONE PROGRAM TO CHANGE ANYBODY. 
          NOT ONE. 
          AND I DID MENTAL HEALTH. 
          I TOOK PSYCHOLOGY. 
          I'VE BEEN PASTORING FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR, UH, 42 YEARS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW ONE PROGRAM THAT CHANGED ANYBODY. 
          WHAT CHANGED PEOPLE IS ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND IF THEY ARE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY LEARNED IN THE PROGRAM MM-HMM. 
          , THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE. 
          AND, AND THIS IS WHERE OUR PROBLEM IS. 
          AND, AND I LIKE WHAT, UH, MS. WRIGHT, UH, IF I CAN CALL HER, MS. WRIGHT WAS SAYING, MM-HMM. 
          , THERE IS NOT ENOUGH COMING TO THE RESCUE. 
          LET, LET ME, LET, LET ME, UH, EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS. 
          WHAT WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , MOST OF US REMEMBER WHEN, WHEN THE YOUNG MAN WENT INTO THE JEWISH SYNAGOGUE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND SHOCK KILLED ALL THE PEOPLE, MY FIRST REACTION WAS CALL RABBI PALE AND SET UP A PRAYER VIGIL AT THE JEWISH SCHOOL. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M MENTOR ALL THESE VISUALS NOW WITH HIM AND, AND THE ALUMNI AND THE STUDENT BODY THERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I WENT TO THE RESCUE. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH BLACK PEOPLE IS WE DON'T HAVE WHITE PEOPLE TO COME TO OUR RESCUE WHEN THEY KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. 
          THEY, THEY STAND ON THE SIDELINES. 
          THEY DON'T COME TO COURT. 
          WHEN I, WHEN I WAS IN, IN VIRGINIA, I WAS, I WAS A COURT ASSESSOR FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE. 
          I SIT IN THE COURT WITH A BLACK 19 YEAR OLD, UH, KID, MALE AND A WHITE 19 YEAR OLD FEMALE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , BOTH CHARGED WITH DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE AND RESISTING ARREST. 
          ON THE SAME DAY. 
          JUDGE WARREN HOWARD WARREN IN MARTINSVILLE, VIRGINIA, GAVE THE BLACK MAN THREE YEAR ACTIVE SENTENCE, GAVE THE WHITE GIRL THREE MONTHS SUSPENDED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND I STOOD UP AND I TOLD THE JUDGE, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU DID THAT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT THE JUDGE RESPONSE WAS. 
          AND MIND YOU, I PLAYED GOLF WITH THIS GUY. 
          HE TOLD ME TO SET MY A DOWN, YOU HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH CONTEMPT OF COURT OF $75 AND THE COST OF COURT OF 50 BUCKS. 
          THAT WAS THE JUSTICE I GOT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HOLD. 
          I THOUGHT HOLD, I THOUGHT, UH, BISHOP PRESTON, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE EVERYONE WHO WAS WAITING THEIR TIME. 
          UH, SETH, YOU WERE NEXT. 
          YOU CAN UNMUTE. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU, GINA. 
          I, I HAVE AN ANECDOTE TO TELL. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY WIFE AND I OBSERVED HERE A FEW YEARS AGO IN, IN GREENBURG WITH THE POLICE. 
          AND THEN ALSO A, A QUESTION ABOUT POLICY. 
          BUT, BUT THE ANECDOTE WAS ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, A NEIGHBOR OF OURS WAS OUT OF TOWN. 
          AND 
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I WAS WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND NOTICED THAT HIS FRONT DOOR WAS OPEN. 
          SO, UH, I CALLED THE GREENBERG POLICE TO INVESTIGATE. 
          'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY HAD BROKEN IN OR IF SOMEBODY MIGHT ACTUALLY BE IN THE HOUSE ROBBING IT AT THAT MOMENT. 
          AND THE POLICE CAME AND, UH, WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          THE POLICE WENT IN AND INVESTIGATED. 
          WE TRIED TO REACH THE HOMEOWNER BY PHONE, UH, BUT COULDN'T DO IT AT THAT MOMENT. 
          AND WHILE A A, A FEW OF US WERE STANDING AROUND WATCHING ALL OF THIS HAPPEN, THERE WAS A BLACK YOUTH ABOUT A HALF BLOCK DOWN ALSO WATCHING IT. 
          AND, UM, MY GUESS IS THIS IS A BLACK YOUTH THAT WAS KNOWN TO THE POLICE FOR SOME MAYBE PAST PROBLEMS HE HAD HAD. 
          BUT THE POLICE WENT UP TO APPROACH HIM, TO ASK HIM ABOUT MAYBE THERE WERE SUSPECTING THAT HE COULD HAVE BEEN SOMEONE WHO HAD BURGLED THE HOME. 
          AND I, AND I THINK HE MUST HAVE, UH, NOT BEEN A HUNDRED PERCENT COOPERATIVE. 
          HE MUST HAVE GIVEN A LITTLE BIT OF LIP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT ANSWERING THEIR QUESTIONS. 
          BUT THE TWO OFFICERS, I IMMEDIATELY GOT HIM DOWN ON THE GROUND, FACE DOWN, HANDCUFFED HIM BEHIND HIS BACK. 
          AND IN A WAY THAT SEEMED UNDULY ROUGH TO ME, AND, UH, WASN'T REALLY JUSTIFIED BY, THEY WERE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION. 
          NOBODY WAS BEING THREATENED OR ANYTHING. 
          NOBODY HAD BEEN ACCUSED OF DOING ANYTHING. 
          AND AS IT TURNED OUT, THE NEIGHBOR HAD JUST LEFT THAT DOOR OPEN BY ACCIDENT. 
          NOBODY HAD BROKEN IN, AND THEN THEY TOOK HIM DOWN TO THE STATION AND RELEASED HIM LATER. 
          BUT I FOUND MYSELF WONDERING AT THE TIME, IF THIS, IF THIS YOUTH HAD BEEN WHITE, WHETHER THE SAME THING WOULD'VE HAPPENED TO HIM. 
          AND I ALSO WONDERED WHAT THE POLICIES ARE ABOUT WHEN YOU CAN USE THAT KIND OF FORCE WITH SOMEBODY WHEN JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE, WHAT WOULD JUSTIFY THAT USE OF FORCE? SO MM-HMM. 
          , THOSE ARE TWO QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO MY MIND AT THAT TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT, UH, I KNOW IN THE PAST CONVERSATION WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY POLICING AND THAT WE USED TO HAVE MORE OF A CLEAN COMMUNITY POLICING PROGRAM IN THE PAST THAN WE DO NOW. 
          AND SOMEONE HAD ASKED THE CHIEF ABOUT THIS, AND THE CHIEF JUST SAID, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER REALLY TO DO THAT ANYMORE. 
          BUT I, I JUST QUESTION, WE DO, WE OBVIOUSLY, WE DO HAVE THE MANPOWER TO HAVE A SWAT TEAM IN TOWN, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY ALSO HAS A SWAT TEAM. 
          I'M, I'M WONDERING IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PRIORITIES ARE RIGHT. 
          WHY, WHY ARE WE, WHY ARE WE STILL GEARED UP TO HAVE THIS MILITARIZED RESPONSE TO THINGS WHICH IS PROBABLY VERY RARELY USED? AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY POLICING THAT, THAT MIGHT MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S A QUESTION. 
          SO THANK YOU, GINA. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          SO IF, IF I COULD, SETH, UM, UH, A QUESTION TO YOU, UH, WAS THERE A FOLLOW UP ON YOUR PART, UH, FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? UH, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF FOLLOW UP HOWARD DID? DID YOU GO AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED SINCE YOU WERE THE CALLER? YOU ARE ENTITLED TO A COPY OF THE REPORT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT YOUNG MAN. 
          YEAH, I, I MEAN, I REMEMBER HEARING THAT THE YOUNG MAN WAS RELEASED HOME LATER THAT DAY, AND THERE WEREN'T ANY CHARGES PRESSED, I DON'T THINK. 
          BUT, SO THERE WAS NO CHARGES. 
          I PERSONALLY DID NOT FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          NO. 
          SO YOU DID NOT FOLLOW UP. 
          THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IF THAT HAD BEEN A YOUNG WHITE, UH, YOUNG MAN, WOULD YOU HAVE FOLLOWED UP? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN ANY DIFFERENT. 
          I DON'T THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT SEE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU AS A CITIZEN IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, IF YOU MAKE A REPORT, ALRIGHT, THERE HAS TO BE DOCUMENTATION WITH THAT REPORT. 
          YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THE DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE YOU WERE CONCERNED. 
          AND THAT CONCERNS YOU ENOUGH TO, HEY, WHY DID THEY TREAT THAT YOUNG MAN LIKE THAT? NOW, THIS IS YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU PAY TO PROTECT YOURSELF AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY. 
          YOU SHOULD WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHY THEY ARE DOING IT. 
          AND WHEN YOU CALL, THEN THERE SHOULD BE FOLLOW UP FROM YOU. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT YOUNG MAN AND WHY HE WAS, UH, TREATED THAT WAY. 
          NOW, THERE ARE REASONS WHY POLICE OFFICERS PUT PEOPLE IN HANDCUFFS, ALL RIGHT. 
          FOR THEIR SAFETY, THE PERSON'S SAFETY OR THE OFFICER'S SAFETY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEVER KNOW WHY, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE DO FOLLOW UP. 
          WE HAVE TO BE, WE HAVE TO BE MORE ENGAGED IN THAT. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          HOWARD. 
          HOWARD. 
          SOMEHOW, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SITTING BACK AND I'M LISTENING TO THE STORIES, TO YOUR POINT, THIS IS WHEN WE NEED A WHITE ALLIES TO EXTEND, TO STAND UP AND SAY, THAT IS WRONG. 
          EXACTLY WHAT BISHOP PRESTON SAID. 
          YES, THAT IS WRONG. 
          THIS IS WHEN WE NEED YOU TO STAND UP AND SAY, SETH, YOU SAID, I JUST SAW HOWARD TRIBBLE BEING ARRESTED. 
          WE DIDN'T SEE HIM DOING. 
          THERE WAS NO WRONGDOING. 
          WHAT WAS THE STATUS OF HIS ARREST? OR WHY WAS HE ARRESTED? OR WHY WAS HE BEING, UH, WITHHELD OR HELD IF I SAID THAT THE RIGHT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS WHEN WE 
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HEAR THAT, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED. 
          I WAS AFRAID. 
          IF YOU ARE AFRAID TO, IF YOU ARE AFRAID TO WALK UP WHILE THE INCIDENT IS OCCURRING, THEN I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT YOU MAKE A PHONE CALL. 
          THE ONE GREAT THING ABOUT, AND YOU KNOW, I I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR CHIEF AND, AND WHAT HE HAS DONE, WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THE TOWN, UM, HE HAS AN OPEN DOOR. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, CHIEF, I WAS RIDING ON ROUTE ONE 19 AND I SAW, I SAW A POLICE OFFICER HARASSING ANOTHER OFFICER. 
          AND I WAS CONCERNED, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR. 
          THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HE NEEDS TO BE MADE AWARE OF, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE TO ADDRESS. 
          AND THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AS WE KEEP SAYING, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING MOST IMPORTANT. 
          UM, HOWARD DID, DID I, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? OR, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE MORE QUESTION, BUT, BUT, BUT QUICKLY, YES. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, IT, IT SHOULD BE ON EVERYBODY'S MIND THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I LIVE IN PARKWAY HOMES, I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHEN THE WEATHER'S NICE, THERE'S THREE OF US STANDING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. 
          YOU CAN'T DRIVE UP AND DOWN THIS STREET UNLESS ONE OF US KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CAR'S GOING THROUGH HERE. 
          AND PRETTY MUCH IS THE DEAD END AT THE END. 
          WHY ARE YOU GOING THROUGH HERE? IF YOU'RE COMING BY TWO OR THREE TIMES, WE'RE STOPPING THE CAR TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A PROBLEM? ARE YOU LOST? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? AND THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE, IS GONNA HELP MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING OR THOSE HAIRS ON THE BACK OF OUR NECK STAND UP AND WE SEE THE POLICE. 
          THEY COULD BE TOTALLY, THEY COULD BE DOING EVERYTHING. 
          TOTALLY CORRECT. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON IT, THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE A CALL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO AND SO STRESS THE POINT, HOWARD, THAT THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY. 
          CORRECT? THIS IS, THIS IS OUR HOME. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LIVE THE WAY WE WANT TO LIVE. 
          AND WE HAVE A VOICE IN THAT. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AGAIN, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SPEAK UP. 
          THE CHIEF HAS AN OPEN DOOR, AND IF THE CHIEF DOESN'T HAVE AN OPEN DOOR, COME, COME TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          YOU HAVE THREE OF 'EM ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW. 
          IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, SEND AN EMAIL TO TO TOWN BOARD@GREENBERGNY.COM AND SAID, I OBSERVE X, Y, AND Z. 
          WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS IMPORTANT. 
          THIS IS WHY EVERYONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE HIGH TAXES. 
          BUT THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT OUR MONEY'S WELL MOUTH. 
          BUT WE, WE DESERVE THAT. 
          WE DESERVE THAT. 
          WE DESERVE TO HAVE WHAT WE PAY FOR. 
          WE PRIDE OURSELVES HERE IN GREENBERG ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR RESIDENTS. 
          AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE ALSO INCLUDES BEING SAFE, OKAY. 
          BEING TRADED EQUALLY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU HEAR ME REPEATING MYSELF. 
          BUT I, I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, THAT I DRIVE THAT POINT HOME THAT THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          THIS IS WHY YOU ELECTED YOUR OFFICIALS. 
          THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A POLICE CHIEF. 
          THIS IS WHY HE HAS LIEUTENANTS AND SERGEANT IN HIS RANK AND FILE. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO SIT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HEARD. 
          HEARD. 
          UM, ELLEN HENDRICKS HAD HER HAND UP. 
          I'M GONNA PASS IT ON TO ELLEN IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. 
          I DID. 
          HELLO. 
          UM, SO TEIS ELLA, WHO IS THE, UH, HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSIONER FOR THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER, HAS BEEN RUNNING A SERIES OF PROGRAMS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE WAS ON LAST WEEK, BUT IT WAS ABOUT HOW YOU RESPOND WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE AFRAID. 
          THEY'RE AFRAID BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GET HURT. 
          THEY'RE, OR THEY'RE NOT AFRAID. 
          THEY JUST SAY, IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS. 
          SO YOU MENTIONED TWO OF THE INTERVENTION TECHNIQUES. 
          UM, ONE, WELL, NO, YOU MENTIONED ONE, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER THAT'S OBVIOUS. 
          ONE IS MAKING THAT CALL TO A, TO SOMEONE WHO IS SENIOR. 
          AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS A POLICE OFFICER IN CALLING THE POLICE, OR AS YOU SAID, GINA, REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL PEOPLE. 
          UM, ANOTHER JUSTICE WITH GEORGE FLOYD, WHICH STARTED THIS WHOLE AWAKENING FOR PEOPLE, IS PULLING OUT YOUR CAMERA. 
          YOU KNOW, PRETEND YOU'RE DON'T, DON'T BE OBVIOUS WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR PHONE, YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT AN EMAIL AND VIDEO. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, OTHER INTERVENTION. 
          BUT OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AS EASILY DONE. 
          IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A POLICE OFFICER 
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WHO SEEMS TO BE BEHAVING IN A WAY THAT IS NOT CORRECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DIVERT, UM, ASK, MAYBE ASK DIRECTIONS, CHANGE THAT TOPIC. 
          IF IT'S A POLICE OFFICER, SOMEONE ELSE, OR, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF PUTTING YOURSELVES, AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HARMED IN A PHYSICAL, UH, PROXIMITY. 
          LIKE IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF INTERVENTION THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IS GOING TO BE SAFE FOR YOURSELF. 
          BUT THERE, THE, THE SAFER THINGS TO DO WOULD BE TO CALL SOME, A SUPERIOR OR TO, TO VIDEO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS THE, THE CHAT THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          UM, SO ONE OF OUR, ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAS A QUESTION ABOUT, HE, HE RAISED A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 
          HE SAID, RICHARD, I'M NOT GONNA SAY. 
          SO DONNA WILLIAMS SAID, IS THERE AN APPETITE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A PROGRAM THAT ENCOURAGES THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE VIDEO POLICE SLASH COMMUNITY INTERACTIONS AND HAVE A DESIGNATED PLACE TO SEND THE VIDEO? ANYBODY DESIGNATE A PLACE TO SEND THE VIDEO? SO, YOU KNOW WHAT, ACTUALLY, HEY DONALD, DO YOU WANNA EXPAND ON THAT? OH, GO AHEAD. 
          IS HE STILL, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, BECAUSE, UH, JUST LIKE ELLEN JUST HIGHLIGHTED MM-HMM. 
          , WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE COMMITTEE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID DISCUSS WAS VIDEOTAPING POLICE CIVILIAN ENCOUNTERS. 
          BECAUSE IF THERE'S RUDENESS, DISRESPECT, PUSHING AND SHOVING, YOU KNOW, LOUD VOICES THAT, THAT AREN'T NECESSARY, THOSE THINGS CAN ALL BE CAPTURED. 
          SO WHEN THE OFFICER GETS BACK TO THE STATION AND SAY, OH, NOTHING EVER HAPPENED. 
          WELL, SOMEBODY IN SUPERVISION SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THESE VIDEOS AND SAYING, WHAT'S THIS ABOUT? YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE A UNIFORM SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE A VIDEO, SEND A VIDEO, AND BE FRANK, FREE FROM RETALIATION AND HARASSMENT FOR SENDING THE VIDEO. 
          BECAUSE POLICE CAN INTIMIDATE PEOPLE AND SAY, OH, YOU'RE INTERFERING WITH MY POLICE ACTION. 
          WELL, YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH MY RIGHTS. 
          SO LET'S SEE IF MY VIDEO, OR YOU, OR BODY CAMERA, IF YOU HAVE IT ON, CAPTURES WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AND THE ENTIRETY OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS HAVING TESTING IN ALL SORTS OF MANNERS OF HOW THE POLICE DO THEIR JOB. 
          BECAUSE THE SAME WAY THEY TEST HOUSING, THEY'LL SEND A BLACK COUPLE TO LOOK AT THE AD, ASK THE PEOPLE, IS THE APARTMENTS STILL AVAILABLE? AND THEN THEY SEND A WHITE TESTING, COUPLE MET AFTER, AFTER THEY TOLD THE PEOPLE IT'S NOT AVAILABLE. 
          AND THEN THEY SAY, OH YEAH, COME ON, WE GOT, WE GOT A NICE APARTMENT HERE. 
          WELL, THE POLICE SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO TESTING. 
          THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO VIDEOTAPE. 
          THEY SHOULD BE. 
          AND, AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE, IT'S EASY FOR THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO JUST DESIGNATE FORMS OR SOMETHING TO SEND THAT STUFF IN AND HAVE SOMEBODY REVIEW IT IMMEDIATELY AND ADDRESS IT IMMEDIATELY SO THAT WE KNOW UPFRONT. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU LET IT FESTER, IT'S A PROBLEM. 
          BUT IF YOU ADDRESS IT IMMEDIATELY, IT'S LESS OF A PROBLEM. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND, AND ALSO, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY, YOU KNOW, VIDEOTAPE, YOU KNOW, INCIDENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING OR REPORT THOSE INCIDENTS, YES. 
          IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO UP THERE AND THE TAPE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          OR THEY GONNA FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE RETALIATED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          IF YOU ARE STANDING BY, WE'RE NOT TELLING 'EM TO GO UP THERE, DO IT RESPECTFULLY, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE EVERYBODY HAS CAMERAS. 
          NOW, IF YOU ARE VIDEOTAPING IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO TAKE IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          YOU COULD TAKE IT TO BISHOP PRESTON. 
          YOU COULD TAKE IT TO ANDRE EARLY AT THE THEODORE DE YOUNG COMMUNITY 
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CENTER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          YOU CAN TAKE IT TO GINA JACKSON. 
          YOU HAVE THREE COUNCIL, UH, MEMBERS HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT IF YOU TAKE THAT VIDEO TO THEM, I RECORDED THIS. 
          YES. 
          I AM AFRAID TO TAKE IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MYSELF, BUT CAN YOU HELP ME ? THAT IS THEIR JOB. 
          REMEMBER? AND SHE SAID IT LOUD AND CLEAR. 
          THEY WORK FOR US. 
          THAT'S WHY WE PAY TAXES. 
          WE WANNA LIVE COMFORTABLY HERE IN GREENBURG. 
          WHEN YOU CLOSE YOUR DOORS AT NIGHT, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE TAXES AND THE MONEY THAT YOU SPENT IS WELL TAKEN CARE OF. 
          AND WE, THEY ARE EARNING THEIR PAY. 
          THAT MEANS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IT IS, IT IS THEIR JOB. 
          AND WE SHOULD HOLD THEM TO, YOU KNOW, A HIGH STANDARD. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AND GO THIS MILE ALONG. 
          YOU DO HAVE A NUMBER OF RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND WE'LL HELP YOU. 
          YOU CAN DO THE TAPING AT A DISTANCE. 
          ALL RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE TAPING. 
          YOU CAN WITNESS IT. 
          START COLLECTING INFORMATION. 
          AND I TELL YOUNG PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, IF YOU ARE BEING MISTREATED BY A POLICE OFFICER, THE FIRST THING THAT YOU NEED TO DO IS CLOSE YOUR MOUTH. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU ARE RUNNING YOUR MOUTH, YOU CAN'T TAKE IN INFORMATION, CLOSE YOUR MOUTH, OPEN YOUR EYES, AND YOUR EARS START TAKING A MENTAL PICTURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          WHO IS ADDRESSING YOU? EVERY OFFICER IN THIS, UH, TOWN OF GREENBURG, WEARS A BADGE AND A NAME TAG. 
          EVERY ONE OF THOSE POLICE OFFICER DRIVES A MARKED POLICE CAR WITH A NUMBER ON IT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          THAT RIGHT THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE. 
          AND YOU CAN PINPOINT THAT INCIDENT, AND THOSE INCIDENTS SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED. 
          THERE SHOULD BE DOCUMENTATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THOSE INCIDENTS. 
          AND IF THAT DOCUMENTATION IS NOT CORRECT, THERE'S A PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE FOLLOW UP. 
          AND WHEN WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, GUESS WHAT? WHEN WE START SEEING INCIDENTS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE NOW ALL THE INCIDENTS THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THESE, THAT THERE HAVE HAPPENED. 
          RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE JUST BEING TELEVISED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO THEY'RE NOW BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE BEING PROSECUTED MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT ONE POLICE OFFICER, ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT WANTS TO GO TO JAIL. 
          IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR MISDEEDS, PEOPLE START TO, PEOPLE TEND TO START WALKING, UH, STRAIGHT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. 
          HOLD ON. 
          HOLD ON. 
          PRESS. 
          I'M SORRY, BISHOP. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING IN THE ROOMS. THE ROOMS GIMME, OH, I'M A OLD MAN. 
          I FORGET QUICKLY. 
          GO AHEAD, . 
          OKAY. 
          WRITE IT DOWN. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WANDA SELLMAN, IF YOU COULD UNMUTE, PLEASE. 
          THAT'S WINSOME. 
          WINSOME. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WINSOME. 
          FORGIVE ME. 
          WINSOME. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, I'M MUTED. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE G P D AND PEOPLE WITH, UM, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. 
          AND I AM SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, NOT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE IT WASN'T ME, BUT I HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT BECAUSE THIS WAS MY RELATIVE, UM, NONVIOLENT, TOTALLY NONVIOLENT HAS NEVER RUN AFOUL THE POLICE BEFORE. 
          NEVER, EVER MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. 
          SO HE WOULD TAKE HIS WALKS AND I DON'T KNOW, IT APPEARS THAT PERHAPS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND I'LL SAY THE OLDER NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, I'M NOT YOUNG MYSELF, SO THIS IS NOT AN ASPERSION AGAINST OLDER PEOPLE, BUT SEEM TO CALL THE POLICE. 
          THE POLICE CONSTANTLY HARASSED HIM. 
          HE WAS ARRESTED, TAKEN UP TO VALHALLA, WHICH AT THAT TIME, THEY, UH, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE HEARD THIS, THE LOCKER AT VALHALLA WAS BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER RUN THE FALL OF THE LAW. 
          THIS PERSON HAS NEVER, EVER, AND, UM, THE CHARGE WAS JAYWALKING. 
          THE NEIGHBORS THOUGHT HE WAS JAYWALKING. 
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AND I SAID, I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE THIS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE HAD TO PAY BAIL. 
          I MEAN, EVEN SOME OF THE OFFICERS, THE CORRECTION OFFICERS, THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE IT BECAUSE THEY SAID, HONESTLY, WE CAN'T BELIEVE THIS. 
          WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME IN HERE, POSSESSION OF WEAPONS FROM SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN WESTCHESTER, AND THEY HAVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS BAIL AGAIN. 
          IT HAPPENED, I MEAN, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, IT HAPPENED. 
          I MEAN, ONE TIME HE PICKED UP A NEWSPAPER, THE FREE NEWSPAPER AT, UM, WEEKLY, UM, THEY DELIVER WEEKLY, PICKED IT UP, I GUESS IT WAS BY SOME, THE FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. 
          PICKED IT UP, ARRESTED FOR PEGGY. 
          NIK AGAIN, PICKED A BHALLA. 
          AGAIN, THE BAIL WAS, BUT AS SUCH, I MEAN, UH, THE BAIL WAS SO EXCESSIVE, OBSESSIVE, I GUESS IT WAS TO, FOR THE FAMILY NOT TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE BILL, BECAUSE ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS SAID, LEAVE HIM THERE. 
          JUST LET HIM STAY THERE. 
          NOW, THIS IS, UH, THIS PERSON HAD A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, WAS TOTALLY, TOTALLY NONVIOLENT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, APOLOGIZING TO THE POLICE, APOLOGIZING. 
          AND THEY DID THIS. 
          THEY'RE ENCOURAGING THE FAMILY TO LEAVE THE PERSON THERE. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE THE OFFICERS TRAIN TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WITH MENTAL I ISSUES PEOPLE WHO ARE TOTALLY NON-VIOLENT, TOTALLY NON-VIOLENT. 
          IS THERE ANY TRAINING HERE? THERE IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN ANSWER THIS. 
          WELL, WE COULD, WE CAN TRY TO ANSWER THAT. 
          THERE IS TRAINING, BUT NOT ENOUGH. 
          THERE SHOULD BE MECHANISMS THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE WHERE, AND AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, A NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE LOOKING AT WHERE, AND WITH THE ISSUE WITH MENTAL, UH, ILLNESS MM-HMM. 
          , HOW DO WE RESPOND? AND THEN WE NEED OUR FIRST RESPONDING POLICE OFFICERS. 
          AND THEY'LL, THEY WANNA LOOK AT, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS RESPOND WITH 'EM. 
          BUT YOU, YOU'RE GONNA NEED THAT INITIAL RESPONDING POLICE OFFICER TO GO THERE. 
          THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASSESS WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT THE FIRST COUPLE MINUTES, AND, AND, AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT THOSE NAMES OF PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY BE PUT ON A LIST IN COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THAT NEEDS TIME THAT THEIR NAME COMES UP. 
          OR IF IT'S RAN BY A POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE FLAGS THAT ARE, THAT WILL GO UP SO THAT THE PEOPLE IN COMMUNICATION CAN ACTUALLY ALERT THE OFFICER. 
          THIS GENTLEMAN HAS A MENTAL, UH, ILLNESS. 
          THERE IS A PROBLEM THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THERE'S AN ADDRESS THERE. 
          AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT, AND, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WILL BE RESOURCES TO HELP THE OFFICER, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          UH, THINKING THAT MAYBE THIS PERSON IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SOME KIND OF NARCOTIC AS OPPOSED TO YEAH. 
          HE JUST MAY NOT BE TAKING HIS MEDICATION. 
          BUT NO, THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO ADEQUATELY RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK, DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AS THEY ARE COMING AT THEM. 
          AND THE ALARMING RATE THAT THEY'RE COMING AT. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE, UM, MANNY RIS, HE WAS BEEN, HE'S BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY. 
          MANNY, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. 
          HI, HOW ARE YOU? UH, I'M GONNA TAKE A FEW MINUTES. 
          UH, UH, I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES? YEAH. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          UM, A QUICK STORY. 
          UH, I WENT TO THE LIBRARY ONE DAY AND, AND THERE WERE FIVE POLICE CRUISERS IN THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE CIRCLE. 
          AND, AND I THOUGHT MAYBE THERE WAS A RIOT INSIDE THE LIBRARY. 
          AND WHEN I WALKED IN, I ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T GET TO WALK IN BECAUSE WHEN I WAS WALKING TOWARDS THE LIBRARY, I WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT GOING TO THE LIBRARY. 
          UH, SOME KID WALKED OUT, UH, WITH A BOOK BACK OVER HIS SHOULDER, NOT ARRESTED, NOT IN HANDCUFFS, AND JUST GOT IN THE POLICE, ONE OF THE POLICE CRUISER. 
          BUT THERE WERE FIVE POLICE CARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUICK STORY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WERE FIVE, 
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BUT I THINK IT'S OVER POLICING. 
          UH, WHICH IT TALKS ABOUT THE SIZE OF OUR POLICE FORCE. 
          UH, ONE, YEAH. 
          BUT COMPLAINTS, POLICE COMPLAINTS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW ALL THE POLICE COMPLAINTS GOES TO A, TO A LIEUTENANT IN THE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT HAS TO BE SEPARATED FROM THE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT SHOULDN'T GO TO THE BOARD. 
          THE, THE TOWN BOARD IS ALREADY SO BUSY. 
          I THINK WE HAVE TO CREATE THAT COMMISSION THAT ACTUALLY OVER HAS CIVILIANS THAT OVERVIEW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE NEED THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE REASON WHY WE NEED THAT IS THAT, LOOK, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A, LET, LET'S THINK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE USED CARS, OLD CARS, AND WE START SPENDING MONEY ON IT. 
          WE TIME DOING FIXES ON IT. 
          WE REPAIR THIS, WE REPAIR THAT, WE REPAIR THAT. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, TO PUTTING FIXES ON A, ON A DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS REIMAGINATION, NEEDS TO BE REIMAGINED, NOT FIXED. 
          OKAY? IT NEEDS REIMAGINED. 
          AND MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO DO IT. 
          AND, BUT IT, IT HAS TO, THE, THE BONES HAVE TO BE PUT IN PLACE FOR A RE IMAGINATION OF THE DEPARTMENT NOT FIXING THIS, FIXING THAT. 
          UM, NINE ONE FOR INSTANCE. 
          NINE ONE, THE LADY WAS CALLING, TALKING ABOUT, UH, SOMEBODY THAT HAS A MENTAL PROBLEM. 
          WE, THAT'S A 9 1 1 PROBLEM, THAT THEY, THEY SHOULD BE TRAINED TO BE DIRECTING IT INTO THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T, CAN'T HANDLE EVERY, EVERYTHING. 
          THEY CAN'T HAVE ALL THIS TRAINING. 
          IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 
          THEY DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH. 
          THEY DON'T TO HAVE ALL THIS TRAINING. 
          UM, UH, AND SO PEOPLE TALK ABOUT DEFUNDING, NO, WE HAVE TO RE, WE HAVE TO REIMAGINE IT AND REFUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I SENT SOMETHING IN ABOUT WHAT'S CALLED ZERO BASED BUDGETING, WHICH FORCES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND IT DOESN'T BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE DONE IN A DAY OR A WEEK, MAYBE A YEAR. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU LOOK AT EVERY DEPARTMENT AND SEE IF IN, IF, IF THE FUNDING IS APPROPRIATE EVERY YEAR GOING FORWARD AFTER THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE MECHANISM GETS PUT IN PLACE. 
          PLACE. 
          I MEAN, YEAH, WE DON'T, WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY TASK FORCE, LIKE SETH MENTIONED. 
          WE, WE HAVE A SWAT TEAM. 
          DO WE NEED A SWAT TEAM? THERE, THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TASK FORCE THAT ARE USED BEING PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY NEED, THEY NEED THINGS TO DO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND UNDERNEATH THE OVERTIME, YOU KNOW, I ACCOUNTABILITY'S IMPORTANT, BUT IF WE DON'T SET THE BONES IN PLACE TO REIMAGINE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FROM TRAINING TO HIRING TO WE, WE WILL GET AN OLD CAR WITH LOTS OF FIXES ON IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED THAT. 
          I, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT FITS OUR COMMUNITY A LOT BETTER IF WE LOOK REIMAGINE IT AND, AND LOOK AT THE WAY WE BUDGET IT, THE WAY WE, WE FINANCE IT, THE WAY WE, WE POLICE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          ALL THESE THINGS CAN BE DONE, BUT NOT BY, BY LOOKING AT QUICK FIXES. 
          UM, I HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY, BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL YIELD MY TIME, SO MAYBE LATER I CAN SAY SOME MORE STUFF. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, MANNY. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          I HAVE, UM, SHARON, SHARON MOSLEY. 
          YES. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA SHARE A, UM, A STORY, UM, THAT HAS HAPPENED A FEW TIMES THIS YEAR ONLY. 
          UM, I AM A RUNNER, SO I'M USUALLY OUT IN THE MORNINGS, UM, FOR MY MORNING RUN, UM, JOGGING. 
          AND LATELY THERE'S BEEN, UM, AND USUALLY I, I GO THE SAME ROUTE ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, AND LATELY A POLICE CAR, UM, IT'S BEEN DIFFERENT POLICE CARS. 
          UM, EACH TIME HAS JUST KIND OF LIKE SLOWED DOWN AND ALMOST LIKE FOLLOWED. 
          UM, ME AND THEN THE, UM, OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALSO BEEN RUNNING BY THEMSELVES, WE'VE KIND OF SWAPPED STORIES. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS. 
          UM, THEY KIND OF TURNED ONTO A DIFFERENT BLOCK, FOLLOWED ME SLOWLY, AND THEN I TURNED ONTO A DIFFERENT BLOCK, AND THEN THEY KIND OF MADE A U-TURN AND WENT ON THEIR WAY. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS. 
          UM, I, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT IS BEING ASKED IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE POLICE TO BE? AND IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF ISSUE OR SOMETHING, LIKE, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED IF MAYBE THEY HAD PULLED UP TO ME AND PULLED THE WINDOW DOWN AND JUST KIND OF SHARED WHY, UM, THEY WERE DOING THIS. 
          BUT IT JUST KIND OF MAKES US FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN YOU'RE JUST OUT ON YOUR ROUTINE MORNING RUN 
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AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF SLOWLY FOLLOWING YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF JUST, I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN SHARE ANY INSIGHT ON THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, ON WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN RUNNING FOR YEARS HERE IN GREENBURG, AND IT NEVER RAN INTO ANY ISSUE. 
          UM, SO IF ANYONE COULD SHARE ANY INSIGHT, SHARON, I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION JUST REALLY QUICKLY. 
          SURE. 
          DID YOU EVER CALL TO REPORT IT? DID YOU EVER CALL TO INQUIRE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I RUN EVERY MORNING ON JUNIPER HILL, AND I FIND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT OFFICERS SLOWING DOWN AND MAKING ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE? NO. 
          HAVE YOU INQUIRED ABOUT THAT? I HAVE NOT, BUT I WOULD. 
          UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHEN I SAW THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING TONIGHT, I KIND OF WANTED TO GET THAT, UM, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER TO CALL? WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN EMAIL, WHAT WOULD BE THE EMAIL? MM-HMM. 
          UM, YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, WELL MAKE SURE THAT GETS IN THE CHAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DID ANYBODY WANNA DENNY, BEFORE, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO, JUST TO OUR NEXT, UH, SPEAKER, JENNIFER, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTED TO ADDRESS SHARON'S? I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          IF I COULD JUST ADDRESS SHARON? MM-HMM. 
          , UH, JUST ONE THING, SHARON, UH, DO YOU EVER JUST TRY AND STOP THE OFFICER AND ASK HIM A QUESTION? 'CAUSE THAT'S YOUR RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA BE COMFORTABLE AND FEEL FREE TO RUN ON IN THAT AREA ANYTIME, UH, THAT YOU, UH, THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD DO IS STOP THE OFFICER AND SAY, HEY, OFFICER, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU DOING? YOU KNOW, I RUN OUT HERE ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU'RE FOLLOWING ME? I DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THE TIME TO STOP. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I CAN WORK AT THE RIDGE NEXT TIME IT HAPPENS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND ASK THE OFFICER, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEN HE MAY BE ABLE TO SHARE SOME THINGS WITH YOU SO THAT YOU WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THE MORNING TIMES WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE RUNNING. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT TIME THE OFFICER MAY JUST PULL UP AND JUST WAVE AT YOU, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA THAT YOU RUN IN, YOU WANNA BE COMFORTABLE. 
          AND I'M SURE YOUR FAMILY WANTS TO BE COMFORTABLE AND FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU ARE RUNNING AT A SAFE ROUTE. 
          YOU KNOW? AND EVERYONE SHOULD FEEL YOU KNOW, THAT, HEY, THERE'S A POLICE OFFICER HERE, SO I SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. 
          AND YOU SHOULDN'T FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE BY HAVING THEM AROUND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND LET ME ADD TO, UH, WHAT, UH, MR. TRIPLE SAID, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          UH, AND, AND JUST ASK THE OFFICER OR MAYBE MAKE IT, UH, REFLECTIVE BACK TO HIM. 
          SAY, SAY HELLO, OFFICER. 
          SO GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FOR ME. 
          HAVE A GOOD DAY. 
          THANKS FOR CHECKING ON ME. 
          AND PUT IT BACK ON HIM. 
          I, I KNOW A COUPLE OF TIMES, FEW MORE THAN A COUPLE OF TIMES REALLY, I'VE HAD OFFICERS TO COME IN AND TAKE THEIR LUNCH BREAK AT MY PARKING LOT, WHICH IS NO PROBLEM. 
          BUT IF I SEE THEM OUTSIDE, I WOULD GO OUT AND TELL 'EM, HEY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT OUTSIDE, COME INSIDE, LET'S CHAT WHILE YOU HAVE YOUR LUNCH. 
          AND, AND IT BUILDS THAT RELATIONSHIP. 
          AND, AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT I WANNA ALSO GO BACK AND JUST REAL QUICKLY, I THINK WAS A GOOD IDEA, KIND OF, UH, GLOSSED OVER, UH, TO, IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, INFORMATION, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE VIDEO CAMERA IS, IS MORE PROMINENT THAN PHONE CALLS NOW. 
          AND IF WE WOULD HAVE, WE MAY, UH, AND I THIS PROBABLY DIRECTED TO THE, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE, MAYBE A GOOD SUGGESTION IS TO GET A SERVER WHERE PEOPLE CAN ANON, UH, ANONYMOUSLY UPLOAD VIDEOS TO THE SERVER WHERE THEY CAN BE, UH, WHERE THEY CAN BE LOOKED AT. 
          UH, AND THE OTHER THING IS, WE'VE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT ANY KIND OF POLICE ARREST IS PUBLIC RECORD UNLESS IT IS IN, UH, INVESTIGATIVE MODE. 
          IF, IF NO, IF THERE'S NO OPEN INVESTIGATION, IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. 
          THAT'S HOW THE MEDIA GETS ALL TO ALL OF THESE RECORDS BEFORE E EVERYTHING HAPPENS. 
          AND, AND, AND WE, SO ANYBODY CAN WALK INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND GET A COPY OR LOOK AT THAT RECORD, AND, AND THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          IF YOU BREAK THE LAW, IT BECOMES PUBLIC INFORMATION UNLESS THERE IS AN OPEN INVESTIGATION. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, BISHOP. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, ALAN HENDRICKS HAD ANOTHER COMMENT. 
          YES. 
          WELL, IN RELATION TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TREATING PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES MM-HMM. 
          , UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOP, IF YOU, IF THE TRAINING ISN'T THE PROPER TRAINING, IF YOU'RE JUST TREATING THE MANIFESTATION OF MENTAL ILLNESS, WHICH I ASSUME IS WHAT THE TRAINING IS, BUT PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UNDERSTANDING 
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THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IS NOT ALWAYS CRAZY. 
          THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE PERFECTLY NORMAL AND THEN SOMETHING CAN SET THEM OFF. 
          AND IF YOU'RE SEEING A PERSON WHO MANIFESTS IN THAT WAY, YOU THINK THE, THE NATURAL TENDENCY IS TO THINK THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL, THAT THEY'RE IN CONTROL OF WHAT THEIR CRAZY, THEIR CRAZY BEHAVIOR, FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT TRAINING IS SO IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO THE NATURE OF THE TRAINING AND THE IN-DEPTH TRAINING, SO POLICE OFFICER KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH SOMEONE WHO SEEMS PERFECTLY NORMAL AT ONE MOMENT, ISN'T THE NEXT, AND REALLY ISN'T IN CONTROL. 
          AND THAT UNDERSTANDING MIGHT CHANGE THE WAY THEY RESPOND. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU, ELLEN. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          UH, SUSAN SIEGEL HAS A COMMENT, SUSAN. 
          YEAH, I DO. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THE, THE PERSON WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW SHE RUNS IN THE MORNING, AND SHE'S A BASICALLY ALONE ON THE STREET AND WITHOUT ANY, ANY BACKUP, SO TO SPEAK. 
          AND I FRANKLY, IF I WERE, IF I WAS AWARE THAT THERE WAS A POLICE CAR OR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POLICE CARS THAT FOLLOW RUNNERS IN MY AREA EVERY MORNING, I WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT APPROACHING THEM. 
          UM, SO I, I MEAN, I THINK SOMETHING'S GOING ON THERE, AND IT DIDN'T MAKE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE. 
          AND I'M AN OLD BROOKLYN GIRL. 
          I GREW UP IN A STREET GANG. 
          I WOULDN'T APPROACH THE POLICE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, IF ANYTHING, I MIGHT CALL THE STATION AND ASK WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          BUT IF THIS IS A PATTERN, WHEN YOU SEE A PATTERN LIKE THAT, UH, YOU DON'T WALK INTO IT. 
          YOU ARE RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK I, I ANOTHER TAKEAWAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SHARON, SUSAN, ANOTHER TAKEAWAY THAT WE WANT TO, UM, WALK AWAY WITH THAT. 
          PLEASE DON'T BE AFRAID TO MAKE A PHONE CALL TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          PLEASE DON'T MAKE A, PLEASE DON'T BE AFRAID TO MAKE A CALL TO THE CHIEF. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE, WE, WE WANNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DISPEL THE FEAR THAT PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THE POLICE OFFICERS, BECAUSE THEY ARE HERE TO PROTECT US. 
          AND I, AND I KNOW WE, WE, WE HAVE BEEN, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME REALLY BAD SITUATIONS. 
          HOWEVER, AS WE CONTINUE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SUPERIOR OFFICERS ARE AWARE OF THEIR BEHAVIORS. 
          BUT THE OFFICERS, THE SUPERIOR OFFICERS WON'T KNOW IF WE DON'T SAY ANYTHING. 
          AND THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND I SEE, I SEE THE CHAIR NODDING IN HIS HEAD. 
          I MEAN, HE'S LIVED THIS LIFE FOR 32 YEARS, IF I GOT THAT CORRECTLY. 
          HE'S LIVED THIS LIFE. 
          SO HE UNDERSTANDS THAT ONE, WHAT IT IS TO BE ON THAT SIDE,  OF THE, OF THE SHIELD, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE EVER NOT ON THAT SIDE OF THE SHIELD NOW THAT YOU'RE RETIRED, BUT HOW TO BE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER CONSIDERED CIVILIANS, FORGIVE ME. 
          NOT NOT KNOWING THAT PART OF IT, BUT WHAT PEOPLE MAY FEEL NOT NOT HAVING A BADGE ANY LONGER, OR NOT CARRYING A GUN, UM, ANY LONGER, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO SAY THIS. 
          DO YOU FEEL SAFE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIDING PRIVATELY IN YOUR CAR NOW, AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE A FORMER POLICE OFFICER? YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK ON. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WILL COME OUTTA AN ADDITION. 
          WHAT'LL COME OUT OF THIS TASK FORCE IS TO MAKING OUR RESIDENTS FEEL COMFORTABLE IN REPORTING WHAT'S WRONG. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO. 
          WE HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, IF WE DON'T WANNA GO DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE OFFICERS, COME DIRECTLY TO YOUR, TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, COME TO YOUR, COME TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CLERGY AND SAY, I HAVE AN ISSUE. 
          I'M AFRAID. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED TO ME. 
          BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO FIX IT IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BROKEN. 
          AND LUCKILY ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE THIS ROUND TABLE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE AND SHARE OUR EXPERIENCES. 
          BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY THAT IT, IT, IT STAY THAT IT COMES HERE. 
          THAT'S ALSO THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE OF THIS FORUM HERE. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I PUT THAT IN. 
          UM, I THINK I HAVE, THERE WAS ONE MORE, ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS SINGLE AFTER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE, SO I THINK ELLEN, WE'RE ALL SET. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, IT'S EIGHT 11. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER 
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COMMENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MEET THAT WOULD, LIKE, EXCUSE ME, THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE WE BEGIN TO WRAP UP? AND I'LL JUST CHECK THE CHAT TO SEE. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          SHARON AND I, AND I HOPE SHARON, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SADDENS ME. 
          I HOPE THAT TONIGHT HAS GIVEN YOU A COMFORT WHERE YOU FEEL THE NEED TO COME AND, AND MAKE A PHONE CALL TO THE POLICE STATION AND SAY, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, OR MAKE A PHONE CALL TO MYSELF OR ANY MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD THAT'S ON THE LINE TO SAY, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT CALL TO US, BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO FEEL SAFE. 
          WE WANT YOU TO ENJOY YOUR RUN IN THE MORNING. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          IT REALLY, REALLY IS IMPORTANT. 
          OKAY? IT IS. 
          AND I  ON THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GETTING READY TO CLOSE, GINA, IT IS, IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO US AS PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, WE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          WE SHOULD KNOW WHO'S PATROLLING OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO THAT OFFICER IS IN THAT CAR. 
          WHEN YOU SEE THAT CAR DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, OR LIKE THE YOUNG LADY SAID, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SEE THAT CAR FOLLOWING YOU AS YOU'RE RUNNING, MAKE A MENTAL NOTE. 
          WHAT NUMBER'S ON THAT CAR? WHAT CAR IS THAT? THERE'S A BIG, UM, BLUE NUMBER THAT'S ATTACHED TO THAT CAR. 
          YOU KNOW, WHICH OFFICER IS DRIVING THAT? GREENBERG DOESN'T HAVE 500 SWORN POLICE OFFICERS. 
          ALL RIGHT? GREENBERG HAS LESS THAN A HUNDRED SWORN POLICE OFFICERS. 
          WE SHOULD KNOW WHO'S IN OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          WHO'S DRIVING THOSE CARS? YOU SHOULD SAY, OH, THAT'S OFFICER TRIPLE THAT'S DRIVING THAT OFFICER TRIPLE, HOW YOU DOING? WELL, OFFICER TRIMBLE'S NOT ON TODAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, THEN IT'S OFFICER FORD. 
          WE SHOULD KNOW WHO IS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, WHO'S PATROLLING OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO GO UP AND SAY SOMETHING TO 'EM. 
          THEY ARE SWORN TO PROTECT US. 
          THEY WORK FOR US. 
          AND IF WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE GOING UP TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG HERE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MANNY, MANNY, YOU HAD, YOU WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. 
          UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO, TO, TO THINK OF OURSELVES MAKING OURSELVES AWARE AND, AND RESPONSIVE TO, TO THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, UM, TO KEEP POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACCOUNTABLE. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S THEIR JOB TO MAKE US FEEL COMFORTABLE, NOT OUR JOB. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND, AND UNLESS WE PUT THE, THE, THE, LIKE THE REVEREND SAID, UNLESS WE PUT THE MECHANISMS IN PLACE, THE PROCESSES THAT HOLDS 'EM ACCOUNTABLE AND, AND, AND, AND PROVIDES A TRAINING NECESSARY FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOB THE WAY WE WANT 'EM TO DO, THIS JUST BECOMES A PUBLIC RELATION, UH, EFFORT. 
          NOT, NOT A SYSTEM LOOKING AT A SYSTEMATIC, SYSTEMATIC PROBLEM THAT NEEDS SYSTEMATIC, A SYSTEMATIC SOLUTION. 
          I THINK, I THINK AGAIN, IT, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW, HOW TO PATCH UP THIS, THIS CAR THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT IT, IT IS NOT BROKEN. 
          IT'S WORKS, BUT IT'S NOT WORKING FOR EVERYONE, AND IT'S NOT WORKING AS INTENDED. 
          AND, AND THEN WE'RE ASKING THE, THE DRIVER TO LEARN HOW TO FIX IT WHEN IT BREAKS DOWN BY DOING CERTAIN ACTIVITIES. 
          I THINK THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE WRONG APPROACH. 
          THE APPROACH THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING IS LOOKING AT HOW THE DEPARTMENT CAN BE IMPROVED AND REIMAGINE OKAY. 
          REIMAGINE AND REFUNDED IN A WAY THAT HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING FOR US AND WE, WE ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULD GET THE SERVICES THAT WE EXPECT FROM EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN OUR TOWN. 
          OKAY? AND IT'S UP TO THE CITIZENSHIP TO, TO BE PART OF THAT SOLUTION, RIGHT? BY HAVING A COM, A COMMISSION THAT IS CITIZEN-BASED AND IT'S APPROVED AND AND NAMED BY THE TOWN BOARD AND, AND, AND, AND REIMAGINES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT THE CITIZENSHIP, THE CITIZEN. 
          THEY HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY, BUT IT'S THERE, THE, THE POLICE JOB TO BE RESPONSIVE TO OUR NEEDS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU WELCOME, MANNY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DONALD, YOU HAD A QUESTION OR A COMMENT? YEAH, I JUST WANNA THANK COUNCILMAN SHEEN FOR PUTTING ON THE CHAT THAT NEW YORK JUST PASSED THE LAW S 3 2 53. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE LEGISLATION IS TO ESTABLISH THE NEW YORKER'S RIGHT TO MONITOR ACT, WHICH ENFORCES THE RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS TO FILM OR RECORD A POLICE OFFICER IN THE ACT OF 
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MAKING AN ARREST OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY. 
          AND ENSURES THAT SUCH POLICE OFFICERS SHALL NOT INTENTIONALLY BLOCK OR OBSTRUCT RECORDING DEVICES BEING PURPOSEFULLY USED FOR MONITORING SUCH ARREST OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY. 
          IT WAS PASSED BY THE ASSEMBLY AND SENATE AND SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO COME BACK AND READDRESS. 
          UH, UH, I HAD READ THAT AND, AND, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, THE GREAT, UH, ELIJAH MUHAMMAD SAID, IF THE MOUNTAIN DON'T COME TO DO YOU, YOU GO TO THE MOUNTAIN. 
          NOW, WE CANNOT EXPECT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY. 
          I KNOW IT'S IN, IT'S IN THAT PURVIEW TO COME TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DON'T DO THAT. 
          SO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE, HAVE, HAVE THE STRENGTH TO OVERCOME THE FEAR OF SPEAKING TO POLICE OFFICERS AND GO TO THEM AND SAY, HELLO, MY NAME IS, IS SO AND SO, MY NAME'S WILBERT PRESTON, GLAD YOU OUT TODAY PROTECTING ME. 
          AND JUST KEEP, KEEP MOVING ALONG. 
          AND THAT WILL, THAT, THAT, THAT WILL MINIMIZE THAT, THAT KIND OF OF RELATIONSHIP. 
          THE OTHER THING I, I WANT TO ADDRESS, AND, AND, AND, AND THIS IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM IN, IN MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AND IT'S PREVALENT AND NOT, IT IS NOT PREVALENT. 
          IT AT ITS LEAST A PART OF THE WAY, UH, GREENBURG IS, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RUN. 
          IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, MORE OFFICERS SHOW UP THAN IN A WHITE COMMUNITY NOW. 
          AND, AND I NOTED THAT SEVERAL TIMES. 
          I WENT WITH HARRY LAWSON TO PICKET IN THE FRONT OF A SCHOOL, UH, A BOARD MEMBER'S, UH, UH, RESIDENTS BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET THAT PERSON OFF THE, OFF THE BOARD MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND, AND WHEN WE GOT IN THE WHITE COMMUNITY, NINE CARS SHOWED UP FOR TWO BLACK MEN SITTING ON THE STREET. 
          WE DID THE SAME THING FOR A BLACK PERSON IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND ONLY TWO CO COP CARS. 
          SO IT'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY WE ARE POLICE. 
          IT'S, IT'S SYSTEMIC. 
          AND, AND WE GOT TO ADDRESS IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, BISHOP. 
          I HAVE A COMMENT. 
          LYNN LYNN GOODMAN OF GREENBERG HUMAN RIGHTS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS THAT WE SHOULD JUST TALK TO THE POLICE, UH, I HAVE DONE THAT ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS. 
          UM, MY CAR WAS BROKEN INTO MY COMPUTER'S STOLEN, UH, ANOTHER TIME. 
          UH, THERE WERE POLICE AT MY DOOR IN TARRYTOWN. 
          I'VE BEEN TREATED RUDELY BY THE POLICE ON THE PHONE. 
          UM, THEY ARE AUTHORITARIAN. 
          THEY ACT LIKE THEY DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME WITH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND SO I, IT, IT'S BEEN AN UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE WHEN, WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING ON. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT OCCURS AND IT REALLY SHOULDN'T OCCUR. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M IN TARRYTOWN AND, UM, TWO OFFICERS WERE AT MY DOOR, UM, LOOKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. 
          UM, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. 
          SO I DROVE AWAY AND I CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I ENDED UP GETTING THE SAME COP WHO WAS AT MY DOOR. 
          AND, UM, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT CALLING THE CHIEF OR CALLING THE POLICE WHEN WE HAVE A CONCERN IS THE GREATEST ANSWER FOR. 
          AND I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN TREATED RUDELY. 
          I'VE BEEN TREATED WITH SHORT SHRIFT. 
          UM, IT'S NOT PLEASANT. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND I'M A WHITE PERSON, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY IT. 
          YOU KNOW? UM, SO WE GOTTA THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT? THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT, LYNN. 
          AND, AND, AND AGAIN, THANK GOD, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF, UM, THE COMMITTEE. 
          AND THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE STORIES AND THESE ARE THE INCIDENTS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR. 
          SO WE CAN FORMULATE, UM, OUR NEXT STEPS AND WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY CHANGE OR EDUCATE OR IMPROVE, IF YOU WILL, OUR EXPERIENCES WITH, UM, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I MEAN, O BLACK, WHITE MEN, WOMEN, WE, EVERYONE SHOULD BE TREATED. 
          RESPECT. 
          THERE SHOULD BE, THERE SHOULD BE NOT A, A CATEGORY OR, OR, OR A CERTAIN RE OR A CERTAIN REA A CERTAIN REASON WHY I'M NOT GONNA RESPECT HIM. 
          I'M NOT GONNA RESPECT HER BECAUSE OF WHATEVER. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PART OF THIS TRAINING, AND I'M SURE, AND, AND HOWARD, YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT, I'M SURE IT IS ALWAYS REITERATED THAT YOU HAVE TO SHOW RESPECT, SHOW RESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY, SHOW RESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE ALL IN SCHOOL AND YOU HAD MAYBE THAT ONE TEACHER OR THAT ONE CLASS YOU DIDN'T LIKE, SO YOU REALLY DIDN'T RETAIN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS BEING TAUGHT TO YOU. 
          SO 
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WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE, IF THEY'RE NOT RETAINING THAT INFORMATION AND THEY'RE NOT PROVING AND DISPLAYING THE BEHAVIOR THAT IS WARRANTED, THE BEHAVIOR THAT IS DESERVED BY, UM, THE COMMUNITY, DO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO REINFORCE IT AND CONTINUE TO REINFORCE IT AND CONTINUE TO REINFORCE IT? AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SYSTEMIC RACISM, IT'S SEXISM. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S AGE. 
          IT'S, IT'S EVERYTHING. 
          AND, AND IT'S, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE GAMUT HERE. 
          YOU KNOW? AND, AND I GET LOST WITH WORDS SOMETIMES BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS, THIS ISSUE IS, IS VERY DISHEARTENING TO ME BECAUSE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE IN FEAR OF PEOPLE WHO WE PAY TO PROTECT US, NO MATTER WHO WE ARE. 
          OKAY? AND THAT, AND THAT FOR ME, IS WHAT DRIVES ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THAT WE REALLY COME OUT AND WE REALLY MAKE SOME REALLY GOOD CHANGES IN GREENBERG. 
          AND WE HOPE. 
          AND THE HOPE IS THAT, THAT WE ARE THE SAMPLE, IF YOU WILL, TO EVERY, TO OTHER AGENCIES TO SAY, LOOK WHAT HAD, WHAT, LOOK WHAT GREENBERG HAS DONE. 
          YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE GREENBERG IS NOT SMALL, AND WE'RE MULTICULTURE, YOU KNOW? SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA TOLERATE THIS ANYMORE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE WILL, AND, AND, AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT SHOULD, BUT WE WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD, THAT'S WHAT SHOULD OUR MOTTO BE, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD CONTINUE. 
          WHEN I TALK TO THE CHIEF, WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, AND HE HAS BEEN VERY, HE'S BEEN VERY HONEST WITH ME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GINA, I KNOW WE'RE NOT PERFECT. 
          I KNOW WE'RE NOT PERFECT. 
          BUT THE FACT THAT HE UNDERSTANDS IT AND HE RECOGNIZE IT, IS THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE. 
          BECAUSE THIS IS HIS DEPARTMENT. 
          AND, AND MYSELF, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, AS A TOWN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU HAVE TO HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHY YOU ELECT, THAT'S WHY YOU ELECTED ME. 
          SO THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE GOING DIRECTLY TO THE P TO THE POLICE CHIEF, YOU HAVE TO LET YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS LIKE MYSELF, FRANCIS SHEEN, KEN JONES, DIANA JUNA, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW US, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW US TO HELP YOU. 
          I HAVE TO ALLOW US TO, TO BE THAT VOICE FOR YOU. 
          OKAY? SO IT IS 8 24, AND I'M MINDFUL 'CAUSE IT'S AROUND DINNER TIME, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EAT. 
          AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. 
          AND THESE CONVERSATIONS WILL CONTINUE. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 
          WE HAVE A DEADLINE BY JANUARY ONE FOR THE TOWN, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR DEADLINE FOR THE STATE OF APRIL 1ST. 
          AND WE WANNA MAKE, AND THIS IS NOT GONNA BE, THIS IS OUR THIRD ONE. 
          AND WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE MORE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM YOU. 
          AND I KNOW I KEEP SAYING, AND I MIGHT SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT WE CAN'T DO THIS WORK IN A SMALL COMMITTEE. 
          YOU AS OUR CONSULTANTS, IS GONNA HELP US MAKE THE CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE. 
          SO, UM, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, WE CAN HOST ANOTHER FORUM. 
          AND I ASKED EVERYONE, IT'LL BE ON THE TOWN WEBSITE TO PLEASE GET IT OUT. 
          PLEASE TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, PLEASE TALK TO YOUR COWORKERS, YOUR FRIENDS, HAVE THEM COME AND JOIN THE CONVERSATION. 
          EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT A GREENBERG RESIDENT, THEY MIGHT HAVE GONE THROUGH GREENBERG AND MAY HAVE HAD AN INCIDENT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW AND THAT WE CAN ADDRESS EVERY ISSUE THAT WE HEAR OR TRY. 
          I WOULD SAY TRY TO ADDRESS EVERY ISSUE THAT WE HEAR ABOUT, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE A GREAT PRODUCT. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GREENBERG HAS THE BEST QUALITY OF LIFE WE WANNA TALK ABOUT, ABOUT IT ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          OKAY? SO CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY BEFORE WE WRAP UP? YES. 
          JUST ONE THING AND TO, TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS PUT THINGS IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN THINGS DO HAPPEN, WE HOLD OUR POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE. 
          WE COULD HAVE EVERY MECHANISM KNOWN TO MAN. 
          WE COULD ACTUALLY REFORM THE WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH HUMAN BEINGS. 
          HUMAN BEINGS ARE GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES, BUT WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WHEN THEY MAKE A MISTAKE, ALL RIGHT, THEY ARE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT MISTAKE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START LESSENING THOSE MISTAKES OR THOSE REPEATED MISTAKES, ALL RIGHT? AND THEN THAT'S WHEN OUR COMMUNITY CAN FEEL A LOT SAFER WHEN YOU GO INTO YOUR HOMES AT NIGHTTIME AND CLOSE THOSE DOOR THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, PAY TO PATROL YOUR STREETS ARE OUT 
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THERE DOING IT IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS ALL TOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SO ON BEHALF OF THE GREENBURG TOWN BOARD CHAIR TRIMBLE AND THE COMMUNITY OF GREENBURG AGAINST SYSTEMIC RACISM, LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMITTEE, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, PLEASE FEEL, FEEL, FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM TO ME DIRECTLY. 
          MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS GJACKSON@GREENBERGNY.COM. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S GJACKSON@GREENBERGNY.COM. 
          IF YOU DO NOT REMEMBER, YOU CAN GO RIGHT TO THE TOWN WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SEND ME AN UH, MESSAGE THROUGH THE TOWN WEBSITE. 
          BUT AGAIN, EVERYONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT. 
          PLEASE REMEMBER TO STAY SAFE. 
          AND PLEASE REMEMBER THAT EARLY VOTING STARTS SUNDAY, SATURDAY, SATURDAY THE 24TH, SATURDAY THE 24TH, SATURDAY THE 24TH. 
          SO PLEASE COME OUT AND VOTE FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG. 
          YOUR EARLY POLLING PLACE IS THAT TOWN HALL, AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN THE VILLAGES, IT'S AT DOS FERRY TOWN HALL. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AT OUR NEXT EVENT. 
          HAVE A GREAT EVENING. 
          PLEASE BE SAFE. 
          HAVE A GREAT EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          AND BLESSINGS AND PEACE. 
          YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YES INDEED.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.