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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, December 4, 2024 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ]
AND WELCOME TO THE WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 4TH MEETING, UH, PLANNING BOARD MEETING FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.AARON, PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL, UH, MS. DAVIS.
OUR ALTERNATE MS. SPARKS HERE ON ZOOM.
MR. HAY NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS SAI JOHANN SNAGS AND DYLAN PINE ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
UM, ALTHOUGH WE DO ANTICIPATE MR. PINE ATTENDING AROUND 8:00 PM OKAY.
CAN WE START WITH CORRESPONDENCE PLEASE? CASE NUMBER PB 2132 MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER? YES.
SO CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME THROUGH THE MASK? OKAY.
SO WE DID RECEIVE A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT APPROVALS FOR CASE NUMBER PB 2132 MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM PROJECT.
UH, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A DETAILED LETTER INDICATING THAT THERE WAS A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP ON THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT RESULTED THEM IN THEM HAVING TO RENEGOTIATE A LEASE WITH THE NEW OWNER.
THEY'VE SOUGHT A 180 DAY EXTENSION.
THIS IS THEIR FIRST EXTENSION.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO WHAT WE GONNA DO IS PUT A MO UH, WE NEED A MOTION TO EXTEND IT FOR 180 DAYS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND MR. HAY? YEAH.
AND SO WE'RE GOING EXTEND IT FOR 180 DAYS.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM UNDER CORRESPONDENCE IS CASE NUMBER PB 2133, GREENVILLE SHOPPING CENTER, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM PROJECT, SIMILAR REQUEST TO THE MIDWAY PROJECT, SAME APPLICANT, UM, SEEKING A 180 DAY EXTENSION OF ITS AMENDED SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT APPROVALS, UH, FOR THE REASONS CITED PREVIOUSLY.
SAME LANDLORD, BOTH SHOPPING CENTERS.
SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND, UM, THIS FOR 180 DAYS? SOME.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COME ON, AISHA.
I WAS ABOUT TO CONFIRM, AM I A VOTING MEMBER TODAY? OF COURSE.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT OUT TO BE.
UM, AISHA SPARK WILL BE A VOTING MEMBER THIS EVENING.
ALL OPPOSED, NAY ABSTENTIONS? YES.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES TOWN STAFF CIRCULATED THE DRAFT MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 20TH PLANNING BOARD WORK SESSION.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, MR. HAY, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK.
NOT I CAN'T NOD YOUR HEAD ON ZOOM, PLEASE SPEAKING.
ANY OTHERS WITH ANY COMMENTS IN SPEAK?
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SAME THING APPLIES, TOM, FOR THE, UH, VOTING HAS TO BE VERBAL.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BEAT AFTER I ASK 'CAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A LAG.
AND, AND MS. MOORE MOORE IS GONNA ABSTAIN.
I WASN'T THERE, RIGHT? SO, YEAH.
JUST, JUST, NO, IF, IF YOU SAW THE MEETING MM-HMM.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA, FIRST ITEM UNDER OLD BUSINESS ONLY ITEM UNDER OLD BUSINESS CASE NUMBER PB 22 DASH ZERO FIVE CCO WOODS SUBDIVISION PROJECT IS ON FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION AND TREE REMOVAL
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PERMIT.UH, THE APPLICANT DID WORK WITH TOWN STAFF, PARTICULARLY, UH, THE TOWN ENGINEER AND WATER DEPARTMENT TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THE, THE PLANS WOULD BE SIGNED OFF UPON.
THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE PLAT ENDORSED BY THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE PLAT.
SO THE BOARD HAS, UH, THREE VOTES THIS EVENING TO CONSIDER.
WE DID CIRCULATE A DRAFT DECISION, UH, FOR REVIEW AND QUICKLY I'LL GO THROUGH, UH, COMMENTS OR CONDITIONS I SHOULD SAY OF NOTE THAT WERE REALLY CARRIED OVER FROM THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL THAT WAS GRANTED BY THE BOARD.
UH, ON PAGE NUMBER SIX, CONDITION 4.6, AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD AND, AND CAPTURED AS A CONDITION, THE APPLICANT SHALL INSTALL A SNOW REMOVAL AREA WITH APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE AS DEPICTED ON THE PLANS, UH, LISTED WITHIN THIS DECISION.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS.
4.7 ON THE SAME PAGE, THE APPLICANT SHALL INSTALL, INSTALL SIGNAGE, PROHIBITING PARKING ON THE EASTERLY SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, AS DEPICTED ON THE PLANS SUBMITTED AND APPROVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THIS WAS SLIGHTLY MODIFIED AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY.
FOUR POINT EIGHT'S ON PAGE SEVEN, THE APPLICANT VOLUNTEERED TO DONATE $20,000 TOWARDS SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SEACOR ROAD, AS NOTED IN CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED FEBRUARY 24TH, 2023.
THE PLANNING BOARD HAS ACCEPTED THIS VOLUNTARY, VOLUNTARY DONATION.
IT WAS RECEIVED IN OUR OFFICE, UH, AND RECOGNIZING THAT THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES SEACOR ROAD AS A PRIORITY SIDEWALK LOCATION.
SO YOU ACTUALLY GOT THE MONEY ALREADY? WE DID.
AND THAT WAS CONDITIONED AS PART OF PRELIMINARY THAT THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY THE VOLUNTARY DONATION AHEAD OF CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
SO THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS OF NOTE.
UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE CONDITIONS WITHIN THE DECISION? YEAH, I GOT 7.2.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A 25 YEAR STORM.
I ASSUME THAT'S THE UPGRADED STORM CRITERIA FOR 25.
BUT DON'T WE USUALLY TRY AND GET 50 YEARS AT LEAST? UH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSING THIS, BUT IT'S JUST A RIGHT.
SO I THINK THIS PROJECT WAS INITIATED PRIOR TO THE PLANNING BOARD CONSISTENTLY ASKING.
UM, TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, IT IS RELATED TO THE UPDATED, SO IT INDICATES IN HERE, AND I'LL JUST READ IT FOR THE RECORD, UH, 7.2 ON PAGE SEVEN, THE TOWN ENGINEER SHALL CONFIRM THAT THE, A APPLICANT'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO HANDLE A 25 YEAR EXTREME STORM EVENT BASED OFF THE NORTHEAST REGIONAL CLIMATE CENTER EXTREME PRECIPITATION TABLE AS REPRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO THEY ARE EXCEEDING THEIR 25 YEAR STORM IN THE TOWN CODE BECAUSE THIS 25 YEAR EXTREME STORM EVENT AND THE TABLE, UH, PREPARED BY NORTHEAST REGIONAL CLIMATE CENTER IS, IT'S A GREATER STORM EVENT THAN THE 25 YEAR THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD.
I THOUGHT THE TOWN 25 A YEAR WAS UPGRADED IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO.
NOT IN IT'S, NO, NOT IN THE CODE.
THE CODE, IT'S NOT THE TOWN STANDARD, IT'S THE, UH, THE STATE STANDARD, THE MANUAL THAT THEY RELY UPON.
AND SO WHAT USED TO BE A 25 WAS UPGRADED TO A 25 EXTREME.
I THINK IT'S LIKE A, LIKE A 1.2 INSTEAD OF ONE STANDARD IS LESS RIGOROUS THAN THE STATE.
THE TOWN FOLLOWS THE STATE'S, HE FOLLOWS THE STATE MANUAL.
SO THAT WAS, THAT ALL HAPPENED WHILE THIS PROJECT WAS GOING ON.
SO WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT IT REFERENCED.
SO THE TOWN STANDARD IS THE SAME AS THE STATE? CORRECT.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE VOTES, THERE ARE THREE.
VICE CHAIRPERSON DAVIS CAN CALL THEM OUT.
BUT, UH, FIRST WOULD BE TO CONSIDER WAIVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.
SECOND WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPLICATION FOR DECISION.
AND THIRD WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A DECISION.
SO ON THE FIRST, UM, TO WAIVE THE DECISION TO, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO, I'M SORRY.
DID YOU MR. HARRIS, SO MOVE, SO MOVED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? CAN I, OKAY.
SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION OR IS IT TOO LATE? YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION.
WHAT WAS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR WAIVING
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THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO THE PLANNING BOARD, IT'S IN THE CODE, BUT, UM, IF THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO THE PLAT OR THE PLANS BETWEEN PRELIMINARY AND FINAL, THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THOSE CHANGES WITH THE PUBLIC.UM, AND MOST TIMES, I SHOULD SAY, THERE AREN'T SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
SO THE BOARD WAIVES THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION.
AND ALSO ALSO THERE WAS A, WASN'T THERE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PRELIMINARY? ABSOLUTELY.
THERE WAS ALREADY A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, ALSO MAYBE DEFINE SUBSTATIVE, UH, FOR US SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.
WELL, THERE'S THAT, BUT THERE ARE, BECAUSE YOU, WE GO THROUGH THIS ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS THAT ARE GONNA GO STRAIGHT TO MATTHEW, MATT BRAND.
THE ROADWAY FOR THIS SUBDIVISION IS SITUATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
FOR SOME REASON, THROUGH, UH, REVIEW WITH THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE REQUIRED AND AGREED TO SWITCH THE ROAD TO THE EAST SIDE AND FLIP THE HOUSES TO THE WEST SIDE.
THAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIVE, RIGHT? EVEN IF THE LOT LINES WEREN'T CHANGING.
UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE THE BOARD WOULD LIKELY WANT TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER.
ON THE SECOND ITEM, OH, SO CAN I SECOND NOW? YOU MAY I, I'LL SECOND.
YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? ALL RIGHT.
AND CAN WE TAKE A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UM, READ THE SECOND ONE, PLEASE.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
SO I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THAT, DO YOU HAVE, IS ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT, MICHAEL? OKAY.
SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? SO MOVED A, OKAY.
IS THAT A HICCUP OR A SECOND? SOUNDED LIKE A SECOND.
CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME? NO, THIS IS MUCH BETTER.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU START SPEAKING.
YOU SORT OF, YOU'VE GOT A LAG, BUT ONCE YOU'RE TALKING WE CAN HEAR YOU.
THERE'LL ALWAYS, YEAH, I THINK THERE'S GONNA ALWAYS BE A LAG IN THAT.
AND THE, THE LAST MOTION IS FOR THE TREE REMOVAL.
THE MOTION FOR THE TREE REMOVAL.
MR. HAY, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH THE FINAL DECISION SO THAT YOU CAN FILE IT WITH, UH, THE LAND RECORD COUNTY LAND RECORDS.
YOU SENT TO THE BOARD THAT THIS WAS A PRE-APPROVED.
THIS WAS ALREADY AN EXISTING PROPERTY AND A EXISTING SUBDIVISION, THAT IT WAS BECAUSE WE WANTED THE GEOMETRY TO BE PERFECT, THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT THIS SUBDIVISION HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
WE ALREADY HAVE FOUR LOTS, BUT THIS IS A BETTER PRODUCT.
THANKS TO THE PLANNING BOARD GUIDANCE.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT, DOING IT EXPEDITIOUSLY, AND WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS.
SO ARE WE, WE GONNA MOVE SETS US UP FOR THE, UM, SO WE CAN TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK AND END UP ON THE DAY.
SO, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO WORK SESSIONS.
JUST GIVE US A TWO MINUTE BREAK AND WE ARE GONNA MOVE UP TO THE DATE.
TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WELCOME TO THE GREENBERG TOWN OF GREENBERG PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
WE'D LIKE TO OPEN THE ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE FIRST CASE IS CASE PB 22 0 7, CHICK-FIL-A.
AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WILL CALL THE ROLL AGAIN JUST BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION.
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TURN OUR ALTERNATE MS. SPARKS PRESENT.MS. SPARKS WILL BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER THIS EVENING IN PLACE OF MR. DESAI WHO'S NOT PRESENT.
WE ALSO HAVE MR. SNAGS WHO IS NOT PRESENT, AND MR. PINE WHO'S NOT PRESENT, BUT MAY BE ATTENDING AROUND 8:00 PM THANK YOU.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED? YES.
SO, UH, JUST ABOUT AN HOUR AND CHANGE AGO, WE DID RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE COUNCIL OF GREENBERG CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS DATED DECEMBER 4TH, 2024.
THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO ALL PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
IT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT AND THE PROJECT TEAM.
IT'S ALSO BEEN MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
SO, AS MS. DAVIS MENTIONED, CASE NUMBER PB 22 DASH ZERO SEVEN, CHICK-FIL-A.
THAT'S FOR A PROPERTY AT 20 TERRYTOWN ROAD PO.
THE APPLICANT SEEKING SITE PLANS, SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMITS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THOSE APPLICATIONS, WHICH INVOLVE THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW QUICK SERVICE FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENT WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY'S AT 20 TERRYTOWN ROAD.
I'LL LET THE APPLICANT WALK THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROPOSAL.
I'LL FILL IN ANY BLANKS IF NECESSARY.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL ABSOLUTELY OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD.
I'M LAND USE COUNSEL FOR CHICK-FIL-A FROM THE LAW FIRM OF WHITEMAN OSTERMAN AND HANNAH IN ALBANY, NEW YORK.
UM, WE HAVE NOW BEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, UH, SEEKING SITE PLANS, SPECIAL USE PERMITS, UM, AND A LANDSCAPING WAIVER FROM THIS PLANNING BOARD FOR A PROPOSED CHICK-FIL-A RESTAURANT ACCESSORY OFF STREET PARKING, UH, AND DRIVE THROUGH ACCESSORY, UH, USES.
I'M JUST GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT OF A RECAP, UH, FOR NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, THAT MAY HAVE NOT HEARD MY SPIEL BEFORE.
UM, AGAIN, WE APPLIED TO THIS PLANNING BOARD AND BELIEVE IN JANUARY OF 2023.
WE WENT THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS WITH THIS BOARD THAT LASTED ABOUT OVER A YEAR.
THAT CULMINATED IN THE PLANNING BOARD ADOPTING A SECRET AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
AFTER THAT, WE WENT TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO OBTAIN THE REQUIRED AREA VARIANCES FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE ON THE PROJECT PLANS HERE, HALF OF THIS, A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF OF THIS PROJECT SITE IS IN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS.
SO WE ALSO HAD TO GO TO THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PLANNING BOARD TO OBTAIN SITE PLAN APPROVAL, UH, FOR THE COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT ON THE WHITE PLAIN SIDE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE USED FOR CHICK-FIL-A TEAM MEMBER PARKING ONLY.
SO CURRENTLY WHERE WE STAND TODAY WITHOUT GOING INTO THE DEEP DIVE INTO THE HISTORY, IS WE HAVE AN AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION FROM THIS PLANNING BOARD THAT WAS OBTAINED IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
WE ALSO HAVE A SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT OBTAINED FROM THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS FOR THE USE OF THAT COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.
AND THAT IS CONDITIONED ON THE FACT THAT IT CAN ONLY BE USED BY CHICK-FIL-A EMPLOYEES, AND THERE ARE 30 PARKING SPACES THERE.
WE'VE ALSO OBTAINED ALL NECESSARY AREA VARIANCES FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS BY A DECISION GRANTED ON NOVEMBER 14TH.
SO THAT NOW BRINGS US BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR REQUESTED SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WE HAD ABOUT FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE ZBAI THINK WE HAD TWO OR THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PLANNING BOARD.
AND WE'VE ALSO HAVE HAD ONE PUBLIC HEARING ALREADY WITH THIS PLANNING BOARD PRIOR TO ITS SECRET DETERMINATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO, TO NOTE THIS EVENING IS OF IMPORTANCE, AND IT IS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE LETTER THAT THIS BOARD RECEIVED TODAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A LANDSCAPING WAIVER.
SO PER THE CODE, THERE IS A REQUIRED LANDSCAPING BUFFER OF 10 FEET AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT SITE.
HOWEVER, THIS PLANNING BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO WAIVE TO WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
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THAT THE ZBA DID GRANT THREE AREA VARIANCES THAT INCLUDE DISTANCE FROM THE OFF STREET PARKING TO THE, TO THE LOT LINE.SO THE ZBA HAS ALREADY BLESSED OUR BUFFER REQUIREMENTS HERE.
AS FAR AS SETBACKS GO, WE HAVE, AND TIM WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS, WE HAVE PROVIDED LANDSCAPING TO THIS EXTENT PRACTICABLE, INCLUDING WITHIN THE DOT RIGHT OF WAY.
AND WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS IN THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
UM, SO THIS EVENING I HAVE TIM FRY TAG FROM BOWLER ENGINEERING, WHO'S OUR PROJECT CIVIL ENGINEER.
HE'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE PLANS.
WE ALSO HAVE PHIL GREELEY FROM COLLIERS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, WHO IS OUR PROJECT TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE WITHIN THE PROJECT SITE.
THERE ARE ALSO A HOST OF TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDE WIDENING, NEW TURNING LANES STRIPING IN THE ROUNDABOUT THAT IS ADJACENT TO PROJECT SITE, UM, AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON TERRYTOWN ROAD.
AND PHIL WILL BE ABLE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE, UM, AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS TO HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DOT WITH REGARD TO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
TIM FRY TAG WITH BOWLER ENGINEERING HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
WE'RE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AS A CIVIL ENGINEER AS WE PREPARED THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF OUR APPLICATION MATERIALS.
BACKING UP TO WHERE WE BEGAN, WE BEGAN WITH A SURVEY TO ANALYZE THE EXISTING SITE.
THE EXISTING SITE IS, UH, A FORMER CVS VACANT FACILITY PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED, CURRENTLY SITTING VACANT.
IT'S ASKING TO BE REDEVELOPED.
SO THESE ARE THE EXCITING PROJECTS WE CAN REDEVELOP AND BRING NEW LIGHT AND ACTIVITY AND AMENITIES TO THE AREA BY REDEVELOPING A PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED SITE.
85% OF THE LOT TODAY IS COVERED WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
THERE IS A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, BUILDING ON SITE.
AND THAT BUILDING ACTUALLY SPANS BETWEEN THE TWO JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING, GET RID OF ALL OF THE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS AREAS, UM, SCRAPE THE SITE AND START FRESH.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANT FACILITY.
IT'LL BE OPERATED BY CHICK-FIL-A THIS IS A, A LEASE DEAL.
SO CHICK-FIL-A WILL LEASE THE SITE FROM THE OWNER.
THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WILL BOTH HAVE BOTH INDOOR DINING AND OUTDOOR PATIO DINING.
IT'S SURROUNDED BY A DUAL LANE DRIVE-THROUGH THIS DRIVE-THRU WILL HAVE TWO ASSOCIATED CANOPIES WITHIN THE DRIVE-THRU.
ONE AT YOUR ORDER POINT WHERE THE MENU BOARDS ARE, AND YOU WOULD PLACE YOUR ORDER AND ALSO A SECOND CANOPY OVER THE MEAL FULFILLMENT OR DELIVERY AREA WHERE YOU PICK UP YOUR MEAL.
THOSE ARE REPRESENTED ON THE SCREEN OF JUST A COLORED SITE PLAN OF A COLORED RENDERED SITE PLAN OF THE 2D SITE PLAN, UH, BLACK AND WHITE, THOSE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED, THE GRAY OR THE DARKER GRAY AREAS OVER THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT, UH, SURROUND THE BUILDING ARE THOSE CANOPIES.
THIS IS A DUAL LANE, UH, DRIVE THROUGH.
YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH A, A TYPICAL QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANT.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TWO MANY BOARDS.
IT MERGES TO ONE LANE AND YOU PICK UP AT A DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW.
UM, WHAT CHICK-FIL-A HAS REVOLUTIONIZED HERE WITH THE QUICK SERVE RESTAURANT BUSINESS IS INSTEAD OF A PICKUP WINDOW, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH DOOR AND THEY UTILIZE TEAM, UTILIZE TEAM MEMBERS TO INCREASE EFFICIENCIES WITH FACE-TO-FACE INTERACTION, BOTH WHERE YOU ORDER AND WHERE YOU PICK UP YOUR MEAL.
SO THERE'LL BE TEAM MEMBERS STATIONED PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE DRIVE-THROUGH HELPING EXPEDITE AND TAKE YOUR ORDER.
THEY'LL HAVE MENUS ON THEM, THEY'LL HAVE IPADS THAT THEY CAN PUNCH IN AND PLACE YOUR ORDER.
THEY CAN COLLECT, UH, CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS OUT IN THE DRIVE THROUGH AT THAT FIRST CANOPY, AND THEN WHERE YOU WOULD PICK UP YOUR MEAL.
TYPICALLY THROUGH A WINDOW, THERE'S A DOOR THERE.
SO TEAM MEMBERS CAN HAND DELIVER THE MEAL TO A CAR IN THE FIRST LANE OR EVEN THE OUTER LANE.
SO YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PULLED RIGHT UP TO THE BUILDING TO GET YOUR MEAL TO MEMBERS CAN DELIVER TO THAT SECOND, UH, LANE.
THAT INCREASES THE STACKING CAPACITY AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THE DRIVE THROUGH.
WE ALSO HAVE AN ANCILLARY PARKING LOT THAT WILL FURTHER SUPPORT, UH, THE RESTAURANT AND THE DINE IN GUESTS IN, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE DRIVE THROUGH, THERE'S INDOOR SEATING.
SO YOU CAN GO ORDER, PICK UP YOUR MEAL, UM, TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR CAR OR YOU CAN DINE INSIDE.
THE DESIGN OF THE SITE PLAN HAS REALLY BEEN FOCUSED AROUND, UM, THE DRIVE-THROUGH CIRCULATION AND ASSOCIATED PEDESTRIAN, UH, SAFETY WITH THAT.
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AN ISOLATED DRIVE-THROUGH LAYOUT.A TRADITIONAL DRIVE-THROUGH LAYOUT IS WHEN THE BUILDINGS SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE.
THE DRIVE-THROUGH WRAPS AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN PARKING AROUND YOUR PERIMETER.
THAT'S THE OLD SCHOOL TRADITIONAL WAY.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT TRADITIONAL LAYOUT IS THE PARKING ON THE PERIMETER.
WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR AND GO INSIDE THE BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO WALK ACROSS THE DRIVE THROUGH TO GET INTO THE BUILDING.
WITH THIS ISOLATED LAYOUT, YOU'VE GOT A DRIVE THROUGH THAT WRAPS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE AND AN INTERIOR PARKING LOT THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR PARKING SPACES YOU CAN PARK, WALK INTO THE BUILDING, PICK UP A MEAL, WALK BACK TO YOUR CAR WITHOUT HAVING TO CROSS THE DRIVE THROUGH.
SO THAT'S A REALLY A, A GOOD FOCUS ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WITH THESE NEW LAYOUTS.
ALSO HAVING THE DRIVE THROUGH AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE MAXIMIZES THE STACKING CAPACITY OF THE SITE FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH.
IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE DRIVE THROUGH IN THE PARKING LOT AND THE OUTDOOR DINING, THERE WILL BE, UH, TRASH ENCLOSURE, UH, IN THE NORTHERN CORNER OF THE SITE.
THAT'LL BE A FULLY BRICKED, UH, FACADE MASONRY STRUCTURE TO MATCH THE TWO-TONE BRICK OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING IN THERE.
WE'LL HOUSE THE DUMPSTERS, KEEP IT OUTTA SIGHT.
UH, THERE'S BEEN AN EXTENSIVE COORDINATION WITH, UH, COUNTY PLANNING, CITY AND TOWN STAFF ON THE LOCATION OF THAT DUMPSTER.
UM, WE WANTED TO GET IT OFF ROUTE 100 AND THE FRONT VISIBILITY OF THE CORRIDOR AND FOUND, UH, BEST FIT IN THIS NORTHERN COURT PORTION OF THE SITE.
WE WILL HAVE, UH, LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE PARKING LOTS, UM, BOTH IN THE, THE WHITE PLAINS PARKING LOT AND THE PARKING LOT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THIS PARKING HAS, UH, RECENTLY BEEN REDUCED IN OUR LATEST SUBMISSION TO, UH, MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR LIGHT POLE HEIGHT.
WHAT THIS REQUIRED US TO DO WAS ADD ONE ADDITIONAL LIGHT POLE AT THE DRIVE THROUGH ENTRANCE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE LIGHTING LEVELS AT THE CROSSWALK.
BY REDUCING LIGHT POLE HEIGHTS.
WHY DID YOU ORIGINALLY WANT IT 17 FEET INSTEAD OF 14? SURE.
YEAH, SO IN LIGHTING DESIGN, IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF POLES THAT YOU NEED ON THE SITE AND THE DISTRIBUTION AND SPILLAGE OF THE LIGHT.
THE TALLER THE POLE, THE FURTHER THE LIGHT CAN SPREAD, THE LOWER THE POLE, YOU NEED MORE POLES.
THE THE BENEFIT TO TALLER POLE NOT ONLY IS COST SAVING FOR LESS POLES, BUT IT'S A MORE EVEN DISTRIBUTION OF LIGHT.
WHEN YOU BRING THAT FIXTURE CLOSER TO THE GROUND, IT CREATES MORE HOTSPOTS.
SO IF YOU NOTICE ON THE REVISED LIGHTING PLAN, THE LIGHTING LEVELS IMMEDIATELY UNDER THE BULBS GO UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BRIGHTER UNDER THOSE, UM, LIGHT BULBS 'CAUSE THEY'RE CLOSER TO THE GROUND.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE ON THE SCREEN, THE LIGHTING PLAN? YEAH.
THE, THE, THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, IT JUST HAS, UM, PHOTOMETRIC FOOT CANDLE VALUES ALL THROUGHOUT THAT PLAN.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN SOME AREAS, IF I RECALL IT WENT FROM THE AVERAGE, IT'LL PROBABLY GO FROM FIVE FOOT CANDLES UNDER A PREVIOUS SUBMISSION TO LIKE SIX CAN FOOT CANDLES UNDER, UNDER THOSE UH, SPOTS.
SO THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE.
DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, YEAH.
AND SPEAKING TO THAT, BY BRINGING THE POLE HEIGHTS DOWN IN GREENBURG, THAT WOULD LINE UP WITH THE POLE HEIGHTS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THE WHITE PLAINS LOT.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE WHITE PLAINS REQUESTED US TO TO REDUCE THE LIGHT POLE HEIGHTS TOO.
IN ADDITION TO NEW LIGHTING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, NEW STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, NEW COLLECTION CATCH BASINS PIPING TREATMENT UNITS TO DISCHARGE TO THE NEW YORK STATE DOT STORMWATER SEWER SYSTEM.
THIS HAS BEEN, UM, REVIEWED WITH DOT AND FOUND ACCEPTABLE UNDER THE WHITE PLAINS LOT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A DOT EASEMENT FOR DRAINAGE AND A LARGE SUBSURFACE DRAINAGE CULVERT THAT WE'LL BE TYING INTO THAT.
UM, DOT HAS ACKNOWLEDGED AND REVIEWED THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT.
DOES, DOES THE CURRENT LOT HAVE STORMWATER DRAINAGE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT? IT HAS A SERIES OF COLLECTION CATCH BASINS AND IT DISCHARGES TO THAT, UM, DRAINAGE CULVERT AS WELL AS, UH, THE SIDE ROADS.
BUT WE WILL BE INSTALLING A QUALITY TREATMENT UNIT THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA PRETREAT THAT WATER BEFORE IT'S DISCHARGED NOW, WHICH IS BETTER THAN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO INCREASING GREEN SPACE ACROSS THE SITE.
SO TODAY IT'S 85% COVERED WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
WE'RE GOING DOWN TO ABOUT 79% OR SO IMPERVIOUS.
SO A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN GREEN SPACE BY OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET.
SO JUST ADDING THE MORE GREEN SPACE IN ITSELF IS A STORM WATER,
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UM, TREATMENT PRACTICE.'CAUSE YOU HAVE MORE AREAS FOR, UM, INFILTRATION AND LESS AREAS FOR PAVEMENT RUNOFF.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE QUALITY COMPONENT AGAIN? YOU SAID THAT IT'S TREATING FOR QUALITY.
NORMALLY WE DON'T SEE THAT UNLESS IT'S GREATER THAN AN ACRE.
SO YOU'RE TREATING FOR QUALITY AND QUANTITY? CORRECT.
SO THERE WILL BE A HYDRODYNAMIC SEPARATOR TO TREAT FOR QUALITY.
WE ARE OVER AN ACRE OF DISTURBANCE.
SO WE HAVE A FULL SLIP HERE AND THE, UH, DETENTION COMPONENT FOR QUANTITY IS TREATED BY THE REDUCTION OF IMPERVIOUS AREA.
SO YOU HAVE LESS AREA THAT'S DISCHARGING THE DRAINAGE, WHICH IN TURN IS LESS, UH, STORMWATER THAT IS RUNNING OFF THE SITE.
AND REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING, UM, CAN YOU REPEAT THE REDUCTION THAT WAS APPROVED AS WELL AS IS THIS REPRESENTATIVE WHAT YOU HAVE UP? YES, IT IS.
AND, AND, UM, AS PART OF THE PACKAGE WAS A MORE DETAILED LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE SPECIES AND TYPE OF PLANTINGS.
BUT, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING OVER, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING ABOUT 19 TREES ACROSS THE SITE, OVER 300 MISCELLANEOUS SHRUBS AND GROUND COVERS, AND THEN OVER 200, UH, PERENNIALS THROUGHOUT THESE LANDSCAPING AR LANDSCAPING AREAS THAT'S MORE FORMALIZED ON THE LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR DETAIL SHEET.
THOSE TREES AT THE BOTTOM, THEY'RE ON THE STATE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE TREES IN THE STATE RIGHT AWAY ARE EXISTING AND PROPOSED TO REMAIN.
JUST ONE CLARIFICATION FOR THE PLAN THAT'S UP.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITY OF WHITE PLAIN'S APPROVAL, THAT THE REQUIREMENT WAS TO SEAL OFF AND I SEE THE HAND GOING OVER THAT CURB CUT TO SEAL THAT OFF.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO A CONDITION OF THE WHITE PLAIN'S APPROVAL WAS TO CLOSE THAT DRIVEWAY.
AND THIS PLAN HERE, UM, DEMONSTRATES TO THAT CLOSURE.
IT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK ON THAT ONE AND NOT THE ONE THAT WAS YEAH, RIGHT.
ONE OTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF I, IF I COULD, UH, IT WAS REFERENCED BY MR. GOTTLIEB THAT THE SEEKER AMENDED NE NEGATIVE DECLARATION WAS ADOPTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD IN NOVEMBER.
THE A THE ACTUAL DATE WAS OCTOBER 16TH, 2024.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THE RECORD THERE.
SO, UM, TO, TO FINALIZE YOUR, YOUR QUESTION.
SO THE INCREASE IN GREEN SPACE ACROSS THE SITE, UH, IT'S EXISTING OF 85% LOT COVERAGE IN THE EXISTING CONDITION.
I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID I MEANT SETBACK.
THE, SO THE SETBACKS, UM, FROM THE THREE PROPERTY FRONTAGES REALLY, UH, AS CHARLIE MENTIONED, RECEIVED THE AREA VARIANCES.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PLAN, WE'RE PROVIDING SOME, UM, SHRUB HEDGEROWS IN THOSE AREAS TO FURTHER BUFFER THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THOSE PROPERTY LINES.
BUT IF YOU DO SEE, THERE'S A THICK BLACK LINE THAT SHOWS THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND IF YOU LOOK OUT, UH, ALONG TERRYTOWN ROAD, YOU GOT A REALLY WIDE RIGHT OF WAY IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE DISTANCE FROM OUR CURBING TO THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER GOOD, APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET OR SO OF RIGHT AWAY THAT IT HAS ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO, TO FURTHER BUFFER THOSE AREAS IN SUPPORT OF OUR REQUESTED WAIVER.
UM, BEFORE WE BRING ON THE TRAFFIC, UH, ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE TWO OR THREE QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT OVERVIEW, UM, REGARDING THE EMPLOYEE PARKING SPOT THAT'S IN THE WHITE PLAINS, UM, DISTRICT, AND YOU GOT APPROVAL FOR THAT.
SO MY QUESTION THEN IS PREVIOUSLY I BELIEVE THAT WAS USED AS A SPILLOVER LOCATION IN CASE OF, UM, OVER, UH, THE NUMBER OF CARS GOING INTO THE QUEUE FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH.
SO NOW THAT THAT'S GONNA BE KEPT AS ONLY EMPLOYEE, WHAT IS THE IMPACT NOW REGARDING THE PREVIOUS PLAN FOR SPILLOVER IN THAT AREA? YEP.
SO PHIL'S, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT GREEN? ANY OTHER SITE PLAN? THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT, UH, TRAFFIC QUESTION THAT PHIL'S BEST TO ANSWER.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SITE PLAN QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THAT AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF MAYBE TABLE THAT ONE UNTIL PHIL TALKS ABOUT TRAFFIC.
YEAH, I THINK ALL OF THEM MIGHT BE TRAFFIC.
DID, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I WAS, I WAS JUST GONNA, UM, HIGHLIGHT THE OPERATIONS, UH, PLEASE.
SO, UM, THE OPERATIONS OF, OF CHICK-FIL-A UH,
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TIME OF DAY IS 6:30 AM THEY OPEN, 10:00 PM UH, THEY CLOSE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.THEY'LL BE A LOCAL OPERATOR HERE, UM, FOR, TO RUN AND MANAGE THIS STORE.
AND THAT OPERATOR WILL, UH, BUILD A TEAM OF 125 PLUS FOLKS AS THE TEAM THAT'S GONNA, UH, CONSISTENTLY RUN THE STORE AND BE HIRED BY THIS OPERATION.
AND THEN, UM, THERE HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE REVIEW, UH, WITH THE TOWN AND THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS ABOUT GRAND OPENING OPERATIONS.
SO CHICK-FIL-A HAS A FULL GRAND OPENING TEAM AND A GRAND OPENING PLAN TO HELP SUPPORT THE LOCAL OPERATOR AND THE NEW HIRES IN THE GRAND OPENING OPERATIONS THAT, UM, THIS BOARD AND PHIL HAVE EXTENSIVELY RE REVIEWED WITH, ALONG WITH THE TOWN'S HIRED THIRD PARTY ENGINEER.
UM, SO YEAH, I, I THINK THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE, THE SITE PLAN IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO RE REVAMP AND BRING NEW LIGHT TO THE VACANT BUILDING.
ANY OTHER SITE PLAN RELATED QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO PHIL? I, I ONLY, ONLY BECAUSE YEAH, I'M SORRY.
FORGIVE MY CURIOSITY, BUT WHAT DO PEOPLE EAT FOR BREAKFAST AT CHICK-FIL-A AT SIX 30 IN THE MORNING? YOU DON'T, I HONESTLY LOVE THEIR BREAKFAST.
SO THEY, THEY HAVE REGULAR B BREAKFAST SANDWICHES.
UM, SO THEY HAVE A FULL OF BREAKFAST MENU.
AND ACTUALLY YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CHICKEN THOUGH.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CHICKEN.
YES, YOU CAN GET YOUR SAUSAGE, EGG, AND CHEESE ON A, ON A BAGEL.
UM, AM I JUST BECAUSE YOU TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU SAID, UM, YOU'LL HAVE A FULL TEAM FOR THE GRAND OPENING, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL CONSIST OF CHICK-FIL-A EMPLOYEES, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL HELP THAT'S COMING IN FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO HELP IT, IT TOUCHES ON TRAFFIC SOMEWHAT, BUT IT'S ALSO OPERATIONS? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO INCLUDED IN OUR APPLICATION MATERIALS, THERE'S A FULL, UM, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THAT'S KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE, UH, TOOLS THAT CHICK-FIL-A HAS TO USE TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.
SO IN ADDITION TO FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHO ARE EXPERIENCED OPENING STORES AND RUNNING AND MANAGING STORES WHO WILL FLY IN AND, AND, UM, STAY LOCALLY IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THOSE TWO FOUR WEEKS AS NEEDED, THEY'LL ALSO PARTNER WITH THE TOWN AND LOCAL, UH, POLICE ENFORCEMENT TO, UH, SUPPORT AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
SO THAT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTS WHERE ADDITIONAL, UH, OFF-DUTY COPS OR POLICE CON POLICE CONTROL, UM, ARE GONNA BE NECESSARY TO HELP MONITOR WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND, AND PHIL CAN GET MORE INTO THAT IN HIS PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, I GET, I THINK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS RELATED TO OPERATIONS AND THE TRAFFIC.
UM, THINKING ABOUT YOUR FOOD RIDE SHARE OPERATIONS LIKE UBER EATS, DOORDASH, IS THERE A DESIGNATED PROCESS WITHIN CHICK-FIL-A THAT WOULD, THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES? AND THEN, UH, MY QUESTION REGARDING THE IMPACT OF THAT ON THE, THE TRAFFIC? YES.
UH, THEY DO HAVE A DESIGNATED PROCESS FOR THAT, FOR A THIRD ORDER, UM, THIRD PARTY ORDERS AND DELIVERIES.
UH, THERE IS AN EXTRA COUNTER SPACE INSIDE THAT THOSE, UM, MEALS WILL BE STATIONED FOR THOSE FOLKS TO COME IN AND GRAB THOSE MEALS AND CARRY 'EM TO GO.
UH, THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN ON AND OFF THAT SERVICE.
SO OFTENTIMES WHAT WE SEE IS, UM, THE OPERATORS WILL ACTUALLY TURN OFF THE THIRD PARTY DELIVERIES DURING GRAND OPENING TO TRY TO FOCUS ON, UH, SERVING THE CUSTOMERS WHO ARE THERE AND, UH, DURING PEAK TIME.
SO THEY HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TOO, AS NEEDED.
SO TO CONFIRM, THEN FOR RIDESHARE PICKUPS, THEY HAVE TO PARK AND COME IN SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE DRIVE THROUGH TO PICK UP.
SO AS, UH, IT'S CURRENTLY INTENDED THERE, THE, UH, RIDESHARE WOULD PARK AND PICK UP, THEY ARE ROLLING OUT NEW, UH, SYSTEMS WHERE IF THE THIRD PARTY SALES BECOMES, I'LL SAY 30% OF THE BUSINESS OR MORE, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO DESIGNATE ONE OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANES TO THAT THIRD PARTY.
THEY ARE TESTING THAT OUT AT OTHER MARKETS RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UM, THAT WOULD ONLY BE IF THE THIRD PARTY SALES OVERSHADOWED YOUR DRIVE THROUGH SALES.
YOU GOOD? YEAH, I WAS JUST, I THOUGHT THE SNEEZE ON EVERYBODY RIGHT HERE, THAT REACH,
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I'LL JUST, YES.SO IN MR. GREELEY, IN CONNECTION, YOU'RE PROBABLY PLANNING TO DO THIS, BUT IN CONNECTION WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS EXHIBITS AND DISPLAY THOSE.
PHILIP GREELEY WITH COLLIER'S ENGINEERING AND DESIGN.
WE ARE THE PROJECT TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
UH, WE PREPARED THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, UH, THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS AND, UH, THE GRAND OPENING TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE IN, UH, THE ORDER OF, UH, FOCUSED ON REALLY THE, THE, THE GRAND OPENING TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
SO THE, THE WAY THAT THIS SITE IS DESIGNED, AS TIM INDICATED, WE HAVE THE DUAL DRIVE-THROUGH, WHICH IS ISOLATED FROM THE REST OF THE PARKING AREAS AND THE PEDESTRIAN AREAS DURING.
AND, AND THAT STACKING AREA, UH, HAS A CAPACITY OF AROUND 33 VEHICLES, WHICH MEETS BASED ON THE SURVEYS THAT WE'VE DONE AT EIGHT OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES, THE PEAK, UH, STACKING THAT, THAT OCCURS AT THOSE FACILITIES.
HOWEVER, DURING THE GRAND OPENING PERIOD, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS A SURGE EFFECT AND THAT SURGE EFFECT CAN LAST ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO TWO TO THREE WEEKS.
AND IN ORDER TO MANAGE THAT, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE GRAND OPENING TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AND THAT'S, AS TIM INDICATED, WHERE, UH, EMPLOYEES, UH, TEAM MEMBERS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE IN MANAGING THE TRAFFIC COME IN AND TRAIN THE LOCAL EMPLOYEES AND ASSIST WITH THAT, UH, OPERATION.
SO WE HAVE IN THE GRAND OPENING MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH WE REVIEWED WITH THE TOWNS TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT WAS REVISED IN OCTOBER AFTER THE WHITE PLAINS, UH, MADE A DECISION THAT THEY DID NOT WANT ANYTHING OTHER THAN TEAM MEMBERS TO USE THEIR LOT.
SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS A STACKING PLAN AND, UH, WE HAVE DESIGNATED AREAS THAT ARE MAPPED OUT IN THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
NOW, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS FOR GRAND OPENING PERIODS, BUT ALSO IF THERE'S A SURGE, A SPECIAL EVENT GOING ON AT COUNTY CENTER, IT'S KEPT ON SITE AND IT WILL BE USED TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC, UH, IS SPELLED OUT IN THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN 30 DAYS PRIOR TO OPENING.
WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE TOWNS CONSULTANT, UH, TO GO OVER THE PLAN, MAKE ANY FINE, UH, LAST MINUTE CHANGES.
UH, AS PART OF THE PLAN CHICK-FIL-A WILL PAY FOR, UH, UH, OFF-DUTY, UH, POLICE, UH, FROM, UH, GREENBURG.
UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH JUST LOCALLY EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY OF YONKERS DURING THEIR GRAND OPENING PHASE.
UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS INVOLVED AND THEY ACTUALLY MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS ON THE SPOT TO THE GRAND OPENING PLAN THAT HAD BEEN DEVELOPED FOR THAT SITE.
SO, UH, AFTER THE CHANGES FROM WHITE PLAINS OF NOT HAVING THAT QUOTE EXTRA LOT FOR, FOR STORAGE, UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANS, UH, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR TOWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
SO WE HAVE AS DISPLAYED ON THIS DRAWING, UH, ONCE THE NORMAL PEAK STACKING REACHES THE POINT LABELED A ON THAT DRAWING, UH, WE, WE HAVE AN AREA WHICH ARE ON THE NORMAL CONDITIONS WOULD BE PARKING SPACES ALONG THE WESTERLY PORTION OF THE SITE THAT'S ANGLED PARKING ONE WAY SYSTEM, UH, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED AND FINE TUNED ACTUALLY THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND THAT AREA, UH, DURING THE GRAND OPENING PERIOD WOULD BE CONNED OFF.
SO PEOPLE COMING TO THE SITE WOULD NOT PARK IN THOSE SPACES DURING THE GRAND OPENING PLAN.
IT WOULD BE USED FOR EXTRA VEHICLE STACKING, AND WE CAN PROVIDE, UH, TWO LANES OF STACKING THERE IN THAT AREA.
UH, WHEN THE STACK WOULD REACH UP TO THE POINT LABELED B, UM, THEN WE WOULD, UH, EXTEND THE STACKING.
SO THIS, I THINK IS EXHIBIT ONE OR TWO, CHARLIE, DOES IT SHOW ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT? I THINK? YEAH.
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THAT PLAN THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE STACKING FOR 41 VEHICLES.IT'S THE NORMAL 33 PLUS THOSE ADDITIONAL SPACES, UH, SHOWN ON THE PLAN.
WE WOULD THEN GO TO, UH, EXHIBIT TWO AND THE AREA WHERE THE CONES ARE PLACED ONTO THIS EXHIBIT ARE ACTUALLY, UH, PAINTED ON THE PAVEMENT SO THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO PLACE THOSE CONES IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT AREA.
UNDER THIS PLAN, WE DEVELOPED A THIRD STACKING AREA.
SO YOU HAVE THREE LANES OF STACKING ALONG THAT WESTERLY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALLOW THE STACKING TO EXTEND BACK TO THE, UH, DRIVEWAY AT OLD SKO ROAD.
AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THAT DRIVEWAY LOCATION, UH, ON THIS SITE PLAN IS ACTUALLY SHIFTED AWAY FROM WHERE THE, THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS TODAY TO THE SITE.
THE, THE DRIVEWAY IS SHIFTED FURTHER NORTH AWAY FROM THE SITE.
SO JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT REPRESENTS THE FUTURE CONDITION OF THAT DRIVEWAY.
UM, UNDER THIS PLAN, I BELIEVE WE HAVE 55 SPACES FOR STACKING, I BELIEVE IS THE, THE NUMBER.
AND, UM, WHAT WE FOUND AT THE YONKERS FACILITY DURING THE GRAND OPENING, AND THEY DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO STACK 55 CARS ON THE SITE.
UH, SO WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID ACTUALLY, UH, HAD THE VEHICLES QUEUE ALONG THE PARKING LANE OF CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
AND THAT WENT ON FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
WE WENT BACK AND MADE OBSERVATIONS, WHICH ARE ALL REPORTED TO IN OUR OCTOBER 9TH LETTER TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND WE FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT INITIAL GRAND OPENING, THAT THINGS STABILIZED AND WENT TO WHAT WE WOULD CALL NORMAL CONDITIONS.
NOW DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, THE, UH, WALK-IN FACILITY, UH, AT, UH, THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER ALSO OPENED, UH, IN AUGUST.
SO THAT, UH, WAS ANOTHER VARIABLE THAT CAME INTO PLAY THERE.
SO, UM, DURING THE PEAK, INCLUDING THE VEHICLES THAT WERE STACKING ON CENTRAL PARK AVENUE IN YONKERS, UH, THE MAXIMUM WE OBSERVED WAS AROUND 50 VEHICLES.
I THINK IT WAS 52 ON ONE DAY, UH, WHICH WE HAVE ON THIS PLAN 55 VEHICLE STACKING THE, UH, PLAN IN TERMS OF THE, UH, ONSITE, UH, CONTROL CAN BE DONE BY TEAM MEMBERS.
ANYTHING RELATED TO THE DRIVEWAYS OF OR OFFSITE ARE COORDINATED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE POLICE BECAUSE THE TEAM MEMBERS CAN'T GO INTO THE ROADWAY.
THEY CAN ONLY WORK ON THE SITE.
THE NEXT EXHIBIT IS IF THE QUEUE STARTS TO DEVELOP TO GET TO THAT AREA LABELED C ON THIS PLAN, THEN THE, UH, OLD KENCO ROAD DRIVEWAY WOULD BE CONED OFF AGAIN AT THE DIRECTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND VEHICLES WOULD BE DIRECTED TO, UH, TRAVEL TOWARDS THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND THEN BACK TO COUNTY CENTER ROAD TO ENTER THE SITE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY FOR GRAND OPENING PERIOD.
AND, AND WHAT WE SAW IN YONKERS DIDN'T EVEN REACH THIS, THIS NEED.
AND WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ON SITE STACKING.
SO WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THE WHITE PLAINS LOT, WE CAN, UH, STACK ON THIS PROPERTY NOW UP TO 67 VEHICLES.
THERE'S 64 SHOWN ON THIS PLAN.
AND IF WE HAD TO, WE COULD STACK MORE VEHICLES ON THE NEXT VERSION OF THIS PLAN, WHICH HAS, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL VEHICLES ON THE, ON THE NORTHLY PORTION.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES.
IF I'M THE 67TH VEHICLE THERE YES.
HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE ME TO GET MY FOOD AND GET OUT OF THERE? OKAY.
FROM THE TIME I GET IN THE QUEUE.
DID, DID GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO THAT AND, AND CHICK-FIL-A HAS NOW IMPLEMENTED ONCE YOU GET TO AROUND 40 VEHICLES, UM, IT'S FASTER TO PARK AND GO IN AND GET YOUR FOOD.
SO THEY ACTUALLY CAN, IF YOU ARE ORDERING ON YOUR APP, IT'LL TELL YOU, YOU BETTER OFF PARK, GO AND PICK UP AND YOU'LL BE OUTTA HERE FASTER THAN, UH, SO BA BASED ON EXPERIENCE, WHEN YOU GET TO THAT 35 VEHICLES IN THE QUEUE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER OF 15 TO 18, 20 MINUTES FROM THE TIME YOU GET IN THAT QUEUE TO GET THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
SO, SO YOU HAVE 60 CARS THERE FOR UPWARDS OF 20 MINUTES AND, AND IT, AND THE, AND THE QUEUE IS CONSTANTLY MOVING.
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ASSUMES THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ADDING TO THAT QUEUE CONSTANTLY AS IT DISSIPATES BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO, UH, LANES EXITING FROM THE PROPERTY.SO CAN YOU TAKE ME THROUGH THE, MICHAEL DOESN'T WANT TO WAIT AND HE WANTS TO GET OUT OF THE MM-HMM.
SO, SO ONCE YOU ENTER THE CIRCULAR AREA AROUND THE BUILDING, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE.
YOU'RE THERE, UM, YOU SEE THAT, THAT POINT RIGHT THERE, YOU HAVE, YOU'RE AT THE POINT OF NO RETURN.
IF YOU WERE IN THAT OUTSIDE QUEUE, THERE ARE TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THAT AREA.
AND IF YOU WANTED TO LEAVE THE QUEUE, THERE'S STILL DRIVE VI IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING THERE WHERE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CIRCULATE OUT AND EXIT TO THE DRIVEWAY.
SO ONCE YOU COMMIT AND YOU'RE IN INTO THE QUOTE 33, UH, VEHICLE QUEUE, YOU'RE IN THERE FOR THE DURATION OF PICKING UP YOUR MEAL.
IS THAT NORMAL THAT A PERSON HAS NO ABILITY TO EXIT? SO, SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXIT WHAT HAPPENS AND, AND YOU'LL SEE IN OPERATIONS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT DUAL QUEUE, THERE, UH, TEAM MEMBERS ARE TAKING YOUR ORDERS AND ACTUALLY DELIVERING.
IF FOR SOME REASON, LET'S, LET'S SAY A VEHICLE BROKE DOWN IN ONE OF THE LANES, THEN THE, THE TEAM MEMBERS DIRECT TRAFFIC AROUND.
IF SOMEONE DID HAVE TO LEAVE, YOU KNOW, AS THE ORDERS ARE PICKED UP AND, AND THE FRONT VEHICLES ARE LEAVING, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND YOU'LL SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, UH, UNDER, UH, THE OPERATION, HAVING THOSE TWO LANES AND THE STRIPED AREA IN BETWEEN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A STRIPED AREA THAT SEPARATES THE TWO LANES.
THERE'S ROOM TO MANEUVER IF YOU HAD TO GET OUT OF THAT AREA.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, ONCE YOU'RE INTO THE, THE AREA APPROACHING THE CANOPY, YOU'RE IN THAT PORTION OF THE QUEUE IN THE AREA BEHIND THAT, BEYOND THE 33 VEHICLES, YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE OUT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE TEAM MEMBERS TO GET INTO THE DRIVE AISLE.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MORE, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT, ANYTHING THAT HE SPOKE ON UP TO THIS POINT? OKAY.
AND THEN THE POLICE CONTROL WOULD O WOULD BE AT ALL KENCO ROAD DRIVEWAY AS WELL AS AT COUNTY CENTER DRIVEWAY.
SO IF, IF THE QUEUE EVER DID DEVELOP UP TO THAT 60 CAR QUEUE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, BUT, UM, THE POLICE WOULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD ALLOW VEHICLES TO STILL ENTER THE SITE OR THEY WOULD DIRECT THEM TO LEAVE AND COME BACK AT A LATER TIME.
OR THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY WANTED TO PARK, THEY COULD STILL GET ACCESS TO SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES.
SO THAT'S ALL SPELLED OUT IN THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
UH, THE PLAN IS SOMEWHAT FLUID IN TERMS OF ADJUSTING TO THE ACTUAL SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S CONE PLACEMENT.
UM, THIS PLAN STILL ALLOWS PEOPLE TO EXIT FROM THOSE ANGLED PARKING SPACES ON THE INSIDE OF THAT DRIVE AISLE.
UM, THE TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE ALONG THAT AREA, CONTROLLING THE PEOPLE, UH, GETTING INTO THE QUEUE, UH, WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THE CONES TO ALLOW VEHICLES IF THEY WERE EXITING FROM THOSE SPACES.
UH, AGAIN, THIS PLAN, WE FINE TUNED, WE WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT HAS APPROVED THIS, THIS PLAN.
AND IT WOULD BE KEPT ON SITE NOT ONLY FOR GRAND OPENING, BUT IF THERE IS SPECIAL EVENTS, YOU KNOW, GRADUATION AT COUNTY CENTER OR THE WESTCHESTER KNICKS HAVE A BIG GAME, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
THE, UH, COUNTY, UH, BASKETBALL PLAYOFFS.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S ALL SPELLED OUT AND WOULD BE A CONDITION OF ANY APPROVALS, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE GRAND OPENING.
AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT, I'M GONNA SWITCH TO SOME OF THE OFFSITE AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING DONE IN, IN REGARDS TO THE SPECIAL EVENTS YES.
IS IT A PRE-PLANNING TO IMPLEMENT THIS, UM, GRAND OPENING PLAN AND NOT WE CORRECT.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, LUCKILY THE, THE EVENTS THAT OCCUR THERE, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS.
YOU KNOW, YOU, THERE'S A, THERE'S SCHEDULE FOR THE WESTCHESTER KNICKS.
WE KNOW WHEN THE GRADUATIONS ARE.
SO THAT'S ALL COORDINATED AND THE OPERATOR AND CHICK-FIL-A, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION.
AND AGAIN, IT'S SPELLED OUT IN, IN THE DOCUMENT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A TRAFFIC PLAN, UH, THAT'S LEFT ON SITE.
SO I'M, I'M ASSUMING IT'S LIKE AN OPERATIONS MANUAL? IT'S A MANUAL, YES.
UM, BUT THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
SO WHEN IS THAT CALL MADE? SO, AS YOU SAID, A LOT OF THINGS WE KNOW,
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WE KNOW WHEN THE GRADUATION ARE, WE KNOW WHEN, UM, THE WESTCHESTER NICKS ARE PLAYING, BUT WHEN DO YOU MAKE THAT CALL THAT WE NEED, UM, ADDITIONAL PEOPLE? SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S COORDINATED WITH THE, WITH THE TOWN AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT KNOWING WHEN THOSE EVENTS ARE, THE PLAN CAN BE SET UP.SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE AREAS THAT ARE CONED OFF THE OPERATOR WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION BASED ON HIS ANTICIPATION OF WHAT THE LOADING WOULD BE AND TO HAVE THE TEAM MEMBERS AVAILABLE TO CONTROL THE ONSITE, THE COORDINATION WITH THE TOWN WOULD BE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ON HAND IF NEEDED DURING THOSE EVENTS, UM, TO CONTROL THE DRIVEWAYS.
AND ALSO, UM, REGARDING THE THIRD PARTY DELIVERY, WOULD THEY BE CONSI? SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COME UP, WHETHER IT'S A SMALL CAR OR A SCOOTER.
SO WOULD THEY BE CONSIDERED AN EMPLOYEE FOR THE WHITE PLAIN SIDE OF PARKING? THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO INTO THAT LOT.
AND THE, THE TRAFFIC GENERATION NUMBERS THAT WE ANALYZE INCLUDE ALL OF THE TRIPS TO THE SITE, NOT JUST PEOPLE GOING TO THE DRIVE THROUGH THOSE THIRD PARTIES.
SO THE SURVEYS THAT WE HAD DONE HAD THESE OPERATIONS, AND IT'S GONNA VARY LOCATION TO LOCATION, BUT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE, UH, TRAFFIC DESIGN NUMBERS TO PICK UP TO, TO PARK AND PICK UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING, AND I'D LIKE TO JUST GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY ON THE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND WITH THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF TARRYTOWN ROAD AND OLD SCO AND AQUEDUCT IS ACTUALLY PART, IT'S A, IT'S A-A-D-O-T CONTROLLED SIGNAL, HOWEVER, IT'S PART OF THE, UH, ADAPTIVE SYSTEM FOR THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS.
THIS IS INCLUDED IN THAT IT HADN'T BEEN FUNCTIONING, UH, BECAUSE OF LACK OF EQUIPMENT AND, AND OTHER ISSUES.
UH, BUT WE'VE COORDINATED THAT WITH BOTH DOT AND WITH THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS.
UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY REPLACING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AT THIS POINT.
UH, THE SPAN WIRE AND THE SIGNAL POLES THAT ARE THERE ARE QUITE OLD.
UH, WE HAD AN ISSUE OR THE STATE HAD AN ISSUE EXPERIENCED, UH, AT THE SIGNAL TO THE EAST OF THIS LOCATION.
UH, SO WE ARE REPLACING THE ENTIRE SIGNAL SYSTEM.
ALSO, AS PART OF THAT UPGRADE, THE VIDEO DETECTION IS BEING, UH, REPLACED AND UPDATED TO CURRENT STANDARDS AND ALL OF THE, UH, SIDEWALKS AS PART OF THE WIDENING ALONG ALL KENCO ROAD, UH, WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS TO SATISFY A DA COMPLIANCE.
THEY'RE, UH, MORE STRINGENT THAN WHEN A LOT OF THESE SIDEWALKS WENT IN.
SO WE HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT THAT AND, UH, REPLACE THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN INDICATIONS.
UH, WHERE WE ARE WIDENING ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS DRAWING, WE ARE WIDENING OLD KENSICO ROAD ALONG THE SITE FRONTAGE TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL SOUTHBOUND LANE.
RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING THAT AREA, THERE'S A TWO LANE APPROACH TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
WE ARE WIDENING IT SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE RIGHT TURN LANE, A SINGLE THROUGH LANE, AND A SEPARATE LEFT TURN LANE THAT WIDENING EXTENDS ALONG OUR FRONTAGE ALL THE WAY UP TO PAST THE RELOCATED DRIVEWAY AND WOULD PROVIDE, UH, ADDITIONAL WIDTH ALONG THAT WHOLE STRETCH OF ROADWAY.
THE SIDEWALK WOULD ALSO BE RECONSTRUCTED, OF COURSE, AND AS I INDICATED BEFORE, THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IN OLD KENCO ROAD IS BEING CLOSED AND SHIFTED FURTHER NORTH, CLOSER TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
UH, IN ADDITION, AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING, UH, STRIPING AND SIGNING IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE OBSERVE THAT, UH, SOME VEHICLES DON'T OBEY THE CURRENT SIGNING.
UH, SOME VEHICLES GET CONFUSED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF STRIPING AND AND SIGNING.
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PLAN, UH, INDICATES THE NEW STRIPING, THE NEW SIGNING IN ORDER TO, UH, CONTROL TRAFFIC FLOW BETTER AT THAT INTERSECTION.UH, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE, THE KEY POINTS WE'RE WELL ALONG IN THE PERMIT PROCESS WITH NEW YORK STATE DOT.
THEY'VE APPROVED THE BOX DESIGN, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO SIGNAL POLLS.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE FOUR SIGNAL POLLS.
UM, AND WE'RE IN THE PERMIT PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, FINALIZING ALL OF THAT.
SO, SO, SORRY, THE PERMIT PROCESS OF APPROVING THE, THE OVERALL SIGNAL IMPROVEMENT? YES.
AT ALL THE SIDEWALKS AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS? YES.
I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE SIGNAL IMPROVEMENT RELATED TO THE PEAK HOURS.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AS FAR AS, I THINK I READ THAT THE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO WORD IT, BUT CHANGE BASED ON TRAFFIC OF SCHOOLS AND I GUESS WORK HOURS.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, AS PART, AS PART OF THIS SIGNAL REPLACEMENT, THE VIDEO DETECTION THAT IS BEING INSTALLED HERE ALLOWS THE SIGNAL TO ADJUST TO INDIVIDUAL CYCLES.
IT'S REFERRED TO AS AN ADAPTIVE SYSTEM.
THE SYSTEM THAT WAS THERE WAS KIND OF THE FIRST VERSION OF THAT, BUT IT WASN'T FUNCTIONING BECAUSE THE DETECTION WAS NOT FUNCTIONING AT THE INTERSECTION.
SO AS PART OF THIS, WE ARE INSTALLING NEW VIDEO DETECTION, WHICH IS WHAT CURRENT TECHNOLOGY THAT THE STATE AND THE STATE IS USING.
AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO ADJUST TO INDIVIDUAL CYCLES WITHIN THE HOUR UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND UP UNTIL RECENTLY, IT WAS OPERATING ON A FIXED TIME.
IT WAS ONLY GIVING, I FORGET THE EXACT NUMBER OF SECONDS TO, LET'S SAY THE OLD KENCO ROAD APPROACH.
AND THAT, AND THE ADUC APPROACH ARE WHAT THEY CALL A SPLIT PHASE.
UM, NOW THAT SYSTEM WILL BE ABLE TO REACT TO INDIVIDUAL CYCLE LENGTHS.
SO IF YOU GET A PEAK DEMAND, YOU KNOW, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A SURGE, IT CAN ADJUST TO THAT.
NOW, THE, UH, ONE 19, THE TARRYTOWN ROAD, CARTER IS THE PRIMARY CARTER, BUT IT STILL REACTS TO THE SIDE APPROACHES IN THIS CASE BEING AQUEDUCT OR OLD KENCO.
AND THE ADDED LANE WILL INCREASE THE CAPACITY.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANTED TO, IF YOU WERE LEAVING FROM THAT AREA AND FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YOU WANTED TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN ONTO, UH, TARRYTOWN ROAD, YOU KNOW, WAS HEADING SOUTHBOUND THERE AND SOMEBODY WAS THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO GO THROUGH, YOU WERE, YOU'RE STUCK.
SO NOW YOU HAVE A LANE FOR RIGHT TURNS THROUGH MOVEMENTS AND LEFT TURNS.
READY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM, UM, THE TOWNS TRAFFIC CONSULTING.
MR. CANNING, MR. CANNINGS ON ZOOM THIS EVENING.
SO I'VE BEEN LISTENING ATTENTIVELY.
GREENY HAS TOUCHED ON, UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE IMPORTANT ASPECTS.
IT IS WRITTEN UP PRETTY EXTENSIVELY BASED ON THE MOST RECENT MATERIALS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, WHICH PRIMARILY WAS A REVIEW OF OPERATIONS AT THE YONKERS, UH, CHICK-FIL-A FACILITY WHEN IT OPENED, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THEIR GOAL PLAN WAS FINISHED.
UH, THE DATA INDICATES THAT THE, UH, FREEBURG CHICK-FIL-A PLAN SHOULD FUNCTION WITHOUT ANY ISSUES UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS.
ALL OF THE DATA POINTS TO THAT.
UM, THE PLAN THAT THEY, GOAL PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE FOR WHEN THEY OPEN, AND ALSO IF THEY HAVE OTHER BUSY TIMES, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE DISCUSSED OR YOU'VE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF BUSIER TIMES WITH EVENTS AT THE COUNTY CENTER, UH, THE GO TIME.
UH, THE GO PLAN HAS, UM, FEATURES BUILT INTO IT TO TRY AND, UH, ADDRESS THE VARIOUS ASPECTS OF INCREASED ACTIVITY AS THEY HAPPEN.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, WHEN TO DIRECT OR SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO PARK AND WALK IN INSTEAD OF
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ADDING TO THE DRIVE THROUGH QUEUE, UH, HAVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOTIFIED AND PRESENT DURING THE OPENING PERIOD SO THAT IF THERE IS AN UNEXPECTED RUSH AT THIS THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT, UM, TRAFFIC SAFETY WAS MAINTAINED.UM, IT IS ALSO, UH, IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERSECTION, UH, REPRESENT A CONSIDERABLE INCREASE IN CAPACITY OF THE INTERSECTION, UH, BOTH THE PHYSICAL LEFT TURN LANE AND ALSO THE, UH, FIXING THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNAL.
UH, I, I DO THINK THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT UP, UH, A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS ON THIS.
GRADY HAS ANSWERED, MOST OF THEM I'VE REVIEWED, REVIEWED THE MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, THOROUGHLY EACH TIME NEW MATERIALS ARE SUBMITTED.
I'VE BEEN WATCHING WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN YONKERS AND WHAT HAPPENED AT THE OTHER STORES THAT THEY PROVIDED INFORMATION ON.
AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS A GOOD PLAN IN PLACE.
SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE, BUT THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT AT THIS PAGE.
UH, FINAL QUESTION FOR ME WOULD BE, UM, YOU JUST REMINDED ME THAT THERE IS EXISTING, UM, CONSTRUCTION OR WORK HAPPENING THERE ON, I THINK THAT'S COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
DO WE, DO WE, DO WE ANTICIPATE IF THERE'S ANY CONSTRUCTION ON THE ROAD IN THE FUTURE THAT THIS WOULD IMPACT THE, THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO DO.
WOULD IT BE THIS, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS CALLING? A GRAND OPENING? GRAND OPENING PLAN? YEAH.
WOULD, WOULD IT, WOULD THAT BE TRIGGERED? SO, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WILL BE MAKING, OKAY.
THERE'S GONNA BE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ON OLD KENCO ROAD.
UH, THE TIMES WHEN THAT CONSTRUCTION CAN TAKE PLACE ARE CONTROLLED BY THE STATE.
SO THERE'S CERTAIN HOURS THAT WE CAN'T WORK.
WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN TRAFFIC FLOW DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION.
THE WIDENING IS BEING DONE ON OUR SIDE OF OLD KENCO ROAD, SO A GOOD PORTION OF THE WORK CAN BE DONE AND MAINTAIN THE CURRENT TRAFFIC FLOW THAT'S THERE.
UH, DURING ANY OTHER, WHETHER IT'S EMERGENCY CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION, WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THEIR NORMAL CONDITIONS.
YOU KNOW, IF FOR SOME REASON ONE OF THE ROADS WAS TEMPORARILY CLOSED DOWN FOR WATER OR SEWER WORK, WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT ACCORDINGLY, I THINK.
SO THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN A PLAN OR ANYTHING.
AND THEN, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION AND BEYOND, THOSE ARE TO BE CARRIED OUT PRIOR TO THE GRAND OPENING OF THE FACILITY? YES.
THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE OPENING SO THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE CONSTRUCTED AND IN PLACE.
THANK YOU, MR. CAN THANK YOU, JOE.
I THINK WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC.
WE'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, PLEASE APPROACH TODAY'S AND LET US KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
DID YOU HAVE, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PRINT THIS, BUT I WANNA, UM, SO I SHOULD JUST PASS IT ALONG DOWN THE LINE.
UH, YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF, NAME AND ADDRESS.
THAT'S THE PICTURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE FULTON PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO WE OBJECTED TO THIS PLAN IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF VARIANCES THAT WERE BEING REQUESTED AND HOW THE, THE PROPERTY IS TOO SMALL FOR THE SIZE OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
SO WE WERE DISTURBED THAT THE TOWN PASSED A TREE REMOVAL REPLACEMENT LAW, AND THESE GUYS ARE REMOVING TREES.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR LANDSCAPING WAIVERS, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THEY KEEP SAYING THAT THE PROPERTY IS ABANDONED.
IT'S NOT REALLY ABANDONED, IT'S JUST NOT BEING USED.
AND WHAT THEY FAILED TO, TO DISCUSS IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO BUSINESS IN THE BUILDING OR ON THE PROPERTY, IT WAS A RETAIL
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SITUATION.SO YOU HAD PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, BUT NOT AT A HEAVY RATE.
AND WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE STACKING OF CARS VIOLATES THE COUNTY'S ANTI-IDLING LAW AND HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I GOT A PROBLEM JUST WITH THAT RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
UM, THEY SAID THAT THEY DID EXTENSIVE COORDINATION ABOUT WHERE TO PUT THE DUMPSTERS AND THE COVERING AROUND IT.
THEY NEVER CAME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ASKED US WHAT WE WANTED, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEIR GARBAGE FACING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MATTER BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT ISN'T WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WANT, AND THE DEVELOPERS GET WHAT THEY WANT IN GREENBURG.
SO I, I PASSED AROUND THAT PICTURE.
THAT'S A NORMAL RAINSTORM, NOT A HUNDRED YEAR OR 500 YEAR STORM.
THAT'S WITHOUT CHICK-FIL-A COMING IN.
AND EVEN THOUGH THEY SAID THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A MINOR PERCENTAGE OF INCREASED PERVIOUS SPACE, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO ABSORB AND TO TAKE OVER THE AMOUNT OF STORM WATER WE GET IN A REGULAR STORM.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T GET FLOODED, YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
I ALSO HAVE PICTURES IN THERE.
I'M NOT GONNA BORE YOU WITH SHOWING YOU ALL MY PICTURES, BUT I STAND NEXT TO MY NEIGHBOR'S FENCE.
THE FENCE IS THIS HIGH TO ME, RIGHT? THAT'S THE TOP OF THE FENCE.
THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS HOW HIGH THE WATER GOES IN MY BACKYARD, WHICH IS NINE FEET.
IT ALSO GOES TO NINE FEET IN MY BASEMENT, BECAUSE WITH THAT AMOUNT OF WATER, IT CAN'T BE CONTROLLED.
SO I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WHEN WHEN IT RAINS, IT FLOODS, UH, OR, OR THE HOUSES AND THE PROPERTIES FLOOD.
BUT WE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO NOW DEAL WITH DEBRIS.
UM, THE RUNOFF FROM OILS AND GAS AND, AND THINGS SPILLED IN THE ROADS.
UH, AND THAT GETS INTO NOT ONLY OUR YARDS, BUT INTO THE HOUSES.
SO I'M, I'M ASKING YOU, WHAT'S OUR RECOURSE? YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE THIS.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S A DONE DEAL.
SO THE DEVELOPERS GET WHAT THEY WANT.
AND IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE ARE LIFELONG TAXPAYERS AND HAVE BEEN HERE SUPPORTING THE TOWN, BUT THE TOWN'S NOT SUPPORTING US.
AND THEY TALKED ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS AND COORDINATING WITH THE GREENBURG POLICE, WHO, WHO HAPPENED TO BE UNDERSTAFFED, BY THE WAY.
AND WHEN WE HAD COVID, THERE WERE NO EVENTS AT THE COUNTY CENTER FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
NOW THE COVID IS GONE, OR AT LEAST NOT A CONCERN.
EVERY WEEKEND AND AT NIGHT, THERE ARE EVENTS AT THE COUNTY CENTER.
SO MY FEAR AND MY NEIGHBOR'S FEARS IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST THE GRAND OPENING AND THEY'VE COORDINATED WITH EVERYBODY BUT US.
SO WE HAVE ONE WAY IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE ADAPT, ADAPTIVE, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHTS SYSTEM.
WE WERE TOLD WHEN IT WAS PUT IN INITIALLY THAT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD, THREE CARS.
SO THIS NEW SYSTEM IS GONNA BE ADAPTIVE.
AND IF IT, IF THEY DETERMINE THAT IT'S GONNA BE THREE CARS, IT'LL BE THREE CARS, AND IF IT'LL ADAPT AND MAYBE BE FOUR CARS.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DURING PEAK HOURS IS SCHOOL BUSES CAN'T MAKE A RIGHT ON RED.
SO IF YOU'RE BEHIND A SCHOOL BUS, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE, ESPECIALLY AT THREE O'CLOCK WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEPLACE.
BUT IF YOU'RE BEHIND A SCHOOL BUS, YOU'RE NOT MAKING THAT RIGHT TURN OR GOING STRAIGHT UNTIL THAT BUS MOVES.
AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A TON OF SCHOOL BUSES COMING THROUGH.
THEY COME THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE HILLSIDE SCHOOL, THEY COME THROUGH BECAUSE OF MOHAWK SCHOOL.
AND WHEN THE EVENTS ARE GOING ON AT THE COUNTY CENTER, AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE BUSED IN FOR A GAME OR, YOU KNOW, GAME, MULTIPLE GAMES, PLAYOFFS, THINGS LIKE THAT COUNTY CENTER ROAD ON BOTH SIDES, THEIR SIDE AND ACROSS THE STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE IS LINED WITH BUSES.
OLD KENSICO ROAD PICTURE, THE WATER THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU WITH CARS PARKED DOWN PAST MY HOUSE.
MY HOUSE IS THE FOURTH HOUSE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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THEY CAN TELL, TELL YOU, AND IT WON'T MATTER TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PARKED THERE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE, OR IN PARTICULAR DRIVE OUT OF THERE.SO I HAD A GUY, I WAS COMING OUTTA MY DRIVEWAY, AND A GUY STOPPED SHORT AND BLEW THE HORN AT ME AND SAID, I HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND MY ANSWER WAS, I LIVE HERE, AND WE KEEP TURNING TO YOU TO HELP US STOP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM BEING SCREWED.
SO THE STACKED CARS HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE, WHETHER THEY'RE COMING IN AND THEY'RE PACKING THEM UNDER THE AWNING OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY HAVE, BUT ONCE THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE COMING OUT ONTO OLD CANCER CO ROAD, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SHOT TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I'D ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER, BUT I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA MATTER.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT RESPOND.
AFTER ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPOSAL OF CHICK-FIL-A ONCE ON ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
DID YOU KNOW WESTCHESTER COUNTY HAS FAILING GRADES IN AIR QUALITY? ADDING A HIGH TRAFFIC DRIVE THROUGH SYSTEM WILL WORSEN THE CRISIS.
WE DON'T NEED IDLING CARS SPEWING, UM, POLLUTION INTO THE AIR.
OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH DEPENDS ON CLEAN AIR, NOT FAST FOOD.
THE NEW YORK GREEN AMENDMENT GUARANTEES OUR RIGHT TO HAVE A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.
AND THIS PROJECT, UM, CONTRADICTS IT.
THE LOSS OF TREES FOR MORE PAVEMENT IS A CONCERN.
THE AIR ABSORB STORM WATER, REDUCE FLOODING, REMOVING THEM RAISES TEMPERATURES, WORSENS, RUNOFF, AND DIMINISH DIMINISHES THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
WHY TRADE? NATURAL SOLUTIONS FOR HARD DRY SERVICES THAT WILL CREATE PROBLEMS TWO, ON TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, THAT THE AREA THAT STRUGGLES THE CON UH, THE AREA ALREADY STRUGGLES WITH CONGESTIONS.
THIS IS COUNTY CENTER ROAD, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE COUNTY CENTER HAS EVENTS.
THE PROJECT WILL ONLY ADD CHAOS, ENDANGER, PEDESTRIANS, AND MAYBE DELAYER EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING TO THEIR DESTINATION.
YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH ABOUT PARKING.
AND CHICK-FIL-A'S REPUT FOR HIGH TRAFFIC WILL STRAIN THIS AREA FURTHER.
HAVE YOU DONE AN UPDATE ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY? ESPECIALLY WHEN 10 COUNTY CENTER ROAD IS NOW A FULL BUILDING AND THEY PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
THERE IS NO PARKING 'CAUSE THEY USE IT FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS.
THREE, NOISE, PRIVACY AND AESTHETICS.
AS A FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH, WE WILL BRING CONSTANT NOISE, IDLING CARS, LOUD SPEAKERS, OUTDOOR DINERS DISRUPTING THE PIECE THAT RESIDENTS MOVED HERE FOR.
BRIGHT LIGHTS FROM THE PARKING LOT WILL SPILL OVER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEGRADING ITS CHARACTER.
MAYBE THE PROJECT, UH, DOESN'T JUST THREATEN OUR WAY OF LIFE.
IT RISKS THE DEVALUING OF OUR LOCAL, UH, REAL ESTATE MARKET.
FULTON PARK HAS LONG BEEN QUIET, A DESIRABLE NEIGHBORHOOD TO LIVE IN.
INTRODUCING A BUSTING FAST FOOD CHAIN WILL CHANGE THE PEACEFUL RESIDENCE AREA TO A NOISY URBAN EXTENSION OF DOWNTOWN WHITE PLAINS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR, FOR POLLUTION AND ODORS.
WHAT PLANS ARE THERE IN PLACE TO MANAGE THE TRASH AND PREVENT ODORS? THE FAST FOOD DUMPSTERS WILL ATTRACT ANIMALS AND, AND BECOME MORE, MORE A SOURCE OF BLOOD.
THIS IS JUST, AND IT'S JUST NOT ABOUT THE SMELL, IT'S ABOUT MAINTAINING THE CLEAN, CLEAN CLEANLINESS AND THE DIGNITY OF OUR NE NEIGHBORHOOD.
FOR MY FINAL, FINAL THOUGHT, THIS PROJECT DOESN'T ALIEN ALIEN,
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OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES VALUES OR THE WELLBEING OF OUR RESIDENTS.I URGE THE BOARD TO PRIORITIZE HEALTH, SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STABILITY OVER A PROFIT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE? IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? IF NOW? IF SO, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.
UM, I'M THE CLOSEST RESIDENT, UH, TO, TO THE, TO THE FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.
I, UH, AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBORS THAT JUST, UH, CAME UP TO THE PODIUM.
THE PARKING SITUATION IS GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BAD IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY CENTER AND ON CERTAIN EVENTS IN THE COUNTY CENTER, I GET LOCKED IN.
I HAVE A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY, I GET BLOCKED IN ON BOTH ENDS, AND THE CARS HAVE TO BE TICKETED OR TOWED AWAY.
AND I CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE WHEN CHICK-FIL-A COMES IN.
NOW ON ANOTHER SUBJECT, UH, THE NIGHT DECK THAT WAS VOTED ON IN OCTOBER, IT WAS AMENDED.
I THINK THERE'S AN ERROR ON THERE, A LEGAL LAW THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AND AMENDED.
I KNOW THE APPLICANT REMOVED ONE OF THE VARIANCES FROM THE ZONING BOARD, UH, THEIR LIGHTING, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT'S MISSING.
THE ONE THAT'S MISSING IS THE OUTDOOR DINING VARIANCE.
AND THERE WAS NO MENTION OF IT IN THE NEG DECK.
NOW, THE ZONING BOARD, FOR SOME REASON, VOTED ON IT WITHOUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
I FEEL AS A LEGALITY, THE NEXT ACT SHOULD MATCH WHAT THE, WHAT THE ZBA VOTED IN BECAUSE THE Z, THE ZBA, HOW IS THE ZBA GOING TO VOTE ON THE OUTDOOR DINING IF THE PLANNING BOARD DIDN'T REFER THAT TO THE ZONING BOARD IN THEIR, IN THEIR NECK DECK? SO I THINK THIS HEARING IS SHOULD BE PUT OFF.
I THINK, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS TO AMEND THE, THE DECISIONS ARE MADE.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS, THAT IS A LEGALITY.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE OVERLOOKED.
UH, GREENBERG HAS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES ON, ON OLD FRONTS.
SO, SO I, I HOPE THE BOARD WILL TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND CONSIDER, UH, PUTTING OVER THIS HEARING TO ANOTHER DAY UNTIL THAT THIS IS REMEDIED.
UM, ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THEIR GO PLAN ON, UM, GRAND OPENING PERIOD, WHICH COULD TAKE UP TO THREE WEEKS TO A MONTH IN TRAFFIC BEING CRAZY.
UH, THEY, BECAUSE THEY CAN NO LONGER USE THE WHITE PLAINS PARKING LOT, THEY DID THIS GO PLAN THAT WOULD CREATE THREE LANES OF DRIVE THROUGH IDLING TO GET INTO TWO LANES.
TO ME, THAT CREATES A BOTTLENECK.
BUT IT ALSO ELIMINATES 14 PARKING SPACES THAT RUN ALONG THE SIDE OF OLD KENSICO.
AND IF YOU COUNT IN THREE, THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC, IT LITERALLY LEAVES NO ROOM 11 FEET OR LESS FOR THE, FOR AN ONCOMING CAR TO GET INTO THE DIAGONAL, BUT INTO THE SLANTED PARKING SPACES, THE ANGLED PARKING SPACES THAT ARE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY'RE 13 ANGLED SPACES ACROSS FROM THE 14 THEY'RE GONNA ELIMINATE FOR GRAND OPENING.
OKAY? THOSE SPACES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED.
THE PE THE DRIVERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANGLE THEMSELVES IN AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BACK OUT.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A VEHICLE TO BE BACKED OUT INTO A LANE ON 11 FEET.
THERE IS NO WAY, ABSOLUTELY NONE.
SO TO ME, THAT DESIGN, THAT GOLD PLAN IS AN ABSOLUTE FLOCK.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISED BY THIS BOARD.
IT IT NEEDS TO BE REVISED BY OUR TRAFFIC MANAGER, OUR TRAFFIC EXPERT.
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THAT MEANS IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, THE 14 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE FOR THE EXTRA LANE, THEN THE 13 THAT THE DRIVERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PULL OUT IN THAT'S 27 SPACES ELIMINATED, THAT LEAVES ANOTHER 12 PLUS ANOTHER TWO, WHICH ARE HANDICAPPED, AND ANOTHER EIGHT THAT ARE CLOSER, THAT ARE LONG COUNTY CENTER ROAD THAT IS NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR A GRAND OPENING.AND, AND THEY, THE APPLICANT'S EVEN MENTIONED IT.
USUALLY THEY, THEY RECOMMEND FOR CUSTOMERS TO PARK.
IF THE DRIVE THROUGH LANES ARE TOO LONG, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOO LONG.
IF THEY'RE DECIDING THAT THEY NEED THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC, THE TWO, THREE LANES OF QUEUING IF TO GET INTO THE TWO LANES THAT HOLD 35 CARS.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT OVER 50 CARS IN THE STACKING LIMITS.
SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED TO PARK, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY PARKING SPACES TO PARK IT.
SO AGAIN, THIS NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.
AND AGAIN, UM, TO REITERATE, UM, THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT ABSOLUTELY THE, THE NECK DECK HAS TO BE TOUCHED ON.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE GREENBERG, UM, PUT INTO A LEGAL LEGALITY OR GOD KNOWS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO BRING A LAWSUIT, THAT THEY'LL USE THAT AS A TECHNICALITY.
I THINK, UH, THINGS NEED TO BE TIDY AND, UM, NOT SLOPPY.
SO, UH, I THANK YOU AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE PUT OVER TO ANOTHER DATE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA LET OUR LEGAL COUNSEL RESPOND REGARDING THE NEXT DECK.
BUT I WAS GONNA WAIT UNTIL THE APPLICANT RESPONDED TO ALL THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS.
SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC STAFF WILL BE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE COMMENTS.
UM, BUT IF YOU COULD, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS.
I'M SURE YOU TOOK NOTES, BUT, UH, YEAH, THERE, THERE'S A FEW THINGS AND I, AND I'LL TOUCH ON THE HIGH POINTS.
UM, AND I'LL CERTAINLY LET YOUR STAFF GUIDE YOU.
AND TO THE EXTENT YOU WANT US TO ANSWER ANYTHING AFTER THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, WE CERTAINLY CAN.
UM, RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND THE GO PLAN, UM, WE JUST HEARD FROM A RESIDENT THAT IT IS GOING TO BE A COMPLETE FAILURE.
WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THIS THROUGH PROFESSIONALS FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO LISTEN TO OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT OR OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, BUT PLEASE USE YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT HEAVILY.
UM, HE'S AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT THAT HAS BEEN HIRED FOR THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ADVICE.
UM, WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS HAS NOT ONLY BEEN REVIEWED EXTENSIVELY BY YOURSELVES, BY OUR CONSULTANTS, IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND IT HAS THOROUGHLY BEEN VETTED.
UM, SO, AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT THAT PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS HAVE COMMENTED ON THIS AND AGREED ON THESE PLANS AND THESE TRAFFIC MITIGATION.
UH, ONE RELATED TO TREE REMOVAL, THAT WAS THE FIRST COMMENT WE HEARD WHEN WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED TWO YEARS AGO, WE DID SUBMIT A TREE REMOVAL, UH, PERMIT APPLICATION.
SO I BELIEVE THAT IS IN THE RECORD.
SO THIS COMMENT WAS ALSO ADDRESSED SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
UM, AND THIS WAS A COMMENT WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY.
UH, HOWEVER, THE ANTI-IDLING LAWS ONLY APPLY WHEN A CAR OR VEHICLE IS SITTING THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES AND THE ENGINE IS ENGAGED CONSTANTLY.
UM, WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH, THE CARS WILL BE MOVING THROUGH THE ANTI-IDLING LAW, BY ITS NATURE, DOES NOT APPLY.
UH, FURTHERMORE, WE UNDERSTAND THE ANTI-IDLING LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES BECAUSE AGAIN, CARS ARE CONSTANTLY MOVING THROUGH.
UM, WE ALSO HIGHLIGHT THAT IN THAT SUBMISSION FROM SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, MOST CARS LIKE MY CAR, EVEN OLDER CARS NOW, ONCE YOU'RE STOPPED, THE ENGINE SHUTS OFF.
UM, THAT THOSE ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE, UH, REQUIRED POPULAR, WHATEVER THE WORD MAY BE.
UM, FLOODING, WE HAD THAT SAME EXACT COMMENT WITH THOSE SAME EXACT PICTURES AT THE ZBA PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, PERIOD.
THIS PLANNING BOARD'S LAST PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT FLOODING IS EXISTING.
NOW, UH, TO THE EXTENT THOSE PICTURES CAN BE VERIFIED, WE ARE DECREASING IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ON THIS SITE.
IN ADDITION TO STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ON
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THIS PROJECT WILL ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO MORE RUNOFF THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THAT SITE.NOW, THAT'S A NEW YORK STATE REGULATION.
THAT'S A STORM WATER REGULATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION.
AND TIM, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, CAN ADD TO THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
UH, LET'S SEE, UH, AIR QUALITY NOISE AND POLLUTION AND DEBRIS AND GARBAGE.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE GOT AT OUR FIRST PLANNING BOARD HEARING WAS FROM THE OWNER OF 10 COUNTY CENTER.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE, UH, MIXED USE OFFICE COMMERCIAL.
WE ACTUALLY MET ON SITE WITH HIM, UH, TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT.
ONE OF HIS CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURRENT STATUS OF THIS VACANT SITE IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS ON IT BECAUSE NO ONE'S CLEANING IT UP.
THAT DEBRIS IS GETTING BLOWN INTO THE, UH, BRONX RIVER.
UH, SO WHAT AN BRINGING AN ACTIVE USE TO THIS SITE WILL DO, WILL BE ENSURE THAT IT IS CONSTANTLY CLEAN.
CHICK-FIL-A TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN ITS PROPERTIES AND ITS FACILITIES, WHICH YOU LIKELY CAN SEE FROM THE CURRENT GREENBURG FACILITY OR THE YONKERS FACILITY.
ALL GARBAGE WILL BE SWEPT AND CLEANED DAILY.
UH, THERE IS A COMPLETELY ENCLOSED REFUSE LOCATION, WHICH WILL DETER ANY ANIMALS FROM GETTING IN THERE.
AND CERTAINLY THE SITE WITH AN ACTIVE USE ON IT WILL BE MUCH MORE CLEAN THAN CURRENTLY EXISTS, UH, RELATED TO AIR POLLUTION AND, UH, SMELLS.
THERE IS NO STATE REGULATED AIR EMISSION SOURCE HERE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A POWER PLANT, WE'RE SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT A RESTAURANT.
UH, THERE WAS A CONCERN FROM THAT OWNER OF 10 COUNTY CENTER ROAD THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH HIM AT LENGTH WAS SOMETIMES YOU CAN SMELL BURGER KING.
UM, CHICK-FIL-A IS VERY DIFFERENT.
CHICK-FIL-A, UH, COOKS ALL THEIR FOOD IN PRESSURE COOKERS AND HAS PROPER VENTILATION SYSTEMS. SO THERE WILL BE NO ODORS EMANATING FROM THE BUILDING.
LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE HERE? CLOSEST RESIDENCE RELATED TO THE LEGALITY, UM, OF THE AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
I CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL GET ADVICE FROM YOUR COUNSEL.
UH, WE ORIGINALLY AMENDED THE DEC NEGATIVE DECLARATION BECAUSE WE HAD NEW INFORMATION.
THAT NEW INFORMATION WAS THAT THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS WAS ONLY GOING TO ALLOW EMPLOYEE TEAM MEMBER PARKING ON THAT WHITE PLAINS LOT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD DIDN'T KNOW WHEN IT FIRST ADOPTED ITS NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
BECAUSE OF THAT NEW INFORMATION, THE SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION WAS AMENDED.
NOW, THE THOUGHT THAT THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION IN SOME MANNER DOESN'T ADDRESS THE OUTSIDE SEATING.
VARIANCE IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE FOR A FEW REASONS.
ONE IS THAT'S NOT NEW INFORMATION.
OUTDOOR SEATING WAS CONTINUOUSLY ON OUR SITE PLANS.
IT WAS IN OUR ZBA APPLICATION AND IT WAS IN SUBMISSIONS TO THIS PLANNING BOARD.
SECONDLY, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT NEW INFORMATION, OUTDOOR SEATING BY ITS VERY NATURE IS NOT GONNA RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
UH, AND FOR THOSE REASONS, THE AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION CAN STAND ALL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE OUTDOOR SEATING IS IN THE RECORD.
IT'S PART OF THIS BOARD'S ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD.
AND YOU ARE COVERED IN ANY SORT OF AN EVENT OR CHALLENGE OF THIS APPROVAL OR DETERMINATION OF THE BOARD.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOUR COUNSEL TO GUIDE YOU FURTHER.
TWO OTHER, UH, COMMENTS THAT I HAVE.
NOTES ON ONE RELATED TO, UM, USE OF OUTDOOR SPEAKERS OR NOISE ON THE SITE.
AND THE OTHER WAS RELATED TO COUNTY CENTER EVENTS AND TRAFFIC INTO, UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO RELATED TO NOISE, ACTUALLY, I JUST ADDRESSED THIS QUESTION OUT NEAR ROCHESTER.
OH, I'M SORRY, CHARLIE, I'M SORRY.
JUST TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD, AT 8:41 PM BOARD MEMBER DYLAN PINE ARRIVED.
THIS IS A, A QUESTION WE GET A LOT AT CHICK-FIL-A PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS.
SO AS WE EXPLAINED EARLIER, THE DUAL LANE DRIVE THROUGH IS NOT AN ORDER BOARD.
THERE'S NO SPEAKER THAT IS SAYING, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE, WHAT'S YOUR ORDER THAT ARE OFTENTIMES QUITE LOUD.
INSTEAD, THERE ARE TEAM MEMBERS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE DRIVE THROUGH WITH TABLETS WHO ARE AT YOUR WINDOW WHO ARE JUST TALKING TO YOU.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? DO YOU NEED ANY ASSISTANCE FOR THAT REASON? THERE'S NO KIND OF ORDER BOARD MEGAPHONE, UM, THAT YOU MIGHT HEAR OFF THE PREMISES.
UM, SO WE HAD THE NOISE AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER COMMENT, AARON? I'M SORRY.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE, THERE IS A, A SECONDARY SYSTEM, UM, THERE AT THE MENU BOARD.
SO THERE IS A, A SPEAKER CAN, CAN JUST SPEAK TO THE MIC.
UM, THERE IS A SPEAKER THERE SECONDARY AT THE MENU BOARD.
UM, SO OFTENTIMES IT IS TEAM MEMBERS, BUT IN INCLEMENT
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WEATHER OR SOMETHING WHERE IT'S UNSAFE FOR TEAM MEMBERS TO BE OUT THERE, THERE IS YOUR TYPICAL, UH, SPEAKER POST BELOW THE MENU BOARD.THOSE HAVE AN ADAPTIVE, UM, NOISE CONTROL TO 'EM.
SO THEY ADAPT IN THE LOUDNESS BASED ON YOUR AMBIENT NOISE AND THE AMBIENT NOISE.
AND THE LOCATION OF THE SPEAKER POST IS, IS GONNA BE, UM, GOVERNED BY THE TRAFFIC ON, UH, TERRYTOWN ROAD, THE TRAFFIC ON TERRYTOWN ROAD.
THAT NOISE IS GONNA SUPERSEDE ANYTHING THAT THOSE ORDER POINT, UM, SPEAKERS, UH, GENERATE.
AND I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IN THE RECORD FOR THE DETAILS ON THOSE SPEAKER BOXES.
BUT THEY'RE ALSO SPECIFICALLY LOCATED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF TERRYTOWN ROAD AND NOT TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE SITE TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND THEN THE, WAS IT THE RELATED TO THE PARKING ON RELATED FOR COUNTY CENTER ROAD AND THE EVENTS? YEAH.
AND THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT SPACES ALONG COUNTY CENTER ROAD AS WELL.
I BELIEVE YOU WERE PROPOSING TO STRIPE THOSE OUT? YEAH, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO PHIL.
THERE WAS ALSO THE ONE ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ADDING MORE TRAFFIC AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THERE NOW THING.
UH, PHILIP GREELEY AGAIN, SO RELATIVE TO THE, UH, PARKING ALONG COUNTY CENTER ROAD, WE ARE, UH, GOING TO STRIKE THE SPACES SO THAT IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAN IT IS TODAY.
UH, DURING THE COUNTY CENTER EVENTS, PEOPLE DO PARK THERE.
OUR SITE IS DESIGNED THAT WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE OFFSITE PARKING.
WE ARE DESIGNED TO HANDLE OUR QUEUES AND OUR PARKING DEMAND ON SITE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, UH, CONDITIONS IN THE AREA.
UH, AS MR. BACH INDICATED, THE SYSTEM THAT WAS THERE, UH, WAS WORKING ON A FIXED TIME SIGNAL, UH, SIGNAL.
SO YOU WERE ONLY GIVEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THAT WAS IT CYCLE AFTER CYCLE.
WHETHER THERE WAS A DEMAND OF 20 CARS OR THREE CARS, YOU GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CORRECTING WITH THE NEW INSTALLATION, WHICH WILL BE AN ADAPTIVE SYSTEM.
AND THE DETECTION IS DONE BY VIDEO CAMERAS, UM, WHICH IS MORE EFFICIENT.
UH, THE OLD LOOP DETECTOR SYSTEMS WHERE LOOPS WERE CUT INTO THE PAVEMENT WERE FOR EACH LANE.
AND IF THERE WAS ANY WORK THAT WAS DONE, LET'S SAY ON A WATER LINE OR A SEWER LINE, THEY WOULD GET DAMAGED.
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE REASON WHY THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THAT DELAY COMING OUT ONTO TARRYTOWN ROAD.
WE WILL BE UPGRADING ALL OF THAT.
WHO, WHO WINS THOUGH, RIGHT? LIKE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERSECTION.
SO WHO, WHO WINS WHEN THEY'RE ALL FULL? SORRY, I JUST NEED TO KNOW.
NOW THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR IS PART OF A SYSTEM ALONG KERRYTOWN ROAD, SO THERE'S A LIMIT TO WHAT YOU CAN GET, BUT THAT LIMIT WOULD INCREASE.
OR IT HADN'T BEEN ADJUSTING BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A FIXED AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO THE INCREASE, WE HAVE FIGURED ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO EIGHT SECOND INCREASES DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF THE DAY.
UH, AND THAT PLUS THE ADDED LANE, THE THIRD LANE, UH, APPROACHING THAT INTERSECTION WILL INCREASE THE CAPACITY.
LET'S SAY THE SYSTEM IS INSTALLED AND IT'S WORKING.
YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THE COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SAY EVEN NOW THEY HAVE TROUBLE GETTING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE CORRECT.
I GUESS THE LIGHT'S TOO SHORT.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY STILL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER YOUR SYSTEM IS IN PLACE? I MEAN, DO THEY HAVE RECOURSE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY, CONTACT SOMEBODY, GET THE LIGHT ADJUSTED TO MAKE IT MORE SO, SO PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT, OR WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS A MONITORING.
SO AFTER THE FACILITY OPENS, WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE MONITORING TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING IS FUNCTIONING.
NOT GRAND OPENING, BUT IN TERMS OF THE DRIVEWAY OPERATIONS, IN TERMS OF THE TIMING.
SO WE, AS PART OF THAT MONITORING, IF WE FELT THAT THERE WAS A NEED TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF GREEN TIME BEYOND WHAT WE'VE SHOWN ALREADY, WE WOULD PETITION THE STATE TO MAKE THAT MODIFICATION, UH, OVER TIME.
SO THAT MONITORING PERIOD IS FOR A, I THINK FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, OR I FORGET JOHN, JOHN MAY REMEMBER THE EXACT TIMEFRAME, BUT, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS FOR A SIX MONTH PERIOD, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE MONITORING.
AND, AND WILL YOU SEND A REPORT OF YOUR MONITOR CORRECT.
TO, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? CORRECT.
THAT'S PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT, YES.
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LIKE WHAT HOURS A DAY WHEN YOU MONITOR IN DURING THE, IT WOULD BE DURING THE PEAK HOURS OF OUR OPERATIONS, BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY, SO IT'LL BE PRETTY MUCH THE AFTERNOON FROM LIKE 11 ON TO THE EVENING PEAK.WHAT TIME IS THAT? I'M SORRY? WHAT TIME IS THAT YOUR EVENING? THE, THE EVENING PEAK UP TO ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK.
THE, THE PEAK IN THE A IN, IN THE LUNCH PERIOD IS BETWEEN LIKE 11 AND TWO IS, IT VARIES DAY TO DAY, BUT THAT'S THE, THE PEAK THAT WE'VE OBSERVED AT OTHER FACILITIES.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER EVENING PEAK, WHICH REALLY IS GOVERNED BY THE COMMUTER TRAFFIC, NOT NECESSARILY OUR, OUR PEAK TRAFFIC.
SO THE MONITORING WOULD BE FOR SIX MONTHS, FROM 11 UNTIL WHAT? EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY? OR IT, IT WOULD BE DURING THE PEAK, DURING THE PEAK DAYS.
AND THOSE WOULD BE COORDINATED WITH, WITH THE TOWN, I THINK THINK, I THINK IN THE TRAFFIC.
UH, I'M, I'M JUST MIS I DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MONITORING PROCESS WAS.
I THOUGHT WE WERE MONITORING FOR SIX MONTHS AND MAYBE ALL OF THAT DATA WAS BEING COLLECTED.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW SYSTEMS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN.
SO THE ADAPTIVE SYSTEM ACTUALLY PERMITS, UH, THE DOT TO KNOW WHAT THE VOLUMES ARE THROUGHOUT THE DAY, EVERY DAY AT THAT INTERSECTION.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THE VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM.
CANNING, ARE YOU THERE? HE'S THERE.
UM, I, I ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE MONITORING TO SELECT THE TIMES AND THE DAYS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF? ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, UH, DONE EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS.
UM, THE TOWN STAFF REACHES OUT AND ASKS ME TO, UH, ENGAGE WITH THE APPLICANT, REVIEW THEIR MATERIALS, MAKE SUGGESTIONS.
UM, I, I, I HAD A COUPLE OF, I GUESS, ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS TO WHAT, UH, DR.
I DO BELIEVE, AND I'M GONNA ASK AARON TO SEE IF HE CAN FIND IT IN THE RECORD, THAT AS PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE TRAFFIC, IN ADDITION TO THE MONITORING, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS EVEN BEFORE, UM, THE FACILITY OPENS, AS SOON AS THEY PUT IN THE NEW TURN LANE AND THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL, THEY WILL REQUEST AT LEAST A COUPLE OF EXTRA SECONDS FOR THE OLD KENSICO ROAD APPROACH TO, UH, TO TARRYTOWN ROAD SO THAT YOU'LL GET ONE OR MAYBE TWO ADDITIONAL VEHICLES OUT.
THAT WOULD BE AN INITIAL REQUEST TO THE STATE AND THE CITY.
AND THEN WHEN THE MONITORING GOES ON AND YOU SEE WHAT REAL LIFE IS LIKE, IF YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR TWO SECONDS FROM THE STATE INITIALLY, YOU COULD ASK THEM AGAIN AND YOU WOULD HAVE HARD DATA TO SUPPORT IT.
SO THAT WAS JUST ONE POINT ON ON THAT I WANT TO MAKE.
UH, SECONDLY, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE ABILITY TO GET OUT OF THE ANGLE SPACES.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED PREVIOUSLY AND WE DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, AND I BELIEVE THE LANE WIDTH BEHIND THE ANGLE SPACES NOW IS 13 FEET.
WE DID, UH, VEHICLE TURNING ANALYSES, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEM.
I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL BE EASY, UM, STAFF MEMBERS WILL BE INSTRUCTED THAT IF THEY SEE SOMEBODY WHO'S HAVING DIFFICULTIES, THEY COULD STEP IN AND HELP THEM TO, TO GET OUT.
UH, WITH REGARD TO PARKING AND PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE, THAT'S THE NESTO SIDE.
ALL KENSICO ROADSIDE, THE PARKING LOT, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE MADE IS THAT FROM THE START, THE APPLICANT BE PREPARED WITH THE GO PLAN AND NOT PERMIT PARKING ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING IN THE MORNING.
UM, BECAUSE THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S EXPECTED THAT YOU'LL NEED THE DRIVE THROUGH SPACES AND IF YOU HAVE CARS PARKED THERE, YOU CAN'T FREE THEM UP.
BUT IF YOU DON'T NEED THE PARKING, IF YOU DON'T NEED THE DRIVE THROUGH SPACE, THEN YOU NEED MORE PARKING.
SO YOU JUST TAKE UP THE CONES AND WALK IN AND PEOPLE CAN PARK THE DATA FROM, UH, FROM YONKERS, BY THE WAY, DOES INDICATE THAT THERE WON'T BE A PARKING ISSUE.
SO WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ONE, I MEAN, LIFE IS FULL OF SURPRISES, BUT ALL OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT SAYS THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PARKING ISSUE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UM, THOSE COUPLE OF POINTS.
MR. SPARKS, THANK YOU MR. CANNING.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED FOR THE RECORD TO INDICATE, UM, SOMETHING MICHELLE SAID WHEN SHE SAID, WHO WINS IS ALLUDING TO MY PREVIOUS THOUGHT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE VIDEO CAM TRAFFIC, THINKING ABOUT SCHOOL TIMES AND OTHER HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD WIN, RIGHT.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC DURING THE PEAK TIME AT CHICK-FIL-A SO I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF SIX MONTHS IS A REASONABLE TIME TO, AT THAT POINT LOOK AT THAT DATA BECAUSE IT, WE
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COULD HAVE SOME, UM, UNEXPECTED OR NOT ANTICIPATED IMPACTS OF THIS NEW LIGHTING AS IT RELATES TO THE TRAFFIC AT CHICK-FIL-A BUT IF, IF THE EXPERT SAYS SIX MONTHS IS REASONABLE, THEN THEN IT IS AARON, IF I CAN JUST STEP IN, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE RESOLUTION SAID THAT IT WAS SIX MONTHS, BUT THAT IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED IT SOONER, IT WOULD BE DONE SOONER.
I'M SORRY, WERE YOU ASKING ALSO FOR SOONER OR FOR LONGER THROUGH SEASONS FOR DIFFERENT, HONESTLY, BECAUSE THE ANSWER I'M GETTING IS THE CHICK-FIL-A ANSWER, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE EXPERIENCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE OTHER ACTIVITIES.
DO, DO, WHEN YOU SAY OWNS IT, MEANING THEY GET THE PRIORITY BECAUSE I JUST WANT, I WANT THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
IF I HEARD THIS CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING ACTIVE MONITORING WILL BE DURING PEAK TIMES, BUT DURING CHICK-FIL-A'S PEAK TIMES, WELL, IT, IT, WHICH COULD BE IMPACTED BY OTHER ACTIVITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YEAH, IT, IT WOULD ACTUALLY COVER BOTH.
I MEAN, THE, THE MIDDAY IS, IS THE PEAK TIME FOR CHICK-FIL-A MM-HMM
BUT BECAUSE THE PEAK OF THE ROADWAY IN THE EVENING, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE BUSY AT THAT TIME ALSO, BUT IT'S NOT OUR HIGHEST TIME.
BUT IT JUST HAPPENS TO, IT WOULD COVER BOTH CONDITIONS.
THE COMMUTER PEAK AND OUR PEAK AND SCHOOL IN THE EVENING.
IT'S THE SCHOOL PEAK IN THE MORNING MAYBE? YES.
AND AFTERNOON, DEPENDING ON HOW POPULAR THE BREAKFAST THING IS.
NOT ACCORDING TO MY IS THAT, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I'M SORRY, I'M NOT IN THE ROOM WITH YOU.
UM, PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE MONITORING, BASICALLY THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO COME BACK TO THE TOWN AND SAY, OKAY, OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO MONITOR.
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? LET, WE WANT TO CONFIRM THAT.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS, UM, THAT THE, THE PLAN AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS WILL NOT BE AS BAD AS YOU FEAR.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS AS, AS THE OPENING PLAYS OUT TO REPORT TO STAFF WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE SO THAT WE CAN MONITOR THOSE AS WELL.
SO THE APPLICANT JUST DOESN'T DECIDE, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA MONITOR WHATEVER WE WANT TO MONITOR.
IT IS THE TOWN THAT DICTATES WHAT'S MONITORED.
WERE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE APPLICANT WISHES TO ADD? I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, BUT YES.
NO, I THINK, UH, WE ARE ALL SET.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE PLANNING BOARD THAT WE APPRECIATE ALL, ALL THESE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE KIND OF IN FRONT OF A COMPLETELY NEW BOARD HERE, DID I, EXCEPT FOR MR. GOLDEN, UM, AND THE CHAIRMAN.
UH, SO THERE IS A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HERE THAT DOES STATE THAT THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
UM, SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE LOST.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THE BOARD HAS.
SO THEY DID BRING UP THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY IDLING LAW AND AS YOU KNOW, I WAS PREVIOUSLY RECUSING MYSELF FROM, UH, PREVIOUSLY WORKING WITH THE FIRM THAT HAD WORKED WITH CHICK-FIL-A ON THIS PROJECT, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
UM, SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, IF YOU HAD ADDRESSED THAT PREVIOUSLY, THE ANTI IDLING LAW FOR THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY THAT CAME UP.
DID HE TOUCHED ON IT? OH, YOU DID.
YEAH, AND IT'S ALSO IN OUR SEPTEMBER SUBMISSION OF LAST YEAR, SO IT'S IN WRITING AS WELL.
ONE, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET ON THE RECORD CONFIRMATION THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED AND REVIEWED THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PLANNING BOARD RESOLUTION AND ITS VARIOUS CONDITIONS AND ARE AGREEABLE TO COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
AND ALTHOUGH IT WAS JUST, UH, STAMPED TODAY, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ZONING BOARD OF OF APPEALS CERTIFICATE OF DECISION HAS VARIOUS CONDITIONS AND THE PROJECT AGREEABLE THE APPLICANT'S AGREEABLE TO COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
YEAH, THERE WAS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT I DID WANNA ASK, AND IT WAS, UM, WHETHER THERE COULD BE A EASEMENT OR A COVENANT OVER THE WHITE PLAINS LOT FOR THE USE OF THOSE PARKING SPACES, UH, FOR TEAM MEMBERS.
WHAT I WILL SAY IS, AND THIS BOARD HAS IT, THERE IS AN EXISTING LEASE FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY CHICK-FIL-A IS NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER, IS NOT GOING TO BE THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THAT LEASE COVERS THE GREENBURG PORTION AND THE WHITE PLAINS PORTION.
AND THAT LEASE IS A RECORDED DOCUMENT IN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND IT PROVIDES CHICK-FIL-A AND ONLY CH CHICK-FIL-A WRITES OVER, UH, THE USE OF BOTH PROPERTIES.
SO THERE WON'T BE ANYONE ELSE COMING INTO PARK AND TAKING UP PARKING SPACES.
SO I JUST, I I WAS THINKING THAT'S WHAT THAT CONDITION WAS AIMED AT.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
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UM, REAL QUICK, JUST A STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS RECEIVED BOTH BY A CORRESPONDENCE AND THEN ALSO HEARD THIS EVENING, I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UM, OUR OFFICE IS IN RECEIPT OF CORRESPONDENCE PROVIDED BY THE COUNCIL OF GREENBURG CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS DATED NOVEMBER 11TH, 2024, WHICH WAS FORWARDED ALONG TO THE PLANNING BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH THE ADDITIONAL AREA VARIANCE, WHICH WAS NOT LISTED IN THE PLANNING BOARD'S.AMENDED SEEKER DETERMINATION DATED OCTOBER 16TH, 2024, RELATED TO OUTDOOR SEATING ASSOCIATED WITH A QUICK SERVICE FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.
THE APPLICANT'S PLANS HAVE SHOWN PROPOSED OUTDOOR SEATING SINCE THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AS PART OF A PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCE HELD ON MAY 18TH, 2022.
IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT RELATED TO A STATEMENT PROVIDED IN A LETTER TRANSMITTED BY THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PLANNING BOARD SECRETARY EILEEN MCLEAN DATED JULY 18TH, 2024, RELATED TO A REQUEST WITH, UH, RELATED TO A REQUEST THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE CHICK-FIL-A APPLICATION IN GREENBURG, ANY APPROVAL NOT INCLUDE THE COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT IN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS FOR MEETING PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
PLEASE NOTE, THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PLANNING BOARD RESOLUTION FOR SPECIAL PERMIT AND SITE PLAN APPROVALS FOR THE NEW COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT ADOPTED OCTOBER 15TH, 2024, ONLY PROHIBITS THE USE OF THE COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT FOR QUEUING OF CUSTOMER VEHICLES.
OUR OFFICE IS ALSO IN RECEIPT OF CORRESPONDENCE BY THE COUNCIL OF GREENBURG CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024, WHICH WAS SENT OR, OR DIRECTED TO DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR ELIZABETH GARRITY.
THAT DOCUMENT WAS ALSO FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING BOARD IN AN EMAIL DATED NOVEMBER 14TH, 2024.
MS. GARRITY RESPONDED TO THE CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED THANKING THE CGCA OR COUNCIL OF GREENBERG CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS FOR POINTING OUT THE TOPO TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS IN CODE SECTIONS ON THE DENIAL LETTER ISSUED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WERE HAVE SINCE BEEN CORRECTED.
FURTHER, THE RESPONSE FROM MS. GARRITY STATED, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT TEMPORARY CONDITIONS AS SHOWN ON A GRAND OPENING PLAN, WHICH TEMPORARILY REDUCES AISLE WIDTH BY USING MOVABLE TRAFFIC CONES AND TEMPORARILY DIRECTS VEHICLES TO QUEUE IN PARKING SPACES BY A COMBINATION OF CHICK-FIL-A STAFF AND WITH GREENBURG POLICE ON SITE, ARE NOT UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH REGARD TO LOT SIZE AND SETBACKS.
THESE COMMENTS WERE PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED IN A MAY 28TH, 2024 MEMORANDUM FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
I JUST WANTED TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE APPLICANT.
UM, REGARDING THE CGCA COMMENTS AND THE, UM, RESIDENT MARIA GOMEZ'S COMMENTS TONIGHT ABOUT THE AMENDED NECK DECK AND THE, UH, ADDITIONAL VARIANCE FOR OUTDOOR SEATING, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD MAY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ZONING BOARD ON ANY VARIANCES AS IT HAS DONE HISTORICALLY AT THE REQUEST OF THE ZONING BOARD, BUT IS ONLY REQUIRED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS.
THAT'S PURSUANT TO TOWN LAW 2 77, SECTION SIX.
UH, SO THE VARIANCE HERE, WHICH THE PLANNING BOARD DID NOT NECESSARILY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ONTO THE ZONING BOARD, WAS TO PERMIT OUTDOOR SEATING AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
ZONING BOARD DID NOT REQUEST THE PLANNING BOARD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE OUTDOOR SEATING VARIANCE BEFORE VOTING ON ALL VARIANCES AT ITS LAST MEETING, NOR DID IT REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING BOARD CONSIDER FURTHER AMENDING THE AMENDED NE NEGATIVE DECLARATION PRIOR TO ISSUING A DECISION ON THE VARIANCES.
OUTDOOR SEATING HAS BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLANS PRIOR TO THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION.
THE PLANS, INCLUDING THE OUTDOOR SEATING WERE REVIEWED SUBSTANTIALLY BY PLANNING BOARD AND STAFF AT SEVERAL MEETINGS.
THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THE PLANS WITH OUTDOOR SEATING AT THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023.
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTED ON THE OUTDOOR SEATING AND DISCUSSED POTENTIAL IMPACTS, INCLUDING THE DESIRE OF PATRONS TO SIT OUTSIDE AND NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RELATED TO THE OUTDOOR SEATING WERE MADE OR RECEIVED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION OR AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
UM, THE PLANS WERE REVIEWED IN THEIR ENTIRETY WHEN CONSIDERING THE IMPACTS AND DRAFTING THE NEXT DECK.
AND CHANGES TO PLANS OFTEN OCCUR DURING THE PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS AFTER NEC AND AMENDED NEC ARE ISSUED.
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THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC COMMENTARY, SOMETIMES RECEIVED AT A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, RESULTING IN ADDITIONAL VARIANCES BEING IDENTIFIED AS REQUIRED BY SECRET.THE PUBLIC HEARING HELD AFTER SECRET DETERMINATIONS MADE CHANGES THROUGH THE PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS ARE GENERALLY ADDRESSED BY INCORPORATING MITIGATION MEASURES PURSUANT TO DEVELOPMENT OF PLANS PURSUANT TO THE SECRET REGULATION SECTION SIX 17.7 E.
UM, IF THERE IS A CHANGE AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED BY COUNCIL FOR SEQUELA, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD REEVALUATE IT, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD AN AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, UM, FOR THE, UM, CHANGES RESULTING FROM WHITE PLAIN'S DECISION.
AND IF THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT FOUND DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES OR ADDITIONAL CHANGES, THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, WOULD AMEND OR COULD ALTERNATIVELY RESCIND ITS ORIGINAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, THE OUTDOOR SEATING HAS BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLAN SINCE THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION PLANNING BOARD AND STAFF REVIEW.
THE OUTDOOR SEATING PROPOSED PRIOR TO ISSUING THE NECK DECK AND AMENDED NECK DECK AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLANS.
AND SINCE THE OUTDOOR SEATING HAS BEEN SHOWN SINCE THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION, FINDING THAT THERE'S NO NEED TO REEVALUATE THE, UH, SECRET IMPACTS.
UM, IF THE BOARD WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AGAIN BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I CANNOT REITERATE ENOUGH THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE REMAINED THE SAME FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF.
UM, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IN, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC CLEARING RECORD OPEN STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND IN THIS CASE.
TYPICALLY, WE WOULD LEAVE A RECORD OPEN FOR ONE WEEK, BUT BEING THAT WE HAVE FOUR WEEKS BETWEEN MEETINGS, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER LEAVING THE RECORD OPEN THROUGH DECEMBER 18TH, WHICH IS A TWO WEEK PERIOD.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND FROM TOM HAY.
WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL DECEMBER 18TH, 2024.
AND, UH, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I NOW KNOW VERY WELL HOW THE ZBA OPERATES WHEN THEY COME CLOSE TO A DETERMINATION TIME.
BUT DOES THIS BOARD TAKE A STRAW VOTE? DO WOULD A RESOLUTION BE PREPARED FOR THE JANUARY MEETING IN THE EVENT THE BOARD WANTED TO TAKE ACTION? NO.
TYPICALLY, UM, THERE WOULD NO, SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A STRAW VOTE.
UM, IN CONNECTION WITH PLANNING BOARD DECISIONS STAFF IS BASICALLY DIRECTED BY THE BOARD TO PREPARE A DRAFT DECISION FOR ITS NEXT UPCOMING MEETING.
SO STAFF WILL DO THAT IN CONNECTION WITH CLOSURE OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD IS CLOSED, WHICH IS SET FOR DECEMBER 18TH, AND THEN, UM, THE WEEK OF THE MEETING OR THE WEEK PRIOR, YOU'RE FREE TO REACH OUT TO US TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPTION TO, OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO OBTAIN A COPY OF THE DRAFT FOR YOUR REVIEW PRIOR.
HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION OF THE MEETING SESSION.
AND THEN WE ARE GONNA MOVE BACK DOWN.